/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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first for castable haste

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damn i was just making this to start a new thread with

>thread not linked in previous

>>154727816
It fell off anon.

Chei won that round.

>>154727816
because it was created after the previous thread died

the true tragedy is nobody being able to post "first for chei" at the end of the previous thread

>>154727527
>not taking whizkid to build a nanoshrap supershotty

playing a tabtaur after playing demigods for a while feels like cheating
like
what the hell is all this exp
i have 4 skills over 20 and i haven't even finished U.

>>154724045
that's why you always store your shit underground in hard containers away from anything flammable. It's like you didn't even play back when lightning fucked your shit.

>>154731206
personally i find minotaurs to be the funnest race to play

>>154731206
You can get 3 of you + apts to 26 in a 5 rune.

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>>154732206
>lightning
Oh the memories.
I want acid rains back! I want to be able to choke on my own vomit! Fucking devil's team, removing fun and adding dildoes, fedoras and 4203429348 linux t-shirts.

>one way heroics out for 2 days now
>still not piratable
I wonder if pure steam files would work without any cracks and shit.
Is there a chance someone here bought it?
I want to be ultimate student, yo

>>154732746
>dildoes
>also vibrators
>and fursuits

>>154727503
Good work, son.

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How do we fix scythes, /rlg?

>>154736927
Give em cleave when attacking adjacent?

>>154736927
Bonus damage when using reach, damage penalty when attacking melee range (hilt hits)?
Wait, this makes no sence…

>>154737257
Especially cause swiftness was nerfed so you're shit out of luck until you get haste up. Then it's pretty much a skald only weapon at which point, jsut song of slaying executioner's axe.

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I want viable scythes RREEEE

Apparently the vault in MD:OWH works slightly different in that it will update after a failed run.

It's now required to put the items you took out back in after dying, unless you want to lose them forever.

>>154737594
>reapers scythe isnt viable

>>154736927
>>154737594
They're meant to be bad, I think. Outside of Sigmund, they only spawn on Reapers, but on Reapers they're always branded+enchanted, so to prevent Polearms from getting an inordinate amount of branded, good weapons, they're terrible.

Guys how the fuck should I skill in magic as a MfGl effectively? early or midgame? I don't know. I want to play something that can fight and cast spells. Or is it retarded to skill into magic as a melee?

>>154737785
just give them player-only effect like longswords have riposte now

>>154737736
>get it once in 1,5k games
o-ok pham…. . . . … .. .. . ….. .

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>>154737905
>get it once in 1,5k games
>as a transmuter
>with like 20 UC already

>>154737805
>Or is it retarded to skill into magic as a melee?
its advisable to go into some magic, always.
if you find repel/swiftness/blink you should try to have them up by midgame or so, and haste/deflect by zot
if you mean "should i go for conjurations/killdude spells as a mainly meleedude", then hell no.
but skilling a weapon skill to 10-12 or so while being mainly blastercaster is even advisable.

> I want to play something that can fight and cast spells
pretty much all but few challenge races can accomplish this.

>>154738532
>but few challenge races

Praise Chei, Luke!

>>154737805
Merfolk/high elf makes for a pretty good skald. anything with a good launcher apt or hex apt and decent launcher apt makes for a good arcane marksman. If you play in pre-0.18 you can do a GrEE in medium/heavy armor with stoneskin spamming iron shot then bonking with 27 earth 27 evo staff of earth melee. In general, Nemelex is a pretty good all magic in 1 skill with its decks. Older versions with pakellas give the strongest "magic" game for a hybrid without extended.

>>154738627

More like praise extended. Thank Xom for freexp

The old OWH game is so fast to play I literally just learned it for a few minutes and got 2 wins within not even an hour. The hell is this? Surely, the new OWH isn't this fast to play right?

I was in Zot a moment ago and something kept cancelling my Tele over and over.
i forgot to read the log
is it some draconian variant that does that? or the clown?

>>154739813
>I literally just learned it for a few minutes and got 2 wins within not even an hour
in the "no vault" hardest difficulty?
every other difficulty is babbymode, and the only truly hard class is the tourist.

There's also multiple endings, of which the hardest will take you some hours.

>>154740778
Check morgue file

>>154740993

>optional difficulty

so this makes OWH a roguelite huh

How do I bind TAB to a numpad key in DCSS so I can otab all with one hand on numbad?

Macros don't work for tab, it seems

>>154741389
the same way different species and backgrounds make dcss a roguelite

>>154741172
i already ascended so it isn't there.

>>154742143

Difficulty is not the same as species/races anon

>>154742476
yes it is.
or do you think a FeCK is as easy to 3-rune as a MiFi?
Race/class combo is literally a difficulty option and nothing more.

>>154742476
>>154742476
>He can 5-rune MuCK easier than a 5-rune MiGl
Dyohohohoho.

>>154742305
Did you play online?

>>154742872
yeah

>>154742683

For starters, classes are not races so remove that CK and Fi. Second, Game Difficulty is not equal to species/races or even classes. They're separate entities that you're not even allowed to compare.

>>154743008
>Game Difficulty is not equal to species/races or even classes
yes, race/class is a difficulty option, you dumb nigger, you even just said it yourself

>>154743208

race/species are character options, not the game difficulty itself

>>154742926
Open your account and youll have your latest win shown at the top, click on the score on the left and youll see the morgue file

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>mfw I can finally call my roguelite buddies since /rlg/ finally tolerates roguelite discussion

Are roguelike real? Does anyone know?

>>154744723

How can roguelike be real if our @'s aren't real?

>>154742683
>and nothing more
Well the playstyle itself definitely changes for some races because of inherent apts and race muts.
Like, formicids are pretty diesel, but they have quite a handicap.

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>>154744526
In your dreams.

>>154748304
POUND

>>154748304
>have already seen 5+ different filenames of this picture
Th-this is just samefagging, right? A f-forced meme?

>>154748808
It is exactly that, yes.

>>154748808
there is at least me, the original poster and an anon who also posted it claiming he is not op
I posted it 5 times so far.

>>154748808
I don't care if it's forces , it's very cute picture and Usk is fun God.

>>154749623
this

don't understand why people making a big deal out of this

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>>154749305
Oh shut up, there is nothing wrong with feeling horny after playing roguelikes and attributing certain features to certain deities we know pretty much nothing about.

PCB 5.0.1 is out:
http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=7970

Seems he broke RK money and made rockets rarer, which fits nicely with what I now understand is a grinding fetish.

>>154749908
just poz my chenghole senpai

>>154748304
imagine fucking her so hard you can see your dick bulging through her tummy
I'm so sorry

I want bastard swords and claymores and back. Triple-dildoes are silly.

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>>154750165

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>>154750165

>>154741459

keymap it instead through ctrl+D

there may be a way to set it in rcfile as well

>>154750165
You'd have to have a pretty huge dick and do anal

>>154749908
just poz my cheng up

>>154750162
>>154751832
>>154750165
I can't believe what catches on in these threads.

SIX
DICKLESS
MONTHS

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>>154752029

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>>154751972
>repetative death mazes attract autists
Who would've thought?

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>>154752117

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>>154752281

IT'S OUR FAULT
HE LEFT BECAUSE OF US
DICKS DID NOTHING WRONG

what's the difference between a rod and a staff in poscheng

>>154752489
the difference is that you should not play pozcumbutt

>>154741459
take your hand off the numpad and put it on hjklyubn you fuckboy

>>154749719
because pedophilia, is bad

>>154752489
different sets of available spells.
also rods usually have fewer max charges but better recharge rate, and staves are vulnerable to item destruction

in older versions only rods recharged and wands/staves had limited uses, but that's no longer the case

>>154752718
appreciating cute and genki anime characters makes a pedophile?

>>154753268
>anime
yes

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>>154752718
I can't shag a loli in a vidyagame, what makes you think a basement gremlin like me could accomplish that in real life?

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>>154753413
epin meme senpai

I just ascended an ascension-ready snake on rlgrobin

snakes are shit
if you are the faggot who played that snake you're a shit too

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>>154754385

SpEn of Ashenzari.
I found 2 manuals of crossbow.

Should I train crossbow and transfer knowledge the crossbow to other skill for +4 aptitude bonus ?

i'm sorry it wasn't a shitty snake

>>154732206
The shit WAS underground. And there's only so much you can do to mitigate fire hazards when the walls themselves are highly flammable.

Containers, though. I definitely had the ability to make them, both in furniture and vehicle form, but it never occurred to me. How do they interact with fire and collapsing ceilings? What should I use to best protect my shit?

>>154732671
play Oka and it's 7-8.

>>154755412
maybe

>>154752882
>tfw you had to pay to recharge staves/wands
>tfw snotling tourist is so terrible it has to phase door device spam, load up fully on consumables, the best launcher it can find, pokeball a mount and pokeball shit on the floor until it has a literal army until it needs to recall
>tfw can't carry dick, half the weapons are too heavy for you, you have fuckall blows and damage per round
>tfw you had to mine for dosh cause you can't kill for jack or shit let alone anything that drops enough exceptional to afford shit
>tfw mining anything but magma takes forever until you get better shit
>tfw that initial dive to get a magic missile so you can dig deeper in the dungeon to start getting 2-4k per mined out floor
>tfw hoarding lodesmone for an eventual +6 dig item from the gamble shop
>tfw having to hit things with a shovel for entire floors so your hydra/durrgin can grow
Theme song of snotling tourist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8

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>mfw people on r/roguelikes post their first dcss wins after playing the game for few fucking years and get fucking praised

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So, I'm still going with my polearm cheinaga, finished Spider and down to Vaults:4. Since I still don't find any source of flight other than my 3 potions and I have a ring of MR I was thinking of doing elf for my second rune, thoughts?

>>154756986
What do you expect from a community moderated by jews?

In nethack I've got a wand that when i engrave with says "all the bugs stop moving". Now i'm shit at nethack (i'm a complete noob) but that makes it a wand of death/sleep yes? Now how do i utilize these charges in effective ways that wont kill me? I'm an anon who died to their own wand of death on a promising run (comparatively) several threads back.

>>154757149
top comment in a thread about some """roguelike""" was about redditor being offended by the ingame global chat that was apparently full of bigots

fucking lmao I've had enough for another month

>>154757645
try to zap the wand at ".", that's the only way of checking if it's not a slow monster wand.

>>154755434
Lockers, pray it holds up Limit your flammables and you'll make it through okay and just have to deal with crush issues.

>>154757043
elf has no runes

>>154758110
Oh fuck I always forget. Well, I still could find a ring of flight in the loot

Is there any good roguelite?

>>154750165
>>154751528
Thanks for reminding me I haven't been to the panda for days.

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oh shit Imma catch a legendary Pokémon

Is it just me, or is Hepliaklqana bad?

Like, really shitty?

Seems half finished, and very weak at the moment.

>>154759617
dunno, only played a few games with him. a permanent meleedude ally that respawns is quite powerful
even the -10% hp you get isn't that bad, unless you're playing some already low-hp race.

>>154759617
Hepli is most often regarded as ridiculously powerful. He's been constantly nerfed since being added and he's still not really balanced

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>lost headless while trying to catch viktor
Fug. Greed is not good.

>>154753760
you have to drug her food with love potions first anon

>>154759923
>a permanent meleedude ally that respawns is quite powerful

It doesn't have enough hps to survive anywhere, though.

The formula for its hitpoints is HD * 5 + max(0, (HD - 12) * 5);

And HD is (you.experience_level - 1) * 2 / 3 + 1;

That's 120 hitpoints when you are XL 27, with low AC, EV, MR, and no real resistances to speak of.

At XL10, typically around when you first get it, the ancestor will have 35 hitpoints. and practically zero AC/EV/MR.

Basically any other kind of ally is more useful, and you can have multiples from summon spells and shit.

>>154760215
>Hepli is most often regarded as ridiculously powerful

Maybe the hexer for its spells, but other than that the ally seems like total shit.

>>154757645
zap things that are scary/about to kill you/NOT reflective

i think death bolts can bounce off of walls back at you so if you don't have reflection try to only zap it diagonally

>>154757843
and yet nobody makes fun of /rlg/ for getting offended when people point out that they're all anime pedophiles

>>154757847
Rude.

>>154760643
it respawns, and in any case you have an invocation that heals it and massively buffs its offense/maybe defense too?

you're not using your piety for anything else (the ancestor's power doesn't even depend on piety!), so you're free to spam that shit

>>154759617
>>154760643

Also, there are no piety level passives whatsoever, not even alterations to the ally, and the 2nd and top 3 piety breakpoints give you NOTHING.

>>154760995
A heal and minor buff don't mean much when it dies in one hit, regardless.

Seriously, how long do you think 120 hitpoints with no resists and poor AC/EV/MR are going to last against the kind of stuff you fight at XL27?

And respawning takes a bit, and you can't control when it happens, unlike other allies like from summoning spells.

>>154760643
>>154760995
this
+ you can run away from literally anything due to him and your swap ability

>>154761237
Literally what are you fighting that consistently blasts through 120 HP every single turn with no chance to fight back?

>>154760643
Hepli is pretty strong, yeah.

>>154761237
>dies in one hit
Just play the fucking game dude.

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reeeee

>>154761237
>And respawning takes a bit, and you can't control when it happens, unlike other allies like from summoning spells.
yes, you can.
by actually removing him before he dies
and no, he doesn't die in 1 hit if you don't count OOF's or LCS i guess.

you do realize that you can just combine this faggot with summoning as well, where he just draws attention away from you and kills stuff, without using any MP

>>154760260
If you're dead set on his undead cock, you can use heal gems and shit on him

>>154761574
ugh

>>154761237
A guy that either reaches through me or smites with mass conf, englaciation and shit is good in my book

>>154761574
Why? All that vault does if you don't have some way to kill oklobs out of LoS is force you to charge in and pray to Xom you can take one the oklobs one at a time before their nuke you to hell

>>154760260
>catch viktor
why? he is utter shite

>>154758267
Nope, nothing on Elf. I'm going to have to do Depths to be able to get my second rune. This is getting ridiculous. No naga bardings or resistance rings either, just fire/ice. I got Blink out of a book in the stash so I guess that's a win

>>154763618
I've never encountered him before.

>>154763827
You don't need flight until postgame.

>>154764836
Naga of chei kinda needs flight to do shoals

>>154765091
Does stepping into water affect slouch?

>>154765229
Slouch only takes base speed in account

>>154765229
no, but taking >5 turns to move a single step can can get you killed

>>154764836
At this rate I'll have to enter hell to have the privilege to touch a sacred ring of flight

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WANPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANCH!!

Strongman Diamond Badge obtained!

Probably the only diamond badge I'll obtain, tho...

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I got shafted and I'm probably going to die, ask me anything

>>154766389
>5 blinks
>infinite teles
>those defenses
how exatly are you going to die?

>>154766493
>teleporting on a completely unexplored Depths:5

>>154761574
hA HA HA

I'M TRYING TO KILL PLAYERS AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME

SO THIS IS THE POWER OF THE DEV...

>>154766620
with mapping, 5 blinks, those defenses and 6* piety, a good amount of HW, a vampiric glaive
i don't see how he would die even if he woke up the whole level and got Mark on himself

>>154766389
No you wont lol

>>154766962
>flayed ghosts
>salamander stormcallers
>death knights
>great orb of eyes
>deep elf anhililator
>the fucking vault full of draconians

>>154767613
no combination of those can kill him in 5-6 turns, where he reads another tele, blinks into a corner and evokes his infinite HW, ad infinitum.
he also has chei with slouch that just rapes any LOS once. or just step from time.

>>154768036
>no combination of those can kill him in 5-6 turns
Getting paralyzed by itself would be enough

>Go to play Cataclysm: DDA for the first time in months
>Volume is now in fucking ml so instead of having jeans be 5 volume they're 2000
>No options to change it back

Why the fuck would you do this? There's goes my motivation to play and I haven't even stepped outside the evacuation shelter.

>>154765091
Nagas (and all large creatures) don't get combat penalties in shallow water. >>154757043 setup is overkill for shoals. The most dangerous thing at that point would be Nikola.

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For what it's worth I got out without much trouble and then a lich almost kills me 1v1 on melee on Depths:4

>>154769130
Oh, is this the "walk toward a ranged baddie as a chei worshipper, surely nothing bad will happen" strategy I've been hearing so much about? Cheifags, ladies and gentlemen.

>>154769386
>walking towards
I moved once because I didn't notice there was something on the screen, then it beat me down to like 20 hp anyways when I actually engaged on melee

>>154750783
>recognize the author correctly
>recognize both characters correctly
>mistake the doujin
well fuck, I need to study more

>>154768924
Found the PR with a bit of searching: https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/18189

Looks like there's plans to add a setting for volume units later. It was merged four days ago, so get a version from before then, and you should be good to go.
The latest I downloaded was 0.C.5463, and I haven't noticed any bugs so far.

>>154766389
>he don't know that U is just D:27 five times.

>>154770334
Ah okay, thanks. I thought this shit was added awhile back.

>>154770409
When did the d:27 dissapear? 0.15?

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I WON! PRAISE RNGESUS!

This is my second win in a real roguelike but I got incredibly lucky.

The Quietus Whip spawned on the first floor and I found a lot of Trolls who heroically gave their lifes to protect me also the Dryad is also OP as fuck because it entangles enemies, the only downside is that it makes grass grow all over the place and there's fire everywhere in the deeper levels.

>>154770815
0.16 I think

>>154771453
Congrats! What seed was this?

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>>154771805
Thanks anon, It's #121120744

>>154772089
>that enchant
>broguebabs think crawl is easy then

>>154772353
To be fair it started with a 7% chance to kill but I put almost every enchantment scroll into it because I knew it was going to be the best weapon ever, I even killed 2 dragons with it.

After seeing the rule 34 Raicho, I'm inspired to draw some Demon porn. Suggestions?

>>154773860
Hot milf gandaya on loli fairie action.
Lets call it "fusing". :^)

>>154771453
Congrats Anon! thats Awesome!

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>>154771453
Gz anon!

>>154737685
Wish I knew this before I started playing.
Lost a Key of Seal and Dark License cause of it.

>>154776418
I really hope they increase the amount of slots the vault can hold to compensate for this.

any tips in nethack/dynahack for finding food early-ish on? I had a priest run going pretty well but i basically starved before i got anywhere.

>>154763618
I thought his modifier/soul armor is good, because speed

>>154760260
meh headless is kinda overrated
he's good early on but he's actually pretty squishy

>>154773860
yea do gandayah
also do artemis getting fucked by mordecai while reprobus watches

>>154768470
No it wouldn't. Paralysis doesn't deal damage. It can't kill you by itself.
I realize I am being pedantic, but please don't say dumb shit like that. Thanks.

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>>154771453
whoah nice!

>>154777552
>but he's actually pretty squishy
I've noticed that as well.
Is he a solid subject to fusing though? What'd be the best pair for him?

>>154778020
I don't think he's a good fuse target, there'll be beefier and stronger tanks later on in the tower with better resists and normal speed, and he'll be underleveled compared to them since he starts off at level 2. But his modifier seems good so he might be a good sacrifice once you've found a replacement for him.

how do you calculate accuracy on Demon?
I don't wanna spend a lot of points on Agility because i want a squishy wizard

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>>154778020
I've sacrificed Headless in fusions for Ehlose, Python, Chachumpa, Archangel, and Turdak. Oni would work too.

>>154777357
most of your food comes from killing shit and eating their corpses. although some corpses will poison you or make you hallucinate or kill you with food poisoning, so don't eat those ones

you can also #pray if you're starving, although it has a timeout period where if you pray again you'll piss off your god and get smited

>>154778553
Playing a squishy wizard feels tough in Demon, I've only had success with hand/eye/fist characters.
Whenever I try playing as a glass cannon I can't help but get fucked by a wild swarm of 4-5 chindi/jiang-shi.
Being bad feels bad.

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>>154778918
>Not cheesing the game with Enemy Sense

>>154779527
What's the meme here?
Using it to evade every avoidable encounter?
Sounds boring

>>154778918
I've played as a squishy Orb+dark/ice and i'm 15 on the leaderboards ayy

>>154778553
Allegedly there's like an 85% base accuracy for all attacks with +0% agility modifier on both attacker and defender, assuming same level. Anyway don't bother calculating accuracy. For a blasty mage just use a bunch of "cannot miss" attacks like most dark/light attacks, frost ring, flame orb, breath attacks, and whatever else. Dark/ice orb of power start is really fucking good, and none of the attacks can miss. Just pump 5 magic all game, and make sure to stay away from ranged physical attackers like red caps. If you have to use a ranged attack that can miss, like light dart, try to have a party member buff you with focus (ACC up), or use intent on yourself. Or you can just choose a line of fire with multiple enemies in line, so if you miss one, you still have a good chance of hitting the other.

>>154780046
I want to use light dart because it can be shot thru my demons and it deals more damage than the cannot miss equivalent (censure iirc), but it needs some investment on agility to work.

>>154780423
Yea light dart is amazing. But like I said, just buff yourself with ACC up somehow and fuck agility. You can get vehemence from Artemis for OFF+ACC up or intent from a red cap.

>>154779895
Yeah, it was boring. Plus the score was minuscule since I never killed anything.

This patch is harder for squishy casters because of the Strength changes. Been going full strength every game and loving it.

>>154780423
You don't need Agi to use Light Dart. Just aim it so that multiple enemies are in the line of fire.

zero chances of dickery

What are you playing right now, my niggas?

>>154784826
The new One Way Heroics game.

>>154784826
D e m o n
i was thinking about updating the pastebin with more info and shit

>>154785170
Is it nice? I remember someone saying it was pretty bad, compared to the first game.
>>154785328
If you feel like writing, give it a whirl, my man. It's always good to have info on a game.

>>154784826
trying out the new PosChengband 5.0.1 release

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>>154784826
I'm reading "The Myth of the Six Million", does this count as playing NetHack?

>>154785170
How are you feeling about the 30FPS cap?

Steam forums are pretty divided about it, half say roguelikes don't need to worry about FPS, other say it's just an eyesore.

What is the best relic upgrade for a glass cannon Demon faggot?

>>154785796
>>154786516
I'm having fun. I find it harder than the first OWH, but easier than OWH+
Going into some dungeons are difficult for some classes.

As for the FPS, I don't really mind it. it would be nice if it was 60FPS, but I don't see it as a problem.

>masturbate to being raped by whatever caused my splat
>start twitching when ogres and trolls show up
>can't focus when fighting hydras and dragons
>panic like a motherfucker when doing vaults finale
>antaeus

How do I break the bad habit?

>>154786912
Maybe enemy sense so you pick a fight location and not end up surrounded. Quick dismiss is good so you can replace a meatshield demon while not exposing yourself. Soul armor can be nice to remove your physical weakness. If you're an orb of power, you already have translator and transpose soul which are great.

>>154785328
The most up to date version of the pasta is on the demon forums

>>154788135
There's no cure for that type of degeneracy anon.

>>154787878
Is there really no way to detect traps? Even detection spell(is that still in) doesn't work?

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Uh

>>154789092
I haven't found a way. There might be a way, since you could attack the traps to get rid of it.

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>>154789243
Oh no. They're BOTH fat.

>>154789243
>>154789890
What is this?

>>154789243
>>154789890
This is MD OWH, right? I hear the Naughty modifier gets special character portraits, does Chubby?

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>>154790780
I haven't seen the Naughty mod, but Chubby was standard.

>>154790630
One Way Heroics Mystery Chronicle.
I didn't know party members could have random mods on them. It's only notable because Merril is supposed to be a nearly-naked turboslut who gets complements on her body from everyone.

>>154791304
TH-TH-TH-THICC

>>154791304
that's pretty lewd, maybe payong 10 bucks for a roguelike is worth it after all

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>>154791506

>>154792025
You weren't kidding about the belts, huh?

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>>154792232
Only the best in JRPG character costume design.

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>>154791869
You could pay a dollar for the original game whenever it goes on sale, which is almost all the time.

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Holy shit PCB spiders are so weak in the early game.

From level 1 to level 9 their only offense is a 1d5 bite attack.

at level 10 they finally evolve and not only double their base damage, but get poison brand as well

now i can do almost as much damage per turn as a level 1 mauler, hooray

for reference, before I leveled up from 9 to 10 my damage per attack was 7 instead of 29

>>154793142
>in the early game
>implying you won't be stuck below 500 damage per round the entire game even as the melee evolution

>>154793142
spider, most "animal" monster races, and various other things are meant to be challenging. They're going to be overall a lot harder than a human warrior, though with some cute upsides.

>>154760643

you wikifaggots really need to fuck off

>>154793564
what's the mibe of poscheng

>>154793695
for maximum ez probably something like an archer

you can make a macro on tab to shoot the closest enemy

>>154793564
>>154793142
Spiders are cute and I want to play a spider.

How do I play spider?

>>154793695
Monster race balrog or troll, probably.

They start the game with huge damage (and regen as a troll) and get a bunch of bonuses from there. Balrog ends up stronger end game but have a weird food mechanic.

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>they dumbed down lrd too

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You fucking wot

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>>154794143

Are you sure about this? Even if the wall explodes, the range is still the same?

>>154793695
the truest would be whatever player race as a berserker, but DESU 'zerkers not being able to use any magic devices except potions is not that fun

monster balrog is a good suggestion. Tonberry monk is quite strong. Mauler, warrior, blood knight, and archer are all also good at yoloing.

>>154793937
PosChengBand has a spider "monster race" for players
a few other *bands have player spiders too, including FuryBand

>>154794339
I guess he's a bit too depressed.

>>154793695
monster race STEEL DRAGON

seriously, they're insane, especially once they get their final form for huge hp and ac http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=19393

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>>154794143
>>154794395
Never mind, I guess it's a spell power thing

How to get copper wire in DDA? No electronics stores around and I tried smashing broken security systems out of cars and only got scrap.

Trying to craft a makeshift welder.

>>154795438
Figured out one way: remove head lights from cars and disassemble for 10 wires.

Are there any good uses for staffs of earthquake in PCB?
They've always seemed kind of pointless to me.

>>154788808
>>154788135
>come up against robin and the goblin army
>robin is a girl now

I never thought I'd see a way in which it actually matters.

>>154795438
isnt there a recipe for it

>>154793681
Jokes on you, I pulled that directly from the code.

Bet you feel pretty stupid now, huh?

>>154798681
that is not why that anon called you a wikifaggot

stop theorycrafting and actually try playing the game (hep is pretty fucking good)

>>154798681
You feel very stupid.

>>154799238
You die..

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What's the most fun class for Stone Soup? Why do you like it?
I recently got into rogue likes. It seems exciting.
What do you all play these days?
Thanks.
Have a space picture.

>>154799238
This is the least clever thing I've read all week.

>>154799784
>>154800093
kobold chaos knight is like playing the game on hard mode

>>154799784
I like stabbers and summoners.

Evo-characters were fun, but devs nerfed the shit out of every evocable item in the game.

>>154800163
that would be MuSu these days

>>154800093
You haven't read anything this week because you have <0 int lmao

>>154799784
>I recently got into rogue likes.
Play everything you can for fun. Learn the game, make cosplay characters, whatever. You'll get best results from melee though.
Your soul is free until you got your first win.

>>154799784
you should play nuclear throne, it's the best roguelike

>>154800321
This was fairly clever.

>>154800553
I've played the shit out of that game. It's super fun.
I like binding of Isaac too.
It really get's the blood pumping too.
What games do you play?
>>154800163
Just thinking of kobolds seems funny. They seem like cartoon super villains.

>>154800618
No it wasn't!

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>>154800697

>>154801157
That shit is funny. Does the artist have a website or something?
Any more?

>>154800093

>wikitavernfaggots in charge of reading

>>154801157
pat pat

>>154763618
>Your frontliners have the body veil that slows people
>He's spamming shit that accelerates turns
>Get crusader, blood thirst, infectious, warmth, slime heal multiplier on your dudes
>Load up a demon with something that can shock, high voltage, chain shock, galvanize, greek fire, warmth, and ember burst or other ignition spell
>You or an ally get haste
Do you not like getting 3-5 turns per turn they get?

I tested this in Wizard mode by kiling a Hydra.

No manual
Crossbow Level : 8.1
Aptitude : 0
Points : 1870

No manual
Stealth level : 12.2
Aptitude : 5
Points : 1840

With manual of Crossbows
Crossbow Level : 11.3
Aptitude : +4
Points : 3680

So, it's useless to transfer knowledge Stealth to Fighting without manual, but with manual, transfer knowledge is like double skill growth.

The only downside is large piety cost and I'm training useless skill.

>>154801312
https://guoh-art.tumblr.com/

>>154802587

>Do you not like getting 3-5 tums per turn

I like it

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How do I beat Brogue bros? Any tips for intermediate player?

>>154803502
>not a beginner
>asking for tips
maybe rls aren't for your inferior brain lad

>>154803502
don't die. make friends with monsters. remember to eat

>>154802587
don't forget slow spell from an aithir

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Hooray.
http://pastebin.com/eJqQhBpc

I didn't fuck up for once.

Nearly did though when I went full panic immediately once the spawning started after I apported the Orb, teleporting out of the vault before I actually picked the damn thing up.

Thanks goes to the anon who told me to go with Dragon Form since I seriously would have probably ignored skilling more Transmutation for it it otherwise in favor of sticking to Blade Hand and Crossbows despite having found the spellbook in Lair.

>>154805604
Grats anon, OpTm is fucking hard, at least for me.

>>154766389
You're totally fine. you've been using bend time right? Plus you can net and obliterate up to five dudes.

>>154769610
You gotta take it easy so you can temporal distortion or step if needed. If nothing else, edit your rc file so when you're with chei you have most endgame threats forcemore message on nearby/comes into view.

>>154793142
>>154793564
>>154793937
Don't they just buy a wand of magic missile then grind pack monsters for devices to phase door device spam?

>>154795438
Headlights, broken electric engines, I believe vehicle controls had like 15 each. Maybe stereos?

>>154798284
I heard it was for dropping checkerboard to break LoS so you can force mana stormers into a more favorable fight.

>>154799784
Arcane marksman. Thanks to your ranged weapon and mostly 1 skill support you can have pretty effective disables. It's really something when you have a bunch of confused dudes who are also slowed by metabolic englaciation stumbling around in Leda's Liquefaction while you pelt them under haste and +9 song of slaying. Plus with dithmenthos, his spell mirroring essentially adds an additional 25% chance you'll land your hex. Damn shame about enslavement though.... ;_;7

Pakellas or Evo Nem was pretty great too and so was when you could reliably acq a couple rods. You could take a high hp race, pack an rElec randart and explode shit with 23+ evo disc of storms. Though makh is bretty good too since you aren't as fucked up by it. Evo's just such a cool thing in crawl.

>>154803502
>Put everything into a 3/3+ staff of firebolt, lighting, or conjuration or a wand of enchant monster
>Try to lighten the load with a little floor drop melee, throwing darts to pop traps, and other staves so you don't slow down too much
>Remember you don't have to kill everything
>???
>Win

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>find a semi truck
>get it stuck because I'm dumb
>bump into a motorcycle at the lowest speed possible
>somehow get flung out of the truck and die despite a seatbelt
I have literally no idea what happened.

RIP snake kung fu girl, you were surprisingly better than expected

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The true king of the Iron city.

>>154806797
R.E.A.L.I.S.M.!

>>154806797
This is why I don't drive at all.
A modified shopping chart with cargo carrier is enough to bring most of my loot.

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>>154807043
that is awesome

>>154807443
Luckily I'm a strategic mastermind, so I equipped a +9 freeze axe to kill him through his rC-.

>>154806643
>I heard it was for dropping checkerboard to break LoS so you can force mana stormers into a more favorable fight.

yeah but by that point you likely have _destruct which is much better for that purpose

>>154807572
I guess in like 30-60 when you tele into view of 15 of those stupid deep elf warlocks with mana bolts?

>>154784826
I'm bouncing between the new one way heroics and Nethack. One day i'll get my first win. one day.

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well i guess he really did make jwewlry "more interesting"

>>154785796
i'm liking it alot too. I never played the original or the + extensively but the new one is feeling pretty brutal, even on normal. and the mechanics are cool.

>>154811270
I'd wear it

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>>154804838
Rude
>>154805118
>>154806643
Thx for the tips bros

Has anyone tried Yara + blowgun + needle of paralysis to stab Hell Lords ?
The formula is 2 + 1d(3 + Throwing Skill + Blowgun To-Hit).
The dice result is compared to the monster's HD

Chance to paralyze Lom Lobon with +9 blowgun and needle of paralysis
15 Throwing : 37%
20 Throwing : 47%
27 Throwing : 52%

15 Throwing + Yara's Unravelling : 51%
20 Throwing + Yara's Unravelling : 59%
27 Throwing + Yara's Unravelling : 63%

Yara adds 11-14% success rate because it cuts the target's HD by 25%.

How am i supposed to kill lom if he heals 1/2hp every turn.

>>154814645

see >>154793681

>>154814645
Well they've parastabbed cerebov before so I dunno

>>154814714
Haste+might with 26 fighting and an antimagic floor drop or haste+brilliance+potions of magic or a means of channeling.

>>154814714
You don't, not every build can kill him.
Steal the rune and get the fuck out from that place.

>>154814714

this >>154814935
you just blink past him, grab the rune and tele away
this is why extended is so bad, unless you add some stupid self-imposed challenges, it's just blinking all the way all the time. even if you play a braindead melee dude, you probably still have some blinks on you.

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>>154814645

Why would I waste exp on throwing bloat when I could just worship Zin instead?

>>154754385
I hope you get ass cancer.

>>154815539
and this is why rlgrobin is unplayable
there will be always a one faggot who will decide to fuck up the character because he doesn't like the combo or the god or the items instead of just fucking off to a different server or even a different game version

>>154816075
retard tryhard minmaxing wikifaggot codediving nobrainer devdrone
you're the reason crawl isn't fun anymore
kill yourself

>>154816418
literally, I hope you watch your entire family die

>>154816418

crawl isn't fun anymore bec. u can't win LOL

Okawaru is op

>*corrode
into the lava it goes

>>154815539
>lmao I gotta get 15 runes or I won't feel special
I ascended your shitty snake, fucking thank me

>>154818993
Okawaru is Hu

>>154820403
>Ring of the alchemist's apprentice

>>154821743
>ring of the 14 runes

>>154821848
>14
More like 20

>>154822118
>>154821848
i miss when you could get infinite runes

>>154736927
>>154737084
Give them +1 Range & Cleave at the same time

Suddenly this low damage shit pile is almost worth the 20 something skill in polearms to use

>>154822809
that wouldn't make them worth it at all.
>>154822396
me too.
both abyss and Pan should have infinite runes.
also collecting runes should give a special ability or a statboost or something.

>>154823030
Oh man, that would be cool. Like, the vaults rune gives you a greater chance to find good items, the swamp rune gives you a chance to poison things that attack you, spider gives you a chance to confuse on hit, swamp gives you a chance to constrict or improves your constriction, slime gives you a choice of good mutations, oh man.

>>154823214
blooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Who is ash good for?

>>154823826
Yami Yugi or Kaiba.

>>154823214
those would be pretty op
i was thinking more along the lines of something with a high exp-timer like the elemental evokers or a high food-cost, and all the runes sharing the same timer

like shoals giving you an ability to create deep water puddle surrounded by shallow water.
poison rune casting high spellpower olgrebs radiance
slime rune shooting a corrosive bolt/creating a corrosive puddle that lasts a few turns
vault rune imprisoning a single target or yourself for a few turns. (probly too powerful)

>>154823214

Then crawl would officially be a roguelite

>>154823826
trolls planning to use statue form

>>154824335
>bloatform

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>>154824571
Shoo shoo!

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Will PCB purists from /rlg/ trace my IP and come beat and jerk me off if I enable the easy_id birth option?

>>154824840
depends, do you have dfc and a tum tum

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>>154825049
Nah, I have a slight beer belly and big tits.
Anyway, I'm going with easy_id because I hate PCB anyway.
Especially now that I can't 555 anymore.

>>154825263
Wow are you a girl?

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>>154825049
That probably is not the kind of dfc and tum tum you'd want i hope.
>>154825263
Rest in Pissu Pissu

>>154825343
>>154825263
what
what happened to 555

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>>154825317
In our hearts we're all the little girl, anon.

>>154825372
It was too good for this world.

>>154823030
>Abyss "stat pot" grinding is gud
>Roll into Pan "stat pot" grinding supercharges
>Just bump with 72/72/72 stats

>>154824335

>planning to use bloatform

shiggy

>>154825405
But im not asking for your heart, im asking for your physical form..

>>154825565
>implying you don't just bump and kill everything after 5 runes anyways.

>>154826067

>bump into an Iron Giant pre-throw ally
>consider suicide

>>154825565
>Implying stats matter when everything in extended does % damage

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We did it lads

>>154826816
>be
yawn
you didn't do shit
come back when you win a real game, scrub
i suggest starting with a class that takes skill and talent next time...like a summoner.
hahahaha who am i kidding
you're only ever going to win berserkers
enjoy your 'win' kid

>>154826986
Never share your opinion on this korean-taiwanese puppetry forum again.

>>154826986
>Like a summoner
Have you even done one? Plus they're easy if you just take a martial race and bonk all game.

>>154826816
>72k turns
wew lad, that's pretty awesome.

>>154827121
Had PBT mutation, which in combination with a,b spam and that shiny axe made the o-tab game super efficient

>>154826816
Why didn't you switch to Makhleb ?

>>154827406
Trog's super fine for extended, even if Makh is better for Ds.

It's also funny how incredibly gimped the end-game bosses get from being punched in the face with an antimagic weapon a couple of times. Feels like beating up nerds and taking their lunch money.

>>154827078
>>154827113
ez (:

>>154826816
Congratulations!

>>154820637
I'll thank you to watch your first child be born with down syndrome

why would anyone play on public account? what's the reasoning behind it?

DrCK is comfy as fuck. It's like having my own dungeon buddy crawling with me!

Even if he's kind of a dick sometimes.

>>154831860
Kind sir, would you like to savor some fine KoCK?

>>154831860
CK is always fun until you get to Depths/extended, where xom just randomly kills you

>>154832695
>tfw we used to be able to just evoke the ring of tele all day long

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>clearing Radon Mine
>kill a room full of monsters
>see a yellow *
>"neat, a gem!"
>take a look at it
>it's actually the sun
Is this Furyband or QftU?

>>154833101
>he's playing Quest for the Unicorn, the absolute madman
I had some fun with it, but the dungeon "generation" becomes grating quickly.
He finally released the source code though, so some smert anon can make it better.

>>154792963
already have it and have won with most of the classes; the art in the new one looks to be a lot more lewd than the shocked and worried fairy lady that tells you how you fucked up condescendingly.

>>154831667
lmao 2salt

grow up buddy it's just a game

>>154792025
>succubus trying to attract Nomura.jpg