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moided >>157232863

>DLC Trailers/Gameplay/Details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic4EHyRm_Tw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nRve2XRUiA
http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/21/12999624/dark-souls-3-ashes-of-ariandel-dlc-preview-hands-on-everything-we-know

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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BBPC
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HOST an FC please
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>>157262610

How will we access the DLC? Any word on that yet?
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Who want to co op dancer? Ps4
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>>157262690

BBPCFCBF
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>>157262610
Something something
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>>157262695
Kay
/dsg/ FC at Highwall!
Pass is dsg
You know what is and isnt seen as okay
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>>157262871
Do you need help? What sl are you
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Overall, how are axes?
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>>157262974
Nobody wants an FC?
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If I want to do a twink pyromancer, what's the best boss route and earliest I can use the most powerful pyros to one shot scrubs?
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Still playing Dark Souls 3?

>shortest game in the series
>bonfires out the ass
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>On-disc cut content that will be sold as DLC
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>No optimization
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>rehashed animations
>teleporting dogs
>invading sucks
>Heavy armors sucks
>armor sets don't fit properly
>brown and grey
>shit AI
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>Magic itself does reduced damage for PvP
>awful scaling balance
>FP is the most awful casting management system introduced yet (worse than DeS mana, which had better regen options and more efficient)
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one locked behind the final boss
>bland NG+
>awful covenants
>no blue eye orb
>blue sentinels and darkmoons the exact same
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for special weapons resulting in less weapon variety than BB
>very little moveset variation
>existence of Carthus Rouge
>WA are mostly shit or copypasted powerstance moves
>no tech
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frame
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>no dragon covenant
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB
>the DLC will be trash
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>>157263237
Sorry, I need to finish masturbating first.

Gimme another couple of minutes.
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>>157263237
I'm coming, it takes a while for people to notice
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>>157262934
Whoever asked about ways to invade a specific player :

Streamsniping is pure luck unless it's a ded game and you have to have a black crystal to get out of the world of hosts you didn't want to invade.

Pick areas that aren't meme pvp hotspots to invade in and if it's a game with active pvp kill the bosses from your world beforehand so you don't waste time getting invaded yourself.
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>Invade "Temple Guard Bob" in Irithyll
>Beat him in "honorabaru duel"
>Later in the Profaned Capital
>Two Dark spirits after my ass
>One chug left
>Blue Sentinel "Temple Guard Bob" has been summoned through concord.
>Solos one and plunge kills another with a slither of health

Fucking based.

Also rate my build. Usually its an executioner's GS with tearstone, life ring and a saint's talisman for dark blade.
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>>157263504

I like your fashion.
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>>157263237
I want it but I ain't getting summoned
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>>157263640
same
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>>157263614
Seconded.
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>tfw half my characters use the same exact helmet
I hate the goddamn exposed necks in this game holy fuck. Practically nothing covers it.
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>>157263504
Why do I keep seeing 19 stamina on low to mid sl characters?

Maybe you will change you evil invader ways now that you have been reduced by a brave blue sentinel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHNg95vxF34
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>>157262974
>>157263237
>>157263640
>>157263778
rip
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Playing through DS2 I've noticed that a lot of areas that look really bland and ugly when you go through them without a torch look neat and really atmospheric when you do use a torch. Makes me sad they decided to not do the DOOM 3 mode.
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>>157263147
Yeah i cannot do anything 2nd phase, 55
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>>157263237
be there soon anon
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>>157264019
Are you a wizard or like a knight? And pass?
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>>157263237
you have dancer alive right?
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>>157264019
I'll put a sign in front of the gate since this FC doesn't seem to be happening yet
just use dsg
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>>157263237
Don't tell me you're on PS4 or something
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Bloodborne had even longer necks, but it hid them well because every torso piece nicely snugged the neck
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>>157264127
Ya I summoned a guy
Im not seeing any signs, not sure whats going on
The pass is dsg, everyone got that part right?
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The more I play these games the more I find that the game becomes much more enjoyable when you stick to one or two weapon types since it gives more incentive to truly learn how to use a weapon class effectively.
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>>157263237
My sign is down and I see a few others.
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>>157264218
Did you pop a finger?
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>>157264218
Dried finger?
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>>157263989
That's why a lot of areas have neat things happen when you light all the sconces
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>>157264248
That's why I've always just used the longsword since ds1
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>>157264324
>three
>a lot
You are the worst namefag on the planet
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>>157264093
Well not really a knight i'd say but not a wizard though and pass is dsg
>>157264129
cool
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>>157263340
>If I find no joy in life, no one else should either.
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>>157264319
>>157264320
Shit
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Now its just saying Im unable to summon you guys
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>>157264464
you around yet
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>>157264464
Tag is down for a while now
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>>157264640

Banned?
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>>157264759
i ain't seeing your signs, do you have cross region on?
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>>157262934
>BB
>PC
We wish
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>>157264798
Wait, if Dancer does happen to be dead, does that stop me from summoning 6? Or summoning anyone at all, I cant remember.
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>>157264851
2 max
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>>157264851
If dancer is dead, you're capped at 2 reds

Look, just forget it. I'll take over hosting for now
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>>157264920
Shit, sorry
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Invading the Cathedral is the only reason I still play this shit game.
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>>157264759
>>157264763
shit i just had one of you and then said unable to summon..
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>>157265040

Invading at Catacombs can be pretty dope too, bud.
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I'm using a PS3 controller while playing on PC, but I'm used to using X as rolling/running from the JP mapping, not O.

How can I swap their functions?
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>>157264821
yeah, I'm right here
I got summoned by someone from the thread earlier that was SL35 or something
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wew
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>>157264423
What does me being a namefag mean? Am I a homo for having a name?
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>>157264324
I wanted more areas like The Gutter where it would be actually dark enough that you'd be mildly scared of going outside of the range of the sconces without a torch or cast light.

Or with DS3, since Frostbite is an element, maybe have it so that if you're carrying a torch or near a brazier, you gain some frost resistance but otherwise normally your resistance to frostbite decreases a lot in cold areas.
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>>157265053
I got summoned as a blue
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I haven't played this game in three weeks

I think I'll stick to trying to dark hand you guys
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>>157265107

I think you can with Input Mapper.
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>>157264798
>that webm
jej
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>>157265053
Switching characters
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FC going on still?
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>>157265587
ahh nah don't worry about it, kinda don't have those embers anymore so i'll just bullshit her 2nd phase somehow
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>>157263217
Decent damage slightly slower than straight swords, so pretty good
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>>157265713
Yes

HIGH WALL
Pass is dsg
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Why is MLGS in ds3 so bad?

i do the charged r2 directly in front of people who are literally standing still or walking in a straight line towards me, but the beam manages to hit the ground anyways

Am I supposed to free aim it instead of locking on?
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Does anyone want to gesture ERP with a chubby champion of ash gal?
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>>157265853

Yes, the locked-on laser beams of the MLGS and Greatsword of Judgement are angled downward for some reason so they will almost always hit the ground. Free-aiming them is the only way to work.
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Question: If I summoned Great Swamp Cuculus to help with the Old Demon King fight and she dies, can I still summon her when I try the fight again? Or is she dead forever?
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>>157265731
Was just going to kill her with Carthus Rouge but ok. Gl
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>>157265927
>chubby
gross
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Best place to get summoned as a blue spirit? I'm standing in the catacombs, SL40 with a +4. Zero summons so far. Odd because I get instant invasions as a dark spirit.

Where is a good place?
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>>157265851

Signs on the rafters? I'm not getting a summon yet.
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>>157265960
With summoned NPCs you can always retry.
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>>157265960
Oh fuck, sorry, ignore that. I'm an idiot. I thought I was embered but I wasn't and her sign wasn't showing up.
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>>157265853
Yes
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>>157265960
No her sign will respawn, this is the case for all npc signs.
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>>157266159

That's pathetic.
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who killed nito
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>>157265853
yeah, you need to free aim it a bit upwards
even if it didn't went downwards, it's super slow and low range, anyone with half a brain will dodge but it's a bretti gud weapon imo, and incredibly fun
the L2 hits for a ton of damage and has good tracking, it's great to fuck people who roll into you, or counter hitting non-ha weapons
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>>157266001
Either Irithyll at 120/100 or Crucifixion and surrounding areas at 25 +3
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>>157266275
Correct
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>>157266001
20 +2
80 +10

Maybe 60 + 6 or so
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>>157263504
This is what a build should be. Fuck the meta, fuck minmax at the cost of fashion souls.
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Ricard's Rapier or regular Rapier, which is better?

They have almost exactly the same AR at 40 Dex, but

>Ricard's is slightly longer (??? not sure)
>regular Rapier has 130 critical compared to Ricard's 100 (big deal)
>Ricard's has a slightly less shitty WA (but still shitty)
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The kiss one-shotted him
You absolute madman!
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So, have the Saint Bident and/or Lothric's Holy Sword been buffed yet?
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>>157266697
No
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>>157266670
That's what he gets for having less than 1200 health.
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>>157266697
>buffing bident
god no
nonono
with 27STR/60FAI build and heavy bident buffed by DMB i'm hitting for greatsword numbers from meters away, this shit is obviously for buff builds and it destroys everything on it
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>>157266883
What makes the Saint's bident so good buffed?
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>>157267037
It already scales with faith, which you need for buffs.
Typically if you pump 60fth for a buff, those levels come at the expense of str or dex. Most spears are hardcore quality weapons so losing one or the other seriously impacts their AR.

Bident isn't likewise penalized since its physical scaling already sucks and it has a bit of faith scaling, so it ends up better at buff-build stats than most quality spears.
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>>157266768
>kissing for over 1K

>>157267037
Combination of stupid long range and natural physical faith scaling which literally just makes buffs stronger. It has D faith scaling because if it had any more it'd be super broke.
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>>157267037
it doesn't lose the faith scaling when infused with Heavy so you can reach ~340 AR prior to the buff so after it's buffed it becomes one of the longest spears with like 580 AR and no downsides of both garg spear (easily resisted fire damage) and lothric knight spear (shit 1h moveset) while being longer than plow
if that thing is buffed further it will become ridiculous
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>>157267435
>>157267462
>>157267478
Holy shit... So you, with Lightning Blade, you could theoretically pump someone for near 600 AR's worth of evenly split damage?

Fuck me... This might be the answer to my faith build prayers.
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Why can't I give Karla all these sorcerer scrolls yet I can give her divine tomes?
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>>157267682
I just want lightning spears to be on the level they were on in ds1
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>>157267682
use dmb as magic damage is one of the least resisted in the game
overall yes, it's powerful as fuck as long as you're going for SL120+ build
as added bonus you will be able to use wolnir's sword on full power with AR close to quality hollowslayer
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>>157267742
She's a dumb slut that can't into sorcery.
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>>157267782
Hey remember how these super power miracles used first-hand by the gods to bring down the eternal dragons? Ya they do maybe 100 damage now until you reach 60 Faith.
Lightning Spears should perform as well as Great Soul Arrow at point blank, GLS should be a Soul Spear at melee, and SLS is already a Crystal Soul Spear at melee.
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>put a red sign down at pontiff
>find the host at the arena
>shoot dragon slayer arrows at him from the steps
>dodges all of them with backsteps
>waves
>claps
>throws firebombs
>claps some more
>just keep shooting my arrows
>eventually they run out of patience
>rushes up the steps with a running attack
>use force to knock them off the edge
This is all I've done for 3 days.
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>>157267462
At these stats, kiss>sacred flame.
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>>157267782
lighting spears were nearly unusable in ds1, especially in pvp
ironically, ds3 is the only game in series where you actually have a chance of landing a spear in pvp
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while this FC is going on does anyone have an extra untrue dark ring
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>People used to say the saint bident was shit
>People laughed at me when I started using it
>People now consider it good
>MFW I got the last laugh
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>>157268001
So why can't we have good damaging spears and have the chance they might hit in pvp? Without having to pump 60 into faith
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>>157266883
Yorksha spear is better
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>>157267682
Most players have naturally high lightning defense since it scales with Endurance, so shave off about 20-30 damage for that. That's why most people use DMB, since magic defense scales with INT and most people don't have any of that.

After taking defenses into account (and I'm just guessing off the top of my head here), the final damage should be something like 300-350 per poke. Unless I'm overestimating it.

>>157267742
You can only give her dark divine tomes, specifically the ones that would fuck Irina up for being too dark. And even then, she doesn't take them willingly.

You can't give her sorcery scrolls because she isn't a sorcerer. She's a witch, she only does dark magic and pyros. >>157267860 is probably kind of right, dark magic softcaps at 40-45int so she wouldn't have the stats for most of those spells.
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Anyone in the FC have a paleshade robe they could give to me mozgus?
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>>157268130
There is no universe where Yorshka's Spear is better than any other spear at anything.

>>157268116
You never played DaS1 with the Demon Spear flipring dragon builds, did you.
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>CE in a bunch of +10 stuff to bring to the FC
>Shit at using all of them
Im gonna win a fight though
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>>157266575

Please respond.

I'm leaning towards the regular Rapier.
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>>157268291
I never played ds1 pvp extensively, but I do remember getting raped by demons spear
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>>157268018
Who are you
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>>157268339
Regular Rapier parries and pokes in the left hand, so you can use both.
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>>157266575
>>157268339
Ricard's better for buffing. The WA hits like a truck with DMB and whatnot.
I think it's also boosted by the Potiff Eye rings and OWCGS.
Never really played with the normal Rapier other than early game, but I like Ricard's a lot.
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>>157268291
Yorshka's spear + greatshield with time to use the weapon art is primetime mage bully though
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>'pyros' that only Fire Surge spam in the FC

Boy this sure is fun to fight.
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>>157268567
You don't even need tactics to bully mages, though. Just dodge their fire snake and there's nothing they can do.
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Can the Spell Parry WA on the bloom shield block pyromancies/miracles too?
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>>157262962
It's not gay if I sometimes think about cumming deep inside that tight boipuss, and hearing him moan in pure ecstasy while I jerk off, right?
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>>157268372
Claire
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>>157268741
Full homo.
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So I'm using the golden wing crest shield, and I've learned the parry timing for sorceries (parry as soon as they cast the spell, or as soon as the homing soulmass starts moving, obviously just dodge stream) but has anyone tested it out with pyromancies and miracles?
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Wait
What the fuck is Standard damage?
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>>157268604
Who are you talking about??
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>>157268719
Spell parry deflects projectile spells of any kind, not just sorcery. If it isn't a projectile, like Profaned Flame, it can't deflect it.

Spell parry is also useless since it's always better to just dodge the spell.
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>>157268741
it's only gay if you kiss afterwards
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Thanks host!
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>>157268816
Parry as soon as they finish casting, not when they start. You also can't ricochet then back at the caster, they just get moved around you. It even works for gnaw.
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>>157268604
Just run through the fire surge and hit her in the face
Thats what I did
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>>157268846
Wedged blunt damage with a very slightly sharpened edge, of the kind dealt by standard medieval-era swords.
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>>157268604
>dying to fire surge
you were going to die anyway anon
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>>157268846
Non-specified physical damage, usually found on straight swords, axes, and other edged weapons that aren't katanas or curved swords.
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>>157268970
>>157268989
I only just now noticed that most of my weapons do Standard damage
Would swords not do Slash? Swords slash, dont they? I dont get it. Whyd they add in another damage type?
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>>157266883
A quality plow with pale pine is superior in every way. Stop excusing bident
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>>157268962

That's hard to do when you're both at low health and she backpedals everytime I try and close the distance to cast it, at that point all you can hope for is a double kill.
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Lets switch to FFA
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>>157269120
Logically speaking yes, and that's how it worked in Bloodborne. But that isn't how it works in Dark Souls, for whatever reason. I guess From just wanted to distinguish western swords from eastern swords but forgot that they work on the same principle.
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>>157269170
this has nearly 100 AR less and less range
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>>157269285
Plow is one of the biggest spears
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>>157269278
Thats another thing that confused me. Besdies the Warden Twinblades, pretty much every katana has Bleed, even though Bleed specifically says its made by sharp cuts. But... every sword cuts, they cut rather well actually. Why the fuck is nippon steel the only thing that applies bleeds? And why would a club or something be able to apply Bleed, by their definition?
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>>157269254
Yes
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>>157268482
>>157268548

Hmmm.......
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>>157269254
This is a good idea

We're switching the FC to FFAs

Falling Bolt will be the signal to begin, finish your current fights and then set up and wait for the mark.
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>>157269369
yet bident is even longer
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>>157269447
Have you never played other souls before? Kats having bleed because sharp but frail blades is their thing
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>>157269447
The clubs and maces that cause bleed all have spikes or nails sticking out of them. Every hit you take spills blood, but I guess blood loss only refers to a specific amount of blood lost. For instance, when you have leeches on you sucking out blood and filling up your meter, you don't lose the health until you hit that critical point. Or, it refers to a specific type of injury like the rending flesh caused by a thorny blade.

But that's just me making up plausible-sounding shit. I dunno, it does because game balance.
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>>157269608
>frail blades
>In Unbreakables 3: The worst of both worlds
Lol
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>>157269818
They do break faster than other weapons. At least try to get my point.

If acid surge was good it'd be a legit concern
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>tfw bursting fireball hits 3 people at once
also thanks for the ring depression
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>>157269990
Acid Surge does 7 durability damage. Not over time, but all at once the instant the other player touches the cloud. You can spam it to break washing pole in a few casts, but that's the only weapon it's good against.
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Anyone on PS4 need help with anything?
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>>157270368
Not necessarily, unless you just want to help me farm NG playthroughs for slabs and seigbraus before the DLC.
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>>157270224
Honestly Vestiges or Chaos fire orb is better for multi target clusterfucks like that

Chaos fire orb especially because if they eat the fireball they also eat the lava
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>>157270343
It's too slow, the WP player can just evade
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>>157268053
>>People now consider it good
Who the fuck does that
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>>157270509
I remember in DaS1 I'd throw Chaos Fireball and roll into the lava to protect me while casting Chaos Firestorm. Is that still possible, or does the pool fade too fast?

>>157270556
Not if you stand in it and leapfrog surges. You don't hit them with the cloud, you use it as a defensive fuck you screen.
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>>157270556
cover warmth with it while spite kiting in a middle of it with bloodring
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ggs FC people
glad I won my first FFA and also landed a sacred flame
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A +3 boss weapon is equivalent to what, +6, +7 regular?
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>>157270668
Fades too fast now, it only lasts for like a second

Might work if you nail them point blank and immediately start casting firestorm while they're staggered by the lava, depending on your cast speed
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>>157270974

A +5 Boss weapon is equal to a +13 normal weapon, so you do the math.
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Final round of FFAs, then I'm gonna call it.
Winner gets to kill me.
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>>157270974
Twinklies and scales are equal to twice their value, so +3 would be +6.

>>157270985
Well, that's no fun.

>>157271110
What drugs are you on?
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>>157270368
Help me with the bitch dancer
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>>157262610
Saw the tiny player mod in /v/'s webm thread. Anyone have a link to it?
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>>157270605
Prod made a video on it and went on decent kill streak with it. It's super easy to chain r1s for stunlocking.
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>>157271306
yeah here

www.gobacktherefaggot.nexus.mods.fuckyou
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If I CE covenant items in SotFS will I be banned?
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>>157271147
Well the invader ruined that.

Anywho, FC is over, thanks for comin'.
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>freeze frame
>record scratch
Yeah, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation. Well, it's a long story...
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>>157271306
Zullie's still working out the kinks.
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>>157271473
I'll keep it going i guess.
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>>157271306
It's a work in progress, no release yet.
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>>157271530
>>157271629
Oh well. Hope he gets it worked out because it looks like a blast
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>>157271675
Makes me want a PC desu
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So there's some faggit loser bitch in the SL 20 range running full havels + BK GS + dark sword while normal rolling.

Is this fucking retard cheating? guy definitely has 1k+ health, takes pretty much zero dmg (30-60 dmg from a 2h machete) while still almost 1 shotting me with his BK GS (I have 1k health).

I can deal with most twink cancer, dark hand is popular but beatable, fags just baiting 1 shot hornet kills in this range and even CSS/SS ganks but whatever this fucking loser is running straight up allows him to walk forward and spam R1 to win.

Feels like one of those 99 all stats fags that hang out around pontiff.


I'm just confused on how he literally takes zero dmg while maintaining enough vigor/endurance/str/vit to run this shit at level fucking 20.
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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BEAT MANUS

THIS FUCKER IS PREVENTING ME FROM FINISHING THE GAME

HE'S LITERALLY FASTER THAN THE CLERIC BEAST. WHY IS A BLOODBORNE BOSS IN A DARK SOULS GAME

I AM SO MAD RIGHT NOW. ALL THE OTHER BOSSES HAVE MELTED AT THE TIP OF MY CLAYMORE BUT THIS ONE JUST STUNLOCKS ME TO DEATH AND THEN STANDS STUPIDLY OVER MY DYING CORPSE

PLEASE GIVE ME STRATS DSG
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>>157271473
Thanks for hosting, enjoy the rest of your night
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>>157271893

If he has that much AR with that weight load and health he's definitely a 99 stat babby.
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>>157271893
Definitely cheating

Piratefag edition allows them to cheat with impunity because bans mean nothing to them, they can just keep doing it over and over
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>>157272076
>Piratefag edition
What?
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>>157271893
apply status effect 33 to your weapon and hit him
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>>157271521

Let's start all the way back in the golden age of fire
*badly tuned guitar*
FEER NO SHEHM BOUT SHEP
WHEATHA CHANGE THEIRL PHLASE
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>>157271935
An optional boss is not preventing you from finishing the game. It's preventing you from doing an optional sidequest.

Poke around Oolacile and find the Silver Pendant. It should be near a developer message saying "let there be light". Using the Silver Pendant will briefly deflect dark magic, making him much easier.

There's no one strat that'll beat Manus though, fucker will change his own strategy to beat yours. He's one of those bosses you just have to git gud for.
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>>157272124
If you were playing 3 then piratefags can play online
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>>157271935
Silver talisman you dumb fuck
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>>157271935
Use the arrow cheese trick.
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>>157272076
>>157272010

really tempted to hop on my family share account and co-op run people through undead settlement while teleport i-frame immune r1 spamming this faggit to death every time he invades someone.
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>>157272295
Doesn't steam catch pirated copies?
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>>157272252
>>157272298
Thanks, anons. I picked it up but didn't bother to try it out yet

>>157272348
Cheesing bosses isn't very satisfying
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>>157271935
>bloodborne player having trouble with manus
>manus is basically a superbeast with kin spells

Huh, never though about it that way.
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>>157271935
>MANUS
>BLOODBORNE BOSS IN A DARK SOULS GAME
Is this b8
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>>157272240
I'd play a Souls in the Age of Fire. Imagine being a trap god's bitch knight
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>>157272393
Not in this case I guess
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>>157271565
Is the FC still going?
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>>157272849
yesir, also i'm thinking of switching to FFA soon since there's many signs
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>>157271935
Are you the guy that yelled about DaS2 for awhile? First Raime, then the priestess lady I killed on the first try, then Sinh, then lmao 2cat, then Ivory King?
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Are gilded vicars still a thing or did everyone stop caring?
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>>157273208
I've never even played das2 before
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>PCucks will NEVER EVER experience this boss
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>>157273262
We stopped.
The Bloodshade activity on PC didn't last, and when their activity dropped, we started getting too many random invaders and too few bloodshade invaders, so we called it quits.
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>>157273095
where at??????????????????????????
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>>157273262
Successfully broke bloodshades for a while, then reddit got on the bandwagon and ruined everything. Now no one cares anymore.
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Is there like a video of every enemy/boss that gets a special visceral in 3 ?
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>>157273864
>>157273876
Guess I'll delete my Vicar and make a Crusader instead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>157273872
HW
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>>157273661
I have because I'm not a poor fag.
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>>157273262
/dsg/ was retarded and did it on PC where the actual thing didn't exist

Bloodshades are still a thing on PS4 right now, but they've just changed to be forest gankers or aldritch gankers at SL30 and SL50
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>>157273989

Well congratulations, you're not a PCuck then.
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>>157274106
quit starting shit you fucking faggot, jesus christ
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I'm going to go make tea don't end the FC please

dsg is cute.
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>>157274074
We tried to do it on PS4, as well. In fact, we had intended from the beginning for this to be a multiplatform thing and were very vocal about that.

Unfortunately, the PS4 playerbase of /dsg/ chose to farm ears from silverknights instead. Not much we can do if you guys didn't want to play along, that's your choice.
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so what's the item count in the dlc that we KNOW of

>4 spells
>two bosses

how many armor and weapons?
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Beanbaddy, please do something about the dog.
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Depression you slut, getting groped by a hollow.
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>>157274727
He's my qt pet, leave him be
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Host here, got to run to the beer store quick before it closes. I'll leave the game on should be back in 10 minutes if everyone dies.
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>>157275175
>beer store
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>>157262610
Is there somewhere I can see just weapons/armor from the DLC without any other spoilers?
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It took me four tries to beat that ice lizard thing in the tutorial area of DS3. is that normal or should I feel like a faggot? I beat Bloodborne but that's the only one I've played. The feel is a little different.
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>>157275824
What class did you start as
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>>157274502
15 weapons and 4 complete armor sets
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warrior is the best class for 40/40 str/dex, and overall pure physical builds, right?
but what if later on, I'd want to change things up, respec everything and go str/fth, dex/pyro, or whatever else? knight?
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>>157273262
I have mine on ps4
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>>157275907
You can always just use the best class selection on mugenmonkey and punch in what you'd potentially respec to
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>>157275664
I don't think those spoilers are even available yet.


As far as we know, the confirmed DLC weapons are a battle axe, a Javelin spear that can be thrown as its WA, a greatsword (or possible UGS) that buffs itself with dark fire for its WA and a sword + shield paired weapon with a stance WA and a guardbreak shield bash. All of this stuff is confirmed by trailers and we know next to nothing about movesets right now.

CE wizards filediving have also found that the gold and silver tracer from DaS1 are a paired weapon with a unique moveset still in the game files, alongside a paired greataxe moveset and several unused WAs (including an alternate WA for the Farron GS). These all either appeared after a few patches, or have been updated in recent patches, suggesting they may be for DLC material.

In an interview, Miyazaki confirmed 15 weapons in the first DLC and 4 full armour sets. We know next to nothing about most of them.

The sneak peak that the e-celebs are getting apparently hasn't happened yet, so there's no more information.
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>>157275861
Knight
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>>157276253

That's the best starting class.
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>>157276195
Thanks

I consider pictures of enemies/locations spoilers so I meant info on weapons that isn't a promo picture of it being used in a new area on a new enemy.

Your explanation was as good as I could hope for right now.
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>>157276195
So there's a chance we will get Ciaran's armor? because I would love that very much.
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>>157275545
Pretty much buddy

also i'm back let the FC continue!
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>>157275175
>tfw it's been more than 10 minutes
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>>157274475
Anyone here have vicars on xbone? I've got one at 93 with something around 2.5 million souls, waiting to see if the dlc adds anything I could use.
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>>157276384
aw shit nigga
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>>157276358
>Only 4 armor sets

Not even one of those should be reused.
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>>157276413
No need to worry any longer for i have returned!
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Nifty
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>>157276285
Yeah that's what I was told. Or actually it was a couple of guys arguing at some length about whether it was knight or warrior but yeah knight seemed a bit more rounded. I just realized, where do I level up and buy shit? Is there an equivalent of the Hunter's Dream that I'm not seeing? I literally just killed the first boss. He was easier than the lizard and didn't kill me.
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>>157276770
Keep going forward and stop looking at stuff. Play blind first and later check what you missed.
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>>157276498
If one of them is desert sorceress they all could be prisoner rag reskins for all I care.
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>>157276195
>CE wizards filediving have also found that the gold and silver tracer from DaS1 are a paired weapon with a unique moveset still in the game files
>These all either appeared after a few patches, or have been updated in recent patches, suggesting they may be for DLC material.


But this is wrong. Tracers were in the game from the very beginning.

>confirmed 15 weapons in the first DLC and 4 full armour sets

And 2 bosses, apparently. I am praying to god they're not counting reused armor sets or returning characters, like the "15 bosses" meme before release.
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>>157276987
tracers were in the game files from the beginning but had no moveset, since patches they do

fromsoft updates the game to whatever current working build they have when they do patches, so things that they're working on but unseen and testing still get updated
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>>157277019
>those brick feet
wow beanbaddy, you like, mtf or something
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>>157276987
>Tracers were in the game from the very beginning.
Hence this qualifier, anon
>or have been updated in recent patches
The tracers received rolling and running L1s as well as a WA back in the teadrop fix patch, meaning their moveset is still being worked on and updated.

Please be mindful to read carefully in the future so as to not waste both of our times.
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Do you guys always make your weapon raw in ds3, until you can wield it adequately to get good scaling? Or no?
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>>157277176
If that's true, then they must be added a new farrons greatsword to the game or updating it

my thoughts that DLC will actually cooincide with a massive revamp 2.0 patch might be right

Might be what's taken so long for what is apparently a DLC about as long as the first half of Old Hunters. They're actually finishing the base game they left fucked up.
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>>157276770
It's basically impossible to go the wrong way in this game. Just keep playing and poke everything you see, you'll be fine.

>>157276987
>Tracers
The previous patch updated their moveset with a weapon art, so they're basically confirmed at this point.

Source for weapon/spell/armor count
>http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/21/12999624/dark-souls-3-ashes-of-ariandel-dlc-preview-hands-on-everything-we-know

Spells so far are frost blizzard sorcery, light discus boomerang, and one pyro spell we've only seen the startup animation for. One spell remains unaccounted for. Weapons are the throwing javelin, some short sword/gladius looking thing (possibly paired with a shield), a very generic war axe, and this sexy beast (name is speculation). No confirmed armors yet, but if we're counting enemies and what's shown in this picture we've probably seen three so far. Scythe bossfu might drop her armor set, and of course her scythe.

Currently unknown quantities:
>items/consumables
>rings
>npcs
>covenants?
>key items

The torch flamethrower trick appears to be tied to a consumable item.
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>>157277178
Don't knock em till you experience one of my signature footjobs
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>>157277396
>signature ____jobs
Slut
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>>157277380
>consumeable item that alters your weapon art of your equipped weapon temporarily

Odd, but might be neat
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>>157277490
You can't be a good fc host without being one
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>>157277501
The torch doesn't have a weapon art, says so right in the description.
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I really like the whole moonmagic/dex look. Any ideas on a competent build or any weapons that fit the theme in dark souls 3?

Are there many options to fit the darkmoon theme as far as weapons or spells go or is 3 alot more limited than 2 and 1. Just getting into 3.
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>>157277396
I'm down
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>>157277380
>It's basically impossible to go the wrong way in this game
That's actually pretty disappointing tbqhwy family.
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>>157277616
It's immensely disappointing. DaS3 is essentially linear in its world connection.
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>>157269518
How do you know for sure? Pretty sure lothric is bigger
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>>157277573
Sunless Set, Sunless Talisman, Golden Ritual Spear, Darkmoon Bow.

Hope you like suffering.

>>157277616
Yup. There's forks and the occasional side route, but for the most part you just keep moving and kill bosses along the way. Hopefully the two DLCs will be enough to make the world feel thicker, like they did with DaS2.
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>>157277654
I've been told to play the first one, and I plan to, but I need to figure out my controller situation on my PC because I don't have a PS3. My PS4 controller won't work. I've tried three different programs that are supposed to help but none of them worked. I gather that's a frequent issue in Windows 10.
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Should we switch it up to FFA? or are you guys enjoying 1v1 for the time being
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>it's a guy beats everyone at Pontiff in a row because he's so fucking laggy episode
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Without starting an argument on frame-rate, can anyone tell me if DS3 is locked at 60, or can I get at least 120fps?
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>>157274475
I'm down for some vicar if you guys want.

I'm almost done farming. I have 10 ears on my vicar.

5 on my main and another 5 on a low level blue sent and a few more spread across my other characters.

Just need some help transferring all of my concords to my vicar and I'm all finished.
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>>157277654
>tfw I went to the skellies first
>tfw I found the back way into blighttown because I picked master key like a doofus
>tfw I wound up in ash lake on my first playthrough before getting the lordvessel
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>>157277781
Last I checked a couple years ago, most PS3 to PC controller software comes with all-natural chinese malware. Just get any wired XBox 360 controller for $9.99 and plug it directly into your computer. If you're using Windows, you don't even need to install anything.
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>>157278212
>most PS3 to PC controller software comes with all-natural chinese malware

That's called Motioninjoy.
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>>157277890
I'm down for FFA
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>>157278212
Yeah that's what I was thinking, just haven't thought about it while I've been out and about. Thanks man.

Any leveling up advice for my knight here or just whatever like in Bloodborne? Anything I should NOT spend on?
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>>157277890
Me too.
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>>157278469
Vigor, Endurance, Strength, and Dexterity to 40 each. That's about it, really.
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>>157278212

That was only motioninjoy. It also had the added bonus of being shit program even ignoring the malware (for example: couldn't use it offline). Thank god the DS4 option is so much better.

>>157277781

Use DS4Windows. Under settings, click the "Hide PS4 controller" option. Go back to the controllers tab, and click "connect DS4 eclusively". If you don't see the option, expand the window. Sometimes it gets hidden where you can't see for some reason. It'll do one of 2 things: Say Controller 1 is using Profile "default" (or whatever you named it) OR it will say "Warning: blahblahblah". If it says warning, just do it again until it says it's using your profile. That's how I've gotten it to work on Windows 10.
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>>157278469
I'd say find a weapon you like and get the basic requirements for it. Pump health until 20 to 27. Pump stamina until 20 ushio.

Then go from there. By the time you hit that you should have found some stuff you want to use. And don't worry about ur build too much you can always respec later.

After getting some decent health and Stam then focus on ur damage stats.
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OK FFA NOW.
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Who ps4?
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We all know 27 vig is too low but what's the best otherwise? 39 if you can? 35?
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>>157278729
torch ffa sure is exciting
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>aldrich invade a fingered host
>host has a white and a sunbro
>start whittling them down with vestiges and serpent as they chase me up the buttresses
>blueberry summoned through accord right behind them
>lob a GCFO at them, when I meant to launch a vestige
>hits host, she dies
>also hits phantom, he dies to lava tick afterwards
>sunbro gets hit by lava and survives but panic rolls off the buttress to his death
>mfw
I am so wet right now.

>blue even applauds my triple
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>>157278914
40 minimum. 50 with rings for 1951 hp.
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>>157278469

Don't put points into vitality. Armor is trash in this game, especially heavy armor.

Put points into STR or DEX for combat stats. Just pick one or the other until you get to 40. Then start putting points into the one you didn't.

Put points into VIG for health whenever you start getting 2 shot. 27 Vigor total is usually enough for PvE.

Whenever you feel like you're doing enough damage or have enough health, plop a few points into Endurance.
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>>157278949
It was a good death.
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>>157276732
D E E P E S T
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L O R E
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>>157278960
>things that didn't happen

Blues use a summon slot, moron, and post pontiff has -1 summon slot for AF. Host can't have a white, gold, and blue all at once there. Unless one of the whites was a red or purple with a ring, but then his name would be red instead of white.
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>>157278960
>aldrich invade
>blueberry summoned through accord right behind them
You weren't alone on this then?
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Thanks for torch FFA

goodnight everyone
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>>157279102
actually yeah the white did have a red name so he must have been a purple/red

I may have just killed the rare endangered friendly purple
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>>157276981
This is the only exception. There might be a new set thats sexy though.
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>>157271350
wow just like every other spear, except other spears do 80 more damage per r1?
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>>157276981
>>157279402
>desert sorceress
>in snow
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>>157274074
>Bloodshades are still a thing on PS4 right now, but they've just changed to be forest gankers or aldritch gankers at SL30 and SL50

Are they really all just sl30 and sl 50?

Anyone see them a lot at high levels?
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>>157278710
>DS4Windows
I tried this but didn't try all the shit you suggested. I will do so, thanks.
>>157278986
>>157278717
>>157278624
Pretty straightforward physical combat leveling then? More or less what I did in Bloodborne.
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>tfw lost 3m souls

Hold me, /DSG/.
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>>157279519
Unless you want to try out miracles or sorcery.

A good healing spell is pretty good for pve.
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>>157279519
>Pretty straightforward physical combat leveling then? More or less what I did in Bloodborne
Pretty much. If you want an experience that's completely different from Bloodborne, go with 40 vigor, 30 attunement, 40 intelligence, and 40 faith, then use pyromancy and/or dark spells.
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Is there any way to capitalize on someone getting knocked down by your force/emit force? Seems like they can roll away scot free every time.
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>>157277781
The program I use is scptoolkit. It has a github and everything, and it works perfectly for my DualShock 3. It comes with DS4 drivers too, so it should work there as well.
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>>157279745
No.
Use Force to blow people off ledges to their death. That's its only purpose.
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>>157279850
Right now I use emit force to try and catch rollers. It works a little less than "occasionally".
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>Summoned for Freja
>Host enters the mist
>She fires her beam and kills me through the fog before I even have a chance to go through it
Fucking FromSoft fix your shit.
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>>157279907
>trying to rollcatch with spells
Not a good idea.
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>>157277573
Yeah
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94742
Avoid the crescent moon sword
>>
>Playing PS4 SOTFS
>invading blue smelter
Feels good.
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>>157280052
Yeah I'm a shitter, right now it's either that or lightning bolt and that's even worse for actually hitting anyone because it has no AoE.
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>>157280309
Just use lightning stake.
It's a straight damage upgrade over spear and had a large lingering multihit AoE hitbox that can actually catch rolls.
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>>157280398
Haven't found that yet, I just beat Pontiff for the first time.
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>>157280228
You devilish asshole
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>>157280446
It's back in the Catacombs.
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>>157280494
wonder how I missed it, I'm usually pretty thorough but I guess that place could fuck with my sense of direction
>too bad I just removed my blessed infusion
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>>157279464
I didn't say that it was likely or made sense, just that I would not be bothered by its inclusion in the game as a whole. We don't know what kind of environment DLC2 is going to be in.
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>>157280228
bruh..

Anyhoo.
Do you people think we will ever get a more frustrating level than Frigid Outskirts or Iron Passage?

IMHO those two take the cake for the most asshole parts of all soulsborne games.
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>that purple
what exactly happened down there?
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Do you lads ever make a weapon raw in DS3? When should I?
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>>157280596
I love invading both of those areas. Frigid outskirts is absolutely hilarious with the ring of living and white clothing
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>>157279519
You know what I have to do to get DaS3 to work with Windows 10: each time I start the computer, I have to go into device manager and disable then re-enable the controller (think it's under human interface devices or something) while any other program that could possibly use a controller is closed. Then I start InputMapper; it's the only one I could get to work. The common theme between all the different DS4 tools is that the controller must be in exclusive mode to work with DaS3. It's complete horseshit that in 2016 year of our lord, a fucking USB device wouldn't work automatically once plugged in. I know for a fact microshit is doing it on purpose to make people use Xbone controllers, and I completely defy them.
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That's it for me tonight, enjoy your beers canuck host
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>>157280841
Aw, well thanks for coming and i am very much so
also ran out of embers had to grab one from the shrine i'm back
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>>157280841
goodnight anon

whoever you were I had fun playing with you
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Oh there's an FC still going?
Lemme get on.
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>>157281094

Meh it's dead, end of FC everyone. I hope you all enjoyed the sweaty fcbf action
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>>157280560
>wiki it
oh, that's why I missed it
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>>157280813
>I know for a fact microshit is doing it on purpose to make people use Xbone controllers, and I completely defy them.
Fuckin A man.
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Thanks for hosting, Anon!
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>>157281147
hehe
I wasn't gonna spoil it for ya but it's definitely pretty well hidden.
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>>157281143
FFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>157281270
Well there was no way I was gonna try and kill that thing until I came back way later, now I guess I have to do it for epic too-early miracles.
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>>157281143
goodnight qt
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>>157281338
It's actually a totally half-finished asset. Once you get behind it, killing the damn thing is trivial. It's pretty lame.
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>>157280596
"Think we'll ever get levels designed as lazily and with as much artificial difficulty as that awful shit from DS2?"

I fucking hope not.
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>>157266289
Aldritch (The Chosen Undead)
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>>157281578
Nah, tsorig is the chosen undead, and is also bearer of the curse.
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>>157281686
Laddersmith Gilligan is the firstborn son of Lord Gwyn.
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>>157281752
That rock selling chick is also gwyneveres sister.
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>>157281686
Tsorig isn't even undead
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>>157281821
And the queen of Lothric.
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>lose duel
>have to quickly tab out to /dsg/ so I don't see their stupid fucking taunt
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Is it just me, or does practically every enemy in DaS3 have a FUCKTON of Dark resistance? Why in the hell does this damage type even exist?
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>>157282316
Pvp
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>>157282316
Quite a few are weak to dark, actually. And nothing that resists fire resists dark. It's essential for pyros.
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>>157282275
I do the same. It's funny hehheheheh.
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>>157282045
And ocerios is one of the four kings that survived.
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>>157278710
Shit I'm trying to do this but now I've plugged my shit in and DS4Windows isn't even detecting it. I think I resolved this issue last time but I can't remember...
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>>157282465
He's the fifth one that only spawns if you suck.
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>>157282465
don't be stupid, Oceiros is OBVIOUSLY Seath reincarnated
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>>157282551
So he transitioned into a regular guy, then into a dragon. Excellent lore were discovering here
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>>157282549

Uninstall DS4Windows and reinstall it starting from step 1. I had this problem when I was trying other controller programs.
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was it ever confirmed that we'll be fighting Allfather Lloyd in the dlc? Who is the girl?
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Is DaS online down or something? I see no signs, messages, or stains. And no nodes.
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Anyone else play with a Wii U Pro controller? It works well after you do the device manager trick.
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>>157282429
>fighting ODK by spamming Black Serpent over and over for that sweet Chaos Bed Vestiges as soon as possible

also, pure pyro is such a fucking walking nuke this time around, it almost feels like cheating. Chaos Bed Vestiges does an absurd amount of damage for it's FP cost
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>>157282594
You fool, that stick ocerios carries is obviously a widdled down sword of the four kings. Pfft.
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>>157282316
Hollows are naturally resistant to dark
Everything that isn't a hollow is weak to it, with notable exceptions being abyss and DEEP creatures like the spiderlions, ratdogs and Aldrich, Grave Warden skellies and the DSA (for whatever reason, he's abyssal).
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>>157282859
It still doesn't measure up to pyros in DaS1. Or even come close to sorceries in DaS1. I just wish the other schools of magic were as good this time around.

It is pretty ridiculous how early you get access to all the really good pyromancies, though. You can get your best spells before irithyll, while CSS and sunlight spear are locked behind the end of the game
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>>157282758
stop thinking it's stinking up the thread
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Still playing ds3 ng++++ and I beat dancer on first try, why should I keep playing?
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>>157283051
well I'd imagine that Abyss-corrupted creatures like the Pus of Men, etc. would be resistant to Dark, they're literally overflowing with it
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>SL 100

>STR weapons like FUGS have 20-40 AR advantage, when everyone can't just go 40/40, compared to other UGS with equal stat investment

>its the the shitty SL 120 meta that makes everyone be HP tank and DPS
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>>157283116
>It still doesn't measure up to pyros in DaS1.
I disagree, pyro in DaS3 feels orders of magnitude stronger than pyro in DaS1.

In DaS1, your cast limits were so strict that pyros were relegated to "get out of FUBAR situation free" cards, because you just didn't have the casts to go around murdering every enemy with them.

In DaS3 you can spam them like sorceries
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>>157283271
You shouldn't, there's no point to playing ng+ since the pve in this game is so boring and repetitive. You're better off making a new build.
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>>157283326
>SL100
>can barely even equip the FUGS or swing it twice without wearing rags and putting my stamina into the negatives.
>27vig
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>>157283405
Was thinking pickaxe only run (including Yhorm since his fight is zzzzz)
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>>157283401
I guess. Pyros in DaS1 had the added benefit of no scaling though, so you could just use a light dex weapon to make it through the level with ease and then melt the boss in half your great combustions
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>>157283418
>FUGS
There's your problem right there. The thing weighs more than an elephant. Go for one of the lighter UGS like Astora GS, which for some reason, does just as much damage.
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Is it still possible to skip irithyll dungeon?
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who /worldwithoutfire/ here? did any of you start up the Londor end, only to summon the Firekeeper and betray literally everyone including Kaathe to let the flame go out?
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>>157283418
>imploding
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94779
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>>157283718
Yes
Then I betrayed the firekeeper, too.
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>>157283782
basic bitch ass pleb
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>>157283717

You can skip the second half of it with Spook/Silvercat Ring by dropping from the right location where you can see the Profaned Capital from to the entrance of it.
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>>157283749
>Vit
>Str not at 66

free kill/10
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There are only two optional bosses pre- Lothric Castle

Let that sink in.
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>>157283985
What the fuck are you talking about? That's still over 600 AR. Its not meant to go against fucking 120s you fucking retard.
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>>157283979
I keep trying, but every time I land I die, even with silvercat ring
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>>157284120
100 is in range to be summoned by 120s for duels, and invade them via red orb.
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>>157284114
Honestly, this game doesn't feel as long as BB. Maybe it's just because I've played it more recently, but especially coming from DaS2, I was expecting it to be a bit longer with quite a few more bosses. Now I see the first DLC won't even fix that since there are only two (2) new bosses.
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>>157284237
This whole discussion was about SL 120 being cancerous due to 40 in everything. Weapons like fume are best when not in that meta. Try to keep up.
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>>157284114
There is only one boss pre- Firelink

Let that sink in.
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>>157283749
>can't even parry
>literally has ragged mask on
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>>157284295
>coming from DaS2
>game bloated with long poorly designed levels and bosses that almost nobody remembers outside a few that are either 'okay' or 'meme for some reason'
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>>157284423
And everybody remembers the DS3 bosses because there are five of them
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>invade gank squad of "crusaders"
>they do the prayer gesture when after they kill me

is this some gay knockoff of vicars, minus the killing bloodshades? There's none really left, it's just an excuse to gank at this point
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>>157284480
That's exactly what it is. It's the bloodshade people who realized the faith ganksquads were more potent than the bleed ganksquads.
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>>157284341
Armor is complete shit. The base defense does most of the work, and Absorption is only 5%-6% less than typical knight gear. If you want your parry crutch tool, just switch out one of the pieces for something lighter.
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>>157284327
but how is it not meant to go against fucking 120s when it can go against fucking 120s
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>>157283326
28/40 is fine you should not 1h UGS in pvp
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So this is my BB build. He's a big guy and he does damage and has lots (lots) of HP.

What's the closest I can get to this in DaS3 while still being under 100?
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>>157283718
I always do world without fire. It feels the most fitting given, especially as a conclusion to the series.

Also because you get to be with your waifu.
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>>157284546
When the inevitable brackets for DLC arena drops of course :^)
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>>157284463
Not an argument. DaS2 having a lot of shitty bosses isn't justified because there was more of them to go around.
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>>157284423
Well, you may be somewhat correct, but there were some good bosses and the game was longer/had more areas. We could sit and debate the quality of each, but what's the point?

What isn't debatable is that BB, while being short and having few less bosses, had way more memorable ones compared to DaS3. Then if you want to include CD bosses and the first DLC from each, BB beats it in both quality and quantity.
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>>157284114
>implying Dancer isn't optional for sequence breaking
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>>157284769
>that HP

impossible in DS3
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>>157280118
Sunless chest is superior darkmoon fashion
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>>157284423
>DaS2
>long levels
wat
At least do your research before pretending you played a game
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>>157284821
interesting
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>>157284841
It meant there was an actual game to play beyond 6 hours
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>>157284810
my waifu is Anri though
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>>157283326
>everyone can't just go 40/40
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94792
>40/40
>1801 HP
>30 end
>CCS, Caestus, Arbalest, full fallen knight armor
>SL100

all you lose compared to 120 is a ring slot and some stamina, but you've still got more than you'll ever need to kill a UGS user, especially since walking backwards and shooting is a legitimately unbeatable strategy when you're fighting someone who needs you to run into their swings.
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>>157285093
I just contracted cancer thanks for the build
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I've finally gotten around to getting a close look at the artorias chestpiece, and it's painful obvious now why goddamn every random shitter wears it.

This shit has so much more detail than most of the armour in the game. The textures are a higher resolution and everything, it's like they just gave this set a much higher design footprint than every other chestpiece for no good reason. It's really quite silly
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>>157284769
50 VIG + rings

Raw sellswords + resins or something and do nothing but spam the combo
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>>157284810
One of the few pics of her that actually shows her smug smile
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>>157284991
>responds with the same Not-Argument
I feel the /v/ leaking in already
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>>157285406
why is Firekeeper so smug?
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what's the better tragic-orchestral boss theme?

this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnXEoocAy8

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3bityYL1G8
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>>157284769
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94797
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>>157285635
Maria's is better, but Princes' is still top-tier.
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>>157285161
consider this as well if you're interested in 120

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94798
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>>157285478
And you have no argument outside of memes and
>Not an argument
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>>157285635
Neither of those are tragic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8WXoKrqIi0
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can we start vicars back up again?
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Wasn't there supposed to be a black phantom Patches in NG+7 Dark Firelink?
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>>157285882
man, fuck Aldia. what an evil cunt, but everyone seems to forget all the super fucking evil experiments he did on people
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>>157285836
I gave my argument, you just replied with the same thing twice. Iudex/The Champ Gundyr, Twin Princes, etc. There's less bosses but I enjoy more of them.

I can barely even remember the "Mytha" part of "Mytha, the Baneful Queen" because the only thing I remember about that boss fight is summoning Jester "Rape them all" Thomas to kill someone named the Baneful Queen.
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How are you actually supposed to make this roll i keep fucking it up every time and getting stopped at the railing. i've been running back to the area and trying again for a solid hour
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>>157285548

Cause she sees your dick.... oh wait
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>>157286016
Aldia does absolutely fucking nothing at all in the entire story.
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>>157286121
But you remember the fight, and the NPC
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>>157286228
except invent the golems that populate Drangleic Castle and Eleum Loyce, as well as supply the majority of the fucked-up monsters in the game, as well as harbor the Giant's Kinship and redpill the player on the futility of linking the fire
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>>157286210

You can just jump or mid-roll to it. If you're using the FPS unlocker you should know that your jumps and rolls are shorter.
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>>157286121
Jester "Women and children burn the best" Thoma
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>>157286231
I remember the appearance, and some of the motions she did. I remember the NPC because he invades you and he rapes the boss to death without mercy in a few moments.

The boss being remembered at all shouldn't be your priority, the boss being remembered because it was a good one should.

Off the top of your head, list all the DaS2 bosses you can remember

Then, think of the ones that you really remembered

Then, remove out of those the ones you remember for reasons like Mytha

How many good bosses are really left?
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>>157286295
Useless fuck. I already knew that. Face it he's just a shitty extra boss that explodes from bonfires and rambles about useless shit everyone already knows about.
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>>157285635
Nah fuck you, this is true tragic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6sOhQan9Y

>tfw you will never fight a hollowed-out and desperate Gwyn during a torrential downpour, as if the sky itself is crying for him and his fate
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>>157286374
bosses i remember off the top of my head
>smelter demon red and blue
>skeleton lady with blob bottom
>scorpion lady
>gargoyles just because they're in all games
>rotton because all games have mass of flesh boss
>fume knight
>katana guy
>tigers
>lightsaber kind
>bell hammer guy
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>>157286374
You remember DaS3 bosses because we're all still playing it. For some reason. Half of the DaS2 bosses aren't memorable, but I never once had gone "ugh, I have to fight this boss". Everybody always talks about how the creative stuff is great, but they hate every creative boss, and jump all over the dick of "dude with sword". Plus, "dude with sword" is the best boss in every single souls game
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>>157286418

This will always be the best boss music.
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>>157286637
>DaS2 bosses aren't memorable, but I never once had gone "ugh, I have to fight this boss".

how could you fucking not

das2 bosses were fucking dogshit
>>
>five (5) Souls games
>only DaS2 has an option to replay bosses without going into a new NG cycle, and that option makes the boss as tough as the next NG cycle anyways

For what reason. It's not even like they need to award the boss's soul again, what if I just want to fight the boss again for fun?
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>>157286354
Jester "if you roll away, you die today" Thomas

Jester "Forbidden Sun? Forbidden Fun!" Thomas

Jester "cancelling animations like I cancel HP bars" Thomas

Jester "infinite casts for infinite rage" Thomas

Jester "I came here to chug estus and kill hosts, and invaders can't chug estus" Thomas
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>moundmaker sign isn't white if wearing white ring

LITERALLY ONE JOB. Right now sun reds are better moundmakers than the half-assed covenant.
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>12-10-16
>still cant play bloodborne without buying a $300 blue ray player
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>>157286867
it's called an exclusive, eurocuck
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>>157286717
Because I have fun with games.
I enjoy most of the bosses in all souls games, but the most 'creative' are often the most unfun of them all, like Bed of Chaos and Dragon King. Cursed Greatwood and Wjolnir are annoying because I have to hope their pattern doesn't just keep me from attacking. Once I had to wait 15 minutes just to hit Wjlonir's bracelet once because he would do nothing but sword attacks
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>>157286637
>Half of the DaS2 bosses aren't memorable, but I never once had gone "ugh, I have to fight this boss"
>skeleton lords
>prowling magus and congregation
>executioner's chariot
>Royal Rat Vanguard
>Royal Rat Authority
>
Yeah, go fuck yourself
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>>157286824

Hosts just need an incentive to summon a purple.. like double soul gain if you have summoned one.
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>>157286418
I liked it how in DaS3 they gave Gwyn lightning magic
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>>157286824
That would make it way too easy, anon.

1. Get summoned into someone's world
2. Pull a Maldron and Hornet backstab them when they're low and aren't looking
3. Receive free vertebra

Gotta work for your reward.
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>>157287007
If retards don't figure out red=bad, then its their problem
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>>157286637
>Congregation
>Mytha
>Covetous Demon
>Skeleton memes
>Royal rats
>not totally unbearable and dull
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How do you have fun in this game without being a disgusting meta shitter?
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>>157286948
>skeleton lords
>prowling magus and congregation
>executioner's chariot
>Royal Rat Vanguard
>Royal Rat Authority
Anon, you only "have" fight two of those. And even then you don't have to fight any of them if you get 1 million souls or redo a major boss
>>
r8 progress to 120 so far.

Going for 60 faith and 40 strength.
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>>157287126
I really liked Mytha personally.
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>>157287175
Yeah but everyone and their mother is going to fight chariot twice for chloranthy +2 etc regardless.
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>>157287171
what websites does the Firekeeper post on?

what porn does she browse?
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>>157287175
>these bosses being godawful is okay because you can skip them
>but it matters than DaS2 has more content than 3 even though it's more dreadful
>but it's okay because you can skip it
???
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>>157286948

"ugh, I have to fight this boss" is a feeling reserved for fucking annoying AND difficult bosses such as Defiled Amygdala, Defiled Keeper, Depth 5 Pthumeru Descendant, etc

None of those bosses are sufficiently annoying or difficult enough for me to feel that same feel
Most are over quickly and skeleton lords are fun for me, also all of them are optional
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>>157287171
twinking
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Fuck you. I hope you get burned alive while being water boarded.
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>>157287284
>burned alive
>while dousing water over them
uhh...
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>>157286812
>DLC comes out
>Invaded by dark spirit Jester Thomas
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>>157287246
Because you choose to. That's for a ring
>>157287264
>I don't like having options
You know what you can't do? Skip BoC
Or any of the half dozen garbage, forgettable bosses in DeS
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>>157287284
I did the same with some blue fag who didn't want to fight. Feels good.
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>>157287252
Tumblr and livejournal because she has nothing else to do
Exclusively gay porn, male or female
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>>157287284
You were probably being a fag

I've sent home many a darkmoon while I was hiding with chameleon on, they walk their dumbasses up to near me and wave and drop prism stones and be faggots spoiling where I am so I boot them faggots
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>>157287472
>You were probably being a fag
I had just spawned in and ran up the steps.
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>>157287268
>shifting goalposts so that bosses that are UGH-tier have to be difficult now too

>>157287393
>shifting goal posts to go back to DaS when it was about 2 vs 3

k
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>>157263294
Iudex, vordt, abyss watchers, catacombs, smoldering lake. Vestiges are better than great chaos fireball for invasions, atleast in my opinion so use wolnirs and old demon kings soul to get black serpent and vestiges and you should be good to go. Depending on how much attunement you want you can also use raw astora straight sword + carthus flame arch.
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>>157287623
why is Black Serpent so terrible in pve? what the fuck is up with it's shit-tier damage?
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>>157287373
I'd take Thomas over Maldron the fucking faggot foot-Panzer Assassin any day.
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>>157287608
Here's the ultimate counter to your argument, anon, and no amount of shitposting can counter it
We both have fun with what we like, even if it's not the same thing. I liked 3 the least of any souls game since it relies on nostalgia more than 2 did, with Bloodborne as my second lowest, but I know that BB is objectively super good
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>>157287664
I don't understand either, but black serpent followed by chaos bed vestige is a nice pvp combo.

and dark fireball is quite nice for killing silver knights and stuff since it stuns them which vestige doesn't.
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>>157287393
>Because you choose to.
That doesn't mean it isn't still completely booring, unfun, unenjoyable, and unmemorable outside of the fact that I can deeply remember how booring unfun and unenjoyable it is.

If you really want to use the "It's optional excuse" then we can just play that logic all the way out and make the point that DS2 in and of itself is optional. May as well skip the whole game.
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i think going to dsg fcs has seriously made me way better than I used to be

I put down my sign at pontiffs for the first time in ages to test out my str/fai build and I beat the shit out of the vast majority of people who summoned me

thanks for reading my blog post, please like and subscribe
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>>157287664
Because it's one of the earliest sources of dark damage that doesn't require obscure and specific questline hoops to jump through and it's a fast, low-cost ranged spell that literally cannot miss in pve.

If you need non-fire damage as a pyro pre-Karla, just heave boulders. It does about twice as much damage as black serpent and staggers EVERYTHING.
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>>157287845
At least 3 handled nostalgia better than 2. 2 was fucking awful at bringing back things from DaS1.

2 also plays like you're underwater the whole time

The hitboxes and animations are shit

SM is shit

Honestly if you think 2 is superior because you don't like DaS1 references then you should hang yourself
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>>157287993
It's almost like fun is subjective
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>>157287921
Delish bait senpai
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>>157287993
Yet 3 is dying faster than every other souls game
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>>157287993
2 wasn't supposed to, or was even trying to do nostalgia. It didn't need it.
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>>157287608
Why would a boss be UGH-tier if you hit it three times and you're done?

Have you played Bloodborne?
You don't dread any boss in DaS2 coming up like you do the defiled chalice.
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>>157288127
yet it still had references to gwyn, nito, seath and the witch of izalith. :^)

And to this day I don't understand why gwyns soul produced the dragonslayer greatbow and not the greatsword of the great lord.
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>>157288270
And Gwyn + Chosen undead is LITERALLY a boss in Dark Souls 3.
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>>157288270
Because it would have just been UGS #304, with - scaling.
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>>157288127
What is
>Lord soul shards
>Old Dragonslayer
>Chasm of the Old, by extension Xanthous set
>Varg
>The Gutter
>etc.

>>157288137
>muh bloodborne
I played Bloodborne, I had fun. Defiled chalice bosses and Laurence were tough shit for me to fight, but that doesn't somehow change my view on DaS2 having shitty bosses that make me groan.

All that arbitrary waiting in Executioner's Chariot, a mob of rats, a bigger rat, a bunch of weak mobs in a room with a differently dressed mob that has more HP aren't any better or less stupid just because Bloodborne was hard.
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a m8 just told me the deluxe edition was recently on sale

bravo bamco, I preorder your shit on day one and end up losing money before the content is even released
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>>157288613
Delish bait senpai
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>>157288367
>oversimplification while also using LITERALLY
3 handled references better than 2 by acting as more direct sequel.

"Oh, this is the chasm of the old. Here's DaS1 NPCs again, but we won't even bother to give Jeremiah the right load-out."

"Oh, here's Ornstein again across the sea in an isolated location but not a smidgen of suggestion that it ISN'T him for some reason."
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>>157288707

No, 3 shoves references down your throat and has even less of a distinct identity than 3.

>Look, Solaire's covenant again :DDDD
>Look, it's Andre :DDDD
>Wow, look, the final boss is the same final boss as the first one!
>Hey remember Dusk? She's here and dead, lol
>Remember Artorias? Look, wolves! yiff!
>Hey, the tranny got devoured by the slime god! Woah!
>Hey, you like Anor Londo? We'll stick the whole fucking thing here for no reason! Epic archers!!1
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>>157288707
>Here's Ornstein's body with no explanation as to why
>Here's new lore that directly contradicts every previous game (take your pick)
>Here's Gwyn
>Here's Andre for no reason
>Here's the hag for no reason
>Here's Patches again for no reason
>Here's Alva for no reason
>Can't forget about Gwyndolin
>And the Fair Lady
>And Queelana
>and Taurus Demon
>And Asylum Demon
>Yup, Havel again
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Do you ever get genuinely mad after completing a boss for the first try?

My first time beating the Abyss Watchers I was so angry I actually shouted "what the hell" out loud because the boss let me stunlock him and died in like two stamina bars and a backstab. After all the build up from the opening sequence, Hawkwood talking up the undead legion and the whole slog through Farron Keep I had expected an actual bossfight and not a glorified mob with a boss healthbar.
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>>157288873
>Here's Creighton for no reason
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>>157289059
>>157288873
>>157288850
and Lucatiel's sword from a tree because sure
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>>157288978
If they'd just had some actual poise the fight would have been brilliant
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>DaS3 is the last Dark Souls game
>DLC 2's final boss will be the last boss Dark Souls gets
Any prediction on who the final boss will be?
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only 12 days left oh boy
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>>157289221
Gwyn
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>>157289221
It's repeatable boss rush mode in a supercharged Kiln
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>>157289221
It could only be one man
dark soul
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>>157289221
Ludleth the colossus
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>>157289145
Yeah
Having a small healthpool on a boss can be okay
Being staggerable on a boss can be okay
But combining both is a big nono. It just makes it far too easy to do enormous amounts of damage on a boss that can't take any damage before dying.

Even Maria was made a less interesting boss by being stunlockable, and she had a healthbar much better suited to it.
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>>157288873
>Wolf's blood, get it? Artorias is back! xD
>Abyss's daughter, so more cute Manus girls!
>You like Anor Londo? You can play a portion of it again now on ice!
>We continued Lucatiel's story gaiz~
>Dragons = Seath so we brought back a fairly balanced MLGS as a traditional reference
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>>157288978
The only times I got really upset at bosses the first time around was when I think I finally killed them but then a cutscene happens and then their hp is completely filled again, and they're stronger.

And then it happens again.

And then it happens again.

Instead of just cutting to a scene at half-hp like in every other fucking Soulsborne game, the lazy chinks had to dupe the players, flip them off and give the bosses multiple health bars.

Quality game design, Miyazakifags.
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>>157288850
>Look, Solaire's covenant again
DaS2 did this while also shoving the statue in a mine for some reason. In DaS3 it's at least in a castle that praises dragons because its covenant owner does.
>Look, it's Andre
Look, it's Pharis, Ricard, Jeremiah with a straightsword, Havel, and Ornstein
>Hey remember Dusk? She's here and dead, lol
She was dead in Dark Souls 1. Farron Keep is Darkroot Baisin after many years.
>Remember Artorias?
In Dark Souls 1 he's already acquired a legacy as a hero. In 3 there's people who followed in his footsteps, and? 2 had the Majestic Greatsword - I fail to see your point.
>Gwyndolin's death
Part of Space Pope "Moving out of this condo to conquer Anor Londo" Sulyvahn's master plan, something that was well documented
>Anor Londo itself
Hey guys, remember Blighttown? Welcome to the Gutter.
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>>157289221
The Dark Soul
An amalgamation of all the player characters to have reached the kiln and refused linking the fire through all the previous games.
>>
What's wrong with being over the 125 soul meta when in fight clubs you get scaled down? Right? Or that's not how it works...?

Is there a way to copy save files at least on ps4?
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>>157289378
>"It's fine though" the post
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>>157289221
Primordial Hydra, or I burn Fromsoft to the fucking ground.

>>157288873
>>157289312
Not to mention the first DLC already:
>Remember Sif?
>Remember Ariamis?
>Remember Priscilla, Maria, and Gehrman?
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>>157289221
Should likely be the hardest boss they can put in as a proper sendoff. I'll be fine with anything new so long as it's not some fucking cashgrab by fanservice.
>Fight Dark Soul in Dark Souls
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>>157289450
More like Primordial Worm
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>>157289378
>Falling for the b8
you're right about everything though
>>
Any recomendations for my darkmoon esque build?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94834

Maybe a sorcery or two?
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>>157289462
As much as I love hard bosses and DaS3 is lacking them, I think I would rather something be more focused on presentation and thematic payoff over just straight combat design.

In Dark Souls 2, the Ivory King is much more memorable that the Fume Knight despite the fact that the former was a really, really easy boss because it had that presentation that made it more than just a bossfight.

DaS3 kinda lacks that, and I would rather their final sendoff be a memorable experience rather than a memorable fight.
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>>157289462
>>157289221
>It's Gwyn, but blue, so his fire does magic damage
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>>157288873
>Ornstein's body
Dragonslayer Armor =/= Liono himself, dragon armor is dragon armor
>Here's new lore that directly contradicts every previous game (take your pick)
Give me some, and while you're at it give me some that this isn't true for in 2.
>Here's Gwyn
DaS2
>Here's Andre for no reason
DaS2
>Here's the hag for no reason
It's just a merchant, anon.
>Here's Patches again for no reason
BB, DeS
>Here's Alva for no reason
Karla is Zullie
>Gwyndolin
The whole arc about the fall of Anor Londo
>Fair Lady
Demon Ruins/Smouldering Lake is Ash Lake/Lower Blighttown colliding together as per lands converging
>Queelana
??
>Taurus Demon
It's the demon ruins, demons are dying because the chaos flame is dying
>Asylum Demon
I concede
>Havel
Except it's actually justified instead of just being in there like 2 was with Varg the memecient Soldier
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>>157289747
Straight up, if DaS3 brought back the smelter demon I would cheer it.

I loved that boss, and his raidbox redux was legit one of the most fun challenges in the dlcs.
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>>157289797
>Except it's actually justified
*ringring* It's havel
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>>157289378
I think that Anor Londo's inclusion, while fanservice had it's place, and it's definitely isn't 1 to 1. I think it really reaffirmed to me that it's a new cycle that's doomed to repeat itself, with kingdoms and ages merging into each other. I like it.

DS3 though really doesn't have a lot of unique armors though, or perhaps I'm just focusing only on the returning ones. Meh, I still get my elite knight set, one of my favorite sets.
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>>157289878
hopefully we get more qt clothes in the dlc.
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>>157289635
Bow is trash, 110 is retarded, and Pillars is useless. ToD CMW 120 darkmoon invader with that build is better. Dark infuse a weapon for backup damage. You can use HSM and maybe farron dart or something.
Alternatively go full mageblade
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>>157289873
>Archdragon Peak, a place that exists beyond standard time and space where warrior spirits go
>Ricard, Drakeblood Knight, and Havel both persisting long after they should've died because they were warriors
>But because it's Havel there's the issue
>Not Ricard in Chasm of the Old
>Not TWO (2) Havels in 2
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>>157289635
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>>157289221
Andre.
> all the flames are dying
> all the coals becomes worthless
> he slowly goes insane
> he's unable to reinforce weapons and infuse them
> you're now able to, through concentrating the embers of being an unkindled
> the final boss is Andre
> he stands over you, now hollow.
> thunder in his thighs and lightning in his fists
> in the battle he fist fights you
> he's extremely quick and agile
> when beaten, you take it in
> the one who has helped you through 1 and 3 is no more. The most useful npc is dead at your hands
> this time, though...you had no choice.
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>>157290180
>Archdragon Peak, a place that exists beyond standard time and space where warrior spirits go

>Gwyn's firstborn was lost to the annals of history
>Nobody knows where he went
>Oh wait whats that place on the mountain over there
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>>157290297
>phase 2
>ahh...you were at my side all along
>equips +20 Estoc
>full HP
>>
>ds3 soundtrack was composed and produced on a macbook by a single Japanese female

yeah i don't believe it. are there any interviews or anything about the music for ds3?
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>>157290428
> when it's a smithing masterpiece and he was behind all the pvp all along
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>>157290450
Believable since there are only two memorable songs in the whole game.
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>>157289221

The Four Kings
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>>157290428
>"Aye.....yee been at moi soide all this toime"

>Pulls out hammer

>"Now I know ye expected me to pull out moi estoc, but the truth of the thing is, it's actually the hammer I've been improving all this time!"

Black Hammer +99
>>
best staff at 30 intel?
>>
I made a new character for Dark Souls 2 because I'm going to be playing through it with a friend soon.

I love the foot soldier sword even though it has shit durability.

But I am really upset by how floaty and slow the animations feel, along with how the enemies can track me 360 degrees and break the rules in the game.

Hollows in Dark Souls 1 have a limited amount of stamina,but the ones in 2 with shields can take my entire stamina bar in punishment, which is absurd.
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>>157290398
remember that all the important places in the world are literally being pulled together so the champion of ash can get around easier
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>>157290673
>Hollows in Dark Souls 1 have a limited amount of stamina,but the ones in 2 with shields can take my entire stamina bar in punishment, which is absurd.
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>>157290450
Sakuraba did about a third of the tracks. Saitoh did the main theme and Suzuki did Deacons, but Kitamura did the rest.
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>>157290398
He was lost because he was a scalie faggot

You can't even get to that mountain, you have to go go gadget spirit project yourself
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>>157290673
you do happen to have a literal guard break.
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>>157290641
candle sword
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>>157289221
All 4 of Gwyn's knights in their prime.

Shit I'll take Artorias in his prime as a proper send off.
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>>157290560
>Cross the boss fog
>Drop straight down into the Abyss
>Boss HP bar appears
>Old King of Want
>fight progresses
>phase 2
>Sunken King
>Old Iron King
>Burnt Ivory King
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>>157290635
>His hammer has had all kinds of titanite smeltered into it over the eons of forging other weapons

>It has 200 Base damage in all elements and does all kinds of damage in each strike, thrust, slash, strike, fire, dark, lightning, magic, bleed, poison, frostbite even
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>>157290641
Heretics
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>>157290731

I can break the stamina of a hollow in Dark Souls 1 by two-handing a weapon and beating on their shield.

>>157290763

It's really clunky and punishable, unlike a kick. I really hate using them.
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>>157290829
Yeah, but unlike a kick, it straight-up breaks their guard and lets you riposte. It doesn't do extra stamina damage, it just breaks their guard.
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>>157290829
>Why can't I just r1 enemies?
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>>157290794
> you get the weapon
> it's absolute trash because of split defense
> absolutely no scaling
But Andre can sure rape you with it.
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>>157289221
The Dark Soul

Boss theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMWTyxrBgRU
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>>157290902

I only do that when it's taking them too long to attack so I can riposte them in 1

But I'm not that good with the parry times in 2, so I just go for the lazy strats in that one.
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>>157290743
is there anywhere to read about the process and how they worked?
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>>157290990
R1 mashing the shield is still R1 mashing, just git gid and guard break them
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>>157289221

Either of these.
>>157290773
>>157290792
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>>157290990
That's because parries in 2 aren't universal. Different weapon and shield types have different parry timings
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>>157291006
Don't know, I just know that from the official soundtrack credits.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was one woman on a Macbook for most of it, pretty sure Yamane composed almost all of SoTN's ost on a synthesizer.
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WE SHOULD ALL BULLY LADY MARIA!
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>>157290773
I never knew how much I wanted this. Ornstein is at prime in DS1 though, right? Since he's not one who is handicapped in one way or another, unlike Gough or Blade Ciaran who can't even best a human.
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>>157291006
They used computers. It's not hard to figure out anon. They used some orchestral/choir samples and vsts and made music.

Here's Bloodborne's Cleric Beast theme made electronically before the game came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUZ7UOYGAvE

Here's the final games version using live orchestra and real instruments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSk8-pJkX8
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>>157291153
That ornstein was an illusion
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>>157291141
where's that pastebin dickbag when you need him
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>>157291153
Ornstein's an illusion m8.
The only one you're really fighting is Snorlax.

Ornstein was long gone dead after he went seeking for his mentor
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>>157290983
Maybe if it was a piano / AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH copy paste like SoC's theme.
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>>157291159
oh i know, i was mostly wondering what kontakt libraries, and their techniques or any insight at all
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>>157291272
>kontakt libraries

the who and the what now?
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>>157291272
>enabling the native instruments jew
Anon....

Everyone worth their salt sources their own libraries/records their own and programs the samples manually.
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>>157291192
>>157291254
Really? This was only confirmed in DS3, right?
>>
I am really miffed by how From seems completely hell-bent on any direct references to New Londo and the Four Kings. Londor is "not-quite", and references to the Dark Wraiths just vaguely mention their country of origin. Nito got fenito, there are Demons everywhere, Seathe is referenced, but no love for the 4 Kings.
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>>157291406
Yep.
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>>157291254
>Ornstein got jealous of Artorias and Ciaran being a couple
>gets butthurt and goes to a suicide mission to make his friends give a shit about him
>they don't
:(
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>>157291396
not anymore my friend, we've gone past that being any good or efficient
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>>157291528
>efficient

Oh, you're one of those

Some people like t make music, not tracks, so *shrug*
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>>157291631
dude nobody creates their own personal use fucking full orchestral sample library since 2004
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>>157291406

Dragonslayer set:

Golden (piece name) associated with Dragonslayer Ornstein, from the age of gods, and imbued with the strength of lightning.

In the dragonless age, this knight, who long guarded the ruined cathedral, left the land in search of the nameless king.

You find the set on a corpse below NK.

>>157291491
Yeh m8
I'd really like to see any of the 4 Knights back.
We only get 1 boss fight of em.
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>>157291728
No, they don't need to. The libraries are out there.

You don't need fucking shitty expensive bloatware to do it.
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>>157291770
*2

Besides it's not like you can't kill Gough and Ciaran.
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>>157291793
i really don't get you now
it's pretty clear they used existing kontakt or whatever libs, i just wanted to know which ones, especially the choirs, i can't find that anywhere
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Better?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94854

Mainly using divine as an aesthetic spell
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>>157291452
Any time the Darkwraiths or the Abyss are mentioned, one can't help but think of the Four Kings.

Don't think there's much to be done about that though. Seath gets major mention because he's the father of sorcery, he always gets brought up because an entire stat is dedicated to him. Same for Witch of Izalith and Daughters of Chaos, the entirety of pyromancy was created by them. Nito gets one or two mentions in DaS2 but that's about it, he was very low-key in the game he was introduced in anyways. The best that the Four Kings can do is be tied to the Abyss, there's no real chance of their legacy being propagated forward because everybody from New Londo except for Ingward are all fucking dead.
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>>157291935
Still want them back on a BAMF boss fight.
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>>157292076
> when you killed ingward
New Londo was a mistake and must forever be forgotten.
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>>157292071
>completely disregarded everything /dsg/ told him after he asked the first time
Just make the fucking build and see if it's good.
>>
Friendly reminder that Maria in TOH had 3 phases and it's very likely one or both of the DLC bosses will have 3 phases as well.
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>>157292243

New Londo was a thriving culture that invented the restorative sorceries, and Gwyn himself recognized the virtue of the city
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>>157292431
i'm pretty certain the big guy stage of the final boss will have 2 stages because the moveset we've seen seems pretty boring
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>>157292720
The scythe lady will have two stages and so will the guy on the chair.
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>>157290983
I only got into the souls games this year but I already feel nostalgic about this theme, I played through 1 about 2 months before 3 released and I'm glad I did.

I wish I got into the games at the very beginning though, with how awesome the first games map is I bet it was insanely fun co-oping through that shit before everyone knew how to cheese most things, I sadly played offline the entire time to avoid getting meme'd on and didn't jump into pvp until the 2nd game at the bell tower, which made me realize how much fun I was missing.
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>>157292071
How do you go from trash to even worse garbage? Both of those spells are shit and Soul Stream is bugged out and only hits twice for shit damage post nerf

It's like looking into the mind of an average pontiff shitter
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>>157292431
The qt-not-Priscilla-not-Gerhman takes place in the same large hall as the giant harry man (Allfather Lloyd, her father, who is deaf for yet unknown reasons) and has two phases.
The second phase starts when you take out all of her HP.
A cutscene plays, she dies, crying out to her father. Her blood drains towards Lloyd and he finally notices his daughter's dead body, with you standing over her. He becomes enraged and the second phase begins (an entirely new boss fight). He beats the fuck out of you with the vessel that he was whipping himself over, his blood flammable just like Maria's. He can dump it all over the place and create lava AoEs.

Screencap.
>>
Fucking finally
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-13-steam-will-support-ps4-controllers-natively-on-pc
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>>157292814
>his blood is flammable
>he maims himself just to keep warm in the damning blizzard his daughter has brought upon the land
DEEPEST LORE
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>>157292856
>not using ps3 controller
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>>157292916
Its too small
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>>157292947
My fingers are long and I disagree. It fits perfectly well in my skeleton hands.
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>>157292814
Makes sense and would actually be noice.

I just want a not-Priscilla and no I'm not a furfag or a footfag.
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ds1>ds3>ds2
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>>157293190
that reminded me something i forgot to ask about months ago during my playthrough

why does one of those slug monsters just stare at you and not attack?
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>>157293139
DaS1>Das3=BB>DeS>>>>>>>>horseshit>>>>>>>slashysouls>>>>>>>Original DaS2>SOTFS
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>>157293297
He doesn't care anymore, look where his honor duels got him
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>>157293373
Typical braindead duelist. I see it now.
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>>157293373
>>157293454

i felt bad after slaying it. i was mindlessly slashing through all of them, when i turned around and saw one was remaining. while running towards it i noticed it was just standing there, staring and following my movements. i stared back for a few seconds before destroying it, and wondered if i had done something bad
>>
any fcs going on atm?
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>>157293751
>00:51:12
>weekday
No
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>>157293817
i work night shift, sometimes i forget mostly everyone else is asleep
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>>157293859
Same here.
I've also developed insomnia. I haven't slept in three days and have been trying to lul myself to sleep by watching Mr. Plinkett movie reviews.
>>
You think in the dlc we'll see ludleth in his prime?
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>>157294051
>haven't slept in 3 days
you'll literally die any moment, unless you're just being edgy
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>>157294051
Take four benadryl and enter the Abyss
Don't die retard
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>>157294170
I mean I did sleep, for one hour if that counts.
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>>157294249
that will just delay it, like >>157294239
said don't die you idiot and go get help instead
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>>157294051

Drink enough alcohol to pass out, should give you around 12 hours of sleep.
>>
will we get Priscilla robe in the dlc?
and will the leggings give us her high res feet for our characters?
>>
WILL WE EVER SEE PRISCILLIA'S PUBES
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>>157294239
>>157294329
>>157294284
Scourged through my med cabinet and found a small bottle of "Sleep Aid". Just took one down. Now we wait.

To stay on topic, what's your current build like, /dsg/? Mine is an Irithylian qt that is going to be using the Twin Princes' GS, with attuned miracles Force and Vow of Silence. I call her the Lothric Usurper.
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>>157294553
i am Jym

just Jym

pure str build with lots of end and vig, some some extra vit on the side for enough fashion and so i can replace havel's ring
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>>157294553
Take at least 80mg Diphenhydramine unless you are a starved 14 year old girl
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>>157289797
>>157289873
>literally every single fucking line ever referencing Havel has implied that there are havel warriors that wear his shit
>havel gave up dragontooth AT LEAST by the time DS3 rolls around, it not earlier
>wahwah ds2 varg makes no sense
>wahwah i have even more severe autism than the above goyim and ds3 havel in ADP makes no sense

get the fuck out of the discussion if you can't keep up with the basics of the story, you people are the reason DS2 had "le no lore" and why DS3 lore is at best "SULYVAHN DID IT"
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>>157295192
>80mg

>>157294553
jesus christ dont listen to him, that shit will kill you. take only what's recommended on the bottle
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>>157295252
Three benadryl is 75mg, sleep dosages are about 50-100 dependent on size and tolerance. You can go up to 125 and be fine as long as you don't stay awake long enough for the shadow creatures to come out/spend 4 hours masturbating furiously. You could even go up to 800mg if you weren't so sleep deprived and still not die although you would be tripping hard in Hell.

On topic my current build is DeS quality (28/40 with 15 fai for knockoff second chance+blessed weapon)
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Anyone wanna help with blue smelter on PS4?
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>>157287373
>rush his ass
>p-p-please let me gesture
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is greatsword just flat out better than pursuers greatsword?

>better damage
>same counter and moveset
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>>157296753
Greatsword is heavier, and Pursuer's looks sexier.

But realistically, Greatsword is hands-down one of the best in its class (pretty sure FUGS can beat it), the main drawback is that you'll get less rolling distance when dodging. The Pursuer's 1HL1 starts with a horizontal swing though, which can be useful for targeting certain enemies or if you're in a hallway.
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>get told darklurker is an easy sl80 boss, not an endgame one
>do less damage to it that i do to the dlc bosses

not only is he harder than any boss in the basegame, but he's also harder than ivory/ avaa/ elana AND sihn
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>>157297112
Use Profound Still on it, and laugh. Also, use a fire AOE when it begins its split, with luck you'll both at once and deal double damage to its health bar.
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>>157288850
>>Look, Solaire's covenant again :DDDD
It's not Solaire's covenant you retard. I could stop here and tell you you have idea what you're talking about but
>>Look, it's Andre :DDDD
Yeah, this is kinda bullshit
>>Wow, look, the final boss is the same final boss as the first one!
It has similarities and there is an express reason for those
>>Hey remember Dusk? She's here and dead, lol
>>Remember Artorias? Look, wolves! yiff!
Fanservice kinda, but keep in mind we are talking about an actual sequel. Farron is darkroot. Better than randomly having Arty's sword in brume tower for no reason and with bullshit properties
>>Hey, the tranny got devoured by the slime god! Woah!
Your point?
>>Hey, you like Anor Londo? We'll stick the whole fucking thing here for no reason! Epic archers!!1
Once again, sequel
>whole thing
I wish. They left the best part out.
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Are there any good backup weapons for a mage besides the short and long sword? Should I be infusing either of them?
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>>157297439
sage rapier
cmw on anything fast
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>>157297517
>sage rapier
Well shit looks like I'm going to NG+ for that one. Thanks though at least it'll be different from this boring longsword. Stupid thing is just so damn good for everything I couldn't get away from it.
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>>157273661
The best boss in the Souls series.
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>>157273661
stage 2 is so much easier, his sword slams have a really forgiving hitbox and getting behind him is a breeze
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>>157292491
>1 next to worthless spell that cures status effects
>when darkroot is literally next door
>got retconned into a miracle
>1 even more worthless spell that doesn't even work properly and never appeared again
Anything else?
>>157292814
Did you see the amount of blood? Blood doesn't flow that far, especially in snow. It make such a bloodpool you need to either drag the body (even then the lines would be thinner) or grind it against the floor (that bowl of his would make a fine tool to do that). For blood to flow that far, she'd need to be a blood filled balloon (which in retrospect is not too unlikely considering how bleed works in 3) and the floor would need to be slanted
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>>157298109
The blood was drawn to the vessel obviously.
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>>157296753
>same move set
Shut your whore mouth. Pugs moveset is ass
>>157297112
If you haven't killed him yet, stay really close to him when he gets to 60% HP. If you hit both copies when he splits he gets double damage. Tagged him with swathe and nearly oneshot him
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>TFW you see tons of people around a bonfire near you
>No summon signs
>Put your own sign down
>Nobody summons you
JUST
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somebody fight me
highwall, pw: dsg
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Why does ornsteins set look like it's made of plastic or something? Could've just given us dragonslayer armors armor instead.
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>>/qa/760901
What the fuck?
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>>157299537
Shit
>>>/qa/760901
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>>157299537

I hope /v/ gets deleted
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>>157287126
Skeleton Lords were fun and the only well made mob boss in DS2.
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>>157299827
You do realise all the manchildren would give their autismbux to keep it alive? The only major board that might die is /b/
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>>157299537
Let it die GOOKMOOT.

JUST FREE US ALL OF THIS AUTISM.
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>>157266001
post pontiff. A blue usually shows up after 20 seconds of me getting invaded
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>>157292796
>I bet it was insanely fun cooping that shit
Kinda yes and no. There are odd stretches between the gameplay sections that you can't coop or which very few people coop because they don't realize to go human until they hit the boss of the area. Dark Souls 1 also is less allowing about moving within an area when you have the soapstone sign active. Also, because there were no downsides to being a Hollow, people often didn't turn human and they missed the summon signs.

DS1 is the better game, but Dark Souls 2 is much more fun to co-op since people actually summon for the areas and not just the bosses.
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>>157300206
use the darksign
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>>157299905
Yep,the vidya boards will always have manchildren around that have more money than common sense.

The boards that might take a hit are /pol/ and /r9k/.
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What's a good five letter name for a grill /dsg/? I'm struggling to come up with one that would fit a MLGS build. It's going to be "Moonstruck _____". Thoughts?
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>>157300337
Also, in ds1 you need to sit at a bonfire to make it count and you can't warp from the start or to every bonfire. While this promotes a better game world and i prefer this direction, it makes coop runs a bit annoying, as you need to be running back and forth to bonfires unless the phantom solos his world.
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>>157300562
Greta?
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>>157300562
Thena
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>>157300562
Eva, redhead, really pale. Armor with lots of cloth physics. Move around like dancing
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>>157300562
Grill.
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Give me my tranquil walk of peace from. Let my faith build be good for one thing.
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>>157300817
*that has no effect in pvp
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Fuck, should I go with the Storm Curved Sword or respec into a faith build and go Swordspear?
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>>157300854
storm curved is the second strongest curved sword because of WA combos and sheer size
it has crappy AR but it's not really that much of a downside when its legit model is larger than some greatswords

swordspear is fun but not that viable
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>>157300938
>second

After what? I don't really keep up with this meta stuff too much...
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>>157301085

Carthus Curved Sword.
It's what the Chaos Blade was to Dark Souls 1 except 10 times worse
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>>157301221
You must be joking...right? Not even FROM could fuck up that badly again...right? right?!?
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>>157301221
You mean quelaag's furysword or was chaos blade fast?
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>>157301252

Curved Sword attacks are amost instant-fast in 3 and the CCS has insane reach and somehow has the AR or a greatsword, on top of that the WA is unparriable in case you are up against someone who wants to parryfish you for the lack of other options to fight you at all
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can someone help me fix this shitty faith build?
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94912
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Holy shit
>Demon Souls
>Stonefang Tunnel = World of STR
>Shrine of Storms = World of DEX
>Tower of Latria = World of INT
>Valley of Defilement = World of FTH
>>
>Check Zweihander on wiki
>There was a patch that buffed it by 5AR
Why even do this at all. Name one situation where this makes a difference.
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>>157301513
I already see that I should heavy infuse the mace, and perhaps replace the Chloranthy Ring with Young Dragon Crest, any other ideas?
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>>157300854
>>157300938

Well, I went with the Storm Curved Sword. I think i'm going to like this thing.

Now, I just need to work out some fashion souls it looks good with...any suggestions, anyone?
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>>157301593
>young
*lingering
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>>157301568
>darkdrift buffed by 9AR
>not 9 base damage, 9AR at 40/40
why even bother
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>>157301548
Yes, and boletaria is the world of vitgouge
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>>157268970
>Medieval swords weren't sharp meme
kys
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>>157302095
>glaive does slash damage
lol

maybe it's because its blade has a curve while straightswords don't
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>>157302237
nvm apparently other halberds do standard damage
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>>157302237
Exactly. Straightswords should do slash anyway, gs and ugs should do standard
Standard is a cutting edge pressed directly to flesh
Slash is a cutting edge pressed to flesh and moved along its axis
To be accurate, different parts of the weapon should deal different damage depending on the move. There is something like this but it's very unnoticeable. Spears deal strike with the shaft
>>
What's the best way to farm chunks in ds3?
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>>157301848
You know Darkdrift is bad when its best move is the ___WA_
>>
What exactly is stopping me from poise-casting Great Heal/Bountiful Sunlight/Soothing Sunlight in duels?
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>>157302734
A lot of late game enemies in Peak and Lothric castle drop them. Especially lothric knights iirc. Just equip and use item discovery boosting stuff too.
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>>157302734
Get the dragonchaser ashes from Archdragon Peak and buy em for 13k each.
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>>157302734

....You buy them?
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>>157302810
When people get wise to your shit and wail on you with WA/R2s more than you can heal for, or just hornet backstab you
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>>157302796
N O T H I N G
O
T
H
I
N
G
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Where's the pvp trailer? I was promised a pvp trailer.
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>>157303150
most likely tomorrow alongside a shitton of spoilers from soulbrandt if they were given dlc weapons
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>>157302810
just make sure you have your back to the wall.
t. trying to make a pure faith caster
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Who want to vicar?

Or are all of the bloodshades sl 50?
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>>157303386
But poise casting revents backstabs
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>>157303683
(prevents?) I don't think so, but I'm willing to test it on pc
>>
Would anyone on PC happen to have a spare Black Knight chestpiece you could spare? I'm so fucking tired of grinding for this shit.
>>
what's a good dex int build that works in pve/pvp? haven't played since release month so i have no fucking idea what the slvl meta is and what's been buffed/nerfed.
>>
>>157303848
I sure hope you don't want to dress as a full BK because in 3 the neck is fucked with it
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>>157303975
uh...might have been

How so?
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>>157303848
High wall. pass: dsg
hurry up
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>>157304082
You can see your beef jerky neck
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>>157303935
hybrids are pretty shit, like they always were though
go for pure 60 int and use crystal sage rapier
>>
>You are made out of ash and I totally did not steal this kind of idea from S&S
What did 'zaki mean by this
>>
>>157304096
DW, it dropped. Thanks anyway anon.
>>
Yes, forgot the p. I can't now, but feel free to, never been backstabed during poise casting before
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>>157303417
I want to Vicar!
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>>157304345
ok, I'll write it down to test it later
>>
>apparently 15 free levels
Is there any good reason not to use prisoner's chain?
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>>157304481
having defenses below 0, specially thrust
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thoughts
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>>157304481
it increases damage taken by a lot

you dont need it anyway
>>
>>157304531
How can I make sure my armor doesn't result in that? I'm using shitty cleric robes for /fa/ so I'm betting it might.
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>>157304481
Softcaps and absorption
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>>157304554
Black serpent often times combos into CBV. Boulder heave is good for roll catching with its aoe.
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>>157304554
remove sacred flame and bursting fire ball, remove that shitty darkmoon ring and use something good instead
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>>157304557
I definitely need it for my level 80 pvp build, otherwise I'll be stuck at 12 endurance. Faith builds are very level-hungry.
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>>157304596
I've been getting serpent into black flame/GCFO and also if they rollspam towards me I usually get a free sacred
>>157304597
no no and no
>>
>>157304563
compensate with leggings and maybe gloves.
it's a bit risky using it past SL50
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>>157304613
I say balance things out instead of having fucking 17 endurance which is not a good trade for increased damage taken
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>>157303975
>>157304082
just make your skin completely black. bk armor is especially offensive with that, as you can't just see the neck, it sticks out while there is darkness around it
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>>157304659
well I'll have somewhat more than that because the ring's also taking away some of the levels I needed to put in VIT

I barely know what I'm doing, this is my first PvP build
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>>157304758
just drop FAI to 40 and then you can invest all that extra into VIG/VIT/whatever else
>>
>>157304645
I use Black serpent/CBV/boulder heave/black flame (or fire surge).

CBV hurts a lot and combos well with serpent. Boulder heave has some range great aoe for roll catching. And boulder heave can inescapably get up roll to catch too.
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>>157304758
>great mace faith build
I'd recommend you to stop but all I can say is go do it and break your face. Use the ring and get crushed. Then come back with what you've learned. Hey at least it's SL 80 so you might have a chance.
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>>157304758
>27 vig in the range of quality build
>great mace with not even 500 AR
>a fucking prisoner's chain
>>
>>157304848
Isn't FAI supposed to have shit scaling below 60?
>>
>>157304878
softcap is 40 hardcap is 60
>>
>>157304870
I heard somewhere that you were supposed to stop at 27 VIG because that's the softcap, how high should I actually go with it? How much END should I have?

>>157304954
Well I wish I'd have known that sooner.
>>
>>157304970
Your end is fine but your health can be anywhere up to 40
personally I'd put more points into STR/VIG and make it so you don't have shit AR without lightning blade
>>
>>157304970
for casters 44 vig is optimal as they usually can't fit life ring onto their builds
end is a dump stat as generally you won't have enough points to invest into it
30 attunement is a must if you're calling yourself a faith caster
don't even try to make caster builds below SL100-120 at the very least
>>
>>157305045
I guess I'd gone into this banking on the idea that lightning infusion would be strong enough to rely upon, that was a bad move because the Great Mace has D scaling in everything regardless.

>>157305067
I'd be fine with going up to the 100 meta, I'd probably be unable to tell the difference.
>>
>>157304878
30fai holds up pretty well until SL40-50.
after that until a high meta it's pretty hard to make a faith build
>>
Did they make Seath harder in the last patch? Back in the early days of Dark Souls I don't remember ever getting fucking one-shotted with 1200hp
>>
>>157305156
Great mace has the requirement of 32 str so it's not the best weapon for a miracle build. Uses a lot of stamina to swing.
>>
>>157305276
Yeah but >muh clerics need to use maces :(
>>
>>157305292
You're going to be a cum rag with a giant electric thing up your ass.
>>
so uh
would greathammers be overpowered if they gave them BB's hammer movesets slowed down by maybe 20%?
>>
>>157305441
fine I'll switch to the Bident
>>
>>157305469
Good luck.
>>
>>157305640
fuck anon I don't wanna be a total metafag but it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of options as far as weapons go for faith casters, any suggestions (short of not being a faith caster)?
>>
>>157305449
>imagine doing this with the greatclub
https://youtu.be/vhgAe9kaXZg?t=1m4s
>>
>>157305067
I don't think he's a caster build, considering he's got lightning blade and a mace
seems more like the lightning spear/stake are secondary

also >don't even try to make caster build below SL100-120
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94937
>>
>>157305449
no, give them kirkhammer moveset without any modifications, it's the only way to make this class viable
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>>157305723
>35 int
>>
>>157305704
One option is raw dragonslayer's axe and try to use the lightning blade miracle and lightning bundles in pvp.
>>
>>157305798
>SL80
drop 5 points from anything else then and put it into int
nice job quoting too
>>
>>157305904
Alright, I think I read another anon saying that was decent in one of these threads so I could give it a shot.
>>
>>157305919
You do understand that int gets almost 40 more spell buff on spells just from 40INT to 60INT and that on 40INT you're going to get fucking raped?
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>>157305067
>don't even try to make caster builds below SL100-120 at the very least
What about this one?
>>
>>157305974
People will definitely throw duel talismans at you but it has alright damage when raw with base stats, and you can use the bundle to help against that. A little out of the way to get the weapon but I believe in you.
>>
>>157306048
>caster with 110 FP
A fucking quality build will have more throwing knives than you farron darts.
>>
>>157306048
Fuck that's supposed to be the normal soulmass, my apologies.
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>Post yfw you use all your power to bring down an assailant and he just chugs back to full health.
>>
>>157306076
Actually I'm pretty sure I picked it up already, drops from Creighton when you fight him a 2nd time right?
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>>157306048
between this and >>157305715 I'd definitely pick theirs
>way more fp
>more than 2 spells
>over 30 int
>almost the same amount of hp without using up a ring slot
the only real difference is yours has a weapon but that's required since your spells aren't gonna do shit
>>
>>157306008
>hurrrr why don't you have max spellbuff at SL80
I sure love having 20 VIG and nothing else
>>
>>157306306
>making casters for SL80 to begin with
hue
>>
>>157306229
>since your spells aren't gonna do shit
But if I throw a hollowed weapon in as well wouldn't m-muh man grub staff have more spell buff than a 35 int court staff?
>>
>>157303034
C A N
A
N
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>>157306112
>>
>>157306176
Oh that's r8
>>
>>157306353
casters can function just fine at lower level so long as they're pure casters

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94943
you can move points around and shit in this one but for the last ring you'd want either life+2 or darkmoon ring depending on if you put more into VIG or ATT
>>
Why the hell can I see my characters neck when using so many different helms?

It's so jarring, especially on armours from older games that didn't have this issue.
>>
Who ps4?
>>
>>157307162
Really should have included a gorget with every helmet that covers the entire head and/or face.
>>
Pontiff ring proc after a certain number of damage instances, right?
>>
>>157306695
Yeah for Pyro maybe but maybe not for pure int or pure fth
>>
>>157307240
yes
they're still pretty useless though
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>>157307365
>having to split between 2 stats is harder than maxing 1
??????
you'll lose like what, 1-2 attunement slots to hit 60 in INT or FAI and still have plenty of health
>>
>>157307481
Pyro uses a lot less stamina so it doesn't need as much end.

Show me some builds if you think you can do it
>>
>>157307240
iirc it procs gradually. after a few hits you get the full effect which is sustained as long as you keep attacking
>>157307481
pyromancer scales up to 40 in each, not 60. and he also doesn't waste the extra fai or int. also, the staering classes heavily favor a pure pyromancer over a pure sorcera
>>
>>157307515
piggybacked off of >>157305715
but there you go

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/94951
>>
>get invaded
>they bow
>kill them with a single backstab
>they give me my daily sodium content in a message after
Reminder to stop being autistic in video games.
>>
>>157307750
why not sage+2 ?
>>
>>157307807
you could go to NG++ if you want but I can't be assed to spend like however many more hours to get a slight improvement
>>
>>157307850
i could drop it for you ;)
>>
>>157307772
>Trying to honor duel in an invasion

Holy shit people are fucking retarded
>>
>>157307772
Too bad backstabs have been removed for all intents and purposes in DaS3 pvp.
>>
>>157307886
I would appreciate it but that's not really necessary
>>
>>157307973

If I'm invading and I get a bow from a lone host I'll be an honorfag for the purposes of saving both our time, but otherwise I'll fucking plunge attack them with a washing pole, chug 7 estus charges and kick them off a cliff
>>
>>157308046
it's fine, i'll just do steam back up, give me your steam so I can add you
>>
>>157308203
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Faggot-Goat/
>>
>>157308203
>>157308336
Why? I don't think he even wants to make that build or play it.
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>>157308416
I've actually got a pure pyro build that I use currently
>>
Going to make a pure strength build, seems like the most viable weapons as far as AR goes are Smough's, Dragonslayers GA and Yhorm's GA. You probably see Yhorm's the most, how viable are Smough's and Dragonslayer's?
>>
New bread
>>
>>157308573
>>157308573
>>157308573
nu bread
>>
>>157308501
Wait, so you aren't going to use this for that sl 80 int build?

I was only giving the ring for that specific character. It's needed for sorcerers. A filthy swamp flinger doesn't need that item or even worthy of it for that matter.
>>
>>157308529
Smoughs blocks the screen
Great club or tootb are much better, but still suck ass
Yhorms cant 2hit combo

Consider offhand yhorms or greataxe with mainhand msh/bn or dark sword
Or gundyrs in another good str weapon
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