/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

waifus

>>157244929
fpwp

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major >>>!!! $ $ $ U P D A T E $ $ $ °°°<<<

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>>157244061

Hm, even in context, I don't see the resemblance. Sorry man

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>tfw I don't know where to start on a feature

fug

>>157245064
>bonder

>>157245016
Give us an agdg demo build pls ;___; Just up to the first boss. Come on senpai

>>157245212
> implying

https://purequestion.itch.io/monolith

>>157245212
Look at this nodev

I'm upgrading from XNA to Monogame (fucking finally, right?), and I've discovered that Monogame runs on .NET 4.5, whereas XNA runs on .NET 4.0. I was using my old copy of Visual Studio 2010 this entire time, but I heard there's a fully featured version of 2015 or something that's free. What's going on with this? Googling it doesn't seem to help very much, so I'd appreciate it if someone let me know the lowdown on it. Sorry for imposing.

>>157245274
God bless you. Is this game going to be 15 bucks? I'll actually buy it on release.

>>157245479
10$, at most. can't in good conscience ask for more for our first game.

>>157245274
Am I the only one having trouble focusing on the cursor and my ship in this game? maybe its something I need to get used to

>>157245591
>don't like the game
>still wanna support you
>can't cus poorfag

Great job tho, even though i don't like that type of games but i can see the effort and hear you put in, sorry i won't be able to support you. 10$ is 3% of my monthly income.

>>157245591
$10 is fair price for game like that. I wouldn't pay $15 for this kind of game, even though the game looks amazing, but then again I would never pay $15 for indie game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChcAjS2H1yA

>>157245067
It's visual studio community.

>>157245816
try switching to alternative cursor in the video menu, it's meatier. (or back to windows cursor if the big cursor is too distracting)

>>157245926
How fully featured it? Is it as stripped bare as Express was? Does it at least support addons like Productivity Power Tools and extensions like Resharper?

>>157246020
It's fully featured. You get everything. It supports anything the paid version does.

>>157246157
Holy shit then, dog. Thanks for the input.

>>157245368
>>157246005

Is it possible for a white guy to make a game about black gangsters and not be called racist?

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>tfw a demo you released got thousands of downloads yet you're still second guessing if you should continue working on the game

>>157246206
Do some research first. That might be the shitposter that just says anything here.

>>157246532
Is it possible for my gf to be real

>>157246532
>is possible to a white guy do to anything whitout being called racist

no

>>157246532
Black gangsters are overdone, do a more interesting gang instead

>>157246020
https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/compare/

>>157246804
Latino gangsters?

>>157246582
Downloads in your dream don't count anon

>>157246157
>>157246206

it doesn't have team features I think, which makes sense since that's really what enterprise wants

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>>157246582
post the link to your demo, and i'll tell you honestly if it's worth continuing or not.

>there are people in this thread that actually believe all possible 2d games were already made

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>>157247950
What ground breaking 2D game have you played lately that wasn't a rehash or clone?

>>157246532
I hate black people :/

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Give halloween jam game ideas

>>157247653
It does. The thing is you cannot use it if your company makes more than 100 thousand dollars a year, so enterprise can't legally use it.

>>157248430
A game where you literally trick or treat. That's it. You're a kid and you trick or treat.

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I built a proof of concept for the multiple simultaneous battle idea here: >>157237915

I think I'm going to run with it. My game will have a lot less entities than this engaged in battle at any one time. Hopefully it doesn't bite me in the ass in six months.

>>157248430
game where you try to scare the shit out of people.

Do any of you explicitly design your games? I find myself just winging development every single time. I'll just make a character, make him move and then just add things that pop into my head, instead of having a defined list of features that I want to implement.

>>157245368
try toning down your ADHD then googling "Visual Studio" again

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>tfw no programmer bro with their own Vive that wants to crank out fun and simple VR games

>>157248581
But some houses have actual murderers you have to run away from - if you don't run in time you die.
Treat or TRICKED.

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>>157243917
thanks for clearing that up

I know I'm a total whodev but here's my shit shovelware mobile endless runner unity game if anyone's in a particularly masochistic mood and uses windows
controls are Enter - re/start, Left arrow - go left, Space - jump, ESC - exit
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1uligmZ0u7ITzNVX2gzVDQ4bEk

>>157248626
I love this

>>157248430
thanksgiving dinner simulator

>>157248337
I don't play new video games and that is beside the point

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HAHAHAHA GOT YOU BY THE BALLS GAME.
IM BETTER THAN YOU
HAHAH FINALY MANAGED TO SEND THE FUCKING COMAND IN BOTH GAMES
IM SO FUCKING HAPPY
FUCK YOU GAME FUCK YOU IN THE ASS

IN DID IT

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What AGDG games have actually made it onto steam? I lurk here, but I'm sorta out of the loop.

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You can just about dodge everything now

This may make the game way too easy

>>157248797
>thanksgiving
>halloween

>thanksgiving dinner simulator
>game
Damn gogem, will you ever stop failing?

>>157246612
That's true, but I'm finding bits and pieces lying around that allude to that, but never a real answer.

>>157247130
I looked at that before even asking, and perhaps you should too, and that didn't have anything I asked about listed.

>>157247653
That makes sense.

>>157248713
Do you think that the Visual Studio website is good at displaying what features it has or something? It skims over, or outright doesn't mention, everything I was interested in. Even if you expand all the tabs.

>>157247302
slav gang

>>157248836
>He did it
Told ya you'd get it sooner or later lad. Good stuff.

Love when people get so excited that their spelling starts to fall apart.

>>157248960
Risk of rain, lethal league, that car neon game and the realy cool ship survival game that i dont remember the name

>>157248960
A couple. Risk of Rain and Deadbolt are the ones that everyone talks about but I think hopoo stopped posting here. There's also catmouth island, some sand game, and I'm sure I missed a bunch. Another anon posted his game's steam link last week but that was the first I saw of that game.

>>157249018
this idiot will never see it coming

Why do people like Halloween. Shit holiday. Thanksgiving and Christmas are better. Didn't even care for it as a kid.

>>157249372
>Mostly traditional holiday vs shit from a country noone cares about and a fake religion's holiday
LOL

>>157249580
>Mostly traditional holiday
????????

>>157249372
I don't care for it, but as a kid it meant free candy/dress up as my favorite character.

>>157249372
Americans man, nobody actualy cares about haloween in the civilized world

>>157248430
Online multiplayer game one player plays as the spook and the others play as children, they can talk using voice chat and have to collect candy from houses. You have to use your spooky powers to scare the players for real, the game measures their heartbeats to detect if they got spooked. If you spook them enough you win. If the players collect all the candy they win.

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>>157249632

>>157249372
Are you kidding? Halloween is better. It's has the best aesthetics of all holidays.

>>157249771
>Observed by Western Christians
Interesting. My parents took me to a church Harvest Party that was specifically NOT Halloween on Halloween day. Because Halloween was Satan's holiday.

>>157249721
you stole my idea you cheeky little cunt. >>157248697

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Working on my first Mertoidvania game. Dark descent into evil caverns and caves, tight spaces and collapsing tunnels. Main character is attached to an ancient spectral fish who knows his way through and will help you, but is mostly an asshole. He will give you cryptic hints and advice. He also glows so you can see certain things.
Would it be better to randomly generate the level or make it myself?

>>157248960
This miht be a good start:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgamedevcrew#curation
But many games are not listed, so it's kinda out dated.
Another list:
http://www.homph.com/steam/

>>157250043
You gave your idea you dummy

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>Want to have one specific feature from tutorial
>80% of code becomes tutorial code because I don't know of any other methods of employing rebindable keys

>>157250343
In what?

>>157250406
SFML.

>>157250447
Can't help you then, buddy. Sorry.

>>157248062
So is this funny like new game or is moeshit?

How difficult is it to make a game like Dark Souls or Dragon's Dogma with an engine like Unity or Ue4? Is 90% of the work modeling?

>>157248981
Best give me the name nigga

(Add stamina bar)

I wanna try and compose music for videogame, so I'm taking a bit of time to write a bunch of pieces, have some sort of portfolio to show, so to speak.

Thing is... I kinda don't really know what the heck to make. I mean, I could just make random music here and there, but like - as game developpers, if you were looking for a composer, what are the types of pieces you would be more interested in knowing that they are capable of composing?

>>157250816
Too difficult for you.

>>157250816
>How difficult
Around 68 difficulty units

>Is 90% of the work modeling?
No

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>>157250816
> Dark Souls or Dragon's Dogma

So I've been looking around for a few hours about monogame features, and looking in its repo posts and all that, since I found that they included a change to make getting inputted text easier compared to XNA. This is all well and good, but is there a listing of such added features somewhere? I'm switching from XNA to monogame, and I'm having trouble finding such information. Most of their updates seem to be related to adding support for new systems to port to, and fixing bugs.

>>157250816
If you have to ask you're probably out of your league already.

But you're right that a good 90% of your time will be spent on actual content. (Sound, music & art)

>>157250751
I don't watch anime often but it looks like shit to me.

>>157250816
ah
reminds me of when i was a kid i wanted to make Sonic Adventure 2 without knowing shit about programming

i'll be damned if i didnt try
good times.

>>157250816
Not at all. That's why those game were made by only one guy with no experience on programming and not by studios with a lot of employees and big budgets.

>>157250878
Don't be one of those people who only have bleep bloop music, make sure you have tracks that fit different types of games (although having a specialisation is fine, don't try to show your skills with music you don't want to make)

>>157248960
There was that neon game, I'm pretty sure that made it onto steam, can't remember its name.

should I ask youtubers to voice act in my game?

>>157248960
God is a cube made it too iirc.

>>157251698
If you want it to end in extortion and negative reviews when you don't pay them 400 times what you would pay anyone else.

>>157251860
why would it end in extortion? has this happened?

>>157246582
hahahaha

>>157252282
Some jewtube let's players will ask you for money to give your game a good review. And if you refuse they will give you a bad review to fuck with you. Is content for them either way so they have nothing to lose, but you do.

>>157252282
Youtubers extorting infie devs is one of the current memes here. You're replying to a shitposter. Also, featuring youtubers in your game is a retarded idea.

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i'm just gonna pretend this is my game, i'm making rock of ages 2

http://steamcommunity.com/games/434460/announcements/detail/577976368739174679

>>157251698
do you really need voice acting.

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>>157250751
>new game
>not moeshit

>>157252557
yes

>>157252541
>stealing other peoples progress

This is actually worse than nodevs and anime posters.

So kys

>>157250816
Well, at least it's not an MMO. So it's just gonne take like 15 years if you are a 1MA.

>>157252802
nah just sharing m8

holy shit senpai it just came to me

i found the joystick of VR
it's over
we're done
i did it
VR IS SAVED

>>157250816
it's way too hard

even making sprites of monsters that only have like 6 frames of animation total, for their movement and attack animations is SO MUCH WORK AAAAGH I'VE BEEN MAKING MY GAME FOR 3 YEARS

Those AAA games are made by hundreds of people, so it's hundreds more times work than you can do yourself. All you can do is aim for a "demake" of sorts, or reduce scale in other ways.

>>157252616
gas weebs

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>>157253278
>all the anime agdg games are gone

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>>157250816
Pic related was made by a man and his wife over 3 years.

You could make it if you're dedicated!

>>157253416
2D is ez mode though

>>157253416
uh thats nothing compared to dank souls or dragons dogma.

>>157253559
Yeah but if you're willing to work hard and get a few more people working on the project then you could do a 3d game.

>>157253416
that guy's made a few commercial releases, it's his third game or something. he's actually pretty experienced unlike anyone here.

>>157253596
exactly

>>157253596
>literally 2d dark souls
>nothing compared to dark souls

okay

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>>157253386
>tfw haruhi gun girl ded

>>157253986
they updated their tumblr a month ago so im guessing they arent dead yet.

>>157253682
shit did i say third game? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ska_Studios

i meant NINTH game

that's more experience than every anon here put together

>>157254235
gogem?

>>157254235
His games look pretty samey

>>157254235
I started 20 different projects..

my game is cute
CUTE

>>157253386
I'm still around. Not that I'm here all that much. Please don't bully.

>>157254490
That's what I told it too after cumming inside for the fourth time that night.

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>>157254235
>James Silva began making games as a hobby in 2001, starting with Zombie Smashers X, a River City Ransom style beat-em'-up game, but the title was financially unsuccessful, selling fewer than 100 units. James went on to develop more similarly unsuccessful titles, including Blood Zero, Zombie Smashers X2, and Survival Crisis Z, but didn't achieve viable commercial success until 8 years later, with 2009's The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai.

Could you do it AGDG?

Fail all your games for 8 years but keep on trucking?

>>157254490
post a screenshot.
the only cute game i've seen posted recently was that cube game.

I need someone to draw a dev being turned into a game.
Like inanimate transformation of him being turned into a file or a disc.

>>157254661
>Fail all your games for 8 years but keep on trucking

What's worse

releasing finished games and having them all fail

or

spending 6+ months on each game and scraping them for something else

>>157254737
>>>/d/

>>157254831
/d/ is too tame for the most part.

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>>157254896
so you turn to /agdg/..?

>>157255002
No I was just saying in general /d/ is pretty tame.

>>157254661
His games all have that same style to them. Why did he never think to try a new genre or something at least?

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>>157254816
>spending 6+ months on each game and scraping them for something else

>>157254661
I've released 1 game to distribution channels, and it sold under 100 copies if you don't count a bundle it was in.

I have made shitty mobile HTML5 games and they "sold" to businesses.

I'm working on my second to sell through distribution channels. I'll continue until I'm poor and dead or rich and dead.

I'm trying to think of a cool mini game for mobile I can rate performance on a F-S+ scale.
What do you guys think?

>>157255062
maybe he liked what he did

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>>157254661
>Zombie Smashers X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbGqOB2vaU

Yeah no. I would not buy it either.

>>157246532
Why do you think that would get you called racist? You're not depicting every black person to be a gangster are you? Just think of it how every white person doesn't want to be depicted as only white trash.

>>157254672
I don't think my game would appreciate that...

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>>157255590
>says game is cute
>not cute but CUTE
>twice
>doesnt want to post said CUTE game

???

>>157250878
I want to see more acoustic (or even just actually recorded) music in video games. I'm tired of bleep bloops and of fruity-loops soundfronts.

>>157255559
But it has everything AGDG says is enough for a game to sell.

Lots of particle effects.
Camera shake.
Juice.

>>157255814
I want to, but my game would get mad at me for posting her on 4chan :(

Wow, look at this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5El-yYNUwU

Made by one man

Explain this shit

>>157256168
The art is complete ass.

>>157256253
He bought assets. He didn't make all of that by himself.

>>157256253
It's a collection of unreal store assets. (as admitted by the developer)

It's still pretty impressive but I don't think that realistically reflects the work of "one man." More like one guy and a credit card.

>>157256253
He's asian.

>>157256168
> lots of particle effects
free tip, never use the drag'n'drop gradient ellipse tool for particles. just stay away from drawing primitives unless you have a good reason.

> camera shake
barely noticeable. all over the place(meaty sounding punches that send zombies flying have no camera shake, zombies hitting the floor does)

> juice
if it had juice, the character wouldnt slide along the ground on the full meter, everyone would animate way faster, the status bars would have SOME animation and there would be way more effects around.

this thing is fucking lifeless.

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where can I read about level design?

is this the hardest part of gamedev?

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Here's a good video on a camera system for a game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAKwZt3aXQM

I'm thinking of making a VN. Is Renpy actually good, or just the Visual Novel version of "Make my own website?"

Speaking of Visual Novels, is the programming component to them particularly difficult?

What I have in mind is like a very tight CYOA story, where there will be choices but the choices will mostly just result in BAD/Pre-Mature endings and one "True" end, with like one or two moments tops during the story where a choice will lead to different scenes that eventually merge back into the main story branch.

Also, would it be hard to, say force the text to a crawl/speed the text up for a few scenes?

I don't imagine so, but would it be difficult to have some moments where the auto-scrolling text won't move unless you're in the game's application window?

>>157256253
we memed this like two months ago, get with the times grandpa

>>157256749
sequel when

>>157256598
play games and look at the design

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so I'm looking for some advice on perspective involving the bed.
I know it currently doens't quite fit but but can't tell why. I want it to be the centre piece so i'm not looking to make it totally slope left like I have the other two pieces.
Below it I have drawn a rough sketch of what I'm aiming for in terms of perspective.
I think maybe the bed needs to be shorter or longer but I'm not sure.

>>157256909
>just result in BAD/Pre-Mature endings and one "True" end
yawn

let me know the title so i can avoid it.

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Idea guys, now's your time to shine. Post ideas for halloween jam.

>>157256598
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MartinNerurkar/20090828/85329/Level_Design_is_Game_Design.php

gamasutra has a lot of great articles, just search their site for level design

>>157256592
Yeah anon you shit on that fifteen year old one-man indie game, show everyone what a big boy you are.

>>157257591
Crow rancher. You play as a cute witch girl that keeps a flock of crows.

>>157257591
you're a witch with a vibrating broom so you fuck it

>>157257591
it's like mario bros except youre a pumpkin

>>157257591
>you're a spoopy little girl under bedsheet
>you need to collect candy becuase candy
>you need to avoid bullies stealing candy, greedy kids draining houses dry and later that asshole who gives toothbrushes
also some real monsts and stuff

>>157248430
>>157257591
you go door to door asking for ideas

>>157257591
your broom is actually a giant dick so you fuck it

>>157258046
goge your ideas suck
your games suck
your taste in anime sucks for the most part
what are you even doing here

>>157256253
Reading those comments leads me to believe this will be the next NMS

>>157258182
you convinced me

goodbye forever

>>157258182
making you angry

>>157257591
you're a witch but you ride people instead of brooms

>>157258268
you suck at that too

>>157244849
Too sick to dev I tried some demo day games.

I tried sanix super edgehog adventure 2 dx turbo or some shit. Surprisingly fun even without the joke attitude it has. Maybe also because I didn't expect much. I liked how it felt like that bonus green hill stage from sonic adventure 2. Epic end boss music too.
I collected 1 emeroowd. Were there more?


I also tried Bokube. I'm not sure how I feel about it. It looks super fun, but I don't think it's fun to play, mostly because of the basic type of gameplay. I stopped during the 2nd level because I don't have the patience to redo the entire level because I put a block in a position where it can't get out. The controls also felt a bit irresponsive at times. In the 2nd level you had to jump over those enemies, and I noticed they were in sync with the music. Eventually they stopped being in sync so you might want to take a look at that if that was your intention.
I liked the starting "tutorial" level. It had the words written on the level, but the first one said to jump in the block, and unknowingly that this would not allow me to read the rest of the instructions I jumped in. I was left hanging.

I may seem harsh but I have the best of intentions and hope your game turns out great. I can see a lot of work has gone into it already.

>>157258321
idk man i cant even post here without you changing the conversation to how much you hate me
you seem awfully triggered

>>157258463
someone's mad and it's not me

>shitty idea guy coming through
>Thread the Needle
>play as a bullet in every increasing difficulty of sniper shots
>numerous environmental effects to gain bonus points and meter to keep yourself flying
>silly things to hit and break on the way
>you can steer and gain upgrades to do "hair pin turns" and "nudge" the bullet
>sometimes have to fire multiple bullets and control more than one at once, toggling between them
How horrible of an idea is this?

>>157250863
Please no. The stamina bar, however impactful on darksouls mostly limits experimentation and freedom in playstyles. It's time games get more technical. We are all getting older and tic tac toe style gameplay won't cut it anymore.

>>157258830
I've seen this game before

>>157258924
Oh sweet, link it I want to play it.

>>157258830
How's the bullet controlled? Mouse? Keyboard? Is it fluid or is it like tron?

>>157258830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKFmUZHvKrI
like this?

>>157257591
you're a witch and your hat is also a dildo which you fuck
sometimes you also do dp with a broom in your ass

>>157258830
So Sniper Elite: Silly Edition?

>>157257591
all your family is coming over for thanksgiving dinner and you need to cook everything while also making sure none of the arguments turn violent and someone in you family is a serial killer but you're not sure who. can you catch the killer and evenly cook the turkey in.... ("Nightmare Before Christmas" style crossover title here.)

>>157258965
I don't remember, it was a video on youtube but I don't know who/why.

>>157258843
If you play Dark Souls expecting DMC then the issue lies within.

>>157259112
Does Sniper Elite let you influence the trajectory of a bullet after it's been fired? Cause if not then the similarity is so superficial as to be irrelevant.

>>157257591
it's a stealthgame where you enter peoples homes to steal their children which you eat
sometimes you also steal dildos to fuck them but you already have a broom and a hat which are also dildos so you don't do it a lot

>>157259291
Yes?

>>157259074
>>157258830
or like this
http://store.steampowered.com/app/364130/

>>157259407
>it's a stealthgame where you enter peoples homes to steal their children which you eat
This sounds pretty cool. I want to be The Sandman.

>>157259160
>>157258965
Ah I remember!

It was a game where you were across the street from an apartment building full of couples, and you had to shoot condoms onto their penis before sex.

You avoid obstacles and aim for their crotch

>>157259160
Are you thinking of the pool shot game that is basically identical in concept?

>>157259407
can you rape then before eating then for max bonus?

>>157259407
>it's a stealthgame where you enter peoples homes to steal their candy which you eat
>sometimes you also steal their costumes to fuck with them but you already have a broom and a hat which are more than enough so you don't do it a lot

Fixed it, you're welcome.

>>157257754
It's impressive for what it is, but it should surprise nobody that it wasn't even slightly succesful as an actual product.

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who made this?
christ just kill me instantly

>>157259074
Much more like this than>>157259546

>>157259112
Basically

>>157258987
Mouse would be the idea.

Anyone here try to make a Phoenix Wright knockoff? If so, what pratfalls did you fall into?

>>157248836
Is this Team Buddies

https://youtu.be/ZBugFxhJlyo?t=2m22s

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>>157259868
go ahead then anon
the saints row game was canceled

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>>157259901
I fell into several pitfalls, luckily I had a stepladder with me.

>>157259808
Didn't see anyone acting surprised in the reply chain but I'm on mobile and won't be fucked to verify that.

>>157259901
Writing and making interesting cases are the pratfalls of that type of game. Most people don't have the experience to pull off either.

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Progress:only 3 things left to finish. finish audio track, put final screens into the game and adjust difficulty/polish timings.I don't really like the font so I also might redo it
Could you help me w difficulty?


I am afraid it is way too hard. Even though it is not supposed to be easy.
Here is the link. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B18iT5biNgtqV3VGeHZxR3FORmM/view?usp=sharing

If timings are way too off, press R, it will most likely reastart and most likely work as intended

>>157259901
googem tried.

>>157260043
Pratfalls, you dumb faggot.

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>>157257416

>>157259161
That game isn't dark souls though, so I see no reason it would need a stamina bar. If you play video games expecting only simple things like dark souls then the issue lies in your lack of intelligence or effort.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaS_x2W3ogs
What did they mean by this?

>>157260404
the next version of gamemaker is going to kill you in your sleep

>>157257591
you're a hot af german witch and you use your broom to heal people in mexico

>>157260404
Time to shell out for an upgrade, gamegoy

>>157259990
>Team Buddies
holy shit i totaly stealing their art style

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>>157260605
>tfw I've bought ever version of game maker, have the master edition, and I'll get the master version of this too but haven't completed a game in almost 10 years

>>157260389
>that game isn't dark souls
lol, you're right
It's even less complex.

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>>157248726
well, it is ok. get something to collect into the game maybe? sometimes it generates platforms so that I can't see where am I jumping to. They are too far away.
Also make starting point on flat long bar maybe? I died a few times right away before got how game works.
Also those trails that show you where blocks will fall go through platforms when blocks don't. so it sometimes shows you that trail even though block is not going to fly there(it collapses on the platform above)
Other than that can't really point out anything else.

>take a break from devving to play some games
>resume devving
>framerate tanked, can't get above 60 whereas before it was running at almost 300
>restarting didn't fix it
>doesn't affect any other games
What the fuck

>>157259161
>if you play a shitty game expecting a good game the problem is you

but how he's gonna know?

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Made a bunny outfit for the professor.

>>157260060
>Writing and making interesting cases are the pratfalls of that type of game. Most people don't have the experience to pull off either.

Shit nigga, I can write. Loads and loads of finished but unpublished manuscripts sitting in my room.

Can't promise mind blowing cases, but I've read enough Agatha Christie and Doyle to at least be semi-competent at locked room mysteries. It's programming, drawing, and composing music that I -can't- do.

>>157248981
play with i frames and recovery frames to prevent abuse and it should be fine.
momodora did rolls w/o stamina and is ok.(many other games did it too but it is the most recent i can remember and looks like yours. sort of)

>>157257591
Dicknipple: The velocity.

In dicknipple, you either play as a dude with a huge monster dong, or a woman with gHaStLy titties. In response to their walking speed, the elasticity of their "attributes" increases, allowing them to be swung around at high speeds. Depending on how this is used their mass will pull you over large distances or smash enemies. But be careful! If you pull too hard, you might rip the skin!

You must carefully navigate the worlds of the Delicious Flat Continent and defeat the evil halloween dressed SJWs who are chopping off the dicks of unsuspecting gamedevs.


Meh. i tried.

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>>157261153
but why?

>>157261000
Playing Dark Souls and expecting DMC is the same tier of stupidity as the people who played Brigador expecting Neuro Voider.

Here's one that'll blow your underdeveloped little noggin: DMC is a good game because the depth of its mechanics is fettered by deliberately placed limitations.

>>157260836
And you want to make it even more limiting? What game are you making?

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>>157261519
To complement this.

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>>157261289
>locked room mysteries

>>157261621
>DMC is a good game because the depth of its mechanics is fettered by deliberately placed limitations.
This. It's much more sophisticated than implementing a stamina bar and calling it a day. It gives the dev control over how the game should, and should not be played, and it's even possible to motivate players to try certain things by clever use of recovery times and cancels. They are the brushtechniques of gameplay design.

>>157261682
Common mystery elements. Knox Rules. You know, that shit.

Answers which aren't clear at first, but don't feel like bullshit when revealed.

>>157262002
what part of my post made you think i didnt know what you were referring to? you can see images right?

>>157261641
Having a delay between attacks is a limitation. Limiting the number of times a player can be hit is a limitation. Challenge is the implementation of limitation. Are you sincerely trying to argue that any limitation on the player is bad, or just a stamina bar because you associate it with Dark Souls and that triggers you?

>>157261621
my point is
dude has a sword and fight demons in DMC, dude has a sword and fight zombies looking demons in souls

if some one that doesnt know how much dark souls sucks goes blind to play the game

is his fault to be shocked if the game is so diferent?


>underdeveloped little noggin:

hey hey lets not go to insults there yet
i did not even bring the "shockwaves" to the table yet

>>157262002
>>157261289
>>157259901
Gonna self-shill a bit here. If anyone is looking for a writer for a project, then hit me up at [email protected](temp email that I'll refresh for the next few hours)

Can't promise you'll like my concepts or prose, but I can promise output. I write like a demon and meet deadlines. I'm also not asking to be paid - what I want to see is someone who is serious about making something good, who seems at least somewhat capable of doing it.

>>157261153
>not wearing a black bikini with realy hairy legs, keeping his shoes on


you had one job anon

>>157261682
>>157262213
>>157259149
>>157258463
Post progress

>>157262213
Didn't expand the image. I just saw a confused looking hand, not the subtitles beneath it.

At any rate, I don't think good mysteries have to be ground breaking, just competent.

>>157262627
>I don't think good mysteries have to be ground breaking, just competent.
i take issue with non-locked room mysteries somehow being "ground breaking" they're not, they're just not trash.
and you said in your previous post you're only "semi-competent" so...

>>157262759
>>157262604

>>157262239
>Limiting the number of times a player can be hit is a limitation. Challenge is the implementation of limitation. Are you sincerely trying to argue that any limitation on the player is bad, or just a stamina bar because you associate it with Dark Souls and that triggers you?
I can take a picture of all souls games behind me with timestamp and all that shit. Dark souls is fun, but it's not an amazing example for future endeavors control mechanics wise.

>triggers
You seem triggered because you almost assumed I was shitting on all limitations.

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Some more small progress on my quiz game, still single player and thus not really fun but
>answer order is randomized
>turns and score get updated
>countdown to answer working
>some more code stuff I forgot
Now I have to sit down and think how to manage player turns etc but it shouldn't be too hard.

Also go ahead and steal this I don't care.

Any good books on Unreal? Cause the internet is mostly filled with blueprint crap and using those is how I ended up having nightmares about robotic spaghetti for a solid month.

>>157262759
Well, I guess to put things another way, do you feel like any Phoenix Wright cases are really ground breaking as mysteries go?

They all seem perfectly grounded in usual Locked Room cliches - would you like to elaborate a bit and use a Phoenix Wright case as an example of exceeding beyond standard mystery fare?

>>157262353
>my point is
>you need to be considerate of the consumer who has zero understanding of genre distinctions and who is so gaming illiterate that he can't detect the obviously varied design approaches between two games by watching at least five seconds of the core gameplay of both
Oh so your point is you're a fucking retard. Sorry, I understand now.

>>157256598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygp4-kmjpzI

>>157263141
ive only played the first phoenix wright and i was severely disappointed that it was just another garbage detective themed adventure game when i was promised a court room lawyer em up.

>>157256598
Just make some square rooms and fill them with tons of shit.

>>157256598

Designing levels, not just procedurally generating them.

>>157263368
Oh ok man. Sorry, I thought you were interested in making a Phoenix Wright like detective themed game.

Cause that's sort of what I wanna make. Cliches and corniness don't bother me.

Is JRPG-like turn based combat acceptable in 2016?

>>157260275
lrn 2 read nigga

>>157263368
What games do you even like goog?

>>157262950
>Dark souls is fun, but it's not an amazing example for future endeavors control mechanics wise.
Nobody has made any claim resembling what you're denying here, so I guess we both get to play the "you're putting words in my mouth" game. Your only argument for why a stamina meter is bad is because it's a limitation on the player (specifically using the nebulous term "explorarion"). Now you admit that limitation isn't inherently bad, so you've got no argument to stand on except "stamina meters were in dark souls and not in DMC ergo they are bad".

>>157263665
Unless you do something really interesting and are sure it won't feel slow and like a chore to play, I suggest you stay away from it.

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Finally managed to sort of understand how Unity's UI event system works and got drag&drop on a grid working.
How does this interface/artstyle look for a programming game?
I don't need anything fancy, but I'd like it to look at least a little appealing.

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Trying to work out procedural generation level terrain. Is 23,328 triangles too much for a chunk of terrain?

I'm using LOD.

But, I'm confused on polycount. Isn't one character in a game 23k triangles? So I should be able to use 9 chunks at highest lod around the player. I'm guessing since it would be like drawing 9 23k characters to the screen.

>>157263876
And you said my mom had 2 dicks but that's not true either. later noob

>>157263571
well im making a detective game but its an actual detective game from the ground up not an adventure game reskin.

the problem with locked room mysteries btw is A) the locked room itself is rarely believable and even in the most believable scenarios an actual prison is the most believable and ive only seen it done a few times for some reason is asking for an epic amount of suspension of disbelief at which point it becomes exactly like an adventure game for a reader/viewer/player where they just look at the things that were mentioned early on and think of the wackiest way to piece together they can because that's what the author would do. and B) they're fucking always 99.999% of the time a murder mystery. boring as shit.

>>157263347
Why not the one with Romero? Or were you recommending the entire playlist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV6HlBa88js

>>157264071
gg ez

Hiring a programmer to make a game - feasible, or unlikely?

I can write, friend of mine can draw. Two of us can invest some dosh to pay for a programmar.

Problem is, since we both know little to nothing about programming, we can't communicate effectively with this hypothetical contractee, or know what development benchmarks are reasonable and which ones are absolute fantasy.

>>157264278
>>157262604

>>157263985
It's fine, you could even go up to 65k per chunk, that's Unity's limit per one mesh.
Most of the cost in procedural geometry comes from updating them constantly or generating colliders for them, making and displaying a bunch of tris is pretty cheap

>>157264317
Yeah I meant the one with Romero. I just fucked up.

Nobody should listen to that other fucktard.

>>157263981
looks serviceable, what's the game about?

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>tfw super productive late at night but can't get anything done during the day

>>157263041
BORING
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>>157264485
Careful with that. People might assume skyrim's animator is a good guy because he worked on a game with good sales.

>>157263121
Why? What happened?

>>157264738
I sure hope you're not trying to imply Romero can't into level design.

>>157264682
iktf

I only really start working at around midnight. Hammer out shitloads of progress over 3 or so hours and then crash.

>>157264682
>not sleeping during the day and deving all night

>>157264278
Well, you're going for a realistic tone. Phoenix Wright games are just about the farthest thing from realistic. You don't play for the mystery so much as the shocking(and nonsensical) twists, reveals, breakdowns, and of course, the rewarding music.

It's designed to make dumb people feel smart and cool - not to push the boundaries or raise the bar on fiction.

>>157264883
I wasn't. I am not knowledgable enough about his work to critisize anything about it. However, I'm not sure why doom level design is regarded as a good example, besides maybe a lot of variety in room designs? I haven't played it much but that's the only thing that stands out to me.

>>157263041
Nice colors and design.

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>>157264510
Trying to design viable creatures by wiring up a bunch of basic behaviour blocks and organs.
Like multiplayer Spore creature stage for autists, basically.

>>157265198
Doom's level design is so good that you don't realise it's good. I know that sounds odd, but think about the shit you learned in Doom that you don't remember actually being explicitly taught. That's good design.

>>157265198
It's hard to qualify what actually makes good level design but Doom is generally regarded as being fun to play and I think that's enough evidence to support it having good level design.

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>want to post progress but a swore an oath to myself not to post any anywhere until I had something playable

>>157253386
I'm still here. I'm taking a break to sharpen my skills before going further

>>157265284
So guiding the player through a maze in a way that he doesn't realize and makes him feel like a master maze navigator? Or are we actually talking condition of how to move so later levels can test that conditioning?

>>157265027
this is why i'll never be a success. im perfectly fine letting dumb people feel dumb.

>>157265484
Sounds like you want to fail.

Marketing begins when dev does.

>>157257756
I like this idea

>>157248768
I love you anon

>>157261153
testosterone, son

>>157265664
How about just telling them they're retarded? "You should have been able to solve this. Don't you dare play my game again until you're older than 12"

>>157261153
John Kricfalusi?

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>>157248720
Sorry bro. Understand your motivation to just have fun doing simple shit, but I can't help you.

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>>157265819
>telling people theyre dumb in such a blunt boring dumb way
hmmmm....

>>157265639
Mario 1-1 always comes to mind when I think of good level design. First thing the player sees is a glowing question mark block, so naturally the player tries to hit it. You just learned how to jump. Now there's an enemy coming at you, you know now that you can jump over him. So you jump, except there's bricks above you. You hit the bricks and fall down on top of the enemy. Enemy dies. You just leanred that jumping on enemies kills them. No words said. No button brompts. Nothing. And yet you learned how to play the game.

That kinda thing makes good design.

>>157266015
That's your entire schtick.

>>157266053
>they keep repeating this bullshit
at what point does it teach you that you need to hold A to run?

>>157236458
>>157236692
>MFW ITS NOT AVAILABLE IN FINLAND
the dude is finnish if someone didnt know

>>157265664
The reason you'll never be a success is because your games are shit.

>>157266250
It doesn't. Because B is used to run.

>>157266492
whatever theres only 2 fucking buttons and thats the one you need to learn because jump is obvious as soon as you click it.
Miyamoto/Nintendo's story about 1-1 being the perfect tutorial through level design is completely revisionist drivel. like anyone wouldve actually run away from the mushroom during the first encounter .

>>157266775
>who would learn to avoid the brown evil mushroom only to be afraid of a new, faster, orange mushroom
People who had never played a video game before?

>>157261153
>>157261664
Your art screams sjw feminist bullshit propaganda

>>157266492
this kills the googem

>>157266775
It's not though. It teaches you to jump, it teaches you how to kill enemies, it teaches you about powerups, it teaches you how to jump higher, it teaches you about secrets when you fuck up one of the jumps and it does all of this without a single word, in the space of a single level.

>>157265969
Funny thing is, the Holo-professor was a Fansworth/Robotnik kind of thing. But the reaction most people have is John K. It's cool really, but it was completely unintentional.

HERE'S THE GAME PLAN LADS, AND IT'S PRESENTED WITHOUT A HINT OF IRONY

I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO FUCKING DO THIS

I AM MAKING A DEMO OF A GAME THAT'S ACTUALLY A PILOT

I AM GONNA DROP TONS OF CAPITAL TO MAKE THIS PILOT, SNEAKILY TITLED A PROLOGUE, GORGEOUS. GORGEOUS ART, FANTASTIC MUSIC, AND ONLY SORT OF OK WRITING SINCE I'LL DO THAT BIT MYSELF

IN THIS DEMO, WHICH WILL BE SUPER FUCKING SHORT, THE CHOICES WILL MATTER. LIKE IN A MILLION WAYS. AN ABSURD AMOUNT OF PERMUTATIONS. THE GAME EVERY TELLTALE FAN DREAMED OF.

THEN, IF THERE IS ANY INTEREST IN MY GORGEOUS GAME, WITH GORGEOUS ART, WITH CHOICES THAT ACTUALLY MATTER

I WILL FILM MYSELF DOING REGULAR DEBUG SHIT AND POST THE VIDEOS ON REDDIT. THIS WILL GIVE THOSE MOUTH BREATHERS THE VICARIOUS FANTASY OF BEING A GAME DEVELOPER, EXCEPT WITHOUT THAT NASTY "HARD WORK" PART

THEN IF THERE IS LEGITIMATE VIRAL INTEREST IN MY GAME

I WILL START A KICKSTARTER. OR PATREON, OR FUCK IT, INDIEGOGO. WHATEVER GETS ME THE MOST SHEKELS. NO PHYSICAL REWARD TIER. I WON'T FALL FOR THE SHIPPING MEME.

AND THEN, FINALLY

I will work on the game, ultimately delivering a decent product with great art and music, but with nowhere near the amount of choice and innovation I promised with the pilot

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Made an epic story telling sequence in UE4.

>>157267146
>the text isn't perfectly centered
I'm being triggered right now.

>>157266053
>First thing the player sees is a glowing question mark block, so naturally the player tries to hit it. You just learned how to jump. Now there's an enemy coming at you, you know now that you can jump over him
I like this. I always felt that games that throw you in combat and immediately expect you to do some shit without having had a calm moment to experiment with that feature are doing it wrong. In my game I expected to solve this problem by giving the player some free time to experiment with controls without enemies, but an incentive, similar to that ? block to try a mechanic seems like a very good idea indeed.

>>157267146
>happend

At least don't be an illiterate retard, come on what the fuck

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>>157267123
Don't be this guy

>>157266964
yeah i was gonna say that too, if theyre such genius designers why did they design an enemy and a powerup to look so similar?

>>157267079
SMB/Duck Hunt was the first videogame i owned at 7yo... it doesnt teach you any of that shit, you learn it by playing the game and dying and starting over again because the original cart had no saves.
mario was a huge success because it was the first well made platformer and came with every NES, they didnt need to retroactively explain the success as being a work of genius, that's just the typical successors revising history to praise themselves.

>>157267398
>you learn it by playing the game
It's almost like that's exactly what I said. I mean, good job for admitting when you're wrong, but I don't know what you expected to get out of this.

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>>157267390
It's like looking into my own future.

>>157263041
It's nice

>>157267398
It's almost like its the mushroom kingdom or something.

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>>157267267
>>157267326

Sorry, fixed it now.

>>157267467
except that's bullshit, you said
>in the space of a single level.
when it doesnt actually teach through doing most of anything.... theres no way to force a player to hold the buttons to learn how to run or jump higher or hold onto dead enemies... etc etc
that's what the manual/friends/playing until you happen upon it was for.

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>>157267734

>>157267734
every single brick in the mushroom kingdom is a toadstool cursed by bowser
i learned that just by playing 1-1!

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>>157267390
I'll be the next Sean Murray, I swear it.

>>157267774
you're killing me anon, I'm dying a slow painful death.

>>157267779
There are 3 consecutive pipes in 1-1 that grow in size. If you tap A, you clear the first one, if you tap A, you don't clear the second. So you try holding A. Tada! You just got taught how to jump higher.

I didn't say the game teaches you everything in 1-1, but it sure as fuck teaches you a lot.

Do stop embarrassing yourself.

>>157267734
this kills the googem

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Alright, I think I'll un-break the car pathing (disabled it when I changed the town-generation algorithm when i switched to the new graphics) and then work on police AI, I guess. I'll probably dabble a bit in town generation too (at least fixing it the car pathing and street lights..., plus maybe getting the road-tracking system implemented, so you can see which road things are on in the map with names).

>>157229527
>hey do u want an artist ?
>I always like ur game but cannot help but imagine what it would look like with fancy looking lolis.
>I'm one ,alltho I don't feel like getting doxed and have no idea how to contact u

Join #agdc on irc.rizon.net and say who you are.

How were you supposed to know to insert the NES cartridge in the slot and then push it down?

>>157257416
Google one point perspective, ahould be exactly what you are looking for.

>>157260079
Anyone?._.

>>157268097
don't do it

he's the admin and can ip you

Just a point I'd like to share. Don't fall into the trap of thinking your work is "too deep" for people - sometimes that might be the case, but most of the time a lack of interest in your project stems from your project being middling, perhaps even bad.

It's better to be successful hack than an unknown genius

>>157268126
The instruction booklet that came with the NES

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>>157268151

I'm the owner of the channel, not an IRC Operator. I can't see any more than anyone else can, all I can do is set channel-modes, ban users, change the topic.

>>157266053
i actually made my grandmother try the first level in mario bros to test this, since people keep spewing it.

she repeatedly walked into the first enemy and kept dying, she didn't even know it was bad, then she tried the other buttons and saw that she could jump. then over the next 5 minutes she tried to time her jump so she could land on the goomba, the blocks above mario's head actually made it harder for her.

you're just parroting some "game design" article you read, the original super mario bros doesn't do anything to teach the player, it just relies on how much of a gamer the player is. it came with an instruction manual too, which anyone who is having trouble would have read.

this also reminds me of that sequalitis video or whatever, about how megaman x is the best game every because muh no tutorial. you wanna know why there was no tutorial like the one that video parodys? technical limitations, often mended by god damn instruction manuals. i swear it's like everyone is underage and never played these games when they were released.

>>157268304
>My grandmother's retarded so everyone's retarded
Good to know m8.

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>>157248836
Final update
The use buton is finaly working. one week of my life wasted on this,
all worth it

How were you supposed to know to take a shit when your butt hurts?

>>157268304
This anon is right on the parroting article tho.

>>157268389
the fuck is even going on in this shit

delete this.

>>157268418
If you hold it for too long it'll just come out naturally.

>>157268375
we wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't about how game design teaches the player, why would it have to teach someone who knows how to play games?

>>157267931
is there really? i dont even remember that because it wasnt even necessary. the thing that really teaches you to hold is how sensistive it was, if you tapped it you barely hopped, if tapped it even slightly longer you jumped, it was obvious right away to everyone you within a few clicks that you held it for an annoyingly long time to get a ull jump out of it and why everyone who had it as a kid complains about sore thumbs (on top of boxed palms)
that's not 1-1 responsible for learning anything, and theres literally no convoluted way to extend that 1-1 explanation to running... probably how most people got it was by logical extension that holding one button made you jump higher so holding the other might do something too.

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>>157268457
Online tests anon

trying to convert the game to work online

the use button that enables the hitbox did not want to work right

>>157268418
how were you supposed to know that you wanna sleep not thinking you're dying?

Things like instincts and intuition exist you know.

>>157268304
Funny, I also had my grandparents play the first level of Mario, and they got it pretty quickly.

Everyone is different, so their ability to learn something new can be different. Level design can absolutely teach the player how to play, there's no arguing against that because there's countless levels in countless games that teach things through level design.

>>157268418
Your parents teach you, and theirs before them. The humans didn't know how to hold in their shit. They just shat all over the place. It was learning not to do it.

However using this as a metaphor for mechanics design is as shitty as it sounds. You don't want your players to get frustrated because they try to get the most simple shit under their control.

>>157268304
Also, just to note. Your attempt to prove the game doesn't teach you, proves the game teaches you. She hit the goomba, died and then thought "Oh, I must be able to get over him somehow" and learned how to jump.

I'll say this much, you're probably lying about the blocks making it harder for her, given the fact that the goomba walks right into the starting clearing if you don't actively try to progress through the game.

>>157268497
See the text above.

>>157268452
>Don't say things that others might have said at some point because then you're parroting or something!
Really?

>>157268616
>is there really?
Yes. The fact that you don't even know 1-1 shows you shouldn't be talking about this.

>still REEEEEEing about running
Stop posting. It's embarrassing to read.