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Bestest Friend Edition

Prey Slaughtered: >>157702803

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv
>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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>>157844225
>no "hug" option
Why is this game so cruel?
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Who are the active people these days in /bbg/?

I only have character name on so the names Ive seen might all be the same person or something.
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Any idea on getting 30k echoes to buy the BoM before any bosses on a BL6? How reliable is the coldblood dupe glitch I see Dist2 doing?
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>>157844459

Go back to red-dit if you care about names.
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>>157844459
If you run into an Emily, Inka, Maxine, or Ithiliel, that's me. These days I mostly roll Inka.
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Can Yharnam show up in root chalices and if so does she drop any interesting gems?
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just beat the hemwick witch for the first time, and got my fancy rune tool. I'm guessing the next order of business is going the other way from the grand cathedral, and through those two NPC hunters?
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>>157846194
Do whatever you want. Go wherever you haven't gone yet.
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>>157846194
Have you gone into the grand cathedral yet?
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>>157846194
No, beat Amelia, then find the entrance to the forbidden woods
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>>157846318
>>157846359
wtf guys, let him play the game
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>>157846453
We are, I just wanted to give him a very small and vague nudge because it is easy to get lost and it's nice to encourage new players. It gets a bit frustrating and boring when you have no idea where to go next.
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>>157846615
>go here
>vague
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>>157846684
>go here

Never said that m8. I asked if he had been to an area, incentivizing him to seek something out. I didn't tell how to get there or what's actually there, he even mentioned the grand cathedral himself. Not everyone knows this game backwards like the majority of the general.
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>kill pthumeru watchers
>get 27.2 triangle gem
>already got all the triangles I need from isz

silly RNG
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How do I get a badass blunderbuss? Flat gems I'm guessing, but who drops them?
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Holy shit
I came back to this page after 2 months and this general is still going?
At least tell me lucifag killed himself already
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>>157846949
good shit dude
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>>157848627
We're still going strong, but don't speak that name
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>>157848627
Last I heard he was in the hospital after downing a bunch of pills, so unfortunately no, not yet.
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>page 9
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>>157851960
If anything, Bloodborne warns against these.
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>>157852015
Not necessarily. While the use of blood led to the scourge of beasts, and we've got granny sedatives, we constantly use blood anyways and sedatives provide no negative effect to the player.

On the witchcraft side we've got Arcane and the investigations into ascension, which -- though fraught with failures -- are generally considered to be good things eg. becoming a Great One after killing MP and bringing humanity into a new era.

Homosexuality is obviously promoted as a positive thing as evidenced by the presence of weapons such as the Chikage and Bowblade.
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>>157852015

Not really, you're constantly injecting yourself with foreign substances when you're in a bad spot
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>>157852272
>Homosexuality is obviously promoted as a positive thing as evidenced by the presence of weapons such as the Chikage and Bowblade.
If you'd said Chikage and Threaded Cane it could have been a 10/10 post.
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>>157852272
>>157852572
Ah but remember, granny was hooked on them, goes steadily more senile and wanders off to look for more, dying in the process. Sedatives might have no negative effect for the player because vidya games, but granny wasn't doing too well, she had to turn to drugs to cope. And the blood has nothing but a bad reputation, we know why its dangerous. We get out of its problems only by devilish contract.

Well, Byrgenwerth considers it good and had exactly one good example and he as turning into a mushroom, unable to talk, who got where they are by slaughtering a hamlet of innocents. Mensis is full of psychopathic mad wizards who destroy the entire city, hardly paragons of progress and virtue. And I'm not thoroughly convinced our 'ascension' was a good thing, all we do is become the surrogate child for the Doll. Is that man's destiny? Only to become the children of alien horrors all too happy to let us destroy ourselves like two previous civilizations did?

Won't argue the third point, even though I'm find of the Bowblade.

I mean, the whole theme of the game is it's all fucked and horrible and weird, nothing's presented in any kind of a purely positive light, not even Gary the Chapel Dweller.
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>>157853542
>Mensis is full of psychopathic mad wizards who destroy the entire city, hardly paragons of progress and virtue.

Real-world progress is far more destructive.
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>>157853542
I just felt like bashing the Cane. Clearly >>157852272's entire post was ridiculous and all any of the blood ministration and attempts at ascension did was hurt, and/or kill everyone involved.
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Post rare Micolashes
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>>157855771
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Someone wants to run Hemwick with me=
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>>157856454
Sure thing, fuck these chalices, what's the pass my guy?
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>>157856516
bbgg, ringing at lamp
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>>157855771
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>>157848627
i haven't been here in months but i'm sick in bed so i have way too much time on my hands, so here i am checking out /bbg/ once again. miss this place.
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>>157856616
>bbgg
surely that's a typo and the pass is 'bbg'?
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>>157856616
Be there in a sec, anon
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>>157857093
pass is bbgg m8
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How many kin enemies/bosses are in the game anyway?

are kin down gems safe to use in DLC? Against Living Failures and Hamlet enemies?
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>>157858220
You can just riposte them, so I donb't think it matters.
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>ring sinister bell in hemwick
>get invaded twice before reaching bell maiden

Not bad at all.
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I have never got blasted like that by the Witches TWICE IN A ROW
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For a twink would I be better off with 25 in damage stat or giving some extra points to Vit?
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>>157858590
they CAN get you. but its just rare their AI will ever do anything competent.
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>>157858590
thanks for the help anyway
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>>157859354
Sorry about that, anon, glad you got them
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How are invasion runs, /bbg/? Runs where you keep your Sinister Bell ringing at all possible times to invite invaders in?

Thinking of starting one to get more familiar with PVP.
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Ringing at Forest lamp with pass bbgg

>>157859580
Don't. You'll only face ganks and twinks. Either make a 98™ or something around 55 and mensis gems for fights in Frontier.
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>>157860757
I'll join. BL? NG?
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could anyone give me a list throughout history of some of the most cancerous builds throughout PvP?
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>>157861306
29
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>>157861498
Well that was weird.
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I want Ludwig to vore me
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>>157855771
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>>157855771
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>there will never be a western themed Fromsoft game that has a Southern Belle as the level up lady
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Stop bumping a dead general. Let /bbg/ rest already.
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>>157866109
>inb4 miyazaki teams up with kojima and this is exactly what happens
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>>157866109
>americans
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>>157866249
Says the one bumping it with a post devoid of any substance.
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>>157866249
The nightmare swirls and churns unending.
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>>157866278
Miyazaki and Kojima are polar opposites, they would probably kill each other before the project gets an official name
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>>157866249

But I wanna co op later tonight with folks who are way overpowered for the content I'm doing and completely trivialize the experience.

Where else would I find people with a pulse
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>>157866109
I'd rather an age of sail one instead, exploring vast oceans teeming with monsters and exploring increasingly wilder and more nightmarish islands the farther out you go. NPC battles are sea raiders and lost explorers who have gone mad.
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>>157859580
Its pretty fun unless you get asspained from getting OUTSKILLED like this guy >>157860757
keep in mind as a 98™memer you'll probably get invaded by people doing the story trying out pvp with 12% gems making fights a bit easy unless you had a backup +6 weapon with weaker gems.
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>Beckoner does Brush Off Dust gesture after the boss battle
>as if he's the one who didn't get hit by Orphan's bolt three times in a row and spent a majority of the fight pumping vials and getting slammed
Kek
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>>157869194
he's probably 12 and is running to his friends about how he's beating bb and got the plat without help yadda yadda
>when one of his friends decide to cheekily check his trophy screenshots and sees cooperators in mid gesture
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does the all weapons achievment require guns aswell?
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>>157869960
Yes, every weapon needs to be in your inventory at the same time, even the torch.
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>>157870101
forgot to buy the Rosmarinus
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>>157869479
There was a plague of hosts blanking out cooperators the second the boss died over the summer. The prevailing theory here was it was kiddies who didn't want summons to show up in their trophy screenshots.
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>>157870958
Can you imagine the pathetic waste of skin that spread that shit? I wonder if I could find a "psa" about it on reddit, gfaq or fextra.
Kids these days have no fighting spirit.
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>>157870958
I'm not sure if it was about the trophies, it happened to me when I got summoned to fight headless bloodletting beast, which is a trophyless boss.
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>>157871260
>tfw defector Antal proudly showing in my Darkbeast Paarl trophy
Not even mad, I fucking hate darkbeasts.
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>>157870958
>>157871260
>>157871359
Do you have to record anything on the ps4 for players to show up under the met players menu? My list never fills up with names to harass.
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>>157871630
No, it's supposed to work like it did for the PS3.
Mine hasn't updated in a while, maybe it's a bug.
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>>157871630
>>157871752
My list is always fucked too. Idk how they managed to screw that up; the PS3 never had problems with it. Some turbo-autists will set it to show Online ID so they know who to bitch to, but you'd be better off scooping your prostate out with a spoon.
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>>157871528
>Hating on mad as fuck wank demon
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>>157871528
I dont think what you did was what they were complaining about.
>>157855771
Click my image.
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>>157871752
How is it SUPPOSED to work?
>>157871797
Weird maybe its because of our privacy settings?
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>>157872168
>How is it SUPPOSED to work?

You play with people. They immediately show up in the list. The list's timestamp is accurate. You know with 100% confidence that the most recent entry on the list is the pursuers-spamming ninja-flipping SL800 you just invaded.
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>>157872168
>How is it SUPPOSED to work?
Simple, you meet players online and their names appear in the list.
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>>157872306
>>157872308
I thought it was that easy, something must be wrong on my end. Gonna check profile settings.
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>>157870958
Another theory was that the host got pissed you killed the boss they were having hell of time with in less than 2min.
I can see that happening as well.
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>>157872614
Why summon then
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>>157873014
They wanted only a little help and they're dumb or had to drop bb for irl shit?
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>>157873186
I don't know, it still seems like a stretch of logic.
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>>157873186
I doubt it, because it seemed to be a trend last summer. It happened to me a couple of times and I heard a lot of people complaining about it here on /bbg/. Now nobody does it anymore.
It must have been an epic Reddit prank, or maybe some famous streamer started it.
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>>157873321
Yeah it wasn't my theory just something I remembered reading. Imo i was in awe at the power shown by coopers sometimes. Really made me want gems.
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>>157869194
It's more annoying when they walk through the boss fog and just die.
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>>157873363
>streamer
With the lack of written posts from my google-fuing im thinking it was some obnoxious streamer that got salty.
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>>157873736
shit like this usually happens to me, except not at the start of the fight

summoned some guy to help me with undead giant in lower pthumer, got the giant to half hp without taking a single hit and then I just ran to his oneshot mace attack for no reason
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>>157874235
>>157874235
it's not a one-shot it just hits you 20 times at the same time the fight is super easy and you're bad and im so good at the game and good at life
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>page 10
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Post fun bb picz
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>Bloodborne will never get a sequel/prequel/another dlc or huge, game changing patch
>It will be doomed to eventually fade into obscurity and eventually lose all activity
>Ashes of Ariandel looks alright, but certainly not enough to save the train wreck that is DaS3
Bloodborne was a near perfect game, it's sad knowing Miyazaki will never be able to match it.
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>>157873736
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Someone ought to edit Ludwig's boss health bar onto this gif.
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>>157877301
There's at least one more of these, I think it's the Cleric Beast dog one? I only have a webm though, no gif, doesn't really work without sound though, the dog's howls are what make it.
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>>157877431
>Miyazaki will never be able to match it
with a shitty attitude like that he wont
>>157873736
>>157874235
>>157874592
we were all jerome before
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>>157877431
Good, a sequel would be shit and retroactively ruin it.
Falling with integrity is better than going for the Dark Souls route.
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>>157877681
It's stunning how many people fail to understand this.

>>157877102
Never forget Kenneth
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>>157877257
how would he have 19 insight already? assuming the CB is his first boss
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>>157877102
9000 hours in mspaint
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>>157877985
>get insight from discovering CB, or madman's knowledge found in CY
>use it to buy small bell
>do lots of co-op
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>>157877431
Doesn't need a sequel or prequel, From can't into them and the story is perfectly self-contained. More DLC would be nice, but apart from adding an area into Byrgenwerth where that trap door is, what else is there to add like that?

>fade into obscurity

Nigga people are still playing Demon's Souls, modern From RPGs, even fucking DS2, cannot die. We get new players coming in here a lot, even if they don't stay in our autism hole, they've got and are playing the game. Don't be some glum.
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>>157877985
artists are ignorant to things like that
>>157877102
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>>157877681
I know, I just miss it and DaS3 is so fucking subpar, hell, even the fact that Millwoods is the name of the area I live in has already lost it's amusement.
One of the bosses is pretty much just mixing Gehrman with Maria for fucks sake.
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>>157877753
I had fucking forgotten about this horrible thing
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>>157878202
>I just miss it
Then fucking play it. We all are.

>>157877102
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>>157878141

But I rather have more people to play with, more new areas to explore, enemies fight and more weapons, even if it means a slightly less special sequel.

The core gameplay and general aesthetics of the game are just way too damn good to toss aside forever.

So yea, I will hope for a sequel or a spiritual spinoff whatever. And I'll be damn pleased if it gets announced this December at the PlayStation experience event. Perfect timing too since it will be more than a year and a half since the original BB
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>>157878552
You are everything that is wrong with the modern gaming industry.

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>>157878278
Pshh it's dead.
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>>157878202
Ashes of Ariandel is going to be the worst From DLC in my opinion, after watching the trailer and gameplay preview it was pretty surprising for me to notice that literally nothing I saw caught my imagination or made me want to play it.
It doesn't bother me too much since Dark Souls III itself didn't really impress me, but if something similar happened to Bloodborne it would be depressing for me.
Talking about this reminded me how excited I was for The Old Hunters after watching the Tokyo Game Show trailer, and how it surpassed my already high expectations.
It's such an amazing trailer. Maybe using the Holy Blade theme was overkill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDuVK4J2hE8
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>>157878725
He just woke up from the nightmare. You unleashed him in the waking world.
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Evening /bbg/.
Don't suppose any of you are farming FRC gems and require company?
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>>157878841
Fuck mang, TOH dlc trailer was the hypest shit ever, I must have watched that thing a hundred times.
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>>157877753
>>157878278
>>157878725
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>>157878673
Oh please, don't be some angsty teenager pretending to pull that purity old school hardcore gamer shit and complain about modern gaming. If you hate modern gaming so much, you wouldn't have shelled out money for TOH.

Also I did all that hardcore gamer shit before. Farming cow level, raiding, climbing the leader boards on pre 1.6 CS servers. It's not special, it's just hours.

I like BB and I wanna see more. Streamline the fucking Chalice dungeon system shit too while they at it so we don't have to be save scamming autismos just to have something to farm.
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>>157878552
I want more BB gameplay, I just don't want more BB, we've sene how it turns out with Souls. New setting, new game, use what they learned from BB, that's we need.
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>>157879514
jesus
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Do you lot use any other resources for finding chalice gems than what's in OP? I want some flat fire gems or flat physicals for my twink.
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>>157879731
See >>157879781
Note how you love BB so much, despite it NOT being a direct Souls sequel.

We all now Memezaki's next project will have the same gameplay anyways so why get so worked up?
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>>157879913
Mensis/Hamlet gems are good enough.
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>>157879781

My total playtime with the Souls series steadily decreased with every sequel, but I have no regrets. I actually had less hours in vanilla BB than vanilla DS2, can't remember what the final hours are after all the DLCs and all.

They're still all better than the other shitty games I wasted money on.

They can do Futureborne, Bloodborne 2 or Niggerborne for all I care. I want more.
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>>157879514
MAJESTIC
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What's the highest % rating for Poorman's blood gems?
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>>157880776
12.2%+27%
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>>157877102
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>>157877102
>>157881913
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>27 posters

Do I even wanna try to get some co op going or should I just go farm some shit
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>>157882812
I might join if you plan on doing co-op.
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>>157882812
Where do you want to co-op/what level/cycle?
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>>157877102
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Hey guys I'm seriously thinking of using having enough Arcane to use ebrietas and the other Hunter tools on any builds

Don't care if I have to cut off a few HP points

Think about it, with BLT you have Chikage and Bloodletter tricked and cannot use a damn parry while using that, unless you untrick

or the Logarius wheel and HMLS
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>>157884510
Lots of people do this already.
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>>157884510
Blt builds usually have shitty visceral damage especially if you're using Korean gems, just unzip your Chikage after parrying.
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>>157884759
>Korean gems

What the fuck are you on about

Also,

>Thinks baiting parry with a gun ready is the same as catching people offguard when you're two handing a weapon
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>>157884967
>What the fuck are you on about
off-shape BLT gems

You've really never seen that term before, despite it popping up multiple times in every thread?
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>>157884967
31.5% Out-of-shape gems. Unzipping someone with those gems will usually kill them.
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>>157885097
>>157885214

That shit is like finding a fucking unicorn why would you even recommend that shit to someone knowing you have a 1 percent chance of even seeing an off shape gem with the stats you're looking for
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>>157885567
Somebody missed their nap time today.
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>>157885567
You'll get 1-3 Oos gems every 99 runs usually. Very few would be perfect 31.5%, but you can settle with +30% with Beast, Kin, Stam curses for PvP. They're rare but they aren't unicorns.
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>>157882932
>>157883180

I'm farming some winter lanterns on my BLT character for ghetto gems

But if you guys are really that bored we can give NG+ Laurence a shot
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>>157885852
Sure, I'll boot up. Laurence gives me hell.
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I love when noobs pop into the thread and say a bunch of stupid shit despite having no idea what they're talking about.

Glad I didn't get suckered in to answering his initial post.

>>157885852
I'll come.
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>>157886009
>Glad I didn't get suckered in to answering his initial post.
The worst part is when you get stuck in the conversation and want to stop replying but they just keep staying dumber and dumber shit.
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Welp, I've finally made an Isz Root chalice on my BLT build.

Time to farm.
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I noticed I have a 18% physical gem with no secondary stats.

Is that a static loot from somewhere? I don't remember farming for anything yet.
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>>157886389
See >>157885567 anytime you feel your resolve falter.
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>>157886424
Base game loot, yeah. Forget where. Mensis, probably.
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>>157884967
>What the fuck are you on about

Korean applies to the fact Korean gamers are notorious for grinding shit in games, so to get the best gems, you need to farm like a Korean gamer

Korean gems just means gems farmed like you were grinding like a Korean gamer
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NG+ Laurence

Ringing at Hunter's Nightmare lamp, pass bbg
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>>157886424
I think Watchers in Lower Pthumeru, unless you're talking about the droplet from Mensis.
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>>157886681
On my way.
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>>157886681
Ringing.
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Fucking Rie kek

Segalt I'm ringing near fog
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>>157887217
Sorry about that.

Got flattened.
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And down goes another while I'm typing this, sorry dawg. Ringing near fog, right behind the gates basically
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>>157887217
>>157887310
>>157887315
>invasion fails horribly
>the two summons still die before reaching the fog

I guess I must have done something right after all.
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>>157887315
Fuggin' latency man lol.

>>157886718
There's an 18% Radial in Mensis somewhere near Micolash.
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So are Lost/Uncanny/Normal Weapons unnecessary if you're going for offshape gems then?
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>>157887565
Farm the gems first then upgrade the version you have the gems for.
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Max you coming? Ringing behind the opened gates leading to Laurence still.
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>>157887843
Yeah I've been ringing exactly where I died since I died.
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>have to kill wetnurse soon so I can spend rapidly accumulating insight on rocks
>don't want workshop to be on fire
>don't want to start NG+ just yet
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Man, that was lame. His arm pulled me into his lava and trapped me while he was doubled over.
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Got'em, sorry I was too chickenshit and spammed Gatling Gun for a good while there.

Thanks Segalt and Max for coming.
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>>157888353
Cheers, m8.

Laurence is a mess in NG+. I came close to dying in that lava twice.
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ringing for Logarius

I've had enough of his bullshit and I have to climb two big fucking ladders to get here

password is "ww"

enjoy being downscaled to level 40
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Just to be sure. I can sell or dump all the early game weak gems right. There's no secret or combiner whatever with them.
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>>157888858
will ring at fog
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>>157888896
Yup; nope.
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I have two 22.3% Physical Gems

One increase stamina by 2.8%, the other by 3%. Is it safe to stack? Or stick with one.
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>>157888950
okay that's my bad for trying to land an R2 on him.

It was 800 damage, not worth it.
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>>157877985
It's blood moon phase already, so he skipped the CB until then, plenty of time to get 19 insight.
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>>157889419
Still has base VIT though.

fucking twinks
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>>157889352
They won't make much a difference stacked.
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Running first Chalice Dungeon anyone wanna tag?
>Lvl 74
>Pass: bbg
>Glyph: 3n7q
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Is Orphan considered a kin?

Is any relevant boss considered a kin besides Ebrietas?
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>>157891091
Orphan is not kin.
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>>157891091
Rom, Celestial Emissary, Amygdala
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>>157892023
Amygdala isn't kin.
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>>157892136
Really? My bad.
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>Bloodletting beast
>Get it to 5%
>Does the wide swipes
>Okay, it's two, then a bite
>Dodge then wait for the bite
>Dodge
>It's ANOTHER swipe
>Attack it
>Does ANOTHER swipe that hits me for 90% HP
>Okay I'll just get the fuck outta dodge
>Does ANOTHER wide swipe after a cooldown and kills me

lol okay game, FUCK OFF.
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>>157848627
It won't be going for much longer. This place is dying and there's nothing that can be done to save it
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Anyone know where can I search for Chalice coops or someone that wants to join? I've been on co-op search for 30min+
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>>157893271
You going back to /dsg/ would be a good start.
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Yo who wants to rip up Orphan's asshole? Pass: Rip
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>>157893618
On my way
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>>157893389
What level are you. 120 and below can get action through SRRC in seconds.
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>>157893750
Thanks hoontah
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>>157893879
Forgot to ask: Are you ringing at the fog or the hut lamp?
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>>157893942
At the fog, my man.
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>>157894051
Got it; I'm ringing. Pass is set to 'Rip' as well
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>>157893865
74 I got 1 but it was really low level
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>>157894051
Weird. I'm ringing, but I'm getting nothing.
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>>157894143
Make sure your Network settings is set to Worldwide and you aren't using covenant runes besides Impurity. Might be just me but other covenant runes reduce traffic for me so it could be that. You could probably find action in Byrgenwyrth and anywhere after, DLC could be active too.
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>>157894370
My internet's not the greatest.
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>>157894370
Thanks friendo that could not have gone better.
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>>157894716
Cheers
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>>157894390
I thought you needed to be in Hunters Dream to join a chalice, also I defeated byrgenwyrth already I am at nightmare frontier
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>>157894803
Is this your first playthrough? Are you trying to find someone to help you or trying to help others?
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>>157894963
Both, just want to get some good loot and/or fight some badass bosses with someone
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>>157894963
Yes first
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I want to make an Irene the Bro build.

Give me fashion ideas and weapons.
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>>157895413
You want to make what?
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>>157895354
>>157895216

First altar in the Hunters Dream is for SRRC, it'll let you join others who are doing dungeons you have already completed or within the same depth and below. Or you can ring your Small Resonant Bell in other areas of the main game, some of the earlier places are barren. Byrgenwyrth is active for lower levels though.

You can join players for bosses you have already defeated. Beckoning Bell let's others join you in areas you haven't killed the boss in. You could always ask for help here, but since it's your first playthrough I'd advise soloing every boss you come across at least once or twice before summoning help.
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>>157895795
Any recommendations of areas where I can help others? Last boss I killed was The One reborn
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>>157895905
>>157895905
Any of the last three areas you cleared will be busy.
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>>157895905
Rom is pretty active, Shadows maybe. Not sure about One Reborn but you could try. Anywhere before (Nightmare Frontier can be done before Rom) could be less active but you'll probably get someone if you wait long enough. Try Cainhurst and the DLC too if you have it. SRRC should be the most active though.
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Is there a good way to do chalice dungeons while also doing the main game?
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>>157896105
Don't have DLC, planning to get it when I end the game. Going to be at Rom and Caihurt if anyone needs help
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Do I still get Insight after defeating the boss again?
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>>157896146
I just do them the moment I get the first chalice from BSB. If they get too hard or you don't have materials for the next dungeon just come back later.
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>>157896802
yes
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>>157897531
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>>157855771
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Rom is really tought when low leveled, all beckoners dieing
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>>157898386
I could help if you set a pass

story Rom, right?
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>>157898386
If you aren't strong enough to bum rush & nuke her then you have to do it the slow way and clear the spiders first.

Obviously most randoms summoning for help won't have the patience to do that.
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>>157898652
Actually was helping out people, 4th beckoner was the charm
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Anyone up for Ludwig I'm reaching the fog gate in like 5 mins

Pass bbg
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>>157898895
Booting up now.
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>>157898895
Will be there. Booting up.
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Welp that was silly of me ringing again?
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Did you guys go in without me? Ringing at fog.
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>>157899550
Yeah, don't summon Valtr either. Wait for our other anon cooperator.
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This clearly straight edge deals serrated damage because...?
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>>157899802
because it's a church weapon
church love blood
church make weapon that bleed good
real good
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God DAMN it, I keep messing the timing dodge off

last try?
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>>157899914
Not last try. We go until it's dead, anon.
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>>157899914
when he raises the sword, just let the first AoE blast hit you and run behind him. The tracking on the wave won't be able to get you.

ringing
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>>157899957
>>157899969

Thank you very much anons, good hunt and finally slayed that church bastard
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Do viscerals count as thrust damage?
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>>157899802
It makes sense in a weird kind of way: Something is serrated because it has all those teeth on the blade, the Church Pick is a giant tooth.
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>>157900664
No.
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Is there going to be another BB DLC or have we seen the end of it?
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>>157900613
Yes
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new player, still just playing through the game for the first time, but I'm curious as to which is a more effective gem- one that raises physical damage, or one that raises a specific type (thrust/blunt).
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>>157902219
Physical damage for most weapons, blunt damage for Logarius wheel or boom hammer, thrust for rifle spear or church pick.
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>>157892243
Why didn't you just shoot it?
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>>157902345
And Reiter.
You said Rifle spear but forgot the Reiterpallasch?
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>>157902219
>>157902552
Thanks for the help. Actually using the rifle spear now so I'll try to keep an eye out for thrust atk gems.
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>>157902552
Because the Reiter only has thrust attacks when it's untricked, and even then it still has a few moves that are blanket physical.

Rifle Spear isn't that good of a choice for thrust gems either, considering the shotgun won't benefit from them and the tricked moveset is largely slashes and not pokes.
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>>157884510
>Hey guys I'm seriously thinking of using having enough Arcane to use ebrietas and the other Hunter tools on any builds
heres what my last bb build was, back in may or something. shouts out to anyone who remembers me from fc.
i was 98 meme build for a bit but i switched it up and got 20 skill later on to try new weapons.
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>>157902219
Use Physical for the most part. No weapon does pure Thrust (best option is the tricked Church Pick). Beast Cutter, Boomhammer, and the Logarius Wheel will do well with Blunt gems though. Physical gems increase all 3 damage types (including Blood), but Blood, Thrust and Blunt gems can come in higher %'s. Sometimes Nourishing gems would be better for split weapons if you have the stats for them (Tonitrus, Boomhammer, Logarius Wheel, and Holy Moonlight Sword can use them effectively with Strength and Arcane investment).
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>>157904369
Axe shitters will never cease to amaze me in how braindead they are. Every time I run into them, I think "Surely they won't use a third charge R2 after I punished the first two!" But they always do. I don't understand. They're almost more braindead than Ludwig's shitters.

Almost.
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>>157903337

Are there even good Noourishing outside of Chalice
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>>157904774
There's no good anything outside of Chalices.
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What are the best PvE builds and options?

Especially for Chalice Dungeons.
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>>157904908
Church Pick w/ Thrust gems

Has all the possible bonus damage you can get + god-tier moveset.
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"Farming gems is getting boring, maybe I should do some random SRRC co-op..."
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>>157905001
I'm not looking for max damage, I'm looking for max utility.
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>>157904908
25/50 Church Pick is *the* PvE choice. Thrust damage to fuck kin, serration to fuck beasts, high skill for huge viscerals, fantastic moveset and great reach. Plus you can get to some comically high levels of damage output with thrust gems.
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>>157904908
This is the greatest PvE build you will find.
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>>157905369
It IS max utility.
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>>157905470
This looks pretty good. I think I'll use this on my next character. Thanks
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>>157905784
Pretty Good? It's the best!
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>>157904908
Either Pure Arcane or Strength Arcane.
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>>157905912
Nothing beats pure STR for PvE.
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>>157906012
What's wrong with that.
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>>157906012
>Replying

Just ignore it, it'll fuck off eventually.

>>157904908
>>157905369
I feel like this is a good time to mention: Don't listen to anything the tripfag says. Don't reply to it, don't refer to it by name or otherwise bring attention to it unless for the express purpose of telling people not to fucking reply to it. Refer to >>157897807.
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>>157906250
>can't counter my arguments
>resorts to this crap
lol
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>>157846615
Too true, I still get lost occasionally
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>>157906403
Okay, why?
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>>157906403
Just stop
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>>157906530
I just wanted to see a thing of beauty before going to sleep.
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>>157906618
Fair enough. Sleep well, friend.
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>>157877531
Every. Fucking. Time
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bump
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Is arcane/skill viable?
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>>157908406
Yes, but no weapon scales effectively with those two stats. You can get 50/50 with 40 Vit starting with Cruel Fate at 117.
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>>157908406
Viable? Yes.

Recommended? No, you're get far more damage just going for the minimum skl requirement on whatever weapon you want and converting it into an arc weapon.
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Anyone summoning for a pre-bloodmoon boss excluding Rom (but not excluding Logarius)?

I need some quick blood echoes.

p.s. where should I be ringing my bell for highest connection probability at level 40? I'd imagine most people at this level are probably at Shadow of Yharnam level, right?
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>>157909708
At that point Shadow of Yharnam, Logarius, Paarl, and Rom would be your best choices, especially Logarius.
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>>157909708
Byrgenwyrth is your best shot, Shadows probably too. Amelia is possible but the wait can be long.
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I kinda feel cheated that I brought all these fuckers to cathedral ward and they have fuck-all to offer me (besides the blood whores)
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>>157909910
You can trade them in for Beast Blood Pellets.
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>>157909910
trust me, all of your character interactions in this game are going to leave you feeling cheated, at best.
>>
realtalk how do I fast-track to unlocking chalice stuff as soon as possible
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>>157911067
There's a guide in the OP
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>>157911067
its a slog even still, but follow the guide in the OP like >>157911147 said
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>>157788587
>>157789026
4u Lucy
>>
this first hunter in Byrgenworth is too much trouble for what he is.
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>>157912138
Is there more than one hunter in Byrgenworth?
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>>157912458
the one you can summon
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>>157912839
Ah fair enough, both are a pain in the ass, so I never really bothered with summon more than once
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So... Blood Dregs are... semen..?
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how tall is the doll in-game?

She's taller than my character so she's probably something like 6 feet tall.
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>>157914436
The PC hunter in bloodborne is pretty lanky so I'd say shes even taller than that. 6'2 maybe.
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>>157913567
Yeah, why do you think we call Vilebloods Vilecucks?
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What kind of absolute madman behind the weapon design decided that a wagon wheel needed representation?

We could have had flails, gunshields, pushdaggers, or even a lantern shield but we got a damn wheel.
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>>157913567
ye
every time you kill an enemy hunter you furiously jack him off
>>
>>157919054

Because all of the mentioned all sound pretty much like dex/arc weapons, and there's already a severe lackluster amount of str weapons. Hell, the DLC is mostly STR weapons just to make up for the fact that the base game had fuckall of those.
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>>157919390
A pushdagger is a strength weapon much moreso than a standard dagger, because you have to PUSH IT IN. Stake Driver is close, but its blade is too short.

Flail would be strength in a game like this no doubt, with maybe a little scaling in skill just to try to represent the "don't hit yourself in the face with it, dummy" factor of how much "skill" it would take. Mace untricked / flail tricked would be fantastic.

Gunshield would have to be a 2H STR/BLT weapon with guard on L2 and shoot on R2 when tricked.
>>
/dsg/ here

lol
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>>157867639
So One Piece Souls?
Would the cursed fruits be the rings/runes of the game?
>>
Someone wants to do Yahargul with me?
>>
>Try and crack a joke with my ex girlfriend on a post on her Facebook
>Get a bunch of unsolicited replies from dipshits I don't know

God I fucking hate being social.

>>157924447
I'd love to.
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>>157924925
>using normiebook

Ringing at lamp, pass is bbgg
>>
>>157925058
Once upon a time I was a normie.

Making my way there now.
>>
>>157867639

So, basically, Miyazaki finally gets to create the most accurate Berserk game?

Fuck that boat.
>>
Rering at the TOR fog, I'll be there in a minute.
>>
Well that was anticlimactic.
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>>157926119
Nothing like listening to Ooga booga music, eating beast poop pellets and smashing some corpses. https://youtu.be/pN0zsgRKuw0?t=37m23s

Ringing at Frontier, pass is bbgg
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>>157926690
He just stood there and took it. Insert cuck joke I guess.

I suppose I could go for a NF run.
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>>157900664
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>>157909313
No what the fuck
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>played some DS3 after fighting NG+ Laurence

I need to stop playing BB for the rest of this week or I am not going to be able to enjoy Ashes at all, holy fuck I need another game with BB's combat come on.
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>>157927657
>they're still imitating Bloodborne's style
jarring
>>
Ringing at Mergo Base lamp, bbgg
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>>157927894
>imitating Bloodborne's style
You mean letting M have some say in the art direction. It isn't a bad thing.
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Do I run the DLC to get the Rakuyo that I won't have the Chunks to upgrade because no matter how hard I try using other weapons brings me no joy, or do I keep playing this other marginal video game that isn't BB?
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>>157929420

By the time you get to Rakuyo, you should have access to shitloads of chunks from the DLC. Four(?) scurvying beasts in the DLC, various chunks from loot

The only downside is how much of the DLC you've already rushed through by then with weapons you don't like
>>
>reviews on DaS3 DLC look bleak
Bummer.

>>157930110
I've already blown every Chunk you can get pre-Failures on other weapons. I'm not sure how many more there are but I doubt it's 16. Feels bad, man.
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>>157930278
There are shitloads of chucks in the chalices.

Like Infinity more.
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>>157872023
>let's turn a boss into a generic anime girl with some of its features

What a fucking plague, if you don't get hard to paarls skeleton you are a normalfag
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>>>/v/355305824

>there are people on this planet that actually get bullied BY maria
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>>157909313
What the fuck

Why is there a line down the middle of the face?
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>>157935318
>/v/
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>>157935318
>>
Does anybody want to help me with Ebrietas? She keeps one-shotting me. Pass is bbg
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>>157935998
BL?
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>>157936095
86
>>
>>157936218
omw

Keep yourself maxed and don't try to dodge it if she does the forward charge. Just take it neutral.
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>>157936303
Thx for the advice anon
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>>157936380
Hopefully it won;t be an issue if I'm there drawing aggro, but that charge is what gets most people killed.
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>>157936542
Thanks for that anon, between the charge and me being stupid with the arcane blast she has I was getting my ass handed to me.
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>>157936218
>86
>losing to Ayytentacles

Hope it's NG+
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>>157936810
No I just fucking suck.
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>>157919176
doujin when?
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>>157936774
Did you get her? She had a sliver of health left, then it said Session Lost and we both died lol.
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>>157936774
>>157936885
But it's at least Chalice ebri, right?

I don't think UCW ebri could even OHKO you at that level unless you have base VIT or something.
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>>157936915
Yeah I got her. My internet can get spotty sometimes.

>>157937012
No, UCW. I have 20 vit, the charge instakilled me and the arcane bolt thing caught me as well.
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>>157937164
Well I'm glad you got her, but, damn.

I really needed that Insight.

GG life.
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>>157936894
I love this image so much
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>>157937235
>needing insight

??? I'm running around with 107 of them on NG+ with 60 more in the form of madman's, and not sure what to spend it on. I guess I could get the Beastcutter to +10 or something, don't even like it that much
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>>157937529
Dude. We get it. OMG you died to Ebri? OMG you need Insight?

You are so good. Like, wow. So good. I hope when I grow up I'm as good at video games as you.

Is /dsg/ not giving you the (You)s you need?
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>>157937529
Asking why he needed insight (since it is plentiful after Central Yharnam) would have been fine. How did you manage to kick up the autism so hard in those two sentences of a blog?
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>>157937364
>>157937364
The (5) is such a tease.
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>>157936894
>>157937364

Lesbian Maria is best Maria
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>>157937694
>oh my god he talked about stuff in a slowass general
>oh I know, I will project him as an outsider and feel better about myself
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>>157938549
Dude it's okay, he outskilled you. No need to get so defensive.
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I'm downloading the CoD open beta and you can't stop me.

Not even the nausea I feel from watching 30 seconds of the trailer can stop me.
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>>157938413
Explains why poor Gehrman never had a chance.
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>>157938956
>playing shooters

You are literally worse than the guy dying to Ebrietas.
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>>157939089
>complains about people playing shooters
>plays Dark Souls with Guns


You are literally worse than the guy dying to Ebrietas.
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>>157939089
Playing them and spending money on them are two different things.
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>>157939185
>plays Dark Souls with Guns
>not Demon's

Weak bait.
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>>157905146
>let's try that again

Why would anyone do this? Do they not understand how passwords work and are hoping to summon a friend?
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>>157939089
>>157939185
Am I a meme now
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>>157939513
>asking to be a meme

You are literally worse than the guy dying to Ebrietas.
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>>157939436
I always get summoned to a guy who's already mid-battle with the boss
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>Ludwig does his stupid human scream
>I immediate assume the host has died

I fucking hate this so much.
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Is there any particular reason red spiders are so fucking powerful?
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>>157939075

>we will never get to fight a young Gehrman in his prime
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>>157940771
Because fuck you, that's why.
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>>157940771
Probably just to fuck with us.
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>>157899802
Late reply but you're taking it too literal
The descriptions of it says that it was based off an old weapon that was used in many old beast hunting tales, so as an old beast hunting weapon it was obviously effective against beasts
They just gave it the beast damage bonus that the saws have, it just so happens that the beast damage bonus is labeled mechanically as the serrated bonus
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>>157940841

Gerhman was literally just a dexfag who got lucky and didn't have his skull caved in by the first batch of werewolves the blood curse produced.

Maria, Ludwig, Logarius and who knows who else surpassed him easily if it weren't for the Moon Presence buff.
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>>157941079
Alright I'll take it.

I still just think they wanted to go out of their way to make a god-tier PvE weapon.
>>
How big of an effect does Hunter rune actually have on stamina regen? It doesn't seem like much...

I mostly just wear it out of habit since I've been wearing the stamina regen+ rings since DeS.
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>>157941121
>Gerhman was chosen to host the dream not because he was a badass, but because he lacked the insight to resist the MP, and lacked the strength to free himself should he ever gain the insight to do so
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>>157941121
>who else surpassed him easily if it weren't for the Moon Presence buff

>Gehrman
>dude with a scythe

>Ludwig
>HMLS mah tru mentor + guidance, whatever that gives

>Logarius + Maria
>blood majix + super duper swords and staff

Yeah no wonder they would have surpassed a non moonhax Gehrman.
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>>157941294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_0gJl3tYhI
Here's a video, don't pay attention to the hand lantern bit since that was patched out
The difference is very minimal and has close to no effect unless you have an immense amount of stamina to fill with max endurance, like a 2% increase
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>>157942285
>don't pay attention to the hand lantern bit since that was patched out
Dear god why did they even do that in the first place?
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>>157942406
Originally there was an encumbrance system where equipping heavier weapons like the cannon and the wheel would slow your stamina regen
I don't know if having the handlantern equipped bugged it out or if it was intentional as a trade off for light with your hands free but afaik they removed the system completely in an early patch when people complained
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>when you kill a labyrinth scorpion, a ton of smaller baby scorpions scatter away from the corpse

The fucking details in this fucking game I've never noticed
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>>157877102
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>tfw no booty slider
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>church pick tricked r1 swings high enough to hit amy's head in idle position

Is there anything this thing DOESN'T do?
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>>157946902

Turn you into a cute lesbian with a tall athletic lesbian girlfriend.
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>>157946902
blunt
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>>157946902
damage in PvP?

>>157947702
why would you ever want blunt damage in BB not even skellingtons are weak to it
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>>157947692
I beg to differ.
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>>157947773
>damage in PvP?

But it does. Slot thrust gems in it and it'll tear shit up. Hell, you don't even need thrust gems, it still does just fine without them.
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>BL100
>do SRRC
>enter boss room
>it's hotdog
>he dies in ~3 seconds
>check dungeon after spawning back in Dream
>depth 1 Pthumeru Root

Who the fuck even does those?
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>>157948191
Always look at the chalice when you connect to someone. If it's a gold cup or a silver bowl, you're joining someone in depth 1-3 and may as well just blank out.

These people most certainly don't need help if they're high enough level to summon 100s.
>>
>Forgotten Madman's backup dude applauds if you or your dumbass beckoner die
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>>157948191
He was probably there for the item shop, then decided to fight the boss. I ran int a couple guys fighting the layer 1 boss of one of the CDs in the doc for farming gems from a layer 1 Saw Spear hunter.
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>>157948442
I still prefer it to 24/7 defiled hotdog/amy summons.
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>>157940085
BB counterhits are no joke
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>>157948442
>Always look at the chalice when you connect to someone. If it's a gold cup or a silver bowl, you're joining someone in depth 1-3 and may as well just blank out.

Thanks for the tip. Idk why I never thought of this before.
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>>157948720
>currently farming 24.8% +6% open foes.
Im really hoping the 12% or 18% of counter hit brings up my bom r1s
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>>157940085
Which attack is that? The stomping one?
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>>157949013
The dash.
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>>157940085
For the ridiculously large number of times I've fought Lud I have both never had that problem, or hear anyone else mention it.

What "human scream"?
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>>157949094
That's like the least human sound of all of Ludwig's screams.
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>>157949267
>>157949013

I think Ludwig does the Ahhh sound if you hit him enough times on the face.
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>>157949491
All of his sounds are Ahhh sounds, anon.
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>>157949546

The more human, lower volume one.
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>SRRC co-op
>Summoned in to fight Hotdog
>Host summons Queen Killer
>God dammit
>Hotdog winds up for the charge attack
>Roll sideways to dodge it
>Queen Killer bodyblocks me

I hate randoms so fucking much.
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>>157950293
To be fair, he probably assumes the more he has, the better his chances. The average player who needs help for first time playthroughs of the dungeons don't really think (or know) about health inflation.
The annoying thing about SRRC is when the boss door is open and then go through the optional area before it to explore.
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>>157946873
hnnnnnng
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1476957458678.webm
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>Throughout the timeline of the universe, you could have been born at any moment, but you were lucky enough to be born in an era where you could experience Bloodborne.
Praise our good fortune.

>>157950293
I had a host who kept summoning Henriett for Ludwig, and all she did was bodyblock and contribute absolutely nothing to a boss with inflated health.
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>>157950562
That sounds horribly off, for one the Beast Roar effect is in there and bunch and the pitch of the Cleric's roar is tone way down, was this recorded with a fucking phone?

Also when did we get audio webbums?
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>>157950562
So are all the game's screeches just pitch-shifted Chewbacca?
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>>157951050
>>157950859
http://www.xvideos.com/video631291/black_guy_orgasm
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>>157950859
You have to copy the link from /wsg/
So if you want to post a webm with sound post it there and then link it here
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>>157946873
You have to get a cheat engine to do this right? Cuz i'm just asking for a friend
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>tfw you just wanna tear shit up like a mad beast but beast's embrace is end game and the moveset requires you to be passive and careful
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>>157946873
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>>157952910
Disgusting
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>>157951631
Yes.
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>>157952164

What? Beast's Embrace only requires two DLC bosses to obtain. It's much earlier than Rakuyo, Bloodletter or Ayy Parasite
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Why do BBP with normal weapons only build up beasthood against certain bosses.

ie. I can pop a BBP against Ludwig and have a full meter in a few swings, but against other bosses I lose any beasthood I gained just waiting for my stamina to refill.
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>>157954669
I've never noticed that before so I'm inclined to think you're overlooking something.
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>>157954669
I think damage might have something to do with it. Heavy attacks build up more beasthood than light attacks, and some weapons build up more than others. Hitting anything with a fully charged Kirk R2, for example, will give you a ton of beast bar.

So maybe it's something to do with resistances, who knows.
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>>157954669
Depends on your beasthood from your armour and insight etc...
The attacks you use and I'm pretty sure different weapons are more effective at building beasthood.
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>>157905470
>female
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>>157954669
>two handed weapons will give lots of beast meter
>r2 give more than r1 attacks
>meter will rise faster against TOR and Papa G
>high insight makes the bar shorter but not harder to gain meter
>beasthood stat makes the bar longer/shorter but no influence on meter gain

Not sure about the last one though. In general it's not worth using BBP if you aren't using a two handed weapon imo.
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>>157955536
>In general it's not worth using BBP if you aren't using a two handed weapon imo.
Transform attacks build up the meter really fast as well, so weapons with quick and spammy L1's like the saws devastate with BBP's
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>>157955536
>>157955423
>>157955237
>>157955028

Here's an example:
>fight ludwig
>pop bbp
>do 4 two-hand church pick r1s
>beasthood meter is around 100 points

>fight BSB
>pop bbp
>do 4 two-hand church pick r1s
>beasthood meter is minimal, disappears before getting a chance to attack again.

Same insight, same armor, same weapon, etc.
This happened to me yesterday.
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>>157955813
Do some more tests with identical conditions and get back to us.
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>>157955917
I will. What are some good things to beat up in NG that I won't 1/2 shot?
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>>157956032
Just use a +1 weapon for everything. Then you can track beasthood. Then die before the boss dies and use a +5 weapon and see if damage is a factor etc... then move on to the next boss
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>This feature is not currently available.
>YES
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Anyone need a hand or just some company? I don't want to die alone doing chalices.
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>>157953068
best we got for bb
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>>157958172
Want to melt Wet Nurse with me?

pass bbg at Mergo's Loft Middle.
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>>157958354
Let me boot up my Amiga
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>>157958172
I might be able to offer some company soon. Girlfriend's on the TV at the minute.
What exactly are you doing?
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>>157958172
Give me a minute to get ready, then we can do upper cathedral ward. Will ring at lamp, pass 1234
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>>157958354
>>157958371
Actually screw Wet Nurse.
Let's go to UCW with this guy >>157958413
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>>157958121
why did you eat the silencing blank...
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>>157958382
>doesn't have a pstv to stream to his monitor to play bb
The slight lag is doable if you're pveing but I wouldn't pvp on it.
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>>157958382
Oh I just wanted to help some folks out, tired of my own game at the moment

>>157958413
Coolio, lemme melt Wet Nurse with that other anon and let me know when you're ready
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>>157958535
WHOOPS I'm going there now, gonna blast eurobeat in the background and see what it's like with the brainsucker noises
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>>157958663
>Oh I just wanted to help some folks out, tired of my own game at the moment
I'm in the same boat, I've got:
>lvl 98 farming 32.6% thrust gems
>lvl 98 farming nourishing/cold/fire/bolt gems
>lvl 98 farming chunks/rocks
>lvl 30 farming 27.2% physical/32.6% thrust
>lvl 80 farming heavy abyssals/32.6% blunt/thrust
>lvl 4 stuck on loran chalice
And 2 43's I could probably get better gems on, but not required right now.
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>>157959430
Is a lvl 4 run any fun? Seems like just a lot of fire paper saw spear spam...
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Ringing for Bribri, 1234
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>>157959550
No, no fun at all. Just a massive pain in the ass. Although the sense of satisfaction is unparalleled
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>>157959430
I know how you feel.

My Skill build is completely finished, and the only thing I really have to do right now is farm Korean gems for my BLT build.

>tfw I've been farming for a week straight and I've yet to get a single offshape
Looks like I'll be here for the rest of my fucking life.
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>>157959704
>farm Korean gems for my BLT build.
I just got finished farming for my BLT build, that's the one I need chunks/rocks on, since the bastard drops neither. If I ever see that shotgun watcher in that chalice again, I'll kill myself.
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>>157959816
How long did it take you to get all the gems, anon?

At this point, I've practically been convincing myself that 32.5% BLT offshapes are a myth perpetuated by master rusemen. I'm sure my chances of winning the lottery are better.
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>>157959597
Where exactly are you ringing? Fog?
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>>157959962
Took me about 4000-5000 kills. 32% gems are only possible by killing the watcher boss, you're after 31.5% gems, unless it was a typo.
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>>157959962
>tfw you win lotto jackpot
>financially set for life
>spend 24/7 grinding for Korean BLT gems
>never get them
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>>157959962
>32.5
Meant 31.5, my bad
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>>157960118
Already ded
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>>157960179
You give me hope, anon.

Oh, do you give me hope.
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>>157959962
>>157960179
At the end, these are what I ended up with that were worth a damn (people are probably sick of seeing this image by now)
I had plenty of "warm" gems, 30/29% gems and then the kick in the teeth: 31.5% gems with ATK down or HP depletes. Like your heart just sinks when you see those curses.
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>>157960179
>32% gems are only possible by killing the watcher boss
Are you saying there are better gems than the ones from the shotgun watcher?

And you settled for inferior gems?
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>>157960282
FUCK glad to do UCW, it's my favourite area
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>>157960409
>31.5% gems with ATK down or HP depletes. Like your heart just sinks when you see those curses.
That's what I fear the most, just the utter disappointment after thousands of kills.

But that's a great haul, anon. Looking at it is like being a kid during Christmas.
>>
why is boom hammer so damn boring to use..?
>>
We could do an FRC if anyone of you wants
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>>157960665
Jump R2
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>>157960628
Unfortunately, it will happen. But know there are people out there that share your pain.
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>>157960665
>no moveset
>no damage
>no blunt-weak enemies

pick one
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>>157960702
desu I like to use more than one attack

that's why I said it's BORING to use

no doubt it's a good weapon in many situations, but it's repetitive as fuck and makes me feel like I'm playing grindquest
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>>157960695
FRC farming? If so, which?
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>>157960891
Nah, just spelunking.
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>>157960695
Spelunking? I'm in.
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Glyph: 9ycervgq
Pass: bbgg
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>>157961251
ringing again
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>urge to start new character

NO NO NO

Is this how a gay republican feels!? To be so tempted to do something you know you shouldn't do?
>>
Is anybody savescum farming gems? Or even just 27%s?
>>
I got 2 great one knowledge from the bonus rooms. Idk what's in there. RInging small res at layer 1.
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>>157960751
HOLY SHIT.

I just got my first offshape. A Waning 30.4% with ATK vs beasts DOWN -11.3%.

I love you, anon. Now I have to go get a Lost/Uncanny Bloodletter. I was hoping for Triangle/Radials.
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>>157963130
Lost bloodletter is the best way to go since it has 1 of every shape. Chances of getting 2 perfect gems of the same shape are much smaller.
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>>157963130
>>157963207
The best option is to grind out the gems and then get the weapon with the appropriate slots.
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Why is the MP keeping G-man trapped it the HD?
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>>157963207
>>157963353
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks, anons.
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>>157963391
Surrogate child, maybe. Mensisfags were gonna use Mergo to do that instead but we stopped that and MP got mad for it and us killing Gehrman, removing it's two possible chances at having a surrogate.

I think the Hunter's Dream might even have been a Byrgenwerth contingency plan for being to have someone always on hand to clean up problems, I guess Gehrman was needed to show new Hunters the ropes, but Byrgenwerth has been gone for a long time and Gehrman's stuck there.

All speculation, it's pretty vague stuff.
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>When Bloodborne's shitgarbage jump controls get you killed

I don't understand who thought it was a good idea to go back on the decision to give jump a dedicated button instead of putting it on the fucking roll button. Sure, it usually doesn't make a difference, but it's infuriating when it does.
>>
Best character origin for Skill/Arc?
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>>157964008
They didn't "go back" on it. The games were developed at the same time, and jump controls happened to be the one thing DS2 did right that BB didn't.
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>>157964008
There is nothing wrong with the jump controls.

>>157955529
>he doesn't have a feminine penis
>>
That layer is pretty fucking cool. ringing small res
>>
am I the only one that got really horny during the Vicar Amelia fight?
>>
why is Bloodborne such a perfect Halloween game
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>>157964971
>gothic horror out the ass
>cosmic horror
>sick monster designs
>blood
>tombstones
>spooky and also comfy atmospheres
>STYLE
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Jeanne we got hopelessly lost and eventually ended up at the boss door.
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>>157964610
Probably not, which makes it all the sadder
>>
Well that only took a forever or two.

Will ring small bell for Farnsworth.
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>>157966010
I'm just ringing SRRC, don't worry
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>>157966010
Told you the layer is cool as fuck
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>>157963776
>MP got mad for it and us killing Gehrman
MP wanted the hunter to stop Mensis, that's why he summoned him to begin with
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>>157964074
Cruel Fate or Waste of Skin
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>helldogs, madman, fire witch, red spiders
>all in one room

We've found Hell.
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Chalice noob here. Just got done with Bloodletting Beast

How much more before I can create the Chalice where people go to do fight club?
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>>157966531
If you don't know enough to know that, you obviously don't have chalice gems. So you'd get destroyed anyway, lad.
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>>157966601

22%'s are fine, given the quality of /bbg/. Although it's probably not worth it given the current activity level.
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>>157966304
But why? Why do Mensis even have an infant Great One then if not to beckon the moon? Hell, the name Mensis even relates 'phases of the moon'. Beckoning the moon causes beast scourge to become worse, and it's because the Moon Presence is being beckoned, no? Why would the MP want to stop them? I know it gets into the whole 'you can't comprehend' thing, but there's a point where it stops making sense with these two conflicting things.
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>>157966991
They want to beckon the moon, but the moon isn't ok with them using his child as a bait and trying to force it into a giant body made of corpses, so he summoned a hunter to stop them from doing so.
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>>157967128
>his child

All Great Ones lose their child and yearn for surrogate. Mergo isn't actually MP's child, but Mensis are using it as bait.

The existence of the Hunter's Dream honestly completely befuddles me.
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>>157967128
>>157966991
>lore

Why
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>>157967264
Moon Presence lost his child since Mensis stole him.
The Hunter's Dream is simply the place that MP created as a refuge for his hunters.
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>>157966531
Complete Ailing Loran & Great Isz and you should have access to all the FC glyphs.
>>
Oil urn + fire paper baby
>>
You ringing for layer 3?
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>>157967710

Who even came up with the idea of switching locations. I don't wanna do fucking Loran and Isz on every character.

I'll probably just stick to co-op with /bbg/, at least we had some fun times back in November and March.
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>>157968120
ringing now
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>>157968283
>I don't wanna do fucking Loran and Isz on every character.
inb4 sinister hintertomb FCs
>>
Lost your session and cannot connect to you. Thanks for the help though, that dungeon was pretty rad.
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>>157961740
Bumping this
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Which rune will I be most likely to get hostile summons with?

More people will have Corruption than Radiance, but who's going to wear that while summoning randomly? and nobody knows exactly how HoH works...
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>>157969774
About 25% of my summons for HoH end up with me being hostile.

But still, I'm not sure what the most common oath is.
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>there was a point when /bbg/ wanted DS3's PS4 traffic
it's still pretty sad how huge the quality difference between BB and DS3 is, though probably what's sadder is how the same "BB but worse" standard carried over to the DLC too
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>>157969910
>About 25% of my summons for HoH end up with me being hostile.
What level/area does this happen in?

I need to test it again, but I'm pretty sure that you can get HoH summoned by someone even if they don't match your password, so you might be able to equip-HoH, set a BS pass, then go ring the small bell and only get hostile summons.
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>>157970296
You can definitely get HoH invasions without passwords.

I do a ton of random co-op via chalice dungeons, Laurence, Ludwig, and Orphan. I'm level 98. Several of these random co-op attempts ended up being HoH invasions.

I'm not sure if there's something other than being a HoH that determines it all. I've always thought it was just a chance of happening and nothing more. But, still, I'd like to know more.
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>>157970518
>You can definitely get HoH invasions without passwords.
I know that; I'm saying if you set a password you may be able to restrict it to only HoH summons instead of regular ones in between.
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What is the ideal non-dlc arc weapon? Is it the wheel and ton?

>Inb4 arc suks
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>>157970869
fire saw spear
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>>157970918
Thanks. What is a good back up. . . cane?
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>>157970869
"arc weapon" meaning converted damage?

wheel feels great the first few times you use it, then the novelty wears off and it kind of sucks and it boring as fuck.

tonitrus can melt kin but having to constantly ~l1 in combos eats stamina and so neuters its dps a bit
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>>157971043
bolt saw spear
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>>157971123
Lol, will do.
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>>157970918
>>157971123
kek
the worst part is that this isn't wrong
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>>157968283
It gets boring fighting in the same dungeon type. Most FCers are setup with optimal gems so it's not a problem if you're gemmed up.
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>tfw have at least 4 other games waiting to be played but still spend 99% of my time playing BB
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>It's a "get killed by double sharkmen even though I don't even need Rakuyo" episode

Thanks Miyazaki
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>>157971757
People still die to them?
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>REMINDER
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>>157971757
>It's a "Oh shit, I decided to wait till NG+4 to get the Rakuyo." episode
I have only myself to blame.
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What's a fun area to invade and give the hosts some sweaty palms? Bonus points if I receive fanmail

Give me a place and a weapon to use bbg, I'm bored as heck
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>Executioner Rune equipped
>ring small near Ludwig
>summoned by Sam of Cainhurst
>not hostile
>fucker doesn't even have the right rune on
>wait until he touches fog
>put on Gold Ardeo
>blank out and leave him with buffed Ludwig
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>>157972286
Probably hasn't been to Cainhurst yet.
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>>157972214
Yarharhar or Mensis before Mico.
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>>157972214
Research Hall, Bowblade
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>>157972214
Mensis is your best bet. If you want to make them sweat, the fishing village.
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is there any website that compiles slider settings? I suck at making characters.
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>>157973271
http://imgur.com/a/Adrr7
http://imgur.com/a/IghZ1#22
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>>157973271
/r/BloodborneSliders

Most suck and there aren't a lot but there are a couple cool ones. You can at least take a human-looking one and use it as a starting point for making your own character.
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>>157973271
there's not a single piece of headgear that shows the face worth the trouble of making a good face for.

Even if you like the Top Hat, you can just get the Old Hunter hat for that and it'll cover up the nasty monstrous face you tried to make.

You really should be more worried about what hair/color you choose because those are -- for some inane reason -- always visible through your headgear. Wish I knew that when I made my character.
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>decide to play another game for once
>19GB installation taking 7+ hours
Whelp, back to Bloodborne I guess.
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>>157973706
>there's not a single piece of headgear that shows the face worth the trouble of making a good face for.
You that sentence a little there bit...

Also Maria's hat, Gehrman's hat, Rumpled Yharnam Hat, Gascoigne's hat, Yamamura hat, Doll hat, BK Crown, Djura's hat (sort of), Knight's wig.

You miss out on a lot of fashion if you don't either A) make a decent looking face or B) make a face that's funny enough you don't mind looking at it. It's hard, but not impossible.
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>>157973939
Don't fort yamamauras hat
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>>157974036
um...

What?
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>>157974087

Do you even play this game?
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>>157973358
>>157973535
>>157973706
Thanks guys
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>>157974205
no, a friend just linked me here on my facebook feed and you guys seemed cool so i decided to hang out
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>thread's deader than fuck all day
>leave for a few hours
>thread came to life and people co-oped and shit

I am so mad at you guys right now.
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>>157974036
>>157974205
He said Yamamura's hat, dumbass.
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>>157973852
>decide to play another game for once
>play it
Whelp, back to Bloodborne I guess.
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>>157974475
Wanna co-op Anon?
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>>157974526
Not really.
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>>157974664
Then what are you bitching about?
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>>157974685
You don't understand past tense and/or irony?
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>>157974664
Maybe it's time to move on anon.

What's left here? The smaller the community gets, the more defensive and radical they become.
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>>157855771
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>>157974993
Thread unrelated
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>>157974946
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>>157974993
If Dragon's Dogma and/or Demon's Souls came to PS4 maybe I could.

Or if I had a life but obviously that's not going to happen.
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holy fuck I forgot how dense the visuals are in this game
that combined with the choppy framerate physically hurts my eyes

>>157974475
it's because Halloween is coming
everyone wants their spooky fix
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Any of y'all niggas wanna help me beat Ludwig The Accursed on NG? He is currently giving me the business

PSN name: MLG-esus420
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Has anyone made a replica of the Gold Ardeo (that isn't shitty plaster or papier-mache faggotry)?

It would make a great "No guys I'm not Pyramid Head ffs!!" Halloween costume.
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>>157975430
On my way!
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>>157975430
kek

if you're actually fighting ludwig though then sure, what's the pass?
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>>157975430
>MLG-esus420
Disgusting.
If /bbg/ wasn't so lonely, this shit wouldn't be accepted here.
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>>157975430
>PSN name
Just post a password, you silly clown. Ringing at the fog or the Nightmare Church?

Are you baiting?
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>>157975559
>>157975598
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>>157975559
Listening to those fat bitches talk literally gave that guy 'Nam flashbacks.
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>>157975676
You got my hopes up, anon.

I've got nothing to do. I wanted co-op. Why do you tug at my heart strings like this?
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>>157975832
If you're farming anything I'll co-op with you, anon.
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>>157975932
Sorry, anon. The only thing I'm farming for is BLT gems, and that doesn't even require beating any bosses.
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>>157976084
That's too bad
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>>157975559
Are you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>157976532
Are you? Did you see how many people flocked to "help"? Regardless of the requests legitimacy.
Dumb cunt.
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>>157976678
>Did you see how many people flocked to "help"?
Two, one of them was joking ("on my way!" without a password), the other one literally said "are you baiting?". There's only one retard left.
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>>157975431
>Obscure costume from (somewhat) obscure game
I made the most amazing Hastur costume once, but no one knew who I was.
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>>157976852
We have good Choir and Cainhurst Crow costumes, nothing obscure about it.
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>>157976797
>without a password
But with a PSN and those 2 within literally 2 minutes of the post.
Dumb cunt.
Honestly have no idea why you're getting so autistic about this, however.
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>>157976963
This post may have made my day.
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>>157977014
>>>/b/
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>>157976963
>But with a PSN
That was the joke

>those 2 within literally 2 minutes of the post

Oh wow, people posting jokes quickly. They mustn't have been jokes after all.
And your post immediately after those two. So you must not have been joking either.
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>>157976963
dude you didn't get the joke. it's not the end of the world.
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>>157976963
It's literally the "sent ;)" meme from years ago, Jesus Christ anon.
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>>157977113
>if you're actually fighting ludwig though then sure, what's the pass?
Hue, such funny joke xD

>Ringing at the fog or the Nightmare Church?
Totes not genuine offer to help, many jokes1!

>On my way!
Literally impossible to help someone with a gamertag, definitely need a password, so funny I am!
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>>157975068
Fucking nice, haven't seen that one
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>>157977389
Are you being this autistic?

Over a fucking joke?
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>>157977389
>>Ringing at the fog or the Nightmare Church?
>Totes not genuine offer to help, many jokes1!
That one was posted after you sperged out.

>so funny I am!
>i don't like the joke so it wasn't a joke
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>>157977389
>playing the xD card in this day and age
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>>157975395
This isn't /dsg/ friend
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>>157977514
>That one was posted after
>implying that makes the point of /bbg/ offering to help literally anyone, even someone like this, any less relevant if it was made after my comment. Sill within minutes of the post. Dense fuck.
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>>157977526
yes, fortunately DS runs relatively well on my PC
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if I've got a pure STR weapon, is it still worth it to take skl up to 20-25 for the increased visceral damage?
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Hello would any of you fellow fourchan niggers wish to participate in fighting KOS in the Fishing Village with me? I seem to be unable to win the fight on my own.

my PSN name is xXx-Bl0oDSte3l-69_xx and I've provided a photo so you understand the man behind the mask, so to speak. Thank you in advance for any assistance.
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>>157977735
25 is the first softcap and helps add some damage to several Strength/Quality weapons so yeah. Good for converting Skill weapons to Strength weapons with Heavy Abyssals.
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>>157977837
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, fuck off back to /dsg/
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>When the host dies within 10 seconds of the fight

I still feel like it's my fault
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>>157977837
will be there in a couple minutes
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>>157977837
sent
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man, Yharnam must've been a pretty comfy place to live before the infection started
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>>157978068
What's so comfy about it. It's just another city.

They were probably drunk on power when they initially founded the healing church and though they were god's chosen or something with an cure all magical blood in their hands.
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who would win in a 1v1 fight between Gehrman and Lady Maria?
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>>157978068
>creepy statues everywhere
>99% of the citizens are religious zealots and superstitious peasants
>Church kidnapping people and turning them into ayy
Not comfy
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>>157978281
Gehrman wouldn't be able to bring himself to hurt his waifu, so Maria basically wins by default.
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>>157978281
Gehrman, he has poise.
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>>157978390
how did Gehrman explain the Doll to Maria?
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>>157978281

Gehrman was just a normie. Maria is 3edge5u Vileblood descendant.

A better fight would be pic related.
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>>157978332
>>157978220
that architecture tho
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>>157978474
Alfred can't even kill BSB in co-op, crow could solo anything.
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>>157978449
He didn't make it until after she an hero'd.
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>>157978569
>judging by gameplay instead of lore
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>>157978631
Crow has no lore besides being from Cainhurst and Alfred never did anything special, so whatever.
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>>157978603
he built the doll while he was still using his old workshop, though, before he even made his pact with the moon presence, and Maria didn't an hero until after dream-bound Hunters were already "ten a penny" in downtown Yharnam
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>>157978763

We dont really have a solid grasp of the timeline.

We dont even know just how long ago was the Executioners' raid on Cainhurst.

None of the timelines are that clear, except that Hunter's Nightmare happened after the raid on the hamlet.
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>>157978857
How much time passed since then isn't clear, cronologies are.
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What if Bloodborne had a good waifu character creator?
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>>157978857
even so,
>Gehrman gets sucked into the Hunter's Dream when he shacks up with the MP, is never allowed to leave
since he built the Doll while he was still working in real life in his (real) workshop, he must have built it before he got trapped

>Maria an-heroed and pulled a shitload of Dream-bound Hunters into her newly-forged Hunter's Nightmare with her
ergo, she did this after Gehrman made his pact.

Which means that Gehrman built the Doll while she was still alive. Which means that Gehrman had some explaining to do (or he just hid the thing so she never saw it)
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>>157979019
I'd still play as a man
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>>157979081
>and pulled a shitload of Dream-bound Hunters into her newly-forged Hunter's Nightmare with her
Source? Maria didn't create the nightmare.
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how do the Hunters reload their guns?
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>>157979081

What little there is of the lore clearly stated that Maria wasn't aware of whatever obsession Gehrman had.

Whether he legit had feelings for her, had some weird fetish, or maybe the "mania" was referring to something entirely, maybe Gehrman too was obsessed with insight and the great ones, it doesn't really matter. She had her own thing going on and didnt particularly care for what he may or may not have tried hide from her.
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>>157978731
>besides being from Cainhurst
He doesn't even have that. He could've just gone to Cainhurst and looted some shit after everyone died.
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>>157979296
>maybe Gehrman too was obsessed with insight and the great ones
Why is his "mania" only mentioned in Maria related items then?
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>>157979296
>>157979384
And also the fucking Doll. It's obviously referring to Maria.
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>>157979342
The official guide calls him "crow of Cainhurst", it's the same source that clarified Yurie's and Edgar's names.
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>>157979342
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>>157979582
Crowsteel was cool, in an so edgy it overshadows the edginess type of way.

I like to think he killed most of the Executioners, whatever that might entail.

>>157979476
>>157979384

Do you jews not know what the word "Maybe" means.
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>>157979582
>the official guide invites you to cheese the Old Yharnam hunter
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>>157979229
>One day, the hunters disappeared, and Yharnamites began to whisper of the hunters' sin.
When the Hunter's Nightmare was first made, a shitload of Hunters immediately lost their connection to the Dream (see: Old Hunter's Bell), and were pulled into it by force, literally vanishing from Yharnam's streets.

Maria didn't make the Nightmare, the Orphan of Kos did, but her memories, etc. were used to give the Nightmare its' geography in much the same way that Gehrman's memories were used to make the Hunter's Dream. Why Maria? Because she's the only Hunter sufficiently butthurt and guilt-ridden over her involvement with everything to make such a dream, she acquires cool anime powers after undergoing a powerup sequence like Gehrman, and the Hunter's Nightmare/Research Labs match her memories. This last point is obviously conjecture, but since the Hunter's Nightmare is obviously based off of someone's memories (unlike, for example, the Nightmare Frontier), it should have a host, like the Hunter's Dream and Nightmare of Mensis. Maria is the best candidate for being that host.

Regardless, the Hunter's Nightmare was made and Maria suicided after Gehrman was already sucked into the Hunter's Dream, and because he made the Doll before doing this, Maria was alive for the Doll being around. The point still stands.
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>>157979702
Do you not understand what "certainly not" means?
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>>157979838
>Source: my oily butthole
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>>157979968
>I have no counterargument, so I must shitpost
y-you too
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>>157979968
Epic
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>>157979838
>grave next to Gehrman's workshop
>old hunter bone
>former student
>description says "he" but original Japanese was gender-neutral
>implied Maria grave
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>>157979838
None of that has anything to do with the Dream existing first or Gehrman not being around when Maria an hero...
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>>157980118
so? literally every Hunter who ever died or otherwise lost their connection to the Dream gets a headstone. did you think that Gehrman didn't grant his students access to the Dream? that's a retarded idea
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>>157980265
He's agreeing with you.
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>>157980265
There's one headstone right next to the door of the abandoned workshop. This is clearly a location of significance and Gehrman wouldn't have just buried some random dude there.
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>>157980225
well you asked for a supporting argument to the claim that Maria was involved in the making of the Hunter's Nightmare, and I gave one. Don't complain for getting what you asked for.

Even so, you must not have read the last line of that post, which said
>regardless, the Hunter's Nightmare was made and Maria killed herself AFTER Gehrman was already sucked into the Hunter's Dream, and because he made the Doll before being sucked into the Dream, Maria must have been alive to see it.
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Who else wants to be Maria's girlfriend?

I know I do.
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>>157980439
More lesbian Maria stuff http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=itsuki_%28itsukiovo%29
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>>157980424
>Don't complain for getting what you asked for.

I never asked for anything, you replied to someone else.

The last line is the part I'm refuting. You provide no evidence for that at all and just say "well I say this happened so therefore other stuff must have happened".
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>>157980579

There is actually a lot of dyke shit with Maria.

Kind makes you feel bad for Gehrman. Gets no love in canon, gets no love in fanon either.
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>>157980672
>implying you didn't already feel bad for Gehrman

Does anyone know for certain how the hell you trigger the "laurence, willem, save me please" dialogue?
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>>157980967
It just happens.
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>>157980606
1. Gehrman cannot leave the Hunter's Dream after making his pact with the MP

2. you find the Doll in Old Workshop

3. because Gehrman built the Doll while he was still able to hang around in the Waking World, this means that he made the Doll before making his pact with the MP

4. the Hunter's Nightmare was made after dream-bound Hunters were a thing. We know this because all of the Old Hunters who got sucked in originally (the ones wearing the Old Hunter's Garb) share the fade-into-light death animation that moon-scented hunters have (like the player and certain NPC hunters). Not to mention, the Old Hunter's Bell state that these Old Hunters were once connected to the Dream, but that this was lost.

5. Lady Maria killed herself at, or after, the formation of the Hunter's Nightmare.

6. because the Hunter's Nighmare was made after Gehrman made the Hunter's Dream, this means that Maria killed herself after Gehrman made the Hunter's Dream

7. returning to point (3), this implies that Maria killed herself after Gehrman made the Doll, not before
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Did the Crow remain as the edgiest character in the game?

Or did the DLC newcomers like Valtr and Maria outedge him?
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>>157981138
Valtr isn't edgy, Maria is barely edgy
Unzip master is still the king
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>>157981047
The Nightmare hunters are tied to the Nightmare obviously, so they fade-into-light.

The OHB refers to dreams, but not specifically the Dream which we are tied to; it can refer just as easily to the Nightmare-bound hunters.

The OHB also allows us to summon people like Alfred who were never tied to any dream.
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>>157980967
I've had it trigger when I loaded a save that was in the workshop.
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>>157980967
Happens before killing Wet Nurse. If you quit the game and reload inside the workshop it can happen sometimes irrc.
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>>157981326
What point in the game were you had? Had Gehrman already left for good after his "Ascend to Oedon Chapel" speech?
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>>157981419
Yes
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>>157981317
>The OHB refers to dreams, but not specifically the Dream which we are tied to
it refers to the Dream they once shared, but have now lost connection to (due to being trapped in the Nightmare). That obviously refers to the Hunter's Dream

>Alfred was never tied to the Hunter's Dream
he has to have been, because without the Doll's services he would never have had the STR to use the Wheel
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>Offshape Triangle BLT gem
>HP depletion -9
Fuck.
FUCK.
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>>157981558
Ah, so you've just been memeing us the whole time.

Well played, you had me going.
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>>157981636
great argument, good post
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>>157981570
Was it 31.5?
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>>157981691
thanks

made me chuckle a bit
>>
whirligig saw or beast cutter?
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>>157981729
Yep.

I had gotten another offshape just a couple minutes before as well, but it ended up just being a BLT scaling up gem.
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>>157981802

Both
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>>157981802
Why not both?

Try the amy arm too it's pretty fun.
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>>157981802
pizza cutter
style > utility
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>>157981819
You poor bastard

>>157981802
Beast cutter if you can get 32.6% blunt gems, otherwise use whirli
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>>157981782
>it's an "anon realized that he can't refute any points in this argument so he resorted to smugly shitposting" episode
I hate reruns
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>>157981883
is cuttah pure blunt in both forms?
>>
If Maria's memories were used to create The Nightmare, why is everyone in the tower so gay for her.

You would think she has a more modest impression of the people around her. Instead everyone literally wants to lick her asshole clean, especially Adeline and the lady outside Failures.
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>>157981996
Dunno, whip form sucks ass anyway.
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>>157982018
That's just how it was.
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>>157981937
>he thinks anyone cares about his "points"
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>>157982060
b-but muh range
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>>157982146
>>>/b/
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>>157982137
>you can tell by the way it is
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>>157982260
>people won't believe my fanfic so I'll direct them to /b/
No need to be so defensive about it.
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>>157982146
Piss off with your shitposting you fucking twat
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Why did she dress like a man?
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>>157982569
dyke
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>>157897753
Holy crap!
What gems are on that thing?
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>haven't played for a year
>start new character
>completely off-form
>get rekt twice by Cleric Beast
>run out of blood vials, farm a bit
>get up to 8
>wind up in front of the boss fog
>decide "fuck it, I'm going in"
>breeze through it without taking a single hit
I guess it really is like riding a bike
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>>157980579
>Maria/Doll yuri
is this incest or masturbation?
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>>157982883
Neither, it's an object inhabited by an eldritch being unrelated to Maria.
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>charged church pick 2hr2 has follow-up r2 that does almost as much damage as the initial attack

Does this weapon ever stop being the best PvE-stomper?
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>>157983147
pizza cutter is better at pve
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>>157983590
>pizza cutter is better at pve
For beasts maybe, sucks ass against kin.
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>>157984043
>giving a shit about kin
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>>157984373
>pizza cutter better at pve because I don't give a shit about kin, therefore they don't exist
You special or something m8? Chuch pick is good against kin and beast, also has righteous damage. It's objectively better for PvE.
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>>157984373
You have fun in Central Yharnam then buddy.
>>
>shitters constantly summon for chalices
>summoning in chalices spawns bell lady
>nobody invades in chalices; slots are available

So then why the fuck does adversarial quick-search never fucking connect?
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>>157984373
>>157984631
Not to mention the fact the church pick's tricked mode is all thrust, allowing for 32.6% gems instead of 27.2% gems. Also scales with SKL, so can be used on a skill build, not just a STR build like whirligig.
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>>157984736
Because bell maidens can't spawn in story chalices, so the only people you can connect to are people running root dungeons.
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>>157984849
>can't spawn in story chalices
Why would they do that? Fucking from.
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>>157984849
>Because bell maidens can't spawn in story chalices
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
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>>157982971
She's not "inhabited"
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>>157985119
Sorry, animated, or whatever term you want. You get the point.
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>>157984631
>>157984830
The pick is god tier, but Whirli's L2 straight up trivializes some encounters
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>>157984736
I ring my sinister bell to spawn a bell maiden whenever I make my own chalice dungeon of that makes you feel any better.
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Why is Adeline even a research experiment at the tower if she's a valued blood saint?
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>>157985219
Yeah, mostly against beasts. Listing them out objectively:
Whirli
+scales well with STR
+serrated
+good L2
-can't be used on any other build except ARC with cold abyssals, even then you need an 18 STR investment
-untricked form is pretty garbage
-shit against kin

Pick
+scales with SKL
+can be used on all builds (except BLT, obviously) with small investment
+serrated (in both forms)
+thrust moveset
+32.6% thrust gems
+righteous (in both forms)
+untricked moveset is about as fast as a saw weapon

Whirligig is better only for strength builds and only against beasts. All other situations the church pick is better.
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Can Yharnam spawn in root CDs?
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>>157985595
She said she used to be one. Maybe she dun goofed somehow and that's why they carted her off to be a test subject.
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>>157985607
No, only in the final Ihyll
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>>157985601
>Pizzacutter being a Str weap is somehow a con
>Church Pick being a Skl weapon is a pro

Do you have a learning disability?
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>>157985743
>scales with SKL is next to a +
>scales with STR is next to a +

Do you?
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>>157985743
I listed it as a + for a STR weapon, it's con is that it's ONLY useful for STR builds, since there's no decent scaling SKL gems. There are however decent STR scaling gems, so the fact that the church pick is useful for Skill builds AND Strength builds is more beneficial.

Do you have a learning disability? I can't believe I'm having to spoonfeed this info to you.
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>>157985882
>gem autism

Literally half a dozen people give a shit at this point.

Pizzacutter > Church Pick for general PVE and normal people.
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this game seemingly shrinks my bladder
every 5 minutes I have to pee
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>>157986061
>moving goalposts
The fact that there are +65 STR gems and not SKL gems is an objective benefit in the church pick's favour since it also scales well with SKL.

Even if we ignore this, it doesn't change any of the other facts I listed. Plugging your ears and repeating that "it's better for normal people" doesn't make it true. And for "general PvE" ? The church pick, as stated, has thrust damage and righteous damage. There's literally no scenario in which you'd have to switch weapon if you're using the church pick. It's just that versatile.

I'm sorry if you somehow feel offended that I'm saying something else is better than your weaponfu, but there's no need to get pissy about it.
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>>157986061
What gem autism? What are you going on about?

Why shouldn't gems be considered? After all, if one is planning to convert the Church Pick into Fire/Bolt for an Arc build, you'd NEED gems to do so.

The Church Pick is just more versatile in that its open for more builds and covers beast + kin incredibly well.
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>>157986061
>I was proven illiterate so I'll just call upgrading weapons autistic
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I dislike the reuse of the axe's transforming sound for the church pick tho
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>>157986454
I dislike the HMPH from king Allant, but shit; From reuses assets. What can ya do?
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>>157986454
to be honest I hate the CP's entire transformation animation. It doesn't flow well and doesn't make at least some sense like most of the weapon transformations do. Just a flash of light and the head's turned 90 degrees.
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>>157986508
Wait is that really reused? I haven't fought Allant in ages.
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>>157986621
Wouldn't surprise me. This is the company that put watchdog of the old lords in DaS3
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>>157986876
To be fair everything in DS3 is recycled trash leftover from previous entries.
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Just bought the game. Where the fuck do I go? I'm in the hub world and don't know wtf im doing. This is my first souls game I should mention
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>>157987023
>Where the fuck do I go?
Far, far away from here.
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>>157987023
I can't tell if this is bait or genuine retardation
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>>157987023
>first souls game
Disgusting.
If /bbg/ wasn't so lonely, this shit wouldn't be accepted here.
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>>157987023
Just go and check everything you see, there's very little you can actually do wrong in that sense, it's always good to explore, see if you can interact with stuff, talk to people again, to back to old areas, that kind of thing. Be completely autistic in looking to every nook and cranny.

I don't want to tell you too much because this game is best played blind, but that row of tombstone on the right when you spawn in, that's how you spawn to different areas.

GET OUTTA THIS GENERAL BEFORE YOU'RE SPOILED and have fun, hunter
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>>157987272
well meme'd friend
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>>157987272
>lonely

Slower =/= bad, what do you want, /dsg/-tier lightspeed shitposting where no one actually discusses the games?
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>>157982569

Dumb Bloodposter
>>
>SRRC
>must be like depth 1 or something
>I can OHKO all the enemies with my gun
>unequip weapon and do just that
>get to boss door
>beckoner (saw cleaver, Hunter set) whips out wooden shield
>maneater boar
>it's hintertomb layer 1
>he has to be at least BL65 to summon me

Why do these people even ring the bells? I have maxed gemmed weapons. I should be getting summoned to depth 5 FRCs ffs, not this garbage.
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>>157987272
You should have disappeared after this humiliation >>157975559
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>>157988913
Should I have?Did you see how many people flocked to "help"? Regardless of the requests legitimacy. Dumb cunt.
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>>157988854

How does SRRC work anyway

It scans for all Chalice Beckoning bells?
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>>157988998
I honestly can't believe that you're still trying, it's baffling.
>>
>>157989017
Yes, but it doesn't seem to do so in an efficient manner.
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>>157988854
It's all to do with level ranges. I have a BL240 guy and I get pretty regular FRC co-op with him, all in Isz and Ihyll and Defiled. The majority of the playerbase aren't us, they don't stop levelling at a point or whatever and go for the grind.
>>
>>157988998
>>157987272
Instead of attempting to be clever, can you take your meme'ing somewhere else? kthx
>>
>>157989106
>it's baffling.
But with a new player and those 2 within literally 2 minutes of the post.
Dumb cunt.
Honestly have no idea why you're getting so autistic about this, however.
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>>157987023
also learn how to die with grace
a death isn't the end of the world, it just means you fucked up
in Bloodborne it isn't even that inconvenient, you just lose your blood echoes
may seem like a big deal at first but it really isn't, especially once you get to later areas where one enemy drops like 500
>>
>>157987272
Not really. BB is a gateway souls.
>>
So what exactly did cainhurst nobles do to warrant getting fucked as hard as they did?
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>>157950562
kek'd
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>>157989316
Had impure blood.
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>>157989201
>But with a new player and those 2 within literally 2 minutes of the post
You should try to study some english before posting in english boards.
>Dumb cunt.
>Honestly have no idea why you're getting so autistic about this, however
You keep repeating the same boring shit over and over again.
Please >>>/v/ and never come back.
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>>157989316
Stole blood from Burgertown to become Pthumerians n sheeeit, later on, Church doesn't like what they have, fucks em up.

Executioners were probably lied to by church hierarchs who didn't want competition in their evil experiments, so they sent some hunters out to destroy them.
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>you have used a Delayed Rope Molotov ___ times
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>>157989201
>being so autistic that you need to regurgitate comments from earlier in the thread because you can't let something go
I pity you, friend.
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>>157989316
They stole ancient blood from the werewolf church and used it to become vampires.
>>
>>157989316
Literally nothing. Executioners and the church are just assholes
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>>157989554
>>>/b/
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>>157987272
What anime is this?
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>>157989538
Three or four, just to test them.
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>>157989654
>Literally murdering innocents
>"Vilebloods did nothing wrong!"

Typical.
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>>157986454
If you listen close enough, you will hear Martyr Logarithm go HMPH
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>>157989684
King of the Hill
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>>157989674
Here, I know you need it to validate yourself.
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>>157989818
>murdering innocents
citation needed
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>>157989927
Totes not genuine offer to help, many jokes1!
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New thread:

>>157990130

>>157990130

>>157990130

Enjoy.
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>>157989538
>He doesn't know about the secret rope Molotov meta build
Git insite 2bh baka
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>>157990217
Rope molotov is good, delayed rope molotov is useless
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>>157902387
Ran out of boolets
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