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>Couldn't Estus despite not being affected by a Lloyd's Talisman:
>>155662701

>Vicar/Redditslayer Event
http://pastebin.com/RMGciAGD

>DLC Trailers/Gameplay/Details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic4EHyRm_Tw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nRve2XRUiA
http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/21/12999624/dark-souls-3-ashes-of-ariandel-dlc-preview-hands-on-everything-we-know

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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First for being first
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>>155690789
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xth for best girl
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xth for the darkmoon bow is kinda shit.
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>>155690657

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/85310

To the anon that wanted a STR/FAI build, here's a template to work with. Adjust levels accordingly to what you want along with armor and ring layout.
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I want to create a pure strength build centered on the Cathedral Knight Greatsword because it's the best looking ultra weapon in the game. What faster STR weapon do you think can complement it? I would have gone for a mace but they suck. This is for PvP by the way, SL 120-125. I usually pack a straight sword but this time I'm unsure.
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AY YO HOL UP

I thought watchdoggos had friendly fire? I'm not doing damage to my allies.
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>>155691137
Ty homie
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>>155691226
It never did, you big dummy.
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>>155691210
Champ halberd
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>>155691226
Watchdogs and Aldrichs don't do friendly fire to each other.
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>>155690908
I made uh, a thing.
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>>155691313
>>155691340
Huh
What's the point of pevvebros invading as reds then? Faster matchmaking?
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>>155691346
>didn't clean the edges
>missed a patch of background
Is this what it means to be triggered?
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>He unironically levels Dex
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>>155691425
Fixing atm senpai. I made it in a quick moment's notice.
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>>155691210
Son, you'd best be also building reasonably towards quality, because CKGS is actually a pretty terrible weapon. I know from personal experience of having mained it through my first PVE run.

If you don't care about being a faggot, Dark Sword has reasonably good Str scaling, and can be obtained before facing Abyss Watchers.
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>>155691137
If I want to go fashion souls, which of the stats should I gut for some vit?
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>Drang Twinspear's WA isnt a stance that combines them into Twinblades at the handle
Shitd be so cash
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>>155691210
Manserp hatchet
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>>155691630
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/85310
probably the faith. If you just want to meet casting requirements, you can cast anything with 45 faith.
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>>155690789
>when you finally get summoned as a blue and the host instantly dies
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>>155691503
>because CKGS is actually a pretty terrible weapon

Is that so? Terrible news. I assume it does low damage?
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>>155691630
go sl125 and change starting class to knight. this will get you 16 vit.
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Using a red eye orb, if you die you lose souls right? Asking for DaS and DS3. By the time I got into Souls the online was dead so I don't know much about it. In DS3 everyone just summons though.
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>>155690908
fuck i was going to post this
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>>155691919
in DaS you drop a bloodstain where you casted Red Eye Orb

In DaS3 you drop a bloodstain where you died in the host's world
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>>155691425
test
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>>155692014
...
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>>155691820

It has 568 AR when 2handed at 66 STR with Heavy which is far below any of the top-tier STR weapons. In comparison it gets 556 AR when 2handing at just Refined 27 STR/40 DEX and and 587 at 40/40 Refined.
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>>155692014
If someone is using Tomorrow they'll be able to see the edges still. You'd have to either have to manually delete every light pixel or just say fuck it, feather the edges, and deal with it looking transparent around.
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>>155692093
>>155692158
I give up. Will continue some other day.
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So is Ornstein a boy or a girl?
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>>155692093
>tfw transparent previews still don't work with tomorrow
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>>155692227
A guy i think
Is yuria a boy or girl?
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Yuria of Londor or Karla?
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So Aldrich is the whole pool/puddle on the ground of his room, right?
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>>155692408
No, he's just the slug guy.
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>>155691472
>mom pls take picture of me for memebook
>ok son, but please don't forget your starbucks interview at 2pm!
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>>155690789
>hey guys lets make a set for the firekeeper
>alright all done
BUT SIR THERE'S NO HELMET
>how will the character see with the mask on?
SO BRILLAIN MIYAZAKI SAN
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>>155692407
Karla, dark girls are top tier desu.
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which game (including DeS and BB) has the best NPC voice acting?
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>>155691820
Its scaling means it gets left behind by most other ultra greatswords, especially those that benefit from quality builds, and its base damage is low compared to most of its peers; anything that it does outmatch weighs roughly half of it. Even if you don't go full quality and infuse it Heavy, it'll eventually get to a point where you'll get more damage out of it as stock or through Refined infusion.

Its main gimmick is that it deals strike damage with an ultra's moveset. How much mileage you get out of that depends on the fashion that your enemy is wearing.
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>>155692407
>wanting a gold digger over loyal waifu
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For Vicar, should I 140 or 170?
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>>155692653
>choosing Orbeck over Yuria
absolutely disgusting.jpg
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>>155692637
Micolash, prove me wrong
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>>155692750
>AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHohhh
>NOW I'M WAKING UP! I'LL FORGET... E V E R Y T H I N G...
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>>155692642
>Its main gimmick is that it deals strike damage with an ultra's moveset.

This meme doesn't really matter anyway since strike defense is usually equivalent to other damage types for most players, the only type that matters is Thrust due to Leo Ring counters and the Cathedral Knight can't even benefit from that as you said. FUGS purely outdamages it on a pure STR build and other UGS are better in practice due to their thrusting attacks.
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>>155692118
>>155692642

I see. Thanks Anons. I don't have experience on pure strength builds, and for some reason I thought this weapon would do well with one. It's a shame, I like its looks a lot and the strike damage. I guess I will upgrade one on my quality build and use it there.

I guess I'd have to go for something like Yhorm's for a pure STR build.
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>>155692849
And no NPC managed to top that.
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>>155692653
>>155692748
You don't have to. Buy all of Orbeck's sorceries and he wilol die on his own. You can get his ashes in the archives.
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Reminder everyone you know will die eventually.
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>>155692502
Hmm, I thought he'd be bigger of he eats all these gods. Also, that would explain how he's able to sink into the slop and reappear at different corners of the room.
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>>155692637
Laurentius of the great feel
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>>155692994
No, that's a spell
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why do I get told ds2 has better netcode? I never deal with stuff like this in 3. People will have their animations not play, but they'll at least show up in the right spot.
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>>155692928
Byrgenwerth...
Byrgenwerth...

Blasphemous murderers! Blood-crazed... fiends! Atonement for the wretches, by the wrath of Mother Kos!

[choking fish noises]

Mercy, for the poor, wizened child... Mercy, oh, please!

Atonement for the wretches... Lay the Curse of Blood upon them, and their children, and their children's children, for ever more. Each, wretched, birth, will plunge each, w r e t c h e d child, into a LIFETIME of... misery...

[choking fish noises]

Mercy, for the poor, wizened child! Let the pungence of Kos... cling... like a mother's devotion...

[choking fish noises
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>>155693179
Because of silky smooth 60FPS
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>>155692748
Orbeck is your sorcery colleague and sworn friend as you help gather scrolls to study together along your journey. Karla will aid you even disregarding her discomfort for dark sorceries and stand by your decisions even if it means everyone is against them.

Meanwhile, Yuria will continue to question your fealty until you murder your friends to prove it. She's also suggesting you go along with necrophiliac marriage and guiding you to a path that puts herself and her people in power. She's a two-faced cunt who must be purged.
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>tfw yukas was on PS4 bullying bloodshades

>he summoned my vicar

>I didn't drop spaghetti, and we killed every single fucker that came our way until he had to stop streaming

topkek, no one expects 800AR smoughs hammer
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>>155693252
I don't really think any of the issues games like 1 had were due to low framerate though (aside fomr the fact that simply not being at 60 fps is an issue in it's own right, at least nowadays)
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>>155693212
I'm inclined to bury my trauma of that place after getting eaten by the trollsharks countless times
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>>155693292
Orbeck is not my friend, he is an ungrateful cunt who won't stop talking down to me.

Yuria's path places her and her people in total submission to my rule.
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>>155693296
gib script
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>>155693404
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>>155692637
Patches' voice actor did a god tier job. Prove me wrong
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>>155693398
splish...
splash...
splish...
splash...

Have you heard how curiously the Sea churns? Like a storm, but like... the rain, only gentle... like dripping water...

It bellows, from deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep inside of me...

Here it comes! Up through my insides! But gently... like little droplets...
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>>155693296
>no one expects 800AR smoughs hammer
No one expects to get hit by it, you mean
That's flashy as fuck tho
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I'm too autistic to wing a second playthrough without guidance.
Is there really no 100% completion checklist that includes the finicky gesture requirements?
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>>155693513
>crow person
>male
DELETE
THIS
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>>155693513
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>>155693519
did anyone ITT actually get fooled by Patches on their first unspoiled playthrough of DaS3?
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>>155693296
Link?
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>>155693719
>DS3
He did a good job of impersonating onion if i'm honest but i killed the giant with a bow before that so i got him mad, in Demon souls i feel for his trick
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>>155693659
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I've started playing yesterday. I'm at the fog gate for Vordt. I can be summoned by others but I can't summon anyone else, I keep getting summoning error. Is there something I need to set up for things to work properly?
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>>155693802
do you have any Quelana?
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>look away for a second and I'm dead

Sorry Ehrindale, that was stupid of me.
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>want to wear cool gear when I PvP
>always has shit armor values
I just can't handle the inefficiency
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>>155693802
Who is that?
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>>155692928
>And no NPC managed to top that.
you fuckin wut m9?

>LOOK MASTER, I'VE DONE IT! I'VE DONE IT! I'VE POUNDED, AND GROUNDED, AND SMASHED THIS ROTTEN SIREN INTO A FLESHY, PINK PULP!

>THERE, YOU FILTHY MONSTROSITY! WHAT GOOD'S YOUR IMMORTALITY NOW?? TRY STIRRING UP TROUBLE IN THIS SORRY STATE! WITH EVERY INSIDE ON THE OUTSIDE, FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE!

>HAHAHAHAHA
>AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH
>*roars*
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>>155693719
it didn't occur to me it was patches, but there was obviously no reason for them to put a duplicate seigward in the game.
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>>155693746
I got you, 3 hours in

/yukaslegion2/v/91229050
on twitch
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>>155693850

Yes, but I don't have anything that's exceptionally good.

>>155693904

An unnamed pyromancer.
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>>155693637
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>>155690789
Can anyone draw my waifu?
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Name a better boss than Ludwig
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>>155694489
Champion Gundyr
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>>155694489
Champion gundyr
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>>155694489
Maria and Gehrman
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>>155694212
>02:59:24
Do PS4 users show their char name or their psn?
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hey, just looking for some help trying to run DS 1 PTDE on my windows laptop.
When it was working before, half the time it was fine but half the time once it started and i clicked on it it would crash and my screen would become black outlined in white, i could still use it but everything just looked like that but i could see the dock fine.
But now it won't even open, when i try to run it my steam icon turns green for a second, waits, then turns back blue and it doesnt start up even for a second.
Has this happened to anyone else, and can someone help me?
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>>155694212
>Yukas doesn't even recodnize smough's hammer
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>>155694575
is there any yuri between Maria and the good Huntress?
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>>155694585
Depends on what you set on [Okayer Name Display]
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what non-meta weapons have never let you down in pvp, in each game?
des-istarelle
das-greataxe
ds2-silverblack spear
ds3-drang hammers
bb-boomhammer
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>>155694212
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>Priscilla covenant could have been a thing
>this would have been the animation for the offering window
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the Old Hunter's Bone that you find in Yharnam is Maria's bone, right?
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And cathedral is dead
Better go continue to irithyll
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>>155695079
i assume so, but it does refer to a 'he' iirc
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>>155694619
please help, I really don't know what to do
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>>155694980
>we will never experience this with the first person mod
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>>155695203
it says "they" in Japan
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A bloodshade was in the goddamn 2dog room, what the hell?
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>>155694707
I remember one where she kept killing and torturing femhunter. Can't find it
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>>155694770
>das
Claymore
>ds2
Claym0ar
>ds3
Arbalest
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>>155694212
>bloodshades are a reflection of peeve someone who just talks shit
I love twitch chat now
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>>155694770
DeS- Bastard sword/Kilij
DaS- Demon Great Machete/Obsidian GS
Ds2-Partizan/Murakumo
Ds3-Murakumo/Zwei
BB- Saw Cleaver/Amygdalan arm

Sorry, I found it hard to even narrow it down to 2
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>>155694770
DS1: Large Club
DS2: Dragonrider Halberd
DS3: Tailbone Spear
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>>155694619
>>155695221
You're using dsfix, right? Mess around with the settings in the ini.
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>>155695350
i tried disabling it by renaming dinput8 but it still didnt work
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from now on if you wanna wake me up you have to yell HEY
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>>155695265
Water reserve can be accessed if the host has the wall illusion dispelled
good for pvp cause it's big and gives lightning a buff
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>>155695203
Yes it's her bone
Use it to bully her
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>>155694770
Gundyr's halberd is my favorite weapon.
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>>155695402
>gives lightning a buff
Does the water really do that?
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>>155695402
A shade ran there from us.
Felt no shame using knight's crossbow
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how many times did it take for you to kill the Orphan of Kos for the first time?

>>155695427
>OHB being useful in pve
>ever
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>>155691210
anon...
the CKGS does better 40/40 than 66STR 2h
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>>155695402
>gives lightning a buff
That includes hitting them when they're stepping on it with any lightning damage attack? I know lightning hits to the water causes AoE but damage buff?
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>>155694545
>>155694568
I kinda wish he hit harder and didnt have the massive, glaring weaknesses of wearing metal armor. He just gets shit on by certain weapons or builds.
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>>155694489
>name a better boss than Ludwig
Literally impossible however, runner ups would be
Artorias
O&S
Manus
Burnt Ivory King
Alonne
Fume Knight
Champion Gundyr
Nameless
SoC
Maria
in my opinion
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>there are people that will defend limited left-handed movesets

why
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>>155695517
If you're wet lightning hurts more and fire hurts less
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>>155695726
Same people who defend the zero weapon variety and infinite summons with "git gud I do x all the time with y you just have to z"
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>>155695335
>DeS- Bastard sword
Was it for the sheath?
>>155695384
Tried rebooting? Tried reinstalling? Tried deleting (back it up first) your savedata in mydocuments\nbgi\darksouls?
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>>155694707
>>155695268
Found it

http://archiveofourown.org/series/454792
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>>155695726
>there are still people who defend offhand rapiers etc

>>155695773
>there are still people who think the balance limitations that come up when you incorporate dual wielding don't ultimately just limit the number of viable weapons more
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>>155695749
>the only other place with water are crab swamp
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>guy is sleeping
>party does everything they can think of to wake him up except yelling in his face
come on guys
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>>155695831
Heck yes
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>>155695726
>you can re-summon a killed phantom with the invader still present
you shouldn't even be able to re-fill a dead phantom's slot until the invader is gone
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>>155695951
No
>cathedral giant poop and water area
>untended graves pools
>farron keep
>irithyll sewers
>capital poison swamp

Be creative
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>>155695903
thanks bud
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Badshades are on Xbox, found one at sl50 or so. They are even worse than you people say
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>>155696027
You can do that in the other games though.
I swear, it seems you never faced a gank before 3.
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>>155694212
just finished watching

they're shit on ps4 too and a ton of parry kings
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is it even possible to kill Wolnir without cutting his bracelets? As in, could you theoretically smack him for 40 minutes and eventually fully deplete his HP "manually?"
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Apparently the last fight broke something, I'mma suicide and reset.

I've still got another hour of hosting in me, I think.
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>>155696278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKRtKxKYJ8
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>>155696176
Oh sweet, I just made an SL 56 character. Where are they invading? Catacombs? Might put a white sign down there tomorrow.
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Sorry to end on that note Ehrindale, but it's late for me and I'm pretty tired. That was a good run though. Good luck.
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>>155696278
Yes

If you do, you'll find mew under the Tricked ya :^)
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>>155696214
>You can do that in the other games though.
it's like you think that's a good defense
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>>155696278
Ya, he takes decent damage on his hands. I had to kill him once by smacking his hands after breaking 2 bracelets because all he did was attack with that hand and I could never hit the bracelet.
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Greathammers really need a speed boost, not to make it easier to hit per se, but because people can literally attack/parry attempt and roll away without being hit because roll recovery is fucking instant

They kept greathammers the same speed as they were in DaS1, but buffed every other gameplay and moveset facet

I'm wondering if a single employee at Fromsoft uses greathammers, and if they do, how do they constantly lose in pvp and not make a formal complaint about it to the balance team?
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>>155696361
It was a good run, thanks for coming along.

I'm, still hosting here if any other Vicar wants to lay down a sign. We need 1 more at the moment.
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>>155696389
It's like it wasn't a problem and 3 has bigger issues than it that hurt PvP
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>>155696351
that's actually really cool
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>>155696574
>they increase greathammer perseverance
>people can still attack into yo, realize you've used perseverance, AND roll away, before your attack lands
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>>155694707
There was a Soulsborne thread on /u/, not sure if it's still up or not but you can find it in the archive if not. Though it was generally agreed that the Hunter is for the Doll.

Maria has Adeline anyways.
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>>155696574

Hammers are even worse, almost as slow while having less reach, range, less AR by far and no HA. Hammers are consistently the worst class in each of these games yet they still include them while making them useless, the only time they were even good in this series was for early DaS2 PvE.
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>>155696718
I saw that thread but it degenerated (?) into about 100+ posts of loreposting and everyone forgot to keep posting lewd, so I lost interest in it
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>>155696574
I'd take a change in moveset.
Even DaS1 has a bit of variety on GH rolling R1s
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>>155696663
Perseverance and shields need more bumping power. The fact two handing prevents them from reflecting anything, making them far less useful than even sone enemie's shields really hurts.
Besides daggers, I guess, which could get a fast recovery, everything smaller than a GS should bump against them
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>>155696574
Pfft, try using a poor mace some time.
Swings as slow as a greatsword, half the reach, less damage, no pokes at all in any moveset, rolling attacks are slow, weapon art wasted on hyper armor that it should just naturally have because of it's lack of everything else

You could give the small club class of weapons instant full hyper armor on all attacks from the very beginning, and they would only become "good" not even OP SHIT HYPU TEIR.
You'd think they'd have taken a hint from the network test where everyone avoided the mace guy and used knight ss guy
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>>155696771
Not sure which loreposting-fest you left during, but a drawfag came in later and did some cute stuff, pic related.
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I played DeS, DS and BB but skipped DS2. Should I play DS3?
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>>155696936
No.
Leave while you only played the good games. Pretend 2 and 3 don't exist
Don't share our curse
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>>155692312
Always

>>155692659
Whatever you need to tell yourself.
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So if my tired ass is reading the patch notes correctly, release is at 3AM EST? Is there any way to preload on console? Found it in the store but it only redirects to the Season Pass, or does the patch put the content in the game and buying the DLC just unlocks it? Just don't want that time to roll around and still need to be downloading shit.
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>>155696352
Take a wild fucking guess.
Oh and also if you see somebody named darthraven9 send me a message.
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>>155696936
yeah
DS2 warrants at least one playthrough in my opinion, but it's not really needed for DS3.
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>>155696936
you can do a playthrough of ds2 as long as you got it for free
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>>155696936
Certainly. It's a good game, though don't go in expecting something of Bloodborne's quality.
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>>155696802
Maybe shields needs more classes so they can create a reflection hierarchy. Small shields and parry shields are the lowest class. Medium shields are where the split happens. The smaller of the bunch are regular shields, anything bigger are greatshields. Then, the greatshields we have now become ULTRA greatshields. Any weapon that is a lower tier than the shield it hits will now bounce off. Maybe 2 handing them bumps up their tier by 1. Maces and hammers have advantages against shields though, and can hit 1 tier above them without bouncing off.
Dumb idea?
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>>155695459
Idk lost count but surprisingly enough when I did finally beat him
It was a flawless kill
3 parries and 2 backstabs, not a scratch on me
Max ng too
And shut up OHB looks cool
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>>155696936
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

I think DaS3 is still worth a play though.
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>>155696718
Where's Adeline's big plip plop head
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>>155697440
>Luci has shit taste as usual
BB>DaS1>DeS>DaS3=DaS2
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>>155697536
She used to be a blood saint. It's not too far-fetched to propose that she and Maria knew each other before the experiments began.
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who is the Jetstream Sam of the Souls series?
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>mfw I'm winning a majority of my invasions at pontiffs with a +4 great scythe at sl56 unironically
These people suck shit, I've only lost to three man ganks.
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>>155697635
>DaS3=DaS2
I usually don't say this, but kill yourself. It will be better for everyone.
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>>155697742
> luci telling others to kill themselves
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>>155697662
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>Tfw I only played DaS2 and DaS3
Should I buy DaS1 for PC? I play with mouse and keyboard btw
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>>155697912
Yes, but make sure you download the mouse+keyboard fix and dsfix
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>>155697861
That's how you know it's bad.
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>>155697912
>he never fought Artorias
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>>155697742
>kill yourself
Literally no arguments, DaS3 cucks cant accept their game is a pile of shit
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>>155698008
Is there a dsfix for DaS3 yet? Just something to optimize it better?
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exactly how much time did it take for everything in the backstory of Bloodborne to happen?
>discovering the Old Labyrinth
>building a body of research at Byrgenwerth
>the founding of the Hunters, to spelunk the Labyrinth and clean up after the unsavory byproducts of Byrgenwerth's experiments
>Willem's disillusionment with blood experimentation and his insistence on finding cords
>ascendance of Rom
>Laurence and Gehrman summoning the MP and making a pact with it behind Willem's back
>desecrating the Hamlet
>Laurence and Gehrman running away to found the Healing Church in Yharnam
>building the infrastructure and cathedrals/laboratories/etc. of the Church
>the founding of the Powder Kegs and the burning of Old Yharnam
>the execution of Cainhurst Castle and the founding of the Healing Church Hunters
>building the Astral Clocktower and experimenting with seawater
>Maria finding the Hamlet in the Nightmare and the foundation of the Hunter's Nightmare
>finding Ebrietas and the formation of the Choir
>the Church building their new, improved body of research on ascending humans via Ebrietas' blood magic + insight teachings
>the schism between the Choir and the Mensis
>the Mensis making contact with Mergo and pulling themselves into the Nightmare
>the prepping of the Mensis Ritual
I mean, this is a LOT of shit to happen. It had to have been hundreds of years, just building all of the cathedrals, and the body of research that evolved, would take multiple whole generations from birth to death. It can't have been a few decades at most, it just can't, there's too much that happened.
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>>155698107
I accept that it is the worst of the Miyazaki games, but it is still worlds better than the rubbish that was DaS2. Even the DaS2 network test was better than DaS2.
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>dark souls fans constantly shitting on dark souls games

i don't understand, why do you guys even continue to play them if they are so terrible?
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>>155697864
>using the rifle spear
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>>155698264
Relatively everything is terrible.
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>>155698264
>why do you guys even continue to play them if they are so terrible?
But I play, I have +800h in DaS2
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>messing around with the greatsword in cathedral of the deep
>decide to try invade someone
>they're called Griffith
>cut them in half with the greatsword
Maximum kek
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>>155698264
Because DaS2 was a mistake, but the others are pretty good.
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>>155698264
>he's never been to a board on 4chan in his entire life
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so let me get this straight

offensive miracles are mediocre until you get booku high investment, which is fine

but the buffs have reduced effectiveness in PvP which is arguably the main draw of a faith build

why? is it not bad enough they can get removed by a fucking duel charm?
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>>155699420
weapon buffs were never good in pvp unless you only played against people who were too stupid to wait them out
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>>155699420
Self buffs like sacerd oath are trash for some reason

Lightning Blade is okay in terms of not being reduced but everything has obscene lightning resistance

Blessed Weapon is imbalanced leaning overpowered though
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Teach me to parry
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>>155698458
what's the best armor for cosplaying Griffith in DaS3? Silver Knight?
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>>155699717
Blessed Weapon? why?
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>>155699760
Its too bright. Your opponent can't see shit.
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>>155699760
It scales off your weapons AR instead of spell buff and also benefits from any damage multipliers during attacks, I think, meaning you can do good damage with the buff for very little stat investment.
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>>155699760
>almost no faith investment
>can be cast with base ATT
>adds 7.5% physical AR (although the amount does not scale)
>physical
>AR
>thereby making it better than magic/crystal/lightning weapon and darkmoon blade
>health regeneration side gig
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>>155699760

Blessed Weapon is technically the best buff depending on the weapon. Ignoring the health regen which actually does scale off your Faith, even at base requirements it gives a 7.5% boost to your weapons pure physical AR. This isn't noticeable on lower AR weapons but on things with higher AR like says FUGS it adds a decent amount of damage and is the best buff in the game in terms of effective damage it adds compared to a resin.

The drawback though is that it is the shortest lasting buff at about 45 seconds.
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What's a good place to put my sign down to murder phantoms as a mound maker?
I'm getting kind of bored of all the Bloodshade and Popes running around Anor Londo
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>>155699939
>be summoned
>as a grape

We're not playing the same game
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Is there any weapon that is actually decent with a lightning infusion?

Thanks.
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>>155700493
Dragonslayer's Axe
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please use seeds if you are hosting vicars!
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>>155700493

Corvian Scythe, Thrall Axe, Carthus Curved Sword, usual good weapons with good base AR.

>>155700513

Actually a bad idea since you don't gain much actual Faith scaling while losing the ability to buff it with Gold Pine or Lightning Blade which is where most of the damage will come from.
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Post R34 on Ceaseless Discharge
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>>155700693
I'll show you my ceaseless discharge!!
*whips out dick*
;)
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>tfw hirame will never make a dark souls 3 doujin
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What's the best spot to invade as a red spirit and why is it catacombs of carthus?
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>>155700896
>anywhere but cathedral

Feels like stalking your prey there
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>>155700740
Epic maymay bro
XDD
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>>155700823
It's for the best. They're good at faces, not fluffy tails
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>>155700989
thanks yo ;^))!!
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>>155700979
What is the best level design in DS3 and why is it Cathedral of the Deep?
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>DLC 2 returns to the Drangleic region
>Dark Souls 3 gets access to pre-nerf Santier's Spear, pre-nerf hexes, pre-nerf Ruler's Sword and pre-nerf Helix Halberd + Syan's Halberd paired weapons
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>>155701210
And the game will still be shit
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Good purge tonight, despite the lag and invisible shades.
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>tfw playing BB again after DaS3

>Tfw the tutorial area is more deep and complex and labyrinth like than half of DaS3 put together

>First boss is fucking Gascoine

Iudex and all the rest are total faggots compared to based Gascoine.

I think people who say BB is the best are right. I just realised I played in a single sitting from character creation all the way to the woods and I never had to actually warp anywhere, I just walked from place to place like I'm having an actual journey.
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>>155701247

maybe you will feel more compelled to play the game since you'll have something in common with it
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>>155701254
>le epic ganking
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>>155701210

>tfw they nerfed the powerstanced Lion Greataxe/UGS combo right away in 2s lifespan despite it being comparatively worse to actual meta options while still being useful

That and the golfswing nerf will never not make me mad.
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>>155701312
Here's a full list of people who care about what you think:
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>>155701275
You went all the way to the woods without leveling up or upgrading your weapon?
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>>155701275
BB easily has the best starting area in terms of challenge and depth thany any other souls
Also
>first boss is gasciogne
Technically trie depending on how you go through the area, but most players probably fought cleric beast first
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>>155701061
It's the only place that has a decent amount of shortcuts and feels somewhat connected and populated.
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>>155701430
Gascan is the first required boss. Cleric beast is 100% optional and leads to a dead end.
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>>155701293
Damn bro fukkin burrrned me dawg
And im sure your the Chad of your town bud. Go hollow
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>>155701382

rip one of the only fun mechanics in the entirety of that sea of shit.
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>>155701275
Admitting that BB is the best is just part of the journey. Doesn't mean that the Souls games are bad of course.
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>>155701275
>only played BB up to blood-starved beast before
Hopefully I can afford a PS4 soon so I can play the rest.
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>>155701509
Not talking about required im talking about first boss your most likely to run into
Gascan
Fuck off tripfag
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>>155701410
>invading in catacombs
>invaded world of bloodshade x
>oh boy
>run around for 5 seconds trying to find him
>host of embers defeated
I can only assume he fell off a cliff
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>>155701589
Oh fuck son your missing out. Best Lovecraft spinoff game ever
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>>155701210
I want mundane dagger back!
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>>155701674
Likely. They die by themselves very often.
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>>155701410
>the greatarrow hitting him after he died
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Mound-Makers, Law Breakers, let us fight them all. Why not?
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>>155701842
Its hysterical


It reminds me of this scene from old simpsons where homer steps on a nail, it just slides into his foot like nothing and makes a smooth sound
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When exactly did the Carthus curved sword become meta? I put down the game around May and just picked it back up recently.
I had it equipped on character I was using because it fit the character and looked baller as fuck. never saw it anywhere else then, but now it's fucking everywhere
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>>155702508
within the first month the game was out
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>>155702508

It's been meta shortly since launch because people realized how amazing it is quickly. It is the highest AR Curved Sword, with the longest reach after the Storm Curved Sword, has bleed, and has negligibly higher stamina cost to compensate for all these positives. Combined with the 2HR1 and running attacks which are some of the best attacks in the game with its reach and damage makes it a shoe-in for meta status on any level.
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>>155691210
I tend to use pussyslayer axe in the offhand when I'm doing an UGS build.
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>>155691210
manserpent hatchet or champ halberd

also cathedral gs would be better with 40/40 and blessed weapon
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We should make our own covenant that isn't just "anti-reddit". I'm thinking something focused around low-mid level invasions because those are pretty sparse.
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>>155694980
I'd prefer a Dancer covenant but I don't know how that'd work.

You get a purging stone from your victim's inventory after killing them for the covenant upgrade system? I dunno.
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>>155702671
What infusion should I give the Curved Sword ?
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>>155703643
refined, the answer is always refined
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>>155703372
Yellowfingers, go with the golden theme
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>>155703643

Refined at 27/40 or Hollow if you want to add 30 Luck to that.
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>>155696936
das3 is much better than two and on par with one
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>>155703726
Sounds pretty great, yellow gear can identify members. I might come up with some level-ranges and sample gear. If this stupid bloodshade thing can work despite the edginess and general idiocy surely a more well crafted and less edgy covenant can work.
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>>155703928
Nice b8 m8
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>>155703693
Thank you anon
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>>155703971
sorry you have shit taste
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>kinda like ds3 but feel it's got so much more potential that the dlc could bring along with the base problems
>now I know the dlc likely won't fix any of those problems and will be 10 dollars worth of content in a 25 dollar package
Is it time to move on?
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>>155703969
Nameless set, brass set, xantheous set, dunkstein and slamough sets,
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>>155704083
I'd say just make sure you've got a yellow chestplate. Sunset armor works too. I'm going to think about this a bit.
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>>155704061
>Dark Souls 3
>shortest game in the series
>bonfires out the ass
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>On-disc cut content that will be sold as DLC
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>rehashed animations
>fails to innovate
>invasions sucks
>Heavy armor sucks
>armor sets don't even fit properly
>brown and grey
>shit AI
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>Magic itself does reduced damage for PvP
>awful scaling balance
>FP is the most awful casting management system introduced yet (worse than DeS mana, which had better regen options and more efficient)
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one locked behind the final boss
>bland NG+
>awful covenants
>no blue eye orb
>blue sentinels and darkmoons the exact same
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for special weapons resulting in less weapon variety than BB
>very little moveset variation
>existence of Carthus Rouge
>WA are mostly shit or copypasted powerstance moves
>no tech
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frame
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>no dragon covenant
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB

>the DLC actually won't save it
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So, what would you guys suggest for a STR/VIT build Vicar?
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>>155704276
Write it down and test it, I'm making a fai/str now and should be able to adjust this one into it
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>>155704385
Its all a travesty, if you ask me.
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>>155704503
stop samefagging, jesus christ you're pathetic
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>>155704412
At SL 170 pure STR isn't worth.
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>>155704523
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>>155704614
>>155704523
Your next line is "Nice MSpaint skills"
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>>155701809

As fucking ridiculous as it was, it was fun to begin with before literally everyone started doing it.
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>>155704523
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>>155701842

Great Arrows give me PTSD from when Dietrich (I think that was his name?) in FFA Fight Clubs would go full Silver Knight Archer cosplay and just pelt people with great arrows while they were fighting others.

It was amazing.
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>Best Girl
>weapons bearing her name are crap

how can I be a true blue moon
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>>155704472
Well we should go for the gay-ass names if possible, just for the ease of identification. I'm thinking that it should actually be an "invade as sunlight warrior" if we really want to go yellow, then the armor sets can be freed up. That or make sure everyone is wearing an untrue dark ring, but that poses different problems. Let me think a bit.
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>>155704631
You captured my only move!
>>
dsg discord link where
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>>155704740
>you will never lick the dirt off her feet
why live
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>>155704815

I mean personally, I'd go for more of a Rogue-like theme of things. Just make everyone look like ragged thieves and fight with daggers, quickstepping all around them. Chasing them down with quickstep.

But on the other hand, I've wanted to use a "Fingers" name for a long time now.
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>>155705032
Why not both?
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>>155691210
Heavy broadsword
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>>155705261

Well, the Fingers are generally very wide. But this was specifically "Yellowfinger"-like faction, I believe was being discussed? Sort of narrows down the choices.
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>>155705032
How about this?
>Yellowfingers invade in all areas from Settlement to Irithyll (not dungeon)
>All Yellowfingers use the obscuring ring and most wear some kind of yellow/gold attire, those that don't invade as gold phantoms
>Yellowfingers are advised to wear the ring of favor as well, since it's gold and it also provides some decent benefit
>Yellowfingers make sure they're on the upper end of the levels found in their areas, and always bring weapons upgraded to the maximum attainable level for their areas to ensure they don't end up invading people who are too underpowered
>If two yellowfingers invade the same person, they don't fight each other and should work together
>Yellowfingers always prioritize blues if possible
>Yellowfingers are advised to use ambush tactics and enemies to beat hosts, don't duel, you're an invader so you should be a dick
Aside from that, just have fun I guess.
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finger is censored, just so you guys don't get ahead
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What's the general ruling now again, with starting class?

>Pyromancer if you start mage
>Knight if you start melee
>Warrior if you're going full strength

Or did I get it wrong?
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>>155705452
I will kill those fucking jap niggers I swear to christ
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>>155705452
>they censored words they used in-game
Seriously, what were they thinking? Even simple words like knight are censored
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>>155705489
warrior if you are quality
if you are going mage and you start with anything but sorcerer you are retarded
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>>155705429

>tfw if you manage to invade someone with another Finger
>one of the two whips out a bow with poison arrows
>one fights the host/blue/phantoms
>one pelts with arrows all the time

I see this could be fun.
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>>155705573
Yeah but this guy >>155705452 is right, yellowfinger is censored. The theme isn't really that important though, but we need a non-censored name.
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Does anyone know how to make your eyes glow red like champion gundyr's
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When you guys want to try a new build do you just blow a respec or start a file from scratch?
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>>155705489
Warrior for melee
Pyro for pyro

Nothing else is worth it
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>>155705558

Pyromancer gets far more bang out of their buck with starting stats than Sorcerer.
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>>155699740
Rolling attacks are pretty easy to see coming. Just don't try to parry a normal attack as someone who sees it coming can run around and backstab you.
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>>155705452
Is it because it has nig in it?
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>>155704919
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>>155705764
No it's because you can finger people sexuallly
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>>155705764
No, it's because "finger" is ""sexual"" according to gooks who don't speak english. That's like saying けつ is sexual because it can be used to describe sex acts. They're fucking retarded.
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>>155705809
>>155705853
Then why is knight censored?
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So, I make this build with the Lothric Sword buffed with CMW in mind as my vicar build. I am considering switching gears to to the cleric's candlestick and the darkmoon bow solely. I feel like I could integrate my spells better this way and have more hp and non-melee offensive options as well as cooler spell-melee shit.

Should I do this or stick with the quality lothric sword?

R Weapon 1 is Cleric's Candlestick
R Weapon 2 is Darkmoon bow
R Weapon 3 is Refined Lothric Sword
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>>155698118
I don't know how you can optimize THIS
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>>155705925
It's not all of knight that's censored, It's just nig. All of finger is censored. Also finger doesn't contain the string "nig".
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>>155701382
>insta-gib 4000 damage L1 L1
fuck off
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How do I make webms and what should my obs settings be
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>>155705573
How about "stalker"? Like, say, "Stalker <playername>"

Then we just change the theme to
>Stalkers always use the obscuring ring
>Stalkers always wear face-covering armor
>Stalkers are encouraged to use cloth armor to stay light
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Man why do so many people run away and summon/chug estus during fights now? This shit is so fucking annoying
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>>155706525
>now
I was invading since day 3, they always did it. It's especially bad at low levels.
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>>155706585
You're right, I guess I'm just thinking of DaS. I'm leveling up a new character for the DLC and everyone I invade is either running around with 3 people, summons or uses their 10 estus. I don't get it.
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>>155706714
Use enemies. The invasion matchmaking pretty much ensures you'll only get co-op parties full of scrubs.
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>invaded and can't go deeper into Dungeon because of my Greirat
>pop a seed
>wait
>see numbers sometimes
>wait
>darkmoon arrives
>we wait
>invader dies
thanks for reading my livejournal
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>>155706079
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/WebM
4chan doesn't support VP9 and you'll have to use the -an option too.
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>DS3
>Can be summoned by others for Coop
>can't summon anyone myself
I don't know what's wrong.

I don't know if this is related but I can't seem to drop messages either, the "Finish" button after choosing text is greyed out.
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>>155707174
>summoning people
You'll be better of gitting gud.
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>>155707213
I just want to have fun.
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>>155707560
>cheaters
>when so many of the memeshits are ACTUAL hackers
holy kek
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>>155707560
Where can I get into this discord so I can laugh at them?
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>>155707560
nice trace loser
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>>155707560
we posting discord now
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Holy fuck doing Dancer early breaks PvE.

>Red-eyed Lothric Knights drop Large Shards

>Thralls in the garden drop Chunks, there's 3-4 casually lying around too

Simply by doing a moderately difficult fight early, you can technically get a +9 weapon before Abyss Watchers or Crystal Sage.

10/10, FromSoft, 10/10.
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>>155708181
in lothric castle there are like 20 chunks you can get
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>>155708181
>moderately difficult
That fight can easily be prohibitively difficult depending on your level. I've done it at 15 and 20 and I can tell you that it sure as shit isn't easy when one bad hitbox can murder you.
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at what point in the game is AoA meant to be accessed at? after you've beaten soul?

i know it doesn't matter all that much, but i want to prep a character to plat as close to intended as possible
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>>155708272
I posted as I just found out for myself, having beaten Dancer 20 minutes ago at SL25. It's annoying, sure, but when you've gotten the attack pattern down and you know which attacks to simply back off from it's not that bad.

>>155708336
Assuming you mean Artorias of the Abyss, really after you get the Lordvessel. If you solo'd O&S you shouldn't have too much trouble with the DLC.
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>>155708181
Is the invincible NPC glitch still a thing?
I was thinking about making a new guy for the dlc.
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>>155708387
Well I'm on a "toaster" (not really but this game is optimized like shit) and the combination of 20-25FPS, the grab hitbox, and the dual blade slam/spin makes it hell.
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>>155708387
>Assuming you mean Artorias of the Abyss
I almost made that mistake too. He means the DaS3 DLC.
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>>155708423
no
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>>155708423
Nope :^)
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>>155708387
>>155708459
yeah, sorry, i meant Ashes of Ariandel, forgot that Artorias abbreviates in a similar way, sorry
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>>155708423
Nope. Got patched out pretty much immediately. If you are having serious issues though just post here and ask for a summon, there's usually someone around willing to come help.

>>155708449
Can't speak for toasters, but the grab is telegraphed by this little bow animation she does. Once you notice it, it's trivial to avoid the grab.

>>155708459
Ah, gotcha. My bad.
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>>155708573
It's not the telegraph, it's the broken-ass hitbox on the grab that can hit you from nowhere near where the model is. It's well documented and still unpatched as far as I know.
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Could someone do me a solid and screenshot what the Sneering Mask, Sorcerer Robe and Evangelist Trousers look like together? This is important.
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>clutch rings only give 7% increased damage in PvP and increases damage taken by 15% instead of 10%


why tho
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>>155708920
twinks
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>>155693719
I did because he wore the Onion armor. I thought that he had been the Onion the entire time.
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>>155708860
Looks ugly
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not the anon that tried it initially but this looks slightly better.
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>>155709012
Thanks, but I meant the Sorcerer Robe, the one the class starts with.
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>>155709002

it makes them basically worthless though
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>>155708181
Do thralls really drop chunks? The shortcut ones right?
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>>155709075
Welcome to ds3, where most equipment is basically useless
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>>155709084
Yep. Droprate isn't amazing, but it's definitely farmable.
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>>155694980
>Priscilla is most likely dead in the DLC
>there's no reason to have her in it dead or alive but they'll probably put her corpse in it just to spite us
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>tfw finally beat DSII: SOTFS

final boss was a bit easy


do I play bloodborne next or DSIII?
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>>155709060
Oh oops
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>>155709173
Damn, it looked better in my mind. Thanks anon.
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>>155709172

Beat all the DLC bosses?
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>>155693179
>why do I get told ds2 has better netcode
Because you're dealing with blind fanboys. DS2 had by far the worst pvp netcode in series. Absolutely horrifying.
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>>155698008
>tfw played through DaS but never fought Artorias

never knew you could fight him Tbh, how do you even trigger it?
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>>155706261
Stop reminding me that I want Slav Souls
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>>155709360
In the DLC you dumbfuck
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>>155709430
KYS frogposter
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>>155709281
yeah, all done
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>>155709451
I just played through the PTD edition so I didn't know when the DLC started, what else is in it?
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>>155709504
Considering DS3 is just bloodborne with a Dark Souls skin thrown over the top, Bloodborne. Better bosses, environments and atmosphere.
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>>155693296
Is there a vod or did you record it?

Also why are you cheating?
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>>155709172
DaS3. BB is better. You'll enjoy DaS3 more if you play it before BB.
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>>155709578
I'm going to play both eventually but I'm just wondering which one to play first, thinking 3, what with the new DLC coming out soon and that, I've never played a souls game when it's been new
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>>155693402
He's just a little cold but really warms up once you give him enough scrolls
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>>155709568

Oh
Well
You had to kill a blueish golem at the start of the Archives and then go back to the lake where you fought the Hydra, where Dusk's sign was. Go to the spot where you could look her dress and you will be warped to the DLC.

SIMPLE right? How did you know find that our yourself what the FUCK?
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>>155709735
I had no reason to go back to the lake, maybe I'll do it at some point, is it a good fight?
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>>155709735

Loot her dress*
I just woke up.
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>>155709782
Anon there are 3 areas in the DLC with 4 bosses.
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>>155709782

Yeah there is absolutely no reason to go back, that makes the DLC entry spot a bit stupid. It's not just the artorias fight, there is a huge new place waiting with 4 new bosses in total. Artorias is not even the main boss. Artorias is a false hyped up legend just like Big Boss.
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>>155709782
just fucking do the DLC jesus
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>>155709815
like I said I played PTD edition, I didn't know what was different in that version from vanilla

>>155709840
considering replaying it then

>>155709865
alright lad dry your eyes fucking hell
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>>155709840
>Artorias is a false hyped up legend just like Big Boss.

Go fuck yourself, the Artorias fight is amazing.
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>>155709898

Yeah but he got his shit fucked up by manus, he doesn't even remontely live up to the legend, we had to do it for him. I mean did he even really make it to Manus or did he fail before that?
Manus is also pretty much the only high powerlevel boss we fight at full power. No fallen from grace-shit, he is powerful and he is angry as fuck.
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>>155709886
go there RIGHT NOW
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>>155709020
touched it up a bit more.
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>>155710036
wtf is this am I have a flashback or something
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>>155709898
He might be a cool boss but lore-wise he's a fucking failure on every single possible level and deconstruction of a typical "fabled hero" archetype.
His legend is fabricated by his buddies.
His achievements are fabricated up to a point of creation of a cult that probably did more to stop the Abyss than Artorias ever did.
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Anyone have a Cathedral Knight Greatsword and/or any pieces of the Cathedral Knight set? I'm trying to farm them but I just want to kill myself.
PC, SL33, Cleansing Chapel, password DSG
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Is the Spiked Shield worth using?
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So /dsg/, I'm helping a friend with the lord of hollows questline. He's at lothric castle already and he never found anri in the catacombs. He last saw her at the road of sacrifices. Is there still hope for him or is he fucked?
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>>155701153
*frightned waddups
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>>155710184
I got a set from using CE if you want it, unless you don't want something item swapped in
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>>155709358
You are delusional. That honor goes to slidesouls3.
Besides every game has stupid netcode shit. Have you forgotten you DaS1 handled backstabs or magic? I don't miss invisible hcsm or pursuers.
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>>155710296
Doesn't matter to me, still getting it from another person instead of doing it myself lol
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>>155710316
Oh no, in DS3 i was never forced to deal with the shit i regularly went through in DS2.
Even if someone is sliding, at least i'm not damaged from 10 meters away by attack that went in completely different direction and that shit was regular in DS2.
DS1 has by far the best handling of latency though, shit players like you just were unable to deal with huge as fuck backstab hitboxes so no wonder you prefer no-skill souls 2 where it's possible to turn backstabs off completely.
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>>155710451
3 FUCKING HITS. 3. HOW? BY THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN FAR ENOUGH.
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>>155710034
b-but I want to play DSIII
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Can you change class when you start a new game plus? I started as warrior but would like to change to knight for more optimal stats for my dex/faith build.
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>>155710405
I'm there now
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>>155710621
what game? I know that in 2 you can respec using soul vessels
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>>155693179
>I never deal with stuff like this in 3
So you're a filthy liar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_dPDq4OM3g
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>>155710621
No not in any game
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>>155710627
I don't see a sign. I've never done this before by the way, I just assumed I need to summon you. Am I supposed to put my sign or something?
Also password is DSG in all caps if it';s case-sensitive
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>>155701153

sup
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I am sick of going though locations for estus upgrades every time I want to try out a new build. Is it safe to CE shards, or something?
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>>155710668
"Your connection is too shit for multiplayer. Kicking your ass back to main menu, faggot" When?
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>>155710668
> Apr 18, 2016
Kek.
Majority of problems with sliding were fixed in like a month.
Unless you have a shit internet in which case all souls games will be just as laggy for you but of course it's DS3's fault.
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>>155710685
Shit. Is it worth replaying as Knight for the 7 instead of 11 Luck?

DS3 btw
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>>155710451
>DS1 has by far the best handling of latency though
Nice try dastard.
What happened to /dsg/? Why is filled with cancer?
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reckon DSIII will go on sale once the DLC drops?
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>>155710782
Your fault.
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>>155710795
Probably on steam winter sales
which is around when, btw?
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>>155710841
really late, last one was on 22 Dec I believe
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>>155710627
Thanks anon! Saved me hours of suffering!
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>>155710782
>Why is filled with cancer?
Because you crawled back here from whatever shithole you've been at.
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>>155710746
>Majority of problems with sliding were fixed in like a month.
lol no.
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>>155710885
T-pose was 100% fixed and i haven't encountered it since May.
Blame your shit internet for the rest.
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>>155710924
>100% fixed
>it still happens
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>>155710841
Late December. I doubt it'll go below 25% though so it's probably not really worth it if you want to play it asap.
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>>155710924

It's not fixed at all and neither is any other major online connection fuckup that existed since launch.
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>>155710728
Bump to muh question.
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>come back to this game after two months
>invasions are still the biggest pile of shit

Because yeah, hosts should have more health, twice as much estus as you and they should be able to summon their high level friends over and over again.
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>>155711451
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?p=5665738#5665738
just because you didn't get softban yet doesn't mean you won't
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>Lloyd is the leader of way of white
>DLC is accessed through ex-cathedral of the way of white, with a lot of mobs using lloyd talismans to fight you
>destructo disc is a miracle depicting the way of white symbol
>profile of a man strapped to a chair in DLC resembles a man depicted on gold coin in DS1
>first DLC shows bosses related to bloodline of old gods before showing him
>japanese subs call him 教父様
Are there any other hints at him being Lloyd or this is enough already to confirm his identity?
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>>155710728

If you gonna cheat, do it on a throwaway family share account.
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>>155711678
If Vaati says hes lloyd then hes lloyd.
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>>155711848
vaati said that cleric beast is ludwig at some point so his opinion counts for nothing
but in this case he's probably right
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>>155710668
>Knight
>Katana and shield
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>>155712039
delete this
never has a videogame triggered me as hard as that.
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>>155690908
>remove text
>instantly 50% better
why did he have to add that cringy shit, the drawing was fine on its own. basides, everyone who understands with the text understands without it
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>>155711678
>>Lloyd is the leader of way of white

Not any longer. Seems like way of white split up into different branches. You got Carim and the Cathedral of the deep(former way of white). Irithyll probably also is a way of white community with the Pontiff as its leader. It also seems like Lothric has its own way of white stuff.
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It's about time to make a new character for the DLC, what's a fun and non-potato weapon?
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>>155712250
Hollowslayer.
Clocked 45 fucking hours with it going up to ng+5 to get a lot of slabs with it and probably will get to ng+7 just to make DLC challenging. Still not tired of the damn thing.
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>>155712039
>Get invaded by a fallen knight with katana and shield in the late game
>He still doesn't know he can get guard broken and keeps blocking all your hits
>He dies in seconds

Every fucking time.

Also

>Blue spirit arrives to help you
>He dies
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>>155712335

Literally the CCS amongst greatswords
>>
How short do you think lore videos would be if they didn't read the entire god damn descriptions of items every single time?
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>>155712389
it would still be 10-15 min because of advertising money/time
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>>155712379
You could say it's a hard counter to CCS. Nothing wrong with that. Greatsword is a great class. You got stuff for almost every character. If you want a long greatsword(claymore) then you have to deal with not having as many hyper armor frames. It feels balanced I guess.
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>>155712464
Claymore still has loads of hyperarmor (0.3 sec. startup instead of 0.2 like hollowlayer from what i remember), it's just generally a bit slower. Still a great weapon.
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>>155698264
extremely high expectations. same reason why berserk fans are considered crybabies. when people see something of such superb quality not continue having that quality, they whine.
also, stockholm syndrome
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>>155712361
I've been running a build based around that. Essentially it looks like one of those shitters, aka Fallen Knight + starting weapon (bandit's axe) and starting shield

>wait until invaded
>act like a noob
>Suddenly parry, switch to the secondary weapon (dragonslayer's greataxe + hornet ring) and one-shot

I stole the concept off a ds1 video I can't be arsed finding right now, it's good fun.
>>
Other than one less damage and 1.0 less weight, is there any difference between the Brigand Axe and the Battle Axe? Does one have more range?
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>>155712614
>I stole the concept off a ds1 video I can't be arsed finding right now, it's good fun.

Probably everybody knows about that video m8.
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>>155710668
>killed so hard you died twice
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>>155712464
don't forget how it fucks up hollow characters. i really don't understand the whining about HS. why is it such a tragedy if there is a top tier weapon that weighs more than 8 units?
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>>155712673
Yeah I know, I just wanted to be sure to reference it anyway and not look like some faggot ripping off shit and claiming it as mine.
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>>155693179

You will also never deal with invisible people or being unable to hit invaders that are able to hit you in Dark Souls 1 and 2. That is a good deal.
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>>155712761
could be worse
could be killed so hard you reach the Cosmos
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Cute!
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>>155712891
is that lucatiel falling in the water at the small corridor before lost sinner?
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>>155712987
Yes
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>>155712887
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>>155713036
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Lightning infusions are still shit right?
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>>155712667
Brigand axe needs 2 more points in str to wield and apparently its warcry grants shield piercing abilities.
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>>155694212
Damn peeves shit on yuka
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>>155713217

>you can infuse your weapon with an element
>or you can do refined and use a resin or buff and always get more damage
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>>155713451

not everyone goes 40/40 tho
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>>155713451
>>155713516
*cringes*
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>>155713516
then raw+buff for even more damage
unless it's dark because those are for when you are too lazy to buff
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If Blessed Weapon buff is good, is the infusion?

I've been thinking about doing faith+blessed whip run to put down the evil.
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>>155690789
This fucko is pretending he's asleep but he's blinking what do I do?
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>>155713547

only thing the blessed infusion is good for is putting it on an off-hand parry dagger

it's shit otherwise
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>>155705489
>Knight for quality
>Warrior for quality/luck and str with or without luck
>Thief for pure luck or dex/luck
>Pyromancer for pyro/dark magic
>Sorcerer/Cleric for pure int or faith
>Deprived for SL1

that's pretty much it
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>>155710239
He missed it.
After meeting her at the road, he must complete the cathedral, then talk to her in firelink shrine, meet her in the catacombs a first time, go kill horace, meet her again near the skeleton bridge, tell her or not about horace "grave" (all that before killing wolnir)
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>>155713547
Blessed buff is good because it makes you do more damage
Blessed infusion is bad because it makes you do less damage
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>>155713547
Blessed infusion is absolute shit. Blessed is only useful for an offhand Caestus.
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>>155692987
Considering I know Bloodshades, this is not a bad thing at all.
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>>155692987

Heh...who would have thunk that Smough would become Aldrich one day..
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>>155713576
>>155713616
>>155713646
How heretical, thanks From.

Still gonna try.
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>>155713824
Anri's sword has the blessed tick built into it and is pretty fashionable
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>>155713574
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>dying to the golden angels over and over because Miyazaki suddenly got a massive hard-on over the thought of Blue Smelter Demon having combo attacks
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>>155713574
kick the asshole
>>
>invading irithyl on new character
>everyone either dies to PvE or is cooping the entire area
c'mon man
>>
>PCucks will never get to experience the best bossfights of the Souls series: Ludwig, Maria & Gehrman

How does this make you feel?
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>>155713868
>there was a fortress, once
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>>155713891
In all these games, I fucking hate flying enemies. Takes the whole combat system and says fuck you.
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>>155714054
*cringes*
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>>155714151
Not him but what was cringe about that? It's fine when bosses can make big jumps, but the game mechanics for melee, your primary tool, don't work well against flying enemies
>>
>can't damage gargoyles with spells whole they're flying

What the fuck
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>>155714218
>>>/r/bloodshades/
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>>155714054
I'm more pissed about dog-type enemies.
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>>155714218
Its some kind of new meme, just try ctrl+f 'cringe'
A new kind of cancer
>>
Tell me why my idea is shit /dsg/

Headpiece: sorceror's monocle
When equipped, place a crosshair that indicates where you are aiming in the center of the screen.

"Something something Vinheim bullshit something something"
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>>155714267
Yeah they're a pain if you don't want to use a shield. If I pop up a shield to block one attack, then I can hit them and it's fine. But if I'm two-handing or just not using a shield they never stop leaping 70 yards at a time at light speed.

>>155714218
He's just shitposting.
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>>155714015
*cringes*
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>>155714054
The combat system also includes ranged attacks.
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Who /Bloodshade/ Here?
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>>155714353
Yep, which are either slow as balls, weak, or both.
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>>155714324
it's not shit, but staffs should have aim on their own with 2hl1
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>>155713845
Anri's "blessed" tick is much weaker than regular blessed weapons
however, it's buffable, so you can cast Blessed Weapon on it
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>>155714447
I coulda sworn I saw somewhere that Anri's heal rate is the same as a +10 Blessed weapon.
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>>155712803
damage increase from it doesnt work on hollow players if you don't know
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Is there any reason to use the Uchi instead of the Washing Pole aside from weight?
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>>155714504
it's not
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>>155714519
two hit combo
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>>155714324
I think spell aiming should be available from a catalyst, not a piece of gear that makes it so everyone has to wear ugly Duck crown 2.0.
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>>155714556
Okay I had my shit mixed up. Thanks anon.
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BLUE EYE ORB WHEN
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>>155714779
the scythe qt from the DLC might be velka
this october
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>>155698264
Familiarity breeds contempt. Souls is one of my absolute favorite series but I'm always going to criticize the flaws as well. Of course, a lot of the flaws are subjective but criticism is a good way to help the developers develop their products further.
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>tfw no yuro vicars
Why is this game dead everywhere but in america?
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>>155714957
why dont you host yourself
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>>155714556
Which group heals are the most mana efficient
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>>155714957
>implying
fuck you I'm gonna host
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>>155714816

A man can dream, but with a gimped sin mechanic I have my doubts. Suppose they could make it work differently but I can't think of a way that would fit with the darkmoon lore
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>>155715005
>can't read the chart
pretty sure it's warmth, although you need to stay on one place and heals enemies. then gentle prayer
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>>155715005
The FP to heal ratio is identical in all of the instant heal miracles, but I think that med heal is the most efficient because it heals quite a lot of HP while usually not being enough to overheal, meaning that your FP won't be wasted on nothing
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>>155715024
>darkmoon
they could make new sinner punishment covenant not connected to darkmoons but to Velka or Lloyd himself
fingers of rosaria are located in ex-way of white cathedral, it would be pretty cool if Lloyd or someone else in DLC had some counter-covenant aimed to hunt them
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>>155698264
For me, the games are of a very small breed of games that are for the most part very challenging but also very fair. The problems that I have with the games are when they do bullshit that is just outright unfair. An example of this would be Champion Gundyr hitting the player while the player is on the ground/standing up and unable to do anything, but can still take damage. It's objectively unfair to the player.
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>>155715080
No numbers on the chart and warmth does not count. I don't want to heal bloodshades.

>>155715096
Yeah I'm thinking heal or great heal. Is there much of a difference in cast time between heal, great heal, and soothing sunlight
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>>155714556
>+10 estus gulp versus soothing sunlight


....wouldn't it be 10 times better on my faith build to go 100% ash estus? I can get full fucking heals from a spell that I can use like twice and recharge with one drink?

That's like having 24 full heal estus's, is it not?
>>
I'm doing a pyromancy only run.
There are any weapons or armors with special effects that are useful for pyromancy?
>>
sl 113 on pc looking for a buddy to beat 4 kings NG+. Steam ID 01100001043eac69 but let me know so I can go human at firelink
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>>155715220
it is, if you can pull them off in a middle of a combat
set them up with lighting storm
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>>155715220

Estus sips are better if you're fighting a boss
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>>155690789
Anyone got the abyss watchers cold steel? Going to put a thiefs mask on it and make it the bloodshades
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>>155715121
>even more redundant covenants
Pls no. It's already retarded enough that we have the Sentinels and Dorkmoons in the same game with too much overlap.
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>>155715220
congrats, you figured it out

I have literally 2 estus as backup when summoned, rest are all blue. I play smart, estus is for that clutch NEED IT NOW heal. Otherwise, I stay topped up on gentle prayer at all times for cheap and soothing sunlight with talisman poise weapon art cast
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>you will never 100-0 stunlock someone with a blessed mirdan hammer ever again
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>>155715326
>invading sinners
>redundant
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>>155715220
I was thinking the same thing but you can chug estus in emergencies
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>>155714446
What if it indicated where you were aiming at all times? So you could 420mlgnoscope?
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>Tag sign at the cleansing chapel on NG+ finger run for comfy co-op
>Sign is placed at a kinda weird spot, tucked away near the altar
>Spawns in
>Immediatly BC's
JUST USE PASSWORDS YOU CUNTS
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>>155715363
Blessed has absolutely no reason being so shit in this game.

Anri's Sword, literally counts as one, has good AR and can be buffed and it's primary stat scaler is a stat you can get 5 free levels in with an offhand hollow weapon

It's bullshit.

Blessed weapons need:

>Better scaling than lightning infusion, all physical, base damage is lowered alot more though
>Blessed infused weapons can be buffed
>Either the HP they heal is increased, or they all now also heal per hit as well as the passive, like Smough's Hammer/Butcher knife do

Simple infusion needs to be the exact same story but for int. Physical damage scaling from magic, best INT scaling on a weapon possible, but the base damage hits the shitter, can be further buffed, heal back mp on each hit and or raise the mp heal rate
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>>155690789
How do i make thick girls?
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>>155715289
Is lightning storm better to give breathing room to cast or is divine pillars better?


Also is sunlight spear the best offensive miracle? Is it worth it to ever use greater lightning spear?
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>>155715378
It's completely redundant when Darkmoons exist. Not to mention the game doesn't even have a "Sin" mechanic anymore and I doubt they'd just patch it in as an afterthought.
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>>155715539

Lightning should scale better but blessed should be buffable and not take such a huge hit to base damage
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>>155715640
Storm is better than Pillars
SLS is the best Faith nuke, once you get it you can just drop GLS forever outside of mindgames with stake
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>>155715649
>game doesn't even have a "Sin" mechanic
it has
it's just hidden
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>>155715649
Dorkcoons dont invade, you asshat. If anything, sentinels are redundant
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>update game so that when you change your covenant, the colour of the orb eye changes, Purple Eye Orb, Blue Eye Orb etc

>Using Blue Eye Orb makes you invade a hosts game but only if they're a hollow and took yoel's free levels

This fixes the game
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sl 113 on pc looking for a buddy to beat 4 kings NG+
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>>155694212
There weren't even any bloodshades in this video. Most were just random reds.

If it were full team of bloodshades then kill any other team
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I hope this clancancer ends soon
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>>155715737
Bull shit. Bloodshades sacrifice damage for bleed at a high level where everyone else has damage + insane buff. They rely on their bleed. Once you munch the red stuff, duel charm their buffs away and all 5 of theirs are gone, they can't get any more back. Blue estus get's refilled when phantoms die though, so endless supply of buffs and spells.

Bloodshades literally only win by all ganging up on one singular person and ignoring anyone else, but this also is why they lose. If the host can manage to stay alive during their spam, they'll all get blindsided by 2hit yhorm's ggnore and crystal soul spears
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>>155694489
>Name a better boss than Ludwig

Artorias
S & A
Sif
Gwyn
Pursuer
Looking Glass \Mirror Knight
Demon of Song
Aldia
Fume Knight\Raime
Ser Alonne
BURNT FUCKING IVORY KING
Champion Gundyr
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>>155715728
Sounds dumb. Just make it invade the world of pvp sinners.
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>>155696936
DaS2 is certainly good for one or two playthrough's, and it has the best PvP in the series so it's long standing on that.

While DaS3 is literally mediocre. There's nothing of note about that game, it's just a "Meh" Souls. The PvP is atrocious and the PvE is "Alright" at the most.
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>>155715946
Shitpost.

All those bosses are basic as fuck compared. You've never even played BB.

Artorias is a dead give away. He's incredibly simplistic and basic as fuck now.

Pursuer? Fucking Aldia?

Get off this board.
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>>155698264
1300 hours in DaS.
350 hours in DaS2
900 hours in DaS2 SofTS
130 hours in DaS3.

You make your own conclusion on which game is the worst.
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>>155716025
>has the best PvP in the series
>>>/out/
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How can DaS2 have the best PvP when the basic movement and combat is the worst in the series?
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>>155715946

>pursuer
>demon of song
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>>155709172
BB. Pretend DaS3 doesn't exists.
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>>155715946
let me help you there boody

>artorias
>manus
>o and s
>pontiff sullyvan

thats it
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>>155716083
Here's me

>DeS
>500 hours
>DaS
>900 hours
>DaS2
>1200 hours
>DaS2 SoftFS
>400 hours
>BB
>700 hours
>DaS3
>400 hours

DaS2 is just alot of game desu. So many weapons, so many rare armours. There's alot there.
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>>155716095
Any post that tells that DS2 has the best pvp should be instantly rejected as the opinion of a person with a damaged brain.
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Any good fashion ideas for Bloodborne? I want to try something other than Eileen cosplay or running around as gothing Revolver Ocelot.
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>souls PvP
>ever 'good'

retards
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>>155716178
None of those are better than Ludwig. Not even on par. Ludwig is 2 bossfights in one, not just a simple gimmick.

Namless King is the only boss that comes close, but it's ruined because his first phase is gimmicky shit camera awfulness, and his 2nd phase is unlimited stamina sorry if you're using a greatweapon let me hit for 300 through even a havels shield bullshit


Ludwig you have to actually fight and dodge and play well, not just simply not get 2 shot
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>>155694489
>DeS
No one.

>DaS
I liked Arty and Manus a bit more, on par with Kenan and Kel though.

>DaS2
Alonne is kinda in par with it, BIK would be better then both if the knight fighting part had better presentation, hypest shit right there.

>BB
I prefer Gherman as a hunter fight and Ebrietas as a monster fight, and Gascoigne as a double fight better.

>DaS3
Nameless, i like the presentation better and SoC mostly for nostalgia bait reasons.
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>>155715764
But the art that one anon makes is really cute
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>>155716262
Some souls games have fun multiplayer interactions.
Others don't.
DS2 is in the second category.
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>>155716327
What's a fun interaction in 3?
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>the Dark Souls 2 shitters and Miyazaki apologists\damage controllists are back

Ah well, the general is going to be pretty trash for the next week.
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>>155716309
>Alonne is kinda in par with it
Not even fucking close. Alonne is just a typical boring DS2 humanoid boss with no challenge, ost or atmosphere of Ludwig.
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>they added tarkus' armor
>but not his sword
well...
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>>155716327

PvP in all of these are trash outside of random invasions

You're a slobbering retard if you think any of them are better than the other in this regard
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>>155716327
>Some souls games have fun multiplayer interactions.
>Others don't.
>DS2 is in the second category.

>forgetting back DeS PvP
>forgetting back DaS's backstab magic spam fest
>literally ignoring the pile of shit which is DaS3 PvP
>now claiming that DaS2 has the worst PvP

Want me to tell you how I know you're b8ing son?
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>>155716370
watching cloth physics
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>>155716370
NG invasions.
Dried finger runs.
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>>155716309
I loved the Gherman fight. Anyone else imagine the MGS3 theme playing while fighting him in the field of flowers?
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>>155716457
tell me
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>>155716457
DeS had the most ways of fucking with people.
DS1 backstabs are non-issue unless you're a skilless retard.
DS3 invasions and dried finger runs are fun as fuck.
Sorry, steaming pile of shit that is DS2 is the only game with no fun in pvp at all.
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>>155714267
The dogs have their ups and downs for me. In DS1 they always fuck me in the depths because of the bleed and the fact that there are always shitloads of them. In DS3 the early bone dogs aren't too bad and I honestly don't mind the Sulyvahn's beasts too much but the brown ones with skin near the invisible niggers drive me insane. Especially because the camera can't keep up with them half the time
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>>155716470

NG invasions are a meme, you get ganked like in any other bracket. They always were a meme anyway, people that jus want to PvE are offline or hollow/unembered.
And I don't see how it's fun to have lagging phantoms keep you from progressing in the game
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>>155716535
>DeS
Fucking how?
>DaS1
Understandable.
>DaS3
Agreeable.
>DaS2
You sound like a whiny kid. Outside of having to farm for redeye orbs or blueeye, pvp was still fun.
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>>155716397
Use Executioner's Greatsword.
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>>155716705
>NG invasions are a meme
Now start speaking like a normal person and not a degenerate and maybe i will actually read your post.
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>>155716397
are you daft?

The "Greatsword" in DaS1 is literally the same thing it is in DaS3, only, the DaS1 model is literally squashed and scaled funny, if you look at it, the circle part on the hilt is an Oval in DaS1. It always should have looked more like gut's sword.
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>>155716535
>being this fucking delusional

Christ, now I'm not sure if you're actually b8ing or if you're legitimately this retarded.

>DeS had the most ways of fucking with people
>forgetting that it was literally endless PvP and was more of a nuisance than fun for either party

>DS1 backstabs are non-issue unless you're a skilless retard
>backstabbing was a vital and essential part of winning an invasion simply due to the fact of how much damage it does and how easy it is
>forgetting about the worst netcode in any Soulsborne game

>DaS3 invasions and dried finger runs are fun as fuck.
>implying the game has any replayability after you finish the first NG
>invasions are just a gank fest 9 times out of 10 invasions
>can't punish panic rolling
>can't punish estus chugging
>only 4-6 viable options of weapon if you want to win the game
>magic is useless
>fast weapons > slow heavy hitters

lol
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>>155716397
Nice expose neck, loser.
Nice armor, haha.
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>>155716726
>Outside of having to farm for redeye orbs or blueeye, pvp was still fun.

>soul memory creating an entire fuckload of balance problems, past 3-4m SM you start exclusively invading havelmonsters with 50+ in each stat

>finite orbs you need to farm or increase your sm, insane amount of forced farming in general if you want to stay in specific SM ranges

>agape ring being a late and half-assed solution that failed to solve virtually any actual soul memory problems

>cannot use any switches, open 90% of doors or operate 90% of elevators

>cannot phase through any enemies effectively locking you out of parts of the levels

>cannot heal with consumables while host has 10 types of them 9 of which go to 99 stack

>seeds, which also mean you can't even heal with miracles in peace by running to enemies

>host and his butt buddies are able to turtle in warmth which is even harder to punish than estus in ds3

>even if host dies he won't lose his souls because 90% of playerbase is rocking ring of sacrifice you can repair

>insanely short invasion time limit

>abundance of shit invasion spots, some of them can potentially lock you out of reaching the host permanently

>host can clear the area from enemies permanently so you end up losing the only invader advantage completely

>there IS a priority system which makes hollow hosts least preferable targets and coop partners the most

>you can be damaged during backstab animation

>npc phantoms with 5k hp and infinite spells everywhere in sotfs

>almost no chance of ever being summoned as a bluefag because host needs to dedicate a ring slot for something that won't occur in vast majority of situations as getting randomly invaded in ds2 is almost impossible

>insane amount of duelfag pandering at expense of everyone else, with arena being the worst offender

>abundance of baby-mode items like jester top pummeling already low skill ceiling even lower
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I've gone into NG+ with only one character. he's my first and he'll also be the first one to go to all of the dlc's

my 9 other characters at staying at level 100. i'll have all of them do both dlc's before they go to NG+. they'll stay at 100 for their last runs, dlc included
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>>155716784
doesn't have the same moveset
>>155716746
and yeah i have it too pretty cool thing
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>>155716815
you're also forgetting one essential part

N O P O I S E
O

P
O
I
S
E
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>>155716815
>and was more of a nuisance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSsXmI9x7Jo
It was fun.
>worst netcode
DS1 actually has the best netcode of all souls games.

Won't even comment about what you said about DS3 because it's just a generic shitposting of someone who dropped it after 50 hours.
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>>155716835
How about posting actual problems instead of posting pasta?
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>>155716921
>DS1 actually has the best netcode of all souls games.
>I didn't play DaS1 PvP: The post
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>>155716921

>Das1

>best netcide

thanks for the laugh
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>>155715321
no one?
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>>155716819
not even the biggest problem
>armor bends like its made out of rubber
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>>155716997
>>155716975
Better than every other game.
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What's some good light armor options for a vicar build? I don't want to pump too much into vit and my weapon is incredibly heavy.
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>>155717128
Pale shade is almost the 'poster' armour for Vicars
Maybe some Deacon stuff if you're looking for robes
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>>155717128
anything golden or white is good
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>tfw BBG just died at 12 posts.

I think we have to merge guys.
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Anyone on PC got a spare Cathedral Knight Chestpiece?
I've been farming these fuckers for 45 minutes now and the goddamn thing just wont drop
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>>155716921
>Won't even comment about what you said about DS3 because it's just a generic shitposting of someone who dropped it after 50 hours.
>truthful statements are now shitposting

Fuck off back to your safespace website you reddit underage fuck.
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>>155717280
Holy fuck i forgot how cute togepi was
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>>155717197
>>155717231
Looking for something more feminine
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>>155717280
No fucking way, it's better to stay dead than in this shithole.
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>>155717286
What SL?

Also just use CE
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>>155716846
>Dark Soul III
>SOUL
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>>155717280
What's the point? Nobody is talking about bloodborne, bringing it here wont make bloodborne discussion more active, it will just cause more arguments and "LOL PKEK"
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>>155717380
Pops didnt raise no cheater
>SL
Passwords are a great thing nowadays
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>>155717280
No. It's not a souls game.

It literally doesn't have souls in its title.

It'd literally like if someone wanted to merge a different dead game like nioh into this thread and call it nioh souls. Taking half of the thread name even though no one plays it and it's not even a souls game.
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I think im about to make havel mom cosplay in dks3.
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>>155717503
No you're not
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>>155717490

How can a game that isn't released be dead?
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>undercover invader in high wall
>untrue white ring, +2 spear, patches cosplay, helping new players deal with twinking shitters by being a twinking shitter myself
>nigger in rosaria's fingers invades
>sees the host has phantoms, runs away
>chase ensues, I stay on his ass all the way from the first ladder to the winged knight getting in small pokes and swings because he refuses to fight and there's no way to punish that
>fucking black crystals out at the winged knight
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>>155717467
Christ I forgot that was now a thing in DaS3

dsg as pass go to the bonfire with all the chairs and shit inside that church

Vicar Lydia is the name
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>>155717546
Probably not considering fishing with big weapons in this game is hard to execute.
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>>155717585
>how can someone just arriving to the hospital be dead before th3 doctors even see them
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>>155717618
If you really want you can try using a perseverance hammer with rapier. Use perseverance and change to rapier for the backstab.
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>>155717617
>cathedral knight greatsword

lothric knight is infinitely superior, it has the poke rolling attack while cathedral knight has the shit no range spin
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>>155717490
Neither is King's Field, but it's in the OP along with BB.
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>>155717617
Post your armor slut
>>
>No tired character stance when you are on low health in 3, like in 2
Miyazaki truly did his best to ignore the things 2 did right to add his own fuckups instead
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>>155717617
Thanks in advance m8, will you drop a red sign or should i drop one?
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What stupid asshole at FromSoft thought Farron Keep was a good idea?
EVERYWHERE LOOKS THE SAME, I JUST WENT IN A GIANT CIRCLE 3 TIMES
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Convince me not to use a zweihander
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>>155717724
BB has its own thread and should stay there
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>>155717756
I'm waiting anon
>>
About to make a VoS co-op character to bully the fire witches and Aldrich.

What SL/weaponlevel for the area before/after pontiff? SL50 +6?

Any good weapon ideas? I think the Pontiff Knighs are both weak to fire so maybe just a chaos/fire longsword or something? (whichever is better with no int and 30 faith)
>>
>>155717826
>those miracles
>that weapon
>that chime

why not use unfaltering prayer for a sunlight spear to the face? Why use tears of denial instead of a heal?
>>
>Invade in crucifixion wood
>Can't find the host
>Roll into every cross
>He used a white branch and I proceed to kill him

THOUGHT YOU COULD OUTWIT A ONION?
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>>155717810
Use it
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>>155717826
Thanks alot Vicar friend
>>
>finally get all the archivements

what a drag, especially the rings, miracles and gestures. now to wait for dlc.
>>
>>155717903
Play style, really. I have heals set in reserves but most of the time the host is the support role with the heals

Just stuck with the chime anyway
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>>155717280
>he's not kidding
so the time has come...
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>>155717280
why don't the people who want to discuss nioh and spam webms here go there?
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>>155710036
>save and will use regardless
Thanks anon.
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>>155718017
*cringes*
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post vicars drenched in badshade blood
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>>155717503
there https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/85526
alternatively https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/85528
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>>155718017
>not just CE-ing all the rings

i can't imagine what a pain it would be to get all of them legitimately
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>>155718631
I don't think you get the achievement that way
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>>155718579
Good job anon, not bad

>>155718631
Its not that bad outside of Darkmoon&Wolf+0
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>>155718550
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>>155718631
>cheating for achievements
>>
>>155718631

It's not that bad. Honestly it was the only reason I kept playing at first because the PvP just disgusted me
Still does and yet I'm still here
>>
>>155715361
>soothing sunlight with talisman poise weapon art cast
I thought that doesn't work on anything but offensive miracles?
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>>155717381
It's the Jp name, anon...
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On a scale of terrible to absolutely terrible, how bad's the lifehunt scythe miracle?
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>>155718826
"Well just fucking kill me then"-tier
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>>155718826

Abysolutely and deeply abysmal
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>>155717810
Cloud sword is better
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>>155718918
But Zwei has pokes anon
Also its rolling is better
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>>155717826
I thought you were the vicar I remember seeing with 60 faith and 40 attunement.
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>>155718826
Complete dogshit
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>>155717810
giantdad uses it
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dark souls 3 is a fun game and I like it a lot
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>>155717814
>Not reading the post.

It doesn't anymore.
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>>155717802
If you follow the "most obvious path", it leads you to all of the flames naturally. The loot is there to distract you.
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>>155719609
If you want to talk about it then just go make a thread about and make your 12 post there
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Why does the lothric knight sword poke have 10 lightyears phantom range except when I use it
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i'm nearly there

this axe will keep killing bloodshades until it finally breaks

then i'll repair it and kill some more

i just have to avoid going to a bonfire
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>>155719609
Dsg has discusses BB in the past so if you want to discuss BB it's fine just don't be a faggot or make a big deal about "merging".
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>>155719751
You mustn't stab at them. You must stab the air next to them
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>>155718826
It's nifty against large groups of stupid enemies since the healing is per hit, but it's too slow to use against people. Unless they're stupid people who don't know when to stop pressing R1, then you can just wind it up with UF and get an easy 500 damage.
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>>155719892
Can't repair powder something after it breaks, so be sure to use it right before.
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>>155719892
great taste
I wish it had the axe moveset like in DaS1 and 2 or better hyperarmor if it really has to be a glaive
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>badshades don't know divine blessings exist
lurking their discord is a wonderful experience
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>>155716467

More like clip physics. I wish From would never have tried that because it looks like absolute shit most oy the time.
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>>155720108
i'm not stopping until it BREAKS, so i'll have to take it to andre
i'm not pussying out
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>>155720224
I've only ever seen someone use a blessing one. Are they more common on P(CE)?
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>>155692408
The puddle is liquified human flesh and feces.
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hi /dsg/, I have a question
I'm missing only one trophy, the master of rings, do I need all the +1, +2, +3 versions of the rings to get it?
because fuck going to NG++ just for the life ring
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>>155720314
cheat engine
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>>155720314
I've never seen anybody use them.
I used my blessings a couple of times, but they actually were legit
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>>155720385
Yes.

Or get someone to drop them for you
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Just finished DaS3. Why do you shit on it so much, /dsg/? Sure, it's not as good as BB or DaS, but it's still a pretty solid game, and certainly better than DaS2.
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>>155720331
>same color and consistency as dung pies
>only the pools with giants look like shit
>giants always drop shit
I'm more wondering who's the scat fetishist at fromsoft.

>shit-covered ashes specifically for buying shit, in a sewer full of shit
>"Oh to savor the sweet pungency but once more..."
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>>155720385
going to ng++ probably takes less time than farming 30 earns for dorkmoon blade
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>>155720314
Yeah. The estus charges are way too low so tucking away blessings doesnt hurt anybody
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>>155720468
>certainly better than DaS2.
No. This meme needs to die
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r8 my bloodshade killing video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eibqJ755KJ4
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People who are doing that vicar thing... Do you *resummon*?
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>play on PC
>put down red soapstone sign
>get summoned
>spawn into host's world
>oh look, he's got two phantoms
>and they're all surrounding me as I spawn
>and they instakill me as soon as I finish spawning in
>and then they taunt
this is so fucking annoying. what's the best way to use CE to ruin these fuckers' day without getting myself softbanned? I don't normally have CE active but I'm seriously considering selectively turning it on whenever I see chucklefucks like this
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>>155717280
>>155718226
Sick general may you rest in peace, Umbasa.
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>>155720314
Blessings and Elizabeth Mushrooms were super common in pc Darkroot because CE and PS3 because of Mega Mule.

On PC you'll see more Siegbraus since they're more easy to obtain "legit" but a lot have just CE'd them in.
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>>155720541
>DaS2 is better than DaS3
No. This meme needs to die
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>>155720468
The PvP is unbalanced. Refined straight sword R1 spam, refined washing pole/katana running R1 spam, and refined Estoc poke spam make up 99% of what you fight.

>>155720494
>estus charges are way too low
>15 estus
>can only carry one DB and HB at any time

I don't see how. I can see Siegbraus since you can carry 10 at once and you can use them just like Estus, but you get fewer of those per playthrough than you do DBs.
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>>155720561
8/10

Rid the music or make it quieter
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>>155720468
Because it has no replayability. You have to do the same shit in the exact same order over and over wheareas in DaS1 and DaS2 you had a choice where to go.
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>>155720608
You can get 5 DBs per playthrough, though, and only 3 Siegbraus. If anything, you'd think CEing the Siegbraus would be more common since you can carry 10 and chug them.
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>>155720647
>PvP
I was mainly talking about PvE; I'm a pleb that plays offline.

So, DaS2 is still the pinnacle of DaS PvP?
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>>155720634
DaS2 is better than DaS3 though.

In nearly every way.
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>>155718719
>>155718550
>>155713769
>>155709173
>>155707560
>>155716313
>sneering mask is the canon armor for bloodshade hunters

Fucking lord my friendo and I were discussing making "Antishade ____" builds tonight with the sneering mask+dark set. We are simpatico, /dsg/
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>>155720561
>they all run off to chug
every time
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Everyone hypes up ds2s pvp and it was okay, but SM really ruined it and the pve is undefinable.
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>>155720469
Probably Miyazaki, since the poop was missing from DS2(unless you argue that the entire game was shit).

>Valley of defilement is basically an open sewer
>Dirty colossus is like a monster created out of grime and shit
>Dark Souls has Depths and shit statues, Dung Pies which you can feed to Frampt
>also giants that drop shit
>DS3 has pools of giant shit and excrement covered ashes
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>>155720751
Shut the fuck up you autist. The replayability is in three online pvp and coop. Not mindlessly grinding pve bosses
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>>155720689
but I like the music, although I should probably have made it quieter

>>155720823
use the exile set, it has high bleed resistance

>>155720870
doesnt matter anyway since you get a free hit in
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>>155720907
PVP and Co op pve ruined because of sm.
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>>155720751
You can always kill Emma and fist Dancer to death with a Dark Hand first, upgrade your weapon to +9 with all the chunks and shards in that area, vanquish Oceiros for the Path of the Dragon gesture and kill Gundyr for access to Coiled Sword Fragment to get a slab, then plow your way up to Irithyll Dungeon and hit Archdragon Peak.

>>155720775
>DaS2 is still the pinnacle of DaS PvP

>>155693179
>>155704636
>>155710451
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>>155720907
Undeniably, the SM did bring DaS2 PvP at a disadvantage, but it's certainly the best out of all Soulsborne games.

PvE is alright. I didn't have an issue with it.
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>>155720943
PvE is the bigger part of the games.
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>>155720584
ScottJund turned off hitbox, and he is fine. Do it on alt acc though.
https://youtu.be/0ZQoVkNksb4?t=2m36s
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>>155720634
it's not a meme, only the opinion of the 2 das2babbies who ruined this general
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>>155721067
>PvE is alright. I didn't have an issue with it.
It was shit. No atmosphere at all.
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Would anyone be willing to trade me the Untrue Dark Ring and Untrue White Ring?

I missed them on this playthrough with my witch character and I really need them for invasions. I would be very appreciative of anyone willing to drop the rings for me.

I'm SL 45 in front of Dancer's fog gate on PC.

Incidentally if you wanna help me kill dancer, that's cool too.
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Can someone drop the pale shade set for me? PC SL 170
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>>155721298
Forgot to mention:

The passowrd is "dsg".
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>>155721040
>cherrypicking
>meanwhile in DaS3..

>T-poses
>hovering\animation-less hosts and phantoms
>invisible phantoms
>every weapon in the game is unbalanced
>everyone is wearing the exact same gear
>magic is now useless as is some miracles
>can't punish panic rolls
>can't punish estus chugging
>backstabbing is now rare if ever
>parrying is now much easier
>netcode itself is pretty trash
>invasions are always gank squads
>NO POISE
>heavy armour is useless
>slow weapons are now out of the question as fast are now the easy go to
>no blue eye orb
>darkmoons and blue sents are the exact same thing and they don't even work
>can't duel wield two of the same weapons

Good things about the game
>it's got okay Coop
>it references DaS1 and DaS2 out the whazoo which is nice
>it will probably be the last Dark Souls game so Miyazaki can't butcher the game series anymore
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>>155721298
Yeah i got spare rings, i'll drop my white just outside the fog then
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>>155710782
I don't know if I'd call 1 the best, but things like jabstabs weren't due to bad latency, and while they were aided by bad netcode, they didn't really require it. It was more a matter of absurdly fucking huge hitboxes and no delay on backstabbing etc. You could pull of ridiculous backstabs on mob, and anything that's insta is bound to look like bullshit from time to time online; if I've got something that takes 100 frames to perform, and it comes to me one or two frames late, it'll more or less look the same, but if I've got something that takes one frame to perform, that same amount of delay is going to look absurd. Then there's stuff like BS escapes too, but that's just a matter of bad design in general since it could be preformed routinely. The lag in 2 was just a bunch of random "hey, I'm gonna hit you from across the map because why the fuck not?!" bullshit.
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>>155710451
based estoc turtle telling it how it is
literally the worst netcode I've ever experienced
accounting for big backstab window >>> accounting for constant huge phantom range
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>>155721402
man how long has it been since you played the game

this some stale pasta
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>>155720561
>barely 5 minutes of cherrypicked wins
>all 1v1s
>against invaders who are dumb enough to duel with no heals when the host has a health advantage
Is this supposed to be impressive? Show me an hour straight of unedited footage or fuck off

Also
>complaining about ''ganking hosts''
No such thing, you know what you're up for when you ember in the designated ganking area

>>155720870
It's an invasion, dumb honorfag
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>>155720931
>since the poop was missing from DS2
the anus faced giants?
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>the same inbred fucktards shitposting about the most recent souls game with the same stale copypastas
I really want this place to have poster IDs at this point.
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>>155721519
I play it regularly and have been participating in the Vicar event also to try and bring my faith back into the game.

>every list of greentext is now pasta
>being truthful is now pasta
Okay, champ. Continue to bury your head in the sand. Sooner or later, you're going to ahve to come to terms that you've wasted $50 on a trash game.

Fingers crossed they remake DaS3 like they did with DaS2 into SotFS
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>can make super thicc cuties in DS1
>all girls in DS3 have to have a certain armor to look thicc but are thin as country ham otherwise
I HATE THIS
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>>155720563
Hey.
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>>155721568
>an hour straight of unedited footage

I barely played for an hour, and I'm not uploading an hour long video, that would take centuries
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>>155721632
Uh you can be thick in DaS3 though? I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>155721446
Thanks so much dude.

Good fight too.
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>>155721621
>>>/reddit/

That there's a safe space website. I'm sure they'll accept you with open arms in their dark souls subboard.
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>>155721708
No problem pal, glad to be of help
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>>155720561
Music seems familiar but sucks for ds pvp.
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FUCK NO MAN'S WHARF
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>>155721694
No you can't
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>>155721718
It's pretty cute when those shitposters are mentioning reddit in this post because they are literally citing the same whiny, generic complains about the game as typical ds2 ledditors.
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>>155721773
what would you suggest
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>>155721807
The sliders aren't good enough?
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>>155720385
Ps4?
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>>155721087
This is not zelda
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>>155721814
>citing the same whiny, generic complains about the game as typical ds2 ledditors.

Not him, but correct me if I'm wrong. Ledditors are more pro DaS1 and DaS3 and shit on DaS2 more than /dsg/ does, no? This is a pretty shit argument.
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>>155721786
Tfw no aggressive flexile dragon slayer boss in ds3
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>>155721786
I feel your pain.
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>>155721568
>complaining about ganking while fingered
I'm surprised he even edited in so many failed parries
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>>155721402
>3 webms of a common problem are cherrypicking

>haven't seen a T-pose since three patches ago
>invisible phantoms are tied to brown people connection
>straight swords and katanas are the only unbalanced weapons
>more armor variety than DaS2 because armor barely matters
>pyromancy is as good in pvp as its ever been, sorcery and miracles are as shit as they've ever been
>could never punish estus chugging in 2, especially after the backstab damage nerf
>backstabbing should never have been common to begin with
>parrying is harder than its ever been
>netcode is better than DaS2
>poise has been found and known for two months now
>twin weapons are a better system than powerstancing ever was

But okay, keep on burying your head in the sand and smother yourself in nostalgia while the rest of us continue playing good games.
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>>155722003
>why did you cherrypick kills
>why didn't you

lol
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>>155721957
>Ledditors are more pro DaS1 and DaS3 and shit on DaS2 more than /dsg/ does, no
DS2 brought a shitton of newfags into the game and some of the largest DS3 e-celebs regularly posting on leddit started the series with DS2. All their generic, whiny complains are absolutely the same as the ones constantly spammed in these threads.
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>>155721957
He specified DS2 redditors, so I'm going to assume he wasn't talking about the ones who liked DaS1 and DaS3.
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>>155722004
>could never punish estus chugging in 2
>parrying is harder than its ever been
>poise has been found
How to detect a bait post in 3 easy steps!
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>>155721402
>T-poses
>hovering\animation-less hosts and phantoms
>invisible phantoms
They at least tend to show up in the right position, and they're really not all that common

>every weapon in the game is unbalanced
I don't even think that's conceptually possible

>magic is now useless as is some miracles
better it be useless than have it as it was in 1 and 2 where you'd just try and peg people with your zimbabwe beam

>can't punish panic rolls
you can rollpunish if they aren't too far away from you and you actualy have enough endurance to sprint

>can't punish estus chugging
CBV etc, though I suppose that requires a fair bit of investment

>backstabbing is now rare if ever
use it to punish people who parry or learn to shieldstab. Plenty of things can be punished, see webm related.

>parrying is now much easier
backstab them or kick to R1. Be thankful we don't have backstep parrying which puts you too far away to do that/lets you opt not to parry if you see someone attempt to punish one.

>NO POISE
best poise actually. It comes back quickly after being lost to allow frequent use of hyperarmor while simultaneously not allowing people to poisetank.

>slow weapons are now out of the question as fast are now the easy go to
As if that weren't the case in 2? Slow weapons in 3 at least always get all of their hyperarmor back after 30 seconds, unlike in 2 where it could take 5 minutes to regenerate your poise at 0.56 poise per second.

>can't duel wield two of the same weapons
Isn't that what paired weapons are? I guess you can't dual wield ANY set of duplicate weapons, but you can dual wield some by that metric.

>no blue eye orb
>darkmoons and blue sents are the exact same thing and they don't even work
These are valid complaints. If they were going to make two covenants, they could have at least given one the ability to blue-eye invade. It would have made more sense for the bad end of Sirrus's plot, they could have had her invade you where Creighton usually does.
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>>155722003
didn't see, where did I fail the parries apart from against the scythe guy where I got hit by the deacon

>complaining about ganking while fingered

The bloodshades claim to be anti-gankers, obviously I knew what I was getting into, but they claim to be anti ganking covenant while also ganking everybody
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>>155721786
just run through. Takes like 3 minutes + 1 minute for the boss
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>invaded
>all the invader does is spam roll and heal

Do people actually enjoy this playstyle?
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>>155721957
lolno, all the das2lovers are on leddit
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>>155720561
the music doesn't really fit imo but it's part of the soundtrack of my favorite game of all time, 8.5/10
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>>155722119
Poise is hyperarmor you literally illiterate literal nigger.
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>>155722004
actually sorceries are really this time around good simply because there's fast spells that are nearly guaranteed to hit people
and faith would be good if it had at least one fast-casting combat miracle which is already more than i can say about ds2 casting system in its entirety which was a big, disappointing, overnerfed clusterfuck
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>>155722186
yeah I love that game
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>>155722004
>could never punish estus chugging in 2
hello my fellow redditor
>>
>Half of the invasions are ruined by connection based glitches
>Previous souls games are dead
Where do I get my souls pvp fix now?
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>>155722205
No its not
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>>155721642
HEY!
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>>155722154
>but they claim to be anti ganking covenant while also ganking everybody
Hosts have a 30% health bonus, more than twice the invader's estus, can have 3 summons, can have blue autosummons, can infinitely resummon, can put the PvE against you, can instantly cross the boss fog gate, and on top of all that you never know if the host you invaded was just ganking, or if he's gonna start ganking you, or if he's already summoning someone
So there's no such thing as ganking a host, don't expect invaders, who have a health penalty remember, to 1v1 you in the designated ganking area
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>>155722229
U dumb
Ds2 magic was the most op in the series
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>>155722205
No it fucking isn't you absolute autist
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>>155722229
DaS2 casting was "good" only because rolls were so bad you had to perfectly time them to dodge spells, and every school had at least one spell that could 2-3 shot someone and spammed faster than you could spam rolls. The spells themselves weren't any better than 3's are.

>>155722301
>r-reddit!
Learn to counterargument, ingrate.

>>155722356
Want me to link the reddit post that proves it using full-on video evidence while giving enough instructions to replicate the tests by yourself so you can double-check?

protip, if you say no you can stop trying to argue your point now.
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>>155722127
Chugging can easily be punished by crossbows or any weapons with good fast attacks. If you're close enough you can even pull off a pivot stab.
It's a fucking 600 HP per flask and it doesn't stack like it did in DS2, continuing to heal you even if you get damaged.
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>>155722516
show me how the slowest heal in the series is unpunishable first, redditor
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>>155722541
>backstabs do more damage than estus chugs
noice
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>>155722463
maybe prenerf and when people didn't know how elemental defenses worked...
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>>155722340
Return to Lordran starts on October 4th.
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>>155722516
U dumb as fuck.

Wear all the poise you can in this game and use a dagger then let me know how much hyper armor you have
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>>155722443
So you just assume that the host had 2 phantoms and is resummoning them? The fact that I was fighting one guy, 1 v 1 should be an indication that this is in fact a 1 v 1. A ganker would run to resummon.

I wouldn't complain about a regular invader ganking me, after all they're just invading me. But when you claim to be part of an anti-ganking covenant, and then go and gank people, you're obviously doing something wrong.
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>>155722516
In DS2 thanks to how retarded small shields were you could literally block all spells that are not crystal soul spear, and that was slower than molasses. And that's on top of being able to stack a ridiculous elemental defense. Hell dodging through them was piss easy as well unless there was a heavy lag.
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>>155722226
I get them pretty rarely with a pass on. I think that's more because so few use Way of Blue though.
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>>155722541
>Chugging can easily be punished by crossbows or any weapons with good fast attacks
yeah but you're doing less than 600 damage, unlike CBV, so it's not actually a net loss for them. That's usually what people are getting at when they say punish.

>continuing to heal you even if you get damaged
yeah, but not if you get killed
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>>155722154
>People are hypocritical
get off it dude

if you finger, odds are you're gonna get ganked from SL30 to 150.
Bloodshade aren't any different from your average red invader
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>>155722516
>people claim no poise because the game genuinely lacks the poise mechanic from all previous games
>brings in a counter argument talking about how the poise is now a completely different mechanic.

It's still a good call to scream NO POISE. Because the game does lack the "Poise" from the previous three games. Making a new mechanic and naming it "poise" doesn't make it poise, faggot
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>>155722608
Stop bringing up elemental defense. It's such a stupid argument because a hex build could literally use every single elemental damage type.

Hell any caster build could literally use at least 2 to 3 schools of magic.

The only elemental defense that shut down casting was greater magic barrier as intended
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>>155722765
Well I wore the exile armor, the bloodbite ring and I was embered. I was prepared to get ganked. But that doesn't excuse the hypocrisy of the bloodshades
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>>155722779
t. never played the game
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>>155722623
bait if I ever saw it

use an ultra weapon without having any poise, watch what happens

>>155722767
It's poise. It works exactly as it did in 2, only it's disabled while you aren't in a hyperarmor swing.
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>decide to use the lothric knight straight sword for my vicar, because it looks holy as fuck
>400 AR at +10 refined

jinkies, scoob

I was almost hoping, for this game's sake, that it wouldn't be that high
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>>155722779
>a hex build could literally use every single elemental damage type
and i can stack all elemental defenses at once
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP USING THAT ARGUMENT WAAAAAAAAH
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>>155722594
>r-reddit
I ain't even from reddit, retard.

Anyone who chugs estus twice will heal more than you can damage them with any attack. Anyone wearing a jester's chest, ironclad chest, or gower's ring can't even be backstabbed in the first place.

>>155722623
I took the time to type "hyperarmor", you can at least take the time to realize I typed 'hyperarmor". Daggers do not have hyperarmor and, frankly, they never should.

All instances of hyperarmor in DaS3 use your poise to determine how quickly you are broken out of it.
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>>155722684
What a fucking piece of trash game
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>>155722878
>It's poise. It works exactly as it did in 2, only it's disabled while you aren't in a hyperarmor swing.

Okay, dumbass. Go get a buddy, tell him to wield a dagger and you yourself wear full Havels. Then tell me if Poise exists in the game or not

Fucking idiot
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>>155722684
Go under firekeeper's skirt
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>>155722952
>Then tell me if Poise exists in the game or not
it does, gg
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>>155722938
The graphics aren't even that good
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>>155722938
I recognise that bulge?
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>>155722952
Just because people IRL tell you to fuck off for being unironically contrarian doesn't mean your shit is any less invalid here.
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>>155722779
>builds
>dark souls 2
yeah, sure
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>>155722910
>punishing chuggers with backstabs
>letting them chug in the first place
you're not supposed to back off when you get them low, my fellow redditor. It's the slowest heal for a reason. and if they poise through it, try out stone ring with a greatweapon.
or just keep shitposting about how the most easily punished heal in the entire world is unpunishable
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>>155722878
>use an ultra weapon without having any poise, watch what happens

Poise and hyper armor are not the exact same thing.
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>>155723015
>I-IT DOES!!!
>Y-YOU CAN'T TELL ME OTHERWISE LALALALALALA

This is the average Miyazaki apologist and dick sucker
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>>155723114
b-b-b-b-but INTENDED!!!
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New thread?
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>>155723105
>r-reddit, guys!
And with that, we're done.
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>>155722639
Christ, I addressed all that shit in previous post, I'm repeating myself at this point
There's no way to know if a host is solo, the vast majority aren't and even if you feel like they're trying to fight invaders by themselves you're still at a health disadvantage so I'd be dumb to honor duel them

There's no such thing as ganking hosts
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>>155722205
>Poise is hyperarmor
>>155722910
>I took the time to type "hyperarmor",

It was meant for this retard. If you are the same retard then you are a retard.

Poise is not hyper armor
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>>155723203
let this shit general die
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>>155723114
>Poise and hyper armor are not the exact same thing.
Hyperarmor is a poise multiplier

If there were no poise, there would be no hyperarmor

There is hyperarmor

Thus, there is poise, which is activated during hyperarmor frames

>>155723123
go back to your sub-DS1 population game Tanimura
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>>155723231
>tell you how to punish chuggers
>haha you said reddit again so I win
3 is less punishable than 2 ever was
neck yourself
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>>155723114
>>155723276
>Poise and hyper armor are not the exact same thing
Hyperarmor literally is poise in DaS3. The so-called "unused poise variable" that's "switched off" turns on during hyperarmor frames, they behave in the exact same way, and they both refer to each other in the code. Check for yourself, idiot.
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>>155723123
nobody is saying it's useful, but it exists and does something
it's basically as bad as das2 poise but at least the non poise enhanced hyper armor is better in das3
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>>155722861
>caring what reddit/twitch does or thinks
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>>155723272
>>155722861

probably because you ignored my last post and replied to my 2nd to last post
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>>155723303
>There is hyperarmor
>Thus, there is poise, which is activated during hyperarmor frames

Are you a fucking retard? Someone said poise is hyperarmor armor.

I say they are not the same thing. Then you say well one works off the other so since one exist the other exist.

That literally means they are not the same thing.

You probably think humans can safely breath air too?
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>>155723493
Are you incapable of basic reasoning? In DaS2, if you have zero poise you have zero hyperarmor. DaS2 hyperarmor just gave you 50% more poise while active. 0 x 1.5 is still 0.

Hyperarmor is the wrong word anyways. Hyperarmor refers to fully uninterruptible attacks, which haven't been in the series since DeS. Superarmor refers to attacks that take multiple hits to interrupt, and poise has only ever been an overly complicated superarmor system in all Dark Souls games.
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>>155723490
What hipocrisy? Doing their objective? There's no such thing as ganking a host as I said >155722443
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>>155723272
Also, why are you ignoring the bloodshade hypocrisy? Surely you must acknowledge that the bloodshades are ganking when they claim to be anti-gankers?
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>>155723493
>Are you a fucking retard? Someone said poise is hyperarmor armor.
Well he's responding to my post, >>155722878 which said specifically

>It's poise. It works exactly as it did in 2, only it's disabled while you aren't in a hyperarmor swing.

Poise is in the game. It's the same poise as in DS2, it's just only active during HA and regenerates faster.
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>>155723663
Yes, there is no such thing as ganking a host, the same way there's no such thing as facts and logic because it's a CIS white male invention to get ahead in the world

Most people would refer to ganking as fighting a solo player as 2/3/4 so why is it that when bloodshades fight a solo player as 2/3/4, it's magically not ganking, but when a bloodshade gets ganked, it's ganking and it's awful. The host having more HP has absolutely nothing to do with it, as long as you dont summon phantoms you are solo, and therefore you can be ganked
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>>155723663
oops >>155722443

>>155723667
I already addressed it here >>155722443
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>>155722863
>>155722893
>>155723074

One day I'll play through dark souls 2 again and make another caster build and record some fights.

Just because you couldn't figure out how to make it work doesn't mean it can't work.
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>>155723814
No you didn't. "Hosts have more advantages" has literally nothing to do with ganking, unless your definition of ganking is "fighting somebody when you have lots of advantages"
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>>155723814
Nobody's saying hosts don't have a ridiculously huge advantage against invaders, but the literal definition of 'gank' is more than one person ganging up on one person. 2v1 still has the advantage against +30% hp and double estus.
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>>155723642
>and poise has only ever been an overly complicated superarmor system in all Dark Souls games
no, it was pretty simple in DaS1 once we figured it out, that's why people built their characters around it
even after figuring das2's poise system out people still didn't care about it because it was so convoluted and full of weird exceptions
das3's poise is simplier, just not worth the stat investments
>>
Was the tumble/gesture buffing patch sometime in last few months or It's just I suck and can't pull it off?
I'm able to switch weapon to another buffable, but if I switch to something unbuffable I just do a headscratch.
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>>155723771
The co-opers objective is to escort the host through the PvE and to help kill the boss
The invader's obective is to kill the host

Hosts who just sit around with friendly phantoms specifically to kill invaders are gankers, that's the agreed upon definition in the community

PvEers aren't gankers
Invaders aren't gankers

Hosts have literally everything on their side, there's no such thing as ganking a host
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Ok guys, lets see.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11300086
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>>155723982
So give me the poise for dummies explanation - higher poise means my hyperarmor can outrade other hyperarmor and also allows me to regenerate hyperarmor quicker right?
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>>155723982
It still cracks me up that people thought the 2HR1 zweihander breakpoint was 77 for five whole months before someone thought to check it, just because 77 is how much poise giantmask gave you.

DaS3's poise system is better against large numbers of people, just because even with 0.1 poise it can still take 2-3 hits to stagger HA attacks. Adding more poise on top of that just makes it ridiculous.
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>>155724151
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11300086
in before the number of votes exceeds the number of posters
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>>155724241
>what are lurkers
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>>155722712
I can confirm now, they autosummon even if pass is on
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>>155724151
Voted DS1.
Impeccable atmosphere, great overworld, good balance in everything.
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>>155724163
which game?
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>>155724151
>vote demon's souls
>vote comes up as dark souls
You sly fucker.

>>155724163
Simple in execution, complicated in explanation.

DaS3 poise - you have an invisible meter of 100. When it gets to 0, you stagger whether or not you're in hyperarmor. Weapons have anywhere from 5 to 30 stagger damage, + or - for attack modifiers. Poise reduces incoming stagger damage by the given percentage. Poise damage is calculated at all times regardless if you're in hyperarmor or not. The meter automatically refreshes back to 100 every 30 seconds or after hitting 0.
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>>155724087
Yes. Hosts have everything on their side, but the definition of gank is to gang up on somebody. Even if a host had 900000000% more HP than every invader, if its two invaders vs one host, its two people ganging up on one person, so it's a gank. Doesn't mean that the host isn't at an advantage, but it's still a gank.

>Hosts who just sit around with friendly phantoms specifically to kill invaders are gankers, that's the agreed upon definition in the community

Ok, so your definition is different from literally everybody else, thanks for clarifying that in your very first post.
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>>155724163
>regenerate hyperarmor quicker right
In 3?

depends on what you mean by "quicker". Unlike in 2, it always takes the same amount of time to regenerate all your poise. It's 30 seconds of not getting hit regardless of how much poise you have. Technically speaking though, if you have more poise, that means you'll have regenerated more poise per second, so even though you don't get it back earlier you could technically call it "faster".
>>
New thread?
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>>155724241
>lurkers
>12h old thread
I'm simply not gonna vote because I don't care and only shitposting will come out of this
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>>155724151
________Bloodborne
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>>155724439
let this shit general die
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>>155724151
>nostalgiafags who haven't played das1 recently
heh
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>>155724365
No, that's not the agreed upon definition in the community, stay delusional

>>155723865
>>155723914
You're all delusional

No such thing as ganking a host
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>>155724163
it's simple

ds2 poise;

your poise = poiseFromStatsAndArmor * Hyperarmor, where hyperarmor=1 while not in hyperarmor and 1.5 while in hyperarmor

ds3 poise is the same but hyperarmor=0 while not in hyperarmor and presumebaly 1 while in hyperarmor (though it could be 1.5 for all I know).

in 2 you regenerate poise at 0.56 poise per second and get a refresh when you're staggered

in 3 you get a refresh when you're staggered and a refresh after 30 seconds
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>>155724528
I started new playthrough yesterday.
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>>155724363
>Poise reduces incoming stagger damage by the given percentage
Forgot something, different HA attacks have different poise modifiers. Ultra greatswords have x1 multiplier (no difference). Greatsword 2H attacks and halberd 2H attacks have x1.5 poise modifier (50% increased poise). Curved greatswords have 0.75 modifier IIRC (you actually take more poise damage during their hyperarmor). Rolls have 0.25 modifier (take x4 poise damage during a roll).
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>>155724151
I enjoy all the souls games i played(1/2/3) equally for different reasons
>>
where the fuck is the new thread at
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>>155724151
>people ACTUALLY and UNIRONICALLY think DaS3 is the best souls game

wew
>>
>BKGA 1H R1
>HA starts so late opponent can reaction 1H R1 with a SS and stun me
Nice
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>>155724798
let this shit general die
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>>155724887
>people unironically think das2 is the best souls game

looks like there are lots of people with shit taste
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>>155724951
>>155724951
>>155724951

New thread

>>155724951
>>155724951
>>155724951
>>
>>155724954

>>155724954

>>155724954
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>>155724901
>HA starts so late opponent can reaction 1H R1 with a SS and stun me
literally every ultra except for offhand greataxes
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>>155724973
>>155724974
Same shit different thread, never change /dsg/
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>>155724973
>>155724974
Alright, we got it down to two threads this time instead of three
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>>155724973
>>155724974
Can /dsg/ do anything right?
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New thread
>>155725061
>>155725061
>>155725061
>>155725061
>>155725061
>>155725061
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>>155724548
no, you are the delusional one
you're like the people who say that blacks can't be racist
it doesn't fucking matter that host has some advantages, he still can be outnumbered and that's the only fucking thing that's needed to make something a gank
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>>155725065
>>155725109
I stand corrected
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>>155725091
>>155725109
no
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>>155724363
Could this be a reason, why great machetes can't combo 2h?
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>>155693179
>those animations

Man, DaS2 had it rough.
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>>155725457
Yes it could. I don't think anyone is sure, because I haven't seen people with high poise being combo'd by it. Isn't it good that it can break poise in one hit though, when going against hyper armor weapons?
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