/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General:

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>>157297963

>> is your game an RPG or a fleet tactics war game, I dont get it

Both. You control a fleet of up to 7 ships and get you can equip each ship with items, manage crew and go on adventures in the galaxy (away missions, salvage and so on).

>>157298208

>> this assumes that each stat is equally valuable, what you need is a transform that estimates the actual value of a stat in relation to other stats
>> git gud @ design nerd

I was in a rush, so I didn't get to finish. But its a good point.

Here is the updated version.

>>157306370
Why can't someone else make a thread for once? Pretty fucking snooty for an anonymous faggot

>>157306648
please do something about the title. The logo and title are too close to FTL

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I wish I had more time to dev. Stats have now more uses other than event tests
>strength - attack roll bonus
>dexterity - escape roll bonus
>charisma - how many allies/followers you can have
>knowledge - how many spells you can have

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Quad trees are more complicated than I antecipated...

I'm trying to make some art assets for my game but I've run into a problem.

I HATE drawing with a mouse and drawing tablets drive me bananas.

So I was wondering about drawing the assets in a physical media, scanning it, and then using it that way.

But I'm racking my brain thinking of the challenges I face with this.

If I have to shrink an image, what kind of quality loss am I expecting?

How do I accurately convert the pixel size of sprites into metric or imperial? Is that even a thing?

I know I've got a lot of reading about resolution and image dpi and other stuff before I go about this, but is this a realistic idea in the first place?

>>157306296

If you can't afford that then you can't afford a game with decent letter rendering aka a decent game.

>>157307015
kek. a thread about making original games steals artwork from another shitty indie game. the irony is palpable

>Last time on Dragonball: Bulma works on a new engine, which makes time travel possible. Son Goku was just playing around. Muten Roshi was ogling at naked pictures of women.

>>157307320
>a thread about making original games

Think u are in the wrong thread bud, the motto here is "Just like make game", anything goes.

>>157307391
all that implying has got to make you thirsty

>>157307320
>original games
Most of the games are not original. It's pretty much impossible by now to create game that's completely unique and plays like actual game.

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r8

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>>157307015

Title and font are locked in.

I've been thinking about some other logos, but I actually like the one I've got. Though I will make a few different ones and see what agdg thinks.

>>157307429
10/10, would wield.

>>157307501
My problem with it is that it reminds me of that godawful stealth indicator that every modern game uses.

>>157307115
how about this
>luck - you can trigger some event in battle like rainning money, someone come to help you in the battle or the enemy just fall to the hole

>>157307501
>literally stealing logo of a fun game
>locked in
dropped

>>157307501
Don't care what nodevs here say dud, going with that title style will ENSURE you will get some sales.

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>>157307545
there is no visible luck/fortune stat but I guess it could work in some events

>One more day of work before you can get back to dev

>>157306957
What do you mean? Whoever made this OP wasn't the same person who made the last two. Because I made the last two.

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who wants to write my lobby system for me? there's not really a lobby, it's just the player becoming a spectator when he connects and then joining in when the round is over.

please put it on pastebin and make it in c#. needs to work with photon

>>157307259
I mean if you draw everything on paper and import it into your game then your game is going to look like it was drawn/cut out of paper, which is kind of shtick but not bad necessarily. The novelty aspect of it may distract a little from whatever else you're doing. But if you're a good artist and, importantly, can hand-draw any animations you need, you could do it.

There are a number of things about the approach that are going to slow you down compared to creating the art digitally. Simply importing the assets from the real world is going to take time, and then preparing them, cropping, resizing, processing the colors/contrast etc, all things that you wouldn't be doing if you just made the art on your screen in the first place. But, if you can manage to draw everything to-scale IRL that should help things go a little more smoothly at least. If I were you and were really serious about going through with something like this I would create a scaled cutout "window frame" of my screen ratio and use that and like printed cutouts of other assets to judge asset sizes while drawing them.

In all seriousness, only do this if you're making something small & simple or you're extremely driven and already fully capable of game dev.

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Mmmmm, working nicely

>>157307259
You can draw everything on paper first.
(Which I also would prefer, if I would be making games.)
But you will have to translate it to the game art. Either by tracing it with pixel art style. Or cleaning it up, when it's very high res.

I would do all the art on paper first. To establish how all the characters and enemies look.

>>157307692
wait, is there sanity stat?

>>157307907
sent :^)

>>157308026
I am working on something pretty small and simple. It's, at its core, using a simple RPG framework but with a lot of stuff stripped out and is mainly riding on the fact that I think I am a decent enough writer.

The art here is going to be the biggest hurdle for me.

Thank you very much though.

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>>157308432
yeah, stamina/reason is health/sanity. Names of those can be changed with one line of code

>>157308567
>horror rpg with sanity stat
nice shadow hearts clone

Any good tutorial/book/guide for c# and unity?

>>157308637

>>157307428
>>157307391

>>157308225
Civil engineering/Traffic Light puzzle game?

>>157308637
>I don't know what a clone means

>>157308567
>knowledge and charisma are different stats
It's 2016.

You have Strength, Dexterity, and Intelligence. If it doesn't flow from one of those three, you're over thinking it.

>>157308793
>I dont have enough friends to play a tabletop game

>>157308793
Pot your name back on gogem

>>157308793
>I'm smart therefore I'm good at talking to people
if that's the case why are you a virgin still?

>>157308852
>he doesn't know tabletop games are simplifying needlessly complex rules to minimize time crunching numbers
Get. With. The. Times.

The age of 3 different body stats, 4 brain stats, and 2 dump stats has passed. Along with DC20.

>>157308487
Well you could probably use RPG maker. Unless you're already confident of your dev abilities.

>>157308793
What if he is not strong, not very skilled with his hands, and didn't went to school? But he is a very honest and likeable person.

Then, this stats make sense. Every stats can make sense, it all depends on the game and what the developer wants to achieve.

>>157308567
So what happened every state of sanity, like when on low, on high or something

>>157308918
>there are nuances to brain skills

>there are no nuances to body skills

This is antiquated thinking. Functional aptitude comes from balance. You can derive a player's charisma in much more interesting ways than 'out of 9'. It's an interesting dynamic.

>>157308927
Are you trolling or do you really not understand the difference between wisdom and intelligence?

>>157309053
Intelligence is recognizing persuasiveness is not the same as intelligence. Wisdom is having the sense not to make persuasiveness a separate stat.

You can leverage one stat to bolster another.

>intimidate is strength multiplied by intelligence
>coerce is dexterity multiple by intelligence

Not every little interaction needs a stat pool. Be more creative for fucks sake or read some more recent rule books.

People have hated stat dumps since the fucking late 80's.

Solution: Replace all stats with a lucky stat, which can be 0 or 1.

>>157309001
I'm not, but if I do see this project to completion, I would want to be able to release it for phones. That way my nieces will play it.

>>157308793

>It's 2016
>These plebs don't even use BASIC

Body
Agility
Senses
Intellect
Charisma

Literally the best, most complete, non-redundant stat spread ever created. It even comes with a nice Acronym.

However if you really want you could throw in Luck.

>>157309182
Everybody point and laugh... and cry
This type of thinking is why games are getting dumbed down and simplified. Thanks for Skyrim, asshole.

>>157308927
>anon is making a retro (going by the look) rpg thing
>get with the times
why don't you make a modern rpg with zero stats?

>>157309182
life is even more complex so why reduce the already minimal stats of 6 to 3.

If we have in 10 years only 1 stat, will you also follow this trend?

Maybe we will have no stats and all and humanity is already dead.

Enjoy your 6 stats I say. And if you enjoy 10 then do ten, or twenty or thirty.

>>157309254
I won't because I don't care.

>>157309182
Wrong. People love stats. They love so much that there are games purely based on stats
http://www.toptrumps.com/

>>157300257

Manlet Knight and his (eventual) buddies go through doom wads and beat the shit out of a lot of skeletons.

>>157309254
>gleaning useless crap is dumbing down
Why aren't you using tables to account for special actions? Because it's bad and slows down the game for no reason.

>>157309319
>people love stats
People also love eating shit. Not as many as non shit eaters though.

>>157309292
They call those point and clicks and they can do that because they have more emphasis on storytelling than actual gameplay.

>>157309319
wrong
some people love stats
some people hate stats
some people are indifferent

>>157309391
>using tables for special actions
First off, video games do this for you. Secondly, you only have to worry about it during level ups or buffs/debuffs.
Stats = replayability

How to do possibilities?
If i have 30% chance for something to happen.
Do i just random 1-100,
and if <= 30, something happen?

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>>157309237
>senses
this could actually fit great in some of the events

>>157309540
That works. 1-10 would work also

>>157309028
>>there are no nuances to body skills

Said no one ever.

Strength, Dexterity, Constitution are generally regarded as the major ones.

Then there's Reflexes, Fortitude, Endurance, Agility,Vitality. Many of these can overlap despite being different things, hence why they're usually bundled together. It all depends on where the developer wants to go.

>>157309515
>stats = replayability
Once again, update your thinking. The problem isn't the stats, the problem is the needless stats. You can easily fold most stats that are grey areas into one of the three columns of strength, dexterity, and intelligence.

Or mind body soul. 3 stat systems work fine.

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>>157309391
Why do you decide what is useless and what is not. There is nothing in the world that is useless.
Why can't you see there is meaning in everything, it's just a preference.
Do you want it simple or complex? If the game will refer to both stats differently then there is a reason for it to exist.
If there are 12 stats implemented in the game then it's 12. Those can be really fun and interesting games.

Princess Maker wouldn't be the same if it would only have half of the stats. Or only 3 or only 1. The diversity of possibilities makes it interesting.

>>157309626
Body : Strength, Constitution, Dexterity.

Mind : Intelligence, Charisma, Wisdom.

Soul : nonexistent

>>157309642
If the point of the game is just to juggle as many esoteric numbers as possible, there's a market for it.

But if the game isn't about juggling numbers, then there's no reason to introduce a bunch of noise between hitting a goblin and choosing a helmet.

Use whatever stat system you want and let anon the genius show us all how it's done by never finishing a game with his revolutionary modern stat systems.

>>157309579
>the smell of blood
What

>>157309707
You can make most things fit into 3 columns. Sometimes less. Generally if it needs a fourth column, you can set a flag instead of provide a player visible indicator.

>>157309764
Blood has a smell.

>>157309319
i will make game pure on stat only

>>157309764
blood smells, bro

>>157309764
Fucking americans

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>>157307538
>>157307568
>>157307689

I'll try another design tomorrow when I'm fresh.

>>157309626
opinion disregarded. go ahead and make that game and see how hard it flops. literally minecraft has more stats and its made for babies

>>157309764
Blood has a really strong iron-like smell

>>157309642
such low morality

>>157309897
What

>>157309935
High charisma, low morality
That girl is dangerous

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>>157309923
and taste

>>157309642
Those are not esoteric numbers. Those are valid description of the values and abilites a human person can have in real life.

>But if the game isn't about juggling numbers, then there's no reason to introduce a bunch of noise between hitting a goblin and choosing a helmet.

You are right. Drop what is not needed. If you have a useless stat, then why is it there.

But I think a developer is reasonable enough to implement only those things that will be found in the game mechanics, somewhere.

I think what you mean is, just putting 6 stats in the game because of tradition and not even really using half of it.

If your game doesn't have a bust size stat you're doing it wrong

your stats should also have past and a future and an encrypted value

>>157310059
Or an anal circumference stat like FATAL

>>157310021

oops, I meant >>157309719 of course

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I like 15x15. I was using 10x10 before, but I realized the availability of a central pixel was critical. Then I decided I wanted dimensions that could easily be cut into halves and thirds. I can run 3 lines through the square and get equal sizes. As well as bisect.

Don't mind me. Just rubbing my nipples to pixels. On a related note, 15x15 seems to be a very highly favored size for emoticons.

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>>157310002
TASTE THE BLOOD
TASTE YOUR FATE
SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE
WITH YOUR HATE

>>157310089
If it fits, why not.

>>157310197
I can't understand what you've drawn here even when I put my glasses on.

>>157309795
I didn't know Bethesda devs were posting in this general. Why are you so obsessed with the number 3 and why are you so convinced that simplifying mechanics is always better? Sometimes you need to tell the difference between a quick guy and a strong guy, you can't do that with a common "body" stat. Nor can you tell the difference between an autistic genius, a convincing leader and a riddle-loving old man with a single "Mind" stat.

Feel free to apply your stat philosophy in your own games though, and prove us wrong by making millions.

>>157308654
Pls respond to this newfag.

>>157310264
A little dude, a silhouette, a little dude glowing, and a little face. And I mean dude agendered. It could be a little he+she. I don't know how it identifies.

>>157309898
noice

>>157310269
Sure thing.

>hp
>armor
>ammo
>millions of copies sold
God damn.

>height
>lives
>coins
Holy fuck.

>>157310197
>easily be cut into halves
>15
The central pixel is not as critical as you seem to think. 24 and 48 are the superior sprite sizes.

>>157310330
community college. 25 or older? guess what? you get paid to go

>>157309795
>>157309826
>>157309923
Really? i been near blood since child and never ever have i smelled it, it didn't matter if it was still hot or not, for me it doesn't smell

>>157310490
I'm using 50x50 for sprites.

>>157310510
You must have a healthy supply of iron in your blood. Or you smoke

>>157308654
>>157310330

I don't know. I found this if it helps you. But I don't know if the tutorials on the official site are good. But it's a start, I guess.

https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials

>>157310510
Blood has a smell. Read books, watch movies, or visit a slaughterhouse. The smell of death is often related to the smell of blood.

>>157310490
>24, 48
>>157310572
>50
Why? Are you an artist? That's a lot of pixel density for what will probably end up being mixels anyway.

>>157310440
>hp
>armor
>ammo

And damage.

Good job blowing your own argument apart.

inb4

>uuh uuuh then ill just remove armor!

>>157310671
>damage
Isn't visible to the player. Nice try though.

>>157310704
>Isn't visible to the player

In most games? Yeah it is.

Of course if you're only making CoD-clones yeah I could see how 3 is enough.

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>>157310623
>Are you an artist?
no, that's the problem.
I have no idea what's the size for sprites.
so i just pick a complete number and worked from there.

>mixels
yeah, i went through that meme.
people took a good 1/3 of /agdg/ thread discussing about it.
if u remember pic related.

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>>157310812
Forgot pic.

And this is streamlined modern sequel. Original Deus Ex had a lot more stats.

Just be honest and admit your target audience is children and dumbasses.

>>157310549
>>157310623
24 and 48 are both highly composite numbers, which means they have more divisors than all of the previous numbers on the number line, making them very easy to break down.

>That's a lot of pixel density for what will probably end up being mixels anyway
Mixels aren't some magical thing that just pop up, the person has to intentionally create mixels for them to appear.

>>157310582
Thanks, already did some and i don't really like the flow of the tutorials, il look around too, can't keep asking to be spoonfeed when i don't even move by myself.
>>157310572
That may be so, most of my diet is based in red meat.
>>157310623
Yes i know that, i know it tastes like iron but i don't get the smell part, i been near dead animals since kid and i don't smell a thing in their blood.
Btw the smell in a slaughterhouse is closer to raw meat, the body fat and the shit of the animal.

>not making your sprite dimensions prime numbers

>>157310962
>btw the smell of a slaughterhouse is-
I think you're being obtuse to be a special snowflake at this point.

>he has unencrypted data of any kind in his game

you may as well just send me your credit card

>>157310623
>Read books, watch movies
is you serious?
>The smell of death is often related to the smell of blood.
Decaying flesh has a pretty poignant smell. That has nothing to do with blood.

>>157311034
How so?

is you serious?

So, I'm making a game for kids to play to try and learn math, and anything else added by the user. Any ideas?

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Gonna take a break on working with text, don't have the patience to untangle a 1000 line C# script to figure out how to add the functionality I need for dialogue. Might just look at grabbing a parser off the asset store.

I did some more work on the inventory though - I made it so that if you have multiple equipment slots for a item it prefers when you right click to equip it into the empty slot - if you have no empty slots it instead just swaps the item.

Planning on
>Right click a item in the inventory to either activate a effect or unequip the item, depending on the item itself

>everybody talks about efficient pathfinding
>muh vectorfields muh 10000 units at 4459050 fps
>nobody ever talks about avoidance

It's even hard to find shit about it while googling, what good is an amazing pathfinding algorithm if the avoidance will bring the CPU to its knees?

>>157311383
Learn to smell blood

>>157311416
>what good is an amazing pathfinding algorithm if the avoidance will bring the CPU to its knees
For AI!

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>>157311416
Well with a flow field you basically just add a "force field" around an object that causes things to go around it.

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Pointless features are the best features

>>157311654
should've given them different haircuts

arr rook same

>>157311654
That text is unreadable.

>>157311416
Quite sure you just add cost/impassibility for other units on the field and that will work naturally.

I don't know how you'd do that without recalculating part of the flowfield every tick though.

>>157311613
Assuming the units that need avoiding are moving, wouldn't that mean recalculating the cost layer of the field every tick? Obviously it's used by everyone so it is still independent of entities, but still feels like it would be quite expensive.

>>157311785
Nevermind I didn't realize it's the same character. You even let them choose a different job for each char? That's pretty neat.

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>>157311812
shoulda gone to specsavers

>>157311812
yeah, experimenting with it right now

>>157311828
No. You have the more precise flow field for statics and then you just literally add in the contributions from dynamic obstacles.
e.g.
flow = map(x, y) + Σo:Obstacle.avoid(o, x, y)
where
avoid(o, x, y) gives a vector to avoid obstacle o if the actor is at (x, y).

>>157311828
I'm not a flow field expert but I think recalculating part of it is still massively cheaper than the alternatives when it comes to many entities (A*, D*, etc).

>>157308567
Yeah , i'm thinking about this
What if we can trick monster to attack it other
Like if you chase by serial killer , you can trick him go into a hunted elevator

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>>157311812
how is it now?
>>157311879
>You even let them choose a different job for each char? That's pretty neat.
It's basically one sprite + different set of stats. A quick idea I'm toying with. So far I've got
>KNOWLEDGE
transfer student with a random spell / ??
>STRENGTH
yakuza driver / yakuza thug
>DEXTERITY
swimming team captain / ???
>CHARISMA
policeman / ???
>FUNDS
idol / ???
>PERCEPTION
??? / ???

post weeb dev music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7aPocCfsI4

>>157312904
https://www.youtube.com/user/pinocchiopchannel/videos

So since AGDG have proved himself to be a cancer to video game, I decided at first not to come here anymore, but I'm facing a problem and I don't know where else I can find help. Here's the shit:

I though of making a 3D game with game maker, sortof an RPG about towergirl CYOA, but I'm facing difficulties in 3D. For exemple, for the collisions. So I decided to switch to 2D but with multiple plan. (imagine 5 2D glued together). But I'm afraid player might have difficulties knowing on which plan they are.

Any idea on how to solve that?

>>157313008
Fuck off.

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>>157313008

>i decided to not come here anymore
>but I'm gonna come back and ask for help

>tfw you're in serious danger of missing the Halloween deadline due to very real risk of suicide

>>157313008
Kill yourself

>>157313054
Thank you AGDG on proving once again to be a helping, but getting fucked doesn't help at all.

>>157313008
Here's your (You).

Hey, out of curiosity whats the demand like for original art and assets on projects in these threads?

>>157313008
I'm not sure exactly what you mean (multiple planes can be visualized in many different ways) by this so maybe a quick sketch of your idea might help.

>>157313161
High

157313106

take this (You) and live

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Had some thoughts on perspective when it comes to using billboarded graphics since my game is likely going to use them pretty often. Does anyone here have experience with 'em?

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>>157313325

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>>157310490
>24 and 48 are the superior sprite sizes

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>>157312754
now with all the extra stats

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>>157313380

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>>157313380

>>157313325
It seems like the problem in your case is due to the billboard facing the camera origin and not simply orienting itself with the camera's direction.

>>157313161
Many people here are one man army. But There are often people looking for an artist.

I wonder how much this cost Firaxis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noneMROp_E8

>>157313008
>So since AGDG have proved himself to be a cancer to video game
>implying AGDG is one person

But anyways, why not just used an engine with proper 3D?

>>157313596
Around tree fiddy

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I've forgotten what it's like to be happy
If I complete my game, will the happiness return?

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>>157313194
So here's the thing:
On A you have 3d, which doesn't work with game maker because GM doesn't understand that two object with the same X and Y but a different Z aren't at the same place.
So I changed it to B, where you have X1, X2 and X3 (same for Y), and then I put them behing each other (to have 3 different Z places).
The problem came on case C, where there's no way to know if the line is on plan 1 at the basic height, plan 2 but in the air, or far in the air in plan 3.

>>157313668
Because 3D engine I'd tried until now where pretty displeasant to work with.
I technically could have made my proper 3d engine in java, but hey, I'm not trying to suicide myself.

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>>157313380

>>157313831
If you're making a game while being sad, chances are that your game isn't gonne be fun.

>>157313668
Even without being one person, I've seen many time people on AGDG being bullied. Maybe that's one of them.

>>157314007
this is a non bullying zone

if you see someone being bullied, tell me

>>157314007
for 140 unique posters on average there are like 20 games in development, being anonymous attracts shitposting

>>157314242
Well, not gonna lie. I'm came here at first when I made a game for my traineeship (my first game and a pretty shitty one, a 2d rpg to help kid on learning how to read), and somehow someone got my mail address and posted it here.
I've received tons of hatefull mail from throwaway addresses, and I was forced to change my mail address.

>>157313008
Nice b8 faggot

>>157314518
that sounds unlikely

>>157313891
I'm still having trouble understanding but it sounds like you are looking for possible depth clues to use during rendering this with an orthographic camera? If that is the case your best bet is probably to use shading as depth clues. If there is some kind of height selection mechanic too then you can use transparency.

>>157314518
based on your charming personality,
i would say most likely you deserved all of it.

>>157314621
So like making everything not in use darker or clearer? That sound like a good idea. I'm gonna try and if that work I'll may post about it.

>>157314678
I had all the reasons in earth to be full of hate about here. Usually I'm more of a kind and shy person.


But still, I had my answer, so thanks.

>>157314678
How can you determine that his personality is sarcastically charming from those two posts?

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~~=Recap Complete=~~
Since the real recap guy is taking a break, I did a manual recap.
A total of 25 games were entered in this week's recap.
16 games have returned. It took a while to copy paste all the data.
Keep up the great work! I don't mind. I like getting to know all these fun games.

~~=High Scores=~~
(17) Unnamed Pixel Platformer
(13) Monolith
(11) Skylarks
(9) Project Shmoop
(9) [Placeholder Title]
(4) Vampire's Bit
(4) Mini Necrovania
(3) Shiphack
(3) Ctesiphon
(3) Crystal Chrysalis
(1) Super Space Jam Jetpack Robo Turbo
(1) Ouroboros: The Ascension
(1) Whimp the Bold
(1) RPG Town Builder
(1) Halloween Bullet Hell
(1) September Sortie

(Score is calculated by number of recaps in a row)

I hope I did a good job with this. Sorry if it's off in any way.
(Its not code, just copy pasted based on previous recaps)
If you find any errors just post about it. I did the best I could.

>>157312030
So basically, you keep the information of the flowfield for statics and add on top the dynamics? Yeah that makes sense, rather than re-evaluate everything, it's just a vector field addition and the static one doesn't need recalculating.

Thanks mate, makes it a lot clearer.

>>157314858
>Tag simulator
You're already better than the real guy.

>>157314858
>(1) RPG Town Builder
I-Its (3) for me actualy...
Though my first recap uses the name RPGTB as a shortform,
but my 2nd time was RPG Town Builder,
and this week is the 3rd time i recap.
Gimme muh scores

anyway,
good to have you here.
god bless your kind souls.

you are the hero we needed,
but not the hero we deserved.

My girlfriend

So height is all a matter of perspective, right? You can place the player at whatever height you'd like, and set your level to whatever height you want so you have complete control over everything essentially

So the question is - what is the optimal size to be rendering everything? You have quite a lot of precision possible but I feel like a ton of performance and looks hinge on how you decide to scale your world. Anyone thought about this?

My game

>>157315480
Makes zero difference.

>>157309898
Are sold on the name and the logo?
I'd take a crack at it if you'd like. It's my business making logos

>>157315716
I seriously doubt that

Think about how textures are rendered in the first place, by drawing lines between points in space. The shorter the lines are the less smooth your textures are going to look and yet you get a natural anti-aliasing when scaling textures down

>>157315480
It makes zero difference RENDERING (ignoring floating point errors) but if you're using some built-in physics system, it USUALLY prefers 1 metre per unit.

>"lewd content sucks xD"
>everyone literally jizzing their pants over the new mercy halloween costume

the hypocrisy is unbelievable

>>157315895
Actually even with floating point it doesn't matter because floating-point error is all relative.

>>157315878
That's just texture resolution.

>>157314858
did you do it manually, like you took each entry and edited it in to the picture?

If recap guy is taking a break, I might consider devving a script for this, or something.

>>157315480
>>157315878
You're talking about 3D, right?
Rendering doesn't care about the scale of your models.

It's all arbitrary, the only important thing is you keep it consistent in your own game. If you play as a human then usually 1 unit = 1 meter is a good size. If you play as an ant maybe 1 unit = 1 centimeter would be better. If you play as a kaiju then maybe you'd want to have 1 unit = 10 meters.

>>157315380
i should probably have more too but i think i keep fucking up my games name since i am drunk usually

>>157315965
built in physics systems tend to have some constants though like all the magic numbers in unitys physx and box2d implemenations

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>>157314858
Looks good to me. Good job.

>>157316053
Recap guy published his source code:
github.com/HowDoGameDev/AgdgRecap

>>157315878
>1 unit cube, camera 1 unit away
>takes up the screen
>10 unit cube, camera 10 units away
>takes up the exact same screen space

it makes no difference fampai

>>157316471
I'm talking about the rendering part.

>>157316939
When did recap guy died?

>>157310962
I am iron deficient so blood tastes sweet to me. Incredible how the body tricks you into getting what you need.

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So I finally made the switch from XNA to Monogame, which was a trip and a half, seven hours of tears and frustation, but I wound up with one problem, my spritefont's blurry even with the same settings in monogame. I'm not attached to that particular font, but I do wonder if monogame has better settings for it than XNA did. XNA didn't really have any support for things like removing the blurriness of it in favor of solid pixels. Does monogame have something like that hidden somewhere? I can't find anything like that in the settings. Also, looking around, I found Monogame.Extended, which has a BMFont class in it. How does that compare to SpriteFont? The articles I've read on it don't really mention it.

>>157317276
He lived in Florida, he died in the Hurricane
RIP

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Game's currently got no sound outside of random free music I've found. Should I start adding sound effects and make the skill effects a bit more appealing or continue making characters/content for the tutorial battle?

>>157316053
>did you do it manually, like you took each entry and edited it in to the picture?
Yes that's what I did. I know there's usually a code but figured whatever, I can do this by hand for once even if it takes a while.

I'm working on my first 3D project, and everything is nice and dandy so far, expect one thing:

What is "1" supposed to be in 3D?

1 unit in 2D is just one pixel. But if I have a cobe in 3D which is 1x1x1, then it's a pretty big body compared to a 1x1 pixel. I can build a house in it if I want, not to mention it's like vector graphics in 2D: I can scale it up and down, it'll look good (except the textures, of course).

Should I think about it as 1 meter? How can I build my world and plan my physics without knowing the basic unit of distance measurement?

>>157317601
He lived in Florida?
Poor lad.
That's it, he's dead.
When are we having a jam in memory of recap guy?

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Since people are talking about pathfinding:
PLEASE DON'T BE THE GUY WHO OVERDOES IT

Nothing is worse in a indirect control game (e.g. RTS, top down RPG, etc) than overdone pathfinding. Yes it costs less to walk around the hill when I clicked on the other side of it. No I don't want you to do that because you're going to walk into range of enemy archers. If I wanted you to go around it, I'd have used waypoints.

>>157317698
read this:
>>157316252

How do you anons get enough time to dev? After a day at work I have maybe 3-4 hours of dev time before its time to sleep. Doesn't feel like it's enough to make significant progress.

>>157317885
I dev 4~20h depending on if I finish what I set out to do. That said, I have long dev sessions, but they're not exactly constant, as I love to play games too. What's important is that you work steadily on it.

>>157317885
I'm NEET

>>157317851
use waypoints to go the long way, fucktard

>>157317586
you can write a shader that makes the alpha 255 if it's not 0

>the throne of recaps is free for taking
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>157318305
Oh, I didn't think of that, but wouldn't it look bad like that? I think I'd need some sort of threshold. But if there's a way to do it without shaders, I think that would be a better approach, so I can put sweet bloom fx on it.

>>157317885
I only work Fri~Sun, but I work 12 hour shifts @ $20/hr.

This means I get 4 days off. Plenty of time to dev.

The better you are, the faster progress you can make.

>>157318465
I don't know why it would scale different with Monogame than XNA, but you're going to have to scale it to a different size - the AA is due to it being imperfectly scaled

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You can now right click to unequip items, it will also avoid unequipping if you have no free inventory slots available

>>157318059
Yeah I'm going to keep it up. Maybe spend more time on it like you later down the road if it could amount to something.
>>157318181
Unacceptable
>>157318467
Nice. That's still pretty close to fulltime and you can focus way better imo when you don't have to split up your deving into several sessions.

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Been playing around with photogrammetry for the past few weeks. It is actually pretty damn easy and fun.

I'm concerned that the assets I'm making don't hold up though. Does this look like it could be AAA shit? I know the tiling is shit and my normals are a tiny bit wonky, but do you think this could work?

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Could trips every be non-cancerous?

Imagine if recaps worked like scraping the thread first for trips, then second for a progress format. Optionally third, later when bump limit is high, to see if the post was deleted.

Or something like that. Basically though, an idea of not just presenting the weekly recaps, but also being able to have a history of the project in recaps, grouped by trip.

I like many others, find trips to be almost always used in poor form, and lead to what the locals call faggotry. But I think this could be a good start to an interesting idea.

Maybe some way to dissuade keeping your trip on when you're not posting progress? Hmm.

Another thought: this would have the additional benefit of being able to link to the history of the project in jams and demodays, making whodevs easy to spot.

>>157318272
If you mean the costly way over the hill, why would I need to? Keep the pathfinding to avoid impassable terrain, I should decide everything else, by default the pathfinder should care about the shortest route. I'd rather not lose units because the pathfinder thought it would know better and decided to walk right into enemy lines.

If you do mean the long way around, then yeah that's what I was saying.

>>157318725
If we ignore the textures not lining up being especially visible with bricks, I'd say it's fine but if you want to go for AAA you need higher resolution.

Still, it's a fast cheap way of generating rather good textures once you iron out the kinks.

>>157318725
Just learn to photosource textures and model real models.

Will save you a lot of trouble.

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>>157317851
If you use influence mapping the ai can know to avoid dangerous areas but in general I agree with your sentiment. I worked on a pathfinder that was better than most players at avoiding danger but most of the time when it kicked in the player would panic and fuck it up. In the end I don't think its worth trying to guess at what a player wants to do when you can just give them the controls to do what they want on their own.

>>157318857
why?

>>157318647
I tried a few sizes and it doesn't come out looking good at all like that. I'm guessing I need to find a unicode font that looks decent at 8 px somewhere.

>>157318467

What kind of job do you have?

>>157317876
Ah, I see. Thanks!

>>157318857
>Or something like that. Basically though, an idea of not just presenting the weekly recaps, but also being able to have a history of the project in recaps, grouped by trip.
that's pretty much avaiable in the archive
>Another thought: this would have the additional benefit of being able to link to the history of the project in jams and demodays, making whodevs easy to spot.
alienates all non whodevsdevs who don't post on recaps

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I kinda want to get a mount and blade / mass effect style overview map but something about planets and ships being the same scale looks really fucking retarded.

Ideas?

>>157308725
Yes, you could say that. More of a free-form management game than a puzzle game, though - but certainly the planning of roads/intersections/gates to make a connection is a puzzle in itself.

>>157319548
>alienates all non whodevsdevs who don't post on recaps
But this would be a more generalized "capture all progress posts" thing, that can optionally be subset by week. And if that alienates non-whodevs who don't even post progress, well, then they're a whodev.

>>157319634
Maybe make little icons for the ships, like something on one of those old war maps where a stylized horse stood for a cavalry division.

Am I going to catch shit if I start a shmup project and post the dev progress here?

>>157319548
so it alienates all devs who post progress but don't tripfag? it's effectively the same. turning agdg in recap's private club

>>157308793
>>157309237
I like the system in Sil (a *band roguelike):

Strength
Dexterity
Constitution
Grace

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I've been fiddling with another prototype for a halloween jam game.
It will kinda be like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i3aAbPPvWc

Now I'm thinking if the aim cursor should be controlled by mouse or arrow keys. Of course mouse controls would make things easier as shooting and reloading could be done with mouse buttons, but I fear that aiming with the mouse would get way too easy.

>>157318857
Trips are stupid. Your stupid insular club idea of "whodevs" is stupid too. Maybe some people lurk and don't like to post much. Maybe they are literally shilling. It doesn't matter, that's the point of anonymity and 4chan as a hole. If you want to an an insular dumb club where you circle jerk with the same few people, go make a sub reddit and moderate it.

ur dum and bad at games

>>157320013
>am i going to catch shit for starting a game and posting my progress on agdg

yes.

>>157320174
>whodev sweating profusely
>j-just let me shill my game

>>157320370
More or less meant the genre specifically, but if the answer hasn't changed then that is fine too I guess.

>>157317851
>Don't over do it
Ok I I keep is super simple then?
>Yes it costs less to walk around the hill when I clicked on the other side of it.
Yes, this is a very simple Hueristic, and usually pretty good. Ok.
> No I don't want you to do that because you're going to walk into range of enemy archers.
Wait, what?
I don't think I understand what you mean.
If I'm right we have a hill we can't go over, and two ways to go around the hill.
One way is in range of the enemy. if it's to avoid the enemy that is an extra test, and a more complicated hueristic. This is more over done than just going by distance.

Can you expand on your argument?

>>157320546
> genre specifically
sarcasm aside, why would anyone complain about a shoot em up.

the only shit you'll get from agdg is if you made a point & click adventure or something.

>>157320657
Pug's Life was well-received on AGDG.

But not anywhere else

>>157320013
Be warned, some bullies called the LP League has blacklist/shitlisted AGDG, so if you post your game here, you will have to pay up to not have your game trashed on their channel.

>>157320632
No. You have a hill you can go over, but is rather steep. A pathfinder would look at it and say "hey it costs less to go the way around it", and walk straight into the enemy firing range. Obviously if the hill is impassable it would be different.

>>157318995
There is also the fact that, after all, the player needs to be able to fuck up too. If you give a bad moveorder and your units end up encircled, the pathfinder shouldn't stop that from happening. For example if this was the case in Total War, the player skill would drop massively in importance.

Units shouldn't walk into U-shaped terrain traps or get stuck walking against walls, but they should for the rest depend on the player for fast and intelligent movement. Same thing with avoidance, again in TW it should be up to the player to not order two formations through the gate from opposite sides at the same time.

>>157321065
All point and click games I've seen here were well received I don't know what htat guy is talking about

>no point and click will ever live up to your QFG nostalgia
why live

>>157321136
AH OK, I get what you mean now.
I'm just get ting into implementing pathfinding in the next week or two, so I was interested in pitfalls, or other issues.

>>157321103
Why did they "blacklist" AGDG? What petty internet drama could have led to that?

>>157321296
they're 8shitters that got blacklisted long ago

>>157319916
That's a neat idea, I'll see what I can come up with. Not really sure what would match those wooden statue thingies in space.

>>157313325
This is a perfect example of why billboarded sprites are so bad, especially as moving entities and a player controller camera.

>>157320534
>m-muh sekrit club!

I've been here since it was threads on /v/, which was a hell of a lot better than the circle jerk autism fest we have now.

>>157321103
Who the hell is that? A single youtube channel?

They aren't big enough to show up when you search their exact name, and I seriously doubt what they say will be worse than the abuse you'll get here.

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>>157321296
I don't know but they're pretty bad dudes, if I were an amateur gamedev I'd definitely pay up

>>157321627
I heard that they're actually a bunch of bitch niggas though, is it true?

>>157321803
say that again to my game fucker and see what happens

>>157321875
Bitch-ass nigga, how you're doing famalam

>>157321296
Probably the whole "4chan is a bad place, full of pedophiles and racists" meme

>study art in uni
>work in graphic design for years
>branching into environmental art, character art

>every programmer uses tools that I have no interest in
Ugh I wish this was easier

Why does the HTML5 build of my game maintain better frame-rate than the Windows .exe build?

I'm using GM:S. I'm just curious as to what they're doing.

>>157322391
what tools you have interest in?

>>157322463
Good luck

>>157322463
Something very wrong.

You people don't really believe that the "LP League" exists, right? Paying for the LP League to not blacklist your game is the same meme as starting an LLC so you don't get your assets stolen.

>>157321136
>There is also the fact that, after all, the player needs to be able to fuck up too.
It was supposed to both allow and not allow the player to fuck up. My boss did not understand that this was a paradoxical design.

>>157321103
i love this meme

>>157322550
I'm not taking any chances.

LP League, if you're watching, my game is Boogers and Butts, and I'm willing to pay.

>>157322668
That's right, it's just the cost of doing business. Smart man, heh heh. We'll be in touch.

>>157322550
It's not like let's players would play my game anyway since it's not youtube friendly

>>157322804
You'd be surprised. A lot will censor the extreme stuff, but leave in enough to get a clickbaity thumbnail and all the traffic that comes with hosting borderline porn on a sfw site.

Today I will make a full backup and research backup methods. What progress will you make today, AGDG?

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Got player actions working.
Well, at least attacks.
Still need to add a shift button (to switch positions), and the item inventory button some day (urgh).
Also actual health stat, etc.

I won't worry about prettifying it and having actions make sense until I finish most other things. Art is coming last this time. I'm making better progress this way.

>>157322550
I assumed it's the same person pushing both memes.
Maybe it's you

>>157323861
I have 3 backup methods.

Git

AutoBackUp extension I made in Unity, which saves + backs my project up every 30 minutes.

SyncBackPro backup software, which makes backups every hour.

As for today's progress, Navmesh 2D platformer pathfinding again.

why haven't you made a patreon for your game yet?

>>157324509
Because I don't need money to make a game.

>>157324509
Because it's a bad way to fund game development

>>157324509
My game is shit I'd feel bad for receiving money for it

>>157324509
Because LP League would just charge me more so what's the point

>>157324509
People rip on Patreon a lot but really it's the only proper way to go about it if you are a single dev or very small team. You don't actually promise anything for money or sell an unfinished game, it's just "if you want to see this game made, helping me with the bills would make it more likely".

>>157324509
patreon and kikestarter are illegal in my country :(

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>>157321442

>>157324806
>You don't actually promise anything for money or sell an unfinished game, it's just "if you want to see this game made, helping me with the bills would make it more likely".

you don't seriously believe this do you? patreon isn't a tip jar lol. the moment you make one you don't own your game anymore, you are the patrons bitch and they expect you to cater to them. it's a flawed website

What are the best resources for getting started with Unity?

Or should I just be diving in and feeling it out

So what's a reasonable amount to shell out for sprite art?

Not making a fighting game, it's a VN. So not too many poses.

>>157325360
Same as regular art

>>157325360
I've done quite a lot of commissioned work, I could probably help. What sort of VN? What engine?

>>157325175
only true if you're a pussy ass nigga
you can literally do nothing for months and cancel the game on their faces and they will still fund your next patreon, see meme season

Oh my god what have I done
Wouldn't you love to be on the cover of steam

>>157325881
Looks like a super fun mechanic! Make it so you can grab unto flying enemies as well!

>>157326136
Can do. I just need more flying enemies than those fucking crows.

>>157325881
the hud looks good but you should really tighten up the amount of space it takes up

Is GIMP an actually good replacement for photoshop or is it part of the "free but nowhere near as good" meme like blender?

>>157326279
Consider: more corvids. A diverse roster of corvids.

>>157326704
Depending on what you're using it for and how you use it. I am very familiar with it and mostly use it for a few specific purposes so it's handy for me. But see also krita and aseprite.

>>157326515
I might change it a bit. There's possibility that magic bar will be completely removed in future. or be placed under hp bar and I'll remove the weapon icon if I do that. Been working one fucking week on the grappling hook... The GM:S collisions are driving me crazy.

>>157326279
do you have floating eyeballs in your game?

>>157326704
There is no good replacement to photoshop
There are some programs that can do some of the things photoshop does
Blender is good you probably don't know how to use it

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Is there a reason I don't see more games coming from Love2D?

>>157326515
OBS doesn't let you record in any other aspect ratio so there are borders.

>>157326704
Just like Blender, Gimp was made by aliens. It's shit.

>>157326932
>not using ffmpeg to crop the borders

>>157326861
Nope. If you got any ideas feel free to tell. There's currently not too many enemies. My artist (who is no longer part of team) left me with some good designs so there's already some work done, just need to make sprites for some and animate some. SouthCXC was very generous when he left the team. Hopefully he manages to finish his own game.

>>157326905
Because it's a framework and not a full blown engine?

>>157327073
>expecting effort
Put your hands up over the screen, they disappear.

>>157326932
I'm pretty sure you can drag/stretch/trim/crop/do whatever you want with your scene. Cropping is somewhere inside right click menu (got no access to OBS atm).

>>157326932
yes it does

>>157327124
So? What's the difference?

>>157326886
>you said it's not as good as other 3D apps therefore you don't know how to use it

good to know I'm dealing with a butthurt blenderfag who can't handle the idea of his precious FOSS being flawed

>>157326932
You can record in any aspect ratio or screen size you want to record in.

>>157327093
floating tombstones
ghosts
floating weapons
zombie jack in the box

>>157322391
How does the programmer's tools affect your work?

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>>157327163
but it takes less than 5 seconds to do.

>>157327209
yep.
don't even need ffmpeg.

>>157327361
>flawed things can't be good

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Did Main gameplay interface today.

Feel free to recommend me fun things to add, like that weather stuff and time of the day.

It's a board type of game with a theft setting.

>>157325343
Depends a lot on what kind of background you have but Unity's own tutorials and videos on their website surely will get you started.

>>157327209
You can do that to the sources in the canvas, not to the canvas itself.

I can set the canvas size though. I didn't realize I could type in the resolution instead of just using the drop-down which only has 16:9 resolutions.

>>157327675
Same to you.

>>157327701
why did you draw a game interface in the classroom?

>>157325343
>diving in
what are you going to be doing? programming? 3D assets? Sprites? look up whatever it is you're going to do and begin on some tutorials

>>157327816
Settings -> Video -> Canvas Resolution

You're welcome.

>>157328109
Yeah thanks, I just said I could do that and then you replied to tell me how. Keeping the (You).

>tfw cannot into art in any way shape or form
All of my games look like a disabled 4 year old drew them with MS Paint.

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>>157327816
>not to the canvas itself
Well, still takes like 2 seconds with ffmpeg.

I have my mpv player setup to where I can press a hotkey and it'll run a script that'll crop the current video based on where I click.

>>157328223
>You can do that to the sources in the canvas, not to the canvas itself.
What does this mean then?

You're acting like you can't change the settings though. You can literally record however you want with OBS.

>>157328257
how long have you been practicing anon?

thanks, you too

>>157328568
I've never practiced art. I learned very early on in my life that I'm essentially entirely void of creativity, so I never bothered with it. Making games was my first foray into it. Hence the disabled child tier art.

>>157328930
so... you expected to get good results on your try?

>>157327093
Flying enemies, you say?
>gargoyles
>ectoplasmic husks
>winged centipedes
>levitating druids
>slime bubbles
>miniature dragons
>evil pixies

>>157313429
The kerning between the S and T on the 'STARTS WITH' line looks like its a bit crushed in

>>157329049
No. Nowhere in my post did I even come close to implying that. Learn to read.

>>157328930
A good friend of mine taught me by example that you don't need to be good at making art to make art. Make your disabled child game and enjoy yourself.

>>157329190
Just stick to programming.

Have someone else handle the art.
Everyone can't be a 1MA.

>tfw not skilled enough to draw cute 2D girls

>>157327701
Why did you draw the game interface in Duke Nukem Forever

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>>157328257
>>157328930
Everyone says that. If you want to make art then make art even if it sucks. You'll get better the more you practice.
If you don't want to make art then don't make art.

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Now on use items can be activated with right click, this is not affected by the armor swapping with right click which is still unaffected

>>157327849
>Not owning a whiteboard to quickly jot ideas down on

look at this dev and laugh

>>157327701
I honestly can't read half of this.

>>157329190
you posted that "your art looks like a retarded four year old did it" which implies to me that you wanted to complain or just make a statement about your lack of skill in art.

>>157325881
I think you should make this your "jump cancel"

>>157329315
What are you going to do with cute 2d Girls? Give them a gun and shoot stuff?

>>157329564
>using a whiteboard
>not having loads of game_idea.txts in a folder

>>157328930
Who said that you are void of creativity, anon? Parents, relatives, friends? Don't let environment mold you into what it wants you to be.

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Will do another pass on the cockpit some other time. But otherwise I'm quite happy with it.

>>157329629
>Wanted to complain or just make a statement about your lack of skill in art
Correct. Neither of which is "I expected to be good the first time I did any art".