/rlg/ - Roguelike General

Anyone making a MuMo attempt currently?

first for chei

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Cogmind alpha 11 is out. Can somebody share it with us fellow anons please?

>>157138053
Why did they remove pouncing

>>157138275
Sure, here you go.

https://mega.nz/#!mIkRQIQL!AjO2c7QdByPZfnbp9Zvi4d7eHwqmK4rnohZDB0haDmw

>>157138481
>Why did they remove X?
The first question you should ask yourself is if X was fun. If yes, then there's your reason.

>>157138481
Because it became a god ability

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reposting from previous thread
>>157134659
They can, it just requires a lot of spellpower in Prayer.

>>157139093
My fucking god
Just
Morgoth 1-hit overkill

>>157139093
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4

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>>157139462
It can actually get pretty funny. I was going through vaults for worthy loot to upgrade, and I accidently bumped into the Serpent of Chaos because I didn't bother to find out what that J was.

>>157139635
Serpent of Chaos isn't half as strong in Fury as it is in PCB. But still.
tbqh though you don't even need to cheese Aule to 3-hit Morgoth into a pile of shit, most characters can do that by the endgame.

FUCK just lost the best game I've ever played because I stayed in Dragon form like a retard as Mara kept slinging freezing blasts at me. God fucking shit.

I'm gonna go, fucking, cook some breakfast then kill myself.

>>157139940
Carry the black torch, rouse the idle dead my friend

>>157139940
>Mara
>Freezing Blasts
what?

>>157140341
Probably she spawned with a wand of iceblast.

>>157138541

Thanks anon, you are a blessing

>>157140341
Yeah that was my reaction as well, but it was an unexpected wand.

Actually, thinking about it now (unlike what I was doing then) could I have used that to identify her real copy? I assume her clones don't copy wands too.

>>157140175
I will, anon, eventually. Once I fully calcify my heart in my bitterness and anger.

What is the roguelike with the coolest magic?

>>157141853
None, you're in the wrong genre

Forays into norrendin, Sil and brogue are pretty good.

Name the best Tablord weapon

>>157141853
Depends on what you mean. DCSS and ToME for me.

>>157143931
Broad axe. Get +rage, *rage, trog, or eat chunks for zerkitis. Chow down on them dank MiBe apts, pile on str, and diesel through everything.

>>157143931
Vampiric Exec Axe

>>157143931
Dark maul

>>157143931
Punk and song of slaying

>>157143931
Obsidian Axe and shield of the gong

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Feels gud

>>157144965
>Visions of cumming inside Rupert flood your mind! You cannot pull out of Rupert!

>>157149881
>You nut!
>You nut!
>You savagely knot the rupert!!!
>Rupert has died
>You see here, the Enslaved Soul of Rupert

>>157151961
>>157149881
Who is your Crawl husbando

>>157154448
Boris. Nothing makes me happier than a lair branch:5 boris and end up killing him 7,8+ times in a game

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Why does being a jew follower of jewgod feel so good

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>>157138481
:(

>>157156148
>minotaur
>jew
Jews are master enchanters, summoners and necromancers.
They do not use blades other than short blades (for backstabbing and circumcision).

>>157139462
somebody tell me that there's a super-tanky unique like big J that'll oneshot you with retaliatory auras before it dies

that happened to me as a brawler in tome once

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>>157157069
>circumcision
I thought that was done by biting?

>+2 vampiric broad axe
Should I
I already have powered by death mutation

>>157157069
>They do not use blades other than short blades (for backstabbing and circumcision)

kek
>>157158116
Nigga, what kind of question is that?

>>157158208
What do you mean what kind of question
Is is that good?
I mean currently I just have a whip of elec at D7

>>157158302
Nigga, please...

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>tfw still playing Elona+ all day after the weekend

It wasn't supposed to be like this.
I promised myself I'd take a break.

>>157160149
>Ehekatl hugs you,"Don't die! Promise you don't die!"

>play dcss for the first time in years
>mibe for shits and giggles
>trogg has granted you a gift
>2 needles of confusion
really nigga?

>>157160390
>in years
before you try: you can't eat poisonous chunks even with rPois now

fuck those devs honestly

>>157160565
Fuck you asshole, I do what I want.

Just reached Floor 19 in IA for the first time. Ow, that mandatory sanity hit hurt.
Is it safe to use the circles of monoliths? Or will Various Horrible Things happen, besides the usual chance of enemies spawning?

(Also, is it just me or do enemies keep generating at absurdly high speeds?)

>>157161657
Nevermind, I went insane one more time but gained about three levels and safely !Descended while avoiding ravens, corpses and fire vortexes.

I have a dreadful feeling about Floor 20, though. Is there a boss fight coming? Any preparations I must make?

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>>157162446
Result.

>>157162592
Bretty good.

HELP

HOW DO I DEAL WITH DEATH FIENDS

THIS BASTARD SURVIVED A STICK OF DYNAMITE

>>157164581
Do you have a brain? Think!
Throw him a second one

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This is not dragonform but dragonporn at this point.

>find a motorbike with a side car
>rip out the broken engine and replace with a straight-six diesel
>install a bigger fuel tank
>install a solar panel and a storage battery
>rip out the side car seat and replace with cargo space
This is starting to take shape.
Still need to install a recharging station and some armor plating.

>>157165673
Make sure you put a seatbelt on or you'll hit something and kill yourself.

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My first win.
http://pastebin.com/rKhywWHf
How many games should it of taken me to get here? I have ~100 played.

>>157165417
that's a lot of fukken beholders m8
i hope you have darkness resistance

>>157167105
1

>>157167105
How do you people get monsters and spells shown like this. I only have commands like autoexplore

>>157167105
Congratulations!

>Your ally Duvessa died
>Your ally Dowan died
Hehe.

>>157167409
bigger monitor

>>157167629
you can also change the order of the panels in the .rc

Rank the crawl gods.

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>>157168070

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>>157168070
bloat/10

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>kill a troll
>it drops a troll leather armour

Wait; did the nigga just skinned himself and wore his own leathery skin before attacking me or something? What the fuck.

>>157168235
Hahaha WHAT.
The devs need to shoot themselves ASAP.

>>157168183
this is bait

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I refuse all responsibility for this and demand they make the tele status more visible.

>>157168183
dith should be higher

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>>157168235
IT
KEEPS
HAPPENING

>>157164581
Uh, run?

>>157168235
I guess having to 'c' monsters to get their skins was bloat.

>>157168235
>>157168959
>no more skins
but i have to complete my skin collection

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>>157168679
>>157168959

>>157168959
The troll leather was a sign. The game told you about scales, bro. It warned you, dawg.

>>157169317
Not today, Cruella.

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>>157169565
Wrong link but nevertheless.

DDA story time:

>go to a military outpost
>bunch of npcs standing around
>go to the basement
>lots of zombie soldiers, whatever
>four security bots
>run away and shut a door on them while being shot
>dig out that power armor from my car that I've never used
>wandering around half blind since I can't wear my glasses
>zero stamina since it has a ton of encumbrance
>bludgeon the bots to death, taking no damage from their shots and explosions
>keep exploring
>grenade hack suddenly in my face
>can't hit it with 50 torso encumbrance and no stamina
>eh I'll be fine
Then it exploded and killed me.

I guess the lesson here is that contact lenses actually do have a use.

>>157169740
I always use my contacts first, rather than the glasses.

>>157167105
congrats

i gave up after like 300

>>157167105
In /rlg/ a 7% win rate is the expected value since everyone here is a shitter. So it should have taken you 14 wins. Very disappointing showing.

>>157174169
>wins
>games to win

>>157174169
Beginners should use minotaurs, hence there's no excuse for not winning on the first try.

>>157174169
>So it should have taken you 14 wins.

What did you mean by this?

>>157174628
See the shitpost below my shitpost with the correction.

Can you beat DCSS as a fedora tipper?

>>157174169

can anyone really be considered a shitter at dcss? its just whoever cares the most to not get bored enough to try and kill something that you havent encountered before

its like calling stealth games skillful or something, anyone can do it its just kinda boring to play super cautiously

>>157176000
t. shitter

>>157175786
get your demigod win while you can

What solutions have various roguelikes developed for avoiding the curse of horrible early game?

>>157176000
what kind of trash stealth games have you played?

>>157176468
Crawl: removing bloat

>>157176468
In the next trunk update, you'll start at level 10 in the Lair. Campbell is my mom and he reads me removals every night before I go to sleep.

send help

>>157175786
yeah there have been some atheist dcss wins posted here

Please post a download of Furybando, thanks.

I had a dream where i was playing crawl and there were monsters aligned with some gods and they attacked me because i worshipped a different god.
That would be really fun.

>>157176000
It's a joke, anon. No one really cares about their win rate in DCSS, because that would be infantile and we are all adults here.

>realized I haven't actually played a tabber in months
>load up MiBe because memes and free wins
>TP and Heal wand by D:6
never happens on harder combos.

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>>157177091
wurf rite?

>>157176987
Got removed due to being bloat.

>>157177367
Why is Mummy so comfy?
Potions and Food truly are nothing but bloat

>>157177352
yeah you can probably take all that

>>157177484
Felid: hands are bloat.

Does anyone still play Demon?

>>157176942
found this on the angband.oook.cz forums:

https://github.com/Geozop/Furyband

not the original maintainer though; he disappeared years ago

>>157177557
octopode: armor is bloat.
>>157177958
i can safely say that ayayaya is the only autist still playing demon.
there isn't a lot of replay-value tbqh

>tfw at this very moment i'm pretending to be a girl on the internet pretending to have lesbian sex with a straight girl on the internet

i've lost control of my life boys

>>157178105
>I have to compile it myself

I don't know how to do THAT!

>>157178163
what game

>>157178272
there's a windows compiled .zip in there

for some reason he isn't using the "releases" section for it though

>>157178309
tumblr

>>157178163
>Straight girl
No she's not

>>157177557
Soon there will be a ghost race without slots
Its advantages will be immunity to both torment and dispel and growing base resistances

>>157178497
so basically mumo

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The fuck.

>>157178497
>noslots race

tell me that it has decent UC so that i can play a spooky ghost berserker and pay no attention to any items except scrolls/potions

>>157178163
Not a roguelike. Post about it on your conveniently placed blog.

>>157178917
New greatsling name I think?

How am I able to inspect an item from my inventory in Furyband? hitting i followed by the letter of the item doesn't work, lol.

>>157179554
probably capital "I"

>UPS-compatible recharging station
>UPS-modded welder, electric forge and mess kit
>Vehicle welding rig, forge rig and kitchen unit on a single tile
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Can't decide whether I should build a FOODCO buddy, or just UPS-mod the individual parts. There was a large power substation not too far, and I just dismantled some machinery for like fifty power converters.

>>157178961
I hope you like enchanting and summoning then

>>157179650
could be fun

>>157179609
You're right, and then I have to actually hit * to see my inventory, is this just how ToME2 was or did Furyband fuck shit up? Angband and PCB don't control this way.

>>157179824
I think that's leftover from old Angband and even Moria.

>>157179824
there is an option in pcb, sil, and angband for that behavior (automatically displaying the full list instead of requiring you to press *)

angband/pcb have that turned on by default, but you can probably turn it on in fury too. just poke around the options menu

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Now, I realize this seems dumb, but I've noticed my damage output has lowered since I've changed my weapon. One would think having speed, +STR and +5 would make this a better bow than a simple +1 flaming longbow, but I'm not sure anymore.
Having said that, do you think I should use this or the longbow? I'm probably just rolling low on my attacks and that's why I think it has worse damage, so I need a second opinion.

Is it worth it using an early Wyrmbane way before you can enhance it by killing dragons and shit?

>>157180235
>shortbow does less damage than a longbow
really gets that old noggin working

>>157180025
>>157179824
While we're on the general subject, isn't there some way to bring up a character log in Angband, like what depth you killed what unique etc?

>>157179708
Nah, as soon as it gets fun, it gets removed.

Oh, I have a good idea for a race now:
>tortoise(kin)
>naga speed
>high armor
>if hp gets too low, hides in shell gaining resistance but losing ability to do anything except consume consumables
>starts with a mutation that makes you have 50% less fun

>>157178115
>there isn't a lot of replay-value tbqh
But you get to be a part of the development process by bitching at the dev for X build not being strong enough.

>>157180447
>shortbow of sanic +6 billion
>vs lolbow of being a gay flamer

>>157180235
Is this bloat, or an interesting decision?

>>157180560
I was thinking about telling him about this thread to ask for feedback because those faggots on r/Roguelikes are too busy playing jew rls, but the other anons would sperg out.

>>157180462
don't think so
that's a specific crawl feature

although you CAN bring up a list of which uniques are dead/alive

in pcb it's under ~ but idk about fury

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>>157180971
Same thing it seems.

*unzips demon whip*

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T-thanks

>>157180905
>but the other anons would sperg out.
Why's that?

>>157183030
Now you'll see that unseen horror!
And die to it.

>>157182909
*teleport behind you*
*unsheathes holy scourge*
psh...nothing...personel

How do I get Maidensnow Eve to work?
I installed the rtp, the game, patched, and switched my computer to nip.
Just opens to a black screen.

>>157175786

Yes, because gods are bloat in general. They're only there to reduce turncount depending on your playstyle if and only if you win. Since you most likely don't care about reducing your total turncount for a higher score, they do not matter = bloat.

Do I stick with Dragon Form or use the Dragon King Armor and Blade Hands?

I mean, Dragon Form hits like an atomic bomb, but the Armor puts me at like 32 AC and almost 50% GDR

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>>157186401
Forgot pic

>>157186401
GDR doesn't matter

If you can actually cast bladehands with the armor on then it might be ok, getting to that point will be a big xp investment. I wouldn't bother unless you really need the resistances for something.

>>157186719
>GDR doesn't matter

But everything punches my dragon in the face. I almost got oneshotted by a filthy green slime which wasn't even titanic.

axelord here
should i change to maces if i find a randart +7 elec whip?
I've heard that whips are shite, but a +7 elec sounds gud

>>157187335
if you're early enough in the game for it to matter, you're early enough in the game to stick to axes

>>157187065
...those are speed 10. literally walk away

anyways gdr only helps against melee and there are very few FAST, hard-to-avoid melee threats juggernauts i guess?

>>157187335
elec whip is good early on but whip is too shitty of a base type to scale into mid/endgame

just keep training axes and use the whip off of the crosstraining

>>157187417
Miscast dragon form and summoned some angry cockroaches in a corridor.

Kind of weird how a mighty flying dragon would be blocked by that but at least I didn't fucking miss three times in a row

>>157187415
>>157187417
it gives me rpoison so i'm gonna keep it for lair

Is brooch of shielding + Warlock's mirror worth giving up regen amulet and a regular shield of reflection for?

>oka gives me a randart +7 longbow
time to invest on ranged, boys

>>157187582
This is why the summon butterfly spell from the book of party tricks is so good
>takes 1 spell slot
>can instantly crowd an entire corridor

>>157188313

>butterfly

next to removed or nerfed hard better look out for your scummy """"""""tricks""""""""

boys i found a chill flail randart
it feels like the game is forcing me to change weap schools

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Gud vault. I suppose there's gonna be loot behind the spectre though.

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IN PCB as a weaponsmith, can you enchant weapons an unlimited number of times to get endgame ultrafuck killblades of supermurder, or is enchanting somehow limited?

>>157188705
>MiBe

boringgg

>tfw no scummy mummy gf

>>157189008
I know, I just wanted something I didn't have to worry about after getting my shit kicked in as MuMo in lair a few runs in a row.

>>157188827
i believe the enchantment is capped based on your level

for maximum endgame enchant spamming you play as a psion, take everything to +23,+23 (which only they can do), and then drink !newlife and replace your enchant power with a more useful one like psi storm

without counting rare shit like exec axe, which is the best weapon type, axe or mace/flail?

>>157188115
prolly

>>157189258
Onehanded — mace, twohanded — axe.

>>157189258
axe has situational benefits of course

greatmace is better damage-per-xp than battleaxe but if you can't get to a corridor and you're forced to fight 2+ dangerous things at once then axes are superior

>>157189258
You're pretty much guaranteed to get a D.Whip eventually, almost always before the end of depths. Plus Great Mace is topnotch and hella common early

>>157189258
Axes > Long blades > Polearms > Short blades > Shit > Garbage > Trash > Rubbish > Maces&Flails = Staves

>>157188827
okay i actually checked

looks like the max enchant scales with your level as some quadratic function

you can do +5 at level 1 and you can do +20 at level 50. scrolls of enchant and the Craft spell only go up to +15 so you are better at enchanting than anyone except a psion

>>157189258
Axe, because extended is such a clusterfuck. It takes like 26 skill though so don't expect much use out of them before the pans.

>>157189369
>>157189413
>>157189414
>>157189542
welp, i'm going maces then.
i guess the crosstrain would help me if i find a randart exec satanic axe, but meanwhile i'm going to bash things to death

>>157189542
>Polearms that high

Apart from Wyrmbane, why?

>>157189804
maybe he plays a lot of Wz and IE

>>157189804
>that high
It's only above small blades and literal garbage

>>157189804
Bruh you get one whole extra attack per combat!!

It for real does have nice synergy with summons and Hep in particular.

>>157189862
m&f are better than polearms tho

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>>157178115
And even then it's mainly for the streak. I've gotten so good that dying is impossible outside of fighting Lioth or linking with Actaceon, and a roguelike without splats isn't fun.

>>157180905
IA dev posts here without anons sperging outl. Shouldn't be a problem.

Hey, /lit/ told me to go here for an .epub of Infinite Jest. Anyone got it?

>>157176987
I had a dream where I got a cursed amulet of inaccuracy, but when I used remove curse it became an amulet of blessing w/halo

To this day I occasionally forget that doesn't actually happen

>>157190085
maybe you, the best Demon player, should tell him to come to this shithole.

Why are Discs of Storm allowed
I always hear
>b-but you'll get yourself killed with it!
Except that's never the fucking case with rElec and a god like Makhleb, even on a fucking Octopode with trash AC I could clear zigs by abusing it

>>157177958
Yeah. It's been several days since I have managed to get much of any characters past Anomaly, though. I'm trying all sorts of new things but so far not much success, and certainly nothing worth posting.

>>157189804

Must be some Kiku shitter lmao without a single knowledge that polearms is just plain tedium

>>157190194
>>156998460

>>157189242
>>157189556
neat, thanks

>>157190365
Thanks.

>>157190365
That was the most fun this thread's been in a week.

>/lit/
>on /rlg/
what the fuck i don't even

>>157190869
Great minds think alike mate

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>Something hits you from afar
>Fighting an adder skeleton alone in a corridor

>>157190976
>it's a sigmund spawns with a +5 scythe of freezing episode

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>>157191085
>it's a Jessica spawns with a +9 club episode

>>157190085
>or linking with Actaceon
That shit has no right to be so difficult. Which one is Lioth?

>>157190869
books:
>display is entirely in ascii on a 2d grid
>no "save/reload" system
>completely non-modal

yup, they're roguelikes

>>157190869
/a/ /d/ /mu/ here lad.

>>157191454
Lioth is that one supportive summoner who appears in the midgame who can spawn with a midgame unique.

>linking with Actaceon
I swear I have only pulled this off once. I have also got to link with Artemis once, but I didn't get anywhere after that because there were still a ton of hounds left and my party was good as dead.

>>157191649
/mu/ /lit/ /sci/ here
post you're favorite album, scrub xD

>>157191670
That fight specifically requires Soul Eater on everyone you're using for it. The hounds are even weak against Dark, which means they give more healing.

>>157191803
>>157191649
>>157190869
/mu/ /lit/ /a/ here

What is even the point of actaeon? He's got tank stats and abilities, but is loaded with weaknesses. Is his modifier any good at least? I know it has the debuff cries, but the buff cries are way better.

>>157191831
I gotta admit there's something so amusing about having agony and doing that sort of link with dark-weak enemies. I can imagine doing the links with the ice-weak bandits are also hilariously easy if you got those tuofei attacks, one which isn't limited by a cooldown and in one case you're with a unique that can easily kill the bandits (I'm not sure about linking with Ninkasi yet).

>>157180508
>>if hp gets too low, dies
How is that different from any other race?

>>157192027
For all I know, he's good for linking with Pele. Given evade step, he'd become even dodgier with something like a "dancing" attack. I figure one of the latter physical modifiers are good to make him more powerful. I am not so sure about his modifier, especially the speed de-bonus. But given what little metagame there is so far, someone could be creative about it and make good use of it.

>>157190085
>IA dev posts here without anons sperging outl. Shouldn't be a problem.
I thought the problem was attracting redditors, who will no doubt destroy the thread by writing "TIL" and posting grumpycat, devaluing rare pepes, etc.

>>157191803
I don't consider music other than death metal to be artistically valid.

Hey guys what's the best Angband variant after Sil, PCB, and Vanilla if that counts? Preferable something not completely insanely long?

>>157188115
the shield of +rmut "elfkiller" is pretty good, i'd recommend it for all characters

>>157192027
>I know it has the debuff cries, but the buff cries are way better.
debuffs are great. put buffs on a different demon

>>157191803
Return to the Center of the earth by rick wakeman

Going to sleep.
Good night, sempai.

>>157192381

I don't think you realize the difference between "hp getting too low" and "hp became 0"

>>157190869

>4chanbabby learns the existence of crossboarders for the first time

>>157193251
me too
>tfw waking up in 4 hours

>>157193613
We should probably figure out "/rlg/core" media.

>>157193613
Hell, this thread is so niche we don't even have more than 50 IPs, so having /mu/tants and /lit/ faggots here feels kinda weird.

>>157193767
someone needs to create a version of "/a/'s taste in anime vs other boards" where /v/, reddit, etc have all the latest and greatest roguelikes and /rlg/ just has a bunch of crawl pictures

>>157192381
actually it's
>if hp gets too low, get F R E E damage resistance while you wait for teleport

although really you should've teleported before half hp

>>157193456
If your HP becomes too low, you're petrified except for quaffing/reading. You're also slow, so you can't avoid fights either. Unless the innate defense boost is really gih, I don't see how that's a winning combination. If something can hurt you through your AC/EV/SH, it can probably hurt you through +n AC 0 EV 0 SH. All you can hope for is that you have teleportation/fear/blink or HW potions. If you don't have either, you're screwed because you effectively have less HP than it actually appears you have.

>>157193934
Give /rlg/ SLEX, DCSSCA, and CDDA screenshots, actually.

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should i munch them all before they rot?

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>>157192482

>glowing rune since rMut removal
fucking painful

>>157194191
Munch them all before they get removed because of bloat.

>>157193908
we also have /d/eviants and /mlp/edophiles
although those might be the same people idk

>>157194142
>no poscheng
for what purpose

>>157192482
There are like 8 people who play demon, who cares if one of them goes to reddit and comes here too.

>>157190869
the two boards are pretty similar
elitism (YA, roguelites)
spooks, bloat
fixation on dumb philosophical documents written by literally whos
/rlg/'s meme trilogy: crawl 0.15, cdda, pcb (last one up for debate)

>>157194483
Wow, I didn't realize /rlg/ is now a board. Thanks Hiro.

>>157194410
PosChengband can be fun for something other than novelty's sake, in my experience.

Yes yes, I know my opinion is wrong. No need to post about it.

>>157194096
an auto treeform race could be funny

>>157194589
>not slender body with cow skull head

>>157194483
mumo = finnegans wake?

>>157194524
/rlg/ has too much traffic so it's going to become a pass only board. have fun while it lasts

>>157194572
it's just that poscheng is pretty much exclusively an /rlg/ roguelike

>>157194589
[X] Genuflect

>>157194690
finnegans wake = IVAN

>>157194589
post this on tavern (^:

>>157194703
The point is to make /rlg/ look bad.

Also not true at all, it is played far, far, more often by oook.cz posters (discounting people who post on both) than people here (including people who post on both).

>>157194821
>pushup bra
>high heels
far too problematic for that shithole

>>157194410
>>157194572
someone posted a repo here with a fork of elliptic's fork of poscheng that had a stupid long name, put that instead

>>157194821
>post this on tavern
Man does that place gives me cancer.

Thank god EVERY idea that pops in their damn head isn't instantly put in the game.

>>157194928
pseudoelliposchengband is forked from elliposchengband is forked from mpa-poschengband is forked from poschengband which is a descendend of chengband which forked from hengband which forked from zangband which forked from vanilla angband

(i think)

>>157195178
perfect

wait shit should i distinguish between english zangband and japanese zangband? i think that was a thing

>>157195178
Pretty close actually. Only things missing are a couple technicalities.

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I just don't know, man.

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>>157194589

>butt Hinony

>>157195558
pls i spat out my drink

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>>157194589

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>Good run so far in Rogue Effect
>Pressed F5 to brighten my screen
>Accidentally use my Ops Shield Packs, because pressing F5 is apparently the same thing as pressing 5

>>157195857
>press 3 to use a cobra missile
>forget to switch back to normal gun and waste a second missile on a helpless nonthreatening chump

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welp after a nice start this is how it ends. polymorphed into a pid surrounded by hostile animals.

>>157197815
quaff cancel, TP wand out?

>>157197815
how did you end up in that corner

>>157197815
That's a nice Fault you got there, anon. Mind if I save it?

>>157197815
Next update they're making it so that if you get pigged you drop everything you're carrying.

>>157197815
>all that unid'd shit

>>157197815

good riddance for no int minotaurs

>>157198850
i ended up playing the cards and ate/quafed a load of meats and pots and lost like 2 int through the whole bit. also i ended surviving thanks to rng storms killing the caster.

so i found a +10 longsword of the priest {distort, -tele, rpois, mp+9, int+7} and i've trained maces exclusively. what do?

>>157200287
>distort, -tele
don't be a pussy

>>157200484
chuck it in the stash then?

>>157200287
smash dat mf w button

>>157200650
yes, this is surely something you won't need now but will need later

>>157200287
That's a pretty swag Staff of Wizardry.

>>157200287

you won't even cast a single level 9 spell for the whole duration of that game whether you win or not for that to be relevant

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quaff heal wounds then TP?

>>157201318
hw, haste, tp. (you don't want to get hit with elec or distortion)

next time keep a para or conf wand around, they're more useful than they get credit for

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>>157201572

>>157201663
curing x2 then make a retry or run for it

>>157201810
Yeah I got out.

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well rlg, i think i may actually be able to do this over time
coding is fun

what would you want in a roguelike that hasn't been in one before?

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>>157201972
>tfw too stupid to code
Achieve your dreams for the both of us Anon.

>>157201972
roguelikes without a level system are underexplored

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>>157201905
maybe I'll finally ascend Hu

>>157202182
My ass is underexplored but that doesn't mean it shouldn't stay that way.

>>157201972
Being able to harvest parts from your enemies to replace your own body parts like this was a game of fucking Nechronica.

>>157202327
>He doesn't want prostate orgasms

/rlg/ - shit at roguelikes, shit at cumming

>>157201972
exploding dice

>>157202464
I said underexplored, not unexplored :^)

>>157201972
randart everything

everything needs to be id'd

>>157202182
even though armchair game theorists always say xp is BLOAT deep down everybody likes leveling

>>157202337
this but you are a skeleton and turn yourself into a mega skeleton with the bones of your enemies (bone wheels, 20 arms, hydra mode). you do not regenerate, if you run out of unbroken bones you die. drink your calcium

>>157202780
deep down everyone likes being a badass ninja, you cant be a badass ninja if you have to murder to get more ninja skills

>>157202887
Yes you can, you just feel the progression from weakass ninja to badass ninja.

>>157202983
this isn't rocky: the roguelike, there is no training montage, badass ninjas start off badass and use their resources + environment to survive

>>157202337
that's not a bad idea actually

>>157201972
Make a 3ds port, please. I want an ascii roguelike on my 3ds.

>>157202596
>he doesn't want to anal vore his wife's son

>>157162306
There's a mid-boss fight where you clear some mummies in a tunnel leading to a throne room with an assfuck ton of various mummies. Like 20-25

End boss you gotta fight the high priest who's bulky and does a ton of shit that doesn't matter cause basically you haste, buff up and bukkake him with explosives, tovs, smokes, paralysis potion/darkbolt axing, elec guns, tommy/sawnoff blasting, and wall spike pinning

>>157165673
Yeah, shame you need at least 3,000-5,000 storage to carry basic supplies, tools, materials and spare parts

>>157167105
You're on par in the people who aren't retards bracket. so pretty good.

>>157168679
TURN

BASED

GAME

>>157169740
Yeah, two things. Immediately run and you'll always be at the edge of the explosion when it goes off. The dev specifically made it account any pain slowdown and shit you got. If you wont run, use your pocket glock or longbow to shoot the hacks down. Grenades are incredibly cheap to make and you can clip the grenadier with them so you don't have to get closer to hit him with the bow/glock. When he dies he primes any remaining hacks so you gotta sprint the fuck out of there. Especially now since explosions are basically retarded and don't care what your armor is

>>157179637
Get a foodco. Otherwise you need to make a fuckton of the components for when you do batches.
Just wait until you get a ups powered gun, joint torsion ratchet, solars, internal furnace, and the ups cbm. You'll be eating 2x4's and ejaculating lasers at everything with 9050925092095 power

>>157187065
GDR doesn't matter because you virtually never have enough AC for that to be a significant factor in your armor choice.

>>157188132
Do a CeHu or HEAM some time. Longbows are kind of eh if you don't have amazing apts, haste/finesse, and song of slaying. At least crossbows can get penetration so it's still worth something.

>>157194191
Up to you. On one hand, it mostly stabilizes at around 6-7 muts 4 of which will be good and 2-3 will be bad. How worth it that is to you depends on your build and race. A tabber wearing a CPA is gonna be severely impacted by deformed body. A caster's gonna be hurt by placid magic. If you get teleportitis you'll be chucked into enemies a lot. Decide if turning your body into a randart is worth that.
>>157197815
Read fear twice and next game actually id your shit.

>>157201175
That's almost an enhancer worth of int and that's still relevant for the L6's

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why do enemies shout at you when they see you?

>>157205998
the noise wakes up their friends so they can also shout at you

>>157205312
>The dev specifically made it account any pain slowdown and shit you got
If that's true it's hilarious. It would just be sitting there as my 50+ encumbrance, zero stamina guy limps along. I actually killed one earlier by shooting the hacks and burst firing him down, but this time I couldn't see because you can't wear glasses with power armor and had no inventory because it has no storage space.

First time trying power armor and I'm not sure what to think. You're basically invincible to most things but incredibly crippled so you're helpless against something that can actually hurt you. Might help if I could have actually powered the thing, but still.

>>157207331
yeah powering it removes the encumbrance IIRC

i really wish the power armor hauling frame that gives you actual inventory capacity was more common or craftable or something, because as it is currently the inventory space thing just makes it too annoying to use

>>157205998
OI ITS THE FOKKEN ADVENTURER INNIT

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>>157205998
They scared

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>getting a raiju as early as Ccoa's sanctum
What's better to get so early?

>>157210243
>Chew Mi gum
>Still fault left and right
>No idea what I'm donig and always fug up and splat in demon even when following pasta builds.
Feels bad to be so retarded that even good stuff is wasted on me.

>>157205312
Exclusively UPS powered guns have never felt all that powerful to me before, personally. Sure the fusion and plutonium guns are good, but those are precious resources, and the railguns are fine but the military one was ridiculously rare ammo and the crafted one is a one-shot wonder. The laser rifle and pistol on the other hand just don't compare to ballistic guns. I guess they're useful as a very last resort if you're out of bullets for the guns you have, though.

>Shoving all those power generating CBMs in yourself.
Man you need some space for other stuff now that there's slots. Internal Furnace alone is 40 of your 80 torso slots, and I think Solar panels are 20. Don't remember what joint torsion is, but either way you don't have much space for anything else if you're doing.

>>157211196
Yeah, but they're like longbows, and pneumatics. they let you tab the chaff

>>157211424
yeah there's a big difference bewteen having lots of something and having infinite of something

see also blink/haste consumables vs spells in crawl
a character with lots of hastewand charges still just uses them in dangerous situations, a character with castable haste spends every single encounter at +50% speed

actually that spell got removed, maybe it's a bad example now

In DCSS you generally stop training your weapon skill once you reach mindelay, right?. How is it with spells? Do you stop training them once you have them at 4-8%?

>>157211424
I guess, but I'm always traveling as light as possible so I'm not in the habit of carrying backup guns, just a main one to use on anything I don't want to melee.

Not directly related, but man I still don't like the survivor gear nerfs as a melee. I'll always miss all that extra storage, nowadays the regular stuff isn't that great protection to encumbrance and you'll start eating penalties hard even for just one backpack. Light survivor gear isn't worth shit. Am I really expected to close a door and drop half my inventory before every fight?

>>157211925
Weapons depends. You get more damage but you need soem fighting for acc and hp, armor for ac, dodge for ev, shield for sh

>>157211936
What you're expected to do is put your armor on, pack as many explosives as you can and clear the town. Once you can, you'll be using a vehicle welder to make a cargo space shopping cart to hold extra explosives/tovs, longbow, arrows, tools, comestibles, excess banadges and disinfectant, zombie pheramones, loads of caltrops, a couple bear traps, blade traps, and other shit. Then you go duffle bag up and loot the now cleared town checking every block if a horde spawned nearby. You'll use holsters, scabbards, pouches shoulder strap/wear, and harnesses to hold your smg, longbow, some pistols, a 00 shot pistol, and your bonker so you can always shuck and sprint if you turn into a hulk street. Yes, it's as stupid and tedious as it sounds.

>>157211925
For spells, you always want more to shift your dice average up. 10 int for an enhancer, no added benefit for wearing an enhancer after 3 item enhancers, spellcasting also helps if it's something like hexes where you can't get actual enhancers

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>>157212237
>Yes, it's as stupid and tedious as it sounds.
Yeah, I was about to be sarcastic as shit about the 'correct way to play' these days until I saw this line.

Back during Brin and back shopping carts were both better AND more optional with all that duct tape spam, better encumbrance mechanics, and deeper pockets all around. It's really backward to make something worse while expecting me to lean on it more too. Shopping carts don't even help that often if you're semi-nomadic like me, and like hell if I'm gonna ram my vehicle into reasonable looting distance with THESE repair times.

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>>157211925
Depends. If you are trying to get all your bases covered, you can have your spells that low. After you get everything you need — get more spellpower, less spell hunger.

>>157212514
I like carts cause you can always have your phat stack of consumables and tools with you while sacrificing as little armor as possible for storage. It's much easier to just bull through. then you can drive your little car around looting. If you're an rv nomad, you can either vehicle weld a little bike with 5 or 6 cargo spaces, use a cargo space pull cart, fix up a junker from town, or go sledgehammer a path as necessary.

The autists that want it to be a work of art rather than the sandbox it is are really shitting it up. It's one thing to require cranes and super mega jacks and shit but it's another when they're not reasonably available. And if they're reasonably available then they don't matter WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE ABSTRACTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Makes me so fucking mad every time they addm ore tedium that does nothing good for the game.

>>157212794
I have a set base and take extended trips to the surrounding towns, basically. If I'm still playing by the point where it's become an inconvenience to get somewhere new, I pack up and move to a new good spot. So I can't really use a cart much unless I build something on the spot like you said. Which is tedious and wastes time. I can't even believe you'd suggest I fix up a junker though, that'll often eat up an entire day of time at the least, and it's gonna last for all of five seconds if I fuck up while weaving through zombies.

I really hate the booms, especially since they don't actually let you MOVE an engine if you're trying to put it in something that isn't adjacent to both the boom and the engine. Yeah I know how to scum the engine over where I want it to, but that's probably not the intended method for whatever simulationist put them in.

>>157213258
No, you clean the area first so you don't have to weave. If you must, just make a fucking longbow and some decent arrows. You can solo anything below a hulk. if you're driving you can free up the space for arrows and a quiver. Park when you see shit and engage from max range then just drive on.

>>157213467
I don't wanna clear an entire town or sections of a town of zombies as a semi-nomad. That's the very definition of wasted time right there.

>>157210147
Nice free xp

>>157212237
>shopping cart

i just make my car normalish size instead of one of those bus-sized monstrosities and drive through the town

>>157213743
Zombies are gonna tear our your tires or engine trying to get at you some day.

>>157213932
First thing you do once you have the parts is move them and the tank inside so they're not on obstructing tiles to get beat to shit.

>>157202182
Brogue, Forrays Into Norrenden, Frozen Depths, that other Brogue-like game that can only be played online, Gearhead 1&2, the various IVAN variants and IVAN itself, The Slimy Lichmummy, Sil, and that's just off the top of my head. I prefer leveling desu

>>157202780
>randart everything
>everything needs to be id'd
Tome does this and it's terrible. There are 200 different egos that have 2000 little stat differences and most of them don't matter.

>>157216334
tome doesn't do the second part at least
everything is auto-id'd

heck some starts even get the tome2 version of the stone of lore in their starting inventories, although i don't think you actually need it

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>page 10

>>157157108
I mean
There's postgame
Shit goes down in postgame hardXXXcore dungeon I forgot the name of

>>157219815
Heaven and hell

>>157219970
in Fury there's something called the Abyss or something
I forget

What roguelike has the best postgame?

>>157221153
PostGameBand

Why is there no pasta or anything for The Slimy Lichmummy?

>>157210147
>I'm not locked in here with you
>You're locked in here with me

I haven't played since they removed Mountain Dwarves. Did the game actually become good?

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>>157221540

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I'm having a roguelike burnout. Help me find something new.

So far it looks like:
>ADoM, Crawl, ToME, DDA - burnt out on those
>Poscheng - also burnt out even though I didn't explore half the options in the game
>Brogue, SiL, IA - muh clean design that allows for interesting tactical choices, but not fun
>Demon - fun but replay value lower than rukthrower's IQ
>Elona - sounds grindy as shit, mechanics-heavy and horribly designed in the sense that you need to wikifag to play it well. Didn't actually play it though, just judging from posts
>Cogmind - feels so fucking unrewarding when 50% of your "leveling" is undone during every major fight
>CoQ - old version is a buggy mess, new one has le ebin anti-piracy measures. Also horrible early game, mutation rolls make it feel like you're playing Demonspawn and hoping not to get slotrape muts. And then you get 2-shot by something.
>IVAN - feels like I have to learn the metagame more than the game itself

What did I miss? What should I play?

>>157221630
Play Forrays or Dynahack

>>157221496
3 people play it

>>157221540
Yeah, download and have fun.

>>157221630
Brogue, Sil, IA, and Forays into norrendin are all great
Talk shit about demon when you're actually good you fucking faggot.
Elona's not like that at all. Unsurprisingly, you have to learn how to play a game to play a game. How terrible.

>>157221736
>3 people play it
That's the point, if it had a pasta or something telling people it existed, more people would play it

>>157221630
MaiDenSnow Eve
Corin's Mystery Massacre
Rogue Effect
DoomRL
Dwarf Fortress adventure mode

>>157221630
>there's all these games that I've never tried
>but for various reasons that just comes down to me being a pansy I don't want to learn them
>pls help

>>157221839
Seconding Maidensnow Eve. A virgin 1cc is fucking based

>>157221837
SLM is shit, though. I don't see why anyone would want to play that.

>>157221736
>Brogue, Sil, IA, and Forays into norrendin are all great
Maybe, but they're just not fun to play.
I'm not a tourneyfag, I want a game that is more than just rushing through cleanly, bloat-lessly designed dungeons because a hunger clock is chasing you.

>Talk shit about demon when you're actually good you fucking faggot.
Muh self-imposed challenges, muh 10 win streaks.
Fuck off, if it stops being fun after 3rd win, it's time to drop it and wait until it gets replayable.
It's great until you win and get the Ito-tier ending. Then fun quickly wanes.

>>157221889
>all these
>just Elona

>>157221986
That and who the fuck would want a pasta for a half hour basic as shit piece of thing

>>157222053
Cucked spineless betas too scared to play a game without handholding

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>>157222002
>forrays
>hunger clock
Have you not actually played Forrays

>>157222002
Oh! I got it then. I have the best roguelike for you.

It's called

Wait for it

Rogue

You should play it some time

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Holy fucking shit
I read the pasta, I have gemstone and herbed food and I eat my breakfast and love my fire dragon every day
I bless my potions of potential and invest into my mage shopkeeper

But I did not know you get free +skill potential points with level-ups

20% potential per POINT

>>157222403
If you actually read the pasta you'd have seen the part where they say save it until you hit the cap for plat per improvement. Or don't.

>>157222002
If you're unable to have fun with Brogue, Sil and IA you should just take a break from roguelikes for a while.

>>157222602
Brogue is a fucking bore.

>>157222663
Say that to my jellymancer and not online and c wut happens Yendor