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first for kirito
Revpasta.
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>>157844403
Will it be actually good or just a fucking meme?
>>157844653
AQ is the browser game that severely limits your potion usage, isn't it? I remember trying it out and quitting once I found out the limitations enforced on non-premium users.
>>157828040
It seems like "nothing amazing" because of the sheer amount of XP you need to level up at that point. You're no longer getting one level per room. As for the spider dungeon, the solo version scales to your level, and if you power-level, you're not going to be able to beat the harder party versions anyway to to the gear discrepancy. There's no reason to rush levels, because it hurts more than it helps on a fresh server, is what I'm saying.
>>157835472
Unless you're Superman with the Justice League at your back doing dungeons, you're going to die--the mechanics will kill you. Not because you're bad, but because there's certain mechanics that are going to chunk your HP with your horrible gear no matter what. Also, what >>157835291 said is right. Certain materials only drop from certain dungeons, so what's the point of unlocking dungeons you can't complete for these materials? >>157835897 is right too.
I suggest you and your buddies actually try the game to confirm that it's plausible before making it 10x harder on yourselves.
>>157844653
Looking good so far, probably will know by the end of the day
>>157844765
>severely limits your potion usage
Wrong game I think
And this is an actual game, not browse nonsense. But based off that, yeah
>>157844918
To continue this, because I forgot to mention PvP: If your main goal in life is PvP, then go for it. There's no reason not to power-level since you can get all your gear via PvP if you wanted to (and because of what Mystery said), but it's going to be PvP-focused gear not suitable for PvE. You're going to get shafted on the PvE front no matter what.
>>157845140
uhmmmm this certainly isn't a good sign
>>157845748
MY BUBBLE ISN'T BURSTED YET
>>157844421
>Steam Group
>Steam
Eww. What's next? Discord? Fasebook?
fuck you guys I'm joining a normie guild
>>157846534
Can I be your healer?
>>157846934
well we could use more healers actually
>>157847190
*Raises hand*
>>157847263
yes anon what is it?
>>157847190
Healers guild when.
>>157847290
Healer ready for duty!
>>157847492
lolis not allowed
only traps and baras
>>157847535
>only traps and baras
Excelent choices.
>>157847535
Then I can't join.
>>157844918
>It seems like "nothing amazing" because of the sheer amount of XP you need to level up at that point.
Yes, that's my point.
Also I never mentioned the solo version of spiders, the solo version is bullshit and hardly worth the effort unless you're just bored. The easy party mode of spiders is amazing exp even at 50+
Also like I mentioned before, you can't really rush levels anyway. The amount of exp you can gain per day is limited. Things really slow down past 40 and by that point you should be sufficiently geared to do level 40 or so content. If you just level as you normally would, do dungeons, dailies whatever. You'll be able to gear up as you level.
There's no reason to rush because you just can't. People that try to rush will find they can't really do anything once they've done all the daily things that reward any meaningful amount of exp. Then they get bored and quit. Rushing doesn't hurt because of gear, it's relatively easy to keep up with gear because of how slow leveling gets.
should i try AK?
>>157844918
You forgot to include EXO quests and how pushing brackets fucks you on the weekly because it chooses the hardest difficulty for your bracket. If you can't complete it, you're missing out on valuable rank points and currency to buy mats needed to craft your gear.
>>157847662
But is it possible to find a place to just grind monsters after finishing everything for the day?
Even for small exp and money, don't really care
who /rider of icarus/ here
steam just downloaded an update for me
>>157847535
B-but I don't identify as a loli
>>157847667
Yes
>>157847662
yeah but there's a mechanic in place where you don't level up on purpose
I think it's dumb to do that too much until you have perfect gear
Just save up the max amount of exp you can save up and then level up so you don't waste daily exp
>>157847535
I like where this is going.
>>157847907
A-are you gonna play with me?
>>157848127
No, I'm too busy wasting my life in Elsword right now
>>157847662
Read >>157847719
You'll want to stop at certain points because of this if you aren't sufficiently geared by then, otherwise you make things harder on yourself. They do gear checks in the Chinese version for a reason, and it's because these dungeons can be very difficult.
>>157844403
wait what the fuck is this
>>157848309
a clear example on how to not design an mmo
>>157848309
nothing
>>157848309
Adventure Quest MMO
>>157848029
You can save up a good amount, so just plan ahead so you're not put in that position. I agree that your gear doesn't need to be perfect.
I'm just gonna play the game blindly and follow my MMO instincts, fuck it.
>>157848497
>You can save up a good amount
I'm going to need to test the max amount in CBT or maybe the game tells you when you're maxed out on stored exp
I think this whole rushing vs staying argument is a bit dumb since the most efficient route seems to be right in the middle. Don't sit at max stored exp but don't ignore getting gear either.
can everyone please post what game you are talking about if you post screenshots or are recruiting for a guild, etc. it would be very helpful and save many posts
Sweet jesus I'm going to spend the first 5 days of cbt in the character creation and make the perfect trap.
>>157848661
I think it's 200%, but yeah, would be great to confirm. You're not sitting there purely for gear though, as you need XP to customize your skills. I know getting the cleanse for Spiritshaper is mandatory for a lot of dungeons.
>>157848661
It's around 200%.
>>157848784
Healer or Occ trap?
>>157848709
No, lurk more.
>>157844918
just some simple numbers for you rushfags out there
31th skill talent costs ~3.5 million shards and ~30k tickets on 59
same thing costs ~7-8 million shards and ~60k tickets on 60+
>>157849006
Occ. I love the dark and light gimmick.
Why is revo cn such a laggy piece of shit?
>>157849109
Because Chinese server
>>157849050
To be honest that sounds absolutely buttretarded.
>>157849109
>cn
>why laggy
I think it's because the moons gravity is interfering with data.
>>157849213
>he believes in gravity
lol fucking blue pilled normies
Are Reforges important in Mabi?
I think at this point the best bet is to just wait for eve to go f2p in nov and join meme corps and gank people in your shitty free alpha clones.
>>157849317
Explain this.
>>157849628
Depending on weapon you are using. Mostly yes, they increase your damage alot. Just check the reforge page on wiki, you aim at lv18-20 reforges for skills/masteries and mutiple elemental reforges.
you know what I hate
mmos opening on mondays/tuesdays
seriously fuck you
>>157849698
nope the solution to /mmog/ is private servers for old mmos
everything out right now is shit and pay2wins kill it if its any decent
>>157849857
russia didn't reach a lake they reached the world inside of our hollow planet
>>157849857
So is it p2w where you're basically a useless fuck without it?
>>157848373
>>157849923
>he thinks private servers aren't p2w
>>157849975
I bet they meet Hitler, who fleed inside the hollow zone.
>>157849985
Yes, exacly.
This is my old lance. There are better reforges for it, but I didn't wanted to invest more in it.
>>157848709
>>157847852
I don't think so, at least from what I was able to see. Money, maybe. Exp, Doubt it.
>>157848278
Yes but what I'm saying is that it's relatively easy to stay sufficiently geared while you level. I'm not going to lie, it is usually a good idea to hold off leveling if you need to get some other shit done first, that's a common practice. All I'm saying is that you guys are trying to say that 'rushing' levels is the devil. When really it's not that bad so long as you're smart about it.
I was fine doing the god mode dungeons with two people, it took a while but it wasn't impossible. We stayed geared enough until the harder dungeons just couldn't be done with two. If there were three others similarly geared and we had a full party, it would have been no issue.
>>157850270
That's gay. Nevermind, I don't want to play it.
>>157850556
Yes, reforges are damn gay.
I hate that the healer is the summoner. Summoners are gay.
>>157850052
most people who play are against pay2win and theres usually some method to get cash currency
>>157847535
>only traps and baras
>>157851082
>healer is the summoner. Summoners are gay.
:D
>>157851348
>>157851446
I'll heal you anyway.
>/mmog/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxAI9NyiuH8
dulfy.net/2016/10/18/revelation-online-friends-and-mentoring-guide/
I wish I was a NEET and could play MMOs everyday.
Fucking work is ridiculous, even though working hours is 8 hours a day, it still takes up about 10-12 hours a day with all the commuting and other related crap. And I'm too tired to do anything after work.
>>157852556
Shame you can be a brown elf in Revelation. Or brown for that matter.
>>157851082
In rev? You don't actually summon shit desu. It's more like druid.
Why isnt there any elf races ? Or panda, or mushroom, or anything thats not a tall/short human?
>>157852556
>>157853004
that's lame.
How come theres only 6 classes and the games been out for like years in chinese
>>157851082
technically its a spirit shaper
>>157853180
A new class is supposedly coming out by the end of the year. People have theorized that it's an assassin class.
>>157853289
For what purpose, game already has assassin-blademaster.
>>157853348
maybe a stealth class
>>157853348
He's more of a berserker than an assassin.
>>157853408
That would be awful mate
>>157853502
He occupies assassin sub-role, there's no fucking point in another.
>Everyone trying to act like they know about the game
>>157852842
You can actually. Its just the in-game lighting is shit and your character turns out much paler than you intended.
>>157853948
Not really. There's a lot of different ways they could make an assassin different than what's currently present in the game.
>>157854253
>Its just the in-game lighting is shit and your character turns out much paler than you intended.
Which means you can't.
>>157854310
For instance?
>>157854912
DoT/Poison based ranged dps.
>>157855149
Sounds gay af
Assassins in mmos are always ninjas
>>157854912
Rift has a bunch of different rogue classes, and then there's good ol' DnD Prestige Classes. I'm not going to regurgitate Wiki information, because then I'd go way past the character limit. Look them up; some of them are interesting.
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>>157855493
I've played rift, riftstalker was a good shit
>>157855949
I didn't like Rift, but I did like the class variety. I think they did really well in that aspect.
>>157856081
hell to balance
>>157855674
soon
>>157856838
This game looks bad anon
>>157856838
holy shit this is still around? and theres a third version?
I didnt even know there was a second
>>157857135
3 as in 3D
>>157857135
>third
3D doesn't mean third, it means three-dimensional. And yes, it's still around and it has a fairly healthy player base.
>>157857240
>>157857292
k didnt see the d, idk why they made it tiny like that
>>157857448
it is actually the third version, it just happened to be 3d so they played around with the name
>350,000 players pre-registered
>>157851646
>>157856838
Muh nostalgia
>>157858080
Where does it say that?
>>157861389
>no open pk
who
cares
>>157861389
>will always be free
That's nice, if it was true. I remember some classes in AQWorlds needed to be bought.
>>157858080
bns had 2 million players
look at where they are 10 months later
>>157861389
>p2w meme game
kek
You couldn't do shit in adventure quest without being a guardian or whatever the sub was called
>>157861584
What? I was able to finish all the quest with just an Oracle. And that was a free class.
>>157861570
more like 2 million bots
Fuck, I miss archeage. Why it went shit
>>157861802
you were locked out of most content my dude
>>157853962
This now not only applies to RevO, but AQ too
>>157861993
>>157861570
BOTS, BOTS AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE
>>157862032
No you weren't. 90% of the game was free The only things that needed paying were some classes and quests that makes grinding faster. I remember a few years back, a Halloween event where paying players got more daily quests to get the event rewards faster, that's it.
guys let's play scarlet blade
>>157861993
>>157862248
>>157861876
>they think AQ3 won't have bots
in fact out of those 350k at least some tens of thousands of those are chino bots, most probably
>>157862345
Then I am remembering everything wrong. What I remember was not being able to go to a ton of areas and not being able to use some classes or whatever because no sub.
>>157862501
No one said it's not going to have bots, we're just making fun of the >2 million BnS players
>>157862630
How long ago have you played? A lot of areas have been unlocked and almost all classes are free.
>>157862147
Amount of goofy but bizarrely fun shit you could do
Sending ships flying, slinging car across half of literally fucking continent
kicking ded shitters with your boots and then literally shit on them with cows
>>157862841
10-11 years
then again I was 12 years old back then so I probably didn't know what I was doing. I just remember doing linear quests and going underwater and shit fighting zards or whatever they were called. I remember being locked out of some areas and not being able to become a werewolf/vampire hyrbid or a ninja
>>157862979
I played back in 2014 and those classes are free now. You have to finish a quest and stuff. Except Ninja, that's event only and will likely never come back. A lot of classes are event only actually and won't come back. But they release a crap ton of other classes so it doesn't matter.
>>157862365
It's dead.
>>157862913
anyone playing Kritika ?
>>157862913
If people weren't botting/hacking for land I would have played a lot longer. But you can't function for jack shit without a piece of land. Is it possible to get some nowadays?
>>157863157
>likely never come back
I really like that in games
Proud exclusive elittest
>>157864425
me too, but millennials cry too much about that shit
did you see how many people were whining about timed exclusive overwatch skins?
>>157864524
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>millennials
really
>>157864245
Land claiming fucked it, I remember our raid rushing to claim good spots on cbt, we knew we would be fucked by ques so we claimed inister right north of cao nord, went good
But yeah bots pretty much fucked it. If game had some sort of channels and shiet it would be much better.
>>157864959
>channels
cancer of every mmo
>>157865107
why is that
>>157864959
Fuck channels and fuck you
>>157865186
channels are such a cop out and lazy way to deal with poor world planning
>>157863665
>requires a VPN
>which usually means having to download and update through a VPN
I don't even wanna
>>157865107
>>157865225
Considering game had limited spots to claim, and without claim you were basically reduced to botting mobs or stealing shit from others, at least one additional channel would really help. Good claims sold like wieners
>>157865345
But it doesn't. At least not for US.
are there any anons here that understand all the gear and gearing required for dragon nest?
i'm fairly new and want to prevent working towards the wrong weapon
i have theano gear right now, and the goal is to be able to do ice dragon nest 8man
what's the most efficient way to get there?
buying an idn unique weapon?
>>157865186
separates players
makes the world seem empty
if there are 1000 people doing x in y area then I want to see them, channels are just a lazy way of dealing with optimization and quest progression
>>157865504
after the bot problem was solved it was much easier to get a house though you'd still a bunch of fags hounding the spot and you'd have to claim it, archeage just should have had more housing spots or none at all and let you choose wherever you want to build your house
>>157865345
I play it fine without a VPN.
>>157865571
>>157865947
So it's like PSO2 then? Don't need a VPN whatsoever? Doesn't IP block anyone from the US?
>>157866043
Nope, works fine West Coast.
>>157866112
>>157866325
O-oh, I was thinking of the JP version.
I wish all my favorite hair didn't give you a huge forehead.
>>157867024
>not liking 5head
>>157867072
;_;
>Coming soon
>This item is not yet available.
>>157867423
>caring about a meme game
baka
I WANT THE CHARACTER CREATOR
REEEE
HELP, ALCHEMIST OR CLERICdragon nest
>>157844918
Quit arguing with the autist. Every fucking person now has told him his strategy is retarded and he's taking it from the fountain of knowledge known as the My.com forums.
He's going to get to max level, realize he doesn't have enough money to buy any of his skills, gear, or materials. Then he's either going to e-beg, pay2win, or suck cock in order to get the things he was too stupid to stop and get when he had the opportunity for.
You're spinning against windmills trying to give him a clue. You can't make him level his int stat IRL.
>>157849050
Pretty much this
Oh but don't worry, some chink player on the my.com forums who barely speaks english, and wrote some shitposts at one time; totally says that it all works out in the end!
So therefore, rushing must be the only way!
>>157868517
GUARDIAN
Can't you guys realize the post had broken english because he's a botter chink trying to convince people to overlevel so their skill talents cost double and they'll be forced to buy from their bots
you people are slow
Is there a /vg/ guild in the new Dragon Nest NA? Used to play it back when Nexon ran it and am considering giving it another try. Is there a good population?
>>157868517
Cleric obviously.
>>157869024
Should be listed in OP. Tbh I would rather play SEA.
>>157869229
>>157868840
I realize there's genderlock so I'm heavily leaning towards Alch now.
But Alchemist seems really straightforward and simple. Maybe I should make a Machina instead? I dunno.
What is the floppiest hat I can buy?
>>157868730
>>157868602
do you have assburgers or something nobody is even talking about that anymore
>>157869668
http://tianyulook.tumblr.com/
>>157870338
Guess what, I'm talking about it right now, BITCH
>>157870446
reported
>>157870535
>>157870402
I'm sold.
>>157863665
>>157865345
>>157865571
>>157865947
>>157866043
>>157866325
>>157866112
>>157866681
I've had the SEA version of Kritika for a long time. Leveled 5 classes to 25/30. I'd be down to play if just one of you is dedicated.
>>157871081
>>157871081
>>157871264
The filter he uses for his screenshots triggers me. Also, WHY IS CHINA IN LOVE WITH DOGE? There's so many guilds with doge icons too.
>>157871264
>>157871443
>>157871318
Doges are tasty.
>>157871318
Probably a good thing since chinks and japs despise each other. Through doge, unity
>>157865734
Depends on your class, if you are a saint, physician or guardian theano is enough just heal/tank.
If you are a dps the most efficient way is Red Dragon Legendary gear.
>>157869403
Crusader or fuck off.
>>157871909
>the most efficient way is Red Dragon Legendary gear.
are you sure about that?
the stats seem inferior to theano and for it to even be worth it'd need to be +12 which in itself is a gigantic investment for not much gain, on top of that you have to use 80 gems
I did a fuckton of contest to get a rev beta key and got lucky enough to win one except i also won two other and don't know what to do with them, no rl or steam want to try it so yeah, post ur mail if you want one i'll pick two randomly and send the keys when i'm back from work.
>>157872486
you mean to tell you have no friends to give those keys to? Not even the friends not willing to buy into a CBT?
Im surprised on how crowded DN NA is right now
atleast near the market place
>>157872486
Sure, I'll bite. What could pawsibly go wrong?
[email protected]
why is awakening front shove/deep straight so hard to hit with the stab?
Here we go lads
>>157872486
i know only one who like mmo but was so hard burned by archeage and back desert he dont want to play something asian ever again.
>>157872486
[email protected]
ya never know.
thanks
>>157873045 meant to >>157872705
>>157872486
Got a friend w/o key who wanted to try this.
Would use that key for sure.
>>157872486
[email protected]
not like i could get spammed anymore anyways
>>157872193
>are you sure about that? the stats seem inferior to theano.
RDL is the second best gear you can get with the first being Ice dragon legend.
>to even be worth it'd need to be +12
+10 is perfectly fine too
>on top of that you have to use 80 gems
80 gems >>>>>90 gems.
This is with a +11/10 RDL gear i'm pretty sure you cant get that much with Theano.
>>157873045
>>157873179
OK. You should at least offer him a key one more time before giving them out to randoms. Friends are important.
But if you really don't want to anymore then fine. I'll leave my email like everyone else.[email protected]
>>157873302
The hell is that in the bottom right?
>>157873302
Not that guy but I have quesion.
Crusader skills scale off both Str and Int. I see people going for way more Str, but wouldn't it better to go Int for more M Def?
>>157873483
Flame Origin (Bear)
Increases STR by 657
>>157873584
Crus is a DPS not a tank, 40% mdef is more than enough imo
What other games would you say this is true?
>>157873698
>ArcheAge Alpha+early Beta
>Archeage late Beta
>Archeage Open Beta+Launch
how geared do you have to be to deal with ranked ladder pvp in DN?
>>157873302
man this game is so confusing
so if i bought a unique IDN weapon as upgrade would that be retarded?
i assume RDL takes an eternity to farm anyway
how would you progress from full theano if you had to play a new account?
>>157873698
Black Desert
Archeage
>>157874178
>zorbak
literally *holds up spork*, the character
>>157874019
93 epic gear is fine, ladder scales gear so that it doesnt affect stats by much, also Skills win against gear
>>157874141
I would farm RDL
>>157874359
>>93 epic gear is fine, ladder scales gear so that it doesnt affect stats by much, also Skills win against gear
I guess I really need to start using dodge slash on gladdy awakening to get in at some point
fights just end so damned quickly
>>157874178
what game?
>>157874359
>I would farm RDL
in theano?
how long does rdl take, and how much money will i need?
>>157874479
AQW3D
>>157874178
>sempai
>m
>>157874532
RDN HC is pretty easy to clear.
>how much money will i need?A lot, welcome to endgame
They ripped the gold pickup sound from WoW kek
>>157845650
So what what should I do if I want to do the PVE shit but also PVP?
Grind for my gear for the PVE stuff and then later transition to PVP after getting geared up?
>>157874178
i'm throwing up
is this open beta? Maybe I should check it out.
OwO
>>157874768
>A lot
i got about 4k saved up atm
will i have to clear rdn for months until im able to do idn?
or is there some stopgap that allows me to do idn a bit earlier as well?
>>157875001
kek
>>157874887
Yeah. Open beta for PC, Andriod soon, iphone later in the year
rip
>>157875097
>i got about 4k saved up atm
Make that 100k and maybe yes a full +10
>will i have to clear rdn for months
3 scales per clear, you can check yourself how many each part needs.
>is there some stopgap that allows me to do idn a bit earlier as well?
You can MAYBE try with unique coma but consider i barely move the boss HP with my stats
>>157874178
Is this the new runescape?
>>157875590
>Make that 100k
and how do you make it 100k?
with dailies alone it would take many months
just farming red waste forever?
>>157875743I sell cash items
>>157875649
It feels like Runescape in the land of Wrath of the Lich King
>>157875910
mind you i understand nothing about this game, i'm just trying to find some cheap way to run or get carried in idn-hc so i can spend the 100k on the idn gear instead
is that a possibility even or is it impossible anyway
thinking about just buying a unique idn weapon at least, since it's as strong as coma
>>157876237
IDN weapon is a waste of money if you really want something else then get unique coma.
You'll never clear IDN-HC without atleast 2-3 members with 100% Final Damage wich is the most expensive stat in the game, hell i would be surprised if someone cleared IDN 8 man normal with something lower than RDL weapons ( unless they are a healer/tank )
>>157876527
thanks a lot, that advice helps very much
since you said i need so much final damage, how do you stack it?
i got like... none
Stormwind welcomes you.
>>157876697
>how do you stack it?
Cash items, 3rd stats crests with FD wich cost around 400k gold EACH for only maybe 500 FD,
Talismans with secondary FD stat wich are also around 200-300k EACH for maybe 200 FD.
Btw you need 8.2k FD to be 100% at this cap, if you really want to do this i hope you're ready to sell your kidney.
Will I receive Crusader EXP from the Training Grounds if I have not done G19/G20 yet?
>>157877108
>cash items
any particular ones?
>crests
do i farm those in 90 abyss and hope to get lucky?
>talismans
where would i farm for those?
>>157877826
>any particular ones?
Some times you can get some thro events but most of them are obtainable with real money only
>do i farm those in 90 abyss and hope to get lucky?
1% chance of getting a FD 3rd stat, if you feel lucky go ahead and try
>where would i farm for those?
You first need to get a 90 green talisman from dungeons then evolve it into rare grade with certain crafting mats.
>>157877060
yikes that looks bad
More than a graphical 'looks bad', there is so much empty space compared to how tall the characters are.
The doorknobs behind the guards at the back are at face-level.
>>157878368
thanks friend
this all sounds fucking terrible already but i'm used to these games
>>157879430
It's not that bad you're not forced to clear the current 8man raid so early, especially since they were made for more high end players.
You can still do 4man nests while wearing theano gear and you shouldnt have many problems, if you really want to try out idn go to the 4man version of it it's much easier
How do we minimize lewdposting?
>>157879860
Remove lewd games
Can you dye headwear in RevO? I want the hood to match my outfit.
>>157879860
Remember when MMOs were about fighting shit with your friends? Where they focused a lot more on content?
Now it's basically a dress up game genre. What went wrong?
>>157880579
Sorry, this hood.
>>157879860
You don't want to play with us?
>>157880689
>>157880828
Vile temptress be GONE!
>>157880828
cant even tell if this is AK or that other clone
>>157880950
No. Now get over here and hold my hand.
>>157874808
Sure. You can also work on your PvP gear at the same time as your PvE gear, because you'll have enough time to do that if you want to.
http://dulfy.net/2016/10/13/revelation-online-gearing-and-equipment-progression-guide/#Buying_from_PvP_Vendors
:^)
>>157881145
>>157881167
>equipment has random, hidden stats that are only unveiled after using a certain item
bad flashbacks to maplestory
>>157880769
Your friends are ded
>>157878534
Have to remember it has to run on mobile too
gonna try that planet calypso mmo desu
bored out of my mind
Everyone acts like the P2W made everyone quit archeage, but in reality that was just the excuse. IT wasn't even prevalent to the point where it affected virtually every non-paying player so bad that they were unmatched in every facet of the game. That's what these fags make it seem to be but it was nothing of the sort.
the "p2w" was because you could bypass a lot of shit by some item in the cashshop i forgot its name desu.
The game fell the fate of nearly every MMO, just this time there was a scapegoat we all pointed to and it was Trion.
>>157882981
Thunderstruck trees, the release of the rngbox containing easy thunderstruck trees that Trion said they would never release, it crashed the economy.
>>157877108
Damn, are those SEA prices? Then again, I haven't seen many 3rd stat FD on the marketplace in a long time in NA, but I would think that it's only between 20-50k here.
>>157882981
I left for the SPECIFICLY because I got a thunderstruck log the day before trion introduced the thunderstuck tree seeds
No game has ever hurt more than that frendo
>>157879430
It IS possible to do any nest with theano, it would just take a really long time making it far easier to screw up. Plus, you'll have to either barely clear or somehow find a way around DPS checks.
>>157882981
>every non-paying player so bad that they were unmatched in every facet of the game
but thats actually how it is now, people who spend money get better gear much, MUCH, M U C H easier than those who dont, and considering the game is literally about open world pvp shit, that matters a lot
>>157877060
>>157878534
This game was made for phones dude.
>>157883337
Archeum shit yea that's what it was I think.
>>157883413
SEA has a much better economy actually. At least they have enough money to upgrade Legendary items.
>>157883937
So what's the point of your original post, what are you trying to say?
>>157884185
Oh yeah, that's true. I think they removed some things in NA that gave the players as much gold as in SEA. Still, those inflated prices are always a laugh especially in PSO2.
>>157884186
>>157884186
The impact didn't feel as large as everyone makes it out to be. As if everyone was immediately inconvenience and their previous hours clocked into the game were rendered meaningless the second that hit the cash shop.
>>157884343
but >>157883424
a huge chunk of my time was farming for a thunderstruck tree,
the introduction of the seeds /literally/ wasted all of my time farming
Can I make an oppai loli in revo?
>>157884763
I haven't played the game, what are thunderstruck trees and what was so good about them?
>>157884343
Oh, well most of the big guilds that had huge tree farms were hit hard, considering some had hundreds of TS trees stored when they were like 1.5k so they quit en masse.
People that participated in alpha/beta, founders who paid $150, felt betrayed because trion said they wouldn't include any game breaking p2w shit in the cash shop, that was a big "fuck you" to them and a money hungry move.
Yes, at first the impact wasn't felt but just a week later the economy was already fucked. Long term though? Archeum trees were THE money makers for p2w fags. You could see the damage it did immediately on faction chat, I still remember that day, my friend quitting, people insulting trion in faction chat.
Personally I didn't quit immediately but eventually I couldn't compete against wallet warriors.
>>157884867
Yes
>>157884904
When you planted trees there was a very very small chance that in their last stage of growth they would get hit by lightning and become a thunderstruck tree
These gave you thunderstruck logs which were used to make a few really really useful things, in particular a cart that could carry a bunch of tradepacks.
Trion introduced a seed that would basically guarantee the tree would become thunderstruck, making them worth almost nothing
>>157884867
stop it
>>157885132
Why?
Eh, adventure quest is surprisingly entertaining
>>157885547
2lewd
>>157885646
>>157885612
Which one? The new 3d one?
>>157885612
I'm having fun doing dungeons with people. Notbad/10
I'll be moist once there's a healer class
>>157886592
yeah
How long is it going to take for them to let all builds play the different classes in Revelation?
>that that delicious feel when the healer screams in terror before dying.
>>157887008
>that that delicious feel when you cum so deep in the healer she screams in terror before reaching maximum ecstasy
>>157884867
Well if you use the large female body type probably you can. But with the loli body type maybe not.
>>157887008
>that thaat delicious feel when the healer dies and all the DPS cucks scream in terror and die soon after
Where the fuck do I get Frogzard brains
>>157887191
me healing the tank
Reading the FAQ for Dragon Nest, it seems like the NA server is crap compared to the SEA or EU one. Should I just play the SEA or EU one instead?
>>157887381
The loli body has a generous boob slider, but you're right in that they'll never be as big as the largest body type's.
>>157887676
that better have a dick
>>157887676
>needing to be on close range to heal
literally out of my party right now
THERE'S TOO MANY QUESTS, I CAN'T KEEP UP
>>157888057
it does
>>157888293
>it
kek
>>157888385
I don't want to say
>she
>>157887008
Hey Mariel, did you enter the drawing for a key? >>157872486
>>157888642
Stop replying to yourself
>>157887191
>>157887008
So in NA, the awakening coupon you get isn't actually for a free costume, right?
>>157888293
>>157888459
We should do some good party work
>>157889143
mfwnfw I have maid fetish and I must fap
goddamn it its also partially my fault andIm happy with myself
>>157889451
a maid fetish you say?
>>157873698
iCBT had such a low xp rate that you couldn't see what was wrong with the game because you didn't have a chance to experience nearly enough of it.
iCBT2 had horrible problems like the chat and marketplace servers being down for fucking ages and over weekends for example. Also you had enough time to see the flaws of the game if you didn't stop before 150.
Open Beta didn't really fix or change much from iCBT2. It had similar gamebreaking bugs and issues and it added a bunch of problematic features in the game that fucking sucked ass like the marketplace timers and item limits.
It needed a year more of development at the very least and it had some big flaws in the core mechanics like the XP curve and snoozefest questing.
All that wasted potential though.
>>157889756
YES MAIDS
>>157881938
>has to run on mobile
Fuck you.
>>157883683
>This game was made for phones dude.
Fuck you too.
Seriously.
Fuck you two morons.
>>157878534 gave a valid complain that is irrelevant to the technical complexity of the graphics.
>More than a graphical 'looks bad', there is so much empty space compared to how tall the characters are.
>The doorknobs behind the guards at the back are at face-level.
>doorknobs are eye level
The proportions of the world objects are way off, it's not stylistic, it's not "good", it's not "a different art style" it's just objectively shit game design. As that other guy noted.
It's fixable.
Any "BRUH ITS 4 FONEZ" argument is just an attempt at defending lazy shit game designers. Nothing more. You guys should fuck off and quit being retarded.
>>157889895
girls wearing a miad outfit? hmmmm
>>157885032
Is the game any fun? How does it play? Action combat?
>>157890057
>action combat
I wish, it's designed for mobile sooooo
>>157889937
>Expecting/wanting a fully developed MMORPG with amazing graphics on your phone all while being in beta
>>157890057
WoW with 5 skills
>>157890030
MAIDS
>>157890728
RevO best have a maid outfit
>>157890943
it doesn't. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>157891253
If its not a long maid dress, i dont care.
>>157890943
>>157890728
>>157890030
short=lame
>>157889895
>>157889756
long=good
>>157890943
>tonyshit
is this 2008
I WANT TO HUG IRIS
>>157891591
Go to sleep Mammon, you know Iris is Vestinel's cuddlebug
>>157891538
>is this 2008
I wish
>>157891693
>2008 was 25 years ago
>>157891669
WE CAN BOTH CUDDLE HER
>>157891457
>Short=lame
fool.
You're supposed to wear it short so you can wear cute panties. It's no wonder you're a longfag.
>>157890260
>amazing graphics
What I expect is for things like doorknobs to be at the correct height, graphics and map/asset design are two entirely different things.
Everything could be flat shaded with no dynamic lighting, no shadows, and low res textures. Just make sure the right things are in the right places, for fucks sake. It's not difficult.
>>157891457
i said it doesn't meaning it doesn't have maid outfits. that's a japanese thing and chinese hate japanese.
>>157892031
Doesnt take away the fact short maid outfits are for sluts and long maid outfits are for warlords and heroes.
>>157891457
>>157892378
its a good thing I like both
>>157892378
All maid outfits are for sluts you retarded obnoxious twat.
>>157891892
Do you have a doorknob fetish?
>>157892378
Dumb tripfaggot scum nys
>>157847535
Milf=Bara>Shota>Loli>Fujo>Trap
>>157893905
Nagas > Linas
>>157893905
Traps > Loli > Milf > Shota >>>> Fujo > Bara
>>157893905
Milfxloli>Bara>traps>shota
>>157893905
Fujo? Like, fujoshis? You like 2 weeks unwashed gamer gurls with butt acne and tectonic dandruff?
>want to sit down and have fun wasting hours in a MMO
>a few minutes in, realize I could be practicing art or music or a new language or catching up on reading or cooking or cleaning or organizing my maid trap porn or shitposting on 4chan or literally anything else
>stop playing
how do you guys do it
>>157893905
MILF=loli>>>>>gay shit>>>>>turds>>>>>>>>>>>>fujo=Bara=shota
>>157895074
I don't lie to myself about what I could be doing
>>157895074
2 monitors
>>157895074
>don't upgrade your gpu
Seriously, these fucking games are just not optimized, yet they have thousands of bikini and school girl outfits.
>>157893905
efufufu>ohohoho
>>157893905
Traps > shit >>>>>>>>>> your tastes
>come back
>Read through thread
>More healer hate
I just want to be helpful.
>>157897617
Blame erpers and erping tanks.
>>157897617
i can think of a few holes you can be helpful with
>>157897617
healSLUT
>>157847651
What game?
>>157898006
If you need help filling holes, ask your nearest DPS to provide some slender things to probe yourself with.
>>157898490
Your roleplaying has nothing to do with this thread. Go away metaposter.
>>157898707
just imagine how much avatarfagging he'll do once revo comes out and makes his spirit shaper
>>157898835
None, I don't avatarfag. I post pictures I find cute relevant to the post I'm making.
>>157898889
Final Fantasy is irrelevant to /dead and upcoming mmos/ thread and your posts are attention whoring. Go away, you are not cute at all.
>>157898264
That is Tree of Savior
Don't bother even downloading it.
>>157899074
>tfw 800 hours and 120 dollars spent on that game
>>355247001
nys
Whose playing warhammer online private server?
>>157899046
>Final Fantasy is irrelevant to /dead and upcoming mmos/
Two things:
There was a major content patch released not even a week ago
My posts are about healers in general. When it's about DPSs or tanks, I post other images.
So just don't worry about it.
>>157899274
>There was a major content patch released not even a week ago
for what game?
>>157899143
I have twenty to thirty dollars in unused cash shop money just sitting on my character. I'll probably never use it.
>>157899074
>>157899143
>>157899420
So what's so fucked about the game?
>>157899365
Why, Final Fantasy11of course!
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news24747.shtml
>>157899479
There's a cash shop item that automatically complete the raids for you.
>>157899479
Pretty much >>157873698
Started out with everyone having access to team storage and as many uses of the auction house as they wanted. Even allowed trading up to twenty or thirty times. No indication that this would change.
Then Open hit
Team Storage was locked (Unless you had Token)
Market was locked at one trade per day (Unless you had token)
Player trading was disabled (Unless you had token)
Multiple crashes
Cash shop items did not transfer between server
Founders pack existed for only one server
And for a while, items couldn't even be transferred between characters
They added more servers, transferred characters, but then didn't transfer founders bonuses
And then we started getting their idea of a balanced cash shop experience. Such as scrolls which instantly killed the entire dungeon for you. As well as hat reset scrolls, butt-ugly costumes which cost twice to three times as much as a premium token, 'tiered' premium bonuses, and very sloppy patches and stalled content release.
Don't know what happened after that because I quit.
>>157899874
>>157899656
Holy shit that sounds like the perfect way to kill a game...
>>157899874
the part I realized there was no hope: they fired the only GM who talked to the players. A collection of literally whos took that GM's place, and it suddenly started taking 4-5 hours to get a ticket answered.
>>157900135
Strangely enough, there's still like 6000 people who play the game, so I guess a sucker is born every minute.
http://steamspy.com/app/372000
>>157899874
>>157900358
6000 people in an mmo is a pretty ded gaem desu
>>157900135
I'd like to point out, the scroll doesn't complete the raid for you, it literally teleports the monsters into your range and kills them so you get the exp. There is actually no downside to using it.
Final Fantasy 14 - 6,115 current players, 7,461 peak today
Tree of Savior - 4,153 current players, 5,723 peak
Elder Scrolls Online - 3,112 current players, 4,321 peak
Riders of Icarus - 1,765 current players, 2,839 peak
>>157900807
Holy shit that's all ESO and FF14 have? Didn't expect that.
>>157899874
The real killer is hook64
>exp card hack
>auto complete/restart completed quests
>teleport hack
>damage hack
>godmode
>player crash hack
>channel crash hack
>>157900807
This is it, the death of mmorpgs
thank god
>>157900807
thats literally just steam, what are you on about
>>157900807
This is only based off the steam stats. FF14 players using the standalone launcher do not count towards the player numbers.
>>157901121
>>157900807
I'd like to point out
For some bizarre, unholy reason which I cannot understand: Elder Scrolls Online is wildly popular on Xbox and PS4.
Literally no clue as to why, as the game plays like the retarded little brother of The Old Republic.
>>157899874
>>157899656
The raid completion voucher is not a cash shop item. You cannot buy it with real money, it is only acquired through farming monsters.
Still a ridiculous and killjoy item though.
Also this >>157901068
>>157899874
It's funny because nothing of those were the reasons for me quitting.
The first one was changing the game from how it was in CBT1: extremely grindy and comfy, so you were forced to actually socialize and autism grind in between questing. I met a lot of people like that, it was the best.
Second is the fucking terrible optimization.
And the third one was guild neutrality.
FUCK GUILD NEUTRALITY
< Everyone right now
>>157901404
why would anyone here be mad? more like sad
>>157901396
This.
Turning it into a themepark instead of the grindy, comfy RO clone it was meant to be killed the experience for me. My favorite moments in CBT were sitting with groups of people, waiting for the monster timers to reset.
Why? Because it was just mindless fun. It wasn't running behind someone trying to keep up. It wasn't braindead encounters done entirely alone. It felt genuinely like going on a camping trip and sitting around the fire. Occasionally standing up to cause some goblins to explode.
>>157901237
It plays like an MMO that was made to be played with a controller, would be my guess
>>157901396
Not just 'fuck guild neutrality'. But also 'fuck the way they did guild neutrality'.
If it was a flag that you could only set at guild creation that prevented the creation of towers, that would be okay. People literally hopping in and out of neutrality to have the best of both worlds can suck my cock.
>>157844653
The first look is shit. Even for something that is designed for mobile.
>>157902184
Because of the doorknobs.
>>157901561
Oh baby, this.
GTB camping is the most annoying thing if you don't have a Priest.
>>157903184
Eddga farming for Tiger's Footskin though.
Everyone wants a piece of that Boy's Cap.
>Max Damage 11 totem
That's good right?
>>157902184
I'm actually playing it now and it's pretty fun desu
The "you are partying with literally everyone" system is weird and fresh
>>157901561
i miss old maplestory for this reason
>>157903743
Speaking of which, anyone know of any good old school maplestory pservers
>>157904114
theres a v83 server that just got wiped today and is going back up tomorrow called mymaple, idk if its good or not but its low rates and seems good
>>157904114
Royals
>>157903460
Keep replaying, highest the totem can go is 28 max dmg I believe.
Finished with Bard Expert Talent. I might try Fighter or Battle Alchemy next. Spinning Uppercut and Sand Burst look like great utility skills.
REVO WHEN
>>157907149
How many more talents do you need to get everything to expert?
>>157907534
11 more talents, then I can probably start doing my mainstream quests.
>want to play loli healer to get those delicious headpats from tanks after dungeons are finished
>small chars always have edge in pvp
>loli faces are horrible
what action should be taken
>>157908628
Should be easy if you have high ranks in skills and stayed as a low level.
>>157908689
You do know that there are a million sliders right?
You can make them cute if you are skilled in slider-fu.
Mabi question, is the hide and seek event repeatable for other characters? Are the coupons tradeable? Is the reward tradeable?
I don't want to do it on 7 other characters just to find out I can't do shit with it.
>>157908689
>healers
>ever being that stressed
Tankinf is the most stress
>>157909282
never actually seen a cute loli
5heads everywhere
>>157909446
depends on the encounter boiiii
highest stress for healer and out of three roles is pvp without a doubt
>>157909602
Aren't they sick memesters? There is probably a head paper bag accessory.
Why is this thread so slow?
>>157909446
>Tankinf is the most stress
>>157910714
Because the cool people who play the games are actually playing the games, what we have left are just shitposters.
>>157909439
Can't store the coupons in pets nor bank storage.
There's some guy in the official forums that says the training seal (reward) is transferable through banks though, but he said those were from leftover reward coupons from last events.
>http://tianyu.163.com/ new redirect
an event?
Someone reccommend me an app to create Chinese virtual phone numbers or something. I used to have a good one in an old phone but forgot the name and the virtual cellhphone numbers I have found so far are shit.
>>157911490
Just get a burner sim, actually don't even bother just save the money and go buy a founder's pack you aren't going to play on the chink version once cbt comes out anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7uGVFYPw3s
I went from FFXI to ArcheAge. Both beautiful and community focused MMORPGs.
Looking for another non-theme-parky MMORPG similar to the ones I mentioned.
Guild naval combat was amazing in AA ; ;
>>157911490
>>157911572
well disregard that
I just want to play around with the character creator because I'm bored
>>157901237
Do not question console players. I grew up with consoles first, PC came later and even I don't get it.
>tfw you masturbated to this
>>157912578
Hahah holy fucking shit. Even as someone who had been in since warframes alpha, even I simply don't have that many hours.
>>157913150
>>157913248
Ok I'm going to masturbate to your picture too.
>>157909602
Pvp as a healer is just stay alive cos you always get focused first
>>157910726
>requires the most situational awareness
>decides the speed at which the party proceeds
>usualy needs to best gear
>>157913405
>Pvp as a healer is just stay alive cos you always get focused first
stop embarrassing yourself scrub
>>157913557
Name an mmo where this isnt true
>>157913636
every mmo ever
focusing is easily countered
>>157909446
No, it's healer, I would never play a fucking healer as main it always ends bad.
Being a Tank it's literally just pulling aggro.
>>157913778
In mmos whrre you cant focus being a healer is even easier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQv_9mrjp0
thicc
>>157914039
>people find this attractive
>>157914124
you wouldn't fug that?
>>157914165
her back and tiny and her arms are way too thin, she looks deformed rather than attractive
>>157914039
wew
Idk about making a self insert male character anymore, bet the male fashion is shit
>>157914165
sure but when you can literally make a character's body look any way you want why would you choose something with a lard ass and cow tits
>>157914198
big females are hard to make not deformed desu
>log in to LotRO for the first time in 7 years
>pop ups everywhere
>everything you click on wants you to insert money
>locked out of content that I already paid for when I bought the game
It feels less like an MMORPG and more like a sketchy Russian porn site
>>157914198
>>157914219
yes but would you insert your penis in her vagina?
>>157914216
Yea i'm conflicted cause you can make the males really feminine and pretty cute
Can't decide between loli and cuteboi
>>157914260
>locked out of content that I already paid for when I bought the game
how is that even possible?
>>157914216
It's actually one of the few games that has decent options for males.
>>157914338
>sure
but you have to think of this in relative terms friendo-kun
if you have the power to make a 10/10 why make anything less than an 8
>>157914423
>thinking you own anything after paying for it
HAHA LOOK AT THIS DUMB GOYIM
>>157914447
are there a good amount of fun but not xD-tier costumes or are they all edgelord srs bzns
>>157914451
yeah, no doubt about it, would still plow though
>>157914423
My character was apparently standing in the middle of a quest hub when I last played. I was clicking on quest givers that I had access to before, but now it was just showing the quest text with a big "hand over some shekels to unlock this quest!" where the accept button should be.
I want to make a cute loli, but they come out vomit and I actually haven't seen a decent loli, both here or anywhere else.
>>157913824
Ive played healer main, its literally making sure hp bars dont go to zero.
Its whack a mole, how is that hard
>>157914529
they have this shitty system where you either need to pay sub to get all content, or purchase zone packs that will grant access to content
if you had sub and it expired than this would happen
if on the other hand you had packs purchased then gg lotro jewd u
>>157914216
>>157914369
Can't you just put the outfits on everyone like in Blade & Soul and Dragon's Dogma Online? In those games you can be a slutty crossdresser in little thongs and corset or nurse dress
>>157914535
Usually I come to mmos with the intention of making a loli if there is a loli race but then realize I don't like the way they look so I just settle for a minimum height female with regular human proportions
>>157914616
Game wasn't even f2p yet when I used to play. Just seems that if I owned the original box I should at least have access to all that content. From what I saw the entire game is just nickle and diming its players to death everywhere, though.
I pretty much just did monster play back when I used to play. Was locked out of my main monster character, too.
>>157914535
Maybe you're playing the wrong game.
>>157914634
I love DD for this
>>157914198
>she looks deformed
The base models are already deformed on default settings.
>legs too long
>body proportions are noodle
>thicc sliders just look fat
That guys sliderfu is weak but there isnt that much you can do
>>157914928
yours is even worse
that default outfit is awful for this bodytype too
>>157914535
>>157914779
DN little girls are good because they actually look like little girls and they are not for sexual
I'm glad none of the outfits for Academic is explicitly sexy because we don't need the TERA audience here
>>157914963
There is some clipping on the upper chest and boots.
Its not too obvious but clipping happens all the time in rev so...
Looking for a MMO. What should I play?
>>157915205
Ragnarok Online
>failed a part time job
Having anything less than 100% is going to trigger my autism.
Reminder that thickness is a sickness.
>>157915478
My boner is healthy as ever though
>>157915478
this artist it's shit also you can get banned for this picture I think
>>157914775
yeah monsterplay needs sub
they are jew faggots desu
left right after moria
>>157915674
>calling mogudan shit
How does it feel to be a cocksucking faggot?
>>157915478
oversexualization is my fetish if it even is a word
in RevO i'm gonna play a qt girl with a flat chest and H U G E D I C K
Why are chinks so cruel to build a huge boat on a turtle?
>>157915892
>>157915528
>>157915674
>>157915810
Someone shop Rei into this please.
>>157915892
Will you let me play with your huge dick little girl?
>>157915951
Maybe the boat was there first and the turtle grew underneath it?
>>157915892
>that anon who never finished the ass and buldge slider for Dark Arisen
>>157915309
Good thing they forget in three real-life days. So you can steal and hoard all their mats on all your characters.
Is the MMO genre dying?
>>157916851
Yes.
You can tell because every single MMO transition to a dress up game.
>>157915009
>DN loli
I thought they were a couple hundred years old.
>>157916871
I know. Every upcoming MMO is either chinese dressup or minecraft with some really lame looking combat strapped on.
>>157916871
>implying
Ragnarok Online was dress up game with half of character slots just for headgear. Hats are everything in RO. People grind weeks and shit just to get that rare hat.
>>157916990
That only makes it better.
>>157916990
Nope, they're just FROM THE FUTURE.Also clones
You might be thinking of that serial rapist Karahan and Argenta.
>>157916990
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/156581394/#156581485
>>157917025
Have you even played the newer RO? They have stat cosmetics now.
>>157915009
>>157917123
>Have you even played the newer RO
Renewal is cancer.
>>157917051
>serial rapist Karahan
is it serial if it was just one person
>>157917210
>m-muh nostalgia
ur cancer
>>157917171
Y-yes little girl, just let oji-san bury his face in your panties.
>>157917226
>one person
That we know of. Velskud was the only one brave enough to confirm suspicions.
>>157917247
No u.
>>157917368
kek
>>157917116
>devs added a shot of Commelina entering Red Dragon Nest in Chronicle mode
Nice detail
>Check RevO forums
>"OH! and SS tank is a thing if you wanna try it. You will need very specific gear for that though."
>"Guide towards Tank Occultist"
What the hell is going on, wasn't Vanguard the only tank?
>>157918112
memes
>>157918326
>memes
Just finished reading this shit. It's about pvp builds. Basically defensive stats + selfheal/def skill upgrades.
>"Due to its great scaling while building a good 40 / 40 / 20 split of ( Spirit / Constitution / Dex ) Your self healing stays up to par while also being granted passive defensive upgrades. Why? Well i'm sure you already know that building DEX on occultist gives you a 105% healing power on each skill point upgrade . . . well . . . building spirit instead only gives 100% healing power BUT it also grants you the added mana / hp regeneration and magical defense with each point as well."
I like how every skill has upgrade tree.
If these are memes, then I love them.ToS meme builds were the best.
>there are no arm and back sliders in Revelation
So that's why bulky and big characters look fucking awful, what the hell they were thinking?
>>157918890
Never mind I found them
Why many people seem to skip them tho
>>157918890
>no arm
>>157918939
I see more people skipping leg day on their bulky chars.
>>157918561
>filename
I hope you are not implying there's anything unusual about that sword usage.
>>157918979
>people skipping leg day
the presets of this game are pretty shit
>>157917226
>>157917295
Wait when did this happen
Was it that girl Sidel was with?
>>157919406
Using sword as blunt weapon to deal with armor. I t was normal.
This should have been an image of someone throwing a pommel to be 'memeswording' desu.
>>157919445
Fucking kek.
>>157919539
I'm having a hard time coming up with something I like because I feel every slider I touch make them worse
>can't be a muscle wizard
;_;
>>157919627
French have site with characters. You could use one as base. Check RevO pasta.
>>157919484
>not knowing of the 50 years of rape
so will there be guilds in the closed beta for rev online? i bought a founders pack, mostly cause ive never been at the start of an mmo before so i want to experience this game from the start.
id also like to play with other users here. ill be rolling a healer. does this game have any kind of launcher or friend list/social kinda thing? im looking around their website and dont see one. would be nice to find some people to play with right when the game launches
>>157920239
We still don't know who's going to create a guild.
>He plays as a healer
Aha ahahaha what a loser!
>>157920239
>newfag:the post
If this is a bait then it's a good one.
>>157919484
anon...
>tries to recreate DN Journey to the West Ripper
>looks like garbage
why is it so hard to make the guys look east asian and so hard to make the girls look like anything not-eastern asian
>>157921417
>>157912578
>>157913234
I played PSO2 for like 3 years and I had somewhere around 2,000 - 3,000 hours playtime. Why is it bad for him to findan addiction through his PS4?
>>157918112
Occultist are absolute shit in PvE, but in PvP they are the gods when spec'd correctly. They require a lot of dedication and hard work if you want to be a good Occultist in both PvE and PvP that is worth it.
>>157921813
how are their heals, pve and pvp? i read they can definitely not be a true healer, right? are their offheals useful?
>>157921965
My first line states that they are garbage for PvE and the rest is talking about a high level occultist who understand the class and is fully spec'd. Nowhere did I say they are the best at healing.
>>157922140
i didnt say you said they were best at healing, i was asking about their heals.
>>157921813
Would be good to have something like spec tabs, to change spec when doing pve or pvp.
>>157922269
They're the same as everyone else has said, that's why they are shit at PvE content early on and up until they are spec'd. They're heals don't heal enough to be the single healer in the party. Think Mystic from Tera. They're more useful for buffs.
>>157922407
>Think Mystic from Tera. They're more useful for buffs.
ok thanks that makes sense.
Now I'm gonna make a cute grill to save too
This character creator it's good but a bit frustrating
>>157922462
Try making occ trap. Or male healer trap.
>>157922520
good idea
>>157922947
>>157923938
I can't wait to try Revo's character creation
>>157924415
what game is that
>>157924415
what ngame
>>157922407
>Think Mystic from Tera
sooo laughing stock and useless shit whose buffs cant stack with actual healer's buffs amirite
>>157923938
>>157924096
Good job Anon.
>>157924415
You could download CN client.
>>157924521
Occ buffs actually stack with Healers, great utility. But forget about healing in PvE and PVP. It's good enough for selfhealing in PVP if you spec correctly.
Can anyone tell me if respecing after 59 cost alot?
>>157924096
Last one rate my waifu
>>157924903
>>157924903
>doing CC with Chinese
you do know theres a english patch in the pastebin
>>157924903
reminds me of that twink male spiritshaper desu senpai
>>157925134
literally who
>>157925027
it's outdated and probably ded 4ever since russians have their own cbt
>>157925194
try to create spiritshaper and pick biggest man
>>157924496
>>157924497
It's Riders of Icarus
>>157924646
I could but the Beta is soon
>>157925949
>I could but the Beta is soon
Damn we gonna spend first week of beta in character creator m8.
I'm going to make 50 traps
This CBT will literally be dedicated to create the perfect character for the launch
Anyone want to use me to get a referral bonus for Twin Saga's private server?
>>157928354
I thought about playing it, so maybe?
>>157927787
Did you like my trap anon?
>>157923938
>>157924096
>>157927787
wanna be trap boyfriends and dominate the pvp ladder while occasionally going outside and PK literally everyone until we get to be known as the gay traps of doom?
>>157929553
>/revog/ partyhttps://exhentai.org/g/581580/634d1ab6dd/
>>157929553
Whats this game?
Looks like a Tree of Savior rip-off.;_;
>>157930308(you)
>>157930172
Why yes, yes I do very much
>>157930004
Yeah its pretty good. I'm glad this character creation let's us go full homo.
I'm not going for that style specifically but I like it, so we even have variety of trap styles.
>>157924903
Cute boy.
>>157930610
Isn't this saying for bullying lewd lolis?
I don't even anymore.
I DONT THINK I CAN LAST 5 MORE DAYS WHEN ARE THEY AT LEAST RELEASE PRELOAD
reminder to bath eat and sleep well these 5 days for the best possible physical form
>>157932319
I have no idea why you guys are making seem like Revelation is a big game changer.
>>157930610
Thank I guess, I actually wanted her to look sightly boyish because the character creator makes it way too easy to make an elegant and feminine lady so I tried to see how much I coukd deviate but keep her cute
>>157930172
I want this too
captcha related
>>157932474
Pretty sure he didn't mean it like that.
But it is a pretty big game changer for me at least
>>157932649
>But it is a pretty big game changer for me at least
Why though?
So any of you by chance also happen to be killing time on that allods sky pirates game?
>>157933042
Solid game with PK.
The traps are a plus too, I don't have to play female characters and pretend I'm a tranny now.
>>157933186
>Solid game with PK.
You do know you're penalized for doing that outside of War, right?
>>157933302
Yes, that's the good thing.
PK without a good karma system is shit.
They are using the Lineage 2 system which is the best one ever made.
Do you not like it?
>>157917116
>>157917438
I hope Xian remembers her atleast
>>157933408
You PK three times and you're basically worthless then.
>>157933302
You want unpenalized PK? Puting aside the people complaining about getting ganked, it is objectively bad because it removes the whole "moral" dilemma behind PKing.
Without penalties people would just kill each other behind much thought put into it because it's just a game.
But becoming a "red" player is something that people don't want so now if you are thinking about killing anyone there better be a good reason behind it or maybe you hate each other too much.
Or maybe you are such a fucking massive asshole that wants to ruin people's day so bad that you don't care about the penalties, thus basically becoming the villian.
These things would be worthless and mindless without good penalties.
>>157933963
No, I'm wondering why people are excited fro a PK system when you are severely punished for doing so out of War.
>>157934213
Are you fucking dense
>>157934213
I want to be a villian and deal with the harsh penalties.
The penalties make being the villian actually exciting. I wouldn't even kill people if there wasn't any.
Does anyone want to marry me in Revelation?
>>157933439
The Adventurers and certainly Iona will remember her, probably Stella too
She choose to work without getting many people of the timeline involved as possible, she may not be in history books
bump .
>>157922520
>occ trap
>you always turn into a woman when using angel form even as a male character
Whewh. Why boys are best girls.
Would SS tank be PvP viable?
Does it have good CC or something?
I don't think breasts are supposed to look like this.
>>157938221
What the hekk have you done
Are there any subscription MMOs that don't have the P2W shop bullshit anymore?
>>157938221
Yes. The largest size will look awkward in about half the costumes in the game, but then some feel like they're made for that size. But that outfit? It looks awkward in general.
Occultist confirmed best class. We beaters now.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU4MDE5NDg1Mg==.html?beta&
>>157938221
>>157938382
It's only for that costume that the maximum breast size has that particular issue. I've tried all of the other costumes with the large female build and only a handful of them didn't fit well or had clippings.
>>157939105
I really hope not, I want to be a special snowflake.
>>157938351
I think Dofus is still sub based with no shop. I could be wrong though.
>>157938351
WoW
>>157940310
>>157940476
Welp. Anything sandboxy?
>>157940545
nope
>>157939889
>only a handful of them didn't fit well or had clippings
You really need to look below the breasts to notice the issues. The breasts kind of clip through the clothing.
Revo does not have enough lewd outfits. Shit game.
>>157940957
play male occul for the extra lewd
>>157940827
Unless you look closely those clippings are quite negligible. Even the medium and small builds have their own clippings but its just more obvious with the large build.
>>157941429
>but its just more obvious with the large build.
Well, that's what we're talking about, right? Largest female frame and largest chest creates clipping issues with the breasts and clothing, but not really at all with smaller ones.
>>157938351
Final Fantasy XI.
>>157940545
eve
>>157944932
>eve
>not maximum p2w
>>157945156
bring at least one example
>>157945156
Never played Eve but I though the game was about the market and the cash shop didnt matter
>>157946816
>not spending 28k to max out your character
>>157946880
>Never played Eve but I though the game was about the market and the cash shop didnt matter
You can literally buy:
- in game money (which allows you to buy any item you want)
- characters with any skillset you want
For real money. So... yeah. It's just a hobby for people with a shitload of money and nothing smarter to spend on, and you can guess what kind of playerbase that is. It's terrible.
Isn't there some currency you can buy with cash to get anything on Eve
>>157947353
Yes, see >>157947313
Why is everyone playing Revo?
I looked at screenshots and it's literally Blade and Soul. It doesn't even try and pretend it's not.
Is it just because it's new? I know MMO players aren't the smartest, but...
>>157948270
>Is it just because it's new?
Yeah
>>157948270
But we're not playing it.
>>157948270
>It doesn't even try and pretend it's not.
Well yeah it's no secret it's the chinese attempt at competing with BnS.
But it plays nothing like it. It's nothing like BnS aside from its art style.
>>157948270
You're not wrong. But basically because it's new
>>157948270
It's only bns on the surface, it plays different from bns. Still shit though, but might as well hop on the bandwagon while it still has that brand new mmo smell.
>>157950106
I would, but it doesn't look new... That's kinda half the point lost right there.
>>157950294
New to the west.
>>157939105
i thought they were supposed to be subpar
did they patch it?
>>157947206
>>157947313
dumb
you can do this in any mmo
eve lets you fuck over and loot maxed shits with month-old hobo
truly the best of it's kind
>>157950886
gear makes him less subpar
but compared to gunslinger it's still subpar, in fact any other dps is subpar to gunslinger who knows his shit
>>157950886
It's not that they are shit or amazing. They have lower dps than typical dps class (gunner) but they have way more utility, such as heals/dmg reduction. Some upgrades can boost healing skills by 50%, it's not enough to be main heal but as you can see it's enough to selfheal in PvE.
>>157950969
>you can do this in any mmo
Except in MMOs that don't sell their own fucking currency, and don't have a completely free-for-all sociopathic neoliberal economy like EVE. And the ones that don't sell their own fucking characters.
In before LEL U CAN BUYE ALL DAT FROM LE CHINEZES, you can kill a person IRL too but it's still fucking illegal.
>>157950969
>eve lets you fuck over and loot maxed shits with month-old hobo
No it doesn't.
And even if it did, guess what, the P2W guy has unlimited ships at his disposal, while you have just one.
>>157951242
>In before LEL U CAN BUYE ALL DAT FROM LE CHINEZES
Not him but doesn't really matter how much you "in before", doesn't make it untrue.
>>157948270
>it looks like
yeah but it plays nothing like it
Do you rate games based on their looks?
Besides BnS is complete shit, an excuse for an mmo it's more like a fighting game but shitty and with cooldowns and with gear restrictions and not even open world.
>>157948270
>Is it just because it's new?
yes, for me at least. there is nothing else to play out there
>>157948270
Blade and Soul has optional open world pvp where the retards can opt out of it, making it literally pointless
It's garbage.
Ranking up Fighter skills is awful. This is going to take a while. The quest line itself took way too long also.
is anyone from here still playing dragon nest?
is there a guild?
>>157953381
Just look up NFA and join it. I think it's in the pastebin.
>>157953251
The quest line is bs but it's worth it for kungfu.
>>157953234
>optional open world pvp
>have to do faction shit if you want to get upgrade mats
>optional
>>157953878
At that point just fucking add upgrade mats in the arenas, why is it even on the open world if there's nothing differencing it from the other modes and it's consensual
It's completely pointless
>>157953381
Join NEET, we have plenty of helpful players gearing up for nests and stuff
>>157953878
If you are not up for it you can just not do it now and doing it later. That sounds quite optional to me as opposed to Revelation where any nigga can come and fuck your shit up.
>>157954268
>two guilds
For what purpose? Last time I was on the NFA was not full.
>>157954090
>and it's consensual
>mfw non-consensual is best~
>>157955325
Go away dumb elinposter.
>>157950969
>eve lets you fuck over and loot maxed shits with month-old hobo
>thinking he can gank anything with a month old shitter to make it worth while in high sec
>thinking he can solo pvp another character with max fitting and ship skills with a month old shitter in low sec
>thinking he can get loot from null sec fleet ops with a month old shitter
No you don't fuck over maxed shits, maxed shits fuck over you. As a month old shitter you're a literal nobody, and if you piss the wrong people off maxed shits will push your shit in so far you can't even play the game.
>>157953750
>>157954268
>NFA
>NEET
Not again
>>157955325
>>157951406
>>157955484
drink bleach shitters
t. podded slaveset owner in two week rifter gang event
>>157955520
Most /vg/ guilds are called NFA it's been going on for years.
>>157948270
It has a ton of features BnS doesn't have, including gathering and crafting, trading, housing, ridiculously extensive guild content, sieges etc.
It's a worse looking BnS, with mediocre but not bad combat and tons of (more) content.
>>157955947
Yea, but DFO's NFA is a joke tho. And I thought that was a /jp/ thing.
>>157955980
Giving them more (you)s
>>157954268
>>157953750
>two guild on a ded gaem
classic /vg/
>>157948270
>>157949124
>>157955980
why in the ninety fucked hells are we even comparing bns with clearly wow\l2\aion ripoff
IT HAS NOTHING IN COMMON
>>157955183
Oh sorry, we're a /vg/ guild from another game that recently picked up DN, didn't know NFA was a thing here
We're close to reaching the t1 guild event threshold
>>157954090
its not even "open world" because channels
the two factions never have to meet
>>157953251
>>157953862
What? The quest line was fun. But maybe because I liked the blue haired chick.
Then I got cucked and she was stolen from me and got the girl with glasses instead.
>>157956235
it's bait set by bnstards
>>157956160
Look it up mate. NFA has been a thing for /v/ and or /vg/ guilds. Most of the games I played has NFA as the name of the guild. Just to list a few. Elsword , Tera MT, DFO, and DN.
Kritika is pretty fun. Simplistic, but fun. No pugilist kinda bums me out though.
>>157956192
>DN
>dead
You wat mate?
It's alive after it go away from Nexon and went back to eye.
>>157956297
Are you me?
I was aiming for busty blondie, but she was stolen from me and I ended up with Cecilia.
>>157956265
Well I'm see if pastebinanon can put you in the OP so others can join both.
>>157953878
Doesn't matter when every server has one faction that dominates so you rarely ever see the other.
How fast can you level in Kritika?
>watching RevO vids
>this Occ healing in PvP
>actually doing good job
Y'all memeing or never played.Probably both.
>>157948270
>>157949124
It's more like Korea tried to do a Chinese game, because half the games in China have that style, and have had that style way before Blade and Soul was ever conceived.
Not like you even seriously looked at the game anyway. Here's your (You).
>>157959079
They only talk about PvE here when talking shit.
Of course betas don't play PvP.
>>157959335
Who the fuck cares about PvE in MMO.
>>157959670
I mean, I don't play MMOs BECAUSE of the PvE, but I don't think I would play an MMO without PvE at all.
I love grinding, man.
>>157959281
Why're you quoting me?
I wasn't even trying to say they're the same, just that they're visually similar and that's where it ends.
And I've played more than enough of the game on CN too.
>>157959670
>caring about pvp in mmos
kek
>>157959670
>>157960157
i just like mmos that focus on fun things to do with friends, which can be pve, pvp, or some other bullshit
>>157959957
That's not what i mean.
Grinding at weekdays to get money for gear and restock consumables so you can pvp with guild during the weekend.
>>157960157
Fite m.. oh wait. Sorry man.
>>157960260
>Gear matters in pvp.
Get that shit out of here.
>>157960445
Welcome to RevO.
Go back to your Overwatch.
>>157960445
t. mobatard
>>157960445
"hyper-balanced pvp" is fucking cancer in mmos and needs to be done away with
there are plenty of other games out there for "comptitive" experiences
why is it so scary of an idea to have someone who gets a really good weapon be really good in pvp, everyones always sperging out about muh-muh fairness and balance muh normalized stats muhmuh
http://ro.mmo-fashion.com/
>>157960724
they dont list anything for males on this website?
My friend is telling me it doesn't matter if I play 2 hours a day or 16 hours a day for revo since there's limited exp per day or some shit and gear holds you back
is that true? The fuck am I going to do make alts?
>>157960912
>males
lmoa
>>157960157
What's wrong with that?
What other genre lets me play guild vs guild in an open world and being able to go 100 vs 100 and feel such a big sense of camaraderie?
>>157960260
>Grinding at weekdays to get money for gear and restock consumables so you can pvp with guild during the weekend.
Are you saying this is a good thing or bad thing?
I've been doing that for years in Ragnarok andI love it.
I love all kinds of PvE though.
>>157960445
I think gear shouldn't matter in arenas but it should matter in open world PvP. Different kind of competition.
>>157960993
Yes it's true.
You can only make 2 characters per week.
>>157960912
Seems like they're missing quite a bit.
>>157960993
Grind Reputation and cheevos! Decorate your house! PvP! Uhm, hang out?
>>157960647
>>157960686
>Overwatch and Mobas
Those are shit too.
>>157960719
I really enjoy Dragon Nest's equalized pvp
>>157960993
>>157961059
So it's the fatigue system from FFXIV 1.0?
>>157961032
gvg is the only meaningful pvp in mmos, and its not about any kind of mechanics, but social organisation
>>157961059
what the fuck
why would you make an mmo that doesn't reward autism grinding
>>157961237
>gvg is the only meaningful pvp in mmos
That's your opinion.
>>157959079
Could you post the link so others can watch. Thanks in advance.
>>157961249
There's autism grinding, but not for leveling. They really put an emphasis on the other features of the game.
>>157961249
You can grind money and materials, don't worry too much really
>>157961417
so everyone is going to hit the same highest level peaks at the same time unless someone could spend a few hours one day?
What kind of autism grinding can I do? Anything to make my character stronger?
>>157961489
ah this is what I like to hear, do you mean gear materials or crafting/misc materials?
>>157961567
Basically, yeah, if everyone levels the same way. There's going to be people stopping at certain points to spend XP to customize their skills or finish gearing up. There's still mobs you can kill for XP, and you can get XP via PvP, but it's not a significant amount. I suppose if you were the Lord of Autism, you could gain an advantage by doing that though.
>>157962108
What do you mean stopping? Wouldn't the guy grinding mobs/mats get way ahead of people that just do the basic leveling
>>157959079
You probably haven't played. Occ healing is to give you that edge in PVP because a regular healer is far overkill for the amount of damage players throw around in PVP encounters.
In PVP, Spiritshaper is mostly for the debuff protection. Occ being able to heal is an excellent bonus to a very good hybrid class.
>>157962259
Stopping the leveling process to convert leveling XP to points you can use to customize your skills. This is mandatory for some classes, and everyone will do it at some point or another. I don't understand what you mean. They can still get mats, it's just that they aren't gaining character levels anymore.
>>157960993
Carefully roleplay out your 973 page cuck erp fantasy with your 'wife' ingame.
>>157962536
>it's just that they aren't gaining character levels anymore
oh okay i gotchu so the guy who autism grinds exp can decide whether or not he wants to level up or power up his skills before the people who just do regular leveling
What level do you need to stop at to customize shit? I would assume just going straight to cap without stopping would be better but I hear that dungeons scale to your level
>>157959670
>Who the fuck cares about PvE in MMO.
People who like the MMORPG aspect of the MMO?
Frankly, I don't get why people care about PVP in the MMORPG. It's extremely dodgy combat based on luck that plays into server latency with extremely minuscule assistance from gear that almost everyone has anyway. Most pvpers just spend tons of real life money to get even the slightest edge on either randomized real-world encounters or sterile arena fights where the gear is normalized anyway.
And if you're building a character just to fight in the normalized arenas anyway, why are you playing an MMORPG? Go get a game like Rune or Chivalry if you want to watch medieval fantasy characters bash each other's skulls in, and you wouldn't even have to grind to play in those arenas.
I totally get it if you just enjoy the overworld stomps with completely random people under random conditions. It's a great bonus to building your character correctly. Saying 'Who the fuck cares about the vast majority of the combat and content in the genre that was made for co-op massive multiplayer." is just silly.
>>157962904
>Frankly, I don't get why people care about PVP in the MMORPG
Stopped reading, you are just as bad as him. Fuck off.
>>157962767
You should do it before level 60 if you're a Spiritshaper because of the cleanse ability that's mandatory for some dungeons. Don't really know about the other classes, though I imagine Vanguard has some mandatory stuff as well. You generally want to slow down at the end of the 50-59 bracket if you aren't geared by then, because the next bracket is difficult. You don't need perfect gear, just aim for a complete set if you can.
>>157912375
>Looking for another non-theme-parky MMORPG similar to the ones I mentioned.
I need something like that too fuck themeparks are just boring.
>>157961032
>What other genre lets me play guild vs guild in an open world and being able to go 100 vs 100 and feel such a big sense of camaraderie?
Almost any arena game on Steam.
Knock yourself out.
I can give you a few links to some if you would like.
I mean, there's Chivalry, Savage, EVO, Guns of Icarus, Evolved 2. I could keep going.
The best thing about those games is that all you have to do is click 'Play now', and you're instantly fighting a large-scale battle without having to do any grinding beforehand. Plus, you're guaranteed to be starting on the same foot as your opponent.
>>157963240
thanks
so I'll be bum rushing to 59 while trying to keep everything up to date then I'll use all my exp towards skills or whatever while grinding mats/gear
sounds like a plan
>>157963362
>The best thing about those games is that all you have to do is click 'Play now', and you're instantly fighting a large-scale battle without having to do any grinding beforehand.
That is exactly the opposite of building a camarederie with your guild.
That's literally just mindless killing with no hate, drama or memories to be made behind it.
>>157912375
>>157963281
http://www.playdnl.com/ should be coming out soon, and it's a sandbox. Revelation has some sandbox elements (like AA), but it's not a full sandbox. Themebox? Sandpark? >>157844421 has more information on that. Then there's Albion https://albiononline.com/en/home
>>157963049
>I can't argue with you, but fuck off.
Wowie, great post champ.
If your point is that both sides have merit, then that's fine. I find assholes who gloat because of how much better they are than the PvE crowd for spending real-world money to get that little edge in the PVP of a game that relies mostly on random circumstance to be fools.
Trying to play one part of the game world against the other is how retard guilds fulls of rejects like Aphotic get formed. NFA is usually better than that, overall.
>>157962579
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>>157963548
>If your point is that both sides have merit, then that's fine.
That is exactly my point.
MMOs are great for both PvE and PvP. I don't even like separating them in the first place.
>>157963521
thanksKguya>mokou
>>157963602
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>>157963501
>That is exactly the opposite of building a camarederie with your guild.
>That's literally just mindless killing with no hate, drama or memories to be made behind it.
Great, but how does that separate from PvE? You can get the same experience there, too.
Not exactly a compelling argument for why PvP is superior to PvE.
I'm not even sure I would count 'Drama' and 'Hate' as positives. Half of the /vg/ guilds I've been eventually dissolve into multiple guilds specifically because of Drama caused by hatred of people from PvP. ToS split into, no kidding, six to eight guilds specifically because of how people approached the PVP content in that game.
No one knows how to have fun anymore and laugh at the wins and losses.
>>157956431
>DFO
>NFA main guild
you don't play DFO do you?
>>157963983
>Not exactly a compelling argument for why PvP is superior to PvE.
And literally where did I say that?
>>157963983
i think the players are to blame here, not the game mechanics. if someone acts like theyre superior cause theyre better at pvp or pve, it does not have much to do with the game. some people are just assholes,
especially 4chan guilds. not to say everyone in them is an asshole or memespouting person, but youre more likely to see that stuff in 4chan guilds
>>157963983
>Half of the /vg/ guilds I've been eventually dissolve into multiple guilds specifically because of Drama caused by hatred of people from PvP.
He obviously means drama between guilds, not drama between guild members.
>ToS split into, no kidding, six to eight guilds specifically because of how people approached the PVP content in that game.
More like because they are small as fuck
>>157964130
If that wasn't the point of your first post, then I guess you didn't.
>>157964247
Anywhere there are PvP and 'hardcore' guilds, there is drama exactly like that. The two go hand-in-hand.
But the difference is: You can't really have PvP without having some of those kinds of shitters. You can have PvE with a whole guild of people not taking it seriously. PvP is harder to implement that way specifically because of the mechanics involved.
>>157964442
Then don't join a PvP guild
>Not calculating optimal stat distribution to maximize your output
C'mon, where are your spreadsheets and info about stats.
>>157964920
I'm not a DPS. I will have you know that I am a tank.
While you pencilnecks are hammering away at how to maximize your damage, I'm dumping every point I get into the fat stat while going "HURR TWIENKTY ME DUMBLE DUMB FIDDLE MY NUTS AND COOKIE CRUMBS" while mashing 1 and 2 (I literally do not know how to press any other number on my keyboard) and bashing my face against a breezeblock I have strategically placed near my desk.
If I'm ever not mashing one or two, it's because I'm watching American Football in the television tuned to the American Football channel which is required to be installed in every American home. The whole time I am screaming "AHAHAHA HE CAUGHT THE BAW" while rolling on items that I have no functional use for.
>All this PvP talk
Since when did /vg/ mmo general get so edgy?
>>157965381
>Dumping everything into one stat.
>In RevO
Haha.
>>157965639
Cuteposters are asleep! Quickly, post some theorycrafting!https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rrJOLoJsO-Cqgo7BPZ8YZFFyq6JM9BWQRf2Rgv3tXTY/edit#gid=448077723
>>157965639
I don't think you can have an NFA without PVP unless the system is really shit.
>>157965639
>pvp is edgy now
holy shit
>>157965763
Huh. Thanks for this!
say something nice to Tinky!
>>157968185
He's a cute boy.
>>157968185You will die and no one will ever know you existed
>>157959670
A better question would be who the fuck cares about PvP in an MMO. If you want quality PvP then play a RTS or MOBA or FPS or something built specifically for that. MMO PvP is either a retarded gankfest or a rotating FotM number simulator.
>>157967014
Not him, but it's normally just harmless fun up until you get that one asshole who takes it far too seriously.
>Haha fucking REKT KID, YOU MAD? YOU JELLY? YOU BUTTJELLY? now that I've SHIT in your MOUTH I'm gonna send you to a camp and let you get burned in the ovens you fucking NIGGER
And yes, NFA typically has one or two people just like that no matter what game it is. Or, alternatively, they fight people just like that who proceed to make the game completely unfun because NFA can't go without taking the bait.
>>157965381
>HURR TWIENKTY ME DUMBLE DUMB FIDDLE MY NUTS AND COOKIE CRUMBS
>>157965381
Dude, we should fucking hang out, cause you're talking my language!
>>157970768
>Dude, we should fuck
i agree
>>157970768
You bring the beer and I'll bring the metal pots we wear on our heads when we bash them together.
Is this RevO chinese only? Will it continue being CN only?
>>157972821
NA CBT next tuesday
>>157973080
>spine surgery next week
Fuck. I'll miss the opening.
>>157973080
Then I'll start playing tuesday and get someone here to be my master and teach me everything.
>>157973874
That sounds painful, what happened?
So what the fuck is the point of transforming into mobs in some of the dungeons in revo? Kill botters? You move slow as fuck, only have one slow as fuck attack, and the fucker regens faster than you can bring him down.
>>157973969
Scoliosis surgery. They're adding stuff to my spine to make it straight.
>>157974223
yeah actually it's to kill botters
>>157955947
In my days they were called vidyagaems
Let's play a game, list /vg/ guild names and let others guess what game they're from.
I'll start:
SadPandas
Pay2Win
>RevO has open world pvp
And dropped, I though this was a comfy game
I don't wanna put up with edgy 14 years old and latency issues
>>157974774
:^)
>>157974774
>comfy XD
>>157974774
B-but it'll be like in my animes! I'll pay high level players to be my bodyguards while I collect medicinal herbs! We'll have long drawn out dialogues with "red players" before engaging in epic battles of strategy!
>>157974774
That's a...new complaint, at least.
>>157975058
>replying to yourself
>>157974774
>comfy
good riddance, aspie
go talk on /v/ about le epik comfy games and friday night threads where you blog
>>157975058
>animes
>>157974774
>ganks you in the middle of a quest
psssh... nothing personnel... kid...
>>157975118
It's sure fun to PvP people teleporting everywhere
>>157975381
>>157975118
>>157975058
>>157975080
>>157975018
>>157974934
Baited for these exact replies
>>157974774
>he thinks 14 years play RevO or any MMO in 2016
>>157975439
Do you live in Australia or something?
>>157975058
oh god are you going to start calling people kirito again you turbo autist
>>157975469
what do they play?
>>157975641
>he thinks he'll be just like Kirito with his sooper speshul leveling shortcuts and dominate the pvp scene
>>157975469
>he doesn't know Pinoys and BRs
They don't even have access to video games except f2p MMOs and love getting into NA servers because it's hip and cool to piss off Americans
>>157975469
I started playing EverQuest when I was 10 or 11. ;_;
>>157975724
>he thinks I won't
psh
>>157975728
BRs play on NA because they have no servers at least most of the time there isn't a south american server in mmos
>>157974774
Just don't aggro, it's not like it's forced.
It's as consensual ashand holding
>ToS bullying by BRs got so bad IMC had to make a Latinamerican server
BRs are cancer
>>157975641
Not him, but aren't you the guy who said you were going to find all the secret leveling paths because you read a shitpost on the my.com forums by a nobody chink?
>>157975936
B-but what if he forcefully grabs my hand, and intertwines his fingers with mine and doesn't let go!
>>157976120
Give him a kiss then, you hand-slut.
>>157976018
and they still won't leave. Even after a free transfer.
I fucking hate BRs so fucking much. They always ruin everything.
>>157976076
Yeah dude
I'm going to find all the secret leveling paths by not staying at 49
>>157976242
>I'm going to cripple myself by leveling to max and then not having enough money to advance.
>It's a secret technique passed down to me by ancient chinese shitposter called 'I bet dumb round-eyes will fall for it if I post it on the my.com forums'.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
>>157975058
>tfw the head developer will never recognize you as the fastest player in-game and give you a Unique Skill
>>157975704
Xbox One.
>>157975728
Who engages themselves with BRs????????
>>157975829
>2016
>>157976341
Not him, but you can go past 49 and be OK. Not optimal, but OK. It's the 60+ brackets that you need to gear for.
>>157976353
They totally wouldif we were Korean or ChineseSince we're filthy gweilo, they have nothing but disdain for us
Are there any MMOs that let you play as non-humanoids? I want to level a slime.
>>157976448
no dude the devs AND CN play testers said overleveling is bad so....stick around at 49/59 and get perfect gear otherwise you wont be able to progress lolmeanwhile all the competent guilds rush to 60
People watch shit anime like SAO?
ew
NEW BREAD WHEN
>>157976646
I would make one but I'm playing Overwatch.
>>157976597
>Ranked #785
>Popularity #3
nah
>>157976589
Well, if you go past 60 in quest gear, you are fucking yourself. I assume most people thought that dude was going to rush to 79 without worrying about skill morphing or gear.
>>157976589
>All the competent guilds that use alts to farm money and materials rush to 60 so I can too on my new character!
L e o l
I'm not getting in this shitflinging contest with you again, because it's clear that you never leveled up your int stat IRL. but I'll post some food for thought for you.
>>157844918
>>157847719
If you still think it's a good idea after looking at the hard numbers and realizing that the scaling is exponential, and that you will be mechanically fucked in every hole if you try leveling to max; then you're an idiot.
Don't bring this retardation to the next thread. Every time you do you just prove to everyone how stupid you are.
>>157976597
Since you didn't watched that shit, the the summary is Kirito had a shortcut because it was created specifically as an easter egg by a lonesome autist fishing for a pity buttfuck.