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Seraph Laphis, Glory Be Edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone. The first expansion pack, "Darkness Evolved", launched on September 30th.

Reminder to participate in this poll so we can get a gauge of our community skill: http://www.strawpoll.me/11431912/r

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (in development)

To play on PC, you currently have to use an Android emulator such as Leapdroid (recommended), Memu, Nox or Bluestacks.
If the emulator gets stuck on Urias' stage in story mode, you might need to enable Virtualization in your bios.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Guide/FAQ:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing

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>Creator of Alchemy
>Done so alone and in secret
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>want to test heal haven in unranked
>literally 4 fucking solitaire witches in a row
Just give me some aggro opponent, jesus christ
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please join and concede 94799
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Just started this game. Wanna get some opinion.

What is your most hated class? Why?
What is your most played class? Is it fun to play it?
Who is the best character? Post pic.
What card do you think is strong but fair?
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Forest seems quite strong for arena, but rune is so darn inconsistent. One game I get a bunch of earth rite cards but no sigil, and another one I draw a bunch of sigils but nothing to use them on.
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>>158137094
>Creating artificial life would've remained a hobby
>If it wasn't for this guy stumbling upon her documents and deciding to learn from her
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>>158137208
Unranked used to be fucking full of Healcunts preying on new players, it was only a matter of time until the Dshafts show up harvesting those.
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>>158137315
delete this
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>>158137243
>Most hated class
Havencraft. Because it's 90% of my ladder matches and Storm Haven is one of the least fun decks to play against.
>Most played
Forestcraft. I like it, you actually have to think when you play the class and because decks like PtP or the hybrid are very flexible games don't play out the same way
>Best character
See pic
>What card do you think is strong but fair?
Seraph. It's a cool alternate win condition but you can actually interact with it with a neutral card of all things unlike other shit like storm or dshift
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>This is a sergeant in demon army
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>>158137245
A lot of the time forest is just a worse sword. I think it's pickable but on average, always a worse pick than sword.
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>>158137276
That horn looks really dangerous.
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>>158137380
I hate how SV changed the lore on a lot of the cards. One of RoB's strengths was how a lot of the cards relate to each other in some way and build a believable universe despite having no actual story.
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Is left correct for first pick or is oliva that broken in arena?
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>>158137667
That's english SV. It was rewritten to be standalone.
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>>158137245
The real secret to rune in arena is that you can just draft a bunch of removal and grind people out. I play rune a lot in arena and consistently get at least 4-0 doing this.
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can anyone help with a private match concede room is 47736
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>>158137243

>What is your most hated class? Why?
Haven, is true strong right now and cancer accord to some crybabys
>What is your most played class? Is it fun to play it? Blood and sword
Blood: is a suicide class really weak right now because of shit legends and lack of combos
Sword: is fun and strong
>Who is the best character? Post pic.
I can't choose betwen Erika and Blood.
Here the best loli butt and a true swordwoman tight
>What card do you think is strong but fair?
Leonidas because of the high cost and reward

>>158137315
sauce
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>>158137797

Soul dealer is so good if you got it out turn 4 but blood Mary is pretty bad.
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>>158137728
Does the JPN lore remain the same?
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>arena bloodcraft
>enemy 6 HP
>vengance active
>1 evolution point
>dark general on my hand
>not taunts up
>don't go for lethal
>post this greentext in the wrong fucking thread
Fuck my life, I should sleep more.
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>Opponent plays Hell's Unleasher
>Get it BLACKened
>He quits
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>>158137696
So Polyphonic Roar isn't that strong a card in arena, right? It's infinite value but it only starts to kick in on turn 10 and it requires you to pass your turn 9 entirely.

Fafnir is very, very good in arena. He's a huge finisher that also damages/clears a board. His 2 damage is not always relevant on a turn 9/10 board state but sometimes it is.

I don't think Deathmist is outright bad in arena. It's not a general purpose card and you'd be despairing if you had only Deathmists for your 4s but it's good against Sword/Shadow's early game minions.

Olivia is a 6/6 on turn 9 if you use an evolve which is faster than Roar but slower than Fafnir. Olivia also gives you evo mileage and can allow you to evolve more aggressively across the entire game. I would personally pick right here because I believe those two cards - together - are more likely to be useful in more games.

As first pick you don't really know if you have ramp or not yet which could change the pick here.
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我が怨嗟の剣、お受けください。
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>>158137528

I lost to Seraph with opponent haven at 1 hp. Wasn't even mad. Pretty impressive stuff.
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>>158137931
I heard so.
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>>158137887
>Soul Dealer is good
>Bloody Mary is pretty bad
Bloody Mary is Blood's best legendary by far.
>Vanilla stats for the body so you can just drop her as a threat if you've got nothing else going on
>Insanely powerful effect that lets you deal insane late game burst and lets you play cards like blood wolf, dire bond, and razor claw in the late game without killing yourself.
Meanwhile Soul Dealer is trash, even on turn 4. If his stats were switched he'd actually be pretty decent. He has some niche uses, like getting into vengeance against control/combo that's specifically not hitting you, but he can actively make you lose the game.
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>>158138090
I nakadashi you too, young lady
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So in Shadowverse it is just a bunch of people with internal problems fighting each other while turning more and more psychotic?
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gg sandwich, I gotta do my dailies

What the hell was in your hand that you didn't play any of them
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Thanks for the games Red
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If SV is ever adapted, what cards do you want to see in it as characters/enemies?
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>>158137971
What could have been.
Then again I should have lost my last game.
>enemy has leonidas resolve up
>plays minions with a lethal amount of damage
>instead of going face he removes my minions
>play olivia and now we both have empty boards
>puts out a minion but forgets to chage
>end up winning
Not sore if he was gloating and it backfired or just genuinely retarded.
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>>158137243
>Most Hated:
I don't really hate any deck. The only one I don't like playing against right now is Rune because I play slow decks I guess, but it doesn't bother me much.
>Most played
Sword, it's fun to fill the board up with wards against aggression and removing big things with Tsubaki feels satisfying.
>Who is the best character?
Erika
>What card do you think is strong but fair?
Charon. She looks like just a pile of stats, which she is, but It's hard to get 6 shadows by t5 but when you can, she feels really strong on curve, and it affects your deckbuilding for turns 1-4. It's a small thing, but I really liked putting her in my shadow deck.
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>>158138336
Yes, i read the sword adventure and see how they are similar.

just skiping all the other stories
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>>158138247

Blood Mary is like a 4/5 ward. Soul dealer makes you activate vengeance very early, activating lots of cards, and he has ward.
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>>158138352
I had a bunch of earth rune cards (2 Remi, ancient alchemist, and a shadow witch), but could not get any sigils.
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>>158138436
Nevermind, I'M GENUINELY retarded.
Rush and Storm.
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>>158138436
Unless they had storm in the first place, he can't attack face with followers buffed by Leonidas' resolve. It gives rush, not storm.
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>>158138436
>>plays minions with a lethal amount of damage
m8
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96130 open for one last set of private take 2 games if anyone interested.
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>>158138090
>Aurelia will never pull you by the arm and lead you to a special place
>you will never pull Tsubaki by her arm leading her to a spacial place
>Otomeme will never dance in your special place

my special place is the pack opening screen and I'll never pull any of them
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>>158138668
>>158138604
Was faster pointing out my own mistake :^)
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>>158137243
>most hated
Runecraft and Forest. Reminds me of playing against blue in mtg.

>most played
Haven or blood probably. Haven has very good removal which makes it great for control and blood reminds me of handlock

>best character
Pic related

>strong but fair card
Satan. It loses tons of tempo the turn it is played but can win you the game by itself if you live long enough
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>>158138496
Bloody Mary lets you do 5+ damage to your opponent's face and is soft ward because of her firepower. Soul Dealer's ward is pretty useless since it's only 6 HP after an evolve, which is pretty easily broken if the opponent has anything. You don't actually want to be in vengeance that early since it's not like you can play anything significant besides Righteous Devil.
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>>158138780
How does this make you feel, anon?
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>>158138496
>Blood Mary is like a 4/5 ward.
No. No she's not.
I have a feeling you have no idea how to use Bloody Mary. You don't play her naked, you play her on the same turn you play cards that damage you. For instance, a common late game Blood turn is Bloody Mary + Dire Bond, which is honestly insane. You get a 4/5, deal 6 damage to your opponent, and start drawing an extra card and gain 2 life every turn.
And if you Bloody Mary + 2 razor claws you deal 10 damage in burst. That's half someone's life from 3 cards that cannot be stopped in any way.
And what Soul Dealer actually does is fucking kill you. He's a shit tier ward because he has higher attack than health so he dies easily, and while he gives you vengeance it's really not worth it. You don't even want to be in vengeance early except for something like Righteous Devil, and you're really just putting yourself at a huge risk except against the slowest of control decks. And in the late game Soul Dealer is just absolute garbage.
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>>158138993
You can play Bloody Mary on curve just fine. It's not optimal, but she's still a soft ward regardless because the threat of 2x dire bonds or 2x razory claws the next turn is just too big to ignore.
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>>158138932
DELETE THIS
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>>158138690

???
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>play oldschool control haven with seraph added in unranked
>matched against heal haven
>build wall
>Themis his board 2 times when it got too big
>build more wall
>drop seraph with no cd reduction in hand
>he vomits his hand on the board
>Themis him 3rd time
>concedes
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>>158137243
>What is your most hated class? Why?
Rune because its fucking solitaire or Haven because of the fucking healing
>What is your most played class? Is it fun to play it?
Sword and Blood. Blood is easily the most fun class in the game
>Who is the best character? Post pic.
Vania
>What card do you think is strong but fair?
Cant decide
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>>158137243
>What is your most hated class?
Rune and Haven, their decks are literally cancer
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I just dusted some shitty silvers/golds and crafted two otomemes. Don't even feel bad.
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Otohime in Bannerswords
Yes or no?
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So is this like good hearthstone?

Also, could you post your favorite card art? I wanna see if it has more than anime girls
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>>158140057
Otohime in everything.
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>>158140143
No its the same, instead of facing shaman all day you face haven
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>>158140057
Viking and Pirate is better

>>158140143
>pic related best bro
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>>158140143
Yes, but not as better as it used to be. They fucked up the meta with the latest expansion. At least there's nowhere near as much RNG
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>>158140143
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>>158140057
No, she's too slow.
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>>158140143
Just type in Rage of Bahamut since that is where all the cards are from.

Alexander the Great is pretty badass.
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>>158140371
>he preferred the swordmeta
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Some post Earth Rite lists, I have Sun Oracle and I wanna use her.
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>>158139580
Really sorry about that Wimmil. My internet exploded in the middle of that match. It's still acting wonky right now so I am afraid to get disconnected again during another match.
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>>158140143
>So is this like good hearthstone?
Not really. The current meta is basically HS aggro-ish.
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>>158140321
I want to have Aesthetic Knight's children!
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>>158140452
I did.
Sure there was a lot of Midrange Sword, and I hated that deck, but there were lots of other decks too. 5/7 of the classes had a tier 1 deck and you saw all of them on ladder pretty frequently. There was also less aggro overall.
Now only 3 classes have a tier 1 deck, and of the, what, 5? tier 1 decks it's divided among those 3. The meta has also become so fast you can't fuck around as much anymore. Shit sucks.
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>>158136940
>826 posts in the previous thread
Nice
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>>158140461
She's only useful right after Remi evolve, or if you have Juno's.
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>>158140371
>>158140567
>>158140776
So far though the meta seems to evolve quite frequently. So it is possible that we start complaining about control decks again in a few weeks like the Dark Satan Days.
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Should I craft 3 otohimes or 2 otohimes and a tsubaki?
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>>158140143
I'm having more fun than in Hearthstone.
But hard too tell, because I only have one great, one decent and one average deck so far.
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>>158140950
I fucking doubt it. As long as DShift is around control will never be viable, and as long as Sprint Haven is around aggro will also be everywhere.
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>tfw you force a heal memer to kill your Leo or die
>tfw you drop a Otomeme right after he dies and win anyways
I'll replace him with a second Olivia the moment I roll one but for now he's a endless fountain of entertainment.
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>>158141024
Tsubaki is interchangable with Ruthless so probably Otohime.
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>>158137243
>What is your most hated class? Why?
Haven. It's fucking everywhere, making Ranked a fucking dull and tedious grind and also killed my favorite class.
>What is your most played class? Is it fun to play it?
Shadowcraft. Do you like playing Black/Golgari in Magic? That's what this is. Lots of sacrificing your stuff for gains and making use of the corpses in some way.
>Who is the best character? Post pic.
<-
>What card do you think is strong but fair?
For as much shit as the card receives, I actually think that Tia is quite well designed in a vacuum. It's just that she's in a class that already has a bunch of broken shit which pushes the tempo gain you get from her over the edge.
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>>158140143
Not my favorite but I really like this art. Too bad it's just a vanilla minion that will never see play.
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>>158140950
>So it is possible that we start complaining about control decks again in a few weeks like the Dark Satan Days.
Now that DShift Rune has become a thing, it won't ever happen. It's literally the gatekeeper class that will prevent control from ever being viable again.
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>>158140538

I see. No biggie. Thought you have some emergency or something.
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>>158140143
Unlike Shamanstone, the art is consistent as fuck. There are no Kill Command quality trash in the game. The only thing shitstone has on Shadowverse is a better, cleaner looking field. The new PC UI fixes a lot of the visual issues that plague the game.

There are plenty of manly men (Urias, Rowen, all the male sword guys like Leo, Alex, etc..) and fuccbois (Luci, Alucard, Azazel, vamp/elf bard, haven prince etc..). You just never see people posting them, because who the fuck is going to post pretty boys?
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>>158141226
Damn this reminds me of when I played Duel Masters back when I was a kid on my PS2.

Might give it a go just because of this post anon
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>>158140950
No, Decks that just instant win against anything that doesn't kill them within like 8 turns will just make everyone go aggro.

Which is why everyone is aggro
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>>158141297
>the art is consistent as fuck
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>>158141297
>the art is consistent as fuck
That's not even close to true
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>>158141237
Until there are cards like "Rush 1/1 when this card deals damage to the enemy lead they discard a random card from their hand." "Look at your opponents hand and discard 1 card." "Your opponent discards the highest/lowest cost card from their hand." "Your opponent can only play follower cards while this card is on the field."
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>>158141297
>vamp bard
I didn't even know this cuteboi was a thing. Is he viable?
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>>158141297
Dragonewt Charlotte's art quality is noticeably inferior.
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>>158141084
>>158141237
Don't worry, we just need to wait a couple of weeks when people stop playing D-shift since they can't deal with the aggro. Then control decks will take over an crush the aggros.

Of course, this will be followed by the return of D-shift deck, the Jörmungandr of the meta that causes the great circle of meta to start all over again.
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>>158141297
>consistent art
>mobage
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>>158140143
My favorite is an anime girl, but since you said you wanted to see something different.
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>>158141584
Your mother is inferior.
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>>158141536
IS bloodcraft the fag class?
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Post your favorite semen demon.
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>>158141530
>Your opponent can only play follower cards while this card is on the field
Stop, I can only get so erect.
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>>158141680
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>>158141596
Dshift Players are too noble and loyal to switch.

They play not for the victory, but to keep us safe from Seraph and PtP.
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>>158141480
Care to post an example? Hearthstone has so much to pick from, I would say the decently drawn cards are the exception.

>>158141584
Are you fucking telling me Charlotte is anywhere near as bad as this? Not, it being """guest"""" art doesn't excuse it, it's still part of the game, and the core set to boot, so it's always going to be played.
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>>158141584
>bullying Charlotte
you're inferior
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>>158141635
It's primarily slutty demon girls.
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>>158136940
Just curios is this game made by mobage or cigames? because that card is from one of their old games.
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>>158141203

Seems like a lot of people hate haven. I myself find it pretty much the least desirable matchup in ranked too.

I don't have Tia but yeah I think it is a pretty fair strong card too.
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>>158141427
>>158141793
>he makes the same two posts everyday
How much do you get paid?
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>>158141819
Me on the right.
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>>158141536
He's decent. I played him in a bloodcraft bat brew before DE, but nowadays there are better options. Especially with all the Havens running around. His strength is that's he's sticky so even if he dies you'll have some semblance of a board left.
Kinda sad since I got two animated ones.
>>158141635
Bloodcraft is just the sexy attractive demon/vampire class.
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>>158141821
Soon friends
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After a month of playing, I know have pretty much complete decks of tempo forest, storm haven and midrange sword. On the scale 0-10, how cancerous am I?
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>>158141624
While it's true the quality isn't super consistent it never dips nearly as low as some of Hearthstone's card art.
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>>158141631
>>158141793
>>158141821
Please calm down.
You can't tell me this doesn't stand out when compared to the rest of the cards in the game.

I never said it was Skill Command levels of bad.
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"""""consistent art"""""
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>>158141880
>He shills for Blizzard for free
You could at least ask for a cut from the Heroic Brawl :^), Last (you) you'll get, don't spend it all in one place.
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>>158142048
It makes my dick stand out, that's for sure.
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Shingeki no Bahamut died due to mismanagement.

Will Shadowverse die soon too?
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>>158141840
>made by mobage
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>>158141840

Cygames
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>>158141793
"consistent"
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>>158142085
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Can I get a concede please for my daily?

96418
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>>158142048
i actually have no idea what you're talking about, I love her art. It doesn't need to be majestic to be nice..
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>>158142150
RoB is still alive in the one place that matters.
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>>158142156
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>>158142048
So what's wrong with this art? It looks fine.
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>Elf Child May
May what?
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>>158142035
>know have pretty much complete decks of tempo forest, storm haven and midrange sword
I just hate you for how lucky you seem to be with your pack rolls. I've been playing for a month, too, and the only deck I've got decently together is and at least almost consistent mess of a Midrange Shadow that just runs a bunch of 1s and 2s of golds and leggos.
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>>158142261
you mind trading concedes? i got this daily too
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>>158142048
Not really honestly. There are worse looking cards in the game. That art's not even bad at all.
I'd say Sammy sticks out more, especially her Evolved Art.
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>>158142336
May suck on my dick.
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>>158142336
Elf Child May Cry
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>>158142234
All I see is good, and better. Now post the Arcane Intellect, BGH, skill command, anything drawn by that hack genzo man, Savanah "my head is three quarters of my body" Highmane, and the list is fucking endless.
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Am i gonna let this slip senpai

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/2.2.625k2.65wcO.5-HbC.5-Hbq.625kC.625kM.625lc.628AI.61NLS.5-HbM.625kq.628Aw.65vt2.65-lY.5-IK4.5-IK4.61KvC.61LeE.5-HbW.625k-.628Bi.62BLQ.5zWmg.62D2y.5-K1S.5-K1S.62D36.65yJm.65yJm.628Bs#
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>>158142339
Remember to dust your shittier cards and animated ones.
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>>158142234
You're right. Lilith looks so much better.
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>>158140657
london
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>>158142383
First legitimate case of bad art in the game I've seen so far. Everything else is just Blizzard hired shitposters grasping at straws.
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>>158142370
>>158142261

thanks
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>>158142336
May bounce in and out my deck.
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>>158142598
yeah thanks for the trade homer
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>>158142590
It's not even really that bad, just kind of rough, mostly with the coloring. I still like it honestly.
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>>158142513
For a petite demon she sure has a fat ass.
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>>158142513
>Those thighs
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>>158142383
Eh, that's not even that bad. Just looks bad when compared with everything else that's in the game.
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>>158142590
>>158142760
I actually like her art. It's just so different form everything else in the game: it's super loose and painterly where almost all the other art is much cleaner. There's honestly not really any bad art on the level of HS so the art inconsistency is mostly stylistic, and she's just the biggest example.
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>>158142760
Well even training and drawing every day for one year i wouldn't be capable of doing something in this level.
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Listen up guys, I dont like talking about meta shit but I think a lot of posters come off as very agressive and angry towards Hearthstone whenever people ask for comparisons

I think that makes us look bitter because HS is more popular à la Dota players hating LoL and that is ultimately counterproductive to showing people the advantages Shadowverse has over HS
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>Forestcraft player is so retarded he maxes his hand and burns a draw

Gets me every time.
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>>158142981
If I could have it my way we wouldn't talk about HS at all and nobody would shitpost in their thread but it's too late for that.

I agree with you though.
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When I hear art consistency, in my opinion, I imagine it all being drawn by one artist like GBF or a lot of console games. PAD, RoB, SV and most mobages have several different artists so the art is very different.
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>>158143021
>turns out its PtP Forest
who's laughing now
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>>158143021
But anon what if he is playing ptp and wants more shadows?
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>>158142981
>Accommodating normies
No thanks, Hearthstone is shit for a reason. Besides, it doesn't matter what you do, they'll be put off by anime tiddies anyways, and they'll either quit or demand censorship and change.
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>>158142981
Tell that to the people who keep bringing up HS.
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>>158142981
Yeah, one of my favorite advantages is not playing against the same class over and over


oh wait
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>>158143021
That's not always a misplay. Burning cards = shadows and sometimes you wanna max your hand for a sweet, sweet, full value Altered Fate. Or maybe you just want a bunch of little fairies for a roach combo and don't need to draw any more cards.
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>>158143021
>gains another shadow
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>>158143021
t. a shitter
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>>158142981
But most of the time it happens, the people actually explain why SV is better.
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>>158142981
No fuck that, I don't want the SV community to be overrun with Hearthstone's horrible community. Some migration is fine but if too many come over it'll go straight to hell.
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>>158142981

I don't think sv is better in hs in production value but it is a comfy game so I am sticking with it.

>>158143021

Burning a card hardly matters for forest.
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>>158143194
not him, but it tends to be new people to the thread which can't be helped I guess, but it's annoying that it usually spirals into hs vs sv comparisons.

i just want to talk about sv, not hs.
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>>158143021
>Hahaha what a retard they have me beat in hand advantage and they are gaining shadows for their biggest win condition hahaha what retards why do I keep losing hahahaha
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>>158143306
Making comparisons and cross thread shitposting is exactly why this thread is getting more hsfags recently, you realize that right?
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>>158143398
PtP's win condition is mostly just using rhinos
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>tfw got all the (You)s
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>>158143393

People are seeking some reason for them to convert from hs to sv here, I guess. Hs is in a pretty miserable state right now.
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>>158143532
Nah, it's really because HS has gone straight to hell and they need a better game to play.
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Is it worth keeping 3 Gabes?
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>>158142502
I made it senpai
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Is underbrush beast girl the cutest card in both art and voice acting?
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>>158143712
Now you see the power of curving out.
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>>158143642
Most decks only use 1 and even the most I've ever seen is 2. I had 3 before and already dusted one of them. I don't see any reason why you'd want 3 in a deck.
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>>158143750
Yes. Might as well just release only dragons and skellies form now on, since it's pointless to release more cute girls.
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I hope Flame Destroyer Jr. becomes viable one day. Maybe Rune will have a UR style tempo deck in the future.
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>>158143905
How about cute skellies
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>>158143593
i know there are many people looking for a new game so they can quit hs, that's why i say it can't be helped in a way, but you know what I mean right? the sv community here has just gotten worse over time ever since we migrated off mbgg and got more attention from the hs community.

>>158143632
yes, and most of them would find other games if it wasn't for the constant comparisons made between these two games and cross thread shitposting recently that all started by streamers sponsoring it.

how many fags do you see in other places and even here sometimes saying how they don't like the artstyle but they're still playing it, if it weren't for the comparisons they'd have tried a different card game and never given this a chance.
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>>158143968
It really would be much better if it was a 3/3 or 4/4 with scaled up cost
a vanilla 2/2 anywhere after turn 2 or 3 isnt really going to do anything
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>Fairy-chan Daisuki!

What did he mean by this?
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>>158143192
>demand censorship
but that's already happened
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>>158144028
>the sv community here has just gotten worse over time ever since we migrated off mbgg and got more attention from the hs community.

It can't be helped too. Prepare to get more people whining here in /svg/ after the steam version hit.
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>>158143971
Maybe
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>>158143192
Hate to break it to you dumb anime poster, but SV has already gotten censored, multiple times.
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>>158144131
I'm holding out faith. I think there's potential for her, just being able to stick an extra body on the board for free at any time has potential.
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>>158144273
>the sv community here has just gotten worse over time ever since we migrated off mbgg and got more attention from the hs community.

How long until we have ERPing like /gbfg/
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>>158144325
wow go back to tumblr anon!!! since u clearly browse it daily
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>>158144480
>>158144273
To be fair, there has been several posts on /hsg/ shilling SV, most likely from the regulars here.

/svg/ really does have an inferiority complex about /hsg/ no matter how much you deny it.
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>>158144273
What do you think all the new players will be whining about that isn't even that strong? Satan?
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>>158144689
Dshift
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>>158143712
>swordfag in arena
It's like winning the paralympics as an able bodied person.
Now 5-0 with Blood.
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>>158144480
if i had a choice, i'd honestly rather have erping than people bitching that every single remotely effective card in the game exists and that the last deck they lost to in ranked is overpowered and circlejerking about sv being better than hs.

>>158144609
i really want the communities to stay separate but people keep doing this shit. i guess i'm just bitching about the inevitable at this point.
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>>158144609
But I dont want /hsg/ cancer in here or anywhere near this game
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>>158144870
>i'd honestly rather have erping than people bitching that every single remotely effective card in the game exists and that the last deck they lost to in ranked is overpowered
This will never not happen in a competitive game. Community size doesn't matter. There will always be bitching because people don't like to lose.
This is even worse for card games because, just by their nature, you're going to lose a lot.
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Someone post cute Lunas
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Jesus, fuck Tia.
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>>158145114
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>>158145114
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This art, though.
Such a goddamn cutie.
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>>158145113
it wasn't nearly this bad until recently though. I know it's going to inevitably happen sometimes, but the community growth had a large part to do with it happening so often now, especially with a lot of new people being hs players prone to bitching about literally everything it being their first card game.
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>>158145272
I wish I could do the part, but you're right. Jesus is probably the only able to get that sweet sweet crystal cunny.
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>>158145303
That card is such bullshit. Forest was already broken and they add this shit to makes things even worse.
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Instead of animal companion, Beelzebub's effect should summon a 2/2 swarm of insects with bane, drain, storm, rush, and ward every time.
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>>158145887
>storm and rush
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>>158145980
a swarm, so i assume he means multiple

that sure sounds balanced.
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>>158145980
If they ever print a card that negates storm, the token would still be able to rush.
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Would increasing Dshift cost to 20 change anything
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>>158146064
m8 it would just have storm. I wouldn't object to your suggestion though.
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>>158145980
I think he means 4 different insects with 1 copy of each effect. So 4/4 LotF, 2/2 bane, 2/2 drain, 2/2 rush, storm, 2/2 ward. Except the follower limit is 5, so...
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>>158145408
Why do you automatically assume anyone bitching about balance to be HS players?

It's this retarded scapegoating that leads to the circlejerks we get all the time.
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>>158146076
It wouldn't change a damn thing. It would have to be boosted to 30 before you would notice anything.
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>>158146147
That would be broken as hell.
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>>158146031
>>158146147
No, swarm of insects would just be the 2/2 token. Being a swarm is, flavor wise, why it has a fuckton of keywords.

>>158146139
Having Storm and Rush is still relevant (even if currently redundent) because there's a possibility of cards being printed that interact with specific keywords.

IE a 2 mana 1/2 with "while this follower is in play, Storm does not have any effect". A card with just storm would not be able to attack on play in this situation, but a card with both would be able to attack minions.

That and it would be funny.
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Lets see how cancerous you guys are.
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>>158146154
they're not always hs players of course, but shit's been getting worse ever since the comparisons started being drawn and people started shitposting in hsg and the community grew large enough to get its own general

what am i supposed to think? especially when the thread can't seem to help but circlejerk about sv being better than hs every fucking thread.

>It's this retarded scapegoating that leads to the circlejerks we get all the time.
no, it starts because the moment someone mentions hs for any reason, people can't help but start circlejerking. the shit in this thread didn't start because i said something about hs players bitching about balance, it started because of people comparing art between the two games, remember?
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>>158146076
I don't know why people complain about DS when shit like storm haven or any forest deck are far worse.
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>>158146076
Nothing short of slowing it down so that it can only be played on turn 11 onwards (making it effectively as low as Satan), or forbidding playing it back to back, will ever make a difference. That or they can just fucking print spell hate already.
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Do I dare meme?
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>>158146819
Don't do it, mang. Don't do it.
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>>158146819
Biggest faggot in the world if you don't. You can get the faggot, boring Cynthia midrange draft any time you want.
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>you still lose rank even for ties

I guess you either suck it up and lose rank or be an asshole.
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>>158146819
Of course you do
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>>158147049
ties count as your loss if you are the one to initiate it.

So in the case of someone having 3 hp and you having 2 hp, if you use that blood card that would result in both players having 0 health, your opponent would win and you would lose.
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>>158147049
There are no ties though?

All Blood self-damage effects have priority so if you Demonic Storm or Razory Claw for lethal while lethaling yourself, win goes to the opponent.
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>>158147261
claws first deal 2 dmg to you, and then deal 3 dmg to whatever you targeted, in that order
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>>158147263
It's pretty fucking bullshit in the case of Demonic Storm though. At least for Claws, you take the damage before you deal it, so it makes sense.
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>>158146578
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>>158147414
I don't think the ordering matters, demonic storm hits everyone at once for 3.
You will still you if you initiate the tie
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>>158146819
I got Queen Meme lethal in arena today, felt good.
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>>158146578
Smelly, dumb, Elf scum.
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Type this name in your post to receive a free standard pack.
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Which one /svg/?
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>>158146578
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>>158147998
Stop being retarded
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>>158147998
I dunno, probably the one with the game-winning late game card and the best late-game single target removal. Tough choice.
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>>158146578

Sword is banner meems
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>>158146578
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>>158146578
I'm a casual.
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>>158148265
>>158148334
Why do some people have different color backgrounds?
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>>158148493

Probably game time
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>>158147998
Easy right. Meme Dominator, allows you to dominate memes.
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Artifact block when? Those are usually the most broken blocks.
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After careful study and contemplation I have come to the conclusion that forestcraft has the objectively best girls and boys and liking anything else is pure faggotry - and not the fun kind.
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>>158146578
At some point my durdle Satan Rune deck wasn't cutting it anymore, which makes me sad. I crafted Dshift, since I enjoyed Rune so much, but I honestly dislike playing it, because it's so focused on combo and now I'm filled to burst with regret.
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>>158149776
Make up your mind, man.
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>>158146578
I'd say somewhat cancerous
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Fuck me, why does the Elana's Prayer combo keep going if the opponent is at full defense?

>"Whenever your leader's defense is RESTORED"
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>>158150109
Because their health is technically restored, it's just at max so it doesn't do anything
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>>158150051
Why? I enjoy playing every class.
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The elite bladecraft is pounding me in the ass so hard
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>>158150259
>Because their health is technically restored
I'm sorry, I just don't see how that's the case.
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>>158150339
it says +0 when they heal at max hp, so the healing effect does happen.
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>>158150339
You're confusing semantics with mechanics here.
Yes, going by dictionary definitions nothing is restored. But by gameplay mechanics the health is restored but since you are at max health you don't actually get any more health. Hence the +0 health thing.
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>>158145272
'no'
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>>158150541
>>158150437
Guess it's a matter of me just having to deal with it then, I suppose.
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>Wake up
>No steam release
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>>158150818
You got a fucked up sleep schedule my man.
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Tournament starts in 2 hours right?
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>>158151058
If there are no delays.
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how long does it take for leapdroid to launch. i've been staring at the lepdroid logo for about a minute now.
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>>158151263
It's a shame Ten didn't make it.

He was definitely my favorite player.
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>>158151263
7 seconds. I just counted.
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>>158146578
And no, this is not the face dragon deck.
>>158151263
Not very long. Is your computer a potato?
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How likely is it that I'll want to kill myself if I try rerolling for a swordcraft start?
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>>158151263
Enable virtualization in your bios.
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>>158151601
Every single sword legendary is good in some way so probably not likely, you can't get a bad one for them.
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>>158151601
littery nothing.

Swordcraft has the cheapest deck
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>>158151601
Likely.

4 legendaries you'll use is the best you can realistically hope for. Just pray the packs after the reroll (Elite gold, arena tickets, score/achievement ) won't be pure shit.
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>>158151743
>>158151757
I must've misread the guide. I thought you were supposed to aim for a large amount of legendaries.
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>>158146578
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>>158151058
No, it should start 9AM JST which is in 40 minutes.
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>>158151757
CONTROL Sword. Sword has both the cheaptes, AND the most expensive decks, by far. There's not a single deck that can reach 50k+ vials without being a meme, except for Sword, which can easily run 13 legendaries in a tier 1 or tournament deck.
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>>158151831
you are, but unlike something like haven you can't get a garbage haven one like skullfane

you can play swordcraft with 0 legendaries as well, they have simultaneously the most expensive and least expensive deck in the game. eventually you will need them all but you can play swordcraft just fine without them.
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Will we see Blood on stream today?
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>>158151993
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>>158151993

We saw face dragon and shadow, I don't see why not
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stream link?
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>>158151885
I'm pretty sure they said 10am.
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>>158151993
Are they allowed to change decks?
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>>158146578
Rate?
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did any of you do the leave ranked matches for score points meme before you started playing ranked?
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>>158152478
aggro/10
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>>158146819
>tfw actually got the meme win
>tfw misplayed repeatedly in the game and still got it
F A I R Y Q U E E N
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>>158146578
For what it's worth, ~150 of the Haven games were before DE
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>>158146578
Hate me! LOATHE me!

i played satan haven pre de, i am a control guy
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>>158146578
pls no bully
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>>158153475
Thats a lot of games, dawg!
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>>158153475
>like 900+ wins
jesus. Tell me you're Master rank
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>>158153613
I'm in D.
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>>158153719
>sandbagging scum
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Suggestions? Just started playing a couple days ago.
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>>158153613
AA3
elo hell is real FeelsBadMan Fuck heaven
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>>158153878
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>>158153878
run 3 playful necros, take out elder spartois.

replace spartoi with deathchaser if you have her

run 3x spartoi sergeant

remove burial grounds and replace with skull beasts

use deathbrand if you have it
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>>158146578
In my defense, I'm playing a Earth Rite deck
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>>158154467
Post it you slut
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>>158154283
fat
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Hey guys, can i get a quick concede please? I dont mind if you want to play it out
66577
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>>158146578
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>>158155007
Thanks again, Roadagain
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>>158154467
Thats still cancer

>Play card that summons 3 wards plus psacale
>win game
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>>158155156
>Earth Rite
>win game
something doesn't add up here
>>
>Play arena
>Everyone I run into either has Olivia and swings the match or is sword and just faces me down by turn 5


great game guys
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>>158155121

vania is love

vania is life
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>>158155156
t. Aggro faggot.
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>>158155156
Of all the things to call cancer, I don't think a tier 4 deck is one of those.
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>>158155156
>Earth Rite
>play something that wins the game
It has literally no wincon unless you put Satan in, its a grinder deck
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>>158155402
>Literally vomit golems on the board and throw a pascale at the last turn
>not cancer

Its like aggro but with wards
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>>158155156
People really will bitch about everything
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fuck dragon and shadow
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>>158154564
I edit it slightly whenever the need arises. The Runic Guardians are a new addition I'm testing out because I keep running into face decks and the Apprentice Alchemists weren't cutting it so I'd only play them with hesitation.
I'm still looking for Lucifers and Pascales though I have no idea how I'll end up making room for either.

I'm B1 and climing, currently. I've only been playing for a few days now. Only just got my second pack from the login so I guess that'd be 10 days.

>>158155156
I mostly did it because I have a fetish for all things alchemy and Veteran Alchemist being my waifu is just an added bonus.
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>>158155708
Dragon has the best girls and it's the most fun
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>>158155594
You mean aggro that can barely hit face, is largely defensive in play and only starts getting kinda strong at like turn 6?
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>>158155327
>Vania
>>
>2 Dimension shifts in a row
Why is this allowed?
>>
can someone enlight me on Blood Mary deck
I try the one from Gamepress but I was so shit I cant even beat Shadowcraft AI with it
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>>158155846
dumb frogposter
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>>158155882
Because retards will respond to you and say it's balanced.
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>>158155882
Could be worse. It could've been 3 DS

That mathup literally comes down to how many dudes you can spam in the first 4 turns. Firechain is fucking retarded
>>
Aggro blood and Control blood are the only acceptable decks

FT. Vampyfags
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CASUAL GAIJIN GO HOME EAT HAMBURGER
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>>158156092

>>158156195
Literally all the decks in this game play themselves. I dont know how this is an achievement, it only shows you spent more time than others
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>>158155882
win by turn 8 or die son
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>>158155846
>>158136953
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>>158156498
>tfw you rolled Halloween Cagliostro
I don't even play that shit game anymore, but I can't resist free rolls
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>>158156328
thisiswhatbloodplayersactuallybelieve.jpg
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Havencraft, Runecraft or Shadowcraft for T2?
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>>158157180
luna
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>>158157180
Shadowcraft and Swordcraft are usually seen as the best arena classes. I think rn Haven is a strong counter-pick though. Runecraft is bad, too inconsistent and difficult to get real power cards underway.
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https://www.openrec.tv/live/v_ZjDaSASl5

Rage stream in ~30m
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>>158155594
yeah the worst deck in the game is clearly cancer
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Do you guys think we will get more gold rewards for the new bots?
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Any advice on this face dragon deck? Only have 2 fortes and first time building it
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>>158157469
Hard to imagine why not.
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>>158157351
>>158157209
Yeah wanted to try Haven but rather just win to stockpile so I can play more I think.
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>>158157502
nice control deck, dance of death for serpents
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>>158157743
Addendum on first - Spirit Cycle / Foul Tempest or Satan / Wight King. Leaning on right for near instant win alone.
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>>158157453
Don't care about the winrate. Its concept is cancer

>Drop wards and then an I win u card

Its like Dshift essentially
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>>158157351
>Shadowcraft
Literally every time i play that piece of shit class never get good cards and barely scrap 3 wins. Never got lord of flies/howl/playful necromancer dying breat cerberus no nothing. i end up getting grinded out
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>>158157743
Well, I can only speak for my own experiences but I do really believe it's a strong choice. I've been playing take 2 for a few weeks now since I started the game, my average is over 4 wins and with the daily bonuses I can pretty much do it infinitely. I've had more 5-0 wins with haven than with any other class.

I think haven particularly counters sword in arena, which is the most popular class. To a lesser extent it counters shadow, which is also popular. I don't feel it has any special advantage vs. dragon which must be the second or third most played class in take 2 but I don't feel it's disadvantaged either.
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>>158157502
-goblins
-Wrath
-Ironscale
-roc

+Dragon Warrior, shit nigger 3 is core in everything
+Scholar
+Sieg/Hunt, max both
+Dance of Death, you aggro shit
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>>158157987
>playing wards is cancer
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>>158157987
Oh I get it now.
You are actually retarded.
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>>158157987
>its a "i was playing (aggro deck) and got cucked by earth rite" episode
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>>158157931
As a first pick, I'd pick left. Spirit Cycle is usually too cute for arena. Foul Tempest worth considering but you really want it at 3. Either of these are easier picks when you can see how your draft is shaping up.
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>>158157987
>Playing a deck that loses board to Earthrite Rune so they can set up
>Its like Dshift essentially
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>>158158305
Taunt is cheat!
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>>158158139
It's tough to draft an absolutely trash shadow deck. You don't need all or any of those cards. Playful Necromancer is kind of interesting, because it's obviously a great card but I think it can go wasted if you have board initiative already and with cards like Cerberus, Ceridwen and Charon shadow has come to shine on turn 5.
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>>158157987
>Drop wards and then an I win u card
Except Pascale is useless without winning on the board already

And even if you menage to play her and buff a bunch of golems at the end of your turn
>lol themis
>lol revelation
>lol burn
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>>158158416
Uh, pick RIGHT sorry.
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>>158155743
Aren't there too many sigils?
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>>158158291
Unfortunately i don't have dragonewt scholars. They're gold cards right?
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>>158155743
Do people really name their decks after google translated names of the japanese decks?
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which one
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>>158158416
Too late, I can only make this a meme run now.
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>>158158849
Yeh.
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>>158158913
Oh man, that's a tough one.
>>
>>158158913

I'd go right
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>>158158913
i'd say right, you'd be well off with either one but Alex cleans houses and Otohime fills yours
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>>158158913
>big unremovable ward and removal
vs
>board clear and board fill
pottery
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>>158158913
I think right is better against other swords which most of the time will be your 4-0 opponent.
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remember to mourn for our man iamstupid3
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>>158158913
Either is fine. Otohime is proactive, Aurelia is reactive. Alexander fills a similar role to Aurelia later in the game. Tsubaki is good removal, but also sometimes wasted removal.

I'd probably pick right just because on the whole it's the more active choice, but you can choose left. Just let what you pick inform the rest of the draft. In general you don't want to assume you don't have the board, which puts Otohime > Aurelia.
>>
>japs greeting each other good morning in stream chat
It's so cute
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>>158158440
>mindlessly drop until cards
>Up until you draw dshift/pascale
>Not the same
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>>158159475
you're aware you can kill the golems after they get buffed by pascale right?
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>>158159428
Not as cute as you anon.
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>>158159639
>if theres an earth rite its 3 10/10s
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someone got a link for the tourney?
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>>158159639
but if my minions kill other minions they arent alive to hit face? how do you plan to fix this Cygames? what kind of fucking monstrous, insane creature could possibly kill a 3/3 golem before turn 5? what kind of mechanic exists in the game that lets me turn all of my 1/1 aggro creatures into such powerful, heroic beings that they could face down a 3/3 golem in equal combat??????? yeah I thought so, all cards above 1 toughness are CANCER and MUST be removed
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>>158159475
>Requires you to be winning on board or to hold your golems and pascale in hand until late game
>Susceptible to board clears, even after you drop Pascale
>Lack of insane cycling
>Opponents have to kill the golems anyways since they have ward
>Doesn't result in an OHKO the turn it's dropped unless you were winning already
>Thinks its on the level of Dshift

It'll only get worse when the Steam babbies arrive
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>>158159967
how does the other player have 3 EVOLVED golems up when they have pascale hit

you're actually just retarded aren't you
>>
How do you fix Sigil Witch anyway? I think the main problem is the insane board space that sigil usually ends up taking especially when you've got Juno running. Not to mention most cards that drop sigils are heavily overcosted.
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>>158160189
Thres an spell that summon golems and gives them +2/2 if theres an earth rite

>>158160162
>Earth rite has problem using the curse that wipes the board one turn previosu

>Dshift doesn't get shafted by aggro
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Should I reroll this? 1x Genesis Dragon on the other page.
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How many people are left in the tournament?
>>
It begins lads.
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>>158160342
Maybe if 2 or more earth sigils are on the field they consolidate into a single earth sigil with counters on it, in exchange this means that earth rune players can no longer use cards like kaliedoscopic glow to reuse their on cast sigil effects. This is the only solution I can think of that makes sense to me.
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>>158160518
128->8 today.
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>>158160397
yes, it summons ONE you retard and costs 5, so if you play him and pascale on the same turn you can't play anything else.

are you incapable of counting?
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>>158158751
I only run into that problem on occasion, honestly. Board space can get tight sometimes but there's plenty of times where I don't draw into any sigils too. I think I'm at a decent balance as far as sigils go. I'd maybe take out one or two at most.

>>158158856
I am perfectly aware of how incorrect "transcendental" is. I just like the ring to it. I never thought I'd be in a position for anyone to read them, anyways.

Not like my Earth Rite deck has any Pascales in it to warrant the name, either.
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>>158142048
>Colorful, fun, sexy, imaginative, accurate anatomy, interesting background

Yes, this art is truly shit.
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>>158160597
Ok

clear board drop 2 golems

Next 1 plus pascale
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WE TOURNEY
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>>158160773
if they can clear your board what's stopping you from killing literally just 2 3/3s on turn fucking 10? because calamitous curse costs 6 + 4 from the 2 golems

not to mention they'd need to set up 3 earth rites beforehand to proc calamitous, golem protection, and pascale


if you don't have the ability to remove 2 3/3's with 10pp then you already lost.
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good drops.
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>>158160818
https://www.openrec.tv/live/v_ZjDaSASl5
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what commanders should i use for a banner meme deck? would having too much makle maid leader bad?
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>>158143192
>A private corporation voluntarily creating different versions of a product to accommodate the expectations of the local market in order to maximize profitability and thereby meet its legal obligation to shareholders

CENSORSHIP!!1!
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>>158160478
G-guys help me get into this crappy game, I don't want to have to ask reddit
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>>158161076
Thank you non-retard
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>>158160342
As the Sigilfag who started all of this shitposting I'm so sorry I mostly just want a better draw card. Something like "2PP: draw - earth rite: draw 2."
I haven't gotten to play around with Pascale yet so I don't know how well she serves as a finisher but seeing as how her effect is EoT I doubt she's sufficient so I wouldn't mind some way to swing for game.
And like everyone's been saying, I wouldn't lament some leniency as far as room on the board goes. 5 spaces is so restrictive.
Maybe something like Prism Priest but for sigils and more Remi/Rami-like evolve effects but I'm reaching at this point.

Just make Cog a card and a leader next expansion.
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<3
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>>158161076
is this live?
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>>158150818
Stay strong, Nico!
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>>158160773
so... if you don't have pascale, which is at most 3 out of 40 of your cards... then what? you are just playing a shitty deck that summons 3/3s ,loses early and midgame to every meta deck, and also loses late game to other control decks

there's a reason it has an actual shit winrate, so there's no need to act like the deck is hot shit. accept the fact that you got assblasted in that match you just played and move on.
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>>158161206
ELOISE PogChamp
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NO SO STRONG WITHOUT YOUR AMULETS, HUH?
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>dem Manyus

It's over
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>>158161104
Avant and Banner.
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>>158161235
yes
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>>158160342
>>158161168
Oh, and on top of all of this: the ability to choose if you trigger Earth Rites or not would be really fucking nice. Ditto for Necromancy. I hate blowing a sigil for no reason on Calamitous casts when everything's at 1 HP.
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Remove solitaire.
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top deck death draw
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>incoming noobs in card games crying about TOPDECK :((( in 3... 2... 1.....
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>run 50 simulations in your head on how to stay alive
>opponent top decks the winning card
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RUNA
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If I'm interested in Dragon at all while starting out I should just keep rerolling until I have at least one Forte among other passable stuff, right?
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>>158162017
Every dragon deck runs 3 Forte. You might want to try for 2+ but that's unlikely. So at the very very least 1.
>>
rip Luna-chan.
>>
um am I retarded? does anyone else think he should have pinged the 4/3 for 2 and rammed the quickblader in? it would have left a 2/2 up instead of a 4/3 at the cost of a quickblader.
>>
sage commander best waifu.
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>>158162065
That's what I figured from looking around. Unfortunately I keep either pulling decent loads with no Forte or a Forte together with garbage, but I'll keep trucking on. Thanks.
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>>158162283
I have seen some extremelly greedy and questionable plays since yesterday.

Even with aggro decks I would go for the free value play if given the chance to ensure tempo dominance, but the asians straight on ignore those.

Im not sure if it's some different mindset thing or asian magic since it works for them all the time I guess.
>>
Why the fuck didn't she evolve?
>>
It's pretty funny how the nips pronounce Cerberus
>>
This is so dumb. Dshift needs some buffs.
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>all that red bull
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What a qt.
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Why did he pick Rune again?
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>>158162679
(You)
>>
whens the next game?
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>>158162759
They only get two decks. He had already won with his other deck.
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Missed the last fight. Did he lose as Rune AGAIN?
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>no 3D asian waifu who also is a shadowverse champion

I bet she would also cosplay cerberus, luna or any of the other sluts if asked during sex
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>>158162902
>3D
Stopped reading right there.
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>>158162863
Got rushed really hard
Only drew one golem
>>
>1024 people
>Not a single person brought bloodcraft

Great game you guys have
>>
>>158160478
Re roll

What class you want to play?
>>
What stream
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>>158163390
There people here still saying bloodcraft is """""Good""""" and queen vampire and is """""""""fine""""""""""
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>>158163491

Ctrl F stream
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>>158163390
>1024
>Not a single person brought the least interesting most try hard class that only edgy preteens play

Good
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BLOOD CONFIRMED
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>Vamp
Absolute madman.
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>>158163630
BTFO
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>>158163390
Ha
>>
Nakayama, the madman.
>>
>>158163390
don't you look silly
>>
>blood
>>
>Vampire

M A D M A N
A
D
M
A
N
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>>158162902
she's gay anon
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>>158163390
>>158163408
>>158163491
>>158163542
>>158163630
>>158163778
>>158163782
>>158163786
>>158163807
>>158163835
>>158163853
>>158163872
>>158163915
>1024 people
>Not a single person brought bloodcraft
>ALL these comments shitting on Vania and Blood

AND THEN....
Literally you all look retarded because there's a blood in the top 8 in the very next stream

Shut the fuck up now.
>>
TREEHUGGERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>
kek.
>>
Nakayama decklist?
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>>158164006
>top 8
>>
>>158164006
>he thinks its top 8
who looks retarded here?
>>
You know he's a shitter because he evolved the Heavy Knight and not the superior Aesthetic Knight.
>>
Is this banner?
>>
>Play one game for a daily while they were paused
>Miss blood
What happened?
>>
I didn't realize people played Luminous Knight. Floral Fencer is so good though
>>
>>158164408
He used more skill in 6 turns than the entire champioship
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>>158164420
They don't. It's a shit card.
>>
BANNER MEMES
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>>158164408
>Centaurs
>Maids
100% banner
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Nothing pleases me more than seeing solitairefags stomped.
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>>158164331
Ascetic Knight, anon. Ascetic.
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>>158164543
anon pls
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>>158164543
No he's right.
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>>158164408
>>158164501
>summon minion with storm
>attack face
>repeat until opponent is dead
>skill XDDD

You literally didn't miss anything, all he did was summon storm minions and attack face
>>
From 128 players, he's the only blood player.
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I'm rooting for him!
>>
This guy sounds like what I imagine the beta in an NTR doujin would be like.
>>
>>158164585
>>158164592
Aesthetic mind
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>>158164420
Saw her as a 1-of in some lists.
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>>158164602
They say, appears on stream, yes.
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>>158164692
Bored AA/Masters players will usually throw some weird shit into meta decks
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>>158164598
He has 13 hp left every turn take a lot of math and skill to make difference
>>
>Zayoi-mount Nakayama
Wow that's gay.
>>
>>158164647
He's so beta it hurts but im gonna cheer for him because im a bloodfag

>>158164598
Blood is the most skillfull class in the game
>>
>rizer lost

Proof that skill in this game doesn't matter.
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>>158140143
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>>158164802
>>158164943
>get into 10 or less hp because your shitty storm minions damage you
>"take a lot of math and skill to make difference"

You literally have no choise other than race for face or die trading "for control".

You're retarded and the class is mindless aggro shit that auto loses to Elana.
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>>158165190
I see, there is a heal haven saying shit here.
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>>158164964

Has it occur to you that maybe rizer is just a scrub
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>>158146578
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>>158165890
Show all classes, faggot.
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>>158165190
The point is that if the class were functional you would have to carefully manage the cards to go in and out of vengance. Thats way more complicated than vomiting on the board
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>>158165190

>complaining about suicidal decks

you've never played suicide red or black in MTG did you?
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>>158166105
>if if if

The reality is that Blood right now is nothing but mindless aggroshit that either gets a lucky hand and spams the board with weak storm shit and wins, or gets shitted by itself.

There's no strategy.
There's no skill.
Is just play this minion, go face because you don't even have the luxury of trading and hope to win if your opponent is not Elana.

Or concede if your opponent is playing Elana,
Period.
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>>158161235
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I think left, right?
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>>158166320
There's a couple of guys that use that on the store I play, I shit on it all the time with my Abzan deck, decks like that can't handle proper removal or small healings.

Praise Siege Rhino for giving me auto wins in tournaments against shitter decks.
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>>158146578
Feels chemo man.
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>>158166726

i miss MTG had to sell all my stuff for financial reasons

really wish i kept my death & taxes deck tho, loved that thing
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>>158146578
I am a whore for achievement gold.
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>Play against a variant of Dragoncraft discard deck
>Be Dragoncraft Satan deck with extra topdeck cards.
>Both being somewhat slow decks, we play through a lot of turns with him using Dragonewt Scholar, Dragon Counsel, Golden Dragon's Den and Dracomancer's Rites to burn through his cards while having excessive drawing power and trying to deal damage with Wildfang Dragonewt's skill.
>He burns his hand to make a 13/13 Angel Crusher. His amulets make him draw a whole lot of cards.
>I destroy it by reverting it with Urd and dealing damage with some spells.
>He dies the next turn through autolose deck fatigue.
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KMR!!
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>>158166363
its aggroshit if you play bat. Everything else takes skill
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>>158167169

Now thats a FeelsBadMan
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>>158146578
Could have been worse
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>>158166448
i can't read japanese
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>>158167231
I've got no problems with Blood either way but I think you are seriously overestimating how deep vengeance is
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>You will never brick as bad as りんご
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>>158167632
not really. Im just mocking the other classes since no one plays blood and the stereotypes are true

If the class actually worked it should be really deep
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Why the fuck doesnt elana have a buff limit. Like it can only tick 3 times before its gone
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Dat heal bm
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>treehuggers
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Please don't laugh at me for being in A2
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>>158167996
why does it buff when the leader is already at full health?
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Top guy has really bad luck
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>>158168105
Have you dropped games on purpose?
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>>158168110
why does it buff health? we learned nothing from the undertaker meta?
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>>158168110
Would be useless otherwise, especially against decks like Seraph or DShift that don't have to damage you until their win condition.
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>>158168269
>this broken card is okay because of other broken cards
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>>158168195
No ;_;
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DShitters should commit sudoku.
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>>158168460
>Seraph
>Broken
>You
>Not Salty
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>>158168647
Fatal mistake not bouncing Aria when he had the chance
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why are people so fucking bitter about elana

if you're playing aggro, accept you can't win every matchup

if you're playing midrange/control, buitd a less shitty deck or stop playing like shit.

i love seeing elana on ladder, it's fucking free wins for me playing sword
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Why are the japanese laughing
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>Dshift is overpowered
>Rune is overpowered
>Why is that class allowed certain autowins?
>NERF NERF NERF

However there's not a single duel that Runecraft has ever won on this tournament and is getting shit on by absolutely everything.

Is /svg/ composed of retarded hearthstone and reddit players?
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>DShit loses again
We already know it has shitty winrate. Why do people keep clinging to it?
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>majority of dshift decks lost

Buffs when?
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Need a win please.

78279
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DS Rune BTFO
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>>158169326
Get ready to add steam players to that composition soon
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>>158169326
there was a guy complaining about fucking earth rite earlier, what do you think?
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Please join my room for my quest!

93723
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Who's the guy in the middle?
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>>158169216
>accept you can't win every matchup
It's gimmicky bullshit that loses to any deck packing a half decent amount of value, its only purpose is sniping aggro decks and even then it can die to going super face (which is less interesting than other lines that take a turn or two longer, lines which I can deploy against other decks)
I'm fine with being cucked by white paladin, themis into eventual seraph, etc. Less fine with losing to babby's first brainless midrange synergy deck
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Yes, hopefully this tournament will convince people to abandon DS so control decks can make a comeback for a while at least.
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>>158169326
You're asking this in the same general where people constantly praise Sword and claim it is a "meme" despite it having huge tournament presence right now.

People pick a deck they don't like and then beg for it to be nerfed constantly. They scream it is OP and demand it be gutted and their favorite deck be back on top. It's like this in every competitive game.

There's little wrong with Haven right now. The only class seeing pretty much no play in the tournament is Blood. Other things just need more cards, but Haven is fine where it is. It has strong plays every turn and is a versatile class.

This is what you WANT classes to be like. You don't want them to feel like shit to play and have only a single deck that is even remotely viable.

People begging for nerfs whenever something is strong is why balancing is always awful. They will gut Haven and it will be worthless again. On the flip side, they will probably overbuff Blood and make it the new Haven because fans demand extremes.
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>>158169469
Thanks bruv, some of you are alright.
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>>158143968
It seems like it might become the new hotness to put this cutie into DShift decks. I've seen her in like 3 different lists of masters on twitter since yesterday. I'm not sold on it though.
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>>158169326
Thres a variation where they use golems and snowmen should have played those

and also every time it gets matched vs either storm heaven who doesnt really care about the removal or forest which can easily outvalue the removals

Dshift always beats anything else without the other dude being able to do anything which is fucking retarded
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>>158169373
Thanks anon. You're the best
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>>158169326
I honestly don't understand how these Rune players can be so shit. I play PtP Rune and both Heaven and Forest are free wins.

It feels like these retards just copy pasted the Rune deck from the Japanese website because you need multiple decks for the tournament and they needed something last minute. So many sub optimal plays
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>>158169216
I don't know why people think Elana is a good deck. The deck relies on a single card to function, and it falls apart when you don't draw it. Without Elana, you are playing a durdle deck with no win condition.
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>>158169571
I love beating supposedly complex decks with babby's first brainless deck. It sends chuuni nerds into a their autistic rage which is hilarious,
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>>158169664
>Dshift always beats anything else without the other dude being able to do anything

That's why its winrate even against some control decks is 60% right? It does horribly against aggro and has advantage against control. On the flip side, Sword, Forest, and Haven decks all have much better matchups overall because they don't have extremes.

Bringing Dshift to a tournament is fine, but I don't get why people play it on ladder.
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>>158169571
>It's gimmicky bullshit that loses to any deck packing a half decent amount of value,
gimmicky is just a fucking buzzword, yes, it loses to value, that's the weakness of the deck and why it's fair.

>its only purpose is sniping aggro decks
there's literally nothing wrong with that.

>Less fine with losing to babby's first brainless midrange synergy deck
according to this thread literally every deck is "brainless" except muh control blood so forgive me if I think someone calling a deck brainless is fucking meaningless.
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Is angelbro OUR GUY?

>Keeps us safe from all aggro shitters
>Has a majestic golden armor
>You will never be 1 damage off lethal because of him
>Its neutral, you have no reason to not put him in your deck
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>>158169759
There are enough health cards to keep you alive up until you draw it

and 3x themis just in case
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>>158169923
Is he the rival of aesthetic knight?
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>>158169990
no way, aesthetic knight and his bro have 2 health, angelbro can't even dent our boy
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If Rune loses again I'm dropping it and picking up Dragon.
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>>158169567
Kimura, producer of the game.
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>>158170090
You can play Earth rite rune together with me. Our bus is awfully empty.
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>>158170090
Same, but stormhaven instead of dragon.
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>>158169395
I bet these D-Shift plyers are thinking why they didn't bring Earth Rite Rune. It has sufficient tools to deal with aggro and amulets. You just build a wall of conjure guardians and make Storm Haven pay for it.
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>>158170136
Is he the Ben Brode of shadowverse?
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I know this is a rerun, but what is this girl's name? I want to pet her. She's adorable when she's worried.
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>>158170237
its hafu, use google
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>>158170237
Her name Cuminv Agina.
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>>158170237
This was the first match today.
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>>158170197
>I bet these D-Shift players are thinking why they didn't bring Earth Rite Rune.
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>>158170323
A rerun of the first match today I meant to say.
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Well I just fought an interesting deck in unranked.

Shadow Olivia with Rise of the Dead. Deck also had Ceridwens.
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>Top deck queen
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>>158170237
riran
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>>158170323
>I know this is a rerun,

>I know this is a rerun,

>I know this is a rerun,

>I know this is a rerun,

YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO FUCKING READ ANON?

OR ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED

DONT FUCKING REPLY TO ME AGAIN
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>make a budget Earth Rune deck for story
>Only win against Lowen in the end when he draws like completely shit

Man, glad that nightmare is over, I suppose Rune either is bad against Dragon or just plain sucks without a budget
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>>158169923
i thought it was grill
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which one of you is Caleb-chan?
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>>158169865
>there's literally nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing objectively wrong with that, elanafags have the right to play what they want, but the question is why people are mad at it and I answered. It's a bad deck. It's the worst of the three haven decks. Queueing against it is an offensive waste of my time, which is only barely compensated for in the event that I win

>forgive me if I think someone calling a deck brainless is fucking meaningless.
If you can't see how stupid the prayer haven gameplan is you're being willfully obtuse
Control decks have to sequence their answers to open up a window to drop their haymakers. Aggro decks have to sequence their threats to count to 20. Prayer haven doesn't even have to count anything, other than confirming that their life total isn't going down. Just trickle watery shit onto the board every turn until you have elanas in play and you've accidentally assembled a board tall enough to threaten lethal.
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so is the stream over and its just re-runs?
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Reminder that you don't need to get a card before crafting it.
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So I missed a bit of the stream. Did the Bloodbro win?
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>>158171216
Still 6.5 hours to go until there's only 8 left. It's just a lot of breaks.
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>>158171426
Yes
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Lunch break.
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>>158171426
Yes
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>>158171371
duh, how fucking stupid must one be to think that?
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>>158171204
so basically you fucks are just bitter about losing to a deck you even acknowledge as fair in terms of strength because it you think you're too "smart" for it to beat you, and thus want it nerfed and decide to bitch endlessly about it every thread

you guys really are faggots
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>>158171605
>>158171623
So Blood is not hopeless after all.
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Looks like this tournament actually has losers bracket too.
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>>158171709
The big board also showed the name of a pretty famous blood player in the winners pool. Not sure if he brought a blood deck to the tournament.
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>>158171204
In other words you have no argument and are trying to justify your hatred for the deck.
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>unpack a pack of entirely animated cards
>3 of them are gold

wat da hek
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>>158171204
>There's nothing objectively wrong with that, elanafags have the right to play what they want, but the question is why people are mad at it and I answered. It's a bad deck. It's the worst of the three haven decks. Queueing against it is an offensive waste of my time, which is only barely compensated for in the event that I win
This sentence is just "waaaah waaaaaah" trying to disguise itself as a response. All you posted is that the deck is bad and you hate it.
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I 100% deserve this...
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>>158172321
>played through your whole deck without winning from the combo
how the fuck does that happen
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>>158172408
Swordcraft had too much board, so I had to use early D.Shift to give myself extra turn and clear it out.
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>>158172321
people like this are why dshift has a bad winrate
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Sometimes I draft a deck and just want to retire it after one game. Those are the runs where I also go first every game.
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>>158172609
I just dont do take two anymore and its worked wonders
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edgier than ps1 graphics up in this bitch
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how do i mute emotes? sick of facing retarded swordcraft players who play that 1/1 with storm and say >charmed >charmed >charmed >charmed
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>>158172609
I felt that way about a haven deck I drafted today, I felt like I got way too many shit cards. Wanted to retire after 1 loss.

I won the next 4 games.
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>>158173158
your best bet is probably spending the 5 seconds it takes to find the mute option ingame or just stop being such a pussy
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>>158173158
You can't mute on an individual basis, but I'm pretty sure there's an option to turn off emotes in general under the match menu.
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>>158173176
Yeah, neat. I went first four out of five games and two of them watched Sword evolve Floral Fencer on turn 4
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Can Chronicle: Runescape Legends get it's own general too?

I just wanna talk about card games
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>>158173362
i am sory for your lots.
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i think it's cool this guy with the hat managed to make it this far, must've been hard with down syndrome. you go get em little guy
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>>158173158
Go to the options and then settings, you can turn off emotes
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>queue up
>have to go first
>no one drops

gg
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Can you derank in Beginner rank?
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>>158174789

Yeah it bricks your phone/pc when you do
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>>158174789

i dont think so, you're already at the bottom of the barrel so there's nowhere to go but up
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>>158174716
Put 10 more 1 drops in your deck, win every time.
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>haven plays 3 death sentences in take 2
fuck I'm salty
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>tfw you waited 4 hours to watch a bishop mirror
just kill me
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>Drop elana
>Drop minions that auto buff themselves
>win
When are they going to make it have limited charges?
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>>158175560
So which of these do you play?
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>>158175140
> Having 3 Death Sentence in Take 2

Is that even possible? You have 2 chances to pick up 4 Neutral cards, meaning the one of his picks had 2 Executions together?
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>>158175560

o wait nevermind

lmao 3 themis
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>>158175786
Death Sentence and execution are two completely different cards buddy.
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>>158175827
kek

he had that game but no
seraph into

3 themis
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>>158175785
i like how the one deck based around healing still gets dunked on by banner sword. banner2fast
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wasnt radiant angel just better there?
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>>158176079
its gets dunked because the values are equal since you have more board pressence early and can keep buffing your dudes which means you are almost always equal in value even with elana albeit 1 good themis and you lose
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How do we fix second player's overwhelming advantage svg?
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how cancerous are I to make an alt with a full storm haven deck and play rank?
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>>158176223
>overwhelming
It's a slight advantage. Stop making it seem bigger than it is.
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>>158176206
If anything I want them to use Themis early because it means they aren't healing themselves and their own followers go away. The deck has so many Storm followers it doesn't matter much.
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>>158176223

only allow 2 evolves per player
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Dude the bottom dude is in full tilt. What the fuck was that
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When the fuck is Elf getting nerfed?
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>>158176223
3 evolve for both or add more cards with rush or fanfares that give value
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>>158176337
>their own followers go away.
You mean one turn away from popping out of their amulet shell
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>>158176309
slight to some classes,including aggro focused classes, but for some it makes a big difference.
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>>158176428
but it did get nerfed multiple times :^)
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>>158176374

You wouldn't be tilted after getting themis twice in a row after seraph?
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>>158176223
Only shitters believe going second is superior to going first.

Unless you mean arena
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>>158176470
That's taking account of everyone playing, there is a tab that only count masters playing and the gap is much smaller
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>>158176428
you still live in sept?
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>>158176428
>Glimmering Wings mana cost increased by one
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>>158176594
>Elf Child May's fanfare can hit face
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>>158176480
The problem with elf is the problem with the game. Everything is balanced in a way everything is on equal footing (except for some bullshit cards), essentially everything is centered around evolutions

The moment the value of the cards increases a tad everything breaks because normal cards end up being equivalent to evolved cards and if theres enough plenty of stuff to deal with evolutions then it becomes kinda pointless so you end up with one player having significantly weaker cards than the other.

Balancing this game seems too hard
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>>158176651
Didn't you learn anything from HS? Adding more RNG isn't the right way to balance the game.
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>>158176771
Yeah the evolve mechanic is awesome, but seems like it makes the game much more difficult to balance.
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>>158176860
At least this game isn't Shadow Era. Those fucking idiots are trying to balance 4 sets (no rotations). The game looks like shit and it's been around since 2011.
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>>158176860
They could simply revert back to the old system where both players draw just one card on the first turn. I bet the game would be more balanced then.
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>>158176796
If I learned anything from HS it's that RNG makes things fun and exciting and there can never be enough of it. Now that I think of it all of forest's ping effects should hit face.
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>>158176561
Just letting you know, I don't disagree with you and I win plenty of times going first, but the gameplay that occurs in Master's applies to very very little of /svg/.

The imbalance from first and second is pretty noticeable up to the AA table according to this site. However, I'd imagine a lot of the classes win more going second due to the sole fact that they can cuck Haven or Forest out of the ability to draw another card or evolve first, so I'd finger Elf and Bishop's gameplay as a partial culprit to this situation, since things were much more balanced in terms of first and second before DE hit.
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>>158177000
>hottest
>posts loli
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>>158177021
not him, but gameplay that "applies to svg" says that earth rite needs nerfing because making a 10/10 on turn 10 is op and seraph needs to have execute capable of destroying it.
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WHY DO THEY WEAR THE MASK(S)?
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>>158177186
Yes, so assume that gameplay that applies to the majority of /svg/ is sub A rank, much less AA and Master's.
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Heal haven vs heal haven. Fucking disgusting.
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>>158177000
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>Haven vs Haven

Great games guys
I can't wait for one haven to just themis abunch, then just seraph and win turn 9
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>>158177169
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>>158177336
it looks like their faces are merged, like the fairy is her retarded stunted siamese twin attached to her head
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>>158176860
Maybe they should rethink how it works and instead of increasing dude stats it should trigger fanfares or invent evolve effects to make it more tactical and not the centerpiece of the whole game. As things stands you can't really balance the game by introducing new bullshit cards that outvalue the current op cards to fill the gap

More importantly cards should be designed to fill certain niche not around an specific combinations

This game reminds me of dota vs Lol. In lol everything is synergistic and cookie cutter which leads to little player choices wheres in Dota everything is unique doesn't have forced synergies and serves specific niches well at least before valve killed it.
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i don't understand why heal haven is seeing so much play, it's a good deck but still the worst of the 3 'meta' archetypes
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>>158177253
their opinions don't mean shit then

we don't need C0 players debating balance changes because they decided the only reason they keep losing is because of going first/whatever deck they lost to last is op/whatever mental hoops they have to jump through.

>>158177584
because it's a good counter to storm haven, so people are bringing it even if it loses hard to other shit cause they're expecting to have to face storm.
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>>158177584
Because people have been adding Seraph to it so it beats control decks since they don't run odin
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out fucking played
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why is every player on ladder a miserable cunt, imma just play garuda haven only until something in it gets nerfed suck my dick
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If it wasn't for the third evolve point, going first would be fucking snowballing out of control.

Only way to balance evolve point is to hand 2 cards draw to first player. However, it's only increasing more problems. Imagine turn5 giving swordcuck extra cards and tools that they desperately need.
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>>158177658
the only control that a heal haven deck with seraph would beat is other heal havens

dimension shifting yourself against any other control deck that actually have proactive plays and then actually having to wait a few turns because you don't have enough countdowns is not as good as you think.
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>>158177779
sounds like you're the miserable cunt m8y
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>>158177584
They're trying to counter Storm Haven. Some of them put in Seraph to counter other Heal Haven's and to make the deck harder to read.
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>>158177847
Heal havens have draws up the ass.
Getting your pieces isn't that hard
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>>158177643
>their opinions don't mean shit then
Nothing wrong here.

These are the winrate at AA though, and the gap between first and second gets bigger as you go down, so you can't deny it is better for some classes, though i'm not saying it is unwinnable if you go first like some people are saying.
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>>158177779
>why are people in ranked trying to win
>why dont they just go control blood and let me get easy wins
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>>158177925
they have okay draws but it's really not enough to pull seraph + 2 countdown reduces consistently when the most they're going to run is a couple of hallowed dogmas. not to mention they usually can't hold onto it and actually need to use it to not fall behind earlier on.

combine these two things and it's really only good against other heal havens. something like Control Sword or even Control Blood will just smash your face in before you can wait out the 3 or 4 turns before it goes off because they actually can deal damage unlike heal haven.

it's a worthwhile tech in the tournament because they're expecting to see other heal havens because it counters storm so they're trying to get the edge on enemy heal havens by putting in seraph.
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>>158177496
Whos the LoL and whos the Dota in this case?
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>>158178008
>why are sword players clearly spamming emotes as they play way too many cards for lethal because they curvestoned me
>why is every piece of shit dragon or shadow taking 90 second turns as soon as they lose the board
>why is everyone in this general so defensive over people behaving like fucking apes.
These are the questions you meant to ask you jackass
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>>158178329
SV is LoL
HS is Dota
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>>158178434
>why can't I stop this period blood flowing from my vagina
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>>158164626
He's doing it!
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Vampire bro is in B group finals
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>no greeting back
what a fucking asshole
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Is ladder just fucking DS, Haven, and Forest shit? I've only ever fucking seen them
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I hope this bloodplayer loses. If he keeps winning cygames will probably nerf blood.
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Blood bro is winning!
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So if I'm a dignified young man who only plays the most patrician of decks available, what do I play?
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>>158178521
Wouldn't SV be DoTA2, where everything is broken that everything is balanced?
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>>158178676
Yeah
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>>158178682
you mean, if he keeps winning bloodfags won't have an excuse to meme about it anymore.
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>>158178787
Oh he misplayed and lost 1 damage. Hope that doesn't come back to bite him
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>>158178823
Aggro Bat
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>>158178846
>>158178682
What does his deck look like? Aggro Blood?

>>158178832
In that case, both SV and HS have their own Dota 2 similarities in that department
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>>158178823
Stormhaven, PTP elf
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>>158178868
HE WON. KIRAKIRA FOR THE WIN
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HE DID IT THAT MADMAN. He beat cancerous Heal Haven
>>158178930
Yes aggro blood with tons of direct damage
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>Comparing card games and mobas

Huh?
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>>158178995
Man, I was taking my tempo elf deck for a run in ranked because I was 1 win away from a quest

I ended up facing an aggro blood and I was sitting at 2 health by the end of the game when I managed to actually turn it around and pull off both Crystalia Tias

All the while I kept hoping he doesnt have 2 burn damage to just finish me off, argh
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am i retarded? did he forget to attack with the tiger????
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Dance of Death was a mistake, I think more than anything this card is responsible for the fucked up state of the game. The card needs an emergency removal and everything else would work out.
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mememan won
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Eat shit cancer Haven!
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man I'm at the fucking point where I just dc right away if I see a fucking havencraft player. fuck this shit, fuck multiple Olivia, holy shit.
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>>158179210
That's not Elana.
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Q T K N I G H T

M V P
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>>158179210
hi roro
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what the fuck kinda format are they playing? just best of 3?
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かわいい~
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>nip spamming kawaii
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>>158179280
2 deck conquest
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MEMEMAN'S VOICE IS KAWAII
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>>158179280
Bo3 double elimination. The final 8 player tournament will have Bo5.
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>>158179210
But this game isn't fucked up.

I'm convinced you guys wouldn't be happy with anything. We are seeing all the classes being played and getting wins.

Ladder will always be skewed because people are sheep and also will flock to inexpensive decks in general.
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>>158179218
>I'm so high on Blood right now.jpg
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>>158179402
Yet, theres nothing really cheap about Tempo Elf, PtP Elf, DShift Rune and Storm Haven though

Well, I suppose DShift Rune and Storm Haven are comparatively cheaper
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>>158179332
memebro was so excited he was about to cry
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kawaii boy is going to single handily propel luminous knight's rating
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>>158179473
dshift is really not that expensive, you don't NEED merlins, there's budget replacements.

storm haven is cheap as fuck, moon bunny is the only legendary and she's anything but necessary.
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How is Dora and Koichi faring?
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So far the finals decks:
Two aggro sword, 1 aggro blood, and 1 Heal/Seraph Haven
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>>158179721
Blood sucks, they said!
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>>158179765
Well, they do suck, in a literal manner

Do ho ho
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>>158179765
Aggro in general seems to be doing pretty well this tourney, they manage to prey on the people who brought DShift and Heal Haven, since actual control decks that would have fared well against them presumably got bullied out early on.
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>>158179828
Yea, my dick.
>>
>>158179596
Koichi got bodied on stream. Don't know about Dora.
>>
Well, if aggro blood actually does quite well even in tourney, is it now a valid idea to make an Aggro Blood deck once all the tourney decklists are out?
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>>158180065
Yes
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>>158179596
Dora is eliminated, Koichi is still in losers bracket I guess.
>>
>>158180065
It's been a decent Aggro deck since even before the tournament. It's just that other Aggro decks are better.
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>>158180065
it was always a valid idea anon
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>>158180094
>>158180180
>>158180192
I suppose I'll go wait till the decklists are out, I am interested in what kind of changes this Blood player made to stand up against everything and come out on top
>>
>>158180316
I think he's forgo going toe to toe using followers and just drop shitloads of burn cards.
>>
I got to D1. Would it still be a waste of time to reroll? Playing forest without Ancient Elf is kind of scary.
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>>158180471
This is sounding like one of those aggro freeze mage thing that was a thing recently in HS

>>158180489
If anything its never too late to reroll, you can easily climb back up to D1 again anyway
>>
>>158180562
Well considering the current meta, burning is the most viable choice when your class lack muscles.
>>
>Mistakenly blow 600 rupies on the standard gasha instead of DE
>1 Dragon Roost and Animated Skullfane for my troubles
Eh
>>
Fuck you Havencraft. I will rope and dc every single one of you.
>>
>>158180489
>tfw 0 Ancient Elf or Roaches or Tias or Lizas

My Forest deck is an ineffective, cobbled-together chimeric monstrosity with 2 Altered Fate, 1 PTP, 2 Cynthias, and a Rose Queen. 1 Elder Treant is subbing for Tia.

I'm ranking up with this thing in C1 because I know I won't be able to higher up. Send help.
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Just started like 2 weeks ago, do I get to play against real decks now or is that at A? Getting tired of playing healslut because every single deck at C is aggro.
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rizer posted the decks he used at the tournament

He got eliminated by a Blood player
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>>158181983
You'll probably just see more Storm Haven but A rank is when more people have a better understanding of how to play.
>>
>>158182020
Not a Rune player so I'm not very knowledgable, but it doesn't seem like he got things to defend himself from aggros when solitaring.
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>>158182020
>>
>>158182020
That's a really weird dshift build.
>>
>>158182020
>>158182128
Why do we care about decks of a loser?
>>
>>158182220

Yeah seriously, he got eliminated for a reason, who cares what he played
>>
>>158182220
I guess because he's an MtG pro. He just recently came back to Japan from the pro tour or something.
>>
>>158182020
You know, I suppose directly burning a DShift player works just as well when you consider Rune doesnt really have heals anyway and when you go for direct burn that means the DShift player cannot use the spells that need to target a follower
>>
where is based civila?
>>
>>158182220
>>158182324
it's not like the better player always wins, so its not any less helpful than the deck of someone who won, ya'll will still lose even with the champion's netdeck anyways
>>
>>158182020
>2x Trail of Light
>3x Levi (you won't have enough evo points with him and Merlin)
>only 2 Conjure Golem

What the fuck is that list? It doesn't even look like he's teching against a specific matchup, it's just weird.
>>
>>158182542
unsure about trail of light, but Levi is helpful against decks that pack more board presence, not sure if that's enough for 3 of him but he's helpful if you don't draw Merlin and can 3 for 1 most of the time counting his spell
>>
>>158182220
He basically created the ptp deck, starting the cancer that persists even today.
>>
>>158182789
He was the guy who did it?

Karmic justice!
>>
>>158182736
I know Levi is good, but 3 is too many. Every DShift list I've seen from good players run 0-2.

You only have 2 evo points going first and with 6 are likely going to draw 3 or more Merlin/Levi over the course of a game, making them bricks.
>>
I just roll an animated Vania. I've been hearing about bat decks, are they expensive to make? I don't have the castle nor the vampire queen but i got 3 vampire temptress and 1 Bloody mary
>>
>>158183081
The only expensive parts of an Aggro Blood would be the Bat Castles, Vampys and the Queen Vampires

Even then, its still comparatively cheap when compared to like Tempo Elf deck
>>
>>158182917
I don't disagree, we'll have to see if more tournament players release their lists, I've been seeing a lot of Levi during the tournament, so maybe he's not the only one with three, and the decision for triplets may just be for consistency.
>>
>>158167231
Everything else is shit tier
>>
>>158183081
Perfect, all you need is 2 more Vanias and 3 Vampiric Fortresses and you're good to go.

Queen Vampire is unnecessary in aggro.
>>
>>158183138
Aggro blood does not run Queen Vampire. Run imp lancers instead
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>you'll never play against cerb
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>>158183342
Cute doggo

Get that hag away from her.
>>
>>158183335
That's funny

http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/apple12825-type-agrovampire/

I was basing it off this deck and it runs them
>>
>>158176309
>Draws an extra card
>Has en extra evo point
>Gets to evo a turn earlier than the first player

I would say the advantage is more than "slight"
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Really makes you wonder
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>>158183525
before DE hit, they needed that extra card on top of their evo advantages, win rates were lopsided enough that Cygames decided that.

though now it's different so I wonder how they will deal with it
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>blood player
>running Queen of Memes
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>>158183921
She's not a meme!
>>
Is this guy just running Control with a castle or two in his deck?
>>
>>158184202
bat control
>>
>>158184202
3
>>
>>158184202
It's Aggro. Queen Vampire is good in any deck despite what people here say. He's using Dire Bond to combo with Bloody Mary.
>>
>unavoidable 6 damage to the face
>m-muh tier 2
>every blood deck has raped face on stream

Fucking nerf blood already.
>>
This girl is creeping me out.
>>
>>158184307
it's an aggro deck with a longer game plan than most I guess, what with the alucard, imp lancer, queen vamp, and dire bond.

it worked out though so I guess that's what counts
>>
>>158184372
>6 dmg to face requires two cards and turn 8 minimum
>You can achieve the save via 2 demonic strikes which is also two cards and turn 8 minimum
>It's also unavoidable
Fucking nerf neutral already.
>>
>>158173541
Did Linza ever become playable after the BKT nerf? I liked that game but quit specifically because of that bullshit legendary.
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>>158184372
You can't nerf something so underpowered.
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>>158184751
Grief linza was the best deck in the meta during its prime.

Then it got nerfed into uselessness leaving only big weapon linza left. And EVERYONE runs emissary or bar fight. You can still pull bs wins on chapter two or 3, but the deck is extremely draw dependent.
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>>158184784
i love vampyposters
>>
Why are girls so good at this game?
>>
>breeze through beginner ranks
>immediately get rekt once I hit D0
Guess I gotta get good. Pray for me, /svg/.
>>
>>158185260
They didn't play with their dick.
>>
>>158185267
I know that feel. I've been stuck at D0 for about a month now.
>>
I will make a new thread
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>>158185267
>>158185360
ishygasadr
>>
>>158185260
uh....
>>
>>158185360
Kill yourself
>>
>>158185404
>>158185404
>>158185404
>>158185404
New thread
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>Rarely see Earth Rune decks
>Make Face Dragon deck
>Always see Earth Rune decks
Fucking hell.
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