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>General info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVhwsUFaDE
https://youtu.be/cji-L0hu1Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUsOpKnHtZY
https://youtu.be/aH0jj4NWFYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T20yqTukGPE
https://youtu.be/Wepgwx_9kto

>FF XII: The Zodiac Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81NsStczT8E
https://youtu.be/274X0SjKx8M

>World Of FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMey5SKKkc
https://youtu.be/_FdGg3KKIcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWdMrF0NWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqDJXQ9Uz3U

>FF XI
/ffg/ has a linkshell on Asura: "FearTheVoid"!
FFXI's September update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/51345
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FF XIV
Patch 3.4 on September 27th!
https://youtu.be/8JPfQb549Eo

>FF Record Keeper
Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
Upcoming Banners List: http://bantha.org/~dscotton/ffrk.html
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjUI0AwTAoBxuZlGQQZfaEQMnNt2bUdzm0gMZHXq4Cs/edit#gid=0
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/gGK2VYhe

>FF Brave Exvius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bhRtof5oOA
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

>Mobius FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ipfJv4Qp6g

>Justice Monsters V
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ785B_u6lc

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/cPCCGXNy

>Vayneposter Filter
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tsjzh

>>155154353
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Mobius is trash
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Your favorite FF is trash
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Kaiser Dragon is Artificial Difficulty: The Boss
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.
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>Wol is literally the only non-Core character to not have a Record Dive
Well that's weird. Are they saving it for a second Mobius collab or something?
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>>155248837
all rpgs are artificial difficulty. They're just increase of numbers rather than actual difficult content.
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>>155248837
So was Bartz.
Welcome to RK, home of the dumbest difficulty curves ever.
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Reminder that irrational hate for a fictional character is just as bad as irrational adoration.
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>>155249251
Bartz was ez. Just slap some Wall/Breakdowns/Protectga and it's walk in the park
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I remember reading somewhere that we might get type-0 before lightning. I think I was drunk watching that Asian guy spend 300 dollar on chizuru during this FB banner and he said it.
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>>155249374
Yeah it's easy man all you gotta do is just reset a hundred times until it lets you do that.
What's the problem?
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>>155249473
took me literally one s/l
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>>155249520
And I got a Chizuru on my very first BE pull, what's your point?
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>>155249473
>reset a hundred times
It only took me 1 s/l because I forgot to reapply SG before Four Radiance
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>>155249374
You are full of bullshit. He has like a 99% chance to kick as his first two moves.

>>155249316
>Every person who strongly dislikes a character dislikes them irrationally
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>>155249717
and you can get a breakdown, protectga and wall out before his second kick
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>>155249374
This. Only got one kick in (which I don't believe was all that powerful) then my wall and protectga was up. Mastered it on my first try.
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>>155249805
Yeah, if all three of those units started out above half on their ATB.
Even then, odds are he kicks again before most of that goes out or you still lose characters anyways.
Stop making shit up already.
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>>155249892
>stop making shit up aready
>counters with hypothetical situations of his own
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>>155249892
I'm not making shit up- There's no point to lying on the internet. I even did that shit as a cid mission. Quit crying about your bad atb rng.
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>>155249805
I did that myself and even with that the second kick killed two characters. I think you really need armor synergy or something to hang on there.
Only took me 3 tries to master though because I got lucky and he used a regular attack once.
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>>155249973
>hypothetical
This screams "I didn't even attempt the fight, I'm just going to shit on the fire"
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>>155250154
Maybe. My V synergy is probably my best. But after I applied all the usual mitigation shit those kicks were only doing 200~500 damage.
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>>155250158
I'm nowhere near the level of attempting U's you're right, but you're still just countering everything he says about getting good atb with saying that you got bad atb
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>>155248723
You're being as childish and idiotic as the disgusting Lightningfags in the thread. I dislike the character (a lot) probably more than I dislike the useless faggot Vaan, but that won't keep me from using those solid units. They didn't kill my parents and pillaged my lands.
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>>155250276
The point they're making is that you're much more likely to NOT get the atb you need.
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>>155249708
Shit, I see. I hope we get a % revealed at some point for some peace of mind. It, for some reason, brings me comfort to just know which method it is. I didn't know people got Extra Skills on consecutive battles on the same card. Thanks.
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>>155249039
Why does it matter? He's a bit of a cool character, but isn't he pretty shit as a unit?
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>>155250276
He starts out by doing kick, hits everyone for a metric fuck ton of damage. His next attack is an incredibly high chance of kicking again.
He's incredibly fast, hits incredibly hard, to use wall you'd need the character using it to START at nearly full ATB to get off wall before his second attack. Not to mention he can counter physical, so that breakdown could get a lower HP character killed before he even does his second kick.
Add onto the fact that people have shown that his AI is fucked up and it's a huge RNG shitfest to even get past the first round of combat.
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>>155250658
His whole thing is that he's got a lot of skills but most of them are low leveled (like 3* Combat, what a loser).
Guess what Record Dive can and often does fix?

>>155250692
He can use Attack for his first move too, he did for me on the attempt that I mastered.
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FFBE

http://www.strawpoll.me/11263023
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>>155250801
Hey you're right. I left the game for a long time and dive was already in when I came back so I just gave it a cursory glance and all I was meek ass stat increases in the few I checked but I had heard beforehand they unlocked skills for some. You're right, could help his sorry ass.
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>>155248612
Krile a cute, A CUTE!
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>>155251038
>there are people in this thread that DIDN'T roll Sheepsong
nerds
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>>155251038
YOU HAVEN'T FIXED THE LOOP
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>>155250801
He can, but it's a stupidly low chance from my experience.
How low I'm unsure, since I gave up after around 25-30 times, but he started with kick on every single try. At least two of those he countered my breakdown and both hits landed on Faris, killing her.
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>>155251141
He has about a 10% chance to Attack on either of his first two turns.
Reddit datamines for this kind of thing, you know.
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>>155251338
>going to reddit
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>>155250962
to the one person so far who said it's fine the way it is
do you macro?
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330th eternal reminder that Terra is best girl
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>>155251414
They're the ones with the numbers, the things you kind of need to know before you start an argument about RNG.
Just saying.
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>>155250692
>>155249892
You can get a SB off before he uses another Kick. Or at least not die from it and get something up next turn or from a low ATB character.
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>>155251338
It's supposed to be a lot higher, is the thing.
Double kick is bullshit no matter the comp. Even a party perfectly geared for it is going to be reeling after that when the first one is 100% going to hit you unmitigated.
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>6* lightning has 207 BASE attack and innate dual wield along with a ton of elemental attacks

H-holy shit, you guys weren't kidding
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>>155251721
>It's supposed to be a lot higher, is the thing
I know, it's "supposed" to be 100%. They just forgot to lock off the Kick like they did for the other moves. Kinda stupid that they didn't change it even though they already knew it was an issue from JP.
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>>155251461
why is that moogle so close to terras breast? is she going to breastfeed that moogle for some of its delicious kupo nut milk?
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>>155251740
And within a couple months she'll be outclassed anyways, by easier to pull characters at that, not to mention upcoming 6* upgrades being moderately comparable.
Whaling for her is pointless, but she is still going to be where the devs get a huge influx of cash.
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They better give 6* Zidane innate dual wield along with aoe mug barrage
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>>155251740
did you really doubt the power of a goddess?
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>>155251992
>responding to shitposting
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>>155251527
The fight you're complaining about can be solo'd.
Get good nerd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXqwBEirRt4
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>>155251461
Terra's character kind of bugged me in Dissidia. Yeah, I know Locke came to her rescue in FF6, but she's a little too much of a damsel in distress in it. Part of my problem might have been that the Onion Knight was the one to save her, though. It didn't bug me nearly as much when Vaan took over saving her in Duodecim, even though I never played XII or had any reason to give a crap about him.
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>>155252286
>Whale geared Gil with a powerful friend
I'm not saying it isn't cool, but you realize they probably had to restart dozens of times to do it, right?
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>>155252028
>by easier to pull characters at that
I agree that she won't be the absolute best in the game after a while but this right here is just false.
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Do I earn anything out of clearing every single encounter in a chapter in Mobius?
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>>155252028
Her biggest competition is Luneth, who has almost 100 more attack over her but who requires a turn to buff and has significantly worse area attack and defense. Then there's Orlandu, who has 282 base attack and incredible single target attacks, but no dual wield. Gilgamesh gets like 250 base if you put a katana on him and pretty good single target potential, but no dual wield.

Luneth is the only real competition here, but they're all base 5* units. He has way more raw attack and single target damage, but worse defenses, no elemental attacks and doesn't chain as easily (lightning hits 5 times). It's debatable for sure, he's top tier too.
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>>155252867
>and has significantly worse area attack
He's got the exact same area attack anon, Lightning just has the advantage of having elements to choose from while Luneth is stuck with his weapon's element (still not a bad thing)
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>>155252867
>but they're all base 5* units.
The most important point right there. Doesn't seem like they are even any easier to pull at all.
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>>155252915
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>>155252867
>worse defenses
He's got more HP and DEF than Lightning, what are you on about? They're pretty much even defensively, you're literally making things up at this point.
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>>155252721
Yeah, you do. It's only like a phoenix down or crystals, but still worth doing at some point.
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>>155253143
I keep thinking that Zell did squats in FF8. Am I thinking of something else?
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>>155252867
Luneth has the same AoE skill as Lightning does, just with a different name. And that of course is with his higher ATK.
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>>155253143
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>>155253345
Pretty sure Zell's thing was shadowboxing.
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>>155253280
Fuck that, I'm going back to the Chocobos. I have more crystal than I could possibly want.
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>>155253506
Probably, it's been many years since I last replayed that.
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>>155253345
Zell just threw bread at you.
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>>155252681
> this right here is just false
Could have sworn one of the really good 6*s was a 4* base, but maybe I'm wrong there.
Worst case, there are banners with comparable characters and multiple of them means an overall better chance of pulling something good.
Even then, there are a number of non-5* base characters available right now that, while not as good, can still hold up really well at that point.
Too many people make her out as some sort of super unit that you'll require to do things when she really isn't. Unless you really like her, it's not worth wasting too much lapis on. (For her original banner anyways, maybe later banners with her and other good units would be worth it)

>>155252867
Considering how much of this was called out, the only real benefit she seems to have is innate dual wield.
Honestly, with how many unique events global has given, I wouldn't be too surprised if there was a chance at certain good abilities like that without TM farming down the line.

>>155253345
>>155253506
Typically shadowboxing, but I recall him doing squats at least once.
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>>155253345
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>>155252867
Luneth also has the better 6* passive, at least in my opinion. He's immune to all status ailments that stop him from ripping things apart (Petrify, Paralyze, Blind, Confuse).
Lightning's gives her 30% evasion against physical attacks.

>>155253668
>Could have sworn one of the really good 6*s was a 4* base, but maybe I'm wrong there
There are a couple like Tilith and Refia, but none of the actual physical attackers that match or beat Lightning (and would thus outclass her) are 4* base or lower.
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>>155253454
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>>155253926
A new level of autism. Congrats.
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>>155253926
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>>155250318
Eh. I feel the same way about Kuja and Beatrix. And I fed my kujas to other characters. I really, really like rats.
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>>155253751
>"Hey. Settle down."
>"They gave me some new Materia, I can't wait to use it!"
>"Just like a Chicken-Wuss..."
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>>155253668
>I wouldn't be too surprised if there was a chance at certain good abilities like that without TM farming down the line
Considering how much they neutered our odds of getting Zidane, I think they know how good Dual Wield is and they probably won't be as generous as you think.
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>>155254074
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>>155253856
>There are a couple like Tilith and Refia
Ah.
That does bring up something, I hope they start working with mage units soon.

>>155254282
True, but they have been giving us a lot of really good gear and other stuff.
I mean, we're up to what, 6-7 global exclusive pieces of gear where a chunk of it is going to be useful for months on end?
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>>155253345
He does pushups in one scene in Galbadia Garden IIRC
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>>155254501
>I hope they start working with mage units soon
There's Exdeath and he's base 3* to boot.
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>>155254513
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>Doing a fuckton of Chocopocalypse
>Decides to finally finish Chapter 2 to get the cap boost to not let the huge EXP go to waste
>Comes back, stage I've been farming for the whole event kicks my shit

What the fuck happened, just finishing chapter two increased difficulty?!
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>>155254614
I mean when you look at potential.
Exdeath and Kefka both are pretty good as mages, but their top potential isn't anywhere close to what physical characters can achieve.
I do hope we get a banner with Exdeath on it soon though, I'd like a chance at both him and Bartz.
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>>155254639
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>>155249251

You can prep/spam defend for Bartz. Kaiser Dragon can decide to not shift to lightning/water until 5+ shifts later. That eats up buff time.
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>>155255003
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>>155252721
Yeah, check the achievements in etc to know exactly what
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>>155255790
>>155253280
>A fucking Crystal
Wow. Amazing. Well, I got my answer at least. Thank you both.
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>>155258612
>>155258741
>>155258865
>>155258892
I forget, was it FFV where moogles were first introduced?
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>>155258998
3 i think
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>>155258998
3.
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>Want to farm more LoP Pro for ore
>Also want to farm some BGN for lumber
>Feeling too lazy
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>>155260584
get Cavern Ore first. You can get lumber out of the event
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>>155261065
The ore doesn't take long, I've only run it a few times and already almost have enough for one.
And BGN is really good for lumber.
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>>155261659
Well, if you're done with the ore, sure yeah go for lumber. That's probably for the better.
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>>155251461
go to bed
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What in the actual fucking flying motherfucking fuck, I just heard the MGS "!" sounds and my FFX crashed as soon as it played, I was in the Luca bar about to get the world champion.
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>>155254695
The event difficulty scales with your player level, same with pupus.
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>>155253036
Incorrect. Lightning has a 200% electric AoE, Luneth just has a 180% AoE. Lightning can lower an enemy's lightning resistance by 50%, so her area abilities are definitely better. Not to mention her other elementals.

>>155253246
He has 10 more health and 1 more defense, but his defense lowers by 30% when he uses Advance (which he really needs to do). He's definitely weaker against physical attacks.

>>155253385
Incorrect, see above.

>>155253668
Actually, Luneth has innate dual wield too.
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>>155254074
All NPC's ever do in that game is squat.
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What's your favorite FF spinoff
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>>155262758
>Actually, Luneth has innate dual wield too.
That just makes me want Luneth more, especially since FF3 is one of my favorites.
Getting a full FF3 party would be awesome.
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>>155263092
Chocobo Tales
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>>155263105
I haven't played III but I like Luneth too. He was pretty cool in Dissidia
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>>155254513
>>155254639
>>155255003
>>155255372
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>>155263092
It's spoiler
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PICK MY MAIN CREW

I'm thinking of going with the following:

Chizuru
Vaan
Lenna
Kefka
CoD or Amarant
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>>155262758
>when he uses Advance (which he really needs to do)
He doesn't, though. Well he can, but even without it he beats Lightning in damage thanks to his two +ATK passives.
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I preordered World of FF for the Vita from a nearby gamestop. Do I have to preorder it from the Square Enix site in order to get that juicy preorder dlc, or will gamestop be able to deliver for me?
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>>155254513
>>155254639
>>155255003
>>155255372
>>155263264

This cast is so fucking dull.
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>>155263432
and what's a good cast?
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>>155263432
let them eat anon
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>>155263290
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>>155263550
I think he means the design in which case I kinda agree
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>>155263290
Yeah, go with that. But use CoD, not Amarant.
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>>155261760
Terra gonna get the BFA.
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>>155263651

>using CoD when he already has Chiz Wiz
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>>155263773
He's got Cheer, why not use two Barrage spammers to take advantage of that?
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>>155263432
you're dull.
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>>155263773
this>>155263852 desu. FB and 2 Barrage is bretty gud.
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>>155263773

Amarant is shit. Also >>155263852
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>>155263773
how is this Chizuru? It looks nothing like her sprite
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>>155263398
Lightning has 207 attack. If Luneth doesn't use Advance and has a sword equipped, he has 227. Advance puts him at over 300. You should probably use Advance if you have a Luneth. If he doesn't have a sword equipped, Lightning beats him.
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>>155263852
>>155263959
>>155263971

Okay, so who should I give which Esper?

Chiz - Ifrit
Vaan - Shiva
CoD - Golem
Lenna - Siren
Kefka - Ramuh
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>>155264279
>If he doesn't have a sword equipped, Lightning beats him
He has 1 more ATK even without that Sword passive, though.

>>155264318
Yeah, that.
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despair general, despair fantasy
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>>155264396
Lightning has 145 +10% +30% attack, or 207
Luneth has 146 +30%, or 189

I think the issue here is you're not counting Lightning's unique ability materia
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>>155264035
yeah i don't know why he posted that
this kind of doesn't look like her either
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>>155264468

Let me show you dis pear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvk_PgJA5QM
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>>155264541
Not that guy, but what's that? Unique materia?
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>>155264035
>>155264595

It's fanart based on what people think she looks like and http://hakuouki.wikia.com/wiki/Chizuru_Yukimura
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I didn't play the mogcake event. Would buying the bundles benefit me in any way?
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>>155264784
not at this point
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>>155264784
The mogcake bundles? God, no. You can't farm for materials anymore, don't touch them.
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>>155264279
>If he doesn't have a sword equipped
For what purpose would you NOT have a sword equipped?
That's like getting Blade Mastery from Chizuru, equipping it, and not using a Katana.
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>>155264784
>buying the bundles

nigga are you fucking stupid
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>>155264979
All I know about the event is that people were going crazy about it. I reinstalled ut a couple of days ago and I'm not doing any BE events after I saw the gravity rod event
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>>155264318
Give Vaan Golem instead.
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>>155264468
This isn't Dangan Ronpa though. Nothing but hope here.
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>>155264709
Yeah, an ability only she can equip. It gives her +10% attack/magic. She also has another unique magic attack that does 210% lightning damage and reduces lightning defense by 50%

>>155264976
I dunno, just saying it's a possibility. That's also another thing she's better at. She can equip everything that Luneth can, but also spears, bows and guns.
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>>155265164
All of BE is just grinding. If the magic rod turned you to uninstall, there will be nothing in the future for you.
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>>155265839
>bows
That's useless for DW and seeing that DW is one of the biggest reason you want them, you'll stick with swords anyway.
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>>155265617

Why?
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>>155266029
Just saying, Lightning has more of an equipment selection even though it rarely matters. If some kickass gun comes out later, she'll get an edge that Luneth won't.
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>>155265839
>but also spears, bows and guns
One of those can't be dual wielded and the other two are shit.
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>>155266091
Make Vaan your Full Breaker and tank with Golem provoke.
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>>155266214
not him but that's a pretty big attack loss for CoD isn't it?
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>want to play Mobius to escape the MMO shit in Final Fantasy
>resused Golems and Treeants from XIV
who's ass do I gotta beat?
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>>155266318
About 10 points I guess, but Vaan won't do anything else after he FB the boss for 3 turns aside for occasional Focus if you really need it. Might as well make him his damage soak, he has the def and HP for it.
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>>155265884
There's still the gacha. some of the sprites look kinda nice too.
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>>155263432
>not liking their rad puns
Your face is dull.
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>>155266347
how do you recognize the models if you hate mmos so much, dumb frogposter?
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>>155265716
>Nothing but hope here.
No Anon, I'm playing X and it's all misery, death, loathing and the last hope literally died.
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>>155263645
Not really an issue, considering there are alternate outfits.
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>>155266531
>some of the sprites look nice
literally made me lol m8
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>>155268407
Some of the basic 3* sprites are pretty good, the upgrades go fucking crazy
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>>155268529
Only the ones that don't have faces.

So exdeath, golbez.

Garland

uh

That's all.
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>decide its time to pick up FF7 again
>PS2 boots up clean
>controller still works
>memory cards still hold
Whew. So my post-midgar team.

Barret is guaranteed because for some reason I want an elemental gunner, little if any strength lowering materia. pretty sure summons do not reduce strength
Debating on Tifa or Yuffie.

On one hand, titties. on the other hand, a very very useful limit break. one that can be attained quickly via enemy skill materia

wat do?
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>>155269465
Just rotate party members every so often, thats what I do in every jrpg that allows for it
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>>155269465
Tifa is pretty shit in gameplay and her optional convos are boring. Take Yuffie.
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>>155269465
Yuffie, easily.
She's cute, entertaining, and better.
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>>155269465
Tifa is cute and canon, take her.
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>>155269127
>Only the ones that don't have faces.
?
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Holy shit Teedus, just drop your RMs already
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>>155254580
He does. Starts doing them super fast when Squall catches him getting distracted by a passing girl in a skirt.
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>>155271783
I refuse.
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>>155271783
>tfw got his last RM after one battle
You can do it champ
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>>155271845
Please

>>155271845
I've been grinding since yesterday and still no RMs in sight
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>>155271813
Is Zell a virgin?
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>>155272058
Considering Balamb Garden probably has certain rules about student interactions he probably is
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>>155272058
Yes, but not by the end of the game
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>>155272025
See you in 3 months.
>>
7 minutes until I draw another Sabin
who else excited
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>>155272235
Dammit. I just want the RM already so I can do those Nightmare Dungeons
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WHO /PULLWITHME/ HERE?
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>>155272627
WOOOOOOOOO
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>>155272627
Vivi.
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>>155272627
Nope, only character on the banner I'm missing is Chizuru and I don't care to pull for her.
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>>155272627
Well last pull with me for a while senpai
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>>155272627
Rydia.
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>>155272627
>got chizuru
reminder to always pull with anons
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>>155272627
4* shantotto
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>>155272627
ME

ME WEBMFAG AM PULL WITH YOU HERE

christ it's just what I wanted I'm crying
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>>155273037
And he's the only one I am pulling for. Am I doomed to have bad daily luck in exchange for good 11 pull luck?
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>>155273125
All I know is this banner has been good to me.

I don't even know what to put in my team anymore I have so many options now.
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>>155272627
2nd Sabin and beyond mad

I've got 26 tickets anyone want to /pullwithmeagain/
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>>155273215
>First three days I pull CoD, Kefka, CoD
That's why I didn't pull yesterday and don't intend to today.
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>>155273037
spoiler alert, kefka is kind of shitty
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>>155273215
The Daily rolls usually suck for me. Best that I've gotten is Locke/Celes from when their banner was up. Usually the good summons happens whenever I spend seven summon tickets or use the 5000 roll option happens.

But I have Cecil/Exdeath/CoD/WoL/Chizuru/Firion/Terra/Zidane so I am happy. I only want Bartz/Vaan/Garland/Kuja for more future future-proof units.
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>>155273432
Maybe 4 or so months from now on, but currently? He's one of the best you can get.
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>>155273432
Yeah he doesn't even immediately go in my A-team, but still nice to have.
Still trying to talk myself out of swapping out Exdeath for him.


He also officially completes my roster of guaranteed future 6*s, so I'm set for future proofedness.
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That's quite a lot.

Shame all I'm using cash these days is alcrysts and character fusions. A more reasonable game would probably let me trade around 10k for 100 lapis or something, but a more reasonable game would also not be a mobile cash grab.

I really can't wait for WoFF to come out so I can finally remember what's it like to play an actual Final Fantasy game again and lay down these FF-themed pachinko machines for a while.
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So I have a huge excess in mogcakes after buying literally everything else.

Should I get MP+20% or HP+15%?

I already have two of the latter.
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>>155274015
HP I guess.
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>>155273969
I just sold two stacks of 9999 paste. gave me about 500k.

Gil is gonna be super important for ability awakenings. Save what you can now.
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>>155274015
>literally everything else
Did you really get the 10 burst pots?
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>>155274015
hp
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>>155273969
>A more reasonable game would probably let me trade around 10k for 100 lapis
That's really unreasonable.
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>everyone shits their pants over the mogcake trust moogle
>the login reward for the end of the month is a free one

Heh, glad I didn't fall for that and spent my cakes more wisely.
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>>155274118
Fuck that noise in the anus, I have CoD. I can macro limits faster than that now (the ones that matter at least).

>>155274124
>>155274067
Yeah that's what I was leaning towards. Thanks.
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Based 1/2 price drop.

I already have her though. Should I fuse her or have a 2nd Chizuru? Already have a second Barrage character with CoD.
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>>155274229
Nigga WHAT else am I gonna spend these 100,000 cakes on if not the moogle.

Now I get two.
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>>155274273
Farm her TM.
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>>155274273
Having a third can't hurt, she's TOP MILF.

It isn't worth the XP or 5% trust to fuse her, she'll be great anywhere.
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>>155272172
It does. If you read the Garden rules in FFVIII, it states that promiscuity is prohibited.
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>>155274273

fuse for trust

no point having 2 if you already have another character with barage
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>>155274273
>should I use two of the best physical attacker on my team

Gee, I dunno.
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>>155274458
>>155274317
Don't listen to these dinguses, you're throwing away a top tier 6* physical attacker for the chance to cut a little time off a grind for a lackluster reward (blade mastery ain't even that good).

You'll need all the firepower you can get later on down the road.
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>>155274487

I'm >>155263290

I'll keep her for now, while I level up other characters who are 3*.
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>>155274382
>>155272172
Found the exact wording. The Gardens are actually pretty strict when it comes to sex.
>Take time to think things through before starting a relationship.
>(Dormitory) Going out after-hours for reasons other than training is prohibited.
>Students who engage in violent acts, sexual promiscuity, or who fall behind in their curriculum, etc. may be expelled from Garden.
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>>155274563
wut, I said farm her TM, not fuse her.
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>brought the wrong team to PRO
Fuck me.
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>roll on the rare banner for kicks
>Locke

Another joins the earth temple slave camp
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>>155274630
Well I can't see how anybody could've misinterpreted that.

He asked if he should fuse for TM or keep her, and you responded "TM."
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>30 yellow megacytes only brought Ramuh up four levels
BE is grindy

GRINDY
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>>155273969
>10k for 100 lapis
(You)
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>>155272627
After 5 days finally CoD!
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>>155273969
I would imagine that near the end of Exvius' lifecycle we would get that.

>>155274746
I did just that. Ended up bringing an undergeared Terra and Cecil to the PRO exploration and still defeated it, though having to mostly auto the Amoeba boss except when reestablishing Full Break sucked hard. At least I am 3 out of 5 Shining Splendors in terms of Cavern Ore now. I should be able to make 5 by the end of today.
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>>155275503
Call of Duty: Infinite Green Tits
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Finally got all of Tidus' RMs
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>when that Cosmo Canyon theme hits for the first time
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Will Barret talk like nigger in the remake?
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>>155275508
Why make five?

It's the fourth best non-TM sword in the game counting all JP updates, so you would have to have two dual wield units that can't use any other weapons to use even ONE.

To use five, you'd need 3 Dual Wield units with nothing better to equip than swords, which is a very strange situation to be in.
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>>155276657
Not unless they go for an extremely liberal translation. He talks pretty normally in the Jap version, kind of similar to Gladio in XV.
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>>155276934
I want to gear up Firion/Rain/Lass/Cecil/Zidane so that I have some decent gear on them. And since I have one Zidane, that means a future dual wielder. And I use Rain and Lass and Fina for only storyline content so not having to strip my better units to go storyline makes things a lot faster. Optional content will be handled by my team of 2 Chizus/CoD/WoL/Cecil/Terra/Firion/Exdeath when they get their 6* forms in global and whenever Zidane gets his 6* form announced eventually.
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>All these people doing nice pulls
>Fuck it, I'll pull and see, maybe I'll pull Exdeath or something
>Get this
I mean, it's something I hadn't pulled before and that TM could potentially be of mild use down the line?
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I mean I know "technically" this is lucky but I'm not looking forward to raising all of these
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>>155278217
Actually CoD is great to raise dupes of, you barely have to worry about equipment at all.

Just lots of levels and you're done.
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>>155278217
>5
>Not 4 with a Lenna or Fina
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>>155278217
all that green tiddy
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>>155278347
Need to raise her too, yeah.
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>>155278304
I'd say 3 CoDs since 5 is too excessive and you want to fit room on there for a healer and a full breaker. 2 if you want to fit in a tank in there since CoD while having great resistances doesn't have the best armor selection.
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>>155278436
Man, I feel cool having two, but the balance in me won't allow for anyone in my party to be replaced to have both around.
>>
What a ded thred.
>>
These pro bosses kind of suck, it feels like they took normal bosses and just quadrupled their health and defenses
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>>155278736
>the balance in me

CoD would be proud anon.
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>>155280206
They're really, really easy though. You can do them in like 5 or 6 turns each.

The only part that makes it hard is that you have no MP from the blob fight, but that's what ethers/tents are for.
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>>155280451
He didn't say they were hard, just that they were annoying.
The blob saps your MP like an asshole and the other two are just durable with the ogre being able to mass blind, causing you to waste more time.
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>>155278736
I have two Chiz and I won't replace anyone to put her in. It seems wrong to have multiples of the same unit.
>>
What'd you guys think of Kingsglaive? Personally, I loved it. I know it's a bad movie, but, it was made for FF fans, and, that's why I enjoyed it.
>>
>>155280451
>>155280556
I hope you guys know that the Blob only uses Osmose when you use magic
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>>155278736
>>155280579
>tfw I actually not alone
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>>155280763
what the fuck

that's even more annoying now
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>>155280763
No wonder I actually have never been osmose'd.
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>>155280848
Not really, I just Cheer Barrage spam it. Then after the fight with the hill giant I just use tent
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>>155280920
Well if you're gonna use a tent anyway then what's the point. Why not use it right after the blob?
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>>155280848
How so? Unless you run full mage team with no Kefka I guess.
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>>155280965
Because if you've never been osmose'd there is no point to use it? It always died in the second turn and my team always have more than enough MP to kill Hill Gigas as is.
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>>155280965
Because you can only bring 1 tent and you need all the MP you can use when fighting ogre
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> beat Gilgamesh trial first try
> mfw

A shame that i missed the LB finish by a hair, but I'm gonna do later when I'll try the 5 man clear.

At least my Gilgamesh will put the 107 attack katana to good use.
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>>155280613
it was shit and the pandering didnt help
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Who shall I Awaken next?

4*Celes
4*Terra
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>>155281171
Best girl.
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>>155281071
Damn anon, I don't even have enough stamina to tackle it yet, so far stuck grinding materials to awaken my characters
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>>155281171
4* WoL/Kefka/Lenna/CoD/Chizuru
It actually depends on what your team really needs
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>>155274616

>promiscuity

So it's fine if they're engaged at least?
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>>155281057
Not really, I always refresh after the blob.

Now that I know I don't need to lose any MP, I won't even do that anymore.

>>155281050
Right, except he literally said he uses it. Did you read his post?
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>>155281130
>pandering
What happened?
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>>155281216

I have 5* ExDeath & Kefka, and a 4*Leo besides my girls.
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>>155281352
Celes for that sweet focus
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>>155281301
>Right, except he literally said he uses it. Did you read his post?
Yes?

You asked why use not use it after the blob, and I said there is no need if you don't get osmose'd. I don't get what you're trying to say here.
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>>155281482
Why use it at all is my main point.

You don't need to recover MP in between the Gigas and the Ogre. You can do both in one go.
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>>155281559
>You don't need to recover MP in between the Gigas and the Ogre
Not true, if you use Kefka(s) and/or can't be arsed to micromanage MP use, you'd want to use tent after the Hill Gigas.
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>>155281283
Most students are underage (they have to pass the SeeD exam or get out when they're 20), so chances are that there are no engaged students.
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>>155280613
The best FF movie we ever got.
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>>155282183
But what about Spirit Within
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TOP 5 SOUL BREAKS?
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>>155281283
>(Dormitory) Going out after-hours for reasons other than training is prohibited.
Apparently not, unless they fuck during the day.
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Who in my party should I focus on awakening first? Anyone I should swap out? When does equipment get better?
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>>155282768
CoD is toppest priority because damage is the most important thing. Once she gets Barrage, do WoL.

Then Garland.
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>>155282768
CoD > Garland > WoL
Damage should be priority. No your team is solid so don't worry too much about it. Equipment gets better once your beat the story and start beating the trial bosses.
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>>155282405

My favorites are as follows.

SS II / SG

Shout

Aetherial Pulse / Keeper's Tome

Apocalypse Shield

Portrait of Lakshmi

Don't really rely too much on offensive SBs or Burst Modes.
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>>155282405
Super or Bursts?
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>>155283732

Super
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Is farming for green megacites in phantom forest seriously the best way to grind esper levels? It's so fucking slow and I want Provoke.
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>>155283732
Overflow
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>>155283750
sorry for the small pic, the only way I could fit them all in
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>>155283791
Yes, it's more than three times more efficient than anywhere else.

It's even more efficient than the dedicated Chamber of Crystals. It's STILL the most efficient place in JP.
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>>155283812
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>>155283890
Fucking hell.

7 levels to go I guess.
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>>155283791
It is, now get your ass back to forest... kupo!
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>>155283732
Burst
>>
seymour flux can choke on a dick
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>>155263550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU3el-Kk8Fw
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>>155284835
Which seymour fight was that one? The names escape me and I just remember them based on how they appear
>>
We back lads?
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>>155287425
it's the third one, in gagazet
he gets a SWEET RIDE and does a zombie/full life combo
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>>155284835
i want to choke on seymour's seymour
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>>155287495
Right, I remember, that one is probably the hardest.
>>
>use Summon Eidolon II just for the hell of it
>it's just the Shiva summon
>exact animations and shit
>except it only hits once

Well... the Ice Whip can still buff up Blizzaja and Chain Blizzaga, I guess?
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>>155288104
Yeah, it actually holds up decently as a stat stick because of the elemental buff.
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>>155287595
The Expert sphere board makes every boss a cakewalk. Black Mage Yuna + Auron Path Tidus and Wakka = infinite max damage hits.
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>>155273037
>tfw you only want Fencer...
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>>155288298
>mfw I only want CoD
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>>155288298
You know Fencer is gone forever, right?
>>
Currently have Mist Overload as my RW. Get sometimes no summons and sometimes 10ish, should I change it to Shout or Will of the White Mage?
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>>155283198
>tfw got shout early in the buff banner but blanked on every other draw in trying to get wall/apoc shield

suffering...
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>>155288940
People are probably following you for that RW, don't change it unless you have a nice instrument to give Ramza.
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>>155283985
do OSBs do anything special outside of dank damage numbers?
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>>155288940
Anyone who is currently following you is an idiot and whatever followers you might lose you'll gain back in no time. Mist Overload is a really shitty RW. Both Shout and Will of the White Mage are a lot better.
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>>155289010
>suffering...
Yeah, no. You have Shout. Lots of people can't get any of that stuff.
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>>155288406
Seriously, pink is such a stupid color. I'd have been fine with black, I'd rather they bleed oil than candy syrup.
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>>155288298
Start playing JP then, they give you fuckton of lapis and Fencer and the other two fags are back in the gacha, and no, they didnt get 6*
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>>155289090
Not really, but depends on the OSB, tyro for example buffs all stats by 15%, WoL gets higher damage the more he's hit, Gil hits harder if everyone is alive, things like that
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>>155289220
Has it already been confirmed that no upgrade nor new units? I though they just announced that it would come back on twitter because of the PAD collab so I am still hoping they will make something with them.
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>>155288624
No need to rub it in...
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>>155278436

We're gonna need lot of heroes to save that princess.
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>>155289781
No, the only news regarding them was that they are back, they aren;t getting buffed in any way, they dont get 6* and they don't get included in ability upgrade system
All 3 of them are and will be shit
>>
So how many shining splendours are you guys making? I think just one is the limit for my sanity.
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>>155290128
I might get enough cavern ores for two.
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>>155288261
>not stacking strength on yuna
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>>155290128
I have enough for two. I can take my time making them.
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>>155284835
>>155287495
>gagazet fight

HNNNNNGH i just got some flashbacks of my first time through FFX. fuck that shit man

>>155288261
is that why shit felt so much easier on the remaster?
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>>155289117
>>155289034
Most of my followers are shitty judgment grimoire tyros anyway, whatever. I can only get Ramza up to 139 MND right now so I made it Minwu. Threw it in the googledoc too if anybody wants
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>>155280579
This is the #2 reason why I despise Exvius. It's so turbo cancer that you can have multiples of a character in a team.
>>
For those playing Justice Monsters Five, I finally found a use for Oricalchum!

I raised my Bahamut's attack to Lv. 14, and for the next level the requirements are 15 fire shards, 3 fire stones, and 1 oricalchum chip.

So its not useless, its just for very high level stat boosts.

FYI.
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>Defend magic
I really hope they didn't mean the command "Defend" here, but it's what it sounds like here.
>>
What level should you be for the Final Boss in FF V? Everything's been relatively easy up until now but he pretty much oneshots my party with meteor.

My party is level 37-38.
>>
>>155292597
You can use Mix to raise your HP to survive Meteor. You should do fine if you minmax a little with your characters.
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>>155290472
That's for post-game.
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>>155292326
I forgot the game exists
>>
What are your favorite RWs /ffg/? bonus point for obscure ones that helped you get out of a sticky situation.
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>>155284835
>Not just giving him a face full of MEGA FLARE
>>
I don't think I've ever beaten Neo Exdeath without using a party full of freelancers with every class mastered, i love killing movers so much
>>
>>155293804

idk it's still pretty fun to me. And in early October they are doing a colab with Kingsglaive characters. Hopefully they put Knights of the Round or Ultros in the gatcha
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>>155293530
Managed to beat him, he only seemed to use meteor when I had everyone shelled - dunno if I was just lucky or that was an actual part of the fight
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>>155294281
>Banish
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>>155295073
Whoa, you get banished after removing 70% of it's HP if you already had it charged/grand summon it.
And then you can just do the same again on next turn Yuna get with Shiva.

I literally did just that, Mega Flare > Diamond Dust. After the chilling cold phased out, Flux was nothing but pyreflies.
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25/09 - Record Cross Chamber of Trials and Hall of Transcendence opens
Ultros Selection
Mythril Present dungeon begins
2nd anniv Fest begins
King of Darkness MO battle opens

>King of Darkness
>datamined images include Dr.Mog with shadow aura
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>>155295631
Does he get harder the more unspent Mythril you have?
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>>155295778
I'd assume that won't be any issue considering how many banners will be up
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>>155295631

>Ultros selecion

Does this only have female character relics?
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>>155296443
I saw this comment on reddit too, there's no info on it right now but if I had to guess, because it's a "selection" banner, it will include some of the most voted SB's
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>>155296443
Serah (I), Echo (I), Matoya (I), Maria (II), Leila (II), Arc (III), Refia (III), Rosa (IV), Rydia (IV), Porom (IV), Lenna (V), Faris (V), Krile (V), Terra (VI), Celes (VI), Relm (VI), Aerith (VII), Tifa (VII), Yuffie (VII), Rinoa (VIII), Quistis (VIII), Selphie (VIII), Edea (VIII), Fujin (VIII), Garnet (IX), Eiko (IX), Freya (IX), Beatrix (IX), Yuna (X), Lulu (X), Rikku (X), Paine (X), Shantotto (XI), Ayame (XI), Curilla (XI), Ashe (XII), Fran (XII), Penelo (XII), Larsa (XII), Vanille (XIII), Fang (XIII), Serah (XIII), Y'shtola (XIV), Yda (XIV), Minfilia (XIV), Agrias (T), Ovelia (T)
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>>155282768
I fucking hate you.

I have better units overrall, great TM units like Zidane, but fuck me if I can get goddamn Garland and WoL. Being a FFI fag is suffering.
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>>155297215
Well it's a good thing those are Dissidia characters then.
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>>155297028
>All chicks
>Larsa

I kek'd out loud. Ahhh thanks for the laugh anon, I needed it.
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>>155297325
WoL maybe, but who cares, he's based.

Garland's sprite is closer to his original FFI's though.
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>>155297028
>>155297423
God damn that's amazing.

How is deNA always so on the ball with these ancient, obscure memes?
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>>155297757
the generation of memes is entering the workforce anon

soon the memes will be one with us
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>>155294704
>tfw it's still region locked
Looks like it's a pirate life for me.
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>>155299483
You can't pirate a mobile game
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>>155297423
That's mean anon, Arc is totally a boy too.
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So is there any way to get Tyro's RMII to drop outside of Mondailies?
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>>155300557
Boys can't be cute
Arc is cute

Ipso facto
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>>155300727
>boys can't be cute
False, Faris exists
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>>155294704
Did they do a Kingsglaive collab with any other game?
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>>155301878

not that I know of. But if they do, it will be when the blu-ray comes out in early october like with JMV.
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>>155301878
There's like six other mobages that /ffg/ doesn't even play, so who knows.
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>>155299963
Apks from outside sources don't get updates, so it counts.
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>>155302626
I only care about RK and BE. It doesn't really matter anyways because the only characters I really remember from the movie is Nyx and the bad knight guy.
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>>155302852
By that logic, uninstalling unattended-upgrades means everything you download is pirated.
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>>155299963
>>You can't pirate a mobile game
Im not the other guy but FF7 in on the app market for 15 bucks and I can pirate that. That should count.
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>>155303330
No that's a real game with a mobile port, it's different.
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>>155303410
There are other games that are mobile only you can pirate. I just used ff7 as an example. I guess a better example is SU Attack the Light which is mobile only and you can pirate it. Costs 2.99 usd otherwise. I took a second to fine a game that costs money and isn't a port.
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New Exvius datamined stuff:

https://imgur.com/a/WCj7a

For the lazy: Brave frontier banner, enchanted maze event, giant of babil (FFIV) event, hanging edge event, imperial saga event, FF grandmasters (???), terra battle event (still in moonrunes), tactics event, other stuff.
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>>155303764
I think he meant to say you can't pirate a mobage
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Is there any location other than Earth Shrine where you can farm lumber and something actually useful?

Or is there a way to macro Earth Shrine exploration? I'm going for 320 ore, but the lumber requirement seems insane.
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>>155304710
If you bring 100% TM units you can get 6 lumber from every quest in Lanzelt or Grandshelt.
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>>155304710
You can get lumber BGN stage of the event.
Though I'm not sure if it's more efficient than Earth Shrine since I'm still farming PRO
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>>155304328
> Enchanted Maze

My fucking dick - that's great news. Although I hope we get the Tier 2 variant, since Tier 1 sucks major ass.

As for the Brave Frontier event, that's the first one, right? Because the second was fucking insane in JP - Vargas, best Healerfu 6* Tilith and Mega Magicite dropping like no one's watching.
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I hope we get Balthier in Dissidia
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>>155305063
First BF banner was literal trash, you had zero chances of getting anybody and they still sucked at the time.

Second one was also literal trash. In fact, I just so happen to have an image saved of the "rate up".

That's right, you have a combined percent of like, 4% of getting any of the banner units. And only two of them are any good.
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>>155305384
I hope not. Unless he substitutes that faggot Vaan.

But nippon peepor have shit taste and prefer Vaan.
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>>155305506
I got Vargas and double Tilith during the second BF event. Can't complain about that.
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>>155305506
""""""""""""""""""""""""Major""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" boost
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>>155305506
>people still play BE
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>>155305709
That's retardedly lucky. I rerolled like 16 times just to get Tilith, and the best I ever got was ONE (1) of this motherfucker.

That's one banner unit in nearly 500 pulls, and not even a good one.
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I just want to see whats next in BE. Im cool with a break from events but what's the next batch of units. Rolling my 5th Vivi today has me done with this event. Fuck Chizuru.
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>>155306895
Send WoL, I'll send my unwanted Chorizo ;_;
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>>155306996
The funny thing is I am the guy who pulled the unwanted 5* WoL. I love him to death but tanks are the least useful to have doubles of.
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>>155307232
Tell me about it buddy. Rolled my 2nd Cecil today, and it feels so fucking pointless to be levelling him, lol.
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>>155307417
Cecil makes sense because you get two of the literal best weapon in the game out of it.
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>>155304328

>Terra Battle

Oh shit, I hope we get the dwarf beastman guy who uses bombs. Or fucking Kuscah
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>Magus sisters one shot Ultima Weapon
C'mon buddy, you're supposed to be strong. I didn't even farm shit
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>>155308212
you can see the unit index anon, the only TB unit was the girl with spear and lightning element
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>>155305001
You get a lot more from BGN.
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Well, I guess only having "Fencer" on your want list means you aren't blowing Lapis on daily draws.
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>>155308458
I haven't gotten that impression. Its the same cost per draw spot and Earth Shrine is less tedious to navigate.
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>>155308393

Just one? But that fucking sucks
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>>155308663
saga collab was also one unit and just like that one, Samantha is a 3* that only goes up to 4*
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Mirage Dive or Sneak Attack
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With the impending release of World of FF and hopefully Dissidia, I've become pretty interested in FF. But aside from playing a chunk of VII and some minor knowledge of characters from playing KH I'm pretty unversed in the series.

What are the best mainline titles to play? Any titles to completely avoid, or that I have to play? Best spinoffs? Definitive versions/ports of said games?
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Who here crafted Meltdown?
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>>155308458
You get Red Magicite from Earth Shrine.
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>>155310104

The thing is, each one is so varied in gameplay and story, that there is no single one that is universally reviled. Each one has its fans. My advice would be to try them all and form your own opinion.

I liked to see the progression of gameplay mechanics so I started at the beginning and moved from there, but it's really up to you.
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The casual life
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>>155311315
Well, you can revive two people in that free turn...
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>>155310104
XII is cool. I hear X is cool too but I have yet to get the HD PC version. What little I played of IX seemed pretty fun. You might want to avoid XIII because it's very polarizing and it may give you a bad idea about the series. Don't start with II. You can play I through IX on a psp if you like portability.
As for spinoffs Dissidia 012 is pretty neat although it spoils some stuff from each of the main titles. Tactics is widely loved. Type-0 was pretty fun when I played it on PSP but I think the pc version is the best.
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>>155310104
The original PS2 Final Fantasy X (Non-international) is very comfy and the only version I've ever played. I've played every non-mmo mumbered FF and FFX is still my favorite.
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>>155310104
X
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>>155310104
Got you covered, senpai. We worked on a intro to the series chart recently and of the 110 people here, most if not all agree on pic related.

A list of definitive versions can be found in the OP.
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>>155312120
Well memed
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>>155312120
We didn't agree on anything here, faggot.

>>155310104
Easiest way is to answer a couple questions.
1. 2D, 3D, or indifferent?
2. What kind of general world theme do you like? (High fantasy, steampunk, etc)
3. Do you prefer more simple mechanics or more customization (basically, set classes or changeable/undefined roles)
More can be asked, depending.
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>>155312120
Can someone tell me what the hell is going on with Squall's back?
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>>155311051
I know, but I'd still like to see which ones are generally loved and which one generally suck ass. I definitely don't want to start with the earliest titles that have a minimalist story, though.

>>155311926
I have Tactics from PS+ way back when so it's definitely one of the first I'm trying. Surprised to hear type-0 was fun, didn't hear too well about it. I have access to this, too.

>>155312085
>>155312025
X is my best friend's favorite, so on the list too

>>155312120
might be useful if I didn't have to go and find out which logo corresponded to which game

>>155312461
1. Pretty much indifferent, though I'm not keen on trying out I or anything since I hear they have a minimalist story anyway, and that's one of the better parts of RPGs IMO.
2. Also indifferent.
3. I think starting with simpler mechanics might be better as I start off with the series, but when I last played VII I was also a babby who couldn't understand materia and that hopefully won't be the case today.
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>>155312864
The games in the top row are X, VIII, XIII, XII, VII.
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>>155312120
>>155312864
That image is bait made by a troll. Ignore it.
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>>155312864
As >>155311051 said, each mainline game is so different they could almost be different IPs. So you won't find any that are "universally loved" or "generally suck ass". Things like whether you like lots of lore or little, many optional scenes and details or a more straightforward approach and so on determine each person's favorites.
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>>155312864
It was made to protest this chart.

Generally, VII and X are the most popular and often considered "The Best", VI is considered the best "Classic" Final Fantasy, as it is both retro and uses a fantasy setting. VI is considered the other "best" retro Final Fantasy due to its presentation.
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>>155312864
>Pretty much indifferent, though I'm not keen on trying out I or anything since I hear they have a minimalist story anyway
That marks off I and III for the most part. II has a story, but the mechanics are retarded.

>I think starting with simpler mechanics might be better as I start off with the series
IV and IX are probably the simplest in mechanics and both have an alright story. V has job changing, but isn't all that hard to figure out and the game isn't too hard anyways while having a rather entertaining story.
VI and X might be decent too, but VI has a lot of party members (and a fair few of them suck from what I remember) and the sphere grid of X can be daunting even if it's generally just following a straight line.
Materia will definitely be easier to understand now.

>which ones are generally loved and which one generally suck ass
The problem is that opinions differ greatly between different people.
Some people love XIII, some think it's total trash, for example.
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>>155313771
IV. I meant IV is the best "Classic" Final Fantasy. Fuck Roman Numerals.
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>>155313771
You really need to stop posting this, X is a bad game for someone new to JRPGs. Literally every time you post this people explain to you how wrong it is.
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>>155313439
>>155313771
>that image is bait
>literally every reply so far has suggested from among the "best in the series" group
not even that guy, but cmon.
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>>155313930
>1 autist = "People".
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>>155313771
Both charts are dumb.
What is really needed is a proper pros and cons list for each game along with a short description for the combat and basic story.

>>155313983
Your image not only tells people nothing about why those games are good or bad, but it's just the fucking icon image that even many people who play the games have a hard time knowing at first sight aside from their favorites.
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>>155313983
It's not even about agreeing or disagreeing with the games on the list.

>Unanimous agreement on 4chan
>Anyone who disagrees is a autist or a hipster
>Not bait
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>>155314080
No, numerous people. X is very linear, places a big focus on narrative and story that most other FF titles lack, and has a non conventional progression system. Considering that virtually every other game in the series doesn't share the same elements, it's a bad first choice.
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>>155312516

I guess it's supposed to be Rinoa's hand hanging down from the wrist. Maybe. It's Amano.
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Holy fuck, that was fucking hard, jesus christ. He makes ultima look like a walk in the park.
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>>155313860
I would say that VII and X are easier to intuitively understand than the weird AP/ability system IX has going on. And yes, many of the VI cast are just bad (for gameplay but I also don't like non-humans in games).
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>>155313930
FFX is probably more people's "first Final Fantasy" than any other game in the series right now.
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>>155313930
Okay, I'll bite, how so? Is it the good quality of the graphics, music, and visuals?

Is it the leveling system that keeps you engaged and constantly gives you little rewards to keep you aware of how your characters stats are growing in a linear fashion, while later letting you move around it as you like?

Is it the way the ATB gauge was streamlined into a faster, stress-free format that lets you swap characters at will(thus being more forgiving newbie mistakes) and make decisions at your own pace?

Is it the way you are encouraged to use every character at all times in a way that makes them all feel unique?

What is it, anon?
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>>155312864
Do you like lots of lore and optional details? If yes, then VIII, XII, and Type-0 and Tactics (for spinoffs) are the way to go. If you like your story and characterization straightforward and easy, choose FFVI, FFIX and FFX. FFVII is somewhere in the middle, while XIII is close to FFX in many ways but not as polished. IV and V are pretty old, so they're rather primitive in some ways.
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>>155313930
>X is a bad game for someone new to JRPGs
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>>155314269
To be precise, every mainline FF places a very big focus on narrative and story, but most of them don't spoonfeed you so hard.
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>>155310104
Entry-level FF's would be 4/5/6, you can just emulate the GBA versions(if you care for post-game content)
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>>155314341
>I would say that VII and X are easier to intuitively understand than the weird AP/ability system IX has going on.
>Equipping an item and fighting to learn an ability is harder than materia and the sphere grid
I'm sorry, but what?
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>>155314269
Wow, this is plain wrong.

>very linear
This isn't a flaw ever and especially not when it's someone's first game.
>big focus on narrative and story
Yes, like all good RPGs try to do. Wow.
>that most other FF titles lack
They lack narrative and story? They aren't "focused" on them? Wrong on both accounts.
>doesn't share elements
Every FF tries to not share too many elements from previous titles. Again, amazed this is thought of as a flaw in the game.
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>>155314384
I don't see what that has to do with quality, it came out at the right time. XIII also has a considerable player base, but you don't see me recommending it as the first game you should play.

>>155314418
The battle system can be neat, but we're talking about recommending someone's first FF. Giving them a battle system that no other game in the entire series uses as their first taste of FF gameplay is kind of an odd decision. Same with the focus on narrative and stuff; whether you like it or dislike it, you have to agree that it's something most of the other games in the series don't have.
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>>155314418
Not to mention the fact that the group always stays together means that you won't risk missing out on important cutscenes or items just because you have the wrong characters on your team.

Or Equipment Customization. Or the complete lack of Chocobo Breeding Bullshit. Or the fact that every save point also heals you.
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>>155314914
>Same with the focus on narrative and stuff; whether you like it or dislike it, you have to agree that it's something most of the other games in the series don't have
The only ones that don't are the ancient ones like FF I-III, every other FF game has a big focus on story. I don't know why you keep saying this.
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>>155312120
>https://imgur.com/a/WCj7a
>recommends 8
>1, 6, and 9 are autism

hey fuck off
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>>155314914
I can't agree with the lack of emphasis on story because it simply isn't true. Firion's struggles with revenge, Cecil trying to find himself, Bartz eventually revealing his homesickness, Terra's identity crisis, Cloud's identity crisis, Squall's love story, Zidane and Garnet's Idendity Crises, Lady Ashe's long tale of revenge...

Pretty much every Final Fantasy after the first are insanely story and character-driven.
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>>155315101
1 is in the hipster category, I'm guessing the one you think is 1 is actually 4.
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>>155314767
Having abilities that are temporary until mastered on equipment is trickier than equipping materia on anyone or spending points to get abilities.

IX makes it hard to know what abilities are conferred from which equipment and the need to gain AP to learn them has to be balanced with equipping the best items, etc. I didn't think it was as easy as materia or sphere grid or even junction, but it's been a long time since I played.
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>>155315101
oh you right. still 1 and 4 are both good games, wtf
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>>155315014
They have some story focus, but nowhere near the extent of X. X has regular cutscenes where the characters talk about their journey and where they'll end up, as well as a consistent narration by Tidus. The other games? Not so much. XIII kinda replicates it.

>>155315202
This is true, X just demonstrates it a bunch more. You don't have cutscenes where Firion talks about how much he wants revenge, there's no narration by Bartz as he talks about the odd world he's found himself in, and so on. The later the series progresses, the more time is spent on the character's inner story. It peaks at X.
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>>155315631
>The other games? Not so much
Except they do. It just doesn't seem that way to you because there's no voice acting and/or they actually let you go off the linear path for non-story stuff at times.
If you're going on the story path, you will be bombarded with cutscenes in pretty much any FF.
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>>155315101
>6 and 9
two games full of wacky meme furries, straight up bad characters that no one will consider using, crazy nihilistic wicked sense of humor antagonists, awful menu portraits (yes this matters), and the most boring main storylines due to mandatory visits to dungeons that are a huge waste of time.

def belong in autism group immho
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>>155315870
except that you're the autist here
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>>155315840
Maybe so, that makes a big difference though. The cutscenes in the older games boil down to the characters exchanging a few lines, in X they're big affairs that are fully voiced and usually a lot wordier.
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>>155314952
>Not to mention the fact that the group always stays together means that you won't risk missing out on important cutscenes or items just because you have the wrong characters on your team.
Where the fuck has that been an issue in a FF besides possibly VI?

>Or Equipment Customization
Exists in X and is extra retarded because it's basically "Pick this one with more abilities" until you get proper access to customization (as in, actual access to the materials to make useful abilities) and most of the time it's going to be "relevant damage stat +% and maybe some strike skill" until you get the celestial weapons (which are the most ass to obtain ultimate weapons in the entire series)

>Or the complete lack of Chocobo Breeding Bullshit
That's pretty much only VII.

>Or the fact that every save point also heals you.
Tents are cheap, they can learn how to keep them on hand.

>>155315870
>straight up bad characters that no one will consider using
IX only has one of those in the flaming faggot and even he is useful to the average player.
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>>155314465
XIII is more polished and refined than X, not the other way.
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>>155316047
7. 8.

>>155316137
13 tried to simplify 10 more than it already was and was insultingly simple as a result, with no room for customization or exploration.
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>>155316275
>7
Minor line differences depending on the party comp isn't missing out on an important cutscene.

>8
Isn't a thing.
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>>155316275
You can customize equipment/accessories in XIII. The game gives you 4 or 5 accessory slots and nearly every weapon had a situationally useful benefit to encourage swapping them around rather than a linear progression in power.

I think that's better than flooding me with 10 trash weapons and 1 weapon that will that will be useful before predictably being outclassed by the options available in the next town.
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>>155314576
>>155314418
Not good for casuals due to the slow ass start until Mi'hen Highroad.
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>>155317070
Oh, and spending a couple hours ripping your hair out looking for an outfit to disguise your main character as a girl is SOOOOOOOOO interesting and action-packed.
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>>155317245
1) Never takes that long for that section.

2) Never said anything about VII.
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>>155314170
The numbers are not needed. When someone asks what games the logos represent, they are demonstrating curiosity and an investment into the answer which makes them more inclined to believe the chart. I learned something about this type of advertising in sociology, where companies deliberately exclude their names and only picture their logo. Whoever made that chart seems like he wants to achieve the same effect.
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>>155317449
Bait or autism? You decide.
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>>155317449
>Comparing a company logo to a video game logo
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>>155317245
To be fair, if you don't care about winning that minigame you can clear that section in like 3 minutes, you just need a dress
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>>155315870
>two games full of wacky meme furries,
almost every final fantasy. what the matter red XIII and the 29 billion furries of ivalice don't trigger you but freya mog and the yeti do?
>straight up bad characters that no one will consider using,
so much better in 7 8 and 12 where every character is literally interchangable with no difference
>crazy nihilistic wicked sense of humor antagonists,
So if they don't fall under traditional villain tropes a game is shit? lolwut
>awful menu portraits (yes this matters),
and here you are calling other people autistic. most of nomura's art is actual garbage
>and the most boring main storylines due to mandatory visits to dungeons that are a huge waste of time.
you can pick out at least one of these from any final fantasy game.

i know it's bait but come on people don't really hold such idiotic opinions right?
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>>155317597
I've never actually won that, do you get anything for it?
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>>155317449
My favorite Final Fantasy games are FF Dragon, FF Ellen Ripley In A Power Loader, & FF Meteor.
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>tfw LoP Pro gives 22 cave ores
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>>155316658
In VIII you can miss entire chunks of backstory and actual mini quests if you don't bring the right characters or don't talk with minor NPCs enough.
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>>155317340
It's still not as engaging as an ocean battle against a huge fucking sea monster.
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>>155317860
That lasts all of three turns? Sure it is.
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>>155317714
a kiss from the don :^)
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>>155317860
>comparing one early section to another early section
By that logic fighting the scorpion robot is better than walking around some damp ruins.
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>>155318020
You fight a boss in those ruins, by the way. And Rikku appears in an explosion and bondage gear and starts hurling grenades during said boss fight. All to some pretty fucking slick camerawork.

Not sure what your point was supposed to be.
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>>155316137
For all its linearity, FFX mostly succeeds in making the world feel reasonably alive and characters like an actual group. XIII fails both of these things, plus the inability to backtrack makes it seem even more cramped and artificial. I prefer its battle system by far, but XIII does have some rather glaring design flaws.
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Any hope for World of Final Fantasy? Looks promising, tempted to pre-order. Too many recent bad memories of FF games though.
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>>155317615
>so much better in 7 8 and 12 where every character is literally interchangable with no difference
Except this is wrong for 7 and 8 because of LBs.

>>155317854
This is entirely wrong.
The only major difference is in who you choose to go to the missile base and that's mainly if you send Rinoa for whatever reason.
There's one side quest you can bork up hard and that's the Zell/Library girl story during the one small part you're controling Irvine.
And, really, who doesn't run around talking to people during events like that or after major events?
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>>155318283
And Barret is shooting a gunarm with changing camera work, and an entire facility blows up.

You're trying to compare one good early point in X to a bad early point in VII, when the opposite can happen, as I've pointed out. THINK for once in your life.
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>>155318476
Wait, the Scorpion was a BAD early point?
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>>155317840
>TFW you have enough ore for three swords already.
>TFW you have no face.
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>>155318595
I was referring to his calling Honey Bee quest boring, while praising fighting a boss n X. Both are early game.
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>>155318476
Actually, this is closer to the Scoprion Bot. After which you have a quick puzzle fight as an entire CITY GETS SUCKED INTO THE VOID.
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>>155317714
Conero chooses you and I think you get some rare item, it's been a while.
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>>155318595
>ATTACK WHILE ITS TAIL IS UP!
such a great introduction to ATB, I'm glad we got this instead of the Whelk from FFVI.
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>>155318774
All of which happens in minutes and then it's a few hours of boredom. Not going to bring up VII anymore out of nowhere like you did, but X has a slow start.
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>>155318774
Then you wake up in some ruins, listen to Tidus monologue, and fight some dull fights
Then you do an underwater dive and fight some dull fights, listening to Tidus monologue before and after
Then you swim through a river fight some dull fights, having Tidus monologue before, during and after
Then you go to a village and listen to people yammer at you before completing a really dull puzzle, Tidus monologuing all the while

The whole game's like this.
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>Comparing VII and X early stuff
>Even though VIII beats them both out
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>>155318632
>tfw you have enough cave ores for almost three swords
>tfw 3 lumbers
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>>155319157
Wait, Geosgaeno nearly killing you and the previously mentioned bondage-babe grenade holocaust are "Dull"?

The extremely brief dungeon leading to a tactical fight with an angry squid is "dull?"

Swimming through a pirahna-infested river with your new party member, a total broseph, is "Dull?"

And then solving a very brief puzzle to meet a hot chick and her pet dragon is "Dull"?

Shit taste confirmed.
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>>155319353
You're putting a spin on it, those things amount to walking down corridors and fighting really easy enemies.
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>>155319473
You could say the same about the opening of literally every Final Fantasy when you trivialize it like that.
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>>155319353
>a tactical fight
You mean doing this one context-sensitive thing that the game screams at you to do? You're really going out of your way to make the start of X seem better than it is.
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>>155319608
Most FF games don't have a literally impossible to lose fight like Geosgaeno though.
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>>155319608
That's true, almost every FF opening is real dull. VIII is one exception. The issue with FFX is that it takes a really long time for the dull opening to evolve into the interesting mid game. I'd say things actually become interesting after the blitzball tourney. In VII, things start getting interesting during the raid on Shinra HQ.
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>>155318474
Not at all. Just look at all the differences you get depending on who you take with you to Zell's house for example:
>http://youtu.be/dtRbKg47UgU
VIII has a metric ton of stuff you can miss.
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Are you dumbasses literally having this exact same argument AGAIN?
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>>155319353
>yuna
>hot chick
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>>155319901
Yes.
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>>155319843
I think it gets interesting the moment you meet Wakka. Rikku's segment was a bit exposition-heavy, but Besaid feels a lot more organic. Lots of nice visuals, some of the best music in the game, and a chill attitude makes me want to get lost in the world of Spira.

"All action all the time" was proven to be a flawed model with XIII.

>>155319901
Apparently.
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>>155319901
It's 4chan, the hell do you expect?
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>>155319901
Better than waifu posting.
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>>155320003
>Posting FFX-2 Yuna in a discussion about FFX Yuna.

The rebuttal writes itself.
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>>155320034
How do things get interesting then? He tells you about the world and tells you to visit his village, then you go there.
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>>155320240
The only difference between X Yuna and X-2 Yuna is that X-2 Yuna at least pretends to have a personality.
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>>155320240
whoops wrong file

nice catch
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>>155320430
10/10 would Mega Flare
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>>155320332
Well, you see how certain aspects of Blitzball have been transformed into religious symbolism by time. That's really neat and really drives home how different this world is. At the same time, it's super-inviting and makes me want to spend more time in it.

I guess your opinion on Maechen affects how you think about the game as a whole.

>>155320413
Actually, Yuna being a blank is story-relevant. She's spent her whole life being told who she needs to be that she has trouble speaking out, which she really doesn't do with real conviction until she fights Yunalesca.
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>>155318474
yeah except everything else about them is exactly the same. so you end up using the best limit break characters? wow, now there's half a cast of useless characters just like that guy was complaining about lol
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>>155320685
That's not exactly true. Being a summoner was her own choice and Wakka, Kimahri, and Lulu would have supported her fully no matter what she chose. She also genuinely admired what her father did, so it's not like she was simply pressured into it.
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I'm about to finish X, how fun is X-2? I hear it has some issues so what would be a good way to tackle it on? e.g. I ignored majority of side stuff in X and had a good time.
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>>155320981
Gameplay can be neat, story is utter trash. And I mean trash.
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>Fran has the same rating as Orlandu and Ramza in RK on Altema
Uh, what the hell happened here? Did she get a broken SB?
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>>155320948
Was it? Was it her choice? Are you sure Auron didn't tell Kimahri to get her the hell out of Bevelle because he feared she would be pressured into following her father's footsteps?

As for Wakka, Kimahri, and Lulu, Tidus gives them the time of day for "supporting" Yuna's "choice" to become a summoner.
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>>155320981
X-2 is one of the series peaks for gameplay.
ATB has literally never been funner.

X-2 is one of the series worst for stories.
Stories have literally never been shittier.
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>>155321067
So can I just skip all the story and progress having fun with the systems?
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>>155318632
>mfw someone misuses tfw
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>>155320925
That doesn't mean half the cast is useless, it means that half the cast has distinctly better LBs.
I still use Vincent in VII even though his LB is actual trash and Quistis and Selphie still have usable LBs even if they're not as outright good as Squall, Zell, Irvine, or a properly set up Rinoa's Angel Wings.
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>>155321159
You can't skip the story without losing progress on the cutscenes (important for endgame stuff), but the story isn't super involved anyway. It's very easy to ignore, and hard to follow anyway.

You technically need at least two playthroughs to get it all, and it's fairly short as far as Final Fantasy games go.
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>>155320034
Not really since XIII is leagues better than any other game in the series. It's an RPG for true RPG fans.
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>>155321376
>hit auto
>just control job changes
>an RPG for true RPG fans
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VIII was the last game I really enjoyed. I was never able to finish IX, my disc crashed after killing the third black mage on the airship, but I enjoyed was I did get to play I guess.
I've tried to play every title after that, but they have all been complete and utter shit, easy boring pointless garbage, and never made it to the end of any of them.

VI is still my favorite V a close second and VII third.

I can't for the life of me see why anyone can stand X and above, am I just old and cynical? Or do I have superior taste?
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>>155321318
What do you mean by progress on the cutscenes? What endgame stuff, if it's too spoilery, try to be generic I guess.

Also please also elaborate on needing 2 playthroughs, you mean like The Witcher 2 needed?
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>>155321376
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>>155321458
>le x to win meme
Hello Plebbit.
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>>155321496
You're forced to pick between one of two sides during the story. The plot changes depending on your choice.
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>>155321496
Well the game counts your progress as a percentage, and you need 100% for the best ending/some extra goodies.

The counter goes WAY beyond 100%, so you don't literally need to see everything. But it counts skipped cutscenes as 0% for some retarded reason.
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>>155321621
>>155321674

Right, same deal as in The Witcher 2 then. Is that stuff for the 100% worth the effort?
Is the story payoff actually decent?
Are the goodies not utterly pointless like the side stuff in X if you're not going for postgame?
I'm guessing I'm forced to play with a guide this one?
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>>155321501
Prove me wrong. The only "flaw" in the game's design exists because of an arbitrary demand for "exploration" and "backtracking" as if either of those things are good series and genre staples.
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>>155321464
Superior taste, it's widely accepted that VII was the last well-made FF game
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>>155321858
The payoff isn't as good as playing both sides of Witcher 2.
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>>155321858
Well you can 100% in one playthrough with a guide (without seeing half the story), and easily do it in two without one. You can skip everything you saw the first time around with no repercussions.

Doing it is nice for all the bonus bosses and extra gear, because this game has some of the hardest (in a good way) superbosses ever.
Seriously, shit's crazy.

The story payoff is a joke, but it's
>canon

It's also unfortunately the ONLY part of the story that has any bearing on the plot whatsoever. Not that it's a good bearing.
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>>155321464
Superior taste famiglia
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Its amazing how 91 people can all have such varying but still completely garbage opinions
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>>155321983
The game never breaks its pace. It never uses the peaks and valleys that a story needs in order to remain engaging or fun. It never properly embraces differences in kind, being nothing but walking forward and fighting.

There's no towns to relax in, or chances to slow down and catch your breath. Fuck, not even the amusement park is any different!

They also frequently stop your level progression dead in its tracks long before you reach the end of an area to keep the "Casuals" moving forward. There are also no real choices to where you put your EXP for most of the game as you will cap everything regardless.

It removes so much from a typical Final Fantasy game and offers nothing to replace it.
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/ffg/ GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY
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>>155322441
>a fast-paced, high octane game is a bad thing
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>>155321464
Poor taste. No idea how you can claim X is easy and everything before it is hard.

Also V and VI are just old and bad at this point. You need serious nostalgia goggles to claim they are better than PS era games.
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>>155322746
Nobody has nostalgia goggles for V, it wasn't even available at the time.

Yet it's still /ffg/'s top pick.
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>>155322509
When it's 60-hours of every new area playing exactly the same as the previous one, it gets really fucking tiring.

And before you say "Just turn off the console for a bit", that crashes straight into the fact that I clearly crave no more of that exactly-the-same experience and thus am unlikely to turn the console back on for more of it.
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>Kaiser Dragon refusing to shift to both water and lightning in a single run.

It's not fair. I only need 4 black crystal for muh Meltdown.
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>>155322867
No, it's your top pick. VII's opening train sequence is better than the entirety of V and VI. Holding 2d games in such high regard after objectively superior games are released is nostalgia/autism/contrarian/hipster/meme etc
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>>155323404
No I mean we've done surveys all the time, it's the most consistently high-ranked.

Which means nothing about its quality, but it IS the most popular pick in this one specific subsection of mongolian cartoonophiles.
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>it's a "arbitrarily shit on a ff game you don't like" episode

new thread please
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>>155323627
SPEAKING OF FINAL FANTASY XII ...Actually I really love that game, no problems here.
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>>155323627
>arbitrarily

Nah, X is a pretty shitty game
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Can't we just admit that all the FF games are good?
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>>155323404
8/10, almost had me
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>>155324604
On my part yes.

The rest? No.

>"Yeah we can..."
>"except <insert FF title>, that's shit"
>other anons take the bait

Rinse and repeat ad nauseam
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>>155324604
I mean they're all pretty good, except your favorite FF
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>>155324604
Aside from 13, yes, they are all masterpieces. Literal works of art, and one shit stain on the wall.
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>>155324604
Can't we all just admit that all the FF games are bad.

Can't we all just admit that we're only here because we're all sad victims of gambling addiction, and that we all have a mobage problem.

The first step is admitting you have a problem. I'll say it first.
I have a problem.

Now you try.
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>>155324938
One shit stain that, if the demo told me anything, will soon have a roommate.
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>>155325191
>>155324938
You're not being good sports here gentlemen
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>>155322441
It does use peaks and valleys but not to the detriment of its forward momentum. It's supposed to feel (by the devs words) like the party must continue pushing toward an uncertain destination for unclear reasons. It accomplishes what it set out to do and it does it well. The pace reinforces and complements the game's themes.

If you run the numbers, this game functions more like VIII or XII in that equipping the right items and upgrading them is far more beneficial than crystatium progress. It encourages this focus on equipment by making weapons situationally useful rather than following a linear progression in power and by goving accessories a great deal of importance - you have far more slots than other titles and the basic str up acc from chapter 2 remains important after upgrades in chapter 12.
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>>155321126
Indeed, but as it happened, Yuna was very much like her father in personality. Even though she was far away from Bevelle, giving people peace was still something she wanted to do.

As for Tidus, he simply didn't understand the Spiran mentality then. To him it seemed ridiculous that friends could let a friend sacrifice herself, but even he later realized that it's not that simple.
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>>155325429
>It's supposed to feel (by the devs words) like the party must continue pushing toward an uncertain destination for unclear reasons
Oh yes it accomplished that. Most people weren't invested into the game because of it.
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>>155325692
The XIII trilogy sold a fuckton though
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>>155324604
Yes and no.
There are opinions and there are facts.
Opinion: As far as old rock goes, Metallica was good and Megadeath was bad
Fact: From a technical standpoint Metallica's music was poorly composed and arhythmic, because Lars was a terrible drummer, while Megadeath had complete and clean composition on the majority of their tracks.

From a technical standpoint, most FF games are good overall, but there are still some facts that make some worse than others.

It's my opinion that X had good characters. However, It's fact that the execution of character introduction and development was handled very poorly in X.

TL;DR No, it's impossible for everyone to have the same opinion, and it is also impossible for everyone's opinions to be based on facts.
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Are there any must-have abilities to equip on Lenna outside of TMR? I've got MP+20% and 3 SPR+10%'s on her
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>>155325774
And yet it's the least favorite.
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>>155325774
The "Trilogy" combined couldn't even outsell VII or FFX as stand-alone games. People fell for the FF13 meme because of the drought, but copies of the game are worthless now. LR couldn't even scrape a million.
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>>155325917
I don't think that's correct.
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>>155325917
You're forgetting VII is also 12 years older than XIII
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>>155325810
Some more specific ailment-curing spells to save on MP (Like the fucking bat poison) can make her more economical during long dungeons.
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>>155326087
And was only on one console, while XIII released as a multiplat. Your point?
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>>155326238
that reminds me, I first played 13 at a silky smooht 22 FPS on X-Box.
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>>155326054
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy
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>>155326238
There was a PC version of VII not all that long after the PSX version, you know.
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>>155326415
This says that VII sold 11.86 million copies, XIII sold 7.49 million, XIII-2 sold 3.645 million and LR sold 0.962 million. Add up the XIII trilogy and you get 12.097 million, more than VII. Your own source proved me right. Their X data is weird since they count X and X-2 as the same game for some reason.
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>>155326842
lol
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>>155326842
...Which still outsold the trilogy. The fact that it had to pool all three games together to beat just FFVII and FFX is kinda pathetic, especially with LR not even breaking a million.
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>>155326769
That was garbage and there aren't any sales numbers for it lying around.
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>>155326963
Now THIS is backpedaling.
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>>155326963
Huh? The original claim was that the XIII trilogy didn't outsell VII. I just proved that claim was false.
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>>155326963
>tfw btfo by your own source and dont know what else to say
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>>155325917
>The "Trilogy" combined couldn't even outsell VII or FFX as stand-alone games.
>>155326963
>The fact that it had to pool all three games together to beat just FFVII

Nice moving goalposts.

The original claim was FFXIII sold well. "It didn't sell as much as the two top selling games in the series" isn't really an effective counter argument.

If the data on that link is accurate, FFXIII (alone, not with the sequels) was the fourth best selling FF of all time; after VIII, VII, and X.
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>>155321156
fuck man i wish this post weren't so true
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>>155327472
People went for the XIII meme because it had been so long since a new FF game had come out.
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Hey nerds, are you having trouble with meltdown abyss? I only have 2 attacking magic sb's and they're random hitting so that fucks me over with the orb.
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>>155321205
which means that you can interchange them for every role and there's no real difference. different archtypes of characters is a fun variety from the amalgam characters 7 8 expert grid 10 and vanilla 12 offer
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>>155327691
It takes a long damn time for the characters from FFX to be interchangeable. By the time people are fully cross-classing, the game is nearly over.
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>>155327472
>The original claim was FFXIII sold well
The original claim was that the trilogy as a whole sold well, actually. XIII did amazing obviously and XIII-2 did better than I thought it would, but LR didn't sell much at all.
Not that guy who made a statement without actually looking at the numbers first, just saying.
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>5 energy left
>so close to that sweet rank up so I can keep farming
>do bgn Awakening vortex thinking it would be enough

You gotta be fucking kidding me
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>>155328235
>do earth shrine in 2 minutes
>go get exp to next rank
>?????????????????
>continue grinding like autist
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>>155328235
Just run the basic earth shrine once you get 1 energy
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>>155328235
You literally have to wait two more minutes until you can do an Earth Shrine run, anon. I've had the same thing happen to me though.
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>>155328305
>>155328317
>>155328334
I will, thanks. Still, I was a bit gobsmacked that it was only off by 1 exp
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Alright lads. I've been playing through games and now I'm at the last save point for the following games. Which endgame should I knock out first:

FFVIII (supposed to go to lunatic pandora, not the true final area)

FFIX

FFX

FFXIII-2
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>>155328879
VIII, there's still some meat on its bones and you should probably do the finale while you still remember what's going on
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>>155297028
>Larsa
Top Gunsel
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>>155296443
>>155297028
Should have Noel (13-2)
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>>155329359
will they nerf infinite hi-potions in TZA?
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>>155329867
They already did in IZJS, guests use items from your inventory.
You can customize Guest gambits though, so he won't be draining your Hi Potion reserve if you don't want him to. It's much more fun to have him spam Shades of Black instead.
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>>155329867
Yeah, but IZJS larsa is actually better.

He has early game Bubble and Shades of Black, plus you can actually play as him and change his gambits around.
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>>155329989
I see. That sounds good then. I never played IZJS.
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>>155330089
You can also control Guests and they also level up, so they're much more interesting.
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>>155328376
You're not the only one.
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>>155330416
whatcha synthing
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>>155330084
Can I make him not run like a little fuck once I'm done pulverizing Ba'Gamnan?
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>>155330627
Mogcakes. What else?
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>>155330650
But he leaves before the Ba'Gamnan fight actually starts.
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>>155318330
Outside of XII I don't see why anyone would play FF for anything but story.
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>hero's ring 1d 4h 57m
>hero's ring 2d 23h 53m
>hero's ring 2d 0h 28m

wake me up
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>>155331318
A few lapis would help, kupo!
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>>155331393
pls jewgle no
I need to save lapis for when new units come out, I've unabashedly burned most of my lapis and all of my summon tickets so far
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>>155331493
Sounds like someone isn't gonna get Lightning-sama.
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>>155331812
Who would be upset about that?
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>>155330886
But once I break Ba'Gamnan over my overlevelled kneecaps, it just turns into a tedious Benny Hill sketch.
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>>155331812
I probably wasn't in the first place knowing my luck
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>>155332143
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That was weird.
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>>155332065
People who want a great unit?

>>155332160
Don't worry about it, save up enough and you'll get her eventually!
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>>155331493
Don't forget, you can always buy summon tickets, kupo!
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>>155331812
Who cares. There will be more powerful units always. I am just glad to get ones I like.
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>>155332779
This.
She's not going to make a massive effect on your ability to clear stuff anyways, not unless you're just starting out or pulled literal garbage the entire time.
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>>155330650
You can do anything in IZJS

ANYTHING
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>>155333536
Does Vayne join the party in IZJS? That would be pretty cool.
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>>155332779
Same here. If I get her during her banner, I'll be happy. If I get Luneth during his banner, I'll be happy as well. I'll be happy if I get one good 5* base unit from a rainbow.

Now that I think about it, if during the Christmas/New Years global gets the 10000 Lapis option to spend for the 3 rainbows and the ATK+30% materia, we should be able to pick and choose what unit we want from the 5* base units since that is the equivalent of 22 rolls with two of them being a 4* or higher guarantee.
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>>155333536
Fuck that's adorable and creepy as hell at the same time.
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>>155333616
>10000 Lapis option to spend for the 3 rainbows and the ATK+30% materia
Jesus fuck, I'm spending zero lapis now just to be safe.
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>>155333598
Only good guys like Big Burd and the shota twins get to be in the party.

Oh and the Pussy Squad here.
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>>155333616
>I'll be happy if I get one good 5* base unit from a rainbow
So play JP, it's literally guaranteed there.
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>>155333598
Lad if he did I'd be all over that shit harder than I've been over anything in my life and I'd never fucking shut up about it.

god fucking damn eventually I need to look into modding that through emulator again. There was nothing useful to be done with it the last I checked, but that was like three years ago.
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>>155334195
I know that. I prefer to wait until the day that happens in global though. Hopefully we get that next year when BE turns one year old or sooner when the 5* base units start to get introduced into global.
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>>155333616
>we should be able to pick and choose what unit we want from the 5* base units

Haha no, that's way too generous. Lightning has like a 0.0014% chance to be pulled normally, they're not gonna let you just choose her. 10k Lapis for any three base 5*s you want is wayy too generous. Hell, the ability to choose ONE base 5* unit for 10k lapis would be generous.
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>>155334149
>>155334378
If you can put in those guys surely you can put in psycho vayne.
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>>155334408
Honestly the idea of the game NOT having rainbows always give out base 5*s is pretty absurd considering you only have a 1% chance of getting a rainbow to begin with.
That's like if pulling a rainbow in RK had a chance of giving you a 3*++ relic instead.
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>>155334149
gotta rename him to senpaifrit
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>>155334818
>had a chance of giving you a 3*++ relic instead.
I'd drop the game pretty fast desu
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>>155334795
Sorry, the game literally only lets you play as the good guys.

The gooder you are, the more it lets you play. Basch must be a very good guy.
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>>155334795
I can't think of a reason off of the top of my exhausted head that that logic is faulty, which gives me curiosity and hope that maybe it is possible.
Man, the effort I'd go through to finally be able to play the game as the True Hero.
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>>155335174
Is he in a t-pose because he has a weapon equipped and SkeleBasch has no weapon animations?
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>>155335395
looks like the guy gave that basch brotherhood sword, but doesn't know what weapon type it is or maybe what animation to use
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>>155335532
Pretty sure that's the Treaty-Blade.
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331st eternal reminder that Terra is best girl
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>>155335774
Hello Terranon. How was work?
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>>155335395
Skelebasch has animations for fisticuffs only for some reason.

Armor Basch can equip only 1h swords.

And regular Basch can equip literally anything, even where it wouldn't make any sense

>>155335626
Nope, that was Gilgamesh's knockoff Brotherhood. All the enemy equipment is coded the same as regular equipment, you just never have any way of getting it.
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>>155335937
okay
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>>155318367
I'm personally interested in it. Would be hyped if it came to PC and bought it. Hoping it'll eventually come there since it looks easy to port compared to XV. Also, HIPS.

>>155324604
Started playing II via Dawn of Souls, and nope afraid not all good FF games are good.
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>>155336779
Thicc
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>>155335774
Finally got her to max in BE and now she is part of my mage team with Exdeath and WoL and Cecil when they get their 6*. Between her and WoL, they can revive people with Raise/Arise in Terra's case and her and Cecil can heal with Cura/Curaja and Cecil has Focus. I need one more good 6* potential mage to perfect the team or a healer.

Also finally got to 400 Cavern Ores so I am set on Shining Splendors for a long time.
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>>155336779
>not all good FF games are good
You don't say?
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>>155336850
>>155336779
You pathetic virgins will masturbate to anything won't you?
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>>155337280
>Making more than two at most
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>>155337334
Anon, keep talking down to me like that.
I'm getting really close
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>>155337334
Eh, I'm sure that's mild compared what /a/ likes.
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>>155337334
>he says on 4chan.org
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>>155337362
Have to gear Firion/Cecil/Zidane/Rain/Lass. I still use Rain and Lass for the main storyline content and Cecil likes the sword's additional 8 defense. Zidane is for whenever he gets his 6*(with probable dual wield built in).

Hopefully Firion gets his Fin Briar upgraded eventually since it's weaker than Barrage.
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>>155337840
They probably won't give him 6*, they'll just give him a Trance Form. And since we're going FFX -> FFXII -> ? in JP right now, you can't bank on that at all.

And by that time you won't seriously be using Zidane for real content anyway. You can get away with it now, but not then.

If you don't roll a decent damage unit between now and then you're in for a wild ride.
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>>155337840
Firion with dual wield and barrage is a beast
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>>155338646
I hope to god after XII it's VIII.
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>>155338865
In all likelihood?
No.

We just blew our load on getting FFX characters, and then they're doing XII protags.
That means we have at least six more filler / donut events and random collab resurrections (that's a thing now, CD is getting another shot) before a real FF title.

And 8 is too popular for that to work.
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>>155338646
I think Kuja is the one to get a trance form since he perma-trances at the end of the Terra plotline in IX. Zidane will just get the standard 6* upgrade and nothing else.

And I have 2x Chizu and one of CoD/Exdeath/Terra/Firion for damage dealers so I should be set for a long while.

>>155339050
And they still have Yuna/Lulu/Auron/Jecht to release for X as well as Paine from X-2. Kimhari is optional until they get blue magic to work.
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>>155339050
Just wait until Cloud. Natty 8* easily.
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>>155339050
I can dream.
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Should i hand in my mogcakes or sell all of them and the ingredients?
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>>155339350
Well Zidane already has DW as his TMR, so they don't need to give you any MORE incentive to pull for him.

It'd be bad business if they did give him an upgrade. He's only gotten more valuable with time. And Terra isn't exactly in her Trance for for long either, but she got a character out of it.


>>155339461
Curty pls.
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W H E N
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>>155339603
Except Terra is super special in VI due to being half Esper and the only one with a Trance form and as well that trance form being plotline relevant. Zidane trances just once for storyline in battle against a minion of an early boss and never again for plotline while Kuja's Trance form is super special since he achieved permanent trance form before he got killed and wrecked the party both times you faced him with it. Hence why I feel that Kuja will get the super special trace form gacha with W Black and Ultima.
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>>155339971

Who would you even give that to? Butz? Firion?
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>>155340340
Artemios
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>>155340227
Most of the cast of IX trances as part of the story at least once.
Kuja just does fucked up shit to obtain a stronger form.

>>155339971
This will be useless to me, sadly.
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>>155340227
It's a gacha game that's trying desperately to spread itself thin. It's so that they can keep units like Cloud and Squall as an ace up their sleeve for when everybody stops playing.

>>155340340
Buttz is better with 1H swords because he gets a +20% ATK passive with them.

Firion would be the ideal option because of his +25% ATK bonus from bows, although if you have Dual Wield it'd be a waste.

And yes that's relevant because GUMI won't give us the next event until after they have 6*s.
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BUG FIXES
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>>155340910
>they removed S/L

Oh holy shit no
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>>155341290
>implying
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>>155341290
Not removed, kupo, now it's even easier than ever!

Instead of having to close and reopen the app, all you have to do is deposit one (1) mythril or one hundred (100) gems, kupo!
Such a breeze!
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Holy fuck, they DID remove S/L.
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Ugh.. here (you) go lads.

Happy now?
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>>155341290
>>155341670
>>155341735
If this is true, I'm glad I already dropped it.
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>>155341290
>>155341735
Fucking dropped. I'll feel sorry for those who are about to fight those Mandragoras in the Celerity Dungeon
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>>155342036
How does it feel to be baited like an idiot? Or are you simply samefagging it up?
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>>155342036
>>155341735
>>155341290
E B I N xD
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Did you have fun?
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>>155342251
>running full synergy in an orb daily

Autism
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Is it still impossible to get all of the Earth Keys like the wikia says? I'm only missing 6 but it says 2 of them are unreleased
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>>155342369
>FF6
>Synergy in the black power daily
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>>155342440
Thank you reddit whales

RK would be ded without you
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>>155342440
>no Walls
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Getting back into FFXI. Am I basically soloing until 99 now? I mainly just wanted to feel the game again, finish all the missions I didn't do, and maybe start a new character to redo all the missions and get the cutscenes the groups made you skip the fuck out of.
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>>155342440
all pretty mediocre banners
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>>155342676
If I was going to pull it'd personally be on banner 4, but I'm still tapped trying to pull for Shout/Wall on the support draw.

Maybe I can get one draw in if I do more classic dungeons.
>>
Still waiting for DeNA to give Garnet 5* WHM and fix her BSB to have EnHoly
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>>155343076
Wasn't Eiko the better white mage in IX?
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>>155342593
im interested in this
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>>155342582
no wall is a bsb
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>>155342593
You solo 90% of the content now.
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So where can i watch FFXV movie? my peasant country won't screen it
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>>155343174
Yes, but Eiko can use 5* SUM
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>>155343289
Poor soul
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>>155343289
It's shit anyway so don't bother
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>>155343272
Ok cool that's fine with me then looks like my server is one of the dead ones. I'll just solo with my waifus and husbandos (no homo).
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>>155343927
I actually found it really cool to just solo everything and see everything at your own pace. It's also cool setting up a team you want and enjoy. Except Shantotto II. She was always around because she was busted.
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>>155342440
Banners 3 and perhaps 4 look to be worth pulling on, at least.
I have 250 mythril, probably going to keep saving though.
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>>155343310
Eiko had her own special summons though, didn't she?
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>>155344017
do people colloquially refer to shantoto II as shantotwo
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>>155344893
more like shittoto
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>>155344734
Yes, but only Phoenix and Carbuncle are in RK right now. That means that she would only get 4* SMN
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>>155344969
If you get caught up in what a character should have because of what they were able to use in their game you'll just go crazy.
Auronfags can deal with it, I'm sure you can too.
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Garnet any good? Already have Lenna, Krile, and Fina

also what about that old samurai guy and the red pirate? just trash?
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>>155345118
She's right up there with Lenna.
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>>155344017
>was busted
So is it balanced now or should I be join the Shan-bandwagon?
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>>155345118
Lenna's better desu. Garnet has Raise in exchange for having no ailment healing or any support abilities worth a damn.
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>>155345275
I used "was' because I am not playing XI atm.
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>>155345059
But I'm an Auronfag though. It just bugs a little that Eiko can use 5* SMN while Garnet can't use 5*WHT. It would really bother me if Garnet didn't get good Soul Breaks
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>>155342440
A free Rosetta Stone? How does one become a silver MVP? Oh great Jewgle I summon you for an answer.
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>>155346068
Cash money, kupo!
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>>155346068
Thousands of dollars
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>>155339568
Help
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Okay, I try not to be like that, but when I have, through empirical evidence, managed to deduce that the third slot in a two Ochu line-up will always be Moogle, Chocobo, and Cactuar in that exact order, and I continually get proven correct regardless of waiting time before pulling?

Serendipity's slot machines are rigged as fuck.
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>>155346473
The slot machines are more of a Mobage gatcha than anything. Just rubberband your controller and go to bed.
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>>155346462
yeah
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>>155342440
2 > 3 > 4 > 1 >5 desu lads

2 has Terra EnFire, two Magic Blink Curagas, Keeper's Tome, a Hastega Curaga and a +Holy damage SSB for Bartz

3 has two Hastegas, Sheepsong, instant Curaga, and really good debuff on Faris's BSB plus consolation Vanille

4 has Cecil BSB but that's about it

the rest are kind of scraps save for Traitor's Bow and Wyvern Lance on 5 and Omnirod, Ragnarok and Green Megaphone on 1

probably going to blow some mythril on Banner 2 because I kinda want Keeper's Tome but this is before G5 so pic related
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>>155346852
4>2>3>1>5 to be more desu with you

4 has best bsb, Mage Sword, and then also a Magic Blink Medica. Worth it for best bsb alone
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>>155346724
No need to do that, the game has an auto mode.
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>>155346068
Spend a ton of money, but even then it's mostly random. There are some Plebbitors that have spent thousands and have gotten jack shit.
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>>155346852
You're leaving out Celes' amazing Runic on 2 as well.
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>>155342440
Based on the BSBs only, banners 4 and 5 are the best because of EnElement.
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>>155346473
>being this assmad
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>>155342440
keep saving lads; these banners suck.
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>>155345170
No she isn't.
They're hardly comparable.
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>>155348226
kek.

what are you saving for, guaranteed 5*? enjoy them guaranteed generics lad.
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>>155347802
Nothing on 5 is EnElement. My apologies.
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>>155348226
They don't, but they're definitely traps.
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>>155348334
Banners are only going to get better and better. Why spend now?
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>>155348368
All you G5 fags do realize that you're actually getting LESS 5* items on average, right?

The fact that you automagically get a 5* means you're way LESS likely to get two, or three.
It's a downgrade and you're eating it up like the swine you all are.
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>>155348480
Why ever spend? Even future banners will be worse than ones that take place even later than that.
Just hoard your mythril forever and ever.

>>155348545
>The fact that you automagically get a 5* means you're way LESS likely to get two, or three
This man is retarded, ignore him.
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>>155348545
>The fact that you automagically get a 5* means you're way LESS likely to get two, or three.
Haha, what?
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>>155348612
Well, that's what true hero fag is doing, that's for sure.
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>>155348612
It's true, mathematically it's true.

In order to make up for the guaranteed 5*, you have less chance on average of even rolling a 5*.
You don't notice because it automatically upgrades one item, but you have SIGNIFICANTLY worse odds for multiple 5*s.

Pull now or forever live in mediocrity.
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>>155324938
At least FFXIII has great music and artwork
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>>155348545
this is some low quality bait
>>155348368
That's probably fair. Most of these banners end up with some good consolation medicas, but, in general, the whitemage banner from a month or so ago should have covered you there.
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>save mythril for Fang bsb
>fuck yeah got a bartz cloak and air knives for that sick wind boost on top of the enwind
>finally w burst banners, read some dumb comment on reddit calling the bsb trash
>wtf is this retard saying
>check the spreadsheet
>the fucking burst is an imperil and not enwind
>ive been mistakenly reading the description of the goddam osb for weeks without noticing my error
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>>155348960
>bartz cloak and air knives
Sounds like Bartz is a fucking baller for you.
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>>155348960
dumb frogposter
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>>155348908
It's not bait, it's just common sense.

You currently have a 78.03% chance of getting at least one 5*. That's a 21.97% chance of 0/11 that we lose with G5*

Add up your individual odds beyond 1/11 (2/11, 3/11, 4/11...etc) and you'll find that your odds of getting those 2/11+ rolls actually go DOWN by more than that 21.97% gap.

So while you have much lower odds of failing cataclysmically, you have much GREATER odds of rolling "eh."

Play big or go home. This is the rule of mobage world.
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0-3 farm phantom forest
4-7 farm for another hero ring
8-9 farm for another shining splendor
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>>155349728
haha good luck kupo
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What's the next banner worth pulling on in RK?
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>>155349808
I want to die
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>>155349928
Only one banner worth pulling for baby, drops in about a month

All other banners are obsolete
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>>155349994
I think the lumber is the worst part.
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>>155350193
Lumber is what's holding me back. Copper too.

I don't even think I'm gonna craft a second one. I have enough cavern ore for 1 so far.
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>>155342440
>desperately want a BSB
>these all kind of blow

ehhhhhhhhh
maybe ill pull on 4 for my waifu beatrix
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>>155350346
I have enough for 3 but this lumber farming is fucking painful. At least the fight was fun for a while.
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>>155348718
Auron you gotta show some numbers to persuade the numb nuts.
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>>155350454
Seriously. Where you farming it at?
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>watch Soul Surrender patch
>game looks fucking amazing
>think about playing again
>remember game is actually boring as fuck
Thank god for Twitch streams letting me watch XIV content without having to suffer through it.
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>>155350087
qt, QT.
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>>155348545
Do you realize that chasing a relic will be much easier now right?

Obviously there's still quite a bit of RNG, but assuming that you do 10 pulls, your odds of getting the specific relic you want is 83.56%. If you're chasing a non-BSB relic at 2%, the odds are even better.
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I have the raw materials for 5 15% HP materia and 3 Shining whatever swords. I'm not grinding out anything else until these are done.

Hopefully I get a ribbon or an MAG 30% out of it. Wish me luck.
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>>155350785
But your odds of getting TWO of what you want actually go down.

I'm not some unlucky peasant who settles for 1/11. I have never had less than 2/11 and I never aim to.
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>>155350440
>Cecil BSB
>blow
You out of your mind?
I wouldn't mind for her bsb either. Banner 4 is the only way to go
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>>155350925
People settle for shitty relics right now because RS, but if they could have a good chance of get the relic they actually want, I'm fairly positive most would rather go for the latter.
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>>155304328
>imperial saga
wonder if that means i'll be able to get sif.
also live a live when?
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>>155350703
BNG for lumber
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Anyone need some Chizurus or Vaans?
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>>155352310
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>>155350829
That's the dream man.
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Trying to get my abilities back in order in RK after a long absence. How far should I hone Curaja/Protectga/shellga? And is the priority order in the pastebin still valid?
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>>155352605
Protectga and Shellga should only be honed once if at all

Curaja at R3 or R4 should be enough for the longest battles of attrition generally

The RK guide anon has somewhat subjective priorities but it's fairly accurate more or less I think
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Making a Lightning thread right now. No one else make one.
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>>155352713
How about tomorrow, we had a lightning thread like 4-5 threads ago.
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>>155352770
>>155352770
>>155352770
NEW
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>>155352101
Best sif coming thru
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>>155352710
yeah I ended up honing both of the -gas once because they'll cover most of the longer dungeons and trash gets ridiculous later on
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>>155352504
I just need them to chill out on grinding events for a week or two
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