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First for big guys in suits of armor

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>>155158208
Big guys?

Third for all weapon classes are perfectly balanced fo PvE.

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r8

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>>155158068

Reposting

http://www.mediafire.com/download/v56rqtgpp9qy2k8/hunter+boots.zip

Is the FC going to become a FFA?

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Any other Bloodshades here?

>>155158292
How so?
A few choice movesets and weapons dfominate over everything else by being blatantly more efficient, higher DPS, and lower risk all while requiring a smaller investment.

About the only thing that can compete with just a vanilla refined straightsword in PvE efficiency is some rouge bleed build turbogimmick

>>155158379
I proposed it, everyone agree?

>>155158384
No, I'm not 12

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>>155158384
>does the Quiet Resolve too
I've got nothing against roleplaying but this is getting a bit edgy.

>>155158384
If the name wasn't so edgy, would you join the thing ?

ok this just happened 5minutes ago


>First invasion since i heard about this dumb weeb peeve covenant
>invade bloodshade _____
>way of the blue hiding whilst running away once i find him.
>chuggin
>Faithful invades also Bloodshade____
>faithful teams with host as they are both weebshades
>2shot faithful with BKG
>host climbs water reserve ladder to get away from me
>throw 5 black firebombs at him as he climbs
>falls and died
> Spam clap

i thought they were invaders not ganking invaders and hiding

>>155158497
>>155158596
>not getting that it's ironically edgy

I think you're more 12 than you realize.

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http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/weapon-reskins

Are the DS2 weapon reskins ever going to be available again? If so, how do we find out when?

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>>155158497
>organizing for PvP makes you a 12 year old
>>155158575
>>155158596
It's tongue-in-cheek edge. Yes, it's for gank destroying and forcing people into team battles.

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>>155158384
Wow, peeve is SO creative

>>155158596
Why would I ever join some streamfag's """clan"""? Might as well suck his dick and swallow his cum at that point.

>>155158680
>>155158719
A perfect imitation is no different from the real thing. And it's still ganking, it's just the invaders doing it instead.

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Great Homing Soul Crystal ICBM when?

>>155159007
>tfw we never got Aldia's Great Heavy Homing Forbidden Sunmass

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>>155158596
I'm doing it, who gives a fuck if some cunts can't get past the edge.
I check the profiles of people I'm invading (a few reasons: most recently, it's to gauge whether or not their play time means they'll fall for the bridge in catacombs), and they are, uniformly, gigantic faggots.
>asccii doge
>retarded quote they came up with themselves
>"don't h8 me cuz ur not as gud"
That kind of shit.

More often than not, they're using some gimmick build they found online, and when they're not, it's a Fallen Knight Dark Sword user (FUCKING. STILL).
I hate them with the fiery intensity of a million suns, and anything I can do to ruin their attempt to turn the game into a small-scale MMO is good with me.

>>155158950
You kow those invaders that get ganked so badly they become gankers themselves? That's what's happening, only that they being red and blue somehow makes them not feel bad about it.
I don't like it, but I guess it at least keeps the community alive

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To be honest I think the idea of Bloodshades might be the best individual thing that's happened to the game since launch. I thought even back when Knight Kirk was autistically flailing against those who would dare go and try hurt the Fair Lady that player made covenants could be a pretty cool idea if enough people got behind the idea to try and make a difference in-game. So I hope this fad lasts because it'd be ways more intriguing to watch more meta covenants pop up.

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>>155158780
Better than anything you could come up with. What successful player-ran covenants have you made?
>>155158950
>>155159162
We wait until it's even, then go fight, generally. If an extra invades I frequently see people black crystal or sit out. If we end up ganking a host or two, tough shit, it's Irithyll. That would happen with or without us.

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So when do we make a gank covenant
and with what tactics

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Want to transfer some items between characters
PS4
help

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>>155158384
Yes, rest in piss brother.

>>155158596
I've been using a bleed-based gankspank invader for about 3 months now. I didn't need some edgy faggot to tell me how to have fun and I;m sure as hell not going to bother with juvenile "clan tag" shit just for the fuck of it.

Two more FFAs

>>155159269
>implying you even need to gank those shitstains
Just make some SL140 and laugh at them.

>>155158680
Pretending to be retarded is still being retarded

>>155159254
How new are you? What do you think /dsg/ community events were. This isn't a new concept. We have been doing shit like this since DaS1 launched.

>>155158618
my exact experience invading these faggots. one guy kept resummoning his passworded bloodshade buddy.

at 60, 80 and 125. twitch memers that don't understand that they should fight ganks.

>>155159254
It would be more interesting than the absolute nothing that is DaS3 online.

>base dark defense scales with faith
>base bleed resist scales with endurance
>armor with high bleed resist also has high slash defense
>best AoEs, and they're holy to boot

Clerics as anti-bloodshade is looking better and better.

>>155159473
Go back to your circlejerk, mr. "Desecrated_Flame".

""""People"""" who spend hours on twitch every day should be hanged in the streets.

>>155159473

I'm well aware of our community events, lucigger as should be obvious by the fact that I mentioned a tripfag who hasn't been here for years.

I'm talking about DS3 since the novelty of the Madman covenant has worn off already and there's no gravelording to do in DaS3.

>>155159627
Filter it if you can't ignore it, dumbass.

>>155159627
What now?

>>155159473
>implying an event is the same thing as a dedicated player covenant
>>155159548
>>155158618
They're supposed to kill Aldrich to prevent this from happening. Can't help it if a few faggots don't do what they're supposed to.

i really hate entirety of soulbrandt but this shit can really kick some life into highlevel invasions

>>155159808
its autistic but it could be fun seeing faction wars covenants

>>155159794
Did you forget about "Defenders of the Fluffy Tail"?

>>155159305
help

>>155159929
That has nothing to do with /dsg/. Not that you'd know, since you don't even belong here.

did we settle on pale shade for our meme covenant?

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Thank you all for coming, high wall FC is over.
I'll pretend I get the alluring skulls.

>>155159627

My vote's on clerics as well

>>155159808
It's not a bad idea, even if the fact that it takes the form of some edgy e-celeb club is reprehensible.

We ought to capitalize on this once the losers have had a chance to finish building their characters and do a bloodshade hunting event, just like the good ol' days of DaS1. Come up with some appropriate fashion theme and have a happy huntin' in the soul level nosebleed's

Thanks to dried fingers and their extremely specific SL range, it'll be pretty easy to find them.

I still vote for something themed after BB's Executioners.

>>155160002
Executioners, str/fth builds for dark and fire defense. High endurance for bleed resist. It's the perfect anti-edge.

>>155160024
NEW FC WHERE?

>>155160087
>>155160109
As a Bloodshade, this sounds like it would be amazing

>>155160087
I agree, Hodrick's helmet sadly can't go with a lot of sets, but we can do a lot of themed stuff such as coupling the executioner theme with his holy knight title and use warmths

>>155159996
It started here before they stole it and made it super autistic.

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>>155160024

Thanks for the FC, sorry for making people mad with the whip

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>ywn meet the dancer
>ywn cure her hollowing with a purging stone
>ywn see her beautiful face as it once was
>ywn enjoy her godly body and face

Just sacrifice me to the first flame senpais

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>>155160087
>I still vote for something themed after BB's Executioners.
Anything even remotely resembling Executioner/Church Hunter gear in DS3 is severely underpowered unfortunately.

Though i completely agree that there should be a mass ganking event. I'm even ready to make SL150+ build for it.

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>>155160225
>warmth is pure fth requirements
IT HAS BEEN ORDAINED

>>155160229
It was the SS, not the whip, but hey, I don't care what you use so long as others are okay with fighting it

>>155160229
THERE ARE PEOPLE
IN THIS THREAD
RIGHT NOW
THAT DEFEND DARK SOULS 3 INVASION SYSTEM AND THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T BACKSTAB HOSTS OUT OF THE FOG GATE

>>155160251
Dancer wouldn't like you anyways, she's addicted to Sullyvan's cum

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>respec faith and try out miracles at the fc for the first time

well, that was a mistake

All of the spells are slow, easily interrupted, and have a stupidly long and obvious windup time that screams "roll, i'm going to cast a lightning spear now"

>>155160270
>way of blue host with darkmoon executioner white summons
>summons that die just get re-summoned via wob without the host needing to find a sign
>everyone wears white rings and has the same name so invaders can't tell who's who
loving every second of this

>>155160449
I almost cried when I traded into your point-blank lightning spear and only took like 100 damage
Was that 60fth Yorshka's Chime? Why the fuck is this okay?

>>155160109
how high SL can we go? they're 142?

>>155160387
That's the way it should be. Letting the host get to the fog gate should be a failure state for invaders. It should not be a free BS.

The only thing wrong with invasions in DaS3 is that the dried fingers doesn't disable seeds.

Any worth-installing DS2 mods? pastebin doesn't mention any

>>155160537
i think 150-160 would be perfect

Okay, so far we have

>hodrick's cone helmet (can expand to only golden/church armors)
>faith + warmth
>maybe bonewheel shield?

What about weapons?
Lucerne for church pick
MLGS of course
Smough's for kirk? I'm drawing a blank here
We don't have blue moon for ludwig's, so not sure what else.

>>155160537
I thought they were 140? I don't remember what the DaS3 summon formula is after it got changed in a patch, but 10 levels over is always a safe bet.

>>155160598
SL150 would work for sure, someone needs to check if SL160 would, though.

>>155159464
>>155158950
Oh I guess all satire and parody comedy throughout human history was actually being serious because some autists on the internet said so.

The onion? Serious newsite, no jokes there. Steven Colbert? He really was a hardcore crazy conservative, he was never just satirizing them. The scary movie series? Turns out they really were meant to be scary but they just failed so horribly it accidentally wound up comedy instead.

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>>155160595
Scholar of the First Meme

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>>155160447
DELET. SHE IS PURE AND DIVINE

>>155158068
>/dsg/ is so shit and unoriginal they have to steal another games group to make they're "Internet Clan"

Lmao

>>155160757
n-no thanks

>i'm literaly the only non ledit cancer in this thread
hthese kids actually encouraging ganking and going to stupid high levels like 150 that theyll still probably lose to shit like Broken Swords
jesus christ fuck off back to >>>/r/eddit and take this Shades of Autism shit back there.

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>>155160745

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This is the best executioner set I could throw together. The body piece gets the robes with some gold trimming that goes with the helmet.

No clue on what to use for weapons, I guess anything blunt would be fine though, with a bone wheel in the offhand.

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>>155160449
if you are using miracles for damage
you're using them wrong pal

they are more like utility tools

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Don't reply to tripfags: you're just as retarded as they are for feeding their delusions that they have something worthwhile to say.

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What's a good weapon for a pyromancy witch without too much investment in str/dex and infusable or built in faith and or int scaling?

What's a good offhand weapon or spells for a wolf knight sword wretched knight theme?

What's a good weapon for a faith build pure maiden who's secretly an invader slut?

>>155160654
I really don't think we should go too specific about restrictions, that's just silly.

If we're going to have uniform equipment, it'll either have to be a full set, like some of our DaS1 dressup events, or else just keep it simply at 1 piece of identifying equipment (like a helmet or something).

The rest of the guidelines should be broad:
Str/Fth
SL140-164 (roughly, someone can double-check the maximum upward range)
Carry plenty of red moss with you
Pop a finger

I suppose we can have uniform names as well, but we'd actually have to find one we all agree on first,

>>155160654
Morne's GH, works with the stat spread too.
Lothric Knight Greatsword is pretty good as Lightning or buffed
Winged Knight Halberd is delicious when 3-4 people are spinning at you
Saint Bident is surprisingly effective when Heavy and buffed
Dragonslayer Greataxe, maybe

Lothric's dragon-slaying knights and angel knights have good equipment for the setup, interestingly enough.

>>155161009
im down for this
only a piece, either chestpiece or mask
if we are going to name ourselves executioners then i believe the exec. mask would fit the best

>>155158681
Anybody?

>>155160769
Yeah, pure fuckmeat for Sully

>>155161107
>Saint Bident is surprisingly effective when Heavy and buffed
Lets not start lying now. Saint's Bident is garbage with any infusion and there are much better spears for buffing.

Lothric Greatsword has the issue of being a quality weapon. The AR will be bad on a strength build and even with a buff you're just gimping yourself over a quality one.

>>155160919
fuck me that does looks pretty good

im down to use this
>>155160919

>>155160919
The oracle set looks more like Choir equipment, really.

>>155161134
But it looks nothing like the golden traffic cone. Hodrick's hat at least looks the part.

fuck executioners

i'm making a god damn cleric gang and you can join if you're not a pussy

>>155161252
Ay yo, on a 40dex/60 faith darkmoon buff build, an uninfused saint's bident has roughly the same damage and moveset as a winged spear, but with greater range.

And I think on a pure 60 faith build, uninfused it'll beat out other spears raw.

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>>155161009
Guess so, just the Sunset helmet would be cool, or that combo up there.
Also, pic related, I think the best SL would be 170, you could even get some vit for cool armors and maybe even spare a ring slot for bloodring.

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I'm just a hopeless romantic.

>Dark Souls 3
>shortest game
>bonfires out the ass
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>massive amounts of on-disc cut content that will be sold as DLC
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>rehashed animations
>invasions sucks
>Heavy armor sucks
>armor sets don't even fit properly
>brown and grey
>shit AI
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>Magic itself does reduced damage for PvP
>awful scaling balance
>FP is the most awful casting management system introduced yet (worse than DeS mana, which had better regen options and more efficient)
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one locked behind the final boss
>bland NG+
>awful covenants
>no blue eye orb
>blue sentinels and darkmoons the exact same
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for special weapons resulting in less weapon variety than BB
>very little moveset variation
>existence of Carthus Rouge
>WA are mostly shit or copypasted powerstance moves
>no tech
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frame
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>no dragon covenant
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB

>b-but the DLC will save it!
>b-but other games have faults!
lmfao

>>155161395
executioners its supposed to be including faith, no?

i like the idea mostly because we can hang around and use replenishement miracles to heal us without popping an estus

>>155160919
this set looks pretty as well, im going to use it wether we do the thing or not

>>155161452
Or, I could use a plow for better range and damage

>>155160449
>easily interrupted
senior faithguy here, what catalyst are you using

>>155160769
i want to sniff her butt

>>155160895
>the fall of 4chan
>not tripfags like you

>>155160872
>implying it's a having covenant and not a team PvP covenant
>muh it's mainstream so it's automatically gay meme
It's like you want to be autistic.

>>155161395
Executioners are BB's paladins, you dork.
They hunt heretical weeabos that wield magical blood powers by grinding them to paste with holy wagon wheels and other comically oversized bludgeoning instruments blessed by their faith and zeal in smashing things.

>>155161909
yeah well i want to wear real cleric looking armor and not the gay hobo shit posted above

>>155160654
Hollowslayer as it fits thematically as a weapon designed to grind down mindless hollows.

>>155161640
I don't really care for DaS3, but this obnoxious shit isn't helping.
Go be a cunt on /v/, if you absolutely must.

>>155161898
*ganking

>>155161898
>implying it's a having covenant and not a team PvP covenant
whats the difference? Is english even your first language?
>mainstream so its automatically gay
no it's automatically gay becausw it's gay as shit, fucking retarded underage shits and autistic manchildren like you genuinely like being edgy, so youre using this as an excuse
If i wanted to be autistic i'd act like you and join in on this retarded group shit

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>lol, Bloodshade
>edgy garbage, amirite
>let's make our own, and base them off the edgiest covenant in the edgiest game
Not an ounce of self-awareness between the lot of you.

>>155162174
>2v2 and 3v3 fights are ganks
>parody is just as bad as the real thing
>being in groups is bad
You really do like being autistic don't you?

>>155162067
>gay hobo shit
You have school tomorrow, isn't it bedtime?

>>155162279
Nice edgy post, kid.

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>>155162279
>executioners being edgy
There is nothing edgy about purging the vileblood filth.

>>155162329
>parodying is just as bad as the real thing
yes when you're not doing a parody at all, learn the meaning of the word kid, i guess parody is the new "ironic" and "literally" where dipshits like you fucking ruin the true meaning of the words
you really like projecting dont you faggot?

>>155162279
>Bloodborne is edgy meme

Lmao. Aside from there being lots of blood, it ain't that edgy. Also, The edgiest covenant would probably be the Vilebloods, not the Executioners

>>155162279
>executioner's
>edgier than the covenant giving us the best but edgiest action in vermin crush
>edgier than hoonting those who got addicted to blood while you might become one of them yourself
>edgier than vilebloods which speaks by itself

>>155162384
Be careful, you might cut yourself on it.
I'll try to make my posts more safe and round (wheel-like, if you will) in the future, if that suits your own brand of autism better.

>tfw dlc add viable crow and angel form and buff frosbite

>>155162506
edgy

>>155162279
>exeCUTEtioners
>possibly being edgier than the literal vampire covenant

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>>155162480
>not getting that the whole point of the covenant is to be ironically edgy and parody all the edgelords in this game
>Not understanding irony

>>155162431
>>155162492
>>155162494
>covenant poster-boy is a lunatic who gets excited by smushing an infirmed "impure" woman into guts gore
Rayciss edgelords, that's what you lads are.

Just realised. When the capthca asks you to solve a second series of traffic signs, intentionally click on anything but the signs: that's google trying to get you to train its algorithm

>kill some completely awful shitter with a carthus sword that has no idea what he's doing
>immediately resummons me
This has happened with 3 separate people now.
Why is every carthusshitter fucking terrible at this game and butthurt about it?

Messing around a bit with SL 170, you can actually get a lot of huge AR benefits from it.
This is just a generic thing I tried, without focusing on any of the weapons in particular. But you could do a lot of fun stuff focusing on an specific weapon.

>redditor PCucks want to act like pathetic edgy faggots aka their true selves online
>make an excuse and create a fake edgy group online, say theyre pretending to be edgy aka pretending to be retarded
>people point out how fucking cringey, stupid, and edgy this all is
>PCuck redditors gets super pissed off and startspewing the word edgy to everyone and anyone
look at the last few posts, take a shot for everytime you see the word edgy
oh wait most of these kids arent old enough to drink or browse here

>>155162669
>now changing the word to irony
>tumblr/facebook meme image
My entire post still proves vaid if you just swap parody and irony, thanks for proving my point kid

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>>155162537
No, wheel.

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>>155162758
Forgot pic

>>155162793
>PCucks basing fake edgy group off of sonypony exclusive
>which they probably own or play
?????

>>155162907
Why was Gavlan such a cool dude while all his friends were cunts?

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>>155162793
>Buzzwords

>>155162793
>neet manchild gets needlessly upset about video games

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Is it Executioner or Executioners?

>>155162958
>PCucks's giant playerbase consisting of like 12 autists like you and led by a washed up pvp faggot have to pretend to be a actual covenant from a game PCucks will NEVER EVER play to try and bring life on the dead pc online
thats fucking pathetic af

Why is sage ring utter shit?

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>>155162751
>this is what vilebloods think

Really though, their idea is both related to blood, blled and what have you, and the executioners are the closest to a covenant dedicated against that.

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Here's the real irony: any chance this player-run "covenant" had of being discussed even semi-seriously here died the second one of you faggots decided it wasn't grown up enough for you to be part of your high fantasy video game.

>>155163080
One is singular, the other is plural
I don't understand the question.

>>155163082
Wew lad. Not even participating in that, just pointing out your logic.

>>155163082
reminder that the e-celeb in question plays on PS4.

>>155162898
Didn't you even see the filename? I got that from here. I also used both parody and irony in my last post. And it is parody/irony. Your claiming that it isn't doesn't change the fact that it is lmao. That entire post of yours had a lot of claims but no arguments.

Reminder that caressing tears removes bleed build-up from allies too

>>155163136
Well, I'm just poking the /dsg/ bear at this point. You can argue pretty much any point long and hard, if you're inclined to.

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>tfw ds3's covenants are so shit we have to make our own

>>155158268
Relatively

>>155163271
True.
I don't even plan on playing it anyway since I never go further than 100
I just like reading the ideas

Why the fuck do I keep losing connection to the game today?

>>155162918
Are you all absolutely sure that SL140 invades up to SL170? Because I've fought people at SL170 before, and you'd think peeve's circlejerk would notice all the quality/fth builds with triplebuffs and tears running around.

>>155163397
PCuck exclusive feature

>>155163268
Bleed builds pretty fast, anon.
Good luck getting the cast off when three people are bearing down on you with weapons that need to be fast and close-range to work effectively.

>>155163483
Slightly higher actually >>155161462
They aren't the smartest bunch.

What should my next character be, /dsg/?
An edgy pure dex assassin, or a mad Evangelist cosplayer?

>>155163332
sad but true

>>155163583
Well, that's just bizarre. Alright then, quality/faith it is.

>>155163610
Evangelist, obviously.

>>155163483
But how many people go to 170?
Is that some obscure Reddit meta?
A lot of people think 120 is a bit high, but go there for the increased traffic.

>>155163610
Mad evangelist
>no book talisman to cast miracles or beat people's head with
>can never truly make a complete father mozgus
Sad really

>>155163641
I have a character I'm trying to level up to at least 40 in everything for the DLC, and he's still running into people at SL198. And believe me, those fights are the most cancerous thing you'll ever see. I fought a full havel swinging hollowslayer around with ToD and Bountiful Sunlight active.

Just finished the game and gonna start making builds.

Any breakpoints, SL ranges, or other quirks I should know about before jumping into the character building?

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WHY. WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUTMAKING A PLAYER RUN GANK COVENANT.
AND NOT WORKING ON GIANTDAD3.0.

So these Executioners are going to be a gank covenant right?

>>155163953
A gank event, but yes.

>>155163815
60, 85, and 120 are meta ranges. Use the op for build sites.

>>155163905
First time in a while dsg made me cringe.

>>155163953
It's an anti-gank gank covenent

>>155164057
Gotta make our own fun with this boring shit game

>>155163641
They don't, it'll be a gank vs anti-ganker warzone with the occasional 150fag.
They are going 140 specifically because they want to avoid invading 125, which greatly lowers the amount of players they find.

>>155163629
It's not bizzare, the upwards range is 20 +10% SL, 10% = 14, so 140 + 34.

>>155163815
Use a site to try them out, such as:
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3
Vig has various softcaps, first at 27, but the real major one is after 44.
End scales better and better until 40, after which its returns are abysmal.
Same goes for att, but it gets worse past 35.
Str and dex both have 40 and 60 caps.
Vit never hardcaps, but it's considered the worst stat.
Fth and int scale very good until 40/40 for pyros 45/45 for hexers and you should bring one of them to 60 for clerics/sorcerers.
Finally, luck hardcaps very hard after 40

>>155164110
No, that's what the Bloodshades are. This is just a gank covenant

>>155163905
Gundyr's set is basically Giantdad.

>>155164037
>>155164165
Will do, thanks.

>>155163795
Horrifying.
Why bother?
The game's beatable at any level, and going higher only puts you into worse and worse PvP brackets, as you've seen.
I'm guessing you want a character that can do everything immediately for experimenting, then decide how you might create/ respec lower sl characters?

>>155163953
As if there's any need for that. It just legitimises Peeve's more than anything else, and doesn't make a ton of sense thematically: The Executioners hunted Vilebloods, right? They didn't hang out in one place, hoping one would be unlucky enough to walk by.

>Invade
>Only ever get gank squads
>Get invaded
>2 phantoms immediatley, nowhere near a bonfire where I can get to signs
This system is fucked on both ends. I guess this is why WoB exists. Maybe couldve beat them both if I wasnt using a fucking caestus this early

>>155164110
>>155164219
So we're all going to use wheels right?

>>155164225
Well yeah, I've already made an attempt at it using gundyrs and exile legs.

>>155163815
Don't stop at 27 vigor, go to 40 instead. 50 if you want more hp than you'll ever need.

Attunement can stop at 30, you don't get much for it past that.

Endurance stops at 40

Vitality doesn't softcap, but it's only useful until you hit the midroll breakpoint (69.9% equip load)

All weapon scaling stats hit their first major softcap at 40. They'll gain very minimal returns up to 60, but raising a second weapon stat to 40 is usually better.

Sorcery and miracles scale exellently up to 60 int or fth. Pyromancy goes to 40int/40fth. Dark spells only differ from sorcery/miracles when cast with specific catalysts that explicitly state they're good with dark, and in that case they go to 45int/45fth. The Luck and Faith staffs are an exception, and they go to 45 of their respective scaling stat but still need intelligence for their spell requirements.

>>155163905
Because A) giantdad cannot work mechanically in DaS3, B) giantdad was only ever a reference to an already dead meme, and C) a giantdad recreation in DaS3 would, ironically, not be true to the idea behind giantdad. That'd be a quality straight sword R1 spammer.

>>155164057
Same, but it's the GiantDad 3.0 bit that gets me, not people trying to have some kind of fun with White Bread Souls 3.

DED GAEM, DED GENERAL, DED PLAYERS

>>155161462
Where do i find this calculator?

>>155163953
I guess a anti~antigank covenant
But for me is more like just pushing this agenda for faction wars, something to extract dun from this game

I'm not going to evade something fun just because a youtuber made it, that's even more edgy and childish than the bloodshade name

>>155164276
I'm definitely going to have one equipped

>>155163332
>one covenant does nothing except facilitate two other covenants
>those two covenants are identical, and also don't even work. Their covenant leaders are nobody and a random nobody in a tyower that exists to infodump about gwyndolin
>one covenant is a turf war covenant that doesn't work
>its leader is a dead wolf that doesn't talk or do anything
>one covenant is also a turf war that actually does work
>its covenant leader is a fat dead dude that doesn't do anything
>another covenant literally does nothing
>but it's covenant leader fulfills a mildly convenient function not related to the actual covenant, because the actual covenant does nothing
>the sunbros are back
>but you don't actually access the statue until an endgame area
>oh and there's a second invasion covenant that offers slightly different invasion mechanics
>but most of their unique functions are half-baked and meaningless and the rest are basically irrelevant
>also their covenant leader is a pile of random trash in a ditch
>every covenant reward is either a useless weapon with low base damage and low scaling that requires twinkling titanite to upgrade, a useless spell (lol all spells are useless) or a mildly useful ring.

Let's face it, DaS3 has the worst covenants in the series bar none. It's not even a competition. They might have had a chance were it not for the technical issues but when 1 covenant is unfinished and half of them don't work properly. It's no surprise people are making their own covenants when even BB, the game that didn't even have a real covenant system, did the covenant concept better than DaS3.

>>155164354
I was talking about GiantDad too.

>>155164412
Here you go

https://mpql.net/tools/dark-souls-3/

>>155163953
I thought it was an event.
Like a 1-time thing, we set a date and all hang around hunting these 140 dorks for a while, then move on.

>>155163905
he's dead until poise returns

>>155164243
>'m guessing you want a character that can do everything immediately for experimenting, then decide how you might create/ respec lower sl characters?

Yes.

>The Executioners hunted Vilebloods, right? They didn't hang out in one place, hoping one would be unlucky enough to walk by.

Actually, this is exactly how the Executioner rune worked in multiplayer. If an executioner summoned or was summoned by a vileblood, they'd spawn as a PvP opponent that uses up a summon slot. It was possible to summon two hostile executioners hogging both your summon slots and still be invaded by a third. Or, it could go the other way around with an executioner and his buddy spawncamping unsuspecting vilebloods who weren't prepared for PvP.

FC WHEN

>>155164420
Okay I get it I want to kill edgy furtive edgy weeaboos but how can we make the most out of bonewheel shield?

>>155164609
You don't
It's really, really not viable as a weapon. Don't even try.

what's the best healslut spells?

>>155164538
Havel made it in.
Just base it around Iron Flesh. Make it a walking parody of a build that might have been, if From hadn't forced a DaS game through Bloodborne's engine so as to finally be done with Bamco's shit.

>>155164695
The running attack can be useful?

>>155164609
we dont

>>155164484
>Blue sentidorks
I am inclined to agree, i guess there's a fucking long queue to 'assist' a host (waited 2 hrs to assist)

>Aldrich Faithful
Very active anon (every 2-3 minutes)

>Farron watchdog
Somewhat active (every 15-20 minutes)

>>155164528
Thanks

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So there's new dsg covenant now right ?
can someone fill me in

>>155164751
Yeah if you like gradually whittling people down doing 200 damage at a time until they realize how easy it is to avoid and never get hit by it again.

In healing fights you're just wasting your time.

>>155164556
Interesting, never been too familiar with BB's online mechanics. 3/ 4 games doing this kind of stuff, and From completely drops the ball when they should have been in a position to provide the best online experience in the series. Guess we'll see what the DLC does.

>>155164875
Someone made a "community covenant" that levels up to SL140 and invades

We're talking about doing a themed event where we hunt them by going up to ~sl170 and popping dried fingers. The theme itself is under discussion.

>>155164484
Its because their is no attachment or meaning for a covenant, they are basically Pick a color and go kill people/enemies.

While its convenient to switch covenants on-the-spot, they are basically glorifed ring slots now.

When you became a dragon in DS1, you traveled to the depths of lordran to join them for twinking, fun, or furfaggotry. But it was an achievement, and you became attached to them.

When you became a Champion in DS2, you worked your way through hell just to maximize your punching powers.

In DS3, its ERROR - CONNECTION LOST, as you continue to farm silver knights just to get different colored buff which you won't ever use unless you're a cleric.

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>>155164603
Soon. Probably not.

>>155164919
No anon I meant useful in certain situations, not as a main weapon. But yeah.

>>155165005
>ERROR - CONNECTION LOST
Only on PC brah
Never had a problem on quadruple.

>>155164484
>BB doing covenants better
Bloodborne oath runes broke online connections frequently.
Bloodborne's covenant rewards were: two gestures which are extremely similar to each other, another two gestures which are again extremely similar, and a bucket helm.
That's it.
Executioners gives you nothing for becoming the enemy of most of the players of the game.
Hunter of Hunters again gives you nothing for becoming the enemy of some players.
The League gives you a useless consumable gesture item for co-oping. You get 1 per co-op session in a game where oneshots are frequent and boss damage is off the charts.
Only Vileblood gives you something good, 1 extra insight per invasion kill. At the point you can easily get this you don't need insight anymore since you're gonna be a maxed out perfect bloodgem fucker.

>>155164875
faith for dark defense
strength for fire defense
endurance for bleed resist
SL170 anti-edge build to bully on peeve's edgelord community for a day or so

>>155164856
>i guess there's a fucking long queue to 'assist' a host
It's not even that. BAMCO confirmed the covenant is broken. They don't work correctly due to some problem on their end. Every single one of the 11 patches this game has received has been working to fix this, and while the situation has improved, it's still not actually fixed.

Apparently patches breaks if you buy the tower key very early. I wanted to heal my hollowing quickly.

>>155165151
My god, learn reading comprehension

>>155165259
You just have to go up the elevator again and he'll trigger normally.
You can't trigger the tower encounter until you either encounter him in the cathedral, fail the cathedral encounter or kill the deacons.

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is this going to scare peeve?

>>155165432
Even though Dark Souls 3 has bad covenant rewards it still has them.

>>155165151
No one is saying BB's covenants are good. They're saying BB's covenants are better than DaS3's. Vileblood and League alone were better than anything DaS3 had just by sheer flavor alone. and Embraced/Milkweed at least did something significant even if it wasn't a multiplayer effect.

>>155165595
It's makin' me laugh.

Perhaps you should give up on the cosplay cosplay, anon.

>>155165001
>>155165163
pc only ?

>>155165595
You guys are literaly two or three doing this

Obscuring ring is (was?) best covenant reward, although the nerf may have changed that.
Wolf ring is indisputedly the worst of the worst.

>>155165716
The 140 guys are primarily PS4, though they're spreading to PC already, too.

We're just brainstorming ideas right now because it'll take some time to see whether or not their whole covenant thing catches on and it's actually worth making an event.

If the event does happen, it'll likely be both PS4 and PC

>>155165615
A shit sandwich is not better than no sandwich, and BB's covenants are better than DaS3's covenants because they don't try to substitute worldbuilding with shiny, useless trinkets that no one would ever use.

>>155165716
>pc only ?
What on earth would make you think that? peeve plays on ps4, but I'm sure he has viewers on every console.

>>155165754
Obscuring ring is definitely still the best covenant reward. The bloodshades use it to great effect.

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>>155165707
it's exactly the same

>>155165750
I'm not even on PS4 to be invaded by peeve anyway. just threw some things together because I was excited.

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FC for the next ~2 hours.

Daemon Bridge, PC, dsg.

>>155165970
im using it
i liked it a lot

>>155165750
nah if there's an event I'll join I don't care what it is

I'm sure theres more like me

>>155164875
Reddit aka PeePee made a edgy ganking cov for no reason on PC called Bloodshades.
Redditors here are making another edgy ganking cov in response, both covs are stupid high level (140+)
This is ultra cancer and you should avoid this

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>tfw all my fashion has to revolve around the Royal Soldier Helm

why is it the best piece of armor in the series, bros?

>>155164484
DaS 1
>one covenant is gating a very significant gameplay feature
>3 covenants serve the same exact purpose, only one of them is useless and the other two gate miracle use behind them
>a PvE covenant that doesn't do much besides helping a sidequest
>a good area covenant
>the best covenant in the game is actually the most boring for its members and never works while also requiring NG+
>another invading covenant is actually faster to max out by grinding mobs than invading, making for another needless reference 3 made to 1
>dragonfags duels

DaS 2
>two covenants holding your orbs hostage behind an arena
>good PvE covenant
>the best covenant from ever made which died also instantaneously after release because the playerbase is a bunch of cancerous duelfags
>okay area defenders
>very good idea behind area defenders, incredibly poor execution
>sunbros, mostly unchanged
>dragonfags, also mostly unchanged
>babysit me covenant

BB
>two covenants that always fight each other, one which has rewards for it, while the other hasn't
>covenant that becomes certain player's enemy, very good lore wise, but rare to work
>sunbros, pretty much

Comparing them, you can find many flaws in every covenant system, DaS had the best lore implementation, which is something 2 and 3 lack a lot.
Here's what should've been made with them:
WSS, RSS and REO are available to everyone, no matter what, once you complete whatever you need to get them.
Covenants only focus on adding unusual interactions to PvP
Also add some that automatically become allies/enemies when using the three items mentioned above.
Finally, give them all a motivation to remain inside. covenants in 1 were a big deal because of it, give them exclusive rewards and similar. In 2 that fucking cat solves everything for you and in 3 they're fucking items.

Either way, you've got to be blind if you think any system wasn't more needlessly convoluted without adding any interesting depth than DeS's simple one.

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so whats the consesus, /dsg/. Was Gwyn a good guy, or a bad guy?

>>155166143
Try sunken king crown and white priest's set.

>>155166143
Because it's a sallet that goes with everything

>>155166323
it's hard to find things it goes well with for me, the colors never match up right.

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>>155166123
>Reddit aka PeePee
Regardless of how you feel about all of this covenant shit, that's an incredibly retarded set of words you just typed, and I'd hope you have the good decency to feel appropriately bad.

>>155166261
He was doing what he thought was best for him and his.

>>155166449
>getting mad over fucking pixels of text on the internet
are you even old enough to browse here faggot? kill yourself

>>155158436
Not true at all though. Even Great Hammers have insane PvE viability because they stagger everything so damn hard.

>>155160595
Mods cannot be used for SotFS, and the base game is not worth buying or playing since SotFS is the superior version.

>>155165892
>>155165841
nice
thanks

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>>155166053
Annalise here I cum

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>>155166594
Not mad, just surprised that someone who seems to be so concerned with the proper way an adult should act is such a reactionary little shit who makes insults that a child would find embarrassing.

>>155166721
Please give me a screenshot of you wheeling Emma or the Handmaid

Why do people play like such bitches in this game?

>>155166603
>stagger
99% of enemies in the game have 0 poise.
Of those with poise, only silver knights are staggered in 1 hit from an ultra, and they're staggered by 1 hit of a regular greatsword, or of the L1 of twin weapons.

Black Knights and Darkwraiths are staggered more quickly by small weapons because while they do less poise damage per hit, they do more poise damage per second thanks to the fact that they can attack 2-3 times in the time it takes an ultra to complete a single attack.

Most large enemies that can be knocked down or put into a visceral state do so based on damage, not poise damage, so large weapons that do less DPS are actually disadvantaged over small, fast, high-DPS weapons like straightswords.

So, is the Corvian Scythe on a bleed build the only actual viable reaper?

That's sad desu

>>155166221
>WSS, RSS and REO are available to everyone, no matter what, once you complete whatever you need to get them
>Covenants only focus on adding unusual interactions to PvP
This was the entire idea behind DaS3's covenants. They boiled them down to something so basic it's just a pallet swap and a different agenda in what ultimately amounts to the same old multiplayer. DaS1's covenants at least all had completely different multiplayer ideas behind them (yes, even PG and chaos), some of which didn't even necessarily require being in someone's world. PG's whole shtick was to cast big miracles that spawns little white circles in other worlds that boosts their miracles, which spawns yet more white circles which boosts their miracles further. WoG spam buffs WoG spam which buffs WoG spam, basically. WoW's thing was to benefit from this even without having the stats for the big miracles.

>Also add some that automatically become allies/enemies when using the three items mentioned above
This actually wasn't all that popular in Bloodborne, mainly because it dicked over everyone involved and made co-op too much of a hassle. The end result was that people only ever went Vileblood to invade and dropped out for co-op, which killed the Executioners. And people still never figured out what triggered HoH, even the futurepress guide was wrong about it.

>Finally, give them all a motivation to remain inside. covenants in 1 were a big deal because of it, give them exclusive rewards and similar. In 2 that fucking cat solves everything for you and in 3 they're fucking items.

This, really. All of this. Covenants as rings just ruins it, and all covenants just being slightly different versions of invading/summoning gets boring fast.

>>155166809
Is your name iMax? Because that's some strong as fuck projecting you got going on there kid.
Stay mad.

>>155166868
I spent all day yesterday invading, and it was almost entirely ganks who wouldn't move from the bonfire despite muled gear and a number advantage.
Today, two faggots seeded me, then spent five minutes trying to hit me with arrows before they finally bum-rushed me with Dark Swords. The entire invasion lasted 25 minutes because they were too afraid to cross the path near Anri in the Catacombs.
Dark Souls 3 has the worst community of any Souls game, period.

>>155166945
I use it dark infused on my pyro. 100~ chip damage through medium shields.
Not like anything will come close to DaS's great scythe, but it's a thing

>>155166945
the bleed isn't what makes it viable anon

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>>155166887
Reminder we could've had this.

>>155166945
>on a bleed build
Not even. The bleed on it is shit because it's a passive spacing weapon with no way to apply pressure and is slow. Even with rouge you'll never bleed something unless they're sandbagging against you.

It's just a regular old 40/40 quality, or 40/40/30 hollow weapon.

And yes, it's the only viable reaper because it's the only one that actually gets decent AR. Even at 60 dex with it's S-scalling in dexterity, the pontiff scythe is like 30 AR less than a quality corvian.

>>155167157
That'd be even worse.

And the retard who found that "switched-off value" for poise didn't bother doing the literally one search to see what turned it on. Turns out that value is activated during hyperarmor.

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>mfw just used up both humanity and green blossom stores in anor londo
>mfw haven't even gotten past the two archers outside

WHERE THE FIGHT CLUB @

>>155166945
Hollow Corvian Scythe is pretty bad unless you're 40/40/40, scythes are best one-handed
And for all those points in luck you only get 30 AR over Refined

The bleed is unlikely to activate too, it's not a CCS or warden twinblade

>>155167095
I wish they would remove some of the bonfires in this game. Off the top of my head, the Road of Sacrafices bonfire and the Crucifixion Woods bonfire should go. The first Cathedral of the Deep bonfire could go. Irithyll's first bonfire should go, that shits just dumb. Either get rid of Dragon Armour's bonfire or get rid of the Grand Archives bonfire.
Quite frankly, boss bonfires were a mistake. Just put a bonfire after, but not where the boss was. Shit like the Dragon Armour bonfire and Irithyll could be avoided if they didnt do that dumb shit. They only did it for the Lords in 1, they shouldnt have done it for every boss in 3.

>Soul of Cinder has that cool pose where he holds his sword out to his side
>Player doesn't

>>155167480
Run up to the archer on the right with a shield suitable for parrying (or a parrying dagger, if you need the help) and he'll pull out his sword. The rest is easy. Or you can just stagger him/ trade hits until he's dead.

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>>155166857
This one looks pretty nice, but not any blood yet.

>>155167568
Player can't have cool stuff, we have Soul Stream tho

>>155167502
people who dont know what theyre talking about should talk, this includes you kiddo

>>155167767
Soul of Cinder's Soul Stream is infinitely better than the player's. Mainly because it's actually viable against players.

Most enemy spells are just better versions of player spells, actually.

>>155167843
shouldnt*

>>155166945
What, so the Great Scythe is worse than the Corvian Scythe?

>>155167843
You fucked up that post good, kid.

Explain how I'm wrong.

>>155167361
It'd be great if you provided links. I looked anyways.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4vnan9/how_poise_works/

>>155167041
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think anyone spamming WoG could generate the circlets and benefit from them. And since Gwynevere healing miracles were rather unpopular, this was just benefited from regular players buffing others and so on, no invovement from the covenants (I'm not sure about this).
My complaint about adding unusual things is that there's too many that don't. Darkmoons are just invading with a massive level advantage, the sunbros are only coopers with exclusive spells(only in 1) and that help you furthr grind their covenant. Area covenants are just invaders who get a friend they can't hurt, while they can't make allies in other areas.

I should've specified that. One of my grips from 3's PvP is that sunbros aren't allied to other invaders when invading. I personally think that, if we had 3 sets of invaders, one that always helps, another that just needs the host kill by himself and a third that is mound makers, we'd have them better divided depending on what you wish to do as an invader.

For the record, the only covenants I think have been good, of course, only assuming how they work in an ideal world, since we know how fast the community is to kill something fun, are: Gravelords, Pilgrims of the dark, Rats, CoC and moundmakers, 3 of which can never be enjoyed again.
For everything else, if they were replaced just by an NPC I could do a sidequest for an get their drops, we would lose absolutely nothing important.

>>155167859
Sad thing yes

>>155167693
Easier said than done
Playing a faith build, so farming items back is easier with the homeward miracle

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>>155166857
One more and then I'm done.

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>>155166857
What's gracious about the ashes now.

>>155162996
Because he was drunk.

Are the Flamberge and the Carthus Greatsword worth using?

>>155167956
Yes.
The two are identical in almost every way except the greatscythe has less AR and less bleed and less reach.

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yo

>>155168398
>flamberge
it's ok, basically an upgrade to bastard sword
if you ever actually find it it's worth a try
pure slash damage makes it ridiculously strong in PvE sometimes
>carthus greatsword
not really, it's just a worse version of every other curved greatsword, the weapon art has terrible tracking

>>155167968
Shut the fuck up kid, you're a stupid faggot that doesnt know anything
corv scythe has more bleed than css cus of self bleed also its not only 40 dmg dipshit shut the fuck up retard faggot bet youre a pcuck too

Is there an FC going right now?

>>155160586
>That's the way it should be. Letting the host get to the fog gate should be a failure state for invaders.
but there's usually zero way to stop that from happening. As-is you can already sprint through the whole game far more easily than any prior souls game. Ideally I'd like getting to the fog gate to be a potential goal for a host, but as it stands it's like playing soccer with two players. If you roll past a phantom once, that's it, you're home free.

>>155168063
Uprgrade yourself a Raw Bandit Knife, chief.

>>155168910
>but there's usually zero way to stop that from happening.

You could get good.

>>155168767
the flamberge is the strongest strength greatsword that uses default stance as its art

>>155169005
>You could get good.
You first lucifer. You run around with 20 endurance, there's absolutely no way you're chasing down anyone who's in an area they've already explored once. Stop posting lies on the internet.

>>155168291
The price you'll be paying for the goods they provide would probably be worth the discomfort to her.

Is Demon's Fist as effective as Caestus would be in PvP? Could the dragon stone roar be a good substitute for Perseverance?

>>155169105
>>155168910

Don't bother trying to argue with him, he's objectively wrong on this but tries to pretend it's a matter of player ability and not poor game design.

>>155169054
>strength greatsword
But the flamberge is a quality weapon.
It's actually pretty good, gets about 520AR at 40/40 refined. It's basically Wolnir's with an actually usable WA

>>155167968
He's implying that you forgot about the hollow bonus to luck, rather than assuming that you already factored it in like any non-retarded person.

>>155168013
Anyone spamming WoG/GH/princess miracles would make circlets and benefit from them, yes. But PG, WoW, and WoS prioritized connections between players of those covenants which made circlets appear more often between them. WoW was a functionally useless covenant outside sharing one use of PG, and existed purely so that Knight and Cleric could start out with it without giving them too much of an advantage.

Darkmoons are a mechanically terrible concept but a flavorfully tasty one. Invaders are part of the balancing act that keeps Souls' spicy risk vs reward formula even with co-op, and anything that punishes them for invading takes away from that. DaS2 got very close to fixing them by encouraging invaders to pick off blue summons while invading, but then fucked it up by not giving the reds anything for fighting blues that invade them back. Among other colossal fuckups, like that massive level advantage and restricted invasions.

>the sunbros are only coopers with exclusive spells(only in 1) and that help you furthr grind their covenant
Note: sunbros didn't have any covenant rewards past that 1 exclusive spell, which was available at rank +1, and only in NG+.

Technically speaking, DaS3 sunbros encourage teamwork among invaders; if a sunbro invader is alive when the host dies, all invaders get a sunlight medal. Most people don't know that though, and the ones that do don't have much use for them.
I'm not trying to make a point with any of this, mind you. I'm just nitpicking for its own sake.

A fusion of CoC, PoD, and Gravelords would be the sexiest thing ever. Joining the covenant replaces your summon slots with extra invader slots, 'gravelords' your world, and ranks you based on how many invaders you kill.

>>155169142
Demon's fist is great.

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>>155168778
>kid
>faggot
>dipshit
>retard faggot
>pcuck
Holy fuck, ease up man.

>>155169190
yeah oops I must've been thinking about something else

>>155169105
>>155169105
>You run around with 20 endurance, there's absolutely no way you're chasing down anyone who's in an area they've already explored once.

That's because I am not an idiot. Rather than chasing them, I head them off at the pass. I have been through the area more than once too. I know it better, I don't have to worry about enemies, and I know where they are going.

>>155169170
Typical scrub logic:
>I can't be bad; CoD told me so. It must be the game that is bad.

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I've been using a longsword on my pyromancer, but I really want to switch to something a little flashier. What's a flashy weapon with low str/dex requirement that's good for a pyromancer?

>>155168910
You fucking idiot. There were several hundred posts there without tripfaggotry, you know.

>>155165998
Still hosting, jojofriend? I don't see any signs here. /dsg/ needs to stop going to bed so early

>>155169372
Witch's Locks?

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>>155160449
lightning is not about damage anon
is about using it like an utility tool

>>155169350

Have you played Dark Souls 3? Please only talk about games you've played before.

>>155169201
>A fusion of CoC, PoD, and Gravelords would be the sexiest thing ever. Joining the covenant replaces your summon slots with extra invader slots, 'gravelords' your world, and ranks you based on how many invaders you kill

Are you trying to make me sad anon

>>155169350
>I head them off at the pass.
You can spawn farther away from the fog than the host. Last I checked you invaded with a spiked mace; you're literally "please trade with me; stop running away": the phantom.

>>155169489
Has he beaten dark souls 3 yet?

>>155169556
I think on some level I'm kind of hoping someone will make a fan game using the network beta test and do everything that should've been done with it

>>155169489
Yes. Are you telling me you can't see all the fuck ups he made in that WebM?

>>155169557
That's not what happened in the webm that prompted this discussion, and if you spawn in and they are already at the fog then they get away. It's not a big deal.

Does Seek Guidance work when you're a phantom? Would I see signs?

>>155169819
Feel free to continue mistaking the host's faults for your own talent.

>>155169843
I don't even think Seek Guidance works in general. As far as I can tell, there's no additional dev messages revealed by it.

>>155170000
Capitalizing on your opponents mistakes is part of PvP talent.

>>155169478
Oh shit, that looks cool. Is it good at all?

>>155170000
quads speak truth

>these bloodshade faggots striimer faggots

>all hollow because bleed build

>3 shot with hollowslayer

As god fucking commanded it

>>155170203
Hollowslayer's bonus doesn't apply to players

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>>155169372

>>155169819

As the person who made that webm, I can tell you I followed your advice exactly and ran ahead to intercept them; they dodged one (1) attack of mine when our paths crossed and there was nothing I could do from that point; with that distance advantage created from dodging one (1) attack, they were able to sprint away from that point without any concern. Note, I did not have 40 endurance, but it's questionable if they did (They were a 60 faith build), and that with the 30 odd endurance I did have, combined with a green blossom, chloranthy +2, and grass crest shield, I was able to catch up to them and attempt a 2nd attack, which they successfully rolled through.

Whether or not I won was reliant on the enemy failing to successfully roll through every attack I attempted; ANY successful dodge would result in them being able to escape.

>>155170141
About as good as a whip can be. It's mainly just a sidearm to support spellcasting. The WA is fast, strong and spammable and can be useful to force people off of you to give you space to cast

>>155170356
Nah, watching the webm, I can see where you fucked up multiple times, and all you did was chase them.

>>155170494

Sorry, the part where I intercepted them was before I started recording.

Does Tears of Denial give you invulnerability for a bit?

>>155169201
Ah, I see. I think it never mattered much since the mechanics of the circlets were weird. I have one around the parish that has been around since I made a character and never vanished, so I never really understood how they worked. Also, you being able to join WoW before you even reach an area where you can summon/be invaded kinda made it pointless for knight and cleric to be members once you understood how it worked.

I have no ideas how darkmoons could ever be implemented nicely. When I first tried them in 1 I was disgusted with how mindlessly easy their invasions were, putting the stupidity of how strong a twink is to shame. Ironically, in 3 they are, on paper, the best they have been, since they have a reason to fight and reds a reason to not BC. I have no idea how invading sinners could work without just making blues regular invaders with a different shade, but they should work on it.

You still needed to join to get the miracles, I guess. And the only interesting ranged faith choice being gated by it was silly. I like it being more known as a dragonslaying miracle now.
Also, no one really cares about the medal, at least no one who invades, sunbros are easy to max as always.

>A fusion of CoC, PoD, and Gravelords would be the sexiest thing ever. Joining the covenant replaces your summon slots with extra invader slots, 'gravelords' your world, and ranks you based on how many invaders you kill.
I like it, but as said above, how many would use it? It breaks my heart every time I think back at 2's release when the chasms died on all my characters but they all could use the arena of blood reliably. No matter what From does, the community wouldn't go with it, at least not enough to make this new covenant worth making

>>155170585
No.

>>155170585
No
Were you trying to thorn roll someone who'd popped tears? If they had regeneration they can outheal the damage.

>>155170585
One chance to survive at 1hp when you should have died.

>>155170552
Maybe, but you have plenty of oppurtunity to pull a turn around just in the space of that webm and you fucked it up.

>>155168673
what is this meme

>>155170552
Yeah but you should have taken the shortcut on the straight corridor you were running down, that would have let you head them off, duh.

>>155170880
some sad pathetic autistic PCuck spams it every thread becuase spamming the same pic and "yo le waddup xD" is for some reason epic and funny.
Report and ignore

>>155171048
i find it cute

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is this the best way to do a mage?
no real spells, just MLGS (and the bow because I like bows?)

a better question is, does the MLGS do shit damage? It's got like 400 magic and 140 phys, which doesn't seem like very much at all to me

>>155171157
Remove some end and put it on int.

>>155171157
Unless you're just in it for the MLGS, bellowing dragoncrest is a must. You're also gonna have shit cast speed unless you compensate for that low dex with a sage ring.

>>155169372
I used demons fists on my pyromancer, they're pretty great if you can deal with the small range. Great stun ability and can lock a player up with they're special

>>155171293
>sage ring.
Isn't that ring shit? I tried it out with miracles and there's barely a difference. It's like what? 0.1 seconds of a difference?

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>>155168673
Is this avatar fagging?