/dsg/ Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>>156108884
If /dsg/ tried to make a souls game, it'd be unplayable trash.

FC

Doing a blind playthrough on PS4. Anyone want to invade or co op?

>>156108969
So, about on par with the current ones?

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Best girl

>>156108790
It's probably to stop people from being invaded when they're just off by themselves farming for items.

How would you like to be farming Swordgrass, only to get jumped on by someone who then interrupts your progress and causes you to lose your souls?

Reds don't need more opportunities to invade since they can just do duels, the problem is that blues need more opportunities.

>>156109048
Sure, why not. Now if only enough of us knew how to code for games.

>>156108969
>it'd be
>implying they'd make a complete product

>>156109142
They should make it triggerable by finger.

>boss dead
>no activity except red signs
>use finger
>every summon and invasion slot opens

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>playing DS3 again in hype of DLC
>get to sulyvahn
>can't remember you can't get his robes
>or his crown
>or dual wield his weapons in a unique moveset/without le l1 block meme

Hey lads. For Dark Souls 1 how would I go about a monk build? I'm thinking caestus but I can't help but think there might be better options...probably not.

It'd have decent faith, no shield with healing and force miracles to represent ki. Pyromancies include ironflesh and power within to represent a strong will and force. What's a good set? And what are some good rings? Also, what do you think would be a good upgrade path? I might stack humanity to show that the monk is very sturdy and civil, but I'm not sure.

>>156109403
>For Dark Souls 1 how would I go about a monk build
you don't
DON'T

>>156109220
Even if it was only one area with 15 weapons and two bosses, so long as that area was nice and varied for ambushes and stuff and the bosses were suitably challenging for co-op, and the weapons weren't complete trash, it'd probably get more action than real souls does because /dsg/ could just hotfix broken/underpowered/overpowered stuff instantly.

>>156109075
I'd love for her to level my endurance all night.

>>156108998
What kind of character are you planning on using and what starting class and playstyle?

>>156109310
What if some of those summons only want to fight bosses? It should just be red signs like normal, but also invadable and you can pull in blues.

>>156109570
>one area with 15 weapons and two bosses
kek IRL

>>156109380
Do you need help remembering?

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>>156109380
b-but don't you know that having limited left-handed movesets increases variety???
there are people that believe this

>>156109142
Yeah well blues are even more broken then they were in DaS now that there aren't many players that need their hands held anymore.

At least in DaS you invaded a sinner instead of helped a host. It would have been perfect if a few things were tweaked:
- sinners could be invaded with the area boss defeated
- sinners had reason to stay human (e.g. make effects of soft humanity only apply when human), or they could be invaded even hollow

>>156108706
collageanon.imgur.com

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Do BB sliders transfer over pretty well to DaS3 so I can remake this bitch?

>>156109857
It's the same engine, so with enough time and fiddling you should be able to perfectly recreate your downs waifu.

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>miyazaki-sama, what should we make the dlc about? something excited and related to DS3?
>no, make it about the painted world
>more ds1 content miyazaki-sama?
>did I fucking stutter?
>oh...I'm so sorry miyazaki-sama...I shouldn't have questioned. What boss do we have? Priscilla? That could be neat. Maybe more crossbreeds or Velka?
>no, make it lloyd
>w-what sir?
>Lloyd, the anti-estus memer from the first game, get your shit together
>O...okay....I see, with his Shield of Caste, Sword of Law, in the setting of a Duel of Justice, with the archetypal cross-helmet armor that's become a signature for the Way of White, sir?
>no give him a bowl of soup and tie a chair to his ass and put him in some crowfeather shit

this game has the deepest stories man XDDD

>>156108965
It comes down to mindgaming your opponents. You have to judge their playstyle and see if they know how to play around your weapon. If they dont, you can probably combo them anyways and win the fight without a parry. If they dance around your range though, a good tactic is to just try to hit them, whiff, watch them run at you, and predict the most likely incoming attack. Itll just come down to you learning the strength and weakness of your weapon, their weapon, and how dumb you might think they are. If they spam a lot you can just throw out a parry and probably land it too.
So in short, ya just gotta git gud. Parry shields help though, but dont miss too many or you start to look dumb

PS4FC?

>>156109310
But then what would be the point? The way it worked before, reds invade to halt the progress of a player attempting to make it to the boss; if they die or the host goes through the boss fog, the red (or area defending blue) fails. If someone wants to invite invasions to an area they already cleared, 9 times out of 10 it's probably going to be a gank (if they wanted to duel, that's what Red Soapstone is for).

That also begs the question, how would one escape an invasion if the boss is already dead? Obviously if they want to invite invasion they intend to face an enemy player, but some people are pussies who change their minds. The best solution would be just to give them no escape until they defeat the invader(s), force them to accept their decision.

It could probably inject some more life into the game, but there's not much point in it, and again, most of those would probably just be gank squads (though seeds would matter a lot less in low-level areas).

Anyone up for a PC FC? I can host for a while, high wall or almost anywhere else but Pontiff's.

>trade with someone
>your attack passes harmlessly through their body and fails to register a hit
Why is this so common? It;s not even like you hear the attack register a second later, offset by lag or anything. The game just straight up fails a collision check while your target is locked in an animation where they cannot possibly avoid or mitigate the attack.

>>156110106
>The way it worked before, reds invade to halt the progress of a player attempting to make it to the boss
Well its a good thing that theres bonfires every 6 and a half feet in this game, to really preserve that feeling of a hunter and prey. Really makes every death feel like a true setback.

>>156109994
Think deeper.

Cathedral of the Deep was originally the Way of White, followers of Allfather Lloyd. Nowadays, though, clerics of Carim say that Lloyd was a fraud and a pretender god, while Lloyd himself is nowhere to be found.

There's a screenshot of the NPC who gives you the DLC key. He's in the Cathedral of the Deep, by the bonfire.

So, where did Lloyd run off to when his followers started worshipping Aldrich? Where could he go to get away from the blob monster that eats gods? And would he feel guilty about letting his entire church fall to corruption and sin?

>>156109857
That armour is swaggy as fuck

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R8 my lord of hollows

>tfw dual-wielding unpatched DaSII Avelyns

I miss this combo so much. Turning everything into a pincushion of bolts feels so fantastic.

>>156110538
>literal rags and bandages
>full plate helm
naw

>>156110538
Cool as fuck, I like the theme. Which chalice dungeon is that btw?

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This is the most powerful build in the game

>>156110218
sure

>>156110572
I loved it because it coincided with the greataxe powerstance bug, and rollpoising through an avelyn volley only to punish with a greathammer rolling R1->L1-L1 for 1800 damage made me erect every single time.

>>156110538
i thought that was sen's funhouse from the thumbnail
looks pretty good, i'd find a different helmet though

>>156110620
>60 int
>no spells

>>156110620
>600+AR cancercurvesword
Please don't.

>>156110594
why wont you let me be beautiful

>>156110705
That looks so fucking awesome.

>>156110715
tumblebuffed crystal card captor with crystal buff gets like 650AR

Fuck spells. This does soul spear damage per r1.

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How do i counter effectively with the shotel?

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>>156110705
>fluted set cut from DaS3
FUCK

>>156110772
Dear anon, you are beautiful. I like your rags. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>156109687
>What if some of those summons only want to fight bosses?

No one will summon you for a gank if your sign is by the boss door.
The mistakes the games make are not giving the player complete control over online without letting it affect gameplay.
Some have HP penalty, others kill online after a certain point or 2 makes you use an item(even if it's easy to come by). The change I propose makes it like:
>online is alive for the purposes of completing the game always
>should a player have interest into still using an area for online again, they have a perma on button

>>156110106
That is true, I suppose, but then, why keep an area alive after the boss dies? Everyone exploring it is only after a few items and would bone out after. I bet alot of people kill ODK so they can explore the ruins without annoiances and that's fair. With finger, those who DO have interest into things happening, be them gankers or not, would get it and the game would be more active. If you just allowed them no matter what, people would just play offline and the numbers wouldn't change

>>156110880
Hahaha h KIll kILL kILL KIll! Killl them ALL AHHAHAHAHA SLAUGHTER THEM

>>156110620
What about dark one?

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>CMW gesturebuffed crystal CCS has 700 AR
Sure fucking hope we will never be allowed to buff infused weapons.

>>156110916
>bone wheel
stop this is fucking triggering me

>>156110880
>60 int
>need to be in melee range to deal damage

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>>156111441

>>156111441
I heard that guy died, is it true?

>>156110880
No, soul spear does 800 damage if the stars align and you actually hit anyone with it. But I'll grant you that 400 damage per swing on a curved sword is pretty bullshit.

>>156111603
Nope, there's new videos a couple times a week.

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Okay, le'ts see how it goes.
PC FC, high wall, password is dsg as always.
Come have fun

>>156111207
>Bone Wheel Skeletons are one of the few really fast-paced enemies in DaS1
>You were simply too slow to keep up with their insane tracking, constant staggering, massive stamina draining, and destructive ganks
>Hitboxes were so wonky that even trying to hit them with a longer weapon would get you hit and staggered sometimes
>DaS3 is like 3x faster than DaS1
>The Bonewheel Skeletons are still nerfed to only be like 5% better than DaS2 versions
I think its time From gave us back the true menace of DaS1. The game is all grown up now, we're big boys. We can handle the skeletons now.

>>156110976
>No one will summon you for a gank if your sign is by the boss door
But some people like to help other people through a level, so they put their sign by the bonfire. Why you gotta pick on the good people, anon?

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What if, in the Ashes of Ariandel DLC, there is a ring that enables Poise when equipped?

What if?

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>>156111745
This
I want to get gang banged by 30 wheel skeletons in a damp dark basement

>>156111940
What if it was like the warrior's version to bloodring? HA is always active, but you take 15% more damage.
Would you wear it /dsg/?

>>156111738
Can someone translate this?

>>156111738
can't you wait a bit I'm eating don't host yet

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>>156111886
>hair
>on a dragon
FROM WHAT ARE YOU DONIG

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Top or Bottom. I think both are viable, just curious as to what people think which one will be more entertaining.

>>156112059
Yes. Also it could be 50% more damage and I'd still wear it.

>>156111745
>fromsoft will never make a hardcore souls game
>you will never cautiously creep through the dark caverns fighting screaming bloatheads while sorcerers pelt you from range with spells that blend in with the dark
>you can't block because you need your torch to see
>getting slowly more desperate as your torch runs out
>because as soon as it does, the dark will eat you

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>>156110620
>14 attunement

>>156111940
Then heavy armour becomes even more obsolete as the whole world burns in the unholy radiance of Yhorm Greatshield meta that suddenly emerges from the darkest depths of FROM software quality balancing.
Be careful what you wish for.

>>156112086
I see no signs yet, don't worry.

>>156112223
You don't need it. The int is only there for buff.

700AR Cardcaptor > your shitty pew pew spells.

>>156111738
I'm coming Anon-kun~

>>156110340
Okay, sure, but let's throw away the armchair lore for a second here, alternative ending: Carim supposedly hates him, why didn't they jail him for being a "fraud" and then we fight him in the Carim DLC we could've had instead of more fucking blatant DS1 fanservice? Sure, yeah, Carim, but we didn't learn shit about the place until DS3, it has multiple mentioned names that are nowhere to be found, and 50% of item descriptions with Lloyd's name in it have Carim mentioned immediately after.

Nope, instead waifuism wins and we get le velkascilla in le painted world and we throw away LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE THING WE KNOW ABOUT LLOYD

>>156112295
You know they're probably going to patch that on the 24th, right?

>25 more days until DS3 becomes fun again for a month

>>156112134
He's a drake, so it's okay.

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>>156112134
YEAH HOW FUCKING DARE THEY.

>>156112059
I don't think anyone would pass up a stagger preventing ringwithout one hell of a downside

>>156112061
I could, but I won't.

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>>156112383
>Okay, sure, but let's throw away the armchair lore for a second here
>why didn't they jail him for being a "fraud" and then we fight him in the Carim DLC

Are we, or are we not, using armchair lore?

>>156112442
I had forgotten how spooky he looked

>>156112384
They can't patch it. The only reason they could patch it before somewhat is simply by speeding up the backend of the swap alot faster. By not meeting the requirements you cause a lag.

To fix it, they'd have to force you to be unable to press the menu button after casting a spell.

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What are some fun weapons with decent to just a step below average AR that aren't: Straight Swords, Greatswords, Ultra Greatswords, Katanas, or Curved Swords.

I just want a weapon moveset I won't get bored of while I play up until Ariandel release.

>>156112556
I realized my mistake immediately after anon

but seriously why

>>156112586
Doesn't exist. Play Bloodborne.

>>156112586
Greatclub. The funnest weapon in the game.

>>156112668
PLEASE THERE MUST BE

THINK HARD

>>156112586
I've been having fun with Great Hammers.

>>156112174
>>156112446
Okay, how about this. The Calamity Ring now turns on poise for people wearing it.
Would you use it?

>>156112586
Partizan is fun spear.
Every dual weapon

>>1561125
Harpe

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>>156110917
t-thanks

>>156112383
>throw away LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE THING WE KNOW ABOUT LLOYD
That's like saying they threw away almost every single way when they introduced Gwyn to the player, since he didn't have lightning and was a hollow ass.
Or Vendrick.
Or a handful of other characters.
A shitload of time has passed, things are not the same as they used to be during the time of legends.

>>156112720
How about every weapon in Bloodborne?

How can a Dark Souls weapon moveset entertain you when the moves are copy pasted from other weapons?

>>156112762

That actually sounds awesome.

Can I get the glowing red eye effect as well?

>>156112871
Hey, funny enough, I knew you'd reply with this dumb shit.

>Gwyn
See him in his prime just fine.

>Vendrick
Talk to him in his prime just fine.

>Ludwig
Second phase is operational.

>Allant
False King fills the role.

>Lloyd
Never seen, never heard, first described in DS3 after being a memename for 3 games and then in that same game every descriptor used for him is thrown away with no indication of what he was like before

At best, we'll pick his shit up scattered/from his soul in the DLC. We'll never even have an indication of what Lloyd prime was like.

>>156109380
Aren't his robes just scholar robes?

>>156113124
>B E I N G A R E T A R D
G O B A C K
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>>156112606
In all seriousness, I don't think Miyazaki does "lore" so much as he writes a bunch of nouns onto some darts, gets really drunk, and starts throwing them at interns. Words that got stuck in the same person are grouped together, and he comes up with some semi-plausible excuse for why they're related.

Velka supposedly had some connection with the original Painted World of Ariamis, if all her stuff and servants in there were any indication. If there's a second Painted World and Velka is in it, it stands to reason that she has some way to either create painted worlds or to teach people to do so. In DaS1, Velka was counted among the gods and had connections among them, to the point that Gwyndolin's Darkmoons used her sin tracking to do their work. As Lloyd was once considered a god, it's not too unreasonable that he might've asked her for amnesty once shit went south for him.

>>156110615
Looks to be Upper Carthus

Funnest movesets in Dark Souls 3:

>Astora Greatsword
>Greatclub
>Gotthard's Twinswords
>Black Knight Greataxe
>Hollowslayer Greatsword
>Twin Princes Greatsword
>Murakumo
>Demon Fist
>Dragonslayer Swordspear
>Black Knight Glaive
>Immolation Tinder

>>156112762
That's actually an interesting idea.

However it shouldn't just be passive hyper armour. It should change allhyper armour attacks to instead just have instead hyper armour start, like Demon's Souls was. This way cardcaptor faggots don't suddenly get to poisetank yhorm's and fuck their shit up, and greatclubs are now viable.

>>156113187
wew

>>156112291
Holy shit I think I may be late this food is too heavy I'm eating like an ant.

+3 weapon
~sl 50
What's the best place to be summoned?

>>156111187
I hope you plan to record some footage of this thing.
Slap a video together with some evanescence. Wear the Bloodshade uniform and do their stupid gesture shit while you're at it.

You'll have the community at large following suit in a week.

>>156112586
>>156112720

Greataxes, they're strictly better great clubs with sorta viable movesets.

>>156113003
Sure

>>156113261
Thats also a considerably good idea. Whether or not double damage would merit it is up for debate, but who knows, maybe people really want HA.

>>156113261
instead just have instant hyper armour start*

Is what I meant

>>156112928
>every weapon
Saw spear, cleaver and Saif.
Boomhammer and Kirk.
Untransformed Claw and Steak Diner movesets.
Untransformed Kirk and Ludwigs.
And that's just off the top of my head, I'm sure if I cared enough to nitpick I'd be able to find out more.
Seriously, can you bloodbabs stick to your general? Noone's even shitting on your game, but just because your general is dead doesn't give you the right to come here and reply to every post with "YEAH BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR GEIMU?".

>>156113213
Your gentle words soothe me but I'm still fucking pissed we're not getting full-paladin Lloyd.

I hope we at least get a Way of White Paladin Leeroy/Royal Soldier set.

>>156113073
>Vendrick
>Talk to him in his prime just fine
This didn't happen until the DLC.

>>156113472
Neither did Ludwig or Lloyd?????????????

(????????????????)

What's your point?

>>156112586
Daggers are a tonne of fun.
Twindaggers with pontiff rings
Bandit's Knife with rouge
And the goddamn King Corvian just by its ol' lonesome.

Once you learn to stagger R1s effectively you enable a playstyle so aggressive that most players simply do not know how to handle it. Great fun for pve, too.

Pvp tryhard here: how do I turn into a carthus turboautist?
Trying to become one, and I still lose fights sometimes. Help me git gud /dsg/

>>156113387
>Saw spear, cleaver
Both weapons have unique tricked movesets with their own advantages and disadvantages.
>Saif
Entirely unique moveset.
>Boomhammer and Kirk.
>Untransformed Claw and Steak Diner movesets.
Do not share any moves.
>Untransformed Kirk and Ludwigs.
It's the same Church Hunter holy sword. That's intentional, they're Righteous weapons designed to hunt vilebloods.

>>156113578
That is the point.

>Artorias mentioned in game, never seen
>fourth lord mentioned in freaking intro, never seen
>Vendrick mentioned in game, seen as naked-ass hollow
>Ludwig mentioned in-game, seen never
>DLC happens, Artorias is leaking dark splooge, Manus is Manus, Ludwig is so out of his mind he has two heads, and Vendrick is the only one you see in his normal state

This is par for the course with Fromsoft. Miyazaki has a corruption fetish.

>>156113737
40/40 CCS with rouge, offhand lothric spear for when you aren't 2handing the fuckstick

Any sorcerers here? Fav spells and weapons? I've found Greatsword of Judgement hilariously fun and (when buffed via WA) on par with Moonlight Greatsword

>Play PC
>Check Roster of Knights
>Should be called Roster of Cheaters
PC masturd race amirite

>>156113895
Thanks, but I was hoping to go super tryhard using just the CCS

>>156113749
>Entirely unique moveset.
>R2's are copypasted from ludwigs/kirk untransformed R2 stabs even though the weapon itself doesn't look stabby at all
Anyways, is there any legit reason why you're shitposting here and not in the dedicated general?

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I wonder if there's a way to use CE to change the time of day in DaS3/alter stuff like that?

I remember that was fairly neat in DaS2

>>156114217
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>156113868
I think you're missing the point.

I'm not saying that characters from the base game shouldn't appear in-game

I'm saying you can't describe a character in five separate ways then in the same game present the character in none of the ways you described them

There is 0 cohesiveness in Lloyd's descriptions and his appearance in-game

Any of the characters you listed ARE a shell of their former selves, but their former selves can be imagined fairly easily as they're either clearly presented somewhere else or their "corrupted" selves are close enough that little is left to the imagination

Lloyd is described as:
1. The Leader of the Way of White
2. Using a Sword of Law
3. Using a Shield of Caste
4. Committing Duels of Judgement
5. Being a relative of Gwyns

In-game, he has no Way of White shit on (vintage or modern), no sword, no shield, and definitely isn't dueling

In-game, Lloyd:
1. Has a chair stuck to his ass
2. Has a big bowl of fucking soup
3. Is wearing a bunch of feather shit
4. Has a literal throwaway generic design waifu with a scythe defending him

That is fucking trash. It's trash boss design, it's trash storytelling, it's trash everything.

Having a literal sif meme reference boss for the ONLY other boss in the DLC is just salt in the wound.

But people will eat this shit up because it's more regurgitated (and boy, do I mean puked the fuck up) DS1 memes.

Kill me.

>>156114101
>R2's are copypasted from ludwigs/kirk untransformed R2 stabs
Not the same move. Not the same animation, different charged r2, untricked r2s are unique.

What's copy pasted is Spin Bash / Slash / Sweep / Shield Splitter / Charge and so on.
These moves are so blatantly copy pasted that they reset to a different weapon stance upon completion. Like Astora Greatsword shifting to a halberd grip after Charge.

If he wants fun, unique movesets, he should play Bloodborne. Dark Souls movesets, especially in 3, do not come close.

>>156113954
How well does a swordcerer work? I plan on making one fairly soon, using only Moonlight Greatsword, Flashsword, and Soul Greatsword.
Would you still go to 60 int?

Any good regular axe with an interesting moveset ?

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>>156114470
what's the matter, anon?

>>156114217
Wow that place is super nonthreatening at night. It almost looks like a place where actual guards would work, and like the whole world hadnt gone to shit. What a nice image

>>156114641
Yeah that's what I did. 60 int, 40 att, enough str and dex to meet requirements for Judgement and Moonlight, and 27 vig for softcap. Leaves like 13 levels to dump into vit and endurance by SL 120

>>156113737
Yoru running attacks will fuck up and move in place if you do them too close
Practice spacing them so that you get the long-distance dash instead of the run in place version.

Spacing-wise, treat the carthus sword as a greatsword and understand what you can and can't out-trade. You can swing into pretty much any weapon weaker than yours to trade, and will often recover fast enough for a 2nd R1. Trade-bullying is part of what makes the carthus so strong, since it shuts down so many things. Against anything with HA, fish for whiffpunishes or get up in their face and keep rolling their attacks waiting for a chance to rollcatch. Rollcatching is piss-easy with the cardcaptor and where you'll get a lot of damage against the average pontiffshitter.

Against katanas, run at them full tilt and hug their nuts. Never give them enough space to get a sprinting attack or they will just spam it with impunity. Watch for their fast rolling attack as you chase them and stick to their dick.

Against spears, roll into their blindspot and punish a 2nd R1 or rollcatch if they don't go for the 2nd attack.

Glaives are the only weapons that are legitimately difficult for a cardcaptor to deal with, because they out-trade you and out-range you to the point where baiting whiffpunishes like a passive shit is pointless, but also so fast, safe and low cost that hugging their nuts is a completely pointless exercise. You have to be patient and outplay glaives to beat them, but you're better off pulling a katana or a spear since those two weapons counter glaives very easily.

>>156114725
>those birds in day light
>that fucking view of the whatever
My eyes are teary.

>>156114817
>Leveling vit
Put it on vig.

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>>156109857
9.5/10 would bang

>>156114217
>>156114725
now I want a full day cicle in a souls game
not area specific time or related to progress
full on, time-passes-no-matter-where-you-are day cicle

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Hey Sven, you're a pretty cool guy. You were nice enough to switch off of Zwei when I obviously couldn't beat you. Sorry for being a katanafag, if I had anything else upgraded I would've used it.

>>156114623
https://youtu.be/bVnEjFP4WxI?t=57
https://youtu.be/a6HRxN468vU?t=6
>not the same move, not the same animation
You can even see the character twist it had a bit which alters the position of saif and makes it look even weirder, when in case of kird/ludwigs it just slightly tilts the guard.
>especially in 3
But des and das1 and das2 had about the same (if not more) amount of copypasted shit.

>>156115045
Is there an FC right now?

>>156115098
Yes, High Wall. It was pretty dead so it was pretty much just me and Sven.

>>156115098
Yes.
High wall, PC, dsg

>>156115045
Do you need weapons? I can give you a few.

>>156115028
I get the feeling that DaS3 originally had that in mind.

or at least, a system similar to Bloodborne.

because, the greatwood gameplay demo was nighttime. something which is impossible in the final game.

And we know the gameplay leaks showed day and nighttime on the wall

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All right, give it to me straight.

Is the Great Mace irredeemable garbage?

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>>156111441

>>156114089
Relax. Listen to some chill music. The point of this is to make you patient.
Apply this patience. Kite. Space. Exploit openings with 2hr1 2hr1. Blocking counts as an opening, stagger your r1s for blockstun.
Master the timing and movement for roll catching. This is where CCS becomes elder god top tier. 2hr1 2hr1 step forward delay 2hr1 repeat, this little pseudo combo can win a match alone.
With roll catching, a rouge'd CCS is blatantly better than a dark CCS. Still, consider carrying an offhand dark CCS for turtles.

>>156115256
Yes.

>>156114217
Fuck, that looks so much better

>>156115158
No, it's alright. I just need to find something else to fit a 'ninja' aesthetic.
Katana and throwing weapons were fun for PvE but it became pure cancer in fight clubs, and I'm not a metafag.

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>>156115281

I fucking knew it.

Is Vordt's any good?

>>156115437
I used it until getting Smough's. It was alright.

>>156115275
>Blocking counts as an opening
That greatly depends, I would definitely not say that about a good spear user or anyone with a greatshield

>>156114839
>>156115275
Thanks anons. At the moment i'm swinging about halfway into rolls to catch them. Is this the right timing, or ahould I stagger it a bit longer?

Also, is the blind spot for spears just behind them, or is it wider?

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>>156115437
>is *greathammer* good
Take a guess

Why
I just want to know why axe/greataxe moveset is so bland

We have enough people for FFA, do you guys feel like it?
If not, you can use the upper area too

>>156115256
Maybe, but it's the only weapon I use on one of my characters and I have great fun. If you actually catch people with it it decimates health. Just make sure you have ranged options too.

God I fucking hate dogs in DS3

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>>156115572

Why must they do this to me.

All the good looking hammer weapons are garbage. Guess I'm pumping up the SL for Morne's.

should i just run through the fucking stairway on the way to the pontiff
You've got two sorcerers and two fucking pairs of dogs, then more dogs and more sorcerers up the stairs
What the fuck

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>>156115746
>Morne's
A-anon!

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An anon made a roll image last thread (>>156085704) and I updated it for more variety on rolls and based it off of the DaS1 one that got thrown around a lot. Any ideas?

Didn't add a gift section because it seems pretty useless this time around.

>>156115779
You can just run through a majority of this game. So yeah.

>>156115820

At least it has the cool WA.

>>156115821
If it's interesting enough, I'll have a go on it.

Roleplaying as an Abyss Watcher at Road of Sacrifices is pretty fun

>>156115694
We had an FFA earlier, so I'd like to continue with the duels for a while.

I wanna see more dickass thief builds/pvp.

>>156109403
DaS2 and BB are the only Souls games where you can go full monk.

>>156115779
The answer is no.
All 6 of the dogs will chase you to the pontiff's door. They also run faster than you.

>>156115947
>BB full monk
What? Beast mode/claws isn't monk.

>>156115779
Yes.
Run, halfway, open menu, quit game, reload, keep repeating it.
Or check speedrunners

>>156115925
Yeah I've been meaning to make a character so I can get in on that. Aldrich Faithful is loads of fun, I'd like to see what Watchdogs is like. Don't know if I'm go full Abyss Watcher or just an Undead Legion member - I'll probably concoct some fashion out of mixed Exile and Watcher armour. I'll have to decide between the pointy hat and the hockey mask, because they're both good.

>>156116041
Kos Parasite without the milkweed rune. Fist will do full arcane damage and scale with arcane.

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>>156115920
>hammers
>deprived
>no cov
After cheesing DS2 with maces, I'm not sure if I want to do a caveman run or pretend that maces are anything but suffering.

>>156114545
>I'm saying you can't describe a character in five separate ways then in the same game present the character in none of the ways you described them
Artorias's lore in the base game was literally a falsification. His former self can only be accurately imagined using information from the DLC.

Lloyd's appearance in the DLC is, as far as I can tell, entirely in keeping with the circumstances surrounding his downfall. He's a shell of a man, hiding from the rest of the world and punishing himself for sins he can't forgive, with only the Goddess of Sin to keep him company. A Goddess who, if history holds any meaning, has a tendency to turn people into crow-like abominations. It's consistent with the lore.

>>156116096
Really? Never new that, pretty neat.

>>156115821
roll

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>>156116096
>you know realize micolash had a parasite all along, but couldn't figure out how to use it

>>156115437
It's slighty less bad.
IIRC at 40str 2H, Vordt's gets 550AR while the greatmace gets like 520.
Dragon's Tooth, Smough's and Greatclub are all high 500s, and Greatclub is like 630 with warcry active

>>156115092
It's similar, but not the same. The forward momentum is different, as is the stance.

You realize how ridiculous this nitpicking is? Merely watching these videos should instill my point. Look at those movesets. Look at them.
A single weapon in Bloodborne gives you a huge moveset full of unique moves. The weapons in Bloodborne are fun, varied, versatile, and unique.
I'm just saying - if he's crying for unique and fun weapons, he should play Bloodborne.

Dark Souls 3 just doesn't compare to this. The weapons do not have the variety, amount of possible moves, unique r1s and r2s are rare.
The weapons are barely any different from each other.
Look at the curved greatswords and greataxes.

Alright. So.
Do NOT use a Corvian Great Scythe to fight the Deacons.

>>156116541
what went wrong, anon

>>156115821
Roll

>>156116541
Hahahaha
I did that same thing in NG+
Hollow corvian scythe with some 55 odd bleed and carthus rouge. Killed myself in two R2s.

all right /dsg/ I've only ever done one low level invasion build and wanted to do another one. What are some good weapons for 30-40 pvp that isn't raw ASS. The other character i've done it on uses Large Club and wanted to try something different. Any suggestions?

>>156116467
I honestly expected a good deal of the weapons in Dark Souls 3 to be on par with those in Bloodborne, and boy was I disappointed.

>>156116676
Great club, of course

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>BB had backstep R2s
>DaS3 doesn't
>BB had running R2s
>DaS3's running R2 is just a jump attack

>>156116656
Fuck whips, reroll

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>>156116629
>it has a self bleed effect
>each hit from each deacon counts up the bar
>I was using the huge ass 1 handed R2s to kill them
I bled myself out without noticing it

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Sorry to ask such a newfag question, but I'm playing Dark Souls 3 for the first time later today (installing right now), and I heard that Hollowing is different now?

Apparently Hollowing can be used to get free levels off of one of the merchants?
And being Hollowed boosts your stats with certain weapons?
Will my character still turn ugly every time I die like in the other games?

>>156115821
roland

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>>156116751
>>156116656

>>156115821
Carthus bloodRoll spamming

>>156116541
>"Great scythes inflict profuse bleeding, such that the blood patters on the wielder."
>Causes bleed buildup on the wielder per enemy hit.
So...bleeding is just an effect of having blood ON you? Has nothing to do with, like, actual wounds?

Red pill me on the carthus curved greatsword

>>156116727

>Whirligig's special running 2H R2

That thing had all the moves.

>>156116792
Go into your first playthrough blind as possible. Then go back and look at everything you missed.

>>156115821
roll like the wind

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>>156116816
I'm seriously about to dissect myself.

>>156116840
No that's just a shitty description.

>>156116887

That's generally what I try to do but is this at least still the same?

>Will my character still turn ugly every time I die like in the other games?

>>156116851
It used to be really good because it had a guaranteed 4 hit combo(2HR1 into WA) but they nerfed Curved Greatsword combos so now it's just okay. I used to use it with Carthus Rouge, absolutely crazy.

>>156115779
Just go from the church past the firewitch and kill the two hollows and knights

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>>156116851
It's mai weaponfu

>>156116792
Yes.
Yes.
Only after a few levels of Hollowing. Can't remember, but after a few deaths you'll start to look like jerky.
There's a ring that still makes you look human though.

>>156116840
it's only that for scythes for some dumb reason

>>156117010
At a certain point, yes. But you can solve it fairly easily for a small amount of souls

>>156116126
>Artorias's lore in the base game was literally a falsification

>Le wolf knight fought and died containing the abyss
>falsification
k

>His former self can only be accurately imagined using information from the DLC.
which is just fine

>Lloyd's appearance in the DLC is, as far as I can tell, entirely in keeping with the circumstances surrounding his downfall
but has nothing to do with Lloyd in how he's described

The comparison you're trying to make is wrong because the way Artorias in the base game is described is correct

If an Artorias example were to be made for comparison with Lloyd like I said here >>156116126

The example would be "Artorias was the wolf knight and fell to the abyss", and you'd find out in a DLC titled "The Item of CharacternevermentionedintheBaseGame" that he actually is a naked hollow with a parasite head using a door for his weapon with a hollow dog guarding him for phase 1 of his fight and turning into an Asylum Demon for phase 3 of his fight

If that's Lloyd in the DLC, he has absolutely and literally 0% relation the Lloyd described in the base game, that is the issue

You can make up fan-canon for how that happened

I can make up fan-canon for how Artorias could've actually been a parasite hollow and lord of undead dogs

In both cases, it'd be trash

How much att should I have if I want to use sunlight spear, lightning stake, and great heal all without having an iv send ashen estus through my body at all times?

>>156115821
roll

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>>156115821
Rollerino.

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>Refined Zweihander has higher dexterity scaling than strength scaling

>>156115821
Rolling

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>>156115821
rollin

What's with all the "bloodshade" character names? Am I missing something?

>>156117204
30 or 40 is good for miracle users

>>156116851
Probably worst-in-class curved greatsword.
Technically it's 3rd place for AR, but the OWCS has a WA combo that gives it above-normal damage, leaving carthus in last place.

I guess it's lightweight?

>>156117287
Don't tell anyone you leveled that. You fucking faggot.

>>156117336
yes

>>156115821
roll

>>156117336
Edgy "covenant" created by Peeve.

>>156117336
Late for the party

>>156115821
Rolling

>>156117336
System?

>>156117149
>Le wolf knight fought and died containing the abyss
That is a falsification. Artorias never managed to contain the abyss. You had to come along and clean up the mess he left. That information comes from his armor, weapon, and soul.

>His former self can only be accurately imagined using information from the DLC
>which is just fine
Which contradicts your previous complaint about Lloyd's current appearance seemingly having nothing to do with his past appearance when you don't even know the context for why he's in his current appearance. I mean, gosh, it's not like we know anyone who might have the ability to drive a man to self-flagellate and turn into a giant crow.

>The example would be "Artorias was the wolf knight and fell to the abyss", and you'd find out in a DLC titled "The Item of CharacternevermentionedintheBaseGame" that he actually is a naked hollow with a parasite head using a door for his weapon with a hollow dog guarding him for phase 1 of his fight and turning into an Asylum Demon for phase 3 of his fight

And now you're just being anal pained and hyperbolic. The beginning and end of all of this is that we don't know why he's in the state he's in (assuming that is in fact Lloyd). I mean, I can guess, and there are a number of perfectly good reasons why he'd be strapped to a chair, whipping himself, and sprouting feathers instead of using anything from his past, but that's still only a guess.

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>>156115821
Gimme somthin good famalam

>>156115821
roll

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>Tfw no friends to help me transfer backed up save items on ps4

>>156115207
That would have been neat

>certain enemies only appear at night
>some enemies get stronger or weaker during the night/day
>detection distance on sneaking characters is reduced at night, allowing for stealthy play

>>156117682

>Dragonslayer Armour's weapon

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>>156116138
Here was my arcane kos parasite punch girl with MLGS laser beams for backup

Honestly fucking fun. Bloodborne's fist moveset might just be one of the most beautiful thing they've ever done.

>>156117857
your character looks like she's fucked up on something

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Thank you all for coming, FC is over now.

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hey homies, i've never used CE, can i get banned if i spawn 30 concords? i want my darkmoon blade but its fucking impossible to farm them usually and im not gonna spend 10 hours killing silver knights

>>156118067
Thanks for hosting famalam

>>156115207
That's what everybody thought the covenant indicator meant in DaS2 until it came out that it was, well, the covenant indicator. It just seemed like all the preview footage used the sunbro covenant so it looked like some kind of sundial.

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>>156116678
>Hunter Axe

>Those strong as fuck diagonal aze chops one handed
>Those meaty slams with r2
>The transform attack thrusts out
>The halberd 360 degree sweep shit
>The rolling pokes
>The L2 360 degree sweep
>overheads

It's the most gorgeous fucking weapon moveset. Anyone who played BB with the Hunter Axe as their main had the funnest experience. It's the best starting weapon, the only one that actually 2 hands and transforms and gives you an L2 move.

>>156118067
Thanks for hosting

>>156118067
Thanks man

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>>156118083
>homies

You only get banned for being stupid.
And it literally takes more than 10 hours to farm concords. Even with ng++ rings.

I can continue hosting if anyone still wants to fight?

>>156118083
Yes because you can't ever pick up more than 2 concords since they're untradeable and only drop one or two at a time

>>156117673
>That is a falsification. Artorias never managed to contain the abyss. You had to come along and clean up the mess he left. That information comes from his armor, weapon, and soul.

But he still used a greatsword, still was a wolf knight, still interacted with the abyss

Lloyd doesn't have or do any of the things his literal same-game lore says he does

>Which contradicts your previous complaint about Lloyd's current appearance seemingly having nothing to do with his past appearance when you don't even know the context for why he's in his current appearance. I mean, gosh, it's not like we know anyone who might have the ability to drive a man to self-flagellate and turn into a giant crow.

But there's no reason for Lloyd to be the token Velka boss when he had a story himself. You think it's being hyperbolic, but I literally just drew lines between things that drag Lloyd's boss fight's quality down and what a similar fight would look like pasted onto Artorias, because that's what it was; they pasted a generic velka sinner boss onto Lloyd and called it a day. There was absolutely no reason for him to be that fight. It could've literally been anyone in the entirety of the game -- that's why people were fighting over if it was Velka, or Gwynevere, or Lloyd -- even the GENDER was up in the air because the boss is THAT fucking generic.

And no, it doesn't contradict. A good majority of Artorias's lore in the base game was completely sound. One line being misleading doesn't mean the entire character was a sham. It's not one line that's wrong about Lloyd; it's literally every physical descriptor for him save for "he's a way of the white guy" and "he's probably in gwyn's family", and at this rate, even though will be rendered non-canon when we get our hands on the DLC because they've ignored every other detail about him.

>The beginning and end of all of this is that we don't know why he's in the state he's in (assuming that is in fact Lloyd)
Let's hope he's not.

>>156117857
>Bloodborne has comfy haram pants
>That way better long hair style

Oh for fucks sakes

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>>156118067
thanks for hosting, have a nice night

>>156118083
Yes you will get banned

You can't really use CE for anything fun now without being banned but of course inf HP/MP/Stam is still completely undetectable

>>156118142
its hard to tell with DaS2, considering there's some MAJOR mechanics and ideas that got cut, Time travel specifically.

>>156118083
Most things the table can do aren't gonna get you banned, just don't directly edit your soul counter or edit your stats using it

>>156118262
I'd like to fight.

Ok same place same pass

>>156118404
You can pretty easily make impossible items with the table that'll flag a ban pretty much instantly.

>>156118067
Who is he carrying and how are they related

Here's hoping they have Well What is it and Shrug in the DLC

>>156113976
>Play Piss4/Xbone
>Same cheated in numbers

>>156118526
Can I still give myself items or is that no good anymore?

>>156118719
Yorshka? Might just be cuteposting

>>156118083
No, that's fine

So long as you don't touch your stats or your soul count directly you're fine

Go offline, turn a fading soul into 99 champions souls, rinse/repeat if you need more

>>156118824
If you have to ask, you're probably not ready to use CE.
There's a significant amount of literature answering that and any other CE-related question you could think to ask. Do the google yourself.

FC still on folks, high wall pass dsg! Zilrael is getting ronry

>>156118719
He's carrying Yorshka and maybe it's just an unkindled one wearing Havel's shit

>>156118816
>having expectations for the DLC
>having expectations for gestures in the DLC

Can someone point me in the right direction for making ds3 not run like shit on my pc? I've tried fucking with settings an my pc is definitely good enough to run it.

>>156118283
Three false lines, not one.

Artorias never fought the Darkwraiths; New Londo didn't even exist when he was alive. We know this because the Chasm of the Abyss overlaps with the area New Londo is in in the base game. Manus's boss room is the same location you fight the Four Kings in, for crying out loud.

Artorias never "walked" the abyss, clearly, and he had no ability to safely traverse it. He was defeated by it, and his ring doesn't even serve any purpose in the time period Artorias attempted to fight the abyss. The Covenant of Artorias ring refers to a fictional story that never happened.

And, of course, Artorias never stopped the abyss, but we've already covered that.

I could come up with a surprisingly plausible reason for why the game lied to this extent, but it'd only be headcanon.

And, you never know. Maybe he doesn't use his Sword of Law and Shield of Caste, but you can still make them from his soul because they're still a part of his being. Then you can be a Lloyd cosplay.

>>156119043
I transmuted my shit all the time in 2 and 1, I'm just wondering if that's still safe to do in 3.

So why doesn't /bbg/ and /dsg/ just fuse to a SoulsBourne general? There's already BB stuff in the OP...

>>156119358
They don't want to.

>>156109142
but swordgrass farming is those three guys right near the bonfire. wouldn't be a big loss of time honestly

and when i'm farming, i'd love an invasion. break up the disgusting monotony once every ten minutes or so. maybe longer, if you don't have a phantom and aren't in a territory invasions are extremely sparse, even twink baiting in high wall.

>>156119097
I'm not hoping too hard so I won't be disappointed if it isn't there

>>156119234
ok but then why do you need the covenant of artorias to enter the abyss to fight the kings?

>>156119358
Because /bbg/ is like old DeS generals and I'd like to keep it like that. /dsg/ is a shit hole.

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>>156119060
thank you for hosting

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>>156119502
I tried for you friend

>>156119358
we had to split because autismanon was being autistic about BB vs DaS2.

at this point, IDK. Bloodborne is a dead game so maybe it wouldnt hurt to fuse, but at the same time, its much simpler when the thread is JUST about the souls series, with a hint of King's Field for relevancy.

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>>156109857
Sliders please?

>>156119465
Because the legend of Artorias is that he beat the Abyss. The reality is that the CU beat Artorias and then the Abyss, but Artorias got all the credit.

>>156118320
>brigand pants are super compressed by every single chest piece
>including brigands
kill me

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>>156119553
You are the hero Lothric needs.

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>full faraam set
>neck shows when you swing your weapon

>>156119703
I had an itchy bum as you can see

>>156119570
If it were me, we'd have a general for each game.

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>>156119724
A-at least the armor looks shiny.

>>156119873
Looks like you're jacking off I didn't notice.

>>156119465
That's a good question, anon. Artorias clearly never used the ring, and yet the ring exists. The ring references a history that never happened, and has magic that supports its own claims.

The conspiracy theorist in me wants to call it fabricated evidence, to give credence to a cover-up. Gwyn, terribly afraid of the newly exposed darkness hidden in mankind, buried the history of Oolacile and Artorias's involvement with it. Artorias, being such a major figure, couldn't just disappear, so after enough time had passed his story was intentionally misattributed to the more recent New Londo, and the ring created to "prove" it. Sif and what's-her-cat remain there to guard his grave out of loyalty, but cat clearly doesn't have any care to hide the truth from you since she comes right out and tells you. In fact, she's the only thing in the base game that tells you Arty's story is a lie, and in a way that's consistent with the DLC as well, but everyone overlooked it at the time.

But that's just something I made up, so who knows.

>>156119941
EUGH
HUEGHG
WHY CANT MIYAZAKI INTO FASHION WHAT THE FUCK

Why are there so few builds in dark souls 3?

>>156110620
I noticed that when Oro does his sellsword buff build he doesn't meet the base requirements for the blades anymore, instead relying on the buff. I was wondering, since the CCS is crystal infused and then buffed for major league AR, does the 15/18 dex req even need to be met? Or will that still negatively influence the magic damage of a crystal infused weapon?

>>156120048
Blame From for sticking to a character rig that is quickly approaching ten years old

And blame the artist for not modelling a neck piece for the helmet.

>>156120042
Maybe something happened to it when he broke his arm. Maybe rings don't work when on a broken arm. Maybe he gave it to Sif along with his shield.
Who knows? he didn't tell us.

>>156120158
Because there are very few weapons which support build variations.
Everything is either quality, pure strength, pure dex, dex/int or str/fth. Most of the options that aren't quality suck, and the quality options make up 90%.

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>killed all npc
>finished gathering gear/ashes
>this ending
AWWW YIS. MAXIMUM BULLYING!! URGH. YES! FUCK.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS THE POINT BUT IT SURE MAKES ME HARDER THAN TITANITE

>>156120178
Considering the whole gimmick relies on the ridiculous base magic scaling combined with a matching buff, I'd assume it matters kind of a little fucking lot.

>>156120231
Makes about as much sense as anything. Maybe Miyazaki should stop throwing darts while drunk.

So what's DS1 on the 360 like? I hear there's still frame drops, which annoys me because the reason I got it is because I can't run it on my craptop without frame drops.

>>156117149
>feeling this entitled
Fuck off dude. It's fine as it is. You're just way past max on the autism spectrum

>>156119234
>Artorias never fought the Darkwraiths; New Londo didn't even exist when he was alive. We know this because the Chasm of the Abyss overlaps with the area New Londo is in in the base game. Manus's boss room is the same location you fight the Four Kings in, for crying out loud.

An argument against item descriptions based on map geography is weak at best

>Artorias never "walked" the abyss, clearly, and he had no ability to safely traverse it. He was defeated by it, and his ring doesn't even serve any purpose in the time period Artorias attempted to fight the abyss. The Covenant of Artorias ring refers to a fictional story that never happened.

DS3 makes it pretty clear that Wolfsblood is an incredible deterrent against the abyss, if only for a limited time. Artorias definitely had plenty of that.

>And, you never know. Maybe he doesn't use his Sword of Law and Shield of Caste, but you can still make them from his soul because they're still a part of his being. Then you can be a Lloyd cosplay.

Literally said it earlier.

>At best, we'll pick his shit up scattered/from his soul in the DLC. We'll never even have an indication of what Lloyd prime was like.

>>156120303
>finished gathering gear/ashes

You forgot the Hollow Ashes and the Morion Blade.

>>156120182
I KEEP SAYING IT
COIFS UNDER EVERY HEADPIECE
But that wouldnt stop DaS3 from looking like shit. Even with Creighton's helm, theres actually a gap between the chainlink because it comes in 2 fucking pieces for some reason. One that shows right directly under the helm piece, and then a separate piece JUST fuck the neck area. Its such an ass backwards system. I guess that was one perk of DaS2's stiff animations: nothing would ever bend or contort in ridiculous ways and reveal these gaps. Maybe if every attack in DaS3 didnt break your wrists and dislocate your shoulders, this wouldnt be an issue.

Anyone on DS3 PC got a spare unupgraded cestus they can part with? I'm doing a punch build and I want to roll with them right from the get go

Gonna put sign down in front of first Lothric bonfire, password is 'fisting'

>>156120303
You use the firekeeper to wrest the first flame from its kiln and then betray her and take it for yourself. It's like the lord of hollows ending except without being a cuck to londor.

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>>156120464
I accidentally told Anri where Horace was by speeding through it so I fucked up her quest. But since I don't necessarily need her stuff knowing that I cucked her of finishing her duty is almost as good. I can't care less nevertheless.

>>156120686
I mean you only need to do one boss before Caestus anyway

>>156120886
That's true, I forgot it's kind of early on in the game

>>156120476
nah dude mocap physically made every roll frame-wise slower and the game was so slow and also it was just slow

remember

remember that?

>>156120686
signs down if you want it

>>156120402
>An argument against item descriptions based on map geography is weak at best

Bullshit. Do you know how much time it takes to make a map? They intentionally, over a period of months, created a map that resembled Darkroot and New Londo, and also overlapped perfectly with them. There is no better argument for an item description being wrong than the developers creating geography that outright refutes it. Especially when said geography literally loads over the same location.

Geography has always been used as lore in this series. Before the DLC came out, you could reasonably conclude that Darkroot was the original site of Oolacile based purely on the crumbly architecture and item placements. In DaS3, you can conclude that you're still in Lordran because the Demon Ruins are accessible from the Catacombs, same as they were in DaS1.

>DS3 makes it pretty clear that Wolfsblood is an incredible deterrent against the abyss, if only for a limited time. Artorias definitely had plenty of that.

You are referring to the Undead Legion, who have abyssal goop tendrils crawling up their capes and over their helmets. Read the Dark Pellets item description: they always had a stockpile of those things on hand because of the dark resistance they gave. This would suggest that the Undead Legion didn't have any innate resistance to the dark, and so needed a constant supply from an outside source.

Also, are we still talking about the same Artorias who, as stated word-for-word by an NPC in the area, didn't stand a ghost of a chance because he had "nary a murmur of dark"?

>Literally said it earlier

My apologies.

>>156120769
You're supposed to tell Anri where Horace is. What you aren't supposed to do is leave Horace alive before doing so.

For future reference.

>>156121269
Good fight lol

Thanks again man

>>156121357
>Bullshit.
DS2, DS3

>You are referring to the Undead Legion, who have abyssal goop tendrils crawling up their capes and over their helmets. Read the Dark Pellets item description: they always had a stockpile of those things on hand because of the dark resistance they gave. This would suggest that the Undead Legion didn't have any innate resistance to the dark, and so needed a constant supply from an outside source.
The **Undead** Legion of Farron had more than a murmur of Dark and, just like Artorias, fell to the Abyss eventually, hence

>if only for a limited time

Not to mention they both clearly had some kind of abyss walking trait since even the CU has to have the covenant else he's instantaneously eaten by the Abyss.

I also appreciate how, just like every other discussion about Dark Souls 3, people still wrap shit back around to DS1 and Artorias. Fucking kill me.

>>156121464
>You're supposed to tell Anri where Horace is
Wrong. Alive or not, you will find her hostile and have no choice but to kill her hollowed self. This also makes Yuria leave permanently.

>rescue griggs from the undead burg
>he beats you to firelink shrine even if you make a b-line to it
whoa

>>156122217
It's almost like he's magical or something.

FC going on?

>>156122338
You missed it by about an hour.

>>156122215
If Horace is dead they set up a grave there and the quest line continues

>>156121820
>DS2

It was said in interviews before DaS2 released that it wouldn't take place in the same area as DaS1. The words used were "if Dark Souls is the north pole, then Dark Souls 2 would be the south pole".

http://www.polygon.com/2012/12/19/3783452/dark-souls-2-staff-discuss-the-vga-trailer-and-what-having-real

Dark Souls 3, however, was confirmed to be in the same location.

>The **Undead** Legion of Farron had more than a murmur of Dark and, just like Artorias, fell to the Abyss eventually

For the same reason that your character was able to more-or-less safely enter the abyss, though they were still at risk of being eaten by giant humanity blobs. Chosen undead smells "very human indeed", humanity is the dark soul, chosen undead has plenty more than a murmur of dark, potentially due to being undead. So, I'll grant you that the Undead Legion had more dark resistance than the non-undead and potentially absent of all humanity Artorias (and their Dark Stoneplate Rings probably help), but it was not due to the wolf's blood shared by them and Arty.

>Not to mention they both clearly had some kind of abyss walking trait since even the CU has to have the covenant else he's instantaneously eaten by the Abyss

And yet, the Covenant of Artorias ring serves no purpose at all in the Chasm of the Abyss. It's effect only applies in the fight against the Four Kings, where the abyss has grown so large it doesn't even have a floor anymore.

>I also appreciate how, just like every other discussion about Dark Souls 3, people still wrap shit back around to DS1 and Artorias. Fucking kill me

Dunno what to say, anon. New Londo, Anor Londo, Darkroot, and the DLC were the most well-made areas of DaS1, with the most interesting and complete lore. Everything else was barely even there, when it wasn't halfway disassembled on the cutting room floor. We could try talking about Seath I guess, but what all is there to say? Nito's story was never given in the first place. Izalith?

>>156122215
This >>156122407

I do it every single time, and all Anri says is that it couldn't find him. And when you go back to Smouldering Lake later, there's a little grave with a single prism stone on it, and it's kinda sad.

>>156122603
>Not to mention they both clearly had some kind of abyss walking trait since even the CU has to have the covenant else he's instantaneously eaten by the Abyss
>And yet, the Covenant of Artorias ring serves no purpose at all in the Chasm of the Abyss. It's effect only applies in the fight against the Four Kings, where the abyss has grown so large it doesn't even have a floor anymore

Forgot to add, but it's never actually stated that the Undead Legion ever actually enters the abyss. The most we know about them is that they wander around purging cities at the first sign of dark shenanigans.

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>This ring symbolizes Knight Artorias's
>covenant with the beasts of the Abyss.
>It's wearer, like Artorias himself, can
>traverse the Abyss.

>You need the Covenant of Artorias to not be eaten by the Abyss in New Londo
>You do not need the Covenant of Artorias in Oolacile Township, an area being eaten by the Abyss
>Artorias did not live long enough to see the New Londo Abyss

Why then does the Covenant of Artorias exist? Why did he "make a covenant" to traverse a then non-lethal Abyss?
How do you make a covenant with mindless abyss beasts?
If he was safe from the Abyss what happened to him?

?????????????

>>156122603
>It was said in interviews before DaS2 released that it wouldn't take place in the same area as DaS1. The words used were "if Dark Souls is the north pole, then Dark Souls 2 would be the south pole".
It's safe to say it took place on another continent between DS1 and DS3's timeline? That doesn't explain why the Throne of Want has any relation to the first flame or linking it.

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Anyone want to help me run the Farron Swamp?
I'm at the Halfway Fortress on PS4.
Password is dsg

>>156122942
DS2 is non-canon

>>156123078

I'll be there.

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>>156123176
Explain the DS2 gear and characters in DS3 then.

>>156123254
Old Dragonslayer style references, solely non-canon fanservice

>>156123176
stop this meme

>>156122897
>Why then does the Covenant of Artorias exist?
Dunno, see my best and mostly made-up guess here >>156120042

>Why did he "make a covenant" to traverse a then non-lethal Abyss
Only logical answer was that he didn't

>How do you make a covenant with mindless abyss beasts?
Dunno? Maybe he didn't?

>If he was safe from the Abyss what happened to him?
Clearly, he wasn't safe from the Abyss.

>>156122942
>There is no direct connection in the story between Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2, according to Dark Souls director Hidetaka Miyazaki

This is me shrugging, I guess.

>>156123254
Any events of DaS2 referenced in DaS3 are canon.

If you think this is bad, I dare you to try making sense of Star Wars extended canon.