/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless Legend and 4X Games

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First for Peter

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First for Cleopatra best girl

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Why are barbarians so fucking annoying now

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nice thread ooga booga

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WE NO MAN'S SKY NOW!!!

>>158034291
They literally spam units.

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How retarded am I?

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>Tales from Nippon
He mad

Also Cultural is boringggggg

FUCKING BARBARIANS I'M SO MAD I'M ALMOST GOING TO TURN THEM OFFFFF

>>158034291
Because you need to take care with their scouts
If they spot your lands and are allowed to go away in the FoW they will spawn a raiding party to fuck you over

Why did they have to make it so you have to watch the leader screen while they say something and then have to wait 5 seconds as it fades out just so you can select an option?

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I like Seven Kingdoms 2.

>>158034520
and how are you supposed to deal with scouts when you only have a slow ass warrior and a pansy scout that's not close enough to make a difference

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reposting BRAZZERS

>>158034534
>press esc to skip it
>still have to press Goodbye when it's the only option

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>Decide to try out the new patch
>start with a system next to my home system absolutely loaded with minerals
>Thanking the RNG gods for my good fortune, since three or so of the other systems I've gotten in my borders are completely empty
>Suddenly a notification
>This happens
God fucking damn it, I should have known something was wrong. The fact that I was finding a broken-ringworld with those Curator fellows fooled me into thinking it was just random luck.
Thankfully it seems to only be space stations that launch strike craft, so I should be able to clear them out later once I unlock Point-defense, but this is going to set my empire's growth back considerably.

So do military units have no upkeep cost now? Congo Bongo has got like ten warriors just for funsies.

can you build anything on rainforests?

>>158034625
Dunno, I dont have Civ VI yet, but this is what I read in the previous thread
With deflecting barb's and so

>>158034628
BARBED

>>158034520
The first real task for any minmaxer is to the determine the best troop combo / policy settings to one shot a Barb scout.

>>158034520
What can you even do to stop them? Nothing less than a horseman can chase a scout down. And due to glorious new movement system you almost never can attack them in forests or hills.
Of course if you are lucky enough for the scout to just waltz into your entire army you'll kill it, but unless you make it in one turn the little fucker will most likely run away.

I'm really overwhelmed by city management with unstacked cities. I'm afraid to make tile improvements because I might end up destroying them later for a new district. Have you guys found any good rules of thumb?

Also, what's the best civ for getting the most out of a small amount of cities? Japan? When I tried Rome, I got completely overwhelmed by all the cities I had to manage, because of how much they favor constant expansion. I think I have to play tall until I get used to the new city management, but there's no obvious civ for specializing purely in tall like in Civ5.

>>158034514
The only good thing about barbs is that that the AI is worse at dealing with them. It's always nice to see a captured settler as you plant a city down near a camp. I often leave them alone if they are in choke points that I want to settle near.

>>158034520
I swear the scouts fucking teleport onto your lands so it's a constant problem

>>158034665
Even when you skip you still have to wait for it to fade out.

>>158034752
>actual single player game use for mounted

wew

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These are some salty AI

Why is a joint war not a surprise war?
I don't get it.

>>158034232
Bitch is bipolar. In most games, what's considered a weak army will change around so often, so one turn she's calling you a bitch-ass nigga and next turn she's commending you on how strong and dependable you are.

What happened to happiness and golden ages, or am I blind?

>>158034875
Just play a small map if you want less cities.
Only make improvements on good tiles you'll definitely be working in a close future but it's hardly the end of the world if you have to build over and improvement anyway builders are so cheap and get more uses later on.

What is the shittiest Civ?

What is the best?

>>158035178
I'd fuck her either way

>>158035147

he looks like a fucking muppet

>>158035265
Playing Japan on Prince
Stomped Monty "Early Game God" into the dirt

It's kinda meh desu - i just like how Hojo looks

>>158035265
>What is the shittiest Civ?
No clue.

>What is the best?
Greece.

>>158035147
>Play as Russia
>Get a shitton of Great Artists/Writers/Musicians that you can't even use because you have no space left in your culture districts
>Pedro hates you
wew

its a little annoying that you need builders to repair improvements

>>158035265
America on paper looks really bad. They get marginal tourism bonuses that are weaker to many other factions, and get late game UUs. A losing combination.

>>158035534
I'm just happy it doesn't cost builds.

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>Game literally just came out
>People already trying to push meta

Slow the fuck down. Let this shit happen on its own. The overpowered cream will rise to the top and the shit will sink to the bottom

Just finished my first game with france.
I mainly couldnt enjoy the second half because I was trying out the game on prince the opposition was just too weak.

I wonder, however, I basically did 0 diplomacy. Except for declaring war. I saw lots of "diplomatic options" stuff but most was just casus bellies which dont seem to matter because everybody hates the fuck out of you.

And Religion victory is a fucking meme. I accidentally ended up winning culture while trying to convert Rome but this missionary battle thing is a bit stupid.

>>158035147
>yfw pedro actually gets easier at higher difficulty because he can cheat out more great people than you and therefore likes you

>>158035467

>Greece

Why do these motherfuckers get FREE policies ?

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>It's anon has the entire contitent under his thumb edition
Can't wait to see if the higher difficulkts are not boring

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>>158035660
Deity Peter must be fucking Satan incarnate.
>hates you for having weaker science and culture
>settles cities everywhere devouring tiles
>dominates your country with his religion

>>158035862
was directed towards >>158035682 of course

>>158034506
No idea, haven't reached late-game in post-patch Stellaris yet.

Any tips on frustrations to watch out for and avoid?

>>158035178
Realistc female AI.

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>you are building trade routes and schmoozing with envoys when this guy comes in and slaps your city states ass

what do?

>>158035862
Im pretty sure you would want to be playing peter on deity for the trade route bonus

>>158035832
What difficulty did you start from?
Prince was confirmed to be piss easy already by the press demo build

Can districts build or do things on their own? It seems like they could, but I'm not seeing how. It would explain a lot, though.
Doesn't this game promote tall more than ever with these things? You need districts to build anything beyond the most basic buildings, and these things cost as much as wonders and need a good amount of population.

>>158035832
Oh really?
Damn i thought Prince would be standard

Definately going a more narrow focussed Civ next time

Poland music tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVuL1aG2cVo

Which civ is best for science and/or culture?
Relatively new to civ so I don't fully understand what they all do yet.

>>158036006
Taking city states seems like a mentally relaxing option compared to the constant maintenance of dealing with fucking envoy tug of wars.

>>158036089
>It seems like they could, but I'm not seeing how. It would explain a lot, though.
No, everything is built from the city center.
>Doesn't this game promote tall more than ever with these things?
No, just spam cities, each with districts. There are very little global modifiers.

And in order to build wonders you usually need to fufill more criteria than you can cover with just a few cities.

Wide is definitely the way to go in Civ6.

is stellaris fix yet?

>>158035712
honestly i dont think greeces extra policy slot is that strong. Free monuments and insta roads on the other hand is pretty stupid.

>>158036006
Fuck that faggot. Do they really expect us to completely avoid sending out envoys and doing city state missions just to get along with him?

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Russia.. What are you doing? What are all those units doing at my doorstep?

on the real how do you figure out when your city is going to expand its borders, and to what tile?

>>158036110
for >>158036043

I got the cracked version but Montezuma isn't working even though he's in the DLC folder

what gives

>>158036389
They want to show you their strong military.

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>>158036006
Politely invite him to visit the main temple in my capital. He'll enjoy our religious celebrations.

>>158036463
You have to edit a line in a file to enable it I think.

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>>158036474
RIP me

>>158036308
But the districts cost so fucking much and do so little on their own. It takes a fuckton of time before a new city can build anything meaningful, and there's not much you can do about it.

How do I use a battering ram to attack a city? The ram is right next to an enemy city but there's no option to attack.

>>158036216

>DLCs are revealed a day after the game comes out

Fuck I love living in the current year

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She wants the D lads

>>158036368
>>158036006
>Rapidly settles land
>starts to hate you if you even so much as sniff at a city state
>hair trigger on declaring war

Its like they want us to conquer him as soon as we find him.

Is movement still tedious in Civ VI?

Without roads it would take your units literal in-game centuries to cross some hillscape

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I was thinking about getting this game as a gift for my son, is it worth the price or should I look for something else?

>>158036389
They want to hold a referendum in your city.

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>start as Rome
>get a free monument
>get crazy buffs to trade routes
>can focus on military very early
>everyone I meet is too afraid to dislike me or go to war
>mfw

Trajan is a baller in this game. Absolutely no fucks given as I make all roads lead to Rome. Even Barbarossa who talks mad shit can't do anything besides grumble about me befriending the city states he wants to capture.

>>158036680
Even more so.

>>158036691
Your wife's son will love it.

Serious answer: depends on his age and game playing habits

Expect him to skip homework a lot if he really likes it

>>158036725
I think they want to quietly annex my ass.

>>158036598
Yes and, once you have it they go strong.
Districts also enable you to build buildings like libraries, markets, etc and quickly snowball into huge plusses.

>>158036673
Can't wait for the 'Legendary Leaders' DLC that will add the interesting leaders that were replaced by nobodies/women.

Anyone having an issue with city states shitting out tons of units and then just letting them sit there? Not only does it look really annoying to have that carpet of ancient era covering up a city state and the area around it, it also makes it impossible to send in friendly units, like missionaries when I want to do a religious conversion quest.

>>158036314
>honestly i dont think greeces extra policy slot is that strong
>gets BOTH God King and the extra 1 production

Okay what the fuck is the new border system

Why are fucking Kongo Niggers running around my lands without me giving them Open borders.

>>158036840
they're peaceful refugees

>>158036680
Chasing babarians is probably the worst thing in the game right now.

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Wtf happened to Ralteks? This was one empire a month ago and now it's a god damn cluster fuck.

>>158036840
You can't enforce your borders until you get the Early Empire civic.

>>158036675
I like how she always glances down towards you crotch when talking about how puny or strong you are.

>>158036787
>Expect him to skip homework a lot if he really likes it
If the speaker is American then homework is literally nonextant tier.

>>158036680
They didn't just nerf the roads super hard, they also nerfed the movement in general - you can't move onto a tile unless you have enough movement points to fully cover the cost of movement, same applies to attacking. Non-cavalry melee units are even more useless than they were in 5 now. And I couldn't imagine that it was possible.

if you build neighborhood and later chop down woods (that gives it +1 housing) will it remove a housing and pop?

>>158036110
I mean it's the "standard" probably in regards to AI/player buffs but that doesn't make it less retarded. Especially the new district system is 100% out of AI's scope of being able to plan out efficiently.

>>158036840
It's their UA

>>158036787
thanks man!

What's the deal with tons of troops niear my borders on turn 50? Shit's unplayable.

>>158036691
Check greenmangaming, it's 20 percent off there last time I checked, I got the deluxe edition for 60 buck which was a 20 bucks discount to the steam price where I live(Belgium)
Don't think the discount is in America though

>>158036927
You can now solo entire armies with 6 units instead of 12-15 because of this. The AI is physically unable to flank you because there are turns where they can't even move a single tile foward.

>>158036828
I have this issue with basically everybody that isnt a super peaceful civ.

Even in modern era they still have loads fucking ancient era warriors covering the map like little insects.

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>>158036764
>>158036906
>>158036927

Think this might be the dealbreaker for me.

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>>158036828
Issue to some is a blessing for others.

>>158036925
haha

>>158036665
Pretty sure battering ram can't do anything by itself, gotta merge it with a melee unit.
>>158036673
Technically leaked. I'm guessing the tracks just happened to be in the game files since they were done ahead of time.

>>158036801
Once they have them. And are they really strong? How? Building prerequisite aside, all I'm seeing out of many of these is a glorified tile improvement.
And either way, until you do have some your city is dead weight. Meaning going wide you're going to have tons and tons of dead weight most of the time.

>>158037035
>get 3 crossbowmen
>stick a single pikeman in front of them
>get a sword unit
>recc Egypt's 30+ army
Honestly not enjoyable at all.

>>158036268
Anyone?

>>158036313
pls respond

Where the fuck are the movies stored in Civ VI ffs

>>158036949
It might reduce the housing but you won't lose pop.

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Is there just more warmongering in this game than the previous ones? I'm getting my ass kicked to hell on Prince.

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>Someone mentions challenge in 4x games or games in general as a good thing

Challengefags are the worst I swear

>>158036912
civil wars can happen, some rival neighbor probably helped fund some insurgency

>>158037242
>Science
Sumeria they're literally the new Bablyon of Civilization VI. You'll be entire eras ahead without even trying as long as you build Ziggarauts.

>Culture
Rome seems to be one of the best for that. It's also one of the most generically good-for-anything nations.

>>158037027
cool thanks

Are the Unique Units too strong?
It's so hard to get to Swordsman, when Rome pulls out Legions before I can even see Iron

>>158037179
What the fuck are you talking about, do you even play the game? You wont have dead weight, having more cities, even if they are developing, doesnt impact you all too much.
You can turbo them up with trade routes and if your too lazy to do even that, just conquer them.

Theres basically nothing stopping you from conquering everything left and right.

>>158037326
Fuck off casual.

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>I played enough EL, lets try Civ VI
>Your units move so slowly you feel like trying to get Harmonites to cross a forest during winter

I'm gonna back off very slowly

>>158037423
Not really. They're unique for a reason. Honestly I think the Legion isn't strong enough, it should be a +10 from Swordsman.

>>158036927
I did not realize how important the whole "use renaming move to move into rough terrain" aspect of Civ 5's system was until now.
My knight literally cannot catch up with this barb scout because of these hills and woods. He's been chasing him for like 20 turns now. This guy on a horse has been chasing this old fuck with a dog for 20 years. Jesus.

>>158037495
>20
It's probably been at least a fucking century

>>158037316
How is it possible to have difficulty on prince? I had mars colony stuff researched while everyone else was still pumping out caravels and swordsmen, and I felt like I had hardly any idea what I was doing.

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>>158037458
This shit where you can't move into rivers/hills/forest without full movement points is fucking terrible. I have never wanted to die more playing a video game in my life.

>>158037316
Really, Prince has been a snoozefest for me since T150

Where the fuck is the Civpedia

>>158037596
not him but I felt like I was being constantly besieged by no less than 2 barbarian camps on Prince, maybe I just haven't gotten used to VI

>>158037596
Yeah well I'd like to know how you deal with 6 melee units and a slinger at turn 40 unless you only pumped out melee units.

>>158037631
I wouldn't even mind if they made tiles smaller or something and doubled your total movement points but this shit is ridiculous, even your fastest units can't move for shit.

>>158035147
If this were true IRL Brazil would be coinstantly denouncing every other country oin Earth. Whose brilliant idea was it to make them the GP based civ? There's no historical basis for that , at all.
Honestly, having them in the game at all is more pandering than any of the women leaders(well except maybe for Tommy who is a literally who asspull). Do BRs buy a ton of 4x games or something?

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what the heck is this price!!

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Please respond.
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>>158037495
>This guy on a horse has been chasing this old fuck with a dog for 20 years
>ironclad warrior on a horse, which function is to ram into the enemy and slash things tries to chase down a skilled explorer, who spent his whole life being as fast as he can

>>158037316
They tend to throw out more units more often, but they don't update them. I had a rough first war on King but the AI is still terrible, always taking unfavourable fights and neglecting ranged units which are just as overpowered as ever.

>>158035534
if only
damaged districts need to be repaired as a queued city production

>>158037440
Dead weight as in it takes them 50 fucking turns to start being useful and there's barely anything you can do about it. Use trade routes to hurry up the district phase of development? You need other districts to have trade routes.

>>158037657
You have to go into the game I think

>>158037792
Nigger even a Catapract can outrun a person no matter how lightly armored.

>>158034520

Scouts are almost impossible to intercept, so you're forced to deal with raiding parties

It's better to invest into a Scout - Builder - Slinger - Slinger build early

Rush Archery asap and upgrade. Once you have two Archers, barbs become locally irrelevant

Always keep a ranged unit + up-to-date walls in every city

The AI is incapable of handling those steps so you'll often see AIs lagging multiple eras behind or/and having ridiculously low amounts of expands/improvements

You haven't seen true hell until you are caught between an Iron camp and a Horse camp, and they both fling scouts that cause a horde spam at Turn 10

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Anyone have tips for the early game here? I played 1500+ hours of Civ 5 and still feel like I'm drowning here.

>>158037316
More early warmongering, less later. Early on the AI can get away with surprise wars, so they're not too shy about doing it. Combined with how squishy your cities are by default now, you really can't afford to not have an army early on.

>>158037860
You're chasing him through the woods, have you seen many horsemen moving efficiently through the woods?

>>158037780
The price of not having comp bows.

>>158037792
>on a horse
There's the problem. And it's technically a Mameluke.

>>158037780
it's to stop people massing 1 turn archers, and then researching crossbows

>>158036313
I've been trying it out, and they've at least improved; research rates are more balanced to fit the pace of population growth so that you spend your time actually advancing a step at a time rather than unlocking everything faster than you can build it. Colonization is much improved with the removal of the prerequisite researches. I'm unsure on whether the new ship-design system is an improvement or a step back, but having to develop different types of ships for different roles is at least engaging.

The main problems with Stellaris have always been in the mid-late game, and I haven't made it that far yet, so I don't know if they've fixed those issues yet. Sectors are improved as you have more options for running them; a list of boxes to check or uncheck for what you want them to do, and an option to have them take a "balanced" approach to resource focus.

Overall, I'd say that it's not anywhere near perfect yet, but it's far more playable than it was at release.

>>158038020
>on a horse
>through the forest

>>158037992
That doesn't mean you can outrun a horseman, at most you live for a little longer.

Why can't I build Chataeu with all the requirements met?

>>158037883
Early game in this seems kinda military focused, like history I guess.

It's a good idea to keep a bunch of Archers around to hold off barbarians, and once they stop being an issue you may as well use them to go roll over some cities.

>>158037780
Get the civic that gives you a 50% discount on upgrading m8, it's that easy.

>>158038158
Because french is shit.
I also had the problem, I dunno.

>>158038137
Horseman here.
You do not run your horses through a forest.

>>158036676
Well he is the games best warmonger in terms of mid-game production.

Who's the strongest when it comes to domination? Monty?

jesus fucking christ the barbarians make this gam nearly unplayable
4 barb camps near my capital spawned 12 fucking horsemen because catching the scouts is impossible

Is there some kind of rule for when you can build something within a district? Like, I'll build a theater district, and when I want to build an amphitheater next, it just doesn't show up on the production screen.

>>158038328
Military horses are still faster than humans in a forest because they're not built for speed in the first place, they're built for endurance and not tripping.

>>158038351
The Genghis-Khanette hands down. Melee units are crap, horse-archers that are created in pairs less so.
Monty is great at raping city states for workers though.

>>158038029
Thanks for replying
Are battles still a clusterfuck?

>>158037780
It's funny, all the late wars I've had involves both sides pulling whatever units they had to hand plus whatever they could build/buy/upgrade right there.

So you get Spearmean advancing on Knights running down Crossbows standing next to Muskets covered by a Machine Gun nest.

>>158038391
A human in a good shape can endure longer trips than a horse and thus go faster long term or in this case, march longer and further.

>cannot step near the coast because the entire ocean is full of barbarian boats

In game editor when? Removing the editor in V/VI is a mistake.

>>158038383
Some buildings require certain prerequisites. I personally didn't play around with theater districts too much, but religion buildings have to be build after you get temple in the holy district, which significantly decreases their value compared to Civ5. I guess it's not a problem for Russia and Japan.

>>158038317
rip

If you want to disable Auto Unit Cycle, you can do it in your UserOptions.txt file in your game documents (under User/my games/Civ VI)

AutoUnitCycle = 0

>same first paragraph for everyone
>rest is super short
>barely any backstory/history
>every unique portion is "you're this guy, go build a civ. whatever"
>no test of time
Holy hell, these intros suck.

China is OP as fuck with the dynastic cycle. Since you can get the boost for almost everything that's like +20% to science and culture

How the fuck do the AI rush science so fucking fast?

Me and Monty was still in medieval era while Freddy entered the industrial era.

>>158038391
You don't run a horse through a forest, especially if its not a managed forest. One guy going bush is probably going to be pretty hard for some knights to run down.

>>158038856
Check how many techs they have.
Beelining WITH BONUS can quickly catapult you one era ahead.

>>158038804
>Monty's story is basically description of his gameplay mechanics
I guess they didn't wanna mention large scale human sacrifices, but shiet, that's what Aztec are all about.

>meet new civ hiding on other side of map turn 100
>try to trade with him
>says im at war and can make peace when we just met

the fuck is this

>>158038856
Sometimes they just gun down certain paths with boosts. I had Pericles going ahead of Era on me but when I checked I still had more science and research completed.

Anyone else think the quotes and intros suck ass this time

>>158038614
A human in good shape can endure longer trips than just about any animal on the planet.

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>>158039002
Oh damn, shit I already rage quit too.

>theres no minimap replay at the end of the game
JUST FUCKING KILL ME

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Who should i play for 2nd game anons
I've effectively beat Prince, not that it was hard, so i just need to either stomp the other 9 leaders or finish up Science

Nippon anon btw

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Well this seems fair.

>>158039040
Sean Bean science quotes are mostly okay, kinda comfy.

The intros and wonder videos are a real step down.

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City-states don't expand, right?

I kind of wanted to place a new city to the right where all dem repeat luxuries are for trading. Also good food bonuses. Game doesn't reccomend it though because its too close to the city-state.

Although I suppose I could expand there with my third or so city since theres nothing north or east of that area except ocean. Don't have to worry about another civ claiming it early.

Meanwhile Harald and Saladman are west, so taking the south area would be good for area control maybe?

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>get rome cause it sounds OP as fuck
>tfw it is OP as fuck

I love it just for the forts. I find mountain pass choke points and fort it up every time. AI can't even army stack for surprise war cause they cant even get to my cities through the choke points.

>>158036829
Meanwhile rome gets +2 culture right from the start while getting free 50 production in every city for even more culture.

You could just pick god king with rome and greece would never be able to make up that production jumpstart while you still grab new policies faster.

Dont get me wrong, an extra policy is nice but not a game breaking advantage by any means and god king with urban planning isnt even close to overpowered by any means.

>>158039186
Anti-Cav lines are weak to Warrior lines

>>158039202
City states can begin expanding their borders a little, which depends on how many envoys are being sent to them.

l'm playing Greek as Pericles. And l just met another civilization who is Pericles of Greek.. His colour is different though.
ls this a bug that AI can be same civ as l am?

>>158034875 here
Found this little guide.
https://youtu.be/yGlRu8LnwGE
Really clears stuff up for me, so thought I'd share.

>Qin founds Taoism
>when Legalism is almost directly contradictory to Taoism and has more in common with even confucianism
What the actual fuck

>>158039202
Their boundaries expand from memory, but very slowly. I usually don't mind settling close to them.
Cities typically grow slower than in 4/5 anyway so its not that big a deal to lose out on a few spaces.

>>158039189
The science quotes don't give me a sense of progress or the scale of the accomplishment that this was to human civilization. They're just shitty jokes.

>>158039293
All lines are weak to an endless stream of other lines.

Waitaminute, where's the Stellaris download link?

>6 doesn't have the history screen like EU4
It's part of the fun of gsg titles

>>158039474
It's random. In my game I had Greek Shintoism and Egyptian Jews.

>>158039542
up ur butt lmfao

>>158039491
if they are in a good spot and get envoys outta the ass they can actually grow fuckhuge borders.

who /marathon/ here?

I started my first game on epic to test the waters, but after 2 hours playing everyone is on late medieval with just 3 shitty cities each and barely any army or anything else

science is just too easy even for the AI while building a district takes >30 turns
does marathon fix this or make it worse?

Why is the Civilopedia this time around so bad? I remember the Civ 5 one being fairly decent.

>>158039587
It also has the shitty plastic models for the wonders and buildings in the damn Civpedia

It's turn 80 and I still barely have an army while Arabia and Russia are trying to culturally enrich my capital with Islam.

>>158039692
I think it only becomes worse the longer the game goes on because you get more chances to get all those bonuses.

>>158038958
>>158039002
How to check their science? Do I have to send spy?

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>>158039692
>Marathon
>fun
Even standard feels way too long for me, god i cannot imagine Epic/Marathon

What the fuck are amenaties and why am I always out of them?

>run into montezuma
>i have two DoWs on me so he pities me
>tells me tlactel or whoever must be guiding me
>ok
>send my builder to an incense tile
>hit the improve button
>game freezes
>suddenly he's back on my screen
>he's screaming and yelling about how envious he is of me

what did i just do

>>158039846
happiness

>>158039692
Districts are expensive but units are fairly cheap to produce. On standard I had my whole continent embroiled in a war caused by city states and religion almost as soon as Archers entered the scene.

Victoria ported to SFM when???

WHY THE FUCKING FUCK FUCK WOULD YOU REMOVE TURN 0 AUTOSAVES AT THE BEGINNING FUCKING FUCK WHY

>>158039846
So you've never lived on your own huh.
They're luxuries that increase happiness.

>>158039801
Open up the screen with the victory conditions.
Hover over civ icons, there you can see their individual progress. Like for science how many techs they have.

>>158039889
If you have more than 3 military units per city or more than 15 total you're just wasting upkeep.

pls vote

http://www.strawpoll.me/11476171

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>richest nation in the game
>decide to build up my military to protect my gold
>run into negative gold per turn despite still having a massive stockpile
>vikings denounce me for having negative income
>mfw

>>158039801
The victory screen thing on the top right. Mouse over the civs and it'll say how many techs and science per turn you have.

Might need Diplomatic Access 1 at least, not sure though.

>>158039875
He doesn't like people having more luxury than him.

>>158034625
several ways, you can either scare them away from your city before they get to you if you catch them early (by moving into their zone of control,) or you can keep them from getting away quickly by putting a warrior and scout on either side of them after they have already seen your city to make them slow while you make more military units.

If you can get a unit on either side of the scout, it can only move one tile at a time, because you have zone of control in all 4 available hexes it can move to, so you can.

Now if it's too late entirely, you just need to drop whatever you're building and start making a couple slingers. You'll need to hold out against the raiding party. Then resume your construction.

>>158039186
Holy shit I didn't even realize how unfair it was.
The camps in woods, so I need a full turn of movement to attack it or take it and it's craping out a slinger or warrior literally every turn. There's solid mountain the north, the sea to the east, and frozen wastes to the south, this camp's standing between me an everything else and is producing military approximately a billion times faster than I can.
What the fuck can I even do?

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>>158035147
I'm tired of your fuckin memes, Firaxis

>>158039937
>>158040062
Thanks anons. It's just as you says, they have lower number of tech and science than me.

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>>158034115
Best Stellaris Gameplay/Overhaul mods?

anyone played Nips? Are they good?

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>>158040059
>Not denoucing them back by cleansing them

>>158040304
fuck off E.T

So I'm confused, with the removal of happiness there's no reason to play tall anymore is there?
I mean I don't see why I just would take any land available.

>>158040016
Tried playing marathon and it felt pretty broken.
Felt like I was the only one with marathon times whilst the AI might as well have been playing standard.

>>158040471
I did denounce them back and poured my new army into their lands and pushed their shit in.

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>>158040630

are there any mods for qt anime leaders yet

>>158037748
Brasil is in just to ride the olympics wave, nothing more.

>>158040441
none of them are updated yet for 1.3

>make civ6 cartoony and colourful
>mag the fog of war brown and ugly

>game looks brown and ugly

well done

>>158040468
Meiji Restoration seems alright, though I haven't played anyone else to really see how big an impact it was. Divine Wind is pretty much meaningless. I didn't even build Samurai as both my wars fell just either side of that tech era

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wtf...

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I finally made it over to the new world to spread my religion after taking over the home continent.

This will definitely be fun.

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>>158040792

how hard will early barbs get nerfed

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>>158038029
Wiz's response to criticism of the "soft" mid game was uniquely Paracuckolded: he just bogged down the opening game by making the intital pirate and alium menaces buffer. Now pirates and space amoebas require fleets in the thousands to clear, not hundreds, and this slows down your expansion. Or if RNGawd is against you, it kills you in the first 5 years before you even have a chance to get your defense fleet and most basic of infrastructure up. Leviathans look neat but really, it's just a bigger space critter.
The big problem Stellaris has is that it isn't fully a 4x, it's a grand strategy sandbox. And as it stands rioght now , it's a sandbox without a whole lot to do but blob and expand. It's ridiculous there isn't at least some EU tier trade system or some basic espionage options to fiddle around with. The diplo is greatly stunted compared to CK or EU, which have marriage offers, coalitions, trade embargos, plots,and claim fabrication flying around like clouds of bats, making things dynamic. Shit is happening in an EU game, long standing alliances break up , new ones form, personal unions rise and fall, colonial nations break away.
Stellaris either has watered down versions of these things, or lacks them completely., Pdicks even got caught using the Immersive Trade mod on a twitch stream and everyone got hyped thinking they were bringing trade routes into the game. But nope, Wiz was just mod mooching again.Something enough to mod the in studio game with it, but not enough to add it , even thoguh players have been clamoring for iit? Yes, it's silly, but I want to see the little merchant traders going to and fro at the spaceport, I want a simple visualization of how and where my trade is going, and if I'm being friendly and having open borders, I should get some little bit of extra tendies for it.
The star trek horizons full convert mod also showed how much you cpould do with event chains if you gave a shit and did a little writing .

>>158041270
Hopefully not at all

>>158041067
I swear AI are using their infinite gold reserves to buy units or some shit. Ridiculous.

>tfw you just realized Assange can't play civ 6 now unless someone throws a hard-drive through his window

>>158041395
>You are stuck in an embassy 24/7 all year
Not so bad
>You have no internet
OH GOD GET ME OUT

>>158040016
wtf all these standardfags

>>158041270
probably horse barbs will get nerfed a bit. decrease in spawning or something.

>>158041521
It's too slow on standard, let alone the other 2

So you can't rename Judaism to Banking now? Shit game.

>>158041314
I swear the AI just used it on Great Person in my games

>>158041639
This DESU, can't wait until a mod that lets me have my custom religion name on any religion icon.

>>158041639
>Can't rename non-standard religion icons
>Can't rename cities and never will because they tied them to achievements
>Can't rename Apostles which would actually be useful to separate my Martyrs from my Debaters from my Proselytizers

>only 6~ maps
>no world map
>no japan map
reeee

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> Dat Fallen Empire city background
W E W
L
A
D

>>158036389
You gotta build some military units anon. You can't tank up and just build ancient era wonders.

The only way to keep them from flexing on you like this is if you show force at your border, or at theirs.

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Nice try, Firaxis

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>>158041864
>included all the major features of BNW except the meme congress
>remove all the options instead

>>158041824
>>Can't rename cities and never will because they tied them to achievements
they said city naming will be in a patch soon.

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Is stellaris worth it without mods?

>>158042182
Is it worth removing your pants before taking a shit?

>>158041521
I will probably only start playing Epic/Marathon once the first DLC hits.

How do I purge my cities of foreign religion when I no longer have followers of my own in it?

>>158040016
where is quick

>>158042228
Removing them completely?

>>158042069

Isn't that Japan's background?

I haven't played Stellaris since v1.1.

Is the AI still ridiculously retarded when it came to combat?

I remember easily flooring a vastly superior AI with a concentrate fleet while they kept their armies spread out instead of massing them together to wipe me out.

>tfw get bored around 100 turns in with 3-5 cities
how do I not get bored? It might be just that I have no plan after the initial setup and just spam new things as they come.

Is it just me or is Civ VI infinitely more complicated than Civ V?

>>158042450
You need way too much knowledge that is very hard to access. Like, in theory, to play optimally you would need to take into account what wonders you will build in Modern era when deciding district placement in ancient era.

>>158042450
feels the same
districts are all simple things
civil tree might make it more complex but meh

>>158042450
There's a lot of shit going on yeah.
But you can generally ignore a bunch of it depending on your goal.

Maps in Civ VI feel a lot smaller.

>>158042182
yes, for a couple of play throughs.

when you start to get bored thats when you look for mods to spice things up.

Parafail has had months to produce good content for Stellaris
Waits until the day BEFORE civ 6 comes out to release some crappy leviathan story DLC
that has zero impact on most of the game.

Leviathan just sit there waiting for you to come wreck them.

What were they thinking?

>>158042069
Is this some Religion of Peace shenanigans?

>>158042731
Not all of them, some Leviathans will actually wander the galaxy and fuck your shit up if they wander into your territory.

>>158042610
How about theology wars and religion?

Piratefag here.
Glad I didn't pay for it.
t even mention I get to play it before guys who pay for it.
Pros:
-districts
-wonders
-strategic map
Seriously I play on strategic view only and it make me crave Upgraded Civ 2(with all of the old and new shit with nice 2d graphics).
Cons:
-AI, what the fuck it want and why its so retarded
-city screen, less info and more clunky
-fast tech and civics advance
-1 unit per tile is just terrible choice for civ
Why they don't bring back the old CIv 2 model with collateral damage?
Or at last make formations of armies and corps early and let them be bigger.
-old units walking around
They should be upgraded imo - some free upgrades when civs hit some eras or enough civs in world hit them.
Like you can be nigger tier civ but still your units get rifles(aka Militia, Partisans, trucks with heavy machine guns) - no access to professional soldiers or heavy or high tech equipment - also buying weapons from more advanced civ should be a thing.

Overall its not bad but not great either.

I could win on Diety in V

I'm losing on King here, or at least I'm behind.

What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>>158042984
Did you use Skidrow or somewhere else?

>>158042778
If you kill your enemies, they win.

>>158043068
Wage wars and kick their ass, the AI is shit at fighting them.

>>158042728
gets old that fast huh.. damn.

are any of the good ones on the nexus too?

>>158043153
Yep. Reloaded version.

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>tfw you follow the steps of a bronze age civilization throughout their history and watch them reach for the stars with their first satellites and manned missions to moon, only to witness a global nuclear war that wipes them out and turns their planet into a toxic shithole.

I should've uplifted them... If only I had uplifted them.

Is there a way to instantly skip to the choices when a Civ leader talks to you

>>158042427
Well the only way to find out is to play it again anon.

The game certainly seems to run a lot better than V did. That fucking "4 minute bootup is gone" and the game itself overall runs smoother, it just takes longer to load in a world when you start a new game.

>>158043251
there are a bunch of good ones, problem is that they're not updated yet for 1.3

give it a week or two

>>158043068
early game be prepared for the ai to go after you just for fun
get archers in your cities and watch their warriors tumble over and die every time they decide to poke you
after they lose some units they ask for peace and move on

>finally got in position with a sub to nuke rome because they were bitchy to me all game
>launch nuke
>it hits
>animation starts
>random bitch decides to talk to me
>placed at my capital after conversation
>miss some of the glorious nuke fun

Sumerian UU feels OP as shit costs as much as warrior roughly, available from turn 1, no upkeep cost, 30 strength and 3-4 movement. Get 2-3 and ride around the continent looting barbarians getting dem goody hut sacking bonuses. They feel better than classic era Horsemen because you don't need horses, 0 upkeep vs 2 upkeep // 30 strength vs 35

Considering how much of the early game revolves around dealing with barbs Sumerian bonus is really good

>>158042981
Religion feels pretty much the same as 5. Religious combat is kind of boring. The religious flipping from units getting defeated is kinda neat but otherwise the options are so limited.

I had a City State which let me choose my Apostle upgrades which I think gave me a pretty big advantage. Debaters to block their apostles, Translators and/or Proselytizers for the conversions. Maybe Martyrs if you're falling behind on Faith.

Doesn't help they can be blocked by having military units surround your city center though.

eui when

>>158043407
>early game be prepared for the ai to go after you just for fun

It did, Montezuma declared war on me on fucking turn 26 and I repelled him. Then again on turn 100 and I repelled him again, taking 2 of his cities. Around turn 200 I decided to wipe him out.

Everyone except Tomyris who I was allied with disliked me for it. For wiping out the guy who keeps starting wars and denouncing everyone.

>>158043339
Escape, but it fades out slowly.

Yes its real fucking annoying.

>>158043558
There's a difference between bringing down the North Korean regime and purging the country of life. Everyone hates Best Korea but we don't really want to have that to happen to them.

So if my tastes go
Civ3>Civ4>Civ 5 BNW>>>Civ 5 Vanilla
will I like this shit?

Is combat not fucking awful now? I hated how you had to take over Cities in Civ5 so much I never ever did it

>>158043407
The screen swapping around is horrible. Especially if a Wonder finishes at the same time a civic does and you click a button while its trying to catch up with itself.

Also when you take a units turn it quickly swaps to the next unit for orders and then does its UNIT NEEDS ORDERS thing after a brief pause and swaps to a different unit. Who the fuck left that in for release?

At least on Prince it feels like combat is the way to go. If you find ANY barbies near you you have to build 2-3 units, and if you build 2-3 units you might as well commit to an army. Am I missing something?

Also Tomyris looks INSANE. Can anyone compare when it comes to domination?

There's a shitton of barbs but they all seem retarded, they never get past my strategically placed scouts and attack arabia instead

>>158043558
Isn't there absolutely zero warmonger penalty in ancient era now? You're actively encouraged to be a shit starting fuckhead.

>Playing as kongo
>find relic inside goody hut
>free 2 production 2 food, 4 gold in capital on turn 4
holy shit

Something is wierd with my game. All of the characters' hair is offly colored, like it isn't being rendered right.

What do you do those games where you've got barbarians constantly attacking?

It's turn 112 and I just now managed to settle a second city because I've been forced to pump out military units every single turn AND spend all my gold on them.

I had 5 camps around me, and every time I killed one another would respawn. How the fuck do you deal with that?

gold seems to have pretty harsh diminishing returns the more you invest in generating it

religious victory is literally just spamming apostles after it's been founded for the entire game

barbs have insane numbers and will fuck your shit up

scouts are a lot less valuable than they were in civ 5

am I wrong on any of these?

>>158043717
There's a case to be made for Siege Towers and Rams, possibly if you're Rome or Japan or something but otherwise no, combat is still ruled by Crossbows and you probably won't like it.

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Look at this sorry little thing. It split even further into pieces.

How fucked up was this place in the first place lol

What's this tuner thing in the options menu that disable achievements do?

>>158043924

By year 200 I was almost in the Industrial Era, so not at that point.

Religious Victory needs some serious balancing

>played as Russia and build religious districts in every of my 10 cities because why not
>tried to go for culture or science victory
>notice I got something like 20,000 faith
>fill map with apostels
25 turns later I won

>Be China
>buy a worker with my gold reserves
>make him chop a forest
>start stonehenge
>make him finish 60% of the thing in 4 turns
This is totally overpowered

so how does flight combat work in civ 6

>>158044036

Tomyris tried that, all I had to do was ask her to leave me alone and she did.

>>158043963
Later on Scouts can become Rangers and they're not that bad as support for armies, especially if you picked up Guerilla.

>>158043934
Damn, only thing I've gotten so far is +4 faith, +8 tourism. Like ten times now.

>>158043934
its pretty good
try to check for other civs from time to time
they sell their relics for some copper

Does the Great Wall make it so you can't build a district there?

If so, why would you ever build it?

>>158043960
Conquer AI with the troops you built.

>>158043963
Scouts are still important as 3 movement is the difference between moving across grassland and a hill or forest or only moving into the plains

>>158044185
its always +4 faith and tourism
Kongo get additional bonus

>>158044185
>>158043934
What I thought they all give +1 Pop

I don't like new social policies mechanics.Hate to unblock shit and then never use it.

>>158044275

they're less important because stealing builders from city states is not worth the cost and time, and ruins are much more sparse and less impactful

also with the sea of barbs its much more worth it to just invest in a slinger imo

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>>158044185
>>158044315
>>158044409
>mfw getting nothing but +gold

>>158042069
>If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation
t. Saladin

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Where should I settle my capital at? I'm used to Civ V, are hills still good or should I go for the flat land? Should I move closer to the mountains?

>>158044427
Yeah, its bascially just a split technology tree.

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Anyone here want a free copy of Civ 5 complete? I forgot I bought a shit ton of them for gifts during the Christmas sale last year to give to my remaining friends who wanted it but couldn't buy as their presents. I have one copy I intended to give to my then girlfriend who never fixed her PC and we eventually split, and I just noticed it in my inventory. 6 is out and me and all my friends are onto that now. I'm going to ask the C listers on my friends list if they want it; and since they likely wont is anyone here interested in getting Civ 5 complete for free?

>>158039846

I'm always running out of amenities and housing, and it's so hard to get an option to increase amenities.

>>158044315
Huh. I"m going to have to go back and read all the descriptions now that I've got a better grasp on mechanics.

>>158044473
galleys are good scouters too imo, building two gives a eureka

>>158044524
You should move where you can build the districts in the right positions so you can place the wonders correctly.

Who knows.

The new fog of war is just bad design, the areas you've explored but can't see blend too much into the 'here be dragons' world map.

>>158044532
>Look through the later tech tree for neat stuff
>Just a sea of new military units and commerce district upgrades
>Go back to spamming Apostles

Not sure what they were thinking with the new Civic tree. Okay concept I guess but shit they really dropped the ball. Half the civics you barely want anyway

>>158044660
Also the minimap is useless.

>>158044524
early game rivers are the most important things
try to get a mountain at least 2 tiles away
hills are still important for extra production
being able to build harbors is important as well for the +1 trade route

>>158044524
1 down the river for Stonehenge

>>158039372
>>158039491

Alright.
So where do YOU guys think I should place the next settlement? East or South/Southwest?

>>158044702
I have my screen cluttered with policies its horrible to swap between the relevant ones.

Asian Civilizations for Cossacks 3 when?

>>158044524
Right there seems okay. A Holy Site or Campus can go on the forest hills to the east.

holy fucking shit
nothing short of a fucking act of god will let you catch barbarian scouts

>didnt invest into faith
>all religions taken
>fuck it
>take over my continent
>working on science victory
>nuking faggots trying to spread some bullshit
thats the life

>>158044825
>for Stonehenge
?
Doesn't stonehenge have to be built by stone?
There's already stone already adjacent to my hill.

Civ VI giveaway if anyone doesn't have it yet
https://gleam.io/LIXUM/civilization-vi-giveaway-join-the-steam-group-httpsteamcommunitycomgroupsfeverreaverstreams

>>158044903
it's hilarious because they all send barbs to my neighbor, dunno why

>>158044934
I'm just blind friend

>>158044917
Worship at the altar of Atheism.

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>>158044903
>he didn't build warcarts at the start of the game
oh right, you don't play Asyria

>>158044903
If you post an archer just outside of your borders it works because I think they have to actually touch your borders, not just see it.

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>tell Scythia to stop trying to convert my cities
>she doesn't, game even acknowledges she broke a promise
>denounce her, nobody likes her anyway
>casus beli war
>"wow how dare you attack Scythia you warmonger"
>denounced by everybody
I thought diplo would be better.

>>158045049
actually all my cities are converted to the religion of the last civ that lived with me on my continent
i thought we could be bros and share it but he was really creeping up on a religious victory so i had to kill him
its weird how i dont own the religion now though

Is it just me or is AI Gandhi massively ahead in Science in every game I play he is in ?

What the fuck is up with that ?