/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless Legend and 4X Games

In EL does the dock or altar district level up?
If not, it's best option for corner, right?

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>maps set to Continents
>huge size, 12 AI
>10 of the AI are on one mega continent blob

>set map to Island Plates
>large, 10 AI
>all of the islands are way too small

Really can't wait for map mods

>>158006046
All districts level up. It literally says what it does on lvl up on the tooltip.

God damn, is everything supposed to take this long? 20 turns to grow? 25 for an industrial district? It's turn 110, get a move on already!

>>158006079
All these people mad about continents making continents and islands making islands..

>>158006159
internal trade routes from smaller cities to capital helps
a lot

>>158006159
Look onthe bright side. You can have nukes before IRL electricity was invented.

>>158006079
>get a large island for myself
>half of it is flat featureless desert
>a quarter is flat featureless tundra coast with no fish
haha :D

Anyway, why is the Steam Workshop closed? The game already has a Mods tab.

>>158006159
>>158006216
This, connect smaller cities to bigger ones and they will grow reasonably well.
Also consider using builders to chop down some trees, clear marshes for food, or spend gold on stuff like mills and granaries.

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Going to play in order:
>Japan
>England
>Aztecs

Who are you all looking forward/already playing as?

How comfy is strategic mode?

My pc is below recommended specs, so I doubt I can play it on 1440p without strategic mode. I don't really play vidya anymore, and this would be the only game I would be playing.

>>158006216
Okay I'll use my one trade route for that, I don't need gold.
Commercial district, 23 turns. Something's gotta give!

Oh so the Wildcard Policy cards are consumable.

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>Civ 6
How do I stop unit hopping? Cannot find the option to disable it

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First game(playing on prince for the first 5-10 games or so to get a feel for the mechanics), got zerg rushed by sigurd while my army was fighting barbarians elsewhere and he took my capital on turn 89.

This is where I'm at in my second game. I have a nice situation set up here. I havea crescent shaped empire with Stockholm sitting right in the middle of it. I control Stockholm and La venta south of it out of rame, this pretty much keeps Sigurd boxed and I can focus on Spain.

I just crushed Spain's Army and now I'm gonna loot his empire while moving my army and siege weapons southward to take madrid and effectively cut Spain into 2 pieces and take control of a key isthmus at the same time. I gotta say I am impressed so far.

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>>158006292
Playing as Japan, its pretty good
Really looking forward to an Earth map to come out so I can finally play as Roosevelt in an extremely comfy game where NA is entirely mine to build on

>civ 6 runs infinitely better than civ 5
how did they dun it

>>158006332
It has the same feel as playing without it, since the new graphics look like shit.

>have to manually reselect the district projects everytime they finish
this is the most tedious fuckin thing

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Should I be worried? He hasn't declared war or denounced me yet but a surprise attack would ruin me.

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Did Stellaris finally become fun again?

I'm constantly getting war decced so it's actually a challenge in the mid game now.
AI still seems pretty retarded though and bugs are still rampant.

>>158006631
he is literally about to declare war on you

>>158006631

yes be worried. That city is at his mercy.

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Am I fucked? This thing just showed up in one of my systems.

>>158006631
>playing sim city in 4x

Nigga build troops. Explore the rest of the world. Expand more. Exterminate your neighbors. Exploit their lands.

>>158006046
I does level up. If you can't possibly put it adjacent to 4 districts, then the placement doesn't matter, all embarkations/disembarkations will cost 1 movement for this region. Not sure about sea trade routes, so I guess it's better to put it on a coast tile just to be sure.

wait so building units takes away from your pop?

interdasting

>>158006781
Combined your fleets and fight that fucker

Also
>wraith wraith

>>158006637
>AI still seems pretty retarded
How does it seem retarded on any level? I have noticed a few quirks in the AI, but it seems pretty solid, albeit basic. How can you say it's retarded?

> bugs are still rampant
Rampant? Really? List 10 actual bugs you noticed in a playthrough.

>>158007002
only settlers

>>158007004
It killed them with no armour loss. Now it's running around my systems just fucking everything up.

I've got a save when it first showed up so... maybe I can think of something to do.

>>158007025
>he doesnt follow /civ4xg/ memes
Its cool to hate on stellaris dog

>>158007025
They still suck at mounting any reasonably successful planetary invasions.

>Teddy hates other civs waging war in his continent, whether it's other civs or cs
>but is fine waging war himself against city states

I honestly love stuff like this. I think other civs like Catherine have that "hypocrisy" aspect on them.

>>158007079
>It killed them with no armour loss.
Jesus, what are you using on your ships?

Sounds like you didnt have particularly good gear on your ships. You cant just spam 1 ship type anymore you know.

>>158007139
Tier V lasers, Tier V shields, Tier V armor, Torpedos. I think we're both underestimating how OP this thing is because it one shot one of my mining stations, that has 2000 health.

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>My physical copy came with a fabric map, as well as the ost and Aztecs
Noice

>>158006631

interested to know how this situation turned out.

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>>158007205
Just try talking to it, anon. Diplomacy is always the answer.

>>158007205
Mining stations are pretty weak

Does it use flagellants? Do you have any point defense to counter it?

Torpedoes are worthless against a monster like this by the way. You need as many large guns as possible that ignore armor.

>>158007275
no you're not the only one

but you're still wrong

>china keeps waging war constantly throughout the entire game
>last time they wage wore I sack two of their cities

>They now denounce me calling me a war monger 24/7 even though they declared war every time

>>158007369
>>158007205
Oh, and if you have access to one of those information stations you can give them credits to tell you on how to defeat things.

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>>158007281
10 turns later and...nothing. Switched government type to see if there's any change to relations. Just a +1 from -1. Used up my cash reserve to buy up pikemen to counter his chariots. Maybe it just paranoia since our borders are too close with each other.

>>158007275
Play it in mobile mod- I mean strategic mode.

Looks better.

>>158007419
>cant accept a nations defeat and spend a small amount of resources to help them rebuild to reduce warmongering score
>Even though this is literally what states do all the time e.g. Jap/US
Why cant Civ have more depth, seriously.

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Is Civ VI better than base V?

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Is this good for commercial?

>>158007419
>another country declares war on me
>genocide them and destroy their cities utterly
>"lolwut, they attacked me, how am i the bad guy??"

>>158007569
Yes but thats not saying much

So the reason they have like 4 fucking soldiers in a unit is because you can combine them right and they wanted something visual? They have more then?

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>>158007516
He´s already planning your downfall, don´t worry.

>>158007569
if your only gripe with civ vi is the graphics then yeah, pretty much

but no one will really know until like a week later

>>158007569

Too early to tell.

how long until a fate/stay night mod releases to replace Gilgamesh with the true King of Kings?

i want my blonde haired, red eyed bishie fuckboi godammit

>>158007583
I really hope you dont live in any modern country because otherwise you're being incredibly hypocritical.

So anybody that played mp, is de-syncing a feature in Civ 6 like the old one?

>>158007658
Unless I am in charge of foreign policy for a decade or more, no, I am not being a hypocrite.
Besides, being hypocritical wouldn't make me wrong.

>It just installed
See you all in a few hours, unless something magic happens

:^)

jesus fuck science victory takes way too long to finish

Nukes are strong as shit

None of this half city damage bullshit, nukes straight up delete you from existence

>>158007695
>being hypocritical wouldn't make me wrong.
Yes, it would. Learn what hypocrisy means.

>>158007791
A doctor tells you that smoking is bad and you should stop smoking, while he himself is smoking.
He is being hypocritical, but isn't wrong.

Being hypocritical doesn't make you wrong. Learn what hypocrisy means.

>>158007741

Thats awesome. Do they have unlimited range again?

>>158007570
Tooltip in tech tree says +2 for each adjacent river, but I guess that counts as one river?

>>158007826
>using an example that conveniently makes you right rather than the one you were arguing that makes you wrong
Here is your last (you) shitposter.

>>158007658
What's hypocritical about that?

If someone starts a fight with you, you're entitled to use whatever force necessary to defend yourself. Burning cities to the ground and massacring their people is not necessary to defend yourself.

>>158007930
Being a hypocrite doesn't mean you are wrong. Literally Arguing 101. Go back to school, child.

>hes started samefagging on his phone to save face
Oh /civ4xg/, never change.

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>>158006379

Got Madrid. Spain was the biggest threat on this continent and I just cut his empire into 2 pieces. Montezuma and Sigurdsson are both weak and should be easy enough to take down. I think this continent is mine to take now.

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>Actual cloth map with the boxed edition

Thanks for the handkerchief Sid, I always wanted to literally wipe my nose on Africa

How the fuck can I exit escort formation? I linked 3 units and the option is greyed out in all of them.

>>158008035
>he is so unwilling to admit fault that he will make up conspiracy theories

Oh shitposters, please change.

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What does "zone of control" mean. This is a crossbowman upgrade btw.

>>158007369
>>158007421
It's not the fact that it killed a mining station it's that it killed it the second it got in range.

I also took a peek in the files, it's a 150-250 damage beam weapon that ignores 50% of armor that shoots once per second. It also has 6 of these.

It also has 20,000 health, and some insane amount of regeneration Might just be 4% regeneration, but it seemed higher than that., 75% evasion, and 150 armor.

What the fuck.

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>>158008054
>this post

What's the "Ruleset" for in the Advanced Map Options? It only shows Standard.

>>158008282
Which game?

>>158007583
???
I didn't raze their city. I just took it :^)
Why start shit if you can't handle me taking your cities

>>158008265
Oh yeah and they have 75% tracking. So no evasion for you.

>>158008246
In Civ V, zone of control was something melee infantry did.
Basically if you start your turn next to a melee infantry, and you want to move to another tile, you only move 1 tile per turn.

Like Attack of Opportunity rules for D&D, except it reduces move speed rather than proccing attacks.

>>158008307
CiVI

>>158008328
>i just tortured and killed him in self defense, i'm not a bad guy

Again, defending yourself isn't the same as conquering cities.
Stalin wasn't celebrated as a good guy after WWII, despite "defending himself", because he took half of Europe in that defense.

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Japan has a coastal bias they said
It'll be fine they said

>>158008246
Is this literally your first civilization game? ZoC forbids units from moving more than one tile if both of them are near hostile combat units.

>>158008410
Thats a legit amazing start and you are a fag for complaining.
Coast capital isn't even that good unless you are Scandinavia.

>>158008409
The reasons why stalin was hated wasn't just for attacking enemies.
You are being naive

>>158008460
Look, I am trying to explain to you something very obvious, so I use an example even my dog would comprehend. Don't go writing a thesis about it, the idea is that defending yourself from an attack doesn't include conquering land.
If you conquer, you will be disliked. The conquering part matters, not who started the fight. Its perfectly sensible.

>>158008410
The river identifies as an ocean, pls do not oppress

warscore is still fucking shit in stellaris

>want to cede one planet (requires 17% warscore)
>have occupied planet with army and bombarding their homeworld which gives me a warscore of 22%
>they have 1 other planet
>can't force them to peace because lol arbitraily raise warscore demands due to length of war
>send demands anyway
>they laugh at me and tell me im losing the war
>they have literally no ships left
BRAVO PARAKEKS

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>try to get a kill with slinger for a boost
>barb spearman takes off and starts running away across entire pangaea while I chase him with a warrior and a slinger
>discover 2 world wonders and meet 3 civs during the chase
>after 20 turns or so he runs into an egyptian warrior, killing himself
Fuck, I understand scouts being all sneaky, but normal barbs should stand their fucking ground and fight. He didn't even retreat to his barb camp, he just ran wherever he could. And this new movement system makes it so annoying to do navigate terrain.

>>158008445
I'm not complaining about the tiles, more about the lack of coast

The resources are sexy as

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>>158008410
That river will grow up to be a glorious ocean one day, anon. Don´t bully.

tf is the difference between alliance and defensive pact?

>>158008651
Can you harvest that marsh?

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>Don't worry anon only 10/20 leaders are in this map
>Meet this guy first
Well i'm boned

how to fix MSVCP140.dll missing from torrent

>>158008676
One pulls you into war after a vote and lets you make war demands.

The other you don't have to help them if THEY declare war, but if someone declares war on them you automatically join.

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>>158007516
I can feel the noose tightening. Fucking Jews became his greatest ally.

>>158008676
alliance goes to war together
defensive pack means you both go to war with person attacking either of you but you initiate war by yourself.

Religious victory seems like the hardest. It just takes so much time/resources to convert late game cities, especially if they resist.

I'm at 350 faith per turn but Im still gonna win culture before religion.

>>158008676
You could probably figure that out yourself, but a defensive pact will only pull you into war if one of the pact members gets attacked while an alliance does the same but also allows you to go to war together offensively.

>>158008746
By after a vote does that mean we agree to go to war together, or if he declares/attacked I'll also be
pulled straight in?
Like no one has attacked me and I can defend myself. So I don't want to do alliance shit if it will just put me in pointless wars

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>>158008741
Same thing happened to me
Protip: Don't scout or get any luxuries or he'll shove his UU right up your ass

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>>158008731
That´s a beautiful natural wonder, you monster!

>>158008731

Its a natural wonder pantanal

>>158008847
>>158008852
but muh food

>>158008829
You can vote on the wars in an alliance. But if someone's that much of a warmonger that you keep voting no they'll actually leave.

>>158008841
but anon >>158008410 was my start

:^)

>>158008829
In an alliance offensive wars are voted on. All alliance members have to vote yes on an offensive war in order to actually declare it.

>>158008731

Thats pantanal, I have it in my game here(top right near boston) >>158008039

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>>158008841
Good thing i´m too busy spamming units to deal WITH FUCKING BARBARIAN FLOODING MY CAPITAL to even care about that luxury right next to it.

>>158008874
>>158008898
Thanks bb

>>158008741
>he declares surprise war
>genghis queen mad as fuck
>declares war on him immediately

Also a funny thing to do is lose units to him (I did unintentionally lose a warrior and scouts and I think a chariot), which gives him workers, which you can then capture back.

what is the best way to get over to another continent to explore it?

>>158009023
Embark?

>>158009023
believe

>try occ
>have all the buildings in the theatre district
>have all the buildings in the campus district
>only making 25~ culture and science per turn
>renaissance era techs are taking 30 turns on standard speed
>prince ai is already in industrial era
>my capital is only like 2 population higher than everyone else's capital
Where were you when tall was kill?

Guys is changing game speed also change production costs?
Also what you can do to increase tech and civics cost without increasing building costs?

>>158009229
make less cities to increase time it takes to tech

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Ok i might take it back about this non coast start

>>158009253
What settings make tech time slower, but production the same/quicker? So you spend a lot more time in eras fighting, etc

>on a continent with victoria, teddy and girl genghis
>victoria declares surprised war on me
>teddy and girl genghis also declare surprise war for me
What the h*ck happened to their agenda

>first match of endless legends
>doing pretty well for myself as Drakken. really messed up my boroughs though
>see bugdude's unit
>only has 2 guys
>psh ez i'll take it out since he can't be my friend anyway
>sick 7 guys and a hero on it
>6 dead and now he has a 9 guy unit

I was not prepared.

>>158009335
A very common early trade deal is "i give you gold and resource if you help me beat up that guy".
Joint war, nigga, use it.

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What's the best Panth for this start?
I was thinking Festival Goddess

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still not skipping anything sean bean says

>>158009564
You have 3 copies of the same resource, pick whatever gives it extra yields.

So what's the first impression of Civ 6 so far?

>>158009564
>not picking sea god for maximum nip RP

>>158009731

God-tier soundtrack that may outdo IV

>Read /v/'s civ thread
>I liked the new fog of war until i realized what a stupid meme it was
I never learn

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>>158009373
>His face when he just got 6 free battleborn off of you

Yeah I would definitely recommend trying out Necrophage (or all factions really) at least once just so you understand how they function and how to fight them.
Particularly for Necrophage, Proliferators are maximum priority targets and it's also nice to attempt to kill off disease carriers with ranged units before they reach your front line.

>Playing Hungry Bugs and rolling across the map with 50+ doomstacks
Churns through Dust like nothing else though.

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I won, right?

>wide is better science
>wide is better culture
>wide is better production
>wide is better faith
>wide is better tourism
>wide is better money
>wide is better great people generation
>wide is better for adjacency bonuses

>>158009785
Is it the same guy making it? That asian dude?

anyone play Civilization VI on mac successfully yet?

>>158009859

Really? That sucks, no tall play at all possible then?

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>>158009850
>filename
Why would you do this, anon?

>>158010032
you can do it, it's just not really that optimal especially with housing being so restrictive

>tfw on good terms with 6/7 of the AI
>all the AI hate each other and war

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>>158010050
>settle
>see more
>silk

>>158010164
Gotta marsh to the south to see if you have any NEIGHbors.

>>158009939

He wrote the main theme, the nation soundtracks were written by different people

I am p confused.
Takes 1 aluminum to make a jet, but I can make more than 1 ???

>>158010245
you've got to be squidding me they are all to the north east

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where go senpaitachi? Here or one to the right?

>>158010276

You only need a single unit of a strategic resource to be able to build everything with no limitation.

How do I install it. I never seen this happen with any game

>>158010427
wew thanks.
So for all strategic resources it's stupid to have more than 1? What about luxury resources

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>>158010446
Forget picture

>>158010524
Just install and run the game, should be added along the way.

>>158010462

1 luxury resource gives +1 amenities for up to 4 cities, so you'll need more than one if you go wide.

>classical era
>everyone is ok with me except spain
>arabia wars spain
>i denounce spain
>wait 5 turns
>declare a formal war
>suddenly everyone denounces me including arabia

light warmongering penalty my ass.

>>158010575
Game is already installed
Lauched it did a Bentchmark do some shit in settings closed it and still says not installed

>>158010423
Well don´t give them the cold shoulder now, anon.

>>158009802
>read /v/
found your problem

This is a PSA to inform you all that you can disable civ 6's infuriating and disorienting automatic unit cycling behaviour by setting AutoUnitCycle to 0 in ~/Documents/My Games/Sid Meier's Civilization VI/UserOptions.txt

how does tourism actually work ? i found no dedicated screen

is it like civ V where you get bonuses to conquering those you influence the most ?

So is CIVI worth the bux?

>>158010643
really?

>>158010276
>>158010580

So whats the point of fighting for resources then?

Why'd they move away from the more realistic graphics?
I really liked the aesthetics of Civ V better.

>>158010628
I wont, im not a frosty neighbor

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>>158010679

Pls respond.

Can I enjoy being an ebin Catholic crusader this game?

>Be Greece
>Arabia declares war on you in the 30th turn

Bravo Firaxis, B R A V O. Just like real life

>>158010746

Strategic resources are rarer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQYN2P3E06s
>This theme

>>158010575
nvm It says not installed but I can select Aztec ingame

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>>158010858

1453 incoming

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>>158010837

I repeat:

Is the game good? Is an expansion-oriented Spain fun to play?

>>158009859
>>158010032
>having more cities should be just as good as having less cities
Is tall vs wide the most retarded thing that happened to Civilization and 4X genre as a whole?

>>158011009
Problems:
1)AI
2)UI
3)Art

If you don't mind them, it's a good civ game. I'll stick to BDSM fairies untill EUI or a patch.

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>implying that the 2 scout strat isn't OP is fuck
All these little bonuses :3

Also Monty had a shit fit about muh incense

First game as Sumeria and they seem hella good, building war chariots instead of scouts early on with 2 chariots I was roaming the continent, scouting everything, killing every barbarian and clearing every camp I met without any issues, getting constant goodie hut rewards like more pop, eureka boosts and free builders (by turn 40 I now have 4 free builders)

One ziggurat already doubled my early game research and culture.

My main complaints so far are that turn times seem to take really long even at very early stages of game and that you cannot turn off the auto unit cycling.

Still game has very comfy feel, I found the first 50 turns as Sumeria to be more interesting already than my usual Civ 5 games by far.

>>158011095
None of these are worse than other games in the series.

>>158010782
easier on lower grade PC, and because civ isn't realistic, you can always make a mod for it, if you.

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>>158011095
>1)AI

Not really a problem if the AI is bad in the sense that I can cut through their forces like butter. Ez is comfy.

>2)UI

I don't think this would be that much of an issue.

>3)Art

Strategic view looks dope though.

Thanks for the response anyways. Have a rare Pope as compensation.

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>>158011009
>>158010837
i played about 10 hours so far, in my opinion :

>pros
-district system is a lot of fun
-having unique great people/city state instead of generic ones
-civics give you a ton of choice
-the new diplomacy system

>cons
-i don't think the game map looks great
-i don't think the leaders do either
-i miss the world council

>city screen shows you the second to last buil`t building instead of the last built

What the flying fuck firaxis? How did this get past any of your testers, how did this get past all the fucking youtubers?

so can you just swap in an anti-barb card for the turn you're fighting them then swap the military card out for something else next turn?

>>158011141
Meeting several city states early can be such an insane boost. I was first to meet 6 city states in my game as Sumeria exploring with the war chariots + two free scouts from goodie huts. Stockholm giving you +2 science, +4 faith from other religious city states, +4 gold from Jakarta etc. Huge boosts early on

I don't remember jet bombers being this good in the last civ. They are a lot of fun to use

>>158010782
>>158011095
I actually really like the new graphics considering the non-realistic board game style.

It makes more sense having a horse the same size as a city if its clear they aren't realistic

So, ISIS is unironically the best civ for science?

HOW PROMOTE UNITS

>>158011347
but muh Islamic Golden Age

>mfw Spearmen kills enemy by impaling them on a spear and then throwing them to the back
the graphics are subjective but the animations are pretty good

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>>158010643
thanks for fixing the game for me

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H-Help

Downloading now and wondering if it's even worth the time. Is the AI improved over V? I've heard it's a lot better, though this thread makes it seem like it's still horseshit. I'm assuming the facebook game graphics mean it runs good on toasters? Is it a downgraded Civ V like that space one?

>>158011505
wait until all the dlc and the steam sale

Im not sure how I feel about Civ 6. The map edge scrolling is not nearly as smooth as V, and auto unit cycle is even worse. Overall UI navigation is clunkier as well.

Early units don't make much sense IMO and neither does the tech tree. How are Spearman weak to Warriors? The game just doesn't feel smooth, it doesn't feel like it's polished at all. And on top of that the menus and game setups are horrible. Why didnt they keep the Leader + Civ description layout the same as V during selection? It was fine the way it was.

I also really hate the new health bars and combat previews, along with overall UI movement outlines. I'm 2 hours into a Japan playthrough and I don't even feel hooked like I was the first time I played Civ V because of all these little things.

>>158011545
torrent my man

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>2 Wonders a million miles away
fuck

>>158011461

>No proper military against a neighbour who gets an Ancient Era UU

You fuk

>only ever played master of orion 2
>want to dive into a similar game after the hueg disappointment that was master of orion
>see stellaris trailer
is it worth it?
any other suggestions?

Anyone else getting some minor performance issues? My FPS sometimes dips down to 50ish on the main map screen. The leader screens can be worse, it goes down as far as 30 sometimes. No idea what's causing it, I'm not playing on a toaster or anything.

>>158011552
You can turn off the auto cycling >>158010643

I don't understand how not having an option for this ended up in the release build. I've never heard of anyone who likes it.

Seems I ran into some bug. I can't make deals or friendships etc with anyone anymore. It all happened after I took a city from someone and gave it back to the dude that was eliminated hours ago

>>158011675
Everything I built got smashed by barb mounted units flooding me
and now Cleopatra is getting spitroasted by Peter the Great and Gilgamesh

From what I gathered, restart game and auto-cycle option should be in the menu since it was there in early builds.

>>158011709
Yes.

Leader screens dip to what looks like a choppy 30 despite running it on a good PC on highest everything. I benchmarked pretty high and I should be able to max it out but still have performance hiccups.

>>158011739
rule 34 here we go

Who's your preferred leader?
Mine's Montezuma.

I WANT TO KILL AUTO UNIT CYCLE
IT'S ACTUALLY DETRIMENTAL AND NOT AT ALL HELPFUL

>>158011690
Its gud

>>158008743
it's not missing from the torrent
that's basic shit everyone should have
you don't complain when the torrent doesn't come with fucking directx
just google it and install the redist it comes in you inapt noob

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Gotta get 'em early lads
He's such a qt birdman

When will they add Hitler as Germany's leader?

Yuck Civ VI looks cluttered as fuck, ugly colors, and almost as if it wasnt 3D

>>158011775
Oh well, at least it's not just me. Hopefully it's an optimisation issue on their end that gets ironed out.

>>158011690
Stellaris is good for ~5 games with the new expansion. It's kinda like skyrim - it looks good, feels good, but the moment you start digging you realise that you are in a puddle, not an ocean.

If you are looking for modern games:
Endless Space - good but fundamentally flawed game, AI likes to cheat. Combat system is love it or hate it.
ES2 - essentially ES1 with more better everything, but in early beta.
GalCiv2 - very solid title, all round good, biggest flaw is no player input on combat.
GalCiv3 - mediocre but more modern version of the above.
Sword of the stars - Great faction, tech and tactics variety, fuckall attention to "exploit" part of the planetary colonisation.
Sins of a solar empire - RTS take on 4xl quite good, but mostly shines in MP.

When a city is ready to expand its borders, is there any way I can choose which to tile to take, or am I stuck with the AI deciding?

>>158011942
he will suddenly appear on the workshop one day, under an anonymous user who's IP can be traced back to the HQ

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About time
Stupid movement costs

Whats this auto unit cycle that everyones angry about? Like, what does it mean

How to promote gals?

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>stuck on a spit of land with 3 cultural states and 2 natural wonders
>the only land connection to the mainland is a small path to the south which is protected by Brazil
>10 viable city locations
Its about to get comfy in here

>>158012069
when you begin your turn the camera moves to a unit that has unassigned movement points
>>158012075 post a screenie

>>158012120
get dat chokepoint

Are there hotkey mods for endless legend? I would really like to bind army actions to Number keys.

>2016
>still no borderless window
What the fuck is wrong with 2K?

>>158012241
what do you mean? civ 5 had borderless window

>>158012241
But there is bordeless window.

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>>158012241
here take this (You), although I will concede that it was retarded that it's not the default in 2016

>>158012329
You do realise that BW is a hit to performance?

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>>158012198
>when you spend more time planning how you'll play than actually playing

How do I repair tiles?

So Steam workshop mods in multiplayer. What are the odds someone can make a teams mod in the event they dont fix/bring back teams?

>>158012065
>he didn't explore half the map, meeting several city states and a few civilizations while chasing down a scout to get that slinger kill

Casual.

Just started my first run in Civ VI, coming from Civ V.

The UI seems a little cluttered at first, hoping it gets better.
While I think the fog of war is cool, it only serves to clutter the interface even more.

>>158012365
>performance
It's Civilization. You don't need a fluent 144 FPS.

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Merchant republic is so FUCKING good. If you're not beelining straight for it after grabbing classical republic, you're a fucking RETARD.

>>158012069
Every time you issue a command to a unit, the game chooses a unit that hasn't moved - seemingly at random - pans the camera over to wherever the hell it is and then selects it. In the mean time you can be trying to issue orders to another unit that you selected near the first one and it'll drag your camera around and make you move things where you didn't want to move them and generally just fuck you around.

It's literally like trying to play a game and your dipshit little brother keeps trying to grab the mouse and do whatever dumb thing he wants to do.

>>158012697
I urge you to reconsider this heresy. But seriously, it's not BW on default because if people who know fuckall about computers and have a potato are gonna play it, they want to give them maximum performance possible.

>getting comfy with the based murrican banjo plucking
>EXPLOSION HOLY SHIT ZOOM IN YOU JUST COMPLETED FORBIDDEN CITY NIGGER LOUD NOISES
>banjo

fucking game is trying to give me a heart attack

>cant click the tile a unit is on to select it

BRAVO FIRAXIS

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Monty might have beat me to Stonehenge, but i got this qt

>when you lose a triple promoted crossbow because the game randomly decides to autocycle to it while you think you're moving a different unit

I see beta testers are hard at work.

>>158012842
It should be on as default if the game detects 2 screens.

What's the best game speed for a beginner?

Civ 6.

What time setting do you have to play in for actually reasonable time framing?
On normal you reach the Middle Ages around 1ad and the 20th century by 1500 every time.

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>sumeria brings an army of 30 or so war carts to my front door
>whip out half a dozen infantry
>"either move your army or I'll rip them apart myself"
>mfw

Civ6 better or worse than Civ4/5?

>>158013161
He gon cuck u like he does all the people in Ur

what are your guy's go to game options so far?

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>chilling in the southern part of the map, doing nothing hostile
>Cleopatra the cunt denounces me because apparently she hates weak rulers with no troops
>whatever, ignore her
>trading with a city state I'm friendly with and sent envoys to and Cleopatra fucking conquers
>that's it, fuck this, gather my horsemen, archers, and ram to attack Cleopatra and I take one of her cities
>Japan, Brazil, and Aztecs all declare on me

Well, I guess this is fucking Civ.

>>158012120
That is a shit ton of resources

>>158013123
or you could just change it to BW yourself, autist

>>158013135

Anyone?

>>158013171
Its better than both, but since competition has gotten better as well it isnt that great.

>>158013763
whats the best 4x around then, that's as accessible as Civ6?

Alright first game on prince difficulty.
I founded my first city and there are 4 barbarian camps around me.

Am I just incredibly unlucky or is it because I have a pirated copy

>>158013839
>whats the best 4x around then
Endless Legend

>as accessible
Stellaris

><Turn 10 war dec by Hojo
>6 warriors
>Turn 15 defeat

>>158013881
nice try

>>158013730
just play on default, kiddo. It wonn't matter

>>158013946
>VI
>better than EL
>VI
>more accessible than Stellaris
Nice try pointing out the obvious? I guess so.

>>158013857
That would be funny if they added a pirate detector and every city you found spawns an additional 4 barb camps.

>>158013881
idunno if i'd call endless legend the best 4x. It's a lot of fun though

>>158014005

Okay. Thank you for responding!

Will Steam mods fix barbarians?

>>158014179
whats wrong with them?

So is ICS back? Can I finally make an endless human hive civ 4 style?

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>>158010892
I actually teared up a little. It's beautiful. Worthy successor to Baba Yetu imo.

>>158014207
They're too aggressive and spawn at an unrealistic rate. This isn't just whining. This is a 'if you spawn near a horse camp above Prince you might as well restart.' which is bad design.

Endlessfags still at it I see, surprised they're not talking about ES2.

>>158014082
I mean, it's at this moment, has no equal. If you dislike some of it's design decisions, i.e. no workers, tech bubbles, combat, or even art, you are gonna like it less than civ, but if you do, it pretty much outmatches all other games in polish/depth/replayability.

So is it worth the buy gents? Or wait?

Okay can someone explain to me why the fuck do the barbarian scouts seem to be capable of teleporting?

>>158014404
Have they came out with many new updates? I probably played it a year ago before they came out with that new faction that looked pretty shit.

I'll have to play it again sometime

I dont' understand shit in Civ VI.
I had hoped some of my knowledge from Civ V would translate, but it's just so immensely different.

What the shit is faith?
What the shit is up with policies?
Civic what?
Envoy? What the fuck is that?
How do I make allies with City-States?

The most positive thing about Civ VI so far is the music and the narration.

>>158014446
Well, it has got quite a few, forgotten, and I still have the urge to type forsaken, added espionage to the game, Tempest made seas actually relevant rather than that thing you use to walk between continents.

>still can't start a game with no other civilisations

whyyyyyyyyy

>>158014306
Orrrrr.. maybe this time around you should actually make units?

>>158014540

I'm pretty comfortable with all the new systems except for shit like envoys and inspiration.

And also just generally not knowing what the fuck I'm doing early.

>>158014794
What I said was a factual statement not a casual observation. Its been demonstrated by many sources. On higher difficulties you cannot outpace barbarians early game if you get a bad start with them.

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I'm so borrrrrrrrrrrrrrred
Also
>dead player before 100 turns

>>158014872
I saw 8 warrior armies from other civs come at people by turn 40 on King.

>>158014872
>On higher difficulties you cannot outpace barbarians early game if you get a bad start with them.
You do realise the best way to deal with barbs always was to dig in and wait for tech to roll over them? That still works fine.

>>158014961

but muh tech boost

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>researchs are too fast
>buildings are too slow
>core balance issues in current year

>>158014961
Nah Marbozir even tweeted recently on his first few attempts at deity that the barbs put him down. If he cant do it how can 99% of the playerbase?

Great Lighthouse or Colossus as Japan anons?

>>158014897
got one at turn 39 playing on quick, it has to be those fucking barbarians

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Is the game good? I want an honest answer pls, before I buy.

>>158015026
>99% of the playerbase
>deity

>first few attempts
>he cant

Are you for real?

>>158012748
how do you get a legacy bonus

>>158015081
Maybe.

>>158015081

Civ games are always meh on release and only hit GOAT status later, but I'm enjoying myself.

>>158015081
yes. its not 10/10 and has a good amount of flaws, but its still a really good game.

>>158013091
just change it in the unit files

>>158015158
What good is a game if its highest difficulty is literally impossible unless you get a perfect rng setup? Cant wait for mods to weaken barbarians. I dont want them gone entirely, but back to being a nuisance. Gonna rate the game poorly though.

>>158015081
>wanting a real answer on day two

>>158013519
maybe use a casus beli, or look at global alliances

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Is Civilization VI multiplayer AI fully capable and interactive, or is it castrated like it was in Civilization V?

What's the max distance I can plant a city to make use of Rome's passive route creation?

>>158014540
faith is getting religions, which was in civ 5
policies became civics, where you research them, then make a goverment and can use so many policies
envoys is hwat you send to city states instead of gold

watch marbozir's videos on YouTube

>>158015402
15 I think. Land trade route distance is listed in the civopedia.

>>158015081
The earlier ones was better.

>I bought it

I still do not understand why.
I don't give a single fuck about multiplayer so I literally had no reason to buy it. At all.
Why didn't I wait to see if it has denuvo or not.
WHAT AM I, FUCKING RETARDED?

At least it better be fun.

>>158015265
I'm gonna pretend this isn't bait. First, barbs, may need tweaking, but one day worth of inexperienced newbies getting smashed by them is not a mark where you make that sort of decision. Secondly, your argument that diety should always be winnable no matter the setup is flat out stupid. If your victory chance on highest settings with near perfect decision making of a grognard is above 90% your game is broken. Why? Because that means grognards, who this difficulty is made for, will eventually get utterly bored of it.

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Why is Philip so cheeky anons?

>>158015575
Deity in 5 was designed so you could win with pretty much any start short of maybe a desert or tundra with absolutely no flood plains or resources.

>Start up a marathon game
>Brazil declares war on me 10 turns in with 4 warriors at my border before I can even build a scout
Okay.

I know you guys hate hearing this but which civ is now best for building >tall? Like 4 or so cities.

>>158015594
His hatred for heretics barely breaks even with his love for South American goldbux

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>War with Aztec neighbors
>Be Greece
>Only have hoplites
Fugg :DD

>>158015669
People will defend it as good game design and the Souls meme of "git gud" until it start happening to them.

>>158015081
Not really, no.

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>>158015704
>tall

What's "tall"?
I'm new.

>>158015942
he literally just said what's tall

>>158015704
Kongo

>>158015704
China. Less than 8 cities in 6 is not tall, it's stupid.

>>158015969
Flew right over your had that one, didn't it?

>>158015942
tall is a few cities, but they are densly populated.

>>158015969

What?
Having 4 cities?

>>158015523
Is this real?

>>158016006
Endless sprawl is bad game design though. They seem to have removed any detriments to going super wide and just slapping down tiny shanty towns every few tiles short of the increasing but still negligible cost of settlers.

>>158015162

The longer you maintain a specific form of government (oligarchy, republic, etc), the better your legacy bonus becomes when you switch.

>>158016110
That's one of the Hidden Agendas possible, yes.

I bet Gandhi is programmed to get it more often than most leaders, though.

>>158016114
Inb4 wave of "thats how real life is" comments

>>158016114

It's soft-capped by population growth, no?

>>158016114
>Endless sprawl is bad game design though.
Tastes vary. I personally like well balanced games that cater to both playstyles. Game design discusiion aside, civ 6 is as ICS a game as they get. Don't play tall, it's not worth it.

>>158015523
why is firaxis still implementing this stupid fucking meme? this is immersion-breaking and not even funny anymore

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>>158009998
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GAMING ON A MAC FORE?

>>158015509
Spoiler its not worth $60 until they patch it

Why does nobody want my trade delegations?

I'm spending money to show that I want to be friends. What the fuck is up your ass

>>158016110
every leader gets their regular agendas, and a random hidden agenda that you find out later when you get spies

>>158016527
Send them on the same turn you meet them and they'll usually accept.

>>158016496

m-maybe getting patches really fast and the chance that pirates might not get them or get them late will make my purchase worth it haha.

It's not happening, is it.

>>158016283
NO ONE HAVE FUN BUT ME
If you don't like what the devs do just mod it out, simpels schmu

>>158016114
Being rewarded for sitting on your ass not doing anything beyond pressing next turn leaving vast swaths of the map untouched even at the game's end is bad design. Tall shitters shouldn't play 4X games to begin with.

>>158016770
Then they need to make city management more intricate. Allow for specific upgrades of districts and resource tiles only available to tall cities.

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>civ6 works fine yesterday
>today cant load my save and starting a new game crashes the game

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This game feels so slow
Been like 150 turns and i've only met 2 civs

Is there a mod that lets me play a CiV 5 game with no other civ in it? Full solo?

Don't ask.

>>158016930
Sounds like a personal problem.

What religious beliefs should i pick

>>158016770
>>158016867
Watching you two argue is a bittersweet expirence. On one hand it's funny, because you think you know the right way, and everyone else can go fuck themselves. On the other hand, it's sad, because you don't seem to realise this.

>>158015313
pls respond

Do sea trade routes still give way way more stuff than land routes?

>>158015313
>multiplayer AI
Huh? It's the same AI as 5. Improvements promised so far do not seem to be there.

Can scouts plunder trade routes?

I cleared the fuck out of a path for a land route and it still got plundered.

>>158016867
Why? Why should "tall" needs to be balanced against "wide" at all? Why should having more cities needs to be balanced against having less cities when the entire drive behind the game comes from competition for the limited resources (food, hammer, science, faith, you name it) all of which is primarily derived from lands?

>egypt start talking shit, calls me weak and mocks my poor millitary
>roll out the dosh, get my economy going
>admires my treasure coffers, tries to declare friendship (money grubber hidden agenda)

Heh, in this game she's women: the AI. I feel like a cucked husband.