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Previously on /tosg/ >>154445867

Latest happenings: Bluehound exposed, going full damage control. Ohayou won 4 matches yesterday, won 1 today and lost two.

Latest Patch Notes: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=636
Rank 8 Update Preview: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610
Updates You Might Have Missed: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=624

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Late September™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Frequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/z0nHSEjH

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Orsha (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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/Bullies/ when?
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>>154530453
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>>154530453
Soon
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>fighting a con stacking Kabba
>just sits there with sevenfold
>my weakest attack will one shot me
>no problem I'll just wait it out, I guess
>it has a 60s duration and is refreshed before it even runs out
Guess I'll just fucking die then, IMC, okay
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>>154530679
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>>154530679
Switch to a dagger and poke him, or attack once barehanded. There's no way you'd die from that.
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>>154530679
That's easy just reserve your 3rd and 4th weapon slot hotkeys with lower damage weapons so you can break it without killing yourself.
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>>154530679

Wait until rank 8. Enchanters can make bombs. They're usable items that are expensive and deal piss poor damage and Koreans say making them is the same as throwing money away. If they're usable in PVP this could be their only purpose.
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>>154530435
Why are you replying to this? Rance himself has said exactly the same thing a bunch of times. It's a shitpost meme.
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>>154530935
From the same people who gave us the Sword3 attribute that bossts Bash damage by about 50, an expensive Featherfoot attribute that makes you recover 1 more HP per level, and the Murmillo attribute that gives you a 25% chance of reducing 100 damage when hit. Also crazy expensive.
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>>154531067

Making them also requires learning an attribute that takes 640 minutes to learn and costs like 10 million.

This is also the only attribute Enchanters get.
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>>154530435
Wait, I thought you wanted a cata?
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We haven't had any good ERP logs dropped in a long time.
You guys do have some ERP logs right?
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How does the damage of Chaplain's Magnus exorcismus work? Is it affected by exorcism damage/attribute level in any way or is it best to just take level 1 Exorcism and level 5 magnus?

I'm thinking about swapping Capella to ME when we get that buff since it's the only AoE Cleric skill not restricted by hitcount that I'm aware of but I'm curious how it works.
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wheres the tp beethoven? reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>Flying fire element melee mage mob with 122k hp

Someone at IMC is asking to die!
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>>154531519
Evergarden's account mailbox.
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>>154530402
Why is she barefoot?
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Are monks fertile?
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>>154531519
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>>154531397
No one actually erps, silly anon
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>>154531570
Because it's so much more erotic that way.
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>Tfw too lazy to do anything because R8 is just around the corner and I'd rather wait until the update to do stuff like dungeon clears

Just fuck my shit up senpai.
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>Be 10 levels higher than everyone else in mission
>They choose to fight 2 bosses at once
>I have to watch them all die over and over again

Why do they do this
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>tfw every bot IMC decides is not a bot lowers my report rating until reporting is pointless
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>>154532330
It works out sometimes in my teams but I have Priest3 to kinda help with that.

Did you guys have any SZ going around?
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>>154532330
>Not being a cleric and keeping them alive while doing top DPS and tanking the boss
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>>154530402
Why is she standing on tip toe?
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>>154532330
Chances are you had a linker.
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>>154532330
Nigga I do this >>154532463 with 17+ level penalty.
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>>154531720
Don't do this to me anon, I have a spanking fetish...
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>>154532524
We didn't.
No cleric either.
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wtf i hate amadeus now
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>>154532330
they just want to get it over with
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>>154532330
always works for me

they'r just shit
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Does this make for a useful or decent cleric?

Cleric2>Krivis3>Oracle>Plaguedoctor
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Just getting started, around level 10 on each of the starting classes.
Which of them are the best at soloing?
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>>154533715
For r8 I think the better build for Krivis 3 is Druid 2 Taoist. With that build you're on a weird midway point between the Bokor Plague Doctor pandemic effigy+Incinerate AoE build and the lightning nuker Toist build. That's still a very useful build just a little outside the norm.
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>>154533926
Swordsman
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>>154532597
Join Ohayou and get spanked by mozart!!
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>not sure if I hate my class or I hate the game
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Good Morning /tosg/
When the TP rewards from GBL are given out? We ranked 5th this week
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>Spanking
Is this some new cancer inside joke like lalacow
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>>154534417

Both for me!

I don't even know why I am bothering to get to rank 8. I'll be turning this character into a fucking vendor and then (not) rerolling into something actually useful because my current character is unsalvageable.
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>>154534513
It should become possible to redeem them when the GBL window becomes active at 9 PM. It did not update properly for Futureproof, we have 1012 points but ignored our 2 wins and only shows our one loss.

Fuck you too, IMC.
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>tfw waiting for a better MMO to fucking hurry up and come out already so my entire guild can migrate to it like FOE did
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>>154534513
We got ours already
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>>154534881
Whenever you find one, tell me about it anon
I want off of this soon
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>>154534513
Alt + G -> Properties -> Check GvG Rankings (near Guild storage button) -> should be below the last week rankings
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I don't think IMC plays their own game.
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>tfw ToS until Bless Online
Nothing else looks remotely interesting except Maplestory 2
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dead thread
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>>154534881

>2012
>be in guild
>hey guys there's this new fun MMO! We should all play it!
>half the guild goes there
>establish guild in-game
>play for a while
>can't quit because I'm autistic while members from the previous guild quit one by one
>soon it's just me and players I met in this new game
>ToS is released
>hey guys, we should play this game together!
>fraction of the guild joins
>they all quit
>have to establish a guild all over again, alone
>when we move on from this game, history will repeat

It's a never ending cycle of samsara.
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Oh, now i understand the "no updating ranking" bullshit
UI showed us at 5th but in truth we were 11th
Wel, fuck
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>>154535645
You should stop being an MMO hopping faggot and stick to a game for once.
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>>154535823

I have always sticked to a game, anon. It's the game itself that doesn't stick around.
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>>154536035
What game is that?
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Now i am confused, wasn't top 10 only getting TPs?
5 packs of 100 TPs atleast
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>>154536035
>All-time peak was only 4000

I don't know if this one ever was alive
But I feel bad for you if you still play this
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>>154531067
let's not forget wugu attributes that only scale with base damage
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>>154536035
>>154536093
>Wolfknights

hehehehe
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>>154536180

You're ranking 11 on the overall ranking you dip. Like, your total win/lose puts you at 11. Weekly, however, you're in the top 10.

Also have you seen any alfafa seeds?
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>>154536342
>Also have you seen any alfafa seeds?
No
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ded
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>>154537226
>:3

S(he) knows what s(he's) doing.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/how-do-you-move-towers-in-gbl/326629/78

>And right now, some of you are actively engaging on a full hate-on salty responses by deviating the topic.
>Anyway, I'm going to tell the rest of my guild to stop replying here because it's just turned into a salty hate thread. There's no discussion of any substance left..
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>tfw based nips are saving ToS
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>>154537735
How are they saving it, anon
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>>154537735
Reminder that the venom description suggests it is used for cooking.
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>>154537841
with pivix
But until straight porn, nothing is saved
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>>154537735
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>>154531397
Yeah but I won't post em
They're too good to share with you plebians
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>>154537946
>Just drawings

oh well
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>>154538034
You can't understimate how powerfull can be porn in advertising a game
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>>154537735
>Shitty comics by a Chinaman are saving ToS

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=29659
>香港
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Awaiting D.L. Series of ToS doujins warmly.
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>>154538178
But you said there isn't any
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I wonder what jToS's TBL rankings look like right now
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>>154538007
Give us a sample.
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>reading fatsch's posts in the previous thread
>"I'm not a hypocrite"
KEKEKEK
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>>154538406
Soon
there are some little things already
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Level 205 and fishing off the rest of my level 8 card quest.

Hoping to cap before the big update but I doubt it due to work. How prepared is everyone?
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>>154538358
Reminder that this is done by a Chinese weeaboo
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>>154538624
I stopped playing but continue to shitpost in the thread.
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>>154538624
I want to beat you up because you're a monk and then serve you some hot chocolate while bandaging you up!
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>>154538624
2 characters ready for a girthy R8 dick with a third on its way up. Too bad they're all looking pretty mediocre compared to some of the other R8's but at least none of them look completely shit
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>>154538624
cap and like 350m in cards
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ToS shows why I hate nowaday mmos. I don't even want to complain about lack of optimization but 'smaller' things that simply annoy me.
Why make player go through all areas? Why not make multiple areas with with mobs lv25-35 and then they all would have mobs and quests prepared in mind for different classes. Like flying for 2h bow archers, heavy armored, slow but with weak mdef for mage users, undeads resistant to normal magic, but weak to cleric spells, etc. Early you would have to only go through one of such areas to be able to move up to 'another tier'. It would make leveling different alts more interesting. While somehow on topic, where did come trend of all chars and classes starting in same town? Fuck that.
I also dislike how ToS pretends it's not mostly levleing from quests, because quests give noexp, instead you get expcards you can use whenever. Totally different! At the same time, I get feeling monster exp was scaled to usually give 0.1%.
Dungeons are mostly boring, though some boss fights are nice. Despite jumping being wonky, I'd still like to see some dodge button to spike up battles more.
Circles are interesting concept, but I wish there were more skills and they were balanced.
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>>154538754
My gear is all broken, please steak care of me.
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>>154538624
One character is 100% ready, just need to pop the card. Another is almost there but needs a few more days of grinding and one last map of questing. Another is at early Storage range and needs like 10 levels grinded in there, and the last one is parkd just before Alemeth range. I've got my hands full right now.
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>>154531519
Didnt we all decide that Evergarden gets all of it this week?
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>>154538954
What you're proposing would be a sandbox MMO. Modern players don't want that, they want their single-player experience, with the game carefully holding their hand every step of the way. The game was a lot more spartan and hands-free at first, but as kOBT and official releases came, they kept dumbing the game's complications down more and more.

Tree of Savior is a themepark, not a sandbox. We'll never get another Ragnarok-sized sandbox MMO ever again, simply because that's not what casuals want at this point in time. The Savior of MMOs isn't ToS, and it won't be here for a long time still. Maybe there's hope in early VR MMORPGs since those will be extremely niche.
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>>154538954
you just made me sad anon.
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>>154538970
Oh I'll definitely take care of your steak.
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>>154539424
I think the proper term is "roast beef"
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>>154538624

Going to get to rank 8 then dump my character because there is no viable way to build it into rank 8. Going to turn it into an Enchanter and see if I can make mad money before everyone hits rank 8.
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You winnin' your cube rolls son?
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>>154539476
That's how I am feeling about my SR, geez. I'll probably make a new archer and go Falconer but I'll wait for myself to be motivated enough for it since making new characters in this game is so dull and I dread to meet Rose again.
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>>154538954
>I get feeling monster exp was scaled to usually give 0.1%.
This is way more than your old mmorpgs.

Also there's a fairly large range in which you can get EXP, so you can skip a map or 2 if you want. I do dislike how little elements and races matter though.

>>154539318
What about Peria Chronicles? Although it's seeming more like what they want is an anime Second Life. Also RO is not a sandbox, it's just a barren MMO dungeon crawler.
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>>154539686
RO is the very definition of a sandbox. And what's this Peria Chronicles, never heard of it.
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>>154539661
wat, sr3 looks top tier
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>>154539987
lmao
>from the people who brought you "pd2 is a pvp god"
how long are you guys going to keep assuming that every class the koreans are bitching about being shit is good
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>>154539961

To be honest, in this day and age "sandbox MMOs" are just another kind of theme park. Different but still just a theme park.

RO came before these definitions and it's how MMO should be designed. The developers give you a world to play in with others, the rest is up to you.
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Finally... I am free for tonight...
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>>154539987
I did A1>QS3>Wugu1>Sr1

Wugu was definitely not a good idea, i don't know what I was thinking especially with a dex build.
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>Still playing this pathetic excuse of a game
Why haven't you killed yourselves yet?
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>>154539961
The definition of a sandbox is "game with nothing to do but grind?" Because here I thought it meant "game with all kinds of shit to do besides grind", MMOs like Eve and Mabinogi, and games like GTA. Apparently Diablo is a sandbox to you.

>What's this Peria Chronicles
A game that's been in development for years and barely made any progress. A you-can-do-anything type game where the idea is that players can make their own content.
http://steparu.com/previews/mmorpg/1653-peria-chronicles-online-full-teaser-trailer
http://steparu.com/latest-news/2148-peria-chronicles-online-sandbox-anime-mmorpg-2016-status-report
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>>154540509
In RO monsters gave the same exp regardless of your level, so you could farm items and still get decent amounts of EXP. You were grinding at all times, even if that wasn't your main goal.
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>>154540446
That is really one of the few archer builds that should be going str heavy. Still salvageable by going sr2 and praying that we get the 250 stat reset pots that kToS got. Or just remaining dex heavy and know that you're gimping your damage until you get a didel and transcend it.
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>>154540446
should've went Rogue desu
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>>154540589

The funny thing about RO is it had quests and an actual story and both were updated every patch.

No one realised this due to the absolutely fucking terrible translation the game had (and the lack of any actual indication of quests or a quest log).
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>>154540509
>believing lies
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>>154533715
It would work well. Pretty sure Divine Stigma is a level2 debuff too so you'll land it passed those prophecys of the enemy in pvp.

>>154533962
Druid's only synergy with krivis is that they share INT scaling abilities. Krivis has enough debuffs to assist in the plague doctor incinerate and that build would also set him up well enough for daoist too. Its win/win in my books.
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>>154540747

To this day I'm still collecting collections and leveling up (alts and attributes).
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>>154539541
Yes mom
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>>154540843
>quests and dungeons 1->330
>1-> 380 and 430 and 480 and 530 too
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>>154540589
So you literally can't do anything but grind.

>>154540714
The funnier thing is that it was based off a comic that I doubt many people have read. Even the anime had basically nothing to do with it.

Seriously though how can you call RO a sandbox when it doesn't have anything you can even do? Making campfires and knocking fireballs around is more sandboxy than anything RO offered. I'd even go so far as to say there's nothing you can do in RO that you can't do in ToS, and even more things you can do in ToS, and the only thing you can bring up is "Well I have a few more choices on where to grind" or "Muh WoE".
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>>154539541
that hair, hair color and hair accessory when?
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>>154537608
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/how-do-you-move-towers-in-gbl/326629/80

>katz post ruined a small guild's hope & dream
wtf i hate katz now
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>>154540898
>Deathweaver
>with a lv 220+
What are you doing son?
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WHEN
H
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R8
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>>154541853
Holy shit, hard not to feel for those guys.
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>>154541948
She was clearly pointing at the two cards she got.
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>>154541853
If they decided to quit and move out because of something like this, then they weren't going to stick around for much long anyway. MMO hoppers really are locusts to the genre.
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>>154541853
Probably for the best. GvG scene is truly cancerous.
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>>154531519
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>>154541853

Better they learn the truth of it now rather than after spending however much time and silver on trying to get enough gear to be "competitive".

I'd like to say that I hope this kind of thing shocks IMC into actually doing something about this mess of a game, preferably with actual communication with the playerbase involved, but yeah. It's IMC, so that clearly won't happen.
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Is Evac 230-252 faster than alemeth's 212-228 because of the exp reset?
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>>154543079
Evac is literally the comfiest grind in the game
>no warp holes
>no 3k damage mages fucking you in the ass
>respawn at the start if you die
>giant easy to kill enemies
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>>154543141
sorry mate i havent reached evac yet, is it really that good? like 1 level per hour?
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>>154543182
yeah it'll be at least 1 level an hour even in the late 240s. I already miss it, fuck Storage grind.
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>>154543251
how about early 230s?
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>>154543274
about 45 minutes per level if the party is good
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>>154543319
thank you
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>>154542886
DELETE THIS
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>>154543403
Why should she? Its 100% true. How else would you justify only Evergarden getting 2-3 times as much TP as anyone else in the guild?
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are you gonna sit with your ToS crush at tonight's meetup?
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>>154544268
I always sit with my crush
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>>154544268
Yes, like i have been doing for awhile now!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEGIS_(Ragnarok_Online)

ToS private server when
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>>154545670
But it'll be shitty
>x50 exp rate, grinding to 8th circle in a week
>x100 drop rate, all shit that can't be sold anyway
>Everyone at bees and prison, never playing
>Even more bots than the current game
>No new costumes or hats or weapons, because no one's going to bother to 3d model them
>No new maps for the same reason
>No one actually knows how to fix any of the deep bugs, just complain
>Shitty animu music replacing most of the soundtrack
>Oh but they figured out how to model wings that go on the back
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>>154545963
>Playing high rate server
You did this to yourself
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>>154546093
This official server is already a high rate server
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>>154544268
Will the guild leaders be at the meetup and which ones have slots?
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>>154546342
Lolipan should be there and Futureproof has slots
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>>154546342
FutureProof would like to have you!
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>>154538358
http://sora-amaori.tumblr.com/
>>
Blessing is currently at +357 (I'm in all tank gear) and I am starting to wonder if my buff will still be helpful with Rank8 considering all the big numbers I've seen seeing.
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>>154547442
It will once you are geared with the new hit but Pardoner buffs are fucked
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>>154547545
New stuff? Will there be plate armor with spr?
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>>154546342
I'm pretty sure every guild is recruiting besides Ohayou. Just pick one with a name you like or people you like.
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You shitty motherfuckers.
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>EU hours begins
>thread almost die
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>>154535645
Nice manual on how to kill guilds
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=643
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>>154550259
>The buff duration for the new EXP Tomes will not decrease while in Klaipeda, Orsha, Fedimian or while matchmaking.

good update
>>
was there supposed to be a reason awakening enemies all run towards the exit portal?
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>>154550259
You would think that something involving real money, like a ranking bug, would take priority, yet its broken for 4-5 weeks now. The itos staff are incapable of doing anything. And you retards still play this trash and give them money. Fucking savages.
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>>154550861
Your video game money is not real money and has no value, nor do the items you can buy with it.
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>>154550815
You are in the demon world. Demons want to escape and invade our world. It's poetry.

just kidding lmao, it's probably just a bug and they use the player's initial position.
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>this is the new fencer c3 costume
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>Still no bluehound on the banlist
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>>154550943
You're a retarded idiot autist.
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>Readjustment of Team Battle League & Guild Battle times for [EU]Fedimian (dead server)
>while on Silute, they removed the popular 13:00 and kept the 6:00 am that no one plays

Holy shit
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>>154551181
you're just butthurt you don't get free monopoly money
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>>154551487
I'm not even playing, you poorfag asshole trash scum.
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>>154551316
>Silute
who cares
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>>154538609
This artist is pretty good
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>>154538624
One at 272, 14 class, another one I don't use much anymore at 245 and two lowbies

I'm ready to become the doppelmadara
>>
>get invited into Crimson
>join
>out of the gate they "strongly suggest" you do an exploit that they claim is not an exploit
Hahaha, holy shit. I said I have to pick up my brother to buy myself some time.
Now what do I do. Post screenshots of that? Or just leave? Obviously if I do that exploit, they'll blackmail me forever, but angering them will destroy me too.
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>>154552279
Cuckgarden... just delete you are self out of this game...
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>>154550259

RANK 8 HERE WE COME BOYS

WELL NOT REALLY BECAUSE MISSION RUNS GIVE LIKE 1 MILLION EXP EACH AND I NEED 200 MILLION MORE EXP SO EVEN A +300% BONUS WONT DO SHIT
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>>154552356
Don't bundle me with that second grade shitter, I need legit advice.
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>>154552356
isn't that autist on ohayou
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>>154552404
Where else this unguildable shitter would be lmao.
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>>154552389
Grind.
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>>154552465
she said she joined crimson
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>>154552478

MAYBE I WILL

AND I'LL USE MY +300% EXP BONUS WHILE GRINDING

OH WAIT, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY 4X EXP BECAUSE IT'S ADDED TO ANOTHER MODIFIER RATHER THAN MULTIPLIED AT THE END SO +300% EXP GAIN IS REALLY MORE LIKE 1.9X EXP GAINED

RANK 8 LADS WHEW I CAN ALMOST TASTE IT
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>>154550259

>New event gives you a necklace
>It's +20 to all stats, +1 AOE attack ratio and decent magic defence
>It only lasts 2 weeks
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>>154552703
You sound incredibly upset and I don't get which other multiplier tyou're talking about
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>>154552580
false flagging
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>>154550259
Why IMC care so much for Fedimian when there are like 350-400 players there, 100 are bots.
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>>154552780

The exp boosts are useless. Too short and don't give enough exp to even justify using them. Basically they're a waste of money.

As for how exp earned is calculated.
Every mob has a base amount of exp
Certain mobs have a modifier (special and elite is 2x, bosses is more, dungeon mobs have unique amounts too)
Every map has a modifier.

If a mob has 400 exp, is normal and on a map with 3x modifier, it gives 1200 exp.
You would think a +300% bonus would take this 1200 exp and multiply it by 4, giving 4800 exp. But it doesn't, it is added to the map modifier so you get a 6x modifier for a total of 2400 exp.

Same applies to token bonuses and team level bonus.

Because of this, the only time it's really worth using exp tomes is dungeon runs and mission runs. But mission runs give trash exp, most dungeons also give trash exp and there are times when you're just not in level range to run dungeons.
>>
http://steparu.com/latest-news/2150-tree-of-savior-online-mobile-version-is-coming

hehehe
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>>154552982
wtf i hate per map exp modifiers now!

IMC should remove them so we get our full bonus exp!
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>>154551316
Silute players aren't as whales as some euro are.
Just saying there is a retard here buying like 1000 megaphones everyday.
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>>154553058
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>>154553080

Funny thing is, after level 280 they actually do and instead just give every mob 4x the normal amount of exp.

So it's worth using them to grind on the maps that'll be added with rank 8. Except it's not really because you also get enough cards to hit 330 in a day or two without any grind anyway.

IMC just has no fucking clue anymore, do they?
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>>154552982
Even if it's lower than advertised, it's still a significant boost. Field grinding in some maps rewards a lot more exp than dungeon runs, this exp boost tome wouldn't make dungeon and mission runs give better exp than open field grinding
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>>154553162
They're only giving the players what they asked for.
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>>154553186

Yeah, an organized party can make a bit better use of the tomes. But they're still shit.

At somewhere like Mavens you'll go from 9 million exp an hour to something like 16.5 million an hour. Which is an extra 7.5 million exp, which is a whopping 1/3rd or so of a level when you'll be grinding at Mavens.
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>>154553058

>Game doesn't run at a stable FPS on my $1600 PC
>Somehow IMC think they can make a mobile version of the game

What'll it run at? -999 FPS?
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>>154553294
Then don't use them.
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>>154553294
Is 9mil the usual exp at maven? I remember getting more than that yesterday, maybe 11mil
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>>154553376

Depends on your party composition. It's usually between 8 and 12 million.

>>154553365

Just pointing out how shitty they are.
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>>154553376
Back in my days getting 15mil was the norm.
20 mil if you had a top tier party.
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>>154553514
What changed, grandpa?
>>
>thinks I made a lot of money
>it all disappears in an instant for damage attributes

Alright good night folks, I am drained.
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>>154553627

15-20 million at Mavens isn't normal.

The only thing that changed is his memory. Dementia is more common in old people.
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>>154553627
Noskilled new users can't into powerplay@maven.
Also, alts. Shitty ghetto alts are too shitty to grind efficiently.
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>>154553673

>See flashing gold mob
>Swell it
>Easy 700k silver
>Easy 50 item drops that'll sell for another few million
>All this turns into about +7 attribute levels
>For a whopping +21 damage/defence
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>>154553058
y tho, with jtos, ktos and itos and wolfknights IMC just shouldn't have enough manpower for that.
Maybe it's true that ktos will be dropped near the year's end, but still
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>>154553696
What? getting 15m/h in Abbey is still pretty easy
Storage got fucked though
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>>154552279
Post it and leave the guild.
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>>154553839

You should probably go grind at Mavens again.

10 million/hour is about average now. A shitter party will struggle with 8 million/hour and a good party will probably end up with just over 12 million/hour.

When was the last time you went to Mavens grandpa? 1944?
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>>154553361

I think that a cellphone will run the game exactly like we run it on PCs now, it's the one core problem that kills this game.
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>>154554008

So a silky smooth 1-5 FPS in any area with more than 5 players?
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How the perfect maven party works?

Chronolinker
swellbuffer
taunt dps
archer dps
cleric 2 whatever?

>elememer

elememer can't swell mobs for exp and I'm not dropping the chrono
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>>154553830
They like shooting themselves in the foot
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>>154552279

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdaVcXcals
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>>154553673
You don't quote yourself in 3rd person, tumbr shithead.
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>>154554073

More or less. All you need is taunt, healer and lots of DPS. You don't really need to get too much into it. I mean, a Chrono is fine, but you're taking them for more DPS only. Same with a Thaumaturge, the 2x exp every now and then is fine, but all you really want from them is more DPS.
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>>154552279
10 euros you talk about zoom, in that case you're a moron.
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>>154553920
I've been averaging 14m to 15m an hour with the two or theee parties ive done within the last few days at maven.

I also had a great Storage grind party of 18m/hr too.
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>>154547293
How do I save the high resolution versions of those images?
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>>154554318

Grandpa please. It's 2016! Not 1944! I know it only seems like yesterday but that was over 70 years ago!
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>>154554356
Anon my age has nothing to do with this!

I've only grinded at these places a few times now because i quested most of the way up.
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=640

This event is going to be a pain in the ass.
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>>154553431
Well, my party had two elememes (one would make Rugal proud and the other had runecaster instead of warlock), a pd-priest, a wugusapcannon and a doppelmemer
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>>154554318
Where you using tomes?
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Zoomy is perfectly legal.
There's nothing wrong with zooming out and see x5 screens to find bosses easier.
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>>154539280
Underrated shitpost.
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>>154554637
I ain't gunna try
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>>154554637
25 Tree Root Crystals a day and you cry about it being a pain? Grow up, anon, you don't have a job so you have the time.
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>>154535823
I never understood the sense of superiority you non-hopping retards seem to feel.
>Haha I stick with eating my shit, MMO hopping faggots stop eating shit once it stinks, but not me! No no I just keep eating shit hoping it'll be delicious but it never is! I'm wasting my life and I'm better than you!
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>>154537958
Literally everyone who posts this image names it the source. You're either the only one doing it or all the fans of it are cool guys.
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>>154555516
From what I understand not all crystal roots will have the event crystal. Could be wrong though.
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>>154550259
>Please note that the buff duration of the normal EXP Tome will continue to decrease in cities or while matchmaking.
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>>154541976
What about this is so good? I don't have any idea how the wolf works and I barely know how zombies work.
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>>154556036
dead inside
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40 physical atk hat vs 60 critical attack hat
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>>154556106
Why not both?
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>>154556241

$$$

I wonder, if you have 40 attack, you do +40 damage and +60 if you crit right? since you can't crit 100% of the time, I think that the 40 physical attack one is better. Or I'm missing something?
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>>154555881
invincibility+monk skills
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>>154556385
The +40 damage raise your general damage. The +60 crit damage ignore the defense reduction during the critical damage calculation. I don't have the formula at hand, but you should check out the pastebin at the OP. It should have a link to a PDF called "ToS Mechanics", there you can find the formula for normal damage and critical damage.

As for the hats, normally going for a Physical Attack up hat is preferred to the Critical Attack one. Unless you can crit like at a machine gun's fire ratio.
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>>154554073
You don't get double EXP from swell

But you have to put in double the amount of damage to kill them (unless you time it luckily)

Swell body is shit for EXP/h
>>
Is this a good musket build?
A2Ranger3FalcMuscket
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>>154556785
>Ranger3
Why?
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>someone just shouted accusing a guild here of cheating
>shout channel chimp out

Did something happen? What cheat?
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>>154556995
probably related to this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAczu_F3DLs
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>>154556995
>varena
>not meyn
>not azor
>not Wil

who are you?
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>>154556995
Please be some top guild unmasked as using hook or stacking swords everywhere
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>>154557283
its a Rodel skill
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>>154556995
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/how-do-you-move-towers-in-gbl/326629
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>>154556385
>I wonder, if you have 40 attack, you do +40 damage
No.
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>>154556995

Happens everyday in Silute, but people accuse then of hook while the real cheating was channel crashing for weapons, bee bots and boss monopoly (with crashing, of course).

Now after months, they are rich and topping everything and farming ET 20f - they don't cheat anymore since they don't need.
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>>154558057
>sao
not only shitter and retard, but also shit eater
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>>154552279
Fuck off Kinte
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>>154553920

Went to Maven just yesterday, we pulled 13.5m/h, without tome. No chrono to speed things up, and our taunt died few times. Maybe you're just bad at the game.
>>
I just talked to Alysse, apparently Crimson monitors /tosg/ too.
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>>154558316
Of course Moe ``The Spy'' Cucki monitors the thread.
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>>154558316
who?
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>>154557431

>spectate us if you think we're cheating!!111
>okay, we'll all spectate you
>jiiiiiii.jpg
>gets utterly rekt
>but before that use hook last minute to try destroy enemy tower from long range
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Aren't those crimson scums annoying?
Especially that green hair chrono.
He's an idiot!
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>>154559419
They probably moved the tower closer to their spawn, and you joined after the fact so it appeared to be in proper place for you.
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>>154556875
I don't want to get QS3 there and better costume rangerC3.
I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>154558316
Why do those cunts even go to meetups, again?
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>>154559673
Ranger1Scout1Rogue1 is better.
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>>154559539
I don't think so. The tower's considered an NPC monster technically so I don't think there's a reason the position would reset.
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>>154559797
The game doesn't takes default start position for whatever reason when spectating.
If you ever watch PvP arena match, and a round is in progress, everyone will appear in respective spawn points and move according to that position.
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W-where is the 'Guinea pigs will now be ride-able' text in the patch notes?
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>>154553920
>10 million/hour is about average now. A shitter party will struggle with 8 million/hour and a good party will probably end up with just over 12 million/hour.
eh?
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Summoning a Goddess
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@154560164
Fuck off idiot.
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>>154560037
Hamster riding is for superior nippon only filthy gaijin shut up and buy your penguin to fund the REAL version of the game.
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>>154560164
>Swift step
>Sacrament
>Reflect shield
Evrytiem
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>>154560771

>daino

and swift step is nice when you're facing penalty

t. swordshitter
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>>154560771
there is Daino, who cares
>>
>>154561030
>>154560876
I do, because there's always someone to unironically cast these buffs when there's no Daino.

>Swift meme
Meh, if you have a healer you shouldn't be dying so easily, but it's a valid point. Also, get plate mastery, Capybara
>>
Broadhead is OP as hell.
Fletchers are like the non-broken version of wugu.
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>>154560164
Elememe makes a party automatically top tier for grinding maven

Too bad no one plays elememe anymore that still needs to grind
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>>154561576
>Too bad no one plays elememe anymore that still needs to grind
I've seen a lot of people still rolling elememe, I guess they didn't heard the news.
>>
Which guild erps the most
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>>154561731
Kill yourself
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>>154561682

the only news that I know is that frost cloud with the new weapons deals 500k deploy and forget aoe damage

>muh 5m mdef mobs

they made this just to force party play
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>>154561806
>500k
Proofs?
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>>154561806
That's a load of shit
You need to have absurdly high transcended Rod/staff for this number

And that's only on low mdef (1k) mobs

You'll still be completely useless against high mdef mobs 2.5k - 3k
And there's way too many of them
Might as well bring phys dps instead of elemes
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>>154561731

Ohayou
>>
>magic resistant mobs are a thing

How is this a thing?
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>>154562401
How do I join
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>>154559695

Say that non-anonymously next time you passive aggressive beta cuck.

This is why you're alone and your waifu wouldn't love you if she was real.
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>>154562553
pls don't bully cuckgarden
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>>154561731
Futureproof in private. Just ask Healmage.
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>>154561806
>500k
Play the game.
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>>154562478
Shit tier r8 mobs have well over 1k mdef, some higher level elites have 3k, at least double the amount of def they have. Armor break is a thing while magic break isn't.

Actually, now that I think of it, doesn't shock status decrease INT and SPR? You could reduce their spr by a fuckton with things like Dragon Soar, Headshot, Zornhau and principally Crown if you actually manage to land the debuff on them, but I don't know if any wizard class gets a shock debuff
>>
What is the "Pepe" of Tree of Savior?
>>
>>154562553
>implying I have a waifu
>implying I'm not just shitposting for the sake of shitposting

Thanks for replying to my hour old post, have a (You) too
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>>154562553
>talking about cucks
>literally slurps on crimson dick and swallows

fcukin topkek m8
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Where is the Featherfoot?
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>>154563250
She looks retarded, more so than the average Maggi character
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>>154563346
She has to constantly keep her arms spread so the boob-hider cloth stays in place.
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>>154563250
Man she already looks like she's kinda floating

I always thought it looked weird her posture, but seeing as how featherfoot can fly it all makes sense now
>>
>>154562553
KEK
>>
>>154562914
It was inevitable, elelocks were pretty much the focus of any party not centered around world bossing and were insanely popular to boot, so it's natural the devs would go for an indirect nerf rather than nerfing quickcast like what should have happened in the first place.
>>
>>154563705
Yeah but this is not a nerf
It's a complete slaughter of the wizard pve DPS department

Wizards are not even remotely viable now as DPS source
Like at all
>>
>>154563625
>Featherfoots curse people by walking around in shoes made of hair and feathers and blood

>Give the the ability to fly
>>
>>154563625
So far the only thing Rurawa chan makes float is my boner
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>>154563846
Feathers means bird and birds fly
duh
>>
>>154563828
>Wizards are not viable DPS because one enemy has 3k magic def
>>
>>154563949
>one enemy

hahaha
dude
just go through the kr.neet npc files
there are dozens with 2.5k+ mdef
>>
>>154563828
That was one super cherrypicked enemy that had 3k mdef and you're expected to transcend equipment+have useful cards now.

The game's become gear grind since people can't handle leveling as seen by the x8 xp tomes coming out, base damage Frost Cloud won't be enough anymore.
>>
>>154564038
There aren't even dozens of new enemies.
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>>154559419
Shit, so it's real
>>
>>154563625
Wasn't there some myth about flying featherfoot? Bone pointing, Kurdaitcha and cursing in general is mentioned in Wikipedia
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>>154562535
whisper beethoven
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>>154564109
Has any geared Korean ele player tried facing such mobs? Or have they all given up on the class?
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>>154564240
A featherfoot is a sorcerer in Australian Aboriginal spirituality. A featherfoot is usually a bad spirit who kills people. In most traditional Aboriginal beliefs, there is no such thing as a natural death. Every death is caused by evil spirits or spells. It is usually because of an enemy, who wants revenge for something.[1]

A featherfoot is so named because they are believed to have supernatural powers, including the ability to fly. He wears special shoes made of feathers (usually emu) and hair, stuck together with human blood. Scholars say that the shoes leave no tracks (footprints)

Literally from Wikipedia
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>>154564038
Whilst this may be exaggerated, there's actually a whole lot of 2000+ mdef monsters
They also have very high HP values

Frost cloud will be completely irrelevant on those because you're barely breaking their native mdef even with a good transcended weapon.

Think warlock/linker is the best future of magic damage wizards
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Where should I buy silver from?
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Dear Plasmagica/ranking CNL official:
PLEASE GIVE ME A BOYFRIEND RIGHT NOW
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>>154564109
>super cherrypicked
Kinda, as that was an elite, but special mobs still have well over 1k mdef, I think some later Special ones get close to 2k mdef. Normal is irrelevant as 160k hp will probably be nothing by then

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/npcs?lvlmin=281&lvlmax=329&order=lvla&f=1&page=12
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>>154562553
kys alyssesaki
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>>154564950
>BOY
kys
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>>154562553
lol cuck insulting cucks
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>>154564415
Literally ctrl+f'd "fly" before that and found no results. I guess I should eat something and rest a bit
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>>154564950
Why do I see people from cnl get namedropped by droves, but I hear nothing about their Templar?
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http://2p.com/44783783_1/IMC-Games-amp-Nexon-Joined-Forces-for-Tree-of-Savior-Mobile-by-MMORPGmaster.htm
uhmmm
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>>154565719
The only two I see name dropped are koenigger and lalacunt
The rest are mostly literal whos
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>>154561382
>He doesn't know
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>>154566185
It's the death of ToS
Now they are going to make this mobage and fuck off with this shit, rank8 is the last rank we get
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>>154566482
Excuse moi?
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>>154561382
>you can't cast more buffs when daino us up, because it's bad habit
ok?
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>>154566185
>>154566696
Game is dead! Dev team is going to be reallocated! Kek!
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>tfw got missinfoed by a forumshitter
The x2 damage on Werewolf definitely doesn't work, I've been testing it for around 30 minutes now and I never got more damage than usual.
Don't waste your cards.
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>>154567171
Vau is a known shitter.
I can't believe you took his words with anything more than the tiniest grain of salt.
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>>154566940
None of these buffs are really that useful, swift step even has an option to only affect the caster. Are you telling me you never had your aspersion overridden by Reflect shield or something similar before?
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>>154567346
>Vau is a known shitter.
I have no idea who this idiot is, I don't frequent the forum much.
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>>154567452
Not with Daino active, no.
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>>154566420

Koenig is too busy with his new gf to namedrop himself anymore so it's just Lala and her fans now
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>>154567346
But it says NotVau
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>>154567501
He's a shitter in-game as well.
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>>154567346
It's NotVau, his evil twin brother
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>>154564109
What happened to the Chapparition cards hype? Was it idiotically nerfed?
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>>154567752
Still there, but the buff time is too short to make use of, unless you have an huge nuke - like Dragoon2 has Dethrone.
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>>154567752
Physical classes can do the same with glass moles
>>
>listening to Madoka Rebellion OST while playing
>another guild member quit today
>looking at past screenshots to reminisce the early days of the guild
>remember the open world GvG we had
>best moments were had when we were at war with one guild, losing the battle until another guild who were at war with our enemy as well joined
>look at current song on playlist
>"We're Here For You"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECKAaYk1Lzk

tfw new players will never know the feeling of allied GvG
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>>154567838
You mean unless you have fast hitting multihits like FC or fireballs, right?
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I hope with the new GBL times tomorrow some people come back.
Now the time is finally good for it
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>>154567549
>Her
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>>154567752
>>154567869
Actually better, Glass Mole lasts 6s while Chappy 6.
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>>154567972

Capy-kun, did you pick up the new guy?
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>>154568110
I picked a guy yesterday, havn't seen him online yet today
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>>154567921
I can see it working with FC, because the execution time is shorter than the buff time, so you would get 100% of it.

No idea about Fireballs, but seems worth if it works with already deployed ones, so you can stack several and use a SP potion for huge burst.
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>>154567972
Hello Capy.
I don't have a PvP character.
You won't see me ever again.
Have a nice day, see you soon.
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>>154530402
>Bluehound exposed
Wait wat?
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>>154568058

>Hasn't heard lala's voice
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>>154567972
>coming back to this forever buggy piece of shit when you can waste your time elsewhere
keep dreaming
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>>154560037
>>154560747
>Hamster riding is for superior nippon only
no. not even Ktos has that. it was missinfo. its not gonna come
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>>154568242
>You won't see me ever again.
>see you soon
What?

Anyway, most of us don't have PvP characters, we'll just try to queue and see how it goes.
Or just log in to say hi ;_;
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>>154568242
Pretty sure you are just falseflagging but in case you aren't forced to take part in GvGs
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>>154568323
Nigger already packing his stuff after being exposed as a filthy hooker64, he also goes full damage control on forum for 2 days
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>>154568324
I have tho, I'm in their discord
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>>154568687
Link?
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>>154568932
>>154568324
>>154568058
>they didnt meet her IRL and 'made the cow give milk'
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>>154568989
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cheat-report-klaipeda-bluehound-using-aoe-and-equipment-hidden-slots-in-team-battle-league/326639

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cheat-report-klaipeda-bluehound-using-aoe-and-equipment-hidden-slots-in-team-battle-league/326639
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>>154567921
No, those sort of boosts work better with fast burst skills, FC outlasts the boost by a bit, shit like DT would be better with it
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>>154564950
>>154568324
>>154569060

Nice shitposting lalaco
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>>154558316
Uhmm no one has talked to me. In fact not a single person here has said a thing to me since this shitposting started. Stop hiding behind your keyboard and stop lying please.
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>>154568989
Found it nvm
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>>154569371
Nice misinfo, Crimson member.
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>that one guild member you hate
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>>154564520
MMOTANK
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>>154569590
(You)
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>>154568324
>>154568932
I want the evidence
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>>154569593
Fuck off random Ohayou member
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>>154569593
All of my guild members are amazing
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>>154569593
there was 2
one left
and the other turned to be less annoying as fuck and that person isn't playing much recently
but then there is one new person. so kinda 2 again
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>>154569737
>every shitpost is Ohayou
You're the shitposter, anon
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>>154569742
Those are all me.
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>>154569851
no.
first and second are similar. but the new third is different.
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>>154569593
>tfw not in a guild so can't be hated or loved
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>>154569720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnpwixB7P8
its lala and jessica is plasma
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>>154569835
Not every shitposter is from ohayou, just 90% of them.
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what's the best class to play with mouse contols?

it's the only way i don't get the amd cpu head glitching.
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>>154569720
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>>154569593
>Not that one guild member you admire as an individual and would share a beer with
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>>154570608
I HATE THEM ALLLLL
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>>154570350
Archer/Wizard both work better with mouse, archer probably more so since bunnyhopping with Wiz on mouse I find annoying.
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>hating guild members
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>>154570724
>not hating annoying faggots because they are 'in the guild'
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>not hating everdotardsubhumangarden
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>>154570640
I don't dislike anyone on my guild, they're all pretty chill people
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>>154570784
>Not simultaneously loving and hating the biggest faggot you've met on ToS
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>>154568242
I am not going to become PvP focused
Just saying now the timing for GBL is decent and doing it for some TP if possible is now viable
None is forced to join in GvG, but if there are people interested in it from tomorrow i can reliable queue up for it
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>>154571132
*unzips proxy*
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>>154570890
>tfw get bullied by everyone in my guild
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>>154571389
You probably like it, be honest
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>>154571132
Add another option for __(You)__ please
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Can you fucktards do something useful?
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>>154572071
t. Alysee
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>>154572182
t. Retardgarden
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>>154572302
EG ignore him, come to the meetup
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>>154572380
What did evergarden do wrong? Honest question.
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How is this even a choice?
For a /tosg/ meetup, someone who excels at blowjobs has much more use than traitorous swine.
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>>154572501
Nothing

t. not EverGarden
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Looks like beet is giving out TP bonuses for spamming the poll and save cuckgarden from segregation.
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>>154571132
>>154572302
>>154572621
as if they care.
not everyone here is a tool and follows TOSG's Orders. that was only the 'Windgod'
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>>154571132

Why is there no option for all of the above? What a shit poll.
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>>154573000
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>>154573282
>>154573151
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>>154573282
Yeah must be one of those Ohayous
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https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/154039781/#154069265
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>>154573429
Are you implying anyone else would actually defend that piece of shit?
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>>154573456
>>154573000
wtf i hate Evergarden now
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cant you niggas stfu about both of these fags?
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>>154562914
No clue how I'm gonna kill those 3k mdef mobs without stacking Chapp cards. I'm a Pyro3/Link2/FF going FF2 and even if I get a 600 dmg weapon, transcend it to 100% and max out Fireball or Blood Bath attributes, I'll still only be tickling those mobs.
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Ohayou likes to shitpost, FP likes to shitpost, why not instead of shitposting against one another, shitpost together against a common enemy like Crimson?
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>>154574026
Discord isn't tosg, cumgarden.
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>>154574026
On which discord? I'm in three /tosg/ discords and didn't see him shit talk anyone in either of them.
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>>154562914
>>154573871
has any in ktos even encountered these mythical "3k mdef" mobs? I swear you're making a mountain out of an anthill here

There are people that are fucking capped already in ktos and clearly these "3k mdef" mobs either didnt ever show up or it never bothered them
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>>154574095

>he's not on the fourth /tosg/ discord
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>>154574059
>common enemy like Crimson
You mean, cockgoblingarden's enemy?

He probably doesn't even hate Crimson that much, it's just that beethoven pays double for anti-crimson shitposting.
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>>154574026
>Spreading lies
>>
crimson is not /tosg/ btw
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>>154574059
With your shitposting powers combined will they finally win a GvG against Crimson? Find out on the next episode of Salty Casuals.
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>>154574126
or they did quests in party so it wasn't that bad.

wiz solo questing will be kill/pain-in-ass
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>>154574026
this
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>>154574378
HOLY SHIT CONFIRMED
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>>154574169
>Hat left Ohayou because he believed in the Ohayou hates Crimson meme even though it's all just falseflaggers
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>>154574470
Ohayou here, we actually love Crimson
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So I'm new to this game
I'm really enjoying Cryomancer, is it dumb to go all the way to c3? The fucking snowball attack is amazing.

Level 32 so far. Been dumping stats evenly into INT and SPR. I'm absolutely demolishing bosses in 2 shots of Ice Pike, but dying equally fast. Should I be putting points into anything else like VIT? Or should I rely more on equipment defense than HP?

Which skills are the most essential? Gust looks pretty useless to me.
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>>154574470
Okay reddit-kun, but who exactly are you quoting?
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>>154574126
>has any in ktos even encountered these mythical "3k mdef" mobs?
i'd look for them, but my ktos is still being stupid and i cant play that now.

nexon please..
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>>154574660
Cryo3Chrono3 is a common support build, but unfortunately it's a full CON(VIT) build as well
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>>154574727
THAT'S NOT A BOY
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>>154574660
>Cryo
is not a damage class. you will not kill things fast at high lvls, no matter what stats.

but its awesome crowdcontrol. Cryo3+Chrono3 is one of the best support wizards and they usually go high or full CON+HP cause no good dps anyways

never put points into SPR (as non-cleric)
quests give a ton of SP potions and at high lvl you just buy better sp pots from market
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>>154574660
It's also worth noting that no one goes for SP stat, though
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>>154574660
>I'm really enjoying Cryomancer, is it dumb to go all the way to c3?
Not at all, Cryo3 is an amazing support.

>Level 32 so far. Been dumping stats evenly into INT and SPR
Cryo is a support, their damage is bad later and scales terribly, so INT is useless.
SPR is even more useless, mages should never invest in that stat.
You should pump CON (VIT) now and chose chrono3 later if you want to be THE pve support, or you could make a pvp build with cryo2kino3warlock.
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Please stop bullying Evergarden everyone. I like him a lot, he doesn't deserve this
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>>154574969
>>154574830
Well shit. are there stat/skill resets in this?
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All you fowl mouth whores need to be punished!
Just play the game
Stop Name-dropping and go back to talking about the game
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>>154575047
>skill
yes. but in TP shop

>stat
very rare from events only

at Lv32 you best just remake the char. takes a few hours only.
or keep using it. a handfull of wrong stats barely matter later (as support)
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>>154574660

don't waste points into SPR, spr is bad.

Cryos usualyl have a support role since they damage falls of hard, but the utility stays strong.

Cryomancer 3 -> Chronomancer 3 (full support)
Cryomancer 3 -> Psychokino 3 (support but can solo very well and absolute pvp if full con) both great builds that involves cryomancer 3
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>>154575023
Fuck off Beet.
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>>154575047
The only stat reset the game has was given in a special event a while back. You could either make a new character or keep your stats like that until a new event shows up. It's important to know that the cryo chrono build needs a leveling buddy!
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>>154574676
Go back to /jp/
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>>154575047
You're too low to worry about that.
32 less con won't really matter.
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>>154574660
First things first: RESEARCH YOUR BUILD.

Cryo is a support class and can be used as a gimmick class if you pick up Runecaster. Cryo3 is usually best paired with Chrono3 for amazing CC. Also works fairly well with Sorcerer builds.

As far as stats go: SPR is generally useless for 99% of the builds out there, so stop putting points into it. Int is purely for damage, so unless you intend to go damage build, it's pretty useless for you.

Damage taken works like: monster (physical/magical attack - your physical/magical defense) * damage bonus. Bosses, elites and dungeon mobs have higher damage multipliers. This means high defense is king and those player shops that sell Aspersion buffs are amazing for minimizing the damage you take.

Essential skills for Cryo3 are Subzero Shield (10), Frost Wall (15), Snowball and Tree (5). You'll want at least 3-4 in Ice Bolt: having more points lets you release the spell faster for less damage and mana, but you still get the freeze. One point in Ice Blast (it aggroes enemies) and Gust (decent damage early on when you knock stuff in your ice wall). Rest in Ice Pike.
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>>154571132
rip crimson
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>>154575212
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>>154574660
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How do I remove this?
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>>154571132
>101 votes
>thread has 102 IPs after 15 hours
legit
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>>154575949
go to the minigame you started at some 220+ map and 'cancel' it

>where
hah, there are many. no way to tell
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This is a good feeling.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/how-do-you-move-towers-in-gbl/326629/99

>toxic = spread wrong info in forum, believe wrong info in forum, and further force the ideal to everyone else while claiming is to teach newbie I toxic? lol, beat my swordsmen plz.

This cannot be real. Is it an actual guild member or is it one of you fuckers falseflagging them?
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>>154576356
I see, thanks.
I guess I'm going to look which map has minigames and go in every each one to try disabling this.
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>>154576518
Here's your you, fucking cuck
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>>154575852
5k players is like top 10 in MMO you know
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>>154576714
>toxic = spread wrong info in forum
is that what toxic means? why does LeL use Toxic so much then when describing the meta?
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>>154577027
>7k player meme images
>and that laughing beard guy in red shirt
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>tfw no cute fencer gf to bend me over her knee and spank my bare bottom with the flat side of her rapier
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>>154576518
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>>154576518
>Memeganos card
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>>154576714
Not sure if this is someone from here trolling or just a legit retard.
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>>154576518
>6 Ellaganos
>0 Nuaele
>Glass Bracelets
>Fucking Strength Pendant
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I want to give up but my guild won't let me.
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>>154576714

>he posted a video

HE'S GOING ALL OUT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPYw7BUotXE
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>>154577753
3 of them are 10 star, the others 1 star as placeholder(better than empty slots)
I have a Nuaele card but I am not sure what to do with it. It's not really worth it unless you can stack over 5 of them, and my equipment will never be mdef based anyway.
I've had those Glass Bracelets for a long time. Haven't had time to replace them for the new hotness Rhevisans.
I never found a Petamion, and the silver cost of it is too high when I could've gotten Futureproofed attributes instead.
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Hello anons, its my first time grinding evac and people told me that 230-236 is far longer than 236-252

is this true? i get that theres an exp reset but 236-252 is a bit far, no?
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>>154578392

you should have spread the cards exp, having seven Lv 8 cards would be better IMO, it only takes 5 tp to remove a card without downgrade!

glass bracs are still nice to have, you have slithering anyway, memelock is not realy a issue, while block penetration for someone with 0 str invested is precious. of coruse, the best you can do is work on multiple gear sets and switch according.
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>>154576714
>tfw you are playing the same game as this retard
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>>154578760
evac is not bad. only elememe suffers cause mobs are ice
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>>154578760
>grinding evac
Just do quests now, you should only grind Maven.
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>create elememe right before the r8 patch kills elememe

Fugg this I hate leveling till 100
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>>154578392
Not having Max Peta is fine I guess, but I'd rather use a Superior Guardian Necklace over Strength Pendant.
Have you considered Glass Moles?
Those will help you burst down beefy targets better if you catch them with Hook.

Ella is a really mediocre card.
Install Excrulon new boss addon and leave one of your character afk at crystal mines 2f, I doubt death weaver is so heavily contested that you can't get a cube, but she is the best way to farm card.
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>>154578760
Evac is pretty comfy with a good group and partly yes to your question, as 236 is exp reset. I usually stop at 246, then card skip storage + part of maven. Alternatively you can skip both evac and storage to grind in maven.
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>>154578806
I considered spreading it, but I don't want to bother de-equipping them. This is fine, really.

About the blockpen from Gla.ss Bracelets, I am still unsure. The damage reduction from Rhvisan seems to heavily outweight the 40 block pen from each.
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>>154579409
>>154578979
>>154578914
Thanks! what level is storage and maven anyways? and yeah I find evac quite comfy, wasnt too hard and mobs dont hit that hard, its.. really comfortable.

as this is my first grinding party (I skipped truffles) and I'm a healer, all I need to do is lay down heal tiles when one of them is 90%> hp right?
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>>154579374
Deathweaver is really an underrated boss
10k reroll cube and her card is cheating cardbattle
>legs
>tall
>long name
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>>154579374
Glass Moles would work, their duration fits perfectly within the Hook Duration. However, Glass Moles aren't such a hot investment for me because they only work on the weaponATK + STR portion of your damage(the value displayed on your stat window). It doesn't affect base damage of skills. Ellaganos might seem really mediocre at first, but they give me what I need the most: Evasion and Accuracy. I am not worried about not doing enough damage in Rank8, I am worried about not hitting people, which is already happening A LOT even now.
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>>154579639
If you skipped truffles, you might not want to skip evac then. Storage is 252 but no one does it after the nerfs. Maven starts at 266 iirc.
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>>154579639
>all I need to do is lay down heal tiles when one of them is 90%> hp right?
Pretty much.

Storage is 252+ and Maven is 265+, but there mobs hurt and will kill you easily with an high level penalty.
>>
I'd grind my dick on evergardens thighs
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>>154579901
I still havent used any level 11s though, is this okay?
>>154579909
can I skip storage then? i figured that if I hit 252 with Evac, I could card my way to class 15? using level 11s?
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>>154580060
>>
>the only people left playing are tosg cuteposters and a bunch of hackers
How did it get this bad
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>>154580107
>I could card my way to class 15?
I don't think so, but you'll be able to skip storage entirely and spend less time in Maven.
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>>154580387
But it's all good
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Is IMC retarded?
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>>154580653
>game can barely run on a high end PC
>let's make a phone version
Wait what
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>>154579374
>Glass mole
>On someone that has fuckall str
No

t. Someone who rolled a dex doppel
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>>154580862
>1k base damage and already full DEX
>10% crit chance is better than outright 70% damage boost
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>>154580653
>IMC
>small company withbarely any programmer
>kToS
>indoToS
>iToS
>jToS
>Wolfknights
>mobile ToS
Ehehe
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>>154569095
>The biggest sperg in TBL makes the thread

Pottery.
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>>154580387
>Game still buggy as shit
>Content Drought
>Game horribly unbalanced
>Lack of communication between staff and players

Gee anon, i dunno
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>>154580653
yes ofc

>>154579901
i still see storage parties. less tho
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>>154581167
>Lack of communication between staff and players
Actually they communicate a lot with Fedimian players for some reasons
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>>154581323
all 10 of them?
>>
>eg/aly shitpost hour
>leave for something, come back
>(Dead)
>(Dead)
>(Dead)
hehehe
>>
Julie would've participated in all these threads.
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>>154581237
With the new quests, you have a choice to skip 1 or 2 grinding spots. Everyone who played the game already knows storage is the worst out of the 4, so while you may see some parties, I doubt they'll be good exp/hr.
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>>154581409
Julie was too good for us.
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>>154581380
Yes but joke aside, IMC really seems to care more about european server than NA or SEA
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>>154581436
i liked storage, and maven

pretty sure many retards screw'd up and are 'stuck' at 25x 26x
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That's really sad.
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Why are retards allowed to theory craft like this?
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>>154581702
>wiz2
>link2
>(IRL friend)
>2 archers
>ideal pt
>(IRL friend)
>(IRL friend)
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>>154581676
So that's why I never get the right amount of TP...
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>>154581025
The punchline us that even with a 80% boost, lolipantsu's rodelero wouldn't reach 1k phys atk, which is lower than some of his skils. He's better off with that dex bonus.
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>>154581876
yes, you need more than 10 IQ.
>>
Someone come farm at mauso lodge 1

And leech me while you're at it
>>
Christ, mission waits are long right now.
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>>154582634
>Let's increase the level range
>But do nothing about level penalty
>So people 20 levels under get one-shot and no exp anyway

Brilliant, IMC.
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>>154582730
you forgot
>let's make a q&a letting them know we know
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>>154582730
I don't die but my lil archer friends always end up being socked in the cheeks.

Is no con seriously a thing?
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>>154582941
Yes no con is a thing
if you're not poor
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>>154581601

Storage is easily the worst

Fucking in the bumfuck of nowhere, magic mobs, a bunch of low-hp shitter archers clog up the map, and if you die you lose silver and get spawned 2 screens away.

I usually tell people to card past Storage and go straight to maven.
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>>154583189
"suck you in minigame" in meth and maven are worst

>mages
aren't that bad, if you got a decent 'tank' and healer

>archers
dont even care about em
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>>154582941

Sure.
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>>154583189
The worst part of dying there is going through two maps of no man's land.
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>>154583189
>spawned 2 screens away.
>>154583624

just keep that side quest tele until you outlvl storage. instant back to map
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>>154583595
C-can I touch your mussels?
>>
>can reach 500mdef with the right equips
>Could probably reach 500 def too if I bothered with upgrading my chest plate
How good is that?
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>>154583786
I am 208 and haven't upgraded my gear at all so that defense is okay I think but 500mdef is pretty rad.

What are you planning on wearing if you don't mind me asking?
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>>154583998
Oh forgot pic
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>impale a guy
>he doesn't get off
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>>154575304
subzero shield isn't really required anymore, or at least not at 10. it only helps against physical enemies which aren't generally a threat anyway.
in pvp even at level 3-4 you'll have enough uptime between it and your other ice spells to keep catas at bay.
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Will 160 MDef more make much of a difference at R8 mobs?
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>>154584169
Reported, enjoy your ban you filthy cheater
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>>154583998
I'll probably settle for a superior royal guard armor, Grynas and Virtov plate are untradable and behind dungeon rolls/gimmick

Why do you have so much spr as a monk?
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>>154584169
>>impale a guy
>>he doesn't get off
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>>154584169
Delicious 10 FPS

Almost double of mine
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>>154584364
Haha nope.
>>
>>154584524
Oh, Priest3. Some on top of priest spells, things like deprotection also scale with spirit. I still deal good damage but also am capable of supporting well.
>>
Disgruntled IMC employee here. These are the future classes being planned right now.

* Jester is a secret Rank 6 class that requires Sapper
* Antiquarian is a secret Rank 8 class that require Rogue
* Hussar and Keshik are the Rank 9 classes for Archer
* Miko is a secret Rank 5 class that requires Krivis
* Shepherd is a secret Rank 9 class that requires Druid
* Hem-nejter and Pontifex are the Rank 9 classes for Cleric
* Centurion and Samurai are the Rank 9 classes for Swordsman
* Wild Mage is a secret Rank 8 class that requires Sorcerer
* Solipsist and Somnimancer are the Rank 9 classes for Wizard

Rank 10 is going to be something completely unexpected, not a class, but ascension into a 'higher' version which unlocks even more potential.
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>>154584883
>that require
>that require
>that require
>that require
Fuck off.
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>>154584883

This is legit? lol
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>>154584883
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>>154584883
>Shepherd is a secret Rank 9 class that requires Druid
1000000000000% bullshit
>>
>>154584883
Just stop, Julie. You don't even work there anymore. Move on. We already know this game is going to die before Rank 9.
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>>154584883
what the fuck is a hem-neter and somnimancer
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>>154581504
julie was a whore, im glad she is dead.
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>>154585449
"Hem-Nejter" is a high priest in Egyptian culture.

"Somnimancer" is someone who would have magic based on sleep.

I smell bullshit.
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>>154585472

How she died?
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>>154584883
>>
>>154584169
Reminder that impale bugs exist since first gook tbls and even though were reported hundreds of times were never fixed.
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>>154585631
>Being a werewolf with a zombie AND mummy army AND Anubis generals that can stun and heal

I'm playing til Rank 10.
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>>154585652
sports cars withdrawal
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>>154585652
She was crushed by kims dropped from roof sportscar.
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>tfw I'm going to be the last person here from this time playing Rank 12 expanded classes

I'm going to miss you guys.
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>>154584169
Sounds like a personal problem
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>>154584883
>hussar
>archer
pick one you dumb slut
>>
>>154585652
She got aids from imc.
>>
>>154584883
>Wild Mage
so just shaman?
>>
Who's the doggeydoo of /tosg/?
>>
when are they going to add proper dual wielding in this game
>>
>>154586562
r10 / hook64
>>
>>154585449
>somni
Latin for sleep(insomnia)
>>
>>154584883
>miko is a rank 5 class
>that requires you to go to demon prison before level 126
Thumbs up
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>>154586562
>Dual wielding
Name one real life example that isn't a meme
>>
>>154587118
>Out of body
Name one nigga that went awooooo
turned into a ghost and killed someone
>>
We're all salty casuals if we think for a second Crimson isn't legit as they claim right?
>>
>>154587323
Cleric and wizard classes are based in myths or religions, and even then, their skills seem to fit their image(see featherfoot earlier in the thread). Only dragoon is the outlier of archer/swordsman classes
>>
>>154587118
>Name one real life example
Kirito
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>>154587512
No. Because most top guilds in mmos either outright cheat, or exploit to some degree, usually from being at the forefront of patches and findibg bugs before others.

At the end of the day this game isnt important enough to tryhard in though.

Even top xivg raids are admittedly 100% pointless other than for bragging rights and that game is way more popular. Why the fuck would anyone attempt to fight for #1 in this game?
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>>154554350
Super late but if you change the number 500 or 540 at the end of a tumblr url to 1280, it gives it the biggest size.
>>
How much damage Divine machine arrow do? worth maxing?
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>>154587118
Rapier + Main gauche
Katana + Wakizashi
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>>154588273

Rapier + Pistol!
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I did it Cattly!
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>>154588665
is that the last floor? if so congrats!
>>
I've found 3 world bosses within the past three days. Wasn't even looking for them.

Wrathful Harp, Starving Ella, and Mineloader.
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>>154588078
Yes
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>>154588665
>/tosg/ first 20F clear
And what did Ohayou achieve? Fuckall! HAAHAH
>>
>>154588665
Wow look at that! Its only a copypaste setup of those gook nolifers. Who would've thought something like this is possible!
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>>154589750
Since when was alpha /tosg/?
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>>154589750
>>154589992
they are not
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>>154588078
in pvp it'll usually oneshot squishy people, its just also a level 1 status so it gets blocked by CC
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>>154589750
we got rank 2 in gvg and alot of free tp
what did you do?
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>>154589992
>>154590083
>it doesn't count because it's not 100% /tosg/ members
>>154590410
>free enchant scrolls that give barely mattering stats

It sounds to me that you need to validate your achievements hard, pathetic Ohayou fags.
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>>154590660
im not in that guild but they are still not tosg
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>>154588665

It's a good thing you're a riding class so everyone didn't see you walking funny after being bent over and violated by /Ohayou/ in GvG
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>>154590660
>pathetic Ohayou fags.
>everyone is in <currently most hated guild>
negro pls
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>>154590660
Since when was house_nine /tosg/? If you take them and alpha out there is no trace of this general
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>>154590660
>it doesn't count because it's not 100% /tosg/ members
by that logic Crimson is also /tosg/ then
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>>154591108
>>154591030
>>154590939
>>154590847
>>154590660
>>154590083
>>154589992
>>154589867
>>154589750
>>154588739
>>154588665
Nobody likes you, Ohayou fags.
Fuck off, Ohayou fags.
Nobody cares. Go be a retard elsewhere, Ohayou fags. Fuck off.
Fuck off Ohayou fags.

That Ohayou fags guy salty as ■■■■ because he can't autowin PvP with hax gear instead is forced to actually use skill and strategy lmfao.
Stay ■■■■ kid.
>>
>this one dude used to be on top 5 tbl
>cavity search happens, everyone bails off hook
>his rank went down 40
i wish i had some proof, hookers got way too carefull with the leaks
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>>154590660
>It sounds to me that you need to validate your achievements hard, pathetic Ohayou fags.
>>
>>154590410
I dunno, GvG ranks are super questionable They don't even seem to update for a ton of guilds.
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>>154591439
super questionable or not we ended the week 8-3 and fought against crimson, lotus and alpha
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>>154591218
>Implying dick-sucking clique still count as /tosg/
>>
>>154589867

you must consider that the gooks did it before the retreat shot + melstis fix
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>>154591524
What can I say. You are the best.

*le shrug*
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>>154591652
Is there anything melstis even works on at this point?
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>>154591898
Confirmed!
>>
>ohayou was born as founders wanted to stay away from gvg and drama, simply just a comfy guild to have fun
>ohayou now can't stop shitposting about muh tp and bragging/validating achievements every thread
wtf happened
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>>154591937
Can you extend mackangdal? That could be useful but I'm not sure what melstis actually works with either.
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>>154591982
Cuckgarden's job is to shitpost as hard as he can, this was always like this. Attentionwhoring, shitposting FP and now Crimson, is what Ohayou was built upon.
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>>154591973
>>154591982
Ohio!
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Omanko!
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>>154591524
ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR
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>>154592227
boipussi
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Kiritoxbeetsama, literally best bros for lyfe.

What happened?
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>>154592227
>>154592346
Stahp that!

>>154592350
Kiri became tsun~
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>>154592227
Chinko
>>
>>154592320
>7 deaths on 228 character
wow its almost like you have higher level characters
>>
>>154591524
>we're #2
>but we lost to three different guilds
See what I mean?
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>>154592751
i dont please explain
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>>154592839
#2 implies that there is one guild better than you, but in practice you were bested by three guilds, so you should be at most #4.
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>>154592918
thats not how it works
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>>154592839
You suck coks.
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/r/ shoop of that
>"all these free TP"
>TP coin ingame icon
>EG`s animu avatar slut
>>
>>154592751
Except we only lost to crimson, went 1-1 with alpha and beat lotus
>>
>/tosg/'s most "hated" guild has by far the highest membership
really makes u think
>>
>>154592987
>>154593016
DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>154591937

ausrine, steady aim, mole cards
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>>154593095
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>>154593017
Right, shitgarden, it doesn't matter who you recruit and how you recruit.
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>>154591524
Alpha had 8 members, no clerics in that match. Pretty sure they were messing around
>>
>/tosg/'s most "hated" guild became best guild the moment the "Annihilator of Futureproof - aka Clover" joined them
really makes u think
>>
why we hate ohayou again?
>>
>>154593017
It's quite simple really.
>win GBL
>get more people who want in on the money
>repeat
Sure it's best but guild itself as a social group sucks dick. I'm in it only for my free TP, I don't like majority of you.
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>>154593613
easy to shitpost about
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>>154593525
Alpha played like pussys
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>>154584883
>Solipsist class

Now I wish this was real.
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>>154592918
>have twice as many wins as losses
>but you have losses so that means its bad
FP must be number 1 since they didnt even queue then
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>>154593702
But they were outnumbered, had no heals, just one necro and 7 archers, and they still got more kills than Ohayou
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>>154593770
>at most
It's the MAX rank you should be at, my ESL friend.
>>
>>154593826
They also had more higher levels
and they did have heals in both matches
>>
man, evercuck fuck off back to dota already
>>
>>154593952
They did have higher levels, that's true, but they didn't have heals. 1 Necro, 6/7 Archers, and there might have been one elementalist. I spectated both matches, and I'm not a member of Ohayou or Alpha, you're clearly biased. Just saying what I saw from a neutral perspective
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>>154594015
http://www.strawpoll.me/11210908/r

lol
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>>154594108
Good job. 500 TP have been deposited to your account.
>>
WoE when? This organized gvg is bullshit, give a chance for weaker guilds to gang up on the strongest one, like how other mmos do World v World
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why didn't Clover just join FP? They would've been the best /tosg/ guild
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>>154595014
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>>154594873
Never!
Fuck off RO niggers.
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>>154595014
Loli wasn't online and Ohayou has been shitting up the thread with anti-FP propaganda as much as possible.
>>
>>154595014
>tfw FP is the comfy fun guild now
>>
>>154595162
Stop replying to the falseflagging ohayoutard.
>>
>>154595175
>>154595014
>FP
Who?
>>
>>154595096

Having a weekly world battle or territory control event is the easiest way to keep people interested in this game.
>>
So wait. This weeks update is exp tomes no one will ever use because they're an hour long tiny ass bonus and they cost about $7 each?

What do you think goes through IMCs head when they make these kind of decisions?
>>
>>154592320

Crimson:

>full of autists who take this cute buggy exploiter fest of a game -with a dev team that is probably a couple of Indians outsourced off Fiverr by now- seriously (I'm so sorry)
>Spent thousands of hours farming extremely stale repetitive content to max out gear and attributes
>masochist moded through the questlines and grind again to make a full team of current meme overpowered PvP builds
>has people like Vheissu sperging out and embarassing themselves over shit literally nobody but them even care about every night in shout chat

Ohayou:

>not stupid enough to not realize that going full Crimson and farming 10+ hours a day will leave your with nothing but regrets to show for it as the game dies out
>Just a bunch of glorious weebs dicking around and casually having fun together while they still can and collecting all the TP cosmetics
>play whatever the fuck they like in GvG, wacky builds like full int pyrochronos, doppels, paladins, etc instead of wasting their time rerolling
>STILL manage to secure 2nd and 40x 100TP boxes every week - and unlike Crimson where the leader and his inner circle keep the lions share of TP, everyone gets a fair cut

How can you even compare them? This Crimsons vs Ohayou shit needs to stop.
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>>154595162
>people still think ohayou plans anything
>>
>>154595390

I have a fuckton of exp tomes from events though
>>
>>154595541

I've got 16 exp tomes and 6 instance reset scrolls. They're fucking useless so I never bothered using them.

But still, +300% exp for a whopping 2 hours is nothing. I might get an entire extra level from it if I'm lucky. That's $14 for 1 level.
It's cheaper to go and pay some Chink to power level for you.
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>>154595494
>X is shit and it's unfair they get things
>Y is heroes for standing up to oppression
This fucking bias, it's like I'm listening to Lolipan say this. Lay it off niggergarden.
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>>154592918
We beat the guilds that beat us. Only Crimson remains undefeated
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>>154595494
crimson is not /tosg/ btw
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>>154595531
>10:30pm
>everyone just chilling around doing TBL
>suddenly Beet says "We're merging with Clover"
seriously the most random thing we've ever done
>>
>>154593525
Is this true? Let's see some screenshots and videos of that match to back up Ohayou's claims. If they've been bragging this heavily about beating 8 people while hiding the numbers, that's really pathetic.
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I can't be bothered with these shitty level 240+ maps anymore. I've got no damage and everything is some fucking cancerous 100k+ health mob. It's taking me hours just to do the kill counts for these maps.
Last map I was on had this fucking retarded gay flying fire elemental mage mob. Flying and fire makes all my damage literally useless and the fucking thing was hitting for 1k damage. Took me a minute to kill one and I needed to kill 67 for the kill count.

I'm trying to do 2 maps a day (quests + exploration + kill count) but it's taking me 5-6 hours and getting tiresome as fuck. I still have 12 maps left to do.

I fucking hate this and no one wants me in grind parties because I don't do anything.

Thank fuck the Destiny expansion comes out in a week so I can do some grind that is actually enjoyable.
>>
>>154596506
>kill counts
dont do them nigga?
>>
>>154596506
Just make your own grind party. What the hell build are you even playing that's so unviable nobody wants you? Nobody expects anything from clerics except heals, wiz having any combination of tons of skills is mostly fine, Swordies people beg for solely to fill xp slots and archers have good enough damage to make soloing the later maps not super tedious.
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>>154596336
Yeah, it's true. Alpha attacked with their 8 members, and got a heavy amount of kills since they have higher levels and stronger gear. But then Ohayou just respawned and pushed back, and just kept rushing their tower over and over. With no heals and support, when they eventually got a kill, Alpha members stayed down for the full 30 seconds with no resurrection or heals. They kept trying to defend, but couldn't with no support, that's why Alpha had a higher kill count, they just couldn't defend tower. I just spectated, so I didn't take any videos or screenshots, but some of the Alpha lurkers in this thread will probably have something
>>
Mobile is the biggest gaming platform.
>>
I hope that whoever designed Tyla Monastery is run over by a fucking bus.
>>
>>154595703
Just use your free tp for them
>>
>>154596676

Losing out on too much exp if I don't do them. It's 3-4 million additional exp a map which works out to be 36 to 48 million exp more with the remaining 12 maps I've got to do. With the exp from killing shit it's closer to 100 million.
That's way too much to pass up for someone who can't party grind.

>>154596701

I'm a Wizard whose only damage comes from Pyromancer spells. Basically fireball and flame ground. That is it. I have no other damage dealing abilities.
I'm literally a wasted slot in a party.
>>
>bluehound in first tbl match
>He causes nearly 50k with nothing but autoattacks and immediately disconnects
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>>154595494
I really don't get why /tosg/ respects these autists so much
>>
>>154597112
Pyro without Linker?
You fucked up.
>>
How dead is ToS. Was thinking of giving it a shot but am worried about it reaching end of life too soon after I start.
>>
>>154597112
Stop playing shit and crying about it in the general
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>>154597201
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>>154597201
wow, i didnt know Ohayou are that autistic

even worse than FOE
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>>154597347

If you're a Wizard without Wizard 3 and Linker you've automatically fucked up.
>>
>>154597201
Cuckgarden, why would anyone respect Crimson less than a scum like you?
>>
You are all retarded and i can't wait to see you all at tonights meetup.
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>>154597697
yeah now, scumgarden should just go play dota with dvine or something instead of acting all nice and cute in game
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>>154597485
Go on, namedrop me. 0% chance you'll get it right.
>>
>>154588273
Those are not my epic dual wielding two handed swords examples though
>>
>>154595494
>everyone gets a fair cut
Is this the part where I'm supposed to laugh?
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>>154597201
>no erp section

Clearly not even for Ohayou.
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>>154598226
You get a fair cut if you """work""" hard like my boi evergarden >>154573456
>>
>>154530402
I-Is summoning zombies cool?
>>
>>154597201
for the record Vheissu is on the social council
>>
>>154598323
>>154597494
>fell for the Crimson recruit bait this hard
kys crimsonhayou
>>
>>154597485
Context says a lot, it's not his fault if your whole post puts Crimson in a bad light and makes Ohayou look like anime protagonists.

Before you strawman no, I don't mean Ohayou is full of unlikeable faggots, I barely know anyone there.
>>
>>154595494
It's just Moesaki Alysse Faery Kinte shitposting
>>
So you use Mackangdal to negate damage then safety zone after so they don't get one shot right?
>>
>>154598332
no

is bad
>>
>>154598862
But they tank stuff and you can have tons!
>>
>>154598798
Right. Sterea troph also works. Just be careful of Reversi/Counterspell in PvP as well as some boss/swordsman moves that can push you out of safety zone through invincibility.
>>
>>154598959
no

they dead fast and weak
>>
>>154599231
But you look cool!
>>
>>154599231
But muh bokorwolf (btw videos of that when?)
>>
>ohayou got their assbeating more than 12 hours ago
>they're still crying
Give it a rest.
>>
>>154599274
but bad
>>
>>154599420
Wh-What about a Pardoner-Bokor? They'd be super cool right?
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>>154599503
anon bokor is shit for zombies
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>>154599325
nooooooo
waaaahhahaaa
>>
Does Krivis3 not work anymore with Retreatshot?
>>
>>154599503

bokor into pardoner -> pd is a common very good build, nice for pvp and people been saying that pd 2 is very strong for pve. discerning evil makes everything better
>>
>>154599503
Pardoner-Bokor is good!

not for zombies though.
>>
>>154598730
Crimson brought it upon themselves with their holier than thou "xD we don't exploit" while literally exploiting and shitting up shout chat every night
>>
>>154599614
Nope.
>>
Would you guys hate me if I joined Crimson?
>>
>oh boy, a diev
>ausrine will surely lead us to victory in this match
>he has no wood to carve statues
DYING INSIDE
>>
>>154599567
>>154599636
>>154599628

What's the point of going
Pardoner-Bokor then? ;_;
>>
>>154599313
>>154599503
bokor ok
zombies bad
>>
>>154599693
Not as long as you send me your lewds.
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>>154599713
Incineration
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>>154599693
not if you become an expert cocksucker like alysse and give me head too
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>>154599798
>>154599852
Christian boys don't do that kind of stuff though.
>>
>>154599713
pardoner has nice utility
>>
>>154600036
A-Alright I'm glad I didn't ruin my build yet! It's a good thing I didn't max my summon zombie skill first. Hyufufu. I don't really know how the build works though, I'm a bit new.
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>>154598734
lol everscum
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>>154600141
>Even considering the zombie skills
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>>154599693

Uhmmm I dislike the tosg Crimson clique for shitting up the thread but I personally don't care what guild my friends are in so if you're not part of their circle jerk idc

why would you do that though
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>>154600279
It's not even them shitting up the thread, it's false flaggers who can't stop getting off on them.
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>>154600257
I'm new alright? I just started a few days ago! It looked really cool.

I'm Cleric>Priest>Bokor so far! Would going Priest and Pardoner afterwards help? The Pardoner outfit is really cute!
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>>154600416

based on my experience with mmo general's I don't buy it
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>>154600036
>nice
You mean best?
>>
>>154600605
That's exactly how I can tell you've never spoken to them.
>>
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ayy

Who's Drange?
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>>154600279
>Crimson clique
It's the Ohayou shitpost brigade trying to stir up anti-Crimson mentality. They're not even subtle about it.
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>>154569095
>my body is made of swords
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>>154600514
>Cleric>Priest>Bokor3>Oracle>Kabba
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>>154599693
No? Why? Only Ohayou is salty about them, everyone else is just memeing. Nothing wrong with being in #1 guild, that's only proof that you're a great player.
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>>154569095
>bluehound 172d
>nice editing skills brah i give you an A for Affort
what did he meme by this
>>
>>154600869
I don't understand ;_;
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>>154600514
cleric->priest->bokor->cleric2->pardoner->X->pd
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>>154600768
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>>154601049
Wouldn't getting a better Blessing along with Revive and Mass Heal be better? I don't really understand the reason for going back to Cleric.

Please teach me!
>>
>>154601198
What do you want to do in this game? PvP or PvE or costume collect and socialize?
>>
>>154601132
Thanks anon, I don't keep up with streaming autism.
>>
>>154600768

this is why i gave up on the tbl lol
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>>154601281
PvE and socialize I guess, but PvP sounds a bit fun too!
>>
For Korean mmo standards, how grindy is this game? Looks kinda fun
>>
>>154598734
Nice namedrop there, I'm shaking in my boots!
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>>154601385
it's not very grindy, it is very buggy, unbalanced and unfun. leave while you can.
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>>154601385
3x rates Ragnarok Online.
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>>154601356
Cleric2 is great for pve

>10 heals
>Divine might
>Safety Zone att
>Cure if you want to dps
>>
>>154601441
>I'm shaking in my boots!

are they cute boots? :3
>>
>>154600416
It's definitely them.
>>
>>154601385
barely exp grind

but a lot of gear/money grind
and shit tons of quests for leveling (1.6k+, soon ~2k)
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>>154601517
That does make sense I suppose! Thank you. Are any of you guys in Orsha? Two of my friends and I started recently and a guild might be kind of cool!
>>
>>154601757
>I'm going to point fingers are people without a shred of proof! Surely if I whine enough people will believe me!
>>
>>154600881
/tosg/ dislikes Crimson not because they're number 1 no lifers, but because they cheat to get there and blame others on it instead.
>>
>>154601910
>/tosg/ dislikes Crimson
I wonder which ohayou falseflagger is behind this post
>>
>>154601757
If theyre shitting up the thread i'm certain it's also the Ohayous that have been shitting up the thread as well. Since falseflagging apparently doesnt exist.
>>
Why did they kill elememe

Why did they make leveling shit
>>
>>154601757
Try finding legitimate proof of them constantly posting about themselves in thread. I dare you. :^ ) They're a chill group of people just trying to have fun in this shitty ass game. Here's your (You).
>>
>>154601441
just rename yourselves to Crimson cocksucking clique
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Excuse me but how much CON do you archers have?
I have 50 CON before gear bonuses and getting sneezed on turns me into a red mist.
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>>154602359
get better armor
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>>154598734
Did Kinte join Crimson yet
>>
>>154600724

but I have spoken to some of them, nice guys but it's obvious they lurk the thread really hard and are especially fixated on the happenings and drama, only reinforced my belief honestly
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>>154601781
Most of us are on Klaipeda, but Orsha does have a /tosg/ guild. And since today is a maintenance day, there is a meet up before the servers go down. It starts 1 hour before maintenance and Orshites meet at Woods of the Linked Bridges.

The guild and guild leader is in the OP and the meet up happens in 3 and a half hours.
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>patch notes don't even have any fixes in them anymore

Haha
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>>154602359
Invest on armour, it makes a whole lot of difference. How much pdef and mdef do you have?
>>
>>154602359
0.
I leveled a mage with 0 con already, leveling an archer with 1:1 dex is piss easy thanks to the evasion you get.
>>
>>154602698
>anymore

when did they ever anon? r-rank 8 soon
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Who knew comfy could look so swag
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>>154602816
I want to see you evading that 280+ magic.
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>tosg
>not paying attention to the thread
You're a special kind of genius my dear friend.
>>
>>154602874
>Luciduce
>>
>>154602919
>implying 50 con is going to matter at 280+
At those levels if you get hit you die, just don't get hit.
>>
>>154600416
They shit up the thread just by being affiliated with a cheating shittalking guild.
>>
>decide to log back on after a long break to see how the game is doing
>mercenary post channel 1 has like 10 people in it
>1 hour long queue
Holy shit, I didn't think it would die this fast.
>>
>>154602976
>>154602494
>>
>>154603046
It's maint night
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>>154602359
I do fine enough
>>
>>154603026
>just don't get hit
>just don't get hit by homing projectiles that are a guaranteed death sentence as soon as they are cast
JUST DON'T FUCKING GET HIT
DON'T EVEN ENGAGE THE ENEMY
>>
>>154603228
Play the game lol
>>
>>154603228
You do know most skills have more range then the mobs right?
>>
>>154603228
Don't even log in.
There, you're now free.
>>
When does Fulldraw defense attribute kick in? Is it on snared enemies, or linked enemies?
>>
>>154600279
All the threadshitting I saw was against them until one started replying to it. It started off seemingly unprovoked, and expanded to include anything involving crimson. Whoever's doing it is clearly jealous, and there's probably some personal grudge from in-game involved. The anti-crimson shit is constantly filling the thread with shitflinging and makes it impossible to discuss the game.
>>
Has any of you doppelmemers ever bothered with Hell and Heaven? Worse stats overall but the min atk is 75 points higher than magi, so it could be good with Deeds. I kind of want to test the damage myself as I've dropped a recipe and the materials are cheap, it also looks cool so in worst case scenario I could use it as a skin to another weapon
>>
>some fag from Ohayou joins /tosg/ discord, shitposts, and leaves immediately
Pathetic, trying this hard for attention.
>>
>>154603272
do you?
>>154603294
and? they still fuck you over

im not that guy btw
>>
>>154603934
>and? they still fuck you over
You cc/kill them before they can hurt you from outside their range.
>>
>>154603654
>The anti-crimson shit is constantly filling the thread
Just cuckgarden trying to shift attention from his FP shitting and false flagging.
It works. Now it's all about Crimson.
>>
>>154603294
>I one shot every 100k+hp mob I encounter, and will do the same to the 200k+hp ones
>>
>>154604001
>You cc/kill them
>500k mobs
>>
>>154604054
Can we make it all about me instead?
>>
>>154604056
>cc doesn't exit
>>
2vs2 used to be fun, not every match has hunters


give me back the psychokinos
>>
>>154604054
Is there any evidence it's him, since everyone is accusing everyone of being everyone else?
>>
>>154602359
I put 1/5th of my points in CON and I've never regretted it.

Watching other bowfags get killed makes my e-penis slightly bigger everytime.
>>
>>154601385

Very grindy.

Level grind isn't so bad. Maybe 50ish mandatory hours of grind.

Grinding for items however is insane. Some you get from dungeons with like a 1% chance and you get to do 2-3 runs a day. Others require 20k kills to drop items. Some you need to level up which involved adding like 200 fucking items to it which you can get a few a day.
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>Cryo is favorite outfit
>Everyone wants a linker
>Chrono has my favorite abilities

Would a build combining all 3 work?
How should I set it and where should the points go?
>>
>>154604426
cryo1linker2chrono3 full con
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>>154604387
>>
>>154604249
Of course it does, but afaik you can't cc a whole group of mobs by yourself indefinitely any time you want. You're avoiding some damage, but not all of it, especially when mobs are become more of hp sponges than they are now.
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>>154604387
>>
>>154604426
cryo linker2 chrono3 is literally cookie cutter support build
>>
>>154603704
LEAVE FRIENDLY ANIME GIRL ALONE
>>
>>154603698
Pretry fucking bad, it's sort of like having 5 stacks of Deeds on except you get fuckall (like 100 damage) for it. If you want big dicken damage that's easily gotten, I'd stick with a Superior Twin Blade which is cheap to craft and doesn't fucking murder you.
Still, Hell and Heaven is a cool fucking name.

Also, I wonder if def goes into negatives if you get 10 stacks of deeds and then equip it.
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>>154540758
>>154533962
Thanks anons, this is a really late response, but what should I be distributing stats into for this one?

SPR and CON?
Any INT for the build?
>>
>>154604629
>by yourself
Why would I be by myself?

Even with a lot of con you won't be soloing 280+ mobs unless you want to sit by a bonfire every enemy you kill.
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>>154604661
M-Mia...
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>>154601385
Imagine an even bigger grind than RO, except none of it is fun and half of it is locked behind arbitrary daily limits.
>>
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>selling item on shout chat
>get whisper from someone saying i should gift it to them
>lol no i'm trying to make money
>pulls the whole but i'm a girl you should give it to me~
>i tell her i'm also a girl and 'she' gets all pissy with me
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>mfw ohayou is bleeding members
who do we hate next?
>>
>>154605239
pfffthahahahaha
>>
>>154605185

TOS is much faster than RO rate <15x
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It DOES exist. 34 runs of the 160 dungeon later I got one. I don't think I have the patience to go for a second.

The necklace from 145 is WAY easier to get.
>>
>>154605489
>29mdef + 61dark def
>or 90mdef + other stats
Gee bill, what should I do...
>>
>>154605571
I really dislike the "play the game" meme but I'm pretty sure it was designed for posts like yours. Do a little more research and try again.
>>
>>154605571
Retard.
>>
>>154605571
https://tos.neet.tv/items/603109

play the game retard
>>
>>154605691
>>154605721
What, are you implying both aren't flat damage reduction? I'd gladly see some proof then.
>>
can crimson just fuck off
>>
>Have 11+ levels on everyone else in mission run
>They opt to fight both bosses at once
>Chronomancer teammate successfully brings back the mole
>Fighting all 3 bosses at once with those levels
>>
>>154605489

>34 runs

what the
I was doing like, 1 run per day thinking that I would eventually get one.

does jolly roger works for those kind of shit?
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>300% EXP Tomes

Would it make running missions actually worth it?
>>
>>154605784
>I'd gladly see some proof then.
Do some research, they effect is literally everywhere and was posted even here multiple times.
>>
>>154605838
It only took 11 runs of 145 for the necklace, but 160 takes a lot more. There's way less mobs here, which may be the primary problem, or maybe I just got REALLY unlucky, I don't know.

Jolly Roger should work in theory, yes. I'm not sure it'll be faster than just melting the dungeon, though.
>>
Make the new thread.
>>
>>154605489
>he hasn't quit
Please give us your steam and bnet before you do. You're a really cool guy and I'd like to play with you in other games.
>>
>>154605929

145 is doable to farm because the money is excellent, but the 160 hurts
>>
>>154605289
NOBODY LEFT
>>
>>154605880

I'd save them for the 290 dungeon desu senpai.
>>
>>154606347

migrate
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>>154605808
and?
done that. no big prob
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