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>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
essence challenges: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715825
>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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10 weeks of lucid shitposting until the new league, lads
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>>155192512
who's paying you for this
summoners aren't meant to fight malachai, right? 10 seconds in and I've no zombies/spectres/whatever left since they make sure to walk in every possible attack of malachai in this clusterfuck arena
>>155192512
All these free (You)s, delicious.
>>155192730
low level summoners have a hard time vs him
less aoe damage taken on minions when
not projectiles or direct hits, since they're soaking those for you
>>155192863
yeah figured it was against cruel mala I teleported every other minute out to resummon in hope to get some hits in afterwards.
leveling as a summoner was a grave mistake.
>tfw Pier map boss is some poverty wannabe Izaro
>oooh the weary traveler approaches the end of a repainted docks
>>155193101
what about skeletons/srs? don't need corpses there
who's #drunkasfuck tonight boizzzzzzzz
anyone wanna map...
>>155193285
did srs before, wasn't such a pain in the ass, I mean still annoying but at least you could stay in as long as you had enough flask charges. I wanna play a traditional summoner but in hindsight should've level'd some srs off hand
>>155193382
if atlas weren't such a turnoff when it comes to mapping
>>155193890
what are you talking about atlas is great
>>155193302
>tonight
i hope i will be though..
Guys im using Glacial Cascade and Bladefall in a CoC build. Got up to T10 but now i feel my damage is lacking.
Im using Blast Rain - CoC- Glacial Cascade - Bladefall- Arc (for trash)/ Concentrated Effect (bosses) - Chaos Damage sup. Any suggestions that would bring my damage up?
>>155196097
yes, you should try installing poe 2.3 so the CoC nerfs get reverted and your internal cooldown goes back to what it was.
>>155196378
This is my first CoC build and didnt really know about the nerf. It wasnt after i got my shit pushed in by Atziri because of the low damage i started to notice something is wrong.
Now i try to make if work for maps.
>>155196609
to be honest don't even bother playing CoC, just switch the build to generic bow crit build, get a windripper and go ele and you'll probably perform much better.
CoC is just too weak to be used like it was before.
>people unironically blaming vinktar's instead of master surgeon for the shaper facetank debacle
>>155197585
>thinking master surgeon is the problem while it's clearly vaal pact
>>155197979
>let's nerf 90% of builds instead of just the one that needs it
why are we still here
just to suffer
>>155197585
>vinktar's still the most broken flask in the game despite such heavy nerfs
>>155192512
Free.
>>155192730
Get those big statues from Daressos arena. They are quite tanky at this stage. For free.
why did ggg copy algalon for the boss of atlas
Oh well, I'm already done with PoE. Cya, nerds.
>>155197585
they just need to make the leech not fucking 20%and yes, blade vortex and vp and whatnot are not relatively more OP than fotm builds of old times, pathfinder is the problem
Our guy ZiggyD running putrid cloister!
i fucking love stibnite flasks.
i might get a witchfire brew.
even if i have no actual use for the curse
Why is there such discrepancy in damage between regular mobs and bosses?
You can just rush through normal mobs without problems and then the boss just two shots you and you're left wondering what you did wrong.
And the only way to circumvent this is to overlevel and overgear compared to mobs pre-boss like crazy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/53egu4/lioneyes_watch_podcast_w_chris_wilson_full_video/d7sqkun
Daymmmm
In the same day I managed to link my shavs , run a vinktars square and id the phys to lightning flask and chance skyforths.
I think I'm actually havingfun
>>155200786
>Why is there such discrepancy in damage between regular mobs and bosses?
I don't think there is. Mobs can 2-4 shot you but you wont notice it that much because you kill them so fast/they are slow so you almost never get hit.. A lot of bosses are on your ass/hit you from far and you won't kill them fast enough to not get hit once.
>>155200801
>>155200984
>chance skyforths.
whats the damage?
>tfw running a life build
>tfw you learn that life is dead and CI is king
guess I'll just stick to yellow maps.
>tfw quest rewards always, always get the shittiest rolls
I dont think I ever got a 30 dex jade from Dialla for example
leveling my lightning strike inquisitor, its surprisingly comfy
threadly reminder that if you bought a lab run then you don't deserve to play that character and you should uninstall
>>155201345
I started picking up the 4-link items in merc and rolling them myself. Actually got a nice pair of boots that way using an essence.
>>155201345
i usually get a decent res ring from the hillock quest on merc
>>155201436
Never bought a lab run, but I've never beaten Izaro on merc yet. I usually abandon halfway through because he always gets buffed. His life-bar is so unclear when he's actually going to die that most of the time I kill him too fast and he's buffed to fuck.
>>155201806
>I kill him too fast and he's buffed to fuck
huh
does he eat anything still on the field when he dies the first two times?
>>155192512
based freeman
>>155201970
Some of the mechanics will buff him even if they aren't out of the ground yet (just learned that today). So if you kill the first thing to rise up and burst down the boss he ends up getting the 2 remaining buffs even though they never activated.
I want to build a TANK, damage is not a concern, I don't care if I take 20 seconds to kill a rare. Here's what I got outlined so far:
7.5k base life
75/75 block/spellblock
20k base armour (40k+ with flasks up)
6 endurance charges (permanent, level 20 IC)
Chaos golem
Aegis Aurora (1k ES buffer)
Level 23 Purity of Ice (level 21 in an Essence Worm ring) for 85 base cold res
Essence of Horror chest (15% of physical damage taken as cold damage)
One sapphire for temporary 91% cold res
Anything I'm missing? What should I add to be immortal?
>>155202864
>7.5k base life
>life
you're already dead, kiddo.
>>155202864
>Anything I'm missing?
15k+ ES
>>155202896
There's nothing in the game that goes through 7.5k life in one hit, except volatiles and DD.
Volatiles are not a concern because I would deal no damage thus have plenty of time to see them coming.
DD doesn't exist if you prepare for it.
>>155203047
Aside from the fact that end-game mobs can deal 14k+ damage in an extremely short amount of time? Sure.
>>155203171
I WILL HAVE ALL THE MITIGATION IN THE WORLD
>>155202864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t49sm6arV4
Instant life leech is true immortality
>>155203047
>DD doesn't exist if you prepare for it
lol
>>155203409
Fuckin' Beautiful
>try labyrinth
>die
so much for that hc character
>>155203409
That's amazing
>>155203409
You have ascended above us, mere mortals
what's the appeal of hardcore? is it aimed to the same people that like roguelikes and shit? I hate losing my progress
>>155205287
>what's the appeal of hardcore?
theorycrafting
seeing how far you can go with your own build
>>155205287
The appeal is for people who find softcore boring or easy. Personally this game is really boring to me on softcore. There's no real challenge or consequences.
If you really hate the idea of losing your character then play softcore, it's there for a reason.
what's the appeal of softcore? is it aimed to the same people that like farmville and shit? I hate having no challenge.
how do you get more dmg on meme vortex
>>155205454
not losing your progress by dying to rng or disconnects
>>155205547
>dying to rng
???
what does this even mean
there's no number generator running in hard core that kills you if it lands on a certain value
>>155205623
Not entirely true. Evasion, enemy crits, offscreen stuff. There's definitely RNG that can kill you.
>>155205673
If your build is susceptible to those, it's really weak.
>>155205673
listen I don't want to call you retarded
but if your build can't take a single hit
you're probably retarded
>>155205287
it's the concept of video games, concentrated; a false sense of progression that replaces the innate human desire to advance towards goals that benefit your situation as a being. many humans replace effort of will and determination of advancement with inventions that give off the same neurological chemicals, and hardcore not only amply covers these, but it also instills a certain mentality of elitism within them via separation and perceived superiority.
because these people have nothing to work towards in life, they seek goal-replacement. it's a very natural desire, but the stagnation of humanity in an individualist perspective has caused such things to arise.
it's literally just a replacement for having life goals to work towards; a certain edification of mentality that benefits nobody.
redpill me on solo self found
>>155205425
>challenges
>consequences
it's a fucking video game
>>155205760
wow, brb killing self
>>155205758
I'm just playing devil's advocate really. There are certainly some mechanics in this game that can 1-shot (or multi-shot faster than any human can react to). The whole challenge of hardcore is mitigating those events.
>>155205778
https://clips.twitch
.tv/bakedchicken/EnergeticGoatDatSheffy
>>155203772
Life of a hardcuck
does /poeg/ have a guild?
>>155205864
>it's a fucking video game
do you only play walking simulators or...?
>>155206020
yes but it's only for elite hardcore players
>>155206121
"aw, that's too bad"
>>155205881
Then all we've come to the conclusion of is that people with unstable connections and those who are awful at planning, right?
if you're still playing hc in the age of volatiles and league mechanics being shared across hc and sc what the FUCK are you doing
you're either a masochist or an elitist
>>155206678
I think I'm a masochist is there any way to find out if you really are?
>>155206786
if you do things that cause you mental or physical harm, realize it, and do them again, you're a masochist
>>155206786
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defeating_personality_disorder
hehe
>>155207086
not bad buddy
>>155207086
auracucks disgust me
>>155206678
>the game offers you the possibility to challenge yourself and overcome obstacles
>STOP PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY I DONT
>>155203047
>There's nothing in the game that goes through 7.5k life in one hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81Rl1BDzPsM
>>155207215
>not rolling damage mods on maps and playing ranged/spellcaster 100% is challenging
alright
>>155207309
Are you even trying anymore? So if I roll damage mods on maps (which is pretty much inevitable if you don't want to reroll 80% of red maps) and play melee, am I truly hardcore?
>STOP PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY I DONT
>>155207215
>challenge yourself and overcome obstacles
aka buy lab carries, skip map bosses and only play fotm builds
>>155207291
Where's the 7.5k hit? I only see a 6k hit, can't be bothered to watch the entire video. Plus an Aegis build (+5% max cold res) would be well suited for that specific Guardian where 80% of the damage seems to be pure cold damage.
>>155198068
>implying this isn't what they're going to do
>>155207839
it's literally at the beginning of the video, he went from full health to like 1k (hes got 16k)
>>155203409
>life character
>facetanks the shaper
>>155207839
its on 3:05
>>155208309
Those are not individual 7-8k+ hits, there are several quick bursty hits of 2-4k damage which is something a max block build excels at mitigating. Literally 3 hits out of 4 simply do not go through, and that's before evasion, dodge, blind, etc.
post you'r atlas, /poeg/
>>155208559
Shaper when?
Casual shit player here, I'll get the 100 maps unlocked challenge eventually
Daresso is ridiculous, especialy in normal
I swear hes way stronger than Malachai
anyone here killed shaper yet?shitcrows don't count
>>155208826
no he's not
use a decoy totem and move out of the sword clouds
very predictable fight, unlike malahcai
>>155209061
without good leveling gear, a nice amount of armor and evasion, and no movespeed ( I have the duelist node tho ) its kinda hard to move around
I dont know I find him super fast, I dont have trouble dodging the super slow attacks of Malachai.
post your crazy theories on how GGG is going to balance life in the future compared to ES
>>155209326
nerf es, that would be the ggg way
>>155208559
Everything is done corrupted, and that's why there are skips. Well there's only one skip now, but there used to be more, because of +1 corruption.
I'm shitcrow though, this build cannot be played in hc.
>>155209326
they won't? Chris has said they're fine with players using life builds at the start of the league (easy to level with, cheap) and eventually transitioning into CI later on
life builds from strength classes have been shown to be shaper viable too
>>155209529
>life builds from strength classes have been shown to be shaper viable too
as in ?
>>155208826
Daresso is scary if you're an evasion only character, but he's not that bad. Just keep moving and watch for the swords.
>>155209402
no because nerfing es instead of power-creeping life would be the better long-term option. the real issue is GGG autistically holds onto the notion that the game should have 1-shot deaths, and as long as that's the case life and es are always going to be wonky in some regard. same with how armor is calculated.
>>155209926
The spiky nature of the damage in this game has always bothered me. I'd prefer more interesting mechanics than simple burst damage bullshit. It is what it is though. GGG just needs to stop constantly power creeping everything to match the 1% builds that can actually do the content... and then nerfing those builds.
are there any meme-spewing spammy builds like the writhing jar or cwdt builds from last leagues or did GGG kill them all?
>>155210085
cast on ignite. enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjoQ244Yd5I&feature=youtu.be
>>155209326
Give more ways to lower the damage of big hits. Especially physical ones.
Right now, there's only a handful of ways to do that, and you can only run one of them to it's fullest potential in a build.
>Mind over Matter
>converting phys damage taken to an element, like Lightning Coil, then going for +max resist on that element
>Basalt Flask (unless you're a memefinder you can't have that shit up too much, still might get surprise one shotted)
>Endurance charges
Arctic Armour's reduction is so pathetic now and it reserves mana so fuck that, not even worth mentioning. Other sources are like 4% so also not worth mentioning.
If they want to keep introducing new endgame bullshit with way too much damage then they have to increase endgame defenses. That means % reduction instead of just more life.
>>155210030
Maybe that's what Chris was talking about when he said he found a solution to a problem all arpgs had so far.Maybe they will introduce Quicktime events as skill check
>>155210687
i'm thinking it'll be about set items
>>155210030
Damage has to spike to be threatening because GGG refuses to remove log out to safety from the game. If you're slowly dying to something being too strong you can just bail out.
It's a fundamental problem with the game that will never change because GGG thinks it's fine not to have a log out timer.
>>155210759
How are set items a problem in arpgs? Also it's probably silly to introduce them at this point because either they will be useless or BIS powercreeping everything else.
>>155211034
you just listed the problems they bring, that's why chris said that he doesn't want them in the game. sets are in every hack and slash, except poe. if they have found a way, they'll put them in the game.
>>155211252
That's true but do we really need set items? The game is pretty good without them.
>>155211034
you answered your own question
>>155211252
they might make set mods that you can find->add to gear. Kind of like how essences work. Basically you could craft a piece of gear to be a set piece but it wouldn't have to be a preset unique item.
>>155210870
>It's a fundamental problem with the game
Why is it a problem? An arpg with no damage spikes has no element of surprise and is thus boring. Because we have damage spikes, this results in a variety of different ways players come up to deal with it: stacking 15k es, getting instant leech, stacking avoidance, stacking mitigation, stacking movement speed, avoiding the damage altogether through mechanics, minions or positioning, etc. If damage is in an expected range, then there is never any reason to prepare for above that expected range. Without variance in monster damage, we have no variance in builds.
>>155210592
You can run MoM and infinite Basalt with 50% increased effect in a BV PF build. That's part of why it's so popular right now.
Top guy in HC Essence is running this shit. So are like 5 of the top 20.
poeurl.com/MzE
>>155211561
Why Vaal Pact?
>>155211661
are you retarded?
>>155211561
MoM basalt taste of hate vinktars dying sun rumis, take your pick.
enjoy 86% max resists all the time, and dont forget the instant leech from vinktars and life leech as that 6th link on BV.
>>155211693
just a question, no need for all that attitude...
>>155208330
the shaper laser works like incinerate.
it deals damage per second rather than a lot at once.
its possible to leech against, dodge or just heal against.
>>155211661
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vessel_of_Vinktar
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Physical_to_Lightning_Support
Enjoy the most leech you can get in the fucking game. VoV is retardedly expensive though.
>>155211751
you need instant leech to not die to endgame content like surprise damage spikes and reflect.
not to mention that there is no reason not to get vaal on a build like this since it would be too costly to stack life regen or increased life leech per second.
i know this is probably the wrong place to ask
but would anyone be interested in algtbq guild
>>155211827
holy fuck the price for a "convert phys to lightning" VoV spiked like a motherfucker.
it used to be 4 ex just last week.
now it is around 7-10ex, what the fuck.
>>155211827
>drawback of Vessel of Vinktar is being shocked
>Master Alchemist makes you immune to elemental status effects
It's like GGG wanted Path of Pathfinders.
>>155212112
there's already one
>>155212112
I'd be interested in any type of guild right now senpai.
fuck I'm getting bored of playing this alone.
>>155211827
desu, they fucked up by making vinktars
even the "nerfed" version is insanely powerful
>>155212203
the drawback of vinktar is the charge usage
you can nullify the shock in other ways
>>155212526
what is that? charge usage?
sorry I cant hear you over the
8% increased Flask effect duration
Flasks gain a Charge every 3 seconds
20% chance for your Flasks to not consume Charges
10% chance for Flasks to gain a Charge when you deal a Critical Strike
40% total reduced flask charge usage
>>155212112
>lgtbq
How many more letters are they going to add before the special snowflake crowd is happy? LGB I could get behind, it should have stopped there. Everything past that is pure attention whores.
>>155212273
The nerfed version is actually fucking stronger for memefinders. Increased charges used doesn't matter when you get them back so easy, shocks you doesn't matter because lolimmunetoshock and it fucking permashocks enemies now.
>>155212643
which is why people go pathfinder you dingus
immune to status is nothing compared to what you just listed
im trying out mathils current poison st build and im having a blast.
the only time i had fun like this before in poe was doing dual wield cybils incinerate back when it still shotgunned and you could tank anything with just that.
but fuck lvl 20 added chaos gems are expensive as fuck and i had no luck corrupting about 5 so far.
apart from srs ive never seen boss health disappear so fast. its like the boss is deleted from existance.
also my first time playing pathfinder and i think i fell in love with stibnite flasks.
>>155212643
Master Surgeon is the real villain in all of this.
Fuggen Vulnerability/PhysReflect made me use Moonbender and Phys to Lightning.
But, it's actually not a big sacrifice at all.
Going to remember this neat trick to feel safe in reflect.
>>155212745
>>155212745
I gotta do some testing but I think it is possible to drop it if you use vinktar's a bit more sparingly (as opposed to spamming the fuck out of it).
If you stack flask effect and reduced flask usage from gear.
All the other flasks absolutely never run out of charges anyways.
Anyone wants to be part of my lmaoroflcopter guild? ecks de
>>155212832
post your normal dagger
>>155212832
wouldn't IC + armour (Rumi's) + leech protect you against phys ref anyway?
>>155213529
no
fuck no
>>155212745
I don't even use Master Surgeon, you're spending 4 ascendancy points on a bunch of useless shit to get just that one mod.
You can get away without using it, and all the other things on the Pathfinder tree are pants on head retarded insane.
>>155209326
Buff life, nerf mitigation methods
Fucking DESTROY leech.
>>155211807
More like it deals a lot per second
>>155211807
It's degen. You can't facetank it unless you got instant leech and huge dps. You cannot spellblock or spelldodge it. Actually the entire Shaper fight was probably designed so you cannot max block cheese it.
>>155208806
How did you get this much with 3k life?
>>155211454
Actually first time I see someone making a pretty good point in defense of spike damage. Didn't even think about it like that.
I still think life nodes especially around the right side of the tree could use a slight buff. Evasion characters are the ones that are most vulnerable to one shots because they usually have fuckall phys reduction and a chunk of evasion and dodge. Top that off with a low life pool and you're ready to be one shot with one mistake, lag spike, unexpected shit or bad dodge RNG.
>>155209607
>He didn't see
https://youtu.be/_t49sm6arV4
>>155214410
Atlas is account wide, this is a new character
>>155212112
The reason those people need their own guild is the reason they're so fucked in the head and nobody likes them.
If you'd just act like a normal person then nobody would give a shit about who you fuck or how you like to fuck.
>>155214526
Oh right.
>>155212734
>i think i fell in love with stibnite flasks.
I found this love in this league as well. Though I despise pathfinder because in general I hate being flask reliant and an entire ascendancy for flasks just spells trouble.
>>155214612
cringe
NICE SERVERS POETARDS
why is hegemony 80 chaos on poetrade
Ded game, ded servers.
>Live in shit hole country
>servers don't go down
Feels good
>>155214886
>>155214948
How much are you paying on a monthly basis to play this game again? Oh wait. It's completely free you fucking retards.
>>155215104
back into the game, Soda.
I can't log in, THANKS JEWS
lmfao fucking europoor shits
>>155215437
Kid, don't make me call you a retard cuz I will do it
wtf I love PoE servers now
post your BEST mapping songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te-nq9A8Ops
>>155213529
It totally does negate reflect, but what happens if IC/Rumi's/Vinktar goes down? BOOM!
This was mostly a problem because Chimera
Thing is I have zero armour so Physical hit me like 4 times as hard as Elemental reflect does.
Luckily this is never a problem against single reflect monsters, but if it's a map mod, you must respect it.
>>155215820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWTfl4MJ1c
imagine if you poetards could channel their pure concentrated autism towards the game into something else
if they started running, they'd be ultra marathoners
if they started doing math, they'd win fields medal
if they learned a language, they'd become a fluent translator in 6 months
but instead they play a trading simulator skinner box
path of wasted potential
>can't enter instances
SHUT IT DOWN, THE GAME IS OVER
>caved in and bought a currency stash tab
best purchase of my life, this should come with the base game but eh
8 euros for 400 hours of game time, worth it
>>155216915
once you go p2w you never go clean
>>155216915
Bet you trade without 3d party tools, lump of putrid asscrust.
>>155217264
3rd party? more like 3rd world lmao
this massive fucking lag
>>155215820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUd0dFhS1eI
So simple, so good
>>155216162
Why do black people love anime so much?
>>155216440
Yeah, it's wasted potential. But ultimately life is pointless and you should waste it with what you enjoy, right?
any other fat neet losers here besides me
>>155209225
Build more life. Stun and chills are based off of your life pool. If you go into the fight with shitty health pool and low cold res, you'll get stunlocked into his sword waves. You can halfway cap your cold res in normal with a couple white rings from the vendor recipe if needed, throw a couple alts at your gear and you should be able to cap at least one res at a time for each boss if you don't have "good leveling gear"
>>155218745
yeah me right here
Nth for magic find is the most fun, even tho your dps is shit and you cant clear high tier maps lootsplosions 24/7 makes up for it.
>>155216915
>played for 2 weeks and bought $200 worth of stuff
i playhardcore too
>>155218876
yeah but only if you go balls deep with increased IIQ too
>>155218801
I know that, and its funny because I just faced him with the most health I ever had in act 4N, around 1900
but as I said my armor and resists were pretty bad too
>>155213591
Nah. Nerf ele resists so they can balance mitigation as a whole rather than have all but one damage type be reduced to 1/4 or less by default. Then buff mitigation methods and nerf life; flat life is the most boring defense possible.
How likely is it to RIP with Voltaxic+LA after the 100%-> 60% nerf on ele reflect maps?
How are your maps, exile?
>>155220090
stuck on t15s
>>155220090
Just got to them, doing t1 atm.
>>155215820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM
I'm reaving through every map with this song.
>>155219750
fucking answer me cunts
>>155221315
do the math yourself you fucking NERD
>>155221315
no one cares about your characters life
just try it out faggot
>>155221315
the real question is, what kind of fucking moron would do a bow build this league? hf being stuck on t12 maps with ur fucking memerain that cant even kill a ghost.
Looking at these wannabe CoC builds made with Eye of Innocence, couldn't you basically do something like this with Mjölner Discharge?
Juggernaut + Eye of Innocence for Endurance charge generation, RT + Romira for Power charges, Discharge with 2 links on Mjölner for maximum damage and you get some time to generate more charges because of the cooldown they introduced.
>>155221531
go play BV kiddo
>>155221427
>>155221364
suck my big white cock
>>155220090
Doing T1s and i'm confused as to what to do for the bonus objective, what is a magic boss exactly?
>>155222296
read it again you idiot
fuck that I cant play with 200ms
>>155222601
welcome to my world
So I'm coming back to poe after a long time of not playing (last played beyond league). I'm using this league to just reacquaint myself with the game. I rolled a generic earthquake build but now I want to try out something different. Any recommendations on interesting builds I should try out? I only have about 2 ex in currency at the moment, so the cheaper the better.
>>155223306
>Any recommendations on interesting builds I should try out?
Could you be any vaguer
>>155222295
Nothing short of 12' can sate my thirst, are you up for the task?
Also; there is a absolutely nothing wrong with Blade Vortex.
>>155224242
i play bv and i completely agree that bv is broken
Daily reminder that ProjectPT is an autistic dyslexic weirdo.
>>155224713
as if we could forget
>>155207086
Did you actually craft prefixes can't be changed on that?
I got nothing today, ripped all maps.
I'm so fucking bad at rocket league holy shit
I really try to improve and got hooked, the gameplay is amazing, but I'm just fucking terrible
feelsbadman
>>155219750
Wew Selena is a cutie. Much cuter than Taylor desu
>>155225036
no, i paid someone to do it for me
>>155226263
You know it doesn't actually save the prefixes when you use an essence, right?
>>155226271
?
>>155224713
Truly /ourguy/
>>155224713
you dont understand the sacrifices PPT has made in order to bring us consistent high quality content
he left his job (and with it, any sense financial security) and GF in order to produce PoE content FULL TIME
>>155224340
Aha, with "nothing wrong" I meant as in no weakness.
It's totally busted powerlevel-wise.
>find a 6 link
>it's corrupted
>finally find Zara after 6 gorillions map
> mission is to clear another Master's mission inside Zara map
>start sweating
>Go inside and see Vorici name pop up on the minimap
>start sweating profusely
>click on Vorici
>mission is to kill target without killing the guards
>Scream internally
people who play whispering meme and people who have the unearthed hideout should be shot
>>155228538
>Wahhhh I can't kite the target away from the guards
>>155229398
>>155229398
Fucking how? I run a flicker strike build. Everytime i right click the screen explode. And the guard can easily 10 hit me and there are tons of them. Since when is including assassination mechanics in ARPG allowed? Not even Assassin Creed or Dishonor have the mandatory target only mode
>>155229398
>tfw they're in a dungeon map all huddled in one room
>>155230868
Switch out your flicker strike fordouble strike:^)
>>155228538
Finally having a char that could without fuss clear most Vorici quests is nice, though it feels kind of unwieldy to play after pianofinder meme vortex ruined me.
>>155230868
decoy totems work wonders for those
if i don't have 4k hp is there any point in playing beyond 85 or should i just reroll BV?
following some noob templar build, and I thought I was doing ok, but seeing shit like 15khp and 100k dps makes me think im gimped as fuck
i miss srs_clown
>>155231535
Flicker strike is my primary defensive mechanic because it dodge 80% of attack. If i take it out I am dead
>>155232430
I can't control my char when I am flickering and boss usually got baited by the decoys too
>>155230868
>I run a flicker strike build
non blade vortex builds need to fucking die already
>>155233395
>not playing the sasuke build jumping around Izaro every 0.1s while he desperately flailing at you
>>155198068
This nerf would not hit evenly. But sure. PF is too strong, it'd need more than a nerf to VP.
>>155233609
how many shaper kills you got?
thought so.
>>155232563
Under 4k is really low, even with decent defenses on softcore. If you've not been stringent on hp nodes, start looking at getting enough t1 life roll gear. If you're not rich, that generally means sacrificing offense.
Or reroll to another build, the game got 10 times more fun for me after I decided to reroll after trying some shitter newbie (coincidentally templar) build from a streamer as my first character earlier this year. There are plenty of builds that can do a nice mix of fast movement, okay defense and decent clear speed at not too high a cost.
>>155232953
she's still here
>>155233918
I am still gated at the guardian because of the shit drop
>>155234291
is he a tranny now
sorry, she
>>155234061
yeah, I'm 72/75 bock/spell block and 12k armor without flasks/charges etc. - I'm doing ok on what maps I've found up to t11/12 alched, but everything i read screams you must have xxxkhp to do this/that/thr other etc.
I'll reroll what non-uniques I have for more hp and see how it goes
ta
Shaper is so casual to kill now lmao
why do turdbirds expect people to pay up front for everything?
>>155207086
What are those colored things on the left? Did they change the way skillgems look or something?
I haven't played since 2014 or so.
>>155236646
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Essence
>>155236773
Oh I see, thanks anon.
This game has changed a lot.
worth anything, or is everyone running marohi?
>>155236845
this is a new item type for this league and the league is only 3 weeks old
New player here.
Can someone reccomend me a decent necromancer build?
>>155236882
Read OP
Also,
http://poe.trade/search/yorainusiwawat
http://poe.trade/search/tehonouwobimah
Your weapon before quality only has 340 or so dps, with no crit modifier
>>155237357
i would, but tits are disgusting
sorry anon try again
If anyone wants to join the /v/ discord we have quite a few PoE players for anyone who may wanna join!https://discord.gg/Z9TTar9
>>155217839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNE2oCZH_4k
how viable would it be to use orbs of chance on flasks to get unique flasks for a pathfinder build?
>>155237643
>join server
>get bullied
thanks but no thanks...
Thinking of doing something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHuK7yiJq1Y but as Inquisitor, is losing the base crit chance from assassin that big of a deal? would just using inc crit strikes be shit?
is it me or does it take forever to get back to lvl 70
>>155238108
>>155237357
guys
seriously
BLADE VORTEX
do it!
>>155237643
>/v/
gross
>>155238191
your own fucking fault for dying like a noob
deal with it and quit bitching
What's a good build pair to play with my gf (male) ?
was selling decent roll rare chest armor in trade chat for 5 alteration orbs
>do you really need 5 alts?
what do you want to pay for it
>invited to party
>invited to trade
>put the chest piece in he puts 5 chaos in
>"get rid of the chest you can have these for free"
its only 5alts dude
>leave party
did that guy want to fuck me
>>155238409
Eh, I'd fuck it.
>>155238390
i didnt know using a TP in maps back to the labratory wouldnt reset my flasks, so i walked in and died to the marshlands boss
there should be huge shortcuts in the main content for experienced players. even running though zones takes considerable amount of time
>>155229930
The same way Malachai get there 300 years ago
>>155238530
>i didnt know using a TP in maps back to the labratory wouldnt reset my flasks
>there should be huge shortcuts in the main content for experienced players
>experienced players
>i didnt know
>experienced
>over 4k accuracy
>95%
CHRIS
>>155238415
he was just being nice and you told him to fuck off, what the fuck dude
>>155238860
autism anon.
>>155238771
You never played DnD? No matter how strong you were in the system, there was still a chance to roll a critical fail (d20 roll)
>>155237643
>join server
>literally 2-3 people spamming memes and @everyone for no reason
No thanks.
>>155238108
without the base crit for assasin that build doesnt work
>>155237584
>tits are disgusting
what a faggot
>try to join /v/ discord
>immediately assumes my gender, harasses me for what games i play and wants to know my address so he can get some "white sugar"
At least I can be alone in poeg, thanks, you're my safe space. Thank you for being you.
what the fuck is the beast tho?
>>155237643
>discordfags
>have avatars
>have pseudonyms
>shows what they're playing atm
>constant spam of memes and blogging
So how exactly are you not more cancerous than reddit itself?
>>155239608
I love you you fucking slut
Should I kill myself if I'm trying to play life BV?Or will monsters do it for meDon't really feel like going CI.
>doing FB build
>pick up white items
>autoequip
Can i disable it or what's the best way to equip a weapon and fail the requirements? I got like 100+ of each stat and I'm only 54
I just got an albino rhoa feather as a drop
Do I sell it or is it a meme?
>>155240021
mcfucking kill yourself you stupid noob
>>155240021
hide white weapons on your filter
>>155239608
You're welcome.
We at /poeg/ have always strived to make this forum a #safespace
Thins you will never have to deal with here are:
Cultural Appropriation
Slut-shaming
Fat-shaming
Cissexism/ Cissupremecy
Heterosexism
Ace erasure
Bi erasure/ Monosexism
Ableism
Sexism / Misogyny
Trans-misogyny
Racism
Dyadism
Binarism
Mental illness- shaming
Multiplicity Hate
Otherkin Hate
That said, SHITCORERS OUT
>>155240021
There's a ui option to disable autoequip
>catposter buying boss kills from etup
lmao
is it possible to find love as a neet who plays poe 10 hours a day
>>155239906
It's possible, but you need another extra buffer like MoM to compete with CI and not die to volatiles. The good news is you get dual sustain (life and mana) if you use WM/boots enchant. Using a Carcass also significantly improves your clear speed/survivability as 20 inc AoE is huge on BV and there is no way to get as much as CI.
>>155240207
only if you dont mind same-sex love
>>155240163
>Racism
Don't get me wrong. I didn't mean to offend. I'd be happy to loan him some sugar but it's not what he asked for.
I have 30-some stashes. I buy a 50 bucks supporter pack every other league, not because I want to have purple footprints but just to support. Most tabs are filled with crap. Like I have one of every unique stashed away for some reason - and some of them are god awful and should be fixed.
I have found 9 exalts over the years. I have spent two (on my items).
Race seasons are kinda meh. I know I won't get enough points to get the really cool rewards, and I play PoE to relax, not to compete (which should be obvious by now). But if I get the pop-up I sometimes join if it 1 hour or less.
I got two characters in standard. A heavy strike/groundslammer I just flat out refuse to change (to Earthquake or whatever). He has died more than 500 times. I am annoyed when I must reallocate his skill points after a new patch. He is level 86 and has my only 6-linked item: a chestpiece on a poor base. I just hit it with fuses because it had three resists and got lucky (I used less than 10). I like playing him. Content has to be easy for him to survive, and every so often I throw him out where he dies and ensures I will stay forever at level 86. Usually chaos damage or traps. The other used to be an Incinerator but he doesn't work at all after 2.0 so I just don't delete him because he happens to be level 89.
I won't abandon standard because of all my accumulated currency and levelled masters. It is good to have a place to go if the current league isn't my cup of tea. I peak out in yellow maps content-wise. Can't do uber-lab or atziri though I am willing to try. Helps keeping my guys from getting too many levels ;)
>>155240207
what's your ign...
>>155240163
>Ace erasure
lmao
so ggg wont acknowledge the server issues right now ?
>>155240205
u mad bro
>>155240798
>admitting fault as a game company
That's for morons. Look at Blizzard, they don't, look where it got them.
>>155240205
he buys merciless izaro kill too, he's bottom of the barrel tier
>>155240889
so much for "elite" hardcore players
lmao
>>155240971
i'm top fucking percentile bub
>>155240798
>not having your isp on speed dial
>>155241127
in poeg maybe
compared to the elite players of reddit, you're a literal scrubshit
>tfw your mapping buddy dies
>>155241127
>i'm top fucking percentile bub
In a videogame where 96% of players don't reach maps.
That's not necessarily decent.
>having a mapping buddy
is that how you call being carried those days?
>>155241334
newb here, doesn't the game become harder the more player is in it, you know, like in d2?
>>155241502
yes but a supportcuck can boost you enough to make up for it
>>155241502
monster extra life per player: 50%
assuming the second player has at least half the dps of the first (or boosts him significantly with auras), the game gets easier not harder in multiplayer
>>155241669
>>155241705
Ah, we're wrong.
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Partying
Whatever, it's still better than solo.
>tfw watching my gf play with her BIG cock and balls while i map
i'm so FUCKIGN lucky
>>155241654
what's this from?
>>155241669
>health doubles
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Partying#Effect_on_monsters
>Monsters gain extra life for each additional party member after the first: 20% in Normal, 40% in Cruel, and 60% in Merciless.
>>155241868I know anon. Sorry for being misleading I'l delete my post ;_;
>>155241201
lebbort is garbage
top players like my'reself don't associate with that palce
>>155241982
how convenient it is not to compare yourself to the best, but to the losers, the dregs of wraeclast that end washed up here
forever king of a small pond
>the best player
The best player is the one that has the most fun.
Players like that chuisibao(?) guy or ghassy are among the best. Probably among the top 5%.
>>155241946
>deleting your post
>>155242208
>ghassy
>plowing past a4cruel with a 3l skill and still melting everything
>havent upgraded antything since a3n
this game is casual
>>155242307
>i'm doing very well in the tutorial guys!
cool story, let us know when you start the real game
>>155242307
>cruel
the fun starts in merciless
Anyone have a graph of how the objective difficulty of this game looks? Like damage resistance to monster damage ratio's and how much DPS is required compared to potential rolls/spell gem levels?
>>155242506
Are you fucking retarded? Difficulty doesn't work that way.
Anyone here who bots in maps?
When should I start alching?
>>155241789
>tfw no trap gf to play poe with
>>155242650
is that alkaizerx
>>155242650
Alkaizer...?
what is your opinion on this man?
>>155242894
2 words:
sell
out
>>155242894
TWITCHTARDS OUT
>>155242089
lol there are about 15 people in poeg who are better than me
>>155242732
>>155242769
fuck now i cant jerk off to this picture
>>155243263
Why? He obviously wants you to.
>>155243247
of course there are, what matters is your own little delusion
How long do Projectiles from bow skills travel offscreen?
And what affects the travel distance?
>>155243723
>How long do Projectiles from bow skills travel offscreen?
Dunno exactly but at least 2 screens.
>And what affects the travel distance?
For FP projectile speed matters. And given how lazy GGG is I'm pretty sure we can assume that extrapolates to all projectiles.
>>155243723
proj speed
Does Elementalist Shaper of Desolation work with totems?
>>155243723
stop posting ugly bitch
>>155244012
Um rude?
>>155243854
>>155243843
So basically if you go pierce+project speed you can off screen more efficiently than with chain?
>>155243723
>How long do Projectiles from bow skills travel offscreen?
The question you should be asking is really "how far", not "how long."
For bow skills, there is a fixed distance that may or may not vary from skill to skill that is give or take equal to 2-screen width.
>And what affects the travel distance?
As noted above, nothing. Projectile speed merely affects how fast arrows travel. The behavior is generally different for spells with a fixed *duration*, e.g. EK, Incinerate, Freezing Pulse, etc.
You think I can do shaper /poeg/?
Got 11k tooltip on my inquisitor FB totem dude.
13k ES, using temp chains.
Dunno what his healthlevels are, wanna know before I try him on EHC.
>>155243843
They just go until they reach their sleep zone. You're not going to hit anything outside of that because it's not there anyway
>>155244310
Chain is far more effective because stacking a lot of projectile speed is hard.
Also this guy might not be full of shit >>155244435
>>155244502
ehp is enough
dps is garbage
how do you even get to t16 maps with that?
>>155243419
>delusion
i know my place
i wanna do a build with chain, which are the great gems which can carry me above t10 maps
>>155244649
>11k tooltip flameblast is garbage
post your char
>tfw just scammed a noob hard
Like, fuck. I just forgot to remove that ring. It's from early on in the league where I just put up every piece of jewlery in my p2w tab instead of vendoring it.
I feel bad.
>>155244704
Lightning Arrow
Ice Spear
Fire Ball
>>155244783
what ascendancy would go best with ice spear? do i get chain gem or item that got chain
>>155244771
its not a scam if the buyer gets exactly what he is purchasing
its just a poor purchase
>>155244771
maybe he was gearing up for LLD pvp
good ring with an elreon life mod
>>155244897
inquisitor is probably the best bet
>>155244917
Anon it's req 8. it's bad for everything above level 8.
How do the Hardcore players of /poeg/ cope with death?
>>155245130
how presumptuous of you to assume level 8s can't pvp
>>155245239
sometimes they don't play
sometimes they play
>>155245239
quit and then spend three months talking shit about GGG in /poeg/ until the new league
>>155245239
delete character
reroll with same name
>>155215820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U57enRP-mfw
i don't even understand 5 words of german but i really like the sound of this one
is it worth starting a character on standard to familiarize myself with endgame content?
>>155245804
its a song about welcoming refugees
5.5k hp with 2.7k dps tooltip
Can I do uber lab with this?
>>155246413
nobody here actually plays this game
>>155246413
what skill
>>155246253
no
>>155246454
Flicker strike. Even with full stack frenzy I only has near 4k dps. How can you guys get above 20k is beyond me
>>155246461
god i always get really horny when i see atziri dancing in the add phase
her titties are on point
dead thread
dead game
>>155247421
>>155247421
You got this anon!
>>155246461
Witcha cute
>>155240021
shit build
>>155246546
Are you sure that's your real DPS? Tooltip DPS isn't reliable and I'm sure Flicker Strike isn't correct.
mfw i can't beat uber izaro or be bothered trying again
>>155248138
are you on essence?
i can carry you if you're smart enough to not die to traps
>hardcucks
>>155246546
>>155248113
flicker displays average damage, not dps
>>155248138
it's not like this game is fun or engaging anyways
get a life frogposter
>Molten Shell is badFlame Guard
>Flicker Strike is badSleight of Fist - unless you use it in a non-Flicker build then it's bad Blink Strike
badSearing Chains when?
I want LoL fags to leave.
>>155248546
>dotard mad that League is the bigger game
>>155248546
>>155248662
Cancer is bigger than aids too.
>>155248662
>>155248728
I don't play nor care about either of the games.
But you caring about the playerbase size means you should fuck off.
How do we fix the ARPG genre?
lets not.
>>155249083
it's fixed already just play Path of Exile
>>155248728
You should've included poe lol
>>155244771
You didn't really scam him when he knew what he was purchasing and the cost before whispering you.
>>155249083
D3 exists
nothing to fix
>>155249215
>>155248230
How do I calculate Flicker strike dps from tooltip? And is flicker strike affected by attack speed?
>>155249215Most games on the website is bad
Necro aura bot looking for someone to run some maps t8+
>>155249521
ESC?
>>155249521
HC? Do you MF?
>>155249607
>>155249617
I play hc. not an mf setup
Ign gensou
>>155249617
who the fuck mf supports anymore
>>155249829
Idk. But, never trust a friend when they ask you to roll support.
We were supposed to kill shaper.. Instead he is off playing fuckin runescape.
>>155249905
nice
are you gensou? if not and you're playing on sc i could probably get you a shaper kill
What are the best not extremely expensive uniques to skin transfer? Preferably Chest or Head.
>Duelist
>branching into Scion/Marauder for life and melee stuffs
>hmmm they got like no life let me check the skill tree
>only 9 fucking life nodes in the whole section of duelist
>Shadow has 15 - including ES to boot
>Ranger has 17
>b-but the Scion
>b-but life leech
>>155250063
alt art alpha's howl
legacy shavs/kaoms maybe alt art demi chests
>>155250159
The whole duelist build is now focusing on either evasion on Shadow side or Life on Marauder side. My build go all the way up to Cruel Preparations in the Witch area. I have maybe 20 points for damage and 10 for other misc. The rest is strength and hp
Everyone knows this right? I never see anyone do it. They do that stupid "use a different ring" bullshit.
>>155250665
no, I've always used a different ring
>>155250736
Wow, what a shitter.
>>155250665
i'm not poor so i dont have to vendor rings
>>155250826
I do it for fun.
Seriously, looking at rolls is fun. Especially on decent bases, shame there's the steel rings and whatnot now.
>>155250063
The alt art thousand ribbons is pretty legit, it's a pity they didn't do more chest rewards
when your mf culler aura guardian dies :((((((((((
>>155252684
tell him to revive and come back in the map
Help. I can't decide on a witch ascendancy for whispering ice. None of them are that amazing for it to be honest. I should've gone for Inquisitor, but it's too late for that now.
>>155253178
Are you CI autist? Occultist
Are you retarded? Necro
Do you want an obvious answer?
Elementalist
50% less elemental reflect
Double Golems and double Golem effects
25% Inc AoE or 100% Spell Damage for 4 seconds.
>Viable build is boring as fuck
>Fun build is useless past normal
Is there any viable AND fun build?
>>155253575
Name a 'fun' skill.
>>155253575
not liking the meta this league tbqwyf
>>155253575
desu i find warchief totes pretty fun fampire
HOW DO I PLAY THIS GAME SMOKIE?
>>155253905
>>>/rog/
>>155253178
occultist is fine
necro is fotm but you get offerings at least
Scrub here
is it possible to play this game without trading or interacting with people? i can't into friends phams
DUDE MULTIPLICATIVE DAMAGE
>>155254169
yes
but you literally dont have to talk to people to trade outside of copy and pasting a message from poe.trade
>>155254169
yes
but at least buying stuff makes your life a lot easier for gear, selling can be tedious but buying is just a whisper away and fairly cheap for how much shit people throw away
>>155254169
its possible but you wont like it. drop rates are balanced around trading, not self found
i dont play with people or have friends ingame, yet i trade plenty. its extremely useful to get builds going
>>155248138
nice fucking build
What's good op endgame builde besides BV (already made life/mom BV and it sucks hard).
>>155252772
>>155254592
>life/mom BV
Is this game alive and is it worth getting into it?
>>155255342
>game alive
Very much so by ARPG standards or general game standards.
>worth getting into
No.
>>155255342
wanna play together cutie?
>>155255439
>>worth getting into
>No.
what game should I get into?
I want an alternative to Warframe because waiting for stuff in Warframe takes long
>>155255342
>game alive
Not really by ARPG standards or general game standards.
>worth getting into
Yes.
>>155254716
As long as it's pathfinder, it doesn't really matter.
>>155255503
r?ain.
>>155255502
sure
>>155255609
what do you mean?
>>155255503
>I want an alternative to Warframe
Ah, you're like that. Well this could be OK. It's similar in many ways. But more depth in builds to my experience (though I only have like 3 level 30's and only one that's quite stacked)
>what game should I get into?
A fun game which doesn't bait you with things like time-exclusive content. A game that provides a unique challenge over and over or a game where you have a sense of personal development.
A list of games that fit at least one of these categories would be:
>Dota or any moba in general
I'd recommend the upcoming Battlerite. Releases tomorrow, tons of newbies. Look to Bloodline champions for reference. I played it for ~3 years and it's a very good game with deep combat and is very quick to pick up and put down. It got screwed by having Funcom as its publisher, but aside from that and the side effects of that publisher it's a great game and a great studio.
>Puzzle games
I might recommend The Witness because it's fucking amazing, seriously anon it's potentially the best game of all time
>arena FPS games
Currently the most alive one is Quake live, but I wouldn't recommend getting into it. I'd recommend a CPMA type game rather, Quake 3 arena CPMA is an option but Reflex is more rewarding in my opinion and has constant development so you will feel it's good.
>Strategy games
Offer you a very
>card games
Hearthstone and the like. I find Hearthstone to be the least interesting among the available choices. It starts you off in a spot where you're restricted to essentially the very very basic idea of card games. No potential for interesting mechanic explorations and such. Arena is kinda screwed right now too since it's both super competitive and has major balance issues.
Duelyst is a game i'd rather recommend. It has an interesting mechanic to it from the start and you get to challenge yourself with decisions for a long time. It also has a web-client which you can open right now at https://beta.duelyst.com/
cont.?
>>155256241
>Battlerite
>Hearthstone
lel
>>155256241
just play poe man
>>155256339
>>155256391
Also don't listen to biases like these. They're unfounded and don't really consider the enjoyment they get from the game.
>>155256492
>founded
>biases
>'lel' is now a bias
>'just play poe' is now an unfounded bias that doesn't consider the enjoyment from the game
>>>in fucking Path of Exile General
>>155256241
>>Strategy games
>Offer you a very
Forgot this..
Often offer you a very deep experience. But I find most lacking today. I'd ask 4X general or gsg for advice on this.
Though they're obviously elitists like everyone else.
>>155255503
>>155255503
poe early game experience is not nearly as polished as current wf early game
be warned, the game wont hold your hand
>>155256683
>unfounded
Without proper support.
>bias
A predisposition. Motivation from outside an argument.
>just play poe
An unfounded bias in as few words possible.
>lel
Doesn't imply anything eh? I interpreted it as "these are bad games". But without a motivation for why it's a pointless statement to anyone who actually cares.
>>155256241
Thanks for the list but I really want to try out MMORPGs but I'm not interested in any Fantasy Lore shit, I just want to have complex & rewarding combats.
Warframe has cool combats but is not really complex and has a lot of waiting inbetween.
I never played any of the Diablo games, thats why I'm looking at PoE as the game I *could* start playing.
I stopped playing League of Legends after I got to diamond. Don't want to re-learn a new moba
(rip dawngate best moba)
I'm not much of a Quake guy but I played all of the Counter Strike games for multiple hundreds of hours so I'm not looking for an alternative FPS either.
I also played Starcraft a lot until the latest expansion got released and since it's probably one of the more complex strategy games I'm not looking for one of those either.
So I'm just gonna ask:
Will PoE give me hours of grinding without pushing me into a Pay2Win situation?
Will PoE offer me a community that actively participates in raids/quests/events?
And willPoE end the suffering?
>>155249361
>Runescape has more viewes than PoE
Let along that RS still exists after, what, 12 years?
>>155257049
Too bad, PoE has P2W in the form of stash tabs.
No it just prolongs the suffering.
>>155254169
Trading requires basically no human interaction. You just paste a canned response, get invited, trade, and say ty4scam.
>>155257049
>Will PoE give me hours of grinding without pushing me into a Pay2Win situation?
People claim P2W because stash tabs can be restricting. But really no. Most of your loot is junk, like everything but 4-5 items in my 8 premium stash tabs is pure junk. You will approximately need one stash tab for currency, one for divination cards, one for essences or other malarkey like junk for your character and then maybe 1 for selling items. Premium stash tabs make listing items much easier but there's https://github.com/xyzz/acquisition/releases which supplements all the functionality and lets you search the tabs easier. So they're really not necessary. Either way none of the shit you gather before you're in maps is gonna be worth shit so playing the game until then is 100% non-p2w. And any inconveniences you face is just due to your inexperience in understanding what's worth keeping or not.
>Will PoE offer me a community that actively participates in raids/quests/events?
There's a lot of solo players. It's not a "event" game like that at all. It's more of a party game. you can find a group of players you play with regularly but there's no actual events outside of what goals you've set for yourself. And on top of that for a new player to get to a stage where that starts to make sense could take months. Without tutoring.
>And willPoE end the suffering?
No. Only good routine, exercise and careful introspection into what you want to accomplish does that.eh, too much effort
>Don't want to re-learn a new moba
Ok, well Battlerite is more of a fighting game. And it only has like 15 characters. It's not that kind of game at all while it's technically a moba it's 100% pvp. Not gonna sell it to you though.
>I never played any of the Diablo games
ARPG's are quite nice.
>>155257049
>Will PoE give me hours of grinding without pushing me into a Pay2Win situation?
stash tabs are a huge QOL improvement. i would hesitate to claim anyone should play without at least 6. so no
>Will PoE offer me a community that actively participates in raids/quests/events?
no. poe doesnt have events as such like WF does. unless you have a group, its hard to get people to do anything but the simplest most yolo shit
>And willPoE end the suffering?
no
>>155257671
p.s., certainly less p2w than my experience with warframe.
>>155257795
are you retarded? poe is infinitely more p2w than warframe
>>155257795
>ninjaweeb
>can get EVERYTHING without spending a dime, as long as you grind
>game about australia
>you need to spend monies on stash tabs and no way around it
>>155257795
>>155257673
>>155257671
>>155257308
Ok I'm downloading.
Thanks for answering my questions guys
>>155241334
Most of my mapping is done with a friend but he always has a build that moves like two times as fast and clears much faster too.
>>155257902
Elaborate because last I played the grind to reach high levels with each character was quite substantial. And the grind to get those potatoes that let you expand character slots, or make a weapon viable for anything but the most trivial game content were all paid for stuff. Sure, you can grind for it. Doesn't make it less pay to win because you can grind to it.
They were stupid cheap too. If we're to draw analogies the potatoes were like buying a spend a jewel 6 link an item. Far more p2w.
In PoE you have plenty of character slots and most characters you play don't reach levels where replacing them would be a big deal.
>>155257923
Oh yeah if we're talking about such arbitrary standards sure. You can't get everything in PoE for free. Additional stash tabs means muling which really isn't a big issue for anyone who has tried it.
Either way the focus on that is dumb. The focus should be on how much grind to money spent there is.
In PoE there's no way of buying any power (aside from RMT, which Warframe also has). So Warframe to me is far more pay to win.
Is the 40% increased Lightning Arrow Damage enchant good enough to warrant 1-2ex?
>>155257795
dumbest
post
this
thread
woah
>Reserve 33/667 mana
>Equip conquers efficiency
>33/667 mana reserved
Am i missing something here or is a rounding issue, i'd expect to gain about 10 mana
>>155258468
existence of a cash shop doesnt make a game p2w
lack of alternatives to it do
lol if you think stash tabs aren't p2w desu
How do you guys manage mana on a 6 link flameblast? I hate spamming flasks all the time but mana regen doesn't seem to cut it.
How do you even win in poe? what are you paying for?
>>155259018
EB
ZO
>>155259018
>>155259118
there is no default winning condition for open-ended games
beat whatever new content temp leagues have? reach level 100 on hc? amass wealth? etc. up to anyone's fancy
>>155258789
Existance of a cash shop doesn't make a game p2w.
Being able to buy power in the game makes a game pay to win.
In PoE you can supplement all purchases that are potentially P2W with effort, mules and such. it's a type of grind. Imo it makes the game far worse, but the game being far worse doesn't make it p2w.
It's simply a worse free experience.
In Warframe you're able to directly buy power. you pay the game company, they give you 30 more points to spend on mods for your gun, which make practically all the power in the weapon. You can spend that platinum on trading with other players. Rare cards or materials, skipping the grind. The only thing you lack is leveling your characters, which while is a bit of a chore isn't that much really. Especially not with the OP weapons.
In Warframe you can buy your way to a level 100 equivalent pretty much. Aside from certain exclusive items which you can't trade for. They're account locked essentially.
So Warframe is more p2w than PoE by this idea of p2w.
And you're all fucking children for thinking otherwise. Really, it's not a new thing. You can't just uproot terminology because you'd prefer to have things not be a certain way.
>>155250063
I always thought Icetomb was pretty cool. Ashrend, Geofri's Sanctuary and Zahndethus' Cassock too.
It all depends quite a bit what you're going for.
>>155259574
>In PoE you can supplement all purchases that are potentially P2W with effort, mules and such.
>>155259574
This game is not for you anon, you're actually best in a padded cell because your head's fucking broken.
>>155259831
>>155259574
oops, this wasn't for you.
>>155259831
>padded cell
Jokes on you I'm playing from my padded cell.
Fucking normie.
>>155259574
you can buy frames and weapons in WF, but the best shit isnt even in the cash shop, you gotta farm it or do the event. yes you can still buy it from other players but both games have a player market
and even the shit you buy, you gotta level it. xp aint free
you are trying to push your arbitrary p2w definition only so that wf can be qualified as being more p2w than poe, but your arguments on the matter are rather paper thin as nothing you buy in the WF cash shop is as experience defining as stash tabs are in poe
If PoE isn't P2W I'm sure you'd settle for having 1 stash tab - you could just make mules and whatever amirite.
>>155259018
TOTEM
poe is one of the very few f2p games in existence that don't give an alternative for buying power with money
this is objectively one of the most p2w games in the world
>>155260052
I don't even buy stash tabs, are you that shit at the game that you feel you need them?
>>155260052
im certain the little faggot arguing for poe not being p2w doesnt only have the bare 4 starter tabs
i tried to make do with them for 2 entire temp leagues and when i finally gave GGG monies during Talisman league, i regretted not doing it sooner. the QoL improvement is retarded
>>155260005
>but the best shit isnt even in the cash shop
No obviously not.
>yes you can still buy it from other players but both games have a player market
Yeah, so? Both games have a player market but warframe has a officially sponsored RMT market.
>you gotta level it. xp aint free
Oh man tha'ts such a hassle anon. It's like leveling a character from normal to merc approximately. Assuming the level cap is still 30 and nothing drastic changed.
Why so much focus on the cash shop when credits bought in the cash shop is the ingame currency? This extends the cash shop to include all market-purchasable items.
>>155260052
In warframe you also have inverntory space that's limited and can be extended by using money. But their trade system is not designed well enough to allow you to mule effectively.
Really if you haven't muled in this game you really don't have any say in if it's p2w or not.
Fucking discord though.
soon some new IPs will be posting stupid questions trying to derail the topic just like always when we start talking about how shit this game is
>>155260275
>i regretted not doing it sooner. the QoL improvement is retarded
This.
I think I got my first set of tabs in Warbands, second in Talisman and third in Perandus.
smashed merc izaro at level 70
why do people even buy lab runs lol
>>155260275
Did you mule? Because I did play with only 4. The reasons for adding tabs were QoL.
But it's not buying power.
If any of you google "pay to win" you find that PoE doesn't fit that, assuming EULA breakage is off bounds.
Because otherwise every game is gonna be pay to win pretty much. Even chess actually as a really good chess engine can frequently beat regional or national masters.
Doesn't mean you need to reach the peak for it to be p2w.
anyone want to make new characters together on ESC
I want to avoid the shitposting and my last character isn't really suited for end-game, melee sucks
>>155260414
>>155260275
You cancerous fucks, fucking die
>ESC
>>155260579
>ESC
>>155260323
>It's like leveling a character from normal to merc approximately. Assuming the level cap is still 30 and nothing drastic changed.
you only do normal to merc once per char
a gun you gotta level 5-6 times. a frame about the same. unless you are just getting them to farm rank
>Why so much focus on the cash shop
Because there is no guarantee you'd get someone to sell you certain event exclusive thing
>In warframe you also have inverntory space that's limited and can be extended by using money
but you dont HAVE to use money
>Really if you haven't muled in this game you really don't have any say in if it's p2w or not.
I used to play with 4 tabs for like 8 months. Inventory micromanaging and muling at the level you need to do it mid-leagues is not a fun gaming experience in retrospective.
pretty sure there was poll that showed like 80% of people weren't in HC
>comparing a genuine p2w game to PoE
I mean the p2w tabs jokes here are fun but come on. Doesn't even compare to most f2p titles.
it used to be 98%
poeg has been redpilling shitcrows for years and it seems to be working
i've done my part to battle the turdbird scourge, have you?>>155260858
>>155260996
i think the so called shitcrows are infinitely more hardcore than a loser like you that buys boss kills and challenges but that's none of my business
>logoutcore talking shit
go back to your standard league to test your build against shaper lmfao
>>155261110
dying is the antithesis of hardcore, dude
>>155261165
nice critical ignite burn anon
>>155260789
>not a fun gaming experience in retrospective.
Yes. It's not fun. But how penalized are you compared to tab players?
Not that much. Compare it to warframe where you buy your gear. You're far better off than someone starting on a fresh account.
p2w vs QoL improvements.
>>155261187
so is buying boss kills but that doesn't stop you from begging for someone to kill izaro for you
>>155260996
You can't redpill shit, your arguments are too vague and you don't even know how to debate your hollow criticisms. Go back to school.
>can't just pick up every damage node I see
>have to get at least 150% life nodes
poetards?
have you used your kintsugi to reduce passive degen damage today poeg
reminder that some of us are still on the 4 default tabs and all your rhetoric about the game being p2w doesn't apply to us when we play the game just fine with 4 tabs
>>155262013
>get hit for 1 dmg
>lose all your mitigation
kintsugi is a noob trap
>>155262178
With that little currency it's clear that account is only used for running scams.
>>155262178
win a HC demi with only four tabs do it you can'ti did it but it was retarded
>>155262178
where are you on ladder?
>>155261337
not a penalty for not spending
its just a penalty for being new (which exists in every game)
>>155262178
>Fine with 4 tabs
>Ignroes can't trade fast
>And have to beg to chris to list your shit in poeg if you wrote in the forums
>Literally hundreds of chaos lost
>>155262498
It's okay, you'll get better at the game if you keep at it.
A
>>155262458
currency is meant to be consumed, I spent like 5ex alone on the unique maps challenge, shit gets expensive if you don't have a group to pitch in
I'm pretty poor, but would it look any less impressive with a currency tab to keep it all in one place? I'm not even using half of a tab for currency. sure, I don't have a back up of 1000 chaos to go on a crafting spree if I wanted, but do I need/want that? nope
>>155262368
not really relevant, winning a demi is so much more about efficiency and time played than stash size. i.e. give Steel 4 tabs and he'll probably beat you with 20 tabs by a large margin.
as far as the majority of the playerbase is concerned, for things like selling gear and getting enough currency for challenges and general gameplay, 4 tabs is more than fine.
>>155262383
probably rank 1k-nothing, but not really relevant, see above. if you wanted to push ladder hard, certainly having more than 4 tabs would help, but playing a LOT, having a support/group, and playing efficient builds matter so much more in the long run than having 10 extra tabs.
>>155262993
and I fucked up every quote in this message, sorry about that
>>155262993
nooblord
i was rank6 in a 1mo HC race with only four tabs
i know better than almost anyone how badly this game is p2w
you literally can't know what it's like unless you've lived it yourself, so stop pretending
>>155262993
the difference between 4 tabs and 10 tabs is astronomical and you would feel it immediately if you were ever to get more tabs
>>155263313
>i was rank6 in a 1mo HC race with only four tabs
>i know better than almost anyone how badly this game is p2w
so you were top 10 with only 4 tabs, yet the game is p2w? I don't follow. would that not meant the opposite? that one can reach the top without paying any extra to buy tabs?
Speaking of the P2W tabs.How often does the 6 premium tabs bundle go on sale?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11263572
>>155263572
>Haredcore
>>155263462
i was at a massive disadvantage, retard
stop replying to me
you're below me
>>155263648
just like you were at massive disadvantage for not playing more efficiently like rank 1.
your bragging supports the idea that the game is not p2w far more than the opposite.
never reply to me again
>>155263648
Your face is a massive disadvantage.
Honestly idk why we even bother with these idiots who just call everything p2w
>>155262993
>currency is meant to be consumed
>i traded it
what?
anyone wanna play ehc
who cares if it's p2w lmao
anyone wanna play esc
>>155264347
this game has been p2w since forever
the problem is all the people who deny it
>>155264101
if you're implying a currency tab is necessary for gameplay, i'd like to see a logical argument for this. have been playing for years with only 1 tab for currency and it's rarely even half full because any excess is quickly consumed by buying, rolling maps, strongboxes and crafting. there is never any reason to hoard thousands of chaos unless you want to go on a crafting spree.
>>155233395
Meme vortex can't get nerfed soon enough
>>155264628
cancer
>>155264628
it's not p2w because I've been playing it just fine for years and never felt the need to buy stash tabs
>>155240889
Hardcucks are truly the saddest autists here
>>155264281
level and ign?
>>155265037
my ign is oldmanyungdick
>>155265108
oh that's you
you're a supportcuck, there should be no shortage of high level players on your dick
>>155264814
>t. casual
yeah it's not p2w if you hardly play it lmoa
>>155265207
so playing a lot is p2w now? your posts are getting less and less logical with every passing minute
>>155264628
i said who gives a shiet my man
>>155265354
lets extrapolate for a minute
>p2w literally means pay-to-win
>win literally means to compete
so naturally the term would mean "pay to compete"
are you competing? no? then fuck off
I shilled this game before it was cool.
>>155265430
so the game is only p2w for those in the top 50 or whatever arbitrary line you define? okay good to know it's f2p for the thousands and thousands of other players, including you and me then.
poe can't be p2w because the game has no win condition
prove me wrong
>>155265430
>extrapolate
what
>>155265530
The win condition is to calm your autism to a bearable level.
>>155265607
catposter loves to misuse $5 words to try to appear smarter than he actually is
would you play my hottest new meme build not tested only theorycrafted
idea is to use kondo's pride and lacerate
poeurl.com/MCP
>>155265771
>would you play melee
no thanks
>>155263472
Usually the first or second day of the new season. Probably some random other sales as well.
>>155265695
>ex·trap·o·late
>verb
>extend the application of (a method or conclusion, especially one based on statistics) to an unknown situation by assuming that existing trends will continue or similar methods will be applicable.
FUCKING retard
>>155265801
>lacerate
>melee
wew
>>155265836
there was no extrapolation in that post
>>155265801
>>155265771
Save it for when melee gets the rework next (big) patch
>>155265836
yes, you did well extrapolating winning literally means competing
literal extrapolations such as those are truly the mark of a genius
>>155265771
>kondo's pride
>RT
Also not enough aspd to use Lacerate. It feels clunky as fuck unless you go like over 6-7 aps
>>155265946
>>155265986
stupid poopigeons can't even master the english language let alone master poe
>>155266048
nice extrapolation
>>155266026
you don't think i have enough bleed chance on the tree to take RT?
what nodes should i take for AS?
>logoutcore
people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...
>>155265808
I blew it. Time to play the waiting game then.
>>155266215
don't let him know he's not an elite hc player for buying izaro kills though
Am I seeing that right that physical skills can just scale up their damage by getting a weapon with more physical damage while spells have to get +% spell damage to scale their damage higher?
Is that evened out by spells always hitting or do they have a chance to miss too?
>>155248138
I still haven't found the sixths trial and I refuse to buy it just because ggg makes shitty systems.
FUCK THE LAB
>>155266620
>buying trials when people offer them for free
>>155266774
>mfw GGG wanted PoE to be '''''cut-throat''''
>>155266556
Attack gems scale with weapons as their base damage.
Spell gems scale with their own gem levels to provide their own base damage.
>>155266338
wow you got me, i bought uber izaro and minotaur/phoenix kills
>>155267261
what is even the point of playing the game if you don't beat new end game content by yourself
literally wasting your time
>no /poeg/ guild
no wonder all of you are so mean
>>155267416
there isn't one? lol shit general
>>155267416
but there is a poeg guild? >>155266215
>>155267509
There's like 3 of them you fucking pleb
>>155267576
>divide and conquer
Did anyone watch this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjh_2uIHirM
Did Chris say anything interesting?
>>155267576
>not in the general
>>>3 of them claim to be the /poeg/ guild
hhhmmmmmm.....
>>155267696
everyone did
watch it yourself and find out
jesus christ you lazy faggot
>>155267416
https://www.pathofexile.com/guild/profile/740
hardcucks should just logout of their life desu
>>155267947
fuck off reddit
When do I get my atlas? Im in Act 1 merciless now
>>155268052
suck my dick dude
>>155268063
After you kill a boss in a map, then you'll find Zana in the Eternal Lab
>>155268207
Thanks, so just keep on going? I wouldnt miss it?
>Hardcucks
>>155268063
after handing in a quest to the gemling queen in act three, you'll get access to the eternal laboratory. inside it is zana, who will open the atlas
>you will never be able to afford skyforth in a temp league
>you will never be able to afford shavs unless you get really lucky and buy it early
at this point in the game, there's literally no point in keeping uniques this rare anymore. there are too many ways to make all content a joke already.
>>155268776
somebody call the WAA-mbulance
LOL
>>155268776
who cares? you get absolutely nothing for earning items like that
if there's one thing i learned after winning my HC demi it's that working your ass off for things in this game is such a massive waste of time and leaves you feeling empty inside
>>155268851
maybe you should learn to build characters that are mechanically strong and intelligently crafted rather than relying on outgearing content with your 50 ex low-life caster, chump
>>155263462
>Everyone in the top 10 wins
um poetards?
>>155269007
i deliberately play non-meta(that means shitty) builds these days because this game is literally too easy
>Download game
>"Failed to initialise"
>>155270116
Call your ISP
do i shape tropical island or shore, poeg?
>>155270360___kys___
>>155270089
I try to play non-meta but I end up with mediocre shitty builds that are always lacking in something.
>>155270089
Even non-meta builds can be good. Just have to figure out which old league unique is broken as fuck like the wormblaster guy. I kinda want to do a Razor of the Seventh Sun + Eye of Innocence + Taming + Emberwake build but I'll never get the currency in a temp league to do it.
>>155270360
Shore by far. Getting two free spirits on the boss basically quadruples the loot.
>>155270480
>giving a shit about the loot and not the mob density/ease of layout
>>155270360
Why not both you dumbass
>>155270565
can't do both
you only get one shaper's orb per tier
>>155270614
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shaper%27s_Orb
Bro you dumb
>>155270653
not clicking your virus
>>155270693
You already got infected the moment you reply to me.
>>155270089
>non-meta means shit build
based retard
>>155270552
Tropical island and Shore are both great layouts though. Shore has better density but you get those shitty spitters/water elementals all the time. Tropical island feels more spread out, though you're running only small zigzags. I'd just pick the one with more loot in the end because of it.
>patches of frozen ground
>>155272292
>not usingkiara's
>>155270480
>Even non-meta builds can be good
Obviously. There's a lot of shit people just don't seem to play for no reason other than it's not the meta. Even stuff that might've been popular a league or two ago might get entirely forgotten even though no changes were made to the build.
>>155272515
Meta builds tend to feel "good" to play mechanically though. CI BV is just spam BV and some flasks then run into shit. Unnerfed Voltaxic LA was just oneshot everything and the next screen in one click, icewall for bosses (if you were pierce LA). It's hard to make a build be mechanically nice and also good. If they fit both criteria its probably going meta unless it's gated by retarded uniques.
>people running energy from within in the slot above witch
it's fucking 6% es per point you dumb stupid fucks
do you know what else is 6% es per point? the es wheel below witch that virtually everyone paths through and ignores most of
and that shit doesnt even cost a jewel socket!
you retards are literally doubling the price of energy from within, stop it
>>155273556
mana and 5% all res from cruel preparation is pretty good
>>155273556
>expecting normies to into maths
>>155273556
wait the unnatural calm wheel is also 6% per point, and every CI build ever made gets that, so it's even dumber than I thought
>>155273740
then just get those affixes on a jewel!!!
Question:
Let's say I have 200% increased ES from the tree, and I have a 100 ES shield and 200 ES chest. I would have
>(100 + 200) * (1 + 2) = 900 ES.
Then I take the "Energy Shield on Shield" passive for 40% increased ES from equipped shield.
Does this work like "more" and come out to:
>(100 * 1.4 + 200) * (1 + 2) = 1020
or does it work like "increased" and come out to:
>(200 * (1 + 2)) + (100 * (1 + 2 + .4)) = 940
>>155273938
its
>(100 + 200) * (1 + 2) = 900 ES.
Then,
>40% of 100 ES is 40, so you go 900+40 = 940
>>155273828
the whole point is that you can get both lol
why do you assume one excludes the other
>>155273556
>ffw you found an energy from within as your first character who was also an energy shield charcter
>>155258531
I'd invest that currency into a non gimped build
>>155274150
there's no reasonably leveled CI build that gets both the ENTIRE unnatural calm wheel and the ENTIRE foresight wheel and then still has points left to spend on 6 6% es nodes
that much ES is totally unnecessary anyway
Post comfy hideouts.
>>155274445
both, not all 3
more assumptions that all CI builds will path the same way
it's always interesting watching new players who like the game become disillusioned after a while and realize this game is shit and GGG are incompetent
I died at 68, how do I git gud? :(
is there anyscguild?
>>155275378
learn from your death and you're already a better player than you were yesterday
>>155215820
>music
>not listening to audiobooks or watching a movie on your second screen
>>155275439
added me ingame,Vowel
theres no guild
Switched from Static Strike to Vaal Lightning Strike on my Brain Rattler EQ build.
Kinda feel dumb for not having done it sooner, it shaves off a lot of time in boss fights.
>Hey, so, wanna know how I do my "builds"? The process is more or less like this: "Ooo, a skill called herbalism, and another one called druidic rite, I'm totally taking it for the ranger gal!" I'm still wearing Hyrri's Bite at level 72 because it dropped on me randomly when I was like 22 and it's an unique related to this awesome Karui feminist icon. I'm not changing it.
who are you quoting?
Someone give me a Voltaxic Rift bow for free please.
>The King's Blade
>The Carrion Crow
>Rain of Chaos
>>155278073
Here you go *gives Voltaxic Rift*
>>155278005
someone from lebbit
>>155278220
Thanks bro. Now watch me cancer my way through Merciless
>>155278220
*punches you in the throat*
that's for giving free shit to shitters
>>155278073
>mfw someone gave me one for free
someone just died at 99.9%
for those who ascend too quickly, the fall is inevitable
>>155278747
...I should have played safer
That's it, I'm going blade vortex.
>>155250906
I did it for a while but after 30 vendor trash prismatics I gave up
>>155253575
I find eq, lacerate gladi and sweep all pretty fun atm and you can do pretty much everything
>>155257049
Give it a try I think you might be pleasantly surprised
>>155260515
They're hardcucks
Is there a /vg/ guild?
>>155260996
>buys lab runs
>begs for boss kills
>only plays fotm builds
>rerolls every map and skips 2/3 map bosses
>logout macro on mouse thumb button
Truly the most skilled hardcore players only
>zana's mission
>cursed with temporal chains
>monsters drop tar on death
>it's a timed mission
thanks
>>155279947
Deadeye with ED, stupid or very stupid?
CI specter +srs + zombies with victario charity shield for frenzy/power charges and one unending hunger jewel
links are
http://poecraft.com/gemplanner#v11.2p1W0n.0P1T1y.1C2_1f2f.152_2f1S2O20.2I0M0a0e.=3161T2a.00.==.==
tree is
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAN-K6QJLrhsl2VttGX0Ya9vsikyz0B_v62wLIvSsmPfXzLxEBBCXTbmboRhqOlhYB3zleC9VxoPbBAeTJ--I-TfXz0mxna4V1yy_voqcvg0foS_K0w18V8ko-oLH-ehBhxFQNbmnK9P7qH1akWqsBkkTbI9Gpwjr7oMJMtFFR4hApqyQM_fBGmyGrh1PNAqbir5PFSeMsUeFOQvZXv6BqsSFYIRIXGvDbY8af8YBb-L3LKam6zeDPCjBxR2-akPAVAj02QsqmPqARnGwdzdmtAyLeuwYVmMc3DOHA-7quh0U-tIXL2TnVdaApA==
aura calc is
https://poe.mikelat.com/#XuVqSo/BWlVb.e
problem is I dont see a spot where I can put unending hunger in where theres 50 int on the radius of it
Do I have to redo my pathing?
it was the same wand
>>155279256
>playing cancer skills
might as well uninstall desu
>>155280332
I'd just give up 5% on The Energy Within conversion and grab the two int nodes near that witch jewel.
>>155280682
Fuck nevermind. Forgot Energy Within would then go in that socket.
>>155280291
Very. If you go Ranger, Pathfinder is much better for the poison 7th link and multiple flask perks making you tankier.
Scion Deadeye + Occultist is way better than Deadeye itself for ED.
>>155280682
>>155280757
dropped cruel prep and picked up the es from outer templar side
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAN-K6QJLrhsl2VttGX0Ya9vsikyz0B_v6xVQrJj318y8RAQQl025m6EYariTWAd85Xgv2t2ePJMn74j5N9fPSbGdrhXXLL--ipy-DR-hL8rTDXxXySj6gsf56EGHEQ87DRFQNbmnK9P7qH1akWqsBkkTbI9Gpwjr7oMJMtFFR4hApqyQM_fBGmyGrh1PNAqbir5PFSeMsUeFOQvZXv6BqsSFYIRIXGvDbY8af8YBb-L3LKam6zeDPCjBxR2-jHa3MWae2QsqmPqARnGwdzdmtAyLeuwYVmMc3DOHA-7quh0U-tIXL2TnVdaApA==
can my pathing be optimized still or is this as far at it will go?
i want to be hardcore but my isp won't let me
post you're progress
>>155280836
The pathing is fine, but I don't think you need that much minion life, especially once you get Commander of Darkness and gems have hit 17+.
poeurl.com/MDs
>>155224713
The most cringeworthy cuck in PoE. I wish Chris bitch slapped him harder in that "interview".
>>155281287
nice bought t16 bosses kills, what % of your atlas was actually completed by yourself?
>>155281287
more than 1/3 is afk time
i'm really struggling to stay interested
>>155281340
>poeurl.com/MDs
6 extra points give me 2 jewels,probably better actually
>>155281428
literally everything except minotaur and phoenix
ivory temple boss was fucking epic
>>155281624
>atlas of worlds has new difficult end game boses
>lol i'll just buy the kills from etup
you rolled in the wrong league, retard
>>155281718
bruh i'm leet
>at a Luau on Hawaii with my wife to celebrate our first anniversary
>receive the traditional lei greeting from hula girls, take photos, etc
>grab a mai tai and head to our seats. Okay, grabbed a few mai tais, drank them pretty quickly, THEN headed to our seats.
>greeted by a man in traditional Hawaiian clothing (skirt, headdress, cape, wristbands, naked otherwise)
>Hawaiian man to me: "Aloha, friend."
>Me: "Tala Moana, warrior. I mean, umm, Aloha"
>Wife: "what the hell does that mean? is that some kind of racist joke?"
>>155281765
your build was copypasted
your gear was rmt'd
your ascendancy points were cheated
your atlas progression was bought
there is nothing hardcore about you, you're below the softcore players who can't make it to maps in my eyes
keep buying those boss kills from etup, you bitchboi
>>155281901
>your build was copypasted
yeah, literally copypasted from my two week race build which i won a demi with
>your gear was rmt'd
literally no, i'm poor
>your ascendancy points were cheated
literally everyone buys uber lab and my build isn't capable of doing it
>your atlas progression was bought
i literally bought two out of 125 boss kills
shitcrows are objectively inferior to ANY mancore player. this is not up for debate
>buying boss kills
You might as well not play the fucking game, what a faggot.
>>155282070
>ed
>not capable of doing uber lab
yeah nah
>>155282070
>literally everyone buys uber lab and my build isn't capable of doing it
this literally makes your build literally shit
>i literally bought two out of 125 boss kills
yeah because the guardians and the shapers are literally 1:1 equivalent with t1 bosses so buying their kills is literally fine
you're garbage and should play softcore since you like bypassing difficulty so much
>>155260515
Can you run two auras without putting points into the passive to reduce the mana reserve cost?
>>155282487
clarity is a flat mana reservation, not a %
>>155282539
ack, cheers
>>155282276
not worth the risk
i'd rather pay for a rush than reroll because i hate this game
>>155282315
the way i see it i only need 12 more maps to get the challenge and i wont need to push higher than t13s to do it
all i care about is getting 36 challenges so i can fuck off and play something else until the next league
Im level 52 doibg around 4.8k dmg with my dual struke build. Im using leap slam, herald of ash and hatred. Any tips to elevate my gameplay?
>>155282653
>all i care about is getting 36 challenges
precisely why you should play softcore
run a 150% life 500% damage build and zerg all bosses whenever you level up, this will get you to 36 challenges in a week
you play hardcore on easy mode buying all the boss kills that you deem too hard, which unironically makes you the least hardcore player in this thread
>>155282769
i routinely level into the top50 and i'm always one of the first to complete 36 challenges and yet here you are calling me shit and saying i should be playing shitcore
hilarious and perplexing
>>155282841
why do you even play this game
if it's recognition you desire, you won't find any if you freely admit you buy lab runs and boss kills from etup like you're his little bitch
"Diablo 2 HD" website registered by Blizzard. 45 day countdown.
http://diablo2hd.com/
Holy shit, PoE on suicide watch LOL
>>155282915
getting bored of this conversation now
there is literally nothing wrong with buying uber lab
there's also literally nothing wrong with buying t16 kills
>>155282070
>Muh shit build can't handle hard content and everyone buys boss kills (I'm sure that's true on logoutcore )
Literally uninstall you dumb frog poster
MY DAUGHTER
>>155283093
i'm getting bored of a softcore player pretending he's hardcore when he puts 10c into the trade window so that his master etup can complete a challenge for him
can you hurry with your challenges and fuck off back to your warframe general already?
>>155283092
Poe is much better right now than d2 was. No amount of nostalgia can justify potion chugging and endless baal runs
>>155283093
>>155283178
Please have sex
>>155283229
poe's flask system is an amazing and game-defining feature
and then they ruined it with surgeon's mod
>>155283178
i've been a procore player since the first day they added HC league
% based damage on traps is some serious bullshit
Is Cyclone CoC Knife-spray still a thing? I remember it from a while ago but never got around to trying it.
Also, whats a fun, non-summoner, intel/ES build?
>>155283951
just hit your quicksilver lol
>>155284028
just take more life nodes lol
oh wait doesnt matter xD
>playing life builds
>>155284257
YES I FUCKIND DIED TO SAW TRAPS ON NORMAL LAB
WHY WOULD I BE FUNPOSTING ABOUT TRAPS IF I DIDNT
but for real this is retarded.
I had 2400hp, ( lvl 43 ), and entered a room with just too many sawblades and those traps that hit you from the sides, I even got stunned several times which I'll admit I really dont understand why.
now tell me why is it fair ( for any Lab ) that someone with 500hp will take the same damage than someone with 5000
or the fact that some movement skills are infinitely better at dodging every trap than others, making them trivial
>>155284531
also I wish they improved the precision of your characters movement, it feels floaty and not precise at all ever since CB, and I'm not talking about latency here, just the fact that precisely moving your character is tough, compared to any other game of the genre, or something like dota2
so now that the first build in ages that I was excited to play and going to make it work at high level ( lightning strike inquisitor ) is ded with my 20% LS, what should I play
no meme vortex of any kind pls
>>155284531
>now tell me why is it fair ( for any Lab ) that someone with 500hp will take the same damage than someone with 5000
a mechanic that puts everyone on the same level, regardless of their total hp or dps seems pretty much the definition of fairness to m
>>155284832
isn't the point of video games is to watch your character grow? why even bother with that if after investing time you still are treated like a low level character
Why are people shitting over bow builds ?
>>155284832
hahaha oh wow
are you serious ?
maybe papers for Arstotzka interest you my friend ?
i want to make a build with obliteration
i dont want to play a wander
what do i do that isnt spinny green shit or do i just kill myself
>>155284913
lab traps aren't a content you're supposed to cheese through overleveling
>>155284913
higher level characters have an undeniable advantage over undergeared low levels in the lab
most likely higher attack speed
most likely higher ms
most likely higher life regen (or faster es regen start)
possibly higher block or dodge (works for darts and ground spikes)
immunity to bleed/poison
but really, movement speed is everything, this is how pathfinders complete the lab in 4 minutes, they don't carefully avoid every trap, just blitz through it
damage over time can't hurt you if your time spent in it is less than a quarter second
>>155285020
maybe papers for standard interest you my friend?
: ^ )
>>155285041
poison bladefall
>>155285020
papers please was a fantastic game tho
>>155285145
>this is how pathfinders complete the lab in 4 minutes
what
>>155285365
movement speed is a hell of a drug
slayer / berseker Cyclone ?
going RT, chilling
>>155285185
yeah i suppose, guess itll have to be the gulping jewess
>>155285170
you know your 'logic' is flawed tho
>>155285292
absolutely, I pirated it ages ago when it was still a hidden gem and in beta version, I bought it recently on steam and finally got to play the final version.
how good is the BV inquisitor memes? I'm feeling like some fotm with a twist build
>>155286260
Considering most supports for bv are elemental (hatred, hoa, added fire), it works great. Throw in a phys to light like I did and you're set.
The only bad part about my build is that it has zero to no mitigation besides leeching from warlord mark and mind over matter. Currently sitting at 2.3k es, 6k health and 1.1k unreserved mana, but I still get nearly one shot several times.
Tbh it feels the whole end game is tailored towards CI Vaal Pact builds.
>>155286596
how is reflect for you?
>>155286135
no it's not
traps dealing % of life as damage allow:
a) designing the gauntlets and finetuning trap damage so that you only die to them if you're a trash player (for example, you) or disconnect in the middle of them, in which case you would die anyway
b) possibility to complete the lab with any build and any character regardless of build choices to avoid gating character progression (as was ggg's intention)
>>155284953
because the majority of bow builds are not viable for endgame, and the ones that somewhat are still can't hold a candle to even a melee character, let alone a BV pathfinder in regard to clearspeed, survivability, or cost of gearing.
I dumped about 6ex into my volt la ranger, the bitch still had massive trouble farming merc lab, let alone uber, sure the trash clear is alright, but thats it, the minute a mob even sneezes on you, you fall the fuck over. not to mention mobility, blink arrow is slow as fuck compared to leapslam or whirling blades.
meanwhile I spent 1ex gearing up a warchief eq juggernaut, and I'm cruising through shit like it wasn't even a thing, with a 5 and 4 link mind you.
>>155286965
those only apply if the trap areas are designed around zero baseline mobility
as soon as some sort of mobility besides just walking at base ms is functionally necessary, you can't complete the lab with any build any more
>>155287076
>warchief eq juggernaut
Please tell me what this is while pretending that im a complete PoE retard.
>>155287184
warchief totem, earthquake skill gem, juggernaut ascendancy
>>155287134
but you don't need anything else besides a quicksilver
movement gems just trivialize traps
>>155286751
If it is one mob, it's okay. If it is a map with elemental or physical reflect mods, I can only make it work with Vaal Pact.
almost died to excavation boss
lantern thrower guy rekt my shit
my heart can't take this
yo for real can izaro just get in his fucking hole when I kill him in the trials? I don't need to be chased around for 3 minutes because he popped as soon as he was active, trying cruel lab at 49 is hard enough as is
do guardian passives apply to summons?
>>155287297
Thanks, looks interesting. Should I roll that, or go BV Pathfinder?
>switch to predictive
>no more stuttering, constant lag spikes while literally standing still in hideout and overall lot smoother game
uhhhhh
/poeg/ redpill me on what's dangerous stuff to look out for mapping? i'm 6,8k ehc ci flameblas totem and i haven't played sc so everything is fresh to me
>>155290418
reflect
>>155290418
only 6.8?
>>155290960
i'm just level 72. highest level character i got so far in hc. i kept killing others so mapping is entirely new to me and this is the best i got so far
is this game more fun with co-op?
would someone like to play with me? im lvl 17 in the stranglethorn area
>>155291395
This game is way more fun if you play it co-op, but will be really frustrating if either one of you plays a lag inducing build (coc discharge, etc).
>run 15 t9 maps
>0 t10 map drops
this is gonna take long
>>155292181
>Finally find a t10
>It drops a t8
>200 hours played
>find my first exalt
>buy a carcass jack for it
>6 link it with 15 fuses
did I already beat this game? is there any reason to play on?
>>155292381
carcass is the shitter's uniform this league
are you a shitter anon?
>0 totem notes
>ancestral protector in 3link with phys to lightning + faster attacks
>deals22k dmg
how can anyone defend this ? even the attack speed buff is completely nuts, i get +10k free damage from this thing.
>>155292568
>PtL
>ancestral protector
>not warchief
it's shit
>>155291305
watch out for volatiles (just dont be near them) and shit that spawns in your ass like dropbears and devoirers. pop granites+basalt when porcupines packs die
>>155292530
guess that makes me a shitter, yes
>>155292623
I didn't bother to recolour my boots for better gems because i only need the totem buff.
The damage is still absurdly high, with totem nodes and a 6l that shit would be 10x better than my reave build.
>766
how exactly does intuitve leap work?
if you grab a node in the radius does that mean you can branch off from there or is it strictly nodes in the radius
Last Map: >>155191612
>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
essence challenges: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715825
>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
>>155294570
good job