/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

Fuck off Beadman

>>155266319
Then don't humor him.

This goes for everyone else too.

>>155266361
I'm just more surprised than annoyed, really

>>155266253
Why is smt IV A so god damn short? My first playthrough of IV was probably twice as long

Also someone please tell me theres tunna be a dlc that will let you level up past 99 or dropped

>>155266474
There is DLC that let's you go way past level 99.

>>155266474
SMT4 was about twice as long as it needed to be.

>>155266474
IV is actually just as short. The improved world map and not having to check the associations for challenge quests makes the game progress faster

>>155266746
I just dunno if theres enough replay value for me to go for another run. Im gunna take my time and do all the side quests this time since i ignored them, and in really glad to hear theres level dlc, being capped at 99 really sucked in IV

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I want to kill pascal

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>>155266923

>>155266905
Is there places to grind incenses? Ive never earned one from a battle

>>155266989
>Is there places to grind incenses?
D L C
L
C

>>155266989
ONLY

$2.49
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when does the miiverse community open?

>>155267189
Should open in about an hour.

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>>155266474
Yes.

>>155266923
He looks too evil.

>>155267285
Cant wait to have level 999 full party on apocalypse difficulty

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>>155267263
excellent

>"A woman's hysteria is frightening" translated as "She's mad hide"
AYYY dank menes

>>155267285
Do you get fewer stat points when you get to crazy high levels?
At 5 points per level shouldn't you be at 999 in every stat by level 999?

>>155267690
Well, this build is at level 774.

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>>155267687
>Praise the sun showed up
Fucking Atlus

Do you guys think the sales of IV:A will be as good as IV?

Is the DLC in final day one for English as well or is going to be put out later on

I'm fucking brain dead. What are you supposed to do on the maze garden?

>the add-on content could not be recognized

???

Anyone else thought the battle with Sukuna-Hikona was really... forced? Asahi even asks him what is he talking about when he says unsealing the ark would be terrible. But he just gives some vague speech about evil and attacks you just because. Would it be so hard to explain that there is this evil Krishna dude that plans to destroy the world? That entire battle just felt really unnecessary.

>>155270764
He does mention he's keeping guard of a dangerous foreign deity but you don't give a crap because Muh hunter cred and Muh kibou no hikari

>>155267263
you lied ;_;

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>>155267690
After level 99, you get 2 stat points to distribute per level up with no app point bonus.

Also my Alice got Light Pierce which isn't what I wanted for her, but it'd great for other demons.

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So how long is SMT4 supposed to be, I'm level 65, just got back from Mikado. I've spent almost 30 hours here already, I need to stop but it's too good

And when's the earliest I can get Riot Gun, Luster Candy and Debilitate?

>Messiah Blast
They couldn't come up with a better name?

>>155270764

Japanese deities are useless in smt

>Amaterasu is constantly sealed or brainwashed.
>That one faggot in IV who just goes YOU HUMANS DESTROYED AKIBAHARA I'M GONNA LASH OUT AT EVERYONE LIKE AN AUTIST EVEN THOUGH THE ASHURA-KAI ARE AT FAULT.
>The JDD are slaved by the ashura-kai
>Masakado traps everyone with a bunch of demons. In vanilla IV he destroys Mikado, the only place on earth healthy and without demons.
>the Goddess of Tokyo is just a plot device
>they couldn't even win WW2

What a bunch of useless fuckers

>>155272530
i beat it around 40 hours

How do I kill second fight Shesa?

I have the stupid sword but I only do 150 damage attacking since Im a mage.

>>155272835
keep attacking him normally with nanashi, and have 2 or 3 demons on heal duty and make sure one of them blocks or repels phys and/or fire attacks

>>155272835
Have Gaston, one healer and debuff the fuck out of Shesa

>>155272814
With all the sidequests?

>>155272957
i didn't do any of them

>>155270549
Look at your shadow

>>155273051
Well shit

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>always felt is if SMT4 was a little incomplete because of the Tokyo side of the story never really being explored
>Apocalypse comes out to focus on that, it's fucking perfect
>good story pacing and just enough relief with Asahi, Navarre and Nozomi as a balance to the atmosphere
>deviantart half-demon fuccboi OC and 'lel I act like I cunt but I'm a good guy bet you didn't see that coming xD' join the party and slowly the game turns into another one of my Japanese animes

Why the fuck did they do this?
They had it fucking perfect until muh friendship started taking over everything
I almost want to side with Dagda out of spite

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Snes SMT games worth it?
Only ever played 4 but my save got wiped when I was around the Tokyo part where that red group female leader died or some shit(this was over a year ago) and i'm struggling to get back into it and now that Vita is hacked and SNES emulation on it is apparently great i have an urge to try them out

I assume the gameplay mechanics are dated by quite alot and its unforgiving but if i need to i can look up a guide or something. Mostly want a nice JRPG i can dig into during downtime

>>155273240
>not siding with dagda for your first playthrough

what u doin senpai

>>155274327
Not that guy, but how can I feel the true impact of killing all of my friends if I don't extensively befriend them in the first place?

>>155274327
>going for best end in the first round

???

Is there any way for someone outside of the usa to use the dds in apocalypse?

Running luma3ds and it always tells me to accept the user agreement which I cant do again, Ive tried the region emulation to no avail as well so Im fresh out of ideas

tfw when unironically feel like doing the bonds route to not betray my nakamas

>>155266253
am i able to make bobo have my god babby?

>>155276873
Yeah. I almost feel like unironically doing bonds not because I think its a more correct ending, but since I suspect its just going to be a much better ending. I love at the end of games when all the characters like up and each say a different line about their own reasons for being there. In massacre you get none of that. Like the reason endings in nocturne, its less about what you think would be good, and more about how halfassed some of it will be.

>>155276659
I have this problem too. Do you have a nnid linked on the console?

>>155273240
i feel you bro but you and me have to stick with this shit until the end. then on the next playthrough, be a complete fucking asshole.

>>155272530
>Luster Candy
Slepnir, Joan of Arc if you're determined.
>Debilitate
Alice, Rangda
>Riot Gun
Only Vishnu can learn it, who's at Lv 88. Unless you'd like to fight Chemtrail

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Wait, you could fuse angel twice?

Who else is sleeping in their car right now?

>>155277773
Frankly, this is the main reason why I tend to go neutral in most games. It's clearly what the game wants you to do. There is always a law hero and chaos hero, but no neutral hero, which is suppose to be you. The events of law and chaos routes don't require your presence, they can happen without you. Neutral routes also have you fight everyone, which means they have more content. Not to mention the usual atlus bias to make them seem like the "true ending".

>>155279749
anyone know if the eye symbol on angel's headband is from something? or is it just some design?

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>>155280193
It probably just represents the eye of providence. One eye = one objective universal standard and all that. ITs possible we're meant to read in a little of the one lady with the eye covering in courtrooms. "justice is blind" and all that. Because they see not with their eye, but judge via the absolute. But likely also presented as a criticism that subjecting yourself to an idea of the absolute can make you blind.

>>155280297
That's pretty cool, thanks anon

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>thought my choices would affect my route
>kept telling asahi to fuck off
>realise only one choice matters to lock me in anarchy
Sorry dog, at least you're a goddess now.

DLC .cia when?

>>155280428
>still referring to massacre as anarchy
>9/20

Anon, stop being cancerous. "Anarchy" is the early bad ending where you side with lucifer.

>>155280059
Even though neutral is depicted more positively in most games, I think most still are semi similar. In most games neutral is simply too boring. Law and chaos by giving more characters seem to have more of interest going on. Here its kind of the reverse though. They finally made a really interesting neutral ending. And the other ending is a bipolar clusterfuck that's all over the place.

>>155276659
>>155277961
After a bit of digging on /hbg/ I found this and it worked for me

>Error 003-0399, "You have not yet agreed to the Nintendo 3DS Service User Agreement"
Install and open config.cia (http://pastebin.com/UGRA349r), click on EULA Setting, change agree version to FF FF.

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>feel a twinge of pleasure when Dagda calls me "my Godslayer"

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>>155280510
I saw everyone using it, so i thought i might as well. Thanks for red pilling me

>>155281220
Anarchy and peace refer to chaos and law. What happened was people misinterpreted one picture that showed the chaos symbol by dagda and the law one by nozomi into those being the entire slants of the real endings. When in actuality what it was trying to show is that the two true endings have polarity as well. Neutral is balance. Dagda is a chaotic character yet his ending is more lawful. And nozomi is a more lawful character yet her ending is more chaotic. But atlus usa confirmed that the symbols refer to law and chaos or rather the polarities they represent in general. The true endings are just called bonds and massacre. But for awhile western fans called them peace and anarchy because of that one picture.

The Quetzalcoatl boss battle in Apocalypse reminded me of this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebxIwwhV5MA

FEW MORE HOURS BOYS

What difficulty should I play on?

>>155277196
Bobo is dead bro

Why hasn't ign or other high profile sites except for destructoid and gamespot given Apocalypse a review yet ?

Is the game really that good? I am worried its too similar to 4 and I've burned out of that game few months back

>>155282035

>not already playing
My Amazon shipment came a day early

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>Merka and Louie in one go with no break for heals in between

LITERALLY HOW

Am I underleveled? I'm 5 levels away from 75 for 8 skill slots

>>155282286
It's been way more fun than SMT4 for me

>start on Apocalypse difficulty
>actually die in the gay peacock demon fight
>Dagda revives you right there which immediately finishes the battle
Thank YHVH
Now I have used my meta demon negotiation skills to quickly snatch myself a Sudama and Caladrius.
Onwards to Caladrius grinding forever as the miss rate is far too retarded to tackle anything else without RNG getting in the way
If anything the normal compendium prices are a big blessing compared to War though, except now normal gear and items have 3x prices instead so good luck ever playing non mage

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>>155280937
A pity we were denied best Dagda

Do we have any English footage of YHVH yet? I want to hear the voice acting and I'm really surprised nobody's posted anything.

What should I build on nanashi? Is pure magic good in this game

>>155284324
any build is good, people have said that str has the best damage output during late game, can't confirm though

When are the DLC packs being released?

Gamestop really needs to get with the times. What kind of store opens at 10AM?? Most stores in the country open 24hours or at least open at 7am

>>155284621
>he's going to buy/pirate grinding dlc
Can you be any more of a failure of a Godslayer?

>>155284621
Probably when E-shop updates whenever that is.

>>155284735
No, I just want cosmetic and story DLC.

>>155284735
We've had this discussion on /smtg/ before. Their argument is that not everybody has a lot of time to play video games so they'd rather just steamroll to experience the story.

how much app do you get when connecting dds to internet?

>>155284795
Speaking of cosmetic, is there anywhere to farm for Armor Boost Kits? I want to use some armor but not be severely gimped for it.

>>155284795
Those will only come pretty late
the dates are on atlus site

>>155270764
Yeah, but he told him them not to believe the Allfather's lies. It's not Sukuna Hikona's fault that humans are retarded.

how did demi-fiend turn from a human into a demon

>>155285454
Lucifer cock

Is there a list of demons who are good or benevolent in Apocalypse?

>>155285659
there is only one benevolent demon and her name is pixie

>>155285876
I meant demons in the story who were, good but got unfairly attacked by Nanashi and co.

Any tips on how to beat Marici, Inanna and Maitreya in a row? I'm level 50, am I underleveled? Does Maitreya have any weaknesses?

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How do I fuse Kangiten?

>>155286334
gun and fire

>>155286085
>>155285659
>good
That's a spook, son.

>>155284909
Black Card shop sells them for a shit ton of macca.

Rev up that DLC.

>>155286394
Lvl 80 special fusion

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>You look worried
>I am
>Smart people are always worried, what's your problem?
>Worried about my future
>Yeah, that's a problem even for gods
>How about I join you and together we make your life shine?

Rangda, I..

>>155287124
Yeah, female demons are slightly nicer to you in this game. They'll even offer their breasts to you if the are spared.

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>I did it

>yfw

black card where?

>Check the app prices in IV
>you get barely enough for limit removal in 60 levels
why

>>155287689
Level 76.

>>155288393
Come on anon you don't even need the limit removal
+15 fusion levels costs a paltry sum for the retarded benefit it gives
There's also literally nothing worthwhile to get besides demon skills and fusion level boosters

>start game
>5 minutes later
>you die

Thanks

HOY

>>155287689
Wait for quest.

So Strength is relevant again? Should I level it or just ignore phsyical and use gun skill

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>Asahi's goggles clanking onto the ground

S-so how far away from the end of the game am I? Level 72, think I'll grind out a few sidequests for levels to 75 and blow all my points on skill expansions.

>>155290348
Do whatever you want. All builds are viable.

>>155290598
YHVH is level 100, you bet.

What are Marici, Inanna and Maitreya's weaknesses?

What do Armor Boost Kit do?

>>155291348
Raises the HP stat for armor along with 3mag + 3luck for helmets and 6Agi for pants. Torso Armor gets +30 HP, Helmet gets +15HP, Pants get +20 HP

>>155291551
Thanks. When can I get the Demonica armor? I'm gonna save these for that one.

Can I only use one on a piece of armor, or can I use several?

>>155290937
How should I grind money at this point, by the way? I want to save up for cool clothes.

>>155288427
i'm level 86
>>155290309
what quest and when do i get it? at the moment i'm at ichigaya fighting merkabah and lucifer

>>155292050
fundraise

>>155292108
>level 86 at that point

holy fuck I was level 69 at that point. Did you do all sidequests?

>>155290995
Inanna has no weaknesses and if you use Magic Mirror or Makakarn on her, she'll just spam Megidola. Neither does Marici. Maitreya on the other hand is weak to both Gun and Fire Skills. The key is to take him out before he uses an attack to nullify his weakness.

>>155292248
i've been questing and killing demons quite a lot. 40 hours clocked. war difficulty though. how about you?

>>155290995
that sequence was nasty

>>155292548
Conflict, 30 hours. Did all the sidequests up until around when poo in loo's dragon come around the second time.

>>155292628
Yeah, it took my a couple of tries to complete that. Felt like I didn't have to fight Inanna though.

>>155292050
Fundraise
Ginza/Daiba/Breakwater areas for relic hunting

>>155290260
>Start on Apocalypse difficulty
>5 minutes later
>you die
>on the very next battle after being revived
>you die again
At least Dagda just stops the battle there

>>155292860
good to know. i almost got my ass kicked on war

>>155292848
>Ginza
>Relic hunting
Where, how?

>>155292909
I honestly don't think it's possible to complete that battle on Apocalypse
Adramalech two shots you with his normal attacks, your miss chances are astronomical even on Centaur and one miss means you lose the entire round, not enough healing supplies as well. I'm glad Dagda just revives you and the battle immediately ends with the demon backing out from Dagda alphaness

Also now I have to resort to farming the dual Caladrius encounter since everything else is a pain because of the 1/3 or 1/4 miss chances.
And so is my HP since gear costs like 3x the price and I can't even buy the gay chinese dress

>>155293082
Adramelech is pretty bro and understands the rules of nature. He is one of the few based Chaos fags.

>>155292860
>Apocalypse difficulty
Why didn't I have this option?

>>155292746
alright alright.

question: does anyone know where i have to go on the "usurping magic" quest? it says something about futotama living in an imperial palace. is that where i have to go? where is this place even?

>>155293629
Google maps that shit.

>>155293620
It's DLC.

infinite power is such an annoying skill

>>155273240
He's not Deviantart. He is literally a Devil Children, who could go suoer saiyan and make a pentagram/inverted one appear if they were angels/demons.

Right down to the dead mommy like the originals

>>155293848
Imagine if Lucifer fucked your mom and then you meet him and he's a cute girl/dumb samurai

>>155293930
Hallelujah is Shemyaza's kid, and Shemyaza is so beta that even Inanna, Succubus, and Lilim won't put out for him.

>>155293620
DLC only coming next month
or if you are pirate master race there's a save at the very beginning that lets you play on Apocalypse if you seek suffering and despair

>>155294017
>Shemyaza
Are there any Soul Hackers references?

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>just the skill for god slayer

>>155294017
i don't know about beta but he sure is a fucking homo

>>155294172
Not sure. All that I know is that Shemyaza spends the game being beta Tayama. He even cockblocks Halleujah from getting laid by Succubus.

>tfw second playthrough
>fuck up some commas by compendium fusing every demon i missed

>>155294126
Is there any dlc coming out today?

I just hit 900 luck and every hit crits

>>155294953
It's good that Magic skills crit now too.

hey /smtg/.

I haven't played IV since it came out, but I remember that for a phys based mc, Str was basically useless and you pumped points into dex for a phys build. Has that changed in SMTIV:A?

>>155280818
Can you re-upload this? Pastebin is kill

>>155293046
From the left exit of Ginza, where the Black Card stores are.
A relic hunt there is worth 30-40 k, and Ginza opens up early, so you can stock up some serious cash.

>>155294852
DLC and release dates are on the official website.

>>155294375
He don't need no grandkids to take care of.

>>155295695
My bad, I didnt think to copy the mega link from the pastebin

https://mega.nz/#!59IB1Bbb!N0vwcqLivL2GvKujEaCggjb4ZzNDpWQBdfh-avAKapk

>>155294260
What skill is that even ?

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/smtg/ u ok son? It's September 20.

>>155287124
Take her to endgame with you as your loyal companion

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>>155297045
>Share birthday with Kaneko

>get ambushed
>binded and macca beam'd twice in a row

WHY DOES THIS SKILL EXIST
FUCKING FUCK

>>155297601
Are you not a masochist anon?

>>155292108
might have to beat those two for it to pop up. it's a challenge quest in midtown fighting a demon

bring tetrakarn, never take any damage during the quest

>>155297009
"cosmic flare"

>>155299514
So why don't phys attacks use HP anymore?

>>155299514
Is Dark Energy not in SMT4A?

>>155299712
I miss it, but MP becomes a complete non-issue once you get Party MP Restore

>>155299762
No idea, probably as DLC again.

>>155299712
Blame Strange Journey

>It's a "Demon you've already encountered but now their stats are obscured so you can't double check their weaknesses" episode

Anyone have the DLC titlekeys yet?

>>155299514
Wait so does pierce get past repel now?

I did a strength run for 4, not knowing any better. Should I keep the buff train rolling?

>>155300049
I've had Toki's Armor Pierce get through phys reflect demons like Rangda, but I don't know about other skills

>>155297009
JP name for Freikugel

>absolutely steamroll SMT4 with Concentrate + Megido/la/on, literally all random encounters were over before enemy turns
>nowhere near that level of power in Apocalypse with Charge + Heaven's Bow

Did I make a mistake not going magic for once?

>>155297009
The bottom most gun skill? Riot Gun/Freikugel

>>155300378
Yes, you did

>>155299106
i have the quest finally. will take tetrakarn with me. thanks.

>>155300574
>since Nanashi reminded me a little of Demi-fiend ( who was in the only game that rewarded physical) I decide to see if dex is viable
>gamefags forms say every build is viable xDDD

And I'm guessing there's no way to respec and I'll have to pay shekels for incense DLC if I want to change this

When does SMTA hit the Eshop?

>>155301041
It's already there

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>Pre-order on Amazon Prime
>lol fuck your 2 day shipping guarentee, you're getting it October 3rd

I fucking hate them.
Does the pre-order costume give you any bonuses?

>>155301434
>Pre-order
>Get it almost two weeks after release
That's not how it should work; I would have canceled my pre-order, and pirated it at that point.

>>155301738

Too bad none of the DLC is available to be pirated.

just GOT BACK FROM MCDONALDS AND GAMESTOP WOHOHOHOHHOHH

>>155301738
The date said it should have arrived a day after release. Then it got changed the moment it shipped, just like Dragon Quest VII

Navarre gets Debilitate at 78 fuck yes

>>155301875
>going to gamestop

>>155302000
>PAYING MONEY FOR SHIPPING

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>>155302030
>graduate school for 5 months
>can still use amazon prime student trial for 6 free months of service

>>155302030
>Paying money for untranslated shit

>>155302170
Fuck off Isamu, NEETs don't belong in this WORLD OF STR.

>>155299712
I would be fine with MP only usage if they made it % based like previous HP using skills.

>>155302170
>the untranslated lines only show up if you're shitty enough to let your friends die during one battle
Maybe you should just get good at the game.

why is the other side of the box art portait???

>>155302445
>let your friends die
>implying you can control enemy AI

>>155302030
>paying money for a shitty localization that skips several dialogue lines and it's bloated with memes

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>Hmm, I can fuse my favourite demon right now, but she won't have good skills. Oh well, I'll just use mitama and -- wait fuck
Which element up/down ranks Lady clan in SMT4A?

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Post your current team in whatever SMT you're playing

>>155302515
You can't even buff, or heal them either

where can i get a yamata no orochi for the challenge quest?

>>155302660
get fusing, boy

fuck, i need to update my system to play the game ;__;

>>155302138

>Akira's older sister was young enough to taken into the cocoons
>Meaning Akira couldn't have been much older than twelve, tops
>somehow, he held an important role at the Counter-Demon Force HQ and was strong enough to drive back the entire Counter-Demon Force when he defected to early Mikado

Why would you let a twelve year old into your secret military base?

>>155302812
Woah woah woah
Please elaborate

>>155303131

>twelve year old is more powerful than your entire force barring Not!Flynn

Why wouldn't you let him join?

>>155301862
It'll probably be available today
Can even play on Apocalypse difficulty as opposed to non pirate which only gets it 10/4

Whatever happened to Kaneko?

>>155303336
Still at Atlus.

>>155303336
Dead and forgotten and soul eaten by a Preta

>>155302724
fucc

>>155303336
He fused and became Kanedoi.

>>155302812
Can anyone else confirm that SMT4A requires updating past 11.0? I don't want another dealbreaker to throw on my pile of dealbreakers.

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>>155303336
He ascended to the penisrealm.

>>155303164
don't worry, i just hadnt update my 3ds in years

>>155303131
They retconned his sister into younger sibling.

>Gaston meta joke about collecting relics being for beggars
kek it seems like I will love numbah 1

>>155303715
What version were you on?

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>>155266253
Where are all pieces of The Wings of Order? And where can I find the Goddess Feather?

>>155303719
Which is weird. I mean Fujiwara mentioned he met Akira like once and the kid had a DSP and said he'd get to the surface no matter.

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>>155303672
SMT4A requires 10.5.0U to be installed, I'm on 9.2.0U (A9LH'd ofc) and it can be bypassed with a 11.0 firmware.bin file for Luma3DS:

https://mega.nz/#!YNFz2TZT!Wk25ovHHexz9p8ali1PL_nOl6WV4uzKZ3XgKIyyIQI4 (N3DS)

https://mega.nz/#!RdUy1bDS!VmNOoSsLEbFLZarSEri8O7CMck19xWg2FFbkoHNevCs (O3DS)

>>155303336

Well, we're getting Kaneko Works Vol 4 which is supposed to be the stuff from Pandemonium artbooks. I don't think there will be a new cover illustration though.

>>155303972
Thanks anon, you are the helpfullest. Looks like I'm going to be okay.

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>>155302578
team atm

also i wasn't expecting anything finnish to end up in an smt game. nice. and what the fuck is this goth armor? do i really have to whip out my dick now? nanashi makes for quite a cute trap.

So, does anyone know where I can find the Goddess Feather?
It's the item the fairy that runs the shop in the Kasumigaseki Hunter HQ asks for(late game).
It's not an official quest and I am not sure where to search

>>155302529
>$

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Just got Apocalypse. Any tips or tricks?

What demons do I need to fuse Adramelech? Also, Tokyo is going to shit, everyone has turned into Flynnfags.

>>155305429
Resist Ice:Napaea
Resist Fire:Nozuchi
Resist Force:Ictinike
Resist Gun:Tangata Manu
Resist Light:Spprigan
Chakra Walk:Parvati
Beastly Reaction:Kaso

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>Humans are jackasses
>Try to peer pressure a demon minding his own buissness into doing reds
>Demon raises a good point about humanity claiming to own land when his kind have been around since the beginning
>Ashura-kai fuckboy wants me to kill the bro demon

Easiest choice in the game.

>>155306000
I heard demons have affinities now? How does that work? Or does it only apply on increasing damage?

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>>155306083
Hell yeah, bro!

>>155306138
Damage and MP cost

Why is Dagda the only one who figured out the Flynn is a fake?

>Toki cuts in as the battle starts
>Insta kills demon I was going to recruit

When bringing best girl goes wrong

>>155306349
Because bondsfags are retards.

>>155306349
Only actual Gog in the building vicinity?
The rest are stupid humans(and a devil kid)

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>>155306583
>Best girl
>Toki
That's not how you spell Pascal!

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Picked up my copy today. Never actually beat 4 because the map made me want to rip my fucking hair off. I put 31 hours into that game and I just couldn't tolerate it anymore.
So far I am having a good time.

>>155306789
Does she stop being a shitter hunter whose demons disobey her?

It happened during a boss fight where I needed a heal and she fucked it all up

>>155306583

Was it a female demon?

Toki seems to kill literally every female demon I come across.

>>155306349

Because Dagda is A) intelligent and B) a God of Knowledge.

>>155306789
>Even the angels bully her with makeup on

Poor doggu

>>155306964

>actually relying on the partners

I mean, they can help, but you shouldn't NEED them to beat most bosses.

>>155305429
- Don't go DEX
- Farm hordes for crazy exp. Make sure to abuse smirk hama/mudo, because they can obliterate an entire horde at once.
- Navarre has crazy good buffs for bosses, and Toki is good for horde farming/general exploration because she has instant kill moves that proc often.
- Fundraiser is an app trap; you'll have more than enough money just by collecting relics.
- Party MP Recovery is an amazing app

>>155307009
It actually was a female demon

I just thought it was a coincidence

>>155306964
>Relying on partners
Have fun with the untranslated text.

>>155307140
Navare is always useful until you can get luster candy/debilitate, which is pretty late game.
Hallelujah is great for a few specific bosses and consistent damage after Mikado events

>>155307097
Doggo with makeup is cute! CUTE!

>>155307140
It was before I bothered to fuse a demon with Media

I learned my lesson after that and just stuck with Navarre

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>tfw just got my copy

>>155306642
Does that include Danu? She's never around when the party actually needs her, except when it's time to mooch off of her big sis Inanna.

>>155307193
Also,

Eventually, you'll get to a point in the story where you can destroy the next tier of barriers (Remember wormwood? There's even more), and at that point, you can destroy the strange black/teal growths you might have seen around the world for bonus items. At first it might just seem like garbage spell consumables, but you can get good stuff like Armor Boost Kits, and jewels which you can trade for good items (5:1, though.)

>>155303131
In SMTIV neutral route they mentioned on a bar that Akira was a young boy who grabbed his grown-up underwear, fused some demons and challenged the Sky Tower to reach the surface and meet his sister.

>>155307396
Well she's a woman. I never expected much of her to begin with.

>>155307528
So is Inanna, and she does more stuff with in her limited time than Danu.

>>155307193
>don't go dex
Look at this tremendous faggot

>>155307520

In Apocalypse, you have a dream very early on about being Akira.

He's hanging out in the Counter-Demon Force Base in the last few minutes before the nukes hit Tokyo, and actually seems to have some authority.

>>155307193
>>155307193
> Party MP Recovery is an amazing app
It's THE AP trap.
Sorry but full healing through bars/springs is not only cheap as fuck but also extremely common
Also the first rank costs a buttload of 60 AP and heals a shitty amount, Chakra Walk on the other hand can be gained early from Parvati and heals a lot on nice MP demons
The best AP to spend and stack early is obviously Fusion Booster, shit is just waaaaaaaaaay more useful than anything else and it's obvious for anyone that has played megaten that demons are the real meat of your party for most of the game, and having up to 15 FUCKING levels higher demons is insane, especially with how early you can get it as it's not level dependant unlike MP Recovery

>>155307624
I went dex, so yes, I am feeling quite the faggot right about now.

>>155306349
Cause he's the good god and he's good at seeing fakes.

>>155307591
By more stuff you mean lust after Nanashi's uncut demon slayer right?

>>155307193
Fundraising is useful for seeing unique dialogue if this is like IV.

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>>155301434
>Not having Gamer's Club Unlocked
>Not preordering at Best-Buy
>Not getting a sweet 20% discount on all new games
>Not using your points to get $5 discount coupons
>Not getting the game for $37 (after tax)
>Not picking it up at your local Best-Buy on release day

>>155307842
SMTIV and Final unique dialogue is not worth it.
It's especially jarring coming from the Devil Survivor games where almost every demon has uniqye quotes when created and when used for fusion (less in 2, but still a lot of variety)

>>155307709
Having to trek back to Healing Springs when you're in the middle of a dungeon fucking sucks, and skill slots are way too valuable to waste on a passive which holds no in-battle usage.

I stopped at Fusion Booster 4, and now that I'm 81 it's irrelevant, while Party MP Recovery is still relevant.

>>155306083
demons are a creation of humans so its unlikely that he was there before man. Whats not to say he was created and believed himself to own that land

>>155307780
I meant that Inanna's spirit goes back into Toki when Danu is being greedy, gets busted out by Krishna and goes to work popping out demons and hiring body guards to protect her in the Cosmic Egg, help out Krishna in building the new universe as thanks for ressureting her. She can fend for herself with unique elemental skills, flirts with Nanashi, and is available for fusion after battle. That's more than what Danu does, which is pop out of Nozomi to shill Bonds.

>>155307937
Final has less bosses so they should add more now.

IV had a ton of bosses who used generic boss dialogue based on what they are like the fiends.

>>155307990
This is currently the Fifth humanity so he can be before the fourth humanity. As long as we are talking about IV only.

>>155306789
Why do people call her Pascal? you can't fuse her to make a doggo

Best girl is Gaston

>>155307842
Demons are still disgusted by your greed in Final, and so far Fundraise doesn't work on any Polythesitic Alliance member. They are all disgusted by Nanashi's greed.

>>155308209
Her clothes being blue and white are meant to invoke him. That's why she got him as one of her choices as a nickname early on.

She even admits she likes it and only stops cause it's a dogs name.

>>155308013
I was just shitposting mang. But if I were to continue shitposting, I'd say that Inanna is just an exception.

>>155308209
Her design evokes Pascal, blue body and white head, and one of her options for Hunter name is "Pascal"

>>155308209
You can call her Pascal multiple times in the game. Plus she follows Nanshi around like a puppy.

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Why is Nozomi such a best? like I'm seriously amazed on how much I like her. In SMTIV she was just the random chick who liked photos but now she's basically the team's voice of reason.

>>155308273

It's not about the money.

It's about sending a message.

>>155308478
Nozomi is a dork

>>155308478
She's the only one with a brain, right along with Gaston

>>155307937
Yeah, SMTIVA has some really bad demon conversations. I remember undead demons like Zombie Cop, and Patriot had TOTALLY UNIQUE dialogue in SMTIV, but now it's stupid *teleports voice into ur head*, and dumb zombie groans. Lazy lazy lazy

This is also an incredibly minor thing, but they took out the descriptions of Hordes in the analyze screen, which I really enjoyed reading about.

SMTIV:
>Demonstrators: A gathering of ghosts that strikes fear in the hearts of people. They appear when the economy is on the decline or when a major incident occurs. Since the beginning of humanity, ghosts of this sort have been too abundant to be worth mentioning. These ghosts gather and yell out their doctrines and assertions, confusing people, but in the end they just want to make noise

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>>155308332
>>155308316
>>155308462
I kind of figured it was the colours, but she's not like a doggo at all until the end

>useless bitch who was the one who got us into this shit in the first place
>slowly stops being a shitter once she realises what a fuckup she is
>gives me my smirks, start mowing down random encounters
>Lucifer and Merkabah dead, know that obvious shit is still gonna go on but decide I'll bring her around doing all the sidequests after seeing the next event
>we never get to spend a few more hours doing sidequests together

>>155308641
Me too, I fucking loved the Horde descriptions. Literally the only thing not making this better than SMT4 for me.

>>155308539
Humans don't want salvation. They want material possessions like macca, friendship, food, and shelter to satisfy their bottomless desires.

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>>155308209
She's cute. Just like a dog.

>>155308583
Please don't bully the cute fairy queen.

>macca beam spammers are in the Ginza shopping district
>where you're likely carrying fuckloads of cash saved up over hours so you can lose it all in seconds before you can buy anything

Is Atlus trying to make players die from aneurysms?

>>155308817

>friendship
>material

What's the going rate on macca to friendship conversion?

Because I've got a couple of friends who I'm pretty sure would go mad, fuse with a demon and join up with Angels or Lucifer once the apocalypse comes.

I'm just saying I'd rather have a few million macca on my side than a bunch of people who are going to turn on me unless I subscribe to their branch of crazy.

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>>155308817

>>155308987
I'd like to bully Nozomi with my mara but she's too much of a dork

>>155309067
delet this

>>155308462
Hold the fuck up, you can make her accept one of those nicknames at the beginning?

>>155309020

>you can save basically anywhere

It was worse in Nocturne.

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>>155309115

What camera views do you guys generally use?

>Only just started playing IV
>Going to be a week at least before I can start Apocalypse

Just kill me.

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>The enemy strikes first
>Toki jumps in
>"Objective complete"

>>155309215
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>>155309403

Man, I don't think I could really enjoy IV after playing through Apocalypse.

>better characters
>massive gameplay improvements
>more interesting dungeons

It's just a better game all-round.

>>155309403
Don't bother. IV is just a waste of time.

>>155309562
pixiv
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>>155309403
Play only until Flynn gets the Masakado sword and start Final none of the endings on IV is good.

>>155309585
>>155309591

I still need to play it to get half of what's going on though, don't I?

I've heard there's some bonuses for having a IV save file with at least one route completion too.

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>>155309631

>>155309631
>>>/pol/
I get your point but don't bring it here.

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH NANASHI PORN JESUS CHRIST HE'S EVEN TAKING DAGDA'S DICK

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>>155309631
ayo hol up

>>155309764
Nanashi is a neutral drone and Dagda is very possessive of him.

>>155309631

Is this a meme?

Could you guys at least use spoiler tags? This game just came out for most people

>>155309704
Alright. You want things your way? Play IV to the point in which you get locked in the neutral route.
Then drop it and play the far superior Apocalypse.

>>155309730
>I get your point
What did he mean by this

>>155309764
Because disgusting fujoshits

>>155309562
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55309903
I managed to find it for you in a sea of yaoi shit. I want at least two life stones for this, motherfucker,

>>155309704
Don't listen to them and just play the game.

You'll appreciate the differences far more

>>155309958
>cheat

>>155309907
We already knew the entire plot months before it got localised. So no. Either fuck off the internet until you finish it, or don't bother typing posts like these.

>>155309910

Why go through 80% of the game, only to stop?

>>155310067
FOR LIFE STONES? You are one cheap asshole

>>155309929
I'm saying that I know niggers are just as racist if not more than the people they claim to be.

>>155310175
Even 1% is too much.

>>155310235

IV isn't that bad.

>>155310303
It's the new hip meme

>>155309907

We've known basically every major plot point for months. Coming to a fansite (or thread) and expecting not to get spoiled is ridiculous.

does porn of adramelech exist?

So what exactly stops YHVH from coming back in the Bonds ending and killing everyone again?

>>155310303
It is to me.
>>155310575
>t. John Hardin.

>>155308478
>voice of reason
She's a fucking hypocrite you should be ashamed if you didnt slap that bitch hand after she says she will join the party to kill you if you go along with Dagda's plans

Yeah. Will of Flame just allowed Trisagion to pierce my Makarakarn, so I guess pierce does ignore repel now

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>>155310175
this is my smt disease.
SMT IV was the only game I haven't dropped at final/semifinal dungeon.
>P1 in Avidya
>P2 in Xibalba
>P3 in final month
>P4 in fog
>Nocturne before Noah
>SJ in Horologium

I eventually come around to finish them but I usually lose steam just before end somehow.

>>155309764
Nips like their fuccbois.

>Even artists who like titty monsters draw him getting dicked.
It's just the rules of nature.

>>155310804
Danu wouldn't let Nozomi side with Dadga even if she wanted. Her actions in Massacre could just be Danu taking control of the body.

>You don't have to search for demons just to fuse
>Instead they let you choose again
QOL changes are amazing.

Defiant Horde isn't listed as resisting light, and yet, my Mahamaon is only doing 60 damage per hit. Surely that's not intentional

>finally find porn of Nozomi and Nanashi fucking
>IT'S NOZOMI PEGGING NANASHI
what the fuck, Japan? That's OOC as fuck, not even Flynn who had a ponytail and long hair had this much porn.

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>>155311274
>15 hours in
>remember I can include the compendium for fusions
>Have Fusion Booster 7

>>155311685
Danu wants those fairy babies.

>>155304608
Anyone?
It's the last thing left before I finish the game.
I did all the actual sidequests (Final Dagda trial was a bitch)

>>155311705
FINISH THE GAMES YOU WEAK WILLED PUNK

I miss the hunter rankings

>>155311685
Flynn was too old and straight

Nanashi is an underage boy for fujoshi to imagine him getting pegged/imagine pegging him

>>155312292
But Flynn being straight only makes it hotter to imagine him getting turned into a fag. God, these fujoshi can't even get gay smut right. Are they good for anything?

Can I take miiverse screenshots of Apocalypse with an EUR 3DS?

>>155311081
It's not just in Massacre her muh nakama speech to Dagda in bonds is fucking retarded when she joins the party threatening to kill you if you don't go bonds

Huh, side quest locations on your map glow green

>>155312796
Silly anon, neither Nozomi or Nanashi have free will. They're just puppets and tools for the fairies to use to secure their spot as top demon.

>>155313054
Mapper also highlights other locations than cities/dungeons and relic spots if you hit a button.

>>155313256
Calm thyself YHVH.

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Apoc difficulty is fun as fuck after you get past the bullshit everything-misses phase at the beginning.

This guy was brutal, really made me think.