/domg/ - Dominions General

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>Do bully Weebs

First for anime is shit.

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Reminder that Air is the best path of magic

I hate this op, but I appreciated that a new thread was made, at least.

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Ghost removal is in progress and is going as expected. mind you he had about 35+ PD probably closer to 40

>>154844603
Please, remove Atlantis afterwards. He took my 2 UW provinces. And I spent MONEY on those UW mercs.

>>154839338
How about in 6 hours?

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Threadly reminder that Asphodel needs to be scarier.

>>154844747
i dont like you because you delayed my meming of Thed by 2 turns by jacking my mercs in the first place but give me 1 gem and 69 gold and ill consider removing atlantis

>>154846117
I'd gladly give a qt mermaid 69

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>>154845945
dunno, they seem to be plenty scary

Ok, pythium. I was impressed by the sage province, but you also have a mirror palace for a2s2 sorceresses and sorcerers of the sands? Any garnet amazons or conjurer's circles you wanna come clean on?

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What are some good books to read while waiting for the next Dominions turn?

I heard this series is pretty good

>>154846902
The Bible.

>>154846964
Now that we've gotten one of the meme answers out of the way, all we need now is for someone to say "the manual" and we can start making real suggestions

>>154846902
Thus spoke Zarathustra

>>154843637
/domg/ has great memes

I'm not samefag

>>154846902
Malazan is great, yeah.

>>154846902
I can def rec Malazan (which actually contributed some inspiration to the game), and if you like that read Black Company

>>154846117
Sure thing senpai.

>>154846902

Wheel of Time

>>154847846
If you step back and look at it, Malazan basically reads exactly like a game of Dominions from the perspective of key mages and commanders.

>>154846902

I definitely recommend the Mistborn trilogy. Imagine a fantasy setting where the evil overlord won, and runs his empire, oppressing everyone.

Then you take a crew of magically-talented thieves that plan to pull the biggest heist in history on him.

>>154848303
*requires extreme patience to get past the middle part of the series and anything not focusing on the male characters

>>154848921
Would he 'get' he Throne of Irony?

>>154848921
These guys sound like the necronimicon of comedy. I feel incomplete now knowing that I'll never witness one of them doing stand up.

>>154848529
Well, sorta, but very close to it

>>154848921
I love it when mod creators imitate Illwinter's writing style in their unit descriptions.

>>154848529
>>154849095
It definitely does if the meta was different and some pretenders couldn't be fucked to have a nation. And accession is a kinda nearly unreachable goal for everyone so nobody is really trying to actively grab all the thronees

If marignon stales after bitching about people not taking their turns just 4 days ago, I'm going to die laughing.

>>154848824
The women are kinda shit. Best characters are Perrin and Mat

>>154849963
Maybe he died. Please do not make fun of dead people.

>>154850219
Let's have a moment of silence for the ded threads

>>154850032
No, they're shit too. Mats "military genius" is literally
>Crossbows

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>>154851429

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>>154845945

>>154848529

Was based on the author's GURPS campaign, if memory serves.

But yeah, it's pretty damn Dominions.

>>154848824

I gave up about book six, if memory serves.

The plot progression is logarithmic. Less happens every book. The first couple are great though, for definite.

>>154849963
I sent him 20 turn resends, just in case he didn't see the turn like that other guy who staled.

So I'll be in chat all day so the admins can get my email, also Fistful Admin I think we messed up somewhere along the way because I'm not getting turn resends.

>>154851621
It was a rules-lite story campaign between him and Esselmont, who also wrote some books in the same setting (and, honestly, which should be read alongside the main series in publication order to get the most out of it since otherwise they spoiler each other)

>>154851824
Who are you on Steam?

>>154852453

Malakal

>>154852453

Lambert

>>154852682
Serious or meme?

>>154852682
t. Malakal

>>154851756
Nobody in kichikuo has staled. He was resending to people before we even hit the 12 hour warning.

>>154852818
Lambert's TC

>>154849552
So
>Gods don't usually have nations
>Gods aren't trying to ascend or, generally speaking, kill o

>>154852882

There was a giant argument over whether he was punishing them for staling or stalling.

It was kinda hilarious.

When you're going to play a new nation for the first time, what kind of research do you do beforehand? Do you read all of their unit descriptions + stats or look up a rewritten guide? Do you decide what paths you're going to research before you start the game? What determines how high you make your pretender's paths?

>>154853524

Take a look at them in the inspector. Make a plan.

Run a couple expansion tests. If those are good enough to hit twelve provinces and a fort under construction by Year 2, it's good. Otherwise adjust the plan.

>>154852972
Made more so by the fact he was last for the previous turn, didn't double, and is about to be last again. He's literally doing the thing he was bitching about earlier this week.

>>154853997
>If those are good enough to hit twelve provinces and a fort under construction by Year 2, it's good
Not in an expansion test, no. Absolute minimum for a test where you won't be constrained by other players is 15.

>>154853524
I look at the inspector, look up the units in game to know what I start with, what I want to recruit and how expansion can go. I aim for 12-15 provinces on the first year plus a fort started in the summer of the first year, maybe two if I swim in gold. Depending on the nation I go for a bless, or paths to complement my mages with booster forging. Or just a plain scale build, but it depends, really. I basically know what my research is gonna be but it's subject to changes in game if I think of something else that could be better. I used to look at guides, but I don't anymore and try to come up with my own pretenders and strategies, even it if fails.

>>154855156
>>154853997

Optionally, ask about your strategy in thread, and then relentlessly samefag in order to put it down and call it stupid bullshit that will never work and will make your nation weaksauce and a total non-issue to counter.

Then diplomonster your way into owning multiple capitals while still being generally seen as a non-threat.

>>154855398
This assumes that everyone is too retarded to recognize a good strategy despite your false flagging. If this is true, they're shit anyway, and you didn't need to do it to win.

>>154854106
What an irony, isn't it? Now you know how much i suffered.

t. not marignon

>>154853524
I have a solid idea about general capabilities of almost all nations at this point so unless it's a new nation like Ys that I haven't played as or fought against, I start with the general idea about how I personally think they should be played. However, input from people who have played a nation already is always valuable so I'll look if there's any guides by reputable players and I'll ask around for recommendations.

If I wasn't decided from the start, at this point I should have picked the general game plan I want to employ (like monster scales vs imprisoned bless chassis). Then it's a matter of practising expansion (I typically use a map filled with highest difficulty AIs to better simulate the constraints faced in multiplayer) and in my strategic thinking powerful early game (not necessarily a rush, but the economy to power up research and have an option to rush) is crucial so my standards tend to be much higher than the 12 provinces during the first year. If I can't make it work, I'll take better scales or change the bless, if I still can't make it work, I'll go back to the drawing board because in my view the best midgame is good expansion.

When I have found an expansion strategy that works to my level of expectations, it's time to distribute the design points that weren't a necessity in achieving this early game success. Sometimes it's easy but sometimes I'll think very carefully about reliable options to bootstrap into some key endgame spells or ability to cast certain rituals with the pretender. Generally speaking I value reliability: for example, since EA Caelum doesn't have national astral mages to sitesearch, I place much lower value in ability to cast national astral summons than many other players would. Then it's again time to practise expansion tactics and get a general idea about the expected research timings, but that's the extent of what you can do in SP.

Generally speaking it's 1-5 hours depending on nation.

>>154846902
Stormlight Archives
It's basically when an enemy army that are stronger than humans goes up against kitted out thugs.

For the purposes of the turn order, does a province with a besieged fortress count as friendly territory or enemy territory?

>>154856846
To clarify, the fortress is friendly controlled and the besieging army is the enemy.

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>complains about skeletons
>doesn't go F9 bless with 10 Dom and rushes purgatory
why is /domg/ so shit

>>154857367
>smug22.png
How many smugs do you have, anon?

>>154851621
It's a sequel to the campaign. The original Smiley's Crew were the characters from the campaign, and the books explore what happens after Kellanved and Dancer hit epic levels and realising they aren't done yet.

Is the fort defense vs siege strength calculation done by adding the whole army's total unit strength together and then using the formula with the sum? Or do I use the formula for each individual unit's strength and THEN add them all together?

>>154857367
why is /you/ so weebshit

God I love memes.

>>154858652

Per unit.

>>154858652
Have fun making calculations. It's awful when you have a lot of different units types and the enemy too.

>>154851429
Never said they were good just the "best"

>>154858746
Weebs are the most powerful race in the world gaijin scum

>>154859320
You think that's bad? Roughly 75% of my units got hit by weaken, have another affliction that reduces strength, or both. And every damn one of them is diseased so I can't even use the select all units with afflictions key to separate them in a useful way.
I wish there was a way to select units based on more specific afflictions than just disease.

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>>154846902

Prince of Nothing/Aspect-Emperor (or The Second Apocalypse as a whole) is the best fantasy series I've ever read.

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Ermor begone!

>>154864612
Where do the Ermorians get their milk from?

Bandar, can I have a word? Because Ys has just changed hands, so want to clarify if you still want avenging against someone whom didn't kill you.

>>154852453
I'm not Malakal and I'm Trippical on steam.

>>154865660
fuck off steamshitter

>>154865660
Ah, Malakal's alternate account.

>>154865761
Sorry just trying to get these subs done I'm not really sorry.

>>154865806
If you get me meta ganked for this I swear to fucking god.

>>154868882
>I'm not really sorry.
Confirmed for being Malakal.

>modding
>accidentally fuck something up
>Asynja gets gas attack
>get massive boner

Why

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>>154871137
enjoy your new fetish

>>154871137
>fart fetish

End yourself.

>>154857367
Post your smug folder

>>154856846
The besieging army controls the province and movement into/through it

Can anyone give me a summod MA Abysia pretender design?

Newish player and I'm bored of just making erf sneks for the nations I'm too stupid to make pretenders for.

>>154872573
Wait an hour and I gotchu

In general, though, you want a blood mage for alternative midgame options, and you'll be using your warlocks for abysian crossbreeding to supplement your armies.

>>154871137
>play crusader kings
>character dies, young late teens son takes over
>widowed mother seduces her son
>pop massive boner

>>154872858
Thanks senpai

>>154872918
But you cant seduce your children or siblings in CK2
ive tried

>>154875113

You sound insufficiently Zoroastrian

>>154875113
Mods, son.

I get the most shameful, incestuous boners from CKII.

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why are necromancers so fun?

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>>154875639
Because it makes scrubs cry about it here.

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>>154849963
>>154851756
>>154852882
>>154852972
Was someone bitching in my name? Because I've said no such things, just got home from work so will be doing my turn soon.

>>154854106
bullshit, it was over 2 hours before I got the next turn and I was asleep by then.

Hey Hinnom, are you around? I'd like to talk in Steamchat if you are.

>>154878154
Actually, I'd like to talk to Fomoria too, maybe

>>154878668
GIT
ELFD

>>154878762
earlier in my life problems

losing 3 provinces and primary army in one turn to independent armies each consisting of like 30 gryphon riders, 40 amazon archers and multiple mages, which upon death triggered more events like demons

>>154878940
Hahahahahahahahahasdkjfahsdl

>>154878668
>>154878940
That'll teach you to play non-blood monkeys.

What's the regular going price for gems?

>>154880643
Anywhere from 10-100

>>154880643
20-35g per gem anything more is getting into pure kikery terretory

>>154881028
I've bought gems at 100 gold per gem before.

I'm sure Mictlan enjoyed the 15k gold boost.

>>154881028
I've bought for 50 pretty regularly

>>154881028
I'll buy your gems at 20 per :^)

>>154880643

it fucking depends.

Mostly on how much you need the gems vs how much they need the gems vs how much they need the gold.

I've gotten gems from an ally for 5 gold apiece, and i've also gotten gems for 75 gold apiece because they knew i fucking needed them.

>>154880643

Depends how desperate your ally is. Use your diplomancy.

Say he's a nation that has D1 mages, but that's it. He approaches you and wnats death gems, probably to kickstart his death economy with an empowerment, so he can make staffs, so he can find more sites. Price for death gems can be premium then, especially if you know he's not friends with anyone else that has death gems.

Another example is if a MA Agartha starts bothering you for earth gems, while he's at war with someone. Statues don't come cheap on the gems, and are incredibly powerful. Charge premium because you know he desperately needs them.

So this weekend, I'll be offline for about two days. I'll be online Friday and early Saturday morning, but I would like extensions for any turns that come in after that until late Sunday / Monday morning.

Depending on the game timer, I'd like a one-two day extension that weekend for -

GinnungagapREBIRTH
VirginDisciples
ScrubGenX
FistfulOfDeathGems

I'll be posting again / poking the GMs I know near when I leave on Saturday.

>>154883817
Nations?

>>154884283
R'lyeh, TC, Chimori, Pan

>>154878668
I was wondering how Helheim got that province, holy shit this was just not your game. Hey look on the bright side, the elves just inherited your Amazon problem.

once again checking to see i can chat with Fomoria or Jews

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hi
any pbem gaem recruitiang??

>>154888367
Are all you giants in the same corner?

>>154882438
In the first situation, trying to charge a premium is extremely unlikely to work.

He's just trying to expand his magic selection, nothing urgent. If you try to jew him he's likely to decline and just wait for his income from D1 sitesearching, or try another nation.

>>154890513

Depends on the nation, I was thinking the kind of meme nation that has death summons but no mages that can natively summon them. Often you'll want to expand your death economy by the time your pretender comes out who can probably summon them.

But yeah not premium, but you can certainly charge more than normal on that case.

>>154889895
Pretty much, It's Urraparand so Fomoria can pretty much sail anywhere.

>>154846902
Yes, this. Assuming you've got the time and inclination to read 20,000 pages of good good books.

>>154889347
Start one dogg. Hosting a game on llamaserver is super easy.

Hey, Burds.
Are you moving that army into 26? Just want to avoid collisions.

Also, Ice Giants, what's the status on 46? Are you just going to let that sit independent?

>>154892184
>>154889347
I would like to join in such a game, go ahead and make it, post it here.

>>154892983

Not moving in on that province no, so feel free.

>>154893864
Ah, thanks for the info. I just might take that province.

Anybody got decent construction and nature? We desperately need supply items to take on ermor. You don't even have to spend your troops. Donate to the cause or get burden of timed.

Ermorian Thred.

>>154894917
Why would you fight against Ermor?

Therodian Thred.

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post classic memes

How do I gear/script Magoth to be able to beat an arbitrarily large number of heavy infantry, skelly spammers, and an earth snake? Firestorm, maybe?

>>154898434
What other paths do you have?

>>154898593
For items? Pretty much everything, barring artifacts.

>>154898434
Vine shield for sure. A fire brand is usually used against skeletons, but you already have firestorm for that and you need something to deal with the snake. Eyecatcher would probably be best against an earth snake. Axe of Hate, Serpent Kryss, Lightning Spear, and Duskdagger are some other options, in order of preference.

Give him a skull of fire, that will let him firestorm.

He needs to recover from firestorm quickly, so reinvigoration is vital. Boots of the messenger and rainbow armor would be good choices. An amulet of resilience would be good too.

Give him an iron face, to mitigate poor protection from rainbow armor. Add a ring of regen so he regenerates any hits that get through.

I think that's full slots.

My scripting would probably be phoenix power -> phoenix pyre -> body ethereal -> fire shield -> fire storm. Set him to attack after script has ended.

>>154899581
Pretty sure that Firestorm sets him to max fatigue, right? I don't much see the point to phoenix pyre if he's going to be at 100 fatigue for like a dozen turns.

>>154899665
He'll recover below 100 fatigue in 7 turns after firestorm, and will be back to 0 in a further 10 turns.

Main reason I have it is safety when fighting the earth snake. Even if it gets a lucky hit your devil will just revive.

>>154899581
This post is pretty spot on, except for the phoenix pyre. The danger-zone for him will be after he falls asleep from firestorm, so phoenix pyre won't be too useful. Swap that out for astral shield and it's good. Also, ring of regen is essential, so you can't fit the amulet of resilience unfortunately. Ironface + Shield + Ethereal + Astral Shield should be enough to make him immune to heavy infantry unless the E-snake puts WoS on them. If he does, you kinda just need to hope that the skeletons get to you first and manage to avoid cooking long enough for some of the heavies to get caught on fire and for the devil to recover some fatigue. Even with WoS, you'll still have ethereal to mitigate damage, and vines and astral-shield to prevent him from being mobbed quite as hard

>>154899915
Earth snake isn't particularly likely to one shot him, and with regen he isn't too scared of the poison. I'd consider the added survival of reducing the chance of being chopped up by the buffed infantry to be more important.

>>154899934
>Also, ring of regen is essential, so you can't fit the amulet of resilience unfortunately.
Argh, forgot that.

I'd rather have resilience than regen, though. Getting out of the 200 fatigue deathtrap ASAP is vital, and firestorm should prevent you from getting caught in an extremely long fight.

Getting whittled down isn't an issue after you're back at safe fatigue, because of pyre.

>>154900012
I'm assuming skeletons are going to be out front, that's typically how skellyspammers do it. Astral shield would be pretty useless in that case as well.

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>>154846563
Xibalbans. Xibalbans never change.

>>154894917
who's we in this case? i have nature gems to spare

>>154899934
>>154900274
Also, if you really want the regen it'd be better to swap rainbow armor out for hydra skin, and keep the amulet of resilience.

That loses 3 reinvig rather than 5.

>>154900615
Good idea, actually

not gonna restart, you guys can rush Rahga if you're that cut.

Just start another game if it's that much of an issue, I wanted to go with an older proven version of summod but got begged to switch it to the newer one.

When lambo brought up the Elephant issue I left the mod unchanged out of spite.

(besides I just found two libraries)

>>154888367
Be there in two hours

>>154901107

You're fucking bad at your job, you know that, right?

Don't try to pawn it off as "WELP, OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD JUST MAKE BETTER GAMES LOL"

no. you are just awful and fuck you.

>>154901107

>>admin doesn't want to restart because great site
>>not ashamed of keeping with a broken mod
>>ignored player issues out of spite

t. badmin

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>>154878668

>>154901107
>>154901107
ur a dick

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>>154872573
Try something like this?
I would switch the W2 for something else though, like N2. I don't think I want to waste my gems on Ice devils.

>>154902996
Misf 1 (or even turmoil luck)

>>154902996

why D3? D2 gets you staves and up to D5 through summons.

why A2? go A4 or bust

why B5? B4 gets you boosters and everything you would ever want?

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>>154902735
And then Lambert was the admin since all of this time ago.

Image related but with the specific turn everybody realized Lambert had militia elephants.

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Here, take this. He can make skulls of flame and forge skull contracts with one booster.

>>154902996
>>154903182
You forgot to add why no F2 for soul contracts.

>>154903182
>why D3
Vamp lords before having to go through "summons"
>why A2
mostly flyboots, could see going A4 instead of that W2 but not sure why
>why B5
Yeah, I guess B4 is fine.

>>154901107
I don't want a restart, so I'm fine with it.

If it restarts, I've wasted my time and I spawn next to people that will be salty and want me dead.

>>154903329
>with one booster
GO HAM OR GO HOME

I don't think you have any boosters in construction 2.

>>154903540
>What is armor of souls?

>>154902518
>>154902735
>>154902969
start your own game, its really not that hard.

>>154903683
true, you are right.

>>154901107
Alright Alright we're doing the ultimate compromise, we'll play through this bugged game (I'm still feeling good enough about my position that I could take on the flying circus).

BUT I will start a new latus game tomorrow. Now the question I want to pose to all of you is, do we want to keep it LA or mix it up and try MA or EA for Latus? Regardless I'm starting a game (whether it takes off or not).

>>154904498
Not LA

>>154904498
EA. Because there's already a recruiting MA game on Oeridia.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GrandestMemery

>>154904498
What even are the starts in MA and EA?
Who would get the blood plane in MA?

>>154904535
Now bear in mind, Latus starts can get a little crowded with LA i.e. people sharing cap circles (ghosts and ulm) so with the Eras with more nations it might get extra crowded. Though I will concede that it tends to crowd the "Stronger" nations together which is actually a good thing because it can cripple their expansion. Minus the chance that Lanka can start in the blood plane unopposed in EA. I tried a test game on that and it was bananas.

>>154904679
But but demon apes on the blood plane scary.

>>154904703
On MA? I have not tested that, is someone could come back with that data it would be appreciated.

getting bred by poz loads ftw

>>154905338
I see you're getting invaded by Ermor.

>>154878940
I told you guys, told you to disable story events. Why didn't you listen?

What would be a good nation to pair with LA Abysia for a disciple game? Jomon, Utgard, Patala, Bogarus, Ragha, Caelum, Midgard, and C'tis have been claimed. I was initially thinking Ulm or Ragha, but Ragha was taken.

The map has a lot of water provinces and not many players have easy access, so that is one of the reasons why I was hesitating on Ulm. Maybe Xibalba?

>>154903182
>up to D5 through summons
Up to D4.

D5 needs liches, which require D5 to summon.

>>154903329
You should add 1 D for vamp lords, so your blood economy isn't entirely dependent on cap-only mages.

I don't think P3 is necessary on abysia, their troops are amazing for expansion and they start off with a good army.

Can I assassinate PD commanders to eliminate it or is that not a thing?

>>154907028
Not a thing.

>>154906746
Are you mad? Bats.

>>154907260
I can pick pretender or disciple. With Abysia, I imagine I cannot really get away with dropping production to sloth. Do you have any recommendation for scales/bless?

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>>154846902
Nick land Fanged noumena

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98Qdzsez5oHSkJUa1BTSzBJTzA/view?pref=2&pli=1

>>154907318
Please assist I am a baddie.

>>154904912
Preliminary results:
Nazca, Vanarus, Asphodel, Xibalba, and Ashdod.

>>154907318
You could easily get away with a duo B7F1 soul contract strat and you certainly want a B9 bless for your ozzies. Imprisoned B9/Fwhatever for abysia as the Pretender with a, say, Smoking Mirror disciple with paths giving him access to Rain of Jaguars/Soul Contracts with whatever paths you want.

>>154908352
>bats on the bloodplane even in MA

>wakeup.jpg

EA game plox.

>>154908472
>Frogs in the blood plane
>No forests for blood mages

>>154908415
Any specific reason for Abysia to be the pretender over me? Fountain of Blood with F2B9 Dom8O3P3H3G3Mis2M1 works for points.

>>154872858
>blood mage
>for MA Abysia
Don't listen to this man.

>>154908719
I require more info on this. What do you mean?

do items that protect against missiles protect against RoS? should they?

>>154909036
No.
No.

>>154909305
Does ethereal protect against RoS?

>>154909403
I assume it will, mistform does.

>>154909403
Yes.

>>154909403
Yes
Yeah, it does

>>154904498
There's a recent map upload called LatusFixed, which fixes the blood plane, fyi.

>>154909519
What did it fix? amount of slaves?
Because in my imo the right choice would be to delete the blood plane.

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>mfw my plan to fuck over a game by helping Ermor starts working
>mfw other players start falling into infighting

>>154909567
No longer a start, no longer any provinces without indies.

>>154908597
Still need help, I'm sorry I'm so bad at this game.

>>154909567
>in my in my opinion

>>154909636
Try checking in with /v/anheim or the dominions discord channel for theoretically more timely advice.

>>154909725
Thank you for the advice. <3

>>154909567
if it's MA the blood plane won't be as huge of a problem.

If it's EA I agree unless I'm playing bats

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>>154909657
Even in the risk of falling in a complex plot of baits, i will say this:
>falling for this

>>154908767
At least in vanilla, the only real strength of MA Abysia is the fact that it can recruit powerful blood mages - 1/4 of warlocks will be B4 (which is what >>154903182 actually suggests for some reason lol) so taking high blood is just pointless. You can already make all the boosters with no empowerment, and its cheap to empower your pretender to B1 and then slap those boosters on it to get whatever blood crosspath spells you want (bloodstones if earth, vamps if death etc.)
Hell, this pretender >>154902996 lacks earth which is the only thing I think is MANDATORY (other than order 3) on a MA Abysia pretender. Having earth 2 gives you access to earth boots and bloodstones. Having earth 4 gives you access to high level earth globals and rituals (and battlemagic - especially if on a tough chassis or lich queen) as well as reinvigoration on all your fireball throwers.

I've had success with an awake F5 solar serpent but I think the best option is something with earth and death and good scales, a dormant lichqueen w' earth is hard to beat for example. Play around of course and find something you like.

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>wake up
>no turns

What is this faggotry?

Game: GinnungagapREBIRTH
>Therodos Waiting for 2h file

Game: MAdden_2016_Hexxy_Edition
>Ermor Waiting for 2h file

Game: TheBiggestFattestMeme
>Atlantis Waiting for 2h file

You here, Ur?

So ... uh .... what now that bats are a non-factor??

>>154910621
>Ginu and Madden turn came in at similar interval

I'm unto you undead scum.

>>154911389
They still have about 200 bats near me that might decide to jump into random provinces or whoever they can reach but yeah, I don't think they have any mages left, they all died in Hinnom.

Removal is pretty much complete, good job gentlemen.

>what now though?

We go back to the usual cold war with random backstabbing.

>>154911735
>>154911389
Good job, guys. Bat removal is always good news.
What game is this one?

Do centaurs count as cavalry?

>>154912078
yes as far as i am aware

Do growth scales work for LA Abysia? Wiki says yes, description says no.

>>154912078

Nope. They don't have the Mounted tag (or the defence boost).

They do have much higher HP than most cavalry though.

>>154912312

It does nothing to supplies. The gold cost and population growth still happen, as far as I'm aware.

>>154912342
Thank you for the quick reply!

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Steven Universe mod when?

>>154912451
Nice bait.

>>154912451
>>154912857
What's wrong with steven universe? I like it.

What's the difference between bronze and iron weapons?

>>154912998
>>154912451
Could gem fusion be coded? some kind of xpshape+deserter+reincarnation mix?

>>154913225

The material they're made out of.

But seriously, Iron weapons are susceptible to Iron Bane, and also rust underwater.

>>154913225
bronze weapons generally have a lower statline but lack the "ferrous" quality that makes iron and steel weapons vulnerable to rust spells.

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Perhaps it's time to...retire.

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>>154914079
>Still has a head
>Wants to retire
Lazy privileged headists!

Easiest way to cure your pretender of afflictions if you don't have access to nature?

>>154914571
Blood Feast

>>154914571
>>154914598
Nor blood, should have pointed that out.

>>154914628

Be lucky enough to get an Adventurer with Healer through a random event.

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It was bait but I'm warming to the idea in a "make the basement dwellers mad" kind of a way

>>154914571
There's a nature spell to cure afflictions?

>>154914924

Gift of Health.

>>154914940
Thanks

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>11:51 - melgrib: ok i give up
>11:51 - melgrib: shit map
>11:51 - melgrib: agarthan holocaust will never be forgotten
>11:52 - melgrib left chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IdE2hffjis
How does that make you feel, /domg/?

>>154914896
Can I have a cutie peridot sprite? She is my favourite character even if she is a meme character.

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>>154904498
>More Latus

>>154915761
T. Labert

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>>154915518
bad taste

>>154916349
>liking pearl unironically
>Muh honour muh waifu is dead
Pearl should literally kill herself.

>Tfw happy because i had a great expansion but now i realized i'm gangbang material

It was fun while it lasted.

Looks like Beyortys is here to mop up the remnants of myself and bats,

hope you enjoy coastal cancer.

This thread is so dead that not even a turnspam shitstorm would revive it.
Sending 5 turn resends to every nation waiting for 2h in all of llamaserver's games.

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>>154917942
Please don't

>>154917942
Nice.

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LIVE

>>154911735

remember 6 million dead giants goyim.

you must punish the nazibats

>>154917128
That could be an issue. If it's true, Berytos will be at 5 capitals pretty soon (they're already on Ctis, and if they're near you, Machaka must be pretty crippled as well).

>>154906604
it is still fun

>>154919823
I'd make sure to bloodhunt their provinces but sadly I don't have any ex-bat provinces, only ex-greatest ally.

Could you niggers stop rushing those meme thrones for ONE second and wait for expansion to be over before claiming them?

>>154922362
>Not rushing the meme thrones
Slipping and falling lol

>>154922362
It's like you don't want good memes.

>>154920961
The hell is abysia doing?

Also, dear god, its only turn 15

>>154917128
>>154920961

What are you on about? I'm just a friendly merchant. Our trade blockade of C'tis is entirely legal.

Machaka and I are good friends. We will share in the bounties of the dark continent.

>>154919823
>nazibats

Batzis, surely.

>>154915802
Nah, I'm Latus3 Agartha. If we're rolling with ME in Latus4, I would like to call dibs on Ur.

>>154922362
<one of your mages thinks he GETS the throne of irony>

>>154904498
Ulm here, I'm voting LA. I am aware I'm probably the only one.

>>154904498
I'm voting EA.

>>154904498
EA pls

Machaka, berytos, abysia, anyone else, you around? I wanna buy fire gems.

>>154925153
Shalom

I have some fire gems that I could part with, possibly.

Someone pls start a new game.

>>154925648
Take nature gems for them?

>>154925690
Join NEETONLY

>>154925690
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GrandestMemery
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=NEETONLY

>>154925797
Unfortunately I'm not a NEET.

>>154925648
What are you looking for?

>>154926092
Nature or death gems would both be ideal at the moment.

I need to check how many I can trade though, on a phone and haven't checked the most up to date turn. Should be at least 30 given starting incomes though, iirc.

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>>154925690
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Dont_let_your_dreams_be_drEAms

NEW EA GAME FORMED

STANDARD SETTING
HUGE MAP
21 PLAYERS
12/6/3 THRONES
ONLY WORTH HEROES

>>154926841
Link is dead. Can you host the map elsewhere?

>>154926560
20 nature for 20 fire is fine.

>>154926936
https://web.archive.org/web/20150828181130/http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/underworld-of-dominion

>>154927037
thanks for finding that, I'll put it in the game messages

>>154927114
Well, most webpages older than a certain threshold can be found on https://archive.org/index.php I just put in the dead desura link and voila, works for most of desura.

>>154926841
>>154927037
Oh. I know this map. It's got some reaaaaal terrain clustering problems. It's not as bad as, say, Latus, but it's by no means acceptable for a balanced game

>balanced game

>>154927317
>No summod
>Balanced game

>>154927317
I'm wlling to take better map ideas desu. just picked the first nice one I saw.

>>154927317
Should fire up some mememods then, if it's gonna be unbalanced at least let's make it a trainwreck.

I found a less screwd up map that woudl require cutting down the map to 18 players
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7AI19pZwWqBYmNwR1dYR2NpNXM

>>154927001
That sounds good to me. Will send the gems this turn

>>154928683
I'll do the same if I can get to my turn before it hosts. Otherwise, next turn.

>>154881135
Meme games at 300% gold don't count

>be rlyeh
>summon vampire lords
>they arent immortal
This game is so fucking unfair

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Yeah get fucked, pigeon

I did have more mage support though it's arguable in quality since most were shitty..

>>154930430
Just empower a wraith lord to blood 2 and pretend he's a vampire lord. It's only 3 slaves more.

>>154930784
Forgot me name.

How do I play MA plant spookmans

Caelum, are you around? Wanted to do some chitchat.

>>154931136
Nice job roleplaying Malakal desu.

>>154926841
>ONLY WORTH HEROES
Not interested.

>>154931336
Thanks

Do you have gems? I'm buying gems

>>154931136
Yes

>>154931093
You have the same sacreds as Pangaea (just called Black Centaurs) and with them being so incredibly potent, not taking W9 seems like a waste (it also gives something to do with water gems since you have W1 access for site searching but no one to really use the gems with). In addition, you want to have growth 3 magic 3 for better freespawn. In principle you can try other things but bless (Asphodel like Pangaea expands fine with non-sacred centaurs or other troops) but W9 is the cookie-cutter centaur bless for a reason.

Besides that, the other scales are quite straightforward. You can dump temperatures (map and enemies count for more, but all other things being equal, I'd go heat because you might want to summon lamias that are cold-blooded), you can dump production (you might want to take sloth 2 if the map doesn't have fixed spawns ensuring high enough resources in your capital to recruit sacreds, otherwise sloth 3 is also fine) and because you're going to transition to gem economy sooner or later, T3L3 seems like the obvious pick. This leaves you with a bunch of leftover points, it's up to you to desire how to best utilize them. Dominion is perhaps the biggest question mark: you have the option to take lower dominion to let your economy survive slightly longer (with 200g temples which also boost freespawn it's not any kind of problem to generate candles and raise maximum dominion strength) or you can take higher dominion for stronger dominion push and more freespawn once the gold income disappears.

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>>154933927
>>154931093
As for playing, you'll have to be rather aggressive because you still need gold economy to an extent (transforming Panic Apostates is quite crucial in combating this), construct a lot of temples to spread your dominion and to generate freespawn. Same as Pangaea, Alteration seems like the natural first research goal for Mother Oak+Wooden Warriors+Transformation and such like. If you don't have dormant N5 pretender (W9N5 is pretty cheap on Volla for example) or have outrageous luck rolling N5 on Pandemoniac, Construction 4 probably would be my second goal so as to get N booster and cast Mother Oak.

>>154934376
Sad thing about Asphodel is that your Dryads don't have the seduction powers Pangaea's have.

Makes alt less amazing but it's still good.

>>154894917
Vanheim and Nazca are doing all the work against Ermor. Donate to us.

>>154935265

Asphodel dryads suck and have no use at all.

Forests give great freespawn including mindless elephants with fear and sacred centaur zombies with bows, every other terrain gives shitty undead humans.

>>154936556
H2 leadership 40 living, perfect for black centaur expansion parties.

>>154936942

Centaurs are cheaper and better for that plus forest recruit.

I only used pans in forts and centaurs in forests when playing Aspho.

>18:16 - melgrib: ToxicThug11
>18:16 - melgrib: asdfdsfds didnt mean to type that here
What did he mean by this?

>>154937064
>>154936942
Carrion Centaurs are also capable of leading the expansion parties

>>154937064
An extra 5 squares of bless is pretty important given how dom 4 AoE mechanics work.

Also dryad hags are better for getting W and E double randoms.
>>154937168
Or they could generate two random manikins a turn.

>>154937168
>>154937235

LOOK: Dryads need forts. will you get less pans for them? I wouldnt. What can dryads CAST? Fuckall.

>>154937295
Do you want E2 and W2 or do you want to be stuck with just N and D?

>>154937360
OH BOY ONE IN 90 OF THIS OVERPRICED SHITTERS WILL BE USEFUL. I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED

>>154937360
You want to pay 260 gold for a 13 RP lab rat for the less than 2% chance that it will provide useful magic?

>>154937360

What would you even DO with E2 and W2?

Guess E2 is ok. But hardly worth getting a ton of dryads for.

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>>154937647
If they had seduction it would be but as is nop.

>>154937647
E2 is great. It's really great, even. Unfortunately, it's not pay 260 gold for a 1/90 chance of getting it great

>>154937808
What can you do with E2 that's great?

>>154937647
>>154937608
>>154937483
W2 gets you to W4 with boosters, Water Troll King then gets you to W5 for Water Queens. W3 also gets you bishop fish, because more summonable H3s is always good.
E2 gets you earth boots to E3, then dwavern hammers.

>>154937927
Earthpower->E3 magic. SoG, LoS, Marble Warriors, Destruction, Maws. With boots they can cast EQ, WoS, and eventually Army of X too. With a glut of E gems, you can also summon twoll kings to give you more and bigger E casters so you have more than one caster for all that E goodness

>>154938090
Yes, I agree that those are useful paths. You have a 1/90 chance of getting each of those useful paths. You will have spent, on average, 23400 gold for each of those useful paths that you get. 23400 gold on Asphodel.

>>154938232
That's why you take Luck 3. It gives you 3 times more chances to get the paths you want on your recruits. Trust me I'm a doctor, and I tested it.

>>154938372
same

>>154938372
It's too late to take Luck3 IRL, Sy.

>>154938090
I bet you will be able to empower to W2 3 times over before you ever get a dryad W2 random. Don't even pretend that its reasonable to get the random before that.

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Wew.

>>154938372
Given how fucked dominions RNG is I wouldn't be surprised if this was true
Lord knows I've gotten N4 and D4 gygjas more often than I really should have

>>154938232
If you spend 23400 gold you get both.

>>154938542
Give us the statblock for your PD commander.

>>154938508
Or get tartarian factories going and get complete diversity that way for that matter.

>>154910621
>niggers didn't do double turns

I swear to dog if they're last to send in turn again I'm gonna put everything aside and rush them regardless of how much it opens me to backstabs.

who is fighting who in ginnunagap? i havent even seen any enemy armies just empty borders

>>154939131
All I've seen so far is UW nations going at each other like dogs in a cage. Savages I tell you.

>>154939219
Hey now. It is every nation's duty to remove cancer. Oarfish just happened to be in a very good position to do so.

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>>154938798
The thing is my guy has darkvision100 and so.

>>154939646
36hp is quite a bit on a PD commander as well

>>154939646
New natgen when?

>>154940432
Well do we want to do the natgen disciples thing? And if so do we wanna do the race teams thing (team humans, team spooky, etc)?

>>154940432
When this natgen ends, obviously.

>>154941051
Which one, the undying everliving hell or the one with bats?

>>154940729
I'd be up for it, though I never played a disciples game.

Figured there'd be no one to make angry if I'm a scrub in normal games.

>>154940729
I claim team horsemen in the name of Nyxmantis.

>>154940729
I want team Foulspawn.

Hey, Caelum, are you around. Would like to chat if possible.

>>154945158
t. Gath

>>154945217
Well, yes.

>>154941840
>>154942034
>>154943776
Well assuming nobody else hosts, I'm not sure on the factions but it would likely be (names not final, teams would pick their own anyway):
>human (includes amazons)
>team spooky (skeletons, duh)
>foulspawn
>lizards
>elves
>manlets (hoburgs and vaetti)
>team giant (avvite and fomorians)
>team wings (bats and burds)
>team uh... water? (ichtyid and muuch)
>team monkeys (monkeys, duh)

This leaves ogres, abysians, and one or two more I might have missed out, would have to put them somewhere. Some however are OP (burds and bats, for one) so it would either be split up or just removed. And yes this is something I slapped together to give you an idea of what's available, in no way final, balanced, or something that should be used.

>>154945876
You sure you want to do teams like that?

It might be easier to just throw up 20 nations, let everyone inspect them for flaws, and then have a first come first pick.

>>154945876
Let's go with however specific people claim. Aka team centaurs.

Weapons of Mass Destruction is fun with 21 penetration master enslave

>i'm somehow still alive
This is fucking great.

>>154946736
How goes UWBowl?

>>154946803
Pelagia has been dead for some time, and I'm currently only alive because of a random event.

Ys has two caps and a sizeable presence on land, while Oceania is about to take my cap. Atlantis is smaller than the other two, and appears to be preparing to turtle this out and play the long game.
Oceania has the most uw provinces, and I believe they're the strongest of the three remaining, but I don't really know much about Ys. Atlantis is definitely the weakest.

>>154904535
Noted
>>154904679
>>154924137
>>154924765
Probably Samefag, but I will count these all as votes all the same. Ok EA Latus it is then.

>>154909519
Got a link to that map friendo?

Ys you here?

>>154948626

Or Man/blog actually.

>>154947095
>Ys has a solid presence on Land
LAND NATIONS RISE AND DO YOUR PART.

>>154930784
Yeah nice work there dealing with my smaller army.

Now I don't have to pay upkeep on those mammoths anymore.

Anyways, I really think you would've probably done a lot more damage to me had you used your summons. If you had higher Alteration casting Ground Army would've fucked me over too and probably would've saved you some gems.