/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

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>that OP pic

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>eyes on the inside

>>157990223
The guy who made that webm should look for Kenneth's PSN and invite him here, he's just like us.

>>157990268
What did Miyazaki mean by this?

>This only happens with Maria and no other NPCs
Such a wasted opportunity for spooks

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*touch fluffy tail*

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>>157990268

>>157990428
I meant The Doll fuck

>>157990423
One day he'll show up here, and I'll convince him to co-op with and/or duel me, and then I'll be able to die happy.

Nauseous, but happy.

>>157990738
I've been fortunate enough to not only encounter him, but to also speak with him, and even be complimented by him.

What a dreamboat.

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EARLY THREAD R E M I N D E R

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>>157990268

>>157991358
>he fell for the vit meme

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>>157991238

>kenneth is op image

We're in for a wild ride

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Shadows of Yharnam is the worst boss.
>Not fun
>Lmao gank squaad
>dull move set
>We wuz snakez n shit
>Barely any relevance to the lore or story
>From goes and reuses the fuck out of those models in NoM
>Bland music
>Arena looks like shit
>One strategy: ring around the tomb stone n parry
>Dumb "kill one and they kill you" mechanic
>This could have been a fight vs a giant snake monster but instead we get katana wielding edge lords

I would like to see one of you faggots defend that shitty excuse for a boss fight

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>>157991468
WE BELIEVE

>>157991457
99vit is no meme friender

>>157991596
You can do a 3v3 fight. It's fine.

>>157991739
"Rifle Spear is bad" is a meme

>>157991596
>most uninteresting theme in the game
>it gets reused for a gorillion chalice bosses
There's like two notes that remind me of Vampire Killer then it goes back to being bland and shitty, but every time they play I get yanked from the fight and forced to focus on the music.

>>157991940
Yeah that Rifle Spear moveset really saved his ass there.

Don't worry I love the rifle spear too.

>>157991940
It is bad. Parry spamming against idiots, not so much.

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>>157991940
It has its moments.

>>157992623
Gregor doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed.

>>157992623
>Gregor using a weapon other than the wheel

That fight was clearly staged.

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>>157992801
Rude

>>157992801
>Somebody once

>>157993092
sorry he didn't like, waltz into that R2 homie

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>>157993092
>When you only have a sliver of health left and your opponent has a Rosmarinus/flamesprayer
I won't lie, sometimes I just book it in the other direction while crying.

>>157993192
NO STOP WHAT ARE YOU DOING

>>157993225
You'd be surprised how often people do just that.

It's usually not the R2 that does it, but the followup.

>>157993361
I believe it to be quite honest fampie

>>157993286
You'd think that would help, but I'm an arc build, and Blacksky Eye is a hell of a chaser.

There's little that's more satisfying than watching a host back off or run away to heal and getting knocked right in the head for that last bit of health.

>>157994171
I don't heal at least, I just run around Micolash style

>>157994374
But do you awoo?

>>157994412
I'm more of a reeee kinda spinster

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>>157994661
My nigga

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>>157994852
I prefer vanilla claws tbqh famygdala

>>157995059
It makes me so sad how shitty Beast's Embrace is. PvPing with it is a blast until you run into any of the variety of fast weapons, and the complete lack of any kind of dash attack is inexcusable.

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>>157995335
Ain't it the truth, looks cool as fuck but god damn that shit is borderline unusable against half decent players, and the jump attack is basically a suicide button.

>>157995502
Jump attack is only a suicide button if you either try to use it while locked or don't pivot it away when you see them trying to setup a backstab or punish. So long as you have stamina leftover you can dodge out of it fast enough to avoid attacks. It isn't exactly a good move, but it's flashy as fuck and does huge damage.

About the only good thing it has going for it in PvP is the ridiculous tracking on the tricked R1 chain. That combined with the swing arcs make it harder to dodge out of than you'd think, provided you can get the first hit.

>>157995890
I just know that 90% of the time when I've gone up against a beast embrace user, I BTFO with my vanilla claws, the few rare times I lost were to folk who didn't try to use the jump the whole fight.

anybody got a low level character? I'm BL 40, running through forbidden woods and Im feeling kind of lonely. I'm up for coop if you guys feel like it

>>157997191
Sure, pass?

>>157997232
bbg

ringing at forbidden woods lamp

>>157997280
I could come along too if you want

>>157997308
you're welcome to join as well

oh my lordy I am embarassed about that

thanks for joining, I think im going to go to bed a bit early

sorry about that I didnt know about that stunlock

>>157998286
We could try again anon

>>157991463
Nice

>>157999508
Stop.

is anyone still awake?

>>158000627
no

>>158000627
Maybe, why?

>>158001046
w-wanna co-op in the DLC area?

>>158001069
Sure. bl and pass? and where?

>>158001165
Warping to Research Hall lantern, I'll ring there with password "ww"

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>>158000627
Sure

>>158001421
Alright, ringing.

Shouldn't have aggroed them, sorry about that. ;_;

is there any reason to NOT kill these writhing meatheads in the research hall?

Welp, Finally beat the game for the first time a few minutes ago. That fight against Gehrman was rad. Time for a new character

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Just realized you can see Byrgenwerth from the windmill in the Woods.

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Stake Driver is

overhyped.

>>158002835
>>158002835
no

how can I make the blunderbuss do some damage if I have no BLT? Who drops good flat gems?

>try to invade forest
>everyone is a twink
>everyone who isn't has one summoned

Does nobody have area-appropriate weapons?

what the fuck are those things weak to!?

>randoms using Online ID instead of character Name

why would anyone do this

1} Gehrman
2} Ludwig
3) Alonne
4) Gwyn
5) Astraea
6) Champion Gundyr
7) Sinh
8) Artorias
9) Soul of Cinder
10) Vicar Amelia

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>mfw I died like an idiot to the bubbly head trap.

Underrated in fun:
Saif
Reiterpallasch

Overrated in fun:
Rakuyo
Beast Claws

>>158004202
>no Orphan
>Astraea isn't a real fight
>shit from cucksouls2/3

nice bait

>>158004490
>cucksouls2/3
You aren't worth my time

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>>158004561
>he's butthurt that we don't acknowledge his shitty cash-grab sequels

Dang m8, why'd ya have to poor acid on me?

Also that was over 200k souls I just lost there.

Give me 5 minutes to peruse the loot I've gathered

>>158004762
I actually don't know which shelves are traps and which aren't. Sorry about that.

>>158004871
For ages I though you just walk by the shelves, hear bottles breaking, and die horribly, but there are actually buttons on the floor if you look closely.

>>158004871
Look at the floor, there's a huge and extremely visible button.

I'm back at the research hall and ringing

password is "ww" if anyone else wants to join as well, gonna make my way to the boss

>>158004951
Are you serious? Damn, I feel so stupid, but thanks for the info.

>>158004951
I'll come join

>>158004951
>>158004995
ringing at fog

So where do I use the balcony key?

>>158005230
On the main floor you'll see a locked door, just across from the elevator with the bonfire.

Vileblood scum.

you guys on suicide watch now that DS3's DLC has the best content in the series?

>>158005412
yes

>>158005271
b-bonfire..?

>>158005463
Lantern, sorry

>>158005412
do you ACTUALLY get to see the Painted World in the new DLC?

Is Lifehunt Scythe a weapon you can get from it?

>>158005539
No, and no.

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>>158005412
Is funny because it's literally the worst!

>>158005539
The Painted World of Ariandel is the same one from DS1 but restored by some guy with no backstory, and no you don't, you get a different scythe weapon

>>158005585
>inb4 some dude literally just painted over the one from Anor Londo and tried to sell it at full price

>>158005638
Too late.
That's exactly what Dark Souls III is.

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Man I have lost a TREMENDOUS amount of blood echoes tonight

>>158005412
>2 bosses, one being a hybrid of the bad decisions from 2cats and graverobbers in DS2, the other having 3 phases but all are made of glass and the first two can be parried/backstabbed/stunlocked to death
>An area where one entire class of enemies has no lore and the other which should be way more important has a generic design
>2 good NPCs and a really short village area with good atmosphere and one really good enemy that shows up 2 more times after
>best content in DS3, let alone best content in the series

>>158005769
That's a lot of info; did it release or something? Or did they just do the "tell everyone everything about it before it's out but they'll still buy it anyway" thing they always do?

>>158005847
Xbone got the DLC 6 hours ago, same fuckup that happened when the game first launched

>>158005879
No fuckup will top them releasing the debug exe for DaS1 instead of the Steam multiplayer update.

>>158005769
don't forget the greatest offense
>they made a flail
>they let you make it
>it's actually a whip

>using the mark stops beckoning bell

well what's the damn point then?

>>158005847
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/20/dark-souls-3-ashes-of-ariandel-review
>The Painted World of Ariandel presents a land that’s both enticing and dangerous, and there’s plenty of challenges to face even if you won’t have to face them too many times. However, unless you really love dueling in PvP arenas and can find sustained interest there, this adventure may serve as more of an appetizer than a full course meal.

https://www.destructoid.com/review-dark-souls-iii-ashes-of-ariandel-394199.phtml
>You don't really need Ashes of Ariandel unless you've squeezed every ounce out of Dark Souls III already or thrive on PVP

>>158006238
what?

>>158006201
You mean they FINALLY put a flail into one of these games and they made it a fucking whip type?

>>158006315
It's a Chime that has a self-harm buff

>>158006263
So everything as expected, basically.

maybe I should go watch people losing their shit in /dsg/

>>158006315
that's exactly what they did. It's a str/fai weapon as well, because it's a catalyst for the worst class of magic in the game on top of that

>>158006378
>maybe I should go watch people losing their shit in /dsg/
They've already gone through at least four generals.

>157916412 is where it started.

>>158006378
/dsg/ is currently caught between defending it and the twitch streamer currently struggling with the last boss
To keep this /bbg/ related, there was a lot of low quality arguing about how the last boss was better than Gehrman/Orphan/etc and the hardest in the series

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>give Alfred Cainhurst Summons
>travel to Vileblood chamber
>mfw
Holy fucking shit Alfred is a madman. I almost feel like I made the wrong decision

All this talk about how terrible the DS3 DLC is makes me really appreciate how fucking great the bloodborne DLC is

Are people cooping BB right now?

I want to co-op.

>>158006441
Oops

>>157916412

since we're talking about this
Londor bitch gets a Londor mode, looks exactly the same as she did before but just has a second scythe and shoots black fire in addition to the same aoes she had before
Seeing who that boss is, that was a bigger letdown than not getting a Cainhurst DLC

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>>158006473
You certainly did not.

>>158006390
pic related. As if I needed more reasons to never want to touch DS3 again.

>>158006550
>not getting a Cainhurst DLC
>letdown

>laughing tom cruise micolash.jpg

>>158006665
But we could have had like 3 different edgy katanas anon!

Maybe a minigame where we jerk dudes off to get more cummies for our cuckold queen.

w-why are the living failures one shotting me...

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>>158006802
Yeah, those sound like things a Vileblood would like...

>>158006864
because you haven't truly played Bloodborne until you've struggled with Living Failures

>>158006864
How much vit do you have?

>>158006913
Barely a tick above base vitality.

>>158006904
RINGING.

password is "ww"

pls send help

>>158007072
>twinks: the post

>>158007072
>Barely a tick above base vitality.
Fix that.

>>158007072
ringing at fog

don't get hit

>>158006485
I'm just really angry that all the way through from the initial release into the first dlc DS3 has been nothing but worse than BB on every count other than multiplayer
if BB were given the arena DS3 just got there would never be a reason to play whatever rushed shit they put out ever again

Why is the scourge beast in the first floor sickroom damaged?

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>>158007096
>>158007135
Well I would've had 200k blood echoes to level up if someone hadn't poured acid all over my face while I was running to retrieve them

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>>158007254
I s-said I was sorry...

>>158007254
>>158007306
>two obnoxious animeposters in the same thread

It's time, /bbg/. We've had a good run.

>lost connection to bloodborne server

oh come ON

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THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING MADDENING

>>158007976
the BB servers or the DS3 DLC

>>158008020
The unforgivable amount of times I had to fight the living failures

>>158008260
>like 5-10 attempts
>unforgivable

Try farming Korean BLT gems.

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>>158005769
>watching the optional boss right now
>mfw this post isn't an exaggeration at all

>>158008294
...there are two bosses and one is optional...?

>>158008371
you only have to do the 3 phase one to finish the dlc, the other one has nothing to do with the story and is just there to give you arena access on death

>>158008371
Y-yeah but one boss has three people and the other boss has two, so it's really like getting five boss battles with two optional!

Okay so first form Maria is pathetically easy to parry-lock, but what the hell do I do with her second form?

>>158009057
Same thing.

>>158009057
play the Dark Souls 3 DLC and marvel at how much worse she could have actually been, then beat her with your newfound appreciation for the fight

>>158009129
you having fun there kiddo?

>>158009268
tbqh it's not surprising that people are this pissed off about the DLC, this was a western developer's DLC more than it was a From Soft DLC

God Amy Arm's split damage makes it such garbage but the moveset and aesthetics are cool so I really want to make it work.

besides 27.2% phys up
what are some good gems for the beast cutter?

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>tfw /dsg/ is so butthurt right now they're trying to say DS2 was good.
>mfw too busy playing bloodborne to care

>>158009913

32.6% blunt

>>158006390
to make matters worse it's actually not even a whip, it's classified as a whip but has the reinforced club moveset

>>158010113
>a club that can cast miracles pretending to be a whip pretending to be a flail
so this confirms it, they'll never make a flail ever

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>I am out of silver bullets now

h-hey... does anyone want to join me for the fight against Maria..?

>>158010113
>>158010179
I almost shat bricks watching that webm of its "moveset".

11/10 puts Old Hunters to shame.

ringing at maria fog gate, password is "ww"

please send help

and bullets

>>158010006
which boss drops them?

>>158010006
Are blunt gems good with the kirkhammer too?

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>tfw From actually made a scythe better than burial blade

>>158010540
>>158010540
>tfw you realize the two-hand version forces you to edge-walk

>>158010650
It's a stance, of course it does, like all other stances.

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>>158010540
>A moveset that good looking
>Farmers' weapon

>>158011038
I mean tool. Obviously.

>>158011038
desu those are just stylized war picks

there's no damn way you could use those "scythes" for farming

>>158010540
So, wait, they didn't put any of the cut sets or weapons that are still in the game's files (Undead Settlement ban saw guys' set, Tracers, etc.) into the game, did they?

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god damn Younger Madaras Twin is annoying when invading burgertown

His AI is literally identical to every random axe shitter you'd encounter: no dodging, spam R2s, run away to heal every time you hit him

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>>158011254
Haha of course not.

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>>158011254
no, they actually replaced some of unused IDs with a new stuff
but they compensated it with a few trick weapon-tier things like this scythe that probably surpasses the amount of moves of scythe mode BB on top of more viable moveset because it's all-horizontal swings instead of diagonal

>Failed to log in to Bloodborne server.

IT'S OVER BOYS. THEY'VE SHUT US DOWN.

>>158008294
Do you have the same pic but it says "Beasts and Whores" instead?

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>>158011976
No.

>>158012181
8/10
Close enough.

>elemental Rakuyo is lucky to break 530 AR

Worth the 20 skl? I'm not doing anything else with my echos.

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>>158010540
>go to bbg so i dont get spoiled in dsg
>get spoiled anyway

>>158012724
lmao 2bosses

>>158012724
Spoiler, it's worse than the old hunters and aota

>>158012971
It's much, much better than any other souls DLC alone.
Worse than ToH but that was two DLCs merged.

Ds3 sucks

>>158012971
That's not really a spoiler. A spoiler would be "it's worse than Old Iron King".

>>158013035
spoiler: __it is __

>>158013024
Ha Ha so true!

I LOVE BLOODBORNE

why do some of Maria's attacks just randomly have hyper armor..?

There seems to be no reason to it whatsoever, she just occasionally has hyper armor.

>>158014590
Her charge up attacks? btw you cannot infinitely stunlock her, 2 attacks and after that she either hyperarmors or dodges away.

If you die in Research Hall after raising the stairs but before unlocking the second elevator, can you just like not get back up there?

>>158015054
The door to the bloodbitch opens and the elevator lowers automatically.

>>158015137
gay

0/10 inconsistent trash game never playing again

if anyone needs me I'll be in my empty tower

>>158015137
Only the first elevator, so you can still fight Failures.

The second elevator was still locked off.

>>158014826
her hyperarmor can be broken with an r2 and then you can just keep mashing.

>spent all week getting through the chalice dungeons
>beat them yesterday and the game for the second time
>only have one more trophy left and it's for the ending I don't have (Honoring Wishes)
>was an idiot and didn't back my save up

I'm so burned out right now, but I need that platinum bros. Does NG+ take a long time to get through if you just do the mandetory bosses, no sidequests? I want to speed through this as quickly as possible. Or would I be better off just making a new character so I don't have to deal with the upped difficulty?

>>158015536
Like 3 hours max. You only need to kill seven bosses + Gehrman for that last ending.

>>158015660
Are there any bosses that get super unbearable in NG+? Just so I know what to expect. I hear Rom and Micolash are pretty bad.

>>158015984
Micolash gets really bad on NG+2 or +3. Everything else is a cakewalk until +5 or so since you have end-game gear already.

You could say NG++ Micolash is a nightmare.

>>158015984
NG+ isn't really a difficulty boost at all. They just give things some extra health so you don't one-shot everything. You need to be a few cycles in before it actually becomes notable harder.

>>158015984
Depends on what bosses gave you trouble in your last cycle. The only boss i thought gained any real difficulty boost was Rom, but I had a hard time against her in my first game, so.

It also depends on the build you're using. Arcane builds that have been leveled properly can breeze through the worst of it.

>>158016362
I'm running a Strength/Skill build with the Rakuyo. I think I'll be fine. The bosses that fucked me the most were all optional ones like Logarius, and I have no intention of fighting them this go around. Fuck Logarius so hard.

>last weekend before Ashes

Yes I saw the shitty review, doesn't mean I won't give it a go at least.

Will be doing BB co-op all weekend starting tonight for anyone wants to join. Can't attempt FC with you guys since I only have one character with all three unlocked and she's poorly built thanks to some last minute urge to pump Bloodtinge for no fucking reason ;_;

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Hey, /bbg/, what's your favorite weapon/build for an arc playthrough?

>>158019057
18/20/50; almost every weapon in the game

>>158018024
>paying to let DS3 continue existing

For what purpose?

>>158003582
Not in the woods, that's for sure.
You're more likely to find non-twinks in Hemwick, Old Yharnam or Byrgenwerth.

I'm trying to keep my level lower on purpose for more of a challenge, but I'm sure I already botched it just a bit. I am to the Shadows of Yharnam and Logarius, and am level 45. Is that considered acceptable? I've been intentionally blowing all my echoes on bullets since hitting that.

>>158006485
It's even better than the base game.

>>158007251
This way you can kill it with one backstab

>>158015536
You can clear the base game in a few hours with some /bbg/ co-op, I did that for a NG+3 character, was good fun

Is PSN fucking down?

>>158009480
Just pump STR and ignore the split damage, it barely does any ARC damage anyway.
Not being able to buff it isn't a big deal.

Is STR/ARC the build with the most weapons and toys to play with?

Will somebody help me with Shadows? NG++

>>158021590
You bet your ass I do, what's the pass, daddy-o?

>>158020701
Yep you're fine

>>158021621
Pass is shadows
I will be at the fog in a minute

>>158019057
25str 50 arc, Logarius' Wheel, Holy Moonlight Sword, Tonitrus, fire Church Pick, fire Threaded Cane and all the tools.

>>158021621
Are u there madude?

>>158021848
Make sure you're standing on the stairs, bells don't work closer to the fog for some reason

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>>158021848
>>158021621
You can't fucking coop while I cant connect to fucking psn whats going on sony??

>>158022412
Nah
That really sucks dudeee

>>158022372
Still ringing, boss, no pick up yet I'm afraid

PSN might be having one those days

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Anyone co-oping or farming?

S03E12 is such a good episode of House.

>>158022853
Me ringing aswell dude that really sucks I'm stuck cause of those faggots

>>158022956
>S03E12 is such a good episode of House.

its one of my favorites too, anon

>touching a lantern resets the cell
y/n

>touching a lantern restores vials and bullets IF they are already available in dream storage
y/n

I don't like the DaS "handed to you as soon as you sit at a bonfire" route but, if they're available in storage already, I'd really kill to avoid those loading screens.

>>158024790
>cell

Just use Hunter's Mark thingy

>>158024790
No and no.
The hunter's dream is meant to be the place where you rest and decide what you should take with you and what should be deposited.
If you realized that you made a bad decision after you left the dream, suck it, it's your fault and you deserve the repercussions.

>>158025319
Force of habit from fucking with games

Mark still forces a loading screen, but I guess one is better than two.

>>158025392
None of that matters a whole heck of a lot since there's no carry weight limit.

I get what you're saying but when you just want to reset some shit it's an inconvenience to have to drag through two loading screens just to do so.

Naturally if it was a quick transition it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's not.

>>158025602
>None of that matters a whole heck of a lot since there's no carry weight limit
That's not the problem. If you wasted a vial or a bullet it's your fault and you have to face the consequences. Going back to the lantern and getting your items back is too easy.
Loading screens are underrated. They're a good deterrent for keeping shitters from abusing mechanics.

>>158024790
I just want my Bullets and Vials restocked after co-op.

>>158025759
>They're a good deterrent for keeping shitters from abusing mechanics.

I'm not sure what you mean by that since the area would reset. Are you speaking from a PvP point of view?

>>158025875
No, I'm still talking about items. Running back to the lamp and refreshing your items and HP can easily save you from situation where you would have died otherwise. If you played Dark Souls III you should know what I mean, the abundance of bonfires and their generous effects remove any sort of potential risk from the game.

>>158026296
Oh you mean like, getting whacked right near a lamp? Those situations are extremely rare though, especially in Bloodborne where lamps are exceptionally sparse.

The frequency of bonfires in DaS 3 left me mortified after playing BB. Can't play for ten minutes without tripping over another one.

>>158014826
you can infinitely stunlock her if you have high enough strength and use LHB untransformed

>>158026435
Getting whacked near the lamp is an example, but also getting whacked later in the level in a particularly difficult part.
Bloodborne's level design in similar to Demon's Souls, in the sense that there's almost always a shortcut that lets you skip part of the level.
Making lamps similar to bonfires would make it easier to abuse this.
Of course none of this matters once you decide to stop levelling up and all your weapons are fully upgraded, but it can make a big difference in first playthroughs.

>>158016082
I don't get why Micolash is supposed to be hard. Can't you just sidestrafe him in his face and his Augur will miss 100% of the time? Then interrupt him whenever he tries to do ACB. His melee attacks have terrible tracking so if you only attacks after an Augur miss from behind him you're 100% safe

>>158026826
Yeah you know what, you make a solid point. Then again on my first playthrough, the moment I open a shortcut leading to the lamp you bet your ass I'm going to visit the dream to restore stuff, loading screen or not. I feel like that applies to just about any situation.

I suppose automatic restore + reset is only really useful when you're farming enemies, and if you're doing that you're already prepared to waste time with repetitive tasks anyways, right?

>>158010540
Moveset isn't even what bothers me about the BB.

It's that godforsaken fucking useless Arcane split damage.

What the fuck is the point of it other than a fuck you to elemental paper buffing?

>>158018024
I'll be joining you for coop later on tonight, anon.

>>158026826
What are you on about. The issue with DS3 was there were too many bonfires, not the fact that bonfire lets you reset/restock.

The original proposal from that anon was lantern should also reset/restock without causing a loading screen because loading screens are fucking tedious, especially during launch when the loading times were significantly longer which I'm sure a BB expert such as yourself remember.

Letting Lanterns restock you, assuming you have backups in the bank, and reset the level would only help and make the game less tedious to play, especially for long time players with specific things to farm.

It doesn't magically make the game easier or whatever idea you were trying to spew. You can run to lantern and warp to safety right now anyway, just like you would with a bonfire. Bonfire also goes out if enemies are nearby, I'm not even sure if that also applies to lanterns or not since I've never ran to lanterns with enemies in toll before, but I'm sure your pussyass probably have.

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>>158026924
It's only because he'll one-shot you if he does something fucky and gets a hit in.

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>>158022412
>finally gets ps3 to play demons souls
>eu psn is down
I just want to die

Luci my man can you post the Defiled Ludwig webm

>>158027734
In Bloodborne and Dark Souls III you essentially have two distinct areas; the hub, which is the designated place to repair your equipment, level up and restock your items, and the rest of the world which is your battlefield.
Loading screens are indeed tedious, but they're good for stopping you from going back to the comfort zone everytime you find yourself in a bad situation.
Resetting the area isn't enough since the shortcuts you unlocked don't reset, and you still have the echoes or souls you can use to level up or upgrade weapons.

>>158028391
>but they're good for stopping you from going back to the comfort zone everytime you find yourself in a bad situation.

No they're not, if you feel the need to restock you're going to have to do so regardless of loading screens. Requiring the transition just wastes time.

>>158028391

Loading screens wont stop a first time player from going back to the safe zone if he feels he can't progress with the consumables he has. All it does is make farming shittier for everyone else.

I have no idea why you're even trying to argue about this.

>>158028987
It teaches you not to waste your resources because the punishment for doing so is more severe.

>>158029064
It doesn't teach you shit m8, I don't know why you keep saying that. It's a bad design choice and nothing more.

>>158029126
It's a bad repercussion that punishes bad gameplay.

>>158029064
>you keep saying that
That's the first post I've made since I woke up. Don't just assume anyone who disagrees with you is the same person.

>>158029064
The punishment for first time players is that the area is reset so you have to try again and your overall supplies have become less.

The punishment should never ever be a loading screen. You are an idiot.

>>158029414
>The punishment should never ever be a loading screen

You must have a fucking stroke every time you die then, huh?

>>158029230
Losing your echoes is a repercussion for bad gameplay

Running out of resources and having to acquire more is a repercussion for bad gameplay

Forcing you to track through certain parts of the level due to dying is a repercussion for bad gameplay

Loading screens are a necessity for transitioning from one area to another. Having them be a requirement for resetting the area and stocking blood vials your already obtaining is a bad design choice.

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>>158029492
>dying

>>158029545
As it happens, in Bloodborne, a repercussion for bad gameplay is going through loading screens.

Prove me wrong.

>>157954406
if you can beat laurence you've basically beaten the game

>>158029625
Loading screens are a necessity for loading areas.

You're not being "punished for bad gameplay" when you load your save.

>>158029694
Same goes for Ludwig honestly. The DLC completely destroys the balance of PvE.

Did you guys know that ludwig's second phase is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE?

>>158029810
>play like the dumbshit you are
>waste all your vials fighting an axe shitter
>run back to lantern
>you now have to sit through two loading screens

You seem highly adverse to this situation, so it's certainly a punishment to you.

>>158028323
>>158029886
Fuck off you cockslut.

>>158030109
>implying he'd ever even get any cock

>>158029886
I find Ludwig's second phase to be infinitely easier and more predictable than his first one

>>158029915
>farming for gems or shards
>have to sit through two loading screens just for the area to respawn

This is an inconvenience, not a punishment for bad gameplay.

>supporting more loading screens

Honestly can't tell if this is just memeing or some autistic Miyazaki dickrider

>>158030181
>farming for gems or shards
>have to sit through two loading screens just for the area to respawn

Do you have Down's or something? Use a fucking BHM.

>>158030181
>I find Ludwig's second phase to be infinitely easier and more predictable than his first one
Has to be bait.
At this point I literally can NOT get hit in his first phase.

>>158030391
usually I get smacked around by him enough in his first phase that by the time I'm at his second I don't have a lot of resources here

But then I almost always kill him. You just gotta stick around his legs/behind him and keep an eye on him in case he decides to jam the sword into the ground and kill you with an AoE

If there's some distance between you pay attention to what angle he swings at to be able to avoid the lasers.

>>158030391
Nope, I'm in the same boat.

Phase 1 flails around like a /bbg/ poster who has to wait through a loading screen.

Phase 2 has like 2 combos and 2 AoEs, and you can just dodge forward+diagonal through all of them and literally tank the AoEs.

>>158030391

Second phase is easier. He's almost a standard humanoid boss at this point.

Back when I was an avid Ludwig helper, I know the host's winning chances improves dramatically once we make it to phase 2.

>>158030274
>one loading screen instead of two
An improvement, but it could be better. Also, contain your anger bby grl.

>>158030659
Then Ludwig raises his sword up and you know the host's chances of winning have dropped to near zero.

>>158030720
The loading screen is faster than running back to the lantern. How much better could it be?

>>158030165
I know. Why else would he be desperate for attention if not because of cock deprivation?

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>>158030610
>>158030651
>>158030659
Ludwig's first phase is literally easier than gascoigne.
Second phase rivals orphan.

>>158031310
git gud

>>158031310
>Second phase rivals orphan.
haha what

Second phase is a joke. The only thing it's got going is the giant wave that can OHKO you, but you can literally just walk behind him to avoid it.

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>>158031310
>Second phase rivals orphan.

I'm gonna pee my pants

I wish there were community events in BB around Halloween ;_;

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>>158031405
>>158031506
>>158031554
>talking shit while you while you have trouble with the easiest boss in the game aka ludwig the accursed

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!! MENSIS WAS BECKONING OEDON!!! THAT IS WHY THERE IS A BLOOD MOON!!! THAT IS WHY PEOPLE GET WORSE AS THE MOON PROGRESS!!!

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>>158012181
>not nuns and whores

>>158031807
>comparing ludwig the holy blade to orphan
>talking at all

>>158031826
congrats on your +insight

>>158031807
http://doujins.com/13ky95ep

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Dear god what is this shit?

>>158033249
looks like an illustration of some kind

somebody should give her a cleaver that actually has some teeth

>>158033249
>Age 14
No underage hoonting allowed

So, PSN's acting screwy, eh? It's telling me that it can't verify my PSN+, then when I try to check my PSN+ on thew home screen it says that it's down for maintenance.

>>158033249
Gotta be a commission. You can tell they've never played the game by the toothless Cleaver.

>>158033808
Why would they even bother paying money or make an oc if they didn't play the game?

>>158033249
>>158033808
This is the artist:
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=78508
https://twitter.com/nir01_nirco
She obviously played the game since everything in her accounts is Bloodborne themed, I think she made that image immediately after she started the game, hence the foreign set and inaccurate weapon.

>>158034242
...Wow.

>>158034438
Huh. Thought for sure it was just going to be some DeviantArt "artist". Close.

I want to make a Saif character with 50 endurance, all available stam runes and just chase people down 24/7

>>158035278
do it

>>158035278
>50

You stop getting any real amount of stamina after 40. Anything past that and it's like one point every few levels.

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Is PSN working yet?

>>158035551
Fine, 40 Endurance then. I can invest the 10 points to Arc or anime dodge.

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>>158035693
good choice

>Come home after a long day prepared for some BB
>PSN is down
Well, FUCK.

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>>158028172
I just want to download the game pls

>>158034901
Why damn you?!

>>158036265
boy am I glad I popped some new FRC glyphs in for farming in the meantime tho.

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>>158012181
>not even the same font
smhtbqhfam

>>158033249
>female
>military veteran
>in a pseudo Victorian era
Women weren't even allowed to vote back then how the fucking hell could that slut even be in the military?

Immersion fucking ruined.

REMINDER THAT THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS CYBER ATTACKS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

might be why psn is down.

>>158037083
Bloodborne doesn't take place in the real victorian era, it's a fantasy world.
It's weirder that she's already a veteran at 14.

>>158037083
>classes
>relevant

>>158037378
It was obviously included in the OC picture because it was relevant, anon.

That being said, a military veteran that young is fucking stupid.

>>158037210
I was about to point that out too but then I accidentally hit post.

>>158037378
>ever using female
>when there isn't even a foreigner set for women
It's like you're a faggot or something

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>>158037159
Cyber bullies must be eradicated

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>>158037210

Maria was probably a veteran at 14 too.

A veteran gay lesbian.

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Is the wheel better on an arcane or strength build?

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>>158037632

>>158037765
Both movesets are good, just test them and see which one you prefer.

>>158037159
It's 2019 anon, the SERIOUS CYBER ATTACKS are going on 24/7.

>>158037765
50/50 nourishing with 20 vit

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>>158037608
>ever not using a female

>>158038034
They look terrible and yours is no exception.

Males have the same plastic faces, though.

>really want to do amy arm build
>it's at +9 now
>some 11% gems I picked up in Nightmare
>still does negligible damage to damn near everything
>would do more damage per swing, twice as fast, with more stagger and better range with any SKL weapon

Why did they make such a shitty weapon? I'm heading toward the hamlet to get some ghetto gems from the lanterns, but I feel like even with 27.2s I'll just be hitting a point other weapons would hit barely gemmed.

>>158038034
female character look goofy as fuck wielding heavy weapons hell even guys look goofy too.
Females = skill builds/Arc builds using light dainty weapons like the bom or cane
Males = everything else

Worth going higher than 50 arc? I understand that tool damage keeps scaling, unlike weapon damage.

>>158038121
>women have terrible faces
>therefore you should use a man
>men have terrible faces
>therefore you should use a man

I'm telling the Patriarchy.

>>158038129
It's really only good for mobs.

>>158038121
Nah dude you're a gay.

>>158038239
>implying I recommended using one over the other
I said they all look like shit, so do what you want.

>>158038129
I use that weapon, it's pretty good. Of course not as strong as saw cleaver and spear, but the damage isn't low.
Are you sure you're using the right build for it?

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>>158038225
yes. Tools scale very well all the way to 99 Arc. For all but two of them (tiny tonitrus and i don't remember the other) the scaling actually ramps up again after 80.

>>158038303
I AM talking about mobs. It's just garbage all around.

>>158037608
But the artist is a female

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>>158038225

>>158038427

meant for >>158038256
not >>158038303

>>158037632
It's those fucking muslims I tell ya'.

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>>158038534
>pre-DLC version

>>158038427
>Tools scale very well all the way to 99 Arc.

Okay, cool. I guess that's my next build sorted.

>>158038861
But Madaras Whistle is a BLT Tool

>>158039337
The chart doesn't specify what stat is being upgraded

>>158039337
It literally says "Madaras Whistle (Bloodtinge)"....

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>>158038129
its not the same without the squishy arm noises.
I thought it was really weak as well tricked then I started looking at it as a wacky threaded cane with a much stronger untricked form. I'm still trying to see if the heavy abyssal I put in it is worth the space that would usually have a 27.2.

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>>158039881
>using online IDs
REEEEEE GET OUT

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>sword-gun was a mistake

>>158039881
>I'm still trying to see if the heavy abyssal I put in it is worth the space that would usually have a 27.2.
The OP has the tools to tell you definitively. Or you can give me your stats and I'll run the numbers.

>>158041172
>Have a clip I really want to post
>Guy's ID is visible
Feels bad, man. I wonder if he'd mind...

>>158041590
Just set it to Name so you aren't a faggot. You never need to know their ID unless you're some autistic cunt who sends them screenshots of you killing them anyways.

>>158041803
>You never need to know their ID unless you're some autistic cunt who sends them screenshots of you killing them anyways.
Wait, what?

A. People have actually fucking done that?
B. You can still do that with Names turned on by using the Recent Players list.

>>158041803
Different anon, but what if I only set it to ID so I can bully people for quitting when they get invaded?

>>158042046
That actually makes you an even bigger faggot

>>158042025
Yes they have, and the Recent Players list is buggy and unreliable as shit.

>>158042046
Just move on ffs.

>>158042173
>the Recent Players list is buggy and unreliable as shit.
Sounds like a good reason to use IDs...

>multiple anons in /bbg/ advocating Online ID

Guys I think it's time we just shut the general down.

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>>158041269
>implying

>>158042387
Afraid someone's going to dox you for DCing or ganking or twinking or some other shitty thing?

I actually hate the idea of people knowing my ID because I have a crippling social phobia, which is why I never post webms and censor the IDs out of all my screenshots