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Zaibas>Frost Cloud edition

Previously on /tosg/: >>157215553

How's r8 so far for you, anon?

>Latest Patch Notes: RANK 8 IS HERE
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=677

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Orsha (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Beethoven)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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Up to what level do we get level 13 exp cards from exploration, i heard it starts at 286 but up to what level before it turns to level 14??
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How do I continue my Scout3
Archer2 Hunter1 Scout3 ??? Mergen?
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/Bullies/ when?
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Ok I played the game 3 days after returning. This isn't meant to be doom posting. Just to note I have no: Blessed shards, no boss cards etc.

>First day
Couldn't do anything. All quests bugged. No grind parties for Storage looking for my classes (people still shout for tanks, taunts, chronos ONLY). Logged off tired and bored. Too much shit to do. Wasted most of my time running the same fucking dungeons I ran back when I quit 4 months ago. Nothing has changed except some people just have bigger weapons now and I need to somehow farm 600 cards. I also have to run Saalus for a billion times and there's no groups. Depressing.

>Second day
They fixed quests. I guess I'll finish all those missing dungeon runs before the dungeons reset to get some boss cards because I have 7 empty slots on 4 charact- "SERVER IS GOING DOWN TO MAINTENANCE IN 50 MINUTES" oh... well, I'll run as many as I can. Maintenance happens and it goes over the dungeon reset.

2 hours later... After maintenance... go and queue up for Siaul with my level 256. It's now 4 pm during the day so prime time.

Takes 35+ minutes to get a party. The runs go fast but I waste 1 hour and 40 minutes on doing 3 missions. Got no Glass Mole cards so it was a waste of my time. Logout the 256 character, login 280 character. Spend the next 1.5 hours running old dungeons for cash and cards. Get 1 card and talt. Feel depressed there's nothing else to do in the game.

Login fresh new character I made. People buzzing everywhere. I'm having sort of fun? I don't know. I'm making a Doppel as 2:1 DEX build, but I have no clue if this build works so I keep asking myself is it worth even doing this time investment? Again?

>Third day (today)
I feel like I'll have to almost force myself to play this game today. I don't want to login and spend hours doing dungeon runs for absolutely nothing.
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>no one talking about the ktos changes of yesterday
FEATHERFEET(?) IN THE WORLD, REJOICE! YOUR SKILLS WERE CHANGED INTO POISON ELEMENT, WHICH MEANS YOU ALSO DO MIRE DAMAGE ON LINKED ENEMIES
Psychokino's and Sadhu's got changed into Soul(?)
Also Sadhu got some buffs(!), including new atts
Some new items got added, but I couldn't be arsed to check them on my phone
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>>157298653

nice blog tumblerina
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>Helping a friend to level on pre-R8 maps
>Comfy duo leveling, with some challenge due to the fact that we don't have absurd gears
>Having fun
>Gets R8
>Can't do the first 280+ map because monsters have huge HP, def, and atk
>Can't do anything unless you're partying with OP classes or overgeared/leveled people
>In the end we just mapped and got cards to get to overlevel monsters and kill them
>No fun allowed

I wish R8 didn't ever come.
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>>157298807
Tell me more about Sadhu changes. I have a Sadhu3 and I love the class, but it being extremely weak made me stop on R7 class quest and never touch it again.

It's not something 'useful' like Vashita Siddhi downs for 3% SP perc sec to 2% like they did last time... right?
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>>157298807
>YOUR SKILLS WERE CHANGED INTO POISON ELEMENT,
except like half of all the enemies past 280 are fucking poison types meaning your damage is garbage, AGAIN
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>>157299002
But muh mini game build
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Why?

Why add another coal quest like this?
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>>157298807
This means linker can boost your damage.
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>>157298653
Are you me?
Except third day i started doing shit and after Inner Wall District 8 the maps next to it are comfy for my build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3GIjOzEi4&feature=youtu.be
Anyways, i feel my DPS in boss fight isn't considered when i am trasformed but not in lycan form
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Can I play on NA servers from EU?
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>>157299334
Yes and there are more Euros on Klaipeda than Fedimian
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>>157299334
Yes just enjoy crappy ping and no one to play with during your day time and not being able to avoid boss hits and most classes are shittier with high ping.

>>157299368
Don't believe his lies.
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>>157299437
Than go play on Fedimian
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>>157299368
>>157299437
Getting mixed messages here. Is this game more dependant on low latency than other action mmos like thick loli boogaloo, BnS or BDO?
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>>157299762
It's very dependent on latency. PvP is fully dependent on latency.

Klaipeda is the US main server and it doesn't have any more players then the EU server, but this general is 90% US so they always try to steer new people to their server.
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Barrier now reduces ranged dmg

Smite delay reduced?

The chance on hit for Guardian saint is increased from 50% to 100%

Decreased dmg attribute of guardian saint now 10% per lvl instead of 5%

And a whole lot of sadhu buffs
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Can anybody redpill me on Schwarz Reiter?

Planning to make one and someone told me to not take QS since Limacon is the better Running Shot. And that I should max Caracole, Limacon and Concentrated Fire. She said Retreat Shot is nerfed so it's not good anymore plus Wild Shot with high AoE attack Ratio is better.
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>>157298950

Transmit prana now also transfers all other stats

Number of targets for possession now increases with skill level

And some OOB buff i don't understand
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I KNEW IT
THE ROYAL MAUSOLEUM PAINTINGS TOLD US
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>>157298950
>possession hit count bound by caption ratio 2 (no idea where to check where that is) instead of 5
>transmit prtana now has 4 atts (google translate a shit, can't guess what they do, but seems related to the bonuses the skill gives?)

also
>Ein Sof att makes healing 10% more efficient
>barrier att mitigates 10% of missile damage
>guardian saint can decrease damage by 50% with the att

Also, have this
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/624727
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>>157300418
No fucking way
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>>157300267
It think it just got changed into soul, which is an element that only resists itself. Considering how there are no soul enemies, will probably work like the Megido skills in Persona
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>>157300418
Yeah a semen demon
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>>157300806
Correction: Soul skills do 25% less damage on Dark and Holy property monsters, I was reading the chart wrong

All in all, these sadhu changes don't sound that great
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>>157298653
People like you who complain about there not being groups or parties should all just quit already since you're all just crybabies. There are at least a dozen opportunities to do everything in this game if you play long enough.

>people only shout for tanks, taunts, and chronos
You go and make your own party. Go there, scout the map, see if there's an empty channel, make a party a shout for people. You'll get people.

>Running dungeons
You don't run dungeons unless they're the good exp ones AND you're within the level range. You rush the ones with good drops, and that's usually only the 200, 217, and 130. There are enough cards to get to 130 with no grind, a small cap between 130~187 that can be filled with maybe 5 days of siauliai missions, and enough to go to 250 from there. You don't do that though, you stop at 211(sooner now with expanded exp range), grind Alemeth until it's not good anymore, then card a bit more, grind EVAC, card a litlte more, and you're now at the range for the new maps. That's it.
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>>157299991
>Smite delay reduced?
Tooltip says it does three times the damage on mutants and devils, don't know if that was the case already
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>>157301207
(cont)

>Emergency maintenance
Good. Would've been worse without one. Also, if you value your dailies counts, you DO THEM FIRST AND EARLY. Easier to get a party that way, too.

>Actually sitting in queue for 35+ minutes
Nigga if you're in queue for over 15 minutes you stop and go do something else. Are you stupid? Can't realize realize when something is a good use of your time or not? (granted playing MMOs are an awful use of anyone's time but whatever)

>There's nothing else to do in the game
Nigger you have a 256 character that needs to grind. That's a couple days of "things to do" right there. Not to mention your 280 has quests, too.

>Doppel 2:1 DEX build
I am still a firm believe that STR is an useless stat, but for a Doppel I suppose it's okay IF you're not planning on PvPing on it, ever.

Basically, you don't want to get out there and actually interact with players. You want to queue in and have a streamlined, single player experience from instanced content alone. You want AND LIKE the daily count system, and wish everything could be handed to you just by completing daily missions. You like this modern MMO crap model.

Rank8 is everything this game needed. Granted, it'd have been 100x better if instead of HP sponges and unavoidable damage, mobs were smarter instead, but it gave us something that was lacking: Difficulty. The game up until this point was piss-easy since even Cryo3Chrono3s would solo quest, albeit with a small margin of difficulty. Now you can't, you need to actually interact with people, use networking, and party up just to do some quests. There's no way this can't be viewed as a good thing.

You should just make a PvP character, then you'll have a long-term purpose, such as actually gitting gud enough so that you won't lose fights you could have otherwise won.
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Is Sunhwapark not doing patch note translations anymore? The patch you guys are talking about isn't in his pastebin.

Featherfoot not being Dark anymore is huge news. That means no longer being neutered in PvP because of Rhevisan.
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nobody cared about me.....
until i put on the mask
selling channel crashes
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>Inner Wall District 8
>Mobs rapes you and attack on sight
>lv 278 map
>Inner Wall District 9
>Mobs still strong
>same level map
>Outer Wall District 9
>mobs aren't aggressive and most harmless easy to solo
>City District 8
>lv 290
>1 damage
IMC logic with mobs
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>>157301801
>The patch you guys are talking about isn't in his pastebin.
Patches come out Thursdays in Korea if I remember correctly. Not enough time to have translated it yet.
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>>157301823
Swaaz, post your Peltasta damage for us to see. Damage attributes, too. I want to know if a Murmillo with Pelt but no Rodel would be viable.
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>>157301906
i dont have any murmillo attributes because of barry always giving you self-entitled cunts free zero profit repairs
i can pvp you if youd like, shoot me a whisper. my murmillo damage is neat, and my arrest + frenzied slash combo is pretty nice
also the squire3 skill is basically butterfly but with HALF THE COOLDOWN so its not the worst skill ever, but it doesnt have an attribute so i cant put silver into it to make it stronger.
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>>157301801
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/changes/commit/eecd896975f1d6069d78094392312e8b62345d4a

I'm just making some sense of what's there. Some premium/event items were added, even some costumes (monk3 and sadhu3, some other class tree locked shit), but whatever, who cares?
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yo did they fix the fps stuttering issue yet?
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is there no stat reset?
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>>157302114
no
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>>157301972
>i dont have any murmillo attributes because of barry always giving you self-entitled cunts free zero profit repairs
I was naive thinking that I could ask you something thinking I wouldn't get salt instead. Also, the reason you got no Silver has nothing to do with barry, it's because you refused to adapt and diversity your income, so you're stuck with complaining that you're entitled profit from doing repairs. Until IMC makes it so that crafting classes scale with STATS, nobody is going to make a profit. The only way to be competitive when you can't make your service better than the other guy's is to undercut, it's a base design flaw that anyone could see before the game was released, even.

>It's just butterfly with half the cooldown
I expected nothing and I was still disappointed. Regardless, the only thing in your kit that has the potential of doing any damage is Umbo/Rim Blow, because of the High Guard attributes. Everything will hit like wet noodles because +400% damage of nothing is still nothing. And you'd have to be high STR to make a dent, too.
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>>157302149
and if there's not did i fuck up by going full str on my doppelnig that's apparently good now?
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>>157302212
>Until IMC makes it so that crafting classes scale with STATS, nobody is going to make a profit.
I don't know, those squires and pardoners should be getting some profit considering how many times my armor is breaking
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i said shoot me a whisper, if u wanna be toxic i dont give a fuck
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So, how's the bokormonkwolf meme?
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>>157302112
>Guild member extension increased to 15
>Max guild level increased

Not bad, I guess. It's time they took another look at the guild system altogether.
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>>157300049
I was told that Concentrated Fire is better that Wild Shot because its number of hits scale with levels. Caracole is mostly used for the skid back effect so you only put one point on it, though the new Reduce Skid attribute makes it more useful than before. The priority now seems to be Marching Fire>Retreat Shot>Limacon = Concentrated Fire> Wild Shot > Caracole. Maybe a SRfag can tell you more.
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>>157302274
Potions, crafts, enchants, repairs. Everything should be scaling off stats. That way, players can specialize in specific craft types, effectively enabling them to be competitive outside of "Mine are cheaper than the guy next to me".

Squires with INT, DEX, or maybe even SPR. Also scaling off base level, so they aren't just "get to rank7 and afk in town forever" type of characters. For all the crafting classes available, there are literally zero advantages to playing or maining one.
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>>157302358
As all the memes, a shitty meme.
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>90 3/3
>game suddenly decides to crash
Eh
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>>157302491
I would say that those classes should be scaling with something like these

Squire: DEX and INT
Pardoner: SPR and CON
Alchemist: DEX and INT, and maybe a bit of SPR
Enchanter: INT and SPR.
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Is Swo1 - Pelt3 - Rod2 - Squ1 - Murm1 viable?
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>>157302610
a pretty shitty murm if you ask me
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>>157302610
Eh... Sworman C1 - Peltasta C3 - Rodelero C3 - Murmillo C1 works better, but whatever floats your goat.
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>>157302646
>>157302669

Might just go Rod3 then. I like the Squire outfit and the idea of a little utility but if it's going to gimp me I'll avoid it
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>>157302610
Pelt2Rod3 if you really want squire.
No idea why you do though.
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>>157302727
Squire could work, just not in that build. Maybe on a Barbarian/Squire you can get things done.

On another note, what cool is the Inquisitor and Redel, Zucken and Zornhau with the new attributes?
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>tfw cute boy
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What pet should I have as a Hunter? Hoglan or Battle Bird?

Yeah! Monk C3 Costume!
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>>157302820
>Redel
Unboosted Redel with the att is doing around the damage I was doing with 10 deeds stacks, cleave, concentrate, 2 warcry targets and gung ho, if not more. I need to test it a bit, still

Didn't get the other two yet
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>>157303171
Geebus! That sounds like some sick damage. I need to get to R8 with my Doppelsöeldner fast.
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>>157302987
tfw bunny boy
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>>157303239
Yeah, went testing it a bit on some mobs and the 180% boost seems to be about right, which is great went you consider how insane r8 mobs are

On another note, I think I'm starting to understand what the sword3 doppel3 meme was all about. While mine is fairly underlevelled, Cyclone can't seem to kill these r8 mobs fast enough, unless you're Devil and have shitloads of money spent in atts and transcendence/refinement. If you're entirely reliant on it, you'll probably have a hard time there, Restrain would make this much easier, yeah.

I believe Redel/Zucken/Zornhau with their atts should be enough burst to kill pretty much any mob you're facing, but like I said, I only got Redel's att so far.
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>>157303912
I guess you could burst them down with the Cleave Debuff, with Helm Chopper stun, and burning all Redel, Zornhau and Zucken during the debuff, but like you said that requires some testing, more so if we compare it to the Restraim build. Thanks the info, anon. Please let us know when you get the other ones so we can see what's the deal about them.
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>doing gesti cave with guildmate Pala3Inquisitor DEX and CON specced
>Green Flak pulled
>Disapeared
>Conviction+God Smash just nuked the whole 380k hp of it
>mfw
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>>157304240
DEUS VULT!!... I mean DEIVE VULT!
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>>157302491
Nah they just need better shit you could do. Like if Alchs had shops instead of using market, and they could only put in 4 kinds of potions. They'd all do HP and SP, but you'd get to see the other types of potions to and different people could sell different ones, assuming IMC made them worthwhile to make. So you'd have roasting shops, potion shops, and then make briquetting not shit so you could have briquetting shops too. Awakening is also too hard to do as a service and get paid for it, so it could have some sort of shop-like thing that still allowed the alch to go in if they wanted.

Potions need to stack so they can't scale off anything but levels, but magnum opus should be able to make other types like those combined hp/sp potions and stronger hp/sp potions, so those who invested time could sell even more kinds of potions in their 4 slot shop.

Repairs do have different levels at least so there are differences and you can set up in a place where you're basically alone so they're fine. Other shops will eventually run out of mats too, but players would probably wait with their red items until the others restocked, like the niggards they are. Weapon and armor maint maybe could scale with something though.

Pardoners: same way as alchs, make them able to sell lots of different useful things instead of being blessing and aspersion distributors. Even just selling the skill scrolls through a shop would be better. Even just let them sell the mdef increasing spell.

That's one good thing about player shops vs market: You have to go around and compare prices instead of just searching for the lowest price on a board. If someone is just too lazy, then they'll just buy something not ridiculous priced.
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murmillo channel crasher here
gonna state the obvious assuming everyone knew this but me
headbutt's damage is doubled when wearinh helmet, so skill description is basically 2x damage what it actually says itll be
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>>157304071
Another tip: You're able to cancel Redel's animation locking midway by just walking and then use another skill, like Zucken(need to see if it also has an animation cancel, I thought it had but I can't seem to do it right now)/Zornhau/Cyclone, so you could Zwerchhau, cleave, redel, cancel into zucken, maybe cancel into zornhau/cyclone

I am really fucking this up in a proper fight though
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>>157305174
Animation is cancel is so fucking hard to pull. It took me weeks to put a cancel into Cleave. So, keep practicing and you will pull it off eventually.
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>>157304240
I need the uncropped version of this, for scientific reasons
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>>157305624
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2503092
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>>157303912
>>157304071
>>157305174

Just wanna say thanks for contributing. Not th eone you replied though but this is great info. Keep us posted man. Also can I ask what your build and stat allocation is and why?
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Kupoles are so cute
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>Doing the hammer quest in District 8
>North West area is empty so i can safely collect materials
>One mage mob spawns and attacks me
>Killed it while nearly being dead myself
>10 more mage mobs spawn ontop of me
>Die to 50 poles in an instant
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>>157303163
Battle bird, TP pets have more equipment slots than normal pets.
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>>157305954

Where's your magic defense?

Stop wearing leather!
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how do i buy enchant lightning again?
all i see are armor buff enchanter shops, nothing to do with enchant lightning
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>>157306261
you don't buy it anon, it's a buff enchanters can give (like blessing but they can't sell it or make a scroll out of it)
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Demon Lord Blut up in Tehvrin Cave fags
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>>157306224
I dont think changing my armor will save me from being raped with poles everywhere
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>>157305948
The doujisnhi are drawing themself
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>>157306440
>quitting
Even Orsha and Fedimian are more alive than ever
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>>157305836
I'm the one he was replying. My build is SwC1 - High C3 - Barb C1 - Doppel C1 at the moment. As for the stats, Total 40 CON, rest STR and DEX. More STR than DEX. CON is mostly for HP and survivability, DEX for Crit Rate, and STR for Physical Attack and Deeds scaling.

I will post my skill build later.
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>>157305836
High1Barb3Doppel3. Had a highlander3 since EA and it felt underwhelmning outside Cyclone (That one was 1:2 str dex), so I wanted to try something else. Barb feels really nice and complements Doppel well imo.

Went High STR for roleplaying purposes and deeds, I kinda enjoy the "high risk high reward" motif the class has, killing mobs while I'm red is satisfying to me

Invested (effective without equips)
249 (554) str
62 (85) con, 100 with Demonas Gauntlet
9 (16) dex

I'll pump dex from now on, I shouldn't have neglected it that much
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>>157306709
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>>157306646
>>157305836
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112666999.23354552.253545.5a648591aabf.1e315861768691 I'm still class 7. I'll obviously max Deeds, but I'll have that at my last skill point probably, I'll use some point to get Zornhau to 6 and maybe the rest on Cyclone

I'm not a meta doppel I guess, mostly because I want to see how good Zornhau, Zucken and Redel will be with these atts, so please have that in mind. If I get disappointed, then maybe I'll grab a reset skill potion and max Cyclone like all of the other memers are doing, but I don't think that'll be the case, considering how I'm liking this Redel attribute.
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>>157306991

A heads up, some have claimed you can have the attributes stay active after a skill reset. So getting Zornhau, Redel and Zucken to 6, buying the attributes and then resetting and maxing out Cyclone is what is said to work.

I don't know if this is true but it seems to be the case for every class out there.
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>>157306382
Put on some abomination cards and those anti-dark equipment.
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>>157306709

Level 315 almost entirely solo using nothing but pyromancer spells and buffs.

If the fire necklace multiplies final damage, once it gets added my fireballs will hit for almost 200k damage each and I can drop 2 at a time.
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>>157307241
What necklace?
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>>157307273

There is a necklace in Korean version that massively amplifies fire damage abilities. Think it's called Agni Necklace or something.
I know it's around a 400% boost for Pyromancer spells and like a 200% boost for Elementalist spells.
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thanks Kim
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>>157307120
I know that much, but I just want to see if I'd rather have a stronger redel/zornhau/zucken than having a cyclone 15. I already like these c2 skills and I see that they have potential. Like I said earlier, they're better suited to burst with Zwerchhau and Cleave, while Cyclone is better at consistent dps.
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Holy shit, smite is really 3x dmg on mutant and devil monster now. All featherfoot skills are poison now as well

Check tos-kr.neet.tv with google trans.

Kek, featherfoots are not going to be able to kill any high lvl mobs now with them being 99% poison, haha.
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>>157307735

Unless there was a new update today then why would Featherfoot skills be poison? They've been dark for ages.
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The sound effects of infinite reflects is perfect
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>>157307923
>Unless there was a new update toda
Ktos is updated every thursday, Korea time (UTC+ 9:00 or +10:00)

>>157307987
What exactly is going on there
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>>157308103
Sevenfold applied on invicible NPC glitch into unlimited sevenfold
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>>157308103
>What exactly is going on there
The Kupole is immune to damage I think but she still triggers x7 when attacked, without consuming the buff.
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>>157308103
7fold lasting for it's whole duration on "hidden" npcs and the buff doesn't get removed when it procs.
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>>157308194
yes
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>>157306603
>>157305836
This is my skill build.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112622999.23354552.1126364655657a8195.91b5.1f31415566768a91

I like Cyclone, but I kinda what to see the whole powerhouse of the Doppelsöeldners with the other skills. Besides, the "You can get the attributes and then reset to get maximum Cyclone" might be fixed soon, and I'm out of Skill Resets.
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I really like this game

picture unrelated btw
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reminder to report shitposting (You) baiters
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R8 and the new mobs made me realize that Sorc3 actually does decently well against them.
Mdef is so ridiculous at times that I deal 1 damage to mobs, but TS still keeps chugging on with 8k+ volleys.
With JP 5 that's 40-50k a shot, and it can tank well enough and be buffed with Missile Hole.
I've become a support for my summon, and I'm having fun.
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>>157309504
Americans are asleep right now so no need for this yet. Soon though. Give it 3 hours.
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>>157299762
In pvp and for certain classes (auto attack classes and classes with skills without a cooldown) are latency dependent. Otherwise, its fine. BnS is way more dependent on latency and BDO basically gave you a free win if you lagged like shit. Hard to compare the two

The best part is that the ping differences between most of EU and NA servers for EU players is about 20-50 ms depending on how far inland you live. The servers are on the East coast for once so you dont have that mega distance that most companies force on us EU players. I get about 120-170 on average from france for example, on the NA server and about 60-110 on the EU server, so its not really bad at all for me.
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>all these people whining and rage quitting because of crashes
>mfw been crashing since day 1 because of potato pc
>mfw you merely adopted the crash, i was born in it, molded by
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>>157310003
>>157299762

Not him but I'll add to this. I live in Finland and I get an average of 60 to 80 ms on the European server and over 200 ms on the American server. The server is located in Germany as far as I know so I don't know how someone living in France can get pings like that.

Regardless I think timezone is very important now. If you join the American server you'll have to stay up past midnight to join grind groups because the people who play on the US server are from all over of America. It's not really ideal if you want to do dungeons and grind and this game is heavily team based.

PvP is very reliant on ping. If you don't mind seeing teleporting players on top of bad performance issues and unstable servers then US is for you. If you want to stay competitive and play classes that have a lot of low cooldown abilities (Archers, Swords) then ping matters, quit a lot.

Huge ping adds delays everywhere. Animations last a fraction longer and if you have overcharges in skills you won't be able to perform multiple casts really fast. It can get very infuriating in a game as competitive as TOS.
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So where are all the white R8 weapons? Please dont tell me the only new weapons we get are purple and reds that are impossible to craft
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>>157309691
>Sorc
>fun

Until you died in 4-star map and lost your lv10 TS cards
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>>157311096
>Dying
what kind of shitter build do you have anon?
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>>157311050

Not in the game yet.

Strangely they are in the game files, just not obtainable.

Also getting any of the new purple or red gear requires you be level 317 and quest on the last map in the game. You'll need a party for this guaranteed.
After that you've got to do a once per day quest which has like a 12.5% chance of giving the item you need.
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>>157311050
>Please dont tell me the only new weapons we get are purple and reds that are impossible to craft
Anon...
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>>157311096
That actually happened at Syla Forest, some mob does a sort of swooping melee attack that caught me off guard.
I dropped maybe half my cards, panicked and revived with an orb.
I got all my cards back.
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>>157311207
>>157311230
How the fuck does imc expect people do deal with these retarded hp sponges without weapon upgrades
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>>157311385
just +your weapon some more and transcend it. It's the players
>Don't upgrade anything til 220
>Don't even buy new armor until 170
>Potions and buffs are for jews
>Gotta save my shards for BiS 317 weapon
kind of thinking that creates problems. There are also dozens of gimmicks that give you potions that boost your attack and stuff. By the time you're all buffed and hopped up on potions, you'll have way more damage.
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What happens if I fail to transcend my weapon?
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>>157311842
You lose the gem
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>>157311336
Can you drop the equipped ones?
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Now that RodoMurm is confirmed PvP God, what's the best class for 2v2 together with them?
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>>157311842
-1
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>>157312048
haha no kys LP
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>>157312038
None of my equipped ones and the ones in my grimoire dropped.
But then again only half of my cards dropped, so it might be random.
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>>157309320
lolipan posted this.
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>>157312151
>wizcuck on damage control
lmao
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>>157311385

Who the fuck knows what IMC are thinking.

Easiest way to play right now is quest as a party and exploit exploration bonus for massive exp. All the new cards (minus kill counts) are enough to go from 280 to 330 without needing to grind once.

Questing isn't even hard since 80% of the new quests are just interact with shit and can be done really quickly.
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Lewd
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>315 recipes have dropped in value from 10 million to 100k in a day because everyones realised how worthless they are

Glad I got in a few early runs. Made a quick 14 million silver before the priced on them plummeted.
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>>157312404
BLACKED
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>>157312232
>enough to go from 280 to 330 without needing to grind once.

Let me ask, is there going to be a consequence for this? I assume r9 wont come till 5-6 months? so is there any risk in just rushing it to 330?
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>>157312507

You'll hit class level 15 at around 315. Any cards you use after that are basically wasted class exp if rank 9 was ever added.

Although at the moment, there isn't really any reason to level above 317.
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>>157312507
>r9 wont come till 5-6 months
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>>157312048
>murmilmad
>shit damage, shit movement speed
>"b-but muh strike debuffs"
lawl
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>>157312507
>>157312610
>>157312767
You really think this game will be alive by Rank 9?
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>>157313226
This game is already dead m8.
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murmillo here
trying to crash bee farmers
whenever i crash, it looks like im the only one that crashes
game is saved? enjoy your afk farming and ruin the game more i guess
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Honestly, I think IMC learned something regarding rank ups: if they keep coming every two months like small seasons, the game can get a good extra year afterlife.
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>Brown colored eye lenses

Great job IMC!
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aww yiss
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>>157313894

It's a shame a lot of classes are really fucking bad right now and half assed to fuck.

Adding new ranks is cool and all, but at least finish the damned classes first.
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>>157313963
HOW?!
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Who /stillrank7shitter/ here ;-;
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>>157314023


but those extra ranks sorta can work that way: see how cool peltasta and rodeleros are now and barbarians/highlanders arein't suiciding past lv 200 after they see how great fencer/doppel are. Hoplites were always good/decent and dragoon 2 come to stay.

Clerics are overall broken but the weakest one (sadhu) and paladin gained some buffs yesterday

archer and wizards are fine too (skills/class wise), imc just fucked up on that monster's mdef thing, but again, it can be changed without even touching the classes. Maybe with int mdef penetration or just rework the numbers
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I'm scared bros, after a month or two we would have exhausted the new content and be back at doing dailies, and I assume that IF r9 is coming it wouldnt be in half a year so there would be like 5 month of dailies void that COULD really kill the game, and with IMC i cannot think of any bullshit event to keep players in until the eventual rank up
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>>157314023
They haven't even finished the ones up to R7...
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>>157314120
>rank7
lol nerd I'm rank 4. ;_;
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Tfw I'm not swaaz
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Vakarine and Gesti are my sex slaves!
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>>157314220

A lot of Wizard classes need reworking. Although people gave Wizards shit, they had the most amount of unviable classes. The two new Wizard classes are complete shit with one of them hands down being the worst class the game has ever seen.

Most of the rank 8 classes are not even finished. Man, some rank 7 classes feel unfinished.
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>>157313963
Uhmm.
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>>157314081
just a x8 tome and a jumbo dumpling in a mission
and I'm only Team Level 6.
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>>157314264
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>be me
>lv 6x swordie
>30 minutes/level if grinding
>too arsed/retarded to care about quests
>still curious as fuck how does my build will perform at rank 8
I'd unironically pay for a powerleveling service at this rate.
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>>157314481
>too arsed/retarded to care about quests
Prime example of swordcuck, everyone.
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>>157314264
Do NOT bully Swaaz
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>>157314569
Do not bully swords.

>>157314481
I think I replied to you yesterday about grinding in early levels. Just a heads up, I hope you did the level 50 dungeon. No joke 3x runs (if you got a token) will get you up to 70+. The entrance is in Tenet Garden and there's another entrance in Novaha too. Do it, you won't regret it.

Also if you are new there are quest lines on both sides, Orsha and Klaipeda. Many here will say it's not worth it to do both but note that Orsha side quests give silver and a lot of exp.

Basically there are 2 quest routes that meet up at various points but one starts from Klaipedia and another from Orsha. They both meet up in Fedimian town at level 100. If you do both routes you will end up level 130 easily in 2 to 3 days. That's being lazy and ignoring dungeons.
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>>157314569
Shut up, nerd.
powerleveling service when
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>>157314742
Literally here for free

Too bad spots are filled :^)
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>>157314402

what the fuck, anon

sage is incredibly useful, borderline broken utility with missile hole and the other skills have potential, just remember that they are a c1 class

enchanter is a shoper's meme, the buffs they sell are good (specially the mdef one) and will be even better in the future, again, another utility c1 class

just because imc didn't gave wizard a true dps class at r8 it does not mean they are usuless. literally the only reason elememe was stopped was the mdef bangaloo, otherwise 400k frost clould would still happen and that more than half of the mobs hp

IMO imc's main headeache regarding wizards is the fucking quickcast, every new class will be balanced around it, they can't just give a good dps class for wizard to be good by itself 9except maybe a new summoner) because it will be broken with qc, so they need to make a class that will use quickcast to be balance since everyone will and the other who didn't get memecast are doomed to support/utility
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>>157314742
At that level just pm a friendly warlock.
I guess that might be hard now though, since most warlocks killed themselves with r8.
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>>157314735
>I hope you did the level 50 dungeon.
I actually -tried- and gave up waiting one hour for someone else to come by. So I kept following a few main quests until I ended up in another decent grindy spot. So here I am, killing 20 cunts at once every 20 seconds or so.
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>>157314735
Chuck Norris can queue for a dungeon and ACTUALLY GET IN!
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how does the mdef buff work for enchanter?
it gives +5% boosted magic def to an item, but there arent any items besides jewerly which have base mdef? and u cant buff jewerly?
theres a slut in fedi ch1 saying his mdef buff makes ur mdef 2000+ and i bought it and it gave nothing and im still 400mdef
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>>157314951
>>157314952

Well I'm on Fedimian server and I did 3x runs no problem and someone even used dumpings. Sorry to hear. There were like 12 people queuing up even after I had done mine.
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>>157315004
put it on all your items that you can and see what happens
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>>157314820

>Enchanter buffs
>Useful

15% MDEF is nothing when mobs HIT FOR 5K DAMAGE. Even with the best armor in the game, you will never be able to reduce that magic damage by any significant amount.

They're also the worst vendor in the game. Enchants last an entire day and cannot ever be removed by anything so if people even bother using them, they'll use them once a day and you'll pocket your 50 silver.

Enchanters ARE shit because they were a rushed last minute addition. Taoist was originally the rank 8 wizard class, but IMC changed it to cleric and had to fill the gap with something. So we got Enchanter.

At this point the only way for IMC to save Enchanter is to redesign the class. Maybe give it the Centurion treatment and remove it for something else and then readd it later as a 1 rank hidden class.
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>>157314813
T-that is where I am grinding. If you see a retarded swordie wandering around, it's probably me.
>>157314898
>pm a friendly warlock.
I don't have friends.
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>>157298480
Rogue or Falconer.
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>>157315145
My friend, go to Pelke shrine ruins and do all the quests there and follow the questline
It's lvl 4 cards
they will help tremendously
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>>157315240
>Pelke shrine
Okay, fine. I'll do it.
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>>157315120

enchanter can be fixed with two new skills at c2 and two or three attributes, lol
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>>157315004

It's 5% of your total MDEF per buff. You can get 3 at most. So basically +15%.

I go from 452 to 519 magic defence with all 3 active. That translates into being hit for 3950 instead of 4000 damage.
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>>157315120
I like enchanters. I get +82 CON from them.
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>>157315537
wow soo useful
thanks for info though
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Can someone help me defeat Glutton in the Elgos Main Abbey quest?
Fucker clears my buffs and one shots me.

Orsha ch1 btw.
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>>157315537
>That translates into being hit for 3950 instead of 4000 damage
That's not how it works.
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where do rafflet flowers drop?
apparently they transmute into brown colimen flowers
so now itll cost literally 400k silver to make a terrallion amulet with how cheap the recipes are
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Why are there so few Hakkas in the game? Did every fletcher go Mergen at Rank 8?
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>>157315615
klaipeda?
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>>157315615
Was Glutton always like this? I don't remember having a R8 boss in the abbey when I did it, but I keep having to help guildie alts with that abomination.
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>>157315486

Agility doesn't do anything. The effect on it is so stupidly weak even in the most ideal situations it translates into about a 1 in 300 chance of avoiding an attack.

Empowering is useless. The level gap was increased to 20 so +5 effective levels means nothing.

Enchant Lightning is their only good ability. It's shit on it's own because 500 damage at rank 8 is nothing.
It's only highly situationally useful in a party with a Taoist. But the AOE on Enchant Lightning is so tiny you got to make sure people group up to use it.

Crafting Scrolls is useless for anyone but a Linker to take for Joint Penalty (the only useful scroll Enchanters can make).

Enchant Armor has one barely useful effect and another highly situational.

>>157315709

When enemies have 1500+ magic attack, going from 450 mdef to 520 has no noticeable effect on how much damage they deal to you. Every enemy past rank 8 has that much magic attack.
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Can anyone tell me when they added these new repeatable quests? Been seeing them all over the place. Pretty nice.
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>>157315824

For some reason IMC buffed a lot of mobs in lower level areas.

Socket Mages are fucking nightmares now. Spam Magnetic Force none stop while destroying your ass.
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So, r8 has been there for a few days, post your server's ranking.

Here is Silute's, 5x5 at the left, subhuman 2x2 at the right. I was expecting to see more Inquisitors and Sages, but maybe one of their skills are causing crashes, not sure.
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>>157315835
>from 450 mdef to 520 mdef
That is a very low value, even for r7.
Of course a % of a low number won't give you unlimited defense, is still pretty nice for people above 1.5k magical defense.
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>>157315928

Sages are shit. Wizards are shit.

Ironically this makes Inquisitors shit because they're antimages.
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>>157315537

that on top of a 4 pice cloth set (you are using cloth, right?) is pretty big desu

I mean, instead of being two-shot you can survive a third one, at least you get some time to react
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>>157315928
Rankings are bugged and no one who's serious about PvP is doing it with all the crashes.
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>>157315871
They added those around they time they added new quests up to maven abbey, so pre-r8
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>>157315980

>That is a low amount

Using full Grynas armor and a superior guardian necklace.

I could switch to cloth armor and get more. But then I die in 1 hit to the melee mobs (which are much more numerous). 400-500 MDEF at rank 8 is normal outside of buffs or seriously maxed out gear (or someone foolish enough to use cloth armor).

I'm also a Thaumaturge, and even with the +200 mdef my swell arm provides, mage mobs don't deal less damage to me. I still die in 3 hits.

>>157316013

If you use cloth armor, melee mobs slap you for 5k damage instead. And melee mobs are much more common than mage mobs.
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>>157316226
>Using full Grynas armor and a superior guardian necklace
Upgrade your bracelets and necklaces anon.
>I still die in 3 hits
That's 1 more hit then the average.

>melee mobs slap you for 5k damage instead
Oh come on, why are you getting hit from melee mobs?
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>>157316340
not that anon, but somehow I can't always dodge the spinning axe niggas in 1f cave, they hurt so much sadpopo.jpg
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>>157316340

Upgrading them gives like 4 mdef per upgrade. It's literally nothing. I will die in 3 hits whether they're +0 or +20.

>Oh come on, why are you getting hit from melee mobs?

Because the new melee mobs have ranged attacks that auto lock on to you from massive range. I've ran into a few that used some kind of melee version of spiral arrow and even with 1200 defence I took like 8000 damage.
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>>157315783
>>157315824
It's doing 17K damage with its AoE roar.
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>>157316226

you gotta switch sometimes, specially the armor. See: slash spin mobs.

I have a very high evasion and DEF even with cloth set, it's the best EHP you can get on mixed damage maps.

And there are retarded that say that restrain 5 is better than guardian, lmao
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http://pastebin.com/YVViL85E

It's time!
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>>157316503
I feel like we need the 315 gear to even not get 3-shot (the shield gives like +300 mdef), but the problem is actually getting there (also need 317 for the daily quest), thanks imc
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>>157316079

Ranks are fixed now, just post your server's one.

But the crashing shit is really a big issue, it was hard to farm my daily 50 yesterday
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>>157316709

That's it IMC. Keep nerfing wizards and buffing clerics.
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>>157316538
>lmao

It's starting anons....

That being said 18% evasion bonus is great but I see the merit in Restrain for certain multi-aoe hitting classes, mainly Doppel and Catagoons. I wouldn't ever go full C3 or C2 just for this because you miss out on other possibilities. I'd choose guardian over restrain because it scales better.
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>>157316758

We need them to even stand a chance. Good luck grinding for them!

Realistically though, just party. Shit is easy as fuck with a party and there is no content in the game right now that even needs the 315 gear.
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>>157316709
>Fixed issue where you could cure the 'bleeding' debuff by simply right-clicking it.
what, does that mean we have that in itos?
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>>157316709
> With Premade Party Members you can sign up and join auto-matched Dungeons/Missions together.
This is huge.
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>>157316709
>Psychic propriety
The fuck is that?
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>>157317291
>- Now displays the featured Bosses and Obtainable Items from each designated dungeon.
This is even better. Took them long enough to do this though
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>>157317373
-25% on holy and dark, -50% on itself
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>>157317439
At least now I'll know if Peta actually drops from Harpy.
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>>157317548
So that's the Soul in the old chart?
Will some mobs change to Psychic now?
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>- With Premade Party Members you can sign up and join auto-matched Dungeons/Missions together.
>- With Premade Party Members you can sign up and join auto-matched Dungeons/Missions together.
>- With Premade Party Members you can sign up and join auto-matched Dungeons/Missions together.
>- With Premade Party Members you can sign up and join auto-matched Dungeons/Missions together.
>- With Premade Party Members you can sign up and join auto-matched Dungeons/Missions together.
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uhmmm
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>>157316709

>Rank 8 monsters got nerfed
>Armor is more effective at higher ranks

Maybe we'll get this patch in a few months and the game will be playable.
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>>157317548
Not even not-elememes are safe from kim. Who will stop the madman?
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>>157317670
>So that's the Soul in the old chart?
Think so

>Will some mobs change to Psychic now?
That's a good question, that might be the case.

>ies.ipf/monster.tsv
>Diff suppressed (Too long).
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Since Warlock is kind of terrible as a C2 and we don't know what it will be like in C3, what else could an Elementalist take for their rank 7 and 8? Something to boost their damage. I'm thinking linker/thauma/chrono or something along those lines or even cryo/pyro for those rare attribute effects that elementalist has.

Just brainstorming. I mean there is the Agni necklace coming around the corner and 2 ranks of pyro doesn't seem like a bad idea. You'd have a lot of AoE potential with fire pillars and frost clouds.

Or whatever.
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>>157317813

Heh that's a world boss, be careful bro! Some high levels will come clean it up soon I think.
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>>157318328
Higher ranks have better scaling than lower ranks, not picking WL will be a loss of dmg overall.
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>>157298807
On poison resist enemies, that'd be a 25% dmg nerf, but a 50% dmg buff against everything else. Which is not only great for extra damage, but you get significantly more healing from Blood Sucking too, which will be amazing.

Now if only people could sell the god damn Intasurta Gloves.
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I want to lick Capyba tights.
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>>157318328
Ele is shit and will be as long as they don't heavily reduce the magic defense of r8 mobs.

That said, the gable is between warlock3 being good or not.
Considering the dark change, I'd say fuck it and take something else.

>Pyro2
Best one, but fully reliant on Agni, if a new necklace, for example an Ice one, rolls out it will be shit.
>Linker2
CC, multiply yours and your part damage, very strong.
>Thaum2
Help offset the high magic defense mobs have now, give you some handy defense and farming tool too.
Chrono2 is utter shit.

You could even consider Necro2, since Flesh Cannon has a quite huge base damage.

>>157318607
That is not true, warlock2 is currently shit and outclassed by lower rank circles like linker.
Warlock3 has the potential to be good however, but by the time r9 comes here you'll have the time to reroll something else or Class Reset will be a thing.
We could also get a r9 damage class that completely invalidates Warlock3 by how strong its first circle will be.
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>13 lvls from 3 mission runs
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>>157319289
Lvl 100?
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Feels good outdps'ing a Dragoon2 and a Doppelmadara. Although not sure if it's because of flying advantage and the Dragoon2 had just 1 rank in Hoplite. But to be fair, I also came in late, around 50% when I came and I'm severely underleveled against the 2 swordies (Doppel was 302).
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Monster Cards - Fixed issues with Golem, Glass Mole, Chapparition, Progola, Manticen Cards overlapping card effects.

What does this meme?
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>>157319596

Hope you got lots of TP!
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>>157319596
You can't Meltis stack them anymore
Now they refresh without adding another stack of physical/magc attack
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>>157319704
Well, we knew this was coming sooner or later.
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>still need to quest at inner wall 9
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>>157319478
Fletchers will always be top dps on flying

Also you dont know how many attributes these niggas have
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>>157319596

So the marketplace will soon have a lot of these cards lvl 10 on sale. Great!
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>>157319990

You mean level 9 cards.
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Does anyone have a list of the quests that have the agro effect? I'm currently leveling and I don't want to accidentally deliver them and I hear there's quite a few.
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>>157316709
>Monster Cards - Fixed issues with Golem, Glass Mole, Chapparition, Progola, Manticen Cards overlapping card effects.
the dream is dead
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AFK farming has gotten waaaaay easier.
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>>157319950
>still cant kill the 8 mages at inner wall 8
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>>157320072
If you have 5 TP it doesn't go down in rank and I won't buy a lvl 9 card if there is a 10 on sale.
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>Players can now continue to search for parties whilst playing the game, however changing map will cancel your search for a party.

please, i want this update already
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>>157320215

>Wasting 5 TP on something that you're going to sell

But why?
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>>157320305
5 TP is free TP. It doesn't cost you anything. Wait, are you going to miss 5 megaphones or a single souls stone or not making a sale?
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>>157320305
>wasting 5 TP
>get 5 TP for free every day
>implies lv9 cards are worth as much as lv10
dude you high?
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>>157320156
I can help you
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>>157320391
>>157320409

I rather have a soul stone or 5 shit posts.

For me to consider using 5 TP to remove a card I'd sell, I'm sticking an extra 0 on the end of the price of it.
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Do costume become untradable/sellable when you buy it off the market?
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What stat should I choose if I want to go Bokor to PD for AOE Effigy?
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How long is the exp card exploration event going to last?
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>>157316226
>>157316013
>>157315537
>>157315004
You can upgrade jewelry, also there are Nuaele cards. I don't know if they stack, but if they do, that's up to 80% extra mdef and the 15% mdef from enchantment, then there's the specific anti-jewelry which will nullify like more than half of certain damage types.

>theres a slut in fedi ch1 saying his mdef buff makes ur mdef 2000+
They're probably a cryo and thaum. cryo gets extra mdef from shields, combine that with one of those shields that has like 100 mdef too, and thaum gives a few hundred mdef with a shield.
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>>157320691
25th
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>>157319950
Honestly Inner Wall 9 was a walk in the park compared to Inner Wall 8
Outer wall and City are lot easier, especially City where mobs deal 1 damage on plate+aspersion and the strongest mob deal 2k on a slow attack
You can do it, this wolf wish you luck
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Is there anything better than animus or something that converts SP regen into magic attack?
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>>157320713
>leveling up nuaele when its bound to be nerfed soon due to the pdef card giving literally nothing and the mdef card giving a ton of stats
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>>157321016
>Not using it while you have it
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>>157319990
>Stacking meltis bug gets fixed, no more +80% into +160% going for +320%
>Everyone just throw out of the window their Lv10 Glass Mole
Sureeee
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>>157307673
Holy shit botchan is back!
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>>157318907
Join the Discord :^)
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So, anyone know how the new defence bonus works now?

Supposedly increases with rank some how. Any word on it yet?
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>>157321182
>botchan sets up repair stall literally 2 inches next to swaaz
thanks anon, great to see you back
asshole
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>New token item added
>It consumes all your dungeon/missions runs
>And multiplies exp/drop rates based on how many runs you got left

Would be nice if they gave us fucking 5 runs a day like Korea.
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>>157320475
could i meet you ch2 entrance of wall 8?
greatly appreciated
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>>157321497
>drop rates
Drops rates of what?
How would it even work with DPK?
Seems only worth when grinding for exp.
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>>157321579
>DPK for a dungeon run
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>>157321579

It multiplies drops. As in, if you have 3 runs left, a boss drops 3 cubes. Likewise, you'd get 3x exp and 3x gold.

It's essentially just doing all of your dungeon runs in one run instead of individually.

With the new tome changes to exp gained in Korea, this and and 8x tome, you can get like 30 mission runs with 1 8x tome for something insane like 200 million exp. 1 to 330 in a few days will be easily possible on Korea now (if you pay).
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>>157321629
I got how that item works completely wrong, I thought you'd the buff outside the dungeon.

>>157321805
That sounds amazing.
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Anyone got the chart with job rank and base level side by side?
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>>157321497
>>157321805
If his item is even real, is it actually something you can buy or is it just a drop like the dungeon clear scrolls?
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>Some optional effects obtained from Enchant Scrolls have been improved.

Remember how you finally got that hat with the 3 rolls you wanted?

Enjoy doing that all over again.

>>157322097

It's real. It's a random (rare) drop on a few specific maps.
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>critting 30k per line with piss poor r7 equips
>they said dexwolf is a meme

You know what? it fucking is, and I'm enjoying every second of it

and it has so far costed me 500k in sp pots, godbless my soul, its a strong form, and can take down 300k hp mobs in a few seconds, but damned if you cast a single spell, ruining your sp consumption and fucking you inside out.

I think i'll make an SR
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>use marketeer
>try to search for items
>it gets stuck
>crashes game
>says "tree of savior running" on steam
>search task manager, can't find TOS.exe or anything alike
>can't boot up the game now

help
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>>157322143
>Remember how you finally got that hat with the 3 rolls you wanted?
No anon.
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>>157322259

Well now you still don't have that hat! But other people get better rolls!
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>>157322201
help I even forced Steam to shut down but it didn't help
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>>157322201
Restart your PC, duh. Or restart steam at least.

It's called Client_tos.exe btw.
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>>157322484
No client_tos.exe on the list and I restarted Steam. Nothing. Shit. I guess rebooting is the only way.
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Remember to stay away from Oracles
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>>157322639
Never mind. There was a fucking notepad open with the error message and that apparently confused steam into thinking the game was still running.
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>>157322193
fucking this, I swear to god its possible to deal the same dps as a doppel but the upkeep is streinous
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I know this isn't the right thread but any news about that new shitty chinese ragnarok?
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>>157322729

Still haven't seen an oracle with this.
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>>157322892
Jon snow is king in da norf, you didnt miss much anon
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>guild members casually let it slip that they're not actually cute anime girls in real life
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Which dungeon to run for quick silver?
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>>157322991
Does it count if I'm a tranny
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>>157322991
Leave and don't ever look back.
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@157322991
Who would have thought?
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>>157322991
lol normalfags
>>
More Inquisitor discoveries made today:
Malleus cuts a targets INT and SPR in half, but that doesn't automatically mean Magic Attack cut in half, as monsters still have raw Matk sources, and players have gear like wands/maces.
The PVE silence attribute of Malleus does not scale with the attribute level
The debuff from Malleus does not lower the damage of activated Pears
Pears will activate on a magic based basic attack from monsters
All Pears will activate on a magic trigger, even not all of them are needed to kill the target.The extra Pears are just lost
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>>157323091
please be in london
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>>157322991
>playing this game delusional
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>>157323328
anon, does r7 work on your pears? do they reflect 1s like diev statues or actual damage like caltrops?
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>>157323091
Shut up Voxandra
>>
come que mission 300+
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>>157323675
kys ohayoutard
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>>157322905
Because only retards you first go Oracle2 and then Oracle3
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>>157323091
voxandra please
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>>157324061
>i went oracle 2 hoping oracle 3 shop would give me a bajillion silver
>find out the recipe requires super rare drops
>only have 2
>needs 6 more
>tfw i'm a retard
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>>157324668
You can buy them
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>>157324668
It also only lasts 24 hours
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>>157323091
Youre not welcome here, Voxandra
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>>157322991
If you actually pretend to be a girl then you need to kys
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>>157323641
I've seen the x7 buff on pears from a korean video, but i didnt get to see the damage it inflicted. I'm also guessing that since they can get the x7 buff, they can also be captured by rogues
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>>157324951
>pretend
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>>157324850
>>157324646
>>157323675
literally who

are you namedropping yourself for attention
>>
Is Frenzy any good?
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>>157324761
is this confirmed?
the gender transition isnt even permanent?
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>>157323869
please help
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If R9 and R10 were to simultaneously be released right now, I can skip R9 and be R10 right away. Heck, while I've done all the exploring bits, I haven't finished all the quests yet.

I'm tempted to eat all these cards and get to cap without grinding.But, it'll be a waste of all that class exp. Then again, if I grind now and save my cards by the end of r9 content I'll be saving cards for 10 or whatever.
>>
how many lizard ambers can i sell a manamana for?
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>>157312038
i died a few times in some high maps and lost 0 of my equipped cards. probably cant.

had all other in bank/alts
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Cards become untradable if you buy them from the market?
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>>157326114
no
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>>157326158
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>>157325990

Now do the same in Cave Section 4
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>>157325725
just use them

R9 class exp table will be increased a lot and they will add a fuck ton of new cards and shit. just like this time

>>157324646
>>157323675
>>157324850
LEAVE FOX SANDRA ALONE !
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>>157326361
>that whole cavern
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When does IMC give me my Didel Grand Karacha Dagger so Backstab stays useable?
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>>157326631
I hope blood stealer steals health
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>>157326701
>stab people with bloodstealer
>only get 300 HP
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>>157325725
Calculator is using Rank 8's exp table instead of the proper Rank 9s and 10s
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>>157320142
How do you do this?
>>
>be mergen
>do 2x centaur quest
>cant solo 2 1.2m hp magic bosses
>ask guild for help
>they cant into cutscene
>have them do the whoel questline until they reach Dog eat Dog
>start quest
>centaurs are now 3.8m hp and stronger
>guild and i cant finish it

what the fuck bros
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>>157322991

Good thing I'm in CuteNotLewd and don't know that feel
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>Marble Grand Cross requires 5 Practorum, 6 Didel Grand Crosses, and 500 logged consecutive cowposts on /tosg/
>>
Do SRs and Hakkas get any bonus stats when they mount their pets?
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>>157325372
It's ok. Even with the attribute, its just cumbersome
>>157325810
I doubt you'll find anyone with enough ambers but in my experience, usually averages 300k an amber
>>157326794
That'd be cash
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Holy shit, they fixed Coursing.
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>>157327224
>game literally punishes you for being a snitch

10/10 interactive game, kim
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>Max Marble Grand Cross requires 50 Practorum, 60 Didel Grand Crosses, and 5000 logged consecutive cowposts on /tosg/ and sending 20.000$ to Mr.Kims bank account
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>>157327224
I don't understand how everyone is having trouble on these quests.
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>>157327224
It's the new design, boss are easier solo
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>>157327538

Impractorium isn't even hard to get. Just got to be 317, do some quests then do a repeatable quest every day. Drop rate on it isn't even that bad.
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>>157327224
i finished this quest pretty easy
did it on day 1 too (after it was fixed ofc)
i spammed shout until i found 4 people, then i power-quested them to the boss quest
bosses spawn, i tell party to only focus on 1 while i aggro the other and run in a circle
>boss #1 dies easily, boss #2 for some reason slays 3/5 people.
>me and the healer left, neither of us considered decent dps, takes 10 mins to finish off the last 10% of his health
tl;dr just have 1 person run in a circle and distract one of them
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>>157327698
>a repeatable quest every day
source
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>>157327727
>i power-quested
lmao squirecuck, you are the one who got power-quested.
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>>157327727
>i finished this quest pretty easy
>had to get carried by 4 other people
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>>157327838

Korea?

It's on the very last map in the game. Got to do a few quests on it (min level 317) to make a NPC appear. Once he appears, you can do it once a day.

Quest isn't even hard but the reward is random. You get given a cube, open it and it has a chance of being a potion or another cube, open that cube and it has a chance of being either mithril or another cube. That last cube is practorium.
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>>157327727
>then i power-quested them to the boss quest
>guys free food lmao ;)
>;)
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>>157327375

>5 practorum
>literally 400kk
>for a qshiter weapon

toppest kekest
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>>157328340
ok, i'll try that soon.

>i write it on vg
is not a good source tho. i'v seen a lot of missinfo being posted here
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>>157328340
how much is a reroll for that cube?
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>>157328856

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFpBMTQe-tg

Look at the comment from the guy who uploaded the video.

1. Miswekan forest the quest all clear
2. Miswekan forest NPC Conversation and curtis (two kind of story.)
3. MIswekan forest all conversation and npc (two kind of story)
4. Talk and Curtis.
5. Talk and grand master of the useuka
6. Random opened the box, you can find.

Miswekan forest = Mishekan Forest

>>157329017

You can't reroll it. It's not the same kind of cube as you get from dungeons.
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>>157327727
>pelt 3/squire 3
why do you hate yourself, senpai
>>
>>157299260
But every Featherfoot takes Linker path
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>>157329087
that is better. does not say daily, but i will see that myself soon*tm

>>157329017
just get multiple alts to 317
>>
whats the cost of manamana in Lizard ambers?
>>
>>157329424
not everyone :^)
>>
>>157329424
some retard FFs go thaum lmao without taking any linker at all
>>
>>157329442

It is daily.

If it was once per character and only a chance of obtaining it it'd be dumb.

Also look at the guys video, he has 2 of them.
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>>157312465
If its yuri does it still count though?
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/624326
oh nice, i'll get that

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/624129
maybe, not bad

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/624728
meh
>>
>>157318328
Pyro needs to be at least rank 2 to do anything worthwhile. Pyro2 needs at least Linker2 to not break their own links instantly.


Also: what the fuck is up with those archers using Bodkin Point? It one shots me with 22k health and 900ish pdef.
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>>157329639
Whats the point of asking a question in English if no one can understand it because only the words themselves are in English.
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>>157329808

Wow!
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>>157329808
>mage
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>>157329681
>>157329736
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdF-g5MHm48
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>>157329932
fine how many Lizard ambers can i trade for a manamana?
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>>157330405
Step 1:

Sell the ambers

Step 2:

Buy the mana mana

No one is gonna trade you a manamana for ambers unless they are a fencer trying to make their fucking veiner. Are you retarded?
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> - With Premade Party Members you can sign up and join auto-matched Dungeons/Missions together.

oh fuck yeah, about time
>>
>>157330485
no im bored
>>
Guns and Cannons now get the same modifiers as Pierce in general. Bows/Crossbows do not, for whatever reason.
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>>157330772
this?
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>lvl 130 mobs casting pole of agony

wew lad
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>>157330891
Yeah.
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>[Changes]
>- The guild level & max member cap have been increased.
> - Guild Level Cap: Lv.15 → Lv.20
> - Max players Cap: Lv.10 → Lv.15

>Guild
> - Guild masters can now grant permissions to other guild members, granting them the power to invite/expel members.

nice
closer to one TOSG guild

>Quest
> - New Quests have been added to the maps [Norbeer Forest] and [Yudejan Forest].
more Lv13s
>>
>>157330910

IMC buffed lots of mage mobs. Some are crazy now. Like insane.
>>
Are you guys care about Like point?
You know, the one below stat list
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>>157330891
>>157330949
im more interested in this change
might actually start leveling my kino
>>
>>157330960

>closer to one TOSG guild

We'll make all guilds have a death fight! The losers get absorbed into the winner until only one guild remains.
>>
>>157330960
two of us need to merge
>>
>run some calcs
>even with a with something as ridiculous as a 1500 patk weapon, 2STR:1DEX would still be about the best stat spread for Cyclone
>there are people here memeing about full dex doppels being a thing
>>
>>157329681
>>157329736
Holy shit, people do this?
Usually I don't really care about Public Builds become sometimes it's pretty stupid but that famous Linker-Sorc-FF build is the best FF build.
I tried it, It's really cool, the most show-off class I ever make
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>>157331158
merge cute with cutenlewd
merge Ohayou with FP
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>>157325570
Did you seriously believe that?
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Do you think I can stay in CNL's tower tonight?
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>>157331445

Since all ff skills are now poison on ktos starting today, it makes even less sense to not take linker.
>>
>>157331126
> Clover would've won
>>
>>157331572
>merge Ohayou with FP
I wish, but loli would never give up lead tbqh
>>
>>157325990
I fucking hate Nahash Forest
>>
>>157331572
This could work, if we didn't waste talt on four guilds.
>>
>>157330960

>meanwhile on the renegade servers
>STILL not full guild
>possible future of recruiting publicly or disband
>>
>>157331126
Clover beat FP
Ohayouclover beat FP often

not sure how many (decent pvp) ppl cute has

CnL could be stronk. They or Ohio wins.
>>
>>157328072
dude the entire quest chain for that map was easy af except the final boss
enough of the squire meme bullshit
>>157328123
nobody can solo those 2 bosses, i bet you never even did this quest asshole
>>157328358
squire food is really useful for a boss fight in which nobody including you can solo, problem?
>>157329196
why change the subject? if i hated myself id run a sheeple build and kiss ass to be a part of your circle jerk clique because i must do what everyone else does
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>>157331126

everyone ends up in crimson!
>>
>>157332078
you asked for replys like these by writing "i power-quested" when the map is easy as shit

>nobody can solo those 2 bosses, i bet you never even did this quest asshole
im not one of the ppl you quote, but i soloed it. im not even a healer or meta build
>>
>>157331834

How about this, everyone disbands.

And then, each of the former guilds would vote within their own guild on who gets to be their guild leader nominee. Each guild leader nominee would debate each other publically and the whole of tosg would vote on who gets to be guild leader.

We'll do it democratically and make /tosg/ great again.
>>
>>157331163
>>157331163

Deeds is basically a better crit

The only reason to go full dex on doppel is for evasion
Don't know how you want to survive the shit with 0 dex and no evasion and no def
>>
>>157332241
vote for swaaz
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>>157332241
>We'll do it democratically
>on 4chin
>on vg
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There is never going to be a true /tosg/ guild. You really think someone can attract all of these immature autists under one banner?
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>>157332234
unless youre some cleric hiding in safety zone or some scout build i can bet money you didnt solo 2.4m hp of 2 bosses which 1-hit most glass cannons
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>>157331445
> sorc/ff
Explain the build to me, last I asked everyone gave me shit for including sorc with ff
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>>157331572

There's no way that would work though, at least not for a long time.

Most of those guilds are full.
Even FP is doing fine now, the guild kinda died for a while after The Cuckening, it's almost at capacity. Lolipan even has a new lover now, Healmage, which is helping him finally get over how his ex boyfriend Atom left him and move on.

Hell, there are also literally enough /tosg/ in Crimson now to form another /tosg/ guild.
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>>157332580
>being willfully ignorant
it's 2 hours too early for swaazposting
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>>157332580
you'd lose that money

i soloed them with a weak wiz build.
was not fast ofc, but other ppl and your party also didnt do it fast.
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>>157332625
its Kinte's fault everyone jumped ship and joined the crimson clique
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>>157332241
kys
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>tfw you can't in a guild because you're a low level shitter
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>>157332818
>>157331053
negro what
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>>157332740
first boss dropped within 60 seconds, second boss did aoe and 1-hit 3 party members mid-fight
anyone claiming the boss to solo and that i "needed a party to carry me" is literally just trying to misinfo
>>157332818
FP - lolipan hasnt let cats lead yet
CnL - ERP
ohgayou - greedy jew leader
cute - hasnt shitposted enough to know what they're about
mfw you try and brag about being a member of a dead game's guild in which you do your dailies and log off like everyone else
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>>157332580
>nobody can solo those 2 bosses
>unless youre some cleric
I mean stop projecting about how bad your class is then
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>>157333045
but i did solo them and im sure other did too
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>>157332580
Not him, but pretty easy to solo for fletchers since you just drop DoTs and jump around in circles like a retard avoiding hits while things die on their own.

That said, the homing bolt attacks were indeed tricky to avoid since their reach is insane and can easily one-shot.
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spamming bleed and running around in a circle and hoping their random aoe doesnt 1-hit you doesnt = LEL squire needed party to carry him
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>>157333245
I think anyone that can kite has no trouble with the bosses, its just the melee classes that get instagibbed by the cleave

I accidentally stunlocked the bosses with plague vapor and incinerate hitting them like 6 times a second. Poor Centaurs didnt know what hit them.
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>>157331163
see >>157332347

evasion and critical are better than 400 more physical damage

critical resist is a thing and you'll want to get as much of crit as you possibly can
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>Gesti bossfight
This is such a bullshit tier fight
You just need to have some kind of invicibility
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>>157332208

Not me!

I'm the strongest! I'll win against everyone!
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>>157332757

It's actually Lolipan's fault.
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>>157333360
> LEL squire needed party to carry him
and not everyone said that

>hurr durr nobody can solo it
is more retarded than the ppl hating on that squire
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>>157333564
it all started with Alysse leaving really, and she left because she thought loli was a cuck
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>>157333674
>she thought loli was a cuck
>thought
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>>157333674
>thought
>she
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>>157333674
NOBODY is a fucking girl anon, wake the fuck up
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>>157332757
Kinte joined last though
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>>157334006

One(one) of the Crimson clique is a girl(girl)(not tranny), the rest are all boipussy who RP as girls
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>>157334042
>mfw Demon joined Crimson
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>>157334341
No, none of them are girls
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>>157334345
Why not? He's been alone this whole time! I'm glad he finally has a family
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Loli, I probably won't be online when you are. Good night.
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>>157334006
at least 2 here are
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>>157334683

They're girls(boys)!
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Is the glass mole card really going to happen or are we being trolled?

Also anyone know the list of the "aggro quests" that are in the game?
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>>157334006
Girl(You).
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>>157335161
>Is the glass mole card really going to happen or are we being trolled?
No, even without stacking they are still the best.
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>>157335015
You want to ERP with the crimson clique or something?

Hoping Rynn invites you under her barrel too?
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>>157331572
>merge Ohayou with FP
LOL kys traitors
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>>157333539
Useless revelators will be made into demon queen sex toys!
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>>157335516
what is with FP and this traitor meme anyways?

75% of their original members left so...
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>>157332818
>being low level
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Clarin...
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Can't find strength to play dead game with bugs. Still, can't forget it... Wtf, just leave my head, I want to go.
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>>157336093
Are you me?
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>>157336093
leave the drugs instead anon.
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the hell do i do with cards?
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>>157336251
>exp cards
use them, nigga

>boss cards
use or sell or feed (if they are worthless trash) to other cards
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>>157333539
What does she do?
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>>157336324
the hell happens when i use boss cards?
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>>157336448
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=501&vp=6
they give stats

sorc and necro can use them for some other shit
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>>157336359
Huge AoE hitting for 40k and various homming attacks
Plus she has very high magic def
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>>157310401
Veli

I played some and did some testing. I get about 160 to 300 ping to NA and 60-130 on EU. NA has very noticeable lag between action and response and it disconnects every 10 or so minutes. There's a lot of fluctuation in the latency for some reason. Definitely going to play on the EU server. Just gotta deal with all the germans and russians I guess.
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>>157337810
>germans and russians
It's mostly frenchies.
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>>157337279
mfw quest bosses are going to be harder than Demon lords soon
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Now, i am not a Blut expert
But i don't think thats how he is supposed to behave, not to mention the channel magically crashed like 2 minutes later
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Do Druids transformed into wolf get standard boss immunities or pain barrier or anything like that or is it basically a normal mob with a wolf skin?
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>>157338246
Looks like a hooker's work to me.
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>>157338246
>>157338638
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploit-gear-channel-crash/329171
TheRed is a pretty well known exploiters guild.
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is wiz3link2necro2ff a good idead?
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>>157338638
Nothing happened shitter,get good ehehehe :^)
>>157338246
10000% they were abusing some bug or hacking it, the fact they also crashed the channel when you found them just say everything alone
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>>157338246
gotta get that practonium
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What a sight!
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>>157338857
HIGH TENSION
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Is there any reason to play this game other than cute characters?
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>Every party member does nothing during torch phase of mission
>Not even standing there and autoattacking, just literally nothing
>They get mad when we actually fail
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>>157326903
just keep casting summon, works better in some zones.
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>>157331065
>Soul is weak to itself but no strong to anything
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>>157339815
Buy barrier scrolls then, fucking hell.
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>>157339975
I'd rather fail then let shitters who don't contribute continue
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>>157339815
what level? i'm around 235~ and i've never seen the torch go below 70%, does it get harder later on?
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>>157339815
>>157340451
It's good that they have some repurcussion now, still bugs me every time someone just runs away from the torch and afk's elsewhere though.
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>>157340462
it's mostly if people just sit away from the torch and let the monsters kill it.
missions are too crashy to play now anyway, it's easier to solo cm.
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>>157339953
you mean strong against holy,dark and soul
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>>157334683

t. girl
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>>157341012
If it's strong against soul, that means it's weak to soul. Why hurt itself by 50% more?
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When can oracle's change my guild leader into a girl so I can have lewd yuri ERP with him ?
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>>157341896
retard
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>>157341337
these are the old values

>>157331065
these are the new values
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>>157341952
i mean the old was -50 against itself and new is 50 against itself
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They should restore your HP to full when you enter the town.
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>>157342239
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure why this isn't a thing.
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hehe
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>>157342530

dont kill bot-kun
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>>157342239
Or add heal to the spell shop. inb4 jewing, you know it would be offered for free
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>>157342239
>>157342526
Why? What casual ass game does that? You're in town, you can just stand around and heal or some healer can cast heal on you, or you can buy potions or you can safely sit or anything. You're not going to take damage in town unless you duel.
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So lemme get this straight.
When the update introduced a gorillion game-breaking bugs that just make everything miserable, the dev team was all like "psh, we'll get around to them in the following weeks... maybe."

But when they learned that they accidentally made it so we got the same number of dungeon/mission runs as koreans, they SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.

I love IMC's priorities.
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>>157342639

it died soon after too lol
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>>157343118
They went to maint to fix the commander load fail bug and only 290 dungeon got 5 runs, the lower ones weren't affected.

In fact, I haven't seen anyone (here) say you couldn't still run the 290 5 times.
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Can Capture be used while mounted?
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>>157343496
no
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>>157343039
>FFXI
>casul
>implying you couldn't just run to your mog house/rent-a-room/nomad moogle for full heal in any town
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Is there a addon that allows me to automatically mount back after using a skill that forces me to dismount?
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Bug thanks to the subhuman swordcuck who just crashed fedi
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TFW this is my entire haul since the event started.

I haven't even been getting recipes the last few days, they just drop fairly often.
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>>157345058

That's strange. I've crafted like 3 dumplings today myself while leveling (missing 1 sesame and that'd be 4). Might be because you kill more mobs faster as a lower level.

When do these things vanish again?
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>>157341952
>this shit for soul

Thanks IMC, you hate Sadhus.
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>>157345404
25th I think, and I'm still barely in level for evac, which I run around every day for abrasives to the point I got another level out of it.(killing swarms of things to activate the pendulum) I seem to only really get drops beyond the occasional sugar or dumpling in missions.
I wish I had a tenet level alt. (no more space)
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Are there any gender change shops up yet?
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>>157345058

I get everything except recipes dropping.

Had 2 ever and got like 30 of the other items.
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>>157345824
yes
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>>157345058
i've gotten at least 40 of each ingredient and a bunch of scrolls just questing and doing killcounts. i've also been buying completed dumplings because they're cheap.
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>>157345404
They disappear on the 25th. Also you should stop saving your cards unless you really like grinding the low level areas for whatever reason, it's most efficient to pop em all to get to the higher level areas.
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>>157346503
I'm not saving them, I'm not using them so I stay withing 20 levels of areas I still have quests in. I've leveled multiple characters to 250+. I pop these as soon as I'm getting into areas not near my level. Thanks for the tip though.
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u mirin?
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>>157346947
Now show us your mdef without buffs.
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How long should I be running the 145 dungeon?
I'm currently at 150 but I'm afraid to use the cards because I don't want to end up fucking stuck
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>>157346503
Actually they get deleted on Nov 1, but yeah the event ends on the 25 / you can still craft them after the 25
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>>157347662
1048 with 3 armor enchants.
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In the end, we all became support cucks for the Temple Shooter.
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>>157346503
I used all of my cards as I got them and I was stuck on level 170
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>>157347761
use cards at 163 or 165. depends how many you got
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Is there a list of how many slots each pet has?
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>>157348271
How many days am I going to be doing this, from 150?
I've come to hate it with a passion so far
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>>157348141
It that the Succubutt?
Is she friendly now?
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>>157348382
i did last 145 run at 162. a bit low % by then.
use a exp card calculator addon or website.
you want to card to 177 or so, from 16x
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>>157348419
Demon Lord Diena. 2m HP(with 2 people), magic attack spammer. We got wiped eventually.

If you're on this quest, help us out.
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>>157348382
It's the dungeon that gives the best gold. You'll only stop doing it between them time you outlevel it and the time you get high enough to solo it properly.
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>>157348690
I'm asking, how many days does it take of running it to outlevel it so I can eat my cards and never need to see it again until then
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>>157348572
>If you're on this quest, help us out.
I don't even play this game anymore
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>>157348816
I'm pretty sure I just ran it one day and ate my cards after. Might have ran it the next day if I was still in level. I was doing missions and getting daily cards at that point.
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>>157348515
i just quested through that without much trouble.
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>>157298370
> critical (...) better than 400 more physical damage
It literally isn't for a Doppel, that's the point of that post. When I said 2:1 str dex, it was with points invested in those stats in mind, the effective would be 4:1 on a calc that had +900 from Warcry and a 1500 patk weapon, on deeds 15 obviously. Dex would only triumph over str on lower deeds stacks, and even so, not by much.

The best argument for going dex Doppel is survivability. It's not like you're going to dodge those sweet 2k+ damage homing magic bolts anyway, so you'll probably want some con.
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>>157348816
11 or 12 runs for me

(with team lvl ~32 and token. before R8 exp changes)
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Is it only my client that it's becoming hard to use the mouse to move around? It's like it's even less responsive than ever and I can't even move sometimes. I can click fine outside the game and the game works otherwise, but when moving, I just stop and can't move.
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>>157348816
160 is overkill, 155 is around fine, just make sure to do your daily quests
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>>157349567
>doing daily quests
I hope you don't to that anon.
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>>157349567
daily missions*
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So what are good sword builds? I just came back and I heard they're not shit anymore.
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>>157349141
Meant for >>157333487
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>>157349853
>please spoonfeed me meta builds
Fuck off.
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>>157349141
Can I see the calculations my man?

I wanna see how much dex I can use while still getting good deeds bonus
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>>157349141
With deeds you have 0 armor, meaning dodging is important or you suffer a lot. Magic damage is magic damage, everyone suffers with it so it's really a non factor. CON is relatively pointless because of how much gear gives you later on a few extra thousand points of health aren't going to do a massive difference. I'm in the progress of making a full DEX doppel. If it turns out shit I still have a stat reset.
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>>157350198
Are people really against sharing builds now? I remember that shit was in the FAQ a while ago but I don't see anything now.
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>>157349853
Murmillo or bust.
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>>157350828
It's just one asshole
People talk about it all the time, even though they aren't good at it
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>>157350685
>Girl(?)
>(?)
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Which guilds are recruiting? Fedi nerd here.
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>>157351234
>Fedi
There's only 1 guild there.
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>>157350685
>>157351158
Girl(Girl) !
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>>157351045
Well, someone mind helping in that case? I don't even need something extremely detailed, just an idea of what's good now. Back before I was leveling dragoon but now I heard doppel is decent too.
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>1969 mdef

Why IMC? Why...
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>>157351279
How much active players there?
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>content that has people shouting for parties
did R8 save ToS?
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>>157350238
I know it sounds like bullshit, but I can't show them to you right now, I'm not at home. Some months ago, a fletcher friend posted some calcs here about MA's average damage, I copied that from him and I'm using a modified version of it

His didn't have str/dex investment and effective str/dex and as I didn't find a place with one single formula for that, I estimated a linear formula on gretl. It seems to lowball the higher the stats go, but the variance is quite small, with the r^2 being almost 1, so it's a good estimate. As a result, the estimated damage checks with the damage I do in game, too.

Then I used excel's solver to find the Lagrangian, restricting points in dex and str to max stat points and got these results. Anyway, I think the Fletcher guy had that spreadsheet in a Google docs link? Don't remember it well.
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>>157351894
highlander>barb3>fencer3
highlander3>barb1>doppel3
pelt2>rodel3>murmillo
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>>157351894
What exactly do you want to do? Dragoon is nice now, Dethrone, a r2 skill, hits hard and on a ridiculous area. Serpentine also got a debuff that increases the melee damage mobs receive.
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>>157351894
meta is
high > barb 3 > doppel 3

dex heavy

2:1, 3:1 or full

it's still being argued which is best
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>>157352815
I was just wondering what other builds are viable so I could look up more info on them

>>157352594
Thanks, that's basically what I was asking for.
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>>157352496
>barely ppl to party with
>they slack, make 9001th alt, are still low rankshitters

no, didnt save ToS
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>Out of Body has been changed so that the spirit comes out infront of the caster.
What does it do now?
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>pop exp tome and dumpling
>go into mission
>tell scout not to use flare shot because it fucking crashes everyone don't fucking flare shot fuck
>uses flare shot on the furniture
>1/3 runs used
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>>157353303
You can re-enter shitmo
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Anyone know what Artilonium is used for?
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>>157353427
Yesterday in a 145 run everyone in the party crashed and we had to start from the beginning
Not him, so no, you can't always get back in
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>>157353427
Not if the whole fucking party crashes. You only re-enter if there's still people inside.
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>>157353150
Murmillo, Fencer, Dragoon and Doppel all seem pretty great now. Whatever you choose will depend on what you want to play.
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Fencer 3 here: if you want to be a new memencer, I suggest sword 3 pelt 1 cor/barb into fencer 3


Tos is Pain Barrier: the game now
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>>157353603
What about Lancers? Are they shit or the other Rank8 much better?
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>>157353427
If the entire party crashes all at once the dungeon closes and you lose a run.

Shitmo.
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>>157353706
They look like their entire skillset is designed for PvP
People seem to love dragoon more because dethrone lol
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>>157353303
it only crashes if you hold it for a second or two, tapping it is safe
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>>157353706
Haven't heard much about them, but they seem more focused around PvP, they're probably underwhelming outside that. I think there is one high ranked Lancer guy on kekpedo's scoreboard
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>>157353427
not when everybody crashes out, then the instance closes.
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>going dex
>when all the new bosses only use magic bullshit
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>>157353752
tree of solo runs
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bokorwolf memers, how is bokorwolf?
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>>157353696
I thought I was the only one having problems with this. Fuck bloody inner wall 8/9 and the *knocks you into the air*, *explodes and interrupts your skill*, not to mention the *dashes through you* and *spins in a wide area while hitting you 3 times*
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>>157353589
>Can't re-enter from a crash
>Half the time re-enter a dungeon after it's just been cleared and you relogged
WHY
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>>157354018

>Level 320+ mobs hit for 10k+ damage magic attacks

Have a nice day!
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Is critical attack a nice stat to have?
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How does the con boost from transcending armor even work? Says 1% of your CON, but I got some 5 extra points while having around 100 total
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>>157354690
Are you full con? If so, then bonus points.
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>>157354826
No, my char info tab shows 100 con
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>>157355063
Oh right. Dunno then.
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Who /havenoteventouchedrank8contentyet/ here?
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>>157354574
Which one isn't? Dumb Ohayou poster.
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Is this common for a cata build?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1124777ff.23354552.152535.152535.112f3f415865.152a3a55
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>>157355203
>Who /lowlvlshitter/ here?
not me
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>>157353603
I forgot to ask this, but is Pelt -> Hop3 -> Doppel -> Dragoon still the best way to go for dragoon?
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>>157355401
No, cata is a PvP class, most are sword3cata3xx for Restrain memes.
>>
Why does imc specifically block certain search words like "card" from market? There's not even a card category. It makes shit like orbs too hard to find.

Is there any workaround?
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>>157355548
Yes. Pelt got buffed (Guardian has percentage scaling), and so did hop3 (new att to do 20% more damage on medium size enemies, Spear throw now hits thrice).
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>>157355548
>pelt

no
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>>157298370
on a more serious note, Zaibas actually does > FC now that Chapparition Taoshi is a thing
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>>157355930
That's the joke.
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>>157355754
Right? They had to do with the market what they have done to our inventories, and increase the types of sorting available while they're at it
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>That feel when you enjoy just sitting in town doing nothing more than actually playing the game
>>
How much attack does warcry now give on 10 lvl 300 monsters?
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>>157356651
My inventory searching doesn't seem to work properly half the time and sorting seems to not actually organize things the way you'd think.
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is the 145 dungeon really the best one for silver farming?
assuming I can easily solo any of them
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you're welcome... fkn baddie
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>>157357698
290 is
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>>157357723
Do NOT bully LeCreme
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>>157357723
>>157357782
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Succubus status: REKT
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>>157357782
That gun has no trigger
But I agree that he's stupid
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>>157358045
Take that back
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>>157333045
cats leading from backseat
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>>157358443
Do not point a gun at Anon.
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>>157358443
Prove me wrong and I'll consider it
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>>157333045
It's really not a good idea to let Cats lead. He's likable enough but he doesn't seem to have any desire for surpassing where the themepark quest line ends.
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>>157358037

I can't even get to that quest because one of the prior quests has fucking mobs with 2000 mdef I just can't damage at all.

Man this is so dumb.
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>>157357782
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>>157358943
I can't even do Khonot Forest on my supportcucking mage. I do 1 (one) damage to mobs.
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>>157359339
I would run it with you right now if I didn't just get a vga error
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>>157359339
>supportcuck
>no bull to prep

Whats the point
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>>157358943
The Geniuses at IMC: "Just use physical attacks, duh!"
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>>157359339
Yeah the def values are kind of ludicrous, if you picked some early damage class to supplement a later support class you are pretty much screwed since earlier classes simply don't have the base damage to do anything to the mobs. Overall I think it's healthier that supports struggle to solo now though, this game has a ridiculous number of pure support builds relative to how popular they are in other games simply because of how strong and easy to play they are and having higher def mobs shifts the balance slightly away from multihits to bigger single hits and adds some emphasis on using debuffs.
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Leave LeCreme alone or else
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>>157359339
>supportcuck
>solo
>solo in r8
neck urself
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>>157359693

There are mobs right now that even with Thaumaturge buffs (+500ish matk) and Enchant Lightning (500 lightning damage on top of every hit) I literally can't hurt. 1 Damage to them and I am like 15 levels above them.

It's fucking retarded. Why do mobs have like 300 physical defence but 2000 magical defence? It's not like magic scales better, it can't even fucking critical hit!
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Why are people pretending a literal autist?
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>>157359903
>pretending a literal autist
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>>157359859
>It's not like magic scales better
>it can't even crit

Wizard tears are delicious. Enjoyr your R8, just like we swordies enjoyed R7.
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>>157360054
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>>157360064

Enjoy rank 9 when every mob has 30000 physical defence.
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>>157359859
The problem is that quickcast is functionally 100% crit rate with no stat or gear investment and since wizards threw a bitchfit at the idea of quickcast being nerfed all current content now has to be geared around magic potentially doing 50% more damage after factoring attribute levels on a class that can stack a single stat with rank bonus.
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>>157360138
you mean r9 when the game is finally dead and all servers shut own except maybe japan's?
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>>157360167

Quickcast and Linker needed removing long ago. If your Wizard build lacks one of these, it's not viable.

So fucking dumb how Wizards need to pick one (or both) of these two things. The entire Wizard tree is just fucked. So much variety shoved into it but most of it's complete shit and outclassed by a simple fucking damage buff.

I wonder if IMC will ever address the glaring fucking issues the game has with class design in general.
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>>157360138
I will. Until then, we're stuck here with Rank8 for a long while.

Also, we're actually both losers. Clerics watch the Swordie x Wizard pendulum and smiled, knowing that they're nerfproof and powercreepproof(unless you're Sadhu).
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>>157360358
ppl said that about R8 a few month ago
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>>157359339
why would you make a support class but not party?
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>>157360167
Your line of thought is stupid though because quick cast and attributes come after def calculations. That's not a reason for def values to be so high.
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>>157360138
>has 30000 physical defence.
>what is armor break
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>>157359693
The game was too easy before and I don't mind the new direction. But holy shit, don't make EVERYTHING have like 5x mdef over pdef, mix them up a bit jeez.
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MIKO

FUCKING

WHENNNN
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>>157360476
>immune
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>>157360573
>All the faggot fletchers who put only one or no points in bodkin will need to reset
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>>157360378

I still don't understand why Clerics in general are so fucking powerful.

Just look at Clerics heal. They're still using it at rank 8! A rank 1 ability that scales all the way into rank 8 and is so good there are no alternatives to it.
Imagine if a Swordsmans bash or one of their buffs scaled that well into rank 8. Same with Wizard, imagine if Energy Bolt was still good at rank 8.

And that doesn't even count the many buffs the various clerics get which all scale too well.
I wish my fucking buffs scaled that well. But they don't, they're flat scaling only and have been more or less useless since the rank after I got them.
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>>157360378
Why does right girl have a broken right hand on her left hand?
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>>157360463
That's exactly the reason. Wiz have a ridiculous non-conditional multiplier, so IMC added ridiculous MDEF values to mobs in order to keep the base value being multiplied low. Wiz damage potential is there but it requires a heavily transcended staff to overcome mobs magic defenses.
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>>157360751
Your thought is still stupid. It doesn't need to be that high to lower it. If they wanted to nerf, they'd make more ice mobs, flying mobs, and have things debuff you/buff themselves.

IMC just can't design a game and thought making retardedly high mdef monsters would make things more difficult instead of being retarded. The only balance they did was around their circle 10 GM characters.
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What's going on in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2f0RALVC5o
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>>157360751
quest mobs dont have to be like that. this is just IMC being retarded as always.
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>>157360981

With +99 gear, all stats maxed and gear not only fully transcended but also some new upgrade system that's going to come in a future patch that is just more pointless grinding.

Had to laugh when I saw the Sage skill video (the missile shield one) and the character just auto attacked for like 1 million damage. If that is how IMC balances the game then rank 8 makes perfect sense. They run around 1 shotting everything like you did at level 1.
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>>157360645
>Same with Wizard, imagine if Energy Bolt was still good at rank 8.
Sleep and lethargy are still good, and energy bolt is at least more than an auto attack, even more with the enemy being sleep, so it's SOMETHING. Also energy bolt isn't really "good" at any point.

A better comparison would be if Reflect Shield was as useful as Safety Zone.
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>>157360378
>unless you're Sadhu
>mfw Shitdu3Kabba2
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>>157361228

Heal still needs massively nerfing then several of the support oriented cleric classes need their own version of heal with higher base heal amounts.

If a damage dealing class has to invest in damage dealing abilities at higher ranks, then why the fuck doesn't a healer need to invest in more heals at higher ranks?

Reflect shield use to be great. Use to act like Surespell while it was active but IMC didn't like that and removed it.

But we both agree, Clerics just scale the best out of any class. Almost all of their abilities are useful at any rank.
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>10 minutes
>STILL waiting for TBL match

The bugs & crashes have driven everyone off, huh?
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>magecucks bawling their eyes out again
8 months of dominating damage wasn't enough

cry more please, I'm enjoying all of this so fucking much

please do fucking quit, no one needs you in this game anymore lmao
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>>157361376
Does that skill that makes multihits work with oob?

>>157361483
>several of the support oriented cleric classes need their own version of heal with higher base heal amounts.

They do. Mass heal, etc.
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Where can I find the list of the new maps added? I want to explore them all before the event ends.
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>>157361586
http://toscamp.com/map/map4.1.php?lang=en
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>>157361579

I've got like 8 damage dealing abilities.

Clerics should have 8 heals at rank 8. That or my damage dealing abilities need to scale as well as a Clerics heals do.
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>>157361569
seems like everyones getting cucked though. I mean even Murmillo gods are begging for parties
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>>157361579
Dunno, just hit Kabba2 and already wanna kill my self.
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>>157361586
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/world-map
>>157361664
sucks ass
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>>157361732

After a certain point, no one can solo anymore.
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>>157361845
Why do you shill that site all the time while having vendettas against tosbase and any other info site?
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>>157359859
>he can't 2 shot a 500k health mob with 2k mdef on his Wizard
>he can't 255% overkill a 500k health mobs with 2k mdef on his Wizard

Your build sucks.
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>>157361845
>>157361664
Thanks. I presume that I would start from steel heights?
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>rapid fire magic balls that hit for 1.5k
>okay counterspell
>Pole of Agony inside my Counterspell
>counts as a physical attack and almost oneshots me
How the fuck is a normal class supposed to even beat this quest? I only barely got through
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Is the new Psychic element the Sprit one listed in the elements table?
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>>157362000
its the best and most uptodate

>tosbase
is literally lèddit

toscamp has no mapnames,etc
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>>157361732
>>157361857
Outside the Succubus and Centaur boss fights, and District 8, I didn't need a party. Granted, I am saving the more annoying places for last.
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Hypothetically if the game is still around by then, by rank10, does that mean mages will be shit around by people running with 10 level10 nuaele's?
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>>157362374

Isn't nuaele only 10 magdef per card?
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>>157362226
Speaking only of the map, toscamp not only has map names but shows the stars, if they have goddess statues and gives an actual image of the map. Tos.neet at least leasts you search for specific objects, but that's the only thing it has going for it. Toscamp is as updated as the kr server is. It's a way more generally useful map.

Also neither tosbase nor toscamp breaks as much on my browsers as tos.neet does. the owner needs to learn to make a site.
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>>157361528
>Spectate
>No matches in progress

Christ.
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>>157362564
There are 2 matches right now on Klai.
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>>157362481
hehehehe
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>>157362549
>toscamp not only has map names but shows the stars, if they have goddess statues and gives an actual image of the map.
neets had that too

also has all monster and quest details and stats, for each map

it never bugs my 2 browsers

kr-neets is also direct updated from kr servers/client
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>>157362725
>>157362860

>neets had that too
Not right on the full map.

>also has all monster and quest details and stats
So does toscamp.
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>>157361131
Conviction debuffs the mob and then chaplain skills do a huge dmg.
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>>157362549
http://toscamp.com/map/mapviewer.php?map=f_whitetrees_56_1&lang=en

https://tos.neet.tv/zones/3300
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/3300
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>>157362481
>He doesn't know
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What the heck.
I'm completing TBL matches tonight, and the daily-points-meter fills up, but it's not properly adding to my total points. I got 50/50 for my daily, but I actually only got 30 points to show for it.
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Wonders of playing at insanely late at night!
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>>157362961
That site
A: still doesn't let me select points on firefox
B: looks like it was made for the mobile phone generation, which is probably why it doesn't work.
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>>157363181
cute boy, what server are you playing in
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>>157362986

Tell me senpai
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>>157363287
Works fine in lastest FF.

Stop using bullshit tinfoil extensions and blocking javascript.
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what's the state of the game? Played a lot during the betas, played for a few days on steam launch. Specifically, how is experience and questing?
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>>157363134
All my matches are ending like this, with everyone but me disconnecting.
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>>157363287
Work fine with FF 47.0.1 here

>B: looks like it was made for the mobile phone generation
it just does not have fancy useless colorful shit everywhere

simple and practical
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>>157363391
Same as normal. Fast to level until rank 5, then you get to suffer through that shit, then you get to r7 generally a few days after. Still primarily a questing experience, but a new mob type introduced recently that summons more mobs when killed makes grinding more appealing than it was and there's currently an xp event involving crafting dumplings.

Also there is another massive difficulty spike at r8 that people are dealing with right now.
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>>157362207
Anyone?
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>>157363362
go equip one.

>>157363382
>lastest FF.
Yeah, all the others will work fine even in my outdated sandboxed ones. Program better.
Also it is "latest" not "lastest"

>>157363535
No, it's linear scrolling instead of using available screen space properly and has giant blank white areas that hurt my eyes. It's obviously meant to be used on a shitphone.
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WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
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>>157363715
it also worked with FF 3 or 6 month ago for me

> that hurt my eyes
uhh to bad for you babbyboy
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>>157363289
you sound pretty gay anon
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>>157363412
>Puts on helmet
>"lol why's everyone keep crashing? Oh well, I win!"
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>tfw blue exp brown rambear gives almost 2 levels
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Any guilds on klai recruiting qt dead weights?
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>>157363864
maybe because i fucking am
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Cattly put up his cute shop again
Nighty night
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>>157364050
Whisper Lolipan.
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>>157364050
how much weight
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>>157364053
calm down fag
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>>157363691
Send help for a fellow shitdu.
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>>157364065
>Logging in "just for the shop I swear"

He'll be back. Nobody escapes Kim's wild ride.
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>>157364065
>>157364220
He literally deleted every other character exactly so he couldn't.
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>>157364176
im calm, you want a kiss?
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>>157364050
cute was made for deadweights
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Hey /tosg/, please help me with a price check:
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/643731/
How much is this worth? It gives Aukuras skill lvl +1.
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>Zima Suecourt
>500k mob on entrance
>kill it
>it explodes on death, like the 190 dungeon ghosts

I NOPE'd out of that 4 star map really fast after that.
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>>157364672
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So are these monster spells a new thing in this R8 patch or old? These fuckers didn't cast this shit at all in the past.

Also Royal Mausoleum 3F was painful. Vikaras Mages now fucking spam Magnetic Pull shit over and over and one quest can instantly get you fucking killed.

So these skills that are getting you guys killed aren't just in the new zones. It's all zones. I think. I don't fucking know really.
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what are the answers to the medzio diena questions?
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>>157364110
like below level 100 weight
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>>157364795
Some of the lvl 240 quest bosses have 1.2 mil HP now and hit me for 15k damage as a lvl 270 char with some gear
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>>157364795
>spam Magnetic Pull
I don't even have a picture angry enough for that. Those red socket mages in solitary would keep doing that.

It's going to be a fun ride rerolling. I wonder what mage tower is like.
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>>157364917
>Prepared to fight something that big
>Retrograde circle
>Destroy plants
>Defend against medzio diena

Something to that nature, gist of it was that the magic+walls were used as an attempt to fend off the plant apocalypse.
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What's with Lolipan's sudden fascination with the term "cuck'? Is she trying to compensate for something?
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>>157364975
sounds like a bug. had the same with a 223 quest boss.
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>>157365106
>she
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>>157365051
the lore for this part would be so interesting if I wasnt trying not to die while reading papers
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>>157359295
LeCreme sounds like a yandere
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>>157365106
Getting back for the last 8 months of being called a swordcuck.
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>Smoke Grenade doesn't affect bosses
Kim

DUDE
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>>157365181
>ywn softly whisper hi into lecremes ear and make her lecreme herself
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>>157365181
He sounds like a desperate whore more than anything
I would never call it yandere when it's asking for attention from ANYONE
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What are the level ranges of the popular 200+ grinding spots now after the patch?
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>>157365561
People grind the 285 map up to 300. Once 300, you can eat up the Lv13 exploration cards and eb 317 instantly.
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>>157365561
Alemeth
Extension (underrated)
Storage
Maven

Don't do Evac anymore
its no point and the class exp blows
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>>157365561
like

200-240 truffels
240-27x storage
26x-29x maven

20 lvl difference for full exp. still 50% at +-30 lvl
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>>157365647
>>157365694
>>157365760
Thanks
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So, what have all the elememes chosen for rank 8? Sage seems interesting to me but I'm not sure if works well.
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>>157365885
>elememes ... Sage
nothing except missilehole

elem3,WL1 take WL2 cuz other options suck
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>>157365885
Sage would be the best option but everyone is taking Warlock2 because muh DPS
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>>157365760
What range would Evac be if it was in that list?

I'm asking because sometimes you take what you can get, and I like the idea of zones overlapping.
>>
The new "Psych" element is strong vs what?
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>>157353696
Fuck yeah! My Sword3/Pelt1 character that I couldn't decide what to do with (I was thinking I'd reroll) is actually good for something!
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>>157366176
>Evac
dont

half of the mobs there give really low class exp
if you miss some lvls between alemeth and storage, eat cards
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>>157364672
The Pyrans are flying caster mobs that hit for 7-8k per hit.
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>>157365502
>ANYONE
True, guess that really isn't yandere, rather desperate for attention in general
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>>157353696
Yes, reroll out of damage dealing trees for a few more seconds. Perfect idea.
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>>157365991
Doesn't WL2 suck too?
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>>157300418
>Laima explains that Demons are beings who just wanted to be loved by god
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>>157366484
kinda. but others suck more.

more lvls in DT are not bad
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>>157366243
Vs itself. +50% to itself, +25% to holy and dark, no weaknesses.
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>get to R8
>class is actually pretty underwhelming
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>>157366608
So this is outdated table or am i reading it wrong?
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>>157366645
>get to r8
>its actually good
>want to reroll though to make my build perfect
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>>157366791
Soul is the new type, its renamed to Psychic or something
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>>157367141
I get it, but for me the table is saying that soul do -25% vs Holy/Dark and -50% vs Soul
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>most cataphract skills have a casting time
>higher levels means that the casting time will also increase
who thought this was a good idea
its a fucking swordsman for fucks sake
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>>157367201
i think the person who said it was wrong, i remember it was supposed to be actually really shitty
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>>157367201
>>157366791

see
>>157341952
>>157331065
>
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Where did that Lord Stormakov guy go
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>>157367725
Thanks, i know that Sadhu still shit but it's something.
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wait so possession isnt holy anymore? thats practically a nerf
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Can someone explain to me what "Uphill Defense Mission" is? I've never heard of this as a returning player.
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>>157368008
Tower defense daily mission

scales to lvl and playernumber

some nice rewards at high waves
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>>157367839
He ws the first Lv280 and quit immediately after. He doesn't care for the game, he's a twitch achievement hunter.
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>>157368121
What kind of rewards? Should I do it as soon as I hit 120? If I can get a party that is... where is the NPC at?
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Is this build shit? am I missing anything important? am I grabbing something useless? idk what I'm doing

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/65ouiakjcu/
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>Dungeon run
>One member is afk the entire fucking time
>Another is a monk who never puts heals out because monks
>Another is some supportcuck wizard build who literally decided to use physical link while facing the first boss
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I really like the music and maps up in this region.
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>>157368315
hahaha like we'd tell you, lurk moar faggot

kys
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>>157368315
Reminder to ignore >>157368652
It does this to everyone
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>>157368652
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>>157368497
Put crosscut to 1 and put the points in something else, like Crown.
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Who's ready for CLASS RESET POTIONS HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>157369638
>class reset pots

Keep dreaming, shitbuilder.
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>>157369186
I'm guessing leaving Skull Swing at 1 is a good idea too? So I'd just dump everything else in crown.

How's the Doppel skill picks? They okay?
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When do I start getting the new quests?
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>>157369638
I want to remove necro3 and be sage instead

Fuck Necro3
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>>157369638
But no! Think of all the poor support build who suffered to get to 210 alone!! Everyone has to suffer like them!


Made a supp too. easy to 21x and then grind. easy shit
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>>157369638
>Forumfags will continue to live in their own little world where if IMC didn't nerf/revise/completely destroy the point of choosing a circle in a certain class for them, it didn't happen to anyone else, ever
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Is Calvary charge and leg shot worth putting points into for Hakkas?
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>>157369638
i'd pay like 700 TP for a class reset
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>>157369638
>>157369876
Get fucked, Patsch.

>>157369908
Supports need to go all fuck themselves, specially the 0 cost ones liek Cryo3Chrono3.
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>>157370009
But Anon, all these poor supports have such a hard life, killing questmobs a little slower and never dying.
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Scuttum Hit has a ridiculously long hitbox. I can hit targets from THIS far. It's literally the size and range of a Dragontooth.
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>>157369186
>>157368497

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.23354255.11243f4351657a8191.4595b5.1f415f66718191a5
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>>157369987
>>157369638
I'm ready for an exploit to let me make the builds I want to make, like PK3 Chrono3 Sage and Linker Ele 3 Sorc 3
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Didn't know you could get these from mission cubes. Neat
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>tfw starting to realize Loli was right about literally everything
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>>157371151
Nobody likes you, Lolipantsu.
Fuck off, Lolipantsu.
Nobody cares. Go be a retard elsewhere, Lolipantsu. Fuck off.
Fuck off Lolipantsu.

That LoliPantsu guy salty as ■■■■ because he can't autowin PvP with hax gear instead is forced to actually use skill and strategy lmfao.
Stay ■■■■ kid.
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>>157371151
>t.Lolipan
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>>157371151
t. Swaaz
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Just been reading the changes since I left and noticed this.
>[Krivis]
>- Zalciai
>- Fixed error where this skill could cause enemies resistance to go to negative values.
Does this refer to the crit resist decrease? Is Zalciai shit now?
Sasuga IMC.
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What are some pantsuvations that came true
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if a card is ~200k in market, how much would a L5, L8 , L10 be?
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>>157371518
yeah kinda, it means now you actually have to have decent base crit to do anything
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>>157370336
>Being friends with Evergarden

kys yourself
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>>157371692
No matter what they are, FF will be objectively better with linker than Thaum 3.
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>>157371151
>>157371692
>Rodeleros look great, I bet they'll be pretty strong in the future
>Hunter is amazing, every PvP archer should get at least 1 circle in it
>ThaumFeatherfoot is going to be great, I can feel it
>ET is a waste of time and silver, save for attributes. You have to de-equip equipment to put better equipment, but attributes are forever.
>Gears at 280+ is going to be leagues above Lolopanther and easier to acquire too(still pending)

To name a few.
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>>157371151
>says lots of different shit (often times even conflicting)
>some of the shit sticks
>"I was always right."
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>>157372149
Evergarden Knocks my socks off!
ever is kind, sweet and cute!!!
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>>157372276
>save for attributes. You have to de-equip equipment to put better equipment, but attributes are forever.
>Gears at 280+ is going to be leagues above Lolopanther and easier to acquire too
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Move on
>>157372631
>>157372631
>>157372631
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>>157372276
There are many PvP archer builds that are better off without Hunter.

ET gear is still worth getting for some classes although Virtov is most likely better.

Thaum Featherfoot is only good if you have Linker in your build which he doesn't

Rode's are now pretty good though, just not for PvP.

So far the new gear is fucking cancer to make and I'm still considering blowing all my Blessed Gems enhancing my R7 weapon.
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>>157354117
see>>157322193
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>>157372360
Wow, I like your post! I could have written this!!
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>>157372823
>Thaum Featherfoot is only good if you have Linker in your build which he doesn't
Who the fuck builds a Thaumfoot without Linker?
What was he thinking?
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