/rlg/ - Roguelike General

>>154524679
I would not touch Awoo in heat. I would not give her my dungeon meat.

I would not touch Awoo in bed. I would not pat Awoo on the head.

I would not touch Awoo with a bee. I would not touch Awoo as a tree.

I could not,
would not,
In the lair.

I could not,
would not,
ANYWHERE.

NOT IN A VAULT
SHE WON'T MAKE ME FAULT
NOT INSIDE ZOT
NO I WILL NOT
TOUCH THAT AWOO
LEAVE ME ALONE, SHOO SHOO

>>154524905

I don't know Awoo, but I'm saying to you
that she might be a girl or a cat.
You say 50/50, but I say it's risky,
to say that you want to hit that.

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SHOW US YOUR OC, NIGGER.

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There any new flavors of the month? Even just new noteworthy titles.

Sleep tight /rlg/, the best way to avoid splatting is to avoid playing!

>>154525521
Shadow of the Wyrm got an update. It's fun, but very obviously a work in progress. It does have a win condition at least.

>>154525521
slashem ex

>>154525510
My OC is in the OP.
>>154525521
Demon

>>154526471
OH you got me.

>>154524905
7/10 good at first but bad meter, especially in the last stanza

>>154525521
there were a few anons posting demon and brogue in the last thread

>>154525521
>>154525859
Also Quest for the Unicorn. It works by very different rules than most roguelikes, and is fairly grindy if you don't progress to more dangerous dungeons once you've cleared the previous one, but I've had some fun with it. The worst part about it is that it's very obscure, so there's little documentation about it. I can probably answer any questions about it in ~9 hours, since that's when I'll wake up. Just queue them up and I'll get to them in the morning.

Guide to an ez start:
>pick up any ranged weapon and 'u'se it for ez kills
Ranged weapons in QftU are something like DCSS' wands. They don't need any ammo, they must be "evoked" to attack at range, and you don't even need to hold them to use them. They're also ludicrously powerful at the very beginning, especially if you get one that has okay damage in addition to attacking at range. If necessary, sell your starting healing potions at the pawn shop in the beginning town so you can purchase a spear of spruce. Mages don't need to since they start with a wand of pine.
>for picking enchantments to wear, haste>HP>literally everything
Since monsters can attack and move at the same time, being able to create a gap between you and the monster is very important. Second in importance is being able to withstand the attacks while you run back to the stairs. The stats don't do much until significantly past 20, so don't bother with them.
>"b"lobs are the devil
Seriously, if you see a "b", run away. They are immune to any kind of missile, are highly resistant to melee, and they inflict a DoT effect that is dangerous enough at first, but also stacks, both in duration and damage. I'm convinced that they're a spawn-bug since they give ~600 XP to a level ~8 character in a dungeon meant for level 1s, where the average XP per kill at that level is less than 30.

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I like how the imps are doing absolutely nothing while the frog viciously beats me to death

book acquirement is shit
i've wasted 3 scrolls and got 0 spells i haven't had already

>>154530074
you're supposed to use meme cloud

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>>154530476
Book acquirement is shit, use this chart

>>154530673
Needs to be updated for the misc and staff/ammo acq changes.

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>>154531019

>>154531173
Tru tho.

>>154530673
i pretty much went according to that chart anyways, lol

>>154530673
I got a book of annihilations from acquirement once.

It came 10 levels and 3 branches later than it should have.

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>>154530074
I see now that you're actually a wizard, whoops.

>>154531173
aaw

>>154533716
aawoo

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>>154530673

you don't know what you're talking about

>>154534673
Way to prove him wrong!

I agree with you, but your evidence is as shite as anon's reasoning for thinking book acq is bad is.

>>154530074
red imps only exist as a fuck you to people who cast summon imp at low spellpower

>>154534673
>savescummer acquiring a shit book after 10 realoads somehow proves that book acq is good

>>154534773

I got what I wanted (Spectral weapon, regeneration) in a single try though. If your RNG is bad, you'll get it in a 2nd try.

>>154535125
most people only get a single try because they don't savescum

>>154525329
Awoo is from 2hu.
Awoo no ambiguous.

Awoo is dog.
Awoo is4 awoos.

>>154530673
book aqu always gives me awesome manuals on melee dudes

>>154535125
Yes anon, and anecdotal evidence is shit.
Pointing out the ability to get manuals with 0 spell skills/trog, and the code's chance to drop a good book/unseen spell is a better way of arguing for an acquirement type.

>>154527818
Most Blobs take damage only from bare-handed fighting (unequip your weapon). I found out when trying desperately to kill one

Do you ever get a randomly-generated name that sticks with you?

>>154537307
not really

>>154537307
I bet you use a mouse.

>>154541091
no, O-TAB-C-5 and repeat

>>154542373
>pressing c
>he doesn't know about autobutcher

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>>154543278

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>>154543278

The hell is this? A new trunk commit or something?

>>154543530
could be a new generic pan rune vault

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>>154543530
Holy shit im dying

>>154543530
>atheist
>faith

>>154543717
I hope youre only pretending to be retarded

>>154543530
>can't even disint a 1x1 elbow corridor because the cacos know dig

That's truly terrifying.

>>154543775
>not roleplaying in crawl
>not hurling that shit directly into lava
MEDIOCRE

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>>154535032
>you can savescum online

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>>154525510
I made this the other day when one anon inspired me with a little story

>>154543596

That's no rune vault, that's Gloorx's territory in the first place and these things should never appear there.

>>154543278
>>154543530
WHAT HAPPENED ANON
TELL US

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>>154544517

Got a nice loot. So they were guarding the legendary ?ID

>>154532507
Most excellent, anon.

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Good thing Malign Gateway can still attack out of player's LOS.

>>154546783

every type of summons can do that

>>154547616
Don't player summons stop attacking and start following you if they are outside your LOS?

>>154547874
Yes

>>154537102
Really? I always wielded wands and poked them to death, since it always did a static 1 damage as opposed to the 0 damage most other things did.

>>154543884
If you find some reliable way to crash the game, you can always restart from the moment you entered that floor.

>>154543884
VinniePaz did it

>>154549801
>If you find some reliable way to crash the game,
If you find a reliable way to do this online, the devil's team will see the crash reports spamming their IRC channel and investigate. I'd be surprised if any such bug lasted for more than an hour.

>>154543105
Teach me your secrets, anon.

inb4 read the options guide, it's not there.

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What the fuck

>>154551895
http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e858c24e4ba85a9c12a47e5d7b5ecd3eb305732

(the git.develz.org search box is very useful)

So, anybody have a download link to Vanilla Bagel?

>>154552380
And looking at that commit, it is in the trunk options guide.

Shame. Shame. Shame.

>>154552391
Literally no idea what that is.

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>start a new random game for the hell of it
>get a ring of slow digestion before I even get the chance to pray
>haven't found an altar on D1/2 so I haven't nuked this chance accidentally

ALL OR NOTHING NOW
16 CONDUCTS
ATHEIST TOO
WE'RE DOING THIS MOTHERFUCKERS

>>154552380
>>154552484
Thanks anon. I didn't notice I wasn't using the latest trunk.

>inb4 play online

>>154552647
>inb4 you find a polytrap
I'm rooting for you Sunhorse!
Don't get the "Yev-Ruu" thing though.

>>154552646
A paid russian roguelike. From what I gather is similar to Adom.

>>154552647
Why bother to change your name, we all know there's only one person here who has such a hardon for running every conduct with those terminal colors.

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>>154552735
>inb4 you find a polytrap
I'm searching the traps every two steps, but I don't wanna starve. A good rule of thumb is that in the quest level, EVERYTHING is polytraps.
Worst case scenario I can still do a 15 conduct.
And Yev-ruu is a very obscure reference to CelestiaQuest, a quest that ran on mlpg back in 2013.
https://derpiboo.ru/422446?scope=scpe96827a1e11592d85f5f24442184c0e69e9b8652f

>>154553002
First because I have a different account instead of the old "dynahack" and second because it's an obscure horsereference.

>>154553098
because it's an obscure horsereference
welp, I shouldn't have asked~

Good luck anon

>>154553042
whoa you made it
that was very very terrible luck anon.
have you been cursed?

>>154553042
because dragons are out of depth?

>>154553574
Because he lost like 6 or 7 good runs to polytraps there

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First the hungry ghosts, now a pack of gargoyles. Thank RNG for penetrating bolts and a long, narrow corridor.

>>154553660
S-sorry, that was a reply to his comments ingame. I'm watching him at https://ascension.run/hterm/, but the on-server message system doesn't work with Dynahack so I have to use this thread.

Were there any must have skills in infra arcana besides observant?

Also, what's with all the enemies that can't be shot or meleed?

>>154553729
>But the on-server message system doesn't work with Dynahack
Oh yeah I asked some of the dank ninja dudes about it like a year ago. Apparently it never made it into dyna's code.

>>154553862
try throwing knives at them

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YEAH WELL
POLYSELFLESS IS A SHITTY CONDUCT ANYWAY

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>>154554017
You did your best!
I'm sorry, anon.

>>154554046
15 conducts is still in tune with /rlg/'s 15 runes anyway
I'll keep going

>>154553938
There are like 3 more enemies that do this and I doubt knives work on them

>>154553679
When I tried to play older versions, the minimap colors were one of the things I couldn't get used to the most. I can't see anything meaningful there except for corridor outlines.

>>154554108
stop while you're ahead
that silver saber is max scary

>>154554397
Have the colors even changed at all?

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>>154554507
quite a lot

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So the gameplay of Summoners is basically to get haste+raise your survivability/get more escape spells?

>>154554108
Dunno. Probably not.

To the thread at large: do cockatrice corpses count as wielded weapons in Dynahack?

>>154554108
night

>>154554046
wow I lurk in Trump general threads almost every day since a little bit after the first debate and I've never seen that one

Anything relatively neat and new in Cata DDA besides Scurvy Simulator 2000?

>>154555775
No

>>154534673
Yes, it is entirely possible for book acquirement to be nice and give you something useful. That doesn't mean it's good

>>154559575

Book acq is especially good and is actually a must for casters especially those not worshipping Sif because casters tend to have a wide range of spellset. There may be a lot of book types in this game that makes it unattractive but it's not like everything you'll need from early to postend only consists of 10 or so books. That's when conserving ?acq until you allocate some exp on your preferred schools become relevant.

In short, the one who made that chart is a retart (not again)

>>154560104
minmay made that chart and he has a whole post explaining how acquirement mechanics work and what the chance of getting a particular item with a certain type of acquirement is

What's better /rlg/, a +5 quarterstaff of chaos or a +1 lajatang of venom?

It's for a FoFi^Ru

>>154560469
Quarterstaff.

>>154560372
how many versions ago was that

>>154560469
+3 enchantment is roughly equivalent to +1 base damage, due to how skills work, do your own math

chaos is probably a better brand than venom depending on where you are in the game

>>154560469
Lajatang

Quarterstaff is both an inferior base type and brand, and you don't even have the issue of extra training like you would on other weapons

>>154560469
Lajatang unless you enjoy berserk ogres

>>154560578
None, it was literally made a few months ago. It could only be out of date with trunk

>>154560372

Your muh % code horseshit never matter when we're talking about gameplay and in this case, caster gameplay.

Casters tend to have a wide range of spellset and that alone makes book acq a must. There may be some exceptions like Enchanters needing to train weapons and especially 3 runing with a non-DE (and even then, 0/-1 apt mages could usually get 3 level 9 spells from 3 separate schools at 1-4% by Depth:5)

>>154560551
>>154560578
>>154560586
>>154560684
Thanks, even though I'm getting mixed messages here.

>>154560469
depends on your current polearms skill

>>154560962
they're fucking idiots, the lajatang is better in almost every way.

>>154560874
Okay anon, your word is law. I'm sure glad I had this conversation

>>154560962
Don't listen to this retard, >>154561221 unless you have mindelay the Quarterstaff will outdamage the Lajatang every time except mayyyybe against poison-weak enemies like bugs.

>>154561331
Lajatangs need the exact same amount of training to get to mindelay as a quarterstaff you idiot, that's the whole gimmick

>>154561409
>>154560962
that guy's fucking with you for some reason, lajatangs are very close in base delay and 6 points of base damage higher
like don't be confused, this isn't a debate, it's just someone failing to bait you

>>154561496
I'm guessing you meant to quote >>154561331

>>154561554
yes, thanks

>>154561230

>I only need a single book when playing casters so book ?acq is bad

As long as you understand that this is retarded as fuck

>>154561872
You should try a low sodium diet

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I died to the fucking Wizards in ToME 4.
God fucking dammit.
Fuckers stunned and diseased me through huge resists.
Fuck.

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>>154562010
GIT'r done

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Spider form is such a good meme, I'm wondering if I should go unarmed

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Show's starting.

>>154560372
>minmay made that chart
And minmay was wrong when he posted that chart.

minmay isn't actually good at the game, he just complains a lot.

>>154567062
>a ring called xxx named xxx
???

>>154567085
That depends on what you consider "good at the game" since minmay has an almost 5% winrate and is a greaterplayer

>>154567521

>implying you can't be a grind monkey to get """"""""""""greater""""""""""""player
>sub 10% win """""""rate"""""""

Shitter status: check

>>154568939
While I think that quoting minmay in a discussion of crawl is fucking retarded because the guy is an ape, any player above 2% win rate is considerably better than average and any greaterplayer is guaranteed to have a lot of experience with the game.

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I'ts super effective!
Your general looks healthier!

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1 (one) captain wielding 1 (one) cockatrice corpse with 1 (one) amulet of life saving!
What are the odds?

I absolutely cannot find Jharod anywhere.
I've searched all over the 3rd, 4th, and 5th floors. Absolutely nothing. Is there any way I can narrow down my options?

>>154568939
If you have a winrate over 10% and are a greaterplayer in the same account without having explictly made that account for that purpose, you're literally one of the best currently active crawl players, which you most likely aren't

Hell, even the winrate over 10% over more than a few hundred games would put you in the top 5% or so, at minimum

>>154570173
Saw your RIP in the irc
So yeah
RIP

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I'm not sure what happened as it looks like erolcha just saw me and banished me the same turn

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>>154572168
Full log for any potential skeptics

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>>154567062
>see this
>>154570173
>then see this
>tfw I was in class and missed it

>>154572168
It happens. One time i got instantly confused by Sigmund on the turn i saw him.

>>154572168
That _ to the left of the message is the break between turns.
Great mechanic isn't it?

>playing stone soup in 2016
kek

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I'm looking at the Soul Armour cost for melding with the Wisp, is it really as good as the price suggests?

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>>154572389
You missed 18 K turns of pure grind.

I had 7 wands of death, 21 potions of gain level and 30 potions of full healing.

>>154572728
I can tell you that it's really overpriced. Does that help?

>>154573061
God I hate GYBE so much.
All that nice music and they ruin it with their horrible ineptitude at choosing samples.

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Which of these would be better for a troll monk that already has cold resist++? How good is spirit shield really?

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>>154573307
>All that nice music and they ruin it with their horrible ineptitude at choosing samples.
what do you mean

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>>154573307
>Does that help?
Yes, but just how stingy should I be with my credits?

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New poschengband version: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=7970

Doesn't seem particularly exciting, though they finally fixed the rune knight gold exploits.

>>154573495
Spirit Shield is like +[value of MP] HP. It's really good on Vinestalkers, where it's +[value of MP] HP that you can restore almost instantly with the right build, but it's probably only OK on Trolls. God help you if you require MP for your escapes though.

>>154573890
Kind of, I am worshiping Ru and his blink costs 5 mana.

>>154573694
>OK, it was a bit too easy to win with devices, so I made Rockets come slightly later and have higher casting costs. Tiamat got a new reward to celebrate this change.
That's pretty shitty.

>Confusing Lights has been toned down. Seriously, that was crazy before
>Jewelry drops from dungeon guardians, quest rewards and DROP_GREAT are no longer insulting in the early game. For example, one of my players got a Barbarian Talisman with -2 Int and nothing else! No more!!
>no_wilderness: Playing with this option means you forgo stat gains from dungeon guardians. To compensate, you will gain a chosen stat for each random quest completed (i.e. DL6, DL12, DL24 etc quests in Angband)
These seem good though.

>>154567521
Point taken.

Rephrasing: minmay isn't as good at the game as his posting style implies. His analysis often glosses over important subtleties in ways that suggest rather than choosing not to highlight them, he simply didn't see them.

It would sure be nice if mikee still posted.

>>154574914
It would sure be nice if one could opt out of reading the tavern.

>>154575027
Sadly, it's better conversation than nurlg.

>>154575210
You're right. twelwe is a miracle of the universe.

>The only thing mummies are non-shit at is necromancy
>They even get a power boost for necro spells at XL 13
>Cannot cast half the spells, or any of the good ones

It's hard to imagine worse design than some of the shit in this game.

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I did it m'ladies

>>154573694
>though they finally fixed the rune knight gold exploits.
Finally, I don't have an excuse to play PCB anymore.
Thank you Chris.

>>154569975
nice dude
who is that refreshing semen demon

>>154565151
Me too

>>154553679
>Gargoyles used to look fucking awesome

It makes me mad. Same as how crocodiles in reality are far more dangerous than alligators, but the opposite is true in crawl.

>>154561872
it's true though?
unless you play wizard your starting book can keep you going for a real long time

>>154567247
>"called" is what he named the whole item category
so e.g. you could call a puce potion "probably booze", and then all future puce potions would be "a potion called probably booze".
Or you could name your throwing daggers "ffffuck cockatrices", and those daggers specifically would keep the name but future daggers would still just be unnamed daggers

>>154577346
B-but whizzurds are super versatile...

>>154567247
like if you found an animal called a cat but then give it a name specific to that particular cat, like "HORSEFUCKER"

>>154577346

UmMMmMmmmmmmM?????? Have You even played the gamee?????

>>154576824
Seems like an original character from DeviantArt.

>>154577693
they are
their book has a lot of good spells

but no spells you can rely on forever, so if you don't find a new book you'll have to train the dreaded ~~~melee weapon skills~~~

>>154572458

bec. u don't have a single crawl win in 2016 LOL

>>154577004
My wife's son too.

>>154571247

>more winrate = more skilled

Except that's completely false. If you have more winrate, then you have more winrate; nothing more nothing less.

>>154579335
it's roughly true for hyper accounts

it's funny bec. crawl doesn't require any skill at all LOL

Can I get a few (You)s? My @ died today.

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@154577693
@154577871
@154578096
@154578325
@154580246
@154580264

Good stuff.

>>154580519
u no skil noob i bet u have 50% win """""rate""""""""""" it dosn't meen anything lol any1 can git dat haha fuk noob

>>154581261

i bet ur irl tummy is bloat too bad you can't remove it LOL

>>154581836
bloated with my cum maybe

>>154582000
>with my cum
Can i bloat it with my delicious cum?

>tummies bloated with semen
you're taking it too far lads

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ROGUE
FUCKING
LIKES

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>You must sacrifice ALL your piety with your chosen god to enter this trove
>Ru hasn't even demanded a sacrifice from me yet

Hahahahahaha

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>>154583456

please send help, whenever I get good loot I get nervous and fault to the max.

Is that ridiculous Glaive worth investing in, seeing as I'm already up to 8 skill with cross-training?

>weeb OP pic
>thread derails to shitposting in only a few hundred posts

I'm honestly not surprised.

>>154584018
?

>>154570786
he's usually on 4th floor. either you missed him or he's dead

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>>154584385

>>154584848
Yes, that is definitely worth investing in.
Get that shit to mindelay my man.

Yred is my child waifu!
Tum tum!
What's wrong with sex with children?

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>>154584392
And then there was that one fag who endlessly bitches about anime on fucking 4chan of all places.
Gentlemen, we have a full house.

>>154585267
fucking sjws trying to infringe my amendments

if you cum in a tum the police will send MEN WITH GUNS to PUT YOU IN A CAGE even tho u didnt even do anything violent

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>>154585095
I AM THE GOD OF WAR

>>154585519
I want to park my bike between those cheeks

what about a roguelike where you have to kill horses with your bare hands?

>>154585981
i'd dig it

Red-pill me on shields vs 2handed weapons /rlg/

really kind of torn. I'm sure it's context dependant but in any case I should be able to level shields and my weapon skill all the way anyway right?

>>154586226
it shouldn't be that hard to code
>steal generic rl engine
>add horses

i'm too retard to code tho

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Should I commutation-swap anything?
I'm tempted to get rid of my Staff of Firebolt and gain fire-neutralizing mega-regen, or a war hammer of cranial destruction

>>154586410
get in touch with the autist from last thread that wants to make an official /rlg/ roguelike

>>154552647
Can I have your rc please?

>Post yfw you realize hell hogs aren't resistant to fire

>>154586568
Chain mail -> warhammer, maybe? Not like the +1 on your acid jelly armor matters and that's the only thing you can swap it to. I never use those things unless I have an enchanted weapon or something I'm not using so probably not the best advice.

>>154586329
no you should not level weapon skill to 27 ever

get it your weapon to minimum delay and then stop (the game tells you what the skill requirement for this is)

with shields at first you will just train them high enough to remove the penalties but eventually you can raise the skill higher for better defenses

the 15 shield skill and 16 lblade for a medium shield + 2sword is way cheaper xp-wise than 24 skill for a 3sword, which is one of the advantages of 1h

>>154586568
I'm on D15, if that helps.
(Seriously considering swapping the Staff of Firebolt with Regen or Teleportation, since that'd leave it intact)

>>154586950
Not too bad, it would basically be a free enchant. I'm not entirely sold though, I feel like too much stuff in the later depths is resistant to fire and/or fireball-throwing so regen would help...

>>154586640
Rc? Nah man dyna works differently
It's got menus and sub menus and shit

>>154587113
Grab that +9 tleport charm.

At +10 it recharges in one turn. You become literally unkillable.

>>154587515
it would only be +7 though since [2/2] staves are +0

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stop hitting yourself. stop hitting yourself.

>>154584683
http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Treasure_trove

>>154587597
wait nvm i'm wrong staves just disappear if you take them below +2

>>154587713
I know what a trove is but some actually ask for your piety? I didnt know that

>>154587807
It's hilarious if you are worshipping uskayaw.

Too bad uskayaw is mediocre.

>>154587971
take that back

>>154587971
are usk and hep in trunk?

>>154587713
>Scrolls (20% chance overall): It will ask for 4 to 6 scrolls of blinking, 10+1d3+1d4 scrolls of teleportation, 12+3d4 scrolls of identify, or 1 to 2 scrolls of acquirement.
This is wrong, it asked me for 3 scrolls of acquirement long time ago in 0.17 or so

>>154588043
Mediocre doesn't mean bad, it's extremely fun and one of my favourite gods, but don't delude yourself in thinking usk is objectively better than most of the other gods

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It's all over, baby. FUCK consumables. My only regret is no easy way to get the slime rune without digging.

>>154587807
Added in 0.16. I bet it'll get removed sooner or later just to prevent those like myself from benefiting.

>>154587741
Ow, thanks for pointing that out, I'd have hated to lose that Staff. So should I descend to find a scroll of enchant, use it on the charm, and climb back to swap?
Or go with the +9 Warhammer? How much damage does that thing even DEAL? Wiki says it has a whopping 50% hit chance on tentacle horrors.
Or maybe keep it simple and just buff that hammer to +1 and keep the rest of my stuff...

>>154588306
you could switch to jiyva

>>154588704
(Wait, nvm, I can't go with the war hammer, that'd break my staff. First option is it, then. Hope I don't starve to death.)

I'm an o-tabber with a Glaive that isn't going to cast anything anytime soon.

D gives me 17 ac 19 ev, U 20 and 19.

How big is the impact of slay -2 on something as slow as a glaive?

So is it a super idea to quaff 4 potions of mutation as an ogre? It's not like I can lose slots, and some auxiliary attacks would be great.

>>154588306
Better start training dat LRD

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So gg can't go to temple untill i find a wand of digging?

>>154589437
No. You see how there's a down staircase there? On the floor below, one of the up stairs will go there.

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>>154589360
o-tabbing really does make one stupid

>>154589437
you can probably reach it from an upstair on D:6

>>154589360
-slay on melee is very very bad
>>154589437
Take an upstairs from the lower floor

>>154589526
>>154589502
>>154589483
oh wow geez im dumb, thanks

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Don't even have blade hands or ice form yet, dodging is shit and i'm already at lair. What do? Should I go do a few more levels of dungeon and try to gete blade hands/ice form? Or more dodging?

I think i fucked up.

>>154589502
-Slay is always big no matter what the number is and i always try not to wear any equipment having -Slay in it

>>154590661
Yeah you don't need that much UC, should have got more dodge.

I hope you worshipping chei.

>>154590774
mahkleb. So should I just cross my fingers and turn dodging on? Or should I cross my fingers and get blade hands from 34% to 20%

>>154590661
Yes you did lmao
>2 spellcasting

>>154589526
>>154590730
cheers, I was under the impression that it mattered a lot more for quick weapons, so -slay on something like a bardiche wouldn't make a noticeable impact.
I died to Maud wielding a venom Demon Trident anyways lmao

>>154590830
34% isn't bad, as long as you cast it out of LOS and don't miscast badly.

>>154590892
OWNFAULT

an anon some threads ago mentioned something about an IVAN update, I'm hype as fuck

any news about when this is going to come out?

>>154591028
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=2016_ARRP

>>154591015
fault as fuck, getting overconfident is the worst mistake one can make

>>154591205
thanks, looking forward to it

>>154590831
is this a thing? I was always told that spellcasting was not important to Tm, it just effects hunger and mana cost right?

>>154590892
>retard tablords dying to Maud melee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A

>>154589387
but instead you will get zerkitis teleportitis and blurry vision

Did beogh always need 3 piety to gain followers? I haven't played in a while and it feels like I'm getting fucked up.

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>on a sick run
>save game and go do real life stuff
>come back excited to continue the good run
>die within a floor

EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>154591371
spellcasting affects hunger and mana but it's also worth 1/4th as much as transmutation skill for actuall spell success/power
so generally you should train it when its cost to level is 1/4th as much as tmut's, or half as much for 2-school spells

>>154592193
Start a new character each time you come back as a warmup. Then once that character dies, go play your promising run.

>>154592514
this is actually a good idea

splat hard on a shit character just to get it out of the way

>>154592514
what if i have to do some real life stuff while playing with the warmup character?

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>>154588939
I ended up finding a Staff of Lighting and swapping it with the Staff of Firebolt.
>Nothing is immune
That's wrong. The food clock is.

>>154592514

Ha, that sounds like the ol' "rolling the 1s out of the d20" trick.

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>Ru is balanced

O am I laffin

I don't know what's better, the "instant free heal wounds" ability, or the "free controlled blink" ability, or the "fuck everyone up the ass" ability, or the fact that NONE of it takes invocations skill.

>>154593641
or the free hit yourself aura

>>154593260
if you enchanted the regen ring you'd be able to survive starvation
all it does is damage you each turn AFAIK

>>154594132
I don't think it does because starvation disables your natural regen. Health charm should work though I don't know how much you'd need to enchant it to recharge faster than you die.

>>154593396
You might get more cautious after a fault, though

>>154593641
He's kind of weird in terms of flavour, isn't he?
Why'd a god of nothing/void/atheism/entropy give abilities to jump?

>>154595060
>god of atheism
ayy

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>>154595439
Well he opposed all creation, so I just assume he opposes existance itself, and therefore he's against gods (and himself) existing. I viewed it kind of like that.

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>>154590774
>>154590661
>>154590831
>>154590935
well somehow still alive in lair 3. So Is this looking better now?

>>154595896
and here I thought Trog was metal

>>154595896
opposing creating means he and the other gods already existed, so he doesn't oppose his own existence
i think ru just wants to hang out in a divine null

>>154595896
That would be antitheism, you fucking retard.

>>154596094

Trog is thrash/speed metal.

Ru is black metal.

>>154596793
Usk - anime osts?

>>154596793
Ru is drone.

>>154597167
lowercase / drone, yeah
>>154597098
lolicore exclusively

>>154597098
okawaru is the shitty country that gets played on the radio
pakellas rip is weird experimental alt-rock
nemelex is the yugioh opening on repeat

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>>154597203
Gonna make an usk char now.

>>154597254
You know too little about music to say anything interesting here.

>>154597203
You know too /mu/ch about music to say anything interesting here.

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>>154597254
>yugioh opening on repeat
oh jesus christ
>>154597402
godspeed little anime girl

>>154597167
>dude sunn o)) lmao
fuck off, ru is dark ambient

>>154597632
I said drone, not drone metal.

>>154597558
what about that new kanye single

>>154597558
let the kids play too, new opinions are fun

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>>154597558
>scorning elitists
>on /rlg/
Roguelikes are one of the most elitist and pretentious game genres though.

>>154598136
so roguelikes truly are the dark souls of genres..

>>154598136
>pretentious
I don't think many roguelike pretend to be more than they are.

>>154598228
but dark souls is a roguelike

>>154598335
It's pretty much the absolute opposite.

Is Caves of Qud a decent game for someone new to roguelikes? I wanted a roguelike I could sink my teeth into while listening to chill music.

>>154598507

Yes, yes it is.

>>154598507
It's not a completed game, but I have had fun with it. I like a lot of the mutations you can begin with.

>>154598449
thanks, i didn't actually expect to get anyone

Also, I gotta mention that Caves of Qud has some odd memory issues. I don't recall exactly what it is called (clairvoyance?), but that one ability that is like a sight of the future apparently doubles the memory size of a game. This can lead to your computer to becoming a toaster if it's not a great one.

>>154598507
Of all the beginner-friendly roguelikes, it's probably the least brutal, since (from what I know) the stakes aren't always life or death (like in Brogue, IA, Hoplite, etc etc)

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What music do you listen while tabbing your way through the RNG domains?

pic related

>>154598740

>not a completed game

True, but at least it gets updated every week (the paid version at least) unlike so many other games in Early Access.

>>154599060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqvT-4Ett0E

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>>154599060

I like Black Widow when playing Caves of Qud or PosChengband.

>>154599060
Can discography and Lonnie Smith discography

>>154599031
Yeah, man. Even OoD enemies that can be encountered early on are usually easy to deal with and can be walked away from, more often than not. Food management and usually water management are also not that hard to deal with, especially because corpses never rot away, and most of them are edible.

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>>154599060
Music is bloat, I prefer silence and Hebst 9, Hana Sumai, Zero Kama, Bloody Vomit Bukkake, Billmazter and Lolishit.

>>154599096
>paying
>for roguelikes

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>>154599060
Dire Straits and random vidya tracks only I mainly care about.

>>154599572
Especially an incomplete one, although I like the aesthetic of CoQ's tiles for all I have seen and there's that one reputation system that doesn't seem to be in the free version at all. I'd really like to see how the latter works for maximum dickery.

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Should I burn a ?blink to get in there? I hate eels so much

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Now what do I do with this fat ogre fuck?

OgFi if it matters

>>154600016
B L O W G U N S
L
O
W
M
E

>>154600016
Nigga you have a blowgun, just get back and give them a pop or two with only 1 eel visible.

>obsidian axe from scroll of acquirement

y-you too

>>154600210
>>154600291
I remembered sneks can kill stuff even outside of LoS so I did that

That said, am I back in 2015 for untrained blowguns to not be shit anymore

>>154600332
>4 orbs of fire come into view.
>Visions of slaying the orb of fire flood into your mind. You cannot move away from the orb of fire!

>>154600332
WIELD IT
USE IT
LOVE IT
POUND the tum tum

>>154600442
I haven't even gone into Lair yet lmao

ez runes ez lyfe

>>154600423
Eels are like tiny babies, even new 0-skill blowies can pop them.

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>>154600442
>Maud comes into view
>Visions of slaying Maud flood your mind

oh shit here we go

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HELP

>>154600063
Train dodging you vegetable

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>going through previous threads for advice on building vinestalkers
>find this
>have a fetish for girls with big eyes and bigger teeth
I didn't come here to fap, but I'm certainly tempted to.

>>154601159
What's in your inventory?

>>154599060
Chill electronic music.

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>>154601159
>>154601332
just kidding i'm prepared

>>154599572
>not pirating

>>154597098
Usk is Osu! at max difficulty.

>>154601795
You can do it, anon!

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Had to go through tartarus a dozen times before actually cleaing T:7, but i was never in a bad situation. I'm finally having fun blasting everything, it only took ten hours of pain to get here

While i might not be able to worship chei, i'm doing my best to follow his will and take it the fuck easy

>>154602189
The game ends after 20 million turns, don't take too long now

what if there were a roguelike about being a policeman in London called Baton Rogue

>>154602245
It only took me 10 days, i still have almost 4 years before that happens

>>154602292
Sounds fun. Start coding, anon.

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>>154602037
yeah i just need to get past TWO FUCKING DRAGONS
but i'll try

>>154601124
i just did, it was nice. Then a hydra came outta no where and died to my iceform

>>154602292
What if there was a CDDA-style roguelike about suriving in polpotian cambodia called Khmer Rogue?

>>154599572

>giving a fuck

>>154602292

I wish I could make one set in a ringworld or a Dyson sphere. Not enough good sci-fi roguelikes out there.

>>154602551
That's three.

>>154602657
Yeah, because paying 15 bucks for a roguelike is retarded as fuck.
Yes, i'm talking about that fucking awful overpriced cogmind and its disgusting pathetic dev

Let's assume the Devil's team has decided that Demigods are flavorless and uninteresting. They talk it over, and a consensus is reached: they're going to remove them. Except, you happen to be there, and you make a persuasive argument for improving them, rather than removing them. Shockingly, they agree. However, they're not quite sure how to do it; they've been removing things for so long that when it comes time to improve something they're not sure where to begin.

They ask you for suggestions, since you brought up the issue in the first place; what's your big idea?

Well, anon? How would you improve Demigods?

>>154603105
It's a shame, it's actually a little fun.

>>154603105
What's the dev done, besides overpricing the game?

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>>154602836
i fucked up and the lich's furies finished me off anyway. should have used discord or descent on the bastard at my first opportunity, but i was saving it for the dragons.

maybe next time.

>>154603153
Random one-time lineage mutation a-là draconians. Happens at lvl13, has a 15/20% chance not to trigger leaving them like powered-up humans, but otherwise they get changes based on the god they descend from

>>154603153
just meld them and chaos knights together, regular maybe slightly toned down stat gain but must worship Xom and can't abandon him

>>154603321
Ouch. Get a better weapon next time.

>>154603321
what game is this?

>>154603493
Brogue, you nigger.

>>154603193
Yeah, but selling an alpha at 30 bucks is the most jewish thing that ever happened to the roguelike community.

>>154603321
F

>>154603623
I think they felt they could do it because the game was actually decent. If they'd charged like 5 dollars I think it would have gotten a lot less grumbling.

>>154603105

I really don't care. I paid 10 bucks for Qud because I want more variety in roguelikes.

Also, every update adds flavor and if something is removed at least the developer doesn't say "because it was bloat".

I can understand the Cogmind debacle, though, but Caves of Qud is no Cogmind, I can tell you that.

>>154603623
see
>>154601878

>>154603623

Then don't fucking buy it, goddamn.

Speaking of buying Roguelikes, has anyone seen the new One Way Heroics that got released today? I haven't seen anything on it until it showed up in new releases today, but I've played the original and I liked it.

This looks like more of the same, which is probably a good thing. And also something about multiplayer? Worth the $9?

>>154603623
>the most jewish thing that ever happened to the roguelike community.
That would be Biskup, and the second place taken by Caves of Qud.