/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

The game stopped letting me upgrade apostles?
It tells me I have an upgrade but when im in my territory to upgrade I don't see any upgrade option for it.

What do?

first for turn 3 barbarian horsemen

>Cleopatra talks shit for only having 2 military units
>on turn 33
>on marathon

Remember: The only indication that a barbarian camp has spawned is a sound (war drums and grunting). There's nothing you can click on to see where the camp spawned.

Why is Trajan purple?

Shouldn't Trajan be red, as a general, and a more culturally focused leader be Purple

Do I have to go back to the main menu to get reroll your start?

>>158058640
I'm pretty sure you can launch a satellite into space without discovering electricity.

>>158058948
Roman and Byzantine leaders often wore purple as a symbol of leadership.

>>158058992
Yea.

>>158058948

Way back in the day purple represented power.

HOW TO RAZE CITY LONG AFTER CONQUEST REEEE

>>158059065
>>158059065
Yeah purple is the colour of kings in europe since the romans.

While in china I think a royal colour would be yellow.

>>158058697
do you have mods for civilization 4?

can some nig tell me how to show lux resources at top of screen?

>>158059154
Maybe trade the city away then war and cap it then raze?

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nth for since when the fuck did this happen

>wonders are so stupidly expensive that everyone is still pushing ancient era wonders in industrial era
the game balance just feels kinda fucked fampai

>>158059331
Noice. Good luck with your future war in heaven.

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>no Niter fucking anywhere

Fine, I guess I'll fight without guns then.

>>158058697
W-What happened to those units?

How much better is civ 6 compared to 5? Is it worth playing in comparison to 5 with all expansions?

Why is a fucking donkey cart so powerful?

>>158059331
if they ask who you are, ask them what they want

>>158059429
Basic units attacking a 40 strength city

>>158059436
Don't you want to join us in complaining about barbs?

>>158059436
It's much better than Civ5 was at launch, but worse than Civ5 with all expansions.

>>158059549

I'm shit at civ but I'm curious. Don't really want to shill 60 for a game but if it's really good I might.

>>158059429
They attacked into Far Base One and all died.
Brilliant early BE AI thought it was a good idea to suicide troops that way.

>>158059436
For once it's ok in terms of content on release, but the balancing is all kind of fucked.
Barbs are so brutal the AI can't handle them.

Any mods for civilization iv? i don't like civilization v.

>the smug lady doesn't recommend you to build industrial districts at all
>they are by far the most important
fuk u smug

>>158059549
>Don't you want to join us in complaining about barbs?
God I want to.
But my graphics card was too outdated.

Complaining about barbs ain't gonna be the same a week from now.

>>158059643
>shill
I don't think you know what this word means, anon. Stop getting your vocabulary from /v/.

Victoria and French girl in SFM when?

>>158059712
>hammers not the most important

>>158059690
Fall From Heaven 2 is a must-play pretty much. Or better yet, go for one of the FFH spinoffs like Orbis or Rise From Erebus, since those have the same content and then some.

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>Pantanal
>breathtaking
>it's a bunch of algae filled puddles

>>158059712
The game should really outline how fucking massive industrial districts are.

>>158059886
It looks pretty cool from top down though, like a giant demented oil slick

>>158059436
The features are great and it actually feels like a finished game, but as other anons have said the balancing is fucked and the AI is retarded.
The former will probably be fixed quickly, the latter will probably only get marginally better.

>full of hopes and dreams
>start a new game
>get completely annihilated by barbs early on
>repeat 5 times

I'm this fucking close to turning those sons of bitches off.

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Anyone here that has torrented Civ 6 yet? Is the CODEX release okay? Just wanted to make sure it was clear of malware.

I plan to buy it, but at the very least I intend to give it a test ride before comitting. If I don't like it after one game I'll hold off the purchase until later.

>>158059862
>more content is always good
I bet you think caveman2cosmos isn't a piece of trash.

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>>158059862
Thanks!. i will try those.

>>158059974
Just play Gilgamesh. He doesn't care about barbarian fucking shits.

>>158059902
Someone should tell the AI

>>158059886

It's actually very nice if you go when it's flooded and the algae isn't sitting there and thus it's more blue than green.

>>158059426
>no horses
>no iron
>no niter
>one single barrel of oil
>one hex outside of my city zones
>would literally have to settle a 3 tile city just to get it

It's ridiculous. And i have 7 cities, there's just nothing on my continent.

>>158060057
What's wrong with Caveman2Cosmos? I'm a newbie to the general and I haven't played it, but I have heard nothing but praise for it and people calling it the "best version of Civ"

>>158059643
>Don't really want to shill 60
It's "shell out 60", in case you weren't just being memey and didn't know.

How do I stop the cities from bitching about amenities to the point of revolting?

>>158058891
>build a slinger 20 turns later
>she likes me now

Women.

>>158060057
>implying it is
>muh direction
>muh cohesive design (code for 'what I like')
>muh toaster can't run it
The biggest problem with it is lagging and the AI, even tweaked, not understanding how the units work (they do well enough with buildings).

>>158060186
It's really bloated which he doesn't like.

>>158060157
My starting was also shit like that, thank god for that one city-state that just gives me the strategic resource as long as I discovered it.

>>158059974
i've quit 2 games because the barbs were so ridiculous in them. the enemy civs pose no threat whatsoever. it's like the barbarians are set to deity and the civs are set to prince.

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>>158059886
>Great Barrier Reef
>It's a bunch of Hermaphroditic, transsexual fish living in a giant skeleton of all the animals that came before

>>158060057
It's not just more content though, it's also refinement of the old content. Orbis and RfE pretty much just picked up development when the dude that did FFH quit.

As Germany why would I want to go to war with city states doesn't it just rack up huge warmonger penalties?

>>158060409
Anemones look so comfy

>>158059391
The AI is waiting until you start building one to finish theirs.

>>158060340
>muh toaster can't run it
really that's what you're going for in 2016? Everybody can run that shit.

>>158060186
How does clicking on elements of a very long list for 6000 years sound to you?

>>158060409
F

So lad's what Civs are you enjoying? I've played Norway, Rome and Russia so far. I'm shit with Norway, at the moment I'm doing good with Russia but I am literally getting nothing out of being Russia I could be any other Civ and get more out of my bonuses.

I think I'm doing alright as Rome(Playing with a friend in this game)

Who would you lads recommend?

Game is good so far, just a few minor gripes like the fade out on the leader screens and alt+tab not working properly.

>>158060534
>really that's what you're going for in 2016? Everybody can run that shit.
I can almost guarantee that the majority of people here can't. I'm running a i7-4770k at 5.1 and a 980ti and it lags like all fuck by mid medieval on Huge maps let alone Gigantic 20 civilizations.

You're complaining that it has too much content when its main draw is that it has a lot of content. It's not for you. Okay. That doesn't mean it's shit.

Playable Korea when? ;_;

>>158060581
I'm playing Germany at the moment.

The Hansa is nice, but other than that they feel kinda crappy. The extra policy slot is useless, and by the time U-Boats come around you're probably already winning anyway.

>>158060752
but the extra district for cities is a massive fucking boost to their infastructure

>Ironman mode in Stellaris
>Spend more time autosaving than playing the game

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>Horse barbarians


Also fuck Gilgamesh for ruining my comfy little Jew game as Rome .

>>158060194

I meant shill out but yeah I'm just being memey

>>158060925
ive never been capped on districts so i dont even find that bonus useful

and with germany the industrial district doesn't even take up a slot because its unique

seems pretty meh unless you have no housing/growth in the city and then how can you even fit in 5+ districts to make it worthwihle?

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>>158060959

>>158060581
America going for Cultural Victory

The National Park stuff is a lot more clunky than I was expecting but Rough Riders was fun as shit to run through one civ and some barbs for like 100 culture. Definitely a lot more fun to play than Civ 5 murica.

>>158060959
There's 3 more horsemen in the tiles that you can't see.

You're fucked mate

>>158060713
>you just don't enjoy eating crap :^)
There is nothing in principle that prevents a mod with a lot of content to be good and coherent, but oh surprise they never are.
There is no strategy where you're just ploughing through an extensive list of small inconsequential bonuses.

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>>158060959

Is England any good if you're playing pangaea?

they have comfy music

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>tfw you realized why spain was so fucked in the battle royale

Spain was trying to warn us. We didn't listen about the barbarians.

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>>158059514
What do you want?
First 1.3 game here, testing these traits

>>158061316
Yeah, their bonus still woks since Pangea maps are still broken up into multiple continents.

>>158061316
considering cultural is easiest victory and they have british museum they are good but no bonus to GP like few other civs

>>158061149
So annoying that districts don't tell you their adjacency bonus stuff from the build screen

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Civ 6 or Stellaris?
I hear from you guys that Civ is better but i am huge space sf junkie. What do?
Distant Worlds is a bit over the line of tedious for me.
Halp

>>158061590
PIRATE AND TRY BOTH

>>158061196
Because coherence is a buzzword. It's perfectly coherent, it just isn't cohering to what you want.

>strategy
It certainly exists, there's optimal builds and things you prioritize and things you'll have to skip over.
You're angry because it also attempts to be a simulator at the same time and you hate simulators.

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>>158061183
No fucking shit my man

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christ

>>158061590
Pirate both, play them for a day or two, the buy the one you like the most.

>>158061804
The cards could be done better. It seems like you just cycle them way too quickly and accumulate a massive amount you may never use.

Is it just me or is the science balance all out of whack.

My tech lead is absurd.

>>158061658
>It's perfectly coherent
It's not, you just don't understand what it is.
The game is incoherent because you spent most of it taking decisions where there is one obvious correct answer.
I'm not surprised a c2c baby would go as far as to deny coherence is a concept.

>it also attempts to be a simulator
come the fuck on now, there's nothing more accurate about c2c than about vanilla civ. You don't reach realism with a long list of shit.

>>158061804
Those filters exist for a reason.

>>158061926
what difficulty?

>>158061916
fuck yeah, so many of them or unnecessary filler

>>158061804
>>158061941
>scroll wheel and arrow keys dont work for menus
?????????????

Is there any reason to ever raze cities? Seems like there's no happiness to manage anymore.

If I build a wonder that grants an additional policy slot, does that slot carry over if I switch to a new form of government?

>>158062109
wondering the same. I assume there's an increase in tech cost, but it's not stopping me.

>>158062109
If the city is in a terrible spot

>>158062081
Immortal.

Everyone rushed me early and then faded away.

>>158062224
your districts cost more the more cities you have

>>158062286
the problem is that they're also rushing each other and so they have a massive disadvantage into the mid game because they spend so much on military units

the AI is just terribly bipolar and not very good beyond the early game, science isn't that bad but also considerably longer than civ 5's science victory

>>158062338
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>>158059514
[Spoiler]REEEEEEEEEE[/spoiler]

>>158061937
>The game is incoherent because you spent most of it taking decisions where there is one obvious correct answer
By this idea Civ V isn't coherent on Deity because there's an optimal build order almost all of the time and there are units that are almost worthless compared to others. It also means EU and CK are incoherent because the decisions have a correct answer if you're going to play for efficiency.
I don't really remember it being a thing to begin with in C2C, what decisions do you have where only one is optimal? You mean the build list? That's because you build those 50 hammer things eight at a time by the time you're Ancient Era. What you're looking for is clutter, which I agree is annoying especially when starting new cities.

>come the fuck on now, there's nothing more accurate about c2c than about vanilla civ
But it does act as a simulator. It simulates disease and crime and pollution. It simulates, say, lemons stopping scurvy. It simulates tribes popping out of fucking nowhere (revolutions). Its combat system is far superior to Civ IV's. It simulates hunting and the importance of your start and makes resources incredibly important as was historical. It has tech diffusion and stuff. All of this is shit civilization would never include because the aim of civilization isn't to simulate, it's to play a 4x game kind of sort of grounded in history.
Do you think MEIOU is incoherent too? It sure doesn't match up to EU4's vision well.
I'm tired as fuck I haven't slept in 40 hours

>>158058867

SOMEONE MAKER A /vg/ AUTISM SERVER! I WANT TO SEE YOUR GEO POLITICS!

>>158062187

Nevermind, answered my own question. It seems any additional policy slots you unlock applies to all future forms of government.

so has anyone even made use of great wall of china?

how much are the cult/tourism bonuses and do you have to work the tile or can it go on the 4th tile out late game?

seems a waste to use any unique improvements on workable tiles

SALADIN STOP SENDING APOSTLES, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

>>158062596
c2c plays NOTHING like a historical simulator, fucking stop it

>>158062627
yeah, all the unique improvements except the ziggurat seem incredibly shitty to put on any tile

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>>158059514
>>158062569

Forgot pic and fucked up lol

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>enemy spawns 2 slingers the turn after my galley starts sailing by their coast
That's retarded, but I can deal with losing 50% of my brand new galley's hp to this kind of rng bullshit.

>>158062702
Neither does MEIOU.

>robotics one of very last techs
>gives +1 production on pastures

what the fuck? so random and late why isn't that on some mid tier tech

>>158062629
Saladin and Philip will literally never stop sending apostles and missionaries. Cleopatra and Trajan will use them too, but not as much as those first two.

My current empire is literally the battleground for an endless apostle war between those two.

can i play civ 6 online using a third party service if both me and my friend pirated the game

The barbarian camps that spawn horsemen and horse archers can just fuck off.

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>>158062762
>but when I send units down to clear the camp to pave way for a settler they spawn warriors behind my fucking slingers
WHAT THE FUCK.
I SCOUTED.
I SET UP IN A WAY THAT WOULD LET ME KILL THEIR 4 UNITS WITH MY 2 WITHOUT LOSING ANY.
I ENGAGED FROM ACROSS A RIVER AND BURNED DOWN THEIR WARRIOR AND SLINGER, THEN A SECOND FUCKING WARRIORS SPAWNED BEHIND MY SLINGER AND BEGAN MURDERING IT.

Enough! Fuck barbarians! Having them just appear all over the map at the most inconvenient times is fucking bullshit. Why couldn't they just let them spawn from camps like before?!

>>158062730
Ziggurat still seems shit population gives science so food just seems better, it doesn't even seem worth building over farms for housing+food or mines

Why do whales sound so spooky?

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If one more retard asks which is better Stellaris or Civ 6 I am going to use my roomates cat as an ashtray

so

which civ is OP?

Stellaris or Civ 6 ?

>>158059331
For me it happened because I gave them one of my bird-people pops because they wanted to start a sanctuary, since they thought I was doomed to die off in a hundred or so years.
Joke's on them, those sleeper-agents are going to have multiplied out of control by the time I'm advanced enough to conquer them, meaning I'll have free cannon fodder on the ground.

>>158063243
pirate and try both

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My troops at her borders? I wonder what she means...

>>158063291
but i already bought both
at launch

So, is it better than Civ5?

>>158063243
>Joke's on them, those sleeper-agents are going to have multiplied out of control by the time I'm advanced enough to conquer them, meaning I'll have free cannon fodder on the ground.
Endless legend. Stop asking stupid questions with obvious answers.

>endless flood of barbarians overwhelming my settler and escort of two eagle warriors
fuck this game

>mid tier government gives trade routes

so what happens when you upgrade to last government do the trade routes just stop and cancel instantly?

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>>158063316
OOPS I GUESS SHE MEANT HER TROOPS ARE CRAWLING ALL OVER MY FUCKING BORDERS LIKE USUAL WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS RETARDED BULLSHIT?

>tfw kalinka

>>158063478
>what is brexit

>>158063478
No, you can still have them.

When you're at or over the cap it just stops you from building more.

>massive mountain pass stretching from one side of the continent to the other separating the north and south
>only gap between is a 2-hex spot on the very west end

Gotta say, it has kept me safe in a lot of wars.

>>158063870
I see the good old boredom generator is at work.

>>158063345
civ6 then so you don't miss out on the memes you lucky bastard

t. shit graphics card

Not sure if it applies only to 'civilian' ships, but although a science vessel of mine got into a battle as soon as it entered a system, the ship just opened up the wormhole and just ran out of there using it, instead of having to wait for the 30 day counter for Emergency FTL to be available.

If ships can now 'escape' from battle by just charging up their normal FTL drives, I can see why Hyperspace lost its ability to warp out from anywhere in the system.

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It appears quite impossible to build a narrow and tall Civ this time. The only good way seems to go as wide as possible, then as tall as possible.

Guys what's the upgrade for pikemans? I'm in the industrial era and I can't upgrade them so far.

>>158063963

There's 2 civs in the north with me and one was the Aztecs, so I was kept busy.

do specialists give GP points? they seem shit

tall cities in general seem shit when theres not enough workable tiles with all the districts/wonders

>civ4
Game for GS tier autists
>civ 5
Perfect mix of complexity and fun.
>civ 6
A mobile game

Did i get it right?

Whats supposed to happen when you start Inquisition with an Apostle? My unit just disappears and nothing happens, the influence of the existing religion doesnt seem to decrease at all.

>>158064317
Wrong three times.

Please try again.

>>158064317
Have you bothered playing the games?

>>158064347
It gives you the ability to buy Inquisitors.

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>>158064317
Civ 5 was the dumbed down casual shit.

For now, the only casual part I've noticed in Civ 6 is the graphics. There is more depth than in Civ 5, certainly.

Civ 4 was the masterpiece.

>Cleo keeps calling my army weak
>right as im taking over civ after civ
is this like a fdom thing

>>158064317
t. /gsg/ anon who hasn't played civ since civ2

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>>158064120
says you nerd

>>158063207
what is better Civ 6 or Stellaris?
Say hi to roommate

is there a way to know how district projects work? and their gains?

DUDE LETS GIVE BARBARIANS SPEARMAN, HORSEMEN AND HORSE ARCHERS FROM TURN 1 LMAO

>>158064708
Well are you weak? Sounds like it

>>158064823
>4 cities

Have you even tried beating the game with only one city, nerdlord; something you could do in earlier games

>>158064875
>>158061149

>>158064952
have you?

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>>158065032
>ishtar's face when

>>158064985
I mean the projects you build for yeilds + GP points.. its at the bottom of the build options on the city

democracy has a bonus to them but it doesn't say how much you even gain in the first place

>civ settles near me
>tell them not to do that
>they agree
>they settle near me again
>get a message about how they broke their promise
>don't get a casus belli out of this
Oh come the fuck on, breaking an agreement isn't reason enough? What does it take to get a fucking casus belli in this game?

I might be missing something, but the AI are behaving super aggressively towards me.

In every game they declare a surprise war within the first 40-50 turns, and start moving assloads of basic warriors towards me.
At this point I only have around 2-3 warriors.
And it doesn't matter how friendly I get with these civs, they always war me within this timeframe and if I beat them back either they war me again some 30 turns later or another neighbour wars me and shuffles ungodly amounts of troops towards me.
In my first game it was France and Spain, in my current game it's Congo

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what can i do with stones and milk?

>>158065214
>be suzerain of city state
>they attack it
>I can't defend them until like halfway through the game

>>158065237
Drink.

Fuck me this new movement system is a chore.

>>158065096
Yes, but I got bored before finishing because I failed to keep up with proper tech rate. Could be my noobiness, but building tall is definitely harder this time around.

>>158065237
quarry pantheon

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>Have negative amenities in the capitol
>Can't be bothered to build an entertainment district because I can't be distracted from my spess autism
>My people riot
>This makes barbarian mechanized infantry materialize all around my city

I JUST WANT TO BUILD ROCKETS

Does the eagle warrior ability not work on barbarians or am I just getting insanely unlucky? I've killed about 7 barbs with both of mine and no workers.

>>158065467
Calm down Wernher.

Have you guys figured out how to destroy districts?

>>158065591
You don't

So is Freddy's bonus to districts worth a damn? It seems like the district limit isn't very restrictive anyway.

God damn it, Firaxis. Why can't I access the civopedia from the start menu?

So the entire midgame for Civ 6 is barbarian wack-a-mole?

I can't even do anything other than pump out military units, trade routes are mostly worthless because I can't protect them, i don't actually have the ability to invest in any upgrades for half my cities because I've got to repair the damage they deal, can't use workers either because barbarians constantly on me, and like fuck do I have any chance to interact with other civs.

How are people dealing with this shit?
All I can think of is churn out a fuck load of scouts and make sure the continent im on has zero fog or something.

>>158065227
Oh, and it might not only be me that is on the recieving end of this. In my last game Japan ruled half of a continent including 2 conquered capitals and a shitload of city states at the beginning of the medieval era.
Balancing issues?

Is there no downside to having lots of cities anymore?

>>158065703
It's useless for like half the game, but after that it's a very nice bonus.

Just finished my first game of Civ VI.

Why were 4 out of 6 Great Generals that I got women?

>>158065591
What happens if you raze a city with a district? Will it disappear then?

>>158065765
disable the barbarians until they get patched

>>158065765
>repair the damage
>get district pillaged
>15 turns to repair the damage
Literally cancer

>>158065439

Honestly it doesn't seem that strong. I can be a faith king but i have to devote building the shitdistricts to acquire gp points.

>>158065817
Supposedly it makes building districts harder

Is stellaris worth $30 after this patch now?

>>158065765
What? I had no problem with Barbs. Usually City-States and other AI players will wipe them out before they cause me any trouble.

>>158065765
Use horse units. They can cover a lot of ground to protect long trade routes and are OP against everything except anti cav.

>>158065635
That's just bullshit. How am I supposed to specialized conquered cities to my liking?

>>158065765
Stationing units at the edge of my territory to scare away scouts is what I've been doing.

The main issue is when they get triggered by someone else and the rape train passes near your city on the way to somewhere else.

Why are resources so fucking limited? do you really get 1 iron or 1 fucking coal per spot? and there are not even many at all. I should have increased it because this is awful. I have to spam cities just to get 1 resource.

>>158065825
We progressive as sheit now, dawg.

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What Civ6 setting makes my GPU scream?
I get 60 (capped) FPS but I'm tired of the noise.

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who /beat deity/ here?

Also if all of your spots are taken on a island how do you make more houses? I have to minmax food spots or production with these buildings

>>158066238
I have one Horse, no Iron, no Niter, and no Oil at all. I'm literally still tooling around with crossbows in the motherfucking atomic age.

This shit is bananas.

>>158066467
>invents gunpowder
>doesn't have any ingredients nearby

>>158065817
None at all. Go as wide as your luxury resources allow.

>>158066421
>going tall
Almost every district has buildings that give housing. Look into housing policies too.

>>158066238
It's like civ 4 in that you only need access to the resource to build the unit. If you don't have an encampment you need access to two copies of the resource instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnu2lMunSPY

>>158065214
Reasearch the casus belli techs.

It seems I can't buy missionaries or apostles. I already have a temple but the options don't appear in the purchase item with faith menu.

who else 'randomly' got Gandhi who 'randomly' got the 'hidden' agenda of Nuke Happy

nigga had to go

are continents any good or is pangaea still the way to go?

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>>158066467
>I'm literally still tooling around with crossbows in the motherfucking atomic age.

Started like 20 games and i'm getting a lot better at dealing with early game barbs

I always want to focus on buildings but putting your production into units both gives you the ability to knock out a few barb camps but also ram your way into conquering a city state or nice enemy capital early on

I conquered greece before I had used more than one builder and hadn't built any buildings yet

>>158066790
Less land means fewer barbarians as civs expand.

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>>158066773
There's nothing random about that. Nuke-happy Gandhi is the biggest, oldest Civ meme there is, and the devs are in on it.

>>158066862
what game is that

>play gilgamesh
>4 barb camps around me
>get my war carts ready
>start slamming the first one
>random city state barbarian in the fog captures it
>second one
>another city state is already capturing it
>third one has despawned when I got there
>start slamming the fourth one
>a city state unit in the fog comes and captures it

>cant tell/ask the AI not to settle near you anymore
>russia squats down and takes a massive shit in the middle of my civ

why are there like no diplomacy abilities yet again, why cant I tell russia to fuck off and not settle near me

are they just obtusely hidden somewhere? am I a retard?

>>158066790
The AI is even more retarded than usual when it comes to naval combat, so if you want anything resembling a challenge, Pangaea is best. Islands is a joke, the AI will suicide dozens of embarked knights into a single caravel without ever considering building their own ships.

>>158067030
Endless Legend.

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>>158067030
Endless Legend, Vaulters faction.

Is there a way to see city production progress when spy in their city like in civ 5?

>>158067185
>cant tell/ask the AI not to settle near you anymore
The funny thing is that you CAN tell them that, but only AFTER they already settled near you.

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Anyone know how to get rid of war weariness? It came off all but 1 of my cities afte I finisehd off Gilgamesh. The -6 penalty is irritating.

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>>158067362
Well that doesn't help me now, does it?

>>158066862
What is the point of having a small, bullet sized magazine if it shoots arrows?

>>158067416
It goes away over time when you're at peace.

>>158067468
That's why it's funny.

>>158065765
Aggressively use your military to seek out barb camps and destroy them. Do not leave your units idle EVER if there's a barb camp

I purge one every 6 turns or so in my game and it keeps the barbs down a very significant amount, even if the scout gets back i'm on the way with 7 troops to take care of the 3-4 spawned barbs

>>158067476
they don't have the resources or technology for gunpowder, maybe

Is Civ 6 meant to be played on epic or marathon? These production times for space race projects and such give me aids.

>>158067185
There doesnt seem to be any real diplomacy now. Its ,mostly simple trading offers ala your goods vs my money

>>158067476
They don't? That dude in the front just has a bit of his armor that looks like it.

holy shit the space race projects take waaaaaay too fucking long

>>158067476
>>158067609
IIRC they're kind of a backwards faction that descended from high-tech space people, so they probably just tried to reporpose the guns without actually knowing how guns work, so they ended up with awkward cargo-cult crossbows.

>>158067652
i've been trying it play on epic and production times feel way slower than civ 5, while science still feels too quick

Gedemon made a mod to adjust tech times over on civfanatics, i was thinking of trying that out. you could take a look at that.

in my first game i completely finished the tech tree and researched future tech 5 times before i completed the space ships

production times are completely fucked, OR science is way too fast (the euruka moments are too powerful and the tech tree is way too bare)

>be peaceful brown man of le happy atomic enrichment
>make city next to some mountains
>scout around a bit
>I actually made my capital into a chokepoint for a valley surrounded by mountains
>set up several other cities inside the valley and get comfy
>scout outside my atomic pocket
>every other civ is getting overrun with barbarians
>all improvements pillaged
>all angry as fuck
>retreat back to the nuke valley and turtle up for the forseeable future

If you're having barb problems I feel bad for you son. Got 99 stepwells improved with a barb near none.

comfy/10

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They made Cleopatra too much of a cunt.

>>158066589
like what, its saying I DO need more resources
>>158066467
really what the fuck is going on.
can anyone explain how this was a good idea? I was really liking this game and now its fuck retarded. How do you do fucking anything in this game if the resources are fucking nowhere on the map and 1 spot is fucking 1 resource?

>>158067969

sounds comfy, pic?

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Isn't it good that Barbars are an actual threat now?

Or is this beyond threat and onto bullshit levels?

>>158068173
you can make infinite units with 1 resource, somebody already explained it

>>158068146
she's so tsundere

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So, just to clarify, there is LITERALLY no downside to just shitting out cities if you have the means to defend them, right? I'm just churning out this bullshit amount of manifest destiny and have yet to see any negative affects aside from other civs getting pissy. But other civs seem to get pissy no matter what I do.

>>158067969
>comfy/10
more like boring/10, enjoy mindlessly pressing next turn for the next 6 hours.

Also post pix.

Also why do no friendships work at all? I have one buddy and fucking konga doesn't give a shit about anyone. everyone else hates me.

Something is wrong with how my game renders hair on the leaders, and I don't know why.

>>158068173
You can make infinite units with 1 resource. You just need access to it.
If you don't have an encampment in the city you need access to 2 resources to build the unit instead.

>>158068193
I preferred it when you could choose between regular barbarians and raging barbarians, instead of just making the regular ones spawn lots of crap all the time.

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>>158066007
>tfw no horses

>>158068238
So there is no point other than trading to have more than one spot? I have 2 iron, but it was saying I needed 2 way back for the longest time and It seems 1 iron takes up a unit. I have one nitar but never made any gun units yet. gonna have to see how this fucking works then.

>>158068409
...fuck good dam it wish that was more clear. its a whole new game then now I was spamming cites just to get these fucking spots which were nowhere on the map. even if thats how it works the resources are way too rare. theres like at least 2 -3 nitar spots, I got lucky.

So I'm playing civ 6, and I'm thinking I'll go for a religious victory, and found Catholicism. About 5 turns later, The nords show up with 2 apostles for their religion, Protestantism, and convert my founding city. Whatever, I'll just wait for my next great prophet. Except you only get one in this game. "Well that's fucked," I think, "alright, so maybe I can still make catholic apostles and missionaries, surely the game wouldn't lock me out of a religious victory immediately right?" Except I make the fucking missionaries and apostles, and they're for fucking Protestantism. So help me out here /vg/, how do I salvage Catholicism, if I literally can't spread it any more. This seems broken as fuck, and a free win for the nords, who just keep founding cities farther and farther away from me, so I can never destroy their civilization with military.

>>158068725
You're actually fucked.

>>158068725
If you have zero cities with your own religion, you're fucked.

Just go for a different victory instead.

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Which should I pick? I'm going to generate some new alien races, but which one of these existing ones looks best?

was there a option to make more resources on the map? I didnt check yet.

Also do the other resources work this way or the old way? It seems having more still lets me trade more. I also don't see how many certain resources I have, Like crabs or bananas.

>>158068771
HOW THE HELL WAS THIS GAME DESIGNED WITH THIS GLARING FLAW. This isn't even hard, I'm just playing on King to get a feel for the game, and Harad just keeps getting a boost to his religious victory with Brazil next door feeding him cities every 10 turns, what the fuck

>>158068725
The same thing happened in Civ 5; you made prophets and missionaries whatever the religion of the originating city is, even if its a holy city for something else.

>all these plebs buttblasted over barb aggression

It's called ICS you triple nigger retarders. Since there's no penalty for city spamming, and since condensed empires can prevent barb spawns, you have no excuse to not go ICS.

who /deusex/ here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxUaMtMgf60

>>158068978
Yea, but you could still count on the great prophet to re-convert your main city. You only get one in this game so you're locked out if you lose all your cities.

>>158068978

Wrong. If you get a great prophet at a converted holy city, it will still spread the faith of that city's original religion.

>>158068725
this happened to me too but with someone else, what the fuck that was way too early in the game.

I know its day one but I hope they balance things out better and yeah it does seem way too fucking slow. Its nice and all but I'm doing shit, I cant even go to war on turn 300. I had no time to build them because builders take up all the time. Having to not build roads is cool and all but what the fuck were they thinking with this number of turns bullshit with builders.

>>158068956
>HOW THE HELL WAS THIS GAME DESIGNED WITH THIS GLARING FLAW
It's terrible, how could they design a way for you to not win

>>158069039
Tom cruise in...
THE LAST CIV SAMURAI DLC PACK

Man, the turn transition gets too damn slow after 300 turns.

Am I the only one who really likes playing in strategic view this time around? Its like a really neat board game.

>>158069281
Come on, this isn't unbalanced at all? I have the best science and culture in the game and I'm still way behind Harad because he keeps getting cities from Brazil. This feels like a broken ass loophole.

>>158069039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzwvItK3JPI
He's got the wrong theme.
One job, they had one job.

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is it just me being old or do Civ and Stellaris look like babby shit? Why am I only drawn to ES2?

>>158069397
Probably because normal is a fucking mess

>>158069458
Not really. It makes sense that you can't convert to religions that don't exist anymore hurr hurr wiccan gods

>>158069458
>I have the best science and culture in the game
Then go for a science or culture victory instead of a religious victory.

How is this hard?

>>158069281
>>158069458
its obviously a bug. in civ 5 they couldn't fully convert holy cities, so they shouldnt be able to in civ 6 either.

>>158069495
how is ES2 anon?
is it worth a try?

>>158069495
No it's just you, civ is still fun and I try to play paradox games.

The graphics this time around don't help though.
I think they look good in a style wise way but I dont like all the womens faces. Way too but man jaw. the civ 5 guy at least understood that.

>>158069539
That's the thing, there's still one follower of Catholicism in my main city, I can see it, I just can't do anything about it. It's frustrating as hell.
>>158069615
I am, Harad is just buttblasting me with religion no matter how well I do in either.

The AI can be scary. England has 30 units sitting around and in my border. Thank god she likes me and keeps asking for trades and open borders. I'm ready for when the crazy bitch attacks though.

>>158069681
I'm actually window shopping in this thread, I've played everything else and only SE2 is catching my eye. About to pull the trigger on steam but Early Access and 3rd party EULA is putting me off. Complexity is what I like and cartoon waterpaint like Civ/Stell isn't really appealing. I actually use my imagination and visualize my videogames to the point where it becomes a movie.

Fuck this game is pretty underwhelming. I feel bored as fuck.

Screw it, i'll keep it in my library, hopefully the pacing and general everything else gets ironed out eventually.

Guess it was to much to hope for a shiny new CiV with interested and refined mechanics.

>>158069841
>30 units
Literally worthless just get two pikement and 4 crossbows

so with the unstacking thing as long as I'm within 3 tiles of a coast it's fine right?

>>158069039
I like how they needed to add that flute, gotta have that flute. Wish I knew what it was called.

>>158069967
what about Endless Legend?

>>158069681
Not that guy.

Right now it's looking really good, like a straight upgrade to ES1 with some ideas from EL added in. Combat is still a bit disappointing, but at least it's slightly better than it was in ES1.

However, at this point I wouldn't advise buying it unless you really want to get in at ground floor and support the devs, because it's still very unfinished.

>>158070086
I fucking loved that game

>>158068146
Maybe if you're a pussy with a weak army

>>158070085
Shakuhachi.

Anyone else view stuck at trader mode after selecting the trader? I can't get rid of the route arrow shits.

>>158069992
It is refined but the pacing needs to be fixed. I'm still playing it like crack but holy balls it takes a while. and civ already takes a while. The government polices actually slow shit down it seems along with the new city shit because theres a lot of shit going on now. Which is not a bad thing its cool and more in depth but it needs tweaking.

>>158070184
aww damn i just looked at the races and no humans.

>>158070406
They'll add more races later in development. There will be a human race, but they haven't given any details yet. Rumour has it that the human race will be the Vaulters/Mezari from Endless Legend, but I don't know if there's any truth to that.

>>158070229
>unfriendly to everyone, even Gilgamesh
Nah, she's a cunt.

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When?

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>>158070732

>>158070732
Gotta say for all the other problems I fucking love the cover art
Now if only the actual game looked like this

>>158063749
presumably then the first route to finish its mission would not be able to be sent back out, right?

Something is not right about civ 6 and its napoleon.
Its fucking weird not having him.

well civ vi sucks. Back to stellaris

>>158070943
Hello Wiz

I noticed japan didn't get the type zero, why.

>>158070694
>she was bitching about my army half of the game
>was with arabia between us on my continent
>arabia bitching about my army on the border when they build new villages in every crack and i had all on my territory
>after a few times ignoring it he attacks
>cant crack my defense, never even attacked him back
>he cant handle it and i demand one of the city next to mine
>noproblem.jpg
>suddenly she stops being a cunt
huh

How to work specific tiles in Civ6? I see where you can 'emphasize' certain resources and I see the city details but nothing like a city screen where you can view/select the worked tiles manually

>>158070829

They saved all the awesome leaders for dlc to shove in more women and literal whos.

>>158070565
if it had political intrigue mechanics it would actually be GOTY

So do cliffs prevent your cities from getting melee'd by ships or do they just prevent units from embarking/disembarking from them?

>>158071113
Pretty sure they block melee ships.

Now that the dust has settled, is Stellaris bad/too fucking easy? I feel like playing some 4x RTS spess games but I have yet to decide on one.

>>158071040
there's a 'manage citizens' button somewhere and you can change which tiles they work.

Wanted to try out Civ6, so I pirated the codex and reloaded versions. Both take me to Steam page upon launching, is this a cruel joke?

>>158062109
I don't get why it wasn't done the same way as Civ IV, which was it costing upkeep (and costing more the further away from your capital it was).

>>158071274
yes

What do luxury resources do now that happiness is gone?

>>158071429
>be me
>download codex version
>install
>playing for days
I honestly don't know how you can fuck it up

>>158071467
Amenities

>>158071353
thanks, no idea how I didn't see that

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had to do it i just cant pass up the chance

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wasn't there a non-custom egyptian religion that wasn't coptic?

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>Forward settle Trajan and buy a bunch of good tiles right next to Rome
>He loves it and compliments my thicc empire
>Next turn asks to be friends
I love this guy

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I... what?
Why am I declaring war to myself?
Why am I talking as if I were Kongo?
WHAT?

>>158071467
They still do happiness (amenities) but it's back to being per city. 1 lux = +1 amenities in 4 cities

>>158071467
Localized happiness. Although I'm not sure how it works. Do luxuries in one city affect happiness in another?

>>158071756
uh, you wuz?

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Oh god, the roads are even worse in this game than they were in Civ V

>>158071612
>Roman paganism not in
>Confucianism still a fucking religion
>Christianity is like twenty different religions but Shia and Sunni aren't

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Why won't this slut accept my delegate into her?
I have like 7 archers and it's turn 50 or something.

>knights upgrade straight to fucking tanks


defend this.

>>158071904
You can't force women to accept your delegate by force. You've got to take it slow, make her feel comfortable.

>>158071775
each luxury affect 4 cities by giving them +1 amenity

easiest I can describe it is

2x Diamond = 8 cities with + 1
1 Diamond and 1 Mercury = 4 cities with +2 OR 8 cities with +1

luxuries are automatically distributed between your cities that needs it the most

Do the number of cities you have still affect your research speed? Can't find any mention of it

>>158071946
It's because technology is so fast and the eras are really empty

>>158072062
no, there's no penalty for owning more cities, it's just that the settler cost goes up each time you build a new one

>>158072062
No. There is also no % science modifiers or per population modifiers. You also can't build tall because housing fucks you over. If you try to OCC you get to renaissance era and have 30 turn techs.

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Anyone getting this error when trying to run civ 6?

It's the only steam game that does this, no idea why. I've run diskcheck, everything is fine. I've redownloaded it, verified file integrity, moved the install folder, moved my entire steam directory, and completely reinstalled steam, but the error persists. I don't know what to try next.

I just want to play some civ....

>>158071606
awaiting your opinion

>>158071756

Happened to me too. I guess it's a glitch that occurs when two civs declare a joint war against you and you haven't met one of them.

>>158072193
try playing as Kongo man, their unique building provide a shitton of housing if you get a nice forest map

>>158071443
I dont know why I had some hope. Thanks for the reply.

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Kek

What's the verdict on Civ6? Good? Bad? OK?

>>158071612
>Roman paganism not in
>Confucianism still a fucking religion
>Christianity is like twenty different religions but Shia and Sunni aren't

>>158072447
Is she tiny

>>158072195
Disabled antivirus, ran it as admin?

>>158072528
It's better than 5, but typical Civ-at-release: Buggy and the balance is garbage.

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>fucktons of empty land between every city

Why

>tfw no mods to make civ vi actually playable

>>158072574
I'm a disgusting Germanboo, does Germany suck as bad as it looks in the wiki?
The u-boat and shit all look fucking boring

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Anyway to make Civ 6 proper borderless windowed? As in it goes over the taskbar as well.

Way it works now is it doesn't go over the taskbar and a bit of the bottom gets cut off. Hiding the taskbar fixes it but that's annoying to have to do that every time to play Civ. I might just play the game in a windowed mode if there's no solving this.

>>158072682
Extra district is pretty useful.

>Cleopatra declares war on me
>continuously ask for peace every turn since she started losing

Women.

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>First game, prince (i know, pleb, but for first game)
>I like roads. Rome looks OP, lets try
>2 horses near start
>ignore religion, it seems to be useless, spam cavalry
>Transsexual looking bitch from Grecce bitch about me being peacafull
>rape her capital
>fight with barb spam, too many open space
>In other side, russia, expanding with huge holes spawning barb camps
>rape everything with knights, become solo on continent
>attack all other civs on second continent with infantry, tanks, choppars
>they all have crossbows and other shit
>take city after city with no resistance
>Glorious Roman domination victory

Game is too easy. AI can't expand properly, they build settlers but dont place them. a lot of free space is spawning barbarian camps, fucking them even more.

Solution - add more AI players. Less free space = less stupid barb camps. I will try next game with higher diffucity with a lot more AI players on small map

>>158072761
I just put it on bordered windowless and it worked fine

>>158072761
don't know what to tell you, my taskbar gets covered in borderless windowed

>>158072682
Hansa is boring but useful. Extra policy is useless, U-boat comes too late to matter, extra district is useless early on but good after midgame.

Overall not a top nation, but it doesn't suck either.

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>>158071986
You can't?

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>>158072682

They get an unique version of the generally strongest district (Hammers) so by that logic they should be pretty strong tbqh

Strongest Civ right now? I'm feeling Japan pretty strongly with the 50% faster faith, culture and encampment districts.

>>158072849
>Game is too easy. AI can't expand properly, they build settlers but dont place them. a lot of free space is spawning barbarian camps, fucking them even more.

Anon, prince is the garbage difficulty.