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This general is for discussing new and upcoming MMOs, or MMOs with populations that are too small to sustain their own generals.

>Recommendations
http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu

>Game databases
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/

>Unlocalized MMOs
http://pastebin.com/uZyHtnDD

>Popular upcoming MMOs
Bless: http://bless.aeriagames.com/
Revelation Online: https://ro.my.com/en
Dark and Light: http://www.playdnl.com/
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/revog/ please go
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Revpasta.

>FAQ - READ BEFORE POSTING! Seriously, this baby has everything you need to know about the game.
http://pastebin.com/SWMZbSgY

>Steam Group
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RevelationOnlineGeneral
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Is Camelot Unchained ever going to go into beta or is it vaporware?
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make your own general revofags
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>>157715050
Both this dead and /revg/ would die. That's pointless.

There will be one when the CBT comes, don't worry.
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>>157715164
>chung being gay
i like it
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>>157714739
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>>157715261
As long as you are a good leader I don't give a fuck about your genitals
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>>157715279
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>>157715261
just don't tell everyone you're a girl
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>>157715649
Not announcing it everywhere all the time you mean? Because keeping it a secret is pretty stupid
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This general is garbage now, wish you would all kill yourselves. Bye.
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>>157715261
I highly doubt you will beat me to making the guild but you can try. And the fact that you're attention whoring right now via your gender motivates me to stop that from being close to happening.
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Xth for fuck Kyopee
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>>157715824
see you tomorrow
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>>157715762
yeah, don't go throwing it around willy nilly, but if you get asked there's no reason not to say you aren't.
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>>157715882
>>157715261
are we really going to fight over who's creating the guild
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>>157716227
>are we really going to fight over who's creating the guild
Who is fighting?
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I WANT TO MATING PRESS COURANTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So who's gonna be my PVP and Ganking battle-waifu?
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>>157716407
me
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>>157716403
Currently doing that, you jelly?
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>>157716332
>i wanna make the guild
>no im gonna make the guild
this happens every time and we always get left with 5 tiny guilds
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>>157716227
Buy the Founder Pack and create your own with with blackjack and (no) hookers. Then buy two more for the ability to jump ship. ez
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>>157715036
I want Chronicles of Elyria myself. What I saw of Camelot Unchained didn't look very appealing.
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First time in /mmo/, is swtor worth playing? Is the F2P system any good. Was thinking of giving that or Wildstar a go.
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>>157716508
id run it if i knew anything about the game
im a good equal opportunity literal who guild leader
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>>157716745
>>157716745
F2p is more viable after you get some things with shekels that you normally have while subbed but beyond that it's alright
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>>157716745
>swtor
>wildstar
do you have a thing for dead games?
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>>157716473
Wanting doesn't mean they ARE making the guild. It just mean that they are open to making the guild. However I already confirmed that I'm your guild leader come CBT/OBT to avoid cancer from other generals fucking it up for the people who actually want to play the game rather than sit around and start drama.
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>>157717339
literally who are you?

>>157716519
the biggest thing that kept me from camelot unchained was it's 15/mo price tag. that shit doesn't fly for indie styled mmo's 5 bucks a month at best
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Can we at the very least if there are multiple smaller guilds all be in the same alliance this time instead of just floundering about as a bunch of shitty irrelevant splinters without the numbers to do anything cool
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>>157717339
I don't know, you're sounding pretty cancerous already
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>>157716903
Completely dead? I thought perhaps the F2P system would have brought in more players. No one here even play them?
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>>157717339
You'll just end up kicking everyone out, people will leave because of how easily you'll kick people out, and then you'll be alone. Except for that one who'll always be on your side, your bro, and it turns out he was an ERPer all along and now you're gay
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>>157717950
Wilds tar is kind of on lifesupport. Tor, there used to be a thread but it probably died a quiet death or got turned into a general swg thread
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>>157717698
I'm the normie that's going to turn an bunch of faggots into an elite squad of handsome men and beautiful women minus the gay shit. We accept gays but we will not put up with your drama, thus the instant kick rule. As I said before, you might as well make your own guild for that type of cancer you enjoy so much. The only drama here will be PvP related. I don't care about ERP, I don't care about your gay relationship, as long as you abide by my rules we're cool.

>>157717917
Then join another guild faggot.
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>>157716407
>>157716403
>>157715890
>>157715261
>/revog/ hasn't even been created yet and we're already getting this shit
Alright nope fuck this I'm out. So much for being in a normal /vg/ guild. Enjoy your cesspool.
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>>157716465
What class would be a fun pairing? Thinking of rolling a gunner because I like cowboys. But blademaster or swordmage sounds fun too
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>>157718325
you too
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>>157718325
what exactly were you expecting from a 4chan guild? genuinely curious
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>>157718301
You're funny, anon.
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>>157717791
I agree anon, we should make an alliance even if we end up in different clans
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http://2p.com/45336151_1/Peria-Chronicles-Introduces-A-New-Species-Western-Sever-Confirmed-by-shaylynsun.htm
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>>157718301
you seem pretty power hungry friend
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>>157718301
You won't succeed
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>>157718301

>normie

Into the trash

Normies can never truly succeed at MMOS, they don't have the time required to be the best. I'm gonna fly past you and your shit normie guild ez since I don't need to go work for the jews

RevO all day every day sons, brb top of the leaderboards as is tradition, another MMO victory incoming. These games are a joke for neets like me, norms can't compete
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>>157718628
You won't either pansy
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>>157718578
what is peria chronicles?
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I still think it's funny how people think that their "suggestions" on the revo forum would ever be considered by the devs.
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>>157718718
They are on the Chinese forums. English forums though? Heh, good luck.
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>>157718650
>neets being better than normies when normies can spend thousands in cash shop
lmaoooo
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>>157718797
Yeah, meant the english forums.
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>>157718301
Are you the owner of the Steam group? If so I think I'll stick around.
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>>157718697
New FOTM that will get a massive amount of hype over.

It's feature is that it's gonna be more chill and kinda social oriented I believe over the traditional grind,kill, loot game play cycle. One of the features is that you use monsters to fight for you like pokemon instead of fighting yourself. Another feature is the ability to create villages with other players and using a scripting feature to make player created quests which is a big feature of the game.
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>>157718301
Anon how can we contact you?
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Remember that for every tryhard guild is a Leeroy that fucks up at the most important moment or someone that would put a w(r)ench in their plans.
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>>157719130
good, makes for good memories
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Don't listen to the fags in this thread my guild will be the best

Top memes and banter
High concentration of Leafs and Aussies
Sick elite PvP all day WITH gay ERP allowed
Extremely talented elite gamers with decades of experience in buying founders packs

Bend the knee and kiss the ring you fucking queers
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I just want a guild were status isnt a fucking thing
cant we all just be shitty members of a shitty guild and not worry about who's "more important"
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>>157719945
no
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>>157719945
There needs to be a leader though
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Does revelation have any tree related headgears/masks/accessories?

I wanna be a tree.
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Help me fix my sleepy ojousama with drills. I feel like there's something wrong with her face.
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>>157720078
I think you did good.
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>>157720078
The light is making her eyes seem off
Also she looks a bit cross-eyes in the left pic

Other than that is fine
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>>157720078
the golden eye shadow/eye color makes it look weird
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>>157720078
Increase the eye size and change the pupils.
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>faggots from /terag/, /xivg/, and /bnsg/ are all going to infest /revog/
I give it 15 days before someone dies.
All that autism in one place is going to create a singularity the likes of which we've never seen before.
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>>157720026
theres a difference between someone being a guild leader and someone being a power hungry sperg lord who makes sure everybody in beneath him like that guy posting here
plus im talking about cliques, theres always a circle of friends in these guilds that given priority over everyone else and it just ends up killing the guild
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>>157719945
No, guilds are just high school 2.0
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>>157720078
Not good enough.
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What does this do?
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>>157720589
sells for 8s50c
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>>157720589
ups phys, mag, and I think fd
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>>157720345
But if I increase the eye size she'll lose that sleepy look.

>>157720261
What colors would you suggest?

>>157720254
Not sure how to fix the cross eye maybe it's just pose, she keeps moving and changing facial expression in the creation screen, I'll see if there's a setting for pupil angle.

>>157720530
I-I'm trying.
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>>157720470

>guilds with ERPers are just high school 2.0

Fixt
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>new MMO about to launch
>literal dozens of power hungry autists and cryptonormies begin crawling out of the woodwork
I fucking hate you people
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>>157720589
Atk 1.5k
Matk 1.5k
Final Damage 159
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>>157720756
cryptonormies?
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*gurts*
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>>157718480
I'm glad you're entertained.

>>157718583
As I said, I've never been a guild leader manly because I like to freelance and do my own shit. I have every requirement needed to be a Guild Leader. Right now I'm coming off as a bit extreme, but trust me I'm pretty chill. It's just that if I'm going to take this serious than I will need to put a stop to the cancer that travels general to general with the same goal as last time. I've seen it all more than once. After attempting to join multiple /vg/ guilds and watching them all turn into complete shit I see that only way a /vg/ guild can be even remotely competent is to make one myself push the guild to focus on gameplay rather than who has the best boy pussy. An example of what I'm trying not to be is /terag/. Go in that general and it's just "POST BUTTS".

>>157718628
I'll get farther than you every will.

>>157718650
See you come CBT.

>>157718976
No, but I'm in the group. And if he has a problem with me making the guild tell him I said he can hold that L.

>>157719064
I'll give you my info before CBT starts. Two days ahead of time.
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>>157720756
>cryptonormies
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JHELP
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Is it always like this when a new mmo comes out?
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>>157721129
Not really, you're forgetting that it's catering to the worst type of people that skulk in mmos
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>>157720973
Bartok?
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>>157720973
you remind me of me when i lead a wpsg guild
i trust you but youre going about this too aggressively, just make a steam group or something and say "this is the guild" and leave it at that like its already decided
i can tell you now that trying to win people over on this site is something you dont ever try to do ever forever, it doesnt work. also dont make people mad or argue just tell them this is whats what and leave it at that
let people sperg at each other, just dont become the sperg yourself or everything falls apart
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>>157720973
Your first post was nice but with each post you keep making it all becomes just cringeworthy, stop.
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What do you guys think of project genom? Typical Russian scam?
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>>157721546
Yes, now stop asking every other thread
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>>157721645
You didn't give any reasoning. Stop trolling. Serious answers only.
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Fuck I want to try the chinese version for the character creator but doing the chinese phone shit is too confusing
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>>157721354
>i trust you but youre going about this too aggressively
So what should I do, give the cancer a chance? Because everyone deserves a second chance, right? That's all it takes and then it's over.
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So RevO is completely quest based right?

Is there no place at the highest levels where I can just autistically kill thousands of monsters and reasonably good exp?
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>>157722396
if you get triggered at all the guilds done, thats all im saying
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>>157722396
Feel free to kick/ban cancermancers but don't give into the bait yourself. Let us have our bantz with eachother but don't let the bantz turn into rampant memeposting
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'Sup niggas
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>>157722376
get in the marriage sack
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>PK
this gon be fun
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>>157722917
This
Theres a difference between between actual harmful cancer and 4chan autist memeing
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>>157722797
I wont tear down what I'm trying to build so easy. I'm not like that.

>>157722917
Oh of course. I know the difference!
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Project Genom is fucking great. Why aren't you all playing?
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>>157720634
>>157720661
>>157720770
Thanks.
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>>157723530
I'll play it when the game isn't fucking stiff as shit and has rubber banding issues worse than firefall
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Mabifags go and stay go
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>>157723950
It's Russian. Cut it some slack. It's the best mmo ever.
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>>157723530
The thread is 10 anime mmo fags and a bunch of migrants at the moment. You could try to shill it with cute screenshots if it's worth it.
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>>157723530
this game looks like an even worse firefall
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>>157724190
hey you asked why I wasn't playing it. that's why. I want something smooth to play, not something that makes me feel like I'm playing ARK: Optimization devolved, again
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>>157724418
Anime looks like an even worse cartoon
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>>157725338
you take that back
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>>157718301
Mudkip is that you?
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Good night, /mmog/. I love you!
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>>157727296
obaio
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https://ro.my.com/forum/thread/16941-revelation-development-team-weekly-q-a-section-10-17-16/
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>31 posters
>one is me
Just let this stupid shit die faggots
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>>157728306
I'm not sure what you're smoking or injecting into your body but you should quit.
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GUYS QUICK I NEED A NOT-SHIT MMO TO PLAY
AND IT NEEDS TO HAVE A GOOD PING FROM AUSTRALIA
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>>157728448
Ebin
>>>/out/
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>>157728689
k
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>>157728520
wow
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>>157728520
number munchers
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I bought the Rev founder pack. how badly did I just fuck up?
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Rev-O quiestion!

Is there a better version or translations of the ability tree for class skills?

The best I have is: https://revelationonline.su/calc/
Which is in russian which I don't speak and have to use google which gives me weird as fuck translations.

For instance:
Blademaster - warrior Tactics
Extra effects:
As a staunch defender of HP recovery increases by 20%
The Defender of the rack at a successful lock strike every 30 seconds. Increases defense by 5% for 35 seconds.
As a staunch defender of a critical blow to the enemy recovers HP 5% of maximum health, triggers every 10 seconds.

Ok so obviously you can spec this skill to be some kind of self heal + defense buff. But the wording itself makes specifics hard to figure out.

Trying to decide between Blademaster / Vanguard.
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>>157723530
>early access
>ever
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>>157729527
About 59.99.
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If anyone on Alexina has Shock pages they want to give me I'd appreciate it.
Or give me a price so I can start saving up.
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so are there any guides / videos about revo that i should really watch or is it fine to just go in blind
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>>157729654
>hating progress
>the current year
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>>157729825
Skill training seals can be used on novice rank skills and I think are cheaper than 10 pages + 10 expiration removals.
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>>157729925
go in blind until lvl 30 then looking for a guide on Exorcism
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>>157729726
I got the 17 dollar one
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>>157730183
Then you fucked up about that much.
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>>157729925
I'm going in blind for the first half of closed beta, will look at guides during the second half of it.
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>>157730161
470 seals though. I already have 170 seals so the removal scrolls aren't a problem. Plus I already have pages 1-4, 10.
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What's with asian mmos and peeking at naked women in lakes?
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>>157729648
Go vanguard and become my pet for lewd head rubbing.
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>>157730372
They're targeted at hormonal teenage boys and not trying to hide it.
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>>157730604
But I don't go around peeking at naked women taking bathes, I walk in and ask if I can wash their back and sit in their lap.
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>>157730753
But how can you wash their back while sitting in their lap?
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>>157730827
You sit in their lap after you washed their back dummy.
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>>157720078
when does she get BLACKED
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>>157728520
>Australia
>Good ping

lol.
you're options are to move to USA or move to Europe
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>>157730924
Well I'm planning on making her a vanguard so whenever someone makes a nigger spirit shaper, she can get blacked then and there.
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so around what level in dragon nest can my priest start healing people? im level 25 or 26 now and ive still been soloing dungeons, 1 shotting everything with the cosmetic gear given to me at level 1 or whatever. when does the 1 shotting stuff end?
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Anyone here play planetside?
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>n
o
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Anyone here interested in starting with me on Nasomi FFXI?
Alternatively I need an MMORPG like XI (no, not XIV)
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>>157732492
i used to play it, stopped when SOE was sold/renamed to daybreak and bought out by that russian thing or whatever. game has a serious hacker problem now. like a real big one, youll run into a hacker fairly often now and its not fun getting insta killed 200 miles away as soon as you exit cover.
still, its a pretty solid game and its free so you might as well check it out if thats what youre wondering. the playerbase is low though, and dwindling
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>>157732392
It might seem like a pain, but getting to the actual content of DN requires you to get to 90-93.
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wow i really cant wait to get my loli asspussy filled up with semen over and over in the video game Revelation Online
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>>157733083
its just solo all the way till 90 then?
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>>157733210
You could ask people to run low level stuff with you if that helps the grind, but I normally shell out the $3 for the 200% exp scroll so I can get to cap as quickly as possible on a new character.
Make sure you're running your Daredevil Faire for super quick exp.
Also, http://lagendia.tumblr.com/post/110427099547/dragon-nest-leveling-guide-from-level-1-to-80 is a list of the EXP bonus you get on different channels, but I'm not sure if it's still accurate.
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>>157733486
>$3 for the 200% exp scroll
Wow, that's a thing? Fucking bullshit.
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>>157733486
thanks for the info. what about 1 shotting mobs and stuff? i got a cosmetic set a level 1 and it made my attacks 1 shot everything and gave me a ton of hp. am i gonna continue 1 shotting stuff all the way to 90 or does it even out eventually?
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>>157733785
Not until 90+
The game was made easy so people can get to the end faster.
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>>157733882
was it always like this? makes me wonder if it would be better to start at level 90 and simply get a tutorial on your class. but i guess youd miss out on all the quests and story/lore
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>>157733486
Global Server
>50% exp bonus per max level char
>$3 for 200% exp scroll

SEA Server
>5% exp bonus per max lvl char
>$15 for 200% exp scroll
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>>157733785
Definitely not. You're really going to really feel doing abyss Twisted Zone for the first time. Especially nests, which are complete bullshit if you don't spend the time looking up/practicing the boss's attack patterns and mechanics. There's also this solo dungeon Dark Banquet that has you fight 4 clones of the original 4 classes' final jobs that kill you in about 2-5 hits depending on how geared you are.
>>157733615
Yeah, I only recommend it now because there's basically no point doing 1-90 stuff. Previously, you could do abyss dungeons in those levels and that was the coolest shit. The difficulty was just hard enough that it made you feel alive.
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>>157733958

The game used to have difficulty levels and Normal/Master were harder than what they are now. There used to be Nests every 10 levels.

All the content was moved to level 90 and 93 because the vast majority of players skipped them anyways.

It's shit, and it costs nothing to have them open. People complained but nothing changed.

At least you can get to level 90 in a couple of days but it fucked over quest leveling.
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>>157734027
>There's also this solo dungeon Dark Banquet that has you fight 4 clones of the original 4 classes' final jobs that kill you in about 2-5 hits depending on how geared you are.
>depending on how geared you are.

Isn't this an equalized dungeon?
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>>157734414
Ah, I guess so. I wasn't paying attention to that while I was doing it.
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>>157729648
Yes, there is.
http://nogaruka.net/revelationonline/blade_calculator.html
Was made by retards and can fuck up in actual browsers, so open it in IE.
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Do you listen to the game's music or listen to your own?
I mute Mabinogi and listen to this OST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjubxiDRI0Y
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>tfw no one wants a vanguard waifu for the revo cbt
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Ranking up Crash Shot is boring as hell. Though I'm glad the Archery Talent isn't too bad getting to Expert.
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>>157736281
Man, I still need to rank up a bunch of skills to expert. It's not fun.
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>tfw no key to seek and destroy loli and healer players in cbt
Ha-have fun killing degenerates without me...
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>>157736140
When I grind, I mute game music and play ToS OST.
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>>157736309
I am not looking forward to Alchemy, Dual Gun, Holy Arts, Ninja, and Puppetry.
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>>157736312
Finally, good news toda!
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>>157736221
I'd waifu you but I am a dps and have no key.
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>>157736598
I'm still stuck doing life talents. I'm just afk fishing right now because this game is starting to bore me and everything is feeling like a chore.
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>>157736598
Alchemy is awesome but gives almost no stats, puppetry is easy and gives good stats, holy arts is for fags and ninja/dual gun are a pain to rank but gives awesome stats.
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>>157736735
No one was talking to you, he was talking to me. Fuck off.
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>>157736697
:( I would protect you from mobs anon, get the cheapest founders pack and play with me ;_; you can ride on my giant black cat mount...
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>>157736704
You probably got tired running those Sagas. I haven't done one run yet.
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>>157736969
You should do it earlier. I had trouble at total level 500 and had to kept playing dead.
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>>157730827
You can wash a back just fine from this position
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>>157730372
>>157730604
>>157730753
>>157730827
>>157737068
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Am I missing something? What is so great about Revo?

Looks like every other MMO
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>>157736140
Turning off in game music is one of the first things I do on everything
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>>157737246
Can I have that youtube CSS senpai?
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>>157736221
>>157736913
how is the beta? i was thinking of picking up the $20 pack and rolling a healer
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>>157737174
It's a new game. Doesn't have to be good
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>>157737286
I just use Stylish extension
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>>157737387
It hasn't started yet! It begins on the 25th of this month, so soon :)!
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>>157737626
...with what CSS?
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in revelations online, can occultist be a full healer if specced fully for heals? or is spirit shaper the only real healer?
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>>157737728
serstyles.org/styles/129079/youtube-night-dark-theme-larger-player
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>>157738087
Occ heals are a joke. Light stance spells can be used for some nice utility tho.
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>>157738097
thanks senpai
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>>157738156
so just spirit shaper for heals then?
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>>157738262
Yes, that is correct. Yhe only one time when Occ can be actually viable as healer is the moment when he uses Life Incarnate, but even that is mediocre compared to Spirit Shaper.
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>>157738367
thanks for the info. was hoping for at least 2 types of healer classes. i guess there will not be much variety with healers.
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Anyone play DDO? I want to play it but unlocking content without paying sounds like a grind.
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Specific question - what is the most polished but not necessarily best mmorpg that is at least semi-alive? By polished I mean that it isnt too sprawling, the ends are tied and progression is intuitive. An example would be gw2, while the exact opposite would be black desert or archeage. That type of games pleases my autism because I can completely grasp every aspect of the game and none of them lead nowhere.
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>>157738419
mfw trying to look forward to a game where healers won't really exist
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Why is dragon nest such a big thing when vindictus has all of it and much more gameplay depth minus the cuteness?
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>>157738589
Spirit Shapers will have easy time getting party.
You will need them for dungeons and pvp.

As for Occultists, I hope that there will be gear enabling them as healers.

>>157738647
Character diversity. I find the character planning and building half of the fun.
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>>157738589
the spirit shaper looks neat, and i will definitely play it, i was just hoping for more types of the same role. tera for instance had two different kinds of healers that played way differently and it was pretty cool. ff14 also had two types of healing classes that played differently(maybe more now?).
i guess its not necessary to have in an mmo, but it adds variety and thats always a good thing.
>>157738647
i think vindictus is deader than DN, not sure though. i also read vindictus has worse grind/worse pay2win aspects
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>>157738647

Nexon management
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so how has revelation online reception been so far? besides 4chan, is it released in china already? do they like it? is there any kinda consensus about the game? im still trying to decide if i should pick up a founder pack. it does look fun but most MMOs do.
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>>157738521
Anyone?
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>>157738723
I loved the Scholar in FF14 so much. A warlock and healer in one. But the nonexistent PvP completely killed the game for me
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>>157738647
big thing where?
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>>157739601
Nothing that you don't already know about
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>>157738521
Rising Force
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>>157739715
Being a big thing in MMOs is being the target of plagiarism by other games.

If other games start copying a particular MMO, then that MMO should be doing something right.
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>>157739939
Look at dat player count on Paladins.
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How are Ruina and Defensio in pvp? How badly are tanks/healers needed ATM?
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>>157739949
by whom exactly?
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>>157740013
Yeah I didn't know they really had their shit together
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>>157739939
I haven't heard or seen anything TF2 related in years. Thought it was completely ded.
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I finally purchased the hairstyle I wanted, I'm so happy.

Rate my character.
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>>157736779
Too bad, note each other ingame like fags if you dont want anyone else to reply.
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>>157739560
anyone? how about personal opinions then? just another mmo? above average? anything
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>>157739898
Mang, they make new fresh server with events every few months and then merge it with old one. I come to play fresh with mah buddies every now and then.

I'm talking about official ofc.
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>>157740941
What the hell is that thing in the background? It reminds me of manus
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>>157741324
On the right? it's a manticore.
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more dissapointment notes

>Critical Trait – Critical Trait changed from 100% Ignore Defense ⇒ 50% Ignore(25% in PvP).
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>>157740941
8/10 i like the costume.
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>>157739805
I do not know about many things, trust me. Throw me some examples.
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When Rev CBT Hits and the slider wars begin, where do we go to ask everyone "Does this character look good?"

I imagine it probably wouldn't be here.
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>>157719945
I agree, I want something akin to classic NFA.

>>157720463
The problem is that the people who become guild leaders are really the only people who are thinking "OH BOY CAN'T WAIT TO BE A POWER-HUNGRY SPERG".
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>>157739939
good old counter strike still top 20
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>>157742024
>asking if your character looks good
all that matters is that you like your character
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>>157742498
No that's not enough, everyone must like my character too.
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>>157741658
>all those nerfs

damn
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>>157742572
I will never like your character
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>>157742818
You'll love me one day, I'll make you love me.
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>>157742572
anon ... you might be an attention whore
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>>157742850
Sorry, baby, I only have eyes for one person.
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>>157742572
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Looking for alpha male healer to play with.
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>>157744381
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>>157744381
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>>157741658
>Ejection Buster nerfed
Come on now.

>BM's divekick hitbox fixed
Thank fuck. Won't stop people from doing it though.
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>>157738589
This.
Healing draws out fights into resource based endurance battles or simple level/gear checks.
Healers are so dominant in trinity based games that they become the primary target in pvp 100% of the time.
However to move away from the trinity developers actually need to make good AI and environments which takes too much work
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Healers were a mistake
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>>157720078
>that thigh clipping
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>Vindictus General finally died

Thank god. Those cucks just couldn't let go.
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>>157746713
>>157746860

Making healing a thing was a mistake. it's like first Anon said. Instead of actively healing for whole fight, a healer should just throw two heals durning encounter and that's all.
Making a class called [healer] was a mistake, there should be just melee with support spell or two (cleric) or caster with some healing spells(priest/druid).

When Ragnarok online was in early stages, there was trinity, but it was standard rpg trinity, warrior, mage and thief. Cleric was added later.
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>>157747901
You don't like thigh jobs?
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>>157747993
I'll never let go
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>>157748029
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>>157749268
Trap healers best healers.
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>>157746713
>>157748029
Aren't healers a thing due to the combat system not being an action-based one where you can't actually evade attacks through action, only through stats? Yes, I am a newfag when it comes to MMOs
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>>157748651
Not if they break the rules of spacetime
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>>157749552
That's not a trap though. The mind was of a male, but at that point in the story, almost every person that went through that has pretty much changed into what their character was. So female.
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>>157750084
anime everyone
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>>157749906
DN still has two or three healer classes: the Light Fury, the Saint and the (severely gutted) Physician. But anyway, heals aren't the only thing support classes give.
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>>157749906
Most rpgs dont have dedicated healing roles, only mmos because they all.copied everquest
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>>157750084
doesn't change the fact he was the top heal slut
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>>157750362
Everquest copied WoW
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>>157749906
You can mitigate damage with enough evasion, armor or spells. You can interrupt enemies, disarm them, blind, confuse, slow etc all that to make them unable to attack. Active healing is just lazy way to do things.

If you just want to see how it should work but are scared of dated graphix, install Pillars of Eternity and play for few quests. The game is not that good but should give you general idea on how it can be done with disabling and such.

>>157750249
>heals aren't the only thing support classes give.
Yes this is it! Supporting classes should not be reduced to healslaves. There should be more buffing AND debuffing.
In ArcheAge there was this Vitality/Witchcraft/Auramancy build, great healing and insane CC from witchcraft, sleep, fear, remove buff/debuff etc. Damn great utility.
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>>157750505
>He wants entire games based off of RNG and against healers
>Plays AA
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>>157750785
Yea fuck me for trying every new MMO that comes out.
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>>157750069
Is this better?
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>>157751263
The legs are a bit too long
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>>157751263
Don't listen to >>157751351 he's trying to turn you into a ugly sjw human being
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>>157751526
I'm not the one that vouched to make her less thicc though she seriously looks like a noodle with how long she is
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>>157751263
Long legs master race
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>>157751263
Sort of? Try a photo ingame and post
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post more characters please
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>>157751263
I had legs like that and had to adjust them because they were WAY TOO LONG. I think you can make your legs more proportionate while still being tall by adjusting your leg sliders and then raising your overall height, if you don't want to be short.
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>>157752712
I still feel like they're a bit too long, but I can live with this.
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>>157752681

Why?
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>>157752712
My height slider is maxed.

>>157751892
Can't pose for the life of me.
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>>157752835
I like looking at them
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>>157752952
Use the little camera thing at the upper left of your screen. It puts you in a screenshot mode that allows you to pose and even use silly filters.
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>>157753004

I don't think you really do.
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>>157752952
damn it forgot image
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>>157753072
Is he really tall or is she really small?
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>>157751263
Jack skellington/10
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Are there cute costumes on RevO?

TFW wanted to spend last week of waiting for revo playing ToP2, but IGG shut it down, PKO wants FB for registration, fuck them.
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>>157753178
N-no bully.
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>>157753075
would fug
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>>157753187
Tons
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>>157753075
I think you need to adjust shoulder width so they aren't wider than your hips. Everything else looks good or is subjective.
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>>157753695
Most women have hip width around or slightly less than their shoulder width
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>>157753695
Dude, fit gurls are hot too.
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>>157753174

Yes.
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>>157753996
ayy lmao
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>>157753996
want to be my personal onahole ?
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>>157754112

That's not my character.
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>>157753072
how do the social emotes like kissing look with these two?

>>157753996
>you can marry that
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>>157753996
Is it true you can princess-carry in that game?
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>>157754556
oh boy thats only the start
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>>157754556

And more.
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>tfw applied to a normie guild
i-i sure hope they accept me
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>>157753996
>loli
PURGE!
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Kero kero!
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>>157754717
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>>157754717
Holy shit! Post more!
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Still love this mount. I can't find the new dragon mount anywhere, but I assume it's good because it's won from the big RvR tournament.
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http://hd.tianyu.163.com/2016/party?from=banner

Nice.
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>>157755075
There's a new dragon mount?
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>>157753075
Hey, that's the standing pose I used for Skyrim.
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>>157754657
>>
>Checking out system requirements for some of these games
>Realize my computer is slowly falling into the toaster category
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>>157756109
Just compress the textures 4 or 8 times. That's how i play skyrim.
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>>157755470
Yeah, it looks like an oriental dragon. It was on the main page for a while.
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what is the highest skill cap class in revo?
I want to outskill people in pvp
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>>157756641
Pick Occ, it's a gimmicky class.
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>>157756641
the wallet class
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>>157755470
Here we go. Found it again!

http://tianyu.163.com/2016/empirewar/mounts.html
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>>157756940
http://tianyu.163.com/2016/empirewar/index.html has more information on the massive RvR to get it.
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>>157757035
>information

If you decipher it first.
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Is there a costume gallery thing where I can just preview all the class outfits?

I want to pick the most aesthetic class
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>>157757535
The free class outfits are the ones you see during character creation. For gear, you can run up to a gear vendor and use either Ctrl or Shift (I forget which) to view what it looks like on your character.
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so if revo cbt ends november 13 then when the fuck is it releasing?

I don't want to burn myself out before the game even comes out but I'm bored
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>>157758942
9th, it ends on the 9th. Level cap is 49.
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give me one worst f2p than pic related

Protip: you cannot
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>>157759065
>49
what? isn't it 79?
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>>157757680
there is a viewer
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>>157759305
what game
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>>157759330
Not yet, no. Max level is 49 for the beta.

>>157759407
Armor isn't listed there. You need to physically move yourself to the vendor to view it.
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>>157759305
>certified human
wow what a bunch of fucking speciesists
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WASD or ESDF ?
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>>157759529
are you sure
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>>157759305
Check mate
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Does this game allow one click healing macros like WoW?
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>>157759717
>ESDF
wat
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So I shortened her legs a little, they did look a little long in game. Widened her hips and narrowed her shoulders a little bit. Think her proportions are better now.
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>>157759941
>can't even fully sprint

Buncha animals
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>>157760123
I'd narrow her shoulders a bit more
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>>157759305
>>157759941
what games
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>>157735518
works fine in seamonkey
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>>157760043
You get access to more buttons closer to movement keys

good setup for RTS and MOBAs
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>>157760465
Devilian >>157759305

Don't know the other
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>>157760756
>a trion game
pottery
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>>157760465
Swtor
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>>157759941
I love how you can't even use more than 2-3 hotbars without paying

That's the fucking worst shit I've ever seen.
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>>157759879
Armor, not costumes.
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>>157759717
DZXC
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>>157760975
Yeah that's scarred me for life. I'll never forget that moment I logged in with a friend when it launched f2p and had our minds blown
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>>157760123
they are always long in game
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So where can I see the different class armors?

It wont let me preview armor from other class
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>>157760486
My browsers are shit then.
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>>157761205
THICCCCCCCCCCCCC
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>>157759305
The first few years of Wakfu.
>can't choose a nation so you're stuck in the beginner island
>can't fight any mobs from other nations so you're stuck fighting level 5 mobs
>can't gather resources
>can't craft
>no access to your house and storage
>can't use skills
It was only free if you only wanted to make an account, download and log in. To actually play you needed to subscribe. I was surprised they advertised it as free to play.
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>>157761205
Why are your calves as fat as your thighs?
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Do the Twitter puzzles ,still give you keys?
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>>157761205
>those legs
I want to ride on your back make me go yeehah
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>>157761515
checking the max sliders
i reduced them a bit
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>>157760123
Improvement, yes.
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How often do they give free Pons in Mabi? I just need 9 more so I can rebirth to the mage one so I don't have to hunt for pages.
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>>157761570
>my.com
>free keys
hah
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>>157762165
Where's your character?
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>>157762268
Very rare, to be honest.
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>>157761960
Love these legs!

Post ass!
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>tfw you can't be a shota in RevO
fucking lolifags off yourself pls
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>>157762654
tits>ass
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>>157762581
hey kid, wanna key?
I have one just for you
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>>157762874
Fite me m8.
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>>157762874
>>157763019
p.belly>tits>ass
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>>157762654
>avatarfagging
it begins
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>>157763113
Sweet Satan, don't kill yourself on these shoes.
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>>157762874
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>>157763113
the hell is with your right leg
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wtf is with these shoulder joints
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>>157763502
shes just really flexible
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>>157763596
lol i was joking you pathetic loser
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>>157763696
Your feet look weird.
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>high as fuck heels when not wearing anything
I wish it was barefoot instead, even if it would look like shit when zoomed in. Fuck heels. I don't know why but I really dislike high heels.
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>>157764353
the heels get higher the lower you set your calf length
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>>157762874
is dis nigga serious
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>>157763113
>>157763696
>Those heels
Absolutely disgusting.

Also why is every character in this thread using that ugly looking negligee-like clothing? Where are the cool outfits?
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>>157764516
It's the default costume when you unequip all your gear.
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>>157764353
Fun fact:
Heels were originally for men. Women started wearing them because it made them masculine.
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>>157764574
Well, it sucks, wear some armor, nerds.
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>>157764645
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>>157764645
Only if you start wearing better armor first.
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>>157764516
not much you can do, the heels basically start at really fucking high and go to insanely fucking high
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>>157764750
Nigga my armor is awesome.

>>157764758
Damn, thats some bad news.
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Hey /mmog/

Are there any
>good
MMOs which feature angels or angelic like creatures as playable characters/central pillars of the game world?
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How do you enter that wardrobe preview thing in revo?
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Need an mmo to scratch my runescape itch. Please respond.
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>>157765026
As someone that played Runescape a lot, I would say Mabinogi.
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>>157765026
Runescape______
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>>157764750
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>>157764909
Elins in TERA.
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>>157761960
Definitely look better now!
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>>157764909
Aren't you an actual god in Skyforge?
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>>157749552

Tetora has a pussy though, so more like a tranny than trap.

Dick = Trap
No Dick = MtF
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>new tera patch in 2 days
its something... fuck that general through
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>>157740171


Give it a try. Paladins has potential to be better than overwatch with more polish. The card system gives way more freedom.
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>>157769582
uguu don't you like butts and elins?
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Does anyone in revo cn want to play together?
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>>157739939
>Clicker heroes

People are retarded.
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>>157770490
I enjoy it.
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>>157769582
I don't know how terafags manage to avatarfag so hard when every fucking face in their character creator looks like dogshite
I honestly can't believe that was considered 'good' character creation once upon a time, the faces are so fucking uncanny. It's like the art director's never seen human beings before and tried to draw faces based on stories passed through a slot on his door.
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>>157739949

Tera does combat right and no other MMO has copied it.

It's actually amazing. Tera probably has the world record for longest time a successful game has gone without having the core element that makes it successful get copypastad into a billion different knockoffs.
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>>157770736
I'm not going to praise that shit game as hard, but I WILL admit I liked the combat more than most games.

I'm just glad that revo lets you change your controls to feel similar to that style.
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>>157770710

Because when Tera came out a lot of the MMOs back then still didn't even have sliders.

You had shit like in Guild Wars 1 where "customization" meant combining different preset faces with eye/hair color and maybe some accessories if you were lucky.
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>>157769681
except the gameplay is trash
I don't even play OW anymore since I got bored of it but paladins feels legit horrible to play
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>>157770932
>I'm just glad that revo lets you change your controls to feel similar to that style.

This, different controlls really work well with different classes and roles. Trying to heal in crowd with action style controlls is just impossible.
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>>157770932
>I'm just glad that revo lets you change your controls to feel similar to that style.
as someone who hasnt played the game, this to me just sounds like theres going to be 3 shitty, poorly optimized options instead of one well fleshed out one
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>>157770490
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>>157771275
All three work really well, at least from my experience.
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>>157770736
tanking in that game as lancer was great
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DNhacks anon here.

No update on the translation patch yesterday because SEA patch didn't include script changes (except in the Vietnamese script but that's useless)

I did an update a while back to adjust the practice mode menu on NPCs, but NA doesn't have that so it's kind of pointless to update your mods now

Next SEA patch should be on the 1st of November
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>>157771428
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>>157739939
>those people still playing Warframe and Payday 2
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>>157772173
>Next SEA patch should be on the 1st of November
And hopefully cleric will get their fucking awakenings
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Hey lads, kinda tempted to start playing a MMO.

I don't really want to play WoW even though its the go-to one. I was thinking of picking up LotRO.

Anyone here have pros/cons? The subscription/paywall seems to be a fucking mess
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>>157772173
what game are you talking about and who cares
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>>157772992
>what game are you talking about
Dragon Nest
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>>157772825
Isn't the payment model the same as DnDO's? Like, you can unlock all the content for free, but it takes hard work and dedication. I liked it, back when I played. No idea about LotRO.
>>
http://store.steampowered.com/app/429790/
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>>157772825
WoW, Tera, Guild Wars 2, Blade and Soul, Black Desert Online, Final Fantasy 14.
I'd recommend Runescape before LotR

>>157772992
Literally the first 2 letters of the post
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>>157773626
Dueling network?
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>>157773920
rip
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>>157773920
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>>157772365
I thought Payday died a month after release, and didn't know Warframe was ever playable. What in the fuck is going on
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>>157774167
I stopped playing PD2 right before they released the crates and never went back. Warframe, I just go back to after several months, play it for a while, then quit again. Just scratches that "jump and glide around like a dumb animu ninja and shoot things" feel.
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>>157772992

>most played game in the general
>"what are you talking about who cares"

regardless of how many people play this is /mmog/
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>>157775113
>DN
>MMO
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>>157775113
>most played game in the general
that's not revo
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>>157775258

that game isn't even in beta and people just go to the chink version to make characters
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>>157758942
>>157759065
are characters in the closed beta being wiped? thats a pretty long closed beta
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>>157772173

Also because all the dubbers except Russians are lazy shits, Warrior, Archer, Sorceress and Cleric characters will randomly speak Korean when using an Awakening skill or Dash. I'm aware of that and I'm working to cover up those with files borrowed from other skills.
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>>157771435
well thats good to hear
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>another mmorpg
>no bard class
>healer uses a bell
>no bard class
>tfw no bard with trumpet, sax, accordion or hurdy gurdy

And you wonder why mmorpg are shit.
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>>157776104
bard is a meme
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>>157768552
>>157764909
yeah but skyforge is in a really bad place right now. there is literally *NO* customization for classes, from items to skills or passives. everyone is a clone of each other.
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>>157773626
i forgot all about black desert online, what happened with that? everyone was really hyped then i heard nothing about it after release or the beta or whatever.
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>Revo
>No one actually playing it

>DN
>Just some fags attentionwhoring characters

>AK/TS
>Dead

>The rest
>garbage


Is there any MMO??????
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>>157776363
Not as much as healer is.

>Not wanting that sweet accuracy buff.
>Best caster.
>Can fight in melee.

Enjoy you're shitty THAC0.
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get
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>>157777810
kek
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>>157777810
Pretty close
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>>157772365
>>157774167
>>157774465
I've never played it, but I heard that lately Payday 2 went back to the original devs/publishers and they removed the crap that annoyed most people like those crates you mentioned. I could be wrong, but you might wanna check it out again since you've already purchased it.
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>>157777013
>revo
B-but I'm playing it right now.
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>>157777013
>Revo
>No one actually playing it
maybe cause the cbt comes out on the 25th and using other region versions is annoying
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>>157779953
>B-but I'm playing it right now.

Post cute costumes or begone.
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>>157780290
this
i want some lewd cash shop lolis
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>>157738589
The only time you will get a game like this is if they make self-healing options viable in the form of life leech or items which are actually worth a damn.

Diablo 2 did it PERFECTLY, where life leech was the only way to really do hell. No healing options, but complete reliance on doing your job effectively enough where the sheer amount of damage you output would outweigh the damage you received.

What I just described is fairly similar to what Guild Wars 2 tried to do.

But until we get that MMO, you're stuck with me.

>>157746713
>Healing draws out fights into resource based endurance battles or simple level/gear checks.
Actually, the RPG elements do this all by themselves. You cannot have a game with RPG elements that doesn't boil down to just whose numbers are bigger. Even if you have an action element to it. Even a game like Dark Souls has estus.

>However to move away from the trinity developers actually need to make good AI and environments which takes too much work
This I agree with. Best AI in an MMO I've ever played is still Tabula Rasa. I'm afraid the game dying has set MMO AI back ten years. We're still not back at the age where mobs can patrol instead of wander.

>>157749906
>>157750505

Healers are a thing because people make mistakes. There is no nefarious reason for why they are added such as lazy design or lazy players.

The best MMORPGs have healers because there are a number of things in any encounter that can ruin it that really aren't the players fault. Laggy server, poor connectivity, requiring coordination between multiple people, bad playing habits, and maybe waaaay down the list is lazy mob design.

Healers are like Coffee that's mostly cream and sugar. People claim that they don't want it, because they're skilled and big enough to do any well-designed encounter completely without damage every time. They say this up until the point they make a mistake and then need help. That's where I come in, and I'm happy to be of service.
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>>157762825
This, I want it to balance things out.

male lyns looked like garbage
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>>157778794
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>>157781227
>Diablo 2 did it PERFECTLY, where life leech was the only way to really do hell. No healing options
-Aside from your potions, I mean. And Diablo potions were almost nerfed at one point for being extremely strong heals.
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>>157780479

I don't use loli characters.
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>>157781661
Not him, but good man.

I prefer teenage looking characters, myself. Too young and it looks stupid.
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>>157776104
Bard would be nice. Aura Kingdom bards were okay, but looked very silly.

>>157750362
What? The primeval example of a healer comes from D&D. Before Everquest, MUDs had it. Even if you look across the RPG landscape, quite a few RPGs at the time, JRPG or WRPG, were littered with characters and classes specifically meant for healing.

I actually can't even begin to understand what your post is about.
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Is there a place to find presets early that doesn't require registering an account on a Chinese website that I can't read?

Can I somehow get the game and mess around in the character editor without having to download the entire Chinese client or registering a Chinese burn phone?
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>>157781227
>Healers are a thing because people make mistakes.

Healers are people too ;(

>>157782330
Bards in Forsaken World and ArcheAge were cool.

>>157782449
Sadly, this is not BDO.
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>>157782449
wait for CBT
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>>157782509
>Healers are people too ;(

I'm glad someone else thinks so, because the last few days in these threads have been a vicious attack on all things healer. I suspect it's the work of DPS classes.
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>>157782449
There's French and Russian sites if you don't like Chinese. H-heh.
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>>157782708
>I suspect it's the work of DPS classes.
Shut the fuck up, that line of thinking is part of the problem. It's cancer that's waiting for revog that's doing it. Not a part of the trinity
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>>157782509
>>157782330
EverQuest bards were the best. Dat song weaving.
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>>157782708
people are probably hating on healers because of the healslut meme
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>>157782890
>Shut the fuck up, that line of thinking is part of the problem.
I'm confused where this came from?

>It's cancer that's waiting for revog that's doing it. Not a part of the trinity
Ohh, I see. I don't agree this to be the case, because I think most people here only found out about RevO through this general, no? So that would mean they were always here.
>>
is Dragon Nest good now? I forced myself to hit cap way back in beta and stopped playing, I don't even remember how it played or anything about it, I just vaguely remember being pretty bored, and that I kinda liked the story.
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>>157783206
Once you reach the level cap ( 93 ) it's actually pretty fun
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>>157783096
nah this happens every time a new mmos about to come out
you should have seen the shit show archeage brought, ho boy
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>>157782927
Also mabinogi bards!
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>>157781227
Diablo 2 is my #1 game, the closest thing to perfection for me. Which says a lot because I'm a whore for healing.
I would absolutely love GW2 if it had real healers. Structured PvP was really fun, even being stuck with dpsing. And I would have gotten into PvE and world PvP.
Which is weird because I'm pretty sure they had dedicated healers in the first one. Monk I think? Shit load of regen buffs countering the dot damage. I remember the little arrows and shit.

>>157782708
Yeah it's been bumming me the fuck out. Didn't know there was that much of a hatred for them.
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>>157783004
>>157783968

That's kind of sad that the meme has become so widespread.

I actually, unironically, just want to heal everyone.
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>>157782890
Holy over rustled batman
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>>157784145
call me rustled ONE MORE TIME I FUCKING DARE YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS
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>>157784245
>triggered
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>>157784035
>You heal people, they complain.
>You don't heal people, they complain.

Entitled cunts. Just let me do my fucking job.
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>>157784507
>>157782708
>>157782509
>tips hood
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>>157784035
>I actually, unironically, just want to heal everyone.
I unironically want to heal everyone and their dicks too.
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>>157784035
how can you ironically heal someone
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>>157786175
ninja their loot and quit the party
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>>157785994
>Too bad we hare renounced sex and pledged ourselves to our deities!

>>157786175
As Occultist.
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>>157786175
>how can you ironically heal someone
Heal with Cleric Stance on and tell tank to slow down.
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rev when
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>>157786175
Get healed by someone who has specced in sick deeps.
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>>157786557
stop posting your shitty character
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>everyone is just making females characters
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>>157786646
you say that as if I post it everyday or something
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>>157786591
Question for the thread.
Should healers be expected to help with party deeps with some of their own?
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>>157786875
The only reason I need your shitty heals is cause we're not doing enough dps to alpha the dungeon down.
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>>157786750
I would make a male if I could make one that looked good.
Unfortunately, every character creator in the universe has two flavors of male: Kirito and Kratos.
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>>157786782
You've posted it enough, everyone's already seen it, fuck off.
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>>157787273
If you did, wouldn't you be by definition overleveled for the dungeon?

You could just wait until you're 5-10 levels above the dungeon requirement, and then you could totally alpha the whole thing down. Maybe even by yourself.
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>>157787465
chill out loser lol
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>>157786875

>Hey look I'm healer and the tank is so good I dont need to heal him all the time!

>Hey, you shitty DPS, I have to do dmg too because if I don't, we gonna get stuck in here 'till tomorrow!

>>157787273
It's your own fault then, cuck DPS.
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>>157786557
>knot count
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>>157787365
That's why you have to go beyond the flesh
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>>157788681
>That's why you have to go beyond the flesh

FLESH IS WEAK!
>>
Found a old buddy of mine and we spent like 2 hours talking about the old good times playing archeage


why the FUCK there's no a fucking private server for Archeage yet? That game could be the best MMO by FAR if Trion did not fucked it beyond reality.
I need that game in my life again
>>
>>157789923
>Trion
Didn't XLGames fuck it up in the first place?
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>>157790001
trion had control over the p2w shop
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>>157789045
>Search
>No matches

darn.
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>>157790749
(C69) [Fatalpulse (Asanagi)] Gareki 2 - Rising Force (Rising Force Online) [English] {desudesu}
>>
Is Tree of Savior worth a try?
>>
>>157791226
It's shit and complete trainwreck.

I had fun with it, it can be fun if you just wanna burn some time.
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>>157791226
Back in CBT, yes

Right now? No.

It's P2W to the core, extremely difficult to advance without token, and the part that made me quit: Token benefits and currency does not transfer between server. You use it on a server, and that's it. You only have it on that server. Other servers still think of you as a poorfag.

Not to mention outfits and items can only be used once, on a single character. If you buy a piece of clothing, and didn't buy it on the character you wanted; then enjoy buying it a second time.

There are some legitimately good reasons to play the game, but none of them kept me with it.
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>>157791226
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>>157791443
Also if you put your money in team storage, you can't take it out once your token runs out which is bullshit.

Mine ran out and I didn't have enough to buy more because can't take it out so i quit.
>>
I bough The Art of Dragon Nest, it's gonna take ages to arrive probably but I regret nothing
>>
>>157791443
You can exchange most premium items through team storage now.

>>157791226
But yeah it's really not worth trying at all.
>>
What's a good solo class for Dragon Nest? Im talking something with decent damage, clear speeds and survaibility (some kind of HEAL).
Tried Gladiator but they only get a 3% heal per Front Shove at the awakening, it's kinda difficult when i get hit for half my HP in some of the Abyss dungeons.

Any thoughts? i mostly play solo.
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>>157789923

i m really having the itch to play archeage again, theres some people saying to wait till december because 3.0 plus new servers, but i have a MMO itch right now and i have fond memories of archeage
>>
>>157791747
>You can exchange most premium items through team storage now.
Still, can't transfer premium currency or tokens cross-server, so that was the final straw for me.
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>>157792159
Get theano gear and learn how to dodge. There you can now solo with anything.
>>
>>157792159
Guardian
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>>157792218
Pretty much this. DN is a game where dodging is important. If you play like shit then you're going to have a tough time to solo but if you play good enough then everything can be cleared solo.
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>>157792159
Destroyer
>>
>Last week before CBT starts
>Every day starts to pass by more slowly

This always happens.

Are we going to have a small period where we can download the client before the launch?
>>
>>157792159

Chasers
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>>157792159
Play either dancer.
>>
What game can I play as a cute bara?
>>
>>157792159
Play a caster. Learn how it is to have no heal.
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>>157789045
>brainwashing the males instead of having them killed

wow that's surprisingly softer-toned than the norm
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>>157794727
Asanagi was pretty unskilled back then.
>>
is rider of icarus good?
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>>157795378
no
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Looking for onee-chans to play with!
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>>157795378
It's a good game, no P2W so far. The introduction level to the story is better than most, character creator is above average. combat is the same as Revelation by implementing every type of MMO control scheme into one game, an attempt to cater to everyone just like Revelation. But it's slightly slower than Revelation and doesn't have big anime attacks. Leveling is slow, outfits are decent, mounts are freaking amazing. It's the only game you don't have to pay for mounts, instead you see that BIG AWESOME NEON BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON and you go catch it like Pokemon!
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>>157796158
There's already been some posted, scroll up.
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Is the RevO founders pack worth it for the price over the explorer pack? I didn't play the CN version so I don't know if any of the bonuses are something that make the game that much better.
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>>157797042
For instance, what does this mean? Do I get extra skills for buying this pack? Or is this for respeccing?
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>>157797305
Wait, I should include the image.
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>>157797923
Top two are just for respeccing. Think BnS's system where you put points into skills, but can change them around at any time. You get an extra preset for changing your stats/skill points.
Bottom is only gonna be useful if you die a lot in dungeons.
Just get the 18 dollar pack.
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>>157798176
>not getting the 5 mount cat
lol whatever cuck
>>
>>157798176
Thanks anon.

>>157798424
That cat looks REALLY TACKY. In fact, it looks like someone painted a cat by hand and just pasted someone sitting on its back.
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>>157798652
>That cat looks REALLY TACKY
back the fuck off??
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>>157798424
>get 5 mount cat
>still ride it solo because nofriends who wanted to play this game with me
what's the point
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>>157798652
poor cuck detected
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>>157799007
But it looks terrible, look at this. They didn't even use a model from the game.
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>>157799007
kill yourself courante
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oWo
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>>157799007
Show us that you bought the deluxe pack then dipshit.
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>>157800067
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>>157800271
nice edit
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>>157799797
whats this
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>>157800984
furweeb fighting with himself
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I bought a fucking cuck pack
watch the game suck now that I've done that.
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>>157803574
>falling for all the revo shills
idiot
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>>157803641
Probably so.

My best justification for it has been 'WELL, YOU SEE, I SPENT 60 ON TREE OF SAVIOR SO IT'S NOT LIKE I HAVEN'T SPENT MONEY ON WORSE'.
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>>157799159
The cat doesn't seem to share the same design theme as the rest if the game.
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>>157803805
Are you sure it's even real? It looks like a kid's drawing.
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The fact that there are people who spent 25 dollars on BnS FPack which contained literally nothing and wont buy a revo FPack for 17.99 that contains a lot of shit is beyond hilarious.
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>>157804284
The fact that people spend money in mmos is fucking retarded
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>>157804284
I didn't buy BnS FPack, what did/didn't it have?
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>>157804250
Reminds me of a Cheshire Cat.
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>>157804649
What's wrong with spending money on games?

>>157804738
Literally nothing. Did you think I was kidding with the BnS packs (standard) has literally nothing in it? Oh yeah, it had 3 days access and closed beta access. I guess that's worth 25 dollars to you, yes?
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>>157804993
I see. Did I waste money by buying the explorer pack instead of the founders pack for revo, then?
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>>157804649
why so commie bro
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>>157805060
Hell no anon you're getting a fuck ton of stuff for 17.99. There is NO comparison here. BnS Pack cost more and gave you shit. Look at all those goodies in the Explorer Pack. And you get a nice outfit.
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>>157805060
>Did I waste money by buying the explorer pack instead of the founders pack for revo, then?
Yes, rule of thumb for buying founders pack for mmo is to always get the most expensive pack. They always have the best bang for buck, the cheapest packs are always just overpriced early access tickets, middle packs always have worst value for money. The end tier packs are the most value for money packs.
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>>157805573
Yeah, no. I'm not quite that clueless.
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There should be that one MMORPG that you played and enjoyed so much that no other game could match that feeling.

What's its name, and is it still alive or no?
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>>157805573
RevO expensive founder pack is shit. The first is godlike and the second one is good depending on whether or not you now how to rush through content.
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>>157805972
Shattered Galaxy
An actual pick-up-and-play MMO where your stats only contribute a minor hand to the major battle at play.

I can't really call it "alive". The servers were given to a korean moneywhoring company who charges for literally everything that Nexon did for free.
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>>157806114
oh hey I remembered that game
>tfw getting into a giant battle and waiting for some loser to finish loading
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Just got a Blade Dancer to level 93 in Dragon's Nest, what the fuck am I actually supposed to do for crests and other shit? I don't feel like I do any damage and I have literally no idea how I'm supposed to change that
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>>157806348
That was the worst.

The people who started to load and then never loaded RIGHT WHEN YOU WERE IN A MICROMANAGEMENT FIGHT WITH SOMEONE

>Yes, I know your specters are shooting my hawks, but can you please wait about ten minutes for this guy on his 28.8K modem to finish disconnecting?
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>>157806114
>tfw memories of staying home from school so I could help RL friends hold crater for six hours

I didn't expect this.
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>>157806550
Get a level 93 set and put gems in.

Even at +0 you should have 80k+ attack.
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I want to be a support slut (pure) in Dragon Nest

What class should I play?
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>>157806896
Saint

>>157806550
I play Spirit Dancer, but this guide seems accurate http://forum.dragonnest.com/forum/classes/kali-s-temple/3577-dancing-with-blades-a-90-cap-blade-dancer-guide
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>>157798652
>>157799159
That's because it is painted. They haven't finished it yet, so we have a concept art placeholder.
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>>157806896
Saint.

So you can stick your miracle relic into my black hole.
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>>157805972
lineage 2. the open world pvp at the time was mind blowing to me. that you could go up to someone and kill them whenever you want. i see now the game was a horrible grindfest, but i had tons of fun and many great memories of the game, especially the broken unbalanced pvp
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>>157807850
I used to have a friend in high school who Loved the FUCK out of L2. Even moreso than WoW.

He used to speak as if it was the most magical thing ever when he would go up to tower, get PK'd, and lose a level that he spent a week trying to get.

In a way, I wish I was there to see what was so magical about that for him.
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Does anyone on DN NA want to run Daidalos HC?
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>>157808206
Why don't you ask in guild?
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>>157808357
I'm not in the vg guild.
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>>157807109
Maybe you could answer a question for me, a friend of mine plays Kali, he just advanced to dancer and he has no idea what the meter beneath his mana is and I haven't seen it before, do you know?
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>>157808489
All those new bars inform you about the amount of "bubbles" you have, and when they'll expire. Bubbles are a sort of passive buff, or can be expended to enhance skills. They're generated and maintained through casting skills or passively.

I don't really pay attention to the new bars though, I just glance at how many bubbles I have where the buffs are displayed.
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>>157808489
If you're already spec'd for Blade or Spirit Dancer, the extra bar denotes Second Turn counters, which you get when using skills from your respective skill tree.

When using your basic Kali passive dance, you consume Second Turn counters to recover cooldown time for your corresponding skill tree's skills.
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Before we fall off

ask ourselves

"Was this a good thread?"
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>>157811761
what do you mean by that? how about you answer first.
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>tfw 99% of revo population will be staying at 49/59/69 on release instead of just power leveling
lol
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>>157812363
Not shit retard. Power leveling will fuck you in the ass.
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>paying for a test time
Yeah... nah, ill wait for OBT.
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>>157811974
Was this thread

-Entertaining
-Informative
-Polite
-Resourceful

If not, then you're not doing your part to the MMORPG community!
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>>157812363
Yeah, because that just fucks over your player power at max level if you're still using level 49 bits.
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>>157812586
Okay, we'll see you in OBT. Have fun.

Please let us know what happens in Mabi in the meantime.
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>>157812615
Are you some type of survey bot on a mission to collect important data ?
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>>157812543
>>157812707
>tfw I'm going to have more dungeons unlocked and will be getting more mats thus crafting my gear faster WHILE leveling up
whatever you dumb cucks
>b-but you can't do those dungeons with weaker gear!
Maybe if you're a downs child. Still it'll be pretty funny seeing all the normies and bads listening to cryy get left behind by the guilds who already figured this shit out.
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Another fucking Crit 2 totem. Fucking bullshit.
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>>157813148
>tfw crit10 lunchbox
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>>157812363
>>157813142
Those mats you think you're going to be getting by unlocking harder dungeons? Yeah, no. You're not going to be able to complete them.
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>>157812852
No, I want everyone to enjoy these threads instead of being miserably bitter for no apparent reason.
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>>157813231
>>157813148

So, I don't know much about Mabi. Do you just spend all day farming those to use in dungeons so you can get more crit lunchboxes?
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>>157813302
Sorry you're a downs child, senpai
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>>157813142
Just so you know, I think the concept of the system is to party with lower-level groups to get those mats. So level or power leveling isn't going to matter unless you get lucky and get all the mats on your first try. Several times. For each dungeon.
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>>157813564
Nah they are from event and i got mine on first try, i just want the spooky robe.
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>>157813564
>all day
They're daily quest rewards during the event.
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>>157813784
>>157813765
I see.
Are they randomized quest rewards?
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>>157813765
I also want the robe, but it would have been nice to get a decent or average totem. Crit 2 and Crit 3 lunchboxes.
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>>157813645
See this baby right here? You get a ton of experience from doing this, and it scales to your level. If you power level, you're not going to have enough gear to complete it, or even get very far in it--the mobs hit hard, and the entire challenge is meant to be tough even when your gear is up to par.
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>>157813856
No, you get them depending on the ending you pick, the lunchbox is from picking alfie's first ending.

Cloton's ending gives you a totem that gives you all-stat boost, mine gives shit stats but 9int and 15luck so im keeping it.
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>>157813939
MASSIVE
STONE
TIDDIES
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>>157813856
Only the stats are randomized but there are 4 totems, one for a specific quest chain.
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>>157814071
You can sit on them too. Seriously.
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>>157814227
thank god i might get this game now
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>>157814071
>>157814227
>>157814404
You get a cheevo for sitting on them
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>>157813939
I like how you made this post and the retard hasn't responded yet.


It seems you scared him away.
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>>157813148
>>157813231
Is Crit the most important? Kyle's Fountain Pen gives max damage.

Are the quests repeatable so you can keep rolling?
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>>157814841
One per day for three more weeks.
There were some instances of max damage and crit totems being directly farmable no rng involved, but for an all-stats totem this is the first time, I think. Now objectively, usual stats and crit are capped, but the max dmg can go as far as you can afford.
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>>157814841
Other two gives stats and MP, so yeah those two are probably better.
And yes, repeatable once per day. You need 8 days to finish the book.
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>>157814612
Solo modes scale to your level, so power-leveling does more harm than good on a fresh server. It's possible on an established server though, because you can buy crafted gear if you have the money, and then there's Mentoring. Anon can do whatever he wants though!
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>>157815553
>>157815594
Sounds great. I have a 55MP book that I got from William's route.

On another note, I just got archery to expert talent. I'm going to try finish up Bard next. With R9 Music Knowledge, this is going to suck.
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Any current MMO that aren't DOA or rapidly dying? MMO always seems to be a cursed genre.
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>>157816608
r7 Music Knowledge here, it will. Honestly, I just got Song to r5 so I don't have to use an instrument all the time. Getting r1 Playing Instrument sucks though. Gave up at r5.
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>>157816746
How long did it take for you to get r5 Song?
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>>157816647
ff14 still going strong. black desert is around but i dont really know much about it. im looking for something to play myself.
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>>157816983
With r7 Knowledge? Around 5-10 hours. Just afk'ed in my homestead with a microphone and music scrolls.
You're supposed to keep Musical Knowledge 1 rank above your Song and Playing instrument to level it easier. Once it's below by 2 then you're only going to get normal performances so it would be better to ditch the music scroll. Also there's an option for continuous music play so you can afk it overnight if you can.
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>>157817804
and how much is that in real money
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>>157817965
Pretty expensive. Won't fly over here if they keep the prices, which I imagine they won't.
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>>157805672
>29.8 yuan
>about 4 bucks
>hmmm it's okay I gue-
>Validity:30day
HOLY FUCKING SHIT FUCKING CHINK JEWS OMG DIE COCKSUCKER CUNTS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>157818080
>4 dollars
>getting u anything in anygame in 2016
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>>157818080
Yeah, the temporary costumes are like 1/2 the cost of permanent costumes. I can see them going for, like, $5-10 here, with the permanent ones being around $20.
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>>157817804
Did I accidentally delete this or was it purged? Anyway, prices of costumes differ. The one in the picture is one of the more expensive ones.
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>>157818346
IIRC that's the level 69 class costume for the female Occultist because I've never seen it in the CS.
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>>157818519
No, the picture in the previous post. Heh.
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>>157817965
>>157818034
I'm stupid and can't into math. They aren't that bad.

50 yuan = 500 coins, which is $7.42
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so when do people think revo is going to be actually released
or at least obt
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>>157818586
You mean this? >>157816296
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>>157818916
No, this >>157817804
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>>157818726
When you buy enough founders packs.
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>when your weapon breaks and have to rely on your pets
I'm fucking glad I finished my Sagas.
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For DN is there any sort of wiki that has what the awakening passives do?
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play healer they said

it will be fun they said
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>>157820089
>tfw you pick melee skills as a priest
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>>157820089
Then don't play a healer you massive nerd you, we have enough healers already, besides the only acceptable healers are London. Glasgows and Hampshires lack empathy required for successful health bar manipulations. Stick with Tank or DPS and maintain your masculinity cuck.
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>>157820089
>watching a show where they try to force real life and video game concepts together to generate drama
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>>157820380
I think there are more of those now than even nobunaga/sengoku animu
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Any MMO's where I can shoot stuff with some bros? I grew out of the competitive gaming scene once I stopped playing CoD.
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>>157820526
s4 league
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>>157820380

Why do people keep saying Grimgar is video game? Because it's fantasy? Isekai? Those don't automatically mean it's a game. I haven't read the novels but it's pretty clear the world isn't a video game from the anime.
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>>157820575
>Aeria
Fuck me. I'll try it out, thanks.
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>>157820000

The wikia is slow but gets updated, otherwise you can check them in the skill sim dnskillsim.herokuapp.com
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>>157739939
>Tree of Savior down from near 60k at the start to 6k in a few months
is ToS the biggest flop in MMO history?
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>>157821468
idk why people thought a game that looked and felt like that would be popular, it's so janky
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>>157821707
It's actually all the restrictions in place and IMC being incompetent as fuck that drove players away.
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starting on DN with the loli engineer because its cute and i like engineer classes. what am i in for? will probably be soloing for the majority of the game.
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>>157821978
You will never be alone.

With all that summons.
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>>157821978
Glitches if you go gm
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>>157821978

Unfortunately Engineer turrets are bugged (make no damage) and the patch is due in a few days more so you may wanna start with another class.
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>>157821978
Best husbando
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>That feel when your musical knowledge skill is stuck because the goddamn book wont drop.
Mari bros help please!
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why is kali such a slut
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>>157823347
Because she's an ancient and they aren't prudish like humans. I bet that she slept with Gaharam a few times
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How do I have fun in MMOs?
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>>157823939
Friends
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>bawww russians replaced gay healer it must be a law
>RABBIT OVERLORD is still there
you seriously believed they removed gayboi because of muh anti-gay laws?
nobody gives a fuck about this law. especially if it happens in a silly game. it was devised specifically to fuck with irritating activists with their faggot pride on a legal basis, and most people there actually support it because fuck homos they are annoying as fuck.

literally 90% of russian audience(housewives and couples, like it was the case with perfect world, this game is predicted to replace it) were infuriated by gayboy in trailer. shitstorm they produced was the reason faggyfagMchealer was replaced.
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RevO WHEN???
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Apparently playing video games is not a good excuse to call off work for 2 weeks.

Fuck working. I hate my life
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>>157824935
That's what you get for having fotm taste
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>>157824935
>have my own business
>can decide when i want to work
Feels great.
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>>157824354
>gay healer

who is gay healer?
>>
Are theater missions worth doing? I have pages because I fish a lot in Avon.
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I'm looking for a name of an MMO based around Hindu mythology. All the characters were a different kind of human. I know it isn't Asura Online or Rappelz. Also this game must to have been playable at least 10 years ago if I remember right.
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>>157826429
Tantra. I remembered playing it, but playing it solo, especially with its sepia tone, was so boring that I quit after level 30 or so.
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Any news on RevO?
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>>157826601
That's it thank you
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>>157823939

find something you like doing.

Do it.
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>>157827194
i like sucking cocks
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>>157827449
Revo's the game for you. Get into the closed beta to be top cancer
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>>157813939
>You get a ton of experience from doing this

Not really. Very early on? Yes. When you first get it, it gives a massive crapload of exp. But once you get to the 40-50 range, it's nothing amazing.

The spider dungeon is much better for exp even at later levels and you can do that from level 25 with shit gear so long as you have a party.

Not sure what the argument was about but just throwing in my two cents.
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>>157825249
Enjoy your failed business
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>>157821000
Thanks bruv
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>>157831719
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>>157831719
>>157831794

this character is really cute. is she an npc? from which game?
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>>157832018
Aura Kingdom
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>>157832018
Zephyrine, a 'pet'
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How is VoidEls? Is it as p2w as official Els?
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>>157814612
or it was 1 AM and i went to bed
don't feel like trying to convince bads who will get left behind anyway
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>>157832884
It's REALLY behind on updates and the staff is several different brands of retard but its a lot more F2P.
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>>157833194
not him, but every single new game that goes into CBT/OBT has people just like you.

>imma be like Kirito and find all the secret leveling paths and solo the dungeons all by myself!!! I'll be level gazillion by week two!!!!

Three weeks later, when it becomes blatantly clear that you can't do that even with all the shitsocking in the world, they quit.

Why do you think you'll be any different? You have people who clearly know more about the game than you do explicitly telling you that what you are planning is a bad idea and the least optimal way to level.

You just exactly like the shitters who didn't even make it to level 100 in Tree of Savior before quitting because of that game's reliance on using grouping in instances to get huge, periodic level boosts through the toughest scaled level ranges.
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>>157833605
>You have people who clearly know more about the game
I agree. If you have a group set on doing this and having everyone powerlevel you'll be way far ahead of everyone just sitting at 49/59/69
>b-but cryy said!
kys
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>>157833768
you don't get anything for being ahead though, at the end of the day you're still locked behind daily progression
>>
Can someone confirm if Engineer turrets are bugged in all game versions? I'm pretty sure they aren't in SEA.
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>>157833974
More dungeons unlocked = more materials = faster gear
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>>157834035
if you wanna spend 5 hours a day running dungeons cause you have no gear have fun i guess
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>>157834005
They are not bugged in SEA
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>tfw be legit kirito godmode player in mmos
>start fresh with 4chan
>literally miles ahead of the whole server and make guides for time efficiency and help anons out
>get bored and quit after a short time so I never actually "finish" the content
>"lol anon you still didnt finish haha such a casual"
>wait for the next mmo to do it again and prove myself and everyone else that im the most autismal grinder here
>repeat
>repeat

This is my life.
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>>157833768
You've been told this a dozen fucking times and you're still being a retard.

Powerleveling doesn't matter
Because gear progression is more important.

Again, you're one of those retarded fucks spouting how they're gonna be the next Kirito because they watched Sword Art Online they can totally rock two swords and power level all the mobs using their vegeta skills.

You'll quit in two weeks. Just like the rest of them.

Kill yourself now and save the embarrassment of crawling back to us sobbing "I THOUGHT I COULD JUST POWERLEVEL TO MAX WHY ARE ALL THESE MOBS KICKING MY ASS? THIS ISN'T FAIR I WAS GONNA BE THE BLACK SWORDSMAN"

>>157834035
This, right here, proves that you don't know shit, and are just being a stubborn retard at this point.

You can't get every material from every dungeon, you shitcake. You can only get certain level range of crafting materials from dungeons in those level ranges.

Also, good luck even completing half of those dungeons out-of-order because you scale to their level. And what's worse: your party also scales to your level, and are expecting you to be one of the pillars of that party if you're higher level than they are. So good luck even completing it with a PUG when you decided to shitsock in the overworld until all your gear is obsolete.

Maybe if you ask nicely come CBT, I'll come over with my superior gear and help you through those tough dungeons, bby.
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>>157835142
That's what you get for being a speedrunner.
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>>157835142
This is every. single. person. who thinks they are superbadass kirito.

They rush through the easy parts until they hit the hard parts.
Surprise, the late-game hard parts in MMORPGs typically suck. That's why you see people trying to 100% complete the easy parts in terms of getting the best gear and running all the dungeons before moving onto the hard parts.

So then they quit.
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>>157835291
>tfw you legit don't have an argument
>f-fucking kirito!!!!
Lol whatever baddie
https://ro.my.com/forum/thread/12841-i-m-here-to-answer-all-the-question-about-the-main-content-of-this-revelation/?pageNo=12

>You can't get every material from every dungeon, you shitcake. You can only get certain level range of crafting materials from dungeons in those level ranges.
Yes, and? You still progress faster through gear overall
>Also, good luck even completing half of those dungeons out-of-order because you scale to their level
>I'm bad therefore you must also be bad!!
lol
>So good luck even completing it with a PUG when you decided to shitsock in the overworld until all your gear is obsolete.
Except I've talked to multiple guild leaders and they all agree on rushing levels. They're just keeping retards like you in the dark so they can get ahead and own the pvp scene that much easier. I was trying to help you guys out by giving you a simple tip but whatever, continue to be delusional and vehemently defend your bad choice.
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>>157835381
I never actually quit because of being hard though.

At late game I usually find out something bad about the game or something happens like in Tree of Savior when they removed open world guild wars and that killed my motivation to keep going
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>>157833768
>trusting a random post in broken english on the fucking forums.
>he's seriously discussing the PVP element at levels that are not max level

That guy and by extension you are both retards.
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>>157835552
>he's seriously discussing the PVP element at levels that are not max level
it's almost like arenas have brackets depending on levels
I'm sorry you're in such denial
>h-how could cryy (a guy known for spreading false information and being bad at games) lie to me!!!
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>>157835472
>tfw you legit didn't even read his post
>tfw you will always be a retarded baddie.

Kill yourself now before the embarrassment sets in.

>Except I've talked to multiple guild leaders and they all agree on rushing levels.
Or maybe they're telling you that because you're gullible and retarded enough to believe them. Guild Leaders can just get their guildies to help them get their gear up to date, you're not going to have this luxury when you first start out.


Again, the more you post the more retarded you look. But no, please keep pretending that a forum post is more trustworthy than the actual words of the devs themselves who have talked about the leveling system. I'm sure this will not make you look like a retarded idiot come CBT.

I'm sorry for your terminal retardation.

>They're just keeping retards like you in the dark so they can get ahead and own the pvp scene that much easier.
This literally doesn't even make any sense because the PVP scene is divided into level tiers. Are you actually retarded or are you just pretending at this point?
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you guys are fucking retarded
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>>157835613
>it's almost like arenas have brackets depending on levels
Yes, and you're an idiot if you care about PVP sub-max level for that very reason, you dolt. Are you going to hold yourself back to stay in a certain tier just for PVP? You would be an idiot if you did so, dumbass.
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I would genuinely laugh at retards who rushed cap only to find themselves stuck with tripled skill costs and shitty gear after 60.
t. 76 CN
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>>157835730
>Or maybe they're telling you that because you're gullible and retarded enough to believe them
t. cryy subscriber PRO

>you're not going to have this luxury when you first start out
But I'm in a guild senpai

>But no, please keep pretending that a forum post is more trustworthy than the actual words of the devs themselves who have talked about the leveling system.
y-yeah just a random forum post by a top player on CN who writes guides on the CN forum and is generally well trusted
w-what does he know haha!
>This literally doesn't even make any sense because the PVP scene is divided into level tiers.
Oh wow really ? So you're telling me open world pvp will take level into account and make it fair for everyone trying to grab a castle? Good info dude I did not know this.
This is my last reply to you as you've proven throughout every post that you have no idea what you're talking about and just parrot the general consensus


>>157835825
????????????
I'm talking about power leveling not holding myself back like everyone else.
>what is pvp gear
>how do you unlock it
XD
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>>157835740
I don't know if you're the same guy, but:
>retard who is basing how he plays the game on a forum post written in broken english by a literally-who on the my.com forums
>anything but completely incorrect and stupid
seriously. we have these types every game.

every fucking game it's the same story of the retards who think that rushing to max level will make all their problems go away, and it turns out that's not how it works at all. ToS had a bunch of idiot kiritos who genuinely believed that rushing to 200 would be the easiest thing to do because they were strong players who din' need no dungeons.
Then, they quit.
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>>157835897
All you can do is laugh at them. Because clearly they're too stupid to take objective advice from people who should know better about the game than they do IE: The developers and playtesters of the CN version

No, they rather listen to unsubstantiated forum posts by chinks. Like this guy: >>157835928

>y-yeah just a random forum post by a top player on CN who writes guides on the CN forum and is generally well trusted
IE: literally who that has just as much believability as cryy. He's actually a retard projecting his insecurities because he bought into the words of another retard.

It's like him proclaiming that I must watch Cryy because I took the time to read the developer interviews, player interviews, and playthroughs that many, many people did of their characters.
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>>157835381
>every. single. person. who thinks they are superbadass kirito.

>>157835897
This. With the level scaling in dungeons, all these people gonna cripple themselves so hard.
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>>157835928
>y-yeah just a random forum post by a top player on CN who writes guides on the CN forum and is generally well trusted
>w-what does he know haha!

Clearly not much of anything reading his posts. He genuinely thinks that it's easier just to grind to max level and then farm (using what gear, exactly Mr. Forum Shitposter?) the money to buy the early game mats.

Which, btw, if you do this in any game you're a sucker. You're the person that I end up bankrupting by just collecting the vendor trash and throwing it on the auction house for scalper prices. We both know you're not going to go to a dungeon that is 40 levels below you to collect this one thing you need for advancement, but you're genuinely an idiot if you buy it from me for the price I'm asking.

tl;dr: You're an idiot if you listen to that guy.
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I don't get the Kirito meme in this case.

You are technically both kirito wannabes by even caring about the faster and safer way to progress instead of being a casual
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>>157836398
he's just autistic
spergs out about kirito for god knows what reason in every single one of his posts
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>>157836398
Because one guy genuinely believes he knows the super secret ancient techniques of the shitsocker to reach max level and ultimately dominate the server. Which, is delusion beyond delusion if anyone seriously thinks they can 'dominate' a PVP MMO server.

Thinking about level strategies is fine, even encouraged. Jerking oneself off because imma be the very best like no one ever was is cringeworthy. Especially when you base this line of thinking on forum posts which go contradictory to what the developers have discussed.
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>>157836516
But Kirito would actually do the correct thing though so that makes no sense.
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>>157836516
>Thinking about level strategies is fine, even encouraged
>he says while calling any dissenting opinions retarded and raving about kirito
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>>157836512
I think the guy bitching about how he's going to dominate the server with his secret techniques is far more autistic than the guy comparing the first guy to an archetype of idiot.
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>>157836587
He WOULD do the correct thing, unfortunately; there is no real 'shortcut' in a game like this. You just have to play it the way everyone else does, but invest more time into it.
The people thinking they can find some easy shortcut are idiots.

>>157836604
>he says while calling any dissenting opinions retarded and raving about kirito
Sorry to break the news to you fampai, but your 'dissenting opinion' is shit. Garbage. Complete and utter stupidity you leched from the my.com forums based on the forum thread of a single guy who can barely speak english.
Great 'source' there, buddy. If you excuse me, I need to go buy a fortune cookie so it can share with me its infinite wisdom in playing this game.
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>>157836398
Yeah, calling the other strategy a "kirito strategy" is basically calling it the best strategy.
The kirito meme lost its meaning over time and now it's "any player i dont like in an mmo"
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>>157836604
>dissenting opinions
>half of the thread is telling you why it won't work and you throw spergfits like >>157833768 every time someone tells you how much of a dolt you are
your opinion is shit, deal with it.
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Something tells me this chink guy is actual hoax.
I wonder why no one who played has debunked him yet, Codex and some others who actually got into lategame could done this easily, but they ain't for some reason.
Really makes ur neutrons spinning
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>>157836636
>I think the guy bitching about how he's going to dominate the server with his secret techniques
except nobody has said anything like that

>>157836761
It's really easy to put one source on a pedestal and completely disregard the other
I could put a monkey on my computer while being logged into CN
boom he's suddenly credible and should be trusted because he's played on CN
>that top CN player who writes guides and everyone listens to him on the CN forum? lol what does he know
Honestly I feel bad for you

>>157836860
t. argumentum ad populum

>>157836938
Because they can't argue against something that's correct. I bet Codex and all the other big guilds already know this and will be rushing levels while the plebs will get left behind farming their gear at a much slower rate.
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>>157836938
What chink guy?
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>>157836768
Are you on the spectrum? calling someone "kirito" is mocking them. It's mocking them because no one actually believes that they're going to take the optimum leveling route and beat everyone else. They're going to try some dumb strategy they read from a friend-of-a-friends blog/forum post/pastebin and either fuck their character up leveling or hit a wall and quit.
Common vernacular at this point.
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>>157837047
That's not a kirito, that's a retard.
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>>157837014
>except nobody has said anything like that
This >>157812363 was your first post, holy shit..
It was promptly proven wrong by people who clearly played the game and corrected you. So I don't even know what you're shitposting about at this point.
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>>157837157
>promptly proven wrong
Holy kek psychologists would have a field day with you
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>>157837014
>I could put a monkey on my computer while being logged into CN
>boom he's suddenly credible and should be trusted because he's played on CN

But you just proved why you have zero reason to be listening to this guy other than you like the things he's saying, but not the things everyone else is saying.

>t. argumentum ad populum
So you're saying, even though everyone else is telling you that this strategy does not work and you should not listen to this guy; it must have merit because it's unpopular and you don't even know if this guy is trustworthy?
I can't tell if you're trolling at this point or just defending him on principle.
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>>157836516
>Which, is delusion beyond delusion if anyone seriously thinks they can 'dominate' a PVP MMO server.
Well that is actually possible it game allows for snowballing, like AA. Deny your opposition pirates and ultimately kraken, and you'll get 20k hp skullknights who would easily be your edge in any fights. We were in this situation actually, I, as leader of competing raid had to assign dedicated telekinesis controllers to their "equipped" targets, who could easily turn edge of battle alone.
So yeah, get shit faster, deny enemy that shit, you're almost golden if your enemy can't think around and most of players CAN NOT.
Actually many mmo pvp works like this. Lineage 2 epic bosses. Aion AP dungeons. et cetera et cetera et cetera.
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>>157837265
>But you just proved why you have zero reason to be listening to this guy other than you like the things he's saying, but not the things everyone else is saying.
I'm not the one listing random nobody play testers who probably suck at the game as a source. I'm listing a top player who has played since the game's been out.

>So you're saying, even though everyone else is telling you that this strategy does not work and you should not listen to this guy; it must have merit because it's unpopular and you don't even know if this guy is trustworthy?
no actually I never said anything like that, but it's nice to see you've resorted to putting words in my mouth to try and win an internet argument
You're just telling me I'm wrong because most people disagree with me, that's not an argument, that's a logical fallacy.
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>>157836938
Well, for starters; everything he is saying only makes sense if you have at least 10-12 people who are willing to support you and give you money.
This isn't uncommon in Chinese guilds to just share money to whoever needs it. If anyone seriously thinks that they're going to get loans here and there to catch up to their gear level just because they breezed past the places where they should have been earning money; they're fooling themselves. I can't picture an english-speaking guild putting up with that bullshit and just doling out money to the person who didn't do the job they were supposed to do and farmed the money and mats they needed to advance.

I mean, sure, if he has a group of 10 cucks willing to give him money to buy all the gear once he hits max level, then he should knock himself out.
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>>157837545
>I'm not the one listing random nobody play testers who probably suck at the game as a source
Right, you're listening to a nobody forum post by someone who might suck at the game even worse than the testers, the developers, and every person in this thread that has told you how bad of an idea it is.

> I'm listing a top player who has played since the game's been out.
Do you have any sources at all that this is who he claims to be? I know the developers are the developers of this game, your evidence that this guy is a #1 top CN player stems entirely from his words and not actually anything he has done or said.
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>>157837650
>Right, you're listening to a nobody forum post by someone who might suck at the game even worse than the testers, the developers, and every person in this thread that has told you how bad of an idea it is.
again with the appeal to majority fallacy

>Do you have any sources at all that this is who he claims to be?
Screenshots and him linking his posts on the CN forums in the thread I linked you
Seriously I said I was done replying last time but this is just getting tiresome at this point. You keep repeating the same stupid shit. At least you haven't called me kirito in a few posts so that's a pretty large improvement over when we started. See you in OBT.
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>>157837545
>You're just telling me I'm wrong because most people disagree with me, that's not an argument, that's a logical fallacy.
You're telling him he's wrong because the person writing your forum posting is a top player in china. That's not an argument, that's a logical fallacy.

http://fallacyfiles.org/volvofal.html

furthermore, I would list it as an appeal to novelty. Because you don't have any proof that this 'new' method that you're proposing is any better than the method that every other person who has played the game has told you is the correct method, but you're going to listen to it anyway because it's not the popular opinion

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-novelty.html
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>>157837852
>You're telling him he's wrong because the person writing your forum posting is a top player in china.
jesus fuck your stupidity hurts
no I'm simply using him as a source to backup my argument when I already EXPLAINED how the method works
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>>157837818
>All this shitposting about how great you're going to be when the game comes out because you listened to this literally who on the forums.
>You're not even playing CBT
>While people are actually learning the correct way to play the game, you're going to be angrily posting in mmog about how you're going to rush to max level the moment OBT starts.
That's fucking rich. The cherry on-top of your complete bullshit posts.
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>>157837973
I can't not reply you are a master of pretending to be retarded and triggering me
>>You're not even playing CBT
never said that
I am playing in CBT as I bought founders packs, I'm just not going to bother gloating about my progression until OBT where it actually matters
seriously arguing with you is so tedious
>I like cheese
>what's that? you like HITLER?
that's basically what every post of yours has been like
literally the only way you can argue is to assume shit that I never said
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who has the time and attention span for these paragraphs
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>>157837941
That's not an argument, that's a logical fallacy.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

You have no proof this method works. Multiple sources are telling you this method does not work. Your only proof that this method works is that this guy is *allegedly* a top player in CN.
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>>157838074
apparently not the aspie I'm arguing with
took him 8+ posts to lay off calling him kirito
now he's sticking with putting shit in my mouth

>>157838098
top ironic post there lad
I have proof this method works.
>Multiple sources are telling you this method does not work
not an argument
See you in OBT.
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>>157838065
>Triggered
>brings up Hitler for no reason
>I am playing in CBT as I bought founders packs, I'm just not going to bother gloating about my progression until OBT where it actually matters
You're gloating about it now, before the CBT even starts. Do you seriously think you're not going to be spitting about how great you're going to be in CBT?

>literally the only way you can argue is to assume shit that I never said
You said 'See you in OBT'. Why would you say that and not CBT? You'll be here every day whether you're in or not.

tl;dr: You either had a typo or a slip.
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>>157838203
>I have proof this method works.
Such as?

>A post from a Chinese player on the my.com forums

I have proof your method DOESN'T work, and will leave you horribly in debt when you hit max level. This comes from the devs, people who have played the game, and the playtesters.

>Multiple sources are telling you this method does not work
>not an argument

>single source that says it does work
>argument

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
See you in OBT.
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he did nothing wrong
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>>157838074

I bet they work in teams.
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Real footage of literally me against your shitty guild in revo, n00b

https://youtu.be/QAYGzaRhciM
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>>157838230
>explain something clearly
>retarded anon doesn't understand it
I would expect nothing less
How can I gloat about progress that hasn't been made yet on NA. Why would I post about shit that will get wiped. The level cap is also going to be 49.
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>>157838379
please dont post mariya i just jacked off

captcha HARDING
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>>157838402
>How can I gloat about progress that hasn't been made yet on NA.
Right around here: >>157812363
And here: >>157833768

It's like you're so autistic that you don't even realize that you've been obsessing over this the past two hours.
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>>157838627
Actually I just came back from grabbing breakfast and was posting while eating. Those posts aren't gloating about progress, they're gloating about not being a retard that listens to bad players just because a lot of people also agree with those bad players.
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>>157838402
>explain it clearly
You explained to everyone how retarded you were for following this forum post by some guy. Does that count?
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>>157838694
> they're gloating about not being a retard that listens to bad players just because a lot of people also agree with those bad players.
>based on a theory that you've never tried
>on a game you've never played
>but I'm not gloating guys, I swear

I would expect nothing less.
I'm sorry you got suckered into a bad idea based on a my.com forum post by a literally who. I'll listen to the devs and testers and we'll see who gets further with less hassle in CBT.
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New to revo here

I just watched Cryy's and Nocht's guides and don't really get the difference between rushing level and not rushing level, gameplan-wise.

Like, I was planning on just doing every quest and do every single daily quest and dungeon/grind as they open up.
Does that count as rushing in this game?
>>
Never played RO before and tried a private server recently, but damn. You have to create multiple characters to be successful in this game.
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>>157839156
Not really. Just a merchant.

It also depends on the server. What server is it?
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>>157839156
Yes, you would want a merchant for selling stuff, sage for weapon endow, two linkers.

Priests are everywhere, so asking for buffs is no problem. Some people have bards to follow them.
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>>157839217
TalonRO
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>>157839340
I'm so sad for the new players trying the game now and seeing it in this shameful state.

I wish nobody else tried it and just remained a pure fond memory in the heart of the veterans.
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>>157839048
Yes
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Revelation was a mistake
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>>157839340
Good choice. Alot of active guilds and best GMs ever.

I really love that server.

>>157839437
>a pure fond memory
I wish ToS wasn't such massive fuck up. Playing autoattack priest reminded me of old good days of battle priests in RO.
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>>157839513
What should I theoretically avoid to not overlevel?
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>>157839437
My fond memories consisted of me botting my way to the top.
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>>157839437
I found it to be pretty fun though, The only MMO which I didn't uninstall within 30 minutes of playing. I actually lasted for 1 week and a half. I just stopped playing because creating multiple characters and leveling them discouraged me.
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>>157839583
You should avoid playing the game, that way you'll never be overleveled.
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>>157839579
>best gms ever
uhhh no, people specifically dont play that server because of the gms
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>>157838074
I'm spending the last several minutes for the last draw I need for Halloween Bingo on DNSEA.
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>>157796158
>pic

Sauce anyone? I beg you!

>>157839690
I liked them, but haven't played over a year now. Did some drama happened?
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>>157839685
>finally a new game with open world pvp and good karma
>not playing
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>>157839048
You can't really grind in this game anyways. Once you get to a certain point you can only do so much stuff per day to get exp.

Granted there's a shit load of stuff to do per day so you could try do every single thing you wanted to. But that doesn't really count as grinding.
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>>157839883
>Irine's most cherished bear
Ha, that reminds me of the latest cash grab in the form of a mount-only treasure box for 33k CC.
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>>157840270
>pantsu on front
Noice.
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>>157840196
That sounds like shit desu

The "grinding is bad" meme went too far
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>>157775391
anyone have any idea about this? id really like to know before i decide upon buying a founders pack.
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New bread where?
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>>157839048
>I just watched Cryy's and Nocht's guides and don't really get the difference between rushing level and not rushing level, gameplan-wise.

Just wait for RevO pasta.
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>>157840898
Daily Quests are good unless they amount to the hundreds and you begin struggle to choose which ones you need to do.

In Dragon Nest, like in most Chink games, they have to compensate for controlling player game time. In DN, players have between 10 and 15 Daily Tasks to do. That involves relatively menial tasks like enhancing an item one level once or disassembling an item, or clearing certain daily quests. This is just dailies, though. A lot of content are available for only a certain amount of times per week.

No idea about how RevO does it though. Will My remove the anti-gaming addiction restrictions in the game, for starters?
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>>157842102
why cant we go back to the times where mmos just had players, mobs and bosses and you just went outside and killed shit all night with friends until the enemy guild showed up and we start fucking each other up
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>>157842583
players want a clear objective today
dailies is nothing more than good old grind partitioned into smaller chunks you can checkbox
it's okay when it makes people collide with each other and\or socialize
it's shit when it forces you to do it solo
solo.
in a massive online multiplayer game.
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>>157842583
Blame the Chinks. When they want something, they usually go extreme lengths for it, even to the point of killing themselves for epic-grade loot. Same Chinks also turn prisoners into gold slaves.

Basically, China has ruined the concept of MMORPGs in the Asian region, and is also helping develop a similar stigma in NA. If not for WoW, MMORPGs would have died earlier in favor of MOBAs and FPS games.
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>>157842846
the fuck ur talking about kid, exactly two games from chinks that made it out here and I've played before were great
very hardcore, pvp-centric, FUN
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>>157842846
I'm still a bit grateful to the chinks for having the balls of making a pk game in 2016
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>>157842963
Just saiyan. The main reason why a lot of Chinese games bow down so hard to the tuhaos is because they are the easy way for money. That doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of fun games made by China; the problem is that any game can potentially be P2W if the devs allow it to be.

DNSEA is fucking lucky for having decent service, especially with less and less SEA servers opened for MMOs lately. What are the other options? Playpark, Level Up Games, Aeria? Fuck that shit.
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>>157843503
>tfw bless is aeria
just
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>>157844170
>>157844170
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>>157833381
Honestly, at this point, being behind on updates is becoming more and more of a bonus. Trans updates would be nice, but everything past those is a downhill slide into deeper shit.
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