/domg/ - Dominions General

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First for legacy memes
>>154514364

>>154514501
Oh man I remember this meme. Takes me back.

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>reposting in new thread
Update for anyone interested in the happenings of Nagot_gick_fel

Basically tl;dr is Bats chose to raid me instead of defending (you can turtle in your cap and stack massive amounts of freespawn beast bats, fyi)

I mean it's annoying I guess, but every Xibalba player I've seen that gets attacked sits in their cap and then explodes out with hundreds of beast bats and is back in the game, if you don't want to try it this time if you try Bats in another EA game it actually works pretty well. Get those Onaqui out and take a B9 for the bats my boy, it's srs

>>154514364
>being such a shitter that you need to take measures to deal with emails from people who don't want to put up with your shit

>>154514935
More important happenings are that I, the mighty leader of the realm of Therodos, am now murdering the poor Atlantian scum. Sadly they tried to commit a most heinous crime - having provinces I wanted, i.e. literally the entire ocean - and had to be dealt with. Luckily for everyone else, I don't particularly want to leave the water more than I really have to so I get to focus on the poor fishpeoples.

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>>154514364
I'm glad you took the time to fix your email filter, in the same amount of time you took to do that you could have done your turn

>>154514935
Raiding is literally the best thing bats can do, actually. They can foreign-rec raiding parties as well. Sitting in your cap with 1000 beast bats can keep you from being eliminated more quickly, but will never actually win you a game.

>complains about turn resends
>wastes time memeing about it
>doesn't send his turn
Ladies and gentlemen: a typical normalfag.

>>154515228
Naw man, you get enough beast bats to re-expand. You don't sit there with 1000 at all

Raiding around while you lose every real province you have is wayyyy worse than consolidating for a big explosion of bat fuckery, and no one can get rid of you with that shit either, really. It almost forces a domkill

>>154514984

>taking a turn within 30 minutes of seeing it

vs

> spamming resends 9 hours after it hosts

Sorry you're so bootyblasted that your favorite toy got taken away.

Since apparently people were actually reading it, I've once more updated my blog detailing the Dominions D&D campaign.

https://cruxador.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/some-things-happened/

>>154516036
>could do his turn
>continues complaining about people who prefer to actually play the game

Have you considered creating some kind of stalers-only blitz? It would perhaps suit you better.

>>154516492
>complains about turns not being done
>neglects to check his email, which would show him the turn has been done.

Perhaps you could start a bitch-only pbem, since that seems to be the only part you're good at :^)

>>154515228
Also, he's being attacked by 3 people and an AI, if I recall, it's not a 1v1.

1v1 lots of batfuckery is the right call

>>154516492
>stalers
Literally the only thing I've done that you're mad about is send my turn at 8:40 instead of 8:10 because I memed around for 30 minutes. I hope you know how silly you sound.

>>154516636
>clearly I am one of the people who actually does their turns!
>that's why I'm on maximum damage control over not doing turns!

Staler logic.

>>154517195
What turns did I not do?

>>154517356
You tell me, assuming you even check your email.

>>154514935
They have a B5D5 bless. Anyone got the means to make some waterbreathing items? I can pay in nature gems or gold. Heat 3 is literally the only thing keeping bats pretender/cap alive.

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Ignore the pleas of Therodos and their bullshit supersacreds. Donate for their removal instead.

Thanks in advance.

>>154517523
You're incredibly salty about not being able to send resends, aren't you?

I staled one entire time when my cap was taken six months ago

>>154518035
>I staled

>>154518385
Making 13 guys wait for 5 full hours is considered staling, and you know it.

Does astral shield protect the caster from genjutsus aka mind duels?

>>154518487
I regularly tease my submissives for that long.

>>154518619
No. Phoenix Pyre works against Magic Duels, and so does Elixir of Life or Crystal Heart.

>>154518619
What? No, why would it?

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>>154518035
>>154517523
>>154517356
>>154517195
>>154517053
>>154516636
>>154516492
>>154516036
>>154515538
>>154515192
>>154514984
>>154518487
epic as usual, bob

>>154518619

First it doesnt protect shit: when you strike someone with it, then you have to do a MR check to know if you get paralyzed, but the damage gets in anyway.

And it only works for fucking melee attacks.

So from the description I'm guessing the effect of Quagmire simply gives the battle the same parameters it would have if it were actually taking place on a swamp province. Is this correct? Is there anything else that it does? Would it do anything at all if cast in a battle already taking place in a swamp province?

Also what exactly gets penalized by swamps in battle and what exactly are the effects on those units?

>>154518962
Are there damage returning buffs like that or other magic shields (besides air shield) that also effect magic attacks and/or missiles?

>>154519096
Mind duels aren't even missiles, but even if they were, astral shield only works for melee attacks.

>>154518973
It just increases the Enc of all units fighting, that's it. Makes them tire faster.

>>154518487
>making me wait is staling.
No. Staling is staling. I took 30 minutes from seeing my turn was in to submitting it, and there were still 15/24 hours left on the clock.

Now, if the admin wants to set me AI for that
>staling
He can go right ahead. This would be egregious badminning, but that would also make it not my problem anymore.

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>>154518973
According to the manual, it does this.

I have no clue if that normally applies in all swamps or what.

>>154519228
well that's why i said spells OR missiles and asked about other effects too, but thanks for clarifying that specific situation anyway, I'm always looking for useful strategic info.

>>154519406
for the record I don't care how long it takes you to do your turns, as long as they are done, can't stop others from memeing, and the guy you are talking to isn't the admin

>>154519409
I haven't had much luck with looking up spells in the manual for the purposes of finding information that isn't already told to me in game but the specificity I see there is encouraging, I'll have to look at it even more often than I already do.

>>154519493
Sorry if i was too rude, but that's the price of knowledge.

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>>154520020
I don't give two shits about rudeness as long as I'm learning something that will help me git gud.

>>154517641
I can get you manuals of water breathing in a few turns.

Oceania if you want to sort stuff out reply to this post.

>>154522946
ayyyy fuck you

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>>154519545

Live!

>>154522231
Damage Reversal protects you from any attack unless the enemy passes a MR check. Blood Vengeance will return an equal amount of damage to the one you took, also unless the enemy passes a MR check.

Air Shield is the only "shield" that protects against missiles. Some spells (Bladewind, Nether Darts) are actually missiles, and subject to Air Shield.

So what's the longest running game y'all are in right now? Are there any games with 200+ turns?

If I have a handful of mages firing off nether bolts, how likely is it that they will target enemy mages?

>>154530774
It targets by expected damage, taking likelihood of hitting into account, so very low

>>154530842
So even spells with extra effects only target based on expected damage? Even if that extra effect would be useless against the chosen target? Dang, what about extra effects that continue causing damage over time? Would that be factored into the expected damage or does the initial damage component override everything else for targeting purposes?

>>154531192
Nobody knows. If you keep asking questions like that, they will remove you.

>>154531192
I know for a FACT that thunderstrike targets including the extra AoE damage (ie - it'll ignore 1 square of high hp units in favor of a densely packed square of units). I don't think that effects like Feebleminded are factored in at all.

>>154531324
I mostly meant things that will continue causing damage after the round the spell was cast in, and whether THAT damage would be counted along with the initial hit damage.

>>154530684
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Mistletoe

I think it's looking for a sub, actually.

>>154522946
What sort of sorting out stuff are you talking about?

TDYFLP Sauro, you're a fucken cheeky bastard, aren't you?

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Is this your idea of a fun time Ermor? Trading provinces endlessly?

>>154535084
So, Oceania, about those land forts?

>>154536060
Hey, as long as it works. It's not like I need gold. But you do, so I raid you.

>>154536060
This is what mid-late-game looks like.

Get used to it.

>>154536083
What about 'em?

>>154536440
I might want them . . . . .

Will I need to sail my flames from sky casters over there (because sailing is somehow faster than moving under sea).

>>154536656
Only over my and my 1000 wolf bodies.

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>>154536060
m8

>>154536851
Well shit. Remind me to never get in games with huge maps.

>>154535535
What happened?

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>>154536851
That's a lot of flags.

>>154536440
I'd like to organize a smooth transition of ownership if possible.

>>154536656
What, the entire ocean isn't big enough for you?

>>154519096
Damage Reversal will affect all attacks, but requires the enemy attacking you to fail a MR check. It can be applied with a blood 9 (research) spell.

Flying shield will block missiles, with a 50% chance. It only reduces damage, but it reduces it by 20 which is usually enough against attacks without AP or AN.

Protection or resistance buffs help against many things as well.

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I told you dawg, I told you to tell me what provinces I should steer clear off, why didn't you mention this one?

>>154537272
Wasn't overly important, it had just been attacked that turn and I didn't feel like making a post for a province with random undead in it.

Honestly doesn't matter at all though, you'll see the message ingame when that the next turn starts. You killed like 40 longdead and some random meat, so nothing of value was lost. That was just an little army to walk around and cap the empty provinces with.

Regardless, here's a screencap of what's going on in the general area if you don't have scouts there. Random skeleton stacks around Ermor.

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>>154537625
rip my upload

>>154514935

What, you're trying to give me advice, mate? Don't worry, you won't be winning this game no matter how much you try to manipulate me. If I'm going down, I'm taking my fellow cancer with me.

>>154537812
You think random batches of chaff does anything? Yes I was giving you advice on how to play Xibalba. It involves beast bats and Onaqui.

>>154537625
I've left the province empty anyway, feel free to take it back.

>>154537734
Shit, and here I thought the capital was the final boss.

>>154516036
>1 resend
>spamming

>>154538245
Perhaps the problem is that the person receiving the resends can't tell between one person doing it a dozen times and a dozen people each doing it once.

>>154536997
Excuse me, why must you act like Pelagia doesn't exist?

>>154537812
>D5B5 bless
>As fucking BATS

Please, you could barely give the AI a lesson

>>154538802
Don't you still have the highest province count in the game by a mile? Even with Pelagia you aren't hurting for space.

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>>154537940
There's still a lot of Ermor to go around.

Arco seems to have gotten his shit together, but it still meant Ermor spilled into his lands.

>>154538729
If I see someone as the last person when I check my games I resend once. Just in case they did not notice/forgot. Spamming achieves nothing.

>>154531324
Even single target spells will often do that, to compensate for precision causing misses.

>>154539063
I have 19k gold I have no idea what to do with. I must construct additional forts.

Which requires more land.

Or you could sell me gems/slaves.

>>154539479
I'm Berytos so also have a shitload of gold. I doubt we could do a lot for each other. I'm not really hurting for anything right now. Only thing that's burning my ass is no N1 indies in any of my provinces.

>>154539479
start proxy wars, pay nations 5K each to fight each other

>>154539628
Is fighting on someone else's behalf ever worth it? What you lose in the fighting the gold can't really make up for can it? Unless you take can take a cap with the aid I don't see it being worthwhile.

>>154539831
If the other guy accepts 5k gold to fight you, you should go out and get 5k gold of your own to fight him back. Or, more saliently, if you're going to fight someone anyways, you can try to get paid for doing what you want to / need to do anyways (and then if you don't get paid still do it)

>>154539927
That all kind of makes sense, but I'm no good with diplomacy. I could never get it working out right.

>>154536997
I'm gonna send all the info you need to know next turn.

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>>154540082
Okay, awesome.

>>154539190
>Spamming achieves nothing.
>it clearly started a meme and keeps the thread alive
Au contraire, Anon. Everything working as intended.

>no Oredia game

Get. In. Motherfuckers.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GrandestMemery

>>154540921
>Non-adventure

Missing like the whole fucking point. Also, MA, hmm. So not an auto win for bats.

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>>154540921
>Oeridia non-adventure

>>154540921
Also, for the love of fucking god take off the 300% stuff. The 75% magic sites are fine, but 300% gold just leads to faggots forting literally every single fucking province.

And trust me, that shit ain't fun for anyone.

>>154541146
>>154541137
Fixed

>>154541285
As a nation that just joined but still wants people to have fun, I second that.

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>>154541340
>As a nation that just joined but still wants people to have fun, I second that.
>but still wants people to have fun

Really skellingtons?

>>154541137
>MA
Free win for Ermor instead.

>>154541475
No BoT and shit for me, I swear. Only 999999 late-game skellies.

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>>154541475
I have a bad feeling about this.

>>154541285
Actually, looking at fucking Der Gott .....

yeah, changed that too.

>>154541792
>Gold multiplier 75
>Resources multiplier 75
>Supplies multiplier 300

what the fuck, m7

>>154541508
Where's Modo. We need to get Modo on Ermor.

Or maybe Okofire. Then we'll all be safe.

>>154541939
Even t. Pan won as Ermor once. Nobody's safe.

>>154542070
t. pan? the fuuuuuck.

>>154540921
Newfag here, what's memeworthy about Oredia?

>>154542529
the size and "Adventure" elements

>>154540921
1. Set all settings but site frequency to standard. With very difficult research nations with easy access to lanterns and cheap mages and M3 will get a major advantage over blessrushers and such.

2. Money and resources should be 100, just like supplies. Setting supplies to 300 makes wine and cauldron useless. Supply management is an important part of the game.

3. Add worthy heroes. Like, why would you ever play without worthy heroes?

>>154542529
It's fucking huge.

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but Marignon -appears- to be able to get a strength buff, a prot buff, and most importantly WoS on all of its sacreds with any H1 with no research

>>154542669
Also,

4. If you're setting strength of independents to 9, at least set starting provinces to 3 to offset the inevitable fuckup of some inept people.

>>154542819
it's already at 3 m80

>>154542923
Gr8.

>>154542669
It's fucking Oeridia, very hardest research means wars might actually be fought before everyone hits 9s in everything.

>>154542565
What "adventure" elements?

>>154543248
At least go with hard. Very hard will make it impossible for goddamn caelum to start casting lightning before some faggot rushes them.

>>154543375
Not even. It's Oeridia. It'll take players at least a year or two to find them

Pangaea has not submitted a turn in both iterations of our game - no turn over 48 hours - I detect a staler.


Sub him? Rehost and kick?

>>154540921
Also if you're running summod + Magic Enhanced (>>154541475) use ME 1.1. Even the "summod compatible version" of 1.2 won't work due to 1.2 and summod both being so big that Dom4 fucks itself up running both

>>154543791
ugh, just removing magic enchanced.

This game is going to be like ErmorIsOP, but worse

>>154543938
Just use 1.1 mate. I don't think there's been a huge ME game yet.

>>154543375
Oh, hey, standard research

So, is there any reason not to take Drain 3? I mean, all 9s will likely be hit (especially the important ones) before fighting breaks out anyway.

>>154544119
I said AT LEAST MAKE IT SLOW, NOT VERY SLOW.

So I'm new to Oredia and want to play, what's some general guidelines I should be aware of for this map?

Stuff like "everyone starts with awake pretender for expansion" etc.

>>154544496
Start with a good bless would be my advice. On a huge maps, games last a long time. Generally long enough to get everything you might want even with suboptimal scales, but the one thing you can never get is a better bless. If your nation can't use a bless, just get something like a cheap N9 so you can throw shrouds on your thugs or something.

>>154544496
Make sure your expansion is SPOT ON. You'll have A LOT of territory. Test it until you get like 50 provinces in the first year. I'm not kidding.

When push comes to show (armageddons happen), L3M3 is what you can always rely on. Bloodhunting will be crippled, but gemgens will remain intact. Just food for thought.

Always kill bats.

>>154544716
>Always kill bats.
It's MA. Bats will be the least of his troubles.

>>154544078
Seconding this. I wanna join for MEmery. I've yet to play a single ME MA game, only EA.

>>154537923

It was shit advice tbqh, so no thanks, I'm not going to follow it.

>>154539000

Don't worry C'tis, I'll make sure and try to save some punishment for you too.

>>154544716
>>154544668
Alright thanks. What's a good bless for Mari?

>>154537923
Its awful advice.
Xibalba's thing is that even if they rush you, you can raid the one killing you and drag him down with you.

>>154545674
The best bless for Mari is going AI.

>>154545727
B-But I want to play paladin crusaders. Don't they have thug potential with angel summons?

>>154545841
F9B9 bless, mass flags

>>154545696
He only has chaff warriors you do not understand, I assume he had never played Xibalba before and didn't ask/look anything up because I haven't seen a single beast bat either.

At this point he should have a slowly growing army of annoying as fuck beast bats, but he also took a B5D5 bless for some reason

>>154545841
For angel thugs? N9. For sacreds? Something with B9. Lambert won a blitz with B9 flagellants or something.

>>154546162
Which nations have the best sacreds for massive blood vengeance shittery?

>>154546250
I would say xibalba's beast bats or boarverni.


I played W9B9 Nazca once and won, it was fun.

>>154546354
Yeah B9 on ghosts kind of would fuck over people.

>>154546250
>>154546354
B9 on Nazca for Oredia could actually work.

>>154517742
ME + Summod ends up kinda funky with Thed.

>>154546354
>>154546580
The point of W9 in my build was absurde defense, but they already have enough MR checks without quickness.
I would say go B9F9 fountain of blood. You can get contracts and lots of devils with the B9 spell.

But also F9W9A9 condor nazca seems hilarious and i will do it some day.

>>154546201

Go ahead and explain to me how you would amass a good enough quantity of freespawn beast bats by this point of the game where we're at with the onaqui as they are right now.

Lul, I feel like that replay was bugged or something because what a joke of a clusterfuck that was.

Regardless, actually a funny fight. Made me laugh. The real question is does losing 8 Dusk elders and 7 spectators fuck you enough to make you fuck off the planet

>>154544716
>50 provinces in a year

Is that even possible? Around what year do nations generally meet there?

>>154547491
It's possible with most nations if you use indies and mercs, trace your expansion, and take an awake

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Here's some surprising (not) news, Aspho is joining in to help his skelebuddy.

>>154544716
how do you even fucking get 50 provinces in a year on anything but xibalba?
do you mean if also encircled them?

>>154547829
indies, mercs, awake

>>154547879
Mercs aren't reliable in a game with 20+ nations.

>>154547816
World War : Madden is beginning

May Pankoman have mercy on our souls and smite the soulless husks

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>>154547816
And his bless if anyone is interested. He got 400+ troops right near my capring so my Ermor assaults will have to be put on hold.

>>154548015
>>154547816

Mari and Agartha, any chance you two can stop fucking each other up and cleanse the undead?

>>154547491

I've managed the high 30s as MA Vanheim before, but 50 is probably pushing it.

>>154547816
Serves you right for turning on me after we reached an understanding.

>>154548036
I'll take over family

>>154548081
Mari got bullied into AI by elves sailing. Me and Agatha are mopping up the AI

>>154548535
The understanding was that I didn't want an early war and wasn't gonna press the attack after accidentally killing your prophet many turns ago.

A year passed since then, you don't expect a nation as dependent on population and troops as Man to stand besides Ermor in lategame now , do you?

>>154546201
>>154546874

Hey, mate, I thought you wanted to help me out. Why don't you want to answer my question?

R'lyeh, are you here? We could talk about stuff and so.

>>154548712
Well I paid you the courtesy of not saturating the border with temples so you could have your scales and that wouldn't be a problem. but then YOU BROKE MY HEART

>>154548874
SKELETONS LEAVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>154548851
Also Atlantis, are you here?

>>154548920
I think I'm Atlantis in that game. Want to steam chat?

>>154548970
Yeah, geddin.

>>154548874
Sorry babe, it just wasn't meant to be. Our families can't stand each other, our love is a forbidden one. Perhaps we'll be together in the afterlife.

>>154548874
>Skeletons playing the victim card
I'm sorry did you really chose a cancer nation with cancer scales and expect people to not remove you? You sent in the Ermor pretender you fucking signed up for this kiddo.

Do slingers/units with throwing lances count as "archers" to "Fire at Archers" command ?

>>154549767
Yes.

>>154536890
That's just bats cleaning up before starting to claim the thrones required for victory

>>154547252
Do you have any idea what happened?
In my replay it said your forces had routed and almost all my mages were totally fine but the battle summary inexplicably says I lost the fortress, all of the mages, and my pretender somehow.

>>154551021
This is a thing with Nazca's innate spellcasters.

Dont remember the precise thing, but it's something about the AI sometimes working different in different OS, and llama works with Linux.

>>154551175
Also ironically the time this happened to me, it was me as Nazca against Ermor.

In the replay i lost and my royal mallqui got all destroyed, but in the log I killed most of his stuff and the rest of it routed into oblivion. The right battle is the one in the battle log, the one that happened in the server.

Always decisive fights.

>>154551175
Aint that some shit. Fucking computer nonsense robbing me of my epic battles.
Well it's a little demoralizing to be robbed of my cap and god by a glitch like that but I won't go AI just yet. I fight to the end no matter what!

>>154551410
The glitched one is supposedly the one you can see, the right one is in the log.

>>154551410
It isnt even a glitch, the glitch is showing both of the battles.
Its something about how do OS generate random numbers.

>>154551021
>>154551175
It broke, mine shows your mages routing (which kills them during a fort battle), so that's why they died, but it also showed hardly any of my Supayas dying or routing, but when I got to the actual turn a ton of my forces had routed into the castle, which isn't what I saw

So putting the two together what seems to have happened is a bunch of my shit routed(but not all of it) but not before making your mages rout to their deaths

It's not often that the replays fuck up, but sometimes they do, it probably has to do with immortals and mummifications.

>>154551497
I know, but I base my tactics on what I see in the battles because the log tells me nothing but pure numbers, so the battle that I see is the one where everything I rightly expect to happen with my scripts is happening, and the correct log is just some numbers hiding what is actually happening from me.

>>154551175
On closer inspection, there were none of his innate spellcaster units in the battle. I guess the problem effects other units too?

>>154551662
>>154551642
You killed 3 of my Hurin Priests which made them mummify, that could have messed with it somehow.

But for what its worth, what we saw is the fucked up glitched version which is why it was funny to me because it obviously wasn't right, the outcome is the real outcome from the server

>>154551794
Wait, when the priests mummify, do they continue fighting in the same battle? I thought the mummified versions were out of play until the next turn.

>>154551883
No they die and pop out at my cap the next turn, but I'm just taking guesses on why it fucked up the replays, there's no telling. I was thinking maybe the replays our clients are displaying might be glitched out and counting the Hurin Priests as still alive after their die because they don't actually die permanently or something, but like I said I'm just guessing random bullshit it's probably nothing to do with it and it's just a Linux -> PC fuckup

is there a LOTR nation mod?

>>154552081
I wonder if anyone has a way to get around this. Maybe emulating the Linux version somehow? I want accurate replays dammit!

>>154516189
Darn it, you gave me inspiration
Gonna do something similar
In my changeling campaign I already put some units from dominions in it, like a woodoo priest inadvertly participating in a sabbath and giving his own blood to summon an ozelotl and a businesman haunted by cat horrors after bumping into a hobo illithid in the back of an alley

>>154540921
Are we using adventure or non-adventure version of Oeridia?

Also thirding >>154544078, remove WH and add ME1.1.

>>154553489
>remove WH
kek

>>154553560
Summod + WH + ME1.1 will do the same as Summod + ME1.2, crashing everything at turn 2 and delete the game from Llama, retard.

>>154553635
No, you retard.

Why, though?

F9W9 or D9B9 for Supayas? Former murder everything early game, latter gives extra health to an already ethereal unit and BV against those pesky enemy mages. Biggest issue with D9B9 I see is the damn pretender, getting to D9B9 is gonna cost a lot of scales.

>>154552081
Actually, the Nazca replay bug seems to be because Innate Spellcaster goes off script on Windows machines, but sticks to the script on Linux. This leads to much better casting options on Linux (which Llamaserver runs) whilst replaying the battle on a Windows machine spams AI off-script bullshit.

Also, fun fact, Innate Spellcaster works even if the unit is routing. The repeat casting will keep the unit over 100 fatigue and stop it moving, meaning it will never actually leave the field. I lost a bunch of Mallqui this way, but they held the enemy to the turn limit and caused a hard-wipe of everything in the battle (including the enemy Pretender).

>>154553870
B9 on Supayas keeps them relevant later into the game, but they're already great units so it's really a matter of "do I need this"

>it depends

>>154554016
Well, all of the mages were the living variety, as they dropped in on his cap with flying.

So there were no mummies involved, it was just a glitchy reply that happens occasionally

>>154553759
No-one knows, Llama has email JK to see what is happening. Might be related to the fact the game stops assigning descriptions and magic paths to units after you add too many, but that is just guess work.

At the moment all we can do is not run too many big mods together - ME 1.1 and Summod is fine, but add WH or use ME 1.2 and it fucks up.

How do I figure out what paths my god has? I done forgot.

>>154555425
Check your pretenders in game tools.

>>154514364
I am a newb who started 2 days ago.

How hard is it to play multiplayer? I imagine that experienced players would crush me like a bug if I tried right now...

>>154556006
Sign up for a pbem and play single player to learn what you're trying to even do in the meantime

It's not as bad as you think it is, diplomacy ends up being a big deal when you're with actual players

Just basically start a game and experiment with your starts for the nation that you're playing in the pbem. Try to get as cheap as you can with expansion parties while still having them strong enough to handle 90% of the indie provinces

Abysia 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Fomoria 2h file received
>Hinnom Waiting for 2h file
Kailasa 2h file received
Lanka 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received

Do a double turn for once you giant fgt.

>>154543631
This

>>154556178
I dunno, I probrably should play at least one game with each nation first, to know what im up against...

Which nations do people usually play on multiplayer?

>>154556630
Whatever nation they feel like playing.

>>154556630
It doesnt matter at all, you won't learn playing it more than you will fighting someone playing it.

What i mean is that you, as a newbie, won't realize what a nation can do and get false expectances about them.


In my opinion find a nation you like, try to get used to the mechanics, and then try to aim for 12 provinces on turn 12.
It's a common goal for regular expansions (not great expansion, not messed up expansion).

Also about single player: only play it until you get used to the basics and to train yourself for the 12 provinces on turn 12 thing, other than that is a waste of time since the AI is pretty bad and raising its level will only give them extra gold and stuff instead of making it smarter.

>>154556630
Playing EVERY single nation in singleplayer from start to finish sounds like a huge waste of time IMO, you'd be better off just starting the game with them, reading all about their units and national spells, then repeating. (Or just use the mod inspector) At the end decide on some favorites and play with those.

Just ask questions or check the mod inspector if you want to find out what to do against a particular nation once you're inside a multiplayer game.

>>154556794
>>154556835
Im reading up on every race on the wiki, going to decide which one im going to try out.

Going to sign up for a pbem and play a singleplayer game with the same race to test it.

>>154556630
There's a certain degree of preference towards nations that are particularly strong or that are widely thematically interesting (such as spooky skellingtons) but pretty much all nations see play.

Seeing that there's almost a hundred factions total, trying to play all of them seems like a fool's errand, especially considering many of them can be played in a variety of styles or a way that might not be apparent if you just fire up a game and play the first 20-30 turns. Besides, one of the neat things about PBEM formats is having ample time to research stuff, like what your neighbours are capable of, during the course of the game. You'll likely start encountering other players around turn 5 and wars very rarely start before turn 15 or so. You have a week to prepare, pretty much.

>>154557000
That sounds like the thing you should do, triple digits-san.

Check guides if you manage to find any, but there aren't that much.

Best expansion parties/scripts for LA Abysia expansion phase?

>>154557081
>Check guides if you manage to find any, but there aren't that much.
I found some on steam, they were not very usefull tbqh.

>>154557036
>nations that are particularly strong
Could you list some? I am reading about each on wiki right now.

>>154557151
Most of the veteran population isn't on steam, so that's not surprising.

Desura (if it's still alive) and dom3mods should have better guides.

>>154557228
>EA
Xibalba, Lanka
>MA
Ermor, Pangaea, Sceleria
>LA
Xibalba, Ragha

Evaluating a nation's true strength is a bit difficult because notoriously strong nations are more inclined to be perceived a threat and be ganged up upon (particularly if they are annoying to play against, even more so if they actually aren't strong in early game) and some nations are clearly strong but are more difficult to utilize to their full potential (such as LA Bogarus), the listed nations are universally considered strong and have enjoyed good success despite that fact.

>your commander has befriended some magic beings
>3 lamias appear in that province

Am i the only one that finds this incredibly lewd?

>>154557710
>>154557228
You forgot EA Fomoria, Caelum in general and LA Lemuria.

>>154557710
Oh, and game size is obviously a factor. For example, Vanheim is an absolute beast in early game since they have some of the best expansion in the game, Vanheres are monstrous sacreds and their core battle magic tactics (Thunder Strikes and such like) don't take that long to research. However, their mages are very expensive (inferior research, cannot be fielded in large numbers) and that's pretty much the extent of their tactical and strategical toolkit so Vanheim is prone to running out of gas on larger games.

>>154557710
>Xibalba
Dont see this one in the wiki, has it been recently added?

>>154538245
It was multiple resends within a two minute span, 9 hours after the turn hosted. I suppose it could have been multiple people, but I doubt it.

>>154558169
Use mod inspector instead.

>>154558169
It's one of the nations that was added post-release but it's not exactly recent at this point

>>154558335
Gonna play a game with it, what is a good pretender build for it?

How does Abysia patrol decently enough?

>>154557960
Neither Lemuria nor caelum are universally considered strong, just obnoxious.

>>154558548
Indie militia, human bread, imps

>>154558965
Well, Caelum unquestionably has an absurd power spike around turn 20 when they get Thunder Strike+Storm+Stormpower online, but whether or not this translates to actual wins is questionable (Caelum has average-ish winrates on all ages).

>>154558965
>human bread
Thank you for your input, Hinnom.

>>154556006
Which 3 nations would you like to play the most? I'll give you a build for the strongest one.

>>154559463
Xibalba, Lanka and Formoria.

>>154558965

LA Lemuria is a fairly good contender for Weakest Nation In Game.

They're just excessively good at holding forts.

>>154559329
Doesn't Hinnom canonically get rekt invading Abysia?

>>154559649
otherway around, abysia invaded them

>>154559585
All 3 are top tier.

Fomoria wants a N9(A pretender with nature 9) bless. Sailing giants and air+death magic.

Lanka can be built with N9/B9/W9 and is tricky - turmoil/sloth/luck as far as scales go. Every priest can reanimate undead.

Xibalba has high mobility and shit troops. But awesome blood summons. Swarm tactics the nation early. B9 at a minimum, double bless is highly recommended.

After these 3 summaries which do you like best? Difficulty I'd rate
hardest xibalba
med Lanka
easiest of the 3 Fomoria

>>154560129
Xibalba sure seems interesting, might try it later, going to go with formoria first since it is easier so I will be using that on my first pbem game.

>>154560587
Practice expansion in SP until you can hit 15 provinces by year 2. (early spring y2 when you hover over the season icon at the top). Then you are ready to join.

The most important bit is to have a N9 or N9E4 pretender. Order and growth are awesome to have. Aim for 6-8 dominion. I can give a pretender in maybe 2hrs.

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>that feel when no new turns but you know you won't be able to join new games because of rising demands in RL

Can I get a 3-4 hour extension for this turn? Otherwise when I get home is going to cut too closely to hosting.

>>154561150
Thanks for the help.

>>154560587
Note that Xibalba (EA Xibalba in particular) is arguably the most OP nation in the game, so some people will go to great lengths to remove you as early as possible.

>>154558169
EA Xib works best with a W9 coupled with a D or B9 bless. B makes them hit harder, D lets them last a little bit longer and opens up Theft of the Sun, if you empower your pretender.

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Could I have my pretender deleted? I tested out Marignon and died a little inside.

>>154563003
If you want to play Marignon, you're better off joining a LA game. LA Mari still isn't top-tier, but it's a lot better than MA Mari.

>>154563121
Yes, I'm quite aware of this now. I was hoping national troops would be sufficient to last me until I could get N9 blessed angels, but my expansion tests showed otherwise.

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>>154563217
Knights of the Chalice are fairly competent with the bless that's good for Angels and were buffed in summod (-10 gold).

I think MA Marignon seems workable and playing as Spanish Inquisition is pretty neat thematically.

>>154563778
Yes, but unless you take production, you won't be able to produce them in quantities sufficient for expansion, or much else. They're good, yes, but they'll go down to 3 ichythids and a net without any support.

Game: TheBiggestFattestMeme
Turn number 4
Next turn due: 20:51 GMT on Monday September 12th
>Yomi Waiting for 2h file

Game: Kichikuo_Domg
Turn number 6
Next turn due: 00:47 GMT on Tuesday September 13th
>Bogarus Waiting for 2h file

Game: ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems
Turn number 10
Next turn due: 05:23 GMT on Tuesday September 13th
>Sauromatia Waiting for 2h file

Game: Nagot_gick_fel
Turn number 30
Next turn due: 18:00 GMT on Monday September 12th
>Atlantis Waiting for 2h file

>>154559585
>choosing OP nation on your first multiplayer game

Dude you'll get destroyed even harder than usual because people will fear you and gang up on you early. Especially stuff like bats and skeletons.

Well to be honest that has 50% chance of happening, the other 50% is that everyone will be too afraid of engaging you and you'll end up snowballing to victory.

>>154565382

True story. I'd put money on this being the source of The Ulm Meme.

Scrubs get recommended it a lot, and it's a fairly threatening neighbour that frequently gets attacked. Thus, Staling.

Oy goyim. Anyone interested in some quality DISEASE-B-GONE items?

>>154565526
The true origin of the Ulm meme was a shitter who joined like 6 games as Ulm and then staled in all of them after playing for a month or two. He even posted something about how he couldn't stop joining games as Ulm.

Who is your favorite steamshitter /domg/?

>>154566209
The one who doesn't shitpost on /domg/.

>>154566550
...
Fair enough.

>>154563003
>Can't expand with N9 knights, Pikes, xbows and prod 1.
Thank you for removing yourself, you don't deserve to play the purest nation. Marignon has problems, but expo isn't one of them.

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no pressure shinuyama but you are the last to take your turn on olathe and hosting is in 7~ hours roughly

Game: Olathe
Turn number 12
Next turn due: 23:46 GMT on Monday September 12th
>Shinuyama Waiting for 2h file
Come on now, I'm waiting to see the outcome of an important battle.

>>154540921
If all nations are chosen we end up with 40 provinces per player.

This means no war until year 3 most likely.

If the All ages mode is in you have my interest.

>>154565825

Sure what are you paying t. Pan

>>154568937
>Paying

I'm SELLING, dumb goyim.

>send turns before going to uni at 8:00am
>be all day going to lectures and so
>have lunch in there
>one more lecture in the afternoon
>stay a bit in the library for memes and learning
>go back home at 19:00
>still no turn
>for some reason these guys are busier than me and i'm a NEET
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Kichikuou Bogarus and Olathe Shinu, come on!

>>154569521
isn't NEET literally the opposite of what you are?

>>154569574
What I mean is that "turn stallers" call NEET every person that bullies them to send their turn, because "they are busy hurrdurr can't waste 5 minutes of their time playing a game".

>>154565382
>Dude you'll get destroyed even harder than usual because people will fear you and gang up on you early.
That is ok, I am not going to ragequit the game if I get wrecked in a game.

What is a good pretender build for it? Not sure which scales would work best for it.

>>154569713
They take a long time on purpose because it gives them a feeling of power. I know that kind of person in real life, people who are late on purpose because of that very reason.

They most likely work at McDonalds and are so pathetic they need to try and appear busy even on an anonymous imageboard.

>>154569714
B10S1. Take growth to offset your popkill.

>>154569993
what a bully you are

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>>154560587
Gave a shot at a pretender for Fomoria. It's vulnerable to Magic Duel but if this thing is getting into combat, that would likely be the least of your worries. The other guy might be able to give something else.

I like Magic for Fomoria with your druids and the need to get to Evo 5 asap.

>>154569714
Don't listen to this guy: >>154569993
He is just a bully. magic paths on level 9 unlock special bonuses, but raising it up to 10 does nothing other than waste a lot of pretender points. Also S1 is a horrible memetrap from him, since there is a spell called "Magic duel" that basically makes an astral mage of yours fight an astral mage of the enemy, and only one wins the mental fight (the more astral the more likely to win). For example a S3 regular mage will have a 70% chance of instakilling your god.

Bats works great with W9 and some minors. You could try a toad guy with W9 N4 B4.
That's what I used when I won as them.

But they have a point in that taking a hard nation that everybody hates sounds like a bad idea as a first game.

I would go Fomoria no doubt. They are versatile and have a lot of deep stuff to get used to the game.


Stealthy raiders
Storm + thunder strike
Horde of skeletons+ Rigor mortis + Darkness
Thugs and SCs
Good sacred summons for mid-late game armies

It sounds like a great choice to me.

>>154569521
This. I'm playing through E-mail instead of blitz _exactly_ because I "have a life" and I can't ever dedicate more than 3~ hours in a row to playing video games. I can still however check the internet every 12 hours, once when I wake up in the morning and once when I come home at night.

>>154569714


I also think this is a good idea, give this >>154570268 a try.
(Also usually you test different production levels with expansion, you might need prod 2 or even prod 3 instead of what this anon said)

>>154570268
the N9E4 is nice but I think a N9/D5 dermlich also has it's own merits. The reason being your gonna want someone who can forge a skull hats so your big guys can cast Dance of the morrigans and later break into high D

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What's the deal with WorldPeace? Why are people taking this long to play turn 1?

>>154570752
I'm not really sold on N9 myself. Sure it's good on your raiders and SCs but your N random Fomorian Druids can use a gem to cast regen, and your Kings will have soul vortex and are expensive enough to be worth the ring of regen.

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>>154570268
This looks like a good pretender. Here's a mobile variant if you want your pretender to move around after year 3, once he arrives. If you can hit 15 provs by year 2 reliably you will do well.

>>154561150
>>154562593
I also don't recommend Lanka/Xibalba since you'll have to delve into blood which is micro-intensive and unecessarily complicated for a newbie. Fomoria gives you Death and Air, one of the more potent magic paths and you have big giants which work nicely with a N9 bless.
Sailing is also very trolly and strong - you can attack overseas. So you can attack someone and he won't be able to retaliate.

All that's left is decide on what magic you need to win the game. Your blessed sacreds (Cast blessing on sacred units) should be able to beat anyone to pulp til turn 24-ish. After that you need magic to help you out.

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Turn 5 ghost removal on progress get the fuck out of my UW fucking birds you have the sky u fuckers

>>154570268>>154570519
>>154570651

>I like Magic for Fomoria with your druids and the need to get to Evo 5 asap.
Gonna try this one then.

Should i try to empower my astral after my god gets released to protect from magic duel?

>>154570602
Personally, I really only have time in the evening. Mornings I just about have time to shower and dress. On days when I'm not working or I get up a little early, I take morning turns, but that's not usually the case. I don't really mind having a turn a day, or even every two days for late game so I can think about it or diplo. If I wanted more, I would start or join a 16 hr pbem.

I don't really get why people are so bothered about not having turns on demand. That's just part of playing with different people on different schedules.

>>154571327
S3 on an immobile statue isn't an issue since it won't be in 99% of your battles (it will only be in a battle of an enemy sieging you or a bit battle in which you teleport your monolith in).

I dont think there is the need to empower it at all, just be careful if you are fighting an astral heavy nation with only it as an astral mage.
S1 mage mind dueling a S3 mage is only 24% success ratio, but if they have 10 of them they could kill your monolith safely using only 10 S1 mages and 10 pearls.

Still, if you think that could happen, just sit your monolith at home researching ( it should do this most of the game anyway, as I already said)

>>154571041
N9 is cheap and effective for a giant nation. It allows for some decent scales.

>>154571216
Spells of note: quicken self,Mistform, Soul Vortex, Invulnerability - for self buffing SC's (1-man armies)

Fog Warriors, Mass flight - lategame winning spells

For your A2 Casters: Storm, Storm Power (gives +1 Air magic, but can be cast only during Storm), Thunder Strike - the classic Air magic wombo-combo

Another for your A2 casters: Summon Air Elemental - a size 6 ethereal flying trampler. Hard to kill and gives non-giants a headache. You can cast this with your A2 mages with 2 Air gems.

Utility: Cloud Trapeze - magic phase mocement - this instant teleports you to a province before the army there has a chance to move.

Others: Horde of Skeletons, Darkness, Rigor Mortis - powerful death spells worth looking into, but not your main course

>>154543631
>>154556196
Hear hear

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>>154571216
>Your blessed sacreds (Cast blessing on sacred units) should be able to beat anyone to pulp til turn 24-ish.
Ehh, there are way more threatening sacreds that Fomoria's 1 attack per square dudes. W9 Vanheres and Wot5E would likely crush them.

>>154571327
>Should i try to empower my astral after my god gets released to protect from magic duel?
No, since:
1) You're not likely to have much pearls since you don't have native astral access
2) You have much better things to do with pearls, such as summoning golems and giving them shrouds (which turns them sacred, giving them the benefits of N9)
3)The magic duel weakness of an immobile pretender isn't that relevant, as it's not going to be taking to the field anytime soon unless you teleport it.

>>154572025
I was not saying it's catch all. W9 Vanhere, Wot5E, White Centaurs are the boogeymen of EA. However I don't believe killing off C'tis within the first 2 years would be a problem with this bless. N9 on giants is newbie-friendly, it's a good starting point.

There are better builds, but this one is easy to use for someone new.

>>154571301
I was about to be confused that you won so handily. Then I saw that most of it was just spectral chaff so it makes more sense.

>>154572453
It was turn 4 and now he has like 6 ghosts and his awake ghost king on his cap and no other provinces. He went all in.

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KEK
Squids get out REEEEE

How can you even try to assassinate other players at turn 7 with no gear and no research? Get out of my lands.

>>154572657
quickly, siege his cap before he can do anything else. he's the ermor of EA and if he has that many chaff on turn 4, he's gone full popkill with his dominion. Without FULL POPKILL, you get fuckall spectrals as Thed.

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Well, this was a disaster.

>>154571301
Pls don't remove me, Peglagia-kun.
I just want a nice capring and some castles on the shore.

>>154573484
>>154572657
Note, this also means he'll have very, very few sacreds. Right now, before he can expand and get more income, he's by far at his most vulnerable. All he has is some spectral chaff and a very small number of sacreds. Plus the Melia and Ephor are his two starting units so one of those was his prophet which might be what you just killed.

>>154546162
>F9
This is pointless, F4 at most.

>>154547816
It's a repeat of MAmemes

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To those complaining of too few new turns; I have too many, and usually don't even open them until the 12h reminder. I picked up Dominions during a tough personal time, and tried to fill up most of my free time with it. Now, I'm starting to think it might be nice to have other hobbies and to go out and socialize.

Any interested subs? I think KingofBullies, Balance_of_Terror, and Der_Gotterdammerung are the only turns I still get excited about.

>>154575104
They have low attack but superb attack density (flails have two attacks), F9 is by no means a poor choice.

S9F9B9 using the flaming skull is my current go-to for MA Marignon in summod, second turn pillaging cap with high inquisitor gives an amazing expansion army.

>>154575238
The wheel has turned once again.

Arco, get your ratchet ass back in here and stop being a bitch.

It's only a little bit of cancer.

>>154575601
Why are you pillaging cap and not a useless province?

>>154546226
F9B9S9 flags, two other blitzes died whilst doing well with said bless (Okofire may have been salty about the hundreds of flags.)

>>154575307
How is esoteric going?

>>154576025
Not that guy but I think it's because flagellant recruitment is based on dominion and the presence of a temple. Cap would be the best spot to recruit them that early in the game.

>>154576147
I rushed Caelum, then Ermor attacked Ulm, so I attacked Ermor, then Niefel attacked me, I've been on the defensive, but Hinnom is attacking Niefel. It's a classic world war.

>>154570268
Just played with this setup, rushed the 3 thrones before I had any decent fights against the AI.

>>154556794
I managed to get 10 provinces by turn 12, but 2 of them were thrones I claimed and started building fortresses on, is this any good?

>>154576025
Turn 2.

Also as the other guy said, it's proportional to dominion, having a temple, etc, so you get at least a bakers dozen which with tribless is enough.

Generally pillaging is inferior to recruiting unless you need more troops then and there.

>>154576472
General wisdom is to encircle thrones as they are tougher to claim more territory, but that sounds promising.

>>154576121
This is basically the Pannion Domin.

Which nation allows me to play with full positive scales, but actually has great early expansion even with no bless?
I just want my turf to be the best and most wealthy out there, i don't care about my god having magic skills/blesses

>>154576121
Okofire isn't permabanned yet?

>>154578339
We let him play so we can rush him.

>>154578440
But he bitchslaped you in WeWuz, isn't he?

>>154576963
Add in freespawn with pillaging and you're right on. Oh and I guess popkill on the flags while they munch...

Get off YSIS, this is undead only fight!

>>154578294
EA/MA caelum.
just hold and attack rear with flying lancers.
your crappy god even gets to have a job summoning your lategame mages.

i still think luck3 with order2 or 3 is garbage and i would always run misfortune 1 and put point lesewhere, but you are free to try it and be disappointed.

>>154578294
Sceleria, vestals are good enough to kill indies without a bless but aren't good enough against armies to deserve one.

Are LA Ragha gryphons good for expansion even with no bless?
How is LA Ragha in terms of power compared to other LA nations?

>>154580925
Only Xibalba compares, Ragha is extremely strong.

>>154580925
>Are LA Ragha gryphons good for expansion even with no bless?
Yes.
>How is LA Ragha in terms of power compared to other LA nations?
Heat Ragha is easily one of the strongest nations in the age. Cold Ragha is closer to mid tier but still good.

Mictlan, you there? See that province? I'd like to go for it. Are you going for it?

>>154578598
He said he doesn't play pbems.

The true Pannion Domin is quadbless Marignon, not this soft-hearted tribless garbage. Add W9 and remove the rest of your scales (barring Misf) and you have a real build.

Hey Abysia, I notice the wolves. And werewolves. Just so you know, almost certainly the work of C'tis given they have werewolves nearby.

>>154582453
?? Whatever you're talking about I just have werewolves because of positive throne of beast events. I'm honestly just leaving my neighbors alone while they deal with popkill nations. If I attack anyone now the real winner would be the skeletons so I'm just building from within now.

>>154576472
Keep in mind MP games have throne rules set so the game does not end so abruptly. Don't focus on thrones as much early, think about them but don't sacrifice expansion to grab a throne.

Farmlands are prime provinces since they give the most income.

Keep practicing til you get to 15 provinces on year 2. It's possible, you just have to know which independents you can take on with how much.

Generally militia/light infantry is cakewalk, tribals should be ezpz for your units. Watch out for Heavy Cavalry. Large amounts of barbarians can be tough.

>>154578294
EA/MA Abysia

This is one of the nations where you can pretty safely t1 blind expand. I did not have much trouble expanding with them.

>>154582453
>Just so you know, almost certainly the work of C'tis given they have werewolves nearby.
They're from the Throne of Beasts, newfriend

>>154582453
I'm taking back my wolf province.

Just typical throne of beasts fuckery, nothing to see here.

>>154583956
>one of the nations where you can pretty safely t1 blind expand
I've been experimenting, and most nations actually can blind expand reliably enough to make it worthwhile

>>154584146
Especially given how easy it is to just AI turn 2 if it fails :)

got hit by triple event amazon gryphon riders which murdered my army and took 3 provs

and now wolves, i'm looking at you jotun

>>154585319
First off I'm Niefelheim, second off I took out the Garnets so you're welcome. And third off I just got ganked by a devil event so you're not the only one getting screwed here.

>>154554016
Is there any way to get the real replay short of installing and booting up a Linux partition just to play dominions?

OK who is the goddamn admin, Ys almost staled.

>>154586430
Just use a Linux VM; that way you can just keep it in a window instead of needing to reboot

>>154587153
>>154586430
If you don't want to install anything but don't mind rebooting, it'd also be possible to use Live DVD/USB stick (nowadays most distributions are installed from such an environment). It looks like the Steam version of Dominions for Windows has Linux binaries so you probably don't even need to install Dominions but can instead launch it from Windows partition.

And of course, you can launch one of those live distributions from an emulator too if you don't want to bother installing, which would be a faster solution if you intend to do this kind of thing often.

Honest question, is it at all worth it to play single player with several AI instead of just one? I imagine they will all be stupid and worthless as that 1 AI im used to, so I dunno if I could even learn anything from playing such a game...

>>154585950
all you giants look alike to us monkeys

but wtf are these hostile events

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>>154587845
They might all be stupid and useless, but that's no different from a real game, plus it helps you get used to the clusterfuck of multiple players and the constant cycle of allying and backstabbing that goes with it.

So, any of you scrubs ever manage to get all 12 elemental king/queens in a single game? Because I just did.

REEEEEEEEEEE!
Turn 1: Fail expansion turn 1

Turn 2: Attack again successfully

Turn 3: Attack new province successfully

Turn 4: The province I captured turn 2 is attacked by brigands and taken over even though I have luck 1 in that province.

>>154588225
Do people play random maps or fixed ones?

Are mercenaries usefull for anything other than defense against a larger army?

>>154588284
git gud.

>>154589236

In order: Yes.

It depends. Mercs are of variable usefulness, and can also be useful for such things as expansion, breaking into new paths (if casters), research, and overall pretty much anything you'd use a standard commander/troops for.

>>154588254
Yes, in mapmakingishard

>>154589535
Are the types of mercenaries available random?

Game: WorldPeace
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 20:02 GMT on Tuesday September 13th

Agartha 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
Pelagia 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
>T'ien Ch'i Waiting for 2h file

>Waiting 48+ hours on the first turn.

Yeah, I totally expect this game to go smoothly.

I have a question about mind blasts (and by extension any ranged weapon but I'm dealing with mindblasts atm and their 100% range and precision makes them a good control example anyway), if I tell them to fire closest, or fire rear, will they switch targets when a different unit gets closer/further away?
And if I tell them to target a specific type of unit, like cavalry or large monsters, will they target a single member of that unit type until it is dead?
And one more question, if I tell them to fire without specifying a target, will they stay on the same target until they kill it or choose a new target each round?

>>154590017

If you look at the inspector, that has a tab showing all the mercenaries. It picks randomly from those, with some restrictions based on age and how many turns into the game it is.

>>154590432
>I have a question about mind blasts (and by extension any ranged weapon but I'm dealing with mindblasts atm and their 100% range and precision makes them a good control example anyway), if I tell them to fire closest, or fire rear, will they switch targets when a different unit gets closer/further away?
No, they target the same squad until it routs.
>And if I tell them to target a specific type of unit, like cavalry or large monsters, will they target a single member of that unit type until it is dead?
It targets squads, but as far as mind burn is concerned they seem to gib units, instead of spreading it around.
>And one more question, if I tell them to fire without specifying a target, will they stay on the same target until they kill it or choose a new target each round?
Fire targeting is random and has a chance to hit commanders iirc.

>>154590637
Thanks for the info, would you mind clarifying a few things about the answer to the third question?
If they hit a commander does that mean they just targeted that commander's squad and happened to get a lucky hit on the commander? Or are commanders leading squads targeted as separate entities from those squads? Also will the mind blaster choose a new random target every round in that situation or does it choose a random target and focus on that until it dies?

Obviously it depends on what you're fighting and the composition of your own army but what do you think are the best orders, positioning, and formation for mind blasters to get maximum effectiveness out of them?

>>154589236
>Do people play random maps or fixed ones?
You see games using random maps from time to time but primarily a number of maps considered "balanced" are used (no large stretches of single terrain, either fixed starts or players prevented from spawning on the worst starting locations).

>Are mercenaries usefull for anything other than defense against a larger army?
They can be useful for expansion (some nations with very resource intensive but gold light troops or generally bad expansion kinda rely on them, even) and a number of mercs are mages who can be used for researching or sitesearching with paths you don't typically have access to. And of course, sometimes they can be used as reinforcements in a pinch. Amphibious mercs are also one of the best ways to get some hold of underwater.

>>154591405

Commanders are targeted as separate entities, although "Attack Commander" hasn't been an available order since Dom... 2, I think.

That Fucking Troll and his adventuring party still have it, but they only show up in events, and you can't copy the order even if you charm them anymore.

>>154583826
>Keep practicing til you get to 15 provinces on year 2.
Got 24 by year 2 this time, did I do good?

>>154591935
Yep. Try again and aim for above 15 again.
If you are confident you can repeat 15+ all the time, your build is good.

>>154591935

Good stuff. Awake expansion pretender, or just national troops?