/scg/ /edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous General

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Forgot to add.
Latest RTV: Most informative show in months edition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyymbmis7xA

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2.6 has been sent out to Evocati

Stop with the bullying of /edg/, they don't deserve that

>>157765195
I come from the very beginning of /scg/ I was there for the E:D fag invasions and endless shitposting associated and yes they do.

>>157765195
Lies, they don't have it yet.

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>>157765283
I was there too, they were just as cancerous then as they are now in the frontier forums star citizen thread. The only reason they're pretending to be friendly now is because without /scg/ they can't have a thread.

>>157765283
Remember when they used to make fun of us because they were going to have millions of star systems and we were only going to have 100?

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What's the Arrakis type planet in Star Citizen?

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>>157765830
remember how we have billions of star systems and you have zero?

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>>157765195
>2.6 has been sent out to Evocati
Weee... filled out the intrusive amount of information CIG demanded and sent off my NDA.

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>>157765483
Yep.

and in fairness. without the Merger SCG would die a lot as well, Hence: Cheese Rider still welcome, for now. It it symbiosis or mutual parasitism?

On another note, I have too many ships. Give me suggestions what I should melt/trade/upgrade.

I cant melt the starfarer but might upgrade it, I'll only trade the polaris for a better dorvette with more dakka.

>>157765880
dunno nigger you find it

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46095085/S.C.H.E.M.A.T.A%20-%20Star%20Citizen%20Handy%20Enthusiast%E2%80%99s%20Manual%20and%20Technical%20Assistant.pdf

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>be sand nomad
>find legit and legal salvage site
>some nignog arrives
>steals my dragonfly
>kills my bros
>go find out what's happening
>get killed by a big worm

>>157765948
This is the inevitable result of you faggots allowing the E:D retards to crash here. And yeah, you have a billion empty boring systems and they're never going to get better, but it's still possible for us to end up with a game, unlike you guys.

>>157766215
>the E:D retards to crash here
How about you stop shitposting, causing arguments and being generally unpleasant? E:D posters simply talk about the game, post the occasional screenshot or talk about grinding.

What do you do? That's right, you try to shit up the thread with arguments. Just stop.

You're worse than the people who cry about dads.

>>157766117
>be space durka.
>attack recuse personnel investigating a distress beacon with IED.
>get shot.
>complain about it to the Outsiders.
>they tell em thats what I get for interacting with the offworlders.

So when's star shitizin releasing?

>>157766371
>recuse personnel
AYOOOOOO
WE WUZ RESCUE PERSONNEL N SHIT

Finders keepers, kid. You don't go meddling in someone's salvage operation with an armed dunebuggy.

>>157766379
Never because it's a scam funding is trying up refunds are coming in there are too many employees leaving disgruntled Sandi is using this to further her career CIG will release a broken minimum viable product nothing in this game is feasible scam

>>157766379
Probably not for 2+ years. the real question is when will it enter beta and will progress made in beta be kept.

>>157766004
probably ditch the retaliator, 315, and the reliants, and upgrade the freelancer to a DUR?

>>157766563
Wait so you can actually grind for the top tier ships now and not have to buy them for $10,000?

>>157766215
they're getting better right now

>>157766324
You faggots raided our thread constantly acting all superior about your shitty game until both threads died, but now /scg/ can stay alive by itself and /edg/ can't, but for some bizarre reason you feel entitled to share and we should be grateful for your presence just because you don't shit the thread up for fear of getting kicked out. No thanks, go back to sucking Braben's dick nigger.

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>>157766004
Melt the Reliants and upgrade the 300 to a Constellation. Apart from that, why did you get $5 off on the Prospector and Buccaneer?
Keep the Retaliator, I still believe it's not lost yet. Worst case you can just bolt the cargo modules to it.

>>157766379
2 to 4 years

>>157766741
did you imagine that wouldn't be the case?

probably going to be world of tanks tier grind though, so they can keep selling ships to retards

>>157766798
>You faggots raided our thread constantly
You're confusing me with other that other Anonymous guy. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

>>157766798
Atleast we didn't fall for the hype train.

>>157766798
how do you kick someone out of an anonymous thread?

>>157766798
shittizen thin skinned delusion talking again, nobody in old edg cared about SC much, you ""raided"" yourselves

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I was watching the new planet demo, and when they got to the fogit made me think. what if there was a planet of fog and monsters. think the movie mist. https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/3262446_f520.jpg (embed) they should be some really rare resources, or LOTS of crashed /abandoned ships. i also think it would lbe cool if there was an event like a weather pattern or storm that cleared the air in an really large area for a period of time. it could be called a clarity. that would allow anyone to go there for a time. just be careful not to get caught when it dissipates.

>>157766932
No, I'm asking if you can actually grind for the ships in beta or whatever the current stage SC is in.

>>157766990
>falls for hype train A, it crashes and blows up, no survivors
>"at least we didn't fall for hype train B"

>>157767197
you can earn REC and rent ships yeah

>>157766798
The only people shitting in the /scg/ were (and are) falseflaggers.

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>>157767425
>He thinks E:D Shill was a falseflagger
newfag

>>157767209
>no survivors
what did he mean by this?

>>157767524
I know he was because I was the E:D threadshitter.

>>157767209
E:D still has a large fan base, I saw like 10 people in Sothis.

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>>157766814
Coupon codes from some promtion or other.

>>157766741
>grind for them now.
No, but its always been the plan that they will be acquired in game. One were in Beta I'd guess you'll be able to buy ships on a permanent basis with credits. The most expensive ship was $2500. Most are in the $50-$350 ranged, the only people who have spent $10000 are people who have literally several dozen ships.

>>157766717
>ditch Tally
I am extremely loathe to, it's my shipfu and if theres any way to make it useful I will.
The 315 is the best ship of the 300s and is my long range personal shuttle, since its fast, and comes with a stock jump drive.

I keep considerering melting the Tana for something else. I like the idea of it but feel like its gonna be an underwheming gimmicky thing.
The Kore is a game package that I will eventually give to someone, the one of about a half dozen Starter packs that I bought and upgraded specifically to pass on to friends who were interested but unwilling to commit yet.

I do keep thinking about swappin g out the lancer for a Taurus though. I hate the way the stock connie looks, but in stats terms its just better in every way.

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>>157767743
Nice try, KWA. Ved all killed themselves a year ago though.

>>157766814
>can just bolt the cargo modules to it.
That just turns it into a super expensive to use aegis hull that holds less cargo than a Hull B

>TFW tempted to join KWA even though I don't like anime because they seem like the least cancerous chan org.
I play WoWS and fap to chinese cartoons on occasions thats good enough credentials right?

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>>157767114
As was said in the last thread : There's "Min"
A "solar system" that is actually just a giant gas planet. It's expected to be pitch black everywhere and mysterious because nobody understand why Jump hole appeared here.

Speaking of those Jump point, they look more like black holes than the actual Black Hole seen on the starmap,

Picture is fanart

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>>157768724
>the least cancerous chan org

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>>157768627
It's gonna get fast next patch like it was when first flyable and be much better protected than a hull B. Less volume of cargo sure, but perhaps more valuable cargo to less safe more profitable destinations.

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>>157768627
Still holds about as much as a Constellation and is likely faster. Might be useful for moving a small amount of high value cargo. Apart from that, we don't know how expensive it is to operate.

>>157768724
I'm in the same boat. The only animus I've seen are K-On, Konosuba, and Cowboy Beepboop is that enough to qualify me? Do I have to wear legsocks in the steam chat?

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>>157768752
didn't see that through all the autisic shit posting going on. also that has so little to do with what i said that next you should tell be about to alt universe in the game where water is made of NaClO

>>157768724
Sure, if you want to be led by furries and goons who pretend furries and goons aren't allowed.

>>157768752
>Picture is fanart
>Sigs at the bottom is Olivia and Gurmuhk, two of SCs better known devs.
Thats concept art nigguh, it may or may not be the direction they chose to take, but its definitely some kind of official.

>>157767918
>I do keep thinking about swappin g out the lancer for a Taurus though. I hate the way the stock connie looks, but in stats terms its just better in every way.

Wait to see it the Lancer fits small jumpoints or not. It will be quite useful if it does, but nearly worthless if it can't.

Frankly a Taurus seems pointless if you already have a Starfarer you can use for cargo runs.

>>157769136
But KWA is the anti furry org that specifically states their intention to murder all furries on sight.

Im pretty sure it safe to assume that literally every org will be goon infiltrated to some degree but VED is/was literally a goon Shell Corp, as was Kong. There were like concrete, long standing links to FLJK and goonswarm in both.

>pre release groups ever

Can you guys fuck off already (Yes)

>>157769307
Starfarer cannot realistically be flown solo, is a massive slow target and has to haul around a flying refinery wether its using it to collect fuel or not. Like an a small org Merchant freighter sure, doing a combination of fuel harvesting/sale trading and contract hauling would probably be a solid plan. But the whole point of lancer taurus is that theyre efficient, survivable decently armed solo freighters.

>>157765715
>dont lists 3.0

shit-tier grafic

>>157769037
>gay-on

I'd say you're qualified to be a faggot yeah

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>>157769397
>KWA is the anti furry org
Oh, honey...

>tfw no bannerlord
>tfw no SC

atleast Bannerlord will come out Q1 2017

>>157769962
>bannerlord post #59

Man I miss the Aquila/Avenger fags now

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>>157768989
Actually how much cargo can the thing hold now? The old number that you could load 120 units if you fill up both bays, but that was before the bullshit magplate concept and then the cargo modules themselves say they add 20 units. but does that mean total, or on top of the original number? Does the ship hold 40 units or 160 units when equipped with cargo modules?

>>157769824
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2vm6iq

>>157770118
It means on top of the original number. Adds grav plates and removes the torpedo arms.

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>>157770116
>fags
>plural

pretty sure that one samefagger

but: Best ship, best manufacturer

>>157770118
no one will have a real non bullshit answer until both the cargo modules for tally and cargo system itself are out. As far as I can tell the stock hull has no designated locations for cargo. theres places you might stack some boxes, but they also serve other purposes.

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>>157770414
Wrong.
Best ship coming through, now freshly armed with actual Polaris images.

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>>157770414
>tfw no

>>157770581
>tfw you will never be Sebulba the mercenary gunship pilot.

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>>157770548
FACT: Aurora is the best looking RSI ship

>>157770581
why did they give the useless space turtle instead working on that instead?

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>>157770801
Absolutely wrong.

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>>157770896
t. solo Polaris pilot

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>>157771161
I refuse to believe anyone would get the Polaris without support from a guild to not only crew it but to escort it.

It's the flagship of my 90+ org but let's stop org posting, anon.

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>>157770848
becasue the infinite idiocy that is RSI chose the rucking redeemer curling iron powered spacewhale over that. The Drake Brutus gunship may or may not ever see the light of day because Star Citizens retarded fanbase has shit taste and have proven on every occasion their Inclination to choose the worst option. I would rather have gotten the boomslang. At least then we'd have a memey space helicopter to stick in our polaris hangars.

>>157768360
>KWA
goredema is a literal goon, I don't know why the fuck he's using a name here. maybe he's just retarded?

>>157771438
It's called a tripcode. It exists to be used. If you do not enjoy my posts you're welcome to filter them, that's how the system is designed.

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>>157768752
>>157769189

Well I think it looks a bit more like Interstellar's wormhole.

And I sure hope they'll try and pull off the Interstellar-style black holes and jumpholes.

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When flying and I move my cursor to the left or right of the screen, my ship rolls. Is this a new feature? How do I go back to how it was?

I think at the moment this is done with Q and E instead, if I swap them with the mouse on the control options then I have to use Q/E to move the cursor which is retarded.

Pic related, you can see the spin when it should really be turning in a circle about the x plane not the y plane.

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>>157771321
I >>157766004 actually don't have an org solidly lined up.
I have a dozen long term gamer friends half of whom have bought the game, who may or may not actually play.
I have like 4 people Ive given starter copies to, who may or may not play.
I have an old EVE corp that switched over to planetside for the last couple years and has expressed collective interest in SC but hasn't really done anything substantive yet.

So I do in fact have a polaris without having an assured way to crew or protect it yet. Good thing it has LTI right :^)

>>157771695
check the controls options. I think there's a toggle to switch roll and yaw.

>>157771975
Wait for Star Citizen to to develop to a more playable state, then get a bunch in on a freeflight. If they like it, suggest you make an org
If you don't get enough people for an org, call them your crew and join a larger org together and work as a crew with your ship under them.

You can un-vassal state yourself later.

>>157772171
>You can un-vassal state yourself later.
spotter a /gsg/er

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>>157771601 >>157769189
When I said "Jump Hole" I was precisely thinking to the spherical "Interstellar-style" one.

But if you look at the "true" black hole in the starmap the current impression is of the whirlpool in space cliché.
This would obviously not be how it look in-game but since the two would be similar we can wonder.

Reminder that in theory Black Hole do not "suck you" and can be orbited safely as long as you don't mind time-dilatation

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Hello?

Survey time!
What ships do you own?
What ship will you primary use?
What will you use it for?
How do you realistically plan to crew your ship? (Ai, friends, player "über" system or other)

>>157772171
They, even the ones who already own the game, continually resist my attempt to get them in the game. They keep saying they're gonna wait till its out of beta, I have not yet gotten through to them that flying well in SC actually takes some learn and if they just hop in on launch day they're gonna get shredded by people who have been playing weekly or daily for three+ years.

Some of them have even pick picked up on the "not a game" "release never" "thousands dollar jpegs" memes and just start spouting whenever I mention it. Its very frustrating, and the one who don't spout are the follower types who just follow the lead of the spouters because I'm basically alone in my social circle as a SC fan. One of the reasons Ive been sniffing around for orgs has been specifically to sign on in some sort of a subsidiary role, I realistically have my own small fleet if I want to loan it out for orgmates.

>>157772583
Avenger Titan
Avenger Titan
Mix between cargo and scavenging but mostly with other ships with my org
Just me

>>157772583
Might as well post one of those dang ol flet things showin off the jpeg money and all

http://fubank.org/ships.aspx

https://raylehnhoff.github.io/SCFSD/

>>157772865
Not my place to tell you what to do but those are fairly legitimate remark.
Not everybody is interesting in spoiling themselves over an half-finished game
Not everyone consider they have to "train" ahead of time, it's not even like the flight model is definitive.

As for skepticism... hopefully they knew that DONATING for Early-Access do not guarantee a product but will eventually be pleased to come back on it when finished.

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>>157772535
hope chris plays space engine soon and has another autistic fit and demands their black holes look this good

>>157774191
Beware, the bible of Singularity
http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/intro.html

>>157772583
Got the exploration pack so the carrack, the terrapin not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, and a dragonfly.
Going to hopefully be using the carrack as much as possible to explore that spooky ghost system.
Crew will probably be a mix of ai and friends depending on how many people are on at the moment.

Avenger titan, aurora ln and reliant kore are best value for money ships and are generally good in all areas

y/n?

>>157775039
Reliant is a useless gimmicky shitheap that sucks in every area.

>>157775150
>Reliant is a useless gimmicky shitheap that sucks in every area currently, with it's main hauler purpose not in the game yet and cannot be judged

ftfy

>>157775039
Fine I guess, they're starter ships

>>157775150
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/335507/a-look-at-ship-dps-with-the-behring-m-series/p1

That's damaging as hell if you kit it out
Khartu is the true shit ship

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160429-what-happens-to-you-if-you-fall-into-a-black-hole

"Interstellar" movie wormhole (cause they are artificial) for comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTpbZ_Psbeo [Embed]

"Interstellar" movie blackhole for comparison (and tripping)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VPEtUgNJj4

>>157775039
Reliant is a gimmicky ship that is its only real draw. The Aurora is going to be the honda civic of space ships; cheap to purchase and operate. Avenger Titan should be a good upgrade to the Aurora and the Mustang.

>>157775458
>https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/335507/a-look-at-ship-dps-with-the-behring-m-series/p1

Ignores weapon velocity and ignores accuracy's effect on dps and fixed guns vs gimbal.

>>157769397
>Kong
>Goons

First I've heard of it

The reliant's useless until they add a way to leave your chair in vertical mode and go back to old concept of vertical mode = slow, but super agile (in all axes) and horizontal mode = fast but turns like ass.

>>157776396
This place basically accuses everyone of being a goon infiltrator. I can only speak for one of the Organizations smeared by the accusations, but the paranoia is hardly justifiable, especially considering the way the Organization system works on the RSI website. Besides, I'm pretty sure all the goons that were outed were removed permanently.

>>157776582
Why do you need to leave the chair in vertical mode?

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>stop off at kareah
>gun is fucking up and has no ammo for some reason
>pop in just to grab a reload
>leave again
>defender comes sprinting out to see who used the door
>sees this

>>157776001
so avenger is like mercedes a class?

>>157765195
when do i know if i'm in the first wave PTU or not? i've been reporting bugs like a good boy

>theyre all related to hornet ghost

>>157777553
That webm is my favourite thing ever now

>>157772535
I can only hope Chris won't decide to add time-dilation to black holes.

I also hope that the BHs on the starmap are like the BHs on the galaxy map in Stellaris: the actual BH looks Interstellary. One can only hope that they can write lensing/caustics into their "StarEngine"...please...

I'm a physicist myself and I know the Interstellar one is the best visualization there is, but you still need to point it out because of space cliché sink

>>157777553
>>157777676
cringe animation

>>157777796
The rooty tooty point n shooty makes it look sarcastic and smug as fuck.
I like it.

>>157777659
You wait for an email, that's it. I received one a while back for a PTU test and never got one again.

>>157778010
got one ages ago for like 2.2 or one of the pre-2.5 patches nobody cared about

was more wondering when-abouts i'd be getting an email for PTU if evocati are now getting their access

>>157777684
>add time-dilation to black holes
how would you even do that? release patches to people who have been near one a year before everyone else?

>>157776990
Same reason I'd get up in any other ship while it's traveling a system at cruise speed or quantum, or maybe I just want to pretend I'm taking a leak.

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What happens when this game turns out to not be a scam?

Pic semi-related.

>>157776990
isn't there a variant with a station in the cargo hold or something? would be pretty bad if you can't go to that/the (co)pilot seat
I dreamt that a SQ42 demo was released and it plays like MGR

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>>157778946
yes, the Flying Neet Cave Reliant, complete with questionable stain on the floor by the computer chair.

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>>157778848
we spend the next 5-10 years mocking the people who were loudest in their doubts and /v/ hivemind shitposting over the in game chat channels.
>hey remember that time you shitposted /scg/ for like a year and a half about how the game was a scam? remember when you called me a retard for buying this game, remember that? remember how you moved the goalposts with every patch right up until release, and then bought it for full price like two months later?

>>157779193
you'd still be a retard for paying more than 60-70 dollars on the game.

>>157779193
>year and a half
>2 months later

the delusion is real

>>157779487
you're right, certain shitposters have been drive-bying this general for much longer than a year and a half.

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>>157777684
It's not really like he could, the whole synching multiplayer and all...
Googled some image from Stellaris BH. Yeah, at least those look spherical.

I'm pretty sure "the chairman" dig the "Interstellar" black hole, he like cliché because he make Art out of them (even in his pretty jarring movie) but if reality look much cooler he will take the best of it.

>>157779487
game hasnt been in working development for much longer freind, unless you consider the idle croudfunding up til 2015 to be "development"

How mainstream is /scg/edg/? I don't like to like things that lots of people like. Which is why I don't go on big boards like /v/ and listen to indy music.

Would you say that it is very well known like overwatch or league of legends?

>>157779789
>how mainstream is a general
Nigga what?

>>157779789
literally nobody likes this game, the 130+ million dollars from croudfunding was all lies

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>>157779707
>game hasn't been in development since before 2015

are you shooting yourself in the foot intentionally here or what? That's a black mark against the game

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>>157779676
>black holes
>real

>>157779942
Well I mean is there a high quantity of low-frequency posters or a low quantity of high-frequency posters because I consider myself different to the masses and I don't want to be part of something popular.

>>157779789
Absolutely not mainstream despite what some would like to believe.

Hardcore fan believe it's the most hyped thing even because they only go at place where you ought to know SC
But more "normal" gamer usually just know it as a showy early-access, some are even shying away from those pricey-P2W-looking spaceship
As for the common consumer who play Overwatch or League of Legends, they won't know about it unless it appear either on Facebook or as something great they should already own.

>>157780337
Here you go
>>>/tg/

>>157779968
just correcting the mistake people make when they seem to think the game recieved a lump sum of money on day one and started development full force in 2012. it's a croudfunding project, you dont just develop a game with no money. now they have money and development is snowballing

if they had 130 million on day one in 2012 and the playable game is what it is now, i'd be worried. but the progress they've made since there was money is steady

youre missing the key part where this isnt a major publisher starting out day 1 with a full dev team and infinite money

Why do all the jump points in the game conveinently connect star systems?

Are they going to have jump points that take you a random spot in space outside of a star system? Or maybe that is what happens when you travel through an unstable one?

>>157780491
Jump points are basically gravity wells weighted on by systems that causes handwaivum holes to handwavium tear into handwavium reality, they need the gravity of large planetoid/star bodies to open.

>>157780491
Not fun to go through a portal and end up starving or suffocating to death because you're 500 light years from any semblance of matter let alone life.

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>>157780436
so what were they doing between 2012 and 2014?

>>157780325
At least it's postulated by mathematical model that have been the norm for dozens of years.
When the next Einstein will come up we will gladly fictionalize the next 11th dimensional string-space square-hypercube singularity.

>>157780491
look at the map, some of the "systems" are in deep space

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>>157780491
i believe the jump points will need to be discovered by the player to use them, or the location acquired via an exchange of intel. so this gives exploration and scanning ships their purpose, and one thing for info runners to sell

bad reference but think of it as needing to talk to the flightmaster in a new town in WoW to be able to use that travel point

>>157780670
I don't know what he's talking about, the game's been in development since alteast 2013. The team just expanded and they were able to produce a bigger scope faster, which stared late 2013 / early 2014. The didn't scrap the 2013 development, as that lead to AC and the "social module" ArcCorp.

Remember this? Great if you haven't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cC14YaZluk

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>>157780670
raising money and securing backers

im not sure of any other way to say this but you don't start development of a game with no money

i'm getting Goon'd arent I? hi mom

>>157780815
Shit ship Polaris is better

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>>157780670

https://youtu.be/ls8VosErVSk

https://youtu.be/IehITxsK4Fs

>>157780815
I want you to have this too

make sure to fill your unarmed pleasureboat with many unarmed wealthy travelers and fly without escort

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>>157780491
You can imagine them like "Lagrange point", except with crazier physics.

Reminder that in SC lore there's a system where 2 small planets managed to get captured into the 2 (stable) Lagrange point of a same gas giant.
basically the short of stuff that would make you scream god-like civilization megastructure

>>157780741
Einstein was a media puppet.

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>>157781104
CERTIFIED DO NOT WANT

>>157780967
this shit was all made years before arccorp
>we haven't seen it since

>>157780987
they didn't have no money. They had several million from crowdfunding and millions more slated from investors. Whether through investors or crowdfunding they had a budget of 20 million secured with the success of the kickstarter.

>shittizens

>>157780670
It's not like they weren't doing anything at that time, but in 2012 they had like 8 employees and needed to both set up the studio(s) and hire people with Cryengine experience.
IIRC the Manchester studio was opened sometime in 2014 and Frankfurt in 2015. Right now those are the largest (Manchester) and probably most valuable (Frankfurt) studios. So yeah, if we're looking at the time they could actually work on the game properly without having to rely on a tiny crew and a bunch of contractors it adds up to something between 1,5 and 2 years.

>>157780340
>As for the common consumer who play Overwatch or League of Legends, they won't know about it unless it appear either on Facebook or as something great they should already own.
*unless it appears on consoles

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>>157781189
look at all this R&D

none of this can be used in a finished game, so what were they doing? why did they have nothing after years of development? why do they still have nothing?

Will we be able to buy ships in game in 3.0?

>>157781752
no

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WHAT SPECIES IS THIS? TEV? WHY HAS NO NIGGA SCREENCAPPED THIS

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https://youtu.be/0MQX8zRXPPI?t=1419

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>>157781668
they only needed cryengine people because chris was retarded and wanted to do things the engine wasn't capable of

in the original plan we see perfectly reasonable requirements, smaller instances that can be run with the engines default physics, networking etc. an ED/destiny style peer to peer system that will make a low budget no sub "mmo" feasible

all of this real scale planets, 64 bit seamless space, hundreds of players per instance garbage, reworking the fps system

literally just money down the drain, feature creep and a complete lack of understanding by chris of the limitations he chose when he chose cryengine

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>>157781740
>They have nothing.

Go to Youtube, type in Star Citizen Gameplay. Look at all that gameplay. Go to Twitch TV, type in Star Citizen Gameplay; look at all that Gameplay. Here's (you)r (you).

>no planetside till 2017

is this statement correct?

>>157782249
what gameplay? the PU has no gameplay, you mean pay to win commander? there's better space arena shooters available for free

literally nothing but a tech demo, and the tech sucks, has been broken for years

>>157782028
Tevarin or Kr'thak

Or a cosplayer

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>>157782390

Hi Goon.

>>157782028
first and last time it was ever shown, could be a tev, could be a kr'thak, could be a scrapped design for any ayy race, I wouldn't keep my hopes up of seeing it again; given it's been like 3 years since it was teased I can only assume they went back to the drawing board with it.

>>157782459
take your meds

>>157782348
Pretty much

Unless there's a miracle and 3.0 actually releases in December (which it won't), then there won't be ProcGen planets until 2017

>>157782348
Nope. We have planetside already at ArcCorp

>>157782028
doesent matter

It must be purged

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>>157782176
>he leaves vsync on

>he thinks it has no effect because of his monitor's refresh rate

>>157782459
I'm starting to think the people responding with "hi goon" and other shit are shitting up the thread purposely. There's no way people can constantly be this stupid to keep responding to the same shitposts every fucking day

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>>157782028
I'll be kind of disappointed if Star Citizen can't do any intelligent species that isn't humanoid in form or have face with binocular vision & mouth.

I really wish movie maker and game designer had the gut to make alien intelligence without making it "emotionally investing for human" or so.

The EEU is lying to us, the giant worms are sentient and only want to be friend ! Swallowing you is how they communicate !

>>157782714
it has the effect of removing annoying tearing

>>157782716
no this is literally just how delusional shittizens are, they are so far down the sunk cost hole and need professional help with their ship purchase addiction

Ugh would it be worth Melting down the Omega Mustang for a 300I?

>>157783017
It would be worth getting a refund you fucking shittizen

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>>157782176
CIG had to choose an engine to start with. Then the stretch goals blew up and they had to rewrite everything because Chris Roberts is an autistic perfectionist that has to have his thumb up every ones ass. So they could have chosen an engine that couldn't do what they wanted to do: CryEngine, an another engine that couldn't do what they wanted to do: Unreal 3, or make their own engine that would take 2 year of development to get it to the point where they would be in 2014 only today. Sometimes a bad decision is better than no decision.

>>157783081
Why a Refund?

>>157783267
Stop responding to the shitposter

>>157783250
frontier made their own engine for dangerous and still got it out on time

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>>157783081
>>157783081
>>157783081
Hi goon.

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>>157782176
???

?

!!!

>>157783376
what did he mean by this?

>>157783337
Their engine is not really all that impressive at all though.

>>157783568
.

>>157783568
he means that 12% of backers thought this should have been a small dogfighting arena game that would be released and long dead by now

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>>157783337
Yeah, they made the Engine in time but forgot to make the game itself.

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>>157783337
Elite was made by a different developer; with a different CEO, with a smaller budget and with a more limited scope.

Elite is barely talked about anymore, anywhere online. The game play is like a Nexon MMO; grindy and empty of content. Fans actually recommend having podcasts and netflix open while playing to help ward off boredom. It has failed as a game.

>But.. But... muh simulator

Fuck off, Dad.

>>157782926
best alien is still the xenomorph, by far

>>157783337
Frontier has had ED in the pipes for about a decade now. And you can't really say they got it out on time. Half the game is missing with features being sold constantly.

>>157783735
Oh hey, my screenshot

Kay so if I own the 55 Dollar Omega Mustang, and trade it for a 300 I and decided to go back to the Omega Mustang can I get it?

>>157784250
No.

>>157784250
if you own a $55, you can UPgrade for the price difference or 1 for 1 swap for the value

if you want to make a $100 ship into a $55 ship, you turn that $100 ship into store credit

any money you spend retains that value whether it's in the form of ships or store credit

>>157784106
No way they aren't going to put a spook alien in the game with how the wrecks are looking

https://youtu.be/ZNV-Y5hauZ0?t=1187

>>157784627
>dev team doubled since august

stay lightly salted goons

>>157784106 >>157784627
Aliens spooky spider is childplay for any developers

But we will wait forever until a dev or hollywood writer try to write a intelligent starfish alien with no face, or a species that evolved as sentient hydrogen ballon communicating with lights

Just look at that "documentary" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHzPEpHYtXQ

>>157784545
I figured that much, its just the omega is a limited edition variant that I got with my R290X last year.

>>157785318
>we know of hundreds of other planetary systems right now
>2014 is the year the terrestrial planetfinder may find evidence of up to FIVE HUNDRED earthlike planets somewhere
why are these guys talking so fucking small-time?

>>157785346
i don't believe store credits can be used for concept presales or used to pay for "part" of a large upgrade, dont take my word for it tho

>>157785895
Hmm thank you for the info, Now wether or not to buy the Cutlass Black, or the 300I, currently playing by myself but friends are thinking of getting the game once ships are buyable via in game credits.

>>157785895
Store credits can be used for anything as long as they don't disable it on purpose (like the Polaris pre-sale).
Apart from that, if you >>157785346 upgrade the Omega to something else you can't go back. Also, you can't rebuy the package if you melted it and I'm quite certain it has a melt value of $0 store credits anyway.

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>>157785318
>>157785882
>talking about the green band
>"a sweetspot astronomers call: The Goldilocks Zone"
who the fuck are these people? does anyone actually call it that?

>>157786306
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldilocks_principle

>>157786306
It's actually established terminology. I'm not sure who started it but I hate them.

>>157786057
cutlass is fun, 300 series is outclassed by just about any other fighter far as i know

cutlass (series?) also in the middle of a rework we have no details on so i'd maybe wait on that

>>157786306
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/02oct_goldilocks/

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>>157784103
>my personal opinion of the game has anything to do with the development time of key tech for it

>>157786630
Kay so maybe I'll wait for that. Just that I can dog fight in my Omega just dont have the fire power to do anything without sticking around for so long.

>>157784185
>RSI has millions and millions
>not enough money to start dev :^)

>fdev has nothing and is shitting out roller coaster tycoon sequels to stay afloat
>ED was being worked on for a decade before the KS :^)

>shittizens

>>157787101
you can do any of the missions with any ship, don't buy for the game as it in in the PU currently. figure it out at 3.0 when non-combat utility aspects of ships start to matter

>>157787962
I got the game for free with my AMD gift card, so the Omega was givin to me. I do plan on buying a Cutlass though. I did steal one in game and was flying it around for fun.

@157787245
Why yes, Frontier has been working on ED on and off for a long time before their kickstarter. Maybe if you weren't a shitposter that has come here to do nothing but shitpost you would know this.

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>>157787245
>>157787245
>>157787245
>>157787245
>>157787245
>>157787245
What does he mean by this?

>replying to yourself when nobody else will
#JustGoonThings

>>157788605
then why did they show concept art, prerenders and blocked out models early on? if they had so much already?

>>157788282
assuming theyre buffing it or flat out adding more utility (instead of just making it fit the new drake art style better) i'd say it's worth having right now. you wont have any issues having randoms lining up to man the turret, and it will have even more value in 3.0

>>157789973
they've had an engine they've been tinkering with to actually support exactly the game they were making since the 80s, an existing dev team and revenue coming in from their other projects, none of which CIG had. you seem to be failing to grasp the basic concept of time. Fdev had a team, CIG had to build one, and they went through a shitload of personnel before they had a solid team that works well together. a hundred million dollars (which they also didn't have until this year) can't just make that happen overnight.

>>157790336
the cobra engine isn't based on either the frontier or elite engines, why would it be? exactly 0% of the code applicable to early BBC micros and amigas is useful on modern wintel PC's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlzeBNep6Pw

>yfw 3.0 looks cooler than IRL

>>157785346
DO NOT CCU OR MELT YOUR OMEGA IT WILL BE GONE FOREVER.

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the fidelity is not at 100% until I can burn people by ejecting hot brass at them

>>157792586
Gettin dat groovin, Star Citizen style!
Havin a little dance, loving these beats!

>>157791841
wow such an obvious fish eye lens deep pool fakery that all scientists are in on

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/OVERDRIVE

Read the manifesto page and tell me what you think.

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>>157793618

Edgy/10

>>157793618
not anti-semitic enough, needs work/10

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>>157793618
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/STARVIXEN

>>157793864
>>157793869
The org is run by wtfosaurus not me.

>have to keep your ship in combat readiness at all times
>or pay a fine

I was going to join it as an affiliate but those rules are crap. He's saying on twitch that he will accept applications mentioning twitch but I don't think he even understands these rules because we don't have any org stuff right now and they are too strict.

>>157793618
>>157794337
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/DRACUL

[HARDCORE]

>We are the mist, We are the dark, We are the nightmares of man. The predators,
>From our altars of flesh We invoke chaos and flames. From our book of Shadows We control the elements.
>Since Ancient times we have been, Given the mark of the beast. Children of the Ancient Ones, We are the legions of doom, Lurkers in the abyss. That which is, unknown. We are the bandits of homage, Robbers of affections, Keepers of souls. We are the ones who dwell within. We are Dracul warriors

>>157794437
you think that's bad check these dipshits out https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/SUN
they have a big fat .pdf of rules you have to read through, you have to make regular 'reports' in the form of an actual written report, and there is a strict military hierarchy where the officers actually treat you like a boot. an org pal of mine tried to infiltrate them but after a couple months he got so fed up with their shit he lost it on his 'officer' and got kicked out.

>none of the comparison Images for the polaris hangar have a mustang in them.
>The mustang is tiny.
How many mustang deltas could you cram into a polaris?

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>>157794702

>>157795032
Three.

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>>157794540
>>We are the mist, We are the dark

dead

>>157796893
1 week of revival at the most @2.6 ptu

>>157797401
We'd have a better thread if it didn't have a handful of goons making it terrible.

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>>157793618

>2.Contact information is required for outside of game and need to respond appropriately to RL#. More on this as this gets fleshed out.

and

>4.When an RL# is announced you must be prepared to drop whatever you are doing to respond regardless of task you are in progress of.


Wow, look at these faggots.

>>157797757
Man, for my shit I just stole and copied some real life security contractor stuff. What a bunch of humongous asshats.

>>157793618
>HARDCORE

>>157795869
>likes: nine inch nails (band)
>dislikes: trent reznor
I don't believe blood_skull_boi84 is capable of irony, but this level of stupidity is also pretty unbelievable

>>157797567
I'm pretty sure CIG does that all by themselves, goons just point it out

>>157793618
>>157794337
>>157794540
Share more cringe.
I need to socially validate myself

>>157797567
well they bump the thread, cancer or otherwise

there's literally nothing to talk about aside from "New player here [question]" and questions people can get answered elsewhere in seconds

unless you want a thread of "I did ICC in x ship today and this happened" ">greentext meme story" anyone who actually knows the game or plays it is probably trying to keep SC as far away from their minds as possible til they announce something interesting or a patch drops.

>>157794540
>edgy as fuck satanic draconic shit
>stress-free safe space politically correct conduct only guys

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Kancolle citizen is a go

>>157798769
You aren't ready

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV6EWhMOy3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJyXzVD6yxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlsYBxDOn1Y

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>buy a game package 2 years ago that was on sale that included no ship
>regain interest because of 3.0 coming out soon, play around with the game just boarding other peoples ships.
>submit a ticket asking if I was missing anything from the 45 buck game package aside from a ship
>gm revokes my package and tells me to rebuy the game

>>157800726
Well complain again, you've got some kind of log right?
Although did you actually lose anything?

>>157800101
origin-chans are all clearly dirty asian underground racer sluts

>>157800852
Yeah I still have the chat log.
I lost my game package and access to playing it or any of the modules. I can't even sign into the launcher anymore.

>>157800101
Awww. An Origin ship seems like it would be more bitchy and uppity though

>>157801071
Did he give you store credit? It sounds like he's expecting you to use that to buy a new package.

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>>157785318
>>157782926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTNJtEXYsyw
Based on the short story Story of Your Life.

>>157801141
I didn't get more store credit and I don't want to buy a new package.
I had access to everything aside from 42, I assume they just don't want people playing the game for so cheap.

>>157801761
post logs
also I think its cause they merged SQ42/SC packages?

>>157801761
What the fuck

Could you post the qa guy's message when he took your stuff away?

>>157801761
> I assume they just don't want people playing the game for so cheap.

they have had game packages as low as 25 in the past sales

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>>157772583
>What ships do you own?
Dragonfly
Constellation Aquila
Gladius
F7C-M
Cutlass Black
Crucible

>What ship will you primary use?
Crucible with the Super Hornet in the bay. I'm hoping to get my hands on the F7A MkII kit for it though.
>What will you use it for?
The Crucible is for actual travel since the Hornet wont be able to get as far but the Hornet is for bounty hunting or general combat.
>How do you realistically plan to crew your ship? (Ai, friends, player "über" system or other)
AI crew mostly since i'm not using the Crucible for combat I don't need super precise actions.

>>157800726
Are you the guy who was posting before who didn't actually have a package, but just an arena commander pass, which ceased to exist so your account was in a weird state with no ship?

>>157802107

Do you even actually need a crew on the Crucible? I would not try and fight with it with a SH in the bay so you don't need the turret operators and I don't think you are required to have an engineer.

>>157801761
I got the game and SQ42 for 30 bucks though.

>>157802374
You need mechanics and engineers for bay repair jobs who, in combat, will not be repairing a ship in the bay. So they could double as turret operators. You also need a few people on the bridge at all times to oversee operations and keep an eye on sensors. Theoretically you could do that all yourself, but a single m50 needing repairs would take much longer than it should, let alone larger ships with more moving parts.

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>>157802374
Not him but travel should take some time, so being able to fly as you fix might be good.
Maybe a guy to scan for people in need of repair (distress beacons) if that's a thing.

>>157802107
own:
carrack
dragonfly
terrapin
argo cargo
aurora lx
archimedes
3x polaris
~875 RSI creds

want:

endeavor base
orion
hull e
idris
scythe
reclaimer

>>157802569

But this was for using it as a mobile SH base of operations with the ability to perform minor maintenance.

>>157802107

>What ship will you primary use?
Banu Merchantman
>What will you use it for?
I am going to be a space jew and buy and resell ships
>How do you realistically plan to crew your ship?
Imma buy a bunch of game packages and have all npcs

>>157802374
Of course i wouldn't try and fight with it while the SH is in the bay. As soon as the fighting is needed i'd jump in the SH and go fight. So the crew would come in handy for door operations and for keeping the Crucible at a safe distance and then opening the door when i return.

>>157802902
You still need at least a few people on board just to make sure that while you're fucking around in the Super Hornet you don't get either blown up or otherwise fucked with. Unless you like returning to empty space and burned out hulks of expensive starships.

>>157803130

Right but theoretically you would not need a crew on this particular ship if you were just using it as a hauler for a hornet.

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>>157801905
Sure.
It looks like they forced the pledge off my account, gave me no store credit for it and then made it so I can't buy back the pledge.

>>157803295
Like use that exact image, tell them you want what you bought given back. They wouldn't even have a reason to do this and any negative PR has to be something they're fucking wary of getting. Maybe he just fucked up massively?

I'm fucking baffled rn (right now)

>>157803278
If you were just using it as a glorified storage container then there's no point over a Hull series. The Crucible if for rearming and repairing fighters and larger ships without having to return to a station or use a larger vessel than you have the funds to own and operate. Sure It can be used as a storage crate, but that's a waste of good equipment and money. It's also ludicrously risky.

>>157803295
Send them back an e-mail, clearly the removal of the pledge wasn't supposed to happen until you melted it yourself. Sounds like some kind of a mistake.

>>157803295
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/account/buy-back-pledges

>>157772583
>own?
Aurora LN (becoming herald likely)
Hornet Ghost
Cutlass black

>want?
work my way up to a caterpillar, i dont see myself trying to micromanage anything larger while still having fun or going in debt

>use?
Caterpillar, hopefully in conjuction with herald in terms of storing and moving data.
scan shit with herald, beam it over to caterpillar filled with server/decryption rooms etc.

trying to embrace a specialization in everything scanning/intel/Ewar based but that's a long ways off and i'm definitely not spending money on unreleased ships that have no indication of having synergy between eachother in terms of data storage, transfering, etc.

>>157803295
This kinda makes sense. If you only owned a pass for the Hanger / Arena commander etc, you never actually bought the game. Come release, you weren't going to be able to play anyway. When they did away with passes, it looks like it flagged your account as able to play, but with no ship. Clearly you should atleast get store credit refunded for the passes you bought though.

>>157803706

I like the living space better in a Crucible. I mean I guess I could try and make like a Hull C a home but I would need to see in interior. Also I thought you had to take apart a Hornet to fit it into the storage boxes.

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2.6 leaks when REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>157772583
>What ships do you own?
Phoenix
Polaris
Cutlass Blue
>What ship will you primary use?
Probably Phoenix
>What will you use it for?
High value smuggling.

>>157805750
- u can shootbang better
- the ships r slower

>>157806101
ok, but for real the part that anyone cares about, how's the herald working?

>>157807028
It's literally just balance stuff. Pretty sure there's nothing new on the PTU yet.

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>>157772583
>What ships do you own?
Freelancer MIS, Dragonfly Black, and Buccaneer
>What ship will you primary use?
Probably MISlancer, though if it turns out crappier I'll CCU it to a Super Hornet and the Bucc to a base Freelancer
>What will you use it for?
Tramp freighter when the missiles and Dragonfly are unloaded, or as my general "fuck around checking out stuff in the game" ship when loaded up. I legit want to use it as a combat ship and have been practicing with the base Freelancer. Webm related what will probably be my fate.
>How do you realistically plan to crew your ship?
Probably solo it, maybe one NPC if the missile magazine needs an operator. Unless the turret get reworked to be useful, I'm just gonna leave it unmanned or replace it with a tractor beam/scanner.

>>157805750
I don't think it's even up yet, they're still; N the middle of adding people to the secret cool kids testing club in preparation. Last I heard they're still working on 2.5.1

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>>157803825
I said before I can't buy back the pledge.
>>157803937
I had access to AC18, Crusader, Arena Commander and I had the self hanger. I don't see what else the game package could have come with. It was only revoked whenever I brought it up.

I hope they just use the planets for setting, lore, and some scripted story missions with actual places to go

running around on empty planets doesn't sound fun to me tbqh

you'd need years of development to make base building and player owned stuff fun

>>157800101
Odds we can see a Gladius-chan? I want my waifu to be treated right.

>>157807531
When are they gonna release a proper game updating client

>>157808279
Since he said you were free to melt it, it seems like an error. Contact Customer Service again and let them know there was a fuck up and you'd like, at least, the store credits for the purchase. They should be willing to help.

>>157808279
>I don't see what else the game package could have come with

I don't want to sound rude, but maybe the game and a ship?

They got rid of passes because they lead to confusing situations like this (not your fault). They used to charge for access to certain functionality in alpha, even if you owned the game. As far as I can tell, you bought access to those alpha portions, without buying the game. They removed the pass system because it was stupid, but it means you're left in limbo as you never actually owned the game. You definitely should atleast get store credit for whatever you paid (I think they reimbursed people back when they removed passes, it was awhile ago).

Out of interest, could you play arena commander back when you bought the pass? Do you know what ship it put you in?

>>157802107
What Ship do I own, Atm Mustang Omega, Plan on going up to Cutlass Black, or Blue.

Primary Use - Cutlass cause my Mustang Sucks ass

What would I use it for? Militia version i'd use it to help pirates, Blue version, act like i'm stopping a person and confiscating their cargo and sell it to pirates.

Crew is going to be real players, just waiting till you can buy ships with In game currency.

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>>157772583
>What ships do you own?
It's easier to just... Pic related. I have a lot of ships.
>What ship will you primarily use?
Almost certainly a combination of the Hull-D or Starfarer and Cutlass. The Gemini is probably a better bet than the Hull due to the defensive capabilities of the ship, but the sheer haulage potential of the Hull makes it the most logical choice. Meanwhile, I'm pinning my hopes on the rework of the Cutlass to make it really worth flying as a militia-style multi-role ship. It really depends on what I'm wanting to do, but the Cutlass is the second best bang for the buck for doing almost everything there is to offer (the best for Multi-Role is the Avenger, of course, but I just have a bit of a crush on the Cutlass).
>What will you use it for?
The former two for mass-hauling if I feel like I'm missing the "engaging" gameplay of Elite: Dangerous. The latter one is for all the business an enterprising and "legitimate" mercenary could hope for.

The amount of ships I have really means I can custom tailor the ship to the job, which is going to be paramount to staying both in business and alive, but it doesn't mean I can't fall a bit in love with a few of them.

>>157808279
The pass doesn't serve any purpose anymore as it doesn't give access to SQ42 and Star Citizen when they come out. It was used to access the alpha, but they eventually let everyone in on it so it was phased out.

Check if you got reimbursed correctly and buy back at the basic price ($45 + $15 if you want both SQ42 and SC).

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>>157800220
I wasn't ready.

Is it going to be possible to pull Super Trooper stuff with the Cutlass Blue?

>>157809483
That doesnt add to 6k? it is barely 4k

>>157810591
Physical merchandise, subscriptions, gifted ships, and melted ships still count toward the total.

>>157810872
how much was the vice admiral pack when it was on sale?

>>157811076
$500 USD when I picked it up. It's worth more than that with the Phoenix attached, I think, not to mention all the physical items that come with it. It will stay with me until the game is no more.

>>157764726

>Using Endeavor-related material for the general OP pic

God bless you, Anon.

>>157772583
Ships Owned: AEGS Gladius, RSI Aurora MR

I plan to trick out my Gladius primarily and go full-time space-fighter jockey.

I plan on taking my girl on dates throughout the galaxy, running private security and escort. Of course, a joyride or two isn't out of the cards, but I really get my jollies shooting outlaws, so that's the focus. I dislike piracy, so I'll probably avoid doing that kind of shenanigans if I can manage.

One-seater makes this a null question, but I plan on hopping on with other crews when work dictates.

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I own a Polaris and a Super Hornet how much of a faggot am I?

>>157765283

This. A year and a half ago, E:D shitters were raiding our board just to give us the "le scam" bullshit. Now that they see the underlying engine work to the game, they're starting to see the light. They are also realizing Braben is a hack.

>>157765948

Remember when Braben made you pay for the game twice to get less than half of the features you were promised?

>>157765715

Rack

Goons!!!!!!!!!

>>157811973

*Ba-dum-psh*

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>>157811873
The Polaris doesn't make you a faggot. The Super Hornet, however, does.

>>157812176
>>157811873
A real man dogfights in a Delta.

>>157811873

Not really that much of a faggot. Armor is always better than shields if you have a place to repair your ship. If the SH has a place to repair at all times, the Sabre loses.

That's actually a decent combo, anon.

And thank you for helping support our game with that much funding. No sarcasm.

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>>157812239
Overwhelming victory or utter obliteration. There's no other way.

>>157766004
Less small ships, pick a daily driver you like and stick with that. You can just buy another one in the game if you want it. Consolidate to big ships, they're where the fun and money making lies imo

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So whats the latest news on Smart? He hasnt blogged for almost a couple months. Did he really get evicted (or get the 90-day eviction notice)?

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>>157812571
Still shitposting on twitter and not releasing his game

Super Hornet
Polaris
Carrack
Merchantman
Phoenix that is almost certainly getting swapped for something else
$200 of store credit

What do I do with the Phoenix in November, lads? Super Hornet I don't really like myself but it's just a sensible ship to own

>>157813359
is it lti?

>>157813796
>>157813796
They all LTI, I have non-meme Autism so it's obviously fucking necessary to me.

I have a Dragonfly too, forgot about that shit.

>>157813359
maybe get some ships that will actually be ingame for 3.0?

>>157813963
>Super Hornet
>Constellation

>>157812456
I see so many faggots with bullshit small newbie ships, when they could own end game ships now by consolidating.

>>157814035
ok, some ships that will be new for 3.0 or be able to take advantage of new gameplay options

dont get snippy with me, mr. $2,000 in ships you wont see for 6 months, you asked the question

>>157813924
sell it on the gray market
lti phoenix is like 400 usd minus 3% paypal fee is still around $28 profit. you trade for rsi instead then you could probably get like $450 worth of rsi but only use a reputable trader

>>157814241
6 months feels like the blink of an eye relative to how long I've had most of these desu

>>157814116
alot of people don't want to throw another couple hundred bucks into the game to boost our bank accounts on day 1 so we can actually use those ships

also alot of people don't wanna be "that guy" who shows up day 1 in an idris and is spending 99% of his time maintaining his crew and fleet instead of playing the game

honestly i feel like playing the game, what's the fucking point in having absolutely nothing to work towards?

>>157814535
>what's the fucking point in having absolutely nothing to work towards?

thats not going to happen unless u buy the completionist and all the extra ships not included in the package

>>157814116
But they're all multicrew

I have a Connie, a Buccy and a dragonfly

>>157814668
so your endgame is buying all the smaller, less profitable ships?