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Top deck edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone. The first expansion pack, "Darkness Evolved", launched on September 30th.

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Previous Thread: >>158031273
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We esports now
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Watch the tournament stream here: https://www.openrec.tv/live/k4h4OGnvqAe
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Shadowverse LAN Tournament Stream
RAGE vol.3 Shadowverse Day 1(1024名→128名)
https://www.openrec.tv/live/k4h4OGnvqAe
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Dragon!!
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Time for some face dragon.
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dragon pogchamp
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>>158086369

Face dragon
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>Face Dragon vs. Midrange Royal

I've never won against Face Dragon using Royal before. This matchup is awful.
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I've come to the conclusion haven is actually a strong pick in take 2 simply because every other faggot runs sword or shadow.

I also think sword counters dragon despite both being top picks. But I feel like dragon might be better against haven? Rune is IMO the only weak pick in take 2 overall, blood and forest are both fine but should draft with a game plan in mind.

>t. take 2 fag
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>>158086432
and he didn't open whole souled swing, he's pretty toast if he has a way around Aurelia
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It's already over,
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It's over, the nigga is gonna draw a 5 point Forte
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What's better than one Vania? 2 Vania burning through their Wards.
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>Daruku Doragoon Forute!
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Why do idiots always shove their ward into stuff when they're facing face decks? That's the stupidest thing to do.
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Why does he wear the mask?
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>>158086690
They want to die to Siegfried
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>>158086690
He had to know there was a Forte when Dragon played Emissary.
He really fucked himself over.
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>>158086729
He's probably sick?
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>>158086592
if you use night castle with full board will the 2 bat counts for vania?
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>>158086690
>>158086790
He would've just hit with the goblin anyways?
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>he still traded aurelia into the goblin even after seeing the dragon emissary
He might've had a chance with the avida and general.
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>>158086685
>Daruku
If you're going to make fun of them, at least do it right. You're completely off there that it's sad.
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>>158086832
He could've taken out the Goblin with the evolved Fencer. Either way it was over since there was no way he could come back from that.
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>>158086832
He had a 4/2 he could have hit the Goblin with instead.
The evolve was the right decision, the attack was not.
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>>158086832
he could have killed it with goblin to make Aurelia trade into Forte and Trinity
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>>158086729
smog
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>>158086807
I think it doesn't. I already won by that time. 1 Precious Bloodfang sap off 6 HP when there is 2 Vania on the board.
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Lemme beat you in a private match please
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This fucking hand
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Just sword things I guess
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Why do these midrange sword tournament decks play Vanguard?

Am I missing something about the meta?
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>>158087053
>even the commentators are laughing
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>>158087073
Forest.
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>>158087073
quickblader gets memed by may, so vanguard is better for keeping forest's board clear early on
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look at how depressed the other sword guy looks.
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>>158087203
He tried to fight cancer with cancer.
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>>158087021
Thanks, mang
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>>158087125
>>158087161
Oh, that makes sense.

Is Pompous Princess still standard as well?
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Does anyone have the link to the stream?
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>>158087519
Kill yourself.
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>>158087519

Read the 40 reply thread
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>>158087519
Yes.
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>>158087586
>>158087563
>>158087560
Sorry anons, I noticed it as soon as I posted
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Why do they use the evo points so early?
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Real men play Blood.
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>>158086729

cause no one care who he was until he put on the mask.
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>>158087782
To gain tempo, nigger. Sword is full aggro, Forest just wants to survive until it can play roach combo or PtP.
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>>158087806
What do real women play
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>>158087782
That really catch my attention, they are careless as fuck with them.
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>Ptp forestcraft player
LETS GO KICK THAT SWORD PLAYER'S ASS
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>>158087782
they want to push an advantage early on, which snowballs against either of them given their decks aren't very good at playing from behind, which is when their evolves are too late.
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>>158087930
Haven, like a slut.
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GET FUCKING REKT PTPFAGGOT
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PTP

B T F O
T
F
O
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>>158088053
Forestfag BTFO
Blood in tournament when?
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>>158087971
>>158087896

It's still really early in my opinion. You just force the other guy to use his evo. Some evos were pointless on previous matches,
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Cynthi-what?
Sage Commander is still top 6 drop.
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>tfw you BTFO PtP
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SAGE
A
G
E COMMANDER
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This shit i so fucking laggy. Why can they just use twitch? Fucking nips.
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>>158088397
Completely fine on my end. The entire stream has been smooth.
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>>158088397
You can make it not lag by using livestreamer/streamlink.
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>ptp deck
>draw all 3 ptp
>didn't draw a single altered fate

He got fucked by his shit luck.
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>next match is 30 minutes from now

Why is this stream so awful?
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ten was so shit. Kept focusing on removal when he had the better board and life lead. Literally let his opponent catch up.
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>>158088474
Just to show how strong the current ptp deck is. He always won even holding 3 dead cards in his hand.
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>30 minute downtime between each game that lasts like 5 minutes
Why
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>>158088558
...he lost, anon.
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>>158088474
>AND the sword player top decks a sage commander

Its not fair
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>>158088638
Sorry, I meant to say almost instead of always
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>>158088259
Not him, but in the sword and forest matchup you've gotta keep your opponent's board clear, and forcing an opponent to evolve is not useless either.
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i'm playing normal midrange elf, is ptp a lot better?
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>>158089326
Depends bit on the matchups, but generally midrange has better winrate in the current meta.
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>>158088053
>Cynthia
>Roach
>Swing roach into ward
>Trades fairy for fencer and plays one new fairy
or
>hits face and returns fairy to hand

I'd say he still has a huge advantage but I'm not watching the stream.
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>>158089326
Normal midrange is more stable and usually has no particular bad matchups while PTP will beat most control decks but is super reliant on drawing the right cards. Lot of players run a sort of hybrid of both just so the tempo build has a win condition against heavy control decks like Alex sword.
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Rest in memes.
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>>158089464
He did the first IIRC. But he still lost. 3 PTPs and bad draws really hurt him.
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>>158089464
He did have the advantage, but the sword drew another ward which saved him.
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Next match soon.
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Havenfag please lose you cancerous faggot.
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PTP please lose you cancerous faggot.
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ptp rears its ugly head again
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heavyweight cancer matchup
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Ptp you better not let me down again
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Please assist.
22744
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That seemed like a misplay by Haven guy, but he was kind of boned either way.
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homeboy wins if he draws fairy beast
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ancient elf is fucking bullshit
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>>158090828
Ancient Orc when
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Havens are the only classes that ever BM. They know they're faggots.
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>>158090828
It should be 2/2.
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>>158090990
Elana Haven's BM rate is like 70%
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Elf is fine. Haven made some big mistakes and got outplayed.
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>ptp and ds player
Let's go SAAABAAA
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Match scheduling aside, this seems like a good tournament.
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Could I get some advice on this forestcraft deck I threw together? I plan on adding in a third anceint elf and some tias once I get the vials.

I also have ptp stuff but I wanted to try to make a variant without it
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is swordcraft the cancer faggot class in arena?
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>>158091242
Didn't face a single sword in my last arena run.
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>>158091242
There's multiple good Arena classes, but Sword takes the least skill to draft and play.
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>Storm Haven getting bullied
that was a good match
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>>158091238
>Elf Guard, Woodkin, Noble Fairy
No.

>Fairy Princess without PTP or Rose Queen
Why.

Put in some Blessed Fairy Dancers.
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Havenfag is salty as fuck
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>>158091238
I dunno what Noble fairy, Fairy Princess, and Elf guard are doin for you, obviously maybe they're just budget picks but they aren't proper midrange threats. Stick with budgety stuff like I dunno, elder treant, but mostly just get some cynthias and of course fill out your collection of ancient elves and tia's when you can
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>storm haven losing to ptp forest and ds rune
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Is DShift Rune the highest skill class?
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It would be nice to see some necro, but it probably won't happen.
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HAVEN V FOREST

WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED?
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TOP DUDE IS HIGH HIGH HIGH
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guy up top is rocking out
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What the fuck is ずヌしん doing?
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>>158091467
>>158091514
Thanks anons, out of curiosity whats wrong with elf guard? I always liked it if you could play two faeries out on turn 4 with the bonus.

Is its effect just not good enough considering you need to play it on turn 4 minimum to get it?
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>>158091238
put 2 blessed fairy , fairy bringer for more roach damage, cynthia toss out elf guard, noble fairy woodkin
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>>158091238
If you want face fairies you're going to need some more tempo cards. I'd probably replace Elf Guard with Metallurgists at the very least. Noble Fairy isn't a face card, I'd cut her and put in an additional source of damage like Cynthia/Wind God/Mana Elk.
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is top nip talking to someone? isn't that illegal?
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>>158091918
He's in his own happy little place.
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>Storm haven getting outfaced by a PTP forest
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>>158091238
>>158091959
Oh, and the 2/1 draw 1 will probably serve your style of deck better than Glimmering Wings will.
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Garuda Haven fucked again
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>>158092147

> cancer beating cancer

?
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>>158092086
That's just how good forest is.
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>>158092147
>that initial hand

Looks like Storm Haven is winning this one.
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>>158091936
unlike a lot of other "play two card effects" elf guard doesnt pay for itself, you have to pay 3 cards and, unless your opponent is completely face based and wont fight you for board you only get +1/+1. its a pretty big card disadvantage compared to other cards you could be playing, but obviously those other cards are more expensive dustwise, blessed fairy dancer is a good replacement until you get the money together to have a bunch of the more expensive threats
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Fuck this card. Am I just unlucky or is this shit broken in arena? Just watched myself take 4 hits from this thing and I couldn't do shit about it.
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>>158092576
>fuck forte
I wish man, I wish.
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>>158092697
You can if they play her before overflow
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>guy's name is i am stupid
kek
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>>158092734
I wish to overflow forte if you know what I mean.
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Oh my goodness that guy's name
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kek
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They're just watching recorded matches right?
Or are they watching the matches live?
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>4 pp shadowcraft amulet.
>When you summon a lich: Necromancy (5) summon a skeleton and zombie.

y/y?
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>dragon
>not forte
I fucking hope this faggot loses.

Also
>dingdong in forest
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>>158092976
Dingdong is a standard hoice in PtP forest.
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>>158092976
>He doesn't dingdong every deck
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>>158092972
How is that ever usable if there's only like 4 cards that summons a lich? Not to mention it's overcosted as fuck.
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Dragonbro's hand is just not cutting it.
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>>158092972
>another pile of vials
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>>158092972
I have no fucking clue what sort of train of thought lead you to believe such a card would be usable in the slightest.
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>2016
>bringing dragon to a tournament
This guy lived up to his nickname.
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>>158092972
Maybe
>Whenever you use Necromancy, summon a zombie

Would help shadow generation, establish board presence that would be wasteful to banish, and have mild synergy with Death's Breath.
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>>158093206
His other deck is blood.
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>>158093206
The random Face Dragon guy from before beat ten, who is a name I recall hearing before.
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roach are your best friend
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>>158092972
>4 pp shadowcraft amulet.
>Necromancy (1) autoconcede
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>>158093332
Damn, I actually believed you.
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That was a lot closer than it ought have been given the draw that the elf player had.
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>Going first
>Otohime into sage

This is over
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>>158093425
He is playing banner meme instead
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>bringing out banner memes in a tournament full of elves
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>>158093539
He lost to elf on purpose to bring out his banner deck. 5d chess.
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Just unpacked a Lord Atomy that I dusted so now I have 2.5k vials

I already have a complete Tempo Elf deck but need decks for other classes, what are good archetypes that are cheap yet effective? Well, not budget versions per se but still comparatively cheap yet actually meta
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I find myself rooting for iamstupid3, then he use Sword.
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Our stupid friend goes down in flames, but he has my full respect for memeing it up in a national tournament.
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>not destroying that floral fencer

It's like he wanted to lose. Probably would've lost anyway though.
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>>158093581
Storm and Solitaire are meta and cheap but boring to play. You could try banner memes but I'm not sure how enjoyable it is.
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Bannermemes
Face Dragon memes

Memed too hard.
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>>158093581
Banner Sword, DS Rune and heal Haven are cheap.
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>>158093803
ds rune is not cheap
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>Last match for 5-0
>Always a step behind but manage to stall for Satan
>Any card wins me the game except the 13/13
>Draw the 13/13
Four 4-1s today, how depressing
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>>158092976
where can i watch this
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What a fucking champion Gilgamesh is in Arena.

The only time he appeared in my 5-0 one was when I topdecked him once with the opponent at 3 life and next turn lethal on the board. I'd literally forgotten I drafted him and thought I had no Storms.
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>>158093803
>>158093768
I probably think I shouldnt join the cancer brigade but then it seems maybe theres no avoiding it is there?
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>>158093878
https://www.openrec.tv/live/k4h4OGnvqAe
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>>158093964
You have a choice of blood or shadow. Otherwise you are auto-cancer.
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I want to fuck Nightmare!
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>>158093581
Bannermemes, storm Haven, heal Haven, face Dragon, and DShift are probably the cheapest metadecks. Bataggro as well if that even qualifies as meta.

>>158093857
The skeleton versions use 2 Merlin and 3 Shifts and that's it. A lot of decks have swapped out Fire Chains for Angelic Barrage, and Levi is optional.
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When I see the number of each class played in tourneys, I wonder if Elf is always the highest % because they are cute or if its because they are purely the most consistently powerful, or both

>>158094023
How is Dragon cancer anyway
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I will protect Otohime!
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its over?
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>>158094163
That ass is meant to be ravaged.
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>>158094163
I will impregnate Otohime!
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>>158094189
No, they're taking a short break before the next match.
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>>158094220
>>158094357
Sorry anons, only Otohime's Bodyguards are allowed to touch her
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Civila playing next
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Civila senpai
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Why don't all aggro decks run a single Satan?

Your welcome for shaping the meta, I'll take my check please
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Right guy looks like someone from a NTR doujin.
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>>158094678
and left one looks like the guy getting cucked
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>>158094357
You don't impregnate otohime anon. She creates a rocky nest and deposits her eggs after which a male ejaculates his semen all over them.
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>>158094640
Too slow and if you ever reach turn 10 when the other guy is not dead yet, you are likely fucked
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Is that Haven actually running Beastly Vow? Why?
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What's the format they play in that tournament?
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LUNA!!!
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>Shadow

Here we go, Luna~!
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Based civila brought shadow.
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>playing shadow

I hope this retard loses.
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>>158094772
I'll do that then!
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FAIRY CHAMPION
NEW CARD PogChamp NAXX IS OUT PogChamp
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>>158094640
>t11 card
>aggro
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This man did the impossible.
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>>158095267
It's a single card that gives you an entirely new win condition against decks that stop your aggression.
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RUNA STRONK
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>>158095386
Ome that's two slow for the current speed of play.
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>>158095090
(you)
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>>158094760
When you get cucked but still win
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Civila did it for her.

What was up with that Fairy Champion though.
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Luna wins

Post Luna
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>Topdeck Demonic Strike

L U N A
U
N
A
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>>158095467
Would've won either way.
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>>158095467
He had lethal before the draw
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>>158095386
People started doing that a little while before DE. Even if Haven stalled you out you could still beat them by drawing your Satan first. I don't think it would work very well these days
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>>158095386
Even control decks find Satan too slow nowadays and you think an aggro deck would use it? It's gonna be a fucking brick the whole game because you lose by 10.

And even if you survive till 10, keep in mind dropping Satan is a huge risk in itself - you pay your entire turn to drop a vanilla 6/6 that does nothing. Then on your next turn you're praying you don't get Astaroth's Reckoning or Servant of Darkness cause they also do fucking nothing.

If you think it's a great idea, try it out, but you'll see how bad of an idea it is.
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>>158095386
>stopped your aggression
Then youre already lose.
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Civila really likes the 2/3 drop cards that have effects on any evolve.

And seeing him use them, they work pretty amazingly.
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>>158095467
He didn't even need the topdeck. He can cerb+coco/mimi+demon strike for lethal.
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Is blood the only class we haven't seen yet?
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>>158095528
Why is Erika so cute?
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>dat redbull promo
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>>158095590
>11 mana lethal
Nice
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>>158095597
Only those with balls play Blood.
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>>158095673
4+5+1

He needed only one of the Cerb spells for exact lethal.
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>>158095642
I want to make her and princess's yuri baby!
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>>158095673
He only needed 1 of Cerberus's cards.
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>>158095673
He could use either Coco or Mimi, he didn't need both
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>>158095526
2/3 by itself is actually pretty strong since if it's early in the game they'll most likely have to use an evolve point to defeat it. They'll aim for that card a lot too because of the effect too.
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Shadowverse animu when?
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>>158095673
It's Coco/Mimi not Coco+Mimi you dumbfuck.
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>>158095768
I meant 2 drop or 3 drop, since he used banneret the first game too, but the stats also help for sure.
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Is Itazan still alive? Fuudo is out already.
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>>158095872
Banneret carries me half the time when I pick it in Arena. It's hilarious how fast it can snowball if they can't answer it immediately.
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>>158095928
Itazan is in group 7 or 8.
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>>158095928
Is that actual Fuudo, or just some other Jap using the name Fuudo
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>>158095928
>Fuudo lost his first match

The last hope of the Atomy meme doing anything is gone.
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>>158096017
Actual Fuudo and Itazan. Both are master after all
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>>158096017
Actual fuudo.
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>>158096017
It's him.
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>>158096046
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I didn't expect this match up to be honest.
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What should I use in place of Tia and Ancient Elf in purgatory forest? I don't have either of them, and I probably won't be able to craft them anytime soon.
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41400
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>>158096264
You can't properly play forest without a Tia to bounce up and down and get off.
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>>158096264
Not making a forest deck
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>>158096291
Can we wintrade ? I need a win too
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>>158096264
There aren't any replacements because Forest doesn't have any other strong wards for early/mid game.
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>>158096367
Sure
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There really needs to be some basic banish amulet card for each class.

This match up is literally "You don't have odin, good game"
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>>158096291
I always thought she just had a giant knife for the longest time until I played her story
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>>158096531
fuck that, just win faster. seraph is already turn 8 do nothing
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>>158096264
You can have a meh substitute in Verdant Steward, since it generates 3 shadows in one card for PTP.
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>>158096645
Her navel looks unnatural.
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mou ichido
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>>158096653
It's turn 8 do nothing, turn 9 win the game.
There are so many cards haven has to countdown cards.

In fact, classes have cards to destroy amulets, except they are useless because they trigger lastword.
In fact, they should change Seraphs effect to a normal effect rather than a last word, and the effect is triggered by the countdown.
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>>158096719
The game would be instantly balanced if they just removed last word from haven amulets, and made their effects trigger only when the amulet kills itself.
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>>158096531
You want to nerf an already tier 3 deck?

if you're worried about uncounterable combos, look at dshift, at least odin exists for seraph.
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>>158096719
You're the same guy saying everyone should use Satan right?

You seem a bit slow.
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>>158096703
>her.

hate to break it to ya bud... but thats a guy.
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>>158096889
I don't think all Haven's amulets should work like that, Seraph is just a special case because its ability is literally a win condition.
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>>158096719
what meta deck does not apply enough pressure to win by turn 8, and even if it doesn't, gives haven free reign to drop Seraph?

seraph should win against slow decks, and decks that last long enough to that point already run odin just in case.
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>>158096918
Dude I hate Dshift too.
It's decks like these that just encourages everyone to go aggro since other decks have horribly skewed win rates against them. Thus making aggro decks more consistent.
>>158096919
I'm not that guy
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>>158097091
If you make Seraph die to Execute the deck is literally worthless because it costs very little to include Execute, even if it's slightly subpar compared to other follower-specific removal.

If you're playing a control deck and you're scared of Seraph, put Odin in your deck.
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>>158097091
you cannot seriously think seraph is on D Shift's level of oppressing control decks
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I'm in trials to reach rank B1 atm
how different is rank B compared to C1-C3?
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>>158097234
It's not on the same level at all.
It doesn't mean I can't think it's a little dumb
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Time for another private match quest, if anyone could concede.

Match ID: 55719
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>>158097281
How is it any dumber than another control deck grinding you out? If you can't finish off Heal haven or control sword as an aggressive deck by 9 you're absolutely screwed when Heal Haven stops dropping Lucifers and Curates after wiping your board with Themis or Sword starts dropping Frontguards and Olivia you're as good as done for too.
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>>158097318

Much appreciated, Roadagain.
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Guys, should I dust my animated Beast Dominator or Vampire Queen? I don't play Bloodcraft and I need some gold staples for Shadowcraft.

Worth keeping them?
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>>158097432
Why are you talking about aggro decks vs these decks?
Have you read my posts?
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>You lived long enough to see this guy fall of the meta

Why live?
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out fucking played
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>>158097505
Because we already explained to you countless times that you simply put Odin in your deck if you're scared of them as Control.

What if you don't want to put Odin? Well you're going to have to accept that you can't win every single matchup. That's how card games work.
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>>158097490
beast dom is an easy dust, I can't think of any reason to have that card this expansion, so maybe in the years to come she may make some list but I wouldnt feel bad about dusting her
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>>158097468
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>>158097515
To see dense MCs tumble into girls' boobs and panties.
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>>158097490
Keep Queen. Dust Dominator.
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>>158097550
I feel like you have reading problems
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>>158097490
Vampire Queen is great, ignore the memes. But if you have 0 desire to play blood, go ahead and vial her.

Beast Dominator just a slightly overstatted vanilla follower, if you don't care about being a collector, vial her.
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steam
version
when
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>>158097607
no, I get what you want. You want to kill Seraph because it counters your favorite deck, because making Seraph vulnerable to effects like execute would literally kill the deck for good.
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>>158097740
In four days, fucking retard.
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>>158097748
No, I think it's dumb that for any match against Seraph, where you aren't aggro. If you don't have an the incredibly slow and clunky card Odin, who is pretty much useless against every other match up you lose.
Here is my first post dumbass. >>158096531
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>>158097796
rude
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>>158097843
smd
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>>158097875
rude
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>>158097796
Why do you spoon feed them then?
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>>158097823
so you basically want a card that can remove Seraph while being effective against other archetypes?

so yes, that's basically what i said, you want to kill the deck for good. That is literally no different than making Execute capable of removing Seraph. Odin is already okay against other control decks, so if you made something less niche than him capable of destroying seraph, you'd probably just drop that card in any control deck without a second thought.

again, you want to kill the deck off.
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>>158097823
>slow and clunky card deals with a slow and clunky card
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>>158098052
>Win condition vs not a win condition

Oh cool, good example. The game is already over because Zayin doesn't have Odin.

Good game guys.
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Remember when we used to flatpost instead of bitching about the meta?
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>>158098095
he had 6 fucking hp and no board, he lost by every possible metric, having some magic fuckin 0 mana card that eats seraph and brings him to orgasm wouldn't have done anything, if you think your pet deck deserves to win every matchup go play midrange shaman
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>>158098121
Real flat....
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>>158098121
Erinyes leader fucking when
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>>158098121
seriously, what the fuck happened to the thread, it's all people fucking whining about literally every deck. I've even grown tired of people bitching about sprint haven even if that one is actually deserved.
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>>158098248
hearthfags moved over
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>>158098198
I'm already playing Havenverse
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This banner meme deck looks a little shaky.
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>>158097560
>>158097587
>>158097651
Thanks guys. Got my 2 Foul Tempests and a Mordecai.
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>>158098351
You are shaky
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>>158098248
if this game gets a serious push when the Steam comes out expect this stuff to get a lot worse, new/poor players refusing to build a collection and asking for budget replacements for every single card in the netdeck lists, constant ladder salt translating into shitposting, and, most tragic of all, the bullying of our beloved waifuposters into hiding.
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>>158098351
Best memes
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-HbC.5-HbC.625kC.625kC.625kC.625kg.625kg.625kg.625lc.625lc.625lc.628AI.628AI.5-HbM.5-HbM.625lI.625lI.625lI.5-HbW.5-HbW.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-KGw.5-KGw.5-KGw.65wcO.65wcO.65wcO.5-HbC.5-HbM.65yJS.65yJS.65yJS.65vtg.65vtg.628AI
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I want a red bull
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>>158098248
Everyone is just complaining about Haven mostly. This expansion was incredibly generous to Havencraft
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>>158098491
>the bullying of our beloved waifuposters into hiding
Never

>>158098564
People complain about whatever beats them
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>>158098626
Haven does make up most of what you fight when you reach upper ranks
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>>158098649
When steam newbies come in I expect that the bitching will get much more varied around here due to them knowing jack shit about the game
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>>158098782
I want to hear someone complain about Dragon or Blood for a change.

That would be interesting.
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>>158098491
i don't want to be that guy, but I honestly never wanted to move out of the mbgg thread and draw even more attention to the game. now people just shitpost in the hs thread and every fucking thread you have at least a dozen people going "durr explain to me how this is better than hearthstone"

>>158098564
they complain about other top decks too, but even looking solely at haven the only one worth bitching about is bird, yet people every thread find the need to bitch about literally every decent card in haven even if it's not run in storm like seraph or elana.

the most hilarious one is baldy, honestly. Either this general is made up of 50% shadow players or people are just bitching to bitch.
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>>158098896
t. Haven player
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>>158098896
Fuck your cudgel
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>>158098936
nice try, I play control Sword and mid shadow actually of all things. i fucking despise baldy but I want them to give Shadow tools to deal with banish rather than nerfing him, having to take hell's unleasher out of my deck felt really shitty but it's really just a shadow specific problem.

>>158098978
i knew someone would bring up aiela, but an on curve aiela is typically answered by scripture, not baldy. you can't evolve baldy on the same turn as aiela comes down regardless if you go first or second.
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>>158098896
No one likes Baldy. He is literally the best 4 evo drop in the game.

I remember when someone was saying "Why complain about baldy when Dragon Warrior does the same thing?"
That was stupid.
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>>158098896
The new hate for Bald Nigger is probably due to how he can come out on curve alongside the activation of Beastcaller Aria to cause a huge swing that most classes have a hard time dealing with well.

>Either this general is made up of 50% shadow players or people are just bitching to bitch
People around here really love Luna so I wouldn't write that off as the case that they don't like waifu being bullied hard this meta
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>>158099050
oh yeah? explain how he's literally any different against sword, blood, rune, forest, and other haven.

it's seriously just shadow, and to a far lesser extent aiela, but personally I think aiela being answered by banish is fine because it's basically unanswerable for most classes, but i'm not a dragonfag so maybe i'm just biased.

>>158099062
yes, I was actually talking about that a few threads ago. but if you imagine literally any other power 4 evolution to pop on 4 alongside beastcall nearly every single one is absurd. It's not baldy, it's the timing of beastcall, and i actually think most decks would have an even harder time if baldy was replaced with Floral Fencer or something with 5 bodies coming down and 2 that can attack immediately on 4.
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>>158099062
Banish in general is really powerful because it does have the ability to shut down a lot of last words. It's pretty much like how silence was really strong in Hearthstone.

But banish spells are mostly condensed to one class in this game
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>>158098850
>decide to complain about a dragon
>oh wait it's a haven card
Maybe next time.
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>>158099031
STOP BANISHING MY AIELA
REEEEEEEE
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>>158099181
People will definitely complain about dragon when it comes out on steam since they have minions that can't be attacked.
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>>158099317
aiela is cute but i fucking hate dealing with her

i don't want to attack into her because it gives you 1 more pp to work with next turn but ignoring her seems iffy too if you curve into urd.

i usually just ignore her but god I feel annoyed when she gets urd'd. but maybe it's not fair for her to be countered by banish, idk. like i said, i'm biased.
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>>158099359
It's not like that's a problem >>158086592
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Oh god double Dshift is going to win
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>>158099172
I agree with you, it could have been any of the 4 drops, but since Baldy belongs to the class with Aria, he's the face of frustration when you have to deal with a 4/x, 4/4, and 2/1 on turn 4.

>>158099178
For sure banish is strong, before DE when Haven was not the aggressor class, Baldy and Scripture was mainly looked at as the thing that makes the matchup hard for Shadow players, and was mostly accepted as par for the course. But now it's not the case and it's the fact that Haven can banish stuff aggressively that's stupid, as they don't have to worry about last words impeding their progress.
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>>158099359
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>>158098850
here you go >>158092576

>>158099442
i understand he's an easy target for people to bitch because he's effective about but that's my point earlier

people are literally just bitching about every single effective card in haven regardless of whether or not they are actually the problem. it's getting old, even if sprint does need nerfs.
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>>158099506
A lot of things are broken in arena.

It's arena
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Is there somewhere that explains all the tcg terms like face, tempo etc that appear in this game?
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>>158099531
No, people just use them randomly, they don't actually have any meaning. It's like when you hear terms like cross up or mix up in fighting games.
It's all just buzzwords
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Just woke up and the rage tournament seems cool, the DShift player won really close.
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>>158099531
Try http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/level-one/glossary-terms-2015-09-21

Most of the terms still apply here and to CCG's in general
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>>158099529
you asked for someone bitching about dragon, I gave it to you. It's not like it's the first time someone's complained about forte anyway, even post DE.
>>
10459
Help with a mission please
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>>158099603
Yeah that's true.
Now for your final challenge, find someone bitching about blood post DE
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>>158099642
You can find plenty of bitching about Blood being weak, which probably isn't what you mean but hey
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>>158099642
>>158099680
i might even be able to find people bitching about control blood being strong if i look back far enough, when people were claiming bloody mary was the best card in DE.
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>>158099627
Thanks!
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>>158099531
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>>158099593
My ass was clenched so hard for both.
The Elf game was pretty good too, It's making me wanna bounce Tia.
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I'm about to install this. Which decks have the cutest cards?
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>>158100217
Blood
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>>158100217
Haven, yet another thing they beat everyone else at.
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>>158100217
Sword.
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Does the v 1.3.0. JP voice pack in the guide work with V1.3.1 of the game?
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>>158100263
Blood has whores, not cuties
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>>158100263
I wish to be dominated by this smug queen.
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>>158100263
He said cute, not STD ridden
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>>158100326
y
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>>158100330
Say that to her face, bitch.
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>>158100360
Okay

now to do a bunch of rerolling
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>>158100330
>>158100357
STD ridden whores can be cute too. Just look at this one >>158100361
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>>158100217
Depends on what you like

Sword = mostly knight and maid girls with some princesses
Dragon = mostly dragon girls (mostly just dragons, actually)
Haven = priest girls and a couple of knights
Blood = succubi
Forest = elves and fairies
Rune = witches
Shadow = also witches.

Sword has the cutest card though.
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>>158100442
>1 (one) cute card in the whole class
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>>158100325
>>158100449
>Sword
I will protect Otohime's smile!
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>>158100494
You sure? >>158087806
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>>158100545
yes
You'd need to convince me otherwise
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Why is Luna such a bitch? Would a dicking fix her?
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>>158100609
Can't beat the cock.
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>>158100583
Are you really sure?
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>>158100217
I dunno about cutest but forest probably has the highest total amount of cute cards, they're like 90% elves and fairies.
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>>158100217
Sword has best qties
It also has best bros
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>>158100361
ノァンピィちゃんはチンポだけから血を吞う!
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LUNA'S BACK
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>>158100609
>>158100643
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>>158100691
Remelia wouldn't lose to a chicken!
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>>158100662
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When does the daily stuff reset? At a fixed time, or X hours after your last login?
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>>158100524
I hope you never, ever evolve her then anon.
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>>158100662
Damn I completely forgot snek lady is in Blood
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>>158100726
21 hours after you finish the quest
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>>158100726
21 hours after you complete them.

So even if you reroll and get like another 20 gold quest, you are just better off doing it instead of waiting for the reroll ability to reset.
>>
Thanks for all the answers everyone - after checking with the deck builder, I'm torn between Sword, Shadow and Forest.

Will see how the rerolls treat me.
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ルナちゃんの負けだ!
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>>158100662
>>158100725
Well I guess thats kind of cute.
Not entirely convinced tho
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my sides
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Is there any better feeling than bouncing Tia up and down and getting her off over and over again?
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That odin....
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>>158100874
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>Shadow uses Odin on Elana
>Haven plays Seraph and wins
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>>158100874
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>>158100874
Have some cute vampire then.
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That Odin play.
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>>158100896
youtube.com/watch?v=hlv672jqbtE
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These surprise seraphs must be so infuriating.
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>>158100874
come on anon, you can just play multiple classes
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>>158100874
Forte wishes to be as cute as her.
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Poor Luna never stood a chance
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I love dshift
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>>158101078
That tiny skirt does things to me.
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>>158100940
>>158101023
Erika is wonderful. Her maid+knight look is excellent and her devotion and loyalty is both cool and cute.
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>DShift games are actually the most entertaining to watch
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>>158101168
ERIKA'S HUGE BOOBS
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>>158101231
That game gave me cancer.
>>
There wasn't a single Blood player on stream all day.
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>Dora

There's really a lot of fighting game players playing SV.
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>>158101338
No one has enough balls to play Blood.
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>>158101168
>>158101257
But Erika is petite! PETITE! Not a titty monster!
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>>158101446
Yeah she is. But upgrades are fun sometimes too.
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A CUUUUUUTE!
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SAGE COMMANDER SAVES THE DAY AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME
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>>158101924
Sage Commander counters forest confirmed.
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>>158101924
SHOW ME THE CUTIES
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>>158086183
i fed up with hearthstone shilling bullshit having to grind forever without ever being able to get in par with the current meta without shopping packs/adventures

is this game any better under this aspect? i like card games but i don't wanna play sub optimal decks just because some dude in california wants my money
>>
>>158102051
You can be part of the meta pretty easily for the most part for free. Some of the best decks are super cheap. But some of the other best decks require an arm and a leg. It's still achievable, just gotta be persistent. Everyone would suggest rerolling for a decent start of your first aimed deck before starting. Rerolling takes only a few minutes per reroll if you're fast at it.
>>
Help!

Banner swordcraft is carrying me way too high!
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>>158102051
It's a lot easier to get packs than Hearthstone, and the arena mode isn't quite as bullshit as HS's. How short or long it takes you to make a deck is still up to luck, and how expensive whatever deck you end up targeting, though.
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>>158102051
Heard of re rolls?
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>>158102051
Reroll for as many good legendaries as you can, maybe for some class specific ones if you have a class you want to play upon starting.

Farm arena with all the free tickets and gold to get a shit ton of packs if you're competent at card games and drafting.

You can build a tier 1 deck relatively quickly if you are willing to vial a bit, or you can work towards the shell of one with some budget subsitutions, it really doesn't take long. There are also budget options for most decks for you to complete dailies with. A collection of tier 1 decks will take you a while but them's the breaks.
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>>158102142
>>158102156
>>158102159
>>158102180
thanks my dudes
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I have 2 satans but I'm not sure if I'll ever make a satan deck. I think I'll keep 1 just in case, but would 2 be necessary for those types of decks?
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Aggro shadow - best shadow.
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>>158101446
The appeal of Erika is the tights of a trained knight
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>>158102567
yes, 1 satan isn't consistent enough for a deck that absolutely needs him on turn 10.

but i don't think satan decks will become a thing again
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fuckin trump over here
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>just opened my fifth Skullfane
I just want to be the Elf cancer pls ;_;
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everyone rooting for Dora since his opponent bmed him in round 2
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>>158102621
>but i don't think satan decks will become a thing again
Is there a good reason behind why you think that? Would I still need more than one if I did a dragon variant? Since I think it'd just emissary it out.
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Is Dora the only FG player to make it past the first round?
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>>158102772
Not him, but Satan comes out on turn 10. Other control decks win on turn 7-9.
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>>158102567
I'm pretty sure you would need two
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>>158102772
If Dragon becomes meta again they have a better and more consistent win condition in ramping to their fat storm cards to the face.

Haven's sole win condition is no longer satan and they now have a plethora of ways to build decks now, I can't see them ever going back to him now.
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>>158100725
I am in love with her English voice
>Soooo sparkly!
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>Opponent quits
>Wasn't fast enough to "Subarashii!" him
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>>158102857
>>158102942
Well, I'm very tempted to just vial both of my satans then. Thanks for the heads up. I'll probably get rid of them once I need to craft something.
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>>158102857
Satan comes down turn 6
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>>158102997
Princess Tomato leads when
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rate my Satan memes
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.5_394.5_394.5_394.65BUS.65BUS.62sac.62sac.66giC.66giC.66giC.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.66jtU.66jtU.61O4K.61O4K.62sZM.62sZM.62sZM.62v0O.62v0O.5_4sI.5_4sI.5_4sI.62u_S.62u_S.62u_S.62u_m.62u_m.66j8S.66j8S.66j8S.62xRs.62xRs.61SE6.61SE6
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>>158103101
Try Ethica since you want to ramp fast as fuck
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>>158102834
Koichi is in top 128 too. Since Fuudo and Itazan are out that means ArcSys players > SF players in SV.
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>>158098121
the people bitch are just HS retards that moved over to the game. all they do is complain and bitch.

the real SV players will post luna.
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>>158102984
Yeah I actually like it. Except the GIMME sounds a little too bratty on attack.

I want to make a healing/control blood deck including her, but I don't think there are enough cards to support it yet.
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>>158103438
Lunaposting.
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Was there a single Blood deck in the tournament? How long will faggots who never touch the class keep bullshitting that it's fine, and not underpowered as shit?
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>>158103771
They just need to make more bat cards with vengeance sinergy.

like making queen vampire with a real effect
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>>158103771
Not on stream at least.
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Isn't this list a bit risky running 2 DoDs? I thought the point of Face Dragon was to guarantee Emissary into Forte?
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>>158104212
I know one dude made master with it but

>goblin
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>>158104212
No Urd?
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>>158104285
What's this?
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>>158104323
I was running a different variant of Face Dragon but was curious what else was out there and wanted to compare. Goblins worked fine but the deck I was using included Dragonewt Scholars so they'd be fodder if it came down to it.
>>158104330
Urd's not run in full on Face Dragon decks as far as I know. You typically aim to win the game by turn 5-7.
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>>158104285
>All these cheap whores of other classes compared to Vampy
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>>158104285
>Vampy price
Truly the patrician's choice
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>>158104350
if I'm not wrong they're promos for real cards
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>new enough and low enough rank that I haven't seen any extreme nonsense yet
>up against a haven
>how bad could it be?
>endless stream of tigers and birds all over the place
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>>158104492
Vania Vampire Queen when?
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>>158104350
it shows the prices that the store will buy your irl shadowverse cards for
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>>158104569
build wall
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>>158104737
Trump pls
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>>158104569
The birds and the tigers are the least cancerous things Haven has.
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Finally got the 12k Urd
Not that it matters since I use Vania for all anyway
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>>158104569
Just control his face. Even blood and shadow can do it.
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>>158104946
Vania is all we need.
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I assume the PC version will be linked with your steam profile, which means no rerolling?

So best bet would be rolling on mobile/emulator, then importing the data.
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>>158105110
Yes
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>>158104581
When I marry her and we succeed the throne
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how to abuse the elite ai with haven?
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>>158105505
Elite AI is a joke. Just don't play like a dingus.
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5 wins two times in a row. I'm getting better at this.
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How cheap can you get with forest craft without losing on efficiency? I know ancient elves and rhino bugs are mandatory. What else?
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How does unranked work in terms of matchmaking? Does it just match whoever?
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Didn't know this exists.
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>Playing Shadow vs Haven
>Have bad start, bad draws, hardly any momentum going
>Throw out Mordecai, but it looks like it's all over
>Opponent's deck is evidentially full of banishes
>Uses 3 banishes since then on everything but Mordecai
>Mordecai slowly chips away at his field and healthy for like 10 turns
>Rage quits before Mordecai's killing blow
Should I tell him?
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>>158106494
How retarded he is? Yes.
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>16 days into this game
>never got a copy in the initial batch
>this happened

Why do you do this, cygame? Can you at least buff her?
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>>158106656
>buff
>blood
Welcome to the "Priest" class fuccboi.
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>>158101924
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is dragon wings any good as card?

it just seems very lackluster only doing one damage across the board unless youre playing against a bunch of vampire bats but I never draw the card when I play against bloodcraft obviously.
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>>158107104
Bats, fairies and Knights
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>>158107104
>Elf scum starts flooding the board with weenies to prepare for his hag to come down
>Dragon wings
>2 turns later he does it again
>Dragon wings
>"The opponent has conceded"
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>>158106456
holy shit im playing forest right now and it shows me i got forest
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>>158104415
What the hell is a Vampy?
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>>158107531
I'm teach you something
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>>158107104
It's just a variation of angelic barrage. Personally I'd take barrage since it does an extra damage to face.
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>>158107312

noice im on an 8 win streak with dragoncraft due to my sick fafnir top decking abilities

D1 dumpster league boys
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>>158107531
Japanese Vania
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>>158106707
>Priest
>T2

Does not compute.
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>>158107642

but i have two animated dragon wings so guess which goes in my deck.
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Playing storm haven while listening to the SMOrc song is funny. Me go face? Yep! Me go trade? NO!
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>>158107756
This is basically storm haven right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jenlSf2E8o
face plays taunt play garuda to go face
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>>158107658
Oh, OK. I thought her Japanese name was Vanpii.
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>>158107825
totally match the song turn 7 lethal,me go face me not need to trade, if the face play taunt we still go face
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>>158107624
I want to sniff her asshole!
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>>158107312
Forte is cute, not hag.

>>158108121
It's Vanpyi but that's just Jap accent doing its thing.

>>158108514
It's one of the degenerates we were warned about a few threads ago!
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>>158107104
It's good, since >>158107162 are all things you can see in the meta right now. Don't underestimate the mana cost reduction over barrage either.
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>>158108894
Nobody called Forte a hag.
I was referring to the Ancient Elf.
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>>158107709
>Blood
>Tier 2
AGGRO is tier 2, only because it free wins against DShift, and can be faster than storm Haven.I swear, every fucking thread has a retard tripping over himself to excuse the sorry state of Blood, when literally all signs point to it being depressingly underpowered.
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>>158109767
>AGGRO is tier 2,
Then I guess Haven is balanced because its only T1 deck is aggro storm :^)
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Pls help with win private match.

11676
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>>158109921
Difference is, literally every fucking Haven deck is viable in any format. Just put fucking Aria in, and whatever fucking meme you build is now tier 2 minimum. The same applies to Forest, just put 3x Ancient Elf and Roach, and you have yourself a tier 2 or 1 deck no matter what fucking other memes you use.

Blood has it's absolute most competitive deck as a middle of the pack tier 2, and that's literally the only deck even remotely viable. Everything else in the class is bottom tier 3.
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>>158110102
send help 11676
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>>158109339
Oh, I read that as "this hag" not "his hag." All is well.
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>>158110327
>Difference is,
No, you're just jumping through some impressive mental hoops and moving goalposts to try and rationalize Blood as a garbage craft. Any craft that has a deck in T2 is not Priest tier no matter how much you lie through your teeth.

Both shadow and dragon are also barely in T2 with their only decks being hard face aggro. Do you think they are also garbage-tier on the level of Blood? No, of course not. Now shut up or go back to /hsg/.
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>>158110360
Thanks VV.
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>>158110575
Np senpai.
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>>158110421
I would never call my cute wife Forte a hag.
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>>158110560
>Shadow and Dragon
Oh you mean the 2 """bad"""" crafts that actually saw tournament play? Show me the Blood deck that was brought to the tournament. Let me guess, no reply? So it's the least played craft, it's the only one in the meta that hasn't touched tier 1 back to back from the previous meta, it's the only that hasn't seen tournament play, but somehow it's on par with the others? Who's jumping through the mental hoops again?
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>>158110736
>Oh you mean the 2 """bad"""" crafts that actually saw tournament play?
Oh, so we went from
>Blood is bad because I say so
to
>Blood is bad because it only has one aggro deck in T2
to
>Blood is bad because it wasn't played at one tournament

Jesus christ, Anon. Here's your last (You). Take it and do something with your life.
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Wich deck destroys both Elana and Storm Haven? I'm at A0 and it's filled with that bitches. I just wanted to play some Dragon but Face is not good enough.
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8000 reward is just a profile thing?

does we actual win a urd?
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Banner meme has odds in beating both.
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>>158111196
Just cardback and emblem, no cards sadly.
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Left or right?


does shit queen woth anything here?
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>>158111073
>your last (you) I win I got the last laugh in hahaa ad hom ad hom
You're pathetic, seek help. See? I can do that too! You didn't address a single fucking argument in any of your posts. Every single post you made is literally just a drawn out adhom that's dismissing the argument entirely. You argue " to win an argument" not to prove it wrong.

If representation in the highest tier of competitive play, a tournament, representation in the lowest tier of play, netdecking casual ladder, tier scoring from month to month, and number of viable decks as agreed upon by the community, are not valid forms of determining a class' strength, what exactly is? Your feelings?

I fully realize I'm the fucking retard here for even humoring you, so I suppose "you win" in that regard, so thanks for (you) I guess.
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Who here /madeit/?
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>>158111232
I forgot to say that wanted something that wasn't banermeme, climbed all the way with and got bored, so wanted to change a little.
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>somebody is spamming aggresive emote
I hope he will die in pain
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>>158111073
>>158111519
Don't know what are you guys discussing but i'm on the side of BLOOD IS SHIT because the ability is shit and don't have cards to do anything
>>
>GAO GAO
What did she mean by this?
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>>158111973
>GAO GAoO
is a onomatopeia of bear in japanese
>>
Starting this game now. What is a good cheap functional deck for a starter?
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>>158112364
try to rerroll and get good cards to start

swordcraft is the cheapest way to start
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>>158112042
what kind of bear makes gao
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>>158112939
The cute girl kind.
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>>158112939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2-V1fLmrfQ

Don't know, i can see nyan being meow but "GAO" is nothing near of "ROAAAAAAAAAWR"
>>
>play against haven elite
>pulls themis 2 times in a row wiping my full board for only 6 PP
Why is this allowed?
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>>158113060
What are you talking about?
I would shit myself at the sound of GAO.
>>
should i get 5 packs or get vaniya? i want to play blood, but i want a waifu vampire, not a cuck.
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>>158113085
If you're playing with sword you need to bait haven don't drop all your shit on board and next turn you just flood the board again.

Use the five drop bring more officer instead of trowing officers
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>>158113223
Both are fine.
I don't know if people actually buy Selwyn, Latham or Erasmus though.
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>>158113223
I did this and don't regret

win all the ai in elite to win 1400 gold
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>>158113280
I was playing forest,cockblocked his units from attacking then he used a themis.
Then i dropped a unit while it had only amulets on board pulled another fucking themis me having lethal all this time.
And of course i got cockblocked by that simple 2PP ward follower who reduced every incoming damage by one so my fanfare attacks was fucking useless against it.
>>
>>158113503
Temple Defender is a 3PP 2/2
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>>158113642
Then it's 3PP but still it's a bullshit card.
>>
>>158113690
Nigga, Haven is so broken right now they don't even play it in most list, yes including Elana.
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>>158113690
Not really, it dies instantly to 3dmg
Its only good against swarms
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>>158113397
tell us what you pull with them 100 coins senpai?
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>>158111359
Hello i'm having a doubt here
>>
>>158111359
>>158113803
easiest right ever
why are you even asking
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>build a dumb face Bloodcraft deck because all of my daily quests are Bloodcraft related
>win 5 of 5 matches, none of them went past turn 6
>some opponents were playing real decks like storm haven and banner memes

You know, I'm almost tempted to try it in ranked, but there's a decent number of healsluts in A2 and that's an autoloss.
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>>158113801
Probaly a queen vampire
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What is the purpose of this card

Laelia memes?
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>>158113223
Blood has two top tier leaders. Same with Shadow.

Haven really needs a good one. Evil hag and cancer bird.
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>>158113801
>>158114009
Everytime I open a pack I never got anything Blood related that is remotely useful. Everytime!
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>>158114084
probably to be used in conjunction with that amulet which gives ward to 4+def followers
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>>158113901
Remove Marmo, input Vania
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>>158114084
Guardian Sun, you know, that really good card that was core in every Haven deck before they got a broken 2 PP dominate the early board card?
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>>158114084
1/6 for 4 isn't horrible stats to begin with when evolve exists, but yes it's for Laelia.

A lot of the design inspiration in this game comes from MtG, not cuckstone.
>>
Help me do ma dailies plz

93513
>>
>>158114209
>1 attack ward on turn 4 if you pulled and played your Sun
amazing

Better play Guardian Nun or pay one more pp and drop a Cleric Lancer
>>
>>158114206
There's already 3x Vania in there.

Mormo is actually better than Night Horde because it's a 2 drop and you're in vengeance so often with stuff like Vampire Lykos and Bloodfed Flowerbed in the deck.
>>
>>158114365
I'm not brave enough to leaning on the edge everytime I play Blood.
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>>158114354
Oh I'm sorry that not every card is 20/10 amazing auto include in your broken class.
>>
>>158114365
Night Horde is also a great removal tool tho
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lEft or right?
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>>158114209
Nobody ever played Canoness
>>
>>158113397
how do u access the elite AI, do i have to beat the story?
>>
>>158114573
right
>>
Should I even attempt to play Forest without any Ancient Elves?
>>
Remember when evolution wasn't "deal 2 damage to your opponent"? Those were sure good times.
>>
>>158114619
Solo >Practice > Pick your punchbag > Select Elite > Profit
>>
>A lot of the design inspiration in this game comes from MtG, not cuckstone.

I find it funny when people say that because like 90% of the classic mechanics and cards in HS are ripped straight off MtG, renamed and dumbed down. The only difference is that HS is a direct attack game so stuff like Taunt can exist while MtG is a blocker oriented game.

>>158114573
Right, you have enough bat synergy going on and Medusa is great in general.
>>
>>158114619
>solo
>practice
>choose elite

200 free gold for each class
>>
Also fuck Blackened Scripture. 2PP to BANISH a follower with 3 hp or less.
Like what the fuck.
>>
>>158114654
only if you're a masochist or in shitter ranks
>>
>>158114730
It's the same as removal 90% of the time, it just cucks shadow.
>>
Is there a replay for the tournament?
>>
>>158114767
And Dragon. Haven being meta is a large part of the reason no only plays Dragon right now, their core Aiela + Urd combo doesn't work.
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>>158114767
Also, Dragon.
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>>158114573
You have no draw and could do with a 4, but you're also gonna struggle to retake the board which Medusa helps with a lot.
>>
>>158114864
>>158114869
True, it also fucks ramp.
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>>158114009
GL on blood cards

>>158114149
Know this feel anon, we all gonna make it
>>
>>158111625
I'm at 18000. I'm hoping they will be giving out different portraits/card backs each month
>>
>>158114084
It's not bad in take 2 and works with Laelia.
>>
>>158111625
I stopped grinding ranked for this season when I got the last unique reward, the Urd stuff. I already hit AA0 so grinding for Master can come next month.
>>
>>158114661

>>158114713
oh neat
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I've got a Private daily, I want some help with? Don't mind whether you concede or we battle

id: 10986
>>
>want to get forest cards
>get cards for other classes mainly
fuck
>>
>>158114209
Guardian Sun is only run in heavy control decks since you only get good value for it down the line by stalling out.

Also, no one ran canoness before DE.
>>
>>158115385
It's like they're basing the cards we got on whatever class we mainly playing and decided to fuck us over.
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Face is the place.
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turn 6 Satan bullshit > Elf bullshit
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>>158115101
What does getting to master get you?
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Let's play take a two together
66730
>>158114654
(((no)))
>>158115385
>want to play with litlle girls
>get cards for bloodcraft only
Buy Vania
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>>158116042
All the 2D poos you can wish for.
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>>158115193
Thanks a bunch anon
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>>158115924
rip elf
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>>158115385
>roll and start building towards haven
>get almost a full dshift deck
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>>158116163
As bad as that 13/13 looks on paper, it's a fucking game ender if they don't have an answer for it. And even if they do, you still have 2 more in addition to 7 other even better cards.
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>>158115385
Same but for Sword, 120 days and no Sword legend pulled from packs. the next pack tho', for sure this time
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>>158116302
>Be Haven versus Dragon
>They ramp up to turn 7 Satan cancer
>A combination of Guardian Sun, Kaguya, and Curates makes him deck out

For how shit control Haven is, it was always a beautiful thing cucking Dragon players like that.
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>>158116108
I'm still up guys
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Please help an anon out with a private daily
ID:63003
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>about to craft my third legendary
>accidentally liquefy one instead
... whoops
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>>158117451
Thanks mane
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>>158117592
fug man
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Left or right?
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>>158117864
If you have a lot of evolve effect right.

if not left
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>>158117864
WINNDDDDDDDDDD
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>>158117864
Left, Reina is a meme.
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>>158117954
Reina doesn't trigger evolve effects.
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>>158117981
>Thinking Reina evolve things without needing evolve point
>Nope
Literally why
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>>158117864
Reina and Wind God both require you to have board. Wind God requires it less and is a bit better of a 5 drop than Reina is an 8 drop. Bellringer is a consideration for slowing down the early game and as a cycle. Sword Maiden is an okay 5 drop (though you'd much rather have a cleric lancer or w/e). I'd probably go left. Reina just feels a bit too slow and Wind God gives you some flexibility with an aggressive early game.
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>>158117096
Why wouldn't I just play take two normally?
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We're all in agreement that swordcraft is pretty busted right?
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>>158118230
no gold

and i want to train
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>tfw no anon livestreaming

Dun gufiin
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>>158118319
what's that 6/9?
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>>158118453
My wife Charlotte.
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>>158118453

Dragonewt Charlotte

4/7

Storm + Ward
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>>158118127
...though, just because I'm thinking a lot about arena meta lately, there are a couple of pluses to Reina in Haven:

1) I find that Haven is less evo-dependent than other classes in take 2. It's the class I must often have spare evolves or evolves left over playing. Sometimes you just need to use evolves for the tempo, but I think Haven gets around this sometimes because it can force large stats on the board early and your opponent has to burn evolves for that.

2) By the same metric, there's a potential for an insane amulet payoff + Reina play that genuinely turns the game around and gives you the board back on 8. But I think that's a little too cute most games, you'll need to play those amulets earlier.

I do think Wind God isn't super synergistic with Haven as she is with Sword but sometimes you do have large boards and she complements your untargetable minions and amulet spawns. At the very least it's something your opponent has to remove.
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>Otohime's """bodyguards""" don't even have taunt
what a useless card
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>>158118918
you don't even see a certain shit queen with two 1/1 drops wards...
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>>158118416
There is a way to stream directly from mobile to twitch?
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>>158118601
I'd 6/9 your wife.
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>>158118601
>>158118603
ah thanks, looks good
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do you think they're going to give everyone some free stuff for the steam launch?
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When will we get any new update? Like friend chat or battle recording?
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>>158119681
the game is going to be on Steam?
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>>158119861
yeah on the 26th
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>>158119681
No one knows, but IMO they'd be stupid not to so it's pretty likely.
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>>158119681
they throw away free shit with every special occasion so i expect something like "Register this game on steam now to get a 10 pack starter package"
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just got an eternal closed beta key.

What am i in for?
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>>158120217
a niche indie game experience
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>>158120217
The art style is inferior imo.

but don't know about the game
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Who actually buy and use the Forest, Rune and Sword alt leaders?
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>>158120105
A random neutral legend would be aight too.
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>>158120593
>everyone gets Olivia
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>>158120217
It's pretty fun, you can actually do shit on your opponents turn. But ultimately I just hated all the cards for some reason
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>>158120648
oh boy I wish
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>>158120503
Erasmus is baller as fuck though.
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>>158120709
Never fought someone who use him over Isabelle's meme tits before, and I fought some dude based enough to use Mordecai over annoying Luna.
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can someone post their heal haven list
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>>158120503
I dont understand why people dont stick with the Bloodcraft one either, I mean the dude is pretty great. Besides, I would feel like a pedophile to use the alt art, the hell is that. Clearly a child.
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>>158120648
Watch it be Odin.
>>158120775
I dealt with a lot of Erasmuses up until now so eh.
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>>158120835
Urias is based, but ever since I use Vania I can't stop using her since she's so fucking cute, and I'm not even a lolicon nor a fan of loli vampires.
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>>158120835
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Is she the Dr.Boom of Darkness Evolved? I mean jesus christ resetting the evolutions is already insane, but even more in a set with a lot of "evolution-matters" cards.
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>>158120503
>not playing as Gandalf
>not bro'ing up with your bros as the high king
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>>158121027
You're so stupid /hsg/
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>>158120952
I do agree that she's cute but it makes me uncomfortable.
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>>158121027
Nope.
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>>158121157
At least she's still properly dressed.
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>>158121027
I bet you think that a 10 point "win the game" card would be the best card in the game.
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>>158121157
Vampy is a good girl, and she's royalty. Don't project your disgusting lewd fantasies on to her.
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>>158121027
Not in a metagame where there's numerous decks that ends the game at turn 7-8. Even if she's a 2-3 of in control builds, she's still mediocre that doesn't guarantee you the victory the moment she's played.
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>>158121209
Because she is the type that undress you
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>>158121453
More Vampy in "attack mode."
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>>158121762
"here take that"
~she start biting you neck
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>>158120669
>>158120381
>>158120306
well i just played the tutorial. Seems more similar to magic with all the power cards basically being lands but the basic pack contains a legendary that reads "Summon: Play a random weapon on each of your red units" so that doesn't bode well.
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>>158121336
Well it would be powercreeping Satan
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>>158121872
Possibly worth.
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Any suggestions for replacing Dragonewts Scholar + Wildfang in a Face Dragon deck?
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How many Vanias is too many Vanias.
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>>158122286
9
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>>158122286
Damn sluts, they are so cheap
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>>158122286
What? I don't understand the question.
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>>158122213
I'm using Unica instead of dragonewt.
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>>158122286
All this good taste
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Just got 5/5 in arena with a silly swordcraft.

Forgot to get the deck but basically it was all 3-4 points, I had barely any 1-2 point cards.

The deck was just one million white generals, couragous knights, snippy garderner and ruthless assassins with 2 cursed generals on top of that.

Basically I could do nothing early game but in mid game I were pumping out one million troops thanks to cursed general
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Just started the game and rolled these - personally, I want to go for either Shadow or Sword, and the pastebin mentions Cerberus being a must-have for Shadow (although I didn't roll any flies).

Should I keep going?
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>Try to main forestcraft but got cards for other classes
>create a simple dragon deck with value cards
>easily win games even if i don't pull the oracle
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>>158102051
For 7,500 vials you can make S Tier meta Rune Deck and stomp your way to AA tier. But then if you want to have fun and play other decks you must spend 40K+ vials.
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>>158122558
>>158123124
ok
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Private match please

13694
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What's a newt?
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>>158123416

Thanks anon
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>>158123762
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>>158123762
Claymore Maid's friend
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>>158123829
aww hell yeah look at that lil guy
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>>158123030

shadow is really weak right now you will need a complete deck to fight agains the budget decks on ladder.

Sword: it's cheap as fuck you can make a good deck only with silver and bronze

You drops: seems a good start i would stick with that

pic: my start
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>Open 2 packs
>3 Arthurian Light
ok
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>>158124048
I see, thanks, I could roll for some good sword cards in that case, got plenty of time and patience.
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>>158124109
750 Vial in 2 pack is pretty neat I think.
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>>158124048
>weak
Its pretty fine, m8. Shes still can fight pretty well against almost all meta decks.
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>>158123213

>7500 vials

Unless you roll one or two merlin, how?
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What is the max level for each craft?
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>>158111519
>If representation in the highest tier of competitive play, a tournament, representation in the lowest tier of play, netdecking casual ladder, tier scoring from month to month, and number of viable decks as agreed upon by the community, are not valid forms of determining a class' strength, what exactly is?
Representation in mid levels of play e.g. AA/Master ladder? It's like miracle rogue in hearthstone, shit to ladder with, shit in tourney contexts, probably not on whatever autistic tier list Reynad shat out, but it's popular enough in gold league & legend that its worth considering a real deck. That makes rogue better off than paladin, priest, and even arguably warlock. If blood is in a similar place - which it is, given the usage rates for control blood on syadoreco - it's hardly the worst thing that could happen to a class. Worth trying to address, sure, but not sth that justifies making it the next haven, given how disastrous the haven boost was
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>>158122286
>It's me, Vania!
>It's me, Castlevania!
>It's me, Transylvania!
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>>158124636
99
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>>158124636
>>158124796
Nope, it's 100, Vampy-anon is 100 in Blood
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>>158124796
And there are achievements up to 99? What about the "Win X ranked matches with Ycraft" achievements, how far do these go?
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>>158124563
You don't need Merlin to play PtP Rune. PtP Rune also auto wins against the most popular decks right now. Only have to be worried for those niche weirdos playing Bat Blood and Face Dragon.

>When you petrify Elana's Prayer and then bounce the golem back to their hand with Kaleidoscope

Feels good.
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>>158124991

>Rune
>ever auto wins against most popular decks

Decklist, please.
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Help with private match quest
86714
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Describe your class with a picture. This is Blood.
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>>158125167
It autowins against Seraph and PtP Rune, also has a good winrate against CSword, Elana and PtP Forest. Meme decks like CShadow and CBlood also get blown the fuck out.

It really only eats dick against Storm Haven, Tempo Elf and especially aggro Blood.
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>>158125790
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>>158125167
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.3.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.61QWQ.61QWQ.61QWQ.66NA2.66NA2.5-gka.5-gka.5-gka.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gku.5-gku.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UtQ.5-gl2.5-gl2.5-gl2.62XK8.62XK8.62XKI.62XKI.66LT8.66LT8.61Q1A.61Q1A.61Q1A.5-glC.5-glC.5-glC.62ZmO.62ZmO.62ZmO.62Uta.62Uta.62Uta#

Make changes as necessary depending on what you run into the most. When I had long streaks of heaven players I would add a third copy of Petrification. Normally I use 2 PtP but I've been running into people with Odin/Execution.

Right now I have 60%+ win rates again Sword, Forest, and Heaven and their variations. Only Birdman Heaven is the closest to being a bad match up. Hardly run into Shadowcraft so I don't have much data. The deck has a hard time against supper aggressive Bloodcraft and Dragon face.
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>>158125945
America fuck yeah!
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>>158125790
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>>158125790
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>>158125790
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>>158125945
I know US patriotism has become a meme, but I unironically love shit like this at sporting events.
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>>158124703
Ignore him. He already admitted some threads ago that he's the bloodcuck who likes to fish for (You)'s.
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>try the game out
>download the jp voices
>start going through solo mode
>can't stop noticing all the inconsistencies between the voices and the text
This is more annoying than I thought it'd be. What kind of hack job of a translation was this?

Enjoying the game so far though.
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What is the tournament format of Shadowverse? In terms of hearthstone's conquest and last heroe standing.
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I hope control blood is never good. Vampy decks are okay tho
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>>158126840
Why would you wish for something so suck to suck even more?
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Are Aggro Necro and Aggro Blood actually good or not?

Game ai lists them as tier 2 if anyting but I dont get that impression in game and in talks about those two
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>>158125790
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>Fight a Haven opponent in arena who has Aria, Garuda, Urd, Priest of the Cudgel, Moon Al-Mi'rajm, and Mainyu, and lose because of Garuda burn
Are you fucking kidding me. I get enough Storm Haven bullshit in constructed.
I am honestly so fucking pissed right now I hope they fucking kill Garuda so he becomes completely unplayable shit
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>Banner Sword fags think they can go under my garuda value train.

Sidenote, 1-2 Healing Prayer have really gotten me out of tight spots with either the healing part or the countdown part.
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>>158127125
Aggro Blood is pretty good if you got good draw/turn. They didn't fare so well against healsluts or those with shit ton of wards, though.
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>>158126701
It's like a fanfiction
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>>158125790
>;^ )
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>>158127210

They really buffed Haven in arena. It seems everyone draws at least one copy of the OP shit like Elana, Priest, Garuda and 2 Arias minimum.
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>>158125790
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I've encounter a banner swordcraft that you guys are talking about so much for the first time.

Was pretty overwhelmed by his otohime.

>On the turn that I almost lose, I played rose queen, getting 4 rose thorn
>He proceed to miss lethal next turn, trading to kill my queen
>Clear his shits for a few turns with blood thorns
>Win with some help from Gabriel

That banner shit seems pretty good but not as hard to deal with compare to havencrafts with all their amulets.
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Is there a way to watch yesterday's tournament? If openrec.tv has VODs I'm too stupid to find them
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>>158127551
>Otohime
>in Bannermemes
But thats wrong
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this guy is so fucking mad lelelele
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>>158127707
What?
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>>158127517
I fucking hate the 4 drop evolves in arena. Going second is already a huge advantage in a world where you get to build your deck. That shit is so unfair when your opponent can have them and you might not get yours; sometimes there's just no coming back.
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>>158127329
Ah, so its actually good on its own but doesnt fare well against the meta

I think I'll spend some of my 2.5k vials for now to make a working budget rune deck to get through story mode
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>>158127662

I don't know. I just see him play 1 banner and a lot of officers. bunch of 2/2 are pretty hard to deal with. It has some synergy I think?
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>>158127707

Why would you be mad in shadowverse? This is not hearthstone.
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>>158127913
too slow and you get less value out of otohime the more banners you put down
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>>158128049

I see. I am still new to this game. That was probably one of the strongest deck I've faced, second only to havencrafts.
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>>158127913
It's exactly the same overall stat value player her on an empty board or playing her on a board with 1 banner. I don't see why you couldn't run an Otohime or two in your banner deck, other than she's slow.
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>>158128014
Fucking this, I don't get it. Even if I lose a bunch I don't actually feel bad like I did with HS or many other card games I have played over the years, physical or otherwise.
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>>158128014
Because Will of the Forest and Elf Child May and Pixie Mischief.
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>>158127078
Because control blood has ez 12 face damage from hand on turn 9 and is impossible to kill if it ever gets good.
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>>158127125
Aggro necro is incredibly consistent. Given that it is not a tier 1 deck, that's not necessarily a good thing. If you draw your best curve, versus a more meta deck that draws their best curve, you probably lose. But in cases where both players are kinda curving out, nobody has the god hand, necro has a very good shot at winning. Feels like a very coinflip deck, ironically, because of that. Good if you want to gradually grind through the ranks where you're more skilled than your opponents and therefore have a weighted coin
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>>158127707
>his opponent gives anon a compliment
>anon thinks he's mad
is it autism or bait?
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>>158128257
I don't really see any reason to use Otohime now because of Avant Blader. Before you'd be running out of steam mid/late game because of no draw sources but Avant Blader pretty much fixes that. Feels better to refresh your hand for future turns or whatever instead of playing Otohime and losing everyone to board clear or something. And besides Vanguard, all the soldiers you draw from your deck will be more useful than the 1/2's from Otohime.
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>>158128829

I only rank with forest and I don't see the problem with those cards.
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>>158128829
Pixie Mischief should really just be fucking targeted. I get it, fairies are mischievous so they have RNG elements to their cards, but come on. Just makes it frustrating.
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>D-s Player here

Opponent Heavencraft


He's FUCKING AFK


The pain is real
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>>158129630
>Solitaire's greatest enemy
>an afk opponent
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>>158129630
Finally.
>>158129763
lel.
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Is there a general rule about rerolling? Like "don't settle for anything less than 3 legendary" pulls?
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>>158125790
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>>158129064
>>158127870
>>158128014


context:

he was spamming "amazing" and actually didnt quit the game untill the very last second, in which he just alt+f4ed to give me recconect screen. id say that was rage.
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>>158129630
>>158129813
THIS IS EPIC!!!!!!!!!
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>>158130103
xd lol its funny cuz hes mad
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>>158129813
He probably just ragequit and the game hasn't detected it.
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>friends
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>>158127517
The thing with Haven is it has no bad 2 drops and a really strong midgame.
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>>158127892
I went 5-0 with no 4 drops a few days back, 5-0 with only 1 4 today.
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>>158130765
I like that this option is a thing, even if I haven't used it yet.
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>>158129079
Because Otohime still fills your board *for free* in one turn.

>>158129496
Why would you be mad at them if you main Forest? Being on the receiving end is why you'd get mad.
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>>158130079
decide on a class, after that getting useful legendaries is 3.5x better than not useful legendaries
try getting at least one useful legendary and at least 4 less useful ones or alternatively at least 4 useful golds
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>>158130765
Just got my friend to play this earlier. He intends to go Rune.
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>>158131636
kek gg
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>>158131490
I love it. It's an amazing way to practice drafting and it's a lot of fun too. I wish Hearthstone had something similar. If Shadowverse gets a Tournament mode before Hearthstone, I'll uninstall Hearthstone on the spot.
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>>158131685
I mean I just got him to play Shadowverse. Wrong use of words there. Will probably invite him on take two in the future, though.
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>>158131615
Decided on Sword, rolled Otohime, and golds from other classes. Was thinking of trying again.
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>>158131768
otohime is basically your best pull but I wouldn't settle for it if you don't have any other legendaries you can liquify
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>Opponent plays Summon Pegasus
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Anyone actually want to do a private arena run? I have never tried to do it and wanted to play around with elf/rune/blood
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>>158132054
>Not just posting the match ID

Step it up, son.
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>>158132054
So do i, just create a room and i will enter
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>>158131612

Forest is fun, c'mon. Let's play.

All my wins except for 2 matches are forest.
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>>158131971
>you get memed on
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>>158132175
>>158132192
>>158132260
96130
I am not sure if I can restart once the game starts, but I might try to re-roll until I get something that is not Sword/Shadow/Dragon/Haven
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>>158131971
>summon a horse with wings
>it doesn't have storm

I've never seen that thing actually be useful. Really is one of the worst cards in the game.
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>>158131971
I got Skullfaned in A0 today, if it wasn't for my Garuda's 3 to face he would've beat me. Opponent was playing Holy Sentinel and Lighting Behemoth. I hope he makes it to AA0
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>>158132532
should have Rush at least desu
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>>158132532
Well to be fair every deck would run 10 of them if it did have storm, doing 1/4 (or half with Urd) of your opponent's health in one swing would be beyond busted.

It has 3 fucking health, it dies to literally everything. I have 341ed people playing Pegasus with the bald priest literally every single time
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Will esports destroy shadowverse? or did tier lists already do that?
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Yo is this shit playable without spending tons of cash?
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>>158133038
I started 3 days ago, spent a few hours rolling and now I almost have two full decks
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>>158131971
I fought a guy who played 3 pegasi in AA0 in his first turns

he didnt win
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>>158133038
Very playable
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>>158133038
You need to reroll at least 40 different accounts to get a single legendary and then spend close to $800 for a tier B deck to get started.
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>>158132578
>Haven
>Lightning Behemoth
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>>158133038
no, you can get at least one working deck really quickly if you rollscum it, and even if you dont the game constantly throws free shit at you
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>>158132992
Storm and otk combos. and nothing in between
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is this OP for arena?
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anyone mind helping with a private match daily? code is 20083
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>>158133248
Olivia is pretty good yes
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>>158127210
I think I met the same fucker
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>>158133205
Fucking this
Storm is the worst mechanic ever, and instead of toning it down like Hearthstone, they just keep making it better
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>>158133189
Oops, this one. I got mixed up between the RoB god realm dragons
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>>158133205
Control Sword has no combo and storms are used for trading except against dshift because they have nothing to trade into.

Erika is the savior of shadowverse
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>>158132393
The sinergy man.

i had more 2 tsubakis and a lot of ambush things
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>>158133248
Notice how you already won, dumbfuck.

Christ sometimes I wonder how the arena pool can be so bad that I consistently go 4+ but then faggots like this post and I realise nobody thinks about their deck or plays one fucking bit.

>hurr olivia is OP it won me a game I had already won xD
BRA-FUCKING-VO SHITTER.
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>>158133562
Good game anon - I have handful of removals but was desperately hoping for my petrification
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>>158133548
Are we just going to ignore Erika's deck based entirely on bum-rushing with storm?
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>>158133486
Devourer of Heavens is the name
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>>158133548
Fill the board on curve is not saving,
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>>158133642
96130 still open for private Take twos if anyone is interested
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>>158133567
are you alright anon
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>>158133660
You just described at least one deck from every class except Rune which has a different kind of unfair, so yes.

At least Erika can play honestly if you choose to.
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>>158132992
The game itself is well made in more ways than one, like the gameplay and the pack model being generous, but if the game is to last then they have to prove they are capable of balancing the game and not powercreeping like every motherfucking Japanese piece of shit card game dev (physical and digital).

Too early to tell but I personally believe that the meta is diverse enough. Not saying aspects of it can't be fixed or that it's perfect but I have seen a lot worse
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>>158133801
I'm irritated at people posting braindead take 2 shit here.
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>>158133802

Forest is pretty fair too. You just have to clear their tokens and you are good.
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>>158133769
>fighting for the board without going face is also cancer

literally what do you guys want then? ignoring the board and going face is cancer, fighting for the board is cancer, do you just want your opponents to have a deck of 40 fighters?
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>>158133486
I tried it as a 1-of in storm but I didn't like it, too slow. Turned it a barrage and I'm happier for it.
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>>158133787
How do i join private games?
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>>158133802
So can Haven and Rune
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Want to learn how to play blood on arena: 69687
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>>158133969
go to multi then private match then select join
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>>158133567
Chill, dude.
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>>158133969
Go to multi, pick private match and input the room ID. I am in match now but will continue to play for about another hour or until everyone leaves me alone.
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>>158133989
Earth Rite can't actually compete against the strongest decks though, sadly.

And while I have no problem with Heal Haven, you don't have to look far for people bitching about it.
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Need private match fampaitachi, ID: 40880
Play it out if you want.
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>>158133918
The guy was bitching about Storm and OTK and Roach/PtP falls into both of them, so at least by that metric, it's not an "honest" deck at all.
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>>158133969
>>158134154
OK, thanks. Is there a watch option as well?
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>>158133939
>board control
Playing 5 cost card when you have 5 mana and so on, is too simple.

Also, filling the board to go face with whatever lives until the next turn is not really control. Or trade and replace losses to face even better next turn,
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>>158133939
Only fair deck in the game tbqh.
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>>158134345
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>>158134164
I was thinking more about Seraph Haven
But still Heal Haven is an honest deck, people jsut don't like losing. It's probably Storm Haven shitters complaining and thank god for that
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Dear lord, control sword is a joy to play, stabilizing at 1 hp and hoping the guy doesn't topdeck a garuda is fun. Exiling a Aria that's about to pop with Odin is orgasmic.
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>elite urias
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>>158134029

I've got some pretty lucky draws btw.
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>>158134421
I don't think you've actually played the deck before anon.

I almost never have time to actually start attacking face until late in the game because you're trying to hold onto the board. The deck is chock-full of removal and relies on out-valuing an opponent until they run out of cards while you don't with your superior draw engine. If that's not control, what is?

and you can't even always play certain things on curve against aggression just because you have to balance out tempo with making sure you have a ward up at all times against aggressive decks. If you drop an Aurelia instead of White Paladin on 5 against Sprint Haven's swing turn for example, you're probably going to get fucked.
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>>158134345
Thank you much, Forte.
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>>158134931
shrug
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>>158134935
That's a grinder deck. Just like earth. Or guardian sun.
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>>158134385
You should be able to go to multi-private-spectate-and then put in the private room number to watch.
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>>158134739
Just yesterday we had someone claiming that the game needs every class to have a cheaper and more flexible version of odin that is effective against all decks to counter seraph, so you don't have to look far to find people whining about seraph either.

>>158135383
Guardian Sun was a control deck though. Earth rite isn't just because they have no good win condition, unlike Guardian Sun with Satan and Leo/Olivia with Sword. Now you could run Olivia in Earth Rite, but their draw engine isn't nearly as good.

What would you consider a control deck in SV then anon?
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>>158125790
>>
so I want to try playing some heal haven and this is what I made so far, advice is welcome
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.63_oY.63_oY.63_oY.60COQ.60COQ.60COa.60COa.60COa.67qgu.67qgu.67qgu.67st2.67st2.61KvW.61KvW.61KvW.67v3q.67v3q.67v3q.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y.61O4U.61O4U.67sO6.67sO6.67sO6.6477S.645Pw.645Pw.60Bfi.60Bfi.61SDy.61SDy
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>>158135612
People whining about Seraph means fucking nothing, the deck is completely fair. Too fair in fact.
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>>158135612
Honestly, I think that SV, just like HS, are too simple to have a control deck. Because you don't actually have control, you just refill followers and smash them against each other. Or use spells that are basically the same.

I mean, imagine if swing was a 2 attack rush that died right after attacking and didn't take a place.
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>>158135749
you're gonna need 3 themises.

Heal Haven's main weakness is most of their followers don't do anything when they hit the board, so you're going to end up on the backfoot in tempo way too often.

>>158135806
I agree anon, but there's nothing you can complain about in Control Sword. What could someone possibly bitch about? Playing wards?

>>158135986
I get what you mean anon, but that's just playing with semantics at this point isn't it? You know what people mean when they refer to control decks in this game, a slow value-oriented deck heavy on removal with a strong game-ending win condition.
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>>158135749
Faggot
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>>158136157
rude
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>>158135806
It just shits on control decks in the same way DShift happens to so people are bound to complain when their slow late-game deck suddenly gets popped from someone who (correctly) hoarded all their countdown reductions for one turn. The difference being an amulet needs to stick on the board for a turn so Odin can stop them whereas DShift just happens.

Personally, I'm happy playing Earth Rite where I can just Petrify them away. Feels good.
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>>158125790
Earth Rite + Erasmus is pretty fun in a sense of boring your opponent out.
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>>158136143
Well, not really. No terrains, artefacts, modifiers, etc that allow one to control the board itself.

I mean, you get to affect how many followers the opponent has after he finishes his turn, but that's it.
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>>158136523
And, yeah, I know. They are still grinders though.
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>>158135119

That was fun. Thanks a lot.
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We could make some rules for /svg/ take a two private.

When you win a duel you need to create another take2 deck.

This could work right?
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>>158136378
>It just shits on control decks in the same way DShift happens to
Not even remotely. DShift has no counterplay the turn its dropped.
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I think this is the best take 2 deck I've ever drafted. Every game felt E-Z and I didn't feel under pressure at any point. Played sword sword sword dragon shadow too.

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/7?hash=2.7.640Ho.640Hy.5zWmC.60BfY.63_oi.67qgu.67qgu.60C8o.67qQo.65CDA.63_os.67sNo.67stC.67v3q.63_pA.642FG.642FG.67pxs.67pxs.659nE.642F6.642F6.67pyA.67sO6.642G2.67uqM.65922.60Bfi.61SDy.67xlY
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>>158136523
>>158136649
Like I said, I know what you mean anon, but it's just being needlessly technical about it

again, you're right in a way, but it's like going into a group of people where you know exactly what they're referring to when they say control and going "TECHNICALLY those are grinder decks"

don't be that guy.
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>>158136660
Thanks, sword is just really bad without 1 drops
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>>158135712
I can't stop grinning. This made my night
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>>158136764
Well, that doesn't make it right. There's just no difference between grinder and control in SV.
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Migrate

>>158136940


>>158136940


>>158136940
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>>158124930
500 for a title.
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>>158136764
I agree with that other Anon. SV doesn't have true control the same way HS doesn't. In fact, HS is closer to achieving control due to how their games work.

Applying MTG terms to these e-card games doesn't work tơ well.
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>>158127542
>No "good luck im behind 7000 skeletons" in Shadowcraft
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>>158125790
>Bannersmemes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gev2_itXNZ0
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>>158133567

lol kys
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>>158139359
Brave dudes, charging in comradery but don't think Bannermemes would want to be associated with those who dare slay their King, a ruler blessed by the divine in order to rule over the citizens
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