/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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first for comfy

Xnth for retractable landing gear based on door block being like landing on doors an not landing gear for stability and not breaking everything

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k who fucked up the pastebin

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post lewd gun platforms

mein first attempt

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More like this. I don't care about your clangy sim speed eaters.

>>155253120
Oh we don't have those then.
Yet

>>155251441
OP fucked up the OP again.
KEK.

F

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>>155244591
the ship was actually still and suit dampeners off, but I guess it thought I should still be moving at 400 m/s

still takes way too long to build shit, I hate hate hate hate components

>>155254635
Thats why creative, best way to do quick tests, and then aply it to survival.
Sometimes, a ship or a concept was even a month before i even dare to build it in my survival run.

>>155255081
I kinda enjoy some of the limitations of survival, like having to make a scaffold to build that solar tower, but running back and forth carrying 1/10th of the materials you need to place a single block is killing me, I'd rather go long distance mining in elite dangerous

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>>155255508
Thats where you need a hand or 2.
Remember that "big" components go thorugh "big" conveyors.

>>155254635
>not digging moat
>shooting dogs
>not building the solar panels at least at 200m from the ground so that they will work all night since marek is too fucking stupid to realize that if you're in the shadow of a planet it's not the same than being in the shadow of an asteroid
3/10 apply yourself

>>155255508
honestly, I use the realistic inventory size because so ships will have nice limitations and built/stored blocks will have the same weight, but not having the 10x inventory on foot is literally painful.

>>155255950
the personal inventory is just too limited, components should be lighter.

>>155255691
delete this

>>155256121
You can put welders or grinders as gloves.
I need to work a little more on that shit.
And make it better.

>>155255950
also, 10x inventory cargo ships are infeasible on blandets in vanilla

You're seriously shooting yourself in the foor by playing A) starting on planets, B) playing in 1x inventory, and 3) playing vanilla

>>155256081
recipes are difficult to remember too, so it slows you down while trying to remember which ones you need to carry or which ones to manufacture

the whole thing needs simplification, welding blocks together with components is kinda cool but its too tedious to make anything large with

once you get worker bees that can hold a whole bunch of shit at once I guess it gets easier, but before then you're basically boned

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>>155256223
>>155256121
here is the starting point.

>>155257086
Nice knowing you.

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>>155256769
>trying to remember which ones you need to carry or which ones to manufacture
Wield the block you're trying to build, go to a cargo container that contains the components, right-click in an empty space.

Boom, components in your personal inventory. If you don't have the components required and/or not enough room, a warning message appears. Also, if you don't have enough room, go back to the container after you placed the first set of components you picked up and right click into an empty space again.

If you did not a mobile welder ship, also acts as a component mover and hydrogen/oxy/power regen, then it is your own fault making yourself work so hard.

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>>155236223
>>155234670
How did you not know? ITs great its got QT russian girls and in my opinion cooler ship designs.

>>155255691
have you tried using Control Module mod?
it's pretty easy and you can bind everything to real keys and mouse, no need for the hotbar anymore.

>>155256568
That's not true, 1x inventory adds a nice challenge to the game and it's not THAT limiting.
But surely, to a first time player I'd suggest 10x inventory especially on planets where you have to run back and forth.

>>155257420
undocumented features don't exist

I can't make a worker bee yet, probably not for a while
>ASPergers

The only mistake one can make starting on planets is to go after ore deposits instead of rocks on the surface.
The only time I needed to get to a vein was when I was building the nanite factory, because gold is pretty rare in rocks.

>>155258608
>Nanite Factory
Which serb?

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>>155257909
I know the mod, but dont put it in any that im not taking seriously.

Now the hot thing is the Vtol Script, it alows you to use wasd to control thrusters on rotors.
The only thing you need aside from the timer and pb, its 1 thruster facing in the direction you want to be binded in the main body.
So you put 1 thruster facing down and another facing backwards. and you will be able to control ships with multiple grids using wasd.

The idea is kinda retarded, its better with 1 arm and more joints to be more flexible.

>tfw im thinking about making a devastator from many smaller constructicons ships.

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>havent played empyreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeon in a long time
>want to see whats new
>want to build spess ship
>oh boy, time to gather materials
>tfw forgot i have to mine everything by hand with a fucking lazer rifle that uses up ammo

Mining in Empyreon is the most unfun shit ever.

How do I make a really floaty plane/helicopter/whatever in FtD, /egg/?

I mean something that can land on water and maybe even function properly on it instead of just in the air.

Has anyone made something like that? Post if you did please.

>>155260646
>I mean something that can land on water and maybe even function properly on it instead of just in the air.
why not an air vehicle that doubles as a submarine

>>155263167
That's the first thing I'll be making as soon as some kind of rotating joints are added so I can rotate propellers or jets or something like an underwater VTOL.

>>155257469
Don't know why but my first thought was that, that was from eva 3.0...

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>>155257469
>how did I not know
I have an excuse - I watched it over 10 years ago in Ukrainian at my grandparents' dacha during the summer. I thought it was a one-and-done, based on the ambiguous ending. I only recently rewatched it and didn't keep up to date.

>QT Russian girls
Sophia best girl

why didn't anyone tell me that building ships in the FTD campaign is actually fun?

Is it possible to make vertical launch torpedoes in FtD? I thought about giving them a thruster and propeller combo with little fuel, but then i realized that the thruster would eat the fuel up and it'd probably not be able to keep it's forward momentum when it hits the water.

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>>155269901
We don't use the f-word here.

>introduce some event cosmetic for some old meme day
>it breaks the game
How many levels of CLANG are we on now?

https://twitter.com/Tommyfoxy2/status/778034279364177920

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>>155270243

Reminder that they said theya re talking about leaving early acess soon, and offering $45 permanent premium time to random new players as an experiment to see how many people they can screw out of $45 before quitting.

Its all tumbling down.

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Where does /egg/ get their music from. Without Kickass around anymore Im lost.

>>155271212
>he doesn't rip directly from the source
https://soundcloud.com/oneohtrix-point-never/ezra

>>155271212
initial d

>>155263318
>what are spin blocks

Happy birthday to me, I got an nvidia gtx 750ti, it's not even my fucking pc. Am I correct seeing this is from bloody 2014? Am I missing something with this card or is it cheap rubbish? The card atm is probably from 2010.

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>>155260646
I built this crap that can take off land on water

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>>155271780
>nvidia

>>155272030
Hopefully I can get them to go halves with me on a AMD RX 480. Need that vr performance.

>>155271212
Kickass mirrors, Soulseek

>>155271212
Youtube. Seriously. The kind of music I listen to are obscure and all-over-the-place as fuark.

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>>155271780
You can probably play most if not all pc games at medium high settings at a 900p resolutio. Though I do not know much about the 700 series.

Anyway, Happy Birthday.

>>155273498
Thanks. Also got honey rum which is awesome.

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>all the unique ores on the spengies server were working fine
>now they just give me stone and ice after i've logged off and logged in once
anyone else have this issue?

>>155271780
yeah it's basically rubbish, used to be decent for its price class but now it's competing directly with r9 380 and gtx 960

http://3dvce.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Are you ready for bioclang?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7QKupBLbMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acxfahXwMeE

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Lander bump

>>155277934
>>155277934
Emergent properties are very curious, they appear everywhere in the most diverse ways you can imagine

Is there any spungos scriptulature that would diddle with inertial damps or thrust override to allow the safe delivery of unmanned cargo from orbit? And then perhaps light a beacon on touchdown?

>p10

>>155270078
use a variable thruster set to minimum+ejectors?
also, you're trying to shoot a torpedo out of the top of the ship, right?

>>155271780
they probably had no idea and just bought something overpriced at a local store

>>155287231
It's my bf, it is his computer mostly, he is the one (supposedly) who knows about computers more.

Is the rx 480 a meme card or actually decent for vr?

>>155270078
set ejectors to launch them up and away from the ship

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>>155226187
>I give you that automated construction and repairs are a must
We've had that capability since blueprints and projectors were introduced.

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>>155268885
>over 10 years ago
damn

Yeah the russian girls are great. theres also some chick named Senpai, senpai

>>155257469
>>155268885
it turns into moeshit

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>/padg/ qts show up in search again
All is right.

>>155291545
please do proper search instead of being lazy

>>155271780
750ti will be serviceable if it's anything like the 650Ti, which I still use

But only the EVGA Superclocked edition.

>>155292216
>'egg' isn't good enough
Enjoy your single result with no qt to mire for a few seconds.

>>155292216
Not that anon but I have https://boards.4chan.org/vg/catalog#s=/egg/ bookmarked

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I miss early ACCS

>>155292401
>>155292425
>not adding it to the filters
>not having qts all around your first /egg/ thread
I seriously hope the reason is that you clear your cookies everytime you exit the browser.

>>155292237
>had a 670 PE
>thingken about upgrading to something a little more upper end
>stepfather gifts me a 960
Eh

>>155292401
On firelagfox, I only have to search /egg/.

On Microsoft Edge, I have to search for 'engineering'. Anyone know how to get webms to work for Microsoft Edge?

It is weird that Internet Explorer and all the other Browser apps in Microsoft Store can play Webms on this Mongolian cave painting e-panel.

dead thread

>>155288182
>gay

dead games

>>155294305
install a directshow codec for webms

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>>155294856
>straight

>>155294305
>win 10

>>155295241
ok, thanks. I will try that.

You guys build any gun platforms, yet? Posted mein already.
>>155252390

>anon talking about weapons platforms

Now I'm heavily debating what to do with my next project.

Do I go full warship corvette, battle-ready space metal church, or a carrier thing that can just shit out a defensive grid of solar powered energy weapon platforms?

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>>155296926
battle-ready space metal church, or are you some kind of heretic?

>>155296926
make a dick and go fuck yourself tbhfam

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>>155297101

>>155297101
The problem with that is the block count and sheep space needed to make an effective and aesthetic spacechurch

>>155297176
;^)

>>155296926
I was thinking about deploying weapon platforms in low orbit Ice moon, but Ced will probably freak about the high part count.

Can you actually orbit a blant in SE?

>>155298149
Heh.

>>155298020
With spengos garbage weapons and engagement ranges, orbital platforms are useless. You're better off with closer, smaller, self sufficient platforms

Unless of course you mean a platform to mount torpedoes to, at which point Ced would be more upset at the resulting grid count from all the busted torps.

>tfw you will never go NEET and spend all your time unspaghettifying SE code
why live

>>155298676
Who has the time to do anything?

>Who has the time to do anything?
What did he mean with this?

Anything has who to do the time?

Jesus fuck when did /egg/ become /v/

>>155299523
Ask kspg :^)

>>155298334
>tfw no edf-tier orbital satellite blasters

>>155299523
I never posted on /v/. Only this general and I lurk /ck/. How is this /v/?

>>155299523
>we will never make /v/ /egg/

>>155299919
See

>>155299370
>>155299049
>>155297392
>>155297176
>>155295263
>>155294856

It seems like the shitposting has been slowly getting worse

>>155300210
Worse as in more frequent or worse as in approaching/v/ tier?

>>155271510
>>what are spin blocks
Can they indeed function like that, that you can control their positioning based on various factors (for example distance from water or depth)?
>>155271780
Happy birthday!

How do I CIWS in FTD?

The fourms seem to have a lot of stuff from before the detection update and I can't make any of them work.

Missiles now have more health when they are longer, so it seems like a huge laser array is the way to go, but I don't want to spend that much fuel.

>tfw can't mine ice
>tfw can't mine anything but iron and rocks
>tfw stone crusher is slow
Thanks marek for that sneeki breeki update yesterday.
At least hydrogen thrusters are still bugged so I don't really need ice.

>>155300454
Fast shooting APS with flaks used to work.

>>155300315
Yes.

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>>155300210
40k shitposting just brings it out.

>>155300707
>APS
>flack
doesn't this make the flack weaker?

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>>>/sci/8358442
tumblr build boxjelly bls

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Engineering at a miniature scale

>>155302210
What do you think is better? A single shot CRAM bullet with a 30m explosion radius mid-air or 10 or 15 APS bullets with a 8m flak explosion radius?
Sure, if you compare single bullets, flak is weaker, but with CIWS (assuming you want the anti-barrage kind), you want to shoot as much as you can, which you can't do with CRAMs. If your gun is extremely precise you can change flaks with HE, but i don't think it's worthwhile

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>>155302615
>poker chips

>>155302474
>jellies
Why? Water is shit in spengies anyways

>>155302667
oh...you meant advanced projectile system, not armor piercing sabot. my bad.

>>155303153
There isn't any liquid water in Spengies.

FtD, is it possible to build weapon turrents in ftD? Is it complicated? I like complicated, it helps me pretend that I'm not a frakkin retard.

>>155303153
>>155303771
>implying space isn't water

>>155303885
Fuck off Socrates

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>>155303771
>FtD, is it possible to build weapon turrents in ftD?
Yes
>Is it complicated?
It's retard proof, seeing that most of the playerbase has managed to build a turret at one point of their lifes
However, doing neat turrets like the ones on >>155183835 can be quite complicated

>>155303885
>space is like water
>spaceships move in a 2D plane like they are boats instead of moving in a 3D plane like the subs they are

Life is suffering, amirite?

>>155303973
>>Fuck off Socrates
>implying I don't masturbate in the market place

>>155304206
That was Diogenes you plucked chicken faggot
>autism
>not knowing your ancients
pick one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braitenberg_vehicle
JELLYFISH.

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>>155302615
>useless hipster maker PCB "art" with blinking LED's to impress 12 year olds
>calling it engineering
this is disgusting and triggers my autism

step it up:
1: design and simulate circuit (pen&paper or something like SPICE)
2: if your design has a controller, write program and test it (evalution board)
3: design PCB (draw on copper PCB or Eagle or whatever)
4: make PCB or order it, order components
5: solder it, test it
6: if it works as intended, you may come back

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>>155303973
>mfw suddenly sophists in /egg/

>>155304512
>/egg/ - Ancient philosophers and PCB creation general

God damn i can't into nuguns CIWS at all.

Large caliber is needed because missiles have 33.33 health per block, but a high ROF is also needed because where there are 10 missiles there is 40 more...

so I need a large caliber high rate of fire gun...that also needs to turn quickly to shoot missiles. What the fuck.

And the extra missile health that missiles have now means that the old kinetic 18mm ciws is completely useless.

>>155307895
Just make multiple 60mmx6barreled CIWS shooting flak and you'll be mostly fine.

Add some flare launchers and antimissile missiles just in case

>>155306536
They are nowhere near as ancient as ur mum

>>155288182
If you're still here, 480 is meme shit. They made some shit that's can't even compete with the last generation and they want everyone to spend money on crossfire setups. Also driver issues as most amd products have but nvidia is known to not give a fuck about optimizing updates for older gen cards

>>155310672
meh-ngineering

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>>155310468
>if you're still here
>implying anyone can leave ever

Are there any cards specifically good for vr for £200~?

>>155312538
i-is this the true face of CLANG?

>>155312538
If you can't spend more than that I guess a 970 or even 980 if you can find a discounted 980 at all. Nvidia has been good for me so it's what I recommend but I encourage you to do your own research and try to sift through the memes.

Really as long as the card says vr ready on its information you should be fine.

>>155303885
space is actually more like a metallic gas

>>155312834
Look closer, it should look familiar.

earth without the water

>>155313217
is earth really shaped like that without the oceans

that looks hella non-spherical man

>>155313515
The water contributes to the mass and is affected by gravity so it is shaped to be spherical with the land

>>155313515
I'm guessing the height values are exaggerated a lot, so tiny variations become huge bulges

>>155313660
fucking mind breaking shit

almost as crazy as gas giants

>>155313217
>>155313660
>>155313753
>implying.
it has to be map of some discrepancies in something, looking at Pahjeet land maybe it's something with water quality

>>155299523
What do you mean? V and VG seem the same

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>>155315441
>/v/ and /vg/ seem almost the same
>V
>VG

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>>155315561
I don't know whats going anymore.

Back to business, post your FtD airships?

So I want to make a human capable of refining and all that jazz so I don't get stranded with no way to process fuel, but he's got to have good looks as well as function
How do you make your humans look good?

Noob here. How do I access the block variants in spengos?
Say I want to place a large thruster on a small ship, or place the other part of a 2 block slope? There's a little plus sign but I can't understand how I'm supposed to select blocks other than those displayed in the grid.

>>155315165
maybe it's the percentage of shit /m^2

>>155316164
scroll wheel?

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>>155315781
>post your FtD airships

It's still WIP, and i don't have pictures from the recent version.

>log onto serb
>try merging some ships together
>server freaks out
>suddenly one ship is inside the other
>shields draining fast
>they both flash red and cut out
>game crashes

Should I just not bother logging back on again?

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>>155316298
Doesn't work.
See picture. I want to get at 2, the lower end of the 2 block slope. And I see there's a + sign on 1, the upper part of the slope. But I can only add 1 to my hotbar. I can't select 2, even though I see it when I've got my cursor on the icon. As seen on the picture.
How do I access the variants that the + sign signifies the block has?

>>155316664
The world file, the world definitions and the three planets have now reached over 100MB of data.

I am not sure how I can or could reign that in.

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This is the Lua API changes I'm proposing.

>>155317005
Scroll wheel when you have the block activated in your hotbar.

>>155317005
when you are holding the item in your hand

then mouse wheel

>>155317067
make a post asking who still wants their stuff

whoever doesn't reply gets their stuff archived/deleted

>>155317067
Delete titan

>>155317241
delete titan and ayylmao

make slightly larger europa with more terrain generation

one planet would be best, keep everyone together

>>155317359
>delete ayylmao
>the only open pvp space on serb
>when there are still ayys to diagnose with low energy and lead deficiency

>>155317067
Start everyone on one planet. Very few asteroids, really really high gravity to stop people leaving the planet easily.

>>155317080
>>155317095

Oooooohhhh I feel like an idiot. I was scrolling down the G menu and clicking with the wheel, but I didn't try scrollig when I was holding the object!
Well, it's a little late. I may have crashed into a mountainside
Thanks anyway!

>>155317503
it is not open pvp, there is never any pvp, i doubt the server could handle it

>>155317789
Klendathu replace Arrakis, the open pvp world, due to memory leaks from Arrakis. I assumed it was implied the open pvp rule stuck.

>>155317658
>start people on a high gravity planet

how-to-kill-server-population-faster-than-keenswh-updates.exe

I think the server would fare a little better with fewer factions and more people using fewer grids. Planets are also an enormous resource drain, so paring down to one would help.

>>155317789
ayylmao is the new mad max world, only with plains and spoders instead of desert and spooky noises.

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fug

>>155318070
Probably. I'll ponder this.

>>155317067
The last update fucked up something, I can't mine shit and get only stone.
Maybe that caused the problem? World was 40MB yesterday and today when I logged in it was 47.

>>155319059
Asteroids also seem to have gotten covered in tumorous growths too

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Here's my first ship, it's pretty fun. I look forward to encountering CLANG for the first time.
I love that my cheapo computer (GTX 750ti, 8gb of ram, and an i3 6100) can run planets. Granted I need to use the lowest settings, but I never cared about graphics anyway.

>>155319272
You mean the yellow thing?
It's stone, (sand color), it is where old ore used to be. If you mine some ore and then move a bit away, when you come back you'll see a patch of that, or white stone.
Marek can't even avoid to fuck up the stable branch.

>>155287154
Yeah, trying to shoot them up vertically and have them go into the water and then towards the target, had the idea when i saw missiles run out of fuel on land and sliding towards the target at almost full speed.

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>>155319404
You're going to die

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>>155304476
you rang?

>>155319652
I shot a few rockets at an outpost, got shot out of my cockpit and crashed into a mountainside.

>>155319549
No I mean toothy jagged tumors made of new material, mostly stone, where empty space used to be.

>>155320186
Someone was saying that even before the update I think, but I might be wrong.

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>>155321176
Post comfy shitters
>no offset door without glass except for the MCM
>no comfy shower + washing machine/drier and toilet/sink combos
6.9/10 could be more comfortable but beats shitting in the suit.

>>155322063
Surely the best toilet would be one stuck to the outer hull? Imagine shitting while surrounded by the stars.

>>155320176
hope you blueprinted it

>>155290246
>that zipper going down and under the genitals
It's like they were trying to give an entire generation of boys fetishes for tight clothes or something.

>>155324189
>zipper anywhere near the genitals

>>155319404
>skylake
>cheapo

actually the best possible cpu for running the game senpai, I guess there's higher clocked variants

nvidia card also helps

the game basically does not support AMD at all, multihreading is shit, so amd CPU's are fucked, and it seems to rely a lot on tesselation and has hbao you can't turn off, so amd gpu's are also fucked

I hope they got paid good dosh for that

>>155325213
Panties anon.
Or protective fold below zipper.

>>155325213
To be fair she probably (hopefully) has something else on under that, as I don't think that a flightsuit would be terrible comfortable or even maybe insulating.

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>>155323178
That can be somewhat arranged.

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>>155328195
>windows on a spaceship

>>155308147
What do you recommend for a bullet? I keep having problems with ether barrel cooldown or projectile speed.

Would it make sense to go for a bigger shell? Flack has diminishing returns in longer bullets.

>>155328529
Why would you not put windows?
Like a fucking light armor hull is gonna keep you safe by any shit, it's the shield that does all the heavy work.

>>155332285
I want to penetrate it with my dick

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I must vent my frustration and I have no outlet.

is serb kill?

>>155333106
Go outside, scream in to the night

>>155333327
I don't think my neighbours will appreciate being the details of why space engineers sucks at 3 am

>>155333401
They might be egg

>>155333491
Spengies lan party?
At least wait for the rainy season, else the firemen won't be able to put down the fire of all those CPUs trying to run planets.

>>155333401
Go to either a not so populated area, or the top of the tallest building you can really access if in an urban area. Just avoid the youths

Stare up at the gleaming stars in the obsidian sky, and consider your place in the universe.

Consider all that you could achieve, that humanity could achieve. Think of the machines, the engineering.

Picture a great generation ship touching down on the surface of Alpha Centauri, the greatest achievement of the human race coming to rest on the alien soil of the first of many planets to be explored.

Now imagine the landing gear fucking explode and physics shits the bed, shredding the entire colony ship.

Take that anger, and SCREAM IT TO THE HEAVENS.

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>155304476
>>155319774
Today I made a calculator in VHDL and tested it in some alterra boards. It was suffering.

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>Perfected space combat to the degree that any non-moving opponent is 100% assured to be conquered and obliterated
>By proxy, ground combat is also very easily perfected, anyones' base is always either on a planet or around the planet, or in an asteroid field in the system
>Have so much loot and ships and stuff stolen or destroyed

I'm bored.

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>>155336337

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>>155317067
>Finally decide to start playing on the serb
>Ores fucked up
>This happens
Piss

>>155336852
I don't understand why it has to be a separate physics grid at all, couldn't they rig some system so it's firmly attached to the parent ship until the connection is severed by damage?

>>155338814
I guess I mean, kinda like a compound collider that reacts like a single solid rigidbody, pretty sure havok comes with this kind of shit out of the box

>>155338814
We've been over how stupidly computationally expensive that is if it's actually going to act correctly. If it's not a physics object it's going to be starmade.

>>155339012
>act correctly

>in a game where thrust is uniform no matter where engines are placed
>in a game where gravity has an arbitrary cutoff point
>in a agme wehere you cantd even fastt enough to obrit a plant
>in agamen whdb th mocing parnts weel about dnut ven wonr

>>155339253
So you want literally starmade again
What fucking point is there in spengies if physics isn't applied to everything, you're just rigging animation.

>>155339392
it would be nice to have a way for moving parts to be part of the same grid for simple things like doors

>>155339012
how would it be computationally expensive? any half decent game engine and physics engine already has the built in structures to do it perfectly

you'd basically just parent the child grid, so the whole ship is treated like a single rigidbody, then you'd have simple internal physics like "rotate x degrees" which would be much more stable

if you want to get fancy like rotors that react to physics (why would you want that?) they could probably handle the collision event and apply the impact force to the internal physics instead of the ship as a whole

could even do it for landing gears and shit so they just can't break except to damage

>>155339530
Mod the existing door systems. numbers senpai might help you.

>>155339621
>(why would you want that?)
R
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>>155339530
they basically already have that in the case of the airtight door, which is the right way to do moving parts since it never fucks up

who cares if there's "physics on everything" if that makes the game so unstable you can't play?

>>155339392
You can't whine about a proposed fix not simulating realistic physics when the game barely simulates realistic physics in the first place.

>>155339646
>existing doors system
You mean just make bigger moded doors? are we even talking about the same shit here? How can that be used as an excuse for broken inter-grid collision shit?

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>>155339813
its funny
even with no physics on fucking anything the game is still too unstable to fucking play

>>155339786
I can't think of a good engineering reason you would want that

seems to me you would want it to move exactly as you have designed it to

the only reason you'd want it to react is if you want a non-functional unhinged clang magnet spinning wildly and uncontrolled

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>>155338343
>finally decide to start playing on the serb
>ores fuck up
>crush that stone till I have enough resources to build things
It's all in how you look at it mate.
Pic related, built mostly with crushed stone and a shitton of iron I mined the first day.

>>155339959
Having a chance at it failing makes it better.

>>155339621
Feel free to make a PR against SECE. There's no documentation for Havok so I'll be fucked if I know how to work it. I really wanted to add in rails for doors.

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>>155340230
I'm guessing there's documentation for licensees that they're not allowed to republish. Sucks.

>>155339959
>seems to me you would want it to move exactly as you have designed it to
you are just rigging a fucking animation
ideally the fucking thing would torque out of the damn rotor or snap in two if you didn't build it right

>>155340949
why? ships don't snap in half if you put unrealistic stresses on single block connections either

>>155341034
I said ideally you retard. But it should act like a second part. I hate the way stuff rotates in starmade.

>>155341161
I'd rather build functional ships that don't spaz out at the slightest touch

>>155341161
You say that like the first part moves realistically

>You can't whine about a proposed fix not simulating realistic physics when the game barely simulates realistic physics in the first place.

>>155341485
At least shit acts like it's moving and a static animation.

>>155341592
except for the times where it inexplicably blows itself the fuck up

There are already collision physics in the game. How on earth parenting a subsection and distribution collision information across connection would be substantially more challenging than any other collision is beyond me. You're literally arguing against wanting a more stable system in an unrealistic game with "but it wouldn't be realistic"

If you want your other segments to produce a drag and act like a separate ship, at least tell me you have the mod that makes center of thrust actually matter if it still exists

>>155340674
Propietary shit inside more propietary shit inside even more shit.

>>155334361
why? sounds pretty good

page ten

>>155330396
There are shields in Spengies?

>>155330607
You have my interest with that vehicle and grenade. The warehouse, not so much.

>>155345637
Mods.

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>>155345637
yes, they even can be set to cut shit like a blade.
I dont have the webums, but there is.
Then there is an energy shield like star trek.

>>155346214
>they can even be set to cut shit
Dear god find the webums.

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>>155310468
>nvidia is known to not give a fuck about optimizing updates for older gen cards
that's sadly an understatement, they actively gimp their old cards via driver updates to make people buy new ones.

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>>155346324
>>155346214
i have a webum

>>155303754
i like using solid shot ciws, it feels more satisfying seeing the missiles explode from a hail of shells

>>155347338
Suddenly I realize that I could have never had to repair my blade if I added a small shield to my ship.

What happens if both have shields?

any way i can get AI to use heliblades in FTD?

>>155348430
Same as every impact, they either hold or fail.

I have no idea about that mod that can cut shit though. The other one applies a HP bar to the grid before damage is done to it.

>>155348520
did you intend to reply to me?

How does one have fun in single player survival spengies?

>>155348520
for
>>155348374

>>155348601
play pretend
remove pirates
pet dogs
pet spiders
CLANG

>>155348601
you don't

meteors off, finite world

>>155348601
With an alternate start.

The vanilla is 1, amospheric lander, and you are alone with the dawgs or 2 an easy station start that gets under attack 1 minute after you enter.
Most vanilla and fun i found was a mix of the 2.
>create an earth easy start in creative
>enter and delete the station and all the ships and projectors
>go to space when you still have gravity and far enough from pitate stations
>paste an amospheric lander
>let the batteries recharge a litte
>edit the save to survival and put your preferences in items and welders and that bullshit
>goal is to reach alium planet and make a permanent base there.
You can use mods like the exploration enhancer to increase the spawns in space.
Midly abandoned because im testing alot of shit in creative, but thats the way im playing it.

>>155349023
Not him but I found solo planet survival to be miserable because if I managed to land safely I couldn't really get off planet since I had no fucking idea where to find any resources besides stone.

>>155349830
there's different coloured patches of ground, and some fairly distinctive boulders scattered around, that's where the ores are

>>155349023
EEM trading never worked, and now I can't access the stations because of airlocks blowing me away.

Other than that, it's probably one of the best mods around.

>argenfaget jumps in and starts sending drones
>decide to engage
>thirty seconds after disconnecting from the station all reactors blow up because thanks marek
>drifting in space at 150m/s, trying to cobble together a battery to restart hydro thrusters
>two more fucking pirate ships jump in
>start closing in
>start hydros and run, keep them 10k away then they disappear
>stop to get silicon
>THEY'RE FUCKING BACK THEY NEVER GAVE UP
>this continues for 4000km
>eventually manage to land on ayy and they don't follow down
Then I discovered that spiders jump

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>>155349830
>the atmospheric lander has its ore detector on the bottom, facing down and 1 block over the edge thats wrong.. is it??
>its there because... its like a metal detector thing you know
>but marek, you know it works with range
>yes yes... but it gives you THE FEELING....
>its still bad marek, any failed landed means no ore detector at the start
>DO AS I SAY
>yes mr rosa..

>>155340012
It's just kind of annoying when I find that the fuel I marked earlier now sexually identifies as ice

>>155350104
If only factions were smarter and didn't just track like cyberpooches. If you want, you could easily throw on a few scripts to make shit even better, such as using antenna comms to get status readouts from remote stations, and the Fleet Command Mod so you can send fighters and such at the pirates.

>>155349023
Alien planet is super easy to reach though. All you need to make an interplanetary ship is included in the lander.
Honestly, they should make refineries and assemblers dirt cheap, or at least include a slow but cheep way to start from scratch. Maybe a tierd system where you work your way up in tech, and not just for the hand tools.

>>155350341
You stick them down so that you can steal those 5 extra meters since 150 is so short.
Long range detectors mods are a godsend, if only keencode wouldn't fuck that up too.
>activate 1km range detector at 70km from planet
>still queries the whole planer
>death by simspeed
>if you save it carries on when you load

300 meters work well for planets.

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>>155320186
And whatever the heck these are

>>155350983
When where you when even ore CLANGed?
I was serb
Egg rings
>Mineing is kill
no

>>155350634
as secondary objetives you can do a total pirate clensing on planets and moons, personally i dont use jumpdrives, but i have no speed limit.
>>155350567
>>155350104
>anything that is not me is my enemy
No trade or diplomatic bullshit, charge the guns and kill everything.

Still the most fun are planetary dogfights, you just wonder arround a spawn pirate base, and wait for like 4 drones and then go and smash them, shame they dont follow you, they just stop and aim, sitting ducks.

>>155350970
Its better to make a small scout with those components.
Eeasy and right from the start, you need like 1/4 of detector components to make a smaller.

>>155351334
>make a scout
Yep, that's what I did on my first planet.
Get either a flying or hovering scout, mark boulders, come back with drill-van and collect.

>>155351230
>where were you when even ore CLANGed?

Being nick smart and playing FtD

>>155325492
This. I have an i3 6100, but it is overclocked to ~4.5ghz. He will need a motherboard that can overclock the BCLK.

I am thinking about upgrading to an i7 6700 cause Spengies was using over 80% CPU when I was testing out my gun platforms against a heavily shielded big ship.

>lewd ASMR track ends in "senpai... daisuki desu..."
>boner dips, feel sad again
>Rome nukes my new vassal's recently freed city and takes a good number of my units with it
>Rome is huge so I have no idea how many nukes they have, probably gonna go full spymaster just to count the nukes
>Can't be arsed to track down another torrent of nip VAs being lewd
How's /egg/'s evening?

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Hey look, an actual crossout review that goes pretty in depth to all the bullshit. Anybody who hasnt played the game yet can get a pretty accurate view of the game in this review.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/09/19/crossout-review-early-access/

>Many folks will be able to overlook those niggles and the interminable grind. It’s also possible the rate of progression will be reworked. But for me it is currently like traipsing through a bog, and the sheer grubbiness of all the menus doesn’t give me much hope. A horrible thing to have to say, because the wasted potential here is astounding. It’s like someone took all the joy and creativity of Besiege and made it competitive (again, what a great idea) but then they soaked it in grind, leveling, bad AI, icky microtransaction bait and then – consulting no-one – slapped a full-price tag of 25 quid on it. A big disappointment to see so many unforgivable flaws in such a wonderful game, where they simply don’t belong.

>>155353995
>microtransaction
Dropped.

Too bad, game looks awesome.

>>155353995
>he didn't payed us to shill it/10
Dosent take the fact that the game is shit, but you can clearly see they save ammo for shit like this.

>>155355521
fucking leaguetards

>>155355570
having dirt on people and using it to blackmail them for megabucks is part and parcel of journalism

honest journos are poor journos :^)

>>155356464
whoops, posted in the wrong general, it did save the thread from dieing though

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>>155357464
kill yourself

Tried getting into factorio again, looks like I'm hooked this time was really put off by graphics earlier. How come I don't have any aliens attacking? I've built some ineffectient base setup with red/green automation and a 1-13-10 steam setup. Is my pollution just not high enough yet? Is it something I should worry about? I went exploring on a car and there are nests everywhere around me.

Aight.

Since I do not have the time under the week (busy with work), I'll look into thoroughly cleaning and revamping the server on the weekend. It seems like we are fucked one way or another, with 51MB world file, over 120 MB asteroid/planet files and 5 MB definitions file.

The problem is, without an activity log, I don't know which grids I can remove/mothball, except for guessing. It also seems that the tremendous amount of voxel data causes the RAM of the server to chug to full in short time, which then results in swapping at cost of CPU cycles. Stability ain't all that great, either.

I would like to switch to Keo's box, but that requires Keo, and, ideally, a slot in a datacenter (if that's affordable) with better upstream - as soon as the world reaches a certain size, consumer upload bandwidth just isn't gonna cut it, regardless how good or bad the box is.

Additionally, the 1 planet, 1 moon idea requires some heavy lifting, that'd love to share among people, but I don't know how to do that without it being chaos. We need height maps, biome definitions, etc., and that is a massive time sink to get done properly. The zoning channels alone are a mindfuck and a half. I really don't know when I'd have the time, exept for weekends. Incidentially, that's also where I don't work and like to do other shit.

The alternative is a wipe, but, lel, who likes to see all their shit vanish? Personally, I enjoy the first steps into space and the scrambling to make due and survive, but the post-scarcity situation is reached so fast, it's a short enjoyment.

If anyone has an idea or concept and what we shall do with the drunken server, early in the morning, please let me know.

>>155358753
Mad Max serb

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Got SECE running on newest github. You'll have to fuck with your quality settings to get particles again since the previous update broke them. I also had to hack on some mods to get them working again.

No release yet, since I was fucking around with gravity source priorities and broke something.

>>155358753
Come up with a set of guidelines on what grids/asteroids should be kept and I may be able to whip up a mod or an external script.

>>155346170
Plen is Raven mod. There is also Aircraft mod which has stronger plens but I didn't have resources for those.
Flame grenade is from Flamenades mod.
Ore silo is from Angel's something.

>>155347338
tch, nothing personnel!

>>155251159
>decide to spessengineers agains after a few months break
>all mods are broken
>small blocks are randomly small/big
>clang will never be fixed
fuckin shitheads cashing in on the medieval shit instead of fixing this shit fuck.

Any other functional spacebuild game that doesnt look like complete garbage?

>>155322063
>large blocks
>comfy
:)

I had a pretty nice one. Small room, basically that shower was the entire one side, the other had a shitter and a sink, sloped lcd in a ceiling corner and a warm orange light for max comf.

I thought i could build a comfier ship if i delete that one. I was wrong, been trying to rebuild it ever since.

>>155363245
Shit, I wish. What happened to REM?

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>>155364105
It died

>>155364239
Fuck, how? They had a working engine already, right?

>>155364442
No idea, REManon has been silent for a while, I'm sure he'll be back. And yes, they had a working engine, that's why i think he'll be back

>>155342628
Because as some anon said here proprietary shit in proprietary shit in proprietary shit is very bad. And FPGAs are just that. And VHDL is kinda shitty, it does it's job but my mind will never get comfortable with it like I got with C and lua

>>155365527
Its true, but maybe 2 wrongs make 1 right... Ala carmack.
He was allways shady about how he did some of the stuff or "where is that code from?".
He is now being sued because he used a propierary device to develop new tech from it, and didnt "paid" to the owner, some tech behine both oculus and vive, might be the low latency imputs, i have no idea.

If you are going to do something serious, you better start with clean hands from day 1, and not having to deal with bullshit like that half way, or even after finnishing something like NMS and its superformula for procedual generation.
If its for fun, do as you feel.

>>155366849
Nah, it's a mandatory class. Later I have microprocessors which is assembly, pain and a single teacher option that teaches it and is a jack ass. But I hope I never get to use any of this shit again as I'm going into other EE areas. Digital circuits and logic is cool though.

>>155348430
Aparently not. Nick hasn't put PID control on heliblades, so you either use Lua, or you just use ACBs like the Stardust does

>>155367235
DoNT worry sooN NICK will NICK all NICKk in 1(one) NiicK

>>155367298
Unity not us they said
Nick will prove them wrong :^)

>>155367123
Then go resourcefull like this, he cant even hide his smug.

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>>155367651
Pic got lost somehow.

So much for the hightech individuals vs primitive savages dichotomy.
https://youtu.be/mscfPJ7czFE?t=37m57s

>>155363654
Smoll ship give you a way better feel, but Ced and everyone else on the server would get angry at my suprHD shitter grid. I think the blocks I generally use are from the xpar toiletries, the downside is that you cant actually enter the shower.

>>155370712

Largesmalls are the best thing ever, other than it craps out some people's shitass computers.

Smalllarges are a fun challenge to build but theyll never be the same level of comfy

>>155325492
Oh, I didn't know that.
I've heard about the AMD stuff before on /v/ it's pretty crazy. Good thing I went with Nvidia then.
It seems I made the right choice then, I was looking at an AMD rig before I decided to get this one.

>>155336595
That's a pretty ship.

>>155372342
I found it in pvp space, just floating around, no owner or anything.

So obviously I claimed it - it's a Small Vessel, it's absurd.

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>>155365527
you can write code in c
your compiler compiles c code for a target
your target could be your CPU
you need to write your CPU in VHDL
you need to write a C compiler for your CPU
you will be able to compile C code for your CPU
you will be complete

VHDL > C

don't ded on me

>>155377159
Don't tell me what to do.

>>155377525
die on me

>>155377568
no

https://youtu.be/rmGrtyzz05s

>>155377568
I SAID DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>155378132
Do whatever you chose to do and absolutely nothing else

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>>155378132
>>155379313
>NoNewPrivileges=True

S T O P I T
R E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E

>>155367235
>ACBs
can't be limited to specific heliblades as far as i know, i'd like to turn on the upwards going on spawn but not the forwards ones

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>>155374037

>>155380024
That's why there's a distance slider. If you set it at unlimited, all the heliblades will be afected

>>155380803
>there's a distance slider
thanks anon, i never noticed this.

>>155379409
>Stallman's face is egg shaped
What does it mean, /egg/?

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>>155380285
>this is what mythemagicians actually believe

>>155380894
it means he ate too many things from his foot

>>155380987
Don't worry about it, they're all being replaced by computing clusters. Everyone else is safe until computers learn creativity.

>how to be a post-nu-male
https://learn.adafruit.com/simple-led-unicorn-horn

How do I make a rotor that doesn't CLANG when I move on serb?

option1: safety lock override
option2: grab it with a landing gear / connector this looks pretty bad even in SP
option3: hope the shields stop CLANG
option4: mergeblock

The rotor will have a connector on the end and heavy ships will dock there, so I was thinking of a merge block to keep it steady and have the rotor only handle the rotation and then behave as static, but if the safety lock does the same without CLANG I'd prefer that.

>>155359524
I*'ll get back to you on that. Shame I can run SESE on the rented box, doe otherwise I could already enforce block limits/grid block count limits. And turn off/reduce unobserved grid calculation. Ugh. Keen, why.

>>155381205
>mathematicians getting replaced by computers
no, human computers(look it up) got replaced by computers

You've all seen the server slow to a crawl, you've all suffered from it one way or another. Today, while I was pondering that situation (again), I came up with a way to cleanse the game world without wiping, and also, introduce a couple more interesting elements.

Operation Exodus.

The game world will go through a four week cycle. The astronauts (and cosmonauts) on the serbian are nomadic survivors on the run from a catastrophe. Every month, they need to leave their current region behind and jump to a new one, aheead of the destructive wave behind them.

WEEK ONE:
Arriving in the new region, no meteors are noticable, no pirates are active. The region is, for all argumentative purposes, safe. A low density asteroid field is there for the pilfering, and there might be stellar bodies - a moon, a planet, and anything in between. Black holes not excluded from the list of possible entities.

WEEK TWO:
The vanguard of the catastrophe arrive, in the form of light meteor showers now and then. The sector is otherwise still relatively quiet.

WEEK THREE:
Meteor activity is ramped up, and becomes a serious problem. The scouts of a scavenging pirate fleet ride on ahead of the main fleet, looking to engage any targets of opportunity. Their ships are simple, but of various sizes.

WEEK FOUR:
The meteor showers reach apocalyptic proportions. Any ship not shielded and able to field considerable CIWS options will find itself overwhelmed. Smaller ships should be ready to dodge and hide in asteroids. Additionally, the main pirate fleet has arrived in the sector, actively seeking out nomads, producing combat drones, and attempting to kill and scavenge what they can find among the chaos.

cont.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWmjmTNUSjw
I sincerely don't want to be hype, but I can't help it. Someone, please get me out of this.

>>155382456
neat, makes me wanna try the spengie-online experience again.

what if, someone will be late and arrives in week four? will he stand a chance?

>>155382456

EXODUS:
After four weeks have elapsed, the sector is no longer sustainable for the nomads, and their journey goes on. For that purpose, each faction should build an Exodus ship. That ship should hold your production facilities, carry your materials and be able to produce ships from blueprints. Additionally, each faction can also designate one combat ship and one other ship of their choice (miner, constructor, your call) as exodus ships.

To do that, name the grid (K, info tab, bottom right corner) and not just the beacon/antenna EXODUS [FACTION TAG] [SHIPNAME]. For example, EXODUS WSA Pike Prowler.

A faction cannot have more exodus ships than members, and no more than three. If your faction is hust you, you will have one Exodus ship. If it's you and a buddy, two.

Each Exodus ship needs to have one Jump Drive named "Exodus Drive". K menu, find a jump drive, rename it. This bock will be destroyed at the jump, so you will need to replace it after the exodus jump.

Each Exodus jump means a fresh map, some exodus ships, new stellar bodies. You have a month per map before we softwipe as described again, with the increasing dangers escalating.
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This way, abandoned grids disappear, inactive players fall off the map, and we have the cumulative runaway effects in check. It also adds layers of difficulties, allowing for more diverse gameplay - more survival. I will look into reducing the yield of ores to ingots, reducing the cargo size of Earthbreakers, to make the survival portion a bit more testing than it is right now. Refinery efficiencies may also drop from 10x to 5x.

I apologise to all base fags and blaned dwellers. Consider this a hold-over mode until we have our own planet, and a box with SESE and more control over grids.

>>155382721
By my experience, a crafty captain can hop into a Sparky and seek shelter in an asteroid with a bit of dodge-fu. It will definately be a challenge, but not an impossible one. It might be advisable to ask for help.

>>155382939
For this purpose, weeks are considered to switch Friday/Saturday, with this Friday being the first. We will go from NORMAL meteors to the next heavier option. Please prepare for an Exodus Jump, as outlined above, in 10 days. To reiterate, on the 01.10.2016, all non-Exodus ships will be left behind and you will spawn into a fresh map, with only your Exodus ships left to spawn on.