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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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Meet ups tonight 9PM PST/12AM EST:
Klaipeda - Entrance of Kateen Forest
Orsha - Woods of the Linked Bridges

Previously on /tosg/ >>154530402

Latest Patch Notes: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=640
Rank 8 Update Preview: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610
Updates You Might Have Missed: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=624

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Late September™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Frequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/z0nHSEjH

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Orsha (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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Chronomancers are made for handholding!
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/Bullies/ when?
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Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q-OzsOmi00
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>Check new event
>It's some shitty kill and use ticket etc
>Fuck
>Think about coming back with new EXP tome to level, burn all the billion of EXP tomes I have
>Start an alt, realize all quests, hair colors, etc have to be gotten again, and that I can't refund TP shit, go back to main
>SPR Chaplain
>Go close to anything and melt if not using plate, else damage is gimped
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>>154606479

I will bully you!
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>>154606347
Correction PDT and EDT.
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>>154606676
That last one is false.

t. spr chaplain
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>>154606853
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>>154606676

>Thinking the exp tomes will do shit to lessen the grind

Best way to use them is in a party grinding. Due to modifiers they actually give closer to 190% exp than the actual +300% they claim.
At best they'll take the 30-40 hours you have to grind down to something like 15-20. Provided you're willing to pay about $7 for every hour you grind.

Use them if you got them for free, but those 8x exp tomes are so shit it's cheaper to pay some chink to power level for you than it is to buy them.
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>>154604851
I've had this magi two handed since forever now. I managed to craft a viene twin blade, but I sold it as I had already used two gems on the magi and it's +5, not gonna bother with wasting a whole lot to upgrade when we'll get those sick new zweihänder on r8

Magi also looks way less stupid than Vienie imo and that's a big plus

>>154605784
The broken ones are dirt cheap, buy one and see for yourself. Just remember that the higher quality ones have a bigger damage reduction percentage.
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>>154604916
Still need thoughts
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>>154606737
Go ahead and try.
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Ranger c3 costume worth getting?
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>>154606963
Im a mobile fortress. Maybe you fucked the ever living shit out of your skills or something. I have no trouble with any mob and everything dies evetually
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>>154606989

I'll start by pulling your ear!
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>>154606963
Not an argument.
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Did Futureproof get TP?
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>>154607021
I hate the design of it, what the fuck is the point of VERTICAL BELTS?
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>>154607575
not your business, cuckgarden.
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>>154607021
I can become Neo now?!?!
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>>154607668
>what the fuck is the point of VERTICAL BELTS?
+% edgyness
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>>154607021
That costume looks nothing like ranger.
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>>154607668
Come on the costume looks cool, and so does that Barrage. If only the class was as good as that costume, I'd consider having one.
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Daym, if the first hit of Barbed Arrow crits, the extra hits will crit too.
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>>154607701
fuck off crimshit
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>>154606983
That's true, if you already have an usable weapon there's no point in switching now.
I like how Twin Blade looks; not like the coming R8 swords look any less retarded and over the top, mind you.

Are you ready for 530 property damage/900 base attack/99999 free CON swords?
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>>154606676
How do you die as a Chap for real mine has Grynas and takes 1 damage from almost everything and with stone skin+revive is super unlikely to die.

Only thing that sucks about solo as Chap is that it gets super boring because you don't get hit but you tickle the enemies too.
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>>154608703
I really want to try out the 900 min atk sword, the real problem is that it doesn't have any AoEAR, I don't really want to part with my demonas either, nor have the money for expensive glad bands.
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>>154607701
I'm in FP I didn't get any so if yes then I'm sad
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Meet up is in 2 hours!
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>>154609194
I am pretty sure that it bugged out for us again, we won twice last week and it didn't count either of our wins.
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>>154609194
Our games weren't counted I think so we ended at 0W 1L.
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>>154609262
meetups are dead
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>>154607701
>falseflags are replied to by falseflags
this is how generals die, cut this shit out
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Stay out of Kateen cuck■■■■■■
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>>154609692
Ok
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>>154608365
It's a fake multi hit. If you have the monster compendium add-on, try attacking some static structure and see how many hits it does.

>>154608703
Btw, it looks like a giant gardening tool, I dislike the design entirely
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>>154609692
>Crimson of all people telling people to go
Tired of being cancer to the server? Just fuck off already
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>>154609792
>It's a fake multi hit.
Strange. Blessing only applies once then?
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>go to meetup
>stand or sit there awkwardly for half an hour
>repeat every Monday night for two months
It's like real life
I don't wanna go
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>>154610137
Being a fake multi hit means it has a modifier at the end of the formula. I think that in Barbed Arrow it depends on armor, but Seism for instance gets +70%, while some cata skills are a bit over +100%

>Blessing
I think so
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>>154609532
Nuh uh
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>>154610237
I gave up on meetups after they killed the group ERP thing.

There is literally no reason to go now besides being a cancer.
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>>154610498
What time are these anyway? I haven't been to one since icbt2.
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>>154610807
R E A D O P
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>>154610498
>that fat cock sitting in the front of all those ladies looking fly as fuck
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>>154610807
>Swaaz
Son of a BITCH
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Just found out a cool feature that lets you grind at incredibly hihg speed.

Picture related, me solo grinding as a shitty no damage build. Only problem is my gears getting wrecked every 20 minutes, if that.
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>>154611036
>Just found out a cool feature that lets you grind at incredibly hihg speed.
>its called getting a blue mob within a half hour of resetting the exp/hour timer
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>>154611094

But I haven't seen a blue mob in fucking months.
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>>154611147
Well, I'm certainly interested in hearing what it is if that's the case, but you'll have to forgive me for doubting people who are posting things too good to believe on le ebin trollemaster general.
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GOOD BUILDS FOR EVERYONE SOON(tm)!
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>>154610878
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>>154611147
>encountered one blue mob since I started playing in April
>it was such a piece of shit that it gave me less than 10%
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>>154611307
pls be real i don't want this deadend cleric1 job anymore
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>>154611036
>"look, I've found a way to lessen grinding"
>doesn't say how

Where's the rest of the article, Mr journalist? You don't want to unsubscribe to your blog, right?
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>>154611212

If I tell people then soon everyone will know and then shortly after IMC will fix the feature because that is the only thing IMC are even good at doing.

All I can say is it's related to a certain quest.
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>>154611471
>it's related to an ebin quest in which a blue high hp mob spawned
NICE
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orsha meetup at 12

come for comfy
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>>154611471
>tos
>fix
>imc
>fix
That excuse for bait works in other generals but not this one.
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If I go to the meetup will I be able to find a cute guild
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>>154611528

Nah, it's related to a quest with a timer you can cause to bug out so the timer resets to 10 minutes after counting down. So waves and waves of mobs just spawn and they give pretty good exp and aren't really hard to kill.
But since I have no damage eventually I get overwhelmed by the constant barrage of 1 damage and it fucking shreds my armor.

But I'm not exploiting anything ok! It's a feature!
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>>154611147
>encountered two blue truffles today in alameth while grinding
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>>154611471
>certain quest
>certain
Infinite instant respawns are old news, anon.
I remember making millions early in the game's release by AFK farming tripede thorns in a quest with instant respawn. And I'm pretty sure it still works.
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>>154611471
You might be dumb, that's just an estimate. I could actually reach several million exp on Storage on that add-on's estimate if I reseted right before killing a shitload of respawned mobs, the real question is if you can hold that for a long time, and how easy it us to do this quest over and over again. Have you tried checking the effective exp gain within an hour?
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>>154611749

I keep seeing the shitty white mobs and occasionally the gold ones. Haven't seen a blue since I was like level 60.
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>>154611749
>alameth
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>>154611804

I don't know how long I was doing it for before I had to stop, but my Apsersion buff was on around 25ish minutes. So that is what... 40 minutes or so?
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Everyone quick, name three mistakes that aren't Tree of Savior
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>>154612341
IMC
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>>154612341
Me
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>>154612341
k i m
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>>154612341
/tosg/
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>>154612341
(You)
Ohayou
Cute not lewd

Notthing personnel, but I can't stand the name of the latter two
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>>154612341
donald trump
SWTOR
tosg
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>>154612341
Azebu making FOE boss timers only editable by himself
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>>154612341
Lolipan
dvine
Bee Spawn Nerf
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>>154612341
Me
Myself
____I
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>>154610807
>Canelle

AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>154612531
Hello Rance
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>>154611307

>Class reset more or less confirmed
>It's almost certainly going to be a cash shop item

Guesses on price? I'd say 498 TP.
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>>154612712
rance loves lolipan
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You winnin' your TBL matches son?
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>>154612890
Moooooom
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>>154612890
Stop recycling bad dota memes
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>>154612764
I really hope they just mean letting players undo accidental advancements.

Players haphazardly respeccing will ruin so much and make players feel less special for working through some of the shittier jobs (hello full con cryo chrono).
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>Check skill simulator to see what different skills do
>Want to see what a skill's effect is
>The only thing the example shows is the attack killing a single target
>No fucking idea if the skill hits multiple enemies, or what the effect is

Gee that's really helpful
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>>154611721
of course!
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>>154613010
You'll win your next match, I believe in you.
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>>154613074

It's kind of hard to accidentally advance to a class anon.

You got to select the class which you can reselect at anytime. Then go to a NPC and accept a quest you can cancel at anytime. Then you need to do the quest and hand it in.

It's hard to do all that by accident.

And chances are if they do add it, it'll be expensive as fuck and/or probably limited in some way to prevent casual respects every day.
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>>154613138
>redditbase is shit
yes, but no news, buddy
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>>154613138
Try youtube.
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>>154613238
once you pick a class at the advancement screen and are given the quest youre locked in
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>>154613138
I have no idea what you are talking about Pardoner's Indulgentia skill video is particularly informative.
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>>154612764
>>154613074
I'd be fine with a full reset every time they make a new rank.
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>>154613138

Ignore those IMC videos of skills. Not even kidding, IMC use godly characters to make those videos and try to make classes look good with massive damage numbers.

One of the new Sage videos confirms it. They attack with a normal attack and it does like 100k damage.
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>>154613138
Tell skill and class.
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>>154613010
adelaide?
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The meet ups are in 1 hour! Make sure you've picked out your desired cute outfit and get ready to pick up your date!
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>>154613256
It's strange that only the untranslated Korean skills properly show what the shit does instead of some guy killing an onion with different skills

>>154613372
The damage isn't even the problem, with every skill I try to look at is someone killing a level 1 enemy with each skill
It doesn't tell me about the skill's effects other than it can do damage

>>154613390
>Doppelsoldner
>mordschlag
>Dragoon
>Every skill other than dethrone
I could list a bunch of things I don't understand but this was the current issue
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>>154613789
>It's strange that only the untranslated Korean skills properly show what the shit does
negro pls. many dont.
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>>154613650
Adelaide

>>154613232
Thanks Universe, I actually did win that match
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>>154611036
>People falling for this.
She used a card and posted a screen of the exp viewer.
How stupid are you people?
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>>154613789
>Mordschlag
Never bothered with the skill, but it's single hit

>Dragoon shit
Can't help you there, but most are 6-7 hits afaik. There's probably someone here who can help you though

And yeah, tooltips are machine translated shit by brs and so those skill demonstration videos aren't that helpful most of the time. Ask here or on your guild for help with these things, it's hard to experiment with these things without listening to some beforehand advice and that's why the play the game meme is a bad Memel
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>>154614371
no one is falling for it
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>>154614371
>She
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>>154614449
Fuck off hater.
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>>154614683
???
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How do I level on 80-85?
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>>154614780
same as 1-79 and 86-275
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>>154613232
>posting washed up sand nigs
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>>154614895
I got leeched 1-79 in chapel though
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>>154614895
OHAYOU DOES IT AGAIN
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>>141276585
Look what you did.
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>>154615178
>i dont even know how to play the game
say thanks to your great powerleveler
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Is it worth going str for cannoneer abilities or should i stick to the dex meme?
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>>154615729
anything thats going musket c2 or cannon c2 should fall for the dex meme
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>>154607021
Nothing will make Ranger c3 worth it.
An edgelord costume certainly doesn't help.
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>>154615729
Cannon is shit with Str. Stick with dex, especially if your previous circles are more Dex inclined. Str really doesn't add a huge amount to cannons already stupid high blast damage which is the only skill worth using.
Although with r8 coming I believe cannon will be able to be a more main source of damage rather than a supplementary one to your other circles. With this even builds that focus more on Str should restat into Dex heavy builds to make use of cannons high burst.
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>IMC's Cannoneer c2 videos
>skills doing 50k damage minimum, multihit
>Holy shit this is amazing what-
>glowing lolopanther weapons
Hey what the fuck kind of demonstration is this?
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How is SR damage calculated?

All the pistol skills based on offhand?
They why do so many whales +15 their mainhand crossgun?
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>>154616101
IMC is xDing us
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>>154616295
more frightening is the fact they balanced quest mob hp around that kind of damage
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>>154616456
>what do you mean you cant do 500k damage? get a better build
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>>154616456
>It never occurred to them that people wouldn't have +40 lolopanther gear they themselves used to make the 30 seconds they spent actually touching the game easy as fuck

Somehow, I can believe this.
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>>154616820
>>154616864

>IMC doesnt Play the Game
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>>154616820
>>154616864
How many people are going to quit if they don't tone down the numbers?
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>>154617090
hopefully everyone, then maybe imc will take a step back and realize what they've done unless that was thier plan all along
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>>154617090
ive already started playing legion, half playing this just to see if they fix anything but this is the last straw for me
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>>154616456
Late maps are balanced around party play. Balancing every map under the assumption players are running around by themselves when the game allows for 5 man parties would be lame as hell.
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>>154616456
I don't think IMC plays this game.
>balance Backstab entirely around Karacha set so it does "okay" damage ONLY IF you have the set
>release R7 right after
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Did they fix the fps issues yet? Can I finally waste away my neet life in this game?
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>>154617676
Nope!
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Someone liked me when I wasn't looking!

I've been violated!
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>>154617676
>Did they fix
hahahaha

no, they un-fixed that even
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>>154617718
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>>154616101
Just showing you your true potential hehehehe
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>>154617745
must've been Kora
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When is IMC gonna implement game guard or something? Do they even have any anti cheat protection?
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>>154617676
>Literally the biggest complaint since the first beta
>No way could they possibly officially launch the game without fixing that first

LOL NOPE, OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T FIX IT.
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>>154618193
But they didn't. Get more than 3 people in a map using skills and turns into a slideshow.
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>>154617676
>>154618193
but they did fix it?
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>>154614382
>it's hard to experiment with these things without listening to some beforehand advice and that's why the play the game meme is a bad Memel

>Go get the skills and use them yourself is a bad meme
>People should only raise one character to max rank ever
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>>154618526
>>154618193
>>154618457
>>154617676
They kinda did.

And then, when they merged ktos and itos, they unfixed it again (for itos only ofc)
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>>154618752
They have to retranslate the Korean code again. That took a lot of time the first time, you can't possibly expect it to be instantaneous
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>>154618889
why dont they just use google translate?
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>>154618889
dont think they even know its fucked again >>154618526 "its fixed"
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comfy as fuck
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>Someone changed his facebook profile picture and display name to Tree of Savior and people are buying it
This is old. This is an old meme and you should feel bad for falling for it.
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>>154619392
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>>154619392
>using facebook
Get out
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>>154619620
>>154619392
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Hi /tosg/.

I'm back after a long time, and I'm bit lost on what to do.

My character was a Hoplite-Corsair that was following this build:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134488.354555.11243545.1a283a5171.1a21547a85

At the time, this build used to be common to Shinobi, while going full DEX.
I stopped on R6(because I didn't manage to get the item to turn into a shinobi) while being full dex.

My question is:
There is still a way to save this character? Take note that I have the stat reset potion from the event, and a skill reset potion also form an event and I'm willing to use them if I need.

What should be my stats?
Is this skill build okay?
What about R7/R8? What should I take?

As a final note, I have no interest in PVP, so, if possible, recommend something for PVE.
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>>154620057
>stopped at R6

You saved yourself, go dragoon into goon2 and you're golden. It'll even be decent for pvp because of hook and in R8 dethrone
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>>154619334
>asks for a cute guild
>doesnt join cute
n-next time
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>>154620423

One day we'll be relevant!
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POST A SCREENSHOT PLS
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>>154621495
You don't deserve one :^)
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>can't progress quest cause bots farming the monster i need

Okay.
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dragoon build or fencer build?
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nini comfy kotatsubros

love all you folks
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>>154622035
>can't progress quest because the servers are down
t-thanks
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>didn't get databased

Maybe next time.
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Another Monday, another maintenance, another meet-up. I'll see you guys tomorrow.
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>>154621495
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>>154621745
Remove the second row of people and the picture is almost good.
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>>154621495
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>>154622149
What hat is that on the cutie with the big head?
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>>154622140
nice blog
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>>154622221
>tfw
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Kotatsu is comfy meetups
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>>154622315
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>>154622334
I'll sit next to MonMusu next time!
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>less and less people in meetups

bahahaa
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>>154621495
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>crimson
>in the meetup

lol dead meetups
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>EU and SEA presence is only confirmed by their templars blogposting
I really wonder if they are really /tosg/ sometimes
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>>154622465
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>>154622747
AEA3R-FN0KL-6VXHC

nigg cukk
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>>154622465
what?
it was ~40. last was 35ish
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>>154622293

Boater hat.

Drops once every 100k kills or something from this one enemy on the first map in the game.
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Due to the popularity of PvP content IMC is proud to announce a tie-in spinoff for Tree Of Savior focused entirely on detailed spritework and kicking butt: sTreet of Fighter!
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>>154622925
that's pretty good
saved
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Karga should have passed leader to a fresh Templar and done a little reshuffling from there
It didn't have to be like this
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>she didn't kiss her crush at the meetup
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>Want to be Enchanter
>Look cool
>Read up on it
>Abilities kind of meh
>Look on Korean forums
>They're asking where did all the Enchanters go
>Scrolls to expensive to produce and spell selection is trash
>Armor enchants don't work in PVP
>Enchant Lightning is trash and doesn't even add another damage line
>Agility is apparently either bugged or that trash and tests show with 100 stamina it's a total of +3% chance to dodge attacks
>The only attribute they have is literally a joke and the Koreans use it as a way of showing off how rich they are, they literally say "it's like throwing money into the air"
>Koreans are asking if the class is just entirely bugged with no working abilities or whether it's just that shit

Man IMC. Why the fuck can't you balance at all?
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>>154623646
>you saw to boys kissing in the meetup
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>>154623646
>tfw your kissu crashed the database
Check the timestamp
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Thoughts? It's one of the event rewards

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/580002/
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>>154623674
>>Enchant Lightning is trash and doesn't even add another damage line
>damage line
>autoattacks
>at L300+ mobs with 500k HP
negro please
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>>154623876
epik
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>>154623876
https://tos.neet.tv/items/580002

pretty good

missinfo retards said "its a rental p2w cashshop item in KTOs" months ago. and ofc it was not.
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>>154623876
it's a timed necklace which has the same stats as lolopanther necklace but +20 CON
what is there to say about it
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>>154623876
>http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/580002/
>14 days
yeah, i wont waste my time on that
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>>154623840
Ah, see, "kissing" is just nose nuzzling. There's nothing lewd going on.
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>>154623876
>14 days

It would be decent when leveling alts, but with a 14 day timer, there is no point.
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>>154623876
A better max peta, if only the time ticks from the moment you put it on and not from the moment you get it. That way we'd be able to use it during the first 2 weeks of R8.
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>>154623939
Wizard jump attacking is the most undeadable strat
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>>154623939

It's extra damage. With Enchant fire, Enchant Lightning and Sacrament you could have gotten 3 bonus damage lines. That would be 2000 damage per auto attack. As a Wizard I drop all my AOEs then jump around auto attacking shit while jumping around. 2000 extra damage per attack could have been really useful.

Also more

>Enchant Armor is actually bugged and most of it's effects just don't work
>Enchant Lightning is also bugged and doesn't even give the bonus damage it states it does
>Koreans are demanding IMC say something about the sorry state of the class
>Most are calling it the worst class in the game
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>>154624160
>jump attacking
>in R8

>Wiz
>in R8
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>>154624282
>replying to bait
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>>154624238
>2000 extra damage per attack could have been really useful.
>vs R8 mobs
no. that's literally nothing
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>>154624282
PVP
Cataphracts are the only thing able to defeat jump attacking wizards! Even they have to fear your dark theurge!
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>>154624384

It's better than nothing anon. It could have been an extra 2000 damage on my autos + 500 damage everytime my AOEs hit.

But it's not. It adds no damage line and is bugged so of the +500 damage it should add you get less than half of that in most cases.

The Koreans have done all kinds of tests and they've just been left wondering what the fuck. They're certain shit is either bugged as fuck, or the class is just that bad and they're demanding IMC address the issue or offer an explanation.
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>>154624530
wew lad

400% + 5997
vs
600% + 4296 (6 hits)
Not to mention all elemental damage, concentrate, blessings and shit will apply to each hit individually.

But sure, I guess it doesn't even compare. Snipe's range must make up for the fact it's not a huge AoE attack.

>the hoplite-doppel synergy is what makes it great
wew lad x2

Serpentine:
700% + 6482 (7 hits)
Dragon Soar:
500% + 4170 (5 hits)
Both AoE, of course.

The only thing Musketeer has that clearly outmatches Dragoon is Covering Fire which is godly (and aesthetically magnificent). Headshot is a slightly better single target version of Gae Bulg.

Let's not even get started on Doppelgoon which is what I played on kTOS.
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>>154624282
I have +15 Circle Rod at lvl3 transcend with full lolopanther set. Everything is least +10 and with at least lvl8 gem. Not to mention all my skills are at 100 attribute. With this setup I can complete with dragoon2 for 1st in DPS.
Say that to my face again fucker and see what is going to happen.
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>When you play Cleric3 + Kabba2 on kTOS

This is too much fun, please don't nerf this Kim.
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>>154624678
You're a retard anon.

Fletchers don't level up at all because they lose critical %. As soon as they have Fletcher C3 unlocked they max out the only skill that matters with the 5 skill points saved and then start farming and dumping money into the attributes.

Any level 280 fletcher is pathetic damage.

They don't have consistent damage just OP burst. Fletcher is a weak fucking class once they have used their skill they literally sit there and hit Barrage and AFK.
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>every thread during maintenance
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WHy DID they KILL eleMEMES
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>>154624741
is this a meme??
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>>154624835
They killed most classes
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>>154624678
Let's not break out the Dragoon copypasta just yet, anon
not that it's wrong
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>>154624696
ur shit mate
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>>154624696
sakimoe you cant compete with auto attacks you know
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>>154624884
You're unkillable with an INT/CON build

Not even Cyclone's ridiculous DPS can compete in PvP
>>
RANK 8 DELAYED UNTIL OCTOBER
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>>154625294
>didn't actually try to hit 280 because too lazy and mad at this game
BASED
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>>154625294

ALSO OPTIMISATIONS POSSIBLY COMING IN THE NEXT WEEK
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>>154625409
sauce
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>>154625409
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/gm-mango-gives-info-for-optimization-for-tree-of-savior/327055

E M P T Y L I E S
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>>154625521

GM MANGO WAS IN GAME EARLIER ON TODAY AND WAS TALKING A BIT ABOUT FUTURE PLANS FOR THE GAME
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>>154625294
You mean november.
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>>154625521
Stay away from him, you'll become delusional too.
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>>154625608
HAHA 2FPSHOGLAN to 5FPSHOGLAN to 8.5FPSHOGLAN SEEMSGOOD
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>>154625294
>OCTOBER
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>>154625584
The later we get Rank8 the better. Getting it sooner means getting an earlier ktos build, with bugs and everything.
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>>154625734

2017
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>>154625584
Druid3 confirmed for best class
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>>154625828

From the way the Koreans are talking, most of the rank 8 classes are shit, all of them suffer from bugs and most aren't worth picking over just going another circle in one of your previous classes.
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>>154624962

what classes arent kll
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>>154625409
So what if they were able to actually get the game running at a consistent 60fps? I cant even imagine what that would look like.
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>>154625676
THATS LIKE A 250% INCREASE AND 170% INCREASE
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>>154625828
HAHAHAHAH LOOK AT THIS IDIOT. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE SHIT NO MATTER HOW LATE WE GET IT.
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>>154626054

Of course you can't imagine what it'd be like. Because it'll never happen.

Most we can hope for is a few more FPS.
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>>154625997
SR
Krivis
Bokor
Druid
Taoist
Doppel
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>>154626154
>SR
The Koreans think SR3 is a shitpile actually.
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>>154626054
I would actually play the game.

This will never happen though.
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>>154626123
yfw IMC has actually been recoding the game from the ground up to make a flawless playing experience and that's why it looks like they've put minimal effort into the game thus far
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We already FUCKING had an "optimization" patch that did nothing.
Literally nothing.
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>>154626186
They don't spin around while using Assault Fire
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>>154626186
Don't listen to Koreans
I've witnessed 100k+ Cyclones
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>>154626206

Yeah. The mobile version.
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>>154626154
Dragoon, murm and fencer as well as PD should be there too.
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>>154626206
Shut hte FUCLK UP{ idiot
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>>154626347

When are IMC just going to admit they fucked up with the entire stat and skill system and rework it?

Aren't these the same people who worked on Ragnarok Online? How'd they go from a system that worked so fucking well to what we have now?
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>>154626347
>PD
Can someone explain to me why you'd play one?

Their DPS is a joke and I'd much rather have a Krivis3, Oracle or Kabba2 for support.
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>>154626559
>Aren't these the same people who worked on Ragnarok Online?
It's a guy who took the credit for Ragnarok Online and a bunch of rubes who don't know what the fuck is going on anymore.
In fact I don't think our lord and savior is even on the team anymore. He booked early to keep his reputation intact.
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>>154626154
>>154626347
>mfw just making a character I'd think was fun and it is shit

How do I make leveling a reroll less painful?
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>>154626784

He might be working on Awooknights the true savior(tm) of MMOs!
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>>154626732
PD is strong in PVE, especially PD2 they're just completely worthless in PVP. Their damage is really good. Incinerate at level 10 has pretty much 100% uptime with just 1 debuff and plague vapors isn't bad either.
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>>154626206
>"TOS - a tree reborn" in November
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>>154626816
Just make a wizard character that goes AFK necromancer and live in sweet, blissful ignorance
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>>154626206
>>154627012
At this point, I honestly think this is the only way to make the game big again. Every class needs 2 to 4 more skills, at least one more per circle. The stats system needs to be redone from the ground up. All monsters above Lv200 need to be made, instead of using recolors of old monsters. The game's engine has to be rewritten from scratch. So much work to be done.
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>>154626732
Hehehehe yep PD is complete shit, no one else roll one :^)
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>>154626965
>especially PD2 they're just completely worthless in PVP
Are you fucking retarded or what?
The ONLY class capable to REMOVE ENEMY BUFFS is worthless?
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>>154626732
PD is a PvP class and a strong one at it
Of course there are better clerics for PvE but it's not that bad
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>>154627362
>>154626965
Maybe it's just my experience with them, but every single PD I've run into fills my buff slots with shitty Priest buffs and just stands around waiting to Revive.

Feels like they contribute nothing in groups...
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>>154627012

How did the players reacted when they launched a Realm Reborn?
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>>154627265
>long cooldown
>50% land rate
>same animation as incinerate
It's clear you haven't played PD so I'll explain for you. Incinerate, just like Disenchant, requires you to be animation locked for about a full second before it starts the animation. In this time you cannot redirect it.

This means that your target has to be standing still for about 2 seconds between you start the skill and finish it.

This means that, in order for that ebin remove buff shit to work, your target has to be either AFK or already CC'd. That means the things you want to remove most, say Prophecy and Bloodletting, you can never actually remove because they already have those buffs on them and so are immune to your debuff ability.

The only way you can land incinerate or disenchant on someone with CC immunity is with a knockdown. This means you need a class that can provide you knockdowns for a 50% chance at removing buffs with a long cooldown.

Prophecy has a 25 second cooldown by the way.
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why haven't you guys put an end to the tbl meta?
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>>154627362
>PD is a PvP class
laughingnexonforum.jpg
PD was a PVP class when Bloodletting was 24/7. Now Oracle is a PVP class, and PD is a mistake. Kabbalist is the R7 cleric PVP choice, PD brings nothing to PVP except Fumigate which is weaker than it was because Indulgentia removes high level debuffs not too.

>>154627797
is correct about incinerate and disenchant. PD2 is very strong in PVE though.
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>>154627225

Honestly, they need to redesign all classes.

A lot have nothing particularly unique about them, and you just take the class because it's just the best choice for you.
I mean, the only real difference between something like a Ranger and Cannoneer is one is a higher rank and does a shit load more damage.

Every class needs at least a gimmick or some mechanic that makes them unique as well as a decent variety of skills.
>>
>>154627362
>le PVP PD meme
play the ktos forums
>>
Free to play was a mistake.
>>
I was a mistake.
>>
r8 is mistake
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>>154628059

Me too. I remember one day my Dad told me about it.
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>>154627803
SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE NON-CATA3/KABBALIST KEK

PVP IS FINE CHANGE NOTHING
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>>154628131
>>154627803
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>>154628234
they just all happened to pick the same r7 what's wrong with that??
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>>154627362
>posting this while kabbalist exists
Don't you have something to do on Aura Kingdom? There's zero reason to ever have PD in PVP.
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>>154628285
>80% of the top 5 in one game
>3 are kabba and 1 is 10 levels way from being kabba
Nothing's wrong with it, anon. Working as intended.
>>
>Go into a 2v2 with a Kabbafriend
>Guardian Saint eachother
>Sevenfold that shit
>Enemy attacks us and takes double the damage
>>
>>154628234
3 rounds went to time out, 2 of them we won because I bokor'd them at the last second. Fourth round Drew gave up and then died
>>
I hope they reword that useless shielded arm attribute from Murmillo. It literally does nothing at a very high price.
>>
It's up fegz.
>>
So IMC is already out of ideas. What do you think final R10 100k base damage energy bolt will be called?
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>>154612520
Those timers were abandoned due to the blatant abuse by faggots from crimson editing them by 10-30 minutes.
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>>154629904
>Ultimate Maximus <class name> Magic Missle
>50 million dmg gif by IMC
>1 million real dmg
>mobs with 30-250 million HP
>>
>no lag in fedi and 100+fps

this is heaven
>>
Last 5 rewards for this event are...

20 TP
Dungeon Reset scrolls
Token (probably 7 days)
Gem Abrasive
A hat
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>>154630253
>>154629764
So, what's broken?
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>>154630363

https://tos.neet.tv/items/628096

If you do the event every day, this is your final reward.
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>>154630420
We'll they implemented that new event right, so probably dungeon instances
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>>154630420
fullscreen mode
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>>154630363
>>154630648
so is this one of those "do it everyday or else you get nothing" events?
>>
For everyone doing the event, here is an easier way of doing it. The event tells you to pick higher or lower.

Pick 5.
If it tells you to pick lower, pick 3, otherwise pick 8.
From there just work your way up or down. You'll always guess right within 4 tries.
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>>154631608
People already know that from doing gimmicks.
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>>154631514

Each time you complete it you get the next reward down the list.

Drop rate for the items is 40% from any tree root you kill.
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Hey guys help mwee

I clicked on a statue in the abbey and it said something about kill an enemy and get a number. Everytime I kill I get a random number and notification. How to turn it off.
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>>154631971
The graphs from last time were a lot more impressive and the improvements were barely noticeable. Not particularly hyped.
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>>154631971
So that's why I lag like shit
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>>154632054
Go back to the statue and click give up or something
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>>154632054

Go back to the statue and end the gimmick.

I started one somewhere and forgot about it. Can't for the fucking life of me remember where I started it and shit has been annoying me ever since.
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>>154632054
>>154632251
>>
Got 2 8x exp tomes.

Where to optimise the use of them?
>>
>Not many know the server is up
>Having fun because no one's on to be in my way
>Teleporting, attack distance hacking exploiters not around either
>Oh right I can still do gimmicks today
>Realize no one's on so I can't get valuable buffs I need to better survive the areas


>>154632149
>>154631971
The problem is with shit like updating quests(e.g. when you kill a bunch of enemies and the screen freezes from the drops) and otehr shit they call the server a billion times for before letting you progress. If they can tone that down, it'd do wonders.
>>
hey I got 2 enchant scroll. isnt it supposed to be hp pots
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>>154632685
Me too. In b4 maint.
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>>154632685

Ahahaha, IMC fucked up.

They save a variable on your account to track event progress. It was used last event and they never reset it.

You've basically skipped the first 10 rewards.
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>>154632895
better use them then
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>>154631971
I aint falling for this one again Kim
>>
"Greetings Saviors....." soon
Event rewards orders is fucked
>>
>>154633720
For you. Some people got it correctly. It's going to take them a moment to figure out its' not the event that's fucked but their players progression in it.
>>
I bet the moment normal maintenance was supposed to end the emergency maintenance will start
>>
>first guess
>5
>correct
Nice!
>>
I hope the essence does not have a time limit. So I can stack 100 essences so I can just go to the board directly everyday.
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>>154630739
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>get 2 enchant scrolls
>enchant gilt helmet
>phys defense 7
>reroll
>phys defense 9
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>>154633939

Doesn't seem to be a time limit. So stack as many as you want and just do it every day.
>>
Confirmed there is a bug with the event.

If you did the Hunting Season event (which went up to 10 days) you'll start at the reward after the last day you did of that even.
People getting 2 enchant scrolls (day 11 reward) did all 10 days of the Hunting Season event.
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>>154634157
I got accuracy 10 and earth resistance 15
>>
Is it just me or are the meetups starting to feel a little awkward and forced.
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The box strikes again
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>>154634568
Thats trash anyways
None buy the recipe on market, none waste time craft it and none buy the crafted
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>>154631514
You got a month to do it 20 days
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Guards Graveyard
Pick a spot and camp it, they spawn in every 5 seconds.
>>
>>154635753
just go to narudin fall and channel hop
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Does anyone know any scout c3 builds? Does Scout3 or QS3 combine with mergen?
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>>154635836
>Nowhere Bumfucks
Nah.
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Anyone know exactly when servers came up?
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>>154635862
>Does anyone know any scout c3 builds? Does Scout3 or QS3 combine with mergen?
I have a meme build, A2QS3F1 going for musket, I was wondering if aiming at mergen would be a good idea or if F3 was worth it for Preemptive Strike
Also been hearing that Scout 3 split arrow is pretty good, would this work on a build that just focuses on PvE?
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>>154636374
if you're going for Musket you should go for Musket C2 or else you're just splitting your circles poorly. Muskets use muskets, mergens use 2hand bows, weapon switching is quite awful and Musket c2 is stronger than Mergen

F3 is terrible

for R7 go Rogue to get Capture for Double Circling/Double Arrow Rain or Scout for meme cloak.
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>tfw IMC makes you farm crystal roots
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=646

feels good that I got 2 extra scrolls
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>>154636017
3-ish
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>>154618631
>Play blindly
>get a bad skill
>either waste TP or have your skill allocation fucked up, to to mention possible problems in your build as a whole
>everyone can and wants to level 12356 alts to max level
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>>154608227
The class suffers from the same problems barbarian did, so I wouldn't lose hope yet.
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>>154638260
You only need to make an experimental character and then make another one if you don't like the skills. 2 characters. Putting 1 point in a skill won't even kill most damage classes since most of the time more points only means a tiny bit more damage.

>everyone can and wants to level 12356 alts to max level
If they don't they're just going to quit once they finish one, or quit when that one is no longer the meta, so fuck them.
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>>154626306
If you're talking about that one barb2high2 vs a glass mole, that was Skyliner.

>yfw you finally realise why Skyliner has a cd now
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I'm surprised to this day there's no /tosg/ edit of this one yet.
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>>154637552
>>154634290
>>154634157
Got crit resistance ~17 and then holy attack + 32
Thank you IMC.
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>>154636653
>for R7 go Rogue to get Capture for Double Circling/Double Arrow Rain or Scout for meme cloak.
how do you get double on a skill with capture?
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Hi, i am for that ETparty
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>>154638664
I've learned a lot from my mistakes in the game, but it's impractical to have two characters for every possible build and it's variations one can make, it's even worse when you consider the four class trees don't play alike. Have you played all the classes in the game up to their full potential? No one ever gave you some good advice, like where the good item drops, or to buy pardoner buffs, or even about a build you planned to have?
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>>154639638
sick fedimian meme, fuckhead
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>>154639304
It can only capture tiles.
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>>154639645
>but it's impractical to have two characters for every possible build
If you're not making "12356 alts", you don't need to do it that much.

>Have you played all the classes in the game up to their full potential?
I don't wish to, but if I wanted to try one out, I would certainly make one and play whatever I built.

>No one ever gave you some good advice
Not from this fucking thread. I learned so many invaluable things from actually using skills myself instead of listening to this thread's gross exaggerations, including vehemently arguing against the anti-firewall crowd.

In fact, a lot of people in this thread who have used skills and offer negative advice towards it do so after putting a single point or so into a skill and not liking it.

Although I will admit having gotten to play around in a couple betas has given a bigger chance to try things out, even though a lot of knowledge is useless due to changes. But honestly, this thread has time and time again proven to be full of shit, disinfo, and wild allegations.

I mean if you don't really want to truly learn a skill and would rather take /tosg/s "It's shit" assessment for almost everything, then just grab a cookie cutter build, level to max, and then get bored already.
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>impulsively bought star contact lense
>it looks shit on all my characters

What was I thinking.
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>>154640189
Are your characters just not cute enough themselves?
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>>154640560
Not him but the default brown eyes look fucking dead as hell like a god damn Asanagi doujin
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>>154640560

I was going for pic related look, but I didn't realize this lense also comes with blush so it's sorta ruined.

>>154640710

Yeah, reminds me of Geiger Counter every time.
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>>154640710
The colored eyes look creepy as fuck though.
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why the fuck am I not getting tree root essences from every tree root kill? Ive been destroying over 10 tree roots and not a single thing has dropped on me
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when do i get lv8 exp cards from dailies?
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>>154642189
level 180+
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>>154642123
Are you on a map with lots of others? Maybe they're getting your DPK hits.
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>>154640113
>I mean if you don't really want to truly learn a skill and would rather take /tosg/s "It's shit"
I don't mean that, you can and should research your build in various places (YouTube,ingame with people who know more than you about that path, even the forums can help simetimes), which can give you some invaluable advice.
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>>154642278
I was mostly on lone channels
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>>154642209
thank you friend
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>>154642123
Droprate is around 20-25% each crystal, I think.
You're just unlucky.
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>imc now puts all their resources into the ToS mobile game

Rip in kepas
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>>154642865
When is Wolfknights even coming out? It's been in dev as long as ToS.
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>>154642865
what the fuck is wrong with kim tos hype died and there's no interest for wolfknights
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>>154642560

It's a 40% chance.
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>>154643963
Oh, I guess I'm unlucky too.
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>>154610930
enough with this swaaz meme, either tell me directly you have a problem and state why or kindly fuck off. i havent namedropped anyone nor have i dissed any specific person. all i did was spread awareness
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cocks
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>>154644385
Mia, please.
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How should a sapper be statting. How much dex should I have before I just pour the rest into str.

I'll be wearing plate so I should be okay with health? Or should I invest in some con.
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>>154644427
Mia doesn't like cocks!
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Do hunter spells work with hawk?
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Does the event reset at 12?
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>>154645537
yes
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>>154644148
swaz is garbage
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>>154646385
shut up swaz
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I used up all my cards to advance to Rank 6 save for around 15 level 7 and 10 level 8 cards. Was that the wrong call?
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>>154647274
yes
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>>154647274
you're supposed to spend all your 7s and 8s to get to 186, not just rank 6 (doing the quests you unlock with your new levels along the way)
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>>154644438
Don't build aroubd sapper, build around your final class
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Here we could start queuing for GvG now with the session at 3pm
None is forced to part in it but few people willingfull for some TP farming would be nice
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This game is fun, cute and F R U S T R A T I N G !
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>>154647706
I'm still doing the quests that give off level 8 cards. Do I have to grind or something to get past the exp wall?
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>>154649065
you may have fucked up anon, use any xp card calculator to make sure
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>>154649065
Don't worry and keep questing.
At worst you can do killcounts in level9 maps and explore higher level maps.
It's really hard to fuck up badly now
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>>154649065
>>154649486
actually, yeah my bad, if worst comes to worst just eat some lv9 cards and grind in alemeth a little longer/do more 190 dungeons/do more lv9 dailies, it's kind of hard to REALLY mess up now
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>>154649626
What level range is the Alemeth grind?
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>>154648194
>fun
It's boring
The content drought right now is absolute real
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>>154650308
206-230
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>>154650308
210-228, you can theoretically do 190 dungeons and dailies from 190-210, but most people I know card up at 204-205 to 210
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>>154650308
211 - 226 is the optimal range.
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Do I really need to put a point in Bodkin Point arrow?
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>>154650859
Literally only used for the tree in missions and removing some enemy shields in pvp.

If those two extremely situational cases aren't worth 1 point to you then you definitely do not need to.
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Real talk

Should I drop my elememe in the making even though I play sparingly (thus level slowly)? I just wanted some viable AoE damager but all the posters point to the next patch making my class not even viable.
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>queue 217 dungeon for otrava shield
>get animus recipe instead and 2 talts

Fuck. This is frustrating. Anyone in Telsiai? How much is Animus normally? I'll npc this if it's less than 10,000.
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>>154652024
Not sure on your server but on mine is above 10 millions usually.
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>>154652024
I hope this is satire
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>>154634921
Delightful!
I'll miss out on those 10 days for sure
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Why isn't linker 3 chrono 3 a thing
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people who don't play sword3 cata3 in Arena

Beat by Lolipan in TBL today and then it immediately removed my Rank #20 tag.

On the bright side Trot makes collecting Tree Root Crystals easy, so at least there's that. :^)
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>>154611307
"Fresh from Imgur Circle reset announcement"
Am I saved?
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>>154652741
It will be with r8

Full STR or DEX linker chronos to buff their fencer/doppels/dragoons/SR
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>>154651564
No Elememe being useless is a dumb meme, they will still be the most reliable and safe AoE dps there's just alternatives to them now that can outperform them if Frost Cloud isn't hitting near its max number of targets.
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>>154613074
Who cares, the game is shit and they simply can't balance anything without forcing to reroll by either nerfing or buffing stuff.

Class advancement is a much needed feature in this game.
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>elememe is now used
>frost cloud with the new gear is literally 300k deploy and forget damage
>taiost buffs electrocute to 200k
>new mastema brings another 100k damage easily
>dt 10 finishes off everything that survives


>muh 5k mdef mobs

that's just to force party play,
>>
IMC should really add more enemies with 500-600 Evasion.
More fun to fight enemies for me
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>>154653276
>force party play

You mean it's force to pick some phys dps over elememe because elememe will do no damage to half the monsters

If you want to be semi-dps/aoe-support you get wiz3linker3warlock

Frostcloud has no future, the base damage is too low to make, even Dark theurge will only do okayish damage to single targets, but at least with linker you will spread that shit and help your party out
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>>154653458

>half
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>>154653528
75% or so have 2k+ mdef
your cloud is shit with that
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>>154653652
Just transcend your gear, buy frost cloud attribute, and have quickcast+chapp.

Abloobloobloo you can't kill elite mobs with one spell with an unenhanced superior corona and an arde cry me a river.
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>>154653790
you won't kill elite mobs with a FC even if you have 6 months worth of transcendence

Linker3warlock however might have a chance
It's also more useful for party play
Frostcloud is fucking dead
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>>154644427

You sick bastard. What are you talking about? Sexual thoughts about pure, innocent Mia are horrible.

I would never suggest removing Mia's clothes and licking her tiny body all over, nibbling her neck and kissing her adorable little nipples.

Only a heartless monster would think about her cute girlish mouth and tongue wrapped around a thick cock slick with her saliva, pumping in and out of her mouth until it erupts, the cum more than her little throat can swallow. The idea of semen overflowing, dribbling down her chin over her chest, her tiny hand scooping it all up and watching her suck it off her fingertips is just horrible.

You're all a bunch of sick perverts, thinking of spreading her legs, cock poised at the entrance of her pure, tight, virginal pussy, thrusting in, taking her cherry in one quick stroke, listening to her quickening breathing, her girlish moans and gasps, her chest rising and falling rapidly as she reaches her climax, hearing her cry out softly as she has her first orgasm and feels a man's cum flooding through her freshly-deflowered pussy for the first time.

You're all freaks. Mia's too pure for anyone to imagine her in such a terrible situation, and anyone who does is evil, evil, evil.
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I'm starting to think high Cyclone investment will be a bad Memel for doppelc3. With Zornhau having 4 hits and a significantly higher base damage, it'll be hard to find space for it in Cleave's 5s debuff.

Assuming deeds 15, zornhau/zucken/redel 6, DPE 1 and Zwerchhau 1, you'd have 10 points to invest in skills. You have the option to put 5 on Sturtzhau if you're a barb3 (don't think it'll be that good desu), investing on the c2 skills, maybe get a point in Punish for the memes and Cyclone itself. I think I'll try Redel 10, Punish 1 and Cyclone 5
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>>154654028
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>>154653652

even if you consider QC formula, the whole combo of QCFC hail and mastema still deal good aoe damage and DT 10 hit like a truck, poor faggots with lv 45 attributes will suffer, but rich peole with chapas and 90+ will do "fine". elememe is just balanced now as doppel was before
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>>154654028
Mia has a dick.
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>>154654060

cleave has 3 overheats, it's literally 15 seconds of slashing madness. of course you can't land a full cleaved cyclone,
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>all this talk about shit

>no number proofs

???

get on it fegs
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>People still talking like there aren't ways to lower enemy mdef and resistance
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>>154654546
You can only land Cleave with Zwerchhau and muh glass moles once every 30 seconds though, for pure burst those skills now seem better.

I don't know, maybe it's just that I never really liked to rely too much on Cyclone, these atts fore the c2 skills will probably be all I've hoped Doppel to be.
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>>154654738
"b-b-but my elememe can't do that on his own! It's not fair."
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>>154654738

>full spr priest bokor hexing
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>>154654445
No it will not do good aoe damage
THese monsters have 2k+ mdef that means two thousand (2000!) and more sometimes matk will be subtracted from your formula

People don't even have 2k matk right now

Even if we say have some absurdly rich and highly invested elememe with 3k native matk from shittons of transcendece

with chap its gonna be 5.1 matk during that time
add your meme cloud damage then its gonna be like what 5.7k

but then you take off 2k!!! (sometimes even more)
and you're left with 3.7k again

x 1.5 quickcast
x 2 (100% FC attribute)

So you'll get like 11k ticks with FC
WITH ALL THAT DURING CHAPPA UPTIME (which you won't have because they nerfed it to 4 fucking seconds)

Even with maelstis extending your chappa to full FC duration you will just do 350k damage

That is not enough
TO KILL ANYTHING AT ALL
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>>154655059
Won't that make Warlock spells do a bunch more damage too?
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>>154655108

funny people sayin that while pd 2 that don't even have QC are trashing the content like nothing
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>>154655108
>tfw ready to finally quit
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>>154655407
I'm not talking about PD2 though, nor do I know anything about it

And I'm also not talking about non-pve regular grind monsters
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lmao @ japanese servers
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What was your todays lottery number? Mine was 5 and I started from 1 so it wasn't as bad as it could have been. Halfway through I noticed that the max carry of root bubbles is 10 and not 5 which makes for less back and forth.
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>>154655108
>That is not enough to kill anything at all

You aren't supposed to kill elite mobs in 1 spell as a solo player so no shit.
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>>154655680
>202 players in total
guess the nips don't want to eat shit as much as westerners do
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>>154655680
That's the waiting queue. It's actually pretty good. It means all the servers are full, instead of half of them having 0 wait time (i.e. ded)
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>>154655513

pd 2 does magic damage with double incineration and the new skills, plus cure and etc from cleric, but they don't have qc. and they are doing fine. sure, they are independent since they have immunities and heal, but memers hits harder and faster

also, IIRC they fixed the absorv spell, head relates of 60k autoatks from wls
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>>154655813
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I had 15 at one point. And why didn't you start at 5?
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>>154655813
8, i have 30
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>>154655813
My first number was 4, my second number was 1, you should cut possible numbers by halfs instead of going by each number, and you don't have a limit to the number of orbs you can carry.
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>>154656074
Is that so? I was doing kill achievements while collecting bubbles and when I got 10 I did not get any drops for like 20 crystal roots.
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>>154655680
>all the reviews are mocking the game for dropping below 10 fps
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>>154656207
Good
>>
Real talk

no-pelt builds = can be good?

Y/N
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>>154656586
Yeah. Pelt is a convenience for grinding, not a necessity.
>>
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>>154656586
Yes.
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>>154656207
Time to buy a new pc instead of a new phone and polystation.
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>>154656836
This would be a valid reply, if only the problem weren't the game not even using your PC's resources well.
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>>154611420
This was still the biggest troll of a blue mob I found.
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>>154655813
>the max carry of root bubbles is 10
I have 27 on me right now.
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>>154656964
>doing this at class level 14
y-you're supposed to hit rank 3 at level 42 anon!
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Who are the known erpers in this game. I need to know for reasons
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>>154654028
uhh anon please... what the..
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>>154657496
Me and (You) baby *slaps ur azz*
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>>154657496
nobody erps anymore anon.
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>>154657349
That happened back during icbt2, and completely fucked over that character's levelling cycle. I was like "you motherfucker" when I saw it, because I know I couldn't leave it there or someone else would kill it while I went and did my class advancement.
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this fucking guild
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>>154611420
>tfw still have never even seen a blue truffle,corpseplant, coliman, spider, bluenuo, magic fag or anything in maven
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>>154657690
You're wrong friend
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>>154657892
>see blue mob
>dpe
>get a whole level at 260
Why aren't you playing a doppel, anon?
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>>154658013
Because meleecucks aren't human
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>>154658013
>see blue mob
This is where I'm already failing you illiterate doppelnigger.
Can you not read?
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>>154658049
>>154658219
Bit rude desu.
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>>154657839
I wonder from where this come from :D
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>>154658049
Hey, hey! What if...
What if, Lamia...
...is the Revelator's mother?

And that raggedy girl? The Revelator's sister.
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>>154654480
No she doesn't
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>>154658430
Ohayou of course :D xD jk jk
no one in our guild uses emoticons or Kora takes out her whip ;( Owchie~
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>>154655059
Full SPR Cleric2priest3BokorKrivis-->R8 will be the new Meta ;)
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>>154658767
>-->R8
Dude nice future proof build!
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>>154654060
Is sturtzhau even a debuff? I think people might be misunderstanding and the -armor applies to the hit itself. You really take it because it's high base damage multihit.
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>>154658767
I still don't get the one point dip Krivis thing when Aukuras, Zalcai, and Daino are all available as scrolls and in organized GvG you'd want more than Daino 5 anyway.
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>>154659962
No Daino5 is fine in GvG
playgam
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>>154659224
That skill needs some testing, it doesn't sound that great from the information tooltips give, but tooltips aren't really trustable. It's a fake multi hit, but I don't know if it has some hidden multiplier like Seism has, so it doesn't look that great for damage. Unless the tooltip is hiding something, which it probably might be knowing IMC, - 375 def doesn't sound thaat good either when you could be investing those on your damage skills.
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>>154660090
No it really isn't. Safety zone, counterspell, Swole arms/brain is 5 slots on its own. Then your mages will want prophecy, quick cast, sure spell, probably bloodletting because PD love to overlap it with prophecy, revive, stone skin, blessing blah blah blah.
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>>154658545
No you silly
Thats not Ohayou XD
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>>154660314
>swell brain
lmao get outta here LP

no good guild actually brings thauma3s to GvG
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>>154660090
>>154660314
>>154660576
this
fuck of goddamn thaumfaggotniggers
>>
>>154660576
>>154660767
I didn't post that. Swell Brain is okay if you can spare the buff slots, but otherwise it's the first thing you stop casting.
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>Join CnL they said
>It's not an RP guild they said
>It's just a meme they said
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>>154662318
Are they the erp guild
>>
>>154662318
This picture is spooky as hell.

Everyone is very kind too.
>>
When are we getting new costumes?
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>>154662318
nigga it's just one of the new people trying to push that right now
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>>154663748
Next week!
But they are ugly as shit.
>>
Latest from #tosjp.
>>
Even though I quited this shit a week ago, I still browse this garbage thread,
Who wants to blow me?
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>>154663905
So much good Fencer art, not that I'm complaining.
But where are the Doppelmemers at? The outfits are roughly equal in power.
>>
Anything worth from this update?
>>
>>154664056

lol
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>>154664112
only Event and Nothing, literally
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>>154664056
Doppel never gets any good art.
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>>154664112
>Anything worth from this game?
Nope
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>>154664447
There's this old one >>154654060 and pic related. A shame there are so few, really. Guerra fanart when?
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>>154662318
>join CNL
>told I need to pass the initiation first
>taken to a back room in the guild hall
>there's a boy there, tied to a chair and blindfolded
>door locks behind me
What am I supposed to do...? I don't want to be kicked.
>>
>>154664561
>drawing anything for this game
kek
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>>154664662
catch all the monkeys
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>>154664662
fellate his weewee
>>
>>154664447

good draw but anime face ruined it
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>>154664662
unzip your dick
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>>154665158
Are you saying it belongs to me now?
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>>154664662
If you don't want to do unspeakable things to that boy, you always have the option of joining Futureproof.
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>>154665679
Cant say.
You'll know after you passed/failed the initiation.
>>
>join CNL
>told I need to pass the initiation first
>taken to a back room in the guild hall
>there's a cow there, hooked up to a milking machine
>door locks behind me
What am I supposed to do...? I don't want to be kicked.
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>>154666312
post pics
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Would you hit Nicola?
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>>154664662
I'll suggest to
Release him from the suffering of his life as a boy by killing him.
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>>154666447
Tessler?
>>
>>154665976

Daily reminder that girl peltastas are evil sluts, only boy peltas are pure enough to be trusted to protect you.
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>>154667095
>little weak fuccboi protecting me
Hahah nope
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>>154667095
Peltastas are pure maidens.
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>510 posts
>108 unique ip's
shit game
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Have there been any /tosg/ meet ups?
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>>154667406
Yea they were all ded
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>>154667406
He hasn't met up with his ToS crush in private yet

Do you even love her(him(her))?
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>>154667406

Only in sea monkey land.

My guildmates are trying to make me attend the next meet up and I'm running out of excuses. Help.
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>>154667163

There is absolutely nothing wrong with fuccbois.

>>154667289

Completely incorrect.
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>>154667576
>He
>him
Negro pls
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Is anyone in bee experience range and wants to afk some levels? It feels like a waste just throwing away all that experience.

>>154667406
I know someone tried to start a Toronto meet up but people weren't having it.
I would have gone. Sounds like fun.
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Haven't played since Open Beta. Only got to 100 Hunter. Did they ever improve the game/Hunter?
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>>154668158
>improve the game?
yes, but still shit
>improve Hunter?
nah
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>>154668158
they are disgustingly op in pvp
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>>154668158
Did Hunter need improvements?
I mean yeah they do, meh in PvP and two useless skills. But recently we got some buffs. If you mean AI, get good shitter.
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>>154668158
Hunter has been nothing but improved, except that auto-Rushdog is no longer a thing. Retrieve Coursing, and the the skill that pull flying enemies into the ground are now all damage skills that hurt A LOT, and it's really good for PvP.
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>>154668336
I heard you needed to be a Rank 7(?) Swordsman in order to make a guild. Is that really true?
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>>154668773
yes, Templar is a rank 7 swordsman class
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We can compete in GvG!
Agaist small guilds, we fought a big one and they raped us in 1 minutes and 18 seconds
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>>154669005
That sounds dumb. Maybe I'll try the game out again.
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>>154654028
Mia is a man in real life senpai
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>>154670595
>>154654480
lies
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What's best paired with hunter2 at R5 & R6?
A2Hunt2 Scout/Rogue/Fletcher? idk about r7 yet. I just want to make a hunter for fun
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>>154670595
It doesn't matter, if I imagine her enough as a girl, its fine, drugs can do wonderful things these days.

I'm not the Mia admirer, but I do want to fuck Lalacow, I'm even dreaming about milking her for the last 2 nights.
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In comparison, how is GBL in NA/SEA?
Atm we are top 5
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>>154671528
>Lalacow
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>>154671463
You could go Fletcher3 for PvE, or Scout something for PvP. I wouldn't recommend Rogue if you don't take Ranger on R2.
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>>154671598
Crimson is so far above everyone else that it's not fun if they are involved but otherwise it's alright.
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>>154671598
>bragging about a dead server
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>>154671598

With the exception of Comfy, GBL is literally AvantHeim at number 1, 3 guilds competing for top 2-4 and everyone else queue once, win or lose, then never queue again in SEA.
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>>154672201
It will probably be the same here too once people realize GvG is shit.
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OK which is the meme you agents
>elememe is dead
>elememe is now balanced

TELL ME
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>>154672125
Hey, Fedimian got GvG mode today
it's alive server
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>>154672349

In all honesty it's just the impossibly strong guild dominating that's the problem. 6,000 TP is a lot. Whoever climbs up first, secure 6,000 TP, they can do a lot with that legitimately like selling tokens and hats, spending that money on attributes. After a week or two, they don't even have to do any shady business to stay on top with this sort of funding.

As an effect of that, all the other guilds want free TP too but no realistic way to compete with them, so they do the only smart and right thing to do which is queue once, get into ranking, claim free TP.
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Completely missed this game, just started up a few hours ago and have landed @ Wiz2. I can't get a good feeling, despite reading some class guides, as to what is actually viable?

I was thinking of going Wiz3, what meshes well with it currently?
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>>154673705
If you're going wiz3, you're going the dps path
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>>154673705
Wiz 3 goes with almost anything since it gives +50% permanent damage boost. Right now meta dps build for PvE is Wiz 3 Ele 3 Warlock, but Necromancer is also a popular class that utilizes Wiz 3 for its Flesh cannon ability and Runecaster while unpopular also greatly benefits from the increased cast speed.
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>>154673065
Not only that, people will want to join the strongest guild for free TP so the one at the top will just become stronger and stronger.
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>>154673065
>Selling TP shit for less than 2m a week is a lot

What is this nigga saying?
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>>154674471
A token is 99 TP
Do the math stupid bird
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saw some sissel bracelets at the market recently, I'm missing something? R8 literally demands critical rate
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>>154674365
like a Ponzi Piramid?
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>>154674913
People also demands money and they are smart enough to reroll Clerics
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>>154674560
Ok my bad, you get about 800k a week, is that meant to be a lot?
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How do I level a no-pelt build at amazing hihg speed?
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the blue hair achievement is account wide?
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>>154675207
You reroll to ranger sr
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>>154673065
Tying these much TP to GBL is a bad idea for IMC's bottom line too, considering the population is small and most of the whales are in these big guilds. Now they can't tone down TP rewards without significant backlash from these players either.
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>>154675207

highlander barb 3

I don't believe that ranger is faster, as a sword you can literallydash 24/7 with just small stamina pills that cost almost nothing, so questing is faster and cartar stroke + seism eats everything alive up to 200, after that, get a good two handed sword and use stun cleave + cyclone. ranger is just barrage and while you can take scout, dashing is still faster
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>>154675206

That's 48,000,000 silver per week you dip. Just because your communist guild spreads the TP evenly doesn't mean all the guild does that. They could use that 48 mil to buy equipments, invest in their top DPS' attributes on top of everything else they're powerstacking.

"Okay, this week Faggot McFaggotson, our Fletcher, gets 20m for a +15 weapon. Everyone else gets the remainder." for example, you baka.
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>>154675340
Nope, per character
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>>154675637

just
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>>154675629
Except in practice none of that shit happens and useless waste of guildslots that don't even GvG gets some of the cut.
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5 lv10 Glass Moles+ 5 Deeds are a mistake
And i have a +5 weapon only
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>>154675935
Eh, it's fine. Just always do Big Accident or Enemy Smell. If its none of those, leave party, start a new one. Half an hour per day for 5 days.
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>>154675629
>things that don't happen the post
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>>154676109

You're not looking at the bigger picture here. Let's say you have two guilds, guild A and guild B.

Guild A gets to be number 1 and secure 6,000 TP.

Guild B joins GBL a bit late, say 2 weeks afterwards. Now guild A has a lot of advantage, but that's a given.

Guild A continues to rack up in money from GBL, which in turn contributes to their power in WB hunting and continue to fund their members. Unless guild B RMTs, they literally can't catch up to guild A's monopoly of the weekly 6,000 TP.
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>>154676147
Meanwhile a PD2 with no cards and a 300+ white weapon with no upgrades presses two buttons and clears a wave of R8 mobs.
Thanks for loving clerics, IMC. We appreciate it.
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>>154676368

Hm, I'll try this. But doing this don't rinder your progression? I mean, less gems or less chance to get the dumbbell, not sure hwo it works. I got a defeat flag one day
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>>154676618
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>>154676628

And people think that magic is nothing
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>>154676147
I don't get it, that's a lot
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>>154676897
How would it? It only counts those that you finish, not like normal mercenary quests. So you can still do 5 party quests a day!
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>>154676628
>300+ white weapon

See how I know you're full of shit?
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>>154677027
not an argument
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>>154677215
Are you implying you need more than that or are you intentionally missing the point as an excuse to shitpost?
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>>154676618
>WB hunting
???
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>>154677543
World Bosses anon.
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>>154677634
Duh you BAKA!

I'm saying virtually nobody does world bosses for money anymore.
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>>154677787
Necro is very well camped.
Petameme will never drop too low.
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>>154677787

How do you think fine american rifles, bandit and circle rods get to the market, anon?
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>>154676628
>>154676618
>>154677959
I usually hate that stupid meme but people who don't even play the game should just fuck off.
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>>154677959
>necro
game the play
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>>154678305
>people who haven't even tried R8 yet asking others to play the game
ayy

this post is bait
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>want to run game
>it just open the patcher but then it closes itself

how do i fix that?
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>>154676147
My ovaries.
I get slightly over that with Deeds10 and no moles, can't fucking wait.
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>>154679353
Uninstall your exploits
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Just started my first Wizard, I want to take it to Pyro3 and then work from there.
Liking the class so far, it's fun as fuck but I'm uncertain on the skill point distribution; tentatively doing this so far
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222..1f2e3141586571

I've heard very good things about maxed Firewall, and while Flame Ground is good and the increased uptime would be good, it's probably not worth leveling over the other skills.
Is Fire Pillar worth maxing? What exactly does its debuff effect do? Also, is Hell's Breath worth getting at all?
If anyone can help shed some light on any of this, I'd be grateful.


>>154679353
I think you may be fucked. Whenever that happens to me or someone I know, usually uninstalling then nuking the game folder before a clean reinstall does the trick, if worst comes to worst. Try verifying cache and all that stuff first, though.
You can also try nuking your add-ons (AppData/Roaming/tree-of-savior-add-on manager, or whatever also needs to be deleted) and installing those again.
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>>154679914
i use none. But FUCKING windows 10 updated without asking me and installed fucking cortana.
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>>154679353
Verify Integrity of Game Cache
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Should I bother with storage at 273? no maven parties
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>>154681470
No.
Do killcounts if you didn't do them yet.
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>>154680570
The most important thing to know about Pyro is that it can't function properly without Linker. Pyro without Linker is one of the worst classes in the game, especially in group PvE or in PvP.

You only need 1 point in Hell's Breath (unless the debuff proc% is based on skill level? not wasting a reset to know that), 0 in Flare (aggro quests or Joint Penalty). If, for some stupid reason you refuse to listen to my advice and decide NOT to go Linker, then put 0 points in Fire Wall as it is just a shitty boss killing cooldown.
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>>154680570

As a Pyro you need a level of Linker (actually, almost all Wizards need a level of Linker).

You also want to max Flame Ground. It and Fireball will be your main sources of damage.
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>>154683163
Flame Ground extra duration is almost never needed though. Maybe on bosses but the extra 15-20 ticks every 25 seconds aren't worth 14 points when you could be spending those points on Fire Wall/Pillar instead. And if you're rolling Pyro to kill bosses, you're doing it wrong.
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>>154684242

Flame Ground is literally your only other (kind of) spammable ability outside of fireball. You'll seriously regret not having 100% uptime on it.

As for Fire Wall. Not sure who told you to get it, but I think you're being rused. It's pretty much one of the worst abilities in the entire game.
Fire Pillar is good though. Shame it has a 2 minute cooldown so you're not going to be using it very often.
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>>154682872
I did't mention Linker because I thought it was obvious I'd be getting it, but that works. Good to know Flare can be skipped because of JP, as well.
From what I understand, Fire Wall is good precisely because of JP making mobs take up only one hit per tick due to AoEDR, or some such bullshit. Thanks for clearing that up.

>>154683163
I'm reticent about touching Ground past 1, mainly because of how the only good thing leveling it up gives you is a longer duration. Those points could probably go to other, more useful skills (like Firewall or a maxed Pillar), I feel. Still, I've heard maxing Ground is the way to go if you decide to stop at Pyro2.
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>>154684635

Oh yeah, this is coming from someone who is ready to hit rank 8 and leveled up entirely using nothing but Pyromancer abilities.
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Cleric2/bokor3/pardoner/pd2
or
Cleric2/bokor2/diev/pardoner/pd2
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>>154685402
go bokor 3
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anyone know a decent way to farm these tree root shits?
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>>154685402
Neither.
Cleric 2 bokor 2 pardoner miko pd2
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>>154686107
why do you need to farm them? you get like 60 in an hour by just questing or whatever.
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>>154686107
istora has wonky tree roots. I can't remember the other map
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>>154686354
cant play everyday
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Is it worth it to use the new 300% tomes in Alemeth? I'm kind of tired of the grind there. I'm around 218 at the moment.
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>>154686451
Namu?
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>>154685402
>Diev1
>Pardoner

???!?!?
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>>154686883
No.
They are shit outside of dungs/missions
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>>154656727
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>>154686883

It'll help a bit, but don't expect miracles.

Best time to use them is if you find a blue mob that is also one of those mobs with 100k+ hp (since they give like 15k+ exp, which with the blue buff and scroll would be 15 million for 1 kill).
Second best time is if you have a good grinding party.

Outside of that they're shit. Dungeons and missions give no fucking exp so even with a 4x bonus you're getting fuck all.
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>class reset may become a thing

lmao
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>>154687839
if it does then i quit
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>>154687839
>level as a dps wizard
>reset into a support
easymode
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>>154686642
you can't play an hour every 3 days?
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>>154687839
I really hope they don't, if they do all the metawhores that picked classes for numbers instead of theme+role can now be carbon copies of each other with no effort, it's just no fun when that happens.
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>>154687839
>requires a stat reset potion+skill reset potion to craft
>only resets one rank per potion
acceptable?
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>>154687839

IMC would be retarded to not add some kind of limit to it.

It'll either be expensive as fuck, be limited to how often you can use it (like once a month or just once a character) or you'll only be able to obtain it around the time new ranks are added.

I don't agree with just being able to change your build on the fly, but the nature of the game means once new ranks are added people need to be able to do something about it. The grind to rank 8 is shitty and becoming harder to do as player count is dropping to below sustainable levels for group content.
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>>154680601
https://a.pomf.cat/pkbxlp.webm
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What's the best stat distribution for a plague doctor build?
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>>154688342
welp. now microsoft knows I'm into traps.
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>>154687839
citation needed
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I'm most sure it will be a one circle kill or something like this (ex: you went wiz 2 pyro 1 for your elememe, you can pick wiz 3 and remove pyro 1), totall reroll seems unlikely. So this totall "level as a fast pve char and reroll into support" is hardly happening
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>>154688559
DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT YOU BIMBO
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>>154688829
Krivis3 + INCINERATE
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>>154687132
You can either pick bokor3 or another filler rank for this build, diev is the usual choice because laima
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>>154688639
the best part is that his solution doesn't turn it off
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>>154688259
>add a feature that requires an item that cannot be acquired
You know what, it sounds so retarded I think IMC might do it.
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>>154688829
don't yell at him
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>>154688943
int/con
proc debuff with zalacai, hit incinerate
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So would a 8x and 4x exp tome stack with each other?
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>>154689216

No.
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>>154687839
>its a ET F40 drop
how dare you thinking about getting that item if you dont RMT
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Anyone else gonna quit when rank 8 comes out
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>>154690554
If that's the case you might as well quit now. You're probably just a random attention seeker anyways. Enjoy your (you).
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>>154690554
i'll quit if this

>>154687839
>>
>With the way the TBL is scheduled, the first one in the morning after maint will either be missed entirely, or wasteland, since nobody's online yet
>The next will coincide with when Steam goes down weekly

why
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>>154689113

one point into that defense removal deuff com cleric 1 maybe worth too, sometimes monsters resist zalciai, and they both stack. aukuras helps too
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>>154673065
Having one strong guild dominating has nothing to do with the main problems of a completely broken, bugged system. If you removed Crimson you'd still have rankings that don't update, low framerates, queuing once a week to avoid the risk of losing, exploiting, crashing out of games and being unable to get back in, getting your week ruined by a few bad matchups, cheesing the queue to get easy matchups, people getting pissed off over real pvp breaking out because they just want to cheese TP instead, only half your team getting into a match, time zones locking out lots of players, and more. If they fixed all of that shit, having an impossibly strong guild would just mean 2000TP instead of 6000.
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>>154687839
For a game that requires such a heavy time investment on learning classes and combinations, finding what builds work and what doesn't, it's amazing it's been this long without coming out honestly.

Personally, my first character was Ranger3 back on early launch, which I had to quit 10X when I heard SA had been nerfed from Korea and was pretty shit. Then, I made an elememe, which I had found out pretty quickly I didn't like playing and quit at rank 5. Then, a Chrono, which I had found out even quicker that I hated playing, also at rank 5. What I ended up playing after making a few more characters is that I really liked playing Sapper/Wugu/Cannon. If I had rank resets, I would have been able to experiment more with my beginning character, and I would have not wasted so much time leveling up characters I didn't like playing.

This is a core problem in TOS. You can't know if you'll like higher rank classes until you reach them, and rerolling requires a huge time commitment. If your class is nerfed, you had no idea and couldn't possibly plan for it, and you'd need to reroll to stay competitive. This is not even touching players who make choices without planning beforehand.

I can't possibly understand how people could be against this. If you're worried about your class being bandwagoned, you're already too late.
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>>154692204
it will lead to people levelling easily with damage classes and rerolling into support without having to endure the suffering of no damage for 200 levels.
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>>154692204

I agree if it works, using your case as exemple, one rank reroll with a month or two of cooldown, in your case you could remove r3 to get a2.

if the game actually had a good end-game content, this would never be an issue, but imc counts on rerolls to keep the game "alive"
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>>154692204
>I can't possibly understand how people could be against this.

Autism. Not the "fucktard on the internet" kind, either. These faggots simply have no concept of other people.
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CLASS TIER LIST

> A-Tier
Schwarzer Reiter, Krivis, Druid, Taoist, Doppelsoeldner, Dragoon, Murmillo

> B-Tier
Ranger, Fletcher, Plague Doctor, Kabbalist, Cataphract, Fencer, Cryomancer

> C-Tier
Everything Else

> D-Tier
Bokor, Sadhu, Corsair, Rune Caster, Enchanter
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>>154692696

R7 or r8? either way, lots of mistakes
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>>154687280
>not wanting to play games while eating 'zzas
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>>154687839
>"Balance" your game
>People realize how horrible it is, those who don't quit reroll before hitting 280
>Perform "Balance" changes who fix nothing
>People once again reroll for the flavor of the week buffs you gave, still not hit 280
>Show update of R8, who shows a shitload of builds are now shit, some even completely irredeemable
>People once again forced to reroll to be ultra optimal with the ridiculous power creep of new content
>Bleed MMO kiddies who you initially thought you were attracting with quest themepark
>"OH SHIT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE TO BALANCE THIS SHIT"
>NOPE
>Class Resets
>ToSElitists.com builds 24/7, 9999 CryoChronos, Ultra Pardoners/Squires everywhere, Templar C3s, etc.
>Balance is still shit
>At least you won't get Sadhus in your party anymore.
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>>154692939
R8
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I sure hope STR is a relevant stat by the time R8 comes out.
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>>154692696
>"I don't play the game" the post
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>>154693003
and then all the existing cryochronos, alchemists and squires quit in disgust
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>>154693003
>At least you won't get Sadhus + Monks in your party anymore.
worth it
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>>154693003
Hopefully I stop seeing Plague Doctors
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>>154692453
What's wrong with that, exactly? Are you honestly saying if people want to play support classes, they should suffer through leveling? That's retarded. If they want to level as a dps and switch to support later on, the only thing that's being lost is the extra time it takes to level as a support.
>>154692612
I have yet to see a convincing argument against it.
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>>154693215
>CryoChronos,Alche masochists mad as fuck
>Change into even more fucking gimmick meme tier Full DEX Linker C3
>Jewquires masochists mad as fuck
>Change into Corsair C3 for pillaging
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>>154693527
>Are you honestly saying if people want to play support classes, they should suffer through leveling?
yes that's exactly what i'm saying.
i'm also saying you sound like a lazy nigger.
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Quick, what's the most useful:
>Archer class
>Cleric class
>Swordsman class
>Wizard class
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>>154693046

it kinda is for the highest dps of the moment: doppel.

>how?

while huge damage weapons is a thing, having lots of str is a good investment for deeds 15 builds + mole + melstis teams. You just need to protect the doppel, they are the real glass canon now. If course one can roll very high dex to have a good time solo, but str potential is way higher
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>>154693702
useful for what exactly?
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>>154693702
>Archer
Schwarzer Reiter

>Cleric
Druid for DPS, Kabbalist for Support

>Swordsman
Doppel

>Wizard
Linker
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>>154693621
>>154693527
>>154692453
>i had a "hard time" lvling my supp so everyone else who want to lvl a supp needs to have a "hard time" lvling too

ur just a egoistic faggot and dont care about shit
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>>154693842
>i'll get all the benefits of being a support while having easy leveling until parties are common
faggot
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>>154693753
>to have a good time solo
>R8
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>>154693992
>please dont improve the game, everyone has to suffer like i did
kysmm
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A lot of people quit when they realized they fucked up their build, this may bring them back.
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>>154692696
>>154693753
>>154693841
>>154626154
>>154652804

Why does /tosg/ think doppel is so good recently? Didn't you guys say it was shit compared to Dragoon and Fencer some time ago?
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>people suggest class reset
>all the support kiritos getting buttblasted because they solo quested to 200 and til then only parties when in missions/dungeons rather than acting like a real support and making friends who carry you in return for amazing utility


Not surprising but Jesus guys don't make it this obvious you only bash forum kiritos because you see a bit of yourself in them.
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>>154694162
why don't you just ask for an item to let you buy levels and class exp instead, lazy kike
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>>154693702

cleric of course
without heal everybody dies
if people die, you ress
in case of dps, they have 2-3 builds that can solo well
>>
>>154693621
There's no reason to let that be the case, supports are needed in parties and end game content. Anything that makes it easier to let people reach that point is a good thing. You're just being selfish because you feel cheated that you had to level so slowly.
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>>154694223
but that is not fair.
poor anon suffered and everyone else also has to!
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>>154694296
i feel like you should be forced to level as the class you chose. if you can simply buy another class there's no reason to have the lower levels at all.
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>>154694223
>when they realized they fucked up their build
Or when IMC just shit on their class with a stealth patch for no reason
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>>154694260
ktos update removed cooldown penalty from doppel's attributes.
>>
>>154694437
>>154694268
>I QUESTED SO HARD AND """EARNED"""" MY SUPPORT SKILLS! DONT DARE MAKING IT EASYER/BETTER FOR ANYONE
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>>154694590
i'm sorry you don't like your elememe anymore cuntrag but maybe you should play the game
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>>154694162
You are a fucking faggot.
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>>154694674
>but maybe you should play the game
i do.
im lvling my dps so i can change it to support later :^)
>>
I QUESTED SO FAR
>>
Are there any builds that utilize Swordsman 3 in a decent way? I really like the costume and I kind of want to make one.
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>>154694770
i can hear you over how easy i lvl my soon*tm support with a currently dps build
>>
i think class reset will cost 189 TP, no cooldown, and it will reset all your classes.
>>
Why do people say we get class reset

I dont mind it desu
But I know IMC is incapable of implementing it
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>>154695085
Cata 3, famalan?
Also barbdoppel. Basically all the "lol i press one button to shit out constant damage" classes.
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>>154695143
*cant

:^)
>>
>>154692204
You described exactly why it would be dumb for imc to add resets: it would remove the main activity using up player time. Running out of things to do was already one of the most common reasons for quitting, and without rerolling, there really won't be anything to do.

Classes aren't being fully bandwagoned now, and most people stick with not quite optimal builds instead of rerolling for a small gain after nerfs and buffs. Resets would completely kill the low and mid level game, and exacerbate all balance problems. The only reason you'd be for resets is if you want to kill off 90% of the game.

>>154693527
Of course they should "suffer" through leveling and of course there should be a reason to group while leveling. Fuck off and play a MOBA if you hate RPGs.

If you wanted a try out dressing room for experimenting with how skills work, that would be one thing, but you're seriously trying to turn this into another wow style "spend a few weeks rushing to the cap and then sit in town" mess when there's no decent endgame to occupy anyone.
>>
>agonize your way to R8
>IMC decides they're going to absolutely fuck up some of your class choices beyond all repair because they don't play the game and they think they're balancing it
>Oy vey what a travesty there are no plans to undo this change, lucky for you we have these class reset potions on our store. Or you could reroll again heheh
I'm surprised they didn't do this sooner.
>>
>>154694043

he just need to marry a cute cleric and a chrono and provide the house with boss cubes
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>Class reset is a consumable and get it through the mail
>Put it on the character you want
>Log in and use it
>RED TEXT ON THE SCREEN ERROR:INSUFFICIENT
>Client crashes
>Restart the client and open your lodge
>Your character got deleted
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>>154695305
a dressing room would be a great idea actually, maybe appropriate dungeons for testing by level too
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>>154694265
>support kirito
This is an oxymoron. You really mean you were ksing and shitting on them at low levels, and now you want to steal their high level utility too and shit on them again.
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I can't believe /tosg/ is actually defending class resets. It beats the entire purpose of multiclassing, and with such a small variety of endgame content, people will roll nothing but 100% meta builds.

Class resets are the ultimate cancer. They're the ultimate pandering to casuals. It's the ultimate "We don't gave a fuck about the original artistic vision anymore" from IMC.
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>>154695524
>waaaaaah

I said "don't make it this obvious", not "make it this obvious".
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Fucking whiny faggots, all of you.
I leveled a full CON cleric to lv280 when there's not enough quest on 200+ maps and managed to solo my way by spamming autoattack (without jewbuff) until alemeth area. After that it's easy mode because everyone and their son will lick my toe for that delicious heal tiles.
Now you can buy jewbuff and +10 equip with money from your main, not to mention all the new quest will carry you to maven level range
>>
>>154694296
>Anything that makes it easier to let people reach that point is a good thing.
You're missing the point of games entirely.
>>
how does this event work? is it like the hide and seek event?

are the prizes cumulative between characters?

So if I do today on one character and tomorrow on another, i'll get the second prize right?
>>
They should have had a test server where you can test any class and any content to be honest.
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>>154695572
>Lolipan is against class reset

And class reset just got one more supporter.
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>>154695572
well you dont mind to have complete utterly shit builds, but many other players do.
>>
>>154695432
I was just thinking this, or your character's classes are somehow randomized. Gm class maybe, some fucking nonsense.

There is zero way this is going to be introduced without destroying the game the same way it happened in icbt2. I can't wait
>>
SUFFER

SUFFER AS I DID YOU MORTALS
>>
>>154688730

https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/52jna5/gm_mango_hints_at_class_reset/
>>
>>154695623
>easy low lvl quests took me a little longer
oh wow. poor soul. i'll pray for you
>>
>>154695713
loli has enough high levels and tp to always be overpowered if he can reset
>>
>>154695305
Your argument hinges on the fact that IMC doesn't make endgame content, which, while might have been true over these last few months, we now have things like Saalus, Uphill, and R8 coming around the corner. Resets will probably be gated behind TP or some sort of other restrictions, and not everyone would take advantage of it for that reason. It's important they still have that option. It wouldn't stop anyone from making different class archetypes either. I can't imagine you'd be able to switch from Archer to Swordsman in any possible implementation.

The rest of your post is just nonsense.
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>>154695713
I am against anything that would dumb this game down any further than it's already been done. The real reason people are bored is because they removed every single form of adversity from it. The adversity caused by getting killed by enemy guilds, the adversity caused by not having all your quests marked on the map, the adversity of not having enough quests so you can just questhub your way until close to the level cap, the adversity from having to make your own parties instead of relying on an auto-queuer, etc.

>>154695830
My builds are all about gambling. Instead of choosing what's good now, I picked things I thought would be better in the future. They are good enough to get by, while not being broken.
>>
Instead of a class change, why not a TP item that transforms your companion into an experience potion that gets you to the companions same level.

A bit of sacrifice, they make money, and it still requires you to have played a main far enough for it to be worthwhile.
>>
>>154696224
up until 180 they take a little longer, after that if you want to quest you have to bother other players to help you (which thankfully they're willing to do most of the time).
it also means you're not using that character to farm drops.
>>
>>154696368
you made builds like a retard and fell for the 12.5% meme. Better in the future my ass, even Murmillo can't compete with other R8 memes.
>>
>>154696368
>My builds are all about gambling
And you have been lucky.
What if they never made any of your builds 'good'?
And if you made more chars, nerf or destroy them too?
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>>154696284
saalus is only endgame because it's the only place to get transcendence, otherwise it's just another boring mission.
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>still in full damage control mode
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>>154696434
still the same

>lvl pet to 285 with a dps char
(that's even 'fast' with all day maven in good party)
>use that pet to make a support char to 280 instantly
>lvl next pet in maven...

maybe even worse
>>
>>154692453
>>154692453
Easier leveling is bullshit. It will lead to less time consuming and less tedious leveling, which is a good thing, and it will also lead to more money in IMC's pockets which keeps the game alive longer, which is also a good thing.

If there was any difficulty or merit involved in leveling a low dps or support class, then maybe there'd be an argument to be made. Maybe.
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>>154696861
>hit advancement rank 2 at level 280
Futureproofed
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Let's look at the drawback and advantage of class reset.

Drawbacks:
-Fucking casuals can enjoy the game more.
-A few players will quit because this shitty game will become less hardcore, and by hardcore i mean imc fucking you randomly with nerfs, buffing random class that would have been thousand oftime better for your build or r+1 screwing you as a whole.

Advantages:
-The game would have bled players at a slower rate, too late now though.
-No fear of the unknown, you can now have fun with your character knowing that whatever happens in r+1, you'll be fine.
-More flexibility for buff and nerfs because players can now reset in case they are unhappy with a change, or think x class is better after a buff.

Honestly, class reset would only improve the game.
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>>154696604
Then I would've kept rerolling until I got it right. My iCBT and kTOS Rodeleros were garbage, it was only on the 3rd attempt that I got it right. People who don't want to grind shouldn't be playing MMOs in the first place.

>>154696520
>C1 of a class isn't amazing
Some of the major balance issues in this game are centered around C1 of certain classes being too good(Linker, Scout, Oracle, Kabba, etc). Murmillo is okay, more than okay enough to get by, and in all likelihood it won't be hit with the nerfhammer. More than good enough for what I need it for.

I did fall for the 12.5% meme and it's still embarassing, though.
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>>154696861
it wouldn't be completely awful if they needed to get all the class exp themselves. it would still be a lot faster for the player in question, but they'd have to use the piss skills a bit.
at 280 (as a useful class) you probably know enough people to power level a new character anyway.
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>>154695623
just kill yourself mate
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>>154696284
>and R8
Stopped reading here. That's no different from R7, and no different from R6. If Saalus is your idea of endgame you really are trying to kill the game off.
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>>154697056
but
>MUH SUFFERING
>MUH HARD QUESTING
>>
>People bitching about class reset and saying just level an alt

Have any of you tried levelling an alt recently? Shit is a lot harder now.
No dungeon queues so throw that exp out of the window.
Lots of lower level grinding spots are either full of bots or nerfed. You cannot do those anymore.
Even if you find a good grinding spot, you can't do it anymore because no one plays.

Those slumps at 160 for example are a lot harder to get over now simply because no one fucking plays anymore so any party related content is inaccessible to you.
Man it's getting hard to find a grinding party at 240+ due to lack of players and today I spent over an hour queuing for missions and I'm 260.

Lets not even mention how dull grinding an alt is.
>>
>>154697129
lets say >>154696434 would happen now.

party of 5 ppl/friends/guildmates
4 useing there old280s to lvl pets in maven all day
one of them leeching class exp with a new pet-boosted char
change everytime one maxes

or 3 old, 2 new chars

still the same "U NO SUFFER WITH SUPP CHAR" bullshit
>>
I was finally able to click the redeem button, so we've got some TP to go around this time. It's not enough for everyone(it ignored our 2 victory and only counted our loss, so we ranked 10th) but if you really need it I can pitch some your way.
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>>154697584
I would love to level an alt, but all my good gear is untradable, as well as all the money I've spent on attributes really makes it hard for me to reroll.
>>
>>154696434
Why don't you play the game instead of trying to ruin everything with pay2win?
>>
>>154697704
Give it to the others. I wasn't exactly helpful and it's not like I'm really playing anyway.

You know who this is
>>
>>154697180
did you really just reply to yourself?
>>
>>154695907

hookers can switch class at will already
>>
>>154697946
I did not
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>>154697969
This, don't shoehorn your stupid class reset idea, you can already do this if you want.
>>
Why are you all so gullible?

Is there anything you won't believe? There aren't going to be class resets.
>>
>>154697969

Not anymore. Feature was removed from it because it was way too easy to track and was resulting in too many people getting banned.
>>
>>154696742
thats not damage control, thats faking an insanity plea
>>
>>154697969
>>154698109
No I'm saying any class reset introduced will be glitchy as fuck. We'll get randomized classes or classes like Mimic that are just a name with no skills or anything. Some guy is going to end up as a gm.

Fucking great
>>
>>154696202
It'll be a one circle reset, with forfeit of all class exp/levels gained and all attributes as well.

This one faggot shilling class resets is the ultimate cuck and should really fucking top himself. Also fucking good lord these motherfuckers are why this game is so cancerous. Why does this game attract such subhuman cunts who are not only the scum of society but don't even realise it, who scream out in unison about the first thing that pops into their head and all bandwagon each other. This community is literally one of the worst I've ever seen and the majority should fucking kill themselves but since they'd be too stupid to even achieve that should never be allowed to breed.
>>
>>154697584
>No dungeon queues so throw that exp out of the window.
I just had 3 full 145 today and 3 full 130 yesterday.
>Lots of lower level grinding spots are either full of bots or nerfed. You cannot do those anymore.
You should have never grinded at low levels anyway.

>queuing for missions
>260
That explains it, you're retarded.
>>
>>154696604
You've missed the fucking point of gambling you dumbcunt
>>
>be level 172
>wear 75 armor

Do people buy all their armor from the trading house once the quests stop giving them?
>>
>>154699265
yes, or

>farm them from mobs/dungeons
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>Physical attacks
>You can dodge or block them
>If it's melee you can even kite them

>Magic attacks
>You can die
>>
>>154699419
Fugg, what is the usual plate armor in that 170 level range? I'm looking at the wiki for some armor to tide me over until I can start farming for the things
>>
>>154699265
Knight's armor is dirt cheap, buy that
After that it's Superior Royal Guard/Grynas and you'll never have to worry about armor again, unless you want Virtov.
>>
>>154699094

Did you ever think maybe the community is shit because it's full of shit heads like you who cannot understand people have different opinions?

You sound like a spoilt ass only child who was raised in an environment that never taught you empathy or even basic consideration for other people.
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>>154699932
you sound like a stone cold killer for what that's worth.
kill your mother first.
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Well I think the /tosg/ community is nice.
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1) Which classes have the best male costumes inb4 sorc
2) What is the most handsome TP male haircut
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>>154699839
Thanks!
>>
Does this game hate groups?

I'm playing with a party since lv1 and we cant even get past lv50 because of the nonexistent xp from lv 35 mobs.
>>
>>154700113
Is that Jeb Bush?
>>
>>154699651

>MFW Thaumas Trail and those faggot ass Blue Wendigo Shamans

HOLY SHIT STOP FUCKING KNOCKING ME DOWN THEY SPAM THAT SHIT SO FAST I CANNOT DO SHIT AND IT HITS LIKE A FUCKING TRUCK
>>
>>154699985

how many tries for that tower shield? I want one but giving up 750k from the 130 dungeon to get 20 is just
>>
>>154700154
Are you guys grinding or are you questing for EXP cards?
>>
>>154699932
You sound like a top-tier entitled prissy cunt and if you think the "opinions" of all these whiny fucks should be relevant then you are what is wrong with this world.
>>
>>154697058
>I did fall for the 12.5% meme
What meme is that? To be fair, who here hasn't fallen for a meme?
>>
>>154700225
Didel tower shield drops from the 200 and i think the 190 anon.
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>>154700149
>>
>>154700154
Use your EXP cards or start the other city's quest line.
The good grinding points are at higher levels, if you wanted to grind anyway.
>>
>>154699419
Knight Armor/Leggings. Basically free. Upgrade them to +4 or +5 and you get to throw them on alts forever.

>>154699651
>not knowing how to defend from magic attacks

10 points from Gryffindor!
>>
>>154697825
Same.
>>
>>154700405
WE'RE CIA AND CHAOS IS A LADDAH
>>
>>154700329

How does it feel living in a world where you don't get your way by stomping your feet and screaming "BUUUT MOOOOM"?
>>
>>154700154
is this bait?
>>
>>154700154
Oh, if you are at lvl 50, do the 50 dungeon. Speeds up leveling quite a bit, also group play.
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>boss strategies at 280 are to stand in safety zone and spam all your abilities as fast as you can because the entire screen is covered in inescapable AOEs that deal so much damage to you that it feels like there's a 20 level difference
>>
>>154700113
Dragoon
Fencer

Cute
>>
>>154700310
>>154700442

We limit our usage of exp cards so we only use lv 1 and 2 before lv50 because the guides i found says there are multiple exp walls so you dont want to use all your cards.

We also finished both Klaipeda and Orsha quest line, still stuck at 38-42ish.
>>
>>154700561
Your comprehensive skills are extremely lacking, please pay attention in school and/or apply your braincells.
>>
>>154700984
>because the guides
forget them. they are old or bullshit

use cards until you get new quests

dont grind below Lv210
>>
>>154700984
>We limit our usage of exp cards so we only use lv 1 and 2 before lv50 because the guides i found says there are multiple exp walls so you dont want to use all your cards.
The guide you found is outdated.
Be sure you do your dungeons and missions (level 100+) and you won't have any problem leveling.
>>
>>154700984
Low-level exp cards won't do shit when your higher leveled. Eat 'em so you stay in range of maps as you progress through quests. Not saying you should use them immediately, just wisely.
>>
>>154700984
Here's what you do, use all the cards you get to reach level 50 as fast as possible. Stay within level range for your maps if possible.

Do the 50 dungeon 2 or 3 times if you have a token. Continue questing for the rest of the time after doing the dungeons. DO NOT use any cards for now. Wait for the daily resets, resets 6am server time. Do the 50 dungeon again, you should be close to level 65 but probably around level 62 from these dungeon runs. Continue questing some more.
This is the part where you can decide to milk the dungeon or not in which case wait for the reset again and do them again.

Quest some more and keep eating cards to stay within level range, you want to hit level 90 as soon as possible so you can do that dungeon. Same deal as before do dungeon and wait for resets while questing after the runs. That'll take you to 100 easily where you can go to fedimian and do daily missions as well.

fyi there are exp resets at level 46 and 86, meaning you'll level very fast once you hit them and then slow down again.

The 50 dungeon can be milked up to level 70 and 90 up to level 110, though I find the sweet spot at around 107 as the exp gained doesn't really do much to your exp bar after that time and you're better off doing rushes and questing with your time.
>>
>>154700154
Best tip regarding leveling: once you reach the lvl 90 dungeon stop using cards until you reach lvl 160. At lvl 100 start doing missions in Fediman. 160-190 is a hell zone for leveling since you can't level in dungeons (160/175 dungeons are awful and never get run, shit xp if you can find a group), has limited grinding spots and few available zones to quest in AND you start running into elite mobs frequently. Try as hard as you can to skip that leveling hellhole and you'll be fine.

Also, always use Aspersion buffs from player shops, they'll reduce damage you take significantly.
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>>154702102
>Continue questing for the rest of the time after doing the dungeons. DO NOT use any cards for now.

Then when? I don't see what level to actually use them from
>>
>>154702659
After you're done milking the level 50 dungeon, this is up to you and whether you want to wait for resets or not.
>>
>>154700612
We are still at 38-42ish and we are still having a hard time killing lv45 mobs but we already finished the lv42 quests.

>>154701093
>>154701102
>>154701376
>>154702102
>>154702413
Will try, thanks guys
>>
>Teammate DCs at start of TBL match
>fuck
>Turns out four people on the other team DC'd

IMC, please...
>>
>>154702413
>once you reach the lvl 90 dungeon stop using cards until you reach lvl 160
What the fuck are you saying?
Stop giving people bad advice.
>>
>>154702659
simple:

dont use cards if you can get 'good exp' from a dungeon
>>
>>154702413
bad advice
just do killcounts, don't save cards. maybe grind and 2nd demons because it's so fast.
>>
>>154703132
Dungeons are dead. Nobody does dungeons anymore.
>>
>>154703431
>>154699238
>>
>>154703572
Stop lying please.
>>
>>154703431
If you and 4 other ppl like you would try.. maybe they wouldn't be dead?
>>
>>154704145
I'm not spending hours waiting in queue.
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>2x2 against Warps' Hunter Cannon
>>
>>154703942
have you tried to queue for anything under 190 lately?
i could only get a group on the weekend, the other times i had to beg people to come with me.
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He's still at it.

Somebody post this on the forums.
>>
>>154704943
No one cares anymore
Especially not IMC

This is the game you play
>>
>>154704617
Don't queue at retarded times and you'll have no problem.
You can always shout too in case.
>>
>>154704943
>>154705016
IMC is slow
keep reporting
they are slow
>>
>>154705040
tell me what the non-retarded times are for under 190 dungeon. 90 is empty, i run it solo every day around 5pm and there's no one there.
130 is rushes, no one queues 145 weekdays.
shouting works sometimes, but there's just no one around in the lower levels.
>>
>>154705215
Stop replying to him, he clearly doesn't play the game
>>
>>154705297
i don't understand why you pretend you're two people, anon. i can see you.
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>>154700113
Sorc
>>
>>154705564
stop posting, Lalaco
>>
>>154706431

migrate
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