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>>157319982
I'd like to note that Abyssus also likely adds more damage than Aspect of Carnage.

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2rd for kiwis.

>>157318153
putting aside for a moment 79 points isn't nearly enough to for a planned tree, I don't like your pathing at all

a) don't skip the Ranger starting projectile nodes, 26% proj damage and 4% as is more value for 2 points than most other clusters
b) don't skip jewel nodes, 7% life 1x proj jewels are cheap
c) don't skip Primal Spirit, it's one of the best Ranger notables, gives you 20 INT and 20% flask charges gained.
d) Aspect of the Eagle -> Aspect of the Lynx are incredibly efficient, let alone for an ELE bow build
e) Revenge of the Hunted if definitely not worth it
f) Essence Sap is not worth it imo, Duelist leech luster is enough for everything and efficient due to being dual leech
h) you want CRIT. this is true whether you're phys or ele. don't skip Heartseeker of King of the Hill. Forces of Nature might look good with 6% pen and 40% WED but it doesn't really matter if you lack crit in the first place, I would not rush to it, plys if you're Pathfinder you get 10% pen from your Ascendancy already

here's my 79-pt tree, with an unfilled scion life wheel to fill later at your convenience

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAABeCC4NjRmOI_YwfD7PR35KfU2SUUdbr2VNfXWHdo19jb-bjaOK7T-9Nr3mvqc31NN-1CMB0eOf7YPuDu96_MWPYP66r-tOKiPTTeP-j0z_dcvqYkMxjX7awXTtBS0uU9NvwzNaGmJaJJ3nVCT9_963toTZIXaGzsEzAdx346luwBp4DbXyNZLYvW87bIxirLTFwuwFtQzypct6752q

and 20 points later:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAABeCC4NjRmOI_YwfD7PR35KfU2SUUdbr2VNfXWHdo19jb-bjaOK7T-9Nr3mvqc31NN-1CMB0eOf7YPuDu96_MWPYP66r-tOKiPTTeP-j0z_dcvqYkMxjX7awXTtBS0uU9NvwzNaGmJaJJ3nVCT9_963toTZIXaGzsEzAdx346luwBp4DbXyNZLYvW87bIxirLTFwuwFtQzypct6752qfys51Hb3MfqgnzY962MRLysKXfKexKa-VEeMNlVLYeImlRa_Ax4fQQ==

haven't played a ranger in a while, so take this with a grain of salt

What is the point of ES/Armour or ES/Evasion items?

Seems like that not doubling down on one type of mitigation is a mistake.

>>157320621
ES/AR has the niche use of providing both armour and ES buffer for Aegis builds. It's mostly subpar otherwise, except for easy coloring if you use B and R gems

ES/EVA builds can work if you're hybrid/Trickster. Evasion and Enfeeble gives you the avoidance needed to let ES recharge kick in most of the time. You can get a lot out of a high roll ES/EVA shield with clusters like Nullification and Deflection. It's mostly subpar otherwise, except for easy coloring if you use B and G gems

If you convert the blunt trauma staff cluster to ranged bonuses via lioneye's fall, does the knockback on crit while wielding a staff become knockback on crit while wielding a bow?

>>157320918
yes

>CWDT wont cast orb of storms

why

Post some Atziri pictures

If I want a really strong build that I can do shaper successfully with what do you guys recommend? I see blade vortex is really strong at the moment, is anything else?

>>157321282
the skill has a special bs restriction that it cant be casted from traps/mines/triggers

>>157321282
too useful of a spell to be automated

>>157321398
whispering ice and poison barrage are two other strong candidates

mostly you want either facetanking leech dps or high dps + manual dodging

I just found my first exalted

it dropped from a white mob in dried lake while I was playing in an easy zone to get over the lag I get after just starting the game

>>157321635
What's whispering ice?

>>157321854
Are you serious? wiki it, but if you're unaware of what it is, asking for a shaper viable build is way too early for you

What's even the point of having resistances if the game is going to be balanced around you always having them capped?

>>157322682
because minus max maps exist
because flasks exist
because purities exist
because rotp/aegis exist

>>157321840
I've had three exalt drops this league, they all came from random barrels and chests.

Remember to break every barrel and open every chest, exiles.

>>157321840
i got 3 exalt drops in sc and 2 in hc, usually i've gotten like one or two per league

How does this look for a Doomfletch's Prism build? Planning on using Lioneye's Fall jewels to convert the staff and melee crit nodes to bow nodes so I can have a decent crit rate. I'm thinking of going inquisitor for the penetration.
poeurl.com/OsJ

>make a 220% life 75% block build in perandus
>pretty proud of the tree, refined it a lot
>pathfinder can just use 1 flask slot an a 25% block chance shield to get to 70% block/60% spell block
so when is ggg removing unique flasks

>Halfway through the Labyrinth
>An unexpected disconnection has occurred!
Is this shit even worth doing? Random FPS drops and traps are not fun.

>>157323235
necro can do that too without flasks

>>157323176

there is some weird pathing going on (near the templar start) and you aint grabbing IG for no real reason (going instead for the celestial noobtrap)

>>157323235
Why do you fill Elementalist cluster? Why not connect to the Marauder through the DEX node and grab Precision for much needed accuracy while you're at it? Why not Iron Grip for 3 points when you have 300+ STR already? That's 20% damage per node you're for some reason skipping.

>>157323826
I forgot Iron Grip was a thing. I haven't played in a minute, and last I did the celestial cluster was hot shit. Is it worth dropping in favor of iron grip and the life nodes next to it?

>>157323235
i want this "flask build" bullshit to end so i don't have to pay 100c for a single flask

Would Punishment buff my ancestral warchief? I can't really tell.

>>157324004
>>157323826
Would something like this be better?
poeurl.com/OsP

>>157322682
because without them poe's itemization would be even worse

>>157324025
>Is it worth dropping in favor of iron grip and the life nodes next to it?

considering you are already hanging out in the right side of the tree, and ig scales your proj phys damage, which all your ele damage scales from, id say yes

>>157324256
are you going to use a str-to-dex jewel or something? you have nowhere enough for a level 20 SA

>>157322682
GGG would have to make new interesting suffixes then.

>>157323552
Yes the lab is worth doing, but don't do normal/cruel labs until you hit dried lake merc. Then you can just absolutely blow through them easy as hell.

Think I'm taking a break. Armor doesn't do shit unlesss you stack ungodly amounts of it, es is top tier and everything involving it is ludicrously expensive, only one chest in the game is good for health builds and costs an obsecene amount of money, pathfinder ascendency lets you stack damage+crit damage and tones of ehp while having max block, every build in the game doesn't work unless it's a totem, blade vortex, or one of the other two meta builds.

This game flaunts variety and depth, but it's really full of one shots, and the only way to beat anything is to break the game entirely, till they patch the meta and subsequently break it.

>>157325057
ES gear is not that expensive. I have 7.9k ES and I spent maybe 10c total on my armor set.

>>157324570
Rad, thanks.

>>157324593
I'd just stack it on gear. Maybe grab expertise or use a level 15 SA if I somehow can't meet the requirement.

>>157325057
Layering defenses has always been the name of the game... people stack armour and armour only then get surprised they get blown up eventually. One-shots that are not easily avoided don't exist.

>>157325057
>every build in the game doesn't work unless it's a totem, blade vortex, or one of the other two meta builds
That's to be expected considering most endgame encounters are about dodging shit flying everywhere.

>>157325057
>only one chest in the game is good for health builds and costs an obsecene amount of money
lioneye's vision, brass dome, kaoms, queen of the forest, kintsugi, cospri's, belly of the beast, lightning coil, daresso's defiance, voll's protector, and carcass jack?

What's the best use for Jeweller's Touch?
Buying a good weapon/chest and 5L it for myself?
Buy a nicely rolled Belly or similar, 5L it and sell it for profit?
Just sell the Touch itself?

>>157325714
Either use it for the build you're running or sell it.

>>157325714
sell the prophecy

>>157325057
belly of the beast is really good man
i don't know why people dislike it so much

>>157325153
That's not gonna get you through endgame.
>>157325367
Except if you're running armor and hp, you're not going to be able to layer defenses, unles you buy very specific expensive pieces of armor, and then get block on top of that, and If you're using a shield it's "lol enjoy your nodamage"
>>157325515
Half of those aren't good enough on thier own and don't work unless you're stackingmultiple kinds of mitigation, which you can't do without having no damage. Which leaves lightning coil, Kaom's, kintsugi, and brass dome. All of which are obscenely expensive and require you to grind low level content till you puke to get the currency to get them.

You need at least 3 layered defnses to not get killed by bullshit, and also top end gear to do any sort of damage, unless you you totems. It's boring as fuck. If armor stacked easier and evasion wasn't attrition based, mayeb the game would be in a better place.

>>157326056
>8k hp is "not gonna get you through endgame"
i think you might be a bad player

>>157326056
For anything that isn't volatiles (dying to them is your own fault) or end end end game where things like Shaper slam you for 12k pre-mitigation, there's absolutely nothing wrong with life-based builds that stack mitigation/avoidance. If you're complaining "build diversity" doesn't exist at end end end game, not only is that wrong, it's also a moot complaint. The top builds that can complete top content always end up being only a handful that cost a lot to assemble.

>>157326056
kintsugi and lightning coil are both under 20 chaos

>require you to grind low level content till you puke to get the currency to get them
if you consider everything outside of t15s low level content then yeah i guess

game isn't perfect but your build is probably just shit if you're crying this much

Why are people overlooking shit like the essence that gives you 15% phys damage taken as cold? That's half a coil right there, with a 6L base that can be super cheap (2-3ex) and that you can essence spam for a solid chest with 100+ life, dual res, and ~500 less chromes needed to color?

>>157320621
ES gets such a stupid amount of ehp that it can actually afford to have some hybrid items mixed in (as long as their build doesn't depend on a bunch of non-ES uniques)

>>157326580
There hasn't been a streamer or reddit thread to advocate it.
There's a lot of stuff this patch that's ridiculous balance-wise, only is overlooked because most people just haven't given it any thought.

>>157326320
>>157326365
Not him, but the problem is you need 3k chaos worth of gear to even stand a chance against shaper. For anything else you can just faceroll with 10c gear budget.

>>157326913
>you need the most powerful gear to take on the most powerful boss
who would have thought.

>>157326365
>kintsugi and lightning coil are both under 20 chaos
if they don't have any sort of links. You need 5 links to do any kind of damage, and to buy that, or grind that takes ages.
>>157326320
How is it wrong when nearly everybuild doing any endgame content is a totem or blade vortex clone? Otherwise you're spending five times the time trying to catch up to these people and their insane damage + survivabiliy.

>>157326056
>That's not gonna get you through endgame.
even if that's true it can easily get someone far enough to acquire currency to buy better gear. As I said I invested 10c so far. since then i've saved up 150c. I can easily get my ES to 11k or more without that much investment.

>>157326913
How is 95% of the content being available to anyone experienced enough to make a decent build a "problem"? If you want to experience the last 5%, be prepared to make a more expensive build.

>>157326121
8k energy shield is not gonna do it, and niether is 8k hp. If it's not a meta build, you're not gonna be doing any damage.

Good luck when a server hiccups and you lose everything to some bullshit that you didn't even see.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQAAJstXzmK8MSC6Uawq76nZU29Nkd-dcvqYre2jX5DMdrBdO0FLXrvTP9OKiPTbyeaauCfBWZbryF2hs7BM4TvYSEaVTbohmAirzhTduc6UjJ-vJ8YkfxLFE0OPBRx2XyCB_jru-2RzuoYdqzPfvcykn3cI5hv5c9yqayqWfPtREou1YunpbyaQXLJZxo4kFUnL3IPZp760hZv42okqjbpHRSvjRps5CK1BEVHwGY8BZ_f73wEs6IA8B-tjfJBDY2HduOfSn2J2GhY15Y=

Planning to go 100% fire conversion doomfletch. Blast rain as main skill. Lioneye's fall between templar and marauder for crit chance (and take the mace wheel for more AoE post-80). Take champion for fortify or slayer for aoe (which is whay I'm starting duelist). Might pick up empires grasp and point blank for aoe vacuum. Probably use LC, might pick up IR to go with it.

>>157325026
I just unlocked cruel. My game crashed, though, so now I don't feel like playing.

>>157327038
You can buy a 5L prophecy for 25c. So a 5L coil will cost maybe 30c, 40c for EHC.

>>157327180
>Planning to go 100% fire conversion doomfletch.
but why

>>157327180
>Planning to go 100% fire conversion doomfletch
Why?

>>157327346
>>157327360
Why not? Seemed like a fun build concept.

>>157327328
since when is a 5link prophecy that cheap in standard? I only got one for that much in hardcore, in standard it was like fucking 40c

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>>157327476
It's been sitting at around 20c in sc since the league began.

>>157327434
You lose a lot of damage if you go AoF for no reason.

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>>157208413
>free
>>157213885
>free
>>157236512
>free
>>157291589
>free
>>157291816
>free
>>157302892
>free
>>157302919
>free
>>157306208
>free
>>157290757
>F R E E

>>157327643
no shit, last I checked it was double....weird.
>>157327668
Anyway to make AOF work then? Interested to see.

>>157327038
>you need 5 links to do any kind of damage
first of all it's really funny that you think you need 5 links to clear up to t9 maps
second of all 5 links are not very expensive either
you realize everyone in maps in every single league accrues enough currency to 5 link their stuff right
it's something that happens as you just play the game normally, you don't need a big expensive drop to get the 60-ish chaos required to buy and 5l a lightning coil

it sounds like you're a new player that fell for the dried lake meme rather than doing content that's actually fun and varied

I was thinking about switching to CI since I'm in that area as saboteur, but is CI fine without leech? I'd probably be relying on just vaal discipline but I'm not sure if that's enough.

>>157328080
It's fine. Anything that could kill you through 11k ES would kill you through 5k life and instant flasks.

>>157328080
go for bow + soul strike memes and you'll be fine

>>157328080
Personally I think having no life regen or leech is a bit scary, but it should be okay as a trapper.

>>157328080
Are you stupid or something? CI/ES based builds is the natural progression for witches/shadows. You have to go out of your way to make life work as a witch/shadow. Just because CI+VP is gamebreaking with the numbers you can pull nowadays doesn't change the fact that CI was originally meant to be a high buffer you could regen out of combat, which works particularly well for DoT/traps builds

>>157328418
>CI/ES based builds is the natural progression for witches/shadows.
because they either use a skill that works well with leech or they get something like wicked ward that makes regen'ing your energy shield a breeze. ES is strong as fuck but it doesn't just work right out of the gate nor is it hard to make a life build work on the right side of the tree.

That said, Saboteur does have the ascendancy points to make ES work by using blind + evasion to get your ES recharge to start working again. This makes maps with burning ground surprisingly dangerous for you as that degen will stop your ES from recharging.

poeurl.com/Os9

How's this for a CI trickster? Good? Was trying to get more es and frenzy charges, a nd the es nodes in the withc tree were too far out of my way.

does disabling multithreading helps with those heavy stutters when things go crazy ?

I have a good pc and the game actually runs better now in some parts, since they fixed the ground effects, but I now get stutter where it was fine before the patch and multithreading.

cpu is a 6600k so I doubt it will help tho

>>157329613
>poeplanner

>>157330778
>installing a north korean botnet on your computer

planner is literally perfect

>>157327668
Going AoF with CtF and CoB; I don't lose any damage and fire damage scales all of my damage.

post good boss killing spells on a 4 link

spark is losing its luster

I want to play a whispering ice build. Which class is better for it? Im leaning toward Templar at the moment.

Also, how expensive are they on average?

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>Perandus mobs spawn within range of the map start

>>157331108
nothing comes to mind if spark is your main skill, storm call is probably the best single target lightning skill but has no overlap with spark, let alone if you picked a duration cluster

>>157331108
vaal storm call?

>>157331189
Witch of Scion. Templar has nothing for WI. You don't want to go crit because crit nodes don't give Int. Go Scion with Heiro, Elementalist, and the first two nodes of Shadow for 80 extra int and 10% of your mana as ES (and you'll have a fuckhuge mana pool from all that Int your stacking.

Gearing isn't too expensive to get going, but "full build" gear is expensive as fuck. Astramentis should be your first buy after WI itself. Make sure to get a good %int roll on the WI, that's the most important stat. I'm sitting at around 8k ES at level 72 or so right now, with Astramentis being the only gear I've bought for more than a couple chaos. Only issue is that it's gonna start getting expensive to upgrade; gloves or boots with good res, 40 int, and 150+ ES aren't so cheap.

>>157331108
memechief totem

>>157328080
You can take the shield recharge cluster right next to CI if not having any source of leech scares you.

Why doesn't the elemental damage from Doomfletch's prisim show up in the tooltip?

Whats the PoE equivalent of those photos people take of themselves next to all their guns, money and shit?

>>157333819
tabs filled with chaos and ex orbs and shit. Or a mirror.

>>157333795
No clue. You do far more damage than you would ever need with enough flat phys on your gear, though. Just roll with it.

>>157333819
Posting a build guide on the official forums.

>>157333819
People who spam global with their rares or when they six link + corrupt a bunch of expensive uniques

>>157331189
Whispering Ice is cheap to get up and running, yet expensive to gear up for endgame. I poured about 750 chaos into my WI elementalist this league. For starting you'd want:
>5/6 socket Whispering Ice
>Astramentis
>Fertile Mind, Brute Force Solution

Guardian is more expensive, yet the pieces are actually readily available whenever you need them.

Other variants require you to find body armour, gloves, and boots with high ES, intelligence, and resistances on them. You're pretty much setting up item watches and waiting for these pieces to pop up, since they sell quickly unless they're overpriced. Add in a helmet as well if you want to elemental weakness cap, rather than using the Black Sun Crest.

>>157331662
I was checking out a guide that has witch Templar and scion on it. Says the witch can handle reflect maps the best so maybe will do that. They are all pretty similar I think. Mind linking your gear or something so I can see some stuff?

What are those files in Minimap folder in My Documents? Are they clogging my RAMs?

>>157334837
Would an 80 int amulet work well enough in pace of an astramentis while starting it out?

>>157335736
Yes, though your gems might be held up by their stat requirements until you get the Astramentis.

>>157334918
My gear is nothing special right now. Astra, WI, and Auxium chain belt, then ES, Int and res on everything else. Your longterm goal should be to get enough res on boots, gloves, and chest that you can run two perandus signets in your ring slots, and possibly eventually drop your helmet for dark sun crest.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/00zau/characters

>>157334837

i wouldnt say WI is cheap, specially this league for some all the WI gear skyrocketed in prices at some point

>>157335736
The main reason to use astramentis is that it removes the need for any str or dex on the tree, without costing you any dex on gear. If you can't afford one yet, go ahead and use a high-int ammy and take a coupld +30 nodes if you need them.

how hard should I try to get pack size in yellow maps? kinda seems stupid to use 10 or more alterations on one map

>>157336840
>yellow maps
Doesn't even matter, with decent atlas % you can sustain reds easy.

AW confirmed uber lab viable

>>157336840
transmute and aug and run

>Zizaran loves Tucker and Dale vs. Evil
HC players confirmed good taste

>Died 4 times fighting shaper
>As pathfinder BV
Shitcrows WW@?

To the guy who was ingaming me about my WI build: Sorry I forgot your name, I'm at a hair shy of 8k ES.

>>157315394
how the fuck do you learn any lessons without the game telling you precisely how you blew up in .001 second?

>>157336316
assturdmantis is good with whispering ice, because you can convert all of your strength and dexterity on the graph into int and still meet your stat requirements, while also providing a lot of int itself
great item to be family

i want to PET catposter

What's the best spell to use as a mine?
I've just about had it with these essence packs.

>>157339995
Basically just guess.
It has no skill involved unlike darksouls, so you probably dided to lag, corrupted blood, reflect, a shitty mob explosion, maybe an element bearer. or the MYRIAD of bullshit oneshots that can clip you from retarded ranges.

That's usually all it ever is, there's no skill involved it all comes down to this list:

-Is your gear good?
-Is your tree okay?
-do you have capped resists?
-is the game stable at the moment?
-did you buy an expensive supporter pack?

If you answered yes to all those, you should be fine. Answering no to two or more usually means your guy will shoot across the screen against your will and kill themselves on a oneshot because the devs can't into pathing.

How do we fix combat?

>>157341086
>This chest is locked.
>This chest is locked.
>This chest is locked.
>This chest is locked.

I'm not even clicking near it how the fuck are all strongboxes the size of a hallway at the worst possible times?

>>157341232

PoE-killer LostArk already fixes it.

It just needs to release on the west and we can abandon this pos

>>157341743
it's a korean game so it'll be all empty flash

why are they crushing na's dreams on the first set

also, did these faggots actually boo the koreans

>>157339995
I started using Shadowplay whenever I play PoE after a few mysterious deaths. There was an update a few days ago that makes it a lot easier to toggle it on and off.

Don't know if AMD has an equivalent yet.

>>157341743
>look at gameplay
>10 second cooldowns
really makes me think

>>157341582
Wanna know how I died in hardcore?


I was level 90, and had already cleared some of the hardest maps, so I decided I'd kill Malachi on merciless. Halfway through his first from I died to his slam.

I was clicking on the bottom left side of the screen above the health bard. He was in the top right. My guy runs to the bottom, then fucking turns around and kills himself on malachi. I don't know where the fuck they learned how to program, but it must've been where i got my kidneys from.

-max res mod is too strong honestly

I'm starting to alch maps ( t6 and t7 ) else I got shit luck even rolling pack size on blues, but that mod makes them too dangerous, else I run pretty much anything except blood magic.

also that chicken boss in Canyon is waaay too fucking strong.

>>157341743
Lost ark is going to be dead on arrival.

>>157342148
the newest driver has something like it, but not as comfy as shadowplay

>>157342534
Just make sure to kill both bosses in canyon close together so you don't have to fight them enraged for too long.

And max res isn't that bad. -10 res increases damage taken by less than an added elemental mod (assuming the monster was already dealing ele damage). I've run -max on my RF character no problem.

-max res + added cold on a CI build can be surprisingly rippy, though.

>>157320063
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1754039/page/1
>patch that is supposed to fix sextants is delayed
LOL

>>157342603
i'd consider playing it for a while if it avoided an exploitative business model, but koreans love their terrible business models

why is picking up uniques so underwhelming in this game :(
i found 50 uniques since i started two weeks ago, and only a handful of those were even worth a chaos

>>157343521
Make sure to check the rolls before vendoring. I've got a non-shit Whispering Ice and a high roll Facebreakers that sold for a decent amount alone.

>>157343521
veil of the night is a high quality item and the game was greatly improved by its introduction

>>157343808
>look that item up, cause never heard of it
>Elemental Resistances are zero
rofl, what were they thinking?

>>157343789
god, i'd be glad if i found something like a pair of Facebreakers. everything i find is useless bullshit.
I could compile a list of every unique i found so far and post it, but i guess no one would read it.

>>157344158
it's probably a great improvement to shitcrow merciless resistances

>>157344347
I've gotten 6 Agnerod Staffs to drop for me, Facebreakers, several Tabulas, and so on. I've probably had over 500 drop at this point. Just play the game more if you want good drops. RNG will respond eventually.

>>157343426
>2.4.1 we'll release new skills!
>maybe
>Nah just kidding, here's some lame bullshit buff to sextants instead
>Whoops we need to do more testing

:^)

>>157345019
>steam

>>157345019
Usually that goes away if I just wait a bit, but earlier it straight up wasn't cooperating and I had to close it.

>>157344158
>what were they thinking?
They wanted to add filler to the drop lists. Make better unique items of particular tier more valuable by adding trash with the same drop rate. GGG's got this design philosophy that there should be both good and bad unique items so that landing a good item feels more rewarding.

>>157345525
But..isn't that why they're unique? So when they eventually appear it feels good?

>>157345592
but when you're mad that a piece of shit just dropped it makes chris feel good
and that's the important part

>>157345525
That isn't the case. Veil of the Night was a supporter unique. Almost all of the garbage uniques are.

GGG uniques are always either levelling uniques, 'meh', or bullshit OP.

>>157346115
the dancing dervish is hella op

>Pretty much just started playing
>Have no fucking clue what I'm doing

>>157346223
>Almost

Though I guess that's misleading since the majority of the uniques in the game are, in fact, supporter uniques.

So, are there any ways to play PoE comfy?

Every build seems to die in half a second unless you're constantly paying attention and stuff and then you lose a few hours of grinding.

I kinda just wanna make progress at a more relaxed pace.

>>157347369
play a totem character in dried lake to 95

>>157347369
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1171890

>>157347369
Make a Gladiator or grab both Block Ascendancies on Scion and stack Reckless Defense with a Brass Dome.
Enjoy 3/4 of all hits doing nothing. Add in Blind somehow and half of those attacks that do make it though will do nothing as well.

I've had 3 prophecies in merciless that I just cant seem to complete, I'm level 77 now and had them since I started merc difficulty I believe :
you will open a corrupted rare strongbox
you will slain a rare fighting bull and he will drop a unique
you will slain a bearded shaman and he will drop an unique

>>157347967
just like play the game man

>>157347967

>not vaaling a rare strongbox
>not going to the grand arena
>not going to prisoner's gate

What are you even doing, m8?

Why no Grim Dawn general ?

>>157348583
Because PoE is the only half-decent game in this shitty genre.

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>>157348583
>Grim Dawn
>Popular enough to have a general

>Grim Dawn
>Good

>>157346223
How do you use the dancing dervish? I loved rampage.

>>157348404
>>not going to the grand arena
>>not going to prisoner's gate

already did, no results

didnt think about vaaling the strongbox tho im retarded

>>157349659
You proc rampage and then switch into your real weapon supposedly, i haven't tried it

>>157349659
i was thinking about doing a doryani's first warchief totem with dancing dervish, but it should be pretty terrible so i've been unable to bring myself to play it

are there any other arpgs worth playing. Never played Diablo when I was younger but I played a bit of this an it's fun, but a bit too complicated, and I don't enjoy having to follow someone elses build just to not die all the time. I'm playing a firestorm build, which is okay, but for a game that boasts you can change skills easily, you sure as fuck can't change your skills easily.

What's worth playing/pirating?

no arpgs are SHIT

>>157350392
Not much.

Grim Dawn, but it's riddled with pacing issues.

Diablo 3, but it's fucking dead and has fuck all in terms of interesting design.

Torchlight 2 is probably the only other one I'd actually play, but about the best I can say for it is that it's 'okay' all around.

>>157350392
play a good genre instead

>>157350392
go play ys origin and stop confusing diablo clones arpgs

>>157350392
dark souls

>>157351203
Which Dark Souls do i play first

>>157350969
nah mate, too old and japanese

>>157350872
ah okay, I like having different spells and abilities and being able to change up a build a bit if I feel like it.

>>157351203
Yeah I do like darksouls, but I like the stupid powerful stuff you get in these games where you just wipe out a crowd.

lol why are you all on this thread if you all hate this game and the genre

>>157350392
There are a couple. D3, marvel heroes, grim dawn, van helsing, titan quest, torchlight. D3 fixed a lot of the issues it had with release and is actually fun to play early on. It falls flat before long and still has issues. Fun for a while though. Marvel heroes can be enjoyable if you're fine with having your hand held and playing it for fun rather than depth. Ven helsing's hit or miss. Grim dawn and torchlight are fun until you run out of stuff to do.

>>157350392
Try out din's curse and zombasite if you're okay with shit graphics.

>>157351376
Every general I've been in on /vg/ hates their game. Either that, or they flat out don't even play it.

>>157351376
poe has a lot of moving parts that makes it interesting to cobble together viable builds out of
if i want to have fun i play good games

I have been reading a few SRS build guides an I have a question.

Why does no one use orb of storms with curse on hit to proc EE and curse?

Is the Arc totem that much better?

>>157351790
Unless you are using a lightning skill Orb of Storm sucks and even if it didn't, just dropping the Orb involves getting relatively close to mobs compared to standing a screen away from danger.

>>157351376

>>121502057
>>111206420
>>110458002
>>110348526

>>157350392
I got Grim Dawn through the Humble Bundle monthly subscription last month. Played it, liked it for a while, then found out it had pretty much no endgame. It also felt kinda sluggish.
Started PoE instead and have been having a blast with it. I played D2 back in the days, and PoE has come closest to how I felt when playing D2 all those years ago.

At what point does critchance+crit multi do more damage than elemental overload?

>>157352475
When you have enough crit chance and multi to out-damage elemental overload.

no other arpg will ever compare to poe because they dont have the gofast factor

d2 comes close but its obviously pretty dated

>>157352663
I just want more games to use poe's flask system. That shit is nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0r_Wo4LcIA

>>157352894
when i first started playing, realizing you could put mods on your flasks blew my mind

>>157351376
None of those games let you change up your build particularly easily.

Heavy investment is a staple of the genre, PoE is actually fairly lenient when it comes to character respeccing.

>>157351376
I like PoE, I have a lot of fun playing it, but I don't pretend it's actually a good game, or a good genre.

>>157348583
same reason no other arpg has one, even if they are good/decent

only poe is being actively promoted/developed to be popular these days

even d3 is now in maint mode

>>157350392

grim dawn

d3/marvel heroes (very similar games)

the torchlights

dungeon siege or TQ if you can stand older arpgs

>>157353602
>Torchlight
I can never complete a run with them and always end getting bored about 3/4 in, and I don't know exactly why, it's like they're even more repetitive than the usual for the genre and they aren't as interesting to experiment with builds in.

And yet I put way too many hours in Diablo 3, all pre RoS.

>>157353308
>i like PoE
>i have fun playing it
>somehow it still is not a good game
you realize how weird this sounds, right?

>>157354275
No, liking things that are objectively bad is not that strange.

>>157354160

thats because despite its flaws D3 has a pretty fucking polished early game

Torchlight 1 is all about endgame endless dungeons and mods

tl2 feels pretty bland without mods, and most mods focus on endgame experience (so early game still feels like shit)

here's one feature I never understood about ARPGs, at least the newer ones that came after Diablo 2.
What exactly is the point of the sequential difficulty levels? It doesn't benefit the game in any way, especially PoE. Just let the players go into maps straight after the first difficulty. Having to play through the same game three consecutive times just so you can get to the real endgame is just plain tedious. GGG is doing the right thing by removing one difficulty when Act 5 hits, but why not just walk the whole mile?
I realize that back in the day, D2 needed the three difficulty levels for longevity, but we don't need this anymore today with the map/rift/w.e. systems in place.

cant wait for D2 remake, but PoE is great and I'm having fun slowly progressing through maps

>>157354797
I wish PoE had D3's early game. Skills feel really fucking satisfying to use in D3 early whereas you have to wait until your build comes together or can support a five link skill before PoE feels good to play.

>>157354883
That's a good point. Huh. Why does it work that way? I've noticed the same things in a lot of MMOs as well. The first 70 levels are just there to exist until you hit the actual endgame.

>>157354361
there is no objectively good or bad when it comes to entertainment/art.
what's fun to you should be what you regard as good.
why would you give a rats ass about a thousand people saying a game is bad, when you yourself have fun playing it? That's how you perceive the game, theres no one else involved in that equation.

>>157354275
Makes perfect sense to me. I try to be objective in everything I do so as to avoid becoming a hypocrite. I don't need to believe something has merit to enjoy it.

>>157354883
content padding

the extra replayability of NG+ became a ""staple"" in arpgs because its the one genre where content can be procedurally scaled almost forever because of the constant gear upgrades the game gives you (so there can be a 1000000000% difference in monster damage between level 1 and 85 but in practice it doesnt feel like that)

>>157354883
GGG will eventually make it a one difficulty game, but they need more content

After playing a few builds this patch, i can safely say there is really no point in playing anything but barrage poison or bv

even vortex feels so-so for the investment you put in it

>>157356020
Melee is going to be the most popular next league.
I guarantee it.

>>157354797
Yeah, in D3 I had an even worse case of altitis, only lessened by the extremely easy respeccing. Play a character, get to Act 2, start another with another class, get not even half in Act 1 and start another.

I didn't even bother with more than one character in Tl1, and I always try to finish any game vanilla before playing with mods.

>>157355003
I was thinking than an alternative to PoE doing away with merciless would be starting a character at, say, level 40 in merciless plus the points and buffs from the normal sidequests, and a few decent items to not get murdered right at the strand.
Which overall sounds like a stupid idea but at least you could get a build going off the start.

>>157356020
Yeah but did you play maxblock bor aegis varunastra glacial hammer? No? Get back to work.

>>157355225
The whole perception of MMOs today is totally warped IMO. Back in the day, you played an MMO to discover the games world, learn about stuff, familiarize yourself with the systems the game had in place etc. Leveling wasn't something that "stood in the way", it was a natural part of the game. Today, everyone just rushes to endgame and goes raiding instead of enjoying the game, although in the case of todays WoW, raids have become an utter joke except on the highest difficulty. In Vanilla, raids were a privilege only a small part of the playerbase got to enjoy, and it was good like that. Now, every casual housewife can enter a raid and feel like a "hardcore gamer". The thing has lost all its prestige, sadly.

Is there any point in taking curse effectiveness nodes anymore? -60% less effect vs bosses feels fucking bad

>>157355225
Because people rush through the levels to hit the endgame, and then complain there's no endgame. With updates come additions to the endgame and then later on making getting there easier for newer players.

>>157355442
yea, like i said, this kind of content padding was needed in the genre 15 years ago. But we don't need it today, since maps give near endless replayability.

>>157356519
>>157356284
It kind of sounds like most people prefer the endgame content over the grind to reach the endgame content. Game where you start out with a fully leveled character and the only content is endgame content when? I wouldn't mind the grind to reach high tier dungeons and raids if that grind was something I enjoyed doing - dungeons and raids. Monster hunter styled combat, an emphasis over player skill rather than player gear, tons of big ass monsters to kill solo or with a group, the recycled dungeon shit WoW uses to revamp earlygame dungeons for extra longevity, lore of SWtoR, shit like that. Typing it out makes me realize it just wouldn't work. Damn.

>>157356583
maps are the same content padding tho, just with some extra gimps

>>157356490
only the 3 near scion at most. so with helm enchant and 20q blasphemy your enfeeble is slighly better vs bosses

>when you roll +30% ims

>>157356583
Strongly disagree with the idea that the story part is "content padding." It gives players the breathing room to build their character and test it against vanilla content before they can challenge themselves with randomized mods, assuming maps are to be rolled with mods at some point. What exactly is the difference between the perceived tedium of leveling through story content and the tedium of leveling through [randomly_generated_area] at level 40+ (end of normal) when you have nowhere near enough passives to customize your character? Is it really worse to have clear build/gear checks (normal a4/lab, cruel a4/lab, merc lab)? Are players learning anything if they're thrown into the whole mapping system (with all the currency sinks and non-linear scaling frustrations that come with it) right after normal?

>>157356284

the most popular online games have zero story (mobas)

devs have realized for years that engaging storylines and immersive world dont attract or keep the vast majority of players around for long

dont blame devs, blame players

>>157357357
This has very little to do with "storyline" or "immersion" in the case of PoE where the vast majority of players don't give a shit about the lore and everything to do with the right progression curve. Which isn't solved in any way by throwing players into the mapping system right after normal.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11424301

>>157357572
if "normal" contained enough content to bring players to mapping level, why not?

>>157356972
> I wouldn't mind the grind to reach high tier dungeons and raids if that grind was something I enjoyed doing - dungeons and raids.

Well, it kinda was like that in Vanilla and BC. You did low lvl instances because they gave a shitton of exp. The dungeons were integrated into the leveling process. AFAIK, there still are dungeons while leveling in WoW today, but those are not real dungeons imo, the last time I played WoW, leveling dungeons took something like 10min to complete.
Raids during the leveling phase probably wouldn't work out, since you'd need everyone in your guild/group to level at the same pace or wait/catch up to one another. Not a good idea.

>Monster hunter styled combat, an emphasis over player skill rather than player gear, tons of big ass monsters to kill solo or with a group

Monster Hunter combat would change the genre too much. I agree that there's a problem with gear though. I think a big part of the "rushing through leveling" thing is that all the gear you find just is throw away stuff, you don't care about it. A better option might be to get rid of gear during leveling alltogether. The character starts out completely decked out, but completing quests powers up the "leveling gear". That way the player feels like hes progressively improving through everything he does and gets invested in questing. At max level, gear starts to drop in the dungeons. The fully upgraded leveling gear should enable the players to do pre-raid content, but should be useless when entering the first raid.

>lore of SWtoR
To me, SWtoR felt too much like a singleplayer game. The game was terrible anyway, so I'd rather not bringt anything from it into another game.

>>157357572
modern arpgs are made as grind sims

the problem with progression in arps is that you either just let players do whatever they want (d3) or design a progress path to take players into endgame (poe, many other arpgs). But if the progress path is too easy then players breeze past it and complain there is no content. If you make it too hard then they complain the content is locked behind some unfair mechanic. Etc

Questions from a new player.
Are any of the classes particularly bad/difficult? I don't need to know if there's one amazing class, just if theres anything that I'd be better off avoiding.

If I'm not wanting to use an existing build and I'm wanting to just kind of figure out my own thing are there any general rules I should follow? Like for example what are a good number of stat points to have?

Are hybrid classes more difficult to pull of skill wise?

>>157357357
I agree. MMOs were not meant to be a popular genre, designed for the masses. But since WoW has been so successful, the genre has been increasingly casualized, and now we have the monstrosity that is modern MMOs.

>>157358597
I'd probably avoid templar as his ascendencies are pretty specific

you will want about 170% increased max life give or take depending on defenses etc

>>157358597
>Are any of the classes particularly bad/difficult?

none are terrible

but perhaps avoid scion if you are new

>stats

this aint a stat game for the most part. your stats will enable you to equip gear but on most builds there is no need to stack any stat

>>157358597
>Are hybrid classes more difficult to pull of skill wise?
Not really, start with whatever you want and experiment. Pure attribute classes get the benefit of having (generally) more intuitive quest gem rewards and an easier time coloring gear, but that's about it. E.g. if you want to play a marauder, you get a bunch of red gems and you only need to worry about wearing armour gear, and so on.

>>157358597
Every class is fine. I would advise against "going in dry", i.e. not following a build, but if you really want to do that, this is what you should do generally: Pick up as much health nodes in the skilltree as you can. Elemental resistances are very, very important too, but it generally is not a good idea to invest a lot of passive skill points into them, since later you'll get most of your resistances from gear. A few points into nodes that give like, +10 or 15% to all Elemental Resistances are fine though.
Decide what main defense stat you want for your character, Armour, Evasion or Energy Shield. Spend your skill points accordingly. Look at the gear you find, check what defense it has, armour, evasion or ES.

>>157358597
I'd say Slayer is nice for a beginner who wants to be melee, can't go wrong with stun immunity and reflect damage reduction.

>>157358272
I really like how the gear in PoE works. You can get by with a goldrim until you hit maps. There are a handful of low level uniques that are core on particular builds. I just don't think the gear system in poe could be used in an mmo where big numbers have become the staple. Good points all around anon. It's been fun thinking about this. I wish you the best.

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>>157358831
>but perhaps avoid scion if you are new
I'd avoid scion if I were experienced too.

>>157359446
A good discussion is always nice.
Maybe some smalltime developer will see this and go on to create the perfect MMO (hah, yeah right).
Best wishes to you as well, sir!

>>157358764
>>157358831
>>157359140
>>157359190
>>157359198
Okay working off of these (thank you by the way).

Now I've played a little bit so far as a templar, a marauder, and a shadow. As of now I have to say I'm partial to having a little bit of energy shield around, just kind of that bubble of a few hit points that mean I don't have to potion after every little fight, so I'm leaning shadow or templar in armor that gives energy sheild and something else. My marauder feels strangely fragile next to the other two. Haven't really pumped evasion or seen what that looks like.

Playing around with some energy shield, claws, and shadow I feel like there's a nice healthy buffer before I start taking "real" damage.

Is damage leeching/claws a good avenue to pursue?
Are the dual armors useful or are they lacking behind their pure counterparts?

>>157358597
No class is horrible beyond help, even Scion who is in a horrible spot now has an amazing niche use or two.

The most important stat in the game is life. By the end of Normal you should have 1.1k. 2.2k for end of Cruel and 3.5k-4k for end of Merciless to start mapping.

Second most important stat, your elemental resists, fire, cold, lightning, should as high as possible. The endgame is balanced around all three being capped at 75%.

>>157359820
Claws are in a very bad spot right now. I would stay away from them.

>>157359820
Armour works fine early on. Coupled with life regen, it allows you to shrug off most of physical damage in normal. Out of the 3 bases defenses, it's the one I'd recommend to beginners.

Energy Shield is also okay as long as you get a decent buffer. Regen kicks in after 2 seconds of not taking damage so it works well if you are able to do so as a ranged character. Don't try leveling ES melee.

Claws are shit. Leech/lgoh only applies to attacks and there are no good melee claw skills. Technically you could use ranged skills like Spectral Throw but it's generally not worth the trouble if you don't know what you're doing.

>>157359820
Also if you are planning a build, do not use all 123 points the online tree planner allows you to take. Expect to have 110 points by Lv90 assuming you didn't get a skill point from any of the bandits.
Trying to get exp past Lv90 is very slow. Don't expect to get past Lv93 if you're sane.

Why the fuck do the Ivory Temple bosses have so much HP when they're like 5 or 6?

>>157359885
>>157360118
Good to know (that they're not so good). Little sad of course but its nice to have not wasted my time.

The other class that piqued my interest was duelest. Specifically as a gladiator in the evasion/armor armor. I'm not sure what I'd want to do with this but it feels like something I want to use.

^nice build

Whats everyone's plans / theorized builds for the channeling skills patch? I've got a templar sitting at Act 4 cruel that i leveled w/ AB which I'm willing/able to respec completely into whatever works best.
The laser beam they teased looks worthless but perhaps spell totem + laser beam? Will they just rework older skills or will it be a set of new ones?
Wondering what stats/mechanics the channeling skills will be affected by most.
Btw Perandus on maps is an asshole but Seven-league step boots sure do make leveling alts EZ

>>157360618
>channeling skills

Let me guess, life leech won't work with them since they are a type of DoT, which means you have no sustain on top of basically standing around facetanking everything. Bravo GGG.

>>157360618
mid-league skill balance changes rarely if ever happen
they'll just release new skills and incinerate will still be shit
end of story

>>157360618
have they showed anything for the new skills other than not-incinerate-because-its-a-laser?

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>>157360586
Gladiator specializes in Block with has very good synergy with stacking life with little care for Armour/Evasion.

If you wanted to make a combo Armour+Evasion character, I would recommend Champion. Combined with this new Unique Belt coming out in the future it would be quite powerful.

stop giving ascendancy advice to a newshit who hasn't completed normal yet like what the fuck it's like trying to teach quantum physics to a high school freshman who's just learned about the laws of gravity

>>157360904
People think that kraitln blade flurry skill will be a channel skill for daggers/claws. The helm enchant has been in the game since June.

>>157361490
so blade vortex, but worse, for melee claws? LOL DOA skill

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Ayy, did it poeg

why can't GGG git gud, /poeg/?

>>157361917
>Activate Windows

oh shiet /poeg/ i just got my first exalt!

wtf should i do with it

rmt it

>>157361917
Blood magic is still good?

>>157362118
Upgrade your gear, anon.

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why do poetards pretend to be hardcore players when their mechanical skill is objectively inferior to that of even a casual moba player?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=965QbyJpHwE

>>157362526
excuse you I am pathetic enough to play more than one time consuming game at a time.

>rare strongbox with +1300% rarity of contained items
>not even a single rare


is this bugged? happened four times now

>>157362526
please tell me thats a trap

>>157363028
1300% to a box isn't like 1300% on gear

>>157363028
Nope. 1300 times 0 is still 0.

>>157363067
thats an actual female you fucking faggot

>>157361002
so how does ir work with this belt?

>>157363425
Champion has permanent Fortify. So now you also have permanent Onslaught.

>>157361002
Is that belt going to hit live? It would make the 100k armor meme builds actually great. Close to 350% increased damage.

>>157363675
Oh, wait. I'm an idiot. Didn't see that it said of your lowest value. Well shit. Still, you could squeeze out 100% increased damage easily enough.

>>157363425
>>157363425
Can you read the stats? 1% attack damage per 300 of your LOWEST value between armour and evasion. Meaning if you want to fully benefit from it you have to stack armour AND evasion. It explicitly encourages hybrid ar/eva stacking rather than pure ar/eva

>>157363831
yeah but is the belt 610 armor or not

>>157359585
HEY, scion is good for SOME stuff

poeurl.com/OuA

>>157362526
>moba players thinking they are above ARPG players
that gotta be one of the most comic things I've ever heard. Cooldown town is inherently more casual, hence the popularity

>>157364541
yeah, assfaggots is above pve loot grinders
sorry your game is more casual than league of babies

>>157364669
lel. is that what you do while waiting on cooldowns? shitpost on poeg?

>>157364541
moba: low skill floor, high skill ceiling
poe: low skill floor, low skill ceiling

holding right click while you facetank the hardest content with instant leech isn't skill, in fact it's pretty much the negation of skill. poe is a gear check game, not a skill check game. you could argue the best skill there is is how to get rich, not how to play like a mechanically intelligent player

>>157364442
She's good at getting my dick HARD

>>157364759
after a solid 60 hours of killing slimes do you say, "out skilled?" or do you just start yelling "lightning bolt!"

>>157364768
blame GGG for shitty balance. Not every skill is CI BV flask user

also
>moba:
>high skill ceiling
lel. its a literal more complex game of rock paper and scissors with a slower pace than an ARPG, skill-wise. Its more knowledge based than anything

>>157364939
>slimes

you shitposting in Dragon quest general as well? wrong one buddy

was poisoned nerfed again? I feel like my character doesn't do much damage anymore.

>>157364442
What skill gems would this use?

>>157365014
the only mechanical task in path of exile is swapping out your vaal skill gems so you can kill a boss with your no damage hardcore build before it beletes you

>>157365145
by 20%

>>157365152
Im actually a bit undecided. Its obviously a Pillar build, still leveling, chosen duelist and marauder ascendancies not set in stone. but for non-aoe investment I found that this is objectively the best tree for that unique

>>157365014
any game where you play player vs. player has added difficulty in having to outplay your opponent

>>157365145
its been gutted compared to how it was at first

now you need to invest a lot in chaos/dot scaling or abuse proj double dipping for it to be good

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60% exp through level 92, get one hit by the big guy in excavation. xp/hr doesn't even show up anymore it just says "you wasted your time".

>>157365786
you were always wasting your time in the first place

>>157365762
Just seems like I've lost 3k chaos damage somehow, well not like I really need it, barrage is one-shotting everything without it.

>>157365152
>>157365268
eh, I thought I fixed a mistake with that tree there's a node taken by mistake, if you can get leech from gear, then

poeurl.com/OuE

THIS version is better (takes leech out for +2 end charges). otherwise you can use those 4 nodes for either lust for carnage or to get the double mana and life leech node if you prefer that.

Right now Im thinking of testing flicker with that new warden iron ring unique . but you can also go melee splash with a few single targets since the gem gives MORE aoe. (especially nice with infernal blow)

>>157365893
ah another option, in case you dont have a way to generate end charges and dont need leech,those 4 points can be used in soul of steel as a nice alternative. I've thought this through, Scion is GOOD for some niche things.
With that said, most of her ascendancy nodes suck major balls, ggg plz do something

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I've been playing since closed beta and leveled to 90+ multiple times every league using 1k+ chances a league, feels good to get the best item when I finally hit.

>>157365751
true true. which is why I feel sad GGG abandoned PvP instead of doing it properly. When ARPG pvp works its pretty fucking cool

>>157366271
FUCK YOU

>>157366271
hey nice man, congrats

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>>157351376
>nah mate, too old and japanese

Should be a (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) somewhere.

>>157366678
Where are their noses?

>>157366714
On the middle of their faces?

>>157366747
I don't see them. How do they smell? How do their intake oxygen? Are they mouth breathers?

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>>157366714

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when is the competitive race

>>157366271
not even that good desu

>>157366908
>How do they smell?

They evolved to be unable to smell weeb stink, as they couldn't be perfect otherwise.

>killing map Hillock so fast he doesnt have time to mutate

feelsgood

they really towned him down tho, I remember before they introduced tiers you could get one shotted by his leap slam

also exiles are all fucking pathetic, and yes I run rare maps ( up to t8 so far ) and sometimes I dont even notice them

>fight uber Izaro with a mace
>dodge a leap
>he turns to me
>suddenly I'm dead
What the fuck

>>157367975
>and yes I run rare maps ( up to t8 so far )
cute
stupid but cute

>>157368071
L O C K S T E P

should I spend 4 points just to run arctic armour ?

other options are more endurance charge or frenzy

>>157368454
depends on your build

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>hit 96 on ehc
>dont dare to do any actual content outside of t15 maps
some days i think i should just try and die and continue in softcore until the next league.

>>157368887
What's the point of autistically grinding for an arbitrary number no one but you actually cares about? Dare to challenge yourself, for fuck's sake and if you die to a guardian, make sure to reroll a better character

>>157366271
>only 64 ES
What a trash unique.
Why would people pay so many ex for this thing?

>>157369191
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>157368608
regular melee stuff, ground slam and warchief, leap slam + fortify, basalte + granite

but 10% less physical and fire damage never hurts.

one more endurance charge wouldnt change anything, frenzy is always good, or I could spend 4 points on 2 jewels slots but even if I get gg jewels its like what 12%, some attack speed or crit multi, meh.

I feel like the sources of reduced damage taken are mandatory to stack as much as possible on any build when you know just about anything can hit for thousands.

I'm not there yet though.

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>>157369309
I hate those, such a waste of time since I cant help myself but to identify everything.

new gem idea :

Identify
spell
per 1% quality : 1% increased radius
cast time : 0.5 second
identify items on the ground in a radius around the caster
base radius is 20 units

link that shit to cast when damage taken - spell totem - spell echo

Isnt that great

>>157370289
MUH CHAOS RECIPIE!

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>when you want to be hardcore but your mom won't let you

>>157370675
How is this your mom's fault?

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>Keep at least one guard alive
>Keep the target alive while you lock pick the box

Was Vorici designed to say Fuck You to totem builds?

>>157369415
:^)

>>157370675
the ping is a damn lie and even with 79 shit's extremely laggy and choppy to the point of crash

>>157370675
how the fuck do you have the same ping to every gateway

do you live in the planet core or something

>>157371074

i play mostly totems and ive had no problem getting him to l7 every temp league

its mostly a matter of pulling shit away carefully

>>157365786
>dying in excavation at 92
Maybe doing triple damage red maps is a bad idea?

>>157371636

170%+ extra damage is a bad idea unless you run cheesing builds that kill shit too fast for enemy damage to matter 99% of the time

>>157372229
that was my strategy until i hit the high gardens boss with ele weakness, 29% monster dmg, and 101% as cold. never been 1 shot so hard in my life.

>>157372764
but ele weakness is literally free packsize

>>157372764
>his build can't take ele weakness

Enjoy rerolling maps forever because you reject a free packsize mod retard

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i need your assistance in locating a specific gif

>>157373404
No fuck off. Animate that image or no deal.

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>trying 4 link lightning warp for the first time
WHY DO PEOPLE WILLINGLY USE OTHER MOVEMENT SKILLS?!

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>20 shapers
>0 starforges

>>157373602
Lack of spiral support gem renders lightning warp practically useless.

>>157373602
are you a pro gamer

>>157373528
dedicating an entire 4L gear piece to a movement skill isnt possible a lot of the times

>>157373528
>4-L
LW, Faster casting, Less duration, ????

oh my, /lolg/
while devising my latest hipster build i completely forgot about chroming my chest
on average it will only cost me 177 stacks of chromes
this the best build idea i've ever had

>>157373987
thats like, 2 ex?

>>157373987
>Need to 3R1B my 4l for cwdt/ic/incdur/vaal disc
>Vorici calc says to do vorici 3R
>Only have enough chromes for one use
>It gives me 3R1G

>>157374094
what's the stat requirement for the item you were trying to chrome

always try to get 3-4 off on whatever has the lowest requirements

>>157374073
wut

>>157373602
All these shitty standard babby builds trying to make Starforge work and ending up with shit dps upset me.

I distinctly remember some cuckboi in these threads arguing about how the sword is broken imbalanced.

>>157374331
it is broken

doesnt mean 2 handers are fucking shit with no good skills

>another delay
nice game poetards

>>157374073
177 x 20 = lodes emone

Reading the Atlas Mechanics page, it sounds like "completing" a map is different from the "bonus objective" that gives you 1% on the Atlas.

Does that mean that if I don't do the map corrupted, I'll still unlock it on the droptable even if I don't get the 1%?

>>157374915
I make 3k chromes in 2 weeks from farming

>>157375023
no

>>157375023
yes

>>157375040
if you want to sell me 3k chromes on ehc for 2 ex i won't stop you

>>157375040
2 weeks is a pretty long time bruv

>>157375023
According to our lord and savior ShiggyD, yes.

>>157373978
rapid decay
>>157373803
people do it for whirling blades, this is way better than getting fortify

>>157375813
not if you run bv or vortex

lw really shines on shit like lab or the retarded map layouts people avoid, but most of the time its slower than shield charge or wb

twitch tv/pcchild/v/94657790
these are the people who complain about lab

>>157376302
after the number of characters i've made this league i'm getting pretty sick of lab
every time i see the roomba i think 'why the fuck is this in the game at all'

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Are you ACTUALLY, UNIRONICALLY still playing this league?

Bleed and knockback interact with eachother right

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How man

>>157377606
ayy lmao kek

>>157377606
-1

>>157376709
how are you sick of lab before getting sick of...
hillock
brutus
merveil
kraityn
fidelitas
alira
oak
vaal oversoul
piety
dominus
voll
kaom
daresso
piety again
shavronne
doedre
maligaro
malachai
and all the shit in between them?

>>157377836
i forgot a piety or two

>>157377836
none of those require 50 minutes of slowly dodging traps

this game is shit

i know because i've played it a lot