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Final Fantasy General CCLXXXIII - /ffg/

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>General info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVhwsUFaDE
https://youtu.be/cji-L0hu1Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUsOpKnHtZY
https://youtu.be/aH0jj4NWFYA
https://youtu.be/Wepgwx_9kto

>FF XII: The Zodiac Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81NsStczT8E
https://youtu.be/274X0SjKx8M

>World Of FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMey5SKKkc
https://youtu.be/_FdGg3KKIcE

>FF XI
/ffg/ has a linkshell on Asura: "FearTheVoid"!
FFXI's August update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/51154?_ga=1.139137075.1275968002.1463817636_ga=1.110236805.1275968002.1463817636
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FF Record Keeper
Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
Upcoming Banners List: http://bantha.org/~dscotton/ffrk.html
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjUI0AwTAoBxuZlGQQZfaEQMnNt2bUdzm0gMZHXq4Cs/edit#gid=0
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/BxEKaTg3

>FF Brave Exvius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bhRtof5oOA
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

>Mobius FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ipfJv4Qp6g

>Justice Monsters V
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ785B_u6lc

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/cPCCGXNy

>Vayneposter Filter
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tsjzh

Previous thread: >>154470601
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So where is the new JPBE event?
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>>154552742
set your fucking time zone right retard
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>>154552834
how the fuck was I supposed to know that
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>>154552995
by using the internet like anyone who isn't a helpless fucking baby
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>travel will mainly be undertaken by trains in the later stages of Final Fantasy XV

PLEASE LET THERE BE A NEXT GEN DOOMTRAIN
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>>154539204

When I get a decent Lightning going she'll be my roaming warrior.
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Are any of the new JPBE units good?
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>>154554305
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Is optimizing a party automatically viable in Record Keeper?

How exactly does it work out?
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>>154554529
OC donut steels?
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>>154554978

no, poorly but not as poorly as it used to, also enjoy you're default soul breaks
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>>154555190

i'm pretty sure kamil is from gundam
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.
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>>154555259

Optimize affects Soul Breaks?
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>>154554305
>Get the both 89/100 characters
>And a shitton of Moogles
What the fuck do these things do? I can't use them in enhance.
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>>154555441

it'd be much easier for everyone if you just tried it once before asking all this shit
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>>154555441

Yeah, if you've removed the default one, it'll requip that.
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>>154555458
They're character specific moogles
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>>154555458
they're TM specific. You can only use them to enchance the character with the corresponding TM
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>>154555485

I'm sorry, I have learning disabilities IRL. Please do not bully me.

Bully me again and I'll take you downs.
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>>154555382
I'm pretty sure Gundam's "Kamil" is not a girl, though he is one sexy motherfucker. So yeah, guessing they're the steelest of donuts.
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>>154555693
But Kamil is a girl's name though
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thanks
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>>154556557
Use gems to buy more slots, kupo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3_l2zVsF_0

>voice acting is decent
>sounds like shit because of the terrible editing and the fact they all record their lines separately in individual booths

Such a pity.
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>the cockatrice has a ballsack for a wattle

square pls
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If I did a run through of the Titus Fantasy X mod, what should I name him for it? TEEDUS seems too easy.
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>>154557703
Sephiroth
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>>154557703
>Not HAW HAW HAW
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>>154557861
Isn't it an 8 character limit?
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Jesus christ man, fuck this guy. Thank god for Minwu's IC Medica, so I could survive the stupid fucking opening kicks and have a chance.
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>>154558160

I love that feeling of BARELY making Champion.
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>>154556618
Vault literally tomorrow m8
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>>154553807
Best summon in VIII hands down. Also hoping to see Doomtrain return in the future.
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Why is Final Fantasy called that? I mean, it's a series about fantasy, cool. But why the final?
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>>154557703
Jecht's Son. Or Jechtson if char limit. Or Notjecht. Iunno.

Crybaby also works but doesn't pay off until the end of the game.
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>>154558447
Because if the first Final Fantasy didn't sell massively, it would've been the final game Square made.
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>>154558447
read up on the guy behind the first final fantasy and you will get it
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>Do some core dungeons in RK for stamina and mythril
>This song starts to play during the boss fight
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qywDia1ltA

I got fucking chills m8s. Now I kinda want to replay IX.
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>>154558348

Well Lucis' theme is death. Insomnia literally praises death. And the skulls shown everywhere look like doomtrain's face.

Also the focus on trains really makes me hope the ring summons doomtrain as the later focus in the game is travel via train. They also said you can walk in trains while they travel like RDR.
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What the usually go-to tactics to clear strong trash while clearing elites to catch up on stamina?
After all, using abilities make you get to the boss pretty light on ability uses.

My idea would be Retaliate, but that ain't always an option, so I would like to hear you guys inputs.
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>>154558738
There was one, event though I think, that played You're Not Alone.

Whatever happened to the Concert Hall in RK anyway?
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>>154559075
I must have missed it, I'm fairly new to RK.

Concert Hall opened few weeks ago iirc, I wish it was permanent.
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>>154559265
>I wish it was permanent
It was there for like a week and then it was gone. I think everyone assumed it WAS a permanent reward for the promotion, and also that the songs you pick would actually play outside of the goddamn Hall, but that was quickly proven wrong. But then they suddenly took the whole thing away altogether even though it contained exclusive remixes that are now just gone apparently.
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>>154559265
It was the Dagger event.
Check it out: https://youtu.be/kUUM8Q3dBbA?t=56s
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>>154558920
BLM with ruinga and quake

That's ten mobs you can insta wipe, more if you have a the ability refresh RM. Spam Lifesiphon with everyone else and BTFO it with soul breaks when you get there
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>>154561369
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>>154560776
Oh, right. I was already around, but I was still too low-level and ability-less to beat 90+ missions. Too bad, would have enjoyed the music. Thanks for the link friend.
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>>154561485
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>>154561603
HOLY SHIT HE POSTED THE CLOUD SQUAT!!! thought he was gonna forget this time, whew
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First to remind that Caius Ballad did nothing wrong.
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>>154561464
Does Mana Spring II refreshes one or both BLM equipped skills? Just curious, couldn't find specifics on it.
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>>154556557
>fedora notification
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>>154562097
>that hairstyle and colour
yes, """""""""""""""""""""""nothing wrong"""""""""""""""""""""""" indeed
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>>154562508
>long hair
>bad
Hm-hm.
>colour
You must be pretty new to FF it that upsets you.
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>>154562308
Both slots get refreshed.
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>>154562943
Really nice, thank you Anon.
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>>154562850
>long hair
>good
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BE finally broke me....I have finally made a FB account so I could sync it and run it on an emulator....I am dissapointed in myself
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>>154563190
>>>/pol/
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>All these 360+ ATK Fencers popping up on my friends list
That's nice, but I'm still not wasting lapis in this trap banner.
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>>154563908
So you fell for the meme. Bad anon. I hope it's not a dummy, 'cause FB does erase fake accounts. You might be spared, just don't spam friend invites for lapis, and for all that's good in FF, do NOT join any BE group - there are cunts out there that enjoy warning FBmods.
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>>154564128
fuck no, I'm never touching that account ever.
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How often does trash mobs in Elites absorb Earth? trying to decide if I make quake or R4 ruinga
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>>154566160
Aborb? Very rarely.

Negate? Not uncommon. All flying monsters automatically negate earth damage.

Quake is basically just there for the occasional boss fight that requires earth damage for medals. Otherwise, Ruinga is just flat out better.
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>>154566160
i dont think they absorb earth at all at the + level. ruinga is still the better choice because earth is a common immunity and quake does slightly less damage than ruinga.
also, r3 is sufficient for dailies.
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>>154566324
But Ruinga ain't enough for long dungeons even with Mana Spring right? Shouldn't you have both on your trash clearing mage?
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Already bypassed, kek.
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>>154566449
ruinga r3 clears 8 waves with mana spring. ruinga r4 clears 11 waves. so those 3 extra waves occur often enough and is the orb cost of r4 affordable enough to make that hone? in my experience, no.
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>>154566585
how was this achieved?
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>>154567024
The guy who did it didn't publish the method for obvious reasons. He will be sharing it only with the reddit data miners as to keep the method working and away from DeNA's hands.
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>>154567141
oh that makes sense.
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>>154566449
You should be autoing to build SB.
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>>154566449
for dailies take ruinaga and meteor. between the two you will clear everything
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>>154567396
I was not talking about dailies though, this is about long elite dungeons with strong trash.
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If I don't have any V medicas and just shared ones for Lenna to use how likely am I to beat the cid mission?

Faris and Bartz are capped and I have faris's sea lord sb and bartz's bsb and ssb
Gil and exdeath are 65 with no sbs
Lenna is almost 60 with no sbs, can egg her higher and give a shared medica
Krile is 70ish with sheep song and wind drake's roar

I feel like not having a good medica for lenna will be a limiting factor since shareds just heal like 1kish to the party
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Was worried a couple times but I had Tyro uses his abilities every turn and Bartz hit hit often enough that I always had Wall up.

Best advice I can give No-Wall people is have your RW be a Wall and pray that you have a Medica user and maybe a Haste user. Go with Tyro selection and get one if need be as he hits hard and often. Especially the first few turns where he could do back to back Monk Kicks. Biggest key to the fight is Elemental resistances, equip those Element Resistant Accessories with the strongest you can as he goes through the whole array of Spellblades except for Water Strike (Meaning that II Acc. gets great use here). Element Resisting means more to survive than buffing your attack. For me he used Fire Strike a lot so I was happy to see the Nightmare Fire Resist Acc get use. Drawtaliate doesn't work most of the time as he does Multi-Spellblades and AOE Physicals. Dispeling his haste he gets is huge so if you do normally Drawtaliate, replace Draw Fire with Banishing Strike. Regen helps but is not essential, Curaja at R5 is, Protectga either with the spell or a LB is a big deal. He is possible to beat without a Shout or Hand of the Emperor LB/RW, but it'll be harder.

That's about all the tips I can give. Good luck.
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>>154567773
How about you try it?
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>>154568202
b-but muh one stamina!
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>>154568402
You're a big boy, you can S/L until your heart's content
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>>154568124
He's all physical, right? I got Bartz SSB which raises defense, protectga, and wall RW. Gonna try those with full and power break and see if I can get through his damage
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>>154569563
Yup, all Physical. Might want to try using Steal Power with Bartz and then have your breakdown user use Full Break & Armor Breakdown.
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>>154572350
Someone call the Final Fantasy 8 defense force guy to rage and keep the thread bumped.
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>>154573229
Why is there a FF8 defense force? I thought everyone agreed it was the weakest of the PS1/2 games
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>>154573586
No thats XI
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>>154573667
MMOs dont' count
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>>154567773
Galuf Boostga (35%) was my only unique SB for the realm and the shared Regen staff from Tactics was also crucial on Ex, who spentmore than half of the battle Haste-ing the team.
Had a shared mini medica on both Faris (~750 HP) and Lenna (~1200 HP).
Got lucky to only eat one Monk Kick at the first 3 turns and that also came after Protectga was up.
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>>154573718
Actually I've never played any of the MMOs, be it XI or XIV before. Is there any difference? And why would square try to keep 2 MMOs up at the same time instead of focusing on one?
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>>154574182
Yeah, they're very different. FFXIV is more of a WoW clone while XI was kind of it's own thing.
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>>154573586
It's my favourite, but also my first FF, so probably bias.
I dislike IX or X the most of that era, but I have yet to play XII.
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>>154574346
X and XII are part of a different era than VIII. Hell, XII is a different era than X at that point.

When you do get around to XII, play the IZJS version or the upcoming remaster when it hits PC. If you don't you WILL hate it.
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>>154574295

>WoW clone

Huh, guess that explains its popularity. I've popped into their threads from time to time for fun but usually have no idea what's going on.
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>>154574593
It's by far the best WoW clone on the market, arguably even better than WoW.

They really managed to bring it back from the brink with the initial disaster.
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>>154574346
VII, VIII, X, XII, XIII.

If one of these is not your favorite FF, you need to reevaluate your taste.
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>>154574295
I'll never understand this "WoW clone" crap.
MMOs existed before WoW and WoW is basically a clone of those.

>>154574786
>No V listed
Come on, VIII is my favorite, but not listing V is absolute poor taste.
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>>154574786
But what about VI?
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>>154573586
It's not that 8 is bad, but there is a guy that's been sperging out about it the last couple days.
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>>154574897
>>154574932
Games old and silly enough to be released on Nintendo consoles cannot qualify as your favorite game after a certain age. It would be like a 35 yo man telling you his favorite film is Lion King. It's subconciously sensed that there is something wrong with the individual's taste.
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>>154574786
but that's the beginning of the end of FF. The best era is VI > V > IV but all three are fantastic
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>>154575395
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>>154575239
Do you always feel bitter for days after someone shares a conflicting opinion?
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>>154574182
XI tried to emulate a lot of things that Everquest did back in the day. Novel at the time and was quite difficult and popular. Nowadays it's a bit harder to play due to games getting better and thus XI's arcaic system feels annoying to play. On the flip side though they've made a lot of changes to try and make it easier to play, thus while taking down the difficulty made it more accessible and "funner". XI's main story can now be beaten under 40 hours. Major Expansions are about the same amount each.

XIV tried to emulate what made WoW popular while painting on a coat of Final Fantasy. Combat is slower than the industry MMO standard at first but you get faster as you level. The non-combative content actually is pretty fun and robust with complex strategies and planning.

Both have free login campaigns frequently per year so you never have to sub if you don't want. Just have to play when it's available for a free login.

Reason why they have 3 MMOs at once (XI, XIV, & Dragon Quest X) is that each bring in income specifically to get funding for their Non-MMO projects. That's the big problem with the MMOs, new content made is the bare minimum as they don't get as much funding as other projects. All 3 MMOs specifically recently have funded XV into being a thing.
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>>154575532
More like there is a good way to argue positives of your game while accepting that it has it's flaws, and then there is rage-fueled nonsense that doesn't become more valid regardless of how many times it's repeated.
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>>154575778
I didn't see any rage-fueled nonsense and I certainly don't see the "FF8 Defense Force" talking about those "spergs who tried to bash FF8" for no discernible reason other than bitterness.
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>>154575409
Sales were higher across the board from VII onward. The "IV, V, VI golden era" is a myth conjured by contrarians and Nintendo babies.
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>>154574786
VIII was my first mainline FF. Played it almost blind and loved it.

Did a few more playthroughs over the years but never really bothered with Triple Triad and junctioning.

Last year though, I bought it from the summer sale and started playing cards from the get go. Lionheart and optimal magic junctioned on disc 1 while my party remained below lvl 15.

I can see why the abuse of triple triad and junctioning may turn people away but if it's played like it's meant to be it can be a fun experience.
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>>154576164
the nickelback defense
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>>154573586
>everyone agreed
This is like an example in SAT prep books regarding how to quickly eliminate wrong answers in the writing and reading section.
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>>154574786
>If one of these is not your favorite FF, you need to reevaluate your taste.
>He didn't list I-VI

Please kill yourself
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>>154576208
God, the game is good at hooking you in.
Sure, it's messy at times and the pacing goes bad around the end of disc two, but holy fuck that exam mission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v6BtJaBQmo
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>>154575582
Thanks senpai
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>>154576164
>sales = quality
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>>154576164
Refer to this image: >>154575515
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>>154576573
It's a shame that most people will look back and remember the orphanage and TIME COMPRESSION instead.

>>154576662
VII and on weren't bad quality, but they were a very different series. It's just not going to attract the same people as before.
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>>154576573
>X-ATM092

Got caught so many damn times
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>>154576573
Anyone who says VIII doesn't have the best set pieces is a big, stinky liar. Unfortunately, set pieces and beautiful locations aside, the game is riddled with issues. I still play VIII from time to time if I just want the crazy ride though.
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>>154576269
>>154576662
Pick a metric. Sales, reviews, technology, music, art, mechanics. The more they made them, the better they got as a general trend. Therefore, you can eliminate the bottom half of the curve and pick from personal taste from the top games.
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I started playing XIII-2 today. Fell in love with this song immediately when I heard it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEzumonJv4

I love the combat system, but I hope I won't get overwhelmed by the amount of ways you can skill your team.
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>>154577067
Well, okay, if you want to eliminate VIII XII and XIII, that's your prerogative.
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>>154577149
Damn, that's good.
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>>154576794
Even those aren't too terrible.
The orphanage thing was abrupt, but you learn about the GF memory loss from the beginning of the game and the time between the orphanage and garden remains an unknown. Time compression was weird as fuck, but probably one of the better ways to handle the end game considering possible alternatives.

>>154576859
>That hill before the bridge
Every fucking time.

>>154576943
Yeah, some parts feel like they rushed it out.
Part of me hopes for a remake, because they might tune things to make it flow better, but also fear for a remake because they could ruin those great scenes.

>>154577067
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life.
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>>154577067
you are just plain stupid and wrong. There are tons of things that were not successful at all when they were released. There are a lot of things that still don't make money but have been so ingrained into culture that you can't separate it anymore. Look at HP Lovecraft. His books still don't sell but all of his ideas and creations have been ingrained so deeply into our culture.
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>>154577518
Nothing can claim to be better strictly on virtue of it being older. How far do you want to go back?

I hope you have a better reason than that to claim those games are superior to everything from VII onward.
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>>154577149
>but I hope I won't get overwhelmed by the amount of ways you can skill your team
You won't. Noel and Serah are only really good at Com/Rav (though I did invest a bit in Med/Sab for Serah and Sen for Noel) so you won't really have to worry about how to level them. That just leaves you with getting one monster for each role you want to use to plow through the story. The main story's difficulty is really undertuned so your party setup really isn't that important for that.

One thing you should take note of if you want to optimize your characters though is that every few levels there's a visibly bigger node in the crystarium. Depending on what role you level on that node you'll get a stat bonus corresponding to that role so if you want to skew your characters towards a specific stat (you do), then make sure to level the right role on those nodes.

Also best XIII-2 song coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhPRByQPbzE
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No actual argument so file a report instead. Thanks for supplying even more evidence against yourself.
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A general that survives on shitposting doesn't deserve to survive
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>>154573869
what kinda hones you got? My A team barely made it. I don't have any bravegas besides shout so I'd either be RWing it or wall to live and I'd probably need wall with how much Bartz was shitting out even after 3 stacking breakdowns on his attack and wall up.
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ffxi made twice as much money as viii so it is twice as good as viii

vi made more money than viii so it is objectively better than viii

vii did not make as much money as xiv so it is not as good of a game as xiv
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>>154579519
>let me cherry pick one of several criteria you chose and attempt to refute your argument
>let me deliberately misrepresent the revenue of subscription based games in my attempt
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final fantasy tactics made less than final fantasy iii, it is as bad as final fantasy i and ii
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>utter shit luck ever since I started
>crap relics
>finally decent banner
>only one crap relic, Bartz cloack
>pull once
>Bartz cloak
>few more pulls
>nothing
>do 11x pull
>1 5*
>Bartz cloak

Disinstalled the app, I quit. One less mobage to stress about.

Now let's see how many Penelos and Shadows it will take for BE before I quit it.
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>>154578825
>Shitposting is "knowingly contributing low quality, off-topic, or ill intentioned posts."
I think you were misinformed.
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>>154580371
I get you're upset, but you should have realized a few things:
1) Bartz Cloak boosts wind damage. That is very good.
2) If you started with single pulls, you should have quit right away after the first pull got you a 5* - see the pastebin in the OP.
3) A review of the Upcoming Banners List in the OP would have revealed that better banners are imminent.
4) A quick question of whether or not you should do an 11x pull would have cleared things up.

Also,
>Disinstalled
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>>154574786
>13 and 8 listed
>6 and 9 not

Objectively shit taste
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FFRK SURVEY DAY 3

Going on for 5 days. Don't forget to vote. Rules are listed on the form.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd8crTGhFA6DlGFESEyw2EAzhU9HOwdJdqN4Dwh_b3wgZt7Yw/viewform
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>>154580849
He didn't list 9 because it is a thematic callback to the pre-7 games.
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>>154580809
>1) Bartz Cloak boosts wind damage.
That's the SB, not the cloak itself.

>>154580987
Go away.
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>>154581156
Read it again you blind old man
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>>154581156
>That's the SB, not the cloak itself.
wrong, retard. learn to read
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>>154581328
That's unnecessary.
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>Hey Squall how you doing buddy long time no see?
What the fuck are you talking about Irvine?
>Well... Uh we kinda grew up together, dude. Actually like this whole group of people we're traveling with grew up together
I don't remember my childhood let's never talk about this again

That whole fucking twist is the stupidest shit. "oh lol these guys gotta be connected somehow uhhh they all grew up together and forgot!"

Laguna segments are also boring and break up the pace in an unenjoyable way
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>>154580987
fuck off and die, you are poison to this thread.
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>>154581269
Hey now, I'm not THAT old.
How much of a boost is that with Enwind anyways?
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>>154580809
1)Good for? People with better relics and abilities? Probably. Not me
2)Oh yes, let's stop at crap I don't need.
3)Honestly? I knew but I wasn't interested. Guaranteed 5 doesn't mean guaranteed good stuff. BSB for characters I don't care about? Nah. OSB? Kek, with my luck I'd have pulled a crap grimoire off banner - like I already have;
4)I looked at my shit and said "yep, need a multi"; I don't need to be spoonfed every time.

>disinstalled
In my primary language we use "dis-" for that; no need to be bitchy about grammar in a FF board.
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>>154581357
sure learning to read is technically not necessary, but it sure helps. You should try it anon.
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Anyone want to run some Mobius multiplayer? 31 WHM here with 104 deck, Yuna/Mog/FatChocobo/Famfirit making shit look trivial all day, but goddamn I'm sick of retarded people

>Breaker rushes to go first every round
>NOBODY lets healer go first
>Nobody driving besides defender
>People attacking Ifrit while defender is up
>People using magic when boss is full red bar

If you're smarter than above, lets get some lobby codes posted!
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My first time running with my stuff from the buff banner. Holy god this rocks.

Turn one SS and Shout the rest life siphon. Turn 2 Ramza RW keepers tomb and the next 4 rounds are breaks. By turn 4 I'm laying down SBs for additional phys def and major regen.

God damn this is nice. Would have to switch around a bit if i need a proper medica like if atacks ignore resist or def. But god damn this party tanks
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>>154581749
I want to try multiplayer, but my deck isn't finished yet. And I play WHM as well.
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>>154581749
Ifrit murders black mages even with fire PuPu cards so I'll pass until I max my panels and fafnir out

Unless we have a knight or if you appreciate a dead body after the first 2 rounds
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>>154581695
the cloak is good on its own, fuckface. With the +20% boost, the SB already does perfectly respectable damage and with the enwind effect, the second cast will deal damage comparable to a SSB. You've fallen for the meme of anything that isn't a top tier relic being trash, when in reality, the best SBs just make an easy game even easier. I played for 6 months after Ultimates were released with relics you'd consider trash (and spent a huge amount of mythril chasing SSBs with little to show for it and several streaks of 4-5 0/11 pulls) and no hastega or wall, and I can still count the fights I struggled with on one hand. People clear Ultimate Cid's Missions with no unique SBs so there's no reason not being loaded with SSBs and BSBs should prevent your main party from doing so too.

You're just being a whiny bitch who's convinced himself he needs the cool new toys instead of making the stuff you do have work.
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>>154581749
I understand the last two, but whats wrong with the rest? That sounds right to me
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>>154581471
At what point will killing yourself be better than the pursuit to shitpost? I want you to think about that.
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>>154582069
>>154582496
We can run Tyro farm runs if you want, just to farm mats and let you get the hang of multiplayer, I have a maxed 144 explorer deck and a knight that would drive us just fine.


>>154583197
The point of a breaker is the damage his basic attacks do to the enemy's red bar. He needs to go last, letting everyone else build red bar before he can lower it. The only time a breaker should go first should be if he knows he can break the boss, in which case he should stamp I'll Break! I'll go first!, because it would give the rest of us more turns during break phase to attack
Other then that instance, healer should ALWAYS go first, because they need to clear out their orbs so everyone's attacks will build new orbs for them, because life orbs are rarer than others.
And you should always drive orbs you don't need to make room for orbs you want, unless you have PuPu with the ability to make it not use a turn which is much better than driving.

Play with us as see how it works out
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>>154583197
The breaker should wait for people to clear the yellow bar before attacking.

The healer should go first so they can clear out their unneeded orbs and maximize their chances of getting life orbs from the party's attacks.

People should use drives for the same reason they use drives in single player: to clear out orbs and get fire resistance if the defender hasn't used a drive.

If you had to have those things explained, I sincerely hope you're never in my party.
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>>154583486
Okay, I guess. What's the room code?
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>Maybe Luna had it right.
What does it mean?
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So is Tornado Strike worth making?
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Are FFVIII dungeons easier if you party is I'll equipped in RK or they don't go that far for fidelity?
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>>154581634
+20% like most other boosts
This is also additive with bartz's record materia which also boosts wind damage by 10% or you could stick a 20% from Cid or Thancred's RM.
The soul break just makes you do wind damage with attacks.
This shit really is a good with Faris's soul break from her bracers which reduce wind res -20%
Bartz is pretty fuck good.
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>>154583873
No. It's outclassed by the future 5* spellblades and being Aoe doesn't compensate for its low multiplier.
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>>154583923
what are you talking about? Enwind is +50% damage to wind abilities and +80% to wind SBs on top of adding wind to your normal attacks. You faggots really need to look shit up before you shit out misinformation like you know what you're talking about.
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>>154583649
21922311
Two reserved slots, open for 14 mins
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>>154583923
>20% from Cid
Shit, I really like Battleforged, but that would be nutty with his BSB.
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>>154582496
>Ifrit murders black mages
Two 4* fire PuPus should keep you just fine along with a drive, and if your healer isn't braindead you'll have barrier before every hellfire
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>krile can get +50% MAG while equipping staffs now
>her bluff now boosts 50% MAG and gives her access to Comet
My

Dick
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>>154584995
I wish we could get this already.
I really, really want my magical girl to be stronger.
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>>154584995
oh yeah, better waste those materials on a max 5* character instead of using them on someone with real staying power
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>>154584178
On my way dude

have to go thru all these movies
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>>154585241
>5* characters are automatically shit just because 6* exist
You're the same kind of retard who says to not bother rolling on RK banners because there's better stuff down the line from JP.
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>>154576943
I prefer Ivalice myself. XII was fucking beautiful
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>>154584178
can you make the room again
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>>154585429
I didn't say she's shit, but you're retarded if you think wasting limited materials on Krile is a good idea. Y'shtola was literally free and still shits on a fully upgraded Krile.
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>>154585241
>implying any of us will roll lightning, ramza, delita...etc

The best hope is for people who managed to get Garland, and you'll probably have leftovers even then.

I feel sad for the man who doesn't try to help his waifu.
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>>154585456
This desu.
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>>154585168
Stoked for the Krile and Rydia buffs personally. Rydia's aura thing looks cool as heck, and she gets goddamn Meteor.
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>>154585549
Just because the shitty cat was free in JP doesn't mean she's going to be free here.
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>>154585626
This is a new krile buff even beyond the original one.

AKA proof that gumi knows she's best girl.
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>>154575582
> All 3 MMOs specifically recently have funded XV into being a thing.

I keep seeing people say this but they never back it up with any evidence, is this actually true or purely assumption? Could you link some proof about it?
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>>154585831
They probably get more of their money from merchandise and that shitty restaurant than they do from MMOs.

Also mobile games.
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>>154583486
>explorer
How did it feel getting your shit cucked in by Slayer when third batch hit?
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>>154582496
I have a royal guard with taunts if you want to take a crack at it, though if your max hp is too low you might end up a corpse anyway.
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>>154585567
oh please, as if those characters are the only ones that are going to get upgrades. Of course more characters will be added, and I guarantee there will be more easily accessible characters who will get a better deal out of this than Krile.
>>154585673
Did I say she is (though I'd say chances are good she will)? I was clearly talking about the JP version. You'd have to be braindead to be planning to augment Krile in global when by the time we get this feature, tons more characters will have gotten this shit, you will have completely different units (most likely someone better than Krile) and we'll know just how hard these materials are to get so you can actually make an informed decision. I don't see any scenario where Krile will be worth augmenting unless the materials are abundant.
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>>154585984
It hurts.
But considering a slight breeze can kill them I'll make my peace with it.
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Someone carry me through multiplayer Mobius. My deck isnt optimized yet, still working on that, but I have a max 4* Water Pupu, max 3* Fafnir, and the Yuna card...
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FFBE producer Hiroki Fujimoto on the difference between JP and GL:

>I think the greatest difference is the A.R.P.P.U. It is the average amount of money that users will spend. It’s much higher in Japan, it is actually about three times higher in Japan.

This is why GL will try to jew us hard. This is why there is no end in sight to the jewry.
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>>154585831
Here's a slide from their Financial Report at the end of last financial quarter. They noted in it that the MMOs as well as the mobile games are a steady stream of revenue that helps keep them making "HD Games" of which they labeled XV under.

>>154585915
Merch doesn't do too well, mainly due to the high price tag. That's why they do mostly limited runs through things like Figure-Arts where there's limited investment for a moderate return. The restaurant is mainly just for branding and advertisement.
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>>154587132
current ARPPU for all? or the current ARPPU during the first few months in JP?
and there's like more people in GL, ARPPU will definitely be lower, I want a total income number.
otherwise it looks like he's just making excuses.
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>>154587132
Maybe if we had a chance at getting half of the crazy shit the JP version has people would be more enticed to spend money to get units.

For fuck's sake their number of godly/worth having units is over twice the number of Global.
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>>154587901
How would more people playing GL significantly affect average revenue per paying user?
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>>154588097
JP has smaller users but those small people spend their money a lot.
now GL has a lot of users, but those people spent a little bit of money here and there.
now if you only count the ARPPU JP will definitely be higher, but if you only count the overall income total it might not be much of a different.
at the very least, I think the three times higher is definitely an exaggeration.
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What ability is the best for inflicting stop?
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>>154588818
What game? RK? Stop BLM skill.
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>>154574593
>usually have no idea what's going of
Probably because they rarely talk about the game itself and are more concerned with their ERP and drama.

>>154574897
>I'll never understand this "WoW clone" crap.
>MMOs existed before WoW and WoW is basically a clone of those.
WoW introduced a formula that just "clicked" with audiences and is the foundation for almost all MMOs since its inception. Before WoW, MMOs were quite different and followed the Everquest model, or experimented with funky things since they were still a new genre.
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>>154587996
Give it time, global's only been out for 2 months. Like a year from now, global will likely have every single unit JP has. Except for the obscure crossover characters.
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>>154587091
Use 3 ability cards to buy Fat Chocobo, and maybe another 3 to buy Moogle.

Find the Grudge cards that share the lesser versions of those abilities, augment them to 3*, then spend two hours grinding them in Shrine of Trials.

Fuse them to your new cards, use the Cactuars you got to level them to 26.

Throw them, your Yuna and Fafnir on and carry people through 2* Ifrit all day long
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>>154574593
The best place to figure out stuff in XIV is here or if there is a thread up on /v/.
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>>154588969
WoW Babby detected.
Dark Age of Camelot would like a word with you, it was everything WoW was with INFINITELY better PvP, but they didn't have Blizzards infinite funding, elder-god tier marketing and the lore already provided for the games world.
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>>154574593
Ask any question about XIV, I'll give as best of a direct answer as I can.
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>>154588818
If you're thinking about halting rumba, you should probably pass on it. I've heard it's maybe useful for the nightmare tonberry fight, but it's a lot easier to just hone the stop spell to a higher level since it doesn't last very long on the bosses that need it for a target score.

>>154589412
Whether it's fair or not, whether something is considered a clone is going to be based on what most people heard of first. People still occasionally insist that Warhammer ripped off Warcraft, rather than the other way aroud. It might not be fair, but WoW is still going to be what everyone thinks of as the standard-bearer of MMOs.
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>>154589870
Nah, I just need something for the V Ultimate target score
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>>154590567
Yeah, the stop spell works then. It works more than it fails, but still be wary of that counter curaja, since 6k heals are a real bitch to deal with.
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in BE if I'm running 3 attackers what am I supposed to do for a third esper? chizuru and artemios already have ifrit and golem ffs
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>>154589183
thanks buddy
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>>154590963
That's what Bartz's burst mode with his cloak is for.
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>Always hear about how CoD will be good later
>My Fencer friend is doing double my damage right now with the same exact build but with Enhancer
How long will I have to wait until CoD chan is as good as Chizuru and Fencer ;_;
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>>154591689
CoD is and will always be trash. You were meme'd.
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>>154591689
Do you have Armor Break and Barrage on her
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>>154592053
Yeah they're both max level and Fencer has Barrage from a TM I believe.
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>>154590567
Remember to bring something to dispell his regen and be sure to have a fuckton of damage if you ever let him out of stop, he will heal a lot in a very short time as you attack him. If you don't keep those things in mind life will be shit.
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Avoid playing with any f these faggots if you don't want to waste your time
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>>154592192
Oh, well she's gonna do more damage then. A vanilla Fencer does much less damage.

CoD really comes into her own once she gets her 6*
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>>154592295
Well hurry up and give me her 6* what are you waiting for
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SQEX decided to let the following FFRK Card to augment up to 4*

Aerith & Tifa
Deshi (Tyro)
Vanille & Fang
Warrior of Lights
Tidus & Jecht

They were once a extremely powerful card that we don't let them augment because of balancing issue but after the develop team's discuss, we decided to open up the augment.
It may take up to 2 days to fully patch the augment for these Cards.
We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

About the 3 Summon Tickets refund from pulling FFRK Cards, the limited time will be extended to 13 Sept 2016 23:59 GMT+8

We are very sorry that we gave out wrong information before the event released, we will ensure the same condition won't happen anymore.
Thanks for your continue support to Mobius FINAL FANTASY.
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Weak Pattern:
>18% Firaga (BLK: 410% Fire Magic Dmg)
>18% Blizzaga (BLK: 410% Ice Magic Dmg)
>18% Thundaga (BLK: 410% Lightning Magic Dmg)
>16% Firaga (BLK: AoE - 270% Fire Magic Dmg)
>15% Blizzaga (BLK: AoE - 450% Ice Magic Dmg)
>15% Thundaga (BLK: AoE - 300% Lightning Magic Dmg)

Why is his AoE Blizzaga so much stronger than literally anything else?
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ded general, ded fantasy
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>>154590963
>bring stop honed to 6 casts for the ultimate thinking ill be okay
>it lasts for about one quarter nanosecond

eesh didn't take that too seriously
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>>154593075
6 stops is more than enough to kill Omniscient. Just chain cast it every turn. Wind Jump+Aerora Blade+any SSB
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>>154592610
>Aerith & Tifa
Aw yiss. Card is not great now, but would be awesome as 4*
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>>154592659
This is the same event as Mr. Monk Kick, so there probably isn't any reasoning behind it.
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>>154592659
>26.7% monk kick
>20% dancing blade
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>>154594024
Use mitigation man, it does like no damage
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>>154580371
Cloak is pretty freakin' amazing. Quit being a crybaby.
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>>154594138
You can't mitigate shit if you're dead before anything goes off. If you can't fit in an IC Medica/Mitigation, you're more often than not utterly fucked.
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>>154592262
2* ifrit?
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>>154594138
Counting the times I had to S/L before I could get mitigation up, he used it 9 times in a row on me. Once I could defend against it, it was much easier, but it would have been awfully tough without native wall and Gilgamesh's BSB.
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>>154594386
You just need a hastega in party. If you've got a hastega you can run Shield RW. After Protectga and Grimoire, you take almost no damage from Bartz.
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>>154591535

Siren. Not the best choice but at least you wont be gimping your mages.
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No fencer but this banner has been pretty good so far. Bart Terra and tree so far
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>>154592610
They should've made them augmentable later in the future rather than now, but at least they're responsive to player concerns.
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>>154594710
Friend, did you literally ignore my whole post? Hastega won't do shit if the caster just got double kicked and died before getting it off.

The problem is not surviving before mitigation, it's surviving BEFORE mitigation and rolling favorable enough ATB while he rolls shitty ATB.
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>>154594024
More like fucking 100% Monk Kick for 3 turns and might as well let him start with full ATB while we are at it.
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>>154595446
you could also restart until he just uses a regular attack first, there's almost a 10% chance for each of the first two actions instead of 100% like it should have been
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>>154595604
RIP your sanity.
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Welp, I guess I'm doing it. Can't turn down love.
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>>154596030
I would've told you to pull. Lots of decent relics to be had.
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>>154596030
What sort of tumblr shit is this?
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>>154594989
Nothing but Vivis and Sabins for me. I used up all my luck on a 1st pull WoL.
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>>154593046
Bald Sephiroth, bland post
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>>154594695
Yeah. I was the only one who brought a Fire pupu and the support didn't bring a barrier, only faith. Even when I drived, he would 1shot some of the with his AoE.
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>>154596908
WTF are you on about son? This is literally 8-ball. You know, the toy that has been around since the 50's
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>>154588818
High mind+BLM stop
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>>154596910
same. Except I pulled another Kefka. Game wants me to get Ribbon. So I guess I'm going to TM farm with 3 kefka's now and get that done hopefully pretty quick
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>>154595446
That's normal. Just S/L. That's been a thing since the game started. If he gets two kicks off before you've got grimoire and protectga up, it was just bad ATB.
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>>154597735
Or you could wait and get 3 ribbons and absolutely destroy the Petrify meta.

It's not like current content needs ribbons yet anyway.
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Hey guys

The rabbit foot in the mogcake event for BE is a shitty item, right? 7% res to ailments is a joke, right?
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>>154598536
It's trash, but how could you not figure that out yourself?
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>>154597881
ug...maybe. I downloaded an emulator, so I'll see how long it takes to get that 5% with scripts running
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Why are people in Mobius Multiplayer so bad?
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>>154598536
It's absolute trash.

Even Cat's Bell is better. It's basically between Silver Armlet and Cat's Bell.

>>154598802
37 days straight.

But the only use for ribbons in JP is to combat Exdeath spam in the arena. None of the boss content even comes close to needing a ribbon user.
So you have at least 6 months to do the grind, probably more.
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Is this a good TM farming team or should I wait for better units? Kefka, Luna, Shantotto, Terra, WoL.
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>>154598846
still new man, and I doubt they read the multiplayer help section too
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>>154598968
Remove WoL, his TM is actual trash.

If you have literally anyone better you should use them instead.
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>>154598846
The general population that plays F2P mobile games is dumb, add on the fact that this game has auto mode and doesn't explain a lot of mechanics and you get 99% of the population in MP.
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>>154599064
I have Golbez but Meteor seems like an objectively weaker spell than Ultima and I probably won't be running 2 mages unless good content in the future requires it.
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>>154598846
playerbase reflects the game
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>>154599295
Anybody who can use meteor well will eventually get meteor or some other alternative, so not really great either.

But WoL's TM is overwritten by 90% of buffs, so it's only useful if you don't bring a buffer or are in a super long exploration.

And even then it's only a marginal boost.
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>>154599785
How about Juggler's Sticky Fingers? I pulled it just now.
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I'm sure this has been posted a million times, but is there a way to play KHUX on emulator? It always crashes when I try it in Bluestacks.
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>ffv synergy on point
>dps calc'd the numbers, im hella good to go
>monk kick
>monk kick
>alright be cool, u have an A team, anon
>monk kick
>monk kick
>repeat for 30 s/l
swear to god id kill this nigga and his whole faggy family
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>>154599994
That's a great one.

Generally outclassed by Shantotto's in the long run, but it's considered S-rank in Japan.
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>>154600105
>>154590383
/khg/ is that way
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>>154600164
It's fucking easy. Why are people complaining about this.
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>>154600427
Yeah, it's fucking easy. But only after you get over the initial Monk Kick hurdle. It's not fun to s/l until Butz finally lets you put up full mitigation before hitting you with a second kick.
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>>154600164
i tried being clever and defended against the first two kicks but he did another one and it killed 3 people =(
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>>154600251

I tried there and that place is a shit-show right now. KH has enough FF in it for people in this thread to know the answer to my question so I thought I would give it a shot.
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>>154600427
shut up dude. i have an instant medica and he still manages to kill off guys before i get full mitigation off
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>>154600709
>>154600105
Well I played it on Bluestacks 1 fine. Are you using Bluestacks 2?
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>test out leddit's nightmare lucky draw simulator
>over 60 simulation runs, get 25% as 0 5*
G5* can't come soon enough.
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>>154600908

I don't know the difference...
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>>154600709
Try Nox.
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>>154601056
There are 2 Bluestacks. 1 is newer and is what I called Bluestacks 2. I think the Bluestacks site only makes you download Bluestacks 2 now.
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A few questions about supports in RK, please bear with me for a moment.

When a boss has mixed damage, do you bring both MBreakdown+PBreakdown?
When it's only a type of damage do you leave ABreakdown @ home?
How do you fit in FB in that?
Do you bring a second support?
When would you use ABreakdown?
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>>154601913
FB + PBD or MBD on Ramza. The only time I would bring a second support would be if I had some crazy good SSBs that i wanted to use.
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>>154601913
Don't bring both power and magic breakdown. just whichever the enemy's AOE attacks are. Always take full break since it stacks with the breakdown.

You only need 2 supports if they both have incredible SB. For example, Ramza with Shout and Faris with BSB would be a case in the FF5 event.

Power breakdown you only use on pure physical enemies, but you're better off just doing armor/mental breakdown to do more damage.
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>>154602216
>Power breakdown you only use on pure physical enemies, but you're better off just doing armor/mental breakdown to do more damage.

I'm not sure if I follow this, is physical less dangerous that you can afford no bringing PBD?

How about when the enemy has AoE both Magic and Physical?
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>>154594989
how the fuck did you get that much lapis
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>>154602547
There are a few reasons why he suggested it.

PowBD reduces atk less than MagBD reduces mag (-40% vs -50%).

The RK damage formula changes after a certain number of atk points such that every point of atk is weighed less in the final dmg calculation. The same is true for mag, but the number of mag points to change the formula is much higher - meaning reducing mag will have a larger effect on final dmg than reducing atk all else being equal.

magic multipliers are higher than physical attack multipliers generally. meaning they are usually more dangerous.

most bosses with mixed attacks have aoe magic and single target physical.

if an enemy has both aoe phys and mag, you will still want full break+magbd for the reasons listed above.
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>>154603343
By not spending it, obviously.
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>>154600164
I got by on my first try, but I have Sentinel's Grimoire, Shout, Princess' Favor and Flamberge.
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>>154596910
>game keeps throwing sabin at me
>I didn't even like Sabin in his game
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How do I farm TMs?
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>>154601913
breaker has one of the breakdowns and my healer has the the other as a shellaga or protectaga
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>>154603709
I remember reading that physical multipliers are lower because physical itself is much more effective due to how things are calculated, hence why the mag cap being so insanely high, to equate to physical effectiveness, at some point.

The way you put it, makes it sounds like it's only worth to PBD U/U+ bosses, but Physical is just as dangerous as magic m8, people just often don't stack res/ele def and hence get fuckered by majicks.
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Just 2*ed Golem in BE, wasn't paying attention while grinding and used a random summon.

>Golems hand grabs the edge of the screen and rips it away

ok, that was way fucking cooler than I expected any animation in BE to be
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>>154604556
Wait, if you 2* them, their animation would be different?
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>>154604770
yup, Siren is hotter
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>>154604770
Yes. Don't you have a friend who has a 2* Esper?
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>>154604398
If it has BD and Shellga/Protectga are you healing solely from medica?
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>>154604556
Ifrit > Golem > Ramuh > Shiva > Siren desu.
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>>154604414
only true under the soft cap. after it, they are weighed the same (^0.7) but the mag cap is higher just like for players.

you can use a damage calculator to confirm this with def/res being the same and mag/atk for enemy being the same.
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>>154589515
If you're still here, does XIV have a solid plot and ending? And is it conceivable to solo up till the endgame or are guilds and parties a thing?
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>>154605373
So it is indeed only worth to PBD U/U+? Damn, I stand corrected.
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Is Mirror of Equity really Lasswell's primary source of damage? he's 80 with Osafune and hits like an angry fly.
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>>154605739
xiv can barely be called a mmo. it's a loose collection of players playing a single player game.
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>>154605109
healer has either shellaga/protectaga and one healing skill.
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>>154606180
If that's what you meant, using your words is really not your strong suit.
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>>154606027
> single player game
I assume the story must be engaging then? Or do people just like their catgirls/boys and erp. Hope it's not the latter.
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>>154552671
Friendly reminder that there will be a maintenance in FFRK in 6 hours and 40 minutes from this post.
Spend your stamina accordingly.
The maintenance is expected to last 5 hours.
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>>154605913
nah, i mean the opposite if im not being clear. as in, if a u+ has equal chance of using magic or physical, use mbd if you can only use 1.

see the image for what i mean. i actually made a mistake for the magic vs res scenario. mag bd reduces mag by 50% or 25% after resistance, but i inputted it as 20%. this means that damage to party would be even less than what is shown.

this is assuming def/res of party is equal at 300 and that mag/atk of enemy is equal at 800.
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replace krile with fina?
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>>154606659
replace both that shit with lenna
lenna best ever
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>>154606290
breaker uses one skill
healer uses another
read the sentence.
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>>154606440
>>154606440
The story has its good parts, and the good parts are generally pretty darn good, but it also has a lot of awful filler; and I mean a lot. You're often doing a bunch of small quests just to get to the one quest that advances the plot.
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>those Trueblade and Light of the Four interrupts
>cheeky Knight Double Cut counters at the worst possible time, all the time

I'm getting Vietnam flashbacks to the Sephiroth U+ CM to be honest with you fampai
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>>154605739
Yup, still here.

It does have a solid plot and is engaging enough. If you can handle fake british, the voice cast isn't bad either.

You'll be playing solo for the majority of the time except in instanced dungeons with either a pre-made party or random people. Guilds are a thing called "Free Companies" and are there mainly for socializing with things like Housing and Exploratory Missions. There's also a carry over from XI called "Linkshells" which are a private chat room, they even have an in lore use for Linkshells too.

It's worth trying out the free trial and seeing how you feel, just know that the Executive Producer has stated before that Leveling from 1-50 is "essentially the tutorial".
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>>154606440
Story is worse than XI's.
But not the worst in the series.
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>>154607046
>breaker has one of the breakdowns and my healer has the the other as a shellaga or protectaga
>has the the other as a shellaga or protectaga
Lack of commas and awkward wording, sorry man.
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>>154607209
Syldra be like:
>Gotchu dog :^)
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>>154607264
Dude, I love XI's expansions, but let's be real. Base XI's story is not that great. The only good part is Raogrimm's part.

That and playing XI used to be quite the chore.
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>>154607567
Oh yeah, I agree with you. But I was counting Xpacs.
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323rd eternal reminder that Terra is best girl
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>>154607942
>star of david
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So the nightmare lucky is dropping this Sunday and I'm at 30mythril but I was to do another 11 pull on Gilgamesh#1. Can I get 45 totals before the BLM lucky is gone? I can still do some cores, which I am.
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>>154606659
What kind of stuff are you doing?
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>>154608496
>A week until I can cry at another 0/11
Please jewgle, have mercy, just let me have Rinoa's BSB.
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>>154608557
You're hoping for one of the rarest items in a relic pool with 70 items. You're setting yourself up for disappointment friend.
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>>154607153
> You're often doing a bunch of small quests just to get to the one quest that advances the plot.

Kinda reminds me of the endless fetch quests WoW bombards you with just to continue the story.

>>154607242
>You'll be playing solo for the majority of the time
Thanks fampai, you've done a rather good job selling it to me. I'll try it out soon.
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>>154608496
>pulling on lucky banners until confirmed 5*
Just save man.
Gilg Banner 1 is legit though. Go for it.
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>>154608680
I know.
I will still dream, because it's the only item I want.
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>>154608728
Awesome. Glad you might give it a shot. Best advice I can give is take your time, make note to your party members in a "duty finder dungeon" if you're new to it, and be vocal if you need help in game as people will help.

If you do decide to get the game in full, note that there's essentially an entire new story after you beat the initial story with what are called on the net as "The 2.X Story". It's a set of storyline quests that were added in a set of patches from patch 2.1 til 2.55 (hence "2.X"). It's about as long as the normal ARR storyline altogether. If you get Heavensward with it either by the separate expansion or in a bundle you'll get experience from these 2.X Quests that you normally wouldn't get.
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>>154606440
At least HW fixes a bit of the whole filler problem ARR had.
Would've been a real good story if the scions and fucking midget sultana stayed dead
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>>154605739>
>does XIV have a solid plot and ending? And is it conceivable to solo up till the endgame or are guilds and parties a thing?

Like others have said, XIV is basically a single player game so you can solo it. You do need to do group content to progress but you sign up to a Duty Finder and it matches you with randoms. These randoms could be on other servers as well so most people treat each other as smart AI NPCs and only really say greetings and farewells.

ARR story is maybe a 7/10. It has some really amazing parts to it that are worth 9/10 I would say, but a lot of the story is padded out because of the whole MMO leveling. So inbetween the amazing parts you will get generic MMO quests that give small bits of lore to you.

Heavensward story on the other hand is absolutely amazing. There really wasn't a dull moment for me. There was 1 section that was generic MMO questing with some Moogles, but that doesn't last long and it's back to the great story telling from before.
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>>154609717
Whoops sorry meant to reply to
>>154607153
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>almost posted something super unrelated from a different general

wew lads
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They extended the mats gathering event till the 17th.
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>>154610173
post it anyway
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Is Nox supposed to be in Japanese? I can't read anything.
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>>154610260
Guess I'll have time to get that 20%mp then
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>>154611192
Chinese.
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>>154611501
Any way to make it English?
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>>154611697
Gear Icon at the top

you'll see this, then change it to english? hope that would work.
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How's the iOS port of FFT for a first playthrough of the game? I need something to play at work.
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>>154612278
It's fine.
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>>154602191
>tfw mist overload fran has been carrying me through the game but i got shout
i want to bring them both ;-;
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>>154610279
if you insist lol

inb4 >league of legends
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oh shit we have to lv to 99 to get mc3 RM? fuck i have no eggs
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>>154610260
Huh, kinda neat. Guess I'll get the HP and MP materia then.
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>>154613021
christ this cancer explains why the general is shit
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>>154613021
> Gold V
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>>154613021
Homo homini lupus

>>154613876
Hello brave memer
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>>154613021
>league after season 3
Literally the biggest of keks.
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>>154613021
>sonic says 2slow
wow. you really like memes huh?
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>>154614153
Why does samus have a sword and dressed like saber?
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>>154614153
Saber is looking cute here.
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>Onions
>>
FUCK BARTZ THIS IS BULL SHIIIIIIIIIT
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>>154613021
>Level 7 MLG Sniper
Time to update your resume
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>>154614929
Easy fight
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>>154615141
fuck you it isn't
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>>154614153
Still better than most of Amano's human art.
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>>154615174
It is. Easy CM too.
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>>154615264
I guess if you whaled your way to BSBs and SSBs
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>>154615264
Weak bait.
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How do I sign into a google play account on Nox? There's no option for it anywhere.
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>>154615306
>whaled
>when the game drowns you in mythril
Pulling for this game is literally the easist gacha game I've ever pulled for.
If you don't have good items you've literally just started or you pulled on shitty banners.
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>hoping for a ranger class in mobius
>first pull is dork night (apparently the best ability-focused warrior right now)
>second pull is white mage (best healbot in the game)
Desire detector is real.
I just wanted to break shit in multi. Maybe the 3 compensation tickets on the next patch will make my dream come true.
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>>154576943
I thought set pieces would refer to the scenario, but your mention of locations make me think otherwise, what exactly are these set pieces you speak so highly of?
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>>154614154
you can have a clan tag, and i got 2slow when it was first implemented. sonic says just happens to go well with it
>>154613876
hey now senpai i got promoted right after
>>154615091
kek
>>154614153 >>154613853
lolgen is run solely on the power of waifus, here's two good reasons as to why it's still going

oh i mean final fantasy
FFIII is the worst 2d FF
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>>154603343
I started playing before global release and had already saved like 5k by the time it actually released. Until daily half pulls I didn't pull shit so 50 per day and 100 per day from their celebration stuff and 200 per day for a few have obviously added up.

I might do a 10 pull on fencer's last day if I don't get her from daily pulls. I really want her, no 6* be damned
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I hope we get a poll asking what we want for the Revenge event, Bartz / Caius / Cagnazzo sounds like a good trio to have tbch lads.

Even better if this ends up on a lucky draw we'd have a good chance for some really good stuff too.

Even better is that after all the power creep the only U+ on that list that won't still gape our anus open is Cagnazzo.
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>Multiplayer Quistis
http://pastebin.com/acyEQmcQ

o fuck m8
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>>154616104
you will probably pull a thief next
it's a ranger class but not a breaker in multiplayer, it's an attacker
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So this upcoming lucky banner will have VIII relics? I'm hoping I get something for Squall cause he's been pulling his weight even without SBs
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>>154616312
jesus christ your post literally screams "seeking validation"
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>>154616548
I wouldn't be surprised if that actually happened.
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>>154615521
Please respond. Every time I try to install BE it says I need to login to my google play account and google play has no fucking options for it.
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>>154616708
are you sure it doesn't scream >replying to my (you)s? something something projecting if you want to whine more
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>>154616553
>will the upcoming black mage lucky banner have Squall relics?
Sure m8
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>>154617193
Look I just heard about Rinoa and figured VIII was involved, I wasnt sure, so I asked, sue me
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>>154617025
Did you try manually downloading the apk instead of using the play store?
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>>154617437
Don't know how to do that and I'm too frustrated to do googling right now. I'm about ready to give up.
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>>154617910
Just go to apkpure or something and get the apk file directly.
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>>154617025
I just press cancel twice and it lets me play the game fine without Google Play.
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So how do pulls work exactly? I pulled a 5* Tits McGee today, but not before the crystal cycled from blue to gold to rainbow. Was it Fencer all along and it just did a surprise upgrade every step of the way, or did the unit it originally was become Fencer upon upgrade? It certainly was never a 3* Fencer, since that doesn't even exist.
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>>154619747
It just means you would have pulled a 3* unit, but the game made it a 4* unit. And then a 5* unit. That's really rare.
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So what's /ffg/'s opinion on CC Echoes of Time?
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>>154621839
the last time I asked, Ring of Fates is better seems to be the opinion iirc
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Persona 5 spoilers are leaking, Goodbye /ffg/
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>>154622948
rip
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>>154622948
Adachi is the killer
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>>154620214
Alright, so there are two checks then, one to determine rarity and the other to determine who it could be based on the rarity. Makes sense.
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>>154623710
That's right. This is why rate up banners on base 4* units aren't as big as they sound, because the chance of getting a base 4* in the first place is low.
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So I just dropped my phone and the buttons to move between applications are busted. Can I somehow log into RK on bluestacks for a few days?
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>>154624304
No you're fucked
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I'm a returning newbie that's all too late and a bit lost in Mobius. I got a water pupu to 4* (dropped waters are only dropping 3*, however??). Should I try to get all pupus as high was I can? What the hell is up with the UFO? It can't even be augmented, am I supposed to go buy the Wind force card to get some use out of it or am I missing some detail to make them useful?

Sorry if it's been asked already.
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Tomorrow morning i'll have enough mythril for the V Banner, maybe i'll finally get a BSB? Probably not
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>>154625573
You can use the UFO for easily leveling up Gusion, otherwise just sell it for extra gil. Best seed farming right now is having 3 4* Pupu of the type you need, it'd be best to get as much as you can.
>dropped waters are only dropping 3*, however??
Yeah, the highest enemies drop is 3*. Doesn't matter though, since all that matters is being able to fuse the ability.
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>>154626485
All of that was all kinds of disappointing to hear, but mostly because my job doesn't use wind. Just expected that boss drop to have a bit more use.

One more thing, how are the 400 series streets better than the old ones? They seem a bit tougher and they grand a bit more EXP, I think. Anything else? Notable drop rate increase or something?
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>>154626735
It still might be useful since you will probably pull a job in the future with wind.
The advantage of the 400's is that because they're more difficult, it's easier to get higher scores, meaning a higher seed bonus. I can come close to 1mil points on a decent run there.
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>>154625985
You too can be like me
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>>154627506
Don't, you're gonna jinx me
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>>154627506
>103 gems

Don't listen, he's only lucky because he gave in to the Jewgle.
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>>154627648
dollar a banner :^)
That I like, at least. I didn't spend a dollar on the 2nd V banner or the Mobius banner.
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>>154627165
This is a bit of a struggle for me right now. Because I'm sporting a billion fucking blue aliens on my deck "hard" mode is full on satan red, while normal is baby green. No middleground...
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>>154627860
Yeah, just stick to the lower ones until you build up a decent deck/skillseeds. Hard is always red, it scales with your level - that's what makes it great for farming.
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>>154628219
Oh... Sad for now. Alright, any tips floating around on how to aim for a higher score for multiplier?
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>>154628420
Best I've found is to soak up as much damage as possible. Hades is great for this, since you can generally stay around full health all the time.
Other than that, just search for stuff that lots tons of damage for whatever class you're using.
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>>154629384
>just search for stuff that lots tons of damage for whatever class you're using.
Did you mean that [does] tons of damage? Am I trying to get wrecked? I'm Whitemage.
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>Encouraging people to play XV on the weak PS4
What the fuck is Tabata playing at
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>>154629808
tgs livestream?
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>>154629808
>implying xbone is any better.
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>>154629759
>Did you mean that [does] tons of damage?
Yeah, it's late.
White mage isn't great for this since you have a low health pool, but your ult is great for healing. Driving orbs builds a lot of ult charge, see if you can survive with just one actual attack and drive the other two elements.
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I honestly didn't even notice these lines, among many others, when i first played this.
I swear it feels like some cheesy cartoon.
>>
I can afford it, just trying to decide if I want to hone Dark Zone to 3 or not.
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>>154630051
>feels like some cheesy cartoon
that's what makes V so fun
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>>154629808
The Bone is considerably worse and telling people to buy the PS4 Pro that was literally announced just a few days ago would be pretty pointless.
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>>154622948
It's a high-school dating sim, mate. It's not like anybody cares about the plot.
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>>154631015
No kidding. Plus being a persona game, it's super formulaic. I probably could have guessed the plot progression from promotional material alone
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>>154629975
>>154630448
What I'm getting at is they should be advertising a PS4 Pro bundle since that'll bring out the best of the game
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>>154631102
P1 and P2 were pretty unique, but from P3 onwards, yeah. Modern anime was a mistake.
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>>154631154
The plans were made long in advance and XV was originally supposed to be out before the PS4Pro.
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>>154616408
I hope they put U+ Bartz in instead of Fagnazzo.
The IV banners for that event were shit and we could get 3 more BSBs in the lucky draw that way.
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>>154616408
>implying any of those were hard
The only fights in this game that are hard at the time of their release were Bahamut Sin. Even Fragment dungeon Ifrit was easy enough. Bahamut Sin was also only difficult because it was before they changed the actions taken medals to be more lenient.
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>Accept celebration lapis
>Lapis count doesn't actually go up
Ok.
>>
>entire team is squishy as fuck
>praying to rngesus for a bulky hitter like WoL or Leo
>all I've gotten recently from 250 lapis pulls are sabin and Russell.
>russell
>fucking russell
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>>154632593
Is Russell still bugged?
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>>154632593
I hear you, brother. I just got fucking Russell too.
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>>154632729
who would know
who uses him
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>>154632593
At least you didn't get a Bedile
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>>154632593
>3* turns into 4*
>>
TGS stream over. Got a few short trailer clips from several SE games and pissed off Gladio with a new scar. Aside from that:
>shit stream quality
>Kojima allowed to talk while having absolutely nothing to show
>celebrity appearances in games
>VR waifus
For fuck's sake, Japan. I'm never complaining about Western conferences again.
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>>154632940
>>154632803
>>154632764
>Having the ways of a gladiator beaten into him from an early age, Russell died in the arena without ever experiencing much human emotion.
>Russell died in the arena without ever experiencing much human emotion.
I
WONDER
FUCKING
WHY
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>>154633037
>Kojima allowed to talk while having absolutely nothing to show

He REALLY is overrated.

>open-world

HAHA
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>>154633151
forgot my image.
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>>154633189
Open world can be great. Unfortunately, Kojima's design excels in tight, highly detailed spaces. The best he could do would be to copy the style of Deus Ex games (large urban areas with lots of stealth options and story).
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>forgot to get my daily login from RK since all I did was a quick daily before the day changed over before going to work
>can't do it now because I forgot maintenance was happening at this time
I blame mogcakes for this. Thanks for making me feel retarded and making me miss my first free mythril ever.
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forgot that today's patch day

that's 160 stamina i'm not getting back
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>>154633645
You also missed a shitty accessory today from the Mobius event.
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>>154634272
As if I didn't have enough of those already. What's it do?
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>>154616532
>Quistis: "... No leadership qualities... Failed instructor... Perhaps they're right..."

also creeps on her students, is generally gross
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>>154634314
Confuse/Slow resist and like +10 MND.

But it's FFI synergy, which I guess is a nice novelty.
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>>154616532
>10%: Bad Breath (303% of Poison, 10% of Blind/Silence/Sleep/Confuse/Slow, 5% of Berserk/Stop, 1% of Petrify) to all targets

oh that's goofy time alright
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>>154634272
>>154634513

slow resistance is really really good

>>154634539

but wait, there's more

>8%: Ultra Waves (250% NAT magical non-elemental damage to all targets; 15% of inflicting Confuse)
>Interrupt: GF: Doom Train (999% of magical poison damage to one target [targets character with highest HP]; 303% of poison/silence/blind/confuse)
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I'm not asking much. I just want my big tiddie veera. My party doesn't exactly even need her.
I did not want this Lani.
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>>154634934
>wants big titties
>gets big titties
>complains
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>>154634616
>slow resistance is really really good
Eh, it's only minor resistance, so you're still 50-50 on a 100% slow attack.

It's useful if there's a boss with confuse and slow I guess, but that's hella situational.
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>>154635238

aoe slow is generally ~30%
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>Gladio with a new scar
>despondent Ignis with sunglasses and a cane
Oh boy. They are not going to survive this.
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Reminder for RKJP players
In about 24 hours the OST release dungeon will start, along with it a lucky draw for characters that USE INSTRUMENT WEAPONS, this inclues Onion Knight
On 16th Orbfest, new Mog Selection and special missions(along with 1/2 stamina campaign) will begin
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>>154635621

>blind Ignis

this makes me sad
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>JMV got a ton of bug fixes.

It almost doesn't suck now!
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>>154635621
As long as best twink stays fine I don't care.

Actually, it would be really cool if he got dismembered a little bit. Imagine the amputee doujins.

Imagine.
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FFRK Global banners are translated up to Larsa event except the Double BSB Fest banner and Gold Fes banner.
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>>154636875
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reminder to never remove your oldest RW once you can. it'd wreck your mojo
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>>154636885
So this is just more shit to hoard like rosetta stones, right?
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>>154637024
Looks like I caught up on my MC2s just in time.
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>>154636875
Fest begins on the 25th.
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>>154637037
>RW

*follower

>>154637048

nah you just buy them for veggies
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>>154637103
I wonder how many people going to skip the fest for something like picture related.
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>>154637169
I'm skipping it for G5 and Onion
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>>154637169
I will. Still need that fucking Twin Lance.
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>>154637169

probably quite a few. i'm likely to.
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>>154636278
It was hinted in Noctis' dream/vision from the very beginning of the game (Ignis had a visor of some kind and scars on his face), but yeah.
>journos who played the first two chapters say the party is pretty tight, Noctis and Ignis in particular
>they even cook together during camping
>tfw this happens
This is the first time a main party member got permanently maimed in FF, no?
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>>154637169
>Overstrike

yikes
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RIP half-price Nightmare Lucky Draws?
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>>154637486

well yeah, we knew that those were changing format to 50/unlimited around here. sucks, but whatcha gonna do?`
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>>154637486
>tfw incompetent Dena fucks up and it's unlimited half price
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How's my team looking, been playing for a couple of weeks, anyone I should swap out?
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>>154637729

just like my pusher
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>>154637738
use garland and krile instead of anzelm and bedlie
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>>154637729
So collabs confirmed?
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>>154637486
How can they call it a Lucky Draw if it's full price?

I thought that term meant specifically half-price. Now I don't even know what to believe.
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>>154637887
More generally, it's a "Lucky Draw" because you can't draw any off-banner stuff or generic shit, the only 5* that will be on them is character relics.
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>Zozo clock puzzle
>almost everyone's a lying sack of shit
>fuck it, brute force that shit
>it's 6:10:50, logic being that it's the set of times that no one ever mentions

At least I got the Chainsaw.
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>>154637887
I guess now they count as lucky for being guaranteed SSB and up
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>>154637961
>fuck it, brute force that shit

this is how dumb /ffg/ is
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>>154637961
That's how you're supposed to do it. Nobody in Zozo tells the truth except for that one salesman.
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>>154637887
Lucky Draws are defined by having a specific pool of 5*s to draw from rather than the half-price part.
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awoo~
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Decent BE banner when? The last one worth pulling on was the WoL one.
On the other hand though, it's kinda nice not being tempted to pull.
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Whats the fucking point of Poach?

I wasn't getting anything from it that I wasn't getting from drops or Steal. And I can't find any evidence online that there EVER will be all game.

It's XII, btw.
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>>154639581
>everything is suffering after you leave Hammerhead
At least we got those Cidney webms.
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>>154640078
Just chain stuff if you want rare shit. I don't think I've ever used poach in any of my playthroughs.
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>>154640078
Poach is a guaranteed drop and gives better items than normal drops early on. It becomes useless once you get the monographs, but before that it has its uses.
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And that day, Ashe just casually shat on figuratively everything.
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>>154640460
>her regular outfit that she wears all the damn time is a BSB

Sure, why the fuck not.
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>>154640265
Everything I've gotten with it so far though I've also gotten with Steal. Which is far easier to pull off, and lets you keep the EXP.
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>>154640624
erm, this month*
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Oh hey, we're actually getting Gold Fes.
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>>154640914
Yep, fucking dope.
What was the reason for us not to get it again?
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>>154640964
Because it was connected to Golden Week in Japan, I'm pretty sure.
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>>154630051
>save golem
>"thanks a ton! I'd rock if i could roll with you guys"
this game is fucking great
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>>154640067
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>>154640067
Nevermind. Just found this.
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>>154641351
>had Chorizo and Lenna
>really wanted CoD and WoL
>already pulled CoD over the weekend
I guess I'll pass on this one.
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the ATK soft cap for JP is now ~700.42
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>>154641351
>>154641369
>no Exdeath
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>>154641434
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>>154641351
>>154641369
>already have most of them
I knew this would happen the moment the poll was posted, but it's still kinda disappointing. Would have preferred Cecil or Zidane. Oh well, at least other players get a chance to catch up.
I'm probably gonna pull on this anyway a couple times for a tiny shot at WoL.
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Simulator for the instrument lucky draw in JP
http://altema.jp/ffrk/gacha/196
Well anon? Will you roll OK's relics?
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>>154641824
But none of OK's relics are instruments, how does this lucky draw work exactly?
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>>154641965
If a character can equip instruments, he/she is in the draw pool
This also means Ramza
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>>154641410
>>154641571
Out of them I already have Lenna and don't really need WoL thanks to my Cecil and Vaan, but I'll roll like mad in hopes of getting Chizuru and/or CoD.
Please RNG don't let me down.
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>>154641965
I got Platinum Sword and Fire Lash
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BLM lucky draw relics: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1grHiKVInpeJCBGc4Ee3pse3CdtMu8Aj4xzLYQykkBjA/edit#gid=420017575
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>>154642015
Oh, I see. And it seems like they're all SSBs or better.
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>>154642131
>And it seems like they're all SSBs or better
that has been a thing for months in JP's lucky draws, the summer draw we got in GL had that too
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>>154642102
Goddamn, almost all of these are hideous. I'm forcing myself to pull on this anyway.
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>>154642267
but the 10 or so that ain't are pretty fucking dank.
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>JP is sticking SG and Shout on literally every Choice banner
>Global had this buff banner
I'm glad they're aware of what the people want.
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>>154642102
>Healing Grimoire is the only E-rank relic here
I wish they'd just get rid of this and Cyclone Grimoire already. We don't have to be reminded of it every time.
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>first there were soul breaks
>then super soulbreaks, much stronger and outclass most normal SB's
>then burst soul breaks, replacing the useless attack and defend commands with meh-HOLY SHIT moves
>then Overflow soul breaks that break damage cap but dont really do anything else
What will be next? Ultimate soul breaks based of final weapons for each character? Giving new commands like bursts but also breaking damage cap?
>>154642363
Don't jinx it, they might want to use that as excuse for getting rid of SG/Shout on Vol2/3 and Mog2
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>>154641369
Going to do a 10+1 for CoD and WoL, at least extra lennas and kefkas can be used to TM farm so it's a pretty safe banner as long as I don't get like 11 sabins
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>>154642363
Still waiting for that guaranteed 5*.
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>>154642724
Wonder if this banner is actually a lapis/ticket sink as the FFT and BF banners are coming soon, not to mention Lightning.
That said, I'm still gonna do daily pulls for Lenna though.
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>>154643271
All of those characters except for Lenna get a 6* at some point (and Lenna herself might get one soonish), so I don't think so. They could have done better if they were making a trap banner.
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>>154640642
Stealing and chaining is generally far more useful, yes. You can unlock Poach for one character just in case.
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>>154643271
BF Banner is not worth it until the second one, having a 5* Tilith makes no difference as you will want to pull for Refia before she gets her 6* upgrade anyway. But it probably is a lapis sink before the first Lightning banner with Ludmille and the first FFT banner, hopefully I will manage to recover enough lapis to do a 10+1 for Ludmille and dailies on the FFT banner.
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RK's back. We got a bunch of buffs including Celes' Knight 5 and Ingus' much-needed WHM 4 and Combat 4, time to load up those vaults!
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>>154640552
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>>154641351
>>154641369
Preparing my mind and body for that 15~20 TMR increase on Ribbon and nothing else.
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>>154644949
>for that 15~20 TMR increase on Ribbon and nothing else
It's better if you think of it as quadrupling/quintupling your TM grinding speed for the Ribbon on top of that desu.
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>>154644562
>Started putting extra 3* and 4* accessories in the vault
>Ended up with 106/150
Guess I should start selling some of the single stat-up ones.
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>>154645518
Sell off the accessories that don't boost ATK or MAG or don't give an ailment/element resist. Some people like to hang on to the +HP ones though, and you should hold on to your +30 MND accessories.
You can even sell off a lot of the ATK/MAG ones depending on how many +30 ones you're packing.
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>>154645658
how about keeping them for RS?
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While I've already got CoD and Kefka, I should still roll on this upcoming banner, right? My only support is Krile and I have no full breaker so WoL or Lenna would really round me out.
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cool, Celes is looking really good with this change.
Joseph actually can do something now, but don't care anyway
Actually, out of all these buffs the only one I care about is Gordon cause I have his Fire Shield SB which is an Att/Mag breakdown against all enemies. Now I can use him as a white mage and breakdown character...except he's still stuck at 65. Give him a MC2 already!
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>>154641824
I got some 6 star book, wtf is that? Power creep for tyro?
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>>154646013
+20 atk w/ rs is +30. depending on how long one has been playing, more than enough +30 atk acc have been distributed

their only use now is as a collector piece
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>>154646013
RS gives accessories +50%. So if you have a +30 ATK accessory, a +20 ATK will only match it with synergy, and a +15 accessory only gives +22.
What accessories you keep will depend on what you have already, but I'd just ditch all the accessories that only give +15 and nothing else (like an element resist) unless you're really new and don't have much.
I'd also just sell off any DEF/RES accessories since you'll honestly never use them.
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>>154646234
def/res acc like gauntlets are good. put em on mages. even attackers if u know they will hit cap from shout with weapon/armor alone
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>>154646224
his OSB, its shit
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>>154646330
yes, res and HP items are still good for W Mages
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>>154646057
He got his MC2 at Gold Fes along with the other Forgotten Ones like Fusoya and half the rest of the FFII cast. Shouldn't be too long now.

>>154646330
I disagree, I'd take that extra tiny boost to ATK even if it brings me beyond softcap over some DEF/RES. I'd bring HP if I needed some extra survivability. And Mages need all the MAG they can get desu.
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stashed 126 out of 226 record materias. feels good man

i could probably increase that to 176. maybe later.
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>>154646054
Just do daily pulls. Maybe use some tickets on the last day if you haven't got anything good by then.
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>>154642102

mage SBs are garbage!

garbage!
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>>154646461
I feel like WoL should be one of the most important units though. I need somebody to kick Lasswell or Golbez off this team. (Chizuru can do that as well, but I feed she and CoD ultimately do the same thing.)
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>>154642102
I like these rankings, any master list thats includes those?

>tfw I have exdeath's best relics but no dark zone yet

Soon tree, soon
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>>154646439
>He got his MC2 at Gold Fes along with the other Forgotten Ones like Fusoya and half the rest of the FFII cast. Shouldn't be too long now.

I've been playing for almost a year so that's event must have been a long fucking time ago. If it's been that long they really should have dropped it in the hall.
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>>154646980
the jp altema site
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>>154646980
>I like these rankings

he's a faggot retard, don't take his advice
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>>154646980
>any master list thats includes those?
They're altema rankings, so.. yeah. Google Translate recommended.
http://altema.jp/ffrk/bukilist

>>154647009
I was referring to JP. It happened around the same time as Guaranteed 5*/Cloud OSB for them, so we shouldn't be waiting much longer.
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>>154647146
>I was referring to JP
oh, that makes much more sense.
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Is there any way to turn the 6* crystals in RK into Major Orbs?
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>>154648389
Nope, and the reverse is impossible too. Crystals are their own thing and the developers have said they're not likely to change that.
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>>154648452
Fuuuuck but I'm never gonna make those shit abilities
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>>154648705
don't worry, they aren't good anyway
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>>154648705
Not with that attitude you won't. When you actually build up crystals the few good ones like Meltdown and Snowspell Strike become worthwhile.
I can't wait to use the latter with Celes' Runic.
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>>154648881
There are other good ones besides Meltdown and Snow strike.

Curaja+, Vali, Allegro, North Cross, and Omega Drive.
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Events

>Showdown Event: The Five Dooms - 25 Sep
Dates for respective phases in pic related
>A Special Place - 30 Sep (Ultimates: 3 Oct)
>Reforge feature - 6 Oct
>Glimmer of Hope (Cloud OSB, possibly G5*) - 6 Oct (Ultimates: 9 Oct)
>DU25 - 11 Oct
>Friendship Ribbon - 12 Oct (Ultimates: 15 Oct)
>[Nightmare] Curada Record - 18 Oct
>Thorns of the Rose - 19 Oct (Ultimates: 22 Oct)
>Heir of the Dynast-King - 26 Oct (Ultimates: 29 Oct)


>New Ability Names

Chain Firaga
Stoneja
Chain Stonega
Chain Thundaga


>Fat Chocobo Inventory

Time-limited items will be added to Fat Chocobo's Gysahl Exchange.
>Mythril
>Major White Orb
>Major Holy Orb
>Major Earth Orb

5:00 AM 9/14 PST(1:00 PM 9/14 UTC) to 4:59 AM 9/21 PST (12:59 PM 9/21 UTC)
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With all the good abilities coming very soon and a lot of them being 5*, like the chain spells, will we see a greater amount of Majors roll out? Would suck some massive balls to see all the awesome coming in and barely touch it in months.
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>>154650272
Forgot about Omega Drive and Allegro, but I wouldn't consider the others to be really worth investing into even though Northern Cross is pretty good.
Curada needs to be R4 or R5 to really be considered, and when you look at how many Crystals that needs why would you bother when you could just use Curaja or even Ultra Cure?
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>>154650636

apparently you haven't noticed but they're giving out shitloads of majors nowadays. i got seventeen from just the u+ fight a couple of weeks ago
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>>154648881
>meltdown
no
>Snowspell
Well, with Celes yes, with anyone else? not really

>>154650272
Northern Cross would be great on certain bosses but not going to work on a lot.
The rest must be the second wave of 6* abilities. So really, nothing to care about in 6* for a long ass time. I don't even waste my time on most final nightmare bosses, not worth the time. I'll do it when power creep makes them butter
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>>154650690
Curaja+ starts at 4 uses. at r2 + the 2000hp stock, im sure its better than curaja at r5 (and i never use all 12 of these) or ultra cure.
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>>154651116
Meltdown is great though, 3 hits with the strongest damage Black Mages have, and two of the three elements are really rare for Black Mages. Snowspell is also some of the highest damage out there, and it also has multiple elements.
You can actually hone some 6*s a decent amount if you shatter the other trash skills you'll be getting from this Five Dooms event.

>>154651248
I know how many uses it has, same with every other White Mage skill worth a damn. You're going to want as many uses as possible on it though. The fact that you get more healing out of it per use doesn't really matter when you're going to need your heals a lot and on different characters. Heal spells more than anything need to be R4.
And it's Curada, brah.
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>>154651528
when you have 2000hp buffer, you dont need more uses. its 1.5x more healing for free, no extra actions needed. even moreso when u have a medica.
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>>154651928
Okay, go ahead and waste your very limited Crystals on a minor improvement of your single-target heal that didn't really need to be improved anyway. I'll be using mine on better damage skills.

It's not always a question of whether or not you CAN do something, it's whether or not you SHOULD. Curada is absolutely the best single-target heal in the game, but is that really necessary when you could improve on something else instead? If it were some kind of game-changing medica spell I might understand, but as it is I can't see it ever being worth the investment.
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>>154651248
>>154651928
It uses the exact same crystals as Allegro, you're making a big mistake if you hone that shit anon.
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>>154644691
That shorts-skirt thing is fucking retarded. Between this, Vaan's armored pants and minivest combo, and Basch's fashion disaster of an outfit, Yoshida must have been on some very good drugs.
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improving something that you use every single fight sounds pretty attractive
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>>154652545

well you say good but the man was clearly having nightmares
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>>154652580
Have you ever actually used Curaja in a fight and thought "Hmm, I could use more"? These are rare Crystals we're talking about here.
Even JP ignores Curada, as they should, and it's been out for a while there.
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>>154652580
Not when that thing doesn't really need to be improved. I have never even once in either global or JP hoped that Curaja would heal more: it does what it does perfectly well. And technically you don't need Curaja for every single fight. I've cleared several U+ and U++ fights with Angeal's SSB as my only form of healing.
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>>154640460
What does it do? I love that little slut
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>>154652727

yeah i often wish my characters had another 2k hp
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>>154652805
Hey, it's your game. You're free to make all the bad decisions you want.
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>>154652789
It's a strong single-target EnLightning SB with another strong single-target burst command.
It shits out damage like crazy, pretty much.
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>>154652879

all i know here is that your arguments sure haven't been persuasive

as always, i'll make it once i need it
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>>154652748
there are some rare cases when I can't fully heal a character, with aja, like a critically low Gilgamesh. But that last bit doesn't really worry me much since it can be healed up with regen. And medica will heal him fully if it so happens that a lot of people need that heal anyway. So we already have more powerful heals than aja, they are medicas
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>>154653012
Well yeah, Curaja isn't going to heal your dudes to full every time, but it doesn't need to. That's the point.
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How many Curajas and Diagas do I need to beat Nightmare Evrae Altana?
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>>154652461
why would i care about allegro when i dont care about mages. if things change down the line, r1 allegro is free iirc and it covers 6 turns - thats good enough.
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>>154653096
23
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>>154653000
I can't really be any more persuasive that that, though, The thing is single target, adding a 2000 HP stock to it doesn't really change the game or even help a ton when damn near everything threatening is AoE.
If it were only 5* I might recommend it.

I feel I should let you know that the HP Stock buff doesn't save your characters from getting 1-shot though like the Stoneskin buff does. It only heals them for that 2000 HP if they survive the attack first. Just saying.
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>>154652258
if there is no crystal cost overlap with good damage skills, its a no brainer improvement for me. white/earth/holy btw. the overlap is with meltdown but
>mages
dont care all that much (although dark mages with dz + melt, auto doom would be worth looking at)
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>>154653096
bout tree fiddy

>>154653285
Gaia Cross too, just off the top of my head.
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>>154653196
no way a char will be 1 shot after a 105h heal.
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>>154653461

could happen after, say, a dispel, or if you miss removing a +atk/mag buff

corner cases but they happen and do make a difference
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>>154653264
no, you will use magic and you will like it!
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>>154653461
It's not common but it can happen if it's like a White Mage or something and your mitigation wore off, just felt like adding is as an aside.
I've gotten 1-shot from full HP before.
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>>154653354
gaia cross is 5*

>>154652971
i wonder if its like jechts bandana and raises atk+mag or is that wishful thinking on my part so i can whale on it for lightning.
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>>154653604
>gaia cross is 5*
Sorry, meant Aegis Strike. I get the two mixed up.
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>>154653701

gross
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>>154653264
idk about the sb and dont care, but dark boost armor on dark mages is hella good. but not for 50 mythril
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>>154653096
At least 1 if you also have a diara and R2 holy, as well as 2 or more SBs which can damage Evrae. Very difficult fight without the right stuff.
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>>154653604
>i wonder if its like jechts bandana and raises atk+mag
Do you mean the relic itself? It's just Light Armor that also gives some MAG.
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>No, Neocucks cucksuck Kagari the Stelladrone mod who runs an FF fansite and complain about everything she complains about. People on /v/ agree that the recent footage is better, there being people on other sites that agree too doesn't somehow make it a neocuck originating thing, in fact the meme to shit on Tabata and complain about western shit is something that originates from Neocuck and is spouted by Kagari and her lackeys too. NeithOF is a prime example of one of her whiteknights and what's even sadder is that he posts on gamefags yet still shills her opinions.

What did he mean by this?
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>>154653826
damn son, you'll have that Cover TM in no time!
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>>154653096
1 curaja r5
1 curaga r5
2 diaga r3
1 diara r5

this isnt enough btw
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>>154653826
Why are you pulling now instead of on the fb banner doe
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>>154653983
damn. might drop 25 for it anyway or else i guess im waiting for that dumb kaiser shield to show up again.
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Which side are you on?
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>>154654210
The pull of the bunny titties is too strong, I'd guess.

>>154653983
>>154654276
Correction, it's just Light Armor that also gives some MAG AND a 20% Lightning damage boost.
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>>154654210
i don't want any one of those characters
if x-death were there i'd be all over it though
>>154654398
that too i guess
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>>154654289

you're getting desperate. have a pity reply
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>>154653264
At least you don't get 0/11.
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>>154653826
garnet sure is tiny.
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>>154654289
this xv-kun sounds more reasonable, so him
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>>154654742
Who's xv-kun? That image is talking about VX-kun.
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YEAH EMBRACE THE STILLNESS OF ETERNITY YOU LITTLE GOBLINS
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>>154654839
And people said that Bartz is underwhelming.
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>>154654841

we should submit XV-fag to some of VX-kun
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>>154654839
BUUUUUURTZ
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>>154654858
Still a little upset over still having no BSBs and Gilgamesh has no SBs, but I guess I'm ok with having Exdeath be useable now
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>forget to read what the target scores for the Ultimate battle is, just know that Omniscient is vulnerable to Stop from seeing what Dr. Mog said
>don't bring a Dispel for his Regen, have a full physical team
>still don't lose a medal
Well. Okay then. Should probably start paying attention to these things before it bites me in the ass.
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>no cecil
>no zidane
>no exdeath
>CoD AND Donut

Jesus christ people are fucking stupid

Speaking of fucking stupid, should I fall for the meme and do an 11 pull? I got like 25 tickets
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I ground out 50 mith over the past week for this. (Gilgamesh banner)
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>>154656213
>Jesus christ people are fucking stupid
The poll only included specific characters, and I assure you the best character in each "group" ended up winning and making it on the banner.
And yeah, it's worth an 11 pull.
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>>154656291
There there anon, maybe next time
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>>154656291

g5 right around the corner, no one but yourself to blame
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>>154656291
I don't even feel bad for you dumbasses anymore.
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Question to anons who play both BE and RK. Which is more painful? 0/11 or getting shit characters on a 5k pull?
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>>154656590
The latter, because building up 5k lapis actually takes a long time.
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>>154656590
0/11
>>154656403
>>154656445
to be fair, Gil's Burst doesn't get a rerun until Bartz's father becomes playable
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>>154653969

I beat Evrae with 0 damage SBs, but I had SG+2 Medicas and a hastega. You need 4 Raise casts for phase two along with WHT dualcast on your users. Still almost ran out of hones at the end with 3 Diara + a Diaga and two Curaga + a Curaja
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>>154656445
>muh G5
Why don't you go and leave? We aren't even sure of when global is gettng G5 and people aren't gonna start passing up the chance at good relics just cause at some point in yhe future we'll get G5
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>>154655869
>bring full break
>6 free medals on almost every ultimate
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>>154656774
>and people aren't gonna start passing up the chance at good relics just cause at some point in yhe future we'll get G5
No, they'll be passing the good relics because soon we enter the stage where every two events the banners are worth pulling
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>>154656774
>and people aren't gonna start passing up the chance at good relics just cause at some point in yhe future we'll get G5
They should, though. And since it was translated in the LAST datamine (not this one), it's not far off.
You know those "good relics" those people are passing up? There will be a lot more of them after G5 hits.
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If you go 0/11 you're a chump.
I haven't gone 0/11 since 2015.
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>>154657060
Damn son, I wish I could be as skilled at RNG as you are.
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>>154655869
>start U+
>Monk Kick for over 4k on Tyro right off the bat
You guys weren't kidding about that. Let the resets begin.
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Can someone help a shitter? I've been playing BE for a while and i've been wondering, what should i do with my Lapis? How do i recognize a good unit? What is rerolling? What is unit fusion? How do i stop being shit?
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post >yfw G5 fags get cucked on their first 11 pull by vanilla 5s
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>>154657361

shove them up your bum
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>>154657404
Vanilla 5*s aren't even on most of those banners and it's better than going 0/11 like you losers, get fucked.
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>>154657440
Couldn't fit all of them fäm.
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>>154656590
5k pull, If you didn't build up your team well enough.
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>>154657790

there are exercises for that
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Nice, we got the II boost.
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>>154658108
Not all of it. Firion got the stats and gear but not the 5* Samurai for some reason.
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>>154655869
That wasn't so bad.

>use Trueblade of Legend on him
>he counters with his own Trueblade of Legend
Pretty goddamn cool, not gonna lie.
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>>154658108
>decide to try out the mote bosses because I've got a record sphere in mind
>they can't be too hard!
>my anus is torn asunder

Holy FUCK I was not expecting to get so shit stomped,guessing I need some real end game gear for this
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>>154658642
Ifrit is literally the hardest battle we've had so far, but Dahaka isn't so bad and is on the lower end of Ultimate difficulty.
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>>154658642

the second one is much easier than ifrit
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>>154658721
>and is on the lower end of Ultimate difficulty.

unless you don't get any random staggers, in which case i hope you brought plenty of hones
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>>154658868
I only got the one fixed stagger and didn't really have much of an issue.
I did have SG though, so that obviously helped.
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>>154657473
the only banners without even a chance at a generic 5 are the lucky draws, the featured relics are boosted but you can get anything in the "relics" tab beneath the rare relic draw button

for instance you can get a blood lance on the current ffv banners
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>>154659018
>not doing CMs

shiggy
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>>154659172
Yeah, you generally have a 1% chance of getting something off-banner at any given time though, and a much lower chance for that to be an SB-less relic.
Not exactly comparable to the 20%ish 0/11 chances pre-G5, and it's not even worse than going 0/11 in the first place.
>>
Is there a quick way to figure out SBs that do specific things? I use Enlir's spreasheet for that, but the problem is that the list is very huge and if you're like look for something specific say AoE fire SB, it's really annoying to find using it.
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>>154659223
Wake me up when they give me something other than a couple orbs. Ifrit's the only one worth a damn, and that was a mistake.

Yeah, I'll probably try it when I actually get some XIII synergy.
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>>154659645
enlir is on google doc so cant you apply filters?

also i really dislike these st sign captchas
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>>154659656
How about the challenge of not making the game faceroll easy with wall and shout?
Literally if it wasn't for cid missions this game would be so ridiculously dull and easy I wouldn't bother.
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>>154659818
>also i really dislike these st sign captchas
Use legacy captcha in the settings.
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>>154659846
That's true, but honestly I can't really do much of anything WITHOUT Wall and Shout at my current level. I need to pick up some synergy before I can go without them and actually do something interesting with my party. The only 5* skill I have at R2 is Full Break.
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>>154659846
Are you the guy that's bitching whenever JP banners have them bothon rate-up?
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>>154660049

that's the only 5* ability i use on most CMs

i have busted out FC and/or CS on occasion though
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Is FFV fun? I like bartz so I wanna play his game. Is it long/hard or is there a way to cheese the whole thing?
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>>154660164
By CS do you mean Powerchain (aka Chainstarter) or is that a typoed Saint Cross?
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>>154659846
Holy shit senpai it's almost like they put CMs so people who have been playing for a while have a new challenge while new players get gud enough to me rely complete them
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>>154660280

who gives a shit?
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>>154660245
No, no, yes.

Play VII, VIII, X, XII, or XIII and don't waste time on kiddie stuff until it gets a remake.
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>>154660427
I think the guy who took the time to ask the question does, isn't that enough?
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>>154660447
>Play VII, VIII, X, XII, or XIII

oh i see, all the bad opinions in this thread come from one single poster. weird.
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>>154660376
>me rely
Dunno how reliably typo'd to me rely, welp
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>>154660376
holy shit ur right

the other guy is so dumb, #sorrynotsorry lol
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>>154660245
Yes its fun, and depending on how you play it can be long and difficult or you can cheese it really easily
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>>154660376
>while new players get gud enough to me rely complete them
you okay anon? it looks like you had a stroke there
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>>154660447
>and don't waste time on kiddie stuff until it gets a remake
But VII is kiddie stuff, that's why it's getting a remake.
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>>154660516

no, go fuck yourself
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>>154660603
>change me rely to merely
>suddenly the sentence makes sense
whoa
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>>154660598
The game is honestly pretty easy regardless of how you play it unless you do some stupid shit like running several berserkers or something.
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>>154660632
calm down
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>>154660613
VII is T for Teens. Have you even played the game?
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>>154660717
Are you telling me that 4 berserkers isnt the only way to play V?
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>>154657361
Check the wiki
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>>154660245
I just started a blind playthrough not long ago and it's been fun so far. The amano portraits are absolutely killing me though.
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>>154660806

1 berserker 3 corpses is the only way to play v
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>>154660747
So is FFV desu
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=31726&Title=Final+Fantasy+V
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>>154660806
Too bad it's impossible to 100% FFV using 4 berserkers.
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>>154661179
Not with that attitude
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>>154661179

it's literally been done by a solo berserker
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I have Aerith with Planet Protector and Healing Wind, Lenna with Princess' Favor and Royal Devotion, Arc with Soothing Light and Minwu with Will of the White Mage. Which White Mage should I use?
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>>154661314
That's not what 100% means.
But goddamn was that ever neat. Even if it was literally done with a macro and a bunch of different emulators running at the same time.
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>>154661381
>that image
That's mean. And I'd say Minwu for most fights unless you need something outside the White Mage's skillset for a certain fight.
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Every day i say it will be the last time, but i keep coming back just to get hurt once more. Im not doing any more 250 draed until lightning.
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>>154661381

minwu but consider lenna from time to time, high regen puts in real work
>>
oh nice the spare garland mc2 converts into a major egg
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>>154661887
As will your MC2 lodes when the time comes.
>>
Does 6* Cloud of Darkness have ability slots or is she incapable of dual wielding?
>>
>>154662165
the latter
>>
So how does a Double BSB fest work? Is it cause there's two BSB Relics on every banner?
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>>154662284
Well that sucks.I'd need the Gilgamesh TM, then?
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>>154662352
Yeah, and the rest are SSBs.
It's mostly called that because it's the second BSBfest though.

>>154662165
She has 4 slots, yes.
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>>154662447
Ah ok, I guess i'll try pulling on the samurai banner then when it happens
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>>154662352
>>154662447
Japan and their use of "W" for double is kind of weird. For years I was convinced FuSoYa and Golbez used a spell called "White Meteor" since White (Holy) had been used right before they do the combination attack.
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>>154663393
Ive heard it has something to do with the word they use that means double
>>
>>154663393
>>154663471
It's just from W being pronounced "double-u". They took the double part and used that as a convenient shorthand.
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>>154663471
It's because of how W is pronounced and that's it.
Japanese people usually just say "double" and leave out the "you" when they read it for some reason, so to them it literally means double.
>>
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>>154663758
kill yourself
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>>154663393
>>154663471
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W#Usage
>The Japanese language uses "W", pronounced /daburu/, as an ideogram meaning "double".
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>>154663471
>>154663709
>>154663712
>>154663852
Yeah, it's kind of an interesting quirk. I thought it was great that they could use that spell in After Years, although it stunk that it was random and you didn't get FuSoYa as a party member when Golbez's scenario was over.

It would have been nice if they had settled on names for the spells earlier on. The white/pearl/holy confusion was especially bad, and I still don't understand how merton became a spell name.
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>>154663780
u first lol
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>>154664032

The Japanese name for Meltdown is メルトン, literally "Meruton".
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>>154664032
>The white/pearl/holy confusion was especially bad
Pretty sure that was a censorship thing.

>and I still don't understand how merton became a spell name
Well it's literally メルトン (Meruton) in Japanese. I guess that the Japs were going for the English word Meltdown didn't cross the translators' minds. They likely said "Merton/Melton? Well that's fucking weird, but that's what it says".
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>>154664398
why didnt they just write meltdown in english if they wanted the english word.
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>>154664729
You mean the nips? They don't usually do that kind of thing in games (at least back then), and I don't think there was the space for that anyway.
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>>154664398
Oh, right. I didn't even remember how strange the censorship could get at the time.
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>>154664838
it would be far simpler and less embarrassing than using 6 alphabets and still failing to capture the word phonetically. its not like the japanese audience cant read english letters either.

there are even more simple solutions like picking up the phone and calling tokyo to ask whether the translation is correct. 80s/90s workers should be fired.
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>>154664032
Pearl was a censorship thing, and I think Merton was just a way of fitting Meltdown into the limited text boxes
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>>154661029
Nope. It's a kids' game for Nintendo babies.
>>
>have a Nexus 4
>Exvius has menu lag, animation lag, and certain spell animations crash the game
>Mobius runs flawlessly despite being ostensibly more graphically demanding

I don't understand
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>>154665574
>and I think Merton was just a way of fitting Meltdown into the limited text boxes
I doubt that, they got two damn letters wrong. Even shit like HolyDrgSwd is better than Merton.
>>
>>154665781
Nexus 4 doesn't like ugly games.
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>>154665886
mobius is the most ugly game
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>>154665716
>cherrypicking the kiddie version to respond to an hour-old post
Nah son, the PSN version is an unedited port of the original unlike the GBA version, and it has a T-rating.
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>>154665873
I think woolsey confirmed it in an interview
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>>154664361

oh fuck me, they're adding Merton.

finally that stupid name makes sense.
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>>154666056
oh no i responded an hour later! call the police.

cherry picking is picking the version of the game no one plays. its the preferred version in the op guide and the only version ive seen people play here or in speedruns. you are the picker of cherries here.
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>>154666056
but the playstation version sucks ass
>>
>>154664729

they did, they just used kana for it.
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>>154666135
I never heard anything about that. It's far more likely that it was just mistranslated because of it being pronounced "Meruton" in Japanese. If they were going for Meltdown in the English version there's no reason to change any of those letters, jut delete a couple vowels.
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>>154666056
T rating or not, the GBA version has a vastly superior script though.
>>
>>154664361
Who here honing Meltdown?
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>>154666305
>>154666432
The reason I mention the PSN version is that it's an unedited version of the original, which itself has no ESRB rating for obvious reasons.

And people play the SNES version for speedruns, you're either retarded or making stuff up. Probably both.
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>>154666635
I won't be honing or crafting a single 6* ability unless I think it can get me through a Cid's Missions I otherwise can't clear.
>>
>>154666545

merton does look better than mltdwn. got vowels and everything

sure you could argue that the information in mltdwn is more important than the aesthetics of having an actually pronounceable ability name, but i'm not sure i'd agree
>>
>>154666635
>black magic
no thanks. ill donate my crystals to charity instead.
>>
>>154666725
>And people play the SNES version for speedruns
oh wow, a few dozen autists who have nothing better to do than replay a game every day to hopefully beat it a few seconds faster than they did last time prefer the glitchier version: truly it must be the definitive one!
>>
>>154666635

as a mentally disturbed hoarder i'm with >>154666748
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>>154666821
>he doesn't have sheepsong
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>>154666805
>i'm not sure i'd agree
You're not sure that you'd agree that actually knowing what an attack is supposed to be (and thus knowing how it's supposed to be pronounced) is better than having vowels and becoming an incomprehensible "word"?
>>
>>154666938
You're the one that used that argument to begin with, retard.
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>>154667052

you're pretty far along on the spectrum aren't you?
>>
>>154667183
No I didn't. I haven't even been involved in this argument until now, retard. I just saw a new post, noticed it was dumb and decided to point out that it was dumb.
>>
>>154667216
not an argument
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>>154667052
Merton both sounds and looks better than Mltdwn. This is a fact.
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>>154665328
Maybe just a real mistake by whoever was in charge of creating/inserting spell names? Looking through the SFC version it seems like spell names can extend more than 6 characters which is what Meltdown / メルトダウン should (?) use if I were to phonetically say it. A Google searches of its usage and dictionaries agree.

Then again they still use メルトン in VI, VIII, XI, and the banner here >>154664361... To me it either really isn't meant to be Meltdown, or they're just preserving it as a relic of the time. A search of メルトン usage only returns either Final Fantasy or the wool fabric material, melton.
>>
>>154666725
typical dumb nintendo baby jumping to insults before fact checking

>he original version of the game was released on the Virtual Console in Japan in January 2011 for the Wii and in March 2014 for the Wii U, and the PlayStation version of the game was re-released on the PlayStation Network as a PSone Classic in Japan on April 6, 2011, in Europe on April 13, 2011 and in North America on November 22, 2011.

the original version was ported to wii, NOT psn.
>>
Speaking of names that were changed for space, I sorf of wish the Nuke translation from the first game had been kept instead of Flare. Being MegaNuked by Bahamut always seemed more intimidating.

>>154667357
It totally doesn't sound better. Merton sounds lke the name of an accountant from the 80's.
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>>154667293
>I haven't even been involved in this argument until now
Sure you haven't, you just didn't see the first post making literally the exact same argument and assumed it was that the one correcting him that was being dumb.

>>154667436
What exactly do you think the Playstation version is, anon?
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>>154667357
>Merton both sounds
no
>...and looks
maybe if it was a real word
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>>154667517
>Speaking of names that were changed for space, I sorf of wish the Nuke translation from the first game had been kept instead of Flare.
I agree, though maybe not specifically Nuke. Flare has always made me think of an even stronger fire magic than Firaga even though it's non-elemental. Messes with me even to this day.
>>
>>154666056
Rating criteria have changed several times since V first came out. IIRC in Japan old FFs are rated as kid friendly, VII, VIII, and X were 12+, and XV is the only mainline to hold the 15+ rating.
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>>154667436
You're talking about the original Japanese version of the game, which literally no one else is. You're not that dumb, are you?
>>
>>154667608
>real word

oh, it's just not cromulent enough for you?
>>
>>154667517
>It totally doesn't sound better. Merton sounds lke the name of an accountant from the 80's.

Oh, and Mltdwn sounds better? It's almost unpronounceable.
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>>154667554
a different version

or should i quote you the relevant passages again so u feel dumber
>>
>>154667742
No one else huh? Not even the guy he's responding to?
>>154666725

>You're not that dumb, are you?
>>
>>154667694
Yeah, I see what you mean. Higher tier elemental spells were always kind of neat, too. The fact that they keep changing the last syllable makes the high tier stuff seem kind of lame.

>>154667751
It's not that it's good, it's just that merton is bad. It's almost pointless to discuss what would work better, since even if it needed to be retranslated for another version, it's highly unlikely it would be changed to anything but straight up Meltdown.
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>>154667731
>Rating criteria have changed several times since V first came out
I'd say so, since ratings weren't even a thing when V first came out.
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>>154667694
Nuke doesn't make much sense, considering most FF worlds don't have any actual reactors, let alone nuclear ones.
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>>154667984
They did make it straight up Meltdown in the newer versions because there's space, but back in the day they had to choose. Kids playing through FF6 back in the 90s would probably like the look of Merton better than Mltdwn, and that's probably why they chose the name.
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>>154667420
so they are lazy? wut else could it possibly mean if not meltdown?
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>>154668137
Well, I was a "kid back the day" and I thought it looked stupid. They would have been better off just making up some nonsense, since it's not as if Woolsey was above taking liberties with the script anyway.
>>
>>154667771
You see, the Playstaion version is a port of the original and the first one that was officially localized, thus it's the original for Western audiences (which include you, I'd assume). The PSN version is this port.
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>>154668103
ESRB was created in 1994; FFV got its first Western release in 1999. You're right about Japan, though.
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>>154663393
>>154663471
>>154663709
>>154663712
>>154664032
Bakas, w is short for 笑, which means LOL.
>>
LIGHTNING BROS ASSEMBLE FOR THE NEW THREAD
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>>154668463
lol meteo would really change the feeling of the last fight in 4.
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>>154668463
thats a table with chairs on it anon
not a word
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>>154668287
I honestly don't know. It most definitely is supposed to be Meltdown, but they're just stubborn in keeping it as メルトン in Final Fantasy rather than the "correct" メルトダウン. You're definitely not summoning down wool fabric on your enemies if animations in-game are anything to go by.
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>>154668670
wwww
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>>154669024
No.
I understand wwww means warai- to laugh

But they also use W which means daburu.
Irrelevant shit but I follow idols and there's this shit called "Wセンター", which means Double Center, where 2 girls centers a song, for a single/EP release.
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>>154669314
>>154669314
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>>154668929

there's no "correct" way to transliterate text, only "correct within the context of a specific transliteration method"
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>>154669428
He was making a joke, no need for a correction.
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