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Previously on /tosg/: >>157989060

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=693

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
Crimson (Jinsae)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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/Bullies/ when?
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Soft peltasta boobies!
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Party questing with Templar C2 and Buff Sharing Cloaking. Comfy times and, surprisingly, I was able to Buff Share to non-guildie party members.
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Help me with swordie build

SwordC1-HLC1-BarbC3-DoppelC3
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/yc9s8wgekr/

Need help with stats too. Dex:str:con rates?
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>>158067668
just make an archer instead, easier and you can kirito the entire game
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>>158067776
I got a 119 Archer atm. It's like ArcherC1 RangerC3. What do?
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So homunculi aren't craftable even in ktos.
How is this even remotely acceptable.
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>>158067668

100 dex -> 20 con -> 200 dex -> 50 str -> 50 con ->rest dex till the last drop

basically 1:1:5(+leftovers)
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How fast is truffle grinding?
I'm almost level 200, things are instant-killing me and I need to reach R7 to save myself
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>>158068115
What the fuck is the list of ingredients needed to make them?
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>>158068561
It fully matters on your party, you can get a shit one. Then spend hours just for a single level, or an extremely fast efficient party, and clear out a level within an hour.
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>>158068627
All you goy need to know is that it requires a Yekubite Crystal or several Yekubite Teeth, which aren't in game yet.
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>>158068537
Don't listen to this at all. Go read the forums.
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>>158068889
>1 level
>Fastest is 1 level per hour

I'd better start another character
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>>158069263
ACTUALLY THEY FIXED EXP TOMES AND TOKEN BONUSES SO IT TAKES WAY LESS TIME NOW
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About the Crossguard discussion at the end of the last thread:

You need good ping/reflexes to make Crossguard work but it'll only work against physical bosses. If you CAN make it work, it's an amazing skill if you've got the STR and a lot of skill points in it.
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>>158069439
You were right until the last part. You don't need more than 1 point in it on endgame.
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>>158069439
Actually I worded that wrong: it'll only be useful against bosses unless you want to act like a Pelt/Rode holding C.
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>>158067983
Fletcher 3 Mergen
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>>158066383
Work on getting Rhevisan bracelets
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Which guild on Klaipedia is the comfiest?
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>>158069824
The dead ones
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>>158069553
3 points if you're H1 anyway, because you got the points and it will give 50 physical defense with the attribute and all extra you can get helps
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>>158070179
If H1, sure.
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>>158070095
Oh, okay.
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>>158070545
Just messing with you (not really), they're all pretty comfy
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Um will Dragoon make my cataphract's damage be not horrible?
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>>158071578
Nope, should have gone Hoplite C3 instead.
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>>158070695
I see.
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>>158071682
But I wanted to go fast
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>it's a case of a 120k health mob that is immune to stuns, is plate, high defense, high crit resistance and shits out 2k magic attacks
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>>158071879
The only class allowed to have fun in this game is Cleric. As the other classes we have to choose between fun and viability.
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>>158072259
B-But dethrone
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>>158072259
This.
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Uhmmm, where can I find cute cleric(males)?
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>>158073069
You can have this one.
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>>158073069
>>158073198
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>>158073069
this boy cleric is extra cute because he used to be a girl
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>>158073198
>>158073280
Uhmm, boys should not be wearing collars
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Uhmmmposters will be destroyed
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Does anyone have a cataphract and been experiencing a lot of frame stuttering recently? I just wanted to make a pvp character to play with friends but I can barely walk all of a sudden.
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>>158073713
fuck off retard
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>>158073389
true
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>>158073830
D-do not lewd boys...
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/uhmmmm/ when?
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Wugu?
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>the Jewell alt that uses hook64 to force people into his party at bees is in Diamond's dummy guild for GvG exploiting

As expected, they didn't even kick KidGarden when we outed him in public
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>>158073995
ikr
boys need luv
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>>158073995

>Wear bunny costume out of memory of my sad childhood and ability to never have a bunny pet of my own
>Girls see this as an excuse to bully me or try to corrupt my innocence

Being bunny boy is hard life.
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>>158075128
I use it as a reason to treat you cute!
It's not my fault your mind is so lewd that you think everything I do is dirty!
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>it's cock hungry slut hour again
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>>158074668
What I like about censors is I can imagine it's pegging and not futa.
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>>158075291

I don't know who you are, but no one treats me cute. I'm just a plaything for girls.
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Downloading game. What am I in for?
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>>158076438
a game
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>>158075639
I'm the girl you gave armor to because you felt bad for, and then kissed you!
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>>158076438
Tree of Clerics, feat. Swordsmen.
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>>158076535

So you admit to being lewd and trying to corrupt me!
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>>158076475
Oh sweet.
>>158076536
Nice.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141669gg.1a284a5161.15243145.2a4a5575.152535.1a27314a5161

Is it okay? No bully please.
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>>158076438

Wonder.

As in, you're going to wonder why the fuck people play this game.
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>>158076794
It was not lewd!
It was a gentle show of affection and appreciation!
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So what are the exact chances of getting practonium from that mystery box?

It's almost been a week and i haven't gotten jack shit
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>>158077752
People exploited theirs.
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>>158077752

It's not super rare. Just a guess based on the few people I know who got practonium but I'd say somewhere around a 10% chance, maybe a bit more.
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who cataphract here
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At 275 I can just jump from zone to zone and get max level now right? Like from exploration?
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>>158077975
I was playing one, but there's a weird fps stutter when moving so it's too insufferable
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>>158077986
>275
>get max level
>Like from exploration
probably end up 32x or near 320. quest cards will get you to cap. but use exp addon/websites to make sure
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>>158077986

No.

Cards can take you from 280 to about 295 and once you hit 300 they can take you to about 315.
You'll probably go from 275 to like 292 or so. Got to quest or grind to 300 for level 14 cards to become usable.

This only lasts until this event is over though (so until Tuesday).

Right now, if you do every new map in the game, explore fully and all quests, there is just barely enough exp from cards to get you from 280 to 330.
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Are the Musketeer C2 skills any good? Seems like the C2 attributes are better than the actual C2 skills.
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>>158077986
Started at around 275 too, at 324. Only did the first floor of cavern of archer/caster hell quests but explored 4/5 out of and explored every other zone. Only other quests I didn't do were the ones behind bosses, most of which I couldn't solo. No real point to card beyond 325 though, just slowly accrue xp over time.
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Hi, I played around the first week of release but some stuff made it impossible for me to continue. I'm archer2 > ranger1 > scout1 with 23str/68dex invested. Is this beyond saving or what? I don't really remember what I was going for.
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This fucking nigger
>755 ~ 865 matk
>240 int
>poison element
>hits for 1200 through 400 m.def
>casts every 1.5 seconds

this isn't even the R8 content

fuck every fucking map north of Fedimian

I can't fucking wait for the R8 maps, at least by then I'll have R8 because these fucking R7 skills can't kill these niggers before I've lost 6k health to one of these and I just killed 90x of these niggers for the count, alone, as a swordie, IV-tripping HP pots
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>>158078779
Looks like you were going for the meta Fletcher C3 build. You're still fine, just go Fletcher C3 Mergen and keep pumping DEX.
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>>158078796

Once you hit rank 8, double those numbers, triple the hp and quadruple the damage.
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>>158078796
By the time you're R8, similar enemies have around 300-400k hp and 1600 atk or matk
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>>158078906
should i not have added any str? what exactly is this build good for?
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So Dragoon 2 really is the only option after Cataphract, isn't it?
I mean it's double fucking damage and low cooldown ICBM versus a bit of PvP minigame utility.
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>>158078796
>I'll have R8 because these fucking R7 skills can't kill these niggers before I've lost 6k health to one of these

You still won't be able to because of the rate they fire at and them being particularly aggressive.
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>>158079060
>guy literally stands on his dick
>1 624 ~ 1 856 matk (will hit 2.1k per hit)
>296 int
>182 802 health
>Earth element

this guy has almost the same amount of health as the faggot above but yes twice the damage

however only 100 more physical defense

I really need to upgrade my weapon

but there's no good weapons for all classes between Catacomb shit and the new 315 shit which sucks hard
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>>158079267
Fletcher has short CDs and really good single target damage. Mergen has longer CDs and really good AoE.
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>>158079619
That's just his staff, tosgbase puts enemy models and any additional model they use at the same origin. You can toggle the meshes to see.
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>>158079619
weak fucker tho
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>>158079619

That's literally one of the tamest mage mobs in the game.

Just wait until you're running into the ones with 400k hp that can hit for 10k+ damage.
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>>158079665
Mergen aoe is only reliable with linker or falconer in party. However, it's only C1 and as filler burst it works pretty well.
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>>158079894
none of the mobs i've looked at have 10k magic attack

most likely your level played a part because you were exploring in high level maps
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I should buy and use a token before my current one expires, right? To stack up my trade counts?
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>>158080109

Mobs don't literally do their matk as damage. It's multiplied by various factors. I can go to a mage mob 20 levels lower than me and get hit for 5k+ damage right now.
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>>158080109
That's just the base dmg. It goes through skills and multipliers.

Not that guy, but there's mobs that will easily do 5~10k+ a hit at same level on r8 maps.
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>>158079538
>a bit of PvP minigame utility.
Dragoon2 is pretty much the best PvP build too with dethrone
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>>158080340
fuck
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>>158080459

The thing is though, to negate a mobs damage, you basically need defence equal to or greater than it's attack.

If a mob has 1500 magic attack and you have above this magic defence, you'll take 1 damage from it anyway.

That being said, unless you use a sword + shield (both 315 ones with like 330 mdef each), lots of nuaele cards and enchanter buffs, you probably can't get that much mdef.
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>So Kim how do we want to do damage reduction from gear and resistances? Just a standard percent based mitigation, or-
>YOU EITHER GET HIT LIKE A FUCKING DUMP TRUCK OR STACK ENOUGH DEFENSE TO TAKE 1 DAMAGE, THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN
Thanks Kim
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>>158081107
Optimized Korean balancing!
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>>158081107
Armor does give % based mitigation
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>>158080825

What this really seems like is we are lacking heavily in a buff like Aspersio, but for magic. Magic damage is by far the most annoying thing in this game because there's no blocking it, evading it or even moving out of the way or kiting. It's just fucking bullshit. Why haven't they given say alchemists a potion you can craft that works just like Aspersio?

Enchanters 10% or 20% magic def buffs are absolute garbage unless you already have an insane amount.
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>>158081107
Kim is a genius!
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>>158081342
>we are lacking heavily in a buff like Aspersio, but for magic
There is one
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/40808/
Party up.
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>>158081342

Enchanter gives 5% mdef, to 3 pieces of gear, total of 15%.

Which is shit when you consider Clerics can give like +52% defence.
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Silver Hawk or Aufgowle Bow?
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>>158080825
SPR heavy pardoner with barrier scrolls can give 1k mdef to party.
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>>158081581
Bow if mergen
Silver Hawk if hacka/sr/cannon
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>>158080168
I dont think trade counts are even a thing anymore but you should buy a token if its cheap
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>>158081550
Oh yeah, there's also http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/20506/
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>>158081632

The only Pardoners I ever see are the ones in town selling buffs.

Honestly never seen an actual person playing the Pardoner class.
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>>158078308
Please respond.
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>>158081739
Because Pardoner is a 1 circle wonder. MDef buff, debuff extend, and an AoE cure.
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>>158081905

And yet the only way people play it is by plonking it down in town to sell some buffs.
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>>158082003
Popular perception that a shop class is not a viable Pv_ class.
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What are the items you can get from the 290 dungeon?
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The spark is gone
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>>158082190

Enchanter sure as shit isn't.
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hi, if im going fletcher 3 do i need any str or should i reroll
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>>158082280
the 315 purple weapon recipes and talt
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>>158082440
You want around 30-50 str, or spr for the block pen. But anymore, and you are really not doing yourself any favors.
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>>158082440
full str just take rogue and u 100% crit from behind easy mode archer make millions just get werewolf cards basically unkillable 100% with 900 physical attack without weapon kill shit with bare hands throwing arrows archer always overpowered just hold auto attack and pretend you're skilled
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What's this everyone saying that archer bows should be at least +10, unless it will suffer damage penalties?
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>>158078308

Not really, but musketeer 2 as a whole is really strong with covering fire 10 and the butt stroke attribute that doubles all your musket skill damage.
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>>158082783
That was an older version of the game. Missile damage was a slight reduction against all monster sizes, which was mitigated as the bow was improved.

The way it works now is that missle attacks apply a stacking pDef reduction, so as long as you keep on a target your damage will creep up.
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>>158082783
missile is the worst damage type
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How much STR do you need for Cross Guard to be useful?

>>158082783
It's a thing from iCBT2. You don't have to upgrade bow weapons anymore, but as an archer it's still in your interest to do so. At least +5, +10 is more or less ideal.
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>>158082368
Maybe they'll be able to enchant accessories to make up for it.
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if i were to hire a scout to help me explore Timerys Temple 100% what would be a reasonable amount to pay? im linker3 so i have spiritual chain
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What are some good things that up fire defense? Ice and dark are already covered by equips, but fire enemies are the other big annoying one.
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>>158084005
You'd need to pay me with "that".
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Is it better to RMT some silver or get hook subscription?
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>>158084197
that?
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has jtos saved this game with quality art?
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>>158084350
Whisper Beethoven.
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>>158082930
How is Volleyfire as a single target damage ability? It seems pretty good with buttstroke.
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How do you use Limacon with a mouse setup? It's infuriating. You can't even bind sub weapon attack to the right mouse button.
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>>158080825
Fuck that, here's how you get high mdef:

Step 1: Roll Cryo/Thaum2, more ranks in Cryo and Thaum can be taken if so desired
Step 2: Get a high level shield, preferably the new one with 300 something mdef and enhance it to 15+
Step 3: Transcend it to +275% def
Step 4: Get 8 lvl10 Nuaele cards
Step 5: Enchant your top/bottom/shield for a total of 15% more mdef
Step 6: Cast Swell Right Arm with maxed attributes

And there ya go, you're a walking tank that takes 1 dmg from everything except Blood Curse and Dethrone.
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>>158084005
I'll help you for free!
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>>158085276
I always forget that swell right arm gives you like 200 mdef with a shield, thats actually so neat
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Holy shit I just thought of something: can enchanter's Empowering skill be used to help reach lvl requirements for dungeon entry?
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>>158085676
It's 360 physical and magic defense. Pretty fuckin' amazing. Too bad no one plays Thaum, it's just so hard to fit in when you're required to have Wizard C3 in every single Wizard build.
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>Transcend
Can someone spoonfeed me how it works?
Can I choose which effect I want -- or is it random?
Can I transcend hats?
etc.
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>>158086164
Wiz3Thaum3FF2 :^)
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>>158085276
>Step 3: Transcend it to +275% def
dont think you even need that. good jewels with some + will do
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>>158086175
transcending is like refining things except on a different value.

So refining a weapon makes it have more patk/matk

refining armor gives you CON

refining boots gives you evasion etc

And no you cant transcend hats
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>>158086310
All right, thanks.
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>>158086310
err transcending a weapon* etc
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>>158086236
I was actually considering this when we get that OP Fire necklace.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122aa2gg.1123354551.1e315a657f.1a3a445165.1a2a7185
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>Get some recipes from 290
>Will never be able to make them
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>>158086513
the 290 recipes arent so bad, Practonium is just RNG. Farm the crystal missions for a few weeks and you'll get enough crystal
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>Just started playing.
>Nobody to get comfy with and talk to while leveling.
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>>158086618
>Practonium is just RNG

That box disappears after you get your Practonium.
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>>158086813
Roll alts
Do Fantasy Library
Do 330 Demon Lords
:^)
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>>158087058
I like how nobody will do the new demon lords because nobody will do the new demon lords. Lazy fucks don't want to show up till it's halfway dead so it never gets done.
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It's getting harder and harder to explain to my friends why I'm still playing this.
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>>158087321
More like you need your red weapon for DPS and parties with 90%+ uptime invicibility for doing 433m HP boss hitting 50k with magic AoE
Not to mention these boss seems to drop blue shit too in their 700k 99% talt chance cube
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>>158087507
>tfw my guild leader in another mmo was asking me why I still play this 2/10

Set me free
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>>158087507
I've passed the point of no return
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>>158086375
Pyro2/3 is worthless with Linker2/3. The only way to make a Pyro2/3 that's viable without Linker2/3 is by going Pyro3/Chrono3/Enchanter. Pyro is REALLY bad without Linker and Pyro without Linker but with Sage is a fucking joke. Fireballs are only good for killing single targets and that's assuming the melee don't knock your Fireballs away on bosses.
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>>158087803
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>>158086375

You need a level of Linker somewhere if you go Pyro or Featherfoot. Additionally, Featherfoot pretty much requires Wizard 2 (though if you're going Wizard 2, you may as well go Wizard 3).

You can't realistically go Pyromancer and Featherfoot, it just doesn't work well.
If you want Pyro then go linker into Enchanter (a rank of Thaumaturge works wonders too).
If you want Featherfoot then it's Wiz 3, Thaumaturge, Linker and Featherfoot 2 (thaum 2 for PVP, linker 2 for PVE).
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>>158087803
what's your mmr
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>playing this game alone

lol
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>Use to get asked by someone to do stuff, sometimes even dragged along
>Recently they've just been going off on their own, haven't asked me in ages if I want to do something

I don't know if it's just that my build is bad, or they just don't want to play with me anymore.

I miss doing stuff with people.
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Whats so good about FF2?
Why is Kirito looking for one?
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>>158087803
I feel like that many hours in dota to be more questionable than ToS somehow
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>>158088549
>hi (Not You)
>hi (Not You)

>don't type anything
>no one even knows you're there
>feel guilty because it's your own fault
>don't say anything because of guilt

>hi (Not You)
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>>158088642

Insanely good in PVP. Not sure why you'd want one for PVE though. They're not bad at it but not exactly great either.
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>>158088307
It works fine, all you really miss out on is being able to use Blood Sucking on archers and casters. If you need the healing you can use Sleep or Fire Pillar. With FF2, 1 or 2 ticks of Blood Sucking after Hangman's Knot is all you need for a full heal. Agni's going to make the build a lot smoother, too.

>but you can't kill high mdef mobs
Ngadhundi doesn't care.
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>>158088642
Probably some bug abusing shit again
Lolipan should go and report back
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>>158088745
Great for soloing, amazing self-sustain, damage is ok, will be great when we get the skills to poison change, easy access to decay which can pair well with Swell Body and most importantly: great costume.
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>>158088762

I have ranks in Pyro and Featherfoot. It doesn't work fine. It has way too much situational damage and without linker you end up constantly running into mobs where half of your abilities are useless or just not very effective.

You'll still benefit massively from Wizard 3 as Featherfoot. Blood Sucking is insanely good and only being able to use it once every 2 minutes is shit.
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Praise Capyba
CA-PY-BA
CA-PY-BA
CA-PY-BA
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>>158088745
>>158088950

None of these are reasons to have them on the same level as dragoon2, musket2, fencer3 for a dungeon that requires dps checks
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>>158088549
>>158088567
>most friends I play with ded/quit
>no one to carry my dead weight
>all chars too behind or far to run stuff with guild/tosg
being a kirito isn't so bad
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>>158089085
He should drop this shit desu
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>>158089151

How tough is the DPS check on the 315 dungeon? I really want to try it but my build is shit and until Agni Necklace is released I don't deal much damage.
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>>158088715
lolwut
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>>158089301
There's a video of a single Doppel just beating every DPS check like it's nothing. I wish I was kidding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qYfBjI3IYE

shit to note
>he is mediocre funded
>pass and new serpentine debuff are his only supporters
>his weapon is only 30% transcended Gale Slasher

Here's his vid on his gear, don't remember if he shows his attributes in this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ITch2aNWdc

He is bad also. He doesn't properly stack both slash debuffs along with the Serpentine.

His Chrono uses Pass at the wrong time aka when still one overcharge left.

He only uses Cyclone to DPS.

He's mediocre player at best, but funded by guild / friends.
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>>158089231
>Guild bring you along even though you're 100 levels below them
>They all say they bring you because they think you're good luck
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>>158089694
>mediocre funded
Have you seen his items, attributes and gear?
He has more networth than all your characters combined x 10
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>>158089929

I caught a glimpse of his stats. Dude has like 5k attack and 3k magic attack.

That's not medicore funded.
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>>158087803
thats less time than I've spent
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Hi! I'm LeCreme!
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>>158088642
>He expects Kirito to make logical decisions.
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>There people seriously grinding Maven Abbey at lv 280 and looking for 275-280 people
I seriously hope you arent one of these time wasters retards
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>>158089231
As long as your personality isn't as obnoxious as Swaaz people will still carry bring you along to stuff. Just make some friends!
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>>158090095
Kirito has achieved with hard work and dedication (autism) more than anyone else in /tosg/

He's a real fucking tryhard and you guys don't hold a candle to him

He still sucks in mechanics of gameplay and he's a stupid manchild wasting his life away at this game but he's still a better ToS player than anyone of you
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>>158089929
He doesn't show his attributes so it's hard to tell. Is he hiding them or just not showing them out of shame?

All of his gear is like 30m. Some of us have spend more on our attributes. The most expensive shit he has is the Sissels and his Lolopanther is still written as untradeable so he's gotten those by farming, not buying.
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>>158090219

I'm trying to be friends with[ spoiler]Murbish[/spoiler].

It's tough.
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>>158090302
You'll regret wanting to be friends with a narcissistic shitposter
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>>158090168
I'm at 274 without R8. I have no cards left. What should I do anon? I can't use the new cards from new maps until I grind that one last level.

So? Your argument? I've even done kill counts man. Admit it. You're not completely in the right here!

Shut the fuck up I need these faggots to grind so I can get my last level with them!
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>>158090291
No he showed them in a different video maybe
I'm not watching that one
But I saw his shit he got like 90% in cyclone and everything else really high too except the r8 skills which were just at 50
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>tfw friends doesn't want to play the game
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>>158090394
grind timerys :)
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>>158090302
>[ spoiler]Murbish[/spoiler].
why are you so stupid? threejane
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can i play as a lewd titty witch
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>>158090523
Yes
hat not included
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>>158090354
Murbish doesn't even post on tosg anymore
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>>158090523
whisper Murbish
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>>158090523
gross
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>>158090394
Anon 274 is Abbey grind level but these faggots just look specifically for other 280s like them for no reason at all other than them being retards
Do lv11 cards killcounts, not even all of them, Grynas maps and thaumats to Abbet maps killcounts are easy to solo, Igity and Evac, Workshop too
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>>158090562
prove it
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>>158090302
3jane please.......
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>>158090639
just solo Maven at R8, its so easy when your skills are designed to kill monsters with 300k HP and the EXP still goes great straight to 290
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Linker3Chrono3

Full STR
yay/nay?
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>>158090449
So he doesn't grind his silver. Go read the YouTube comments. Someone asked him "where did you get your Glass Mole" and he doesn't know, he just replies "I bought them".

It's pretty fucking obvious it's a guy who either has spend hundreds or close to a thousand bucks vendoring tokens to the server, or he just bought the account and/or items with RMT. He is so terrible and his skill build is terrible too. He is as carried as can be too. He completely ignores the 2 overcharge new Doppel C3 skill, because he's a moron.

He even comments that 145 now gives 200k silver. As if he even does it at all. The guy is a walking joke. Just imagine if a competent player was behind that character.

Also he lied on the forums about his stat build for ages saying it was STR focused and when he posted this video a lot of people got pissed. It's on the forums. It's fucking hilarious drama. People are attacking him for "misleading" them. Go have a peek, it's like at the bottom of the thread of "STR vs DEX" discussion where he goes all apeshit on ego and everything.

Guy is a total tool.
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>>158090487
>>158090705

I don't even know who this 3jane person is.
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>>158090227
With RMT you mean. This is the guy who rolled an Elememe when R8 was being announced and 330'd it making and transcending the 315 Staff before realizing his uselessness.
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>>158090227
t. Beethoven
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>>158090748
Yeah but he's not "mediocre" funded
That's well funded already

I'd kill to have a doppel with that gear
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>>158090896
If you had that character, there'd be very little point in playing anymore. If you were as funded as him you'd just spend your time idling in town because why bother running a dungeon for loot when you already have everything?

He's gotten his carrot. He's now just going on an ego trip before anyone else can, because he has the RMT to do it.

I want to see his attributes.
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>>158090731
Yes
Give that STR to your DEX Doppel
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I heard Koenig came back?
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>>158091030
Does tosg have any dex doppels?
I never see anyone play on doppel from the guilds here
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I'm new in this game tell me a good guild to join.
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>>158089231
i'm sure your guild would still love to do stuff with you, anon. just mention it! if not then it sounds like you are in the wrong guild.

in my guild we do stuff all the time with lower leveled people!
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>>158091169
Do not (not) join Ohayou
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>>158091247
Why?
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>>158091312
Cancer of guild see voxtranny and 3jane
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Would this work? Zornhau goes up a lot at max level and the new attribute makes it do 300% more damage. Even if it is a fake hit, that's a lot if you look at the base damage of 4k, meaning 12k with a 15 second cooldown. The new skills can go as high as 7k and 6k, one ignoring defense by 350 (most mobs at 330 have like 500 defense).

I think I will try this after getting all the Deep Cut attributes and resetting.

I fucking wish skill reset was just silver and not fucking TP.
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Is this an accurate depiction of that Orsha shitposter?
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=59102269
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>>158091118
There's a few on Fedimian.
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>>158091073
He was on for a bit. Came back might be a stretch though.
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>>158091518
>deeds lvl 15
you like to live dangerously, dont you?
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>>158091518
Redel deals more damage than Zornhau and is an actual multi hit iwht modifiers
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>>158090970
>>158090896
Anyone who has been playing from Early Access should have that amount of gear by now. The Lolopan plate gear can also be replaced by a Virtov leather/Shade set netting you more damage. The only problem is the attribute costs, the Practonium and the transcendence cubes.
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>>158091627
are you implying that you shouldnt max dov? lmao
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>>158091649
Well the build has it. I mean the base damage increase per skill point is like 150 per skill? Maxed out it would be 1k. I hear it's 8 to 10 hits with the attribute? So I guess you'd be losing on 10k damage there? From the base. But even at level 1 with the attribute it still would do the hits, just minus the base bonus.

I think you might be right though. I'm not sure. Too tired for math.
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>>158091757
Just getting Cyclone to 50% is like 3m and getting Zornhau, Redel and Zucken to 50% is like 9m, not to mention new Deep Cut attributes are like 1m each, Zornhau needing 3m.

Just to be adequete you need 13m in attributes alone for your simple rotation.

This faggot has them at 90% which is insane. His gear is not that impressive. BiS sure for most parts but with like 20m you'd get what he has by running ET a few times. 5 days of Saalus is one gem for enhancing so you'd need to run Saalus for 10 days straight to reach his 30% transcendence.
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>>158091790
thing is 4k isnt that big for a one off skill, for you to choose a burst skill over a multi hit with modifiers, the burst skill base should be higher than 10k (see Dethrone), if that 4k crits for 12k, Redel's hits would hurt more than that if 2-3 of the individual hits crits
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>>158092060
the attribute increases Zornhau by 300% bringing it to 12k base damage, basically Dethrone level of burst with no overcharge though, but it's long range and 15 sec CD
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>>158091169
cute is nice

t. cute member
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>>158091118
My guild has 2
One is 320 and i do Library with him in my not optimized magic DPS orienter party,not from /tosg/ though, its really strong and decently founded.
If only he wouldn't crash every 2 minutes of intense action....
The other is levelling and in Abbey right now
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>>158091781
lvl 10 Deeds already keep you from soloing anything archer or mage, I dareth not think what might happen when getting hit at lvl 15.
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>>158092004
If you think thats a lot you should see how much I spent on my Elememe.
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>>158092149
hmmm. I must admit I'm a bit 50/50 now too, lets see if some math anon can do the calculations for us

>>158092305
Do you even play doppel anon? there is no difference between level 10 and 15 deeds except for 50% more damage.

retard commenting on doppel builds without evne playing them again
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>>158092303
>mfw lycan deals more damage than dragoon 2

imagine a lycan buffed by serpentine
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>>158092369
the only problem some have said is that the attribute makes Zornhau into a fake multihit, meaning it will be capped 199,999

Redel wouldn't be capped as much since it's 8 to 10 hits so the potential is higher there, but how often will we hit cap with hits yet?
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>>158092303
whenever I try to record anything in this game it fucking goes down to 15 FPS and the recording looks horrible

what am I doing wrong?

>>158092360
I also have an elememe and dumped probably 10 to 20m on DT alone and got FC to 75%, I know
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>>158092517
as a doppel probably never, the whole class isnt about dealing one huge burst, but doing it hit by hit, current highest cap we have for cyclone is 80k crits
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>>158092465
Are you DEX Lycan? My INT Lycan does nice damage but of course my Dragoon does more than it
Also my Dragoon isnt that amzingly founded in attributes, everything is at +50% and these are plate monsters
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>>158092626
yeah, what I ate about lycan is how its only strong now, sucks that we dont get attributes for wolf form, like buffing all 4 skills by 1% but 4x the price
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>>158090835
>>158091004
Nah
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>>158092589
Stop using the shitty integrated video recorder
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What skills does shinobi clones work with?
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>>158092589
>what am I doing wrong?
Stop being retarded
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>>158092992
all the shitty ones
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archer2 > ranger1 > scout > ??? > mergen
help please!
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>>158093381
Fletcher 3.
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>>158093381
Fletcher3
Do you even have to ask?
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>>158093381
wugu
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>>158093407
>>158093426
thanks! what about stat build?
>>158093432
wugu for all three ranks?
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>>158093563
fletcher 3 for all 3 ranks
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is Katzenberg still alive?
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>>158093407
>>158093426
>>158093563
>Not going Scout3 Falconer1
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>>158066793
>Crimson (Jinsae) still in OP
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Well since I fucked up and started in the ded server I'm going to be rerolling in Klaipeda. I'm stuck between rolling a Dragoon or a Fencer. Which one is an easier ride to the top, able to solo content if necessary, etc? What is the more Futureproof option?
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>>158093892
>Ohayou (Beethoven) still in OP
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>>158093956
The more futureproof option is Fencer 3 since we don't know anything about Dragoon 3. And by going Fencer 3, you can get a fresh rank 9 class too.
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>>158093892
problem?

>>158093970
fuck off
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>>158094092
well for starters, Crimson's Templar is Eroc, Jinsae wouldnt even be able to invite anyone
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>>158093956
Why you started in Orsha?
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>>158094121
>implying any guild the Windgod joins is not instantly lead by him because he is the most alpha ever
anon pls
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>>158094206
why didn't Crimson just join FOE then? :^)
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>>158093956
I'm sorry we couldn't be there for you
We did our best with this ride
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>>158094230
because FOE is a dumb name
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could a scout help me explore inner wall district 8 and 9 for a dumpling? district 8 is 95% done and 9 is 75% done.
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>>158092728
I'd much prefer attris to half sp drain or something, it's fucking shit having your sp run out so fast
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>>158094339
Are you linker2?
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>>158094092
Jinsae isn't /tosg/
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>>158094339
If you're on in ten hours, sure.
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>>158094396
Beethoven isn't /tosg/
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>>158094230
FOE infiltrated and conquered Crimson from the inside.
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>>158094395
yes
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>>158094434
>>158094396
nobody is /tosg/

except that cool guy that never posts and nobody knows his name
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>>158093602
fletcher 3 each time, huh
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>>158094459
>conquered
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>>158066793
>Kotastu died too
>no news from Comfy or cute
>Somehow CoffeeHouse is still alive on that dead server of Fedimian
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>>158094526
Nah jinsae is /tosg/
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>>158094564
Cute is still alive, just that our leader is so busy with a special someone now
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>>158094564
Cute never seems to avatarpost in the slightest, but I still see them in-game pretty often.

I'm glad they never avatarpost.
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>>158093696
Sadly Kada is dying but at least Comfy's more alive than ever I guess. 12+ people online at any time and some oldfags returned.
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>mfw I'm the only one left in Varena
>mfw you cant abandon whats already left behind
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>>158094564
Comfy is most definitely alive, we just can't get our monkey to shitposting translators working
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>>158094582
jinsae is not /tosg/
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>>158094739
I switched and started over at Telsiai.
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>>158094817
fuck you wil
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>>158094857
Who?
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>>158094763
Jinsae funded /tosg/
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>>158094857
Who?
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>>158094857
Who?
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>>158094339
Where do you want to meet?
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>>158095026
statue of vakarine at inner wall district 8 is fine. im already there
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preview video of Doppel c3 had Redel doing double its total hits, everywhere I look I see Redel with attributes doing the same hits it did without attributes.

what happened?
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Is this game still shit?
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>>158094564

We tried doing guild raid the other day, shit's bugged. Besides that, there's nothing much to blogpost about. All I'm doing now is trying to explore all of Tehravin Cave by the 25th but keep getting spiral arrowed to death on the 2nd and 4th floor, and that's not very fun. So now we all just shitpost anonymously.

>>158093696

Still alive unfortunately
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>>158095471
Don't die Katz you are the last hope of this general ;_;
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>>158081739
A circle in pardoner is pretty popular with pd2. Otherwise Pardoner is too situational support imo. Clerics cant take advantage of debuff extension on their own besides as pd2, mdef buff is not very good iirc, a circle in priest for resurrection is better than the emergency heal and most people's r5 are taken up by the second or third circle for their class(priest/krivis/diev)
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>>158095306
yes
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>>158086783
Just join a guild, anon.
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What cards are the cards that I can sell for over a mil at level 1?
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>>158095471
Let me tell you about guild raids.
>everyone arrives
>sit there for half an hour wondering why the event won't start
>event starts
>boss takes literally 45 minutes of sustained damage until he finally fucking keels over and dies
>during this time he is constantly covering the entire screen with unavoidable instant cast AOEs
>your reward is ?????????
>everyone goes home dejected and sexually frustrated
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>>158096183
nuaele
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>>158096183
>>158096285
Not even Nuale cards sell for 1m at lv1
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>>158096278
How do you get sexually frustrated?
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What are items that sell for 500k+?
I need large sums of money, not small sums l usually get.
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>>158096278
That's exactly what we need in comfy, there is too much sexual fulfillment going around at the moment
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>>158096183
glass moles maybe
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>>158095471
We haven't done it again after the patch so we aren't sure if it's bugged, but everyone who clicked on Join has to be there to activate it. Also make sure that no one clicks on Join more than once.
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>>158096183
There are no cards worth 1mil at level one. Except for MAYbe demon lord ones and even then the niche for them is tiny
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>>158096602
Then what are the valuable ones and how much are they worth?
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>>158096669
go monitor the market faggot and see what everything is priced at
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>>158096740
>Can't search for "card"
>Don't know the name of every single boss in the game
>No Cards section of market
>Can't even filter by some other type to find cards mixed in, only by all things
Yeah okay, no.
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>>158096602
Demon Lords cards are mostly also bad
Mirtis is Sorc gimmick card but overall TS is better and as card to equip its just one of the worst tier of cards in game
Rexipher is another decent card for Sorc but his attacks seems to be magic so worthless in rank8, his equip effect is just plain terrible like Mirtis so not worth
Helga is mediocre for Sorc and a shitty version of Chappariton card, avoid
Blut effect is +1 CON per star, dont know about his power for Sorc, but unless you can stack 8 lv10 Blut its just not worth
Zaura has no card
Nuale its shit for Sorc but one of the best card to equip in game
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>>158096882
Go fuck yourself then you lazy cunt
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>>158096901
Forgot Marnox but like Zaura he has no card
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>>158096974
>Impossible to do something due to shitty market setup
>lazy
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>>158096882
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>>158097012
At least the game decided to be cool to me. This is still work good money, right?
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>>158096669
Nuaele
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>>158097126
>Having to install 3rd party cheats from questionable sources

>>158097151
*worth
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>>158097212
>not trusting LUA senpai
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>>158096573

What happened was that we began the event, went to Tiltas Valley and there's no X or anything. I thought we were supposed to wait on an X or something.
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What else other than Sapper3 can work for a Falcon3 buid?
Archer3X
Ranger something
Hunter3?
No QS3, i have a Didel GC and all but getting on Marble wild ride too its a nope
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What's the best R7-R8 pick if i want to reroll cleric2/diev3/miko ?
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Reminder this is what new 330 Demon Lords drops
https://tos.neet.tv/items?name=Hasta&ulvlmin=270&f=1
In the age of 100% invicibility uptime or GTFO
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>>158097867
oracle kabba
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>>158098196
what's wrong with it?
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Anons wheres the 315 dungeon?
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>>158098472
Inside Zima Suecort
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Hey, I just started a couple days ago but I feel like I screwed up my character. What kind of stats should I be putting into an archer?
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>>158099073
only dex? not even a bit of str or con?
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>>158099194
time to reroll i guess
i really like mergen's outfit, what exactly should i build before that?
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Has anyone bought eye lens before just to look cute?
How noticeable are they?
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When you all say 2R7, R8, R9." What exactly are you referring too?
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>>158069763
>I have never used cross guard
You can't even stay on that stance for too long, it was meant to block an attack and retaliate after, but that requires really low ping
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>>158099583
Ranks 7, 8, and 9?

if by difficulty then its;

Rank 7 has 160k hp mobs at most

Rank 8 has double and triple that, around 300k-800k hp mobs

Rank 9 is up to your imagination
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>>158099717

Oh so it is how hard the PvE content is, not some kind of rank on the player?

Thanks.
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Crossguard literally is the best shit for PVP

just block an Archer's attack and watch him get rooted for 7 fucking seconds
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>>158072130
I also hate Ibre Plateau, anon
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>>158099761
its the Rank of your character (Class) and they basically scale with mobs.

so if you reach Rank 7, the mobs youd be fighting would have 120k-160k hp and so on
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>>158075545
>not liking futa
Fag.
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>>158099552
Here are Heart Pupils, you can't actually make out the shape unless you know what you're looking at,
The color is noticeable enough I guess.
And I bought them because I was being bugged to do so, it's not like I wanted them, baka.
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>>158099945
Can you change the colors after buying star pupils or are they locked to a single color?
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>>158099552
Quite noticeable
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>>158100012
They're locked to that particular color, you can't switch to another one since they'll just replace the pupils entirely.
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>>158087321
>see nuaele
>auto attack it because why not?
>1 damage as a physical class (ok, I was some 20 levels below it, but still)
>die in one shot
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>>158097906
Where do the three new Demon Lords even spawn?
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>>158100297
Blut in Tehvrin Cave, found it in 1F and 4F so far
Zaura spawn in the maps nearbyy Arcus Forest
Nuale in the north forest maps i think
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>>158100135
How do you get blue eyes?
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Anons do stuns work on pain barrier?
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>>158100393
Gray eye lens
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>>158095236
It does 7, I've posted a webm some threads ago.
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>>158095236
>>158100678
Let me clarify: it does 7 "true" hits, 2 more than without attributes, whatever you see more than that is just flavour. If you kill something with low HP with Redel, like a crystal tree root, you'll see two different damage numbers. Zornhau and Zucken atts don't even increase true hit count, they just add a modifier to them.
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>>158096224
Is this supposed to be an enchanter?
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I noticed some time ago there was an addon that let you use cards at any level.
if i were to explore the new maps and use a couple do you think i would get banned
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Storage or Maven for a Lv260?

Whichever I can find a party for is fine?
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>>158101486
I am not sure who you think I am, I just want to get this character into the 275 range so I can properly explore the new maps before maintenance.
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Did anyone ever updated the NPC artwork folder in the OP pastebin yet?
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What are considered rank 1,2,3 status ailments? I'm confused with how they work especially concerning with prophecy, bloodletting, and beak mask.
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archer2 > ranger1 > scout > fletcher3 > mergen
or
archer3 > scout3> falconer > mergen
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>>158102231
archer2 > ranger1 > scout > fletcher3> Hakkapälle desu
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So is the Carvings on the PIllar quest in Galeed Plateau actually just random for when the pillar decides to show up?

I really wanna complete every quest but I don't know if I should just sit around here waiting for the pillar to show up.
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>>158102384
not worth it just move along
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>>158102348
that wasnt an option!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>158102464
b-but completionism
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>>158101981
Thanks! How about knock backs though, are they considered debuffs? And would you happen to know if bloodletting blocks Lachrymator?
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>>158102587
>knockback
Yes they get blocked by prophecy/bloodletting
>lachrymator
It gets blocked.
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>>158102730
>>158102812
Damn. What's the best way to kill clerics then? Especially oracle/pd variants?
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>>158102968

Lancer can break safety zones.
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Does no one run the 115 dungeon?
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Home from work and it's the weekend! I plan to get doppel by today!!

What are everyones goals this weekend?
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>>158104958
People usually skip that one
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Does the Stamina bar on my Falcon actually do anything?
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>>158105420
If I remember correctly once stamina hits 0 for companions their basic attacks deal much less damage. That's all I know though, if anyone else wants to add.
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>>158105584
>Falcon
>basic attacks
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>>158105584
Falcons don' do basic attacks.
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>>158104992
To kidnap you and bring to klaipedia.
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>>158105728
>>158105647
I have no clue then. I guess that knock down thing falcons do is a skill?
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>>158102730
>>158102587
>>158101981
Don't listen to that guy, knockbacks and knockdowns are NOT debuffs.The only way to prevent them is with Swordsman Pain Barrier.
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How are the 2 new doppel c3 skills? are they worth maxing more than Redel?
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>>158106183
>knockbacks and knockdowns are NOT debuffs
Play a Cata in TBL, retard.
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>>158105958
>>
ty
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>>158104992
Reflecting on the undeniable fact Dragoon will never be as broke as Druid
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>>158106507
I miss Catshater-anon. I hope he's okay.
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>>158106282
Bloodletting, Prophecy, and SPR do not help against knockdowns. Only Pain Barrier does. Stop with the misinfo.
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>>158107134
Post a webm of you knockbacking someone while they are cc immune then.
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Could someone please give a very basic rundown of what I should be aware of/avoiding as a new player? Currently level 25 and I just haven't got a clue what I should be doing other than following the storyline quests.
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>>158107350
Keep doing storyline.
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christ they still haven't fixed the notice board
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>>158107350
This entire game, just quit now while you're ahead.
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>>158107350
Best advice is go head first to 200 and take notice of your surroundings.

I'm gonna give it to you now, You wont get a character right unless you've rerolled twice, and you will
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>>158107350
Get addon manager and addons it makes the game a lot more playable
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>>158108103
>You wont get a character right unless you've rerolled twice, and you will
Not all people are retarded anon.
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>>158106276
pls anons
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>>158108890
>>158106276
lmao
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What's the Maleus INT and SPR reduction? Is it like Crown, where it's based on one of your stats?
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>>158109191
>Is it like Crown, where it's based on one of your stats?

what? Crown reduces that shit to 1 regardless of stats
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>>158109225
Nice misinfo, it reduces those by your STR value.
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>AoE Defense Ratio [on headgears] seem to give UP TO 4 now.
The Kings Just Keep Growing Stronger
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>>158109191
Can't you read the spell description?
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>>158109362
>spell descriptions
>accurate
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>>158109360
I already have 7 AoE Def Ratio. Holy shit, I wonder if currently existing ones will be boosted.
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Found this on forums.
It shows how many people of your level are in queue right now. The circles on the bottom get filled with current class icons of people you're matched with.
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>>158109251
lmao
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>>158110025
You're welcome to prove me wrong.
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whose dick do i have to suck to get this spear
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>>158110154
Just buy it. Are you poor or what?
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>>158110154
You'd suck a dick for roughly $6?
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I want to make an SR, should I be full dex? Or 1:4 str:dex?
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>>158110337
I'd suck dick for free and if I can get a spear out of it all the better.
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>>158101041
It's that lady from Granado Espada that sells you TP items in ToS.
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>>158111695
3 x : 2 dex.
x could be strength or a combination of dex and con, capping crit change is easy as an archer.
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should i reroll or salvageable
dont even know where to go from quarrel shooter
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woah i didn't know monsters drop instant clear vouchers
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>>158112840
That's the only way you can get them. They are not cash items.
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When will this stupid Mystery box give me the thing i want?
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Are there any guides you guys would recommend looking at for leveling paths/grinding? I'm 84 Wiz3Linker and am extremely bored grinding at Royal Cathedral or whatever. I've done the Klaipeda side quests and there doesn't seem to be much to do through the Orsha route. May just roll another class that can solo. :<
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>>158105420
Fairly certain Hanging Shot gets slower, but that's pretty much that.
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>>158114189
You're almost at the exp reset

Go to Gateway of the King or whatever its called, then go to Letas stream, then go Pelke Shrine ruins

Do the quests there until you get lvl 90 from cards
Then do 90 dungeon
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>>158106276
Both are garbage when compared to Redel, damage wise. Zwerchhau is mandatory 1 point, Sturtzhau is optional imo
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>>158114429
are they both fake multis?

also about Sturt, does it reduce defense for all skills? or only this one?

for Zwer, i dont get this part, does it also increase 50% slash but only to non plates? or more on plates?
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>>158110208
>can't sell more than one item @ the market
>profits can only be retrieved after 3 days
>1.8kk = three days of farming 24/7 nonstop
why yes, I am poor.
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Did they fix the stuttering
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``Little''
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>>158114852
Lol fucking manlets
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shall i download and get into this game? Thanks for any feeback provided!
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>>158112564
pls
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>>158112564
salvageable. just put 50-100 con now then rest dex, when you get to 100 dex, go 2:1 dex str
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>>158114189
Pelke shrine -> Hydra Reservoir -> Delmore 1 -> Delmore 2 -> Delmore 3 -> Ferret forest 1 ->Ferret forest 2 -> ferret Frest 3
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>>158114717
Get a token, you should have a mil saved up already.
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Bows anti-air bonus just doubles the final damage, right?
This is way too OP in pve compared to crossbow builds.
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QUEUE FOR MISSIONS YOU FUCKS
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Finally reached R8. Took me over a week from scratch. I have to say, Redel is just fucking amazing with the attribute. The new slash debuff is great too, shame about the long CD. Still need one more job level for Zornhau attribute so I can talk about that. Other than that, happy.

What should I do from here on out? Go explore maps or just try to suffer through the quests alone? Still in a grind party because why not. Free exp.
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>>158115820
Make me
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should i give up trying to solo tevhrin stalactite cave sections 1-5? its frustrating because you restart at the entrance when you die.
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There's a Nuaele in Ch1 Klai Nobreer Forest
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>>158116361
You should give up without soul crystals, yes.
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Anons help me, I havent reached doppel c3 yet.

does Redel with attribute do link related?

https://treeofsavior.com/img2/news/developersblog/20160722/image_2.gif

Does it do the Redel>pause>Redel? why do people say that it only does a couple more hits?
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>>158114356
>>158115486

Thanks bois, I'll check those spots now.
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alright so im just starting out, what class can i play where i just do random non-conventional shit, thinking techies in dota2 or those nigs who never skill combat in runescape?
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>>158115702
Well crossbow outright ignores 25% of an enemy's DEF with the one-handed bow mastery. I don't know how +50% damage vs -25% enemy DEF works in the damage formula but considering it applies to everything I'd say crossbows are bretty gud. Not to mention damage bonuses from off hand weapons (arde dagger/manamana/that ice shield) and the DPS meme that is Running Shot.
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>>158116945
Sapper
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>>158116995
>+50%
It's 100
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>>158115604
>you should have a mil saved up already.
guess what
also
>why don't you spend 1 mil so you can spend another 1.8 mil later on
kek
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>>158117145
A token will let you level much faster.
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>>158117145
You sound very punchable anon
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>>158115702
Yeah you always want to Transcend a bow to be the best at flying bosses
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Suffering.
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>>158117145
Getting a token should be your first priority,I don't know you're doing with the silver you get, but i'm pretty sure you spent it on something not as important.
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Is this salvageable?
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Whose fucking idea was it to give dungeon mobs magnetic force while keeping their mob density packed?
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>>158118560

>full str

dude

if you had a dex build you could roll dragoon c2 and be a 2x2 pvp beast


anon, please, can you post the new gem stats charts? before I make a mistake.
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>>158118560
hahahaha

no
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>world tree stop monsters from attacking
How is this a thing?
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>>158118980
Silence in this game stops you from even attacking.
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Hoplites3 skill has 0 CD

But it also says it leaves the weapon in the ground costing you your upgrade additional damage
Can i still throw spears even with no weapon
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>>158114557
>>158101012
Zwerchhau only does a single hit, Sturtzhau does 2 true hits, although each hit for both skills will show three different damage numbers.

Sturtzhau itself partially ignores mob defense, it doesn't give mobs a debuff.

>for Zwer, i dont get this part, does it also increase 50% slash but only to non plates? or more on plates?
I haven't really tested it to be fair, but I can do later. I know better than blindly trust tooltips in this game
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>>158119287
How about>>158116609

thanks lad
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>>158118980
Cleric is the god class of this game.
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>>158119281
Throw it under your legs.
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>>158119281
You can literally spam it at your feet
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>>158119471
>>158119498
Well I wanted to spam it at enemies far away
It's a throw after all
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>>158119547
Just walk over to them you lazy fuck.
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>>158119632
All I wanted to know if you can still use attacks or not
It seems to imply from the skill description that only your physical attack is lowered.
But what would be the point of lowering it if you can't attack anymore anyways.
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>>158119409
Can't really open the gif on my phone, but I didn't notice any changes in animation length to be honest, although the range seems to have been shortened for some reason. The +180% damage increase on the tooltip sounds about right, it's a combination of increased true hit count (5->7) and a plain damage modifier added to those hits.
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>>158119749
Of course your physical attack is lowered, you won't have a weapon equipped.
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>>158119749
>It seems to imply from the skill description that only your physical attack is lowered.

3jane please...
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>>158120150
Does it actually unequip your weapon?

>Attack an enemy by throwing your spear. Your spear will stick into the ground where it was thrown, and your physical attack will be decreased based on the equipment's upgrade count until you pick it up. It automatically returns to you after a certain time.

>physical attack will be decreased based on the equipment's upgrade count
None of you shitters probably have that skill
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>>158118980
Growling also disables enemies.
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>>158119547
You cant spam it far away, you have to pick it up then cast it, if you cast it on your feet, you automatically pick it up
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>>158120330
>Does it actually unequip your weapon?
Yes.
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>>158120330
>physical attack will be decreased based on the equipment's upgrade count

That only literally means that you'd lose the weapon's added attack, the wording is literally shit but you'd be attacking as if you had no weapon on, but you'd still be able to cast skills (except Throw and Gae).

Think of it like this

>Cast
>you switch to unarmed until you walk by your weapon
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>this nerd
>sperging because i was in ''''his'''' grind spot
>after inviting me to his party and kicking me a few minutes after for no apparent reason
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>>158120636
Report him to STAFF_Max
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>>158120636
>>158120742
Do it
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>>158120636
Repair you gear you fuck.
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>>158120636
Mention "toxic", "discouraging from playing", and "concern about playerbase in general".
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Best BGM coming through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pKYAuaQn5M
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>>158120330
>Attack an enemy by throwing your spear
Why would you expect to have it equipped, if you literally threw your weapon away? This game makes more sense than what you guys give it credit for at least when it comes to skills, these tooltips are just badly translated.
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>>158120636
i love the community of this game
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Is this a good battle bracelet farming build?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11347779.354555.15243541.152535.2f3f5a65.35
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>>158121131
Oracle.
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>>158121050
Linked the wrong one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uqp4tO4U38
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>>158121206
I don't want to spend 4 hours resetting one mob for one battle bracelet when I can spend 4 hours running around and get two instead
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>reach R8
>no one congratulates you
>get no (You)'s
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Level 207 here.

Do I keep questing and dungeoning or should I grind Alemath forest?

How hard is to to grind from 207 to 280 before I card to 330?
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>>158121330
Thaum gets their double drop earlier than Doppel
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>>158121475
Yeah but thauma has a high chance of getting their shit stolen by million bots

You can't run around hasted
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>>158121394
Congratulations, anon!
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>>158121394

Good job anon! You did well, I'm proud of you.
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>>158121394
Maybe if you weren't an attention hungry slut people would want to give (you) them
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>>158121394
Congratulations anon now leave that shitty guild
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>>158121394
Holy shit you leveled through one of the easiest games to level in, the only challenge is actually staying interested in such a shit game. Are you a genius? A god? Both!?
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>>158121669
But you just did you fucking piece of shit
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>>158121730
B-but free TP
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>>158121752
But I didn't want to you fucking retard
>>
Dear poster number 158121869, there are ways wats of not giving (You)s to people who don't deserve them, apply yourself.

Yours sincerely,
Anonymous.
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Is Sage the best class in the game?
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>>158122486
>not in cleric tree
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how'd i do?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666eee.254555.153545.1a5aaabf.3f45658595a5b5
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>>158123059
reroll
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>>158123059


>pelt
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>PvE
>umbo blow sends enemies flying across the planet and knocks them the fuck down

>try it on people in the arena
>it knocks them back a tiny bit but they never actually get knocked down, just jumping away as soon as they're hit like nothing happened, often recovering before my animation has even finished
What is going allowed
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>>158123349
>+25% hp
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>>158123059
>0 pouncing
>0 helm chopper
>10 embowel
>max seism
>0 composee
>0 lunge
>max sept
>max prep

top lmao
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>>158123059

Is this bait?
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>>158121437
You take advantage of Alemeth the best you can. Do not skip it, ever.
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>>158123417
what's good about helm chopper, what's bad about seism?
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>>158123397
>HP
>in a game where you're literally invincible or dead

PLAY THE GAME
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>>158123792
Helm Chopper is a strike skill that you lack without Cartar Stroke, and by having 0 Chopper this means that you're basically wasting Cleave 3x damage bonus at Barb c1.

Seism doesnt scale well late game
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>>158123790
What level do you start doing alemeth
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>>158121243
>>158121050
The name alone wins this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ELAwnKUwCY
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>>158124419
I can picture it in my mind.
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>>158123968
Usually you'd go there at 211 or 212, but now the exp gap is wider so 205 is enough, maybe sooner even.
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>>158121243

Why is Kevin so good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tU8impRLAA

Who is Kevin and why is he being wasted at IMC?
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>>158123349
I don't get this pelt bashing, guardian complements fencer well.
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>>158123903
>Fencer
>needing strike skills
You get it for the stun.
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>>158125082
Because you can start being a fencer at level 50 right?
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>>158125196
You don't need any powerful skills to carry you, just get buffs in city.
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>>158125196
Are you implying levelling a barbarian is hard? You could have the skill at 1 and still kill shit easily
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>>158125295
>>158125361

Are you some kind of dummy? so youd rather take Embowel over Helm Chopper?
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>>158125196
>>158123903
Seism is a better deleter at low levels.
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>>158125450
Seisms only available at c2

you niggers are seriously taking Embowel oer Chopper?

lmao
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>>158125587
Why take either, retard?
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>>158125676
see>>158123059

I swear you autist will jsut pick a random anon post and argue that shit without reading the entire quote line
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>fighting Cerberus
>he sends out his moving fire pillars just as he dies
>everyone is slowed down by the EPIC SLOW MOTION VICTORY CAMERA while the fire pillars are ticking us at full speed
>entire party dies
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>>158125676
>not getting 1 point Elm Chopper for the stun
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>>158125439
Stop moving the goalposts, holy shit. I only said fencer has no need for strike skills, helm chopper at one with no damage attribute is fine, it's a good skill for the stun it gives. He could max Frenzy for all I care.
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>>158125902
Whos moving Goal posts? I replied to that anon who took 10 embowel over 0 Helm chopper, who also took 0 pouncing, nobody said to max helm chopper, he asked what was good about it

autists, each and everyone of you
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>>158125902
holy fuck anon, you are retarded
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>>158125804
I hate that camera. It's never happened with Cerb, but it sure as fuck has happened with Harp's Zaibas spam.
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>>158126056
And when do I tell anyone not to pick Helm chopper? I replied to the one guy who said it's good for being a strike skill, but Fencer has no trouble facing plate as its main damage comes from pierce skills, no mention how it isn't that great of a damaging skill either.
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>>158090219
how about you namedrop yourself so i can add you to ignore?
just because im not a kissass doesnt mean you can shitpost and >imply im obnoxious. soo sorry i dont make cookie cutter sheeple builds to fit in with your sheeple clique normie
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>want to try out new Zornhau attribute
>costs 3m
>don't even know if I will keep this skill
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>>158126471
>>158090219
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>>158126515
Costs around 2,200,000 actually. It's alright, makes Zornhau actually do some damage
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>>158126685
I also got the Punish one. Going to test it soon.

If you use a controller is there a button to press when the thing flashes on the screen?
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>>158126404
> I replied to the one guy who said it's good for being a strike skill, but Fencer has no trouble facing plate as its main damage comes from pierce skills

Again, Fencer is a c6 and Barbarian is a c3, as I said in my post>>158123903, the only way to get 3x cleave damage early game (which would deal more than any town buffs) is to get it at Barbarian c1, which this fucking anon>>158123059 never did.
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>Swell and shrink body only work on mobs
>You can't shrink your party members for +evasion
>Making everyone huge is reserved for a shit nobody wants
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>>158127038
They had to satisfy the fetishists without breaking the game.
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This is your barb fencer now.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666eee.23334455.11213541.5a6a718592a1bf.152a314361718595a5b5

>sword 1
Pain barrier 5, yes. Concentrate is useless at r8, you'll only take this to help leveling earlier, hence why I put pain 5 and concentrate 4. It does already a decent number of hits. 3 for bash, 3 for gung ho attribute.

>pelt

Swash 5, shield skills can be used to help leveling super earlier, but take at least 1/1, new changes can be made and the knockdown is useful sometimes. Guardian lv 1 is mandatory, but consider leveling it to 5, the new bonus is absurdly good for defense and the phys atk reduction is very small now. you'll switch over gung ho and guardian depending on the situation.

>barb 3:

Core skills are warcry and pouncing, the most damaging one is CLEAVE because of the stun bonus. Seism is a noob-trap, it's godly early on but falls hard later (does only one hit with a 170% mod, still hurts if you combo with cleave and lunge, helps vs cloth mobs, but the main use is as a setup stun).

Helm chopper is a double hit strike. for Fencer this is not a priority (pierce deals ok with plate and you ignore their defense with coquille) but it helps anyway and another stun with overheat is nice, r8 content is hard to deal without any CC.

Optional: Frenzy. You can kill frenzy for more Seism if you want a better early game and a higher slash burst for r7 content, but frenzy has it uses now at r8 with the new formula and epee garde's downtime. plus you're the topdog now, people are willing to melstis you and stacking frenzy at the first epee downtime can be a good investment for dps later in the fight

giant swing lv 1 is mandatory because this shit is funny and never gets old
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>>158126776
And then I repeat myself with
>Having trouble levelling a brbarian of all classes
The skill is good for the stun, damage isn't that great, worse than seism, which you can boost with Cleave and Lunge. You don't pick skills thinking on short term, and even then, Barbarian definitely doesn't need helm chopper over one.
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>>158127529
>Barbarian definitely doesn't need helm chopper over one.

Where in my post did I say that youre supposed to max it, anon?
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>>158127269
Guardian has -2% physical attack at both level 1 and level 2, so getting it to at least 2 is better.

The best Fencer build has at least a rank in Hoplite though, Stabbing is still the best scaling pierce skill and you can boost all its hits with Preparation.
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>>158120636
>>158120742
>>158120786
that fucker is so annoying. please report him, so he get a few weeks off
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>>158127629
it's 2.9% at lv2, not rounded
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>>158127529
>>158127585
shut the fuck up the both of you.

especially>>158127529
You have to give that you only took 1 point from what he said in>>158123903, when he also clearly said that you take it for the stun to TRIGGER 3x cleave damage.

you two are two autistic fucks arguing the same shit
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>>158127827
>2.9%
Ah, of course
>skill tooltips in charge of being accurate.
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>Outer Wall District 9
>It's a field unlike the last two areas so this should be easy, since nothing's aggressive
>Oh there's a wall blocking the way
>I can probably fill in the area if I go across the gap and get close enough since these new maps are pretty lenient
>Let me just go over here an-
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>>158128105
mobs are non-aggro there and you can hug that wall to 100% the map
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>>158128343
Except the gun ones. They all aggro and shoot the shit out of me
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>>158128391
did they spawn on you? then they are aggro.

the 3 <250L alts i run maps with didnt die there
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>>158127629

stabbing is good but not worth, losing warcry super extra damage for a longer sept etoiles is not advised and it locks you in the place while using it if do the full damage. shit mvoes a lot these days

composee does the dps job, the rest are just burst fillers (sept/balestra) to combo with preparation depending on the situation

Sword 3 Pelt 1 Hop 1 Fencer 3 can works, but I prefer corsair c1

if you go hoplite, might as well go full meme with hop 2 to abuse spear lunge
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>>158128524
No, every single one aggros me. Only those type though.
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archer3 > scout3> falconer > mergen
full dex

how bad is it
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>>158128696
Its the best for low level dungeon clears
>full dex
No need for that.
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>>158128790
what other stat would you add
on swordy you get crucified for adding str nowadays
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>>158128696
Actually best multipurpose mergen
Homming Arrow+Circling is the best combo for all Mergen builds
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>>158128867
str helps with scout's not great base damage. i'd add 80 points in a final build at least, maybe more.
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>>158128867
>on swordy you get crucified for adding str nowadays
That's because swordie naturally have less crit chance than archers a no swift step +25%.
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>>158128790
I thought all archers are full dex?
How else would you build it?
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>>158128867

str. go hifh dex, but don't forget to get some str.

archer gains critical rate by leveling and they also have swift step at c2, which adds evasion and more critical rate. in the end you'll lose dps if yuu go purely dex, specially in multishot and split shot (low base damage).

1:2 str/dex will enough, 1:3 if you're a evasion addict or 1:1 if you have tryhard critical rate gear. I advises 1:3 with red gems on your BOW when the new patch comes. some con is not bad to have
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>>158129063
Idiot
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>>158128961
>>158128980
>>158129135
ah i see, though is that to make levelling smoother or will the extra dex not be as beneficial in the end? assume pretty decent gear, if i plan on maining this.
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>>158127269
is there a reason for so many points in lunge and so few in sept?
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Here is the Punish attribute in action.

It seems to have no max target limit, unlike the skill itself. Basically the earthquake hits absolutely everything around you, at least so far this seems to be the case.

This is a level 1 Punish with 0% attributes using a level 170 weapon Magi 2H sword. Ignore the absolutely garbage damage. I'm insanely low funded and a DEX build, just waiting for my Gale Slasher and trans.

My tooltip says I have AoE attack of 10, but in the image it seems like I'm hitting way past that threshold. I'm still gonna keep testing in the new zones soon.
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could a scout help me explore zima suecourt and martuis storage room? will pay talt for each map.
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>>158129276
split shot needs added damage, you'll get most of it from weapon but because str gets a multiplier each class up it adds a fair bit especially when you're always critting and have a high attribute
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>>158129370
test in demon prison
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>>158129353

sept scalling is very bad, lunge gains more damage and the extra evasion points. if you love sept as I do, you can remove a bit from lunge into sept. Composee is another tricky skill to level, at first you feel as maxing it because of how amazing it is but the SP cost is absurdly high. Mine's lv 1 at the moment and I'm afraid of putting more points into it. Remember that venier also gives you a +2
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As a cataphract when do I stop putting points into DEX? I'm sitting at 250 right now but I don't know if there's some kind of cap.
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>>158129370

are you sure about the aoe ratio? those monster are all small (1)
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>>158129997
Never stop.
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>>158129997
what build are you using?
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>>158129370
Thanks anon. Very interested to learn more. As if I needed one more thing I have to try and put points into
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>>158130141
Going dragoon 2.
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>Mergen skills all require 2h Bow
>Even after losing their advertised "more damage with 2h bows" attribute

I hate IMC.
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>>158129205
Do you have any reasoning or are you just here to shitpost?
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Is this workable?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111666eh.1e3a4f5175.2f4f5a65.1121354563.11254551
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Is there a chart or something to show the minimum amount of HP/CON you're supposed to have at certain points as an archer?
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>>158130356

maybe they saved it for c2, kinda like dragoon

>c1 dragoon = trash hoplite 4
>c2 dragoon = 16k damage full screen spear boom + 100% damage debuff
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>>158130638
Don't put points in Jincan Gu, it's literally worthless. Zhendu's poison resistance attribute is actually pretty good. I don't like maxing Throw Gu Pot, but I'm in the minority on this one.

I prefer Ranger Rogue over Falconer Archer C3, but I play more solo.
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>>158097551
Ranger/Rogue does some crazy dmg with Falc3.

A2/Ranger1/Sapper1/Rogue1 would probably be a decent Falc3 build. A2 gives you a strong multishot and crit, Ranger1/Rogue1 gives you plenty of burst dmg, Sapper1 has Stockades and Punji to combo with Circling and Aiming.
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>>158130827
This is why I hate the Rank system when they don't give any insight on how the following ranks will be. It's such a massive waste of time if the next rank completely fucks your build over.
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>>158127750
>>158120742
>>158120786
I already did.
>tfw he gets a 5 hour ban
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>>158130858
Falconer is there from all of the positive talk about it + mergen and I don't feel like rogue would add very much other than picking up a sprinkle

Why does jincan do nothing?
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>>158131224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch-cvIJ75XY

The skill hasn't done anything since Beta. I'm not sure why they haven't changed it yet. I used to be an avid C3 Wugushifag, but now I'm rerolling to make a Wugushi C2 because C3 just doesn't seem worth it.
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>>158131224
I forgot to add, for Wugushi you want to go almost entirely STR because the poisons can't crit and scale well with physical damage. Rogue gives you Sneak Hit, so you can actually crit with your skills past Wugushi. It also has a hidden interaction with Barrage that causes Barrage to do 10 hits instead of 5.
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DEFEND THIS GAME
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>>158131743
no
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>>158130602
block pen
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>>158131389
>>158131587
>C3 is useless for wugu
>C2 poisons don't have enough uptime
>Rogue and full STR is needed to make the class work

I'm going to scout3 like everyone else before it's too late
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>>158132024
>scout3
kek
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>>158130797
enough to not get one shot, ideally enough to survive 2+ hits
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>>158132024
Wugushi C3 only adds depression. Most monsters before R8 won't survive C2's poisons anyway. I've also had dungeon/mission runs with fellow Wugushi, and it's terrible because the poisons don't stack for multiple Wugushi. If you're both playing Wugushi C2, you can at least take turns poisoning the bosses/each pack of monsters.

I'm a sucker for damage over time classes though, so I'm staying Wugushi for life. I just advise anyone that wants to have fun playing the game avoid it.
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>>158132509
>raising the attribute only multiplies the skill's base damage
wugu gets no love
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>>158131994
Block pen is a meme
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>>158132502
Then give me another option for a mergen

>>158132509
It's a shame since I like poison themed things a lot, jincan alone seemed so interesting to me until >it's fucking nothing
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>>158132798
Fletcher?
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Hey anon, what would YOU do for an EXP Card?
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CuteNotLewd is recruiting
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>>158132696
>Steady Aim only effects the first hit instead of the whole duration.

Honestly, I don't know why I stick with it. I just love damage over time and the game doesn't have any other class that does it. It's really depressing.
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When should I stop using cafrisun set? And what should I replace it with?
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>tfw when you finally unlock THAT skill

What's her name?
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>>158133085
270, manahas
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Zornhau with the new attribute is basically 400% hit.

It's a fake multihit with 400% modifier (100% base + 300%) and looks like a fake 4 hit.
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>>158133208
Blood Sucking
Saved my life having something to keep me running
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>>158133208
Barrage.
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How would you feel if imc released a map clear voucher and it lasts for 10 mins per use?
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>>158133264
those two guys having a card battle gets me every time.
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>>158133264
Wrong image? Don't get why people get so asblassted about fake multihits, it's great that Zornhau specifically only counts as a single hit, now I can kill more monsters with one hit in a wide area with DPE
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>>158133208
Running shot. You go from a pea shooter to a fucking gatling gun. Feels so very right.
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>>158133550
You only get DPE effects for one of the mobs though
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>>158133464

that cryo has the face of the pharaoh yugi tryhard master of the games
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>>158133424
10 minutes isn't even enough to cross 2 maps and also you can jusdt o that with "addons"
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Where do you guys get your addons? Are Excrulon's still working? His github seems old and no longer mantained.
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>>158133981
You don't need addons, shitlord.
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>>158133981
link in OP
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>>158134021
Yes I do

>>158134110
Link in the op and pastebin both lead to Excrulon's github which is not longer mantained and all files are months old, so I just assumed they wouldnt work with the newer patches. Thanks.
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Ok more info on Punish attribute.

Just look at the totem. This only happened if there were a lot of monsters. Like if only 3 or so, it hit it 3 times but in this image it hits the totem 4 times.

This is surprising to me. Nowhere is it mentioned that the skill will hit more than once on targets the more targets there are, but this seems to be the case.

I'm not 100% obviously.

I'll keep testing later.
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>>158133686
I like killing shit ten feet away from me with my melee skills, okay?
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>>158134321
Addon manager works fine
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>>158133208
Missile Hole.

Best skill in the game.
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>>158133550
There's nothing wrong with fake multi-hits as long as they have the multipliers to make up for it. People get assblasted when they get something like 10+ hits with a 400% ish multiplier. Basically Zucken.
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>>158134856
Zucken is alright, but I wish they'd given it bit higher modifier, it was already a bit worse than Redel without them, not it's not even close.
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>>158134582
That's such a badly drawn vagina region. What the fuck.
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when
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I thought that exploration would help me hit r8 faster but lol, I only got 20 lv 250 cards, what the fuck imc, the next ones are 275 and well, if you are 275 already...
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>>158133208
Pass. My very reason for being.
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>>158133842
map clear as in the dungeon clear vouchers
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>>158132956
There have been times when I'd have done anything for EXP Cards, but not anymore.
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>>158133071
is hooker64 a requirement? or just ERP?
if someone makes fun of me can you crash their channel for me ;_;
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>she put more than zero points in STR
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>>158136134
Would be even more worthless with the shitty spawn rates. The vouchers only work on 1 and 2 star dungeons, so those would probably only work on 1 and 2 star maps anyway.

besides that, what would happen if more than one activated on the same map?
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>>158136241

it's okay for hop 3 or archer 2
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>>158136241
I put 4

im sorry
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>>158136218
no, you need to ask swaaz for that
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>>158136326
my question is has anyone used a voucher and then used swell body on the mobs that come infront of you and if it works
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>>158099698
You can hold it long enough that it doesn't matter. And it's extremely useful on bosses since you can just use it to avoid knockbacks when the boss takes a swing at you or to avoid damage when it's a scary boss.

>>158104958
>>158105273
XP is amazing, definitely worth running. One of the better dungeons to use clear vouchers on IMO since it's a bit of a PITA to get groups and clear compared to the other dungeons.

>>158107350
Research your build it's incredibly easy to fuck up a character permanently.
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>>158135817
when
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>>158136659
It probably bugs and crash the instance.
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>>158136779
I really want this costume ~
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why yellow multihits are so satisfying?
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This Uniform better come soon or else
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>>158136852
Stop it you slut. I already called dibs. Only MY character can wear it.
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>>158137206
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>cleric casts divine blessing
1 SECOND STUTTER / PAUSE -- MISS YOUR ATTACK

>cleric carves totems
>walk into area of effect
MICRO SUTTER

>walk out of the area
MICRO STUTTER

How the fuck do I fix this?
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>>158137268
Your character is too fat and will look like a cheap skank with it on and so the look will be wasted. Let ME do the modeling.
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>>158136779
perfect for my chrono
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Stop fucking buffing everyone you retarded clerics, I don't even know what half of these do besides replace Aspersion which I NEED TO LIVE.
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>>158137515
sorry
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>>158137515
>not having a pocket Krivis3
Why even play this game?
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>>158137454
>>158137206
>>158136852
No. It's mine.
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Would anyone here want to do Alemeth now?
I'm only level 200, but I have linker and thaumaturge, and have some things to share
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>>158137385

diev is cancer
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>>158137583
>get Daino
>now I get a few more buffs from the retarded clerics before Aspersion is gone
Great
You know what happens when there isn't a Krivis? They just spam buffs and knock random ones of their own off.
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>>158137606
ill snow roll you up
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>>158137515
Right click the buffs you don't need.
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New player here, how's Cleric 2 > Priest 1 > Diev 1 > Paladin 3 > Inquisitor 1?

I want to play a more offensive/melee Paladin type character.

Also, which guild on Klaipedia is decent enough to watch the chat while I play?
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>>158137895
I'll counter snowroll... no wait, our balls can not touch
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>>158137991
>Cleric 2 > Priest 1 > Diev 1 > Paladin 3 > Inquisitor 1?
That's the best Inquisitor path actually.

Get Paladin 3 before either Priest or Diev though, Smite is very strong early.
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DYEL
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Thanks to my guildmates, I got my Templar C2 ass carried all the way to 317. Thanks to everyone who helped.

How many Rank8s do you have under your belt, /tosg/?
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>>158137991
Go back.
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>>158138161
I was told to get the other tings out of the way before going Paladin- Is there a reason for that?

Also, am I to be using DEX as my main stat dump?
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Will wizards ever recover and be DDs again or is it all ogre?
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>>158138119
too late i'm already coming for you
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>>158138401
Priest, diev, and cleric2 are all for more utility in the build, so you pick cleric2 and the other one you think you'll need to use the abilities of more

Dex is the main stat, in addition to con for more health, which is extremely needed later on
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>>158138401
>Is there a reason for that?
Not really, the order you get the classes doesn't really matter except for your leveling speed.
I'd get Priest last since it has no damaging skills and your blessing will be even weaker than Paroner's one.

>am I to be using DEX as my main stat dump?
Yes, full dex and as much con as you need.
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>>158136779

No! It's too lewd!
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>>158138396
zero
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>>158138586
No no no. That'd be gax.
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>>158138396
I don't even have a Rank 6. How do you play this shit game for so long?
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>>158138435
The won't unless they add a way to reduce or penetrate magic defense.

INT giving magic penetration might be good.
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Post cute
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>>158138982

Enchanter 2 will Enchant weapons and one will be magic defence penetration. 5 whole percent magic defence penetration
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>>158138686
So taking Paladin first for Smite will speed up my leveling, more or less.
>>158138749
So should I exchange Priest for Pardoner or is Resurrect a vital skill to have?

And why exactly am I pumping DEX if Smite is melee based? Does damage scale better with weapons and DEX is for the crit factor, or?
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>>158139067
>that
>cute
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>>158138924
The memes and guild members keep me coming back.
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>>158138396
Soon two.
3rd and 4th in planning
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>>158139135
>is Resurrect a vital skill to have?
Yes, in r8 a little misstep can get your dps killed, Resurrection is vital.
Going Priest you even get mostrance, which gives you 30% more dex.

>And why exactly am I pumping DEX if Smite is melee based?
Your skills have huge base numbers, you want them to crit, not to be increased by an almost irrelevant amount.
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>>158139135
Monstrance and resurrection are more useful to have than what pardoner offers

Dex increases critical chance, accuracy, and evasion all at once

Criticals are good to have, and accuracy is practically required in PvP, also because str only adds 1 damage for each point
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>>158139067
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I'm currently using a catacombs shooter and a khasti bow, both +5. I need a new bow to do the r8 content until I get the red one, which weapon should I look for?
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>>158139454
Ah, okay.
>>158139543
>str only adds 1 damage for each point
Awful.
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>>158138982
I want to penetrate a magician.
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What's the common Incinerate Plague Doctor build?
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>>158138294
>le cryokino faec when it oneshots you
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>>158139632
buy my maga bow recipe
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>>158138896
fine
ill allow it
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>>158139632
Light Ghoritos
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So I'm lv 157 and I've got zero quests available. Should I card my way up to 175 or what?
Demoin prison is packed, so nope... I'm not grinding. Unless if you want to make a leech party in dina's bee farm and invite me... well... that'd be lovely.
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>>158140083
How many 130 and 145 dungeons have you done?
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>>158140083
card when they get you to 177 or 178 and you will be fine.

175 dung sucks

do 145 and missions till 16x
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>>158140203
All of em.
>>158140268
>do 145 and missions till 16x
Ah, fuck. All right.
Since I don't have any other quest to do and no place to grind... guess I'll just farm some dio-whateverthenameitscalled for my fellow alchemists.
Thanks, anyways.
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>>158139787
All I see are 1s when wizards attack me, how do you take damage?
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>>158139943
But girls cant love girls.

and i dont even know you. that'd be lewd and very impure.
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Everyone better get ready because I'm going to make a "POST YOUR CUTE CHARACTERS!" post next thread!
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>>158140416
>All of em.
You should be fine then, card away.
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>>158140416
if you dont milk dungeons much at 130-16x (or grind/leech, i dont like that), you can get stuck (for some time. or more like slowdown a lot) at 17x
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>>158140492

Being cute is a curse. It brings nothing but suffering.
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>>158137630
Waiting warmly for anyone
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>>158132509
Make attributes work properly, make Zhendu scale with stats, make all poisons stack (or at the very least Zhendu), make Jincan Ju useful (make Zhendu apply to bugs and have Zhendu stack? make bugs invincible and untargetable and make their dmg scale?). Any of these would make Wugu way stronger. Although I can see Wugus still being relevant in higher tier for difficult content if only because serious groups would be spamming JP scrolls and JP makes Wugu dmg skyrocket.

>>158133208
Spear Throw. You go from killing 1-2 mobs with skills every 20 seconds or something to killing EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME EVERYWHERE IN A FUCKHUGE AOE. Frost Cloud is another strong contender.

>>158134346
Pelt3/Barb1/Fencer3/Dopp3 meta confirmed.
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>>158139805

maga bow is only worth with lots of upgrades I think

>>158139949

almost the same attack than a s. wreech bow... the evasion is nice but the cost of the materials...

fucking 4 terraniuns.

I just found one Superior Wreech bow in the market... +8 for 1.1m. It would cost me a 1.8m silver to upgrade from 0 to +8 assuming no failure. Of course I wouldn't push it past 5 but that's still something.

my khasti bow has 340-482 atk + 144 critical attack vs 440-611 SWB one. how relevant that upgrade would be? the shit part is that I'll be locked into no shield. maybe upgrading the crossbow could be better? flying mobs takes so much damage from archers already that I'm not sure if I should worry to upgrade my bow for now...
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>>158140489
accept your true self
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>>158139159
Rewd!
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>>158141727
it's the truth, reiter's outfit isn't cute, neither are your hat nor haircut
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WHEN IS THE NEXT MEET UP, I'M LONELY
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>>158141028
You're better off running around with a good crossbow + something and using your Khasti bow for flying
It will still do insane damage on flying
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>>158141937

Same time as always. Just wait!
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>>158140898
Zhendu scaling with stats would have to work weird considering it's a party buff. Whose stats would it scale off of?

I don't know if poison stacking is the right idea either. Just imagine a Wugushi with Pass on a boss or double Wugong Gu + Poison Pot on groups. It would actually do damage.

I'd like them to replace Jincan Gu with a different skill. Considering the high uptime of poisons for C3, maybe something that would deal more damage based on the amount of poisons on the target. Something that would "detonate" the poisons and make them deal their remaining damage all at once (as a multi hit) could be cool too. That way you could get around the stacking issue with Pass.
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>>158137991
>>158138161
>>158138686
>Priest

>>158139135
I recommend getting Pardoner.

>>158139454
Their fault for dying, use a revive stone.
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>>158141893
Well *I* think she's cute.
In fact, I would go so far as to be her girlfriend!
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>>158142341
You can't use those in et or 315.
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>>158141893
>calls someone else not cute
>doesn't post their own cute character
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>>158142418
I know. Get good.
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>>158142418
Hey if you want to do 315 or ET you need something thats not a shitty Pala3 wannabee DPS build
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>>158142341
>Mostrance and Res
vs
>Discerning evil and some scrolls that sells for pennies

Priest is way better.
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>>158140898
>Pelt3/Barb1/Fencer3/Dopp3 meta confirmed.
Are you shitposting?
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>>158137991
Cleric2/Priest1/Paladin3/Miko/Inquisitor

Miko lets you significantly buff your party between your cooldowns.
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>>158142441
You are cute.
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>>158142015

yeah, Iwll look for a better crossbow
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new to game, how good is intless mage? can i only level SPR and have a good character?
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>>158142623
You can't buff yourself with Miko though, leave Miko to the dedicated dancers.
Plus Miko scales way better with INT.
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>>158142587
>Monstrance (can be scrolled)
>Res (a crutch)
vs
>Discerning Evil (huge DPS booster)
>Indulgentia (AoE lv2 cure)
>Increase MDef (extra survivability)

ok lad
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>>158142681
SPR is only good for some cleric builds.
everyone else puts 0 points in it (unless you are a dumbfuck like LP)
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>>158142743
>Discerning Evil (huge DPS booster)
Only very few classes
>Indulgentia (AoE lv2 cure)
Wow, because there are so many lv2 debuffs in the game right?
>Increase MDef (extra survivability)
Shitty uptime and shitty value because no SPR.
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>>158142992
>Only very few classes
Which happen to be the best DPS classes.
>Wow, because there are so many lv2 debuffs in the game right?
Still more consistent to land that cure
>Shitty uptime and shitty value because no SPR.
Diev helps with uptime, and you can get like 150 SPR from endgame gear, which will give you 500 mdef together with barrier.
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>>158142558
Barrier from Paladins is getting buffed to reduce ranged damage by a lot and breaking wheel is good supportive aoe damage, having that will be nice plus the supplementary damage.
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>>158142743

besides removing some status, indulgentia heals?
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>>158143137
There are zero monsters that use lv 2 debuffs that I can think of. Maybe if there's a slime room and you have to watch out for raise but barrier would keep them away.
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>>158143242
No.
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>>158142663
it's worth noting that one of the boss cards allows you to get +% damage to flying. running one of those on physical characters is probably worthwhile.
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>you will never get the girl
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>>158143242
It doesn't.

>>158143302
Sure, but glad that you agree on everything else.

It doesn't have to be Pardoner by the way, Oracle, Kabba, PD, maybe even Monk are better than Priest.
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>>158143432
It's 1% damage per card.
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>>158143524
It's actually 8%.
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>>158143436
WHEN YOU WALK AWAY
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>>158143483
>Sure, but glad that you agree on everything else.
That wasn't me.

Pardoner sure is nice, but Priest is way better.
You're dismissing the single resurrection ability in the game as "a crutch".
You're basically saying you'll never play hard content with that build.
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>>158141080
Ugh, even if i'd do that. Sorry, no. I can not.

But, You are cute!
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>>158143609
Not it's 1% per card, for a total of 8% with 8 cards.
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>>158136779
those purple bows and lace are ugly as fuck
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I'm 240, when's the next soft reset?
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Rank Goddesses.
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>>158143695
You're forgetting the fact that this isn't a tab-targetted MMO. You can actively avoid attacks to not die. And you can build defensively to not get one-shotted.
Aside from missile attacks, that's where Barrier will help.
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>>158143860
281
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I miss reveal map
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>>158143814
Card Count means how many cards you have equipped, not 1% you dumbass.
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>>158143936
>You can actively avoid attacks to not die
Have fun avoiding magic or bosses' room wide aoes
>And you can build defensively to not get one-shotted
Lol no you can't, not as a dps when bosses can do 20k damage.

People will die in hard content and you will most likely fail the instance when that happens if you have no res.
People might actually not even get you on their party because you're missing it.
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>>158143936
>And you can build defensively to not get one-shotted.
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>>158143890

bakarine #1
rest
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>>158143890
Jurate

EXTREME GAP

The others
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>>158144142
Have you tested it? Because I did.
If it was 8%*8 every Fletcher would go around with 8 Tomb Lords.
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>>158143890
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>>158143890
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>>158143759
we are on different servers anyways
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>>158144145
>>158144221
Yes you can. Unless you want to absolutely minmax your deeps like a retard.
Anyway, if your DPS dies because he got one-shotted, is it really your fault?
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>>158144946
>Anyway, if your DPS dies because he got one-shotted, is it really your fault?
Yes.
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>>158144946
ofc it is not. but not being able to save the run is yours.

Priest or gtfo
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>>158144946
>is it really your fault?
It may actually.
A wrong safety zone, healing to late exc, shit happens and people will die.

When it happens you can just cast Res and keep going on with almost no issued or fail the instance because you're a retard that didn't take Priest when you could.
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>enter diev totem range, get 1 second lag
anyone else? how to fix?
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>>158145037
>>158145089
>>158145245
Well, believe what you will. If you need that sense of security, take it.
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Never should have come here.
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>>158145769
Whisper the guild leaders.
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>>158145518
I do Alt+A and the lag is gone

wtf is this shit? is it the UI? a UI mod? I only have better quest but that's it
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>>158145769
Whisper Kirito
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>>158145769
If you're cute then I recommend cutenotlewd.
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>>158146223
Then be there on the next meetup and have them talk to you?
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>>158146223
B A S E D K A Y O R I
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>>158145769
Futureproof has space, whisper Lolipan.
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>>158146928

>>158146928

>>158146928

migrate
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>>158146279

No thanks, guess I'll consider messaging people
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>>158145769
cnl is recruiting, whisper Plasmagica she's away right now though
>>158146223
I don't remember cnl having drama with anyone
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>>158145636
Lol you've obviously never played any end game content if you think ressurrection is useless.
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When do you stop grinding in Maven?
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>>158149551
As soon as you can do r8 quests
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