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>list of good comm. servers
http://pastebin.com/paW0DAG4

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf tf2outpost.com backpack.tf bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf scrapbank.me
Betting: saloon.tf
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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Shitpost.
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2nd for TF2posting
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buy my shit

its really bad

http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/51631
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So what community servers do you guys go on now Valve killed the server browser?
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>be me
>get matched into bad teams
>lose points
wtf stop it
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>>157226540
wtf i hate valve now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
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>>157227131
trader mains and comp autists ruined this game for everyone
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>he wears unusuals
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>>157227162
>you pay money to do missions and get a crate, but you need keys to open it update
Only reskins and cosmetics. Irrelevant.

>ebin "lets force epic queue for casual" update
OW has the same queue, if not worse.

>scream fortress 2016 update (more art style rape soon, even though it doesn't exist anymore)
You mean 2015? Yeah, agreed.
Thank god for the no hats mod, it's the only way to make this game playable.

>pyro w+m1 class pack (probably in 2018)
>heavy class pack (won't happen)
Irrelevant. Those are suppositions.

If we look at core gameplay tf2 has simply so much more to offer.
Any halloween update has been more fun than ow PvE brawl.
It gets boring after the first minute.
Think GhostFort or HellTower, that's plenty more fun.
Normal MvM? It is and it has always been much more creative than the horde mode OW introduced.

This OW update it's shit mate, I garantee you.
TF2 is still king even with all the shit that went down.
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So I wanted to see how many people still play TF2. >40k currently online
What? I thought there'd be way less players? If there are so many now, what was the peak? And why are so many servers gone or empty? It just doesn't feel like 40k people are playing the game..
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>>157229151
Most of them are afk bots
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whats the counter to a heavy with 2 medics followed everywhere by a good sniper in matchmaking when teammates arent available
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>>157229348
Run to teammates.
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>>157229654
they were literally always dead
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>>157229703
Die with teammates.
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>>157229348
The counter to healing is burst.

Kill the heavy or medics in a sticky trap. Or go for the sniper first.
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>>157229348
Spam scouts. Backcap.
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>>157229348
sound the cavalry horn
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"i see you ya mong" - the sniper

>>157233517
>>157233421
>>157229992
>>157229827
thank you i will keep these mind
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Your favorite classes and weapon loadouts you use. Last thread I got some interesting answers.

Engineer:
A: Gunman
>Widowmaker, Pistol, Gunslinger
Pretty much self-explanatory. Drop a Mini to somewhere hard to see, like just behind a wall then go outside and lure people in Mini-Sentry's sight to deal more damage to them for returning more metal per shot. When you're outta metal, you'll still have your Pistol and wrecked remainings of your Mini to supply metal.

B: Jagger
>Frontier Justice, Short Circuit, The Jag
The trick here is leveling up your sentry just once up to 2, then hauling it to redeploy ahead behind a cover and upgrade it to lvl3 when you plan on holding for long. In any case you expect your sentry to get destroyed since Jag can not outrepair damage incurred or drop a sapper in time, that's where FJ comes to the equation.

C: Classic
>Shotgun/Rescue Ranger, Wrangler, Southern Hospitality
Keep in mind even if RR/W combo is fun, RR is really weak against Spy. SH can refrain them from sneaking around but still you need to chase them with your shotgun. When you feel like you need to do something about Spy or enemy team is pushing, then it's time to swap for stock Shotgun.
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>>157234769
>wrecked remainings of your Mini to supply metal
Mini-Sentry gibs don't give any metal though
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>>157234769
>Medic
Crusader's Crossbow: My arrow game ridiculous. Sometimes
Kritzkrieg: 6+ Critical kills lighting up the killfeed is sexy as fuck
Ubersaw: Shitter unaware players means free build up

>Pyro
Festive Flamethrower: Reflects are fun. Lights are pretty
Detonator: Jumping high for flanks
Maul: Gotta save Engineer's buildings for that +1. One shots most buildings
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>>157234769
Soldier
A: Comp
>Original, stock, escape plan
good ol soldier, shotgun can finish off targets and do up to 80 damage

B: Jumper / special pocket
Liberty launcher / Batallion backup / whip
5 rockets is good for juggling and the batallion backup allows me to have 330 hp when fully buffed

C: Comp MMajor dick
Air strike / reserve shooter / pain train

D: Direct Miss
Direct hit / gunboats / market gardener

i only use A desu
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>>157234769
Sniper:
A: Stock
If I don't kill them at first with the rifle, then the SMG comes out and lands a couple shots. I'm decent with tracking with it anyways.

B: Bowman
>Huntsman, Various, Stock
I usually pair the Huntsman up with either an SMG or the Cozy Camper depending on how the team's playing and what they have. The regen on the Camper is really good if you're just getting chipped here and there.

C: For Fun
>Classic, Cleaner's Carbine, Tribal Man's Shiv
I really like using the Classic, it feels really refreshing to get a gibbed kill on someone. I usually pair it up with the Carbine so that I can boost the rifle to do more damage or the Shiv, which can be pretty good with minicrits.

D: Support
>Sydney Sleeper, Cleaner's Carbine, Bushwacka
Mostly if their team is crowding up a bunch and we've got a couple Demos/Soldiers. Works alright on Payload and KOTH maps.
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>>157234769
scout
a: no hat (stock stock basher)
kills

b: hat (stock stock basher)
kills with funny pirate hat and squid feet

c: medieval (stock milk/guillotine basher)
kills without gun

soldier
a: no hat (stock gunboats/shotgun escape plan)
kills

demo
a: no hat (stock stock stock)
kills

b: medieval (booties shield sword)
kills with funny pirate hat and no gun
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can someone please explain to me why queuing with others is a thing

how in the name of god is any team of randoms supposed to compete with 6 inbred children in a skype call who move as one unit?

why aren't there 2 separate queues, one for randoms and one for stacks? surely it would be better for everyone involved
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>>157234769
Soldier

A
Stock
Stock
EP

B
Stock
Gunboats
EP

Demo

A
Stock
Stock
Stock

B
Iron Bomber
Stock
Pain train

I don't use C and D
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i set myself a goal to win 2 matchmaking games in a row about 4 hours ago and im still yet to achieve it
how can human beings be as utterly blind and stupid as they are in a video game environment? it genuinely baffles me
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>casually play some casual matchmaking because valve pubs are dead
>literally only puts me in unwinnable games that are already ending

hello
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>>157238323
also
>literal child starts talking with his disgusting paulista accent
>votekick for cheating
>it passes despite the lack of boyim

ahh

little victories..
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>>157234769
Demo
A: Stock
>Stock

B: Reasonable unlocks
>iron bomber, quickiebomb, paintrain

C: Surprise rollout
>stock, stickyjumper, paintrain
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>>157238509
what about the actual victories?

haha wwoooooooops :p
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>>157239169
lol you own!
br pwned kkkkkkk
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>>157239169
kkkkkkk boa xerife
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>>157239294
>>157239238
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkmge?
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What is this general?
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>>157239581
kkk sai fora gringo
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im getting bullied in matchmaking
a guy who got 1 point in the entire game kept calling me an f2p noob and the enemy team made fun of my alias
help me i just want to win a game im about to derank
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>>157239873
Make a comeback by changing your alias to "Half-Left 2"
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i want to PLAY half l*f*
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>>157239581
/b4nny/ - I HATE IDIOTS and Pushing with 9hp General
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>On fire
>No health kits close enough to put me out
>Friendly pyro comes up
>Say "help"
>He spychecks me and runs off
I really hate this game sometimes.
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my tf2gfu is cute!
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whos your tf2gfu :o
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>>157241364
him
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>>157218578
No. Do you want to invite me in yours?
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>want to play some payload
>get on an attack map
>4 spies and 3 snipers
classic
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Post pubstomps.
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hello here are the victory
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>>157225618
do any of you guys still mann up?
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>>157242034
>More deaths than doms
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>>157242259
I do if there's a party. Post ID.
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>le random shit in the name xD
off yourself nignog
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>>157242386
>literally 8 sentries up at any given point

lissen here kiddo you may play for le kdr but i play for the win
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>>157242782
THIS IS WHY REI IS MY NIGGER

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK CAPTIAN
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>>157242708
what did she mean by this
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boy you should have seen my eric troll in that match just now
i played medic and BOY was this guy angry i wasnt healing him constantly so i stopped healing him at all and he started frothing at the mouth a bit
we won without him and there was even a guy in the other team telling me to follow orders which was CRAZY
if you like i can go into more detail so you can visualise the sequence of events better and understand just why it was so epic for my eyes
ah but theres my 3 win chain just as planned it only took me 7 hours
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>>157242782
>Dying to sentries
>As demo
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>>157242782
>he cant get good kdr and win
hmm really fires up those neurons
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>5 CP
>We have three engineers
>All immediately start building at last
>When we inevitably lose mid and 2nd they can't even keep a single sentry up for more than 10 seconds because they can't spycheck worth a shit
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>>157234769
for pubs? It's a tossup between Engineer and Pyro

Engineer's list
A. Defense Fort 2
>Rescue Ranger
>Wrangler/Short Circuit depends on how much of an asshole I feel like that evening
>Stock/Jag Normally I just run stock, but in case of bads or a solly/medic pair Jag it is

B. 200% Fun
>Frontier Justice
>Pistol/Short Circuit again, depends on how bad my day was
>Funslinger
No explanation needed. I join servers to kick ass and piss the hell out of everyone

C. No Spies allowed
>Stock
>Short Circuit
>Southern Hospitality
If an enemy spy is being a little bitch, this is my go-to loadout

D. Robot Anus breaker
>Rescue Ranger
>Wrangler
>Jag
reserved loadout for MvM usage

Pyro

A. Highlander Approved
>Degreaser
>Shotgun
>Powerjack
What more is there to say, this is the loadout for every pyro from UGC Iron to ESEA Invite

B. Stunlock: the loadout
>Stock
>Scorch Shot
>Homewrecker
I'm an asshole and I'm okay with this

C. Mobile little shit
>Backburner
>Detonater
>Powerjack
Flanking is a fun and balanced strategy :^)

D. Robot Anus burner
>Backburner/Phlog
>Flare gun/Scorch Shot
>Homewrecker
Tank intense game: Phlog. Less tanks more robots: Backburner
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>>157242673
I will mann it soon so let find time to post my id.
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New to tf2g.

Are there usually this much shitposters?
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>>157244248
i only come here when i play tf2 which is not often
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>>157244248
ye, but if there's an update we come back to life for a few hours then fall back into hibernation
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>>157244248
The worst ones are: Half Left, Assviper, & Based Viva.
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erics just played a comp game
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>>157244248
same as my boy hlaf lfet right here >>157244365

also

>>157243214
wtf man you're THROWING THE GAME

>be me
>be the sollyburd
>medical has the uberian
>deploys it on me
>move in to destroy a sentry nest that is poorly placed
>uberian fades
>look at medic
>he's running towards me desperately, dies
>"what the fuck was that"
>"sorry i lagged"
>tell him to kill himself and start a votekick on him

yeah fucking right you lagged

tilted SO FUCKING HARDDDDDDDDDDDDDD AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>157244248
run away
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>>157245794
nice pic, i had that saved before a few years ago and i don't have it now so thanks
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>>157245794
ewww, it's fag shit
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>>157246597
hey nice evelynn from the league of legends video game
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>>157245794
saved :^)
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I just pocketed a hatless less-than-10-hours pyro (Vacc) and gave every skilled player voicecommand 0 7 if they pressed E for half an hour.

How should I feel about myself?
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>>157247474
tf2 is better off now thanks to you
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i enjoy killing people with my factory new unusual scattergun
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>>157247474
>voicecommand 0 7
I didn't know we had a 0th voice menu
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>>157248089
voice command binds menus start counting at 0 for some reason
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Hey, kids. Hope you've all had a blessed and Based Wednesday :)
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>>157248786
Ohh as in how the game treats them, such as console commands and such? Interesting
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>Most kills on both teams
>Med still insists on pocketing a shitty heavy who can't even get a positive k/d
Every time.
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>>157248089
>>157248786
Voicecomms start counting at 0 because it's easier. http://www.howtogeek.com/149225/why-do-computers-count-from-zero/

It's cool stuff, but not my major. t. Biologist
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf2-MFCAU4M
b4nny changed so much
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>>157250893
He looks better without a beard.
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>>157242002
>look mom i have a medic
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>>157251420
>look mom i don't have a medic
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>>157251550
>look mom i dont have any friends and am suffering depression similar to how you were
>god mom i miss you
>look 4chan everyone moved on to overwatch
;~;
>>
ded
>>
i wish i were to
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>>157255618
I WISH YOU WOULD STEP BACK FROM THAT LEDGE MY FRIEND.
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yes
>>
no
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maybe
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i dont know
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can you ban these fucks now?
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team fortress two__________
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you only get a slap on the wrist for funposting
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id rather get a slap on the face
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>>157242259
I would if I had money
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Can I get a slap on the ass
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slap my hand!
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lewd
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i don't know if i'm on /vg/ anymore
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youre actually in /trash/
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>>157259116
do these ppl get banned do trash or to people literally just pos tin trash
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why don't people raffle anymore
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>>157259242
ye boi
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>>157259242
nah boi
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>>157259690
u 4got ur pic silliboiiii
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>>157259382
But i do
Expect some if i can't sell my shit by the time halloween rolls around
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Yay or Nay?
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why do shitters insist on playing sniper
even a 10 year old can learn sniper needs good aim to be effective after playing him for 2 minutes

plus 4 of them in one team is just wrong
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>>157260030
Wannabe australian
It's alright
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>>157260030
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>>157260098
yeah but imageigne that 4 snipesr are wathcing phallway
their combined damage is lieke 1800
thats more than any other class can dom damage liket thignk about it mannn
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I think people play whatever they want to play.
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>>157260371
Are you drunk or something
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>>157260542
nooman
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>>157260098
There's days where I really want to play Sniper or Spy but can't because there's always like 2+ of the team as soon as the round begins.

>>157247474
Vaccinator can make shit teammates into good ones if you can resist correctly, and they don't just go on suicide missions.
Really good for getting past sticky traps if your team is dumb enough to funnel through one door.
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>demo was supposed to have champ stamp
>it was clipping
>so instead of fixing the clipping, they just didnt include it

ehhhhh??????
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>>157259812
no i did not you dumb nigger wannabe
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>>157260030
it's alright
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>>157260732
I do know how to resist properly

I main Morphling in Dota 2
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>>157261098
you forgot your trip viva
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>>157260030
it is NOT alright
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>>157261379
I never forget my trip. Never post without it
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http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=24805
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=24805
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=24805
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>>157262963
wow it's fucking nothing
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>>157262963
>Awoo
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>>157262963
>Awooo, folks!
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>>157263128
new maps with new contracts is fun I guess
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airblast is a terrible mechanic and will never work in the confines of tf2.

meanwhile, the base flamethrower (without airblast) is one of the best weapons for a game like tf2.

pyro does not require intense aiming skill like a sniper, but you need game sense to get close and do damage. You have to outsmart your opponents (assuming you dont have the airblast)

if valve adds a new flamethrower for the pyro, I hope they make it about napalm and have no airblast altogether
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>>157262963
>Awooo
DELET T HIS
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>>157263223
>>157263224
>posted at the same time
>post numbers are right after eachother
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>>157263270
the new maps and weapon updates are the best stuff
idc if they arent adding a new crate or boss monster or whatever, those things are kind of boring
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>>157262963
>new contracts

nice fucking scam

i hate you guys for enabling this trash
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>>157262963
>http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=24805
>awoo
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https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/e/e6/Sf14_merasmus_minigame_soccer_start_03.wav?t=20141030033837
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>>157263762
cringe
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>>157262963
Will it Spell, that is the question...
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>been a few months since playing TF2
>still no strange tide turner
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We better fucking get spells this year, holy shit.
It was the main thing I was looking forward to last year, but we didn't get jack shit.
I'm not going to pay out the ass for this shit just so I can have pretty effects from my hats.
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>http://www.teamfortress.com/

>but what if that sound was coming from INSIDE YOUR OWN BODY? Because there’s a SKELETON in there RIGHT NOW?

What did they mean about this?
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>>157262963
>Next week, as always, every past Scream Fortress event will rise from the dead to terrorize your computers
>Next week, as always, every past Scream Fortress event will rise from the dead
>Next week, as always
>Next week
I guess that means on November 2nd.
Also:
>an all-new Pyro Pack
Wonder what the new weapons are gonna be.
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>>157262963
> We’ll also be shipping some community Halloween maps
I'm ok with this.

>all-new custom contracts for those maps
I'm still fine with this.

>a new Halloween taunt
>Valve made or what? Hoping all-class.

>a new item that gives unusual effects to taunts
Interesing.

>and a new cosmetics case!
>case
Fuck you.
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w-what's going on here?
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>>157264190
jill probably wrote it
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>>157265470
jill yourself
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Taunts are going to rise in price then?
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>>157265794
jill sandwhich on my dick
>>
We should be glad guys, in dota 2 they cancelled all their events. A dev itself said that it wasnt going to be halloween event this year on reddit.
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I'm guessing leddit is either throwing a shit fit about a rehash of last year... or patting themselves on the back for a blog post that was likely to happen regardless of their usual bitching while "talking" to Valve in comments like entitled brats as usual.
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does anyone else get huge lag whenever people use mic chat
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i want to frag jill in the pussy
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>>157268072
Yeah, some things are going to happen anyways. Its true that if you post something there and it gains popularity, they might consider it to be in the game, also most bugs that reach frontpage gets fixed fast. Some of them, like the crouching one in csgo, can take a while to get fixed.
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Are gifts returning this year? I miss jewing potions for chump change on the community market.
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>>157268732
we dont know anything
valve rarely tells community about whats coming
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>>157268732
I hope so. No one wants to pay 20+ keys for a shityt effect.
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>>157260832
I'm still really upset at this fact.
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>>157269056
Yeah, the price is ridiculous
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Why can't tf2 have any fappable waifus?
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>mfw bought a strange killstreak iron bomber for a key when it came out
>look up the price
>its 2 keys now

lol
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>>157268072
People on the tf2 reddit are so fucking retarded. They cried about volvo not listening to their feedback for months and when they finally caved, look what happened. Maybe 1 out of 20 matches gets a rematch. All the other times it's just wasted time. Manually quitting and signing up for the next match is faster even without it, because of the post match screen. Like 50% of people just disconnect after matches, because everything else is just fucking tedious. Watch them take a fucking year to admit that to themselves.
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>>157269457
hudduh huddeh huh
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>>157269457
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Are we going to have to que up for Halloween maps too? I liked just server jumping.
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>>157269589
Pauling is lame
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>que up
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copypasting this because i'm too lazy to type again

Shadilay! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ: >swat man out of the sky EASILY
Shadilay! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ: >he kills me later
Shadilay! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ: >taunts
Shadilay! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ: >says "accept it"
Shadilay! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ: ?
Shadilay! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ: what did he actually mean by that
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>que up
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>>157270418
shut up retard
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>que up
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Im glad Im leaving my shithole before rei does
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leave my shithole
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>>157270358
>>157270418
>>157270532
>>157270931
>>157271015
>>157271275
>>157271353
what did they mean by this
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>8 (You)'s
nice
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>>157271483
see post number 5771958 on the /trash/ board from 4chan.org
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>>157271749
you mean
>>>/trash/5771958
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>>157262963
Did they put the wrong date on the post
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>>157262963
>But that doesn’t mean Halloween’s cancelled. Next week, as always, every past Scream Fortress event will rise from the dead to terrorize your computers for a limited, horrifying time, including last year’s Merasmissions.
>Next week

Wait, so the Halloween update is next week then? That's quite early.
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>>157272670
Yes. Unless it was privately posted then made public, which I doubt.
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http://www.teamfortress.tv/36903/tf2-update-for-10-12-16-10-13-16-utc
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>>157272985
>Ongoing improvements to the matchmaking backend to improve match quality and reduce wait times

yeah sure
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>>157225618
ever since i went premium i no longer get weapon drops. i used to get a new weapon every other match it seems like but now after a good 30 matches all ive gotten are 2 cosmetic cases. what the fuck is going on? am i not going to get weapon drops now or something?
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>>157272985
wow it's fucking nothing
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>>157229151
>>157229212
probably this. im thinking the same shit too, there is no fucking way. every time i queue there are 600 players worldwide in casual, 400 players worldwide in competitive, and about 40 30 person servers and that is all. if you play official mann vs machine, there are 0 players nearby, 100 worldwide. there are more in community but not much more, you can get a game going. this is some scummy shit, i wouldn't be surprised if it is less than 3000 players at any time
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please bring back spells volvo
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>>157273301
You have a weekly limit on drops, you've been playing more so you ran out faster
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>>157242259
i bought one of these and i already regret it, literally 0 players nearby, worst 99 cents ive ever spent in my life
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So will the taunt unusualfier be existing unusual effects or ~Spooky New Effects~
Because I want Skill Gotten Gains on my Posedown.
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>>157273490
shut the fuck up thole
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>>157273606
>Not lobbying with friends
Retard
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Will the new cosmetics be unrestricted again?
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>>157274014
who cares, they were awful last year
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FUCK i need to buy more taunts for this unusual shite, but i don't think i have enough metal to get all of em
what should i prioritize?
the broom one and mannrobics because they're all class and don't have effects yet?
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>>157274097
There were some decent ones last year. The stunt suit for the scout and the roboot were pretty nifty
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>>157274150
What's going on? Why do you need to buy Taunts?
>>
it is ALWAYS faster to heal with a medigun than using crossbow to heal at any and every situation, fuck all of you crossbow players useless sacks of shit
>>
So what does this matchmaking survey ask you? Because they're biasing it if it's only limited to actually playing matchmaking.
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>>157274150
I'd get the Heavy one, it doesn't have unusual effects yet and it's the only heavy taunt
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>>157274216
literally incorrect
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>>157273720
my friends don't own the pass and aren't going to buy it to play a dead game mode, it isn't even that enjoyable with friends because only medic and demoman are viable and everything else is a secondary pick
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>>157272985
>- If you're selected, you'll be asked the following: "Please rate the quality of the match you just played:"
>- Options from worst to best are: Horrible, Bad, Neutral, Good, Great

I'll make sure I vote horrible every time
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>>157274298
mathematically the best crossbow player in the world misses 60 percent still, it is more reliable and therefore faster to heal with the medigun. inb4 that one and only one crossbow webm of a lucky shot that saved a demomans life, maybe if there was more than one video like that in all of 4 years it wouldn't be as useless as i claim
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>>157274878
this isn't funny

shut up
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>>157274878
What is
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>>157274878
0w0
>>
What content do YOU want to see in TF2?
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>>157275196
I would honestly prefer they delete content. Some of the more artstyle breaking hats, a lot of the shitty halloween cosmetics, the removal of a vast majority of non-stock weapons, etc.
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more hats
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>>157274878
see
>>157263223
>>157263224
>>157263453
>>157263621
>>157263762
>>157264151
>>157265373
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>>157275304
that wasnt the question you stupid bitch
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>>157275362
>what content do you want to see in tf2
>only the good content
>hurr durr that wasn't the question
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>>157275196
Make certain hats take up two cosmetic slots instead of one. Ex: Max's, Potassium Bonnet, HOUWAR.

It would seriously help clean up all the visual clutter in tf2.
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>>157275735
The cosmetic unlock has done nothing good, i wish we were back to hat+misc+misc
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>>157275196
extra cosmetic slot
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>>157275971
there is no reason to even have a slot limit anymore, lets go full gaia online with shitty unlocks
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>>157275196
all cosmetics become freely able to be equipped with each other
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>>157275196
remove casual matchmaking
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>>157275735
this

then make one of the cosmetic slots only work with badges
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>>157275196
give scout half zatoichi and rename him to genji
probably add some weebshit miscs too
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>>157275196
Deathmatch mode
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>>157275196
Remove 100% of the visual clutter by deleting 90% of the fucking retarded hats
A new class that is just demoknight but it's own class and move all demoknight weapons to that class
More demoman weapons to demoman
Another cosmetic slot
Stricter guidelines on what can be added from the community and less favoritism from Valve
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>ywn have a pybro girlfriend to hunt down spahs with

Why must we want things we cannot attain?
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>>157277297
i also like the SL8
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>>157277297
the favouritism is because they know they can trust them. If there weren't assholes who stole shit they wouldn't.
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>>157277803
>favouritism
>assholes
>shit

can u fucking decide?
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>>157262963
>a new item that gives unusual effects to taunts
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>>157277726
Personally I hate the look with the grey plastic and the full length rail with just the barrel, that one I posted with the shortened rail, suppressor and white plastic looks a lot better.
Also if it were .308 that'd get me rock fuckin hard.
Also it was the first thing in my images that I clicked

I would like to see a heavy TF2 mod that would incorporate what TF2 was originally supposed to be with the newer characters, art styles, and playstyles.
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>>157262963
>a new item that gives unusual effects to taunts
>Posedown
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>>157277292
tf2c is a best tf2
I still fondly remember map breaking bugs and being autistic
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>>157262963
>all-new custom contracts
>and a new cosmetics case!

all hope is lost

valve betrayed us

crates will never return
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>>157278994
call me when tf2c has more than 24 active players combined from all servers
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>>157278994
>Lateralus
Good music taste
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>>157279148
See you last January then
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>>157279465
yeah thats what i thought
a real shame
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oppa pootis style
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xd potty poot
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>>157275196
arena matchmaking
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>>157275196
Some love for the Vaccinator. It will never be used in higher level of competitive play at it's current state.
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>>157281332
fuck the vaccinator
I hope it forever stays useless
t. sniper main who has seen one too many -13s
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>>157281445
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>>157274769
>things I make up the post
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>>157281445
>Peek corner for 0.01s
>Head removed
Yeah Sniper obviously needs less counters.
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MM numbers are in free fall and valve releases a survey to see if people are liking it lmao
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vaccinator needs to be its own type of weapon type like huntsman or force-a-nature

that way they can tweak it without being limited by its medigun nature, as well as add new mechanics to it
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Does anyone else get big FPS drops when playing pyro? I know it's not my computer, it's far overqualified to run tf2. But I can hardly ever play pyro because any time I light someone up I drop to like 15fps. I don't know what to do about it.

I haven't played in a year.
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>>157281994
Not sure why they didn't just make the fucking crossbow into the vaccinator ffs.
5,10,15 seconds of buffs and small amounts of healing on hit or some shit would've been SO much better.
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>>157262963
>Fixed air-blasts sometimes sending deflected projectiles in random directions when the Pyro is close to enemy players
>Fixed a case where players could use the Halloween teleport spell to get outside the map
THANK YOU GABEN

>Players will now be randomly selected to participate in a survey at the end of Casual and Competitive matches

what did they mean by this?
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>>157282485
Why would they make the best medic primary even better
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>>157270294
say that to my face not online fucker, and see what happens
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>>157282689
I meant to say make a crossbow into it, not the crossbow. Sorry.
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>>157281994
It already is it's own type of weapon with the resistance switching. It certainly takes a lot more skill then just waiting for someone to tell you when to pop uber/kritz. It's sad that the medigun with the highest skill ceiling is also the most underpowered medigun.
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My medigun is powered by tears.
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>>157275196
>>157280684
^This^

I miss Offblast and Watchtower.

>>157281445
>mfw I use the Vacc more than Stock when in pubs
>mfw I pocket gibus snipers on 2fort with the Vacc
>mfw I pop all four Vacc charges to run at good snipers and crit them with my Ubersaw for a free fifth charge
>mfw I do this all just to piss off faggots like you and it works
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>>157282095
what's your processor run at (GHz)? TF2 is murder on the processor, especially Pyro's flames.
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>>157282916
no, its still a medigun
i meant like a new class of weapon

like the double barreled shotgun for scout instead of his lever action shotguns

or the bow for sniper that replaces his rifle

same thing with the vaccinator, it needs to have its own weapon type so that devs could assign whatever stats they want to it instead of being limited by its medigun type
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>>157283458
3.5, I've never had a problem before. Been playing for years and even back when I was on a toaster/laptop I didn't have an issue like this one. It's just bizarre.

By the way, it's only when I light someone on fire. Other pyros don't cause this. There are zero fps drops from spraying fire at nothing, or from people only burning, or even from other pyros lighting people up. It's solely when I hit someone with flames and it stops when I let go of m1.
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>>157283965
https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/57760o/cause_and_fix_for_serious_fpsdrop_issue_involving/
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>>157283351
You are the definition of a cuck for doing this. You watch other people play and have fun and enjoy watching.
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>>157284017
Thanks
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>>157283965
If it's only when you light people on fire, then It's probably the flamebox math hitting your cpu. That shit's intense. Try validating the install files, or reinstalling TF2 entirely

>>157284045
>You watch other people play and have fun and enjoy watching.

What did he mean by this?
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>>157284148
>What did he mean by this?
>mfw I pocket gibus snipers on 2fort with the Vacc

You are one of those medics that stands by snipers on 2fort and watches them snipe
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>>157284220
I don't hide, I taunt the other snipers by running around like a madman. It's hilarious to watch them 1. miss half their shots 2. get bodyshot by a gibus while focusing on me
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>>157284458
Is watching playing?
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>>157284617
I'm enjoying myself, and I don't always go to 2fort. I enjoy fucking with snipers on other maps too. I've also got a buddy that plays scout in UGC Gold (6s). We apply our Gibuses and go to town. After about half the enemy team is playing Demoknight, I put on the QF and we rape them even harder.
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>>157285020
Scout does all the work and you watch
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>>157285193
Nigga have you even used the Vaccinator? The Vacc is the most complex weapon in TF2, and possibly all of the FPS genre. You fuck up a resistance, and you're basically dead. It takes a high degree of skill and concentration to keep such a fragile class alive, especially with the reduced Overheal and Uber build rate.
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>>157285520
>1 button
>skill

>zero aiming involved
>zero prediction involved
>zero risk
>hold left button and watch the game around you being played by other players
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>>157285747
alright, how about you take a friend and keep him alive with the vacc for 10+ minutes at a time
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>>157285810
I'd rather play the game
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>>157285852
I am playing the game dumbass
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>>157286045
>>157284617
>>
What happened to tf2g? Why is there actual tf2 discussion
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>>157286259
they're aguring about the vac rn
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>>157286259
this is actually the first time in days actual tf2 discussion has happened
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>>157286259
>>157286483
Shhh don't spoil it
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lamo vac is trash

DRAWINGS UPDATE dodsyt isn t cute HAHA FRAGEED NOBB pottis xd
Cashiers do the bagging themselves though WHY WOULD YOU PSUH WITH NINE HEALTH
I DID NOT PAY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS ETC

pottis
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>>157286806
It's already over, Anon
>>
DOTSY
IS
CUTE
AS
FUCK
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>>157287034
Sniff. We can always remember the good times.
>>
does human still pots here

does shuckle still pots here

does 26 still post here

does gasol still pots here

does dotsy sill post her
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>>157287115
>not limescout.jpg

one job
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>Just spent the last hour trying to figure out how to install my torrent of Microsoft Office
I feel ashamed and even now I don't think it worked.
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>>157287115
post medical men in remembrance of this momentous occasion, and guess how many hours in TF2 do based on the loadout
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>>157287145
who cares
who cares
who cares
who cares
who cares
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>>157287170
you rang?
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>>157275196
More australiums. I love gold things. Crate with Nebula effect on regular hats.
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>>157275196
I just want:
Pyro
>Flamethrower gameplay is dull, flamer particles are never a good damage dealer
"sigsegv" shown a few good examples of how it can be fixed or treated.
>old flamers need more affixes or there should be at least two-three new different flamethrower
Jet boosting like shooting or airblasting propels you backwards or straight up to air. Reflected fullcrit projectiles. Increased after burn damage?
>some weapons needs more pseudo nerfs
I'm tired of seeing every damn Pyro using Powerjack, Reserve/Detonator and Degreaser. Buff other stuff if nerfs to specific weapons (without breaking them) aren't enough.

Heavy
I think Heavy is pretty much content as it is, as a Heavy main.
>As an initiator class you can never act alone
I think we need some new secondary or melee affixes like short duration life regeneration after lunchbox use or slower overheal decay when we equip a melee. Only Dalokoh's can boost us when we are alone, it's still nice but just not enough.
>Slow movement speed makes you an open target
All your hope is out-healing the splash damage. We need a good deal of buff on our movement speed or there must be a way to make us more elusive. A new minigun that generates smoke around you? Hah I wish.

Hybrid classes:
Mai waifu classes 101 I'll take "things that Valve will never comply" for 300$
- Pauling
>Hybrid between Spy and Scout, preferably a fast girl with small but high caliber pistols and deadly poisons
- Zhanna
>Hybrid between Heavy and Soldier. Lightning gun anyone? Her melee can be a robotic cannonball hand like Gunslinger.

Others:
>Engineer didn't get any good updates in ages.
>Medic feel like it needs a few touches to the Vaccinator
>Demoman started to look silly with all Demoknight melee shit on him. Why I feel gimped when I try to use a melee as a normal Demoman with Stickybomber?
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>>157291101
none of these are good
>>
>>157291101
>Engineer didn't get any good updates in ages.
Firstly, go back to English school, and second; did you forget Gun Mettle, Tough Break and MyM happened? Engi was given a shitload of changes.
>>
the scottish resistance is surprisingly fun. it makes demoman a much more cerebral class to play, and honestly probably what the class was intended to be like when the stickybomb launcher was designed.
>>
>>157292297
bot only when playing defensively, if you and your team are pushing 2nd or mid, put on stock or the Quickie
>>
>Join a casual match
>Stabbystabby is on the other team
>Steamrolls my retards
>Meanwhile my knife does 5 40 damage (((back)))stabs in a row
sick
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>>157287145
>Human
Good, kinda weird
>Shuckle
Cool guy the few times I talked to him
>26
Cool guy, made him a pfp once
>Gasol
Dropped off the fucking deep end into insanity
>Dotsy
Literally who
>Tfw you will never talk to all the cool tf2gs you talked to 3 years ago
>Tfw the fun times are gone
I just wanna fucking end it man everything is going downhill, the last three years especially. I've wasted so much time I could've done so much and not even the people I enjoy talking to are still around.
I'm losing touch with everything and I don't know how to advance I can't stop God why did you do this to me.

At least I still have my BK is a fag
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when will valve add cp_orange to the competitive map rotation?
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>>157295143
>Human
>Good, kinda weird
Stopped reading there.
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>queue
>rainbow of ranks on the other team, nothing but rank 1~20s on mine (and one medic, jose.gonzales2004, who only rushes forward while firing his syringe gun)
>requeue
>ALERT! THE LAST CONTROL POINT IS BEING CONTES-- YOU FAILED! *KACHINK*
>requeue
>5CP, Engineer-stack stalemate that's 30+ minutes in progress and still 0 - 0
>repeat

every fucking night
>>
>Please rate the quality of the match you just played
wow it's literally overwatch now
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>>157295696
>Casual matches now more strongly prefer to distribute players to teams based on experience, in order to better avoid creating one-sided matches

thank you valve :))
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There's no hope for this game anymore is there.
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>>157296132
"AWOOOO" has been in a shit ton of previous Halloween blogposts and update pages, what the fuck are you talking about
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>>157265373
>>157263223
>>157263224
>>157263621
>>157263762
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How can TF2 possibly compete
>>
>>157299429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLkZY8GjdRw
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>>157300395
Having better gameplay.
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>read blogpost
>get the impression that they actually care
>remember that these are the same people who removed quickplay

Am I the only one getting mixed messages here?
>>
>>157300728
It depends and what exactly they do for Halloween. If they don't bring back the old gifts then I'm losing what little faith I had left.
>>
>>157300846
>if they don't let me farm items for dank profit then Im losing all faith
>>
>>157300979
I never got the Saxton Hale mask. I'd like to do that at some point.
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>>157301027
Can't you just buy them?
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>>157301071
>buy
Oy vey.
There's also an achievement for crafting it.
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>scout main
>always wear the Bootie Time
>on global chat server
>48 ks
>enemy team start trying to track me
>hide around stuff, moving back and forth
>"Oh god I think hes around here..."
>tfw they start going so paranoid they refuse to split from groups and start backing into walls
>Im still hidden, jiggling all the way

This is the true Halloween
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>>157301280
>Implying you're good enough to scare even a random pyro
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>>157301539
Whats my name?
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>>157300395
TF2's Wave 666 being the first and the more challenging of the two
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Speaking of 666

tf2g should do it again
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>>157287010
i like this post
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>>157262963
STEVE BUSCEMI’S SKELETON
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>>157287010
You forgot the comma, though
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>>157299429
why didnt you quote my post >>157263453
that was rude
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>>157300395
After having played years of MvM, this was stupid easy, even on hard difficulty like all of Overhyped. But I also queued up with three other friends so that may have made it easier than intended
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>>157301623
Francis.
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>>157303807
Oh my GOD
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>>157291960
>go back to English school
Knob off you tosspot.
>Engi was given a shitload of changes.
Only changes, not content update. If you're happy with tweaks, good for you.
>>
when are they gonna release some new cosmetics?

circlejerkers love to hate on them (even though they're obsessed with unusuals) but lets face it, weapon updates are fucking useless, NO ONE uses new weapons for very long. the meta cannot be changed at this point. with the stock rocket launcher i can still kill every soldier using any other variant easily

theres more than enough content on the workshop now to give us some dope cosmetics
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>>157300846
>>157300979
I don't care about the spells, I want to complete my untradable 2013 item collection
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>Wanting either new cosmetics or new weapons
How about we just leave all that garbage as it is and simply add new maps or contracts instead?
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>>157306868
Next week.

Learn to read.
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>>157306868
>NO ONE uses new weapons for very long
Are you for fucking real right now
Maybe it's because they last time they added new weapons they weren't anything special, but before that every time an update was released you'd find servers full of people with no idea on how to use them running around
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>>157306868
no one that knows some shit about the game (fortunately most people here) wants new weapons, what the fuck are you talking about
more cosmetics is more shit.give us optimization and a decent mm system
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>>157306954
read where? i only check update logs and there wasnt anything for a loooooooooong time

>>157306974
yes, and then getting killed a lot because the weapons are useless
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>>157307019
literally the most common complaint last year "waaa valve just gives us cosmectics, where r de weapons!! we wunt weapons!!!!"

this year i havent followed much because the game went to shit t b h, here where i live their incredible new matchmaking system pretty much killed off all players, right when the game was getting crowded again

also optimization's never gonna happen
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>>157307025
THE OFFICIAL TF2 WEBSITE
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>>157307117
>the most common complaint
the only people that cry about no new weapons are clueless fucks who want something "new" or whatever like people youtube videos and their comments
i bet even reddit probably knows adding more weapons is a stupid idea
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>>157307230
ive only seen the halloween post announcing a "big update" but nothing specific. anyway if youre talking about that mayan shit im not very interested

theres tons of cosmetics on the workshop that actually fit the thematic of the game and look dank but they keep adding memey shit
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>>157307340
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>>157307472
it really says something about yourself that you took the time to make that

its very sweet, thanks
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>>157307534
If you think that took any significant amount of time to make then your computer skills are as lacking as your reading skills.
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>>157307593
its not so much about the time itself but the fact you had to open the program, paste and cut the text bits, organize and circle them, then google an ironic image to put beneath it, then i imagine cutting the extra blank spaces out of the picture, then you were somehow still asspained enough about something i cant figure out to try and make another dig at me

i mean it really does say something about yourself
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>>157307719
L
O
L

I was right.
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>>157307719
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>157307801
let me guess, this is the part where your pride is kinda hurt so you keep replying to me even though youre not talking about the game anymore, because youd feel very ashamed if you didnt get the last answer, but you have nothing else to say, so its kinda awkward, and deep down you wish you could just stop, but its kind of a compulsion, and youre really just being a cunt because youre deeply unhappy and you spend way too much time in this thread, but you dont know how to get out, and more importantly, you cannot seem to stop caring about this dying, shitty game, which in turns makes you more bitter?

i mean, really, says something about yourself.
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>>157307993
>>
post loadouts where you abuse unlocks

>Scout
>crit-a-cola, atomizer
major scunt coming through

>demoman
>loch & load, quickiebomb
loch & load travels further than normal pipes

>pyro/soldier
>reserve shooter
extremelly underrated by the average player
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>>157307967
literally nothing, im gonna say some real shit, not even joking

its pretty telling that so many people here get mad so easily, i asked if there were cosmetics coming and someone said yes, thats it. now look at this guy >>157308087, hes still bleeding, still hurting, for no reason.

not even joking but thats not healthy. it may seem ironic but its not. go outside, masturbate or something, this can ruin a person. i personally theorize this is the reason so many men on 4chan complain about balding early, stress related and such
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>>157282614
technically, the airblast sending the rockets in "random" directions when you put your crosshair in the enemy is just a product of raytracing, not strictly a bug. i guess the raytracing will now ignore even enemy players when you reflect

>Ongoing improvements to the matchmaking backend to improve match quality and reduce wait times
spent 20 minutes yesterday searching comp mm without luck. nice ongoing improvements there.
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>>157307534
>>157307719
>>157307993
>>157308184
>all this projection
jesus dear christ save me, im dying
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>>157308184
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>>157308184
So you are an autist.

Alright
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>>157308249
>>157308321
>>157308340
Why are you all so buttmad? Is it because I'm smarter than you?
So angry
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>>157308249
you're not dying, youre overexaggerating something which you didnt even really find funny for some shitty need to fit in, and also the inability to respond to me properly

>>157308340
you can stay mad all you want, but ill keep replying normally just like i was when talking about the game, and i got another two or three hours here, so really, its cool.
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>>157308402
Not smart enough to read, apparently.
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>>157308402
>>157308430
>being so angry about his inability to read that he starts double posting
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>>157308517
>>>157308402
>>>157308430(You)
>>being so angry about his inability to read that he starts double posting

>believing someone that doesnt even write like me
>calling my intelligence into question

i mean, it really says something about yourself.
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>>157308402
come on, youre not even trying to sound like him
though you portrayed his mindset pretty perfectly

>>157308430
i wasnt gonna give you a (You) but you deserve it
i need to know who you are
youre my favourite shitposter now
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>>157308572
im glad we got to the part where you really cannot respond to me in any way, shape or form, yet you still hold on to some false sense of superiority and try to call me a shitposter even though i was specifically talking about the game

gotta protect that safe space in your head, right? no one can truly challenge you my man, if they do, its just a joke
>>
It really says something about yourself that you call into question my intelligence and ability to read. I am so much more intelligent than anyone here. I didn't even read the blog post, I had worked out the gist of it months ahead while waiting for my lab to come up with harder maths questions. It really says something about yourself that you are so mad about how smart I am. Go satisfy your primal base desires and calm down. As a doctor I can tell you it is not healthy.
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>>157308748
it really says something about yourself that you got too scared to address that to me properly and instead just tried to make a loose dig like a bitch
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>>157308681
dude im not even him
im not trying to feel superior to you
in fact, i almost admire you in a way. all those posts are amazing and i wish i could write stuff as good as you, you totally got me pissed off for a second there
i used shitposter as a way flattering you too
and come on, the longer you drag a joke the more obvious it becomes that youre not serious
just please tell me who you are
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>>157309018
a) i never said you were him, you write dumber like me

b) im glad we got to the part where you realize you have no chance of actually replying to me, so you try to pretend youre finding everything very funny in that sarcastic, completely insincere way, all the while secretly hoping i stop posting to protect your weak sense of pride and save your ass from having to deal with a situation you put yourself in

but its totally hilarious though, im laughing here (but not really)
>>
Shut up faggots
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What are nice-looking meme scout cosmetics set ups?
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>>157309131
>it really says something about yourself
>yet
>talking about the game
>stay mad
>its pretty telling
>get mad
>i personally
>to the part
>stop posting
>pride
>situation

There. Now try making a post without using any of these parsed sentences or words.
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>>157309131
why arent you laughing
:(
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>>157309226
it really says something about yourself that you try to censor my speech because youre unable to reply to it, all while still being unable to produce a single thought that could save yourself

i was talking about the game, stay mad, its pretty telling you cannot accept youre mad, i will personally keep replying to the part where you stop posting, and lose your entire pride in this situation
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>>157309226
It really says something about yourself that you would give me such a childish challenge, yet I am unsure as to why you would do so. I was merely talking about the game. Its pretty telling that you are so mad. I personally take pride in my ability to not get mad.

Lets get to the part where you stop posting.
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>>157309337
because youre an insincere person and you think pretending to be amused gives you sort of a shield that makes you cooler. ever seen a woman arguing? when they start fake laughing and such, and making "boohoo" faces like a kid? youre just like that. being in this general for some years now id guess its probably because youre gay though.

>>157309424
i never use the big letters
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>>157309569
>i never use the big letters
>Big letters
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>>157309226
it really says something about yourself that youre still replying to me yet youre not giving any arguments or talking about the game. stay mad bro, its pretty telling that youre romantically into me since you get mad at me so easily
i personally love that we got to the part where i stop posting about our argument and confess my love to you and my gay pride
its a very cute situation
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>>157309569
im not trying to be cool or funny or whatever
im not even arguing
i just wanna know who you are PLEASE
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>>157309569
>making faces like a kid
>i never use the big letters
Literally a child. Sorry for bullyin you kiddo. You want a cookie?
>>
the only one i can think of this dude being is dotsy but i dont think hes able to write such long complex paragraphs
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>>157309703
>>157309817
its pretty great when people who think theyre being le funny banters miss obvious jokes

need i say what this does in relation to you as a person?

>>157309814
youre just posting the same thing over and over now, so ill use this as an opportunity to bring awareness to this issue

look, being mad on the internet is really easy. on this website, it can become routine. but its really, really not healthy for you. i mean for you, not me, because i have an amazing life, but you guys come across as a bit sad for me. maybe youre lonely and youre just enjoying the attention my constant replies are giving you. maybe its at that level already. so let me say: thanks for letting me know there will be cosmetics, i really appreciate it. it meant something to me. not a lot, but a little bit, and you kinda ruined it afterwards, but there, at that moment, it meant something.

now stop being so sensitive if you dont wanna go bald at 25
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>>157310361
Green horses are unnatural.
>>
So when is Hiroshimoot going to ban the entirety of South America from posting?
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Who else /jumpedshipfromtff2tooverwatch/ here?

latest Overwatch patch
>added over 100 new Halloween-themed items, including sprays, icons, skins, victory poses, emotes, and highlight intros
>added a new PvE co-op gamemode with three different difficulty levels
>added a spooky version of an existing map
>added leaderboards to show the top 500 players in a certain region, and friend leaderboards to show where you stand amongst your buddies, and leaderboards for the current Halloween event

latest TF2 patch
>Players will now be randomly selected to participate in a survey at the end of Casual and Competitive matches

God, it feels so fucking good to know I jumped ship to the superior game right from the start. Blizzard adding shittons of free content whilst Valve are adding surveys to TF2 and limited usage temporary paid sprays (only 50 sprays that last 7 minutes per can, better buy some more :^) to CSGO. Meanwhile in Overwatch I'm getting free loot boxes with skins and shit in every few matches whilst Valvedrones are having to pay real money after already paying real money just to get temporary sprays lmao. Can't make this shit up famalams
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>>157311125
>>
so uhh
yeah
tf2 is fun
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I'm in a pickle, what should i do?
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>>157311125
And in return for all those nice cosmetic bells and whisles all you had to give up was more open maps, a high skill ceiling, community servers, the ability to actually look unique, a trade economy, a competitive scene, depth, artistic cohesion, 60 bucks and about 6gb of ram.
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>>157311404
If you were going to CnD in there, might as well used a disguise knife instead of stock.
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>>157311404
Its a gibus engineer he will be easy just bait the heavy as a blue demoman so he would leave the room.
Then post results.
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>>157311404
play demo
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>>157311404
quit the game
uninstall
throw your pc out the window
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>>157311480
>artistic cohesion
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>157311125
>sprays
>not just letting players upload any image as spray
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>>157311672
>>157311626
>>157311581
>>157311567
I looked at what you said and i was going to do that but a scout with our briefcase came in, capped, i uncloaked out of the blue, got killed and they all congoed around

GG
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>>157312049
do this now >>157311672
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>>157313001
tell me about muselk

why does he wear the hat
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>all this namefagging and tripfagging

TF2 in a nutshell desu.
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>>157313083
to point
and to shoot
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>>157313336
>Implying this is anything exceptional
i want newfags to shut uppp
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>>157311998
>trying to say this when valve is charging for sprays on csgo and sprays dont even work on community servers on tf2
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>>157313540
>b-b-b-but cs:go
We're not talking about cs:go

Sprays are working perfectly fine on the community servers I browse.
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>>157313540
>and sprays dont even work on community servers on tf2
lol wut, yes they do
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>>157313336
what
who's name and tripfagging
>>
>>157314397
Hi
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>>157314607
hello
your last post was 4 hours ago
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>>157314705
Maybe the guy was looking through the thread's last 5 hours. Iunno
>>
I played tf2
I was solder
I had nice medic on team
I thanked them
we were happy
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>>157314114
we're talking about valve as a whole

you mentioned a non valve game
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>>157314607
>>157314809
Why do you use a name and tripcode on an anonymous imageboard?
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>>157316540
>why do you use a feature of this website
bruh
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>>157309219
Tossle Cap, digit divulger and something like the flapjack.

then paint everything lime green
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>>157228585
The unusuals are actually really well drawn and animated
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>>157235685
No stock, gunboats escape plan wtf do you even play solly
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Why are the gibus and pyrovision goggles simply the best cosmetics out there?
First of all, they both actually require skill and experience to obtain (you need to dominate someone wearing them). Not many people actually wear the gibus or the goggles, so it will take you many hours of gameplay to find someone wearing them and even then you aren't guaranteed to get them because they could end up dominating YOU.
I'm always going to use the gibus and pyrovision no matter what cosmetics I end up getting, because they actually required REAL SKILL to obtain.
Unlike retards who actually spend REAL MONEY on a fucking VIRTUAL hat, or fucking autists who spend hours trading shit around for a fucking hat I obtained my cosmetics through actually playing the game.
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>>157318356
what about the dueling badge
>>
i forgot to take out my dumb trip
classic me hahah *cuts wrists*
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>>157318532
Duels are a meme.
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>>157318868
youre a meme
duels are nice
>>
this link looks fake
http://tf2r.com/kodzace.html
>>
Why is the community so in denial about soldier being OP?
>ridiculous mobility
>high as fuck health because fuck you
>almost always one shots EVERYTHING except for Heavy
Fucking retardation. You're having a fun skillful match where you're fucking the opponent and sometimes the opponent's fucking you, and then suddenly boop a soldier shoots you with a rocket and you're instantly dead.
The class requires no skill and is just a complete and total buzzkill.
>>
>use direct hit rocket to airblast jump
>while in the air reflect fully charged huntsman arrow to headshot speedjumping soldier
>land behing heavy medic, puff n sting the medic, airblast heavy off cliff

>not the highest skill ceiling
>b-but muh w+m1 meme video from 2007
>le c-tap mastering so difficult, much skill XD

sorry homeboy, pyro has one of the highest skill ceilings. that's why comp players rarely play him, he's too risky because he's so difficult to play

any rocket/sticky jump or airshot demo and soldier can do, the pyro can do as well. with stricter timing and only when the enemy allows it, meaning you have to react faster than when you can jump at will.
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>>157225618
i bought an unusual of the scm
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@157319310

try harder
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>>157320530
>being this new
pleaselook at the FAQ to learn, how to quote posts, newfag
>>
^ lmao look at this newfig
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>>157320530
>@157319310
(You)
>>
Originally posted by No. 157320716

>>157320530 (You)
>being this new
pleaselook at the FAQ to learn, how to quote posts, newfag

sorry im new here
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>>157320983
then read the FAQ like i told you to avoid embarrassing yourself again
http://4chan.org/FAQ

>>157320879
you do that too
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>Just giving out (You)bucks willy nilly
Fucking newfigs, I swear.
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>>157321436
does this make you feel better
>>
No.
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>>157321436
>>157321529
who are you talking to?
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>>157321389
are you rusing me
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>>157321754
>paint open
nice try
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What do you main and what do you think of other mains?

Heavy main here.
>Medic mains
Bros. if they can warn or check spies in time, they're the best.
>Soldier mains
Only helps with objective when they can't pubstomp with KS weapons
>Sniper mains
Hackers with fedora or 14yo MLG doritos kiddos
>Spy mains
Can be pretty chill dudes, unlike you expect them.
>Scout mains
Silent, objective minded yet act like spoiled brats and blame others when you oppose them. I saw them calling people to "MGE"
>Engi mains
Silent types that carry the whole team on their back and create impressive defenses or tarts who never build teles.
>Demo mains
Regular Demoman mains are generally best comrades or rivals. Fuck Demoknights.
>Pyro mains
Most of the so-called "Pyro mains" only could M1 or try blast surf a rocket into the sights of a level3 Sentry. Only a few would be capable of ambushing properly.
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>>157318356
Fuck you you stupid nigger play the game for more than ten minutes and youll find out why the others are better.
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>>157323183
>the others are better
Literally how?
They do nothing other than display to the world how much of a fucking autist you are for spending hours trading and maybe even spending real money.
And they don't fucking do anything.
Pyrovision goggles actually do something by changing the way you perceive the game, turning some of the more gloomy and boring maps into colorful and unique battlefields.
Try baiting harder.
>>
I hate how every joke is just called out as being bait these days

>>157323183
>>157323698
not me btw
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>>157318356
Is this a vintage meme
Because if it isn't you're sad
>>
>>157322964
Heavy mains
>Retards who hump the cart or camp the point while spamming E the entire game, useless without a medic
>Soldier mains
Spam E while rocket jumping all over the map, can't do shit without a pocket most of the time
>Sniper mains
Cool dudes if they actually know how to play sniper
>Spy mains
Literal children.
>Scout mains
When the children find out that spy and pyro are actually bad classes, this is what they play instead
>Engi mains
"Oh shit, I don't know how to actually play this game, guess I'll just turtle on last and stand still outside my nest once all my shit is built up, yeah this is a good strategy."
>Demo mains
Demoknights are cancer, actually good demos are rare as fuck, but tend to be cool dudes
>Pyro mains
See: Spy mains
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>>157245250
owned bitch
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>>157322964
Medic/Pyro main here

>Scouts
Second scariest class if they're good. Fuck off, please
>Soldiers
Shoot at my feet, please
>Pyro
Airblast me when I'm on fire, please
>Demoman
Iunno. They're just there to please my need to do the deed of lighting up the kill feed. Please
>Heavies
Best Pockets in the world. Another Sandvich, please
>Engineers
They're almost always women. Fuck off and stop playing video games, please
>Medics
I'm already a Med. Don't go Med and stack heals on my Pocket, please
>Snipers
Scariest class if they're good. Shoot and miss so I can make it across an open space already, please
>Spy
Lmao. Please
>>
>Medic complaining we have no power classes to push with
>I'm playing demo
>I have a 4:1 k/d
>He still doesn't uber me
>Doesn't even acknowledge my existence
????
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>>157322964
i main scout and think all other mains are losers
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>>157326524
>be medic
>demo just sticky jumps away the second i'm in range
>complains in chat he never gets ubers
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>>157325593
Wait, I forgot about medic
>Medic mains
"I can't aim, but I still want points, so let me shove my gun up this guys ass and face forward while staying no more than two feet from him the entire time and moving only in straight lines while having zero situational awareness so even when the encounter goes bad, I'll never pop uber or pull out if my pocket is going to die. I also don't overheal anyone ever, especially not demos or scouts."

>>157326709
I almost never sticky jump in pubs because I never have enough health to get anywhere without immediately getting rekt.
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>>157326760
you wanna fucking go m8?
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>>157322964
I main heavy

Scout mains
>Either they're memelords or actually good at TF2. the worst are both
Soldier mains
>Cocky assholes, but also really chill friends
Pyro mains
>Degenerates
Demo mains
>Chill dudes, demoknight players are degenerates
Heavy mains
>Top tier, I am unbiased
Engy mains
>Way too enthusiastic about engineer, they all think he's good when he's really just a support class
Sniper mains
>Lenny face meme spammers, generally retarded
Medic mains
>Cucks
Spy mains
>"hahah I le buttstabbed uuuu!"
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>>157322964
demoman main here

>scout mains
death incarnate when good players, usually obnoxious but no big deal
>soldier mains
usually smug dudes who spam z2 after every kill and pub carriers
>pyro mains
cute furries or sperglords who never use the microphone
>demomains
more obnoxious than scout mains, use all strange weapons, usually has a medic up the arse
>heavy mains
does not exist
those who do play with a medic up the arse and have godly tracking
>engineer mains
aways credit to team, aways build sentry and pottis
good dudes
>sniper mains
fffffffffffffffuck off
>medic mains
beta fags who do not exist without their pocket
but they carry pubs by themselves
>spy mains
dudes with good amby aim should be banned from public matchmaking
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>>157326709
I know that feel bro.
>pyro main
>"PYRO PUT ME OUT IM ON FIRE"
>they're fucking moving around all over the place like an autist
>try to airblast them twice
>miss
>watch them burn alive
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>>157322964
literally this >>157326554
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>>157328273
and then I laugh at them
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>>157328273
it's like those scout who run circle around you double jumping constantly going in and out of range and wondering why they aren't getting healed
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>comeback after 5 months
>retard heavy main domin8r is still posting

man i guess i should just off mysefl
>>
>Getting triggered because people you do not like come to /tf2g/
You should get that autism checked out, son, it sounds pretty bad.
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>>157329048
nah famalamalimlogjam, just find a pocket medic and go fuck a pub up. I've found that the Stun Pyro is extremely carthritic (Stock, Scorch Shot, Homewrecker)
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>>157329225
>famalamalimlogjam
my nigga
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>>157330535
yo
christian image board
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>>157330535
dude, spoiler that shit! This ain't no trash dump
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>>157330535
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>>157330630
right, sorry
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>>157331178
>pyrocynical

good_vibes.vtf
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>>157322964
sniper main here

>scout mains
the experience i've had with scout mains is that they usually take the game really seriously and don't have time for any nonsense or bullshit. they'll take the "team leader" position without a second thought and be the first to tell you what you did to fuck up.
>soldier mains
there's too many to generalize really. it's an all-around class and it covers all the bases of what kinds of players you'll see. some are market gardener goofballs, some are really skilled at jumping and aiming and try their hardest to win.
>pyro mains
i like to think that anyone who plays pyro more than any other class knows that the only way to win as pyro is to play unfairly. their secondary, be it the scorch shit or the reserve shitter, is their primary. their flamethrower is just there to airblast people into corners or off cliffs. fuck these people.
>demo mains
not as serious as scout mains, despite being overall more dangerous, but not as goofy as pyro mains. a decent middle ground.
>heavy mains
i'm almost convinced they don't exist. i've seen maybe one guy who was an absolute god at heavy in my near 2000 hours and he was a pretty cool guy.
>engineer mains
the ones who aren't just uncle dane wannabe's have a hard, unforgiving, frustrating, thankless job and i respect them for that. keeping a nest up against a good demo or spy is never easy. probably the most patient players in the game.
>medic mains
the ones that actually play medic properly are great. the ones that shove their medigun up their best friend's ass to pubstomp are shitters. like viva. viva is a shitter.
>sniper mains
i get pissed off easily when i see someone using shit that's unbalanced, especially the danger shield. other sniper mains are usually cocky assholes who wear the anger and make other sniper mains look bad.
>spy mains
really frustrating to play against a good spy when your team just doesn't want to support you, otherwise i think they get angry easily at dumb bullshit.
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>>157332537
But Anonymous

I can heal the Homies AND play greater than properly. We are Gods
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>>157332537
What if I'm the one that did >>157247474. Does that make me a shitter?
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Yo. Engie main drawfag signing in with ~700 hours, how's your day going?
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>>157332696
no you're just goofing around.
>>157332652
still a shitter
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>>157332841
Spending my off day browsing shit online and playing GTA with the Homie

Yourself?

>>157332869
Pshh. I may be a shitter to some extent, but I'm still a sick Medic
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>>157332973
Just. In bed, should be sleeping soon. Got work and shit tomorrow.
Sounds fun.
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>Thinking it requires any skill whatsoever to shove a medigun up your pals ass on the two worst maps in the entire game
Why do people still acknowledge Viva's existence again?
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>>157332973
I wouldn't want a sick doctor healing me, he'd get me sick too and that shit is not sanitary
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>>157332841
I have a philosophy paper that's overdue by about 12 hours

and a bio lab starting at 2:30, with the accompanying class immediately after and in a different building.

But on the bright side I did line up an interview with a Starbucks for this Saturday. Do you take requests?
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Well, it's almost been a month since Pyro won the ballot. What do you think they're planning on changing? Are they just going to create a bunch of new weapons for him or alter his core gameplay entirely?
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>>157333109
It requires skill, map awareness, sick arrow shots 40% of the time, and delicious opportunities at 6+ kills with one Pop turning corners and ambushing
You should ask yourself the same question. You're acknowledging me, too, ya goof

>>157333118
Who says I'd be healing you? My Heals and Pops are for the Homies only

Unless they're dead and I need to force on someone while I'm backing away so I don't drop. Highly unlikely
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>>157333347
i can imagine based on the fact that they acknowledged the flamethrower is broken as shit that it's going to be an overhaul the likes of which tf2 has never seen. or it might be disappointing and pyro just gets a bunch of hats and crappy weapons.
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>>157332841
you're shit at drawing my dude
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>>157333551
It ain't horrible for a Pencil drawing, though
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>>157333321
Good luck with that, pal.
And, yes! If you are alright with somewhat delay, like maybe 12 hours for me to start it (I will not lurk for too long now, so.)? You should see it tomorrow here at around the same time as today, like, now.
>>157333551
I know. That's why I am here, am I right?
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>>157333347
>>157333518
Sorry, two months. It ended in August.
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>P-p-pyro update is gonna be great, just you watch!
>B-b-b4nny is in charge, it'll be great!
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>>157333518
They're going to make completely retarded and nonsensical changes because there's only 3 people left working on TF2 and they're all retards who barely play the game.

>>157333617
>Bad anatomy
>Eraser marks everywhere
>Can barely tell who the character is even supposed to be
As expected the bagboy has no sense of judgement.
>>
>get used to playing on 20 ping
>use the dh hit a lot, it's fun
>back to 200 ping
>shots are always off by milimiters

get me out
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>>157333751
next he'll say that he's not really a bagboy
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>>157333751
>Eraser marks
Yeah, no one's gonna do a Pencil drawing without eraser marks unless they trace the finished product over lines
>Can barely tell
Dude, I wear glasses cause I'm blind as fuck. I knew it was Engineer on first glance. You sure your eyesight isn't fucked? Get glasses if you can't tell that's Engie with the train conductor hat

>>157333905
Cashiers do the bagging themselves
>>
>casual
>soldier main
>500$ hat
>australium rocketlauncher
>trying to rocketjump but failing
>be me
>engineer main, 1500 hours with engineer
>dominate him using shotgun only, no sentries
>taunt after every kill
>says im hacking
>40 seconds later
>crit meatshot him with first shot
>says he is recording how I am hacking and will report me
>has lft 6s high in his name
>I'm laughing to tears
>he quits the game
>probably uninstalled and now plays overwatch and tells everyone overwatch>tf2
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>>157333715
awesome, think you can do a sheriff?
>>
I DID NOT PAY THREE FUCKING THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO LET SOME WORTHLESS GIBUSVISION SCORE A LUCKY KILL ON ME AND USE MY GOD DAMN GOLDEN FRYING PAN
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>>157333751
Thanks, I appericiate some judgement. And don't worry, I just did some pencil drawing with not the highest priority at that moment.
>>157334015
Ah-oy, got it, Sherrif.
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>>157334003
not him but good that you didnt say anything about the anatomy, because it IS horrible
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>>157334014
Describes every soldier main in casual. They rage the hardest when they get outskilled by someone.
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>The Skull Island topper is from 2012
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i am really enjoying demoman pipes

i know stickies are stronger

but pipe game so tasty
>>
>>157334014
Probably the kind of Soldier main who thinks airblasting is complete bullshit and that anyone who kills him without at least a $700 hat on is a cheater
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>>157336370
yeah
it is
>>
>last non reskin melee was added 4 years ago
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>>157337695
I call him sheriff nutsack
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man i havent played tf2 in like a month
is it dead yet
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>>157338143
the less melees added to the game the better
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>>157338352
besides pain train and MAYBE skullcutter, demoMAN doesn't have any useful or interesting melees like soldier or pyro or scout
>>
So, there's a update on halloween maps. 100MB o.o
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>>157338790
>a update
Anon plz
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anybody wanna play some mvm
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198120600913
also pls ignore my cringy old names
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>>157339032
>41 hours in TF2
>almost 500 in gmod
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>>157339032
>1 friend
>5 games
>On a 2 year old account
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>>157339193
>Forgot i had gmod
>look at the hours i clocked up before i stopped playing
>421
>FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY FUCKING ONE
i used to play shit games
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>>157339032
I want that screen to be added to a multiplayer game. Suddenly it goes from Tumblr-tier to hilarious.
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>>157339336
i dont usually friend people that often unless i know them irl
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>>157339386
>If you're being triggered, you can end the scene at any time by pressing the "Ragequit" button in the top left corner
>>
>upper left corner
what
who puts the exit button there
its always on the upper right corner
>>
>>157339880
keyboards put it in the upper left.
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>>157340234
but it talks about screens, not keyboards you doofus
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>>157340341
sayin that people put exit buttons in the upper left corners of things is all.
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wat
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>spend months not playing tf2 after all the shit about how terrible the new casual mode is
>finally decide to take the plunge
>play 6 games
>literally just a slightly more organized pub where people seem to be trying to do the objective
>switching to a new map every few rounds kept me playing for longer than I otherwise would have
>getting xp

Why was this a bad thing again?
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>>157339340
>gmod
>shit game

Fuck off, gmod was a great game. Prophunt is fun, Murder is fun, TTT is still fun. You just had a shit imagination, no friends or both.
>>
>>157341341
It was amazing when it still had abandonment penalties and stopwatch mode. Reddit babbies cried and ruined it and now it's just quickplay all over again. No, I will never stop complaining about this. Crying because something changed for the better without even giving it a chance is what children do.
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>>157341341
same reason the Uberupdate was a bad thing: People don't like change

TF2 went free to play?! Holy fuck, Volvo you just killed your game!

TF2 is adapting to the modern standards of the FPS genre!? Holy fuck Volvo, you just killed your game!

It's the same shitstorm five years later, and it'll dissipate just as quickly if not quicker if the TF team keep doing what they've been doing this past month
>>
>tfw slowly getting the boys back into tf2

had some good games

everyone in matchmaking plays like a KP tho
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>>157341718
kp?
>>
>>157341640
>TF2 is adapting to the modern standards of the FPS genre!? Holy fuck Volvo, you just killed your game!

you could have it both ways you know
>>
i had a blast in my time in the rain forest, well im back and better than ever. if any of you guys have unwanted tf2 items please send them to me

/id/RedLilSleepy/
>>
>>157341804
KP - noun - Acronym for Known Pubber

Known Pubber - noun - That guy who you recognize in pubs due to something he does, the opposite of a spud
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>>157341973
spud?
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>>157341373
i think imma pick it back up to see if its still fun
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>>157341973
pubber?
>>
>>157342060
Spud - noun - That guy who plays medic and doesn't heal anyone because he's clueless and not just because he's ironically fragging with his crossbow

>>157342118
Pubber - noun - A person who frequents the pub
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>>157342197
i see
is this shanty ebonics?
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>>157342118
wow rei thanks, youre so smart! :)
>>
http://tf2r.com/k4hbl2j.html
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>>157341627
pretty much this. I loved how stopwatch mode worked. It kept games short and competitive rather than long and casual.

>>157341718
I've seen more Grizzled Veteran and Primeval Warrior badges in the past week than I had since I started TF2 back in 2012. It's happening, we're getting the original audience back Now if only Jerma and Star_ would come back. I miss their shenanigans

>>157341830
had Valve left Matchmaking as it was on launch, then yes we would have had a dead game, but they fixed it.

>>157342076
Make sure to have friends and light intoxication to encourage fun.
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>>157342292
that's PL

>>157342298
dumb ass you misquoted

>>157342567
I miss being able to just get on a pub without having to sit in a queue

and if some buddies want to join me they have to wait for my game to end etc

i wish valve servers were still a thing
>>
>>157342816
what exactly did i miss quote? :)
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>>157342951
shut the fuck uop
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>>157342816
When you're queuing with friends, the more you have, the longer the queue will take. A 6 man queue will take 15+ minutes to find a game. You'd think that the bigger your stack the higher your priority for being placed in an empty server, but nah.
>>
>>157343029
dont tell me what to do >:(
>>
name one good thing about pl_snowycoast
you cant
there isnt anything good about it
the person who made it deserves to be tortured
>>
>>157343201
I once went like 50:2 as demo on that map. It was a good day.
>>
>>157343201
ill happily do it when my games get done on my new gaming beast
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>>157342816
Well, there's always the community servers. Uncle Dane actually did an okay job with Gameshock, but they're criminally underpopulated as in empty We should fill them up sometime. Poozers and TC are also really good servers that don't hit you with adds, but thanks to the retard population, most of the players flock to trade_ maps and fucking Skial. Valve seriously needs to enforce a standard on the servers allowed in game. I'm really fucking sick of the only decently populated servers being cp_orange or trade_minecraft_b32
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>>157343053
that's just the thing

>game night with the boys where everyone stacks the pub never again

rip

>>157343382
>community servers

next thing you'll be telling me i should play on maps that aren't badwater, frontier and upward

get outta here...
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>>157343201
It's a well balanced map with clever flank routes, just because you're shit at watching for flankers doesn't make it a bad map.
>>
>>157343382
Can't. People'd cry. Most of this game is casual players and 12 year olds who think the height of competitive play is tdm_2fort. Valve brought this on themselves with all the hats and silly shit they've added to the game over the years, now TF2 will never be taken seriously. Yet the same people who cry about Valve not giving TF2 any love also go and cry when Valve tries to update the game to be a bit more serious.

>>157343573
Yeah it's shit. Best you can hope for is randomly running into other /tf2g/s while you're playing. This has actually happened, I was moderately surprised. Then again, the actual playerbase that isn't trade bots is really fucking tiny.
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>>157343589
The entire map is a fucking flank route.
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>>157343382
I seriously don't understand how cp_orange is even a popular map. Trade servers shouldn't even exist anymore.
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>>157343589
>watch flanks
>watch soldier come through flanks with 2 vaccinator medics
>takes 20 damage from point blank pills/meatshots
>wipes your team
>repeat for 10 minutes
hmm maybe it wasnt the map after all
>>
>>157343930

>2 medics who know how to use a vacc playing tf2 at the same time

>2 medics who know how to use a vacc on the same server

>2 medics who know how to use a vacc playing on the same team

Hahahahhahahaha.
>>
>>157344132
your condescending punctuated laughter means nothing to me, i just endured that for a whole game
maybe its different in na but in eu pubs the average player skill is beneath nonexistent so a single person who can aim tends to carry their team with little effort
>>
>>157344132
put on a purple hat and people will go medic for you
>>
>>157344357
That's about right here in NA too.

>>157344391
>tfw medics never heal me even tho I have a better k/d than that topscoring heavy
>tfw all he has to do is hump the cart for free points and medics
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>>157344471
>play the game
>get points
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lmao
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>>157344942
whom?
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>>157344357
Who were these vaccinator med? I might know them.
>>
>>157338541
scottish handshake
>>
>>157343201
it's good as machina sniper

well im good at machina sniper and i played the map and got like 20 collate kills
>>
>>157345459
strange handshake when
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>>157345413
haven't a clue

>>157345474
yeah whole thing is just a series of open air corridors, moreso than other payload maps
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>>157345586
i am ready

that bottle is a fucking life saver
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sorted all the pictures on my hard drive today
have a rare pootis from 2013
>>
>>157346018
That's a cool comrade
>>
>Turbine
>Removed the ledge you could stand on in the intel room
>Doublecross
>Can't stand on the bridge beams anymore
>2fort
>Removed all the nooks and crannies in the intel room
>But you can still camp the water cooler
I really shouldn't be surprised
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>>157347857
No fun allowed.
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What do you think, lads?
>>
i dont get it
>>
Don't drop it.
>>
ohh
thats a really dumb joke
i like it
>>
what about wubs
>>
what about what
>>
in the butt
>>
what
>>
in the butt
>>
what in who's butt
>>
what what in the robutt
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Alright /tf2g/, solve this riddle:
>You are playing Scout
>You turn a corner and immediately get knocked into the air
>The source of the knockback was a stickybomb, evidenced by the Demoman who placed another one in your landing trajectory
>He pulls out his Grenade Launcher
How do you survive this? 99% of shitters get this wrong.
>>
>>157354607
You jump?
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>>157354805
You take a 100 damage direct pill and die because you committed your trajectory adjustment like a dumbass.
>>
>>157354607
Jump to your right and to the back.
>>
>>157354607
airstrafe right or left depending on the exact environment and then doublejump in the same direction i was airstrafing since he would expect me to predict him predicting going the opposite way as soon as i hear the firing sound of the grenade launcher because audio response time is on average faster than visual
>>
>>157354607
*pulls out winger*
*jumps over demomans head*

pshh...nothing personnel, kid... heh...

*misses boston basher swing and dies immediately*
>>
>>157354607
wait for him to shoot, strafe away, shoots again, jump away, landed before third shot, dodge and meatshot
>>
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New version of my map is up.
216.52.143.247:27015
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>>157354902
I didnt realize we were assuming perfect accuracy on the demo.

Your question isnt really answerable in a word format. There are so many variables such as the map, the location on the map, your hp, if your gun is loaded, the skill of both players, if the demos wireless mouse runs out of battery, ect, ect
>>
>tfw piping scouts will never stop being satisfying
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whats going on in this thread
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>>157354607
ask my medic to pop one of these, then ask why he didn't do it sooner
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5xlgeD-Y1g

The Homie Blaris made a video
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>>157354607
quit the server before he gets to shoot to avoid giving him the satisfaction of fragging me
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>>157355508
Autism
>>
>trade my specialized killstreak pistol kit
>check backpack to see if my bp value changed at all
>it shot up to over $300
>refresh the page
>it was a glitch
w-what happened
at least i got this cool new ap-sap
>>
>>157355627
>calling anyone autistic while posting a meme youtuber reaction pic
>>
>>157355751
I was only admitting to being retarded.
>>
http://tf2r.com/krsfl5d.html
i expected more of you tf2g
>>
>>157356545
>make shit post in dead thread
>wtf why no on click link
>>
>>157356545
who
>>
i thought viva was quitting tf2
>>
i wish some people would quit life
>>
why dont i have a quit button
>>
because you're gay
>>
>>157357258
I haven't played it since I said I said I wouldn't
>>
>>157357474
Have you checked the top left corner?
>>
wait so do straight people have a quit button then
>>157357579
can you answer that question
do you have a quit button
>>
im not gay
>>
yes, you're fucking gay.
>>
>>157357652
its not there
>>
>>157357819
top right?
>>
>>157357807
im not gay
>>
>>157357910
it's okay, i like you the way you are.
>>
>>157357693
On my TF2 Main Menu? Duh. Who else doesn't
>>
>>157357907
theres nothing there
>>
>>157358016
have you tried rebooting your system?
>>
>>157357981
this guy doesnt seem to have one >>157358016
do you know whats wrong with him
>>
>>157357967
but im not gay>>157358081
how do i reboot my system
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>About to die
>Retry in the console
>It's faster than respawning
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>>157358132
hold down the power button for several seconds till you hear your computer shut down completely, then turn it on again.
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what diferentiates a mid player from a top high or prem player? what does it take to get there
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>>157358310
unusuals and putting LFT or PLAT in your name
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>>157229348
Soldier with the Beggar's Bazooka, works wonders for stuff like that
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>>157358262
ive rebooted my computer system a bunch of times but i dont have a quit button
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>>157358370
whats plat
what are unusuals for
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>>157358886
alright, only thing for it then is to apply kill to self.
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>when your connected to american servers all the time
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>>157359372
>when retard toad poster makes retarded post
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>>157359194
where do i get kill to self
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>>157359043
things that make people think you're good at the game
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>>157359470
i thought his post was funny (but only ironically)
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>>157359501
oh
well ive been playing hatless for like 2 years now
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>connect to American server
>people can't fucking shut up
>some little kid constantly talking, like some recording
>nobody tries to kick him
>my European mfw face when
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>>157359793
>some little kid constantly talking, like some recording

why does this always fucking happen

do they not understand how annoying they are?

are all children autistic?
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Archimedes Cup 2 when
it was fun as fuck, i want to see a second one
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i was gonna post an ironic post with an ironic frog but then i realized i dont have any frog pictures because im not autistic
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>>157360196
I can upload my folder to Mega?
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hey i saw some youtube vids of people playing TF2 and it looked fun

should I start playing it too
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>>157360459
if you want to
you do whatever the fuck you want
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>>157360592
>retard bought a pass
>>
SHONKY BUSINESS
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>>157360627
it says 2013 so he must be an old fag
dont say bad things to odl fags because tehy will haxxx u
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>>157359993
Votekick them. If he's blathering about irrelevant shit, it'll go through.
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>The only Arena server I can find is a 24/7 arena 2fort server
>You cant cap the point
>no class restrictions
>Engineers just stay in spawn with sentries galore
>admins kick you for capping even if the match is a stalemate

Why Do I like Arena again?
>>
Dotsy is an overwatch traitor.
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>>157361828
arena is good just quickplay killed the community
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>>157361828

Arena 2fort Railbait.net right?

Cancer server every single regular is a memer who suck the admins dicks. and to make matters worse the admins are all smug assholes who love the attention and if you ask for map changes and the like they just say "2fort is a good map bro :DDDDD" while the matches can go up to 15 minutes sometimes due to the retarded no cap rule.
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>>157361828
i think i know which server youre talking about
i used to play for a little while there before getting bored of the same engineer/pyro/black box soldier shit
and yeah the no capping is seriously dumb when theres a clear stalemate where no one wants to exit their nest

i dont understand how people even like playing on servers like that

shame to see its the only fucking arena server left
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>>157362097

Yep its Railbait

2fort Arena isant even that bad but the fucking no cap rules with no class restrictions is cancer.

The admins purposely did it I think they actually like that turtle bullshit. Capping makes teams get out of there safe spaces and actively fight eachother instead you just get Engineers,medics, and heavies all to scared to push while the people who actively look for fights get fucked.
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>Enemy team tries to win on Badlands
>Equip Pain Train and backcap everything
Good one Valve.
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>>157361989
Quickplay was close to becoming perfect, with them putting Hyrdo, Doomsday, Watergate, and DeGroot Keep in their own category. People were playing the shit out of those when they did that. All they had to do was make an Arena category and finish Asteroid, but no, they decided to suddenly undo all those changes and scrap Quickplay all together.

>>157341627
I hate the removal of Quickplay, but I never wanted Casual Mode to become a pale imitation of it. I knew they wouldn't get rid of Casual Mode after putting work into it, I just wanted them to put Quickplay back alongside Casual Mode. That way everyone would be happy. But no, they tried to make Casual Mode into something that was FUNDAMENTALLY different and made nobody happy.
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>>157364170
i hope the tf2 servers shut down desu
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>>157364490
They already have in my eyes. Now I have to wade through all the community server bullshit just to play a game.

What was so difficult about keeping the competitive matchmaking shit to itself? During the beta everything was nicely separated and had focus. Does the TF2 team have ADHD?
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is there a 2015 tf2g drawing
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>>157364704
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>>157364592
Valve added queued casual mode because every other 'modern' shooter had it.
They failed to realize that being unique from every other modern shooter was what kept people playing TF2 in the first place.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they took out rocket jumping and switching mercenaries in a future update so TF2 could be more accessible.
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>>157365118
>"convoluted" rocket jumping bug removed in favor of jet pack items for soldier and demo
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>>157365204

>Also we have noticed that demoman and Soldier seem to have problems getting caught out by pyros or scouts so we added a blast back feature aswell
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>NECA is being a huge asshole with the releases of the TF2 figures, lies about certain lines being discontinued and sells them on Amazon and other sites for ridiculous amounts of money
>WeLoveFine being the new official storefront makes hardly any sense because of the huge focus on shirts instead of what Valve originally had which was a balance of everything
>some shit is still hidden on the main WeLoveFine store and not the ValveWeLoveFine site, including the Sanvich figure which sporadically has a small restock, some of the better T-shirt designs, most of the posters and even some of the old Valve shirts
>Mini-Merc blind boxes are at least priced good, some of the 'discontinued' figures are still being sold on the official store but its suicide to order without paying out the ass for shipping because they do USPS shipping otherwise and they always fuck up the box/package

Is it sad that I want TF2 merchandice, or is it sadder its all shitty and I still want it?
the Balloonicorn stuff is fucking fantastic at least and worth it
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>>157365118
It's not that they added it, it's that they REPLACED another feature with it that gets me. It's the same thing with Halloween. I would be completely fine with there being no more new Halloween bosses and only using community-made maps and using the contract system for new maps, that's fine. It's clear the heyday of TF2 has come and gone. But to get rid of the gift system on the old maps is maddening. Rushing around to find those gifts was half of the fun of Halloween events, and something I looked forward to all year.
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>mfw i singlehandedly won the game for my fellow shitters by backcapping last on snakewater

feels good
my hands are still shaking
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>>157362269

Idiots like that kind of mode

they can stay in a base all they want
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>Soldier comes out of spawn
>0 damage done so no crit % ramp up
>Shoots a rocket at me
>Reflect
>Shoots a crit
>Reflect
>Jumps
>Shoots a rocket
>Reflect
>Go around the corner
>Hits me with ANOTHER crit
>Game ends
fucking hate this goddamn crit meme FUCK
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>>157274769
Arena is not a good game mode. It sounds fun, but it's awful no matter what. It doesn't work for a game like tf2.
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>>157367197

I find it fun but there are glaring issues
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>>157366575
crit is a reward for the other player doing something dumb
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>>157367938
>run at someone with your 65 damage melee
>this is a wise tactic because odds are you're going to crit someone
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>>157368380
>Hit someone with 195 damage weapon
>Win
I fail to understand the issue here.
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>>157354607
bind / kill
or alternatively you jump at the last second to prevent fall damage
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>>157366023
yeah but
i mean
why play a pvp game if youre afraid of dying?
whats the point
they could just as easily play some clicker game and see numbers go up
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>>157371685

>be me
>be not someone else
>just me
>playing A/D
>entire blu team comes around the corner to last point
>medic pops uber in the middle of the pack
>divebomb in and airblast the ubers off the ledge
>die
>worth.avi
>their team kills a lot of our guys
>just a solly and heavy left
>solly dies
>everyone respawns
>bumrush to point
>see heavy running away from point because his health got low
>reach the edge of the cap area just as the point is capped
>why live
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>be australian
>enjoy badwater
>but 99.99% of australian games are badwater
>if you don't uncheck it you will get badwater without fail everytime
>slowly getting sick of badwater
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>>157359793
>>157359993
sorry for sending a SiN video but that's all I can think after reading these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Dp-W_0p7M
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Post teams and screams
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>>157375534
bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, eh, ok, eh, bad, fucking awful, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad
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>>157366575
crit rate increased since mym
probably one of the undocumented changes, there is no other way to explain that shit
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>>157322964
I main soldier and heavy.
>Heavy mains
Loving being healed all the time. Pretty useful even without a pocket medic.
>Medic mains
Usually just not good enough to play class who shoot people. Healslut: the class.
>Soldier mains
Shooting ground and feets to get ebin killstreaks. Easy class to be good with when you actually bad.
>Sniper mains
Hackers or regular 24/7 cp_orange players. Able to fuck everything once they becabe good. Usually edgelords.
>Spy mains
Kids who new to this game. Useless until they get 1000 hrs on this class. And even after this all they can do is pubstomp versus f2p 9yo heavies.
>Scout mains
Most toxic and nasty cunts in community.
>Engi mains
Guys who don't really want to play this game. Or want to get free easy ugc medals for building teleporters.
>Demo mains
Usually most cool guys in the game.
>Pyro mains
Furry brony transgenger dicklovers. I havent meet any pyro main who wasnt disgusting.
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it's 100% true
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>>157334014
>we did it reddick, i'm being huge retard and focusing someguy just because he have hats xDDD
I'm sure all of your story is bullshit but whatever. I just want to say that you looking like a retard when doing shit like that to random persons that you just meet.
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>>157376197
Dodgy!
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>>157322964

Engi main here.
>Medic mains
Usually grills or effeminate boys. Universally anime lovers. Very shy but bros once they open up.
>Soldier mains
Fucking twats who do nothing but rocketjump to the front during setup time and take all the ammo where I need to build.
>Sniper mains
Either pro as fuck entirely silent team carriers or gibus ss/dds scrubs.
>Spy mains
Pretty useless. I've only ever met one spy main who could do anything to help the team.
>Scout mains
Usually obnoxious but very good at the game. Legacy Quake players I'd guess.
>Engi mains
Most important member of the team. Aryan, handsome, intelligent, smart, witty, dashing, chivalrous, courteous and deadly. Nah but most other engi mains I've met have been pretty bored with the game or older guys who can't aim anymore. Usually they know the spots and the rollouts.
>Demo mains
Absolute bros.
>Pyro mains
Useless phlog cunts who have never heard of the homewrecker or spychecking or not being a virgin.
>Heavy mains
Either young kids who are quite new or decent bros who can carry a team with a decent pocket.
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i think people who maim classes are retarded
you should be good at playing all classes effectively
that is true skill
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all u have to know about class mains
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>>157377474
is there one where you just get 1 girl?
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>>157375797
I don't see you posting yours
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>>157377474
engi mains get lolis?
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>>157377474
so for the demo, is the dude getting 3 chicks or is the one to the far left a lesbian only
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>>157377162
But Engineer, I do use the Homewrecker, and I do airblast spam away from your sentry
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>>157377660
>what is a shorstack
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>>157378390
lesbian unless it's a black dude

so most college girls
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>>157378495

I like you. I met a guy on the tf2 discussion boards who mains medic. We're thinking about getting a small team of good players together for pubstomping/fun in casual. I main engi he does medic. Would you be interested in joining?
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>>157379158
Sure, but I'm US West and can only really play on Fridays and Mondays. For some reason two of my professors dropped midterms on the same day this upcoming week.
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>>157379340
>111.5 hours past 2 weeks
holy fuck, and I thought I was bad for getting in 11 hours a week.

>524 hours
get on my level ya skrub http://steamcommunity.com/id/nid0king/
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>>157379445

I... I idle... ;_;

Nah but seriously I've only recently started playing again. I've been idling in trade servers most of the time. I usually only play a few maps, but I've been branching out in anticipation of playing with a team.
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>>157379552
>2012+4
>idling

you can go neck yourself now
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtVaPFPCs8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtVaPFPCs8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtVaPFPCs8
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>>157354607
you kill him
>>
Inhale the memes

Exhale the memes

Inject the memes into my bloodstream

There are good memes

and there are bad memes

Why has God abandoned us
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>>157382042
The truth is he was never truly with us to begin with.....
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>>157382042
the fact he says "us" rather than "me" as expected from the rhyming pattern really symbolises that no matter what you think, we are all in this together.
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>The is the most active /tf2g/ has ever been at these hours in the last year
I unlocked the secret of the riddle. This isn't actually /tf2g/, it's a general for some other mysterious game that we haven't found yet. We need to start looking.
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>>157382767
We're actually Major/Minor general we just use TF2 as a cover so the mods don't delete us for breaking the rules.
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>>157382803
mfw furry virtual novels
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>>157382767
shut up this is /tf2g/ and you need to just accept that its a slow general
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>>157375534
Honestly everything is bad. Scout is kinda ok. Halloween demo is good, but it's just cause of Cap'n Calamari.
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>>157382803
what the fuck is "Major/Minor"?
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>>157383767
its what this guy just said
>>157383584
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>>157375534
i don't have enough hats to have 2 separate loadouts per class
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>>157384865
Not even Halloween ones? Are you new to the game/not been participating? you can still get some in Halloween servers right now.
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>>157385552
i just don't trade a lot, or if i do it's for weapons over hats. i get enough hats to make a general theme for each of my classes, (50's scout, revolutionary war patriotic soldier, skeleton pyro, pirate demo, etc.) and i'm satisfied with that much. hats aren't that big a deal to me.
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>>157332537
>otherwise i think they get angry easily at dumb bullshit.
Dumb bullshit doesn't happen to other classes anywhere near the level it happens to spies.
>Guy suddenly strafes into your cloaked-ass in an empty hallway for no reason
>Enemy does a random 180 the moment you click on their bottom for no reason
>Retarded scout teammates runs into the sights of the level 3 sentry you're about to sap, killing you instantly
>Crit rockets fired at thin fucking air nullcoring across the map to fuck you up
>Backstabs just plain not fucking registering
At least sometimes I can chain 5 stabs on braindead pubs without audio I guess.
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>>157385812
>Enemy does a random 180 the moment you click on their bottom for no reason
literally every time i play spy which is why i brought it up in the first place
spies and snipers fill largely the same roles, but a sniper fucking up a headshot just means he isn't doing anything
the game fucking up a backstab for a spy is frustrating and much more detrimental to the spy
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>>157385913
I had a game last week where I shit you not I had 20 instances in a single match of dumb pub motherfuckers just doing an instant metal gear solid 180 the moment I clicked on them. Almost quit the game right there.
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>>157385973
i'm less surprised that happened and more surprised you counted
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>>157386094
When it happens for the 3rd time I make it my mission no longer to play the game but to make sure my friends in voice chat know exactly how mad I am over a videogame
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>>157263426
>airblast is a terrible mechanic and will never work in the confines of tf2
This is wrong and you have nothing to back it up. It's working right now and is one of the only reasons Pyro is a viable class
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>>157386563
reflecting projectiles is fine, but blasting people around and restricting mobility is annoying and frustrating to deal with
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>>157322964
Scout and Heavy main
>Medic mains
Always an asset unless they're new or dumb
>Soldier mains
The ones I try to kill all the time, because they're usually good
>Sniper mains
Food or major annoyances
>Spy mains
Food
>Scout mains
Fellow assholes
>Engi mains
Children ninety percent of the time, or assholes with mini sentries depending on the map
>Demo mains
Niggs
>Pyro mains
Food or major annoyances
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>>157387476
>Food

Why
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>>157377474
>scout
me on the left
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>>157387512
Why not
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>>157386736
90% of weapons in TF2 create knockback on the target they hit already. For example Soldier's and Demo's high knockback. "Blasting people around" is a fundamental concept carried over from Quake which allows for interesting gameplay and spectating where you aren't just pumping bullets into sponges, you're moving them and creating interesting movement.

Airblast's first puff might restrict the enemy player's movement but they're still moving, and that's interesting to watch and to play around. And the subsequent airblasts can be surfed, and your movement is not restricted whatsoever from that point. "Restricting mobility" only takes place for 0.25 of a second.

>annoying and frustrating to deal with

It's the punishment for poor aiming/positioning skills, you being a bad player and allowing the Pyro to get that close before jumping away or shooting it.

If we removed everything that a player found annoying or frustrating, no weapons would do any damage at all. People can find anything annoying.

Pyro's airblast is a good mechanic, makes a boring/weak class more skillful, interesting and viable, encourages teamwork, and it should never be (and, you should face it, won't be) removed.
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>>157388464

Eh, he has a point. It's a mostly uncounterable mechanic once it's deployed, but it's necessary for game balance. A lot of people confuse mechanic balance for game balance.

A game is fun if it has good game balance, which inherently forces unbalanced mechanics or no functional differences between weapons/classes.

A game can be fun for some people with niggling technical balance, but that doesn't make the game balanced. Look at the ubercharge for instance, it's unbalanced as fuck as a mechanic, it literally makes you invulnerable for a period. But it's a necessity for game balance and it's great fun to use. Nobody would suggest removing uber, even though there's nothing to be done once it's popped except be raped. You could airblast them away I suppose, but then you could just shoot a pyro juggling you. The main counter to an uber is killing the medic before he pops, similarly the main counter to airblast is killing the pyro before he gets in range. If you removed airblast you would be removing 50% of the counters to an uber. That would be pretty bad for game balance, even though it would make 1337 skillz more important in 1v1.

tl;dr if you hate airblast you must also hate uber
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>>157388464
>Flying forwards at 200 mph
>Get hit by a pill
>Slow down but don't stop
Meanwhile:
>Flying forwards at 200 mph
>Pyro hits m2 while looking in my general direction
>Halted entirely

Pyro as a class is built upon a lot of crutches and needs a fundamental rework to be viable. Airblast for example is infinitely easier to hit than explosive projectiles and has bigger results, and afterburn is just free damage for players that can't aim, but as a result there's very little room for individual development. Something that makes the class better isn't the same as adding depth.
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>>157389902

A pyro's role is to kill spies, to desap buildings, to kill spies, to airblast burning players, to kill spies, to airblast incoming ubers, to kill spies and to spycheck.

A pyro's role is not to make you develop as a person.
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>>157390075
If the class doesn't have depth there's little reward to playing the game in order to learn, which in turn makes the game shallow and detached. It's why games like tic-tac-toe, despite being known universally, aren't taken seriously, as the difference between a novice and expert is very small. Pyro can fulfill every role fairly easily to the point someone with 100 hours has a good grasp on how to play the class at a competitive level. What Pyro needs is a rework that grants the class much more potential in exchange for higher difficulty (whether it's in new techniques or otherwise).
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>>157390214

I believe that the skill ceiling of tic tac toe is somewhat lower than that of pyro.

You want to play harder games? Great, go play CS:GO. Everything is technically balanced there at the expense of game balance. If you're bad you die.

I prefer tf2 because I can be bad and not die.
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>>157390321
I am not saying Pyro has the same skill ceiling as tic-tac-toe, I'm stating that a low skill ceiling causes games to be treated like it (aka: not seriously). The hardest part about transitioning a game into a serious setting is you want to intentionally create a divide between new and experienced players, as this split demonstrates a distinction between the two groups and shows how you could become one of the "desirables" with practice. This is what drives many people (obviously not everyone) to play games, the thrill of becoming better. When you actively create situations where bad players can compete with good players, you are inverting this situation and removing motivation for players to invest time into the game.
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>>157390476

The genius is that all the weird nerds flock to CS:GO because omg so technically balanced and all the normal people who play for fun flock to tf2. Valve gets all the money for everyone and everyone is happy, except you, how would you feel if I made a CS:GO post about adding soldier type rocket jumping to increase the skill ceiling?

I'd argue that most people play to get their daily dose of dopamine from killing people in a fun and acceptable setting. Also winning feels good too.

The small bunch of nerds who play to better themselves can stick to comp or CS:GO.
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>>157390716
Again, it stops being fun if you realize there is no way to get better. The end result is players feel like they "completed" the game and just stop playing. Even in your "fun" scenario, if someone with 10000 hours gets the same K/D as someone with 100, you will see a sharp dropoff around there, because there is nothing left to strive for. People will turn the game on knowing exactly what will happen, and eventually lose interest. That's why even though many people hate massive skill gaps, they're an integral part of healthy game design. The difficulty truly lies in making sure it's curved enough to establish a clear distinction, while not being intimidating.
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>>157390981

Not really. I turn on the game, I join a match, I play the match. When I kill people it feels good. When I lose it feels bad.

If I wanted to learn a skill I'd play guitar or learn a foreign language. I don't want to do that, I want to kill people for brain drugs.
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>>157389782
>It's a mostly uncounterable mechanic once it's deployed
Because the counterplay comes before you "deploy" it.

Spy's Knife is a "mostly uncounterable mechanic" once it's deployed within your back; the counterplay is spychecking, communication, listening, turning around, killing once found.

Pyro's counterplay is shooting him before he gets within range (or while being airblasted), and moving out of his range (only class who can't is Heavy, who can just mow down Pyro).

There is nothing wrong with the counterplay ending once you failed the given opportunities to exercise it.

Agree with the rest of your post.

>>157389902
Sure he stops you far more efficiently than a pill. So? You're the one choosing to fly forwards at 200mph into a Pyro; you have air control. You're being punished for your lack of positioning skills and gamesense. It's very binary, but it's not overpowered or unfair.

Your central point is the skill that it takes, and by that logic, Medic being the most powerful class in the game is an unacceptable situation. But we accept it because it makes the game more interesting and brings game balance and variety. So too does airblast's brief movestun.

>and afterburn is just free damage for players that can't aim

Afterburn is a good mechanic which adds depth, creates cool moments where you make it to the health pack just before your HP drops below 1, allows Pyro players to get posthumous kills or amplify their own damage, encourages teamwork in extinguishing/healing, makes Pyro an actual counter to Spy instead of Scout, and checks Scout's power somewhat. It should be emphasised as something that makes Pyro unique and get a small buff, instead of being an easily countered low-damage joke that never kills.

>Pyro as a class is built upon a lot of crutches and needs a fundamental rework to be viable
I do agree. It needs buffs that make it require more skill in exchange for gaining more range, damage, or mobility.
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>taking about the game

Poot!
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>>157392509

Well I mean everything should have a counter. Ubers can be airblasted once popped, or even rocket juggled if you're good enough. Spies have to decloak which makes a sound, then they have to get in position behind you. Most of the slower classes shouldn't be alone anyway, and the ones that are like roaming sollies and demos shouldn't be walking anywhere.

If you know a spy is in position for a backstab you can at least turn around and just take a face stab.

Spy up close probably means death, but you can stop it. Pyro up close almost certainly means death.

I don't have a good solution to counter an airblast, but there should at least be some minor thing you can do reliably to escape. I suppose they could make a ball and chain melee weapon, -20% damage, when equipped gravity increases 200% making you drop faster.

Then the 1v1 would go airblast, switch to melee and whack pyro, pyro switches to melee, switch to primary and rocket jump out of range then spam rockets. The pyro could counter this counter by using a degreaser for fast weapon switch back to primary for airblast, or by having game sense and knowing that his opponent is using the ball and chain, and not equipping melee when baited.

It adds a lot more dynamic to the 1v1 with a pyro rather than just puff blast sting dead.

On the other hand, adding a counter to plus blast sting dead is basically a straight up pyro nerf, and since pyro is already broken we shouldn't nerf it any harder.

This is what I mean about mechanical balance vs game balance. We can easily balance the instant win pyros experience 99% of the time with a puff n sting in a 1v1, but that just makes pyro less fun to play and makes game balance worse overall.

It would be interesting to discuss but pyro would need a large buff before any more nerfs.
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>>157393208

Just realised point blank flamethrower dps makes switching to melee obsolete. But I hope you get the point I was trying to make.
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>you will never be invite level good
why live
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>>157393208
>If you know a spy is in position for a backstab you can at least turn around and just take a face stab
Yeah, that's the counterplay. But once he's behind you and going for the click

Being outside Pyro's range, or being within it revved as Heavy, is the equivalent to hearing the Spy behind you. Also let's not forget this is the difference between instant death and delayed death by airblast into combo.

> I suppose they could make a ball and chain melee weapon, -20% damage, when equipped gravity increases 200% making you drop faster

I would like to see more melees but doubt it at this stage. The TF team hasn't been enthusiastic about adding more weapons.

>It adds a lot more dynamic to the 1v1 with a pyro rather than just puff blast sting dead

There is already more dynamic though. Soldier/Demo vs Pyro is about staying out of its range and throwing up timing rockets/pills so that you don't get reflected, or else having a shotgun/sticky battle. Scout vs Pyro involves range heckling the Pyro by darting in and out of close range. Heavy vs Pyro is just basically a counter, and Engineer vs Pyro is a corner-creep fest. So it's not that bad.

gotta sleep so will end here
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>>157393658

kk nn bb and thank you for seriousposting without a tripcode. You're the best.
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>>157393720
goodnight m8
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>>157390321
>I believe that the skill ceiling of tic tac toe is somewhat lower than that of pyro.
wew
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>>157390321
have you ever played tic tac toe
have you ever played pyro
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Post speedsters
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>>157398808
captcha: KILL
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>>157399151
The downvest is objectively the best misc
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>>157398808
>>157399151

post drunks
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>>157399909
Random shit thrown together with a cancer unusual.

GG
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>>157400117

Im selling the unusual so I should be getting some good hats

Trading is fucking cancer I had to purposely undersell just to get people
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>>157400294

>Sell something for its exact backpack.tf price
>No one even adds you or considers it
>Sell something under backpack.tfs asking price
>A huge rush of people just adding you to your friends list

fucking jews man
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>>157399909
beards painted non-natural colours are silly
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I wanna see some love for the Gaelic Garb here. Best cosmetic.
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>>157400742

Its an autist thing for me if the colors arent team colors its trash
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>>157399909
best class desu
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>>157402368
fucking disgusting koreaboo
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>>157399909
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>>157399909
>>157400742
>>157402368
>>157403417


>All stock loadouts

Diversity eh?
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>>157398808
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>>157403497
Stock is objectively the best for demolitions man.
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>>157403903

>>157403903
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>>157403047
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