Ace Combat General #255 - /aceg/

First for bullying warcrimes!

Second for bullying warcrimes!

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Third for post your new player suggestions for VGL and I can start bugging /@/ for Anya

Also, music suggestions if you wanna change anything (except Mobius' one, people love it)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD34b9lnkq0

Fourth for foodsies and stuff

Fifth for bullying altman.

Doing my bimonthly check in. Now that TGS and a few Sony conferences has passed, is there STILL no news on AC7?

>>156280385
Start bugging /@/ for Anya

>>156280930
nope. The expectation is something at PSX but we really will just have to wait and see.

repostan for the new thread.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11336288

Where is everyone tonight?

>>156286328
Beats me

>>156286328
At home, looking at some IGN vids
Got some news i wanted out of it
New Deathwing trailer, a film coming this winter that looks pretty good, and a new look at some games
New Armored Core game aww yee
IGN is still a corrupt meme tho. A shame

>>156280075
>>156280128
What would you do if I started enjoying the bullying? Just curious.

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>>156283991
Thanks anon. Here's hoping for news soon.

>>156286974
You already enjoy the bullying, because you enjoy any kind of attention.

This is basically foreplay for you, you pervert masochist.

>>156286974
Well warcrimes, the joke is on you, because I'm a huge flaming homo.

>>156286923
desu there isn't a single gaming news website that's any good. Polygon is ok sometimes but they get kinda memetic at times too, like the simcity review.

They have funny fluff pieces though.

>>156287886
>Polygon is ok sometimes
>they get kinda memetic at times too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujtfN7hCdo

>>156287886
Giant Bomb is good.

Though they've broken out from just news and reviews to more general video game entertainment.

>>156287576
Please don't anon, I don't want to get yelled at for lewdposting
>>156287653
CUTE
U
T
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are you that one homoanon? What's your favorite plane?

>8 unique posters so far tonight.

As of right now, /aceg/ is 37.5 explicity homosexual, counting Warcrimes, Altman, and that anon.

>>156280385
Bring us our slav goddess you madman. Also, I vote for HERE COMES THE BOOM.

>>156290149
actually 2 of those IPs are 'that anon' you mention (PC and phone) :^)

>>156289748
I love GIant Bomb! Totally forgot about them.

>>156288138
Honestly this video is amusing to me but I can see how it wouldn't be

>>156289979
hi

>>156289748
Don't know if I'd really call Giant Bomb news anymore, they're more like a 'comments on the industry' site.

>>156290149
And I am going to bed
Postan from phone, there is no new IP
Don't let it die

>>156291438
h-hi

>>156291438
plz be in london

>>156293642
Kek'd heartily but anon you know i have a bf already

>>156293837
what he doesn't know won't hurt him

He'll probably share.

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It's that bird emblem...

>>156297050
Ace Combat 6 looked so fucking sexy. It's a damn shame I don't have a 360, I'd love to stream it for you guys.

>>156296437
Why is nobody complaining yet

You're literally talking about spitroasting me with another boy

How is /aceg/ not RRREEEEEEing?

>>156297050
The duck on the Schnee emblem always makes me laugh

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>>156297181
It's still the best looking Ace Combat desu

The newer games have it beat in technical areas like screen and texture resolution but AC6 had the best art style.

Those fucking missiles man.

>>156297181
>>156297757
For all the bad memery associated with dancing angels, the graphics make you really feel like you're in a giant midair dance of death

>>156297270
nobody cares about you arguing with yourself

It's just what we do

>>156297181
the missions are also some of the best
you should be able to find a 360 for cheap though

<<RISE RUSEGRIZ>>

I always love the first few missions in AC4, you keep expecting a plot twist or something but nothing happens
Especially the radar mission, you get a mission update and think "oh shit, I'm about to be chased by an unbeatable swarm of fighters" but no, it's just a return line tutorial

Where were you when warcrimes went schizo?

Prove you love your planefu.

>>156301838
Then right you get mission update "oh well it's just some shi-HOLY CRAP EVERYTHING IS SHAKING DEATH EXPLOSION RAINING FROM HEAVENS"

>9

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>>156301953
>implying it's not anons that get off on bullying

fun fact - a cat claw trimmer makes a perfectly good wire stripper in a pinch

>>156306826
Hi thunder

>>156306907
would you believe me if I told you I'm just some random anon

>>156287886
Siliconera is great but all they really cover is weebshit and western derivatives.

And even then they don't do AC news in-depth, though they do cover it.

>>156303504
<<MOBIUS ONE, DESCEND TO LOWER ALTITUDE>>

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>>156310953
Speaking of, I finally have my Mobius 2 F-22 in Infinity. Finally, I get to do Stonehenge with the proper plane!

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Should I get the Stars and Stripes Nighthawk or the Red Devils Hornet, /aceg?

Red Devils looks cooler but it seems like kind of a dinky multirole for post-2000 rooms, even at high levels.

The Nighthawk on the other hand is an attacker and might get more mileage at higher levels, and it also has a good visage for showing off as MVP, if nothing else.

>>156279794
>Port never (ever)?

>>156312546
fuck off

>>156312735
Suck my dick, puchifag

>>156312929
the thread isn't even fucking dead enough to warrant your "huur duur game is ps4 exclusive ecks dee" shitposting
drink bleach

>156312546
>156312735
>156312929
Discussing ports is seemingly one of the ways to trigger violence on this general

>not hitting > twice so that someone "wont get a (you)"
this is the most retarded /v/ kiddie meme I've seen on this site yet. Seriously, drink bleach.

>>156313057
Have you stuck your finger up your puchi's ass?

>>156313330
Kill yourself

>>156313443
>>>/v/

>>156313359
>>>/@/

>Haven't visited /aceg/ for a while
>Someone shitposts about console-exclusivity bullshit
>A faggot spits his autism about the gremlin creatures from Idolmaster
Is there anything else worse than this?

>>156313661
Absolutely

On the internet nobody has to know that I am a puchi.

I'd literally take homoposting over this. warcrimes and Altman where are you ;__;

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>>156297757
>Mfw deciding between buying an X360 for AC6 or PS4 for AC7

>>156314994
Easy. Buy preowened xbox and ac6, then return it before your time us up. The game isn't that long.

>>156315394
How's the replay value compared to AC5?

>>156315523
not (quite) as good, way fewer planes
the missions are huge and you can go about them a bunch of different ways though
I guess it depends on whether you prefer plane or mission variety

>>156314994
think about it this way, even if you're an old lady on a fixed income if you get a 360 now, by the time AC7 comes out you'll have the money to get five PS4s

>>156316035
sad but true desu. I don't expect AC7 before middle of next year at the very earliest and by then we'll have a PS4 price drop for sure so you won't have to pay more than $250 for a slim.

>10

>9

>>156287886
>All gaming news and review sites are corrupy shitholes
>Christian website actually manages to make objective reviews and write them in an interesting way
I'm still amazed it's a thing.
https://www.christcenteredgamer.com/index.php/reviews/handhelds/3ds/6272-shin-megami-tensei-iv-apocalypse-3ds

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>>156313927
I don't think I ever figured out Altman liked guys. Huh.

Anyway have some of what Yellow Squadron should have been

>>156328289
>>156313927
But I'm not. I'm just very tolerant and quite like warcrimes bullshit from times to times. Quite funny
Also friends and gay innuendos

>>156325246
Fuck me the game is out? Ah time flies too fast.

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Anyone here got the full version of pic related?

>>156330948
In american regions it already did, god knows when it will for yurop.
Thank god I already hacked my 3ds ages ago.

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>>156331993

>>156332419
>666 kb
lel

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>>156332419
Thanks for that pic
>666kb
See pic

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>50th Flight officially disbanded
Rest in pizza black panthers.
At least they're sending back their Tornados near me.

>>156333380
What nation were you from again

>>156334465
Mighty land of Pasta.
Italy.

>>156334661
Wait I thought Altman was Italian

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All right, just to make things clear regarding our roster, it will be almost the same as last time - people suggest new names (including former players), and the ones to cut. Might change the percentage for rejection depending on how many you want to cut so the top newcomers replace them accordingly.

This is our good ol' piratepad, go check and make suggestions if interested. I will make the poll based on that as usual. Let's keep it rolling for a week or so.


http://piratepad.net/luSoZ4E886


>>156281821
>>156290312
Regarding Anya, I've got in contact with /@/'s management and so far there's no problem on adding her, but I think it's not polite to start a generals turf war so we could shortlist her with an /aceg/ related name (Anya Emblem, Queen of /aceg/, whatever) and if she doesn't get in /@/ again we keep her name. This can all be discussed above

>>156336091
Nemo, do we have a chance to battle /dsg/? If so, im interested to see the fight

>>156336371
Signups are due in a few weeks. Then there's the groups draw, so it depends if they actually get a manager and sign up back (it didn't participate in VGL6). As this /dsg/ would be a pot 4 team so we could face them in group stage as a pot 1 team. It's all speculation though.

>>156336091
Sounds like a plan.

>>156336371
VGL matches are based on a four-pot draw done about a week before the games start. There's a chance, but it depends on whether or not /dsg/ signs up, and then whether or not the commissioners rig together a match

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>>156336678
Alright, lets wait for more news

>>156336752
Anon, is there a chance that our soccer field would be a stonehenge or a burning Osean emblem in the middle?

>>156336935
It's up to Nemo, mostly. He's probably the most familiar with the inner workings of PES

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>>>/qa/706294
Some people are vouching to delege /vg/.

Looks like it's time. This twisted game might just be reset for real.

>>156337752
Honestly, there's a lot of unnecessary overhead, especially with some of the newer and much more dead boards. Shoving off some of them, combined with not removing all of the ad revenue sources and some infrastructure downgrades, might go a way to reducing costs

>>156306907
>Thunder
>doesn't capitalize or punctuate.

>>156330625
"I'm just very tolerant of cocks in my ass."

>>156336043
Why is it that you amis have so much trouble remember where people are from?

>>156339168
Because you're obsessed enough for the world, kraut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFinnI6lRCs

Semi related, but Area 88 is dope AF

>>156334661
This general is ded anyways, so out of curiosity what is your opinion of Mussolini and the fascist movement?

I’m not one of those “Hitler was the greatest man to ever live please come back and ravage my boipussy” types, but I’ve been doing some reading lately and the understanding I’m coming to is that the early fascist movement (distinct here from Hitler’s Nationalist Socialist movement) did not have a definitively racist component and was less economically socialist than Nazi Germany. If I understand right, the idea was to recover the glory of the Roman Empire, itself a distinctively multiethnic society. Jews were allowed to engage in politics in Fascist Italy, for example, before closer ties with Hitler drove Mussolini to adopt some of his racialist policies.

This is the history of your country, so if it’s wrong feel free to blow me out, but I am interested to hear the perspective of a native Italian on this. Germans talk all the time about Hitler (both for good and ill) but I don’t think I’ve ever heard an Italian talk about fascism before.

>>156337752
How come Moot kept this south-african animals appreciation forum working so long but hiroshima shuts it down after what, one year ?
>>156336043
i'm from France m8
>>156338985
0/10, you can do better
Free (You)

>>156340642
Moot was letting it run on more or less a stable course, but the introduction of the pass should have been an indication that things weren't as nice as they seemed
It's only gotten worse with the new boards Hiro introduced. At this point, the chan is hitting significant bloat

pol keeps getting us in the news, so maybe that's a sign that more mainstream advertising is looking our way.

Of course, like 90% of this site uses adblock.

>>156341241
I'd honestly be happy if /pol/ was removed, but the boards that need to be cut are small ones.

>>156341241
>a sign that more mainstream advertising is looking our way.
If anything, it's probably driving advertisers away. They don't want to put their brand on anything that's controversial, lest they get burned for it

>>156341314
This, right here. Some boards are beyond fucking dead, and they're taking up unneccesary space and bandwidth at this point.
I'd also venture to say that some of the newer boards, like news and qst, really don't need to exist. They were a poorly thought out solution to relatively minor problems

This thread should be deleted.

only way to save 4chan. do you duty.

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Any actual pilots in /aceg/?

How did you get into it?

What do you fly?

What do you like most about it?

I know at least one guy a is military pilot in the Navy, don't know if he's still around though.

>>156343512
>Any actual pilots in /aceg/?
Yes
>How did you get into it?
By applying
>What do you fly?
Planes
>What do you like most about it?
Flying

>>156339934
Here everyone tend to see Mussolini as satan himself in most of italy because after fascism some tried to engage in actual russian communism, which is probably still doing damage.
Basically all the schools and instruction were in the hands of the left, which means that either you went on and did stuff yourself to know more on the matter or you could just parrot the shit they taught at school, which is an half truth at best.
The biggest problem with the party was the collateral violence of the exalteds, mostly because at the time the leading artistic movement for fascism was futurism, which was an exaltation of technology, strenght and violence.

To put it bluntly, it worked, without it we would have been africa-tier as of now.
Base ideology was to go back at the romans age where shit worked and everybody gave their all to make it work, and thanks to either goodwill, propaganda or sometimes violence
it actually did.
While opinions vary, I believe it did more good than bad to the nation, and we had no alternatives anyway.
Italy varies too much to actually work together, both the territory, people and cultures are too different to find a common goal, and we still hate eachother for squabbles happened in medieval times.
As for racism, it was kinda weird.
Until the germans actually came themselves the racial rules weren't really enforced when they could and even then they were less oppressive.
As for multiculturalism, areas like Istria and the Etiopian colony were pretty weird.
Istrians after the conquest were considered 100% Italians, but they were forced to Italianise their surnames to fit in.
post WW2 communism did the same while killing half of the population as a bonus.
The conquest of Abissinia was pretty bloody, but the quality of life there improved a lot, to the point we actually "wasted" a lot of money since we had no actual gains from that.

I got a cold just yesterday and I'm afraid I'm making not much sense

>Now Silvagunner is dead
All things must return from where they came. To dust

>>156341314
>He wants to delete /pol/

You get butthurt over a few small leakers that pop up in here. Imagine how bad it will be when they migrate en masse.

Hint:
It'll do as much damage to other boards as refugees are doing to europe.

>>156344303
No, you're coming off just fine.

I mostly ask because it's become apparent to me that a lot of the problems the West currently faces stem from deficiencies of character and lack of faith in a moral code. The founders of America were pretty unanimous in the opinion that free society could only function if inhabited by moral people. Looking at the mess that currently surrounds us, I'd have to agree. Furthermore, freedom without morality not only creates awful effects, but also trends towards ending itself anyways. It's the most amoral segments of society that push for stronger government, and I think that's because even they understand on some level that if people cannot control themselves, the law must in turn control them.

If we want to preserve the maximum amount of freedom we can have, regaining a shared cultural moral code is an absolute must.

I'm interested to see if there could be a middle way between fascism and the Anglo-Liberal tradition, a balance that combines enshrined political rights and free markets with formal government recognition of an innate cultural identity and strict enforcement of moral codes, combined with youth programs to re-introduce traditional values into the population.

Part of the issue with that ties into the phenomenon with Mussolini you described: generations of leftist brainwashing has trained the entire population to react allergically to any mention of the idea that there are right and wrong ways to behave, and that people are compelled by duty to do the right thing, not just if they "feel like it."

>>156346310
Here the entire governament is a joke big enough everyone knows.
Higher ups and mafia keep doing their shit, poor people remain poor and the middle class just gets poorer and poorer.
Keep in mind that before the whole fucking middle east and Africa decided to shit up the place we were already invaed by criminals from Romania, Albania and other borderly subhuman countries.
We are the only place in europe where it's legal to be nomad, an none of them has actual document or works.
Our entire governament is entirely run by corrupts, mafia men or straight up criminals, but nobody gives a shit.
A napolitean soccer player gets a red card and the population went in riots.

>9

>>156346845
It's a mess, no two ways about it.

Europe has always been ahead of America in nearly every trend affecting the west, and this is likely where we'll be in a manner of years. This already sounds too familiar.

There are no easy ways out of our situation. Generations of westerners going through progressive propaganda centers in lieu of getting an actual education has made democracy useless for almost any purpose, good or ill. The political and financial elites understand this and distract the population with breads and circuses while introducing legislation to "help" the poor and in reality just strengthens ties between big business and politicians and walls off the elites from the rest of the population. American "democracy" is nothing more than a sham and this most recent displays that better than ever. The elites weeded out Sanders and nearly eliminated Trump. Even Trump himself demonstrates that not just anyone can run for president; you need money, and in an economy that is becoming more and more socialist you can't just work your way up the ladder anymore. Increasingly complex regulation and insane legal fees mean that it's not enough to have a good idea and a strong work ethic, you need money to make money, and if you don't already have money you can't make money. And if you don't have money you can't run for president. As a result, we have an aristocracy in all but name.

On the other hand, abolishing democracy carries it's own extreme drawbacks. On top of being abhorrent to the political traditions of the West, it also creates a very real danger of violent excesses against our enemies or perhaps running amok and destroying what we hold dear.

I don't know what the answer is. With that said, I've basically resolved that if the West is going to go down in flames either way, I'd rather head six feet under being able to say I did my damnedest to stop it.

So
How bout them videogames, huh?

>>156349013
If you want to talk videeoh gaymes then give me some (you)s, bud. >>156311728 >>156343512

Otherwise I'm tired of trying to jumpstart conversation that never goes anywhere.

>>156348143
My hometown is an important industrial center of the north and it's been 4/5 years in which the birthrate was over 50% in favor of non-italians.
If I don't get shanked before I'm 100% dying in a civil war in here.

>>156349013
Playing something good?
I recently finished the last Ace Attorney and it was incredibly good, second best after AAI2.
I'm currently playing The Witcher 3 and SMTIV, I wish I had more time to finish them.

>>156349013
You know, on the one hand I'm concerned about all these guys discussing how much better they seem to think fascism was (unless you happened to be one of the guys that disagreed with what their "morals" were).

On the other hand, Ace Combat has always had a sort of pseudo-political side to it, so it may not be entirely unrelated, and they're being civil about it, so I don't exactly want to say no, either.

But let's try to shift the focus back to planes. What prompted this discussion? Is there something up with the Italian air force?

>>156345492
and then they get banned and slowly migrate to cripplechan and shit. I don't get you people. Containment boards are a bandaid, the wound they cover is festering and maggot filled. Fixing it requires pulling the bandaid off, yes, and it will suck for a bit but within 2 weeks it'll improve.

I really seriously think that /pol/, /b/, /r9k/, /soc/, and /mlp/ could be deleted and we wouldn't lose anything.

>>156343512
I've flown a couple times, but don't have a license. I did a discovery flight a month ago, and flew a T-6 Texan like 10 years ago. Flying is fucking amazing and really fun but holy hell you better be a rich ass fuck if you want to support that hobby.

>>156349553
/b/ was down for like a month in 2008 or so and /v/ and /x/ are STILL infested with the cancer left over from the overflow.

>>156349393
Not really related to the discussion that spawned after, just a flight getting disbanded and an ace squadron luckily surviving and getting moved to a base near my town.

On the matter, anyone lives relatively near to an air base here or has been to an airshow lately?

>>156349553
While we would lose absolutely nothing they serve more for the purpose of containment, deleting them would probably shit all over the other prominent boards.

>>156349754
Did you read what I said? "containment" is a bandaid, a hack that doesn't really work. How many boards does /pol/ leak into? How many boards have /v/ kiddies being contrarian shitheads? How many boards have /b/tards posting garbage?

In the end I suppose I really don't give a shit so long as /ck/ stays around. /vg/ going the way of the dinosaur would suck but /aceg/ is the only general I actually like for non-shitposting uses and I'm sure we'd find some way to still hang out.

>>156349245
Dedicated attacker always beats multiroles

>>156349393
Just squadron shuffles, it looks like

>>156349292
Just more boats. Trying to move down the flight deck/catapult quest line but can't move without both cranes

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>>156349754
I went to an air show at a naval base about a month ago and posted some pictures of it here.

Here's the imgur gallery:
http://imgur.com/a/MRaTA

I had some webms too if you wanted me to repost them.

>>156349553
>and then they get banned

Which means virtually nothing. You seem to be forgetting that getting "banned" on an imageboard means taking 5 seconds to reset your router.

Ironically dudchan is an excellent example of this.

This dumbass meme where "I love imagebaord culture and we need to preserve it by getting rid of things I don't like" needs to die. Reddit is an insufferable hellhole for a reason, and if you like that setup just head over there. If you hate Africa don't come to Europe and make it a little slice of Africa, and if you hate forums don't come here and make it into a forum.

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>>156349942
I misread the first part, sorry.

>>156349993
I just need fucking akigumo to show up again

>>156350030
Ah right, I remember them.
Blue angels livery is sex, I love it.
Last one I've been to was a Freccie Tricolori exhibit last year, nothing special, but they are damn good.

>>156350158
Banning, as insignificant as it is, is still a deterrent.

I really would have no problem with /pol/ and its ilk if they didn't shit up literally every board all the fucking time. And you know as well as I do that there is a happy medium between no moderation and too much, which is exactly what we need to hit.

>>156350030
neat album, the F/A-18 in aggressor paint looks cool as fuck

You people seem to think that getting rid of /pol/ gets rid of the posters.

A large majority of them will just be more /pol/tastic on their home boards.

>>156350514
Just do your 30/30/30/30 dailies, she shows up once in a while for me

>>156350519
>Banning, as insignificant as it is, is still a deterrent.

No, it is not.

If you knew anything about cripplechan's issues with moderation you'd know that A. moderation does not increase board quality, and B. you can never underestimate the autism of people who have no lives outside of the internet.

There are people who will spend multiple hours a day manually spamming your site because they feel like it. To implement the kind of control you want you need strict control and who can post on the site. If you try to get done the sorts of things you want to get done using a registration-free site, all you will do is continually frustrate yourself and sully the waters for everyone else. SA is only $10 and already has everything you want.

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>>156350514
>akigumo
Just do your dailies like >>156351378
says, I get akigumo 5-7 times of the entire week of doing my dailies.

>euros buttblasted that they finally have to deal with more than one culture in one place
>they jump straight to destroying the freedom that western representative democracy and human rights guarantees represent

>>156351990
>engaging
let the wannabe fascists burn themselves out. They're really no more or less dangerous than the edgelord commies you find elsewhere on the internet.

>>156351791
The only way to fight autism is with autism. I still maintain that if /vg/ had better mods and more of them it would be a better board.

>>156351965
>KC3 in japanese
Now there's something new to me

>>156351990
Democracy does not guarantee anything. Democracy is a process by which decisions are made, not a guarantee about what kind of decisions are going to be made. Genocides and tyranny have occurred under functioning democracies.

Euros are not happy because they are being forced to cohabitate with barbarians who kill, rape and steal all that they hold dear and they are told they are racist if they object to it. No matter your feelings on white imperialism, punishing a great-grandson who has never lived during the time of imperialism and has never engaged in the behaviors you hate is not justice.

And asking the Europeans to be complicit in their own destruction deprives them of the most essential human right: that of life. The Europeans have every right to be angry and then some.

Reminder that we should probably start laying the groundwork for this winter's VGL. More details up here >>156336091

>>156284979

It appears Stalker won, so that is on for tonight around 6-7pm EST.

>>156353613
>.T.A.L.K.E.R
Get outta here, conversationalist

>>156353720
I found that more amusing than it had any right to be.

>>156353098
Of course not.

That's why i said "western representative democracy," (didn't figure i'd have to explain to you) which is a shorthand for, you know, the governments of the west. Most of which have laws guaranteeing human rights.

Also you seem insecure about the legacy of imperialism, which is hilarious because you brought it up without it even being mentioned prior to your post.

>>156354947
The thing about democracy is that laws can change. IF you import enough Muslims who vote for sharia law, you get sharia law.

>>156355770
this is why we don't have direct democracy. This is literally exactly what the checks and balances are for - to prevent tyranny of the majority.

>>156355912
In the US.

Not true for every country.

>>156356104
Most western democracies have some form of checks and balances. A purely democratic system is inherently flawed.

>>156354947
>>156355770
Thing about democracy is that it doesn't work if the great majority of your population is retarded.

>>156354947
It is under "western representative democracy" that so many human rights have been sacrificed on the alter of social justice, so you're not doing your argument any favors by calling attention to the fact that "western representative democracy" is what we currently have.

Personally I believe that colonialism was a moral imperative of a superior people and it is not a coincidence that crime, vice, and self-hatred set in over the exact same period that the West abandoned the colonial system. However, many people seem to see it as a great evil and argue that Europeans have an obligation to make up for the sins of their ancestors, which is why they must open the wealth of their countries to formally conquered peoples, no matter the consequences for the people who are living there here and now. I brought it up because many people who glorify "multiculturalism" and the destruction of European culture base their arguments out of colonialism, which is an invalid approach even if you abhor colonialism.

>>156356671
To clarify, when you say superior people do you mean in a racial sense of white vs black and brown, or more in a sense of a more advanced society uplifting another?

>>156356671
What the hell are you even talking about though?

What human rights have been sacrificed in any way relating to social justice? How do those concepts even relate at all? Are you equating people telling you not to be a racist asshole to a violation of your basic human rights?

You sound like you're just spouting buzzwords at this point.

>>156357108
In the UK, people are literally being arrested for tweets.

>>156357446
Okay. That's bad. And how is that not fascism, the type of government this anon seems to want? How is a government that is MORE imposing on its citizens going to fix that?

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This thread got a little weird somewhere.

>>156356879
Culturally. The Europeans were a superior people because of their moral compass and work ethic. Race had nothing to do with it. The fact that Europe was a barbaric, backwater region with no real civilized accomplishments during periods when China and the Middle East were centers of learning and civilization clearly indicate that race alone is not enough to hold true to civilization. This is the mistake that NatSocs always make; by equating race with civilization they blind themselves to the dangers of barbarism that lie in every society. The fact that the situation reversed and China and the ME became backwater while Europe emerged as a center of order and learning should indicate how delicate that civilization is.

Nor is the current predicament in Europe unprecedented from a historic scope. Many a great Islamic Empire fell because as the society became more wealthy, they became lazy, less disciplined and gave themselves over to vice and "compassion." Willingness to use military force in expression of national dominance go hand in hand with dedication to rule of law and civilized society; there are no known exceptions, modern Europe included.

>>156357652
Eh, the games philosophize enough about politics and nationality
Seriously, though, how bout those videogames folks?

>>156358043
You ready for .T.A.L.K.E.R?

I've never played it, is it full of spoops?

>>156358210
It's about as post-apocalyptic slav as you can get
Ready your cheeki breekis, and don't forget to flip off the bloodsuckers

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If we're going to have this asinine discussion about politics, can I talk about how much I wish we could get along with Russia without our governments being James Bond villain tier assholes?

I don't know how to explain it really, I just really want Russia to be our friend, but Putin's an asshole.

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>>156358345

>>156357626
If you'd bother to read the whole conversation you'd see that the conversation is not about fascism itself, but about finding a "middle-way" between fascism (dedication to cultural identity and rule of law) and Anglo-liberalism (civil rights and free markets).

When people get arrested for tweets, what has happened is that rule of law has been substituted for the rule of man: there are thousands of regulations and no one is really sure which ones apply when but there are enough of them that some social worker with a stick up her ass can arrest anyone for just about anything.

What is desirable is the opposite: there is a set a minimal, clear-cut rules covering the basics of what is needed to preserve and free and civil society, and they are enforced consistently across the entirety of society. If, for example, extra-marital sexual activity was criminalized, then this law should apply equally to all citizens, from the trashman to the president, and the punishments should be known beforehand and carried out accordingly.

The issue is not versus big versus small government (though having a small government helps significantly with maintaining the integrity of the law) but rather making sure that society is governed by laws that are blind, not people given to passions and grudges. That was the most central issue to where the fascist movements went wrong.

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>>156358210
Yeah it's spooky as fuck.

>>156358945
fug.

I am both dreading and looking forward to playing this.

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>>156359095
>He's never played S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
You know you have to play it now. Want some help setting the game up?

>>156359796
Setting the game up?

I mean, it's installed, what more do I need?

>>156360381
Patch it until version 1.0005, tweaks to actor.ltx so you won't play as a manlet/be able to go prone, etc.

>>156361138
Mine is version 1.0006

>>156361386
>1.0006
Ah, steam version, right? It's all fine then. You'll have to "unpatch" it back to 1.0005 if you want to play the game with mods in the future though.

>>156361545
Was just planning on running through it as 'default' for the streamings.

Dunno if I'll be investing a ton of time into it after it's done.

>10

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>>156358537
>tfw you just realize this is shitposter-kun

>>156365758
>I disagree with someone politically, and I can't refute their ideas directly through reasoned intercourse, so I'll just label and ridicule them in an attempt to discredit their ideas!

>>156366372
This is regressive left debate tactics 101.

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>>156365758
>>156366372

warcrimes is the real shit poster.

If people are done politicing, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. in 30 to an hour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nC5TBv3sfU

Or if you aren't done politicing, it could be better done in the stream chat.

>>156358537
I'm sorry, I honestly did think you were shitposting. You know, minimal, clear-cut laws are exactly where most of these constitutions started, which is why I thought you were just pretending to not understand why current laws have been edited as they have been. Unfortunately, it's impossible to create such a "minimal laws" document. This is because technological and societal change occur, and nobody can forsee such happenings. Take, for example, slavery in the United States. I don't think humans should own other humans, as that limits the rights of the owned to an extraordinary degree. As well-intentioned as the founders of the US were, slavery was legal under the United States Constitution. This, obviously, required edits and additions to laws previously on the books.

"But this is just one edge case" you may say. Well, so is every case where the rights defined in a constitution are infringed on. Some legal blindspots exist, and therefore a mechanism must be in place to protect them. Thus, any document that intends to express rights, and then consistently protect those rights, must necessarily be edit-able. And with editing and additions being necessary, the document will as a result grow longer. That is why regulations exist.

However, in many places interest groups (LGBT community, corporations, etc) have the ear of the government. Why is this? Because they exist at the frontier of the laws, in those aforementioned blind spots. If the law is monolithic, unable to be added to, and blind, by extension it will be unable to protect the rights of all.

>>156369104
Where at?

Anyone have a pastebin link?

>>156370463
So sure, there exist bad laws. But when you look overall at the legal systems of most western countries, the law gives everyone a fairer chance now than ever before.

>>156370507
http://pastebin.com/wp2xP5yN
Cheeki breeki cyka blyat

>>156371039
>>156369104
Alright, people can start heading in now.
\
Get hyped for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. soon, fellow stalker.

>>156371395
Usually, people heed the call, you know

>>156370463
While social and technological changes do require altering the laws, they require extensions to cover new changes, not alternations in the fundamental role of the law. This is not what has happened. Marxist thought has influenced many generations of busybody bureaucrats and naive utopian reformers. Much of the perversion of democracy in which we now find ourselves is due not to enfranchised people voting things this way, but unelected officers appointed by underhanded politicians and special interests redefining fundamental provisions of the law without public consent. This occurs are precisely the same time as a dumbing down of public education occurs, and children are taught what to think and not how to think. As a result, most people in the West are not aware of the vast changes made to the legal framework without their knowledge or consent.

People being arrested for tweets in Britain shock many people, but these legal frameworks were created long ago, via redefinition of what constituted "danger to others" as a subset of "hate speech" that occurred in the academia and political circles, outside the view of public eyes.

We don't disagree on whether limited government is ideal; what we disagree upon is whether we still have it.

>>156370685
Completely, utterly, and entirely untrue.

Look at Affirmative Action college admittance policies. Aside from a very few politicians and bureaucrats, nobody benefits from this, least of all minority students. Many white and Oriental students, are turned down from prestigious colleges in favor of less qualified applicants. This does not help the college, the nation or the individual make the most of their talents. Conversely, many other minority students, who on the whole are less qualified due to worse high schools, are shunted upwards to a college bracket at which they are more likely to fail. Blacks and Hispanics were making greater economic gains before the 60s for a reason.

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Plane?

>>156377182
WHO PAID YOU TO GRAB PRESIDENT HARLING

>>156377182
F4U

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>1 to 9 in 15 minutes.

I don't think the good lord intended us to make it through Sunday nights lads.

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>>156378598
>>156378639
>Playing Infinity
>Emergency Sortie flares up
>INTELLIGENCE AGENT ESCORT I

>>156373135
I wish real life was like Area 88.

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>>156380534
>[MISSION UPDATE]

>>156378668
This is the wrong general for senrans

>>156383674
Sorry bud, I just save pictures of big booby anime ladies. I don't actually play any of that crap, that's for permavirgin nerds.

who needs an army when you have Mobius 1?

>>156384313
>I don't play games for permavirgins but I do fap to pictures of big anime tiddies
I don't know how to make sense of this.

>>156386231
Pretty much every dudebro has fapped to anime at least once, if only Pokemon.

It's some take it to the grave shit except for with their closest bros, but yeah, most have done it. Some even like it, though they keep it on the DL.

>>156385575
ISAF apparently

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>dogfighting at 15000 feet
><<WARNING, INCOMING FROM STONEHENGE>>

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>>156388437
>taking out ground targets in AC7
>new super weapon is a EMP railgun that'll tempararily shut off you aircraft and make you fall 10,000 feet

>>156390013
that would be pure bullshit

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I hope 7 brings back these missiles.

>>156390697
this is Ace Combat, not Macross

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>>156390013
Probably some weather control device or something.

You guys ready to dodge lightning?

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>>156390892
That's a silly thing to say anon.

>>156391481
>flying through a thunderhead dodging lightning bolts while shooting down jammer blimps with active cloaking so your allies can blast open a door in the mothership for you to fly through and destroy their targeting system to bait them into shooting themselves

<9

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Who likes air shows?

god, the F-2 is a fucking spaceship in 4

>>156397929
What do you mean? It's been about 10 years since I played 4 but I don't remember anything odd about it.

>>156398158
it just handles way better than it should
compared to an F-16 it's ridiculously maneuverable
bagging yellows like a pro

>>156398421
Well, it IS an upgraded version of the F-16.

Infinity loves to meme that it's an attacker but it's actually a proper multirole in it's own right.

Plus it looks sexy as fugg.

>>156400553
I'm sure there's a mini out there that can do 200+ MPH, but that doesn't mean it feels normal
maybe it's like that in every game and I just missed it, but I remember it being pretty sluggish in Zero

>9

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>that pattern

What did they mean by this?

>>156405128
smoke leaves every day

>10

Just in time.

<<RISE>>

>last post 2 hours ago
<<Wake up!>>

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Oh the belkan cup emblem actually looks really good.

Don't forget to check >>156336091 and help in the VGL effort.

>>156391481
I like the idea.
Though it seems uncontrollable/too close to what Excalibur did (shooting rays of light from the skies)
Inb4 we get bullshit laser drones that can do "what the fuck" maneuvers.

Also good day

>>156420886
It might be cool if instead of a single thing like excalibur, your radar instead looked like the 'avoid the radar mission' in 5. As in, there's more spots than could be struck than not.

Alternatively, 'climb above 35,000 feet to avoid the lightning storm.'

>9

>>156398421
Even the F-16 is hilariously good in AC04.

>>156424963
Actually, now that I think about it the MiG 29 in 4 can basically stack up to anything else pretty well.

>>156425275
Are you watching the cute boy anime this season?

>9

>9

>>156427361
>>156428592
What did he mean by this ?

>>156429071
He meant "bump the thread before it dies you dumb gay frog."

GOTTA STAY FLY

>>156358945
>>156359796
>Open these webms
>instinctively look for the . .'s

>>156429138
>bullying Altman
rude tbqh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsdggeg3rW0

good song

<<Come on, it's payback time!>>

>10

>>156434624
>1010

Anyone emulate the PS2 games on the recent PCSX2 dev builds yet? Some guy made a HW mipmapping hack that fixes 90% of the visual problems.

>>156438220
I need help emulating, cause i dont know how to in the first place

>>156438220
>>156439467
Yes, it's near perfect. There's a glitch where helicopters seem to glitch around but other than that its basically there.

t. supergauntlet

>>156440382
But i need to get it and im too stupid and lazy too myself

>>156440382
*seem to teleport around

>>156439467
>>156440496
Anyway what confuses you? I don't mind spoonfeeding that much and anything that lets someone enjoy their childhood again is good to me DESU.

>>156440593
I just need to get the emulator, then find out how to run either 4 or 5

>>156440760
The emulator is easy enough. Go here and download one of them.

http://pcsx2.net/download/development/git.html

Next you need the bios. You can Google around for ps2 bioses and find them without too much issue. You put that in the bios folder of pcsx2.

You can find the isos for 4 and 5 on emuparadise.

To turn on the mipmap hack you need to go to the inis folder in pcsx2 and edit GSdx.ini. Add the line 'UserHacks_mipmap=1' without the quotes to the end of it and save. Then set the renderer in the gsdx settings to hardware and let it go. If this is too confusing I'll make an infographic sometime.

>>156440382
I agree, it works, map textures aren't glitching anymore. Sadly, my 7 years old PC is too weak to run it stable. Most I'm getting is 25 frames, so it's basically unplayable for me.

>>156442037
In all likeliness you can probably build a computer for less than $300 that can emulate all of them. Less than $400 for sure. I know you're in Europe so the prices are likely quite different there though.

>4chan pass members have shorter cool downs
what the fug

>>156441186
what do i do with the isos of 4 and 5?

>>156442247
I know, but I have some other stuff I need to collect cash for now. Anyways, it's great to see how emulation scene as a whole evolved over years. I still remember some tech wizards saying emulating PS2 won't be able at all. Not even talking about black magic running PPSSPP emu.

>>156442412
In pcsx2 you can load a game in the menu. You just use that dialog to load either game. It should be CDVD -> load iso or something.

>>156442601
I mean it's still taken a damn long time. Look how much more mature dolphin is, and that is emulating a console of very similar age. That said, I think the 360 and ps4/xb1 should be a lot simpler.

I don't expect the ps3 to ever be well emulated, or if it is it will take at least as long as it's taken pcsx2.

>>156442764
Man im sorry, i can't im a visual person. I will just stay in /wtg/ with Ace Combat Skins

>>156442247
>less than $400

Please, elaborate on this.

My $2,000 computer can barely emulate them acceptably.

>>156442764
>dolphin
Shit, man. I almost forgot about it. That's one hell of dedication.

>ps3
Yeah, da powah of cell. On the other hand, I almost completely skipped the emulation progress on X360. Anyone tried do push it somehow?

>>156442980
don't worry, I'll make an infographic or something of the like sometime. I'm busy today though, hopefully you can sit tight 'til then?

>>156443080
Emulate the ps2 ace combats in hardware mode, not software. There has to be something very wrong if you can't emulate even in software mode desu. Post specs.

>>156443090
Dolphin is really impressive both in how well it emulates and how good the project actually is. I think the Xbox emulator progress right now is slow but sure. I see posts about it on /r/emulation and the emulation general occasionally.

>>156442980
CDVD-> iso selector -> browse

Now, choose the path for your iso and double click it. Now, go to

System-> Boot CDVD (full) or Boot CDVD (fast). Latter one will skip PS2 mandatory loadup animation.

>>156440382
Anyone else still getting the problem in AC04 where the sun and some effects are drawn incorrectly? Skipdraw gets rid of it, but results in most effects not being rendered at all.

Let's say, can a i3 with 4gb ram run it?

Trying to run STALKER, stream it, and have a Web browser open at the same time has shown me that it's time for me to upgrade my comp.

Maybe I'll even be able to emulate ace combat once I do.

Is there a minimum specs for that?

>>156443913
A strong Intel CPU and a decent GPU (either nVidia or AMD will do but nVidia has far superior openGL performance). For reference I have an i7 6700k at 4.5 GHz and that has no problem emulating ac5 and acz. 04 runs at ~90% full speed but if you ran it in PAL mode you'd be fine. My GPU (r9 290) lets me run in hardware mode at 3x internal resolution (1920x1344) without issue. Really it comes down to what your budget is, you can probably make emulation work inside your budget if you try.

>>156443665
yeah 04 has the most graphical glitches of them all. It's noticeable in the others but less so. In 5/z you get some weird trails when you pull a hard turn and the water looks a bit weird.

>>156443695
What graphics card?

>>156444254
I have a 960 for the GPU currently, would that be enough?

I'm looking to upgrade the MB and CPU mostly, so I figure about $1,000 for those two would be my budget.

>>156444554
That's quite a lot for that honestly. I built my whole computer for that much and it was more than enough. The 960 is decent but a bit older, though that shouldn't be a big problem for emulation. Since you've got the cash I'd say get an i7 6800k and a good LGA2011 motherboard. That'll set you back probably 500-600, maybe a bit more because you'll need to buy new RAM. Then just save the rest for when your GPU shits the bed.

>>156444254
Intel HD 5500 onboard

>>156445008
Right now I have about 64gb RAM, so I should be good on that.

Looking at the 6700k, if doesn't seem like it'd be that big of a performance upgrade from my current CPU.

How affordable are the 6-8 core CPUs these days? I think that might be the next step up if I can find a good motherboard to go with it.

>>156445732
Don't fall for the 6+ core CPU meme. Per core performance doesn't get any better and may be even worse than quad core CPUs.

>>156445008
>>156445732
Oh, misread 6800 for 6700, my bad.

>>156445970
So what do you suggest?

>>156447742
>6800K is a 6-core
Oh wait I forgot I lived in 2013.

>>156447742
>>156445732
what's your current CPU?

>>156448713
This one: http://ark.intel.com/products/63698/Intel-Core-i7-3820-Processor-10M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

>>156445119
Probably not good enough but worth a try.

>>156445732
No, what I mean is that the new stuff uses DDR4 and you probably have DDR3.

>>156445970
Per core performance will be the same because of the way turbo clocks work and your multithreaded performance will be better for sure. Also, PCSX2 in software mode does benefit from many cores because the graphics is done on the CPU.

>>156448990
A 6800k would be a noticeable improvement but honestly the 3820 isn't that bad. You have it overclocked? If not you should probably do that some before upgrading, the 3820 is still very good.

>>156449125
I've had it overclocked to 4.2ghz, but honestly it has been more or less continuously running since 2012 and is starting to fail. Right now I'm running it at 3.7ghz.

>>156449125
How do I check if it's DDR3 or 4?

Assume I don't have the packaging or purchase slips.

>>156448990
why do you want to upgrade?
keep in mind that you'll definitely need to get new RAM since the standard has changed (DDR3->DDR4)
also you probably won't notice a huge difference in performance if you're just using it for vidya
I'm running an old FX-8350 OCd to 4.5GHz paired with a GTX970 and 16GB of RAM and my machine can handle TW3 smoothly at high settings

>>156449283
oh, in that case go for an i5 6600k with an Asus Z170 and OC the shit out of it
make sure you get a proper cooler too

>>156449402
it's DDR3 because that CPU is not compatible with DDR4

>>156449283
In that case I'd say get the 6800k since you can afford it.

>>156449402
The 3820 only supported DDR3.

>>156449465
desu he's got the cash, I still think he should get the 6800k just for the extra 2 cores.

>>156449465
Streaming eats up a ton of CPU resources, especially 720/1080 streaming. I've hit 100% usage several times, really slows the games down.

>>156449641
What kind of bitrates do you set in OBS? I usually stream at 720p at 3500 kbps and it works fine.

>10

>/ace/g//

>>156452593
9

>>156450756
3000-4000 with no downscaling.

>>156450756
Also I use Xsplit, not OBS.

>>156455827
>>156450756
Well I use both, but I use OBS for console stuff and comfy, Xsplit for PC games.

A bit of an update on streams:
>Ded Spess and Loud Valley will be on tues+thur+weekend nights.
>Canon Belkan Rekan and Ron Paul Does It Again: Adios Feels are postponed for November.
>Metroid Series or "How my Other M fucked up and what her predecessors did right" scheduled for December.

>>156455927
that's strange, I experience basically no slow down with obs on a 6700k.

Why X-split for PC Games, just curious?

>>156456614
Just works better. Easier to set up.

People have commented that it's a lot smoother using xsplit.

>>156457369
fascinating. I've just always used OBS but I should maybe look into that sometime.

What I really want is a streaming software that can pull audio streams directly from the game. Steam manages to do this so surely it's possible.

>>156457908
Xsplit can do that, I believe.

I've not bothered with it, but I think I saw that in the options.

Since we're on the Subject, we'll get back to S.T.A.L.K.A.N. in about 30-45 minutes.

https://streamable.com/wnz0

ASE: top gun edition

>>156462468
looks bretty gud
i think you should make the camera move around a bit to give a better sense of flight but that's just me

>>156462660
Do you mean like a Joint Assault style camera where the plane drifts around the screen?

Also that's our first inhouse model, it's the guy's first attempt at an aircraft and it's still WIP. Definitely going to reduce the saturation on the textures, though

Time for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

http://pastebin.com/9VBe3tPY

>>156462839
No, just in roll/pitch/yaw directions, not x/y/z. The same way 04/5/Z does it, where there's a slight lag between pitching up and the camera following.

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>>156462975

>10

>>156462969
We subterranean horrors now. Spook up

>10

What will it be if Ace Combat is mixed with elements from magical girl anime?

>>156470735
hello, tvtropes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wba6XWbpT-k

>>156470816
Close enough

>10

>>156474673
>9

>>156468291
unspooped.

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>>156470735
Vividred

>>156476707
VividASS

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>>156477256

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very spooky.

>>156478386
thoroughly spooped

I guess I missed the stalker stream.

did thundy get spooped?

fucking hamilton
what a cheeky cunt

>9

>a group of Harriers somehow managed to fly from Belka to the Eaglin Straits without being detected by Osean radar

>>156484451
Almost like they knew there wouldn't be enough fuel to make it back.

>>156484667
I bet those maniacs wouldn't even worry about losing their flight lead

ded bred.
I've been very busy as of late but I'm gonna see if my friend is free tomorrow and I might start MGS3.
Also will probably play some AC5 or Zero. Gotta 100% those. I hope Brady gets his shit fixed soon, miss the fucker.

>>156487215
Actually just thinking about it I think ac bro/ozy is streaming tomorrow so make that Wednesday but same idea desu

>>156487215
Supergaunt?

>>156488708
yep

>9

f

go dance with the angels mister!

this really sounds retarded.

it's REAL MEMER HOURS and if u up u better SMASH THAT MUTHAFUCKIN (YOU) BUTTON right the fuck NOW

why the fuck am I still awake

why the fuck am I still alive

Bump from Yuropland

>>156500903
Bump from Hueland

>>156336091
Guys, remember to check this for the VGL team

It isn't necessary to change the whole team everytime so it's ok if we have little adjustments. We can also abbreviate this to start the roster poll ASAP

>>156487325
>>156488708
thunder said that they'll be streaming stalker tuesday, friday, and sunday this week

Good morning /aceg/. Are you sleepy too today?

>>156507576
No.
Just a bit sick

>The skies belong to everyone. Now, lets take back out Shattered Skies in IMAX™

What did they mean by this

>9

How many streamers do we have?

It'd be nice if we could get them all together in one game.

>>156513532
Not a streamer but i guess i'd be part of this if i can

>>156513532
like 4 or 5. Off the top of my head there's me (supergauntlet), thunder, ac bro, flash, and real. Don't think there's anyone else.

>>156518336
Is thunder the only one who streams from consoles?

We'd have to do a PC thing in that case.

>>156518957
I can stream from my PS2/3 but I normally stream PC games out of simplicity.

>>156518957
Im a console exclusive streamer

Good morning, pilots. Have you all done your preflight checks?
>>156513532
Wat gaem

>>156518957
>>156518336
>Implying I have the computational power to stream anything beyond shitty webgames

>>156518336
I used to stream a lot more, but between summer's heat and various BSOD it's a while I don't do anything.

>>156519271
>>156519285
So what game do we play?

>>156519867
Ah yeah totally forgot about you facedrag. My apologies.

>>156519568
rip

>>156520256
no idea DESU. Maybe we can come up with something older that isn't very resource intensive.

Halloween is coming up

Why not Killing Floor? Up to 6 players, and co-op.

>>156521108
>>156520954
>>156520256
>>156519568
http://wings.io/

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So I'm gonna do some stream testing. I'll be on and off, but if you guys wanna join, go ahead.

>>156522532
no way fag