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Okofire Edition

Previous Pankoman >>154147661


Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>Do not bully Elves

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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>>154327902
>Do not bully Elves
Don't you mean
>Do bully Elves
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Second for Underwater Bowl
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ded thred
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>>154328668
>still alive
At the very least, I won't finish last in the UWBOWL.
RIP LOBO HORDES
Not that they're expensive to replace.

Also, does anyone know exactly where Ermor's cap is?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLnKF6MKg68

This looks so good. Why is Russia so based?
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<ANGRY TRUMPET NOISES>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTKOah18x0g
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>>154329175
get in steam chat
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>>154329447
t. Malakal
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>>154329175
Keep me up to date on the underwater happenings so I can keep making these. Or not, it's not like they're good
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Sceleria are you in here? need to talk about stuff
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>>154329447
Can't right now. Maybe later.

>>154329590
Sure, I can do that.
Naturally I can't share everything.
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Trade and Taint is coming. Release is currently tentatively slated for early 2017.

Some elements from CoE4 and Dom4 are going into the game, beyond the obvious sprites. Overland map will be the 3d one scheduled for use with dom4. Games with progress a year per irl day (adjustable of course) with all characters in aging appropriately. Every time "taint" overtakes the world it will soft reset, with player towns strong enough to survive becoming hubs and the ones that fell becoming ruins to explore.

>sauce

Can't give myself away sorry, feel free to ask questions about the game though.
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>>154331114
Trade and Taint? Why not just call it Goods and Gooch?
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>>154331114
Illwinter has players they use for beta testers. I can confirm you're full of shit.
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Do vermin feasts from different casters stack?
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TheBiggestFattestMeme
Need one more player. to get this memeshow on the road, Map is riverlands and we have WH 5.5, Magic Enhanced 1.2 and thrones.dm for a wonderful meme time.
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Game: ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems
Turn number 6
Next turn due: 18:49 GMT on Saturday September 10th

Agartha 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
Niefelheim 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
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>>154335665
>Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
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Vampire Queen a best
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>>154327902
>showing everyone that you have loremasters
fucking shiggy fucking diggy m7
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>>154337134
Oh no, please don't come for my lore masters
>implying you can
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>>154337486
Not even in that game.

I was in the game where the existence of lore master province provoked an all-out war though.
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>>154327902
So, just played my first game withount reading the tutorial, and played the tutorial, now I think im ready to explore this game a bit further. What are the easiest races for begginers?

Also, any pro-tips and advice would be great.
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>>154337558
Actually it's not even mine, I uncovered it during some raids on the land dwellers. Just letting everyone know it exists
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>You and another player bully a player
>Notice that he goes AI
>kek
>Go to message your partner in crime
>They're AI too
TFW you have no one to gloat with
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>>154339407
>faggots always going AI or chain staling
I'm really starting to hate this game even though I have over 1600 hours put into it
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>>154338217

MA Ulm or MA Vanheim both make a good starting point.

The former you go mostly scales (I.e. dump most of your points into a good dominion), with (usually) an imprisoned N9 Irminsul. You then churn out many, many priest smiths, and large armies of dudes. The smiths can make up items to gear summons for dirt cheap, and also make for solid battle casters.

The latter, you take a W9Ex bless or an N9Ex bless, produce Vans and Vanjarls, and rush the everloving shit out of things. A Vanjarl and half a dozen Vans can kill a majority of indies, which means you can potentially deploy an expansion party EVERY TURN. Jarls can, later, be geared up and scripted such that they can solo PD, and with their ability to cast cloud trapeze and glamour, you can drop one from orbit onto every province your enemy has in a single turn, and then disappear around his armies until he's completely ruined economically.
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>>154339914
>Only 1600 hours
Get on my level scrub. 3000+ Hours and counting (mostly on idle, I swear).
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>>154341048
>It is six AM
>Nick is pouring over one of his many messages, carefully choosing his words to manipulate the lesser minds of his opponents
>His foot quivers on the ground as he sips his third energy drink of the night.
>Dawn's glare begins to shine through his window, but rest must wait. There are meme games to win.
>He finally nods, satisfied, then presses "Ok."
>He lets out a sigh of exhaustion, and begins to go over the script for his upcoming battle.
>"This needs testing," he muses, for while he has seen every spell in the upcoming fight used in any number of combinations, one can never be too sure when it comes to High Level Dominions.
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>>154334206
Joining as Atlantis
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>>154342008
Kek.

Pretty sure it's true though.
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Game: TheBiggestFattestMeme
Early Age, max 16 players
Players so far: 16


GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO
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>>154342008
Nonsense, I do not drink energy drinks. I only drink the pure nectar of Dr. Pepper.

Don't say such blasphemy.
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>>154338217
Nations with good troops are best, because they can easily beat the AI without magic.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't use magic, it just gives you a nice safety net so you can experiment with some of the variety of spells available in the game without much risk.

>>154340979 gives a couple of good choices with decent pretender advice. I'd add that you'll want production 3 on Ulm, as your units are very expensive in resources.
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>>154338217
Any nation with solid troop line up and obvious strategy for magic.

Best imo are: EA/MA Vanheim, LA Midgard, MA Pan, EA Fomoria, MA Ulm, LA Atlantis.
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So, how about setting Abysia AI for a non-meme name?
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>>154343241
Solid pretenders names, I look forward to memeing with you assholes.
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>>154334206
resent an updated pretender
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>>154343241
>Pangea worships DAT MAENAD HOOCHIE COOCHIE, the Embracer, Giver of Life, Turner of the Flood.
It's like pottery.
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>>154343241
OH NO I'M TOO LATE!! Please replace my pretender (Atlantis) with the one I have sent PLS
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>>154344286
Too late, faggot. Prepare to be memed.
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>>154344286
I hope you spawn near me.
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Hey guys why was Pelagia sad on their birthday? Because their cake didn't have any candles.
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>>154343993
Nah mate you wanted to play in the UW bowl. You were also the last player to join so nothing we could really do about mate. Autostart is the default.
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>>154329938
Sceleria pls
>>154344531
hehehe
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>>154344063
It's beautiful.
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Total newbie here, checked the manual, cant find an answer:

Is there a way to fix rusted armor/weapons? Nearly 80% of my units got blasted with it in the last encounter
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>>154345205
automatically repaired over time based on the resources of the province.
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>>154342008
You give Nick too much credit.

He bankrolls the dominions illuminati in exchange for a good winrate.
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Total newbie here again:

So far, loving the game, just the sheer amount of mechanics and the amount of variability gives me a lot of questions.

If Blood Sabbath Communion takes 100 fatigue to cast and a blood slave, if a communioner has two slaves, will he sacrifice both in order to stay at 100 fatigue for the Sabbath master? Otherwise, he only has another 100 to give before he dies from the use of the communion correct?

I havn't touched blood magic yet in any of my games yet. Been playing Malverni for my first actual I understand a good chunk of the mechanics game.
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>>154346321
If he is B2 or higher and Conservative Gem Use is not checked or if he has another spell scripted after it (even though he won't be able to cast it anyways), he will use 2. B1 mages can only use 1 slave.
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>>154346321
If he has B1, he can only use one slave, and that's already taken up in casting the spell. So it'll always be 100 fatigue.

If he has B2, his fatigue from will be lower even with only a single slave (50), but he may use a second slave to lower it further (33) if conserve gem usage is turned off.

Best way to solve this is to have a mage with blood as a sabbath master. Having a communion master cast the spell Reinvigorate will remove all fatigue from the slaves, so you don't need to worry about the fatigue from setting up the sabbath.
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>>154346782
>>154346973

Thanks for all the help. Learned the power of communions in the mid game of this Malverni game. Went to siege a cap and killed 12 of my stargazers with overspam because I overshot the amount of reserve fatigue, so just trying to figure all of this out, because it is obviously really powerful when used right.

Also, blessed boars (A9N4B4) of Carnutes are hillariously fun.
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>>154347391
That's normally not a great bless, actually, but I can see how it'd be good against the AI which loves to spam cheap units and doesn't really use magic.
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>>154347525
[/spoiler] I have no idea what I'm doing, just having fun. It's actually W9N4B4
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Don't play Dom4 when you're drunk.

I'm dead serious.
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Bump the thread, you fools.
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Ys swans are now sacred.

Is this the change Ys needs?
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Post battle reports.
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>>154348049
More like don't submit turns when you're drunk. Blacking out and then coming back to an empire in shambles, not a fun experience. I appparently cussed out a neighbor one time, but it was ok cause I made his ass go AI
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>>154352418
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>>154353713
Why not just RoS? That seems like a lot of gems and some lost mages for what could have been a clean trap
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>>154352418
I burned a lot of gems, and honesty he has 4 other 600+ doomstacks I'm struggling to deal with.
I'm so excited for next turn

Come at me bb
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>>154353807
I had Pyre and Maelstorm up so I had the gems to burn. And I only had one RoS caster near that stack when it attacked me. My mages wouldn't have died if I wasn't an idiot and placed them near the archers of provincial PD. Guess what those crossbow were set to fire on.

Here is a cleaner defense
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>>154354104
He really shouldn't be moving mages in a stack like that against RoS. 24 Wind Masters, kek, he must have been pissed.
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>>154353831
>11 ancient lords
Oh sweet lawd almighty, but there do be some dumb ass crackas
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>>154353831
>Mostly pale one militia

There are many things to describe that stack, but doom is not one of them.
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>>154354738
It's mostly Agartha's doom
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I actually DO understand buying massed pale one militia, but only for sieging. They're amazing at that. Actually using them for combat, though. Now that's something else. If I had that many and had to drag them from one siege to another, I'd probably just blob them all up near the back and hope they don't get in the way of real units.
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Badmin please set this fucker to AI.
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Do thrones spread dominion for EA Mictlan?
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>>154331114
I could buy that Trade and Taint is Shillwinter's next big release, but I don't believe this post.

Is CoE4 any good? I've never gotten around to it.
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>>154357940
No version of CoE is any good. Sorry. It's not Heroes, it's not Dominions, it's clunky, it's micro-intensive for no real reward, and it's just shit
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>>154358113
That's a shame. Guess I'll be waiting for Trade and Taint for an alternative source of Illfraud memery.
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>>154357940
It's a fun way to spend an hour or two. It's not awful.
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>>154358298
It's fun for ~5 hours while you dick around with stuff and read the cute descriptions. It's got some interesting idea (CoE dwarves are social animals like ants with magic queens) and elementals plane. It just don't have fun as game
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>>154357668
Pls assist.
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>>154358489
yes
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>>154357940

CoE4 is fun if you like modding games for yourself. But I wish you could at least somewhat script what your units do on the battlefield.
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>>154358385
>>154358405
>>154358578
I'm interested, but not $24.99 interested. I have a crumpled car to see to.
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>>154358563
Thanks <3
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>>154356557
Who's bordering Ulm? Van got access to both him and an AI, if we're not careful he might end up with 3 caps by the time we take care of Ermor.
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Arco, would you be willing to share up to date graphs? Graphs are fun.
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Are sites that say "a X mage may enter to summon Y" effected by the respective level of the X path? Meaning do you get more of the summoned units with a stronger mage?
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>>154357940
I thought it was pretty good, but I played it before I got into Dominions. Hard to say how it would hold up if I went back to it, since it seems Dominions has far more depth.
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>>154360242
No, but there are a lot of events where the mage levels matter and SOME of those sites spawn events based on what uses them
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>>154360148
My global got replaced. I have a project in mind, though, that hopefully people will find interesting.
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>>154360643
>global got replaced
Oh, I didn't realize we already had that many globals up and running. Interested in seeing this project when it's ready.
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>>154354738
>>154354835
Oh no his other stacks are straight DOOM
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>>154360736
My 54 gem Mother Oak has paid for itself 2 times over by so IDK. But Arco has been a great neighbor so I'm not going to question what he does with his pearls at this point since I'm irrelevant. But if you need more pearls to cast something i got you bb

The real threat here though I'm going to distract everyone from though. They'll be our overlords in 30 turns
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>>154360148
>when someone starts up the horse while you're still changing the oil
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>>154356557
Looks like he came back?
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>>154345710
I can confirm this is true. The last time I fought against nick, a bunch of inconspicuous men in black suits and with nailed baseball bats came and told me that unless I went AI and deathbasketed all my gems, I would regret it. I may be in a wheelchair now, but at least I can still play dominions.
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>>154363908
Look again
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>>154364834
Huh, so why does it say

>Ulm 2h file received
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If I'm a new player in my first game, and I want to learn Blood, would Niefelheim be a good option?
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>>154365151
Nifelhiem isn't really that dependent on blood. It'd look to EA/LA Mictlan if want to force yourself to learn blood.
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>friday night
>still no turns
>general is dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhKGtgcZghc
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>>154365141
Maybe admin set him AI.
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>>154329203
looks meh
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>>154365423
Thanks, but I kinda want to play a giant nation, and Hinnom looked worse (with the unrest generation and population eating).
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>>154365439
Saturday morning fag.
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>>154365151
They're a decent option, but if you try to play them with just blood magic it's going to end badly.

Play without blood until midgame while you get some other options, then start moving into blood to help with lategame.

>>154366067
Yeah, Hinnom is way worse than Niefelheim for blood.
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>>154366067
I think you can play niefelheim with blood as a supplement, not a main dish.
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>>154368410
Works for me, thanks!
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>>154348049
Pelagia? Is that you?
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>>154368484
Follow-up, what's a decent beginner's pretender for Niefelheim?
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>No turns
Why live?
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Game: AntiquisTerra
Turn number 8
Next turn due: 14:07 GMT on Saturday September 10th
>Pelagia Waiting for 2h file
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Game: Kichikuo_Domg
Turn number 3
Next turn due: 21:24 GMT on Saturday September 10th
>C'tis Waiting for 2h file
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Game: Nagot_gick_fel
Turn number 28
Next turn due: 19:47 GMT on Saturday September 10th
>Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
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>>154369729
Imprisoned N9E4 irminsul with max order, growth. Can take one point of drain since all your mates are big and expensive anyway.
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>>154370043
Appreciate it. Difficult game to get into for a newbie.
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What's a good early research goal as Patala? No sure if going evo4 for blade wind or probably even evo5 and thaum1 to comunion cascades, or what else.
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>>154371545
Stellar cascades and LOTNS are pretty much essential. After that, it will depend on who you are fighting, although going for your air summons is a good idea.
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>>154370190
Highly suggest reading up on communions as that's probably the best early game use of your blood paths. Skratti turbo communions are a thing to know.
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>tfw get home from training and doing turns exhausted

This won't end well.
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Sceleria olathe pls
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>>154373843
Just sleep on it and set your clock to ring exactly 30 minutes before you have to send your turn, it's what I do.
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>>154373063
I know about communions / sabbaths, what's the "turbo" part?
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>>154374453

The slaves have giant HP, natural regen (because they're in werewolf form), regen from a shroud, and regen from one of the masters casting Personal Regen.

This makes them spectacularly difficult to fatiguekill.
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>>154374869
Thanks!
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>>154331114
I wish but you're likely full of shit.
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>when you get paid
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>>154375624
Damn, that's a lot of gold.
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So I have no idea how to play this fucking game, but I get steam popups from the group about games pretty much several times a day. Should I join one and scrub things up?
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>>154376590
yes, and ask for advice

they will shit on you but in a good way

also ask Cirno about his guide
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>>154376696
do not ask cirno about his guide.
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>>154376696
>>154376752
It doesn't matter if you ask him, he'll tell you anyway.
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>>154376590
Only if you actually play it out and don't go AI/chain-stale when someone sneezes in your direction
yes I'm bitter
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Could've sworn thread was more active yesterday at this hour. Dont tell me you faggots actually go out to party on saturdays.
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>>154377691
I'm at work because my co-worker is taking their vacation and I already had mine.
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C'tis send your fucking turn.
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154377996
The world would be consumed by skeletons, if only the skeletons weren't also being played by /domg/.
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>>154377996
>mfw zero stales
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>>154329938
What game
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>>154379163
olathe
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>>154379207
No conspiring against Agartha, bad worst-yomi
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>>154379719
no one is going to bully you agartha, I just wanna talk border
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>>154379771
Well don't ask Sceleria then, I'm eating him for being in my way to get to the UW bowl.
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>>154379884
All the more reason to remove you.
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>trying to decide what units to recruit for Patala
>read the description for the Nagini
>wait a minute
>look it up in the inspector and see that she has stealth and seduction
>this isn't shown in the game because it shows her snake form

what other secrets is this game hiding from me?
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>>154344639
Olathe?
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>>154381134
Apsaras gain blood magic when gift of reasoned
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>>154381134
>has to change form for seduction

Fucking normalfag commanders who don't want a snakegirl waifu.
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>>154381457
yup, I really should put oltahe in the name file so people can ctrl-F it
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Ys come talk if you can.
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>>154381579
All commanders are basically Chad tbqh
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I am joining a 3 player disciple games (EA)
We are now in our third pick
So far my team is Lanka and Mictlan, we are planning to pick marverni

What triple bless should we do?
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>>154382108
I've seen like a million Abysia posts asking for "x" in chat, this nigga sure takes his games seriously.
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>>154382664
As expected of Malakal, the biggest autist ITT.
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>>154382664

Faster to trade than relying on ingame messages.
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>>154382660
>So far my team is Lanka and Mictlan, we are planning to pick marverni
If you get maverni B9 for sure.
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>>154382660
W9N9B9
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>>154382854
Slow trades are part of the Dominions experience.
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>>154374019
Yes
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>>154382660
For Lanka,N9B9X9. Probably a W9 at the end there. Makes his sacreds amazing from start to finish.
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>>154382892
>>154382937
precisely, either B or N
I want WBN, but what about scales?
I dont want to trash either growth or luck
But, we can just march conquering the world and not spread our candles
Is that the way to go? Trash all scales but luck? Be the cancer?
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>>154383017
If you stay out of 84 and 51 I'd be fine with those borders. you cool with that?
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>>154383178
I'll check my turn and get back to you
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>>154383152
Tribless requires p cancer scales. Go duobless if you want scales at all
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>when you accidently bully bats
it's the little things that count
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>>154383531
And he was never heard from again....
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Hey Atlantis, you there? You, uh, seem to have just taken something in my capring. I'd rather like to have it back. If you pop into steamchat we can talk about it.
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>>154385683
we the fish people accept your surrender
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>TC working with snowballing Pan

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>154386235
don't you have an AI Pelagia to eat?
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>>154327902
>unironically letting people know you have lore masters
What are you doing anon?
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>>154386803
He's showing that a province that he raided (and therefore won't keep) has lore masters. It's more showing that someone he's fighting has them rather than that he does.
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>>154386773
don't worry

you will defeat us fish peoples and we will return to the oceans as is tradition
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>>154386965
I'm not Abysia, I'm just not understanding your decisions
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>>154387031
Dont worry, he's not Atlantis either, so just continue your conversation as if both of you were.
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>>154387031
why not take his unguarded stuff?
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>>154387220
people on /domg/ don't generally understand the concept of harass
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i am sieging a fortress.
can i mindhunt the commanders inside it without killing my siegers?
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>>154374019
You send your turn

>>154383531
And you answer him so he can send his turn.

Do it already REEEEEEE
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>>154387596
Yes. Mind hunt will never target your own units. You can cast it on your own provinces to snipe stealthy units
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>>154387596
You can even cast Flames from the Sky/Fires from afar/Murdering Winter and they'll all hit the army inside.
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>>154383178
Sounds good to me
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>>154388151
okay doing my turn then
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>Game: TheBiggestFattestMeme
>Turn number 1
>Next turn due: 02:39 GMT on Monday September 12th
>>>>>>>>>>>>Yomi Waiting for 2h file
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>>154388831
Still got two days left.
>>
Do mindblasts pop mistform?
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Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Oceania 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
Ys 2h file received

PANIC
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Can the Chalice (which heals afflictions) even heal the chest wound caused by the Heart of Life?
Or is that wound permanent?
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>>154389013
Sub when?
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>>154389252
If the dude with the heart of life is an immortal that dies or otherwise loses the item, then it can be healed. It can't be healed while it's inside of them
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>>154389138
>Memegeddon was hosting
Panic averted
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>>154389334
Is the +5 encumbrance penalty from the wound applied to undeads with 0 encumbrance and 0 fatigue?
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How drunk can I be and not regret doing my turns the day after?
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>>154389495
For spellcasting yes. For combat no
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>>154389509
If you think that sending your turns while drunk is a good idea, then you're probably too drunk.
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I'm a noob playing against the AI and have no idea what I'm doing. Trying to build a heavy thug/light SC. This is how it's looking right now. He's casting Mistform and Body Ethereal before heading in to battle. What should be changed? I'm aware the MR is crap, but it's the AI...
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Forgot to mention he also casts Blessing, and has N9 bless.
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>>154388831
And new turn received. Bullying clearly worked.
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>>154389771
9 Encumbrance looks too high, especially since he attacks twice / 4 times every other turn. Do you have E4?
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>>154389678
Good point.
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>>154389771
two shadow brands and low MR means he has a chance to weakness himself. Switch out for fire brands. Barkskin amulet is silly when you have iron healm on and only makes his FR weaknes higher, switch for MR amulet, girdle of str. or ring of regen
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>>>>154390103
I do not have that. I've tried putting the Resilience-amulet on him to counter the problem partially (gives reinvig 5).

>>154390268
It's not a barkskin amulet. It's the "Amulet of Resilience" which gives 5 in reinvigoration. What does the "Weakness" effect of shadow brand actually do?
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>>154390268
>Barkskin amulet
I'm pretty sure that's not barkskin. I think a Fire/Frost brand combo would be better than two of one.
>>154390103
He'll be regaining fatigue via soul vortex though but he's kinda screwed against lifeless.
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>>154390598
>>154390606
my bad vision strikes again. Weaknes lowers his STR
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>>154389495
Yes but 0 enc creatures will still have 0 enc for attacking
>>154390598
Weakness damage type drains strength.
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Oceania, are you here?
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>>154390598
Basically shadow brands on attack effect has an AOE of 5, which means it'll affect the target square + 4 randomly selected squares around it. This includes the square containing your unit. This means your dude has a chance to hit himself every time he attacks.
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>>154389771
When it comes to SCs, you gear them for what they're fighting against. That will work fine against the hordes of chaff that the AI throws at you, but if there's an S3+ mage in their army, it'll get soul slain and killed. If it gets too close to W mages, it'll get its heart frozen. If it gets tagged by incinerates, it'll die. etc
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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Man 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Midgard 2h file received
Patala 2h file received
>Pythium Waiting for 2h file
Ragha 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Bogarus 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

>Next turn due: 07:13 GMT on Sunday September 11th

I swear to God if there is no turn all of today, I'll send you 470 turn resends, Pythium.
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>>154390718
>>154390606
Right, thanks. I'm not too worried about the lowered strength then, as it doesn't affect the secondary damage of the brands (or does it?).

However, I'll give frost/fire a go as well, it might well work better.
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>>154391008
So basically you're always gonna want high MR, even when fighting the AI? Do I get the amulet of antimagic for that or are there better alternatives?
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>>154391041
I'm not in your game, but I'd prefer if you didn't. If people spam turn resends, it might get the button moved to admin access only, and that's kinda inconvenient.
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>>154390995
I'm not the one you asked but I did not know that was how it worked exactly, thanks for the info.
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>>154391220
I t d e p e n d s

The AI won't use communions, so soul slay is only a problem when it's got S3 mages. Pumping MR is also not a sure thing, since all it takes is one bad roll to die. Remember that there's an MR buff in astral too which you can cast.
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>>154391220
Even AI can pull out the big guns occasionally.

>indie pretender chassis opens battle with fog warriors
>it's early year 2
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>>154382854
Hop in chat, if possible.
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>>154388151
You can't have 44. Either you sell it to me or Agartha or I'll take it.

I can't accept ugly borders, we must show a good example for the UWBOWL participants.
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>>154377996
Should we end it?

I can also set Ermor AI, but I don't know what's going to happen to 20000 skeletons if I do that...
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>>154391782
Set Ermor AI, yes. The remaining players can battle the super-AI. It'll be PvE, except with backstabbing.
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>>154391343
Ok, thanks. Too many fucking spells for me too keep track of yet, but I've added the Resist Magic to the cast list.

>>154391645
Yeah I've noticed (the hard way) that the indie mages have everything "unlocked" and can cast it as long as they have the paths.
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You didn't hear this from me but Van is literally on Ulm's capital this very moment (who got set to AI).

Just food for thought.
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>>154392958
T. Ermor
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>>154393142
Nah fuck Ermor too, I'm just saying the nations who AREN'T dealing with Ermor right now should think carefully about who they're letting expand.
>>
If a unique of mine dies, can i "resurrect" (or summon another one) him with wish?
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BIGGEST

MEMEGAME

EVER

J O I N

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Oviposition
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Time for graphs.
The moral of this game is to not let the nation with excellent lategame reach lategame without being molested in any way.
Oh, and not to go AI when you suffer a single loss.
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>>154390084
Been just 40 minutes and most people sent their turn again.

Yomi 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Abysia 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
>Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
Ulm 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
Ur 2h file received
>Kailasa Waiting for 2h file
>C'tis Waiting for 2h file
>Pelagia Waiting for 2h file
Helheim 2h file received

Cmon guys let's make this 3 turns a day and get out of the first year this weekend.
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>>154393561
>Mods: DEBUG-mod
I think not.
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Basically, Asphodel was huge and ran over Arco and went AI when marignon killed his pretender, despite being bigger than anyone else in the game
Pelagia then went AI, then R'yleh, then Bandar Log (despite having broken into blood with his diversity pretender), then TC after I beat a couple of his armies with a geared Ice Devil and the force I had sent to take Asphodel's cap.
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Most of the provinces I took early on after expansion were from Asphodel, so they weren't exactly worth a lot. The gem income from his provinces was pretty damn good, though.
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Gem income was really good for me since I managed to get a bone reader province and sitesearched a ton. I also found a loremaster province from one of Pelagia's few land provinces, as he was next to me and went AI randomly. I also managed to get Mother Oak pretty early since there wasn't much competition for it with Asphodel gone.
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>>154394047
Non-astral nations are fucked. Turn 1 wish to kill their pretenders and they can't even get sensei ;_;.
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>>154394728
Nah. The turn 1 spell still goes through even if the caster dies. The reason that they're fucked is that the astral nations get a debug sensei summoner every turn from every fort
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>>154394728
Pretty sure most nations get more than 2 gems when starting, they can just use alchemy to get a pearl and leave 1 S on their pretender.
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>>154393561
>fuckhuge battles where everyone has 10 magic everything

yes
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I had a lot of forests near me and with vaetti hags in M3 the only one to come even close to me was Marignon with the imprisoned statue pretender (I had a bog standard N9E4 Irminsul for the skratti communions and thugging with shrouds) . A big overcast on gift of health and an empowered gygja + vampire lord gave me a ton of tartarians to thug with and throw at everyone else once they realised that I probably shouldn't be left alone.
Being the only serious blood nation in the game, I felt safe in dumping a lot of blood slaves into vampire lords (I had about 10 summoning vampires for most of the game), got the ice devils and big devils from Loki, and then snowballed into demons and max diversity from the tartarians. So yeah, I kind of wish that I had more fights before getting into the "cast literally anything you want" stage. Jotunheim is a pretty damn good nation, overall. Their troops aren't too great (vaetti have great stats for size 1 though), but as soon as skratti communions are up most other nations are hard pressed to get through the amount of cancer and skeletons you can put up, although I imagine flying nations/ones that can cast mass flight will do fairly well. Or just rushing them before they get their magic up.
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>>154395254
>implying battles
It's just going to be people spamming debug wish over and over again every turn to try to kill each other remotely. Or someone mashing armageddon ten times a turn.
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How would I go about thugging out the Melia, if I even can?
The Melia costs 165 gold, and I can give her a Frost Brand for 2 water gems, and a Girdle of Might for 2 earth gems. That's pretty cheap.
Anything else I can outfit a cheap thug with?
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>>154395846
>N9
>E4
>Frost Brand
>Vine Shield
done
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>>154395846
Frost brand, vine shield, E buffs (Ironskin, Temper Flesh), that's it.
>>
Caelum are you here?
I think it's time for the deed.
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>>154395846
>15 hp

N9 mandatory. perhaps even a N gem to let them cast enlarge self.

i think that it can easly clear PD but that's it. low hp and low attack are not a great deal.
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>>154396461
Not a chance in hell. I got all my essential spells ready.
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>>154396586
You don't want to do it because you are ready?
What do you mean?
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>>154396843
I'm not Caelum, you fool.

If you think that you're some kind of diplo genius, think again.
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>>154396912
I do not, I do however think you are mistaken.
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>>154397137
We'll see in two turns then.
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>>154396039
>>154396170
I don't have a great income of nature gems yet, so vine shields seem a bit expensive right now.

>>154396492
I'm running more of a rainbow pretender. No N at all. Just minor blesses.
I'm not looking for a stellar thug, just something that's cost effective.
I have no idea what I'm doing, never made a thug before.

Also I don't think the Melia can cast Enlarge, as it's a N2 spell.
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>>154397174
Whoever you are look at my troop movements. I assume you have scouts.
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>>154397253
They can with a gem

Also, if you're trying to send her into mindblasts, you're going to have a bad time
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>>154393878
>>154394113
>>154394308
>>154394585
>>154395579
Nice to see a frost giants win.
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Welp, time to crank up that eurobeat and try to make sense of this mess I'm in.
>>
Which nation is the best at ammassing a fuckton of storm demons relatively fast?
>>
>>154397680
Berytos maybe
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>>154397680
Chimori
Bery and Lanka can get them out soonest, but their A/B mages are cap only. Vanheim/Helheim theoretically can get the most out at once with their A2B1 dudes with boosters / empowerment, but that relies on them having a big blood economy which they're not actually that good at.
>>
>>154397680
Bery or vanheim
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>>154397353
How do I script that?
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>>154397996
It's the only real use for blood slaves with Vanheim, along with blood stones
>>
>>154398552
And Robe of the Magi, which a Vanadrott can boost to reasonably well.
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>>154398552
>not black hearts
scrub
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>>154394113
I left when Marignon broke the agreement about Pan's cap, fuck him and the admin.
>>
>>154399101
>he broke my diplomatic agreement in a non-binding diplo game WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
always be ready for the knife in the back
>>
>>154399231
It was an agreement amoungst players and admin due to the latter having not noticed SOMEHOW that Pan staled since turn 1, not a diplomatic agreement.
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>>154397585
Get removed, bat.
>>
>>154397585
REMOVE ALI BABA
>>
You here Ur?
>>
>>154399101
I think you should have stuck around. No offence to marignon but he wasn't exactly threatening any dominions top 10 players lists, Pans capital didn't matter at all in the end.
>>
>>154399623
>>154400009

You guys should be thankful, I'm removing elf for you all.
>>
>>154400180
I'd already been cheated out of a war by Arco going AI as soon as I poked him, Marignon's stature didn't matter it just left a bad taste in my mouth the entire game thusfar.

I digress that I probably should have stuck around, for others sake.
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>>154376752
Cirno has literally never won a game following his own guide. He has never actually reached endgame, either.
>>
>>154392475
>>154391782
That actually sounds awesome, I can sub pangaea or marignon if Ermor goes AI.

How big he is anyway?
>>
Is there a reliable way to guess how many commanders an indie province has so I don't have to waste an extra turn on an assassinate command or do I pretty much have to issue assassinate commands until my assassin can't find anyone in order to be sure?
>>
>>154401269

Attack the province with a scout with the retreat order. Count how many commanders there are, proceed to assassinate that many times.
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>>154401269
Each different unit type will be a separate squad and have a commander. Each commander can only lead 40 men so if there's more then they'll double up. Most provinces have 3 at the most with maybe a priest.
>>
Noob here with a question. There is a Throne of Darkness in my game which ensures every battle is fought in complete darkness. It has been so the past 15-20 turns. Now this isn't a problem for me since I'm fielding mostly demons and undead, but it got me wondering; can you counter this? Like, getting rid of the darkness?
>>
>>154402060
It shouldn't happen for more than a turn or two. Do you have story events on? That might be the case.
>>
Is Xibalba here?
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>>154402060
throne of darkness should last 2-4 turns.
either a bug happened or some weird story event.
or maybe someone casted utterdark as global enchantment and you didn't notice it.
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>>154402273
NO FUCK YOU THIS MEANS WAR
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>>154402212
>>154402456
Okay, that's weird. Story events is off (never have that on) and utterdark has not been casted.
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>>154402060
Second sun removes darkness.
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>>154400980
The point of this game was for everyone to have an alliance against Super-Ermor, so he started the game with a bunch of thematic thugs and so on. Then the players, uh, didn't ally against Ermor and the Super-Ermor player killed a major army of each of the players and did some other random stuff so most folks lost interest. I don't know how big he actually is, I just know the story to the game.
>>
Get in, shitters:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WorldPeace
>>
>>154402753
Spooky
Glad that bug hasnt appeared in any MP games
>>
>>154403498
>1.23
Are you that badmin?
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>>154403562
I hope it appears in NĂ¥got Gick Fel.
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>>154403498
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WorldPeace
>MA
>no summod

oh boy
>>
>>154403498
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WorldPeace
>no summod

Are you even trying?
>>
>>154403697
Lanka fuck off
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>>154404195
>>154404218
Why would I use some nerd's autismomod?
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>>154403498
>no summod
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>>154403498
>Story events on
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>>154404420
Why would i join some nerds autismgame?
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>>154404463
>>154404438
*grabs you by the neck* BACK THE FUCK OFF?!?!?!

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WorldPeace
>>
>>154404656
Why would you play two teachers autismgame?
>>
Okay, since there's a deeeecent chance this is the badmin that rolled back a turn for his friend that one time and refused to restart when two nations shared a cap circle, but I DO want a new game, I'm gonna go ahead and make one.

Stand by
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>>154404958
No, its just that the last time I admined a game Summod wasn't a requirement for making an MA game.
>>
>>154405123
It's more the WH 1.23 thing, desu. He's the only admin I know that was zealous about using that version
>>
>>154404958
Sounds top tier.
>>
Is there a summon in N, A, D or E who can fly and lead relatively large (60+) numbers of magic beings?
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>>154405167
Well I assure you that I have no friends for which I could roll back turns.
>>
>>154405232

Off the top of my head, Fairy Queen? Or just, y'know, put flight boots on stuff.
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>>154405123
>>154405167
>>154405174
>>154405268
Given that summod was added, I'm p sure it's not that guy. You're prob cool and I'll join the game.

Also, use summod 0.68. I just uploaded it to Llama with the correct title. 0.67 was the in-production version, not the official release, and it's literally incomplete and likely buggy.
>>
>>154405483
Oh, and along similar lines - for MA, the only change from 0.54 to 0.55 was bug fixes, so probably best to use that too.

The link that I used for the 0.68 version was also the direct download link, which might be helpful since for some reason people have trouble finding the 'releases' button on github
>>
>>154405667
>>154405483
Done. For reference my previous games were NoWeaboos and GelatinousCube among others.
>>
>>154406378
Ooooh, weren't you the guy who got stabbed by a methhead?
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>>154406825
That was SaltElemental
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>>154406378
You got arrested and imprisoned, right?
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>>154406825

I wonder if that guy who requested an extension because he needed to protect his goats from rebels is still around.
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>>154406378
How was prison?
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>>154407154
No, I got arrested for drug possession but got put in a drug diversion program instead of getting prison time.
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>>154407795
>get arrested for drugs, probably has an addiction

They should just give you the Lambert treatment. 20+ games won't leave you any time for drugs (or anything else).
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>>154407795
Welcome back, we now have summod everywhere, all hail summod.
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>>154407795
hey buddy you stole owe me 10 grams of rock, I'm coming for yo ass
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>>154407890
LSD isn't addictive

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WorldPeace
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>>154405483
We did remember to fix conscripts, right? I can't remember if I was meant to do it and I haven't so...
>>
>>154408401
I'm not sum1, I just uploaded the newest version to llama in preparation for starting a game
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>>154408669
You, you what. I'm not even sure we were at a new release version.
>>
>>154408758
https://github.com/sum1won/summod/releases

Yes we are
>>
>>154399486
>abloobloobloo
It's a strategy wargame. Defend your holdings or you lose the right to hold them. Assert your will through military dominance.
Fucking babby.
>>
>>154409780
>I can't read, the post
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>>154403624
No but I am
>>
>>154409921
Leaving a game for any reason other than defeat makes you a babby
>>
>>154410069
Sure, have fun in your games with badmin or admin fuckups.
>>
>>154410069
>not playing a three month game with an admin who is deliberately fucking around to help his friend makes you a baby.
>>
can someone post a screenshot of what thrones are in TheBiggestFattestMeme, i'm curious
>>
>>154410589
Y'all are talking about different things.
>>
Are the HPs gained from the Corpse-eating ability (like Eater of the Dead and Raven of the Underworld) a permanent increase in max HP? Or is it shit like temporary HPs that, once you lose, you have to regain them again by eating more corpses? Also, is there a fixed cap on either the eater of the dead or the raven/dog of the underworld?
>>
>>154410069
I dunno, I'd probably leave a game that got castle-doc'd.

Actually wait, no I wouldn't. I'd first try to conquer the adminship of the game.
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>>154400891
Lies and slander
I've won plenty against the ai :^)
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>>154410805
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>>154412410
>Throne of Bullying
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>>154412584
pls no bully
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>>154412410
this looks very good
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>>154412718
>Increases unrest
A healthy amount of bullying is necessary to keep this thread alive and the scrubs in check. That should be decreases unrest.
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>>154412410
>>154412584
>once claimed, causes bullying throughout the world for ~4 turns
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>>154412887
>once claimed, with a lab in the province, will send bullies to
destroy the lab
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>>154396461
You've been trolled, hi though.
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>>154412410
This one is my favourite.
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>>154413124
wha~
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>>154413124
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>>154413124
I don't get it.
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>>154413124
If you could only read event code as I do you'd rush the fucker who gets this asap.
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>>154414049
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>>154403498
>10/12 points required to win
It's going to take forever.
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>two water nations
uh oh. I'll start when I get one more pretender

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WorldPeace
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>>154416009
>Man
>T'ien Ch'i
>Pelagia
>Agartha
>Nazca
>Vanarus
>Sceleria
>Pangaea
>Shinuyama
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>>154416098
sorry I'm tripping. I read Pangea as Pelagia even though Pelagia is already on there
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What's a standard pretender design for MA TC? With summod of course. W9 bless?
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>>154416195
So you're going to get arrested AGAIN then?
>>154416356
I went with F9E4 dormant statue, and so far I have been very happy.
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>>154415631
Just take Abysia and domkill everyone with blood saccing.

It will be faster that way.
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>>154417037
Hi Andre.
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Page 10.
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Here's a winged ichtyid to keep the thread alive.
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To keep the bread alive I will say that ermor is a shit nation and only wins because /domg/ is full of shitters that don't know how to just script EQ x 2
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>>154422154
This is easily countered by the common strat of getting an A3 mage, Robe of the Armagi, and a Staff of Elemental Mastery from events all within the first year and using that to Army of Fog your main armies.
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>>154422154
>EQ x 2
>against B9
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War with bats has reinvigorated our economy and expansion and the Lizard Vanguard has taken bat cap. Removal seems imminent.

We salute Hinnom for their bravery in the face of bats.
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New player here. If I take an enemy cap can I recruit their sacreds?
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>>154397680
I'm surprised no one mentioned Vanarus.
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>>154423007
No.
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>>154423007
As a rule, you can't recruit enemy national troops at all.
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>>154423007
Only if it's summod therados.
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>>154423192
What happens to the sites?
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>>154423254
They give you gems, but that's it.
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One of your Masters of Irony believes that he 'gets' The Throne of Irony.
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Game: TheBiggestFattestMeme
Turn number 2
Next turn due: 17:46 GMT on Sunday September 11th

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
>Kailasa Waiting for 2h file
Machaka 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received
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>>154422840
Believe it or not it's going so easy for you because it's an absolute CLUSTERFUCK of bats in my shit.

He can't win and I'm catching armies here and there, but that's where his shit is just FYI
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>>154423910
>September 11th
Time to forcehost ALL my games!
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>>154422840
ALL HAIL THE BATSLAYER
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>>154397680
Are Storm Demons the most OP unit in Dominos? They shred anything and fly.
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ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems Caelum, are you here?
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>>154424343
Storm demons suffer a serious weakness vs correctly kitted thugs (as once shock res goes over 20, they are totally incapable of harming them).
Unlike Demon Knights, they can be shredded by repeat flames from the sky casts.

They're potent, especially for their price. But I tend to value Demon Knights, and at least W9B9 Ozzies at the same level.
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>>154424343
>it depends
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Dominions Illuminaty based shadowrun game when?

Someone said they might run it but never said anything else, so, everyone interested should probably check for poison twice daily.
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>>154424858
Literally have never done any kind of game like that, but would totally do it with you autists because it'll be hilarious.
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>>154425037
>>154424858
Live podcast
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>>154425270
Fools, then the illuminati will know where they are.
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>>154423665
this image makes me laugh and I know it shouldn't
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>>154425402
The game is played in the back of van as they constantly move to evade the illuminati. It quickly turns into very realistic LARP.
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>>154340979

Please don't take an N9 bless for MA Ulm. Take all scales, and then a rainbow or something, but MA Ulm is pretty much "lolnosacreds" the nation, beyond an incredibly meme-y priest smith strat.

F4, E2B2, S2E2, A4, F1D2 or any combinations of those are great paths on a pretender so you can make a couple of pretty key boosters for your mages or break you into additional magic paths.
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>>154423007
Think about how much that would encourage snowballing! You take 3 caps in midgame then it would be incredibly hard for anyone to stop you till deep late game.
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>>154425952

They are indeed lolnosacreds.

But N9 on Irminsul is dirt cheap, and they can make Shrouds of the Battle Saint for ONE PEARL.

Insert standard Bane meme here.
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I am trying to learn to play, started yesterday, any advice on which race and god to use, as well as which dominions and magic i should take for said race??
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>>154426474
See the responses to: >>154338217
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>>154389046

Yes.
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>>154425952
E6 on an awake snek or A4E4 on a dormant Titan are my most preferred methods.
Reinvig/Precision is quite nice on the priest smiths.
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>>154393454

Yes.
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>>154405232

sleeper with flying shoes/stymphalian wings.
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>>154410956

Temporary. Supposedly fixed cap, but it's in the thousands.
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>>154426674
That is me, actually, I was just looking for more advice tbqh.
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>>154426437

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I mean, sure. but you also really don't have any recruitable nature mages (beyond, granted, common as fuck indie) nor any good way to access any great thugs. In order to even get a golem you need to summon get an S2 smith somehow, and you completely lack national death access.
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>>154427451

Honestly, hard to give suggestions. If you find a couple nations you think are cool, ask for advice on those and we can provide, but "what should I play?" isn't easy to answer. Pangaea is generally fairly straightforward? In EA and MA, at least.
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>>154427982

S1 priest smiths can Arcane Probing and sitesearch. Worst case is 30 pearls empower up to S2, which gets you to S4, since they can then forge both boosters. Which gets you golems.

Not sure why N casters are relevant, but the lack of D is a fair point, when considering thugability.
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What if you COULD recruit other nations' capital units, but ONLY after "rebuilding" their shit which would cost like 5-10k gold or like their capital gem income times twenty or thirty or fifty and it gets removed whenever the cap gets captured
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>>154431641
>Whoever kills the elf becomes the elf

'no'
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>>154431641
There was a dom3 mod that allowed you to recruit some of their weaker nationals after taking their cap
Shouldn't be too hard to do.
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>>154433434
Look at me. I'm the elf now.
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>>154431641
Then it would still be amazingly overpowered in big games but uselessly weak in small ones, since it's a power boost that doesn't scale.
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Is the blitzserver site gone for good?
Whenever I try to go there, I get an error
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>>154434962
Moggers is into nationmodding now.
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What if there is another construction option that would grant 1 gem generation of a specific type you choose?

>500 gold, grants 1 gem per turn, can be demolished, max 1 per province (like labs and temples)
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>>154435459
>Resource generation is tied to province count even more, fucking over nations that fail to expand properly further
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>>154435459
>fucking over turmoil nations even more
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ded thred
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>>154437405
double ded
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>>154438279
>>154437405
go to bed you fucks
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>>154438954
Ded bed
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Wake up, /domg/!
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Live
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>>154422369
What's the original?
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So after casting Sabbath master I'm supposed to cast Reinvigoration with one of the masters and it'll transfer to everyone?
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>>154447063
It'll transfer to all the sabbath/communion slaves.

Masters are only affected by spells they cast.
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>>154393878
It was fun getting steamrolled by your tarts, i had no idea what i was doing. I should of attacked you way earlier but you were cool, i couldn't bring myself to do it.
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What should I cast with my N9 pretender at various stages of research?
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>>154449032
you should suck my dick with it

nature is a magic path for faggots and women
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>>154449305
Dick sucking your way to victory is a legitimate and good strat though.
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>>154449305
Say that to my horns fucker, not online, and see what happens.
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>>154449032
If you have a good N income like Pan, go for early Mother Oak. Then if you also have high death (like C'tis) go for GoH when you get tarts. Also for scaling summons if you really need them (aka if you're losing the war).
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>>154449032
mother oak alteration 5 is a staple.
pretty much all the nature globals are good in particular gifth of health and the echantment 9 shit that increase your income.

in combat eagle eyes (alteration 1) into massive sleep clouds ( evocation 3) are fucking scary, especially if you can afford a N booster and a magical penetration item.
at evocation 3 storm of thorn might be better against units with good MR or immune to sleep.

aside for that howl, mass regenen, mass protection are good, but only in their niche or if they don't fatigue you so much that you can't cast other spells( i am not sure but i think howl might still be around 100 fatigue at N9, which is a shame).
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Wait, so I can set transformed undisciplined animal commanders to cast spells in battle even though they're undisciplined?
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>>154449678
barbarian commander is undsciplined, yet obeys commands, right?
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>>154449583
OBVIOUS QUEER
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>>154449636
Around how many gems does Mother Oak give per turn? Should I go with cheap cast for maximum early profit in case no one can be bothered to dispel it, or expensive cast for long term gain?
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>>154449032
Nature has a lot of scaling summons. They aren't amazing, but more troops is always good.

Globals like Mother Oak/Gift of Health, obviously. Nature's Bounty is good but really deep in research.

In combat you don't have many options, but massive sleep clouds with the bonus penetration can do a lot of damage.

If you don't have recruitable nature mages you can summon treelords or ivy kings to go with your armies and buff them.

>>154449678
Undisciplined does nothing on commanders.
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>>154449821
I overcast Mother Oak with 200N during Oeridia 1

Shitty boars got BTFO as they continuously tried to out-do me :o)
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>>154449756
I dunno I never used him for anything other than fort construction.
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>>154449821
If you cast it early as Pan, no one will bother dispeling, especially if you have N9.
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>>154450109
How early is early?
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>>154450169
When you rush it, obviously. Your centaurs can do all the dirty work anyway. It's not like you need spells early-game.
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>>154449863
How does sleep clouds compare with stellar cascades?

How many should I aim to cast during a battle?
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>>154449305
Nature is brutal as fuck. If you were fooled by tree hugging, flower wearing hippies that's your problem.
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Does Weapons of Sharpness work on bows?
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>>154450169
When you go straight to Alteration 5 (with a detour to Const. 4 if you weren't lucky with randoms).
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Thank you for the intel Pelagia. I believe I have found the means to my comeback.
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Okay, so for Dragon Master, does that give +2 for summoning or x2? Like, if I summon wyverns, which summons 2, do I get 4 in total or 6?
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>>154451619
>Does this spell give me +2 or *2
>Example is 2 becoming either 4 or 6
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>>154452520
+2 or *3, I mean.
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>>154450650
>How does sleep clouds compare with stellar cascades?
Better stun damage, but smaller AoE and checks magic resist.

They're trickier to use than stellar cascades. Ideally you want to start casting them once the enemy is stuck in melee, since they last for a few turns.

Try to spread your casters out too, otherwise they tend to clump all their sleep clouds on the same place.

>How many should I aim to cast during a battle?
As many as you can? More spells is always better.

If you mean "how many will be sufficient to win a fight" that's hard to answer.
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>>154451619
It's +2
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>Hinnom has access to two AI nations provinces and capitals.
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>>154453431
Daily Reminder that I can't beat bats without more gold, only hold them in place.

Daily Reminder that I'm down to a single candle of Dom thanks to batfuckery
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Happy 9/11, everyone.
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>>154453431
>badmin went ai after all that

lmfao
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>>154453716
>He didn't rush the cap

wew
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>be at peace
>got some troops in a fort doing nothing
>decide to set them to patrol
>every single turn for 3 in a row they keep finding scouts from different nations

Even the forts niggas, really? Have some tact.
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You have 5 seconds to explain why you don't use interface mods.
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>>154454606
>not scouting every single province

It's like you don't even want to know your enemies.
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>>154455632
This is why I elf.
>>
Game: WorldPeace
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 23:13 GMT on Monday September 12th

Agartha 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
Pelagia 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received


It begins.
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>>154455878
Nice lineup. No cancer, (almost) no elves. Will be an interesting game.
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>>154455878
I hope Nazca knows how to use the master+slave matrice setup

I especially hope we get to see a Magic Duel gatling gun
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>>154456232
>Magic Duel gatling gun

Sounds terrible.
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Is N9D9 fine for LA Mictlan?
Also, do i put high dominion on my pretender for even more jaguar recruitment, or is it a waste since dominion spreads with sacrifices only?
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>>154456304
think magic duel, except your guy doesn't die if he loses, he just kills some supaya
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>>154456564
how?
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>>154456559
Not taking blood to re-enact the Mictlan return to blood magic
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>>154456859
Phoenix Pyre, I imagine
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>>154456859
Phoenix Pyre, Soul Vortex, and abusing Innate Spellcaster
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This DebugMode meme game gave me an idea. Why don't we organize Pretender tournament games?

>debug mode activated
>everyone starts with awake pretender
>nobody expands
>everyone has 6 or 12 turns at disposal to arm their pretender with whatever they can
>at turn 12 someone wishes for arena
>everyone send their pretender in
>winner of arena is designated winner of game

Would be hard to enforce the rules, but if everyone follows them it could be fun.
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>>154457869
>wish kill everyone elses pretenders before turn 12.
>still lose against someone who sent a geared sensei
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>>154457983
That's why I said it'd be hard to enforce, it would take self-regulation.

Just AI the guys being dicks and wish for your god back or priests or something.
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>>154458080
Maybe the game would be better with no debug mod and no rules besides: "Player that wins the first arena wins the game."
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>>154458248
I guess yeah.

In hindsight, there's a version of the debug mode restricted to a single nation. Perhaps the guy organizing the tournament can be the "debug guy" who will wish for arena in 12 turns, while sending to everyone the gems/gold/items they ask for with his S mages popping senseis every turn.

This way they also won't get access to all spells and won't be able to wish for power.
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If I have forge lord with dwarven hammer in province with steel ovens do I get free items if they cost 5 gems or does only go down to 1?
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>>154458746

It never goes below cost 1.
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Xibalba, you are trying to capture a province you agreed to let me.
The only reason I didn't take it before is because you told me you were letting me capture it, so I focused on other provinces first.

Stop trying to capture it, please, for it is ours.
>>
Best way to kill ethreal spooky goasts?
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>>154459408
Magic weapons.
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>>154459408
Banishment, evos, magic weapons. Almost everything to be honest.
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>>154422840
>>154423995

Aw you guys
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>>154459408
Blasty magic or troops with magic weapons. Ghosts with mr-negates weapons are pretty terrible against any decent troops, really.
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>>154459408

Most standard troops'll do it, if you can cast Antimagic.
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>tfw just started playing 1,5 months ago
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>>154422840
>the Lizard Vanguard has taken bat cap

You haven't take anything, you liar. You're also going to lose your pretender next turn.
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>>154459865
I dunno man...
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>>154459865
>>154459931
>not using sorting tools to automatically move turns and turn confirmations into their own subfolders sorted by game
Psh
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>>154391731

I can now.
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>>154459931
>>154459865
dominions email only
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>>154460132
>>154459931
>>154459865

Y'all need to set up filters for automatically organizing your shit.

Saves a lot of hassle.
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Pssst scrubs, want some fresh Der Gott graphs? Since Arco isn't all seeing anymore.
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>>154460680
>>
>Game: Kichikuo_Domg
>Turn number 4
>Next turn due: 16:13 GMT on Sunday September 11th
>>>Agartha Waiting for 2h file

>Game: RealmofRoaringScrubs
>Turn number 5
>Next turn due: 13:46 GMT on Sunday September 11th
>>>Agartha Waiting for 2h file

Come on, can't we do the first year at least in a decent pace during weekend? Hell, in case of RealmofRoaringScrubs, the timer is getting pretty low in general.
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>>154460882
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>>154461318
>>
>Game: GinnungagapREBIRTH

>Niefelheim Waiting for 2h file
>Hinnom Waiting for 2h file


reeeee giants do your turns
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>>154459865
Mine. But I started like 2 years back so it's not really impressive.

>>154460132
Lambert?

>>154459982
>>154460281
I keep my turns sorted locally, so I only ever need to look at the emails when they arrive.
>>
>>154461531
>tfw got two thrones near me in BiggestMeme and I'm burning with curiosity to find out what they are but it would fuck up my expansion

Soon...
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>>154461531
Mu's writing is amazing. It's a shame we don't have such great meme-modders here.
Or do we?
>>
>>154461547
>Thinking I'm organised enough to have a dominions email.
I'm sorry friend.
>>
Oceania will win the UWBOWL.
>>
Are crystal matrixes worth giving to get that round one buff off?
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>>154461908
Prod 3 MA Oceania is no joke. Mermidons are legit af
>>
>>154462031
Yes.
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>>154462031
yes, of course.
>>
>>154462031
Getting things off on turn 1 is very important, so yes.
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>>154461848
I have so much material that would make for awesome nation/flavor/lore mods I just lack the confidence to put it up publicly and the ability to actually mod.
>>
>>154462350
Dominions modding is extremely straightforward, at least if you don't try to create complex event chains or anything of that sort.
>>
So /v/ led me here. How do I Dominions 4? I mean, what are the must-haves, important things, etc.?
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>>154462350
Serriously give it a go, I've helped a couple of people here with mods, in terms of wrangling stuff from the modding code that isn't intended but is cool.
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>>154462568
>Must haves
Uh, the game, I don't understand the question.
>>
>>154462568
It's in the OP.


>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>DO bully Elves
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>>154462568
1. Read and play through the tutorial in the manual
2. Fuck around with nations that you like for any reason (nations like Early Age Caelum and Middle-Age C'tis are potent and fairly straightforward in midgame, but feel free to pick anything, although it's worth noting that some nations play unorthodox and don't help in forming general Dominions know-how, such as undead nations Asphidel, Middle Age Ermor and Lemuria) for as long as you like
3. Once you have an identified a nation you think is interesting, read some guides and/or ask for help designing a pretender for it
4. Join a mixed skill or newbie game
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>>154462668
>>154462893
Ah found it, thanks. Didn't realize the tutorial was to go with the manual.
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>>154462893
Oh, and before starting a multiplayer game, you probably want to practise expansion against the AI such that you can reliably get at least a modest amount of provinces (let's say 12 provinces during the first year).
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>>154460972
One hour left for Agartha to do their turn in RealmofRoaringScrubs. Come on!
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Ded
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Game: WorldPeace
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 23:13 GMT on Monday September 12th

Agartha 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
Pelagia 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received

Target acquired
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>>154458847
Bumping just in case you didn't read it, Xibalba.
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>>154455878
>>154456064
Pelagia here and I just want to say i'm this guy>>154376590 and that i have no idea what i'm doing. I probably should have asked you guys how to make a decent pretender cause i'm pretty sure mine is laughably bad.
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>>154466284
You are the only UW nation in the game so you are mostly safe. You are basically playing spectator mode with very little chance of actually making a difference. Don't piss off Agartha or Sceleria and you should survive till endgame. You might even pull off a win if all the land nations get tired of playing and quit.
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Coolstory come into the chat, I have stuff to talk about.
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Pythium, it would be super swell if you could do your turn in the next 40 minutes so I can at least see the new turn before I have to leave for the day.
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>>154460972
So, Agartha ended up not doing their turn. And since Kichikuo_Domg Agartha only has 2 hours left, it kinda feels like it's the same Agartha player.

Hopefully he at least comes back.
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>>154467549
>it's another Pythium may or may not stale episode
Boring season
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>>154466284
Robes of the sea (Construction 4, requires 3 water to make it, costs 15 water gems and fits in the body slot) allows aquatic commanders to go on land as well as providing +1 water magic. With your kings this allows high Water casting on land.

How much random tidbits do you want?
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>>154467653
I am back but I have to say i'm quite upset with the turnspam
I would say "My bad, I was really busy" but this faggotry won't allow it.
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>>154468342
I don't know about "turnspam", I must confess I sent a request for new turn once (I think that's a reasonable procedure since people are more likely to read their mail than this thread), if there was further requests then someone else got the same idea independently. If it turned out like that then sorry, but please do your turns in the future, it's still the first year for fuck's sake.

Anyway, glad to see we're not dealing with a quitter at least.
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>>154468579
Well, I had to delete 120 emails of turnspam and I really felt like going full-asshole mode and act like a spoiled brat but I got over it pretty soon
Had to deal with organization and work at a party at my dorm, things ended up being more time consuming than expected and didn't had the time to take my turn on Roaring and delayed Kichikuo quite a bit
But gotta say that next time shit like this happen I'll act a little worse than I did now. Not making empty threats for no reason or things like that but come on, I use that email for important stuff and that shit ain't no trashcan
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>>154468342
After seeing you staling in that Roaring scruns I sent you about 10 turns.
I would say it was so you saw I easier and you didnt stale again. But maybe i took it personal.

You see, people chainstaling and going AI for no reason is pretty common in here, and I thought that was the case.
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You make me sad, Pythium.
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>>154458847
>>154465791
What was your agreement?

The way I see it is letting someone else take a province isn't a free invitation to ignore it and expand elsewhere. It means I'm kindly going to point my expansion parties elsewhere so you get a chance at it. If you fail to take it promptly and I'm out of room to expand elsewhere, I'm going to grab it.

Of course, if you actually paid him for it that'd be different.
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Don't abuse llamaserver with turn resends you dumbfucks
If someone isn't going to do their turn year one sending dozens of emails isn't going to change anything except put more strain on llamaserver
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>>154469681
There were two provinces, and we agreed that he took one and I took the other one.

Then he took his, and the next turn he attacked the other one and got beaten by indies.
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>>154467761
That'll do thanks. I'm just going to trial and error stuff. Is there a way to naturally raise magic skill levels or only by equipping items?
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Game: WorldPeace
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 23:13 GMT on Monday September 12th

Agartha 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
Pelagia 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154469981
>inb4 43141613413251266312 turn resend requests
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>>154468875
>>154469851
>turn resend once
>got fired
>wife kicked me out of my house
>my car stopped working
>my parents' house catched fire and both of them died

I will never turn resend again, please Karma forgive me.
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>>154469930
If you have enough gems you can empower mages with them, but it's very expensive and not recommended if you can help it. Not to say that it's never worth it, though.
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>>154468875
>But gotta say that next time shit like this happen I'll act a little worse than I did now.
>Not making empty threats for no reason or things like that but come on

No, but you are making threats, needless to say they won't have any effect and you most likely made sure you'll get it done to you again when the memester that did it reads this.
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>>154470031
It's only what you deserve.
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>>154469557

Go fuck yourself
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>>154468875
Why signup if you are so busy you can't take a few minutes to take a turn in a damn game? You sound like a massive baby faggot with that last comment too. You act like deleting emails is a rigorous task or something, i'd hate to see what you do when you get a school assignment.
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I dunno why, but the latest version of summod is making prince generals into level 8 air mages for me.
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>>154470031

Once is fine.

Spamming it fucks the llama.

Do not fuck the llama.
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>>154470753
WE NEED TO KILL TC ASAP
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>>154470753
Spoonerism, #magicskill 8 1 is one level in the 8th path of magic (holy), #magicskill 1 8 is 8 levels in the 1st path of magic (air).
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>>154470753
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>>154468875
>playing Dominions on your main mail

But why?
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>>154470484
I'm don't live by any means a busy life. I just had this little incident and some faggots can't handle it without acting like a bunch of asshats
I play dom4 to have some fun and I have it when I play no matter how the game goes, but that kind of cunt move really pisses me off
Seriously? Spamming turn resend sounds like something that gonna make me more willing to play if I wasnt?
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>>154470753
The good news, however, is that they were on autocalc for cost and age, so they're age 95 costing 435 gold.
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>>154471042
gmail is easy to have filters to send all turns to their own little inbox division, so main mail or auxiliary mail only changes which button you click to go there.
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>>154470753
>>154470926
Commit 7a1060e5f207db16fe71f6cdef4e18af22fad1be , never forget.
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>>154468875
You're Kichikuo Agartha, right?
Enjoy some turnspam :^)
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>>154471296
If you're using gmail you can delete those 120 mails with two clicks since it just stacks identical messages.
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>>154470753
>only reputedly have divine powers
kek
I guess TC is a balanced nation now
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>>154471464
Yep. I'm not that guy, I was just pointing out my own habits as justified.
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>>154470926
This is like the poison golem all over again. Can we really accept our primary overhaul balance mod from someone who makes mistakes like this?
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>>154470753
wtf i want to play TC now
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>Send in turn
>Get staled anyway

What
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>>154470753
Lady and gentlemen, summod!

it's crap
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>>154471665
Do we really want to play games made by developers who leave bugs in them? If the games need bugtesting or a beta phase I say the developers aren't worthy desu
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>>154471857
>Bats AI

I didn't even get to backstab them before they went.
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>>154468875
I'm not even in that game, but 5 more turn resends for Gryffindor!
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>>154472109
Trust me I wouldn't have even felt your backstab over the pain of so many of my mages cucking me with dryads.
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>>154470753
Just kidding though. Keep up the good work on the mod.
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>>154459408
be friends with them
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It's possible to change the mod after the game's started on Llamaserver. E-mail llama and have him hot-swap that one line
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>>154473249
WHY CONTAIN IT
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>>154473249
I think it's possible, but if cost or movement values are different from mod used by the players, that's a recipe for problems.
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>>154474130
yeah, everyone would probably want to change their local copy too (in this case, just for TC to be able to afford the dude)
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>>154456064
>>154470753
I knew a game without cancer was too good to be true.
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You can avoid troubling Llama by unstarting, changing the mod to 0.69 (the same but with the two numbers swapped back) and then restarting
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>>154474435
Admin could you please do this?
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>>154474435
I'll have fixed version up after coffee. Be 10 minutes.
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Which nation has the fastest early research in LA?
I'm building a styrategy that requires rushing a level 9 research, but i'd like to optimize it by using the fastes research aviable early on, even if it means overheating later or useless mages after the research phase.
I was thinking about LA Ulm, but are they strong enough aside from their "RECRUIT EVERYWHERE" mages? Or are they shit aside from that strenght?
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>>154470406
>>154469557

S A L T

A

L

T
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>>154475054
https://github.com/sum1won/summod/releases/tag/0.68a
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>>154475884
I dare you to watch the next turns battle with sound on.
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>>154476031

Ragha pls go and stay go
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>>154475809
>rushing
>to level 9
If you want a strat revolving around lvl 9 research, choose an UW nation or Lemuria
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>>154475809
LA Ulm is more about rushing cascades and iron blizzard
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>>154476120
>Lemuria
Don't they have the slowest research in the game? I play without mods.
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>>154476091
_No_
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>>154476091
Don't worry Bog, I'm gonna give you a hand soon.
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>>154476905
To be fair, PD helped a fair bit.

To be unfair, attacking with no mages and less than 100 troops against Ermor's cap is stupid.
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>>154476905
>using archer mercenaries against skeletons
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>>154477061
Skeletons with armour and tower shields, when his own troops are light armoured and have no shields.
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>>154476905

BARBARIANS BTFO
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>>154476031
Will it involve elephants and blood slaves?
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>>154476905
>Fighting Ermor
>Not using any priests

Are you trying to lose?
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>>154476383
They're the best turtle in the game
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>>154477378
elephantstramplingonbloodslavesforever.mp3
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>>154477548
Well yeah, but they turtle until year 9000, while i wanted to know which nation can pull off the fastes level 9 spell rush.
Again, it's level 9, so it'd take still quite a bit, but i'm going for efficiency here.
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>>154477752
Probably Ragha or Xib then
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>20 people in a game
>18 of them are able to send it in the first 12 hours
>18 guys have to wait 12 more hours for 2 guys
>they excuse themselves saying "they have a life"
That kind of people is disgusting. I'm at the college at morning, come back at home to have lunch and then go in the afternoon for my half time job.
And still I get my turns on time, all of them in the first 50% of the time limit.

All of us have lives and all of us work or do stuff, dont be so selfish to think you are the only one who can move away from your computer.
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>>154477752
There's no such thing as rushing to level 9 in multiplayer. In singleplayer it doesn't really matter what nation you take since AI is shit anyway.

IMO your best bet is to take something that is strong without magic, like Ragha with a good bless. That way you can lean on your sacreds and regular troops more and you don't need to worry that your mages will likely not be as efficient when you're focusing on only one school the entire game.
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>>154477872
You forgot

>game is at turn below 5
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>>154477994
>There's no such thing as rushing to level 9 in multiplayer.
This. Getting to level 9 involves surviving to lategame.
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>Game: Kichikuo_Domg went out 2 and a half hours ago
> 10/14 guys send it already

Isn't this world sometimes awesome?
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>>154477994
>>154478191

>not taking magic scales and diploing your neighbors to stay away from you while you research to level 9

Scrubs.
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>>154477994
>Not taking a nation that can survive till lategame while putting all research into one school.
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>>154478670
>10 people now have to wait for 4 slow fuckups

Yup, awesome.
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>>154472109
Oh, bats AI'd?

Guess the games over and Pan wins then.
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>>154477872
I'm at one of the fucking top 20 engineering unis in the world in year 4 and I still do all my fucking turns, and I'm in 5 games. People need to learn fucking time management or something, fuck.
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>>154479857
Join a blitz if people taking three hours triggers you.
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>>154480060
They take 24 hours, not 3.
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>>154480217
>first turn
I think you mean 48 friend.
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>>154453431
Eh, there's a giant fucking elephant province between me and C'tis, and Ermor/Berytos/Machaka are all much closer to them (Ermor through the water, of all things).

I have 0 ambitions of actually grabbing C'tis. Ur, on the other hand, yes. Especially if it actually *was* the badmin. But I don't see people talking about Vanheim's free Niefel, or probably Berry's free C'tis.
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>>154469875
I assumed you didn't want it, given you moved all of your expansion parties somewhere else.

>>154469681
He did not pay me for it. He told me "he really wanted it" and then ignored it for the next three turns and asked me to fight ermor for him.
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>>154480060
People taking hours to play turns when playing them takes 30 s. does not bode well for when they will actually have to script mages.
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Ok that's it, how do I enable legacy captcha outside of quick reply?
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>>154480370
I had some issues in my other borders. Let's say some heavy cavalry managed to shred my guys.
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>>154480370
>asked to fight ermor for him
You literally told me this:
>So I'm obviously hosed if I can't go through either you or skeletons. Want to help with removal?
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So whats going on with the worldpeace game? Is it being restarted?
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>>154480957
We need to restart unless you want to deal with this >>154472770
>>154470753
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>>154481187
So are we just waiting on the admin?
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>>154481249
Yes
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>>154480812
To which you told me that you needed time. You're demanding that I cede indy provinces between the two of us so that you can expand more elsewhere, and then asking me to fight skeletons while you "recover forces" lost expanding elsewhere. How dumb do you think I am?
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Which nation allows me to play as a crazy gnome wizard which creates constructs like golems/gargoyles/iron-dragons/crossbreeds/winged-monkeys and sends them out to do his bidding?

Or, simpler question, which nations have great Earth-gem income and good research as well?
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>>154481874

Ulm
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>>154481874

MA Agartha

Be a sad race that summons statues of its own race because they are so lonely and also necromantically raise their friends from the dead oh god what am I doing with my life
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Does Polymorph only transform enemy units like in the description or do I have to be afraid of friendly fire?
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>>154480416
I take hours to take turns and win games. The two are unrelated. I have a two or three hour window in which I can take turns. Sometimes they get taken in the last hour of the game, sometimes in the first.

Also, the post i was replying to was bitching about people who took 3 hours to take their turn, not people who waited until the last second.
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As tedious as late game Dominos can be, throne grabbing is so much fun. But that feeling when you put your opponents in checkmate and just have to wait for the turn to process is so stressful.
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This is how you remove Ermor, not some mercs with arrows.

Agartha I swear to god if you're going to be a bitch you're going to get hit like one.
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>>154481563
You are clearly taking me for other.
If you read clearly this message, you can see that I told you to avoid fighting Ermor and try to get the throne, to go that way instead of attacking either Ermor or me.

I told you to attack INDIES, not NATIONS.


Anyway forgetting all of this memery, how about letting me the province we accorded to let me?
If you are really that much of a jew, I could pay you some gold to pay for the bats you lost while trying to clear the indies.
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>>154483078
I'm retarded and forgot the image, sorry.
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>>154483078
Yeah, you told me to try taking the level 3 throne turn 10 instead of taking an indie province you wanted. How generous of you.

Look, I'm going to take that indie province. If you want to start a war over it with a nation that you can't get to thanks to a fat lake, that's your problem. I'm fucked in this game anyways, so what do I have to lose?
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>>154483004
Trying to throne grab as a nation without mobile H3's is twice the suffering though.
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>>154483339
Oh dear. Do you see i'm connected to your land? There is no need to swim through that lake in any case.

You clearly aren't very good at diplomacy, but I'll keep trying.
I'm sending you 250 gold this turn, and you will stay a good neighbour and avoid a war against a nation with heavy infantry and access to Storm.

Okay?
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How is LA Ulm in power-tiers?
Some say it's utter shit, others say it's OP as fuck.
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>>154483614
It has trouble early game but then snowballs like crazy.

I'd say high tier overall but also top priority for early game removal.
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>>154483614
Its biggest strength is that it has a very strong midgame (Cascades, IB->Vampires with raise dead and shadowblast), and hits it pretty quickly.

It has a little trouble with late game, since it needs to design a pretender in order to get vampires, and it has inefficient bloodhunting until it gets a critical mass of vampires.
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>>154483614
They have major strengths such as the fastest research in any age (not the most cost-efficient so if you had very difficult research game with research victory, they'd be middle of the pack, but they can reach midgame targets around research level 6 faster than anyone else) and good pyramid scheme for blood through their national vampire summons but people are afraid of Ulm for this very reason and they're a top priority removal target, and an easy target compared to the likes of Ermor and such like. Their endgame isn't that great either, the strength of the nation is getting to mid-lategame faster than anyone else.

Ulm is a high tier or top tier nation if looking at their power in a vacuum, but at least in our meta they're rather average.
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>>154483596
Gold sounds like a much better deal than your prior position of
>all this shit is mine
>you can get the shit next to ermor
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Guys, I've run into an issue. I'm recruiting Aboleths in all 50-60ish of my forts, and I still have 19k gold in the bank.

What do?
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>>154484696
Its a memegame, right?
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>>154422840

Better move the rest of that army if you want to keep it. Maybe if you're lucky I'll kill the Sauromancer not leading your skellies.
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>>154484696
Gib gold pls squid friend
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>>154485019
I don't know who you are.

But I am interested in purchasing gems, for let's say, 80 gold per gem. And 30 gold per blood slave.
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>>154473314
I love this pic so much
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>>154483061

What? What have I done?
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>>154485147
kidding, I don't need much gold, even if I'm not rich like you. And no gems for you, you already have too much.
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>>154485341
My cap circle.
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>>154485460

Oh wait, wrong game. Thought we were talkinga bout MAdden. Nevermind, the Agartha in your game is no doubt a raging faggot
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>>154484513
Great. We have a deal then, right? Sending it right now.
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>>154476905
>>154483061
Wait, are you fuckers from the MAdden game? Couldn't you have picked a better name, I had no idea until I saw the map and corresponding troops/situations.
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>>154485341
Join the war effort dogg.
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Ys can we chat?

Also Blog you also wanted to talk, I am available now.
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>>154485397
>already have too much.

Nonsense, I can't even overcast Nexus by 1000 yet.
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>>154486270
You can't do that anyway.
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>>154485717

Nah dog they are from this game http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=JustMAgame

Similar map, but its a bit different. Probably from the same artist. Confused the fuck out of me too
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Best way to recall your god that you stupidly got killed during expansion?

Build a temple and start calling him with indie priests? How many will I need?
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>>154484696
>>154485147
>>154486270
I hope my generous donation helped, friend.
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>>154487479
It's some formula like you get 1 point per priest level per praying priest, and if you hit X points your god returns. I don't know what number X is though.
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>>154488042
I think it's between 40 and 60.
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>>154488042
pretty sure it was 50 H points
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>>154483061
Uh, sorry. It got a bit too warm so I had to go through that province. Leaving it with 1 PD now.
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>>154487479
Play Ur.
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so.... summod .67 then?
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>>154327902
So, I have played a couple games and I always mess it up badly, I think it has to do with the starting choices I make when creating my pretender...

Is it better to stick to 1 or 2 paths of magic and level them to a decent number like 8 and 4 or is it better to spread out and learn several paths of magic based on the ones your race can use?

I try to place 8 in dominion, a couple in productivity and 1 in growth usually.

I dont really understand how these choices affect my gameplay during the long run.
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>>154490331
There's 0.68a
https://github.com/sum1won/summod/releases/tag/0.68a
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>>154490358
IT DEPENDS

In general it's better to focus your magic in 1 or 2 paths, but spreading out your magic (which is called a "rainbow pretender") can be viable depending on your nation and the pretender chassis you pick.

Which scales you pick also depends heavily on what nation you're playing. Some nations want a bit of Productivity while others can use it as a dump scale. Growth is always good though, unless you're playing a popkill nation like MA Ermor or LA Lemuria.

There are some general pretender design guides (try Google), so I suggest you look up those and come back if you have more specific questions.
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>>154490358
For me the best way to learn a nation is to use imprisoned pretender on the first try. This way after playing I can figure out what I'm lacking exactly, what scales are useless and what I could use the pretender to compensate for.(For example on a certain bless nation I've realized that production is not all that useful because I'll be mostly using summoned sacreds or cap-only ones, who are more limited by Dominion than res cost. On the other hand the mages are very expensive so I could definitely use more gold, etc.)

If the nation is bless-nation I go imprisoned with 1 major bless and one minor, if it's non-bless nation I go imprisoned with just a bit of magic and mostly scales. Also 6 points in dominion is considered the average/standard, from which you deviate depending on your needs.

Reading guides also helps because most of the time people will explain the "problems" of a nation and what you should pick and why.
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>>154490763
Thx, will do that.
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>>154490763
>>154490949

For beginners I would highly recommend an awake Earth serpent. Basically guarantees a decent expansion and a E4/E6 caster is nothing to scoff at. It is also a welcome addition when being rushed.

Another beginner-friendly method is picking a good bless nation and a strong bless. This way you can lean on your sacreds to carry you into the midgame. Heck, I'm pretty sure I'm winning a game where on turn 40+ my highest magic school is construction 6.
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Alright, the game now requires the new version of summod
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Are there any spells that help a defending fort? (Not mine)
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>>154492138
You could try casting offensive overland spells at the sieging army. Other than that, I don't think so.
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>>154492138
>>154492246
If it's not yours, then just stuff that bothers the army on that fort will help - ranged evo, bane venoms, leprosy, etc
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>>154492763
>bane venoms, leprosy
Don't these hurt the guys inside as well?
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>>154492138
There's a few that are just 'make the walls really hard to breach'.
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>>154492810
Not if you're Lemuria they don't
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>>154492901
They require that it be his, though

>>154492810
Oddly, no. BVCs damage the province, but the only troops that get sick are the ones outside
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>>154491557
inb4 Pangaea still won't submit a turn in the first 24 hours
>>
Any PBEMs currently recruiting?
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>Another game where Pangaea is a shitter playing two nations

Is this just a single guy picking Pangaea + another nation in a bunch of games just so he can LOL XDDD MEME XDDD?

It's pretty sickening.
>>
>>154493445
Which one is it this time, and do you have anything to back up your claim?
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>>154493445

Do you accuse everyone better than you for double-nation?
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Okay, Mari, now this is just downright embarrassing.
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>>154493841
>MemeOfTheAges
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>>154495248
RoS? Arrow Fend?
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>>154495248
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>>154493445
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>>154495416
Better.

Pillar of Fire, Raise Dead, Stellar Cascades, Magma Bolts, and a bunch of other random evos.
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>>154495691
Huh. I'm just surprised that none of your shit died
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>>154495808
>your shit
>your
Mari is fighting AI atlantis for like 20 turns now.
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>>154495865
Oh.

Well that is embarrassing.
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>>154497475
That's a big bully.
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>>154497475
>Grab and swallow can only be used against smaller targets.
>Against smaller targets it has trample
>So it will neer grab and swallow
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>>154484850
5B5D fucking lol
>>
ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems Niefelheim, are you here?
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>>154500114
Yea I'll pop into chat.
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>>154500329
No need.
Just a head's up that I'm Agartha, and that province 29 is in my cap ring, so I'm going to take it.
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>>154500528
Thanks for the heads up, I'll stay north of that then.
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>>154500008

E3 lel
>>
Hey Pythium, I'm doing this as a friendly reminder that you didnt send your turn yet.

It woudl be awesome having new turn before going to sleep.

*unzips resend turn button*
>>
>>154501718

Remember. Just once.

When you fuck the llama, you fuck the llama for everyone.
>>
>>154501718

Jesus christ stop it, before llama bans 4chan from using his tool
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<your mom joke>

<AIDS joke>

<pretender design joke>

<pan is a joke joke>
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I personally support and encourage spamming slow faggots with turn resends. After the 16h mark, there really is no reason for you to not have taken your turn.

>b-but muh job i have to make shekels for my boss

I don't give two shits about your wageslavery.
>>
>>154501718
It's been literally 8 hours since the last turn went out. Grow the fuck up.

>>154502775
You too.
>>
How do I grow the balls to try multiplayer guys? I am so worried of embarrassing myself by losing before the first year is out.
>>
>>154504270
You'll most certainly embarrass yourself. Just join a game, you pussy.
>>
>>154504270
Either man up and accept that you'll lose 80% of your games until you git gud anyway, or try to arrange a newbie game (which you'll probably still lose).
>>
>>154504270
/domg/ is full of scrubs. Some guys have been playing for years and never won a game.

Just deal with it.
>>
>>154504525
Dominions is not about being skilled, it's about being less shit than your neighbors and not staling
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>>154504270
You're anonymous - no one cares you scrub out.

A game I'm in my opponents were not much more than speedbumps... Just have a good magic plan and don't be afraid to be aggressive. Sitting on your ass and researching will not win you games. Try to time your assaults with important research goals.

Like with C'tis you might want to go gung ho with Foul Vapours + Skelespam, and you DEFINITELY want to deploy with skelespam + Rigor Mortis.

Ask plenty of questions, like "How do I play X nation" to get some pointers.
>>
>>154505775
Ad.

Plan your expansion in Singleplayer. Pick a large map and play against 1 AI. If you can hit 15 provs by early spring year 2 your build is good. If you can't consider an awake and try again.
>>
Does magic duel only factor in the mage's innate skill or combat boosts too?
I boosted my s2 mage to s9 in battle with pots, hell power, and communion but he still lost magic duel to an s5 mage.
>>
What's the most you've ever gotten in expansion testing with 1 year? I know that EA Bats and EA.MA Pan can both get to ~50 on Hexawyr, and probably more if you chart where you're going to go ahead of time.
>>
>>154506087
Innate level only. Empowerment counts, boosters (spell or item) do not
>>
>>154506087
Only core S skill is counted. If you have S4 on a dragon, an it's changed shape to its dragon form (that halves all magic skill), it still counts as S4. Booster don't count, and so are Power of the Spheres and other increases besides empowering.
>>
>>154506325
>that halves all magic skill
Actually it's -x (usually 2)
>>
>>154506097
In single player games with optimum settings, I usually get 40+
In practice, I'm lucky if I get 12
>>
>>154504270
I just recently joined my first game, and now I'm in four. It's fun.
My only goal is to not be the first player to get knocked out.
>>
>>154506627
I once beat my expansion testing in a real game
>>
>>154506838
you need to take L3 irl to get that
>>
How the fuck does holy magic work anyway, lore-wise?
>>
>>154480573
Click the arrow in a circle button you dunce.
>>
>>154507369
It's 100% bullshit.
>>
>>154506838
Starting on Latus Blood Plane doesn't count
>>
>>15450736
It evokes a combination of natural laws (undead and demons don't belong in this world, gods are superior than mortals) and whatever the nation believes is sacred.
>>
Does a communion master using reinvigoration reset all slave fatigue to zero or is actually a value that is split amongst them?
>>
>>154507369
According the the flavor text it's directly related to how much religious authority a priest has. Beyond tha', it's anyone's guess. I suppose it's magic powered by belief or something like that, which is why there are no holy gems.
>>
>>154507779
Yes
>>
>>154507779
No
>>
>>154507779
Maybe
>>
>>154507779
I don't know, test it?
>>
>>154508041
YOURE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
>>
>>154508041
You ruined everything.
>>
>>154507369
>it's supposed to represent religious authority and closeness to the pretender
>pretender can't do holy magic
>>
>>154508273
really makes you think
>>
Maybe it's based on belief, and pretenders all know that they're not literally gods
>>
>>154508426
huh made me think
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>almost year 3
>Misfortune event destroys my only lab

Shaping up to be a real stellar game for me. Pic unrelated.
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>>154508682
>year 3
>one lab
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>>154508124
I'll show you who's Pantokrator of this gym
>>
>>154508812
Yeah it's shit let me tell ya
>>
Setting Ermor AI.

God help you all.


If anyone wants to sub for:
Vanheim
Asphodel
Marignon
Man
Ulm

post your e-mails.
>>
>>154509278
Fuck you coolstory
>>
>>154491385
Just won my first game using your suggestion, good advice!
>>
>>154509374
You had one job.

ONE JOB
>>
>>154509425
Being a fucking sub with no forces at all and no expansion was GREAT, it's not like I had nothing to fucking work with and as soon as I get SOMETHING to fight you quit.
>>
>>154509565
That's what players wanted. At least now you can properly backstab each other. As if you weren't doing that already.
>>
>>154509694
I landed on one Pangaean army, ONE.
>>
Is there a chart or some place where I can check how hard it is for an affliction to be cured? Like usually limp or chests wounds usually are gone after 1 turn with even a healer (1) guy in the province. But things like feeblemind and missing limbs ive had several Arco priestesses in the prov and still have them with it.
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if i tell a hiding unit to attack and a nearby unit to sneak and attack the same province, will they attack at the same time?
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>>154501718
Really?
>>
So, one of my castles is under siege, but I have an army in a nearby province.
If I order the guys in the fortress to break the siege, and the army to move in on the same turn, will there be one or two battles?
>>
>there's actually a general for this game

Well, fuck me sideways. This might help me learn this shit, hopefully.
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>>154513045
One battle with both armies.
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>>154512841
Also
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>>154513237
Thanks, Anon.
>>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH_6iFYiryY
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>>154512841
>10:29 am
>7:39 pm resends

This is going a bit far.
>>
>>154513558
Basically in the domg dnd game both the ulmish smith and c'tisian reborn tried to enter an illegal skeleton boxing ring in a not-yet-scelerian army camp.
The Ulmish Smith made SORDGOLM, an inanimate hunk of reject scraps of metal.
The Reborn had a newly raised skeleton soulless.
The result was the Smith hurled the GOLM onto the soulless, pinning it till it managed to via overcharging push it and it's own arms off, then lost it's leg trying to kick the fallen over golem then tripped over it.

And that was the theme song for this fight.
>>
How do I mitigate mind blast spam?
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Update for anyone interested in the happenings of Nagot_gick_fel

Basically tl;dr is Bats chose to raid me instead of defending (you can turtle in your cap and stack massive amounts of freespawn beast bats, fyi)

I mean it's annoying I guess, but every Xibalba player I've seen that gets attacked sits in their cap and then explodes out with hundreds of beast bats and is back in the game, if you don't want to try it this time if you try Bats in another EA game it actually works pretty well. Get those Onaqui out and take a B9 for the bats my boy, it's srs
>>
>>154514364
>>154514364
>>154514364
>>
>>154514502
>in a not-yet-scelerian army camp
We really need to find a way to make them into Pythium instead of Sceleria.
>>
>>154514558
You don't.
Sincerely, Not-Squidman.
>>
>>154514558
Antimagic, outnumber the mindblasters, fire archers.
>>
So, I started playing yesterday and am enjoying the game very much, but im confused as to what would benefit each race, could someone give me tips on what kind of god, magic and scales I would need to play with arcoscephale, the first race in the list?
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