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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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YO WADDUP!!!
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Are you gonna be joining the Bloodshades, /dsg/ ?
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I love bullying Kriemhild!

also link the previous thread you fucking faggot >>155158068
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From >>155197012

>>155196716
Dark is blatantly weaker than fire, because the buff spell doesn't gain dual scaling (scales only with faith even when using caitha's/sunless, and is a weaker version of other buffs even then), the spells either have weak damage output or bad mechanics, and they don't have a reliable nuke spell like all of the other schools do. Faith is the worst offensive caster at any level, but they get the best buffs and DMB does ignore the lightning defense End would give. Sorcerers have the highest offensive damage output, but their buffs are the worst and their spells have too much windup to hit anyone with half a brain. The main advantage of Int investment is that most people don't have the flat magic reduction that comes with Int investment and the Dusk Crown also boosts magic damage on weapons like Moonlight Greatsword for a penalty that no non-int or fth build would be able to exploit.

>>155196846
Pyro with crystal chime doesn't get maximum damage on soulmasses and spears, but they get very close while also being able to cast miracles. On top of, you know, having the much better pyromancy school.
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Newbie here
How does poise work in DaS3?
I got invaded in Irithyll dungeon and got R1 spammed to death.
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>>155197048
>Dark is blatantly weaker than fire
I'm talking about infused weapons and not spells. Vestiges will always rape people, even if it's 610 instead of 660 per cast it doesn't matter. Dark/crystal infused weapons suffer the least of all weapon types from higher level damage reductions.
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>>155196635
Yeah, in dark souls 2

Favor and life are the first two rings you should for-sure have unless you need specialty rings like sage or bellowing due to not being on a quality build.

After that you should have SPR, a +5 ring, Leo, and/or Hornet, the latter of which can be hardswapped if you're that sort of person.

Chloranthy +2 gives you an additional 9 stamina per second. Your base regen is like 45 points per second. The ~4 levels of endurance added by favor are far more important.
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>>155196783
A guy who farmed some equipment at lower levels started seeing signs from other people who farmed some equipment at lower levels.
The only issue at release was the NG divide, so you couldn't summon NG+ players, but that was fixed.
Why are you making shit up?
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>>155197160
it makes hyperarmor (unstaggerable frames that some weapons' attacks have) slightly better
that's it
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>>155197201
>started seeing signs from other people who farmed some equipment at lower levels
which never happened
t. someone who really loved to do coop when ds2 was just released
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>>155197160
>poise
some weapons have hyperarmor frames. Poise is required for them to have any effect. Allegedly having more poise gives you a few extra frames, but it's a negligible effect. Nothing can hit you more than twice in a row, the third straightsword swing can be parried.
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>>155197258
>playing on PC
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>>155197160
Complicated.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4vnan9/how_poise_works/

>>155197192
Alright then. But 610 per cast matters when fighting people with more than 1,300 hp embered. At 50vig RoF+2 LR+3, 660 per cast can kill them in 3 hits and 610 per cast doesn't.

Faith still has the best body buffs, and half of them can stack, too. You can have ToD, bountiful sunlight, and sacred oath all active at the same time, and one of those has a 45fth requirement.
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>>155197405
I'm pretty sure you can't stack ToD and SO. SO is also garbage and you'd be better off just eating grass if you actually care. the base replenishment is more worth it than bountiful sunlight.
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>>155197275
>Allegedly having more poise gives you a few extra frames
No, you don't get extra frames. Having more poise makes it harder to break you out of hyperarmor frames, see
>>155197405
>https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4vnan9/how_poise_works/

Poise damage is calculated even when hyperarmor isn't active, meaning someone can hit you three times before you attack and then when you start your hyperarmor they'll stagger you instantly on the first hit. This is why poise matters.
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>>155197485
Okay, that makes sense.
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>>155196837
i want to cuddle with fire keeper
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>>155197482
Sacred Oath stacks with ToD, it's Deep Protection that doesn't.

Are we still talking about super high level PvP? Because at SL150 and up, the +10% to all damage (including spell damage and split AR) and +10 to all absorption matters when you can softcap everything your weapon scales with while also having softcap Vig and heavy armor. At SL120 or below, not so much.
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Does obscuring ring work in pve?
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>>155197625
It adds less than 10% in PvP, any %attack or absorption bonus applied via buff gets cut in half, whereas penalties of the same nature become 50% larger. I'm also still pretty sure SO doesn't stack with tears unless you've got evidence to the contrary.
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>>155197683
no, didn't you ask this before?
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>>155197683
A little, but slumbering is more useful.
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>>155197718
>any %attack or absorption bonus applied via buff gets cut in half, whereas penalties of the same nature become 50% larger
Sorry, forgot about that when going through the numbers.

>I'm also still pretty sure SO doesn't stack with tears unless you've got evidence to the contrary
Give me a minute to crawl out of bed then, I'll get you a screenshot.
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>>155197683

No
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>>155197754
Yeah, forgot to check for any replies and went to bed. Sucks that it doesn't do anything.
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>>155197787
>Give me a minute to crawl out of bed then, I'll get you a screenshot.
Actually on second thought, I think it might. It would make sense since it's a team buff; you wouldn't want a yellow to cast SO next to a host with tears only for the host's tears to be overwritten.
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>Gundyr's Halberd WA isnt Stomp/Warcry into a R2 charge
>The Warcry could make your eyes glow red
From doesnt know how to have fun
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>>155197840
yeah, it's 8-7 backsteps of range while lock-on is 6.
hidden body doesn't do shit btw.
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>>155197405
>>155197275
>>155197216
This is more confusing even more and somehow makes sense as to why most invaders are using great swords.
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>>155197853
Tears, B sunlight, and SO active at the same time.

Deep Protection, Tears, and GMB are the ones that overwrite each other. Because we all know deep protection is just too good.
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>>155198085
tears is never overwritten by anything
you can hide the visual effect, but it continues to work
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>>155198257
I shouldn't have gotten back in bed
Deep Protection, MB/GMB, and any pyro buff will remove the ToD icon from your status bar and negates the effect on your character. If I wasn't too dumb for weebms I'd make one, but will you accept a series of images instead?
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>>155198085
The entire point behind Deep Protection is to be the newby placebo spell for people that feel like buffs actually do something and doesn't know enough about the series to realize how wrong that is.

It baits new players into flunking Irina's questline because "gives you everything" sounds tempting on paper
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>>155196974
The level 140~5 requirement is kinda keeping me away from it. cba to level a new character to that level. none of the characters I have are Warriors either, so I can't even change their name with CE.

Though, I love the idea of player made covenants, and all the covenant people are coming up with to fight Bloodshades, and others. This might actually make pvp and invasions in this game interesting.
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>>155198364
>>155198257
Fuck it, have a youtube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yexrO1QuvXc&feature=youtu.be

>>155198717
I was being sarcastic.
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>>155198913
What does being a warrior have to do with using CE to namechange?
I thought name changing softbunned you regardless
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Is NG+7 piss easy if you are a sorcerer? (Dark Souls 3)

I want to roll one but I need some healthy dose of difficulty, too.
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>>155198913
>one of the characters I have are Warriors either, so I can't even change their name with CE.
The name is optional anyway. All that matters is your commitment to the edge.
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>>155199004
>he wants difficulty
>he's playing sorceror in a Souls game
uhh
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>>155199004
the only way i can think of making ng+7 hard is by using unupgraded weapons....or use only miracles
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>>155199004
> Is NG+7 piss easy if you are a sorcerer? (Dark Souls 3)
Just don't waste mana flasks on regular enemies and just run past them. If you are at NG+7, you probably already have everything you need. Bosses shouldn't be that difficult, if you avoid getting hit and use fast cast spells such as great soul arrow.
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>>155198979
warriors are the best choice for 40/40/40. knights and mercs get overleved
if I had a warrior, I could respec at rosaria to that build
and changing name with ce doesn't get you banned
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>>155199162
miracles-only is one of the easiest pve runs possible
there's only what, two bosses with lighting resistance?
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>>155199162
>unupgraded weapons

That would ruin my invasions or sunbroing to others though since I'll be SL 120 with +0 and gl getting a match.
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>>155199235
Problem is, miracles have the lowest damage output of all spells on top of having weird-ass wonky hitboxes with sourspots all over the place. Pyro runs are super easy because GCFO/CBV are hellishly strong and anything that resists fire is also weak to dark.
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>>155199337
You can still keep your weapon memory at +10, while using a +0 weapon.
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>>155199353
>miracles have the lowest damage output of all spells
????
if we're talking about ng+7 run, miracle users have sunlight spears which FACEFUCK majority of mobs
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>>155199004
I did a Magic/ashen estus only on NG+6 and I had more trouble with Crystal sage, Wolnir, Gundyr and twins bros.
Good luck anon
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>>155199520
>Actually bothering with killing mobs
Lel.
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>>155199520
Crystal Soul Spear facefucks harder than Sunlight Spear and kills everything in a straight line, as do GCFO/CBV on top of having better area damage. Though, if you're using your big spells to kill little mobs, you won't have enough left for the boss.

Is Faith the only caster you've done? Because it's by far the worst, even dark is better than faith, and that's without the pyromancies.
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>>155199520
>Even fighting mobs past your first playthrough
Just run through. It's actually more fun.
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>Listening to Peeve getting salty about people criticizing his covenant
Fuck man, I think his covenant is cool but I'm bleeding harder than the hand moomins in Profaned Capital hit with a Carthus'd Bandit's Knife.
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>>155199661
>Crystal Soul Spear
is shit
if we're talking about pve sorcery, it's great heavy soul arrow or bust
and aside from sunlight spears, faith builds have dorhys gnawing with its insane bleed buildup
> if you're using your big spells to kill little mobs, you won't have enough left for the boss
if i'm doing a full miracle playthrough i will have 15 blue flasks and attuned healing miracle
with that much firepower i can clear the entire area from mobs and still have flasks for a boss
>Is Faith the only caster you've done
i did all caster builds and full miracle caster in ng+ is a literal easy mode
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>>155200060
Great heavy soul arrow takes a whole second longer to cast and does less damage per hit. It costs less FP per cast, but that extra second of delay and lower damage output makes a huge difference on when you can cast it against bosses and how long it takes to kill them. Dorhy's Gnawing is nice and all, but it takes 2-3 casts to bleed any boss that doesn't resist it and the non-bleed damage on a pure Faith build really is not worth the time and effort it takes to trigger the bleed. It's super useful on a 40/40 dark caster, I'll give you that.

>15 estus
Alright, alright. Faith has an advantage in survivability. I'm still killing things faster with my 60int, dusk crown, and candle dagger.
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>What if, a couple of people dropped their signs near a bonfire
>What if, the host teleported them to the FC location
>What if, we create new FC locations
Already asked this yesterday, just want more suggestions.

>Normal FC Locations
Irithyll: Water reserve
High Wall of Lothric: High wall
Untended Graves:
Road of Sacrifices: Demon Bridge

>FC Locations that benefits from CE teleporting
>Criteria: disperse Spawn Points, FC location is too far from the bonfire, other?
Grand archives: Birdcage, Bridge, after birdcage(jousting)
Irythill: Bridge
Demon ruins & Catacombs: b4 Abandoned Tomb
Consumed King's Garden: b4 boss, pic related
Archdragon Peak: Havel spot (are fps drops that bad?)
Cathedral of the Deep: jousting spot,
Lothric Castle: (are fps drops that bad?)
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Anyone want to make an anti-edge covenant to fuck with bloodshades? I was thinking some kind of faith/dex that stacked heals and abused blue phantoms to gank the idiots

Could call it SoulBound to turn the rp wank metre up to 11
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>>155200476
Read the past three threads you nimrod.
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>>155200476
>Anyone want to make an anti-edge covenant to fuck with bloodshades?
>I was thinking some kind of faith/dex that stacked heals and abused blue phantoms
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>>155200342
>Great heavy soul arrow takes a whole second longer to cast
they have absolutely identical casting time and animation with crystal soul spear
>does less damage per hit
given that it costs a fraction of FP to cast, that's not a problem
>non-bleed damage on a pure Faith
you don't use gnawing for non-bleed damage, it's a thing you use if something is resistant to lighting spears
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>>155200476
>wanting to make an anti edge character
>in dark souls
good luck, bud
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>>155200476
I'm pretty edgy but I also won't join some random youtuber's made up covenant
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>>155200624
They have identical animations, but the casting time is different. The faster casting speed combined with higher damage is what makes CSS more useful against bosses than GHSA. GHSA is more useful against mobs though, because of the lower FP cost.

Why would you use Dorhy's purely for the bleed buildup? Against a boss who doesn't resist bleed, you need to cast the spell 2-3 times for it to trigger. You'd get better damage output by just using GCFO instead, even without the Int investment. Because, seriously, pyromancy is the real easymode.
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>>155200661
Just make a faith build or something.

>>155200476
Sunbros?
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>want to play full str character
>she ends up as a sl4 run character

Fuck
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>>155200827
>but the casting time is different
just fucking attune them and cast one after another
>Why would you use Dorhy's purely for the bleed buildup
because it's the main gimmick of the miracle?
even a nameless king bleeds from just 2 casts
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>>155196837
Last episode:
>>155158068

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
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So after a lot of pvp with immolation tinder i'm adamant that fire on its tip adds sweetspot damage to the entire thing that is not reflected by its AR. Damage values differ immensely, if you hit someone outside of sweetspot it does a pretty realistic damage reflected by its AR. But if you hit someone with its tip, typical damage you get is higher than majority of glaives can dish out on quality builds outside of leo ring lucerne maybe.
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>>155200661
Well, if we're being serious here, you probably could make an anti-edge character. End investment for bleed resistance, faith for dark defense, strength for fire defense. Cast holy miracles to purge the darklords or whatever. Pretty typical paladin/crusader/whatever.

>>155201036
I just double-checked it. CSS with 12 dex and sage +2 has 1 second cast time, GHSA has 1.5 second cast time.
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>>155200994
I just dont have the motivation for a base lv run knowing that they'd be locked out of any form of online because of weapon memory
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>miracles do less damage than sorceries/pyros
>take longer to cast than sorceries/pyro
>use substantial amount more stamina/fp to cast

What the fuck miyazaki?
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>>155201297
>miracles have all the healing and buff spells
>pyros have one HoT that heals enemies and a pile of mediocre buffs
>sorcery has stealth buffs and one weapon buff that's identical to a miracle
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haven't played in ages or checked dsg in a while, does pvp still suck balls in ds3? should i even hope that it will ever be good?
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>>155201297
Miracles are the best school at max though, you dummy.

Pure faith is the best way to get to ng+7
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>>155201462
Depends on where you invade and what level, honestly. Most of the time you'll invade ganks, but in the right places that really doesn't matter.

>>155201515
Pyromancy is the best school at max, you dummy.
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Bloodshade is best cov, stay mad faggots
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>>155201462
>does pvp still suck balls in ds3?
Peeve's Bloodshades are saving PvP and are reclaiming Souls pvp for invasions.
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>>155201597
>>155201643

VILEBLOOD FILTH
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>found videos from dsg fight clubs 3 years back which you never got to experience

why even live
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>>155201261
>I just double-checked it
I just double-checked it at 18 dex + sage+2 and they are similar
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is their a good pvp build for mix magic and regular damage. sl110 trying to get to 120.
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>>155201783
No anon, there's a 15 frame difference between the two. That isn't similar, that's "this spell is fast enough to make a difference" levels of speed., especially when we're talking about projectiles.

Speaking of, projectile flight speed also makes a big difference in how much more useful CSS is than GHSA against bosses.
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>>155201671

Post please.
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>>155201912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf7X45B2SUc
>sens fortress
> katanas
>lagstabs
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>>155201643
what is bloodshade?
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>>155201885
https://youtu.be/-jynbZLV7c4
Skip to near end.
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>>155201745
how do you find invading places. all I find is fight club shit.
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AND HE PRAYS
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>>155201997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6SCYfYK4pE

Basically a player-run "covenant" that teams up on gankers.
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>>155202093
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>>155201954

What did I ever see in that PvP
just what
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>>155201890
And projectile size. And every other factor.

CSS costs more FP than GHSA because it's better than GHSA in every category. GHSA's only advantage over it is the lower FP cost, which only helps against the numerous mobs between a bonfire and a boss if you aren't just running past them.

>>155201997
>>155200541
>>155176508
>>155147432
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>>155202093
OH MY GOD DO I PRAISE
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>>155202205
It's literally what albino said. We just didn't have any other options.
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>>155202038
thanks a lot
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>>155201885
yes, it's called 40 str and 40 int
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>>155202251
Albino? Albinos are scary
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>>155202251
>>155202205

It's so janky-ass when you see old stuff after playing Bloodborne/Das3
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>>155202137
what the fuck is this? I didn't know we quantum leaped to fucking 2005 again with all this unironic edgyness
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All this bloodshade shit aside, can we try to do a Gravelord Event again now that Return to Lordran is happening in October?
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>>155202495
>unironic

It doesn't seem Peeve takes it that seriously.
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>>155202621
No one but /dsg/ is taking that seriously.
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What is your invasion music ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iQLNR9btr4
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>>155202848
https://soundcloud.com/gu_kun/evening-disco
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>>155202848
HAAAIIII YO!

https://youtu.be/A4S6dNvHBYI
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>>155202848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vppbdf-qtGU
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BLOODSHADES
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Nothing screams cancer like farron gank squads
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>>155202621
He gets enough defensive about people criticizing the edginess of the idea that makes me think he's genuine about it. Mind you, that doesn't mean that he's wrong about the edginess fitting into the game, but he seems to be getting really high off of the fact that he invented something pretty cool and it seems to be working out. Not to say that one should act humble about shit, but it looks like to me that he's completely serious about this.

It'd edgy and I think Peeve's getting really smug over it catching on but the idea is solid, fun and something that is revitalizing DS3 online. If this catches on and people start doing spin-off groups, it's going to be really fun.
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>>155203097
What's the matter anon, can't handle a bit of teamwork?
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>>155202563
>those level ranges
people need to be on ng+ to be gravelorded. without the gravelord phantoms, this is just reverse ganking
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>cutting off the tail of seath the scaleless gives you the only dragon weapon that scales
nice game
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>>155202954

Same
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>>155203226
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In PvE, after NG, best caster build is 48 int 99 faith. Archdeacons greatstaff is better than court sorcerer, and with that int, you already cast every sorcery in the game.

>"More int for pyro!"
Pyroglove +9

>48/90 = 223 spellbuff

>88/90 = 234 spellbuff

Not worthy in my opinion, only at very high level
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>>155203203
I get pretty butthurt when the reds are attacking watchdogs and theres a host, 2 whites, and they've popped a seed
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>>155203226
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>>155203226
>only dragon weapon that scales
Fluffy tail dagger
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>>155203206
I didn't make the image.
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>>155203406
that's a half dragon weapon you dork
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>>155203297
Why the hell would you want 99 fai?
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>>155203105
Oh yeah, I don't watch the "top" dark souls pvp streamers. They are so fucking whiny.

The thing is, I just watched some of his bloodshade invasions(To see what it was about) and it didn't seem he took it seriously. He even joked about how edgy it was.

The bloodshade thingie do look fun imo. I am happy with my own invading though. Invading together with /dsg/ would probably be fun.
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>invited to 4 groups for this
what did i do???
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>>155203502
You have to put points somewhere, faith scales every type of casting if use deacons staff, but 60 is enough
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>>155203626
>Mork

Gork desu
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>>155197048
>their spells have too much windup to hit anyone with half a brain.

You'd think that after 3-4 "tournaments" with sorcery consistently ranking at the top spots this fucking meme would have died in a fucking fire.

>But I'm better than them

Then you woke up.
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>>155203626
you were a straightsword using passive faggot
that said, it's not like you invited him for some kind of le honoburu duel- if you invade deal with whatever you encounter or fuck off
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>>155203626
Invaders running into lone host are always salty as fuck
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>>155203626
He probably thought you were a faggot for using an SS, even though he's just shit.
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>>155203226
God damn it.
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>>155203626
>2016
>pressing r1
>feigning ignorance
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>soldiers with halberds/greataxes have no poise
>The cleric version of the exact same enemy do
Why?
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>>155203626
You outplayed him, although it wasn't by much.
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>>155203783
>>155203837
whats wrong with using ss? i was only using it because my str&dex stats are low.
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>>155204043

People beat me with SS therefore they're faggots.
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>>155203626
STR baddie being a STR baddie.
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>>155204043
There isn't anything wrong with them, people who suck at the game use them as a scapegoat for their losses.
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>>155204043
it's the most absurd weapon class in the game
very fast speed, good range (with ridiculous phantom range) and high AR- these abominations have all three

yeah, I realise that carthus curved sword is better than any straightsword, but that's an exception, curved swords in general are a worse class than straightswords
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>>155204086
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>>155204086
and this is why i carry a offhand dragonslayer axe
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>>155204086
That's just plain torture, though. There's nothing he can do if you're a brain damaged monkey with that knife.
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>>155204072
>>155204126
fuck off gotthard you're dead
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>DSA fight feels like a duel between knights
>but then there's these faggy ass butterflies who dare to interfere in your battle

Way to ruin a boss. The butterflies orbs are not even hard to dodge, they are mildly annoying if anything.
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>>155204439

Or perhaps...
>Placed "Visions of play dead" in front of him
>Almost nothing but downvotes
What's up with that? I'm not sure if they are mad that I'm making fun of From's fuckup or what.
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>>155196974
>2016
>using CE to counter edgelords

You know what they say: If you can't beat them, join them.
>>
>Dark Souls 3
>shortest game
>bonfires out the ass
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>massive amounts of on-disc cut content that will be sold as DLC
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>rehashed animations
>invasions sucks
>Heavy armor sucks
>armor sets don't even fit properly
>brown and grey
>shit AI
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>Magic itself does reduced damage for PvP
>awful scaling balance
>FP is the most awful casting management system introduced yet (worse than DeS mana, which had better regen options and more efficient)
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one locked behind the final boss
>bland NG+
>awful covenants
>no blue eye orb
>blue sentinels and darkmoons the exact same
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for special weapons resulting in less weapon variety than BB
>very little moveset variation
>existence of Carthus Rouge
>WA are mostly shit or copypasted powerstance moves
>no tech
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frame
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>no dragon covenant
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB

>b-but the DLC will save it!
>b-but other games have faults!
lmfao
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Could you guys help me get started on my 1st DS1 playthrough?

Are there any must-have mods I should get (I'm playing on PC)?

Also what stats should I focus on leveling up and what should I ignore?
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>>155204891
Are you having fun with the 500 other people playing ds2?
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>>155203626
2 groups here
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>>155205013
Get DSfix. It's the only must have mod.
As for builds never level up intelligence (unless you're playing a sorcerer) and resistance imo.
Pyromancer is probably the best starting class.

I'm also sort of new to this so if anyone can correct me, all the better.
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>>155205013
defiently download dsfix. download the mouse fix if you don't have a controller.
Never level up resistance.
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'Tis my purpose in life to eradicate everyone related to the Bloodshades; and finally, their leader. With them dead, the meme of the Bloodshades will live on in my mind only... therefore my own life will be the last one I will take.
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>>155205013

DSfix to make the game look and run better.
DSCM and PvP watchdog for online.
DSMfix for KBM.
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>>155205013
When you level up you're writing in ink. Until you get to 50 vit and 40 endurance you're always safe leveling those stats up.

You can level up, but you can't level down, so pick the class with the lowest numbers in stats you aren't interested in, especially if you want to stop at a PvP soul level. The one exception to this is resistance: your starting resistance has no impact on your SL. It's free. If you've got two classes that are equally good but one has more resistance, pick that one. Don't ever actually level it up though, it's near useless.
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>>155205057
>>155203626
>4 groups
>2 groups

what are you guys talking about?
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>>155205237
Hop to it then, pal.
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>>155205285
since you cant chat with people that aren't your friends with on steam, people instead invite you to groups to talk trash
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0-4 Demon Souls
5-9 Dark Souls 1
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>>155205496
>Shit or Shit
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>>155205461
why would you be invited to the weaboo girls after a bad duel, tho?
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>>155205023
>DS3 is shit
>y-you must be a DS2 a-apologist

lmao
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>>155196870
KNOH
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>>155205539
the groups with a red line next to them are the groups i was invited to after the bad duel.
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>>155205542
Okay. Have fun With the 600 people playing ds1. Lmfao.
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>>155205148
>>155205218
>>155205248
>>155205278

Cheers for the suggestions.

I'm definitely going for a melee build, but I don't if I should make it str or dex focused.

Are quality builds viable? I feel like it might be my safest bet
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>>155205013
Dsfix for general optimization
Dsmfix if you want to use a mouse
Dspw if you want to limit hackers
Dscm if you want to connect to people, specific or otherwise
Never level res
If you want int or fai raise one, not both
Use a wide variety of weapons and see what you like best. Same for spells
Points in vit and end are always good
Don't give up ever. There is always a way out. Take a break if you need to.
Explore.
Avoid spoiling yourself at all costs
KILL THE DOGS FIRST
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can aldrich faithfuls attack/be attacked by other invaders?
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>>155205535
Go fucking kill yourself, you underage contrarian piece of shit
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>>155205687
pffhaha
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>>155205661
You should go back to your MOBAs if you think multiplayer is what these games are about.
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>>155205663
Quality builds are good. Use bandit instead of warrior, it gets slightly more elemental resistances with 8/10 int/faith as opposed to the warriors 9/9 for some reason. I think it's a rounding thing, there's no difference at 99 humanity. Also consider pyromancer for black flame. Pyromancy only requires attunement slots.
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>>155205686
other aldrich, no.
other red/purple, yes.
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>>155205772
>doesn't like multiplayer
>wondering why games seem to lack replay value
Found the problem
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>>155204605
rated negative by:
Black Hand Gotthard
Gotthard of Lothric
Hunter Gotthard
Gotthard
Swordsman Gotthard
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>>155203297
Misleading in the extreme. Archdeacon's with 99 Faith is stronger than Court Sorcerer's with 48 Int. Court Sorcerer with 60int is stronger than Archdeacon's with 99 Faith, mostly because Archdeacon's softcaps hard at 45 Faith.

Also, I really hope you aren't trying to compare spell tools using their spellbuffs. Spell buff is only accurate when comparing pure Int scaling staves against each other, but for some reason whatever formula its based on goes haywire whenever Faith is factored into the equation. There's also the matter of spells having their own damage and scaling modifiers, and whatever catalyst you cast them with is only a small part of the final damage spells deal. This is why, pulling a random example here, Soul Arrows deal less damage than Soul Spears instead of all sorceries doing the exact same damage, or why Chaos Bed Vestiges is among the strongest spells in the game even when the pyro flame itself isn't all that powerful.
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best anti-bloodshade madman build? surprise weeb blade combo in their back?
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>>155205013
>parrying gwyn is the best tactic
>zweihander with lightning upgrade is one of the best weapons in the game
>the sunlight in anor londo is an illusion. kill gwynevere to turn it to night
>you need to open that door in the forest and kill the boss to get the last lord soul that is in new londo.
>AVOID SPOILERS!!!

good luck =)
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>>155206159
hot
could you make a ds3 version of this mod please?

I tried, but I can't open some of the textures
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Can you tank bosses hits with sunlight talisman Unfaltering Prayer?
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>>155206420
you can tank greathammers with it, so it's safe to assume that you can tank bosses too
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>>155206420
what makes you think not?
>killed yhorm with just sunlight spears
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>>155205935
thx, im going to use a dried finger and watch what happens
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>>155205461
I want to be a weeaboo girl
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>>155206219

Post the textures somewhere and I'll see what I can do.
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>>155205013
One advice that nobody will give you here is to play the game at 30fps. It adds more to the game, it's not made to be played at 60fps.
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>>155206712
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I'm just a hopeless romantic.
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>>155206826
>avatarfag
I'll agree on the hopeless part.
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>>155206826
Prime numbers lamo
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Since steady chant on your left staff affects your staff on the right hand, can steady chant affects chimes and the pyromancy glove too?
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>>155206995
good point, i dont think so but pls test it
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>>155206219
Are they tga? I use gimp to extract them but you could use Photoshop too I think
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>>155206826
start using tripcode degenerate
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>>155206807
Retarded reasoning but not entirely wrong. There are a few engine bugs associated with 60 fps, like falling through the floor after sliding down a certain ladder and being unable to make the jump to iaito
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>>155206613
http://www.megafileupload.com/k9h2/boots.RAR
these are the textures that showed up after I deleted all contents of the dump folder and put the hunter boots on
I can only open one of them and it definitely looked like the hunter boots' texture, but changing just that one didn't work properly
I also included a screenshot of my character's face for skin color reference
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>>155206995
Steady chant only applies to sorceries. You can buff the crystal chime with it, if you want.
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>>155206967
What, you want me to seriously list some without making shit up for replies?

2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29

>>155206915
Hopeless in this context is different than 'hopeless.'

>>155207153
Why would I?
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>>155207746
>Steady chant only applies to sorceries.
>You can buff the crystal chime with it

So only sorceries casted by it?
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>>155207831
Yes.
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>no any new DLC news
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>>155207807
>without making shit up for replies
'TWAS BUT A LARK
I WAS MERELY PRETENDING
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>>155207703

Sorry Anon, I can't open them either. I think it's some new format of DDS because despite having the plugins for GIMP and Irfanview I can't open them.
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Recommended level for High Wall of Lothric trolling with undead white ring and moundmakers?

Also which rings other than Prisoner's Chain?
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I WANT AN ANTI BLOODSHADE COVENANT RUN BY DSG
MAKE IT HAPPEN
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Same desu
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>>155208121
I get lots at SL13, only gained the 5 levels from Yoel so I could use the Morion Blade and make a super obvious Londor cosplay. Got 30 shackles in a day, half of them from hosts standing around in Warmths while I aimed a lifedrain at them.

>>155208150
Wasn't that, like, the topic of the last two threads? Go back and ctrl+f "bloodshade", I'm sure you'll find something to work with.
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The bloodshade thing is kinda cool, I wish it happened in a better game though.
Because DaS3 is fucking shit if you catch my drift.
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>>155207969
It isn't that hard to. /dsg/ is not very smart.
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>>155208150
fuck off kid the autismshades shit is dead just like the playerbase of souls games on PC, i was right this whole shite is dead/forgotten literally a day or two later
Kill yourself
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SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUP WITH THIS BLOODSHADE SHIT
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>>155208408
It won't stop until they're all dead, anon.
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>>155208404
Nice
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>>155208150
Figure out the highest level SL140s can invade, find the most ideal bleed resistance gear, encourage metashitter weapons, set a password to summon with, hang out with two phantoms up where the Bloodshades tend to meet, gank them before they can all meet up.
Also hope that anyone will give enough of a shit to join in.
They won't.
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Why does everyone have a pocket CCS?
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>>155208150
Name should be something related to some cleaning agent considering peeve created mustard gas or something.
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>>155208534
because it's good?
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>>155208375
>Tumblr
>He doesn't crop his own panels
Disgusting
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>>155208583
Why is it acceptable for one single weapon to be so objectively superior to any other?
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>>155208534
But anon, I don't have one.
I have a pocket offhand estoc.
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>>155208150
Lampshades
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>>155208710
Simply because it is and no one gives a damn
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Notice how everything cancerous comes specifically only from PCucks, for example this EdgeShade aka "Peevee:Oh god i'm fucking outdated now ans losing game quickly please remember me i need attention" shit started on reddit and PC only, then more cancerous PCucks that browse reddit spread it to here? Also Jojobronies/MLP are a PCuck only thing, etc meanwhile consoles are just playing the game without any shitposting at all because they're not retarded apes?
Why are PCucks the biggest cancer to ever exist?
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>>155208710
You know, I wouldn't mind all too much if at the very least most weapons were at least viable. DaS2 had a dickload more weapons, and off the top of my head, the only ones that were objectively trash were work hook and ladle, and one of those is a joke weapon.
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>>155208768
It's PS4 based you dummy.
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>>155208768
Notice how everything cancerous comes specifically only from Consolefags, for example this EdgeShade aka "Peevee:Oh god i'm fucking outdated now ans losing game quickly please remember me i need attention" shit started on reddit and console only, then more cancerous Consolefags that browse reddit spread it to here? Also Jojobronies/MLP are a Consolefag only thing, etc meanwhile PC is just playing the game without any shitposting at all because they're not retarded apes?
Why are Consolefags the biggest cancer to ever exist?
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>>155208768
Do you speak english?
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>>155208121
I get settlement invasions as an SL 26, and as a deprived I can get to SL 13 just by killing everything in firelink. SL 16 is the first level that can invade two levels downwards, that might be a good point to aim for.

Lingering dragoncrest is actually decent with flame arc since the base duration is already longer than normal. If you can habanero hardswap or whatever the fuck it's called nowadays, you can switch the bellowing off for hornet then pop a lightning bundle as you parry to splooge all over whoever you're riposting.
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>>155208725
Off-hand rapiers was nerfed you stupid faggot, now you know why you still lose. That's like a signal of "oh god look how fucking retarded i am i still think offhand rapiers still work"
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hey jojoposter come 1v1 me high wall

t. 212 man
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>>155208768
Jokes on you anon. Most of the Bloodshades are on PS4.
https://twitter.com/Peeverson/status/777577433855778816
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>>155208710
It's not, but from doesn't care. I don't want to lose, If I can win by unzipping my Card Captors I will.
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>>155208825
You're forgetting bkga
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>>155204891
Now I remember why I started a cpuple new characters in DS1
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>>155208849
>>155208850
>>155208872
Stop responding to the fucking obvious bait posts, you inbred mongoloids.
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>>155208872
>spotted the mad af Jojobrony
kys kiddo
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>>155208956
Who gives a fuck you bred cunt
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>>155208885
>that's the joke
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>>155208768
Peeve is a sonybrony, /v/tard.
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>vg hates jojo now
No you guys kys
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>>155208768
Every single fucking time I check this general you're shitposting with the same inane buzzword garbage good lord fucking kill yourself already
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>>155209021
this

replying to bait, feigning ignorance of its purpose as bait keeps threads alive
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>>155208921
>tfw ps4
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>>155208984
You seem to be in a tizzy over nothing.
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>>155208849
>>155208850
>>155208921
>these pathetic butthurt PCucks trying to falseflag after they backpedal super hard when their legit ganking group failed just like Pee's edge shit
the past 2 threads ago says otherwise, it was literally only PCucks making a group and also crying why PC is dead
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>>155209163
1 free (You) :^)
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>>155209090
kiss
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>>155209090
Blame the jojofag, anon. His obnoxious avatarposting is even getting on my nerves, and I'm a turboautist when it comes to jjba.
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>>155209197
u know a kid is mad af when all they can say is (You)
UMAD
KeKysKiddo
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>>155208825
The reason why people think mid tier weapons in 2 were good was because only casuals had the patience to keep playing that chore. It wasn't a more balanced game, it was just that the average player was worse at discovering the meta. The top tier builds in 2 are way worse than 3's. Even heavy weapons are better in 3, the only reason you'll see more results with them in 2 is because the games populated with ~500 retards.
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>defeat opponent
>sheathe armadyl godsword by dual-wielding caestus
>slow walk away

god fucking damn i hope they add a ring that either lets us dual-wield our fists or makes offhand weapons invisible
>>
>Corvian Memeknife
>Fast as fuck, sick crit damage
>Good range
>Now you can even use the l2 when you know you overmemed it and the guy is going to parry next because your l2 is unparriable now
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>>155209296
:^)
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>>155209090
He is a casual who has to google shitty screencaps instead of taking the minute to crop some himself and probably doesn't even download new chapters.
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>>155209090
>4chan likes mainstream tumblr shit now
fuck off
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>>155209325
>armadyl godsword
excuse you?
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>>155209482
>now
4chan is an 18+ website
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>>155209325
>ring to do this

It should have already been in the fucking game. It was in the bullshots, but incompetent japanese hacks can't do proper game development for shit.
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>>155209325
hidden weapon? takes sometime but it's doable, especially if you cast before the killblow
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>>155209325
It's as if this whole board doesn't know about the fists exploit
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>>155209396
Most of my crops are from /a/, I just prefer to use bato.to
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>untrue rings come from Londor

Why are londorians such shady bastards?
>>
>summon metafag at pontiffs
>bks + nerfedstoc
>tfw no dark dark sword
>decide to pull out ccs because i have nothing else to counter this
>dip css in ketchup
>go to town on turtlebro
>block block block block
>block block
>block block block
>accidentally fuck up spacing of a r1 combo
>get counterstruck combo'd for 600+ damage
>enoughofthisshit.jpeg
>begin to play super passive
>stick to spamming running r1
>finally takes my bait and becomes more aggressive
>I r1-r1
>hits
>expects me to roll away, but I keep spamming R1
>css machine gun time
>bleed + r1 spam
>he dies

God I fucking hate greatshield turtles. First time I think I've ever beat one before.

How the fuck can you stand playing so defensively all the time? God, how fucking boring.
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>>155209901
>abyss fanclub ran by kaathe
how could you expect anything else
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>>155209901
Superheroes need to hide their identities anon
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>>155209992
run*
fugg
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>>155210098
ran was proper english though

chill out you dumb sperg
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>>155208150
just invade as 140 bloodshade/lampshade madmen and hunt them that way

we can wear a unique headpiece or something in case we meet up in the same world
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>>155209587
>Most of my crops are from /a/
I've noticed because some of them are mine
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>>155209901
>invade
>gank squad oh shit!
>instant kill first phantom as see him
>it's red
I hate untrue ring users. Using those in game where you invade 99% of time ganksquads is stupid.
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>>155210287
I think you misclicked posts there.

Nonetheless, I save most crops so I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>155210178
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>>155210460
>Am I reading? What the fuck
>>
>Pontiff Sulyvahn
The most bullshit boss in the entire series
>>
>tfw no berserk souls
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>>155210717
lmoa just parry him
poison him with the storyteller staff and keep running away if you're actually too shit at the game to parry him
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>>155210847
>Needing parry cheese
>Not fighting him man to man with a big fuckoff sword
Disgracefull
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>>155210847
or just kill him by attacking until he dies
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>>155209603
>zero replies
I wonder if /vg/ knows whether or not you can parry the DSGA WA
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>>155210946
>disgracefull
Disgraceful.
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>>155210978
how about you go back to /v/eddit
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>>155211098
How about you go take 2k damage from demon's fist normo
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>>155211054
mind the edge master
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>>155211054
Fuck
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>>155211171
implying I'll get hit by it
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>>155209901
Because when you're a tiny underground kingdom whose citizens are all banished outcasts from other kingdoms for being being walking abominations against life, and the only religion in town is founded by three people who all secretly work for the same guy that both orchestrated the Abyss's existence in the first place and later created an organization to exploit it, and said guy/founders want to take over the world by breaking it more so that only they and their hollow selves can survive there, shadiness is just something you do naturally.
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So, now that this is the last game, everything's been resolved, right? I haven't beaten it yet, because I wanna do the DLC first, like I did in DaS1. This one has a proper resolution, right? Everyone's happy at the end, right? Please tell me there's a happy ending.
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>>155210978
>DSGA WA
This has been known since the first few weeks

>Fist exploit
Why dont you enlighten us then?
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>>155211375
He's probably talking about using kicks in the middle of combos to extend them, because he's a retard who doesn't know what exploit means.
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>>155211345
I really wish they added a happy ending for the culmination of the trilogy, but there isn't one.
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>>155211345
yes, you reunite with your waifu and she loves you dearly
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>>155211345
>Please tell me there's a happy ending
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>>155211520
lord of hollows is a happy ending you dumbass
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>>155211345
1. Relink the flame but it's only enough to keep it going for a little bit longer, barely sputters.
2. Fire fades as you sit in the dark with Firekeeper, flame will come back again someday as is the cyclic nature
3. Kill the Firekeeper and steal the flame for yourself, becoming a god like being as the fire fades away
4. Steal the flame thanks to the power of hollows, while becoming the lord of hollows. Inconsequential since the fire returns.
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>>155211601
lmao
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>>155211375
>>155211456
No I mean the actual 2k stunlock combo that involves no kicks whatsoever

https://youtu.be/FCa8OcqfAoc
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>>155211670
what the fuck does that have to do with wanting to use your actual fists dual wielded like in das2
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>>155211670
Oh the caestus combo?
dont say fist then, it confused the hell out of me
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>>155211649
>precisely describing every ending to somebody who hasn't beaten the game yet
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>>155211758
>He didn't know what it was
How is that not "dual wielding fists"
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>>155211456

Which attacks chain to kicks in DaS3? Isn't the stagger too short?
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>>155211345
It's always 2 endings of which none are actually good. I'm surprised we even got 3 this time.
I wonder if the 2 dlc are going to change the ending in any way.
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>>155210685
woah, newfound powers
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>>155211830
because that's not what he meant dumbshit
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>>155211670
>legit punching combos
>using kicks to chain combos longer
please miyazaki for the love of god let us keep this. Fists have NOTHING
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>>155211670
you dumb shit
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"just parry it bro"
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>>155211670
legitimately retarded, the point was to hide the caestus for cinematic points.
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>>155211961
You samefag
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>>155211662
found a way to get the eye of the priestess in ds1
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>>155211541
Lady of the Darkling!? I knew she wasn't dead!
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>>155212030
wrong again dumshit
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>>155211993
>>155211961
>exactly 30 seconds apart
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This is pretty cool desu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7fIDYIINHM
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>>155212181
That's right anon, the curse is ended, everyone you loved comes back to life, you all live happily ever after and nothing bad ever happens again.

Also, Gwyndolin switches to a sporty gothic getup because he's cool like that.
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>>155212326
NO IT'S NOTI T'S LAGSTAB LAGSTAB JAPSTAB DASTARD!!!
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>>155212326
I mean it's a second degree read if you pull it off, but it's not it's own technique really.
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>>155212403
Fuck. I'm literally crying now. I want to die.
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So was there ever a counter to the Bloodshades or was that just /dsg/ getting mad over nothing and doing nothing about it?

I want a Crusaders covenant, that seemed like a cool idea. Also I want DS3 to collect less fucking dust, jesus christ I picked it up and put it down after like, 2 playthroughs.
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>>155212559
All the loose threads are pulled together and neatly tied off, old family members reunite as you meet new friends you never knew you had, and you all go on new adventures that the pretty blind storytellers will read to new adventurers, forever and ever while tiny dark monsters slowly chew them from the inside out and they beg for a death that'll never come because we're all hollow and damned to suffer forever and ever and even should blissful death come one day the bells of awakening will toll and we'll all rise again and watch the same stories play out as the same hopes shrivel and the same lives die over and over again and the only way to end it all is to break reality itself and steal the first flame so the dark blankets and smothers the world forever

Keep that chin up, anon! It'll all be okay in the end!
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>>155196837
Could I copy one of my characters, then edit his name, give him 99 souls of a great champion, and 99 of every titanite without getting softbanned?

all I'd need to do is launch steam in offline mode right?
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>>155213117
I have no idea. I'd rather not just be reactionary, if there were to be a cob it'd need to have a broader motive.
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>>155213117
I'm hunting them now as purple lampshade patches

I don't expect people to make 170 characters
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>>155213443
protectors of ariandel cov we protect the little painter girl
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All this talk of death is morbid and stuff. Post Souls cuties!
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>>155213583
Me neither. I used cheating shit in DS2 about a year after release because I didn't want to grind out a 20th character for builds, but DS3 seems to catch onto shit like that, or at least, I know it will for me. I'd like to get back into PvP but grinding out characters is the most god damn draining thing.
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>>155213387
yes, make family shared account to be safe. you can import saved appearances by swapping savefiles.
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Game is actually filled with 12 year olds who think they're good because they have a hornet ring, ok.
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>>155213736
to be quite honest, if they can land parries they're pretty good

i dont get how people do that shit
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>>155213387
Read OP's links
-/dsg/ CE suport service
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>>155213917
lol, that guide is bad on purpose to get me banned
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>>155213674
Cute!
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>>155213789
Yeah, but he was actually spamming L2 with a Caestus. Like, just please stop. Not to mention, he was wearing the edgy Black Knight armor.
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>>155213789
Biggest secret the fanbase never told you is that setup parries are actually really easy and have nothing to do with lag timing. Block two hits and press the parry button. Hornet riposte for the win.

It's blind parries that take literal precognition to pull off.
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>>155213686
it's safe enough. if you don't want to cheat you can always ask someone to drop you a shitload of souls.
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>>155213941
That's the point heh
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>>155213117
>tfw joined bloodshades only for potential 3v3s

I don't know how long i can keep up, I want to make a DMB fugs build but for 50str/60fai/40vig&end and 20 something vit to not fatroll i'd have to go to 170. Oh and it would be a purple
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>>155213789
>good
I'd say "better than the average host", given that the average host doesn't even know about parrying 3rd swings
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>>155213674
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>>155214264
Why. I don't want to be banned but I don't want to fucking grind out another 10 - 15 hours for a fucking build.
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Anyone for dancer co-op on Xbox? Pass is dsg
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>>155214264
If I make a family sharing account and get banned, can I feign ignorance and say that "hey iits me ur brother" hacked and get my account back?
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>>155214327
How about DMB hollow greatsword instead
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>>155214102
I honest to god hate the caestus. It just really bothers me seeing everyone with piece of leather strapped to their fists. Why must it be better than parrying shields and the parrying dagger?
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>>155213674
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>>155214407
>40/40/30+10/60
Yeah, how? That would be a sl200+ char
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>>155214407
Doesn't the drakeblood become better if you're buffing?
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>>155214536
>/d/s/g
CM please
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>>155214406
if your family shared account gets the warning you just make a new one

that's the point
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>>155214539
no vig hypermode
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>>155214102
>losing to l2 spam
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>>155214635
oh right so your family shared account isn't actually linked to your first one, you can just use CE on the family shared one and even if you get warned you can redo it all on a new account, and keep doing it until you dont get the warning
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>>155214536
... holy shit, jojofaggot really is lucifer. I was just joking, I didn't think he actually was.

Lucy, you fucking cocknigger, put your trip on and leave it on.
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>>155214654
for ganks? yeah sure
>inb4 lmao don't get hit while using a slow ass weapon
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>>155214363
>>155214406
My sides, kek.
I'm not spoonfeeding this, use Google
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>>155214762
Do it faggot.
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>>155214730
He's similarly cancerous, but Lucy is far too much of a pussy to play on PC.
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>>155214719
yes

but you probably won't get banned if you just drop souls and weapons. I only got banned when I fucked around with cut content like armors and rings.
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>>155214730
I wouldn't be suprised given that they're received the same way, but what in the picture indicates that?
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>>155214741
you probably kill people in two hits with darkmoonblade hollow greatsword so it's heaven or hell
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>>155214363
>10 - 15 hours
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Anyone up to assist on PC? OcelAUGH is kicking my shit
Signs at the fog if interested, pass is dsg
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>>155214859
Luci said the same lines before when talking about his wanna-be trap life. Verbatim. Can't even horomone like a proper trap.
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>>155214927
going there
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>>155214846

Who's this then?
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>>155214960
To be honest I don't feel like taking your word for it, but on the other hand it's not like it makes a difference.
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>>155214960
but lucifer plays on ps4
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>>155215103
>not posting a picture of that memer; Dorkmoon Lucifer
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>>155214960
When was that?
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>>155214730
>>155214846
I unironically find lucy much less cancerous than jojofag
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>>155215121
I guess there really isn't a difference. Nevermind, then.

>>155215189
About two years ago. I don't want to remember, I just can't forget things.
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>>155201297
but I thought Ornstein was the dragon
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>>155215103
that character's attractiveness is AT LEAST average
lucifag's waifus are absolutely hideous
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>>155215306
No he's the sandworm you sandnigger
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>>155214846
Pretty much. Lucy gets way to persistent in his arguments. There is always the other tripfag, but I doubt it...
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>>155215023
Thanks bleedbro, i appreciate it
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>>155214927
>>155215023
Done
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>>155215346
I remember people were giving lucifag shit about not getting the platinum for DaS2, and he said it was because his main account wasn't on PS4.
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Doin a ds1-3 marathon.

twitch@comfywarrior
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Anyone has a good DS SL1 guide?
I'm planning to start blind, but I'll probably want to check a guide eventually.
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If I make a character on my family account with cheat engine, is there any way to add it onto my regular account?
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>>155215561
What do people get from platinum a game?
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>>155215692
>SL1 guide?
>I'm planning to start blind
are you going to do sl1 on your first playthrough?
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>>155215814
Wasted time?
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>>155215636

Please parry Black Knight.
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>>155215814
Nothing of value. At least, not normally. Sony gave people some free theme for getting the platinum in Bloodborne, and it was rumored that all the people who got into the DaS3 beta test were ones who'd platinumed the previous games.

So, nothing of value in the game itself at least, and so far the only time I've heard of people getting anything for a platinum is this franchise.
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>>155213503
Is she Priscilla's daughter? She's the daughter of Chosen Undead and Priscilla, right?
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>>155216163
>she
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>>155215874
No, I've played DS1 before.
I mean I haven't checked any guides or anything related to SL1, so I'll just try to figure and improvise at the beginning.
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Does anyone still play on the P S 3 ?
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>>155216227
You think? I'm not talking about Gwyndolin.
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>>155215814
Proof of terminal autism
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>>155213117
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>>155216340
That's prince Lothric, and he's definitely a boy. A scrawny femboy like Gwyndolin who probably even has the same voice actor, but a boy nonetheless.
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>>155216430
No it's not. It's the Darkmoon girl.
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>>155216430
That's Yorshka, blind-o, holy dicks
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>>155216430
>prince lothric
Disregard this, I'm retarded. That's clearly Yorshka without the giant pink tail.
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>>155216282
that's hardly going blind, you should be familiar on how to exploit game mechanics
if you haven't got it yet, pyromancies and chaos/lightning weapons are your friends
for specifics, the handaxe is very quick and is good for killing faster mobs safely, otherwise your best options are chaos reinforced club and blacksmith's giant hammer.
fap a shit past the first half of the game as anything will oneshot you by sneezing on you anyway
rtsr a best
bellowing and dwgr a second best
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>>155196837
>Tfw gravelording TotG
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>>155212326
>all dat BS techs
>toggle escape with low poise builds
meanwhile in DS3 no poise, 2 hit combo and everythign is shit
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>>155216096
Well Ok, steam doesn't do much in that department either
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Why isn't there a blue eye orb?
Why can't you get concords if you invade as a blue?
Why is Dark Souls 3 so awful?
I hope the DLC fixes this. If Bloodborne's DLC added a new covenant I don't see why Dark Souls can't get their shit together
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>>155216686

Were you gravelording Lower Burg and Undead Parish earlier? The BP Berenike Knight hits hard as fuck, got invaded by a Tarkus cosplay as well at the same time.
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>>155216609
I played DS1 years ago, only beat it once and barely played since that. I know I'm not actually going blind, but I'm not familiar at all with the game, I mostly remember the bosses and some areas.
Thanks for the advice.
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>>155216883
Bb's covenant was LITERALLY nothing

>co-op now gives an item with zero use besides being an edgy emote
Fucking wow
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>>155216719
>implying bs techs were a good thing and not a broken exploit to get the most out of a broken mechanic

Backstab games were the dumbest rock-paper-scissors in the series, and I'm glad they're gone. The whole game devolved taking advantage of lag to backstab people who were trying to backstab you while you were trying to backstab them because they tried to backstab you because you tried to predict their backstab before they could do it to you first only now you guessed wrong so you get teleported five feet to the left and crystal great club hornet poiselagstabbed to death onisirigashimas desu familia brono

Literally none of that would work in a LAN party. Speaking of, Dark Souls really needs to allow local area network already.
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fuck you cant even transfer accounts from family sharing that is so fucking stupid, and I'll just get banned if I do on my main account

i fucking hate from why do they force us to farm for 40 years to make a new character
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>>155216932
Not me but post some pics of that Tarkus.
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>>155217193
>40 years
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>>155203226
Beautiful irony
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>>155217250

Didn't take any, I was too terrified of dying.
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>>155217296
its not possible to get that many souls in 3 hours anyway
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>>155216883
Considering BB and DS3 were developed at the same time and this is the first Das after BB, we might get a new covenant.
Why would you be able to store covenant at the bonfire?
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>>155217032
Technically, the League was included with a free patch update and it did actually have benefits besides smashing vermin and ranking how many vermin you crushed like some kind of friendly competitive sunbros. Equipping the league rune would also let you summon exclusive NPCs in case you couldn't find anyone else, and also boosted your HP when summoned for co-op. It was technically the most functional pure co-op covenant yet.

The DLC covenants were the Beast's Embrace and Milkweed runes, which weren't so much covenants as they were lifestyles.
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>>155205461
Wu Tang Clan guy gets around I guess
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>>155216932
>that ass
>>155216991
forgot to mention, silver and black knight shields can be used if placed on the right hand and 2handed. and even if you're not doing 100% (kalameet and manus can be real pricks with all their defenses) make sure you get black flame. on ng+ you can block/dodge ornman's first hit and then blow your hot, heavy load on him, it will stunlock him and pretty much end him if you have rtsr/bellowing/dusk. don't even need pw although it helps.
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>>155217364
Then how have I done it five times, while getting all estus upgrades and untrue dark ring, with the best so far barely going over 2:30?
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>>155217502
Not the moron you're talking to, but I'm going to assume you killed the dancer and farmed tar snakes.
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>>155217573
How a nigga gonna max estus farming snakes? Just getting soul gear early and killing most of the bosses ends up SL90-95, then a few rounds of winged knights for souls and free chunks and you're golden.
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>>155215213
at least he doesnt shit up every op with avatarfagging and different titles, not to mention forcing bb discussion
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>>155217502
You tell me, because theres' no evidence of this being possible without cheat engine
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>>155217724
http://speedsouls.com/Main_Page
u dumb
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>>155217667
Did he say he was getting max estus? I must've missed that.

If that's the case, and assuming it's true that he doesn't use CE, then he's probably using some dupe gli...

>>155217754

... 22 minutes?
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>>155217754
I keep seeing "Any%" in streams and speedruns.
What does it mean?
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>>155217296
>still can't make a build under 1h
Damn
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>>155217824
I said it in the very post you replied to. And no, my route doesn't use any glitches. There are no dupes in 3 and you get 90% of the levels just from beating the game, which I want to do anyways for PVP characters.
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>>155217996
Beat the game, no other restrictions
VS kill every boss or whatever
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>>155217996
Run doesn't 100% the game. Mostly applies to stuff like platformers where there's collectable upgrades and stuff.
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>>155218000
>you
That was my first reply in your conversation, anon. It still isn't something I can believe without seeing a video, though.
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>>155218265
/dsg/, says so in the corner.
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>>155218265
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>>155218265
I don't have the exact source, but I remember where it's from. From accidentally released the developer version of DaS1 for the PC at some point, and some clever person cracked it like an egg. We found out lots of useful information that way.
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>>155218426
>>155218453
yeah but are there any more webms or videos?
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>>155218515
Videos of people running around as various NPCs and bosses, yes. Especially Artorias.
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>>155218504
oh i see thank you
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>>155218515
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>>155218638
Damn, chester's animations are smooth as silk.
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>>155218638
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>>155218209
https://www.twitch
.tv/nemz38/v/82117782
If you can beat the entire game in 48 minutes without even using teardrop you can certainly take an extra couple hours to grab all the shards and maximize souls. If you were optimal as fuck you could probably get close to 2:00 flat and if I didn't bother with estus or all the bullshit required for untrue dark ring that would shave off a half hour at least.
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>invade
>memeshades gets obliterated by smough and ornstein cosplay
kek
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>>155218784
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>tfw doing a dual-wield/wolf curved sword build
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>>155218209
Different anon, just expressing discontent and self-disappointment
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>>155218929
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>>155218638
That kick should be a crossbow WA
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>>155218929
>>155218784
>>155218638
>you can't invade as boss
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>>155220106

I just realised that they used this as a gesture in DaS3.
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>Pickaxe 2H moves can be parried
aaaand now it's greatlance tier
what the fuck
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>>155220245
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Why wasn't there a Smough expy boss as well as an Ornstein one?
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>>155219946
any intel on this animation?
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>>155220327
DS3
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>>155220526

Giant Blacksmith cut quest line probably.
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>>155218638
>we never got such throwing knives even in bloodborne where they could've been some expensive as fuck vileblood equipment
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>>155221363
>>155220896
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>>155221363
yeah, that quite obvious. i meant the details. have you/anyone tried to see if the "thing" he's holding matches the crates littering the painted world?
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>>155220879
Smough was a cannibal and his soul did not endure
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>>155221593
My first thought was the chest with the hawk ring in it.
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>>155221543
>green health
>googly blossoms
Excuse me
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Being a superpassive douchebag against 2kat users is so cute. You can feel their desperation while draining all their flasks because their win button ain't working.
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>>155221631

Smough's soul somehow corrupted Aldrich and that is how he developed a taste for human flesh
>You get Smough's armor when you kill Aldrich
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>>155222046
>implying Aldritch ain't Smough himself
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>>155221765
most basic of hud mods, m8. if you feel like it, you can make your own. edit this as a transparent png the way you like it and drop it in data\dsfix\tex_override without changing the name. customization can be fun
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>>155222046
that would be cool but aldrich was already eating people before going to Anor Londo
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>>155222224
dat miss
>>155222222
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>>155222036
>dodge an attack
>receive no damage
>bleed builds up
What the hell? Is it the netcode?
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>>155222224
>before going to Anor Londo
Irithyll/AL is his birthplace.
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>>155222160
Yeah I meant more who in their right mind would make hp GREEN
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>>155222271
If you get hit during iframes, status buildup continues. It's an ancient glitch of the engine From never got rid of.
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>>155222417

On the plus side you can i-frame the bleed proc too
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>>155222143
aldritch was a fat cleric, smough a built executioner
>>155222392
oh, agree on that. i hope you weren't implying there's something wrong with googly eyes on blossoms
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>>155222224

Yeah but maybe smough's soul was somewhere in the abyss and shit and Aldrich got into contact with it while doing abysal things
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Smough would just be another "Big Dudes In Armor" boss, so I guess I can see why it's better not to have him
But between the Deep lore and the other transforming bosses, cracking open Smough's armor to reveal a swirling chaotic mass of Deep would be pretty sick
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>>155208375
get back to jacking off to dio on dio bara
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Why did the make the Dragonslayer Armour edgier in DS3? Why not just make a new boss?
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>>155222664
DIO's not even the hottest JoJo character by a mile.
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>>155222787
you wot? it is a new boss
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>>155196837
okay I duped a character, edited his attributes, spawned in a bunch of items and now im booting steam up in online mod, wish me luck
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>>155222270
fug

>>155222291
need source.
I only know they imprison him in the cathedral of the deep, don't remember reading about birthplace.
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>>155222904
>tfw it worked and im not banned

thank fuck
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>>155222949
>need source.
Anri:
>Oh. And we meet again. We spoke before on the road of sacrifices. Anri of Astora. I am well pleased to see you safe. We reached the Cathedral of the Deep, but Aldrich's coffin was empty. The man-eater must have left for his true home. The little doll in the empty coffin told me. Aldrich is said to hail from Irithyll in the Boreal Valley, an ancient fabled city..."
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>>155222894
But it's still Ornstein the dragonslayer
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>>155223103
>>155222949

>Small silverwork doll depicting a young squire.

>In the legendary old city of Irithyll situated in the Boreal Valley, the Pontiff Sulyvahn gave this doll to valued subjects, so that they might use it to cross the barrier when they return home.

>Listen carefully, and you can hear it say, "Wherever you go, the moon still sets in Irithyll. Wherever you may be, Irithyll is your home."
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>>155223275
no it's not. not only ornstein was a dragonslayer, doofus. there is no indication for that. and why would he respec from a dex leaning quality build to a pure strength one? shit makes no sense
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>>155223275
nah, you find Ornstein's discarded set and his spear after the fight with Nameless King
so I don't think it's really him
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>>155223275
i swear to god you fags don't read item description
it's an armor of dragonslayer who served both Ornstein and NK
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>>155223275
Its just his armor animated by the pilgrim butterflies, you can even kill it with a bow and the armor will die too
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>>155223510
Who? The Dragonslayer Armour boss or the previous owner of the set you find after NK?
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>>155223275
I guess the best way to get (You)'s is just to lack basic reading comprehension.
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lmao peeves shitty edge """""covenant""""" is dead already
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>>155223795
I have been fighting alone(mostly) in dried finger anor londo at SL 60 and they invaded me a lot. They even tried to gank me(or the blues), which is ironic.

These two died even when we split up into 1v1s.
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>>155224252
Also this cute hidden body dragon was in my world for like 2 hours+ while I fought the invaders. Dried Finger Anor Londo is crazy.
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>>155223795
not even close to being dead unfortunately
majority of them are still making "builds"
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>>155223103
>>155223292
Well I'll be damned.
Returning to the original point, I doubt the Aldrich developed his habit straight from eating Smough.
he was probably a knight at that time...
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so it's just me or does the Kiln sits inside a broken/burnt Archtree? I know you can see the molten pillars from DaS Kiln, but still
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>>155223103


I actually didn't catch that. That's interesting, I can't really imagine Smough being a cleric though. Maybe it was just an excuse to eventually get free human meals all day.
In that case Smough got a canon look with the comic though. Canon because Bamco owns Dark Souls.
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>>155224631
watch the intro of ds1 and notice where the first flame was found, anon
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>>155224631
anon, you may be blind. the kiln in ds1 was on top of an archtree too
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>>155224631

It was like that in DaS as well, if I remember correctly. It's kind of hard to see in that game though.
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>>155224675
the definition of "cleric" in souls games is vague as fuck
havel is considered to be a bishop yet in any sane rpg system he would be qualified as paladin
smough is an executioner, maybe in reality he was something akin to an inquisitor and held some religious power
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>>155224706
>>155224790
>>155224792
yeah, that's what I realized just today, I was rewatching Souls series FMVs and I noticed that. well, thanks
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>>155223795
there's plenty of them at sl140
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>>155224825
his job was straight up to kill people
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>>155200379
Bump
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>>155225192
not him but I just invaded with my bloodshade build that I just got using cheat engine, it was a 2 v 2 and me and another bloodshade comboed our 2 kat combos to double bleed stunlock a host
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dark souls crashes on startup what do?
using windows 10
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>>155225423
tried reinstalling? did you drop the crack on the correct directory?
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>>155225423
start with google and come back to see if you got replies.
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>>155225267
>>155225192
Even if they are edgy as fuck, I have to say all of this is pretty fun. I have only fought them but it gives invasions a lot of personality imo. It feels like a good old dark souls 1 event.
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>>155225626
yeah I feel dirty having such an edgy name but its so good to combo bleed
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If frostbite becomes more prominent in the dlc(environment hazard, equipment and so on) it would be pretty fun to have some frostbite irithyllian invasion army in the dlc.
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>>155196837
What's the best level and location for low level pvp? I'm level 20 at the first settlement bonfire and I feel pretty over leveled
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>>155202232
I PRAISE EVERY SINGLE DAAAAYY
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>>155223795
Threadly reminder that Bloodshades are the best thing for DS3 pvp and even if you don't like Peeve or the edginess of the covenant it's beside the point because it's all about the invaders.

Peeve was sucking his own dick very hard over the idea granted, but if it catches on, it might be something that keeps DS3 pvp alive for a good while.

If you don't get into the cage and become Peeve's shade then you have no business crying when the gank squads run all over you as an invader.
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>>155225423
>Souls crashing on PC
KEEEEEEEEEEK BEING ADDED TO THE IMAGE
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>>155201745
https://youtu.be/-14qpQ546G0

SO COOL
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>>155226141
SO THE GRANDSON CARRIES A CAGE
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Oh, duel charms block ashen estus too, as if casters werent gimped enough already
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>>155226198
because crashes never happen on console luh-mao rite guise :^))) pay attention to me :^))))))
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>>155225602
yes. I bought it
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Once-in-a-while reminder to join the madmen
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>>155203395
I get upset to anon, like cmon same sides..im not here to kill you..
>>155203432
epic unicorn helmet xD
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>>155225423
Verify integrity of game cache
Restart PC?
Tried running the .exe as administrator?
Do you get a specific error message or just the good old "stopped working"?
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>>155224675
Can you show Smoughs canon appearance from the comic?
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>>155222036
SL? Thats a lot of hp/fp/stamina for a pyro
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>>155226459
lmao are you playing a betrayal bloodshade
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>>155200052
why were people criticizing it? the concept seemed fun to me.
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>>155226346
do not respond to it unless we need the bumps. we're on page 2 now
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>use dried finger
>pop seed
>hide in plain sight and watch aldrichcucks waste their time

ppl in this game have poor eyesight, one came within inches of me and did not see me
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>>155224675
>>155226512
We do not mention that abomination in this household
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>>155226264
HE ONLY EVER HAS HIS CAGE
so come in to the cage and become Peeve's shade
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Im making a low level summonbro, what SL do you guys recommend to reach as many bosses as possible?
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>>155226549
yes

they are starting to recognize me
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>>155226614
there's statue at the grand archives bonfire where you can easily curl up next to almost into the wall while using greyish armour/clothing
Did a fingered WoB seed thing there twice, 3 hours each while i went out to eat, was still in place afterwards both times
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>>155202137
>exclusively invading after Pontiff
>not also invading at the other popular gank spot, Farron Woods
For what purpose?
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>>155226614
Keep absolutely still. Their vision is based on movement.
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>>155226346
UMAD
KKK
KeKysKiddo
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>>155226780
You should have copied someone's name
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>>155226614
tfw just watching streams on my 2nd monitor with no plan to focus on the main screen til i see action in plain sight
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>>155226491
did all of those. no specific error message. just hangs on a black screen then stops responding. going to try booting to win 7 then running it.
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>>155226820
>>155226865
already got 90k souls from them, and now they are chasing Harry Potter invader that has that ring that turns you into a host thinking its me
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>>155226865
>>155227092
woah u guys are geniuses i gotta try this
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>>155226459
You are doing exactly what the covenant wants you to do. Keep up the good work. They can't complain either, since you are being fucking purple in their faces.
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>>155226553
I think the reasons to critize the thing are kinda flimsy like "it's edgy!" Or "you might be ganking solo hosts abloobloo", but it kinda felt like he was being a little too defensive over dumb complaints he could easily just brush off. It's not a holy mission, it's a video game. Or maybe I'm just new to Peeve and unable to recognize when he's just joking. All the props to the guy for creating some funny roleplay stuff to go along with it as well.
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>>155226543
130
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>>155226543
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would keep spamming the same attack after seeing the enemy doesn't fall for it
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>>155227092
Oh god the untrue rings
>Phantoming for random
>Invaded
>'Hey' him and put on dark ring
>He gets it and switches to white ring
>Host stands before the red, i sprint back to bonfire
>Dumbass red falls for it
>While he chases me around Irythill, the host makes his way to Pontiff and crosses the fog
i can only imagine his face at that point
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>>155227512
it's not like 2kat users can do anything else, really
i'm playing mainly with casters or hyperarmor weapons and virtually never had a single problem with them
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>>155227604
This is why every time I invade I make sure to read the name that comes up.
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>>155227740
im memeing, my man. but no one memes with me
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>>155227871
>memeing
can't wait for hiroshima to filter the word "meme" because it's really getting out of hand
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>>155228015
>implying the memesters wouldn't make new memes around the fact they couldn't say meme thereby making even more annoying meme words
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>>155228015
>being THIS unappreciative of baneposting
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>>155226553#
I does sound fun for a weekly event to have 3v3, but:
But people are starting to gank normal Pve players. heck, most dsg can't tell apart a dedicated gank from co-op.
Peeve doesn't understand how a FC works or even summons:
https://twitter.com/Peeverson/status/777726048305754112
https://twitter.com/Peeverson/status/777712042870386688
and of course the edgy fashion.
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> So dark souls brought me into the wonderful world of pvp
> dark souls 2 pvp sucked
> bloodborne pvp was a blast but did lose its appeal after a while

How does dark souls 3 pvp hold up?
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>>155228382
People having FCs without killing Aldrich are annoying as fuck though. Do they think I want to fight the ones they summon with my hp penalty? I keep invading them, so they can just fuck off.
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>>155228592
Rev up those straightswords.
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>>155228592
>did lose its appeal after a while
It's still alive.
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>>155228592
Normal invasions/team battles(the way pvp is meant to be played) are really fun. Lots of stuff viable then. I recommend staying below 100 though.
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>check twitch first time in 1000 years
>a fucking onlyafro is streaming as well
this is only going to become worse the closer we are to DLC
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Whenever someone fails a parry, and I kill them, I always spam parry above their dead body, just to rub it in.
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>>155228747
Oh fuck I almost missed that thanks
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>>155228747
sweet
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>>155228592
ds3 pvp is a des+ds1 but without glitches and fairly limited ability to twink
mostly shines in ng random invasions if you ask me, nowhere nearly as bad as a shitfest of a second game
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>>155228725
I just felt there wernt enough viable builds to keep me coming back
If people are still enjoying it enough to keep it going thats great, maybe ill come back after a break
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>>155228592
straight swords with the range of washing poles that hit you regardless of where you're standing as an intentional feature of the game
bleed memelords fishing for 1300 damage hyper armor combos
gold tracer with the range of ultra greatswords and the damage of a greatsword
worst ultra weapons in the series
unpunishable estus, everyone can estus, bloodborne healing but worse
can't invade solo hosts unless they're using dried finger, always matched with ganks
16 stamina rolls that make you completely invincible if you spam them
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>>155228625
You can have a FC without being embered, but this info needs to reach eceleb for people to accept it.
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>>155228728
This, a thousands time this.
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>>155228905
DS3 has less builds then.
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>>155228625
If I was on PC I'd kill their Aldrich to make those fuckers stop wasting everyone's time.
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What build are you gonna use for your first journey through the DLC, /dsg/?

I'm still undecided between luckfag or spellfag.
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>>155228747
>ENB is back to streaming Souls and enjoying DS3 again
Feels good man
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>>155229590
Inb4 bosses get infinite magic resist
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>>155228382
>"Why solo in an area designed for ganks?"
And here i thought invaders loved solo hosts to 1v1 no rules wild-ride-through-the-level kind of deal
>Ganks are bad, lets organize
>oh look at this host complaining he's getting ganked by us, what an idiot
Is irony lost on this man?
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>>155229609
>bloodshades or whatever the fuck they are called
>old streamers coming back
>more activity in random locations than i remember since the beginning of summer
DLC hype is starting NOW.
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>>155229590
WORLD OF STR
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>>155229590
first will be a generic quality
second is an sl130 pyro
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>>155229742
instant invasions on all my characters

both ganks and normal hosts. good times.
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You know what actually good in DLC? We will get new main PVP arena and it looks like klin according to screenshots. Thanks god. I really hate post Pontiff
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>>155229590
Strength build no doubt, always has and will be my favorite build. Also cautious they might give the dlc bosses insanely high elemental resistance because "lmao difficulty!".
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>>155229684
He shouldn't be justifying it in the first place since organizing to kill solo players or ganks is all the same as long as you don't blatantly cheat. I don't care if Peeve's edgelords are invading and killing solo hosts because that's just the name of the game.
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>>155229889
i fucking hope we will get free for all
if there's FFA i see wasting 1000 hours on that place alone because group combat in ds3 is GODLY
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>>155229742

Still not feeling it desu.
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>>155229590
My halberd using Temple Knight probably.
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>>155229684
Actually, they were initially supposed to be of such a high SL, they'd not invade anyone on Yoel meta and thus, no FCs. Of course, most people don't want to go to a SL where you only find ganks because the truth they don't want to admit is that they do not want to fight those ganks.
The sad thing is, instead of shaming this attitude, he's encouraging it.
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>>155230025
>group combat in ds3 is GODLY

When you're part of the group.
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>>155229590
I don't even remember, but I will use my first character with horrible stats and no optimization. Greataxe and crossbow I think.
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>>155228592
ds3 pvp is fucking trash and nobody ever learn. Not like there's anything to learn in the first place but 99% of the players are dogshit. Not to mention the lack of mechanics or depth, so it's basically a R1 fest.

Hot Garbage/10.
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>>155229590
Probably gonna go through with my first character.

Or not; going through the DLC the first time on NG++ would probably be hell. Eh, but it could be fun too so I dunno.
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>>155230145
shut up nerd, not everyone wants to grind to ng+99 god get a life and grind a real game lmao
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>>155230197
When everyone can damage each other.
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>>155230196
>Watch YTers deal with Ganks at 155 solo
>Bloodshades merely pretending
Dang son
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>>155230197
Did you even read his whole post and know what FFA means or are you just salty you got ganked?
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>>155230197
Group can also be allied mobs.
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>>155229590
66str ng++
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>>155230382
>you throw out tons of r1s
>he wiffs a SINGLE parry
>spam parries as he dies
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>this thing is still not considered to be a top tier weapon and the best buff carrier in the entire game
Why?
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>>155230404

FFA is the concept. Practically there's no such thing. People always group when they share the same enemy or when they see an easy target.
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>>155230628
because raw ass exists
sure, it's fast, but straightswords have insane range for rollcatching and spacing

maybe if it had quickstep
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das3 tech protip:

despite what the stat screen damage type says, spear R1s do standard damage unless you hit them with the sweet spot right at the tip

you can verify by poking a thrust weak enemy (farron keep slugs) with both the shaft and the tip and then repeat against thrust resistant enemy (skeletons) and see the inverse for how much damage you do. All other attacks (R2, poke from behind shield, running attack, etc.) seem to do thrust damage 100% of the time. In fact, a fully charged R2 will always do less damage than a close R1 against a skeleton.

Just something to consider if you are using a spear + leo ring
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>>155218638
>>155218784
>>155218929
im 12 and what is this
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>>155230859
does lucerne have a sweetspot/ not always deal thrust?
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>>155230859
sweetspots in ds3 are pretty interesting
for example tinder gets additional fire damage if you hit with a fiery thing on a tip, adding roughly 100 more ar to its damage
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>>155230637
>he's never saved a guy in a FFA only to betray him after earning his trust
>or spam AoEs to make everyone target you then drive them into each other's attacks

FFAs are great, people don't really group unless there's a free retard not watching his back
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>>155230196
>The sad thing is, instead of shaming this attitude, he's encouraging it.
Which attitude? The attitude of those who would rather not fight ganks? If that's the case you're certainly not correct: he's literally dedicating time towards doing nothing other than just that.

Even in a 3v3, the host has an enormous advantage and everything ultimately rests upon their own decisions rather than anyone else's. There's zero sensation of winning in 3's invasions; you're just watching the host kill themselves at best.

>>155230025
It's meme tier. FFA is only seen as balanced because people worry about the meta less in it due to said meme status. Realistically speaking if everyone in a FFA were playing to win, being as passively as possible would make even more sense than it already does in 1v1. It's the same phenomena you see in DS2's PvP. The game is seen as less competitive, thus there's less incentive to use the meta, thus people perceive there to be a wider range of useful weapons. It's fun because it increases people's willingness to goof off; there's nothing about the design itself that's special.
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>>155230794
>cuckstep
>being useful to anything except getting through Farron Swamp quicker
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>>155231341
the dubstep is one of the best abilities in the game and absolutely hilarious against UGS users
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>>155230859
I agree to a certain point, but:
>In fact, a fully charged R2 will always do less damage than a close R1 against a skeleton.
what spears did you test?
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>>155231341
>cuckposter has a shit opinion
like clockwork
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>>155231453
It's not very good.
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>>155229590
>spellfag
>spamming things from a distance
L M A O
No but seriously, I've never understood the appeal. It just seems awful
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Is the Crown trilogy worth playing? I actually really liked 2, but found it worse then 1 (because of the weak level design). Are they worth playing though? (Heard there included with SOTF)
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>>155231195
What? He's doing nothing to tell the covenant members to go gank hunting and you can see most of them prefer to treat this as a club of friends and allies than a team to specifically go gank hunt.
The SL "is" 140 but I checked most of thise who invaded me and they're 130-135 at best. People of the covenant don't exactly want to go gank spank.

Sidenote, but 3 is the only game where I feel that, after winning an invasion, I'm definetly a better player than the host. That was never present in the other games.
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>>155231859
yes the dlc is worth playing, and is included in sotfs
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>>155231859
The dlc blows the vanilla game out of the water
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>>155231558

Most of them. I did spear, lothric knight long spear, pike, arstor's, partizan and saint's bident and then I just assumed they were all the same
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>>155232282
I assume this matters less for DSS and GFS?
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>>155231859

It's more of DaS2 and more polished.
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>>155231940
>>155231958
Cool sauce. Which one is the best out of the three? (Want to play worst from the best) I'll just assume the DLC is the end game.
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Let's talk about level design, /dsg/

What in your opinion is generally a recipe for a good level?
Mine is as follows :
>based around a single bonfire
>physical shortcuts
>vertical design with areas overlaying each other
>combat takes place in areas with a lot of elevation differences and challenging combat environments which places emphasis on choosing your weapons
>area feels like it was a 'real' place once.
I.e Dark Souls 2 Wolfenstein 3d treasure rooms pls go.
>the levels loop into themselves
>going through the level you can see where you came from and with careful observation can see where you're going next and see ambushes waiting for you, that kind of a thing.
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>>155222036
>3 million souls
Fuck I want to make another build but I'm not grinding another 120 - 140 fucking levels
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>>155232282

replying to myself

I only tested the standard/thrust sweet spot with a bunch of spears on slugs, it's entirely possible that if one of the spears has a bigger R2 multiplier or something it could hit harder on skeletons

The point I'm trying to make is that every single move in a spear's moveset does thrust except for R1s that hit with the shaft of the spear (with the exception of obvious non-thrust attacks like partizan R2s)
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>>155232476
>grinding
it's just a natural progression through multiple ngs anon
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>>155232401
I can't really say what's the "worst" since it depends on what you prefer but Sunken King is the most puzzle based, Brume Tower the second and Ivory King most straightforward. I'd say Ivory King is the one you want to do first and remember that Frigid Outskirts is optional.
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>>155232423
Catherdral of the Deep. So good.
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>>155230963
Dunno about the damage types but it certainly has a sweetspot
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>>155222036
The cancer is real in this webm.
>firesurge spam
>over 120
>reactive
>RHH
>clapping when he heals even though you have 4 more heals than him at best
>I was at the edge of my desk waiting for you to unzip your carthus
>>
Co-op Dancer with me /dsg/. PC
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>>155232530
yeah, I was afraid you were using R2s that do standart dmg. going to check rolling r1 and jump attacks.
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>>155232476
It doesn't take that long.
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>>155232789
SL? NG?
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>>155232840
Passworded phantoms get scaled down
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>>155232840
>>155232789

SL 60. Password is dsg.
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>>155232834
Rolling is standard for 1 h and slash for 2 h, I think. At least I think so from the animations
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how do I beat artorias with a sl1

>can't even stagger him out of his anime charge-up
>>
tfw have a crush on afro
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>>155232982
I like the axe. Club is overrated for SL1
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>>155232768
oh sorry that i refuse to blindly jump on his onigiri princess
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>>155232768
Not playing full reactive versus 2 kats is stupid as fuck though. Blame the almost zero recovery on the jump
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>>155232768
>pyro
>not over 120
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>>155196980
But shes ugly
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>>155232768
2kat ha shitter btfo
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>>155232834

I gave the dragonslayer swordspear a test and the one handed R1s have the standard/thrust damage sweet spot split (sweet spot hits = more damage vs slugs, less damage vs skeletons). The two handed R1s don't have the same quirk, probably because they are overhand swings and not thrusts.

I don't have a GFS to test with but if the moveset has R1 pokes I'd be surprised if it didn't behave the same
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Thanks for the help.
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>>155222036
and yet you fail to land a single vestiges
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>>155233229
>i'm sorry I have cancer
ok
>>155233304
Nice "Meta" level you guys got there with arbitrary overleveled shitters in and out.
>>155233396
I'm more of a 66str guy myself but I would get btfo by that playstyle regardless.
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>>155233457
no problemo
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>>155233481
I'm sorry, do you think the host was tagging a RSS? Meta levels are only for retards who want to do fair 1v1s.
You pick your SL based on where you get the activity that pleases you, not on where some players decide to enforce their rules.
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>>155233481
>overleveled shitters
>playing physical build
50SL is real meta for any physical build. You don't need 66STR or you're just bad
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>>155233649
Nice excuse to overlevel just a bit to give me an edge over the "retards who want to do fair 1v1's" so you can have a chance, host. Don't ever let go of those crutches.
>>
>butcher knife os one of two S scaling str weapons
>even on a 66str build it's only 10AR ahead of the rest
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>>155233747
>overlevel
66str is overlevel
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>>155233838
>not wanting 99 strength
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>>155233806
base damage affects scaling. it could have SSS scaling and everything else have E, it will still have shit ar if it has shit base
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>>155233889
CRUTCHES REEEE
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>>155232942
From the dmg, rollR1 is 100% not thrust either 1h or 2h.
even with unlimited iframes this is pretty hard to get the counter dmg boost and test
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>>155232768
>>155233481
disregard everything im saying i suck huge cocks
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>>155233923
my question is WHY did they make the base so low that it doesn't even shine at 99str?
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>>155233838
>66str is overlevel
lmao
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>>155234024
Because Miyazaki hates everything that isn't a quality weapon.
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>>155233747
>he wants everyone to play at a level some faggots decided to settle on for the sake of it

Must be why you also think 66 str could ever be usable against non retards when I could kill you with a crossbow and fire surge taking no damage. The only rule in DaS you should care about are the numbers on your matchmaking if you don't partake in pontiff fights, which I don't. I have charcters set in the ideal places to invade or be invaded by the levels of most activity and couldn't give a fuck what others decide to, as long as the REO and fingers work when I use them
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>>155234091
>greatclub with 25end and not even fap
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>>155234181
Why don't you level up to 802 then? Just CE your souls since you don't care about meta.

>>155234228
>level 68
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>>155234228
Can swing three times and kill anyone with 66 str club on that level.
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>>155232684
ABSOLUTELY NOT
>SUNKEN KING
>IRON KING
>IVORY KING
in the original order pl0x
>>
>>155234228
He can always swap out HR.
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>>155232692
Cathedral of the Deep and Grand Archives are my favorite levels in DS3 but I'd like to like to hear about the elements what make levels good for people.
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>>155234091
>68SL
Overleveled shitter. You don't even need 27vig. 15 is enough with life ring and favor
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>>155234265
>Why don't you level up to 802 then?
There is no peopel at the lelves, autismo. 120SL+ is for gravelording. Even 140SL are pretty balanced
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>>155234625
>he needs hp rings
Just don't get hit, idiot.
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>>155234024
it has sharpen and regens 2 HP per hit
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>>155202954
>not listening to forces
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>>155234919
>he says, as he clutches to his health bar bigger than his FP and end

Casual
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>>155234890
There actually is a ton of people at 802. You'd be surprised.
>tfw invading archdragon peak at 802.
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>>155234625
why even level vig at all?
>>
Can someone help me transfer some items on pc?
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>>155234265
Didn't you read what I said? I go to the levels with the best spots for activity. 130 is better than 120 for that purpose as a late game level, can be invaded by superhumans and invade metafags
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>>155235004
IT'S A FRIEND'S SCREENSHOT OK
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>>155235189
>give me an edge over metafags
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>doing a dried finger playthrough through the dungeon
>invaded by the obviously cheating degenerate with 99 in all stats so i can barely damage him and 1.1 speedhack
>fuck it, decide to run to the yhorm through the entire fucking dungeon
>somehow barely make it out alive with that skilless piece of shit being unable to kill me even with ng+7 mobs on his side
>he gets rid of himself by falling like a moron he is
shiiieeet
should i just start carrying a 1hko weapon around by making some simple AoB script modifying the scaling and base damage to retarded values? kinda scared that From will somehow detect it though i always carried similar thing in ds2
>>
>>155235134
High Wall, pass dsg, put red sign by fire
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>>155235357
thanks!
>>
>>155235256
If you devolve to the level of cheaters you're no better. Just keep backing up those savegames.
>>
>>155235252
I'm sorry you actually let others dictate where to play at instead of picking what gives you the highest amount of players.
If you're so attached to the meta you should give up your silly 66 str and actually run something good like CCS.
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>>155235486
Unlike you I don't need crutches to win against invaders that are already penalized by the game's system and brag about being a passive shitter on an anonymous image board.
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>tfw pyro vs TCK
How the fuck do I beat this guy?
I keep getting one-shot everytime I hear OCELOOOOTTE
>>
>>155235256
yeah From will detect that.
>"convert" him into a white phantom
>Black crystal
>>
>>155235419
You dropped an upgrade material or something because I don't see the thing you were pointing at
>>
>>155235082
Candle nerf was unnecessary
>>
>>155235612
Cheese him in the branches.
>>
>>155235719
Hey um you need to put your sign down so I can summon you on my alt
>>
>>155235653
a simple black crystal status ain't working in ds3?
>>
>>155235429
cursed sword

fuck'em
>>
>>155235612
do your best tumbleweed impression
>>
>>155235802
Aight
>>
They should add a ring like slumbering but for weapons and spells.
>>
>>155235719
I FORGOT THE RINGS>>155235873
>>
Dancer's a good weapon for Pyro build?
>>
>>155235753
that fucking delay

please never invade me
>>
>>155235876
Does slumbering muffles that annoying tears of denial sound?
>>
>>155235931
wew
>>
>>155235824
Is it possible to make a sword that curses yourself if you use it?
>>
>>155235753
>skeleton just gets up and smashes the pot in frustration
good work, skeleton!
>>
>>155235587
>thinking I do it for the advantage

I keep telling you it gives me the most players, I lose absolutely nothing going to that level instead of giving in to the community's demands which affect nothing but cancerous duels
>>
>>155235876
Call it the Whispering Dragon Ring or something. Sounds like a neat idea.
>>
>>155236003
what are you planning anon
>>
>>155235753
>Candle nerf was unnecessary
Pretty much, at least we have the left hand buff

>>155235817
what do you mean?
>>
>>155235957
How do you know it was him that was lagging?
>>
>>155236003
it was in ds1 and it forced you into an endless cycle of cursing and reload screens
not sure about ds3, in fact not sure that instacursing is still possible in ds3
>>
>>155235998
put ur sign down
>>
>>155236053
Yeah you go 10 levels over the average pvp level to gimp yourself, clearly. If you wanted most players you would stay at 100.
>>
>>155235967
No idea, I don't use that spell. I just want to do neat tricks with ranged stuff and surprise WAs. Imagine walking in a corner only to have Morne's WA happen out of nowhere
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>>155236101
I assume it's him since he's russian or something
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looks like bloodshades will be a good source of ears at least
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>>155235957
Same for you. I don't think EU players like fighting agaisnt US or god why AU
>>
>>155234625
What armor is that?
>>
>>155236131
Your sword's on the ground dog, can you not see it?
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>>155236093
i want to roleplay as a cursed swordsman
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>his vitality is over 20
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>>155236264
SL? Wait time?
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>>155233362
take that back RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>
>>155236302
oh no I cant see the sword I forgot about that! I was thinking about the er lighting pine
>>
>>155236343
130
1 hour ago
>>
>>155236164
Now, I didn't say any of that at all. I have characters in other SL ranges, but for late game, 130 is far more active than 120, I'm just stating it and that if you go to that range you get more invasions and summons in general.
>>
>>155236107
it is, i got cursed by some faggot at pontiff's yesterday
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>>155236392
You can only see dropped weapons the same upgrade as you've made yourself so you gotta go upgrade something to see it
I didn't get any resins
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>>155236227
>russian meme
We have here quality 100mb/s for $7. Most laggy people in EU for me are France and UK. Most of time.
>>
>>155236479
Oh ok i'll come back for the ccs
ss
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>>155236264
>bloodshade
>not even a bleed build
>>
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>>155236341
you take that back right now
>>
>Just finish making up my character in character creation
>DarkSoulsIII.exe has crashed
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I DIDNT SAVE IT
>>
>>155236501
Remember that ping is a thing and what you're transmitting are small packages of data. A stable connection is more important than a high speed connection.
>>
>>155236227
russian internet is extremely cheap and fast, it's you burgerlanders who is laggy as fuck
>>
>>155236283
I'm norwegian

how is your latency during prime euro time? It was always hell playing cs against russians

>>155236501
yeah sorry just past experiences, maybe it's not so bad these days
>>
>>155236543
I don't see anything, maybe you can't trade resins
>>
>>155236341
>Not wanting to do full Smough cosplay whilst dual wielding Smough hammers with four Smough hammers on your hot bar
Stay pleb
>>
>>155236341
>>155236578
I MEANT VIGOR

SORRY
>>
>>155236752
d-drop my sword
>>
>>155236861
It's still in your other guy's world
>>
>>155236501
This,
in the EU UK really takes the 1st place
of course overall it's always South America
>>
>>155236782
It's always confused me why they didn't just keep the health stat named vitality and make the equipment load stat vigor for consistency to 1
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>>155236674
>how is your latency during prime euro time
not him, but my euro hours are pretty smooth as far as souls connectivity goes
if someone is lagging it's almost 100% either australian or jap
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>>155236782
>Not wanting to be able to tank a direct hit from a +10 Smough hammer wielded by a Smough cosplayer with 99 strength square in the face whilst nude
Stay pleb
>>
>>155237041
Simple. They enjoy making bad decisions.
>>
>>155237041
Maybe bad translation
>>
>>155225887
I get invasions at SL 26 at the first settlement bonfire

A lot of people like goofing around the crucifixion woods, but people of widely varying SL's pass through there, as the host may or may not have beaten certain bosses on either end of the fork. Pre-abyss watchers at least guarantees that NG hosts will only have 7 flasks tops, with is the max an invader can have.
>>
New
>>155237306
>>155237306
>>155237306
>>
I fucked up

the shade got me
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>>155237362
they ganked afro too

we need to fight back
>>
>>155203626
>people still use greathammers without backup weapons
its like they don't even understand that their entire weaponclass is hard countered by fucking throwing knives
>>
>>155237041
Is very confuse on me :-(
>>155237157
R O L L
O
L
L
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>>155235256
>Not doing the dungeon skip
Silvercat ring isn't hard to get and neither is spook/tears.
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>>155236283
this webm is a prime example of why das3 pvp is so shit
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>>155236283
>that text
Cyka
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