/poeg/ - Path of Exile General

nth for rivaling soda in hc deaths

>>154513253
I'm new here, what is this meme?

>>154513278
No one knows

>>154513278
resident "depressed" anime poster has to let everyone know he's depressed and still alive

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>>154451634
>Free
>>154452804
>FREE
>>154452915
>FREE
>>154456087
>free
>>154463492
>free
>>154488825
>free

Is the shaper talking shit in the beginning of a map an indicator of anything? I'm doing T6s and only found one Shaper's Orb, and saw the boss 2 times.

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Is there an ETA for the new skills introduction?

>>154514610
it's a description for each map you visit for the first time

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>spectral spirits 5l
>94.5 avg dmg

>>154514610
nope, just a guaranteed scripted event before you can do the memory fragments challenge
>>154514612
nope, stop posting sluts

>2 exalt drops this league and some 30 chaos
>can actually afford to buy equips, got a shiny new 5L high-base armor and put the 100 life essence onto it


:3

>>154515124
congrats anon

>>154515124
Fuck off retard

I've been playing since launch and I have not one fucking exalted, fuck you

>>154515851
you don't play enough then

>>154515851
I got an exalt drop on my second season playing.

I think you just need to git gud m8

>>154513091
>>154513421
Hi guys, WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW here, I made a video for you guys!


https://vid.me/yjK6

>>154516448
fuck off

>>154513403
New UNIX filename, different person.

>>154516808
a baseless assumption

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>>154516808

>>154516895
No. The original person has the 2015 (143) filename since he's been posting that same imas girl from last year.
See >>154517265

>someone wants to buy my wanderlust for 3c
>puts 2c in trade window and clicks accept
did you REALLY think you could jew a jewish master for 1c?

I haven't played since before Ascendancy. It used to be ~20 chaos = 1 exalt for a long time.

Why is it now 50:1? And why are Fusions and GCPs so cheap now?

>>154517767
because it depends on how useful they are as crafting materials

uber lab has also had an effect on the economy by giving players a new way to get cheap 6Ls and quality gems, devaluing fuses and gcps

>>154517767
Lots of new mechanics, vendor recipes and changes to old mechanics. I recommend just reading the major patch notes for each league since 2.0.0.

In general, it's a billion times easier to cheat items to be better now than way back in 1.0.0.

>>154517767
>shitcrow cries about his bloated economy

lol

>>154517767
6Ls on decent items used to be the holy grail. Now they're common, even on temp leagues.

>>154518738
http://poe.trade/search/imimoomaharuma
>1 exalted the cheapest one
>common

>>154518961
1 ex is super cheap. That used to be the price for a 5L. Hell, fucking Tabula Rasa used to be more than 1 ex.

You know that vendor recipe, 1500 fusings for a 6L? That wasn't too far off from how shit used to be. And that was when fusings were worth more.

>>154518961
That's super super super cheap for a 6L. You probably didn't play prior to 2.2.

Can you not complete the atlas bonus on maps you've bought from other players?

>>154519632
Never mind. Apparently Grotto has two separate boss rooms.

>>154519392
lol nobody did

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>Birthday today
>This drops
Based ggg, thanks for the present

>>154520143
happy bday

>>154520143
>5hsmBcU
reddit crossposter detected.

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Help me out here:
ED Occultist or Trickster? ES or Life based?

>>154520507
either
either

>>154520376
I put it on imgur to link to a friend on steam, never been to leddit m8.
>>154520245
Thanks anon

>kill cruel kaom
>a t1 map drops
wtf ggg

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Is there any way to abuse this prophecy to get a desired gem?

>>154520768
https://pomf.cat

Far superior.

>>154521039
no

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>tfw you have a dream of a mob with volatile + proximity shield

>>154522148
You can pierce proximity shield and DoT builds would still laugh at it

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Why can't I buy some gems with a specific class? Am I supposed to pay for shit you can get for free with a different character? Can anyone gift me a Haste gem?

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>>154520507
Scion with Occ+Deadeye CI or hybrid

>>154522594
just level another character lol
it doesn't take that long.
You can do scion for efficiency

>>154522594
>Why can't I buy some gems with a specific class?
Class identity
>Why can't my Marauder buy Split Arrow or Freezing Pulse??

What is the state of melee right now?

I kind of feel like making some kind of staff-wielding Templar

>>154523172
Could be stronger but it depends on what you mean by "melee"

>>154523172
stronger than ranged for end game content desu
take a look at guardian fights if you don't believe me

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>>154523172
it's fine as long as you're using a pseudo-melee skill like EQ or reave or war totems

merciless oak over skill point if your only source of phys mitigation is 3 endurance charges? yes or no?

>>154523361

i mean like a more traditional melee with skills like sweep or one of the newer skills (which i haven't tried at all)

honestly I haven't played melee since the original implemention of Avatar of Fire was FOTM which was like still during the beta

>>154523908
pseudo-melee like cyclone or sweep doesn't really work anymore
ranged-melee like earthquake, lacerate or reave is king now

>Level 81
>4600 hp
>fortify
>walk into phanasmagoria boss room
>one shot while granite and evasion flask running
Tier 4 (four) map

>>154524057
damage mods? you sound full of shit

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>>154523908
shield charge then.

sweep and a bunch of the other more "traditional" melee skills got a buff in damage, but since monster health in the map tiers you will be running the most was also buffed it ends up being a net nerf

>>154524057
Did you take the triple ball hit or did she only spit one?

I am full eva and one took 2k of my 4k life but then again it was an unidentified map. Used decoy totem and gunned her down, never doing her again though

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>>154523908
>no vaccum
>no laguna blade
>no black hole
>no anchor smash
>no bristle back
>no reality rift
>no chaotic offering
>no counter helix
>no dual breath
>no dragon form
>no fatal bonds
>no fiery soul
>no firefly
>no fissure
>no focus fire
>no ghost ship
>no geminate attack
>no haunt
>no ice blast
>no illuminate
>no impetus
>no infest
>no maledict
>no meat hook
>no mass serpant ward
>no moon glave
>no multicast
>no omnislash
>no phase shift
>no plasma field
>no powershot
>no poof
>no psi blades
>no purification
>no replicate
>no shackle shot
>no shadow wave
>no shallow grave
>no shape shift
>no shuriken toss
>no sleight of Fist
>no scream of pain
>no spell steal
>no spirits
>no summon familliars
>no thunder gods wrath
>no toss
>no wave of terror

>>154524810
hidden and ignored

>>154524057

Is that room still laggy as shit?

>mfw no face when walking in there for the first time and thought my computer was kill

Haven't been back in there since.

>>154524810
dumb dotard

Hey guys I just had the stupidest build idea.

Max Block Gladiator KB wander.

http://poeurl.com/LT6

I want to utilize those sweet bleedsplosions but melee is so shit.

>>154525293
why would you need max block as a ranged character

>>154525593
You can't always stay out of range of everything and not get hit by any projectiles or spells.

>>154524810
they really should add more skills that make support be more than being an aura whore

>>154524137
If I were full of shit my char would be alive faggot

>cursing out ISP in chat box
>usually curse them out
>curse words automatically deleted

wat do

>>154524810
>Cast haunt
>Server crashes

Thanks GGG

i want more trigger gems or reworks of gems or just more, way more notables.
something like hits have a chance to instantly repeat like echo.
blocking has a chance to reflect the blocked damage amplified.
projectiles home in on enemies.
dealing a certain amount of damage to an enemy does something special or buffs you.
having a summon that is a copy of whatever you killed last or whatever its attacking.
having more non minion specific summons is also a great idea like maybe a crow that sometimes copies a ranged attack or a wolf that maybe gets your attackskill.

gameplay content-wise has been really treated badly these last few leagues.

>>154526284
Obviously bypass their filter substituting characters that look like the letters.

>>154526073
poedb
.tw/us/mon.php?n=Erythrophagia
>MonsterMortar Deals 1288 to 1932 Physical Damage

there's no way you get one shot, even assuming highest damage, even assuming a crit, with a granite and fortify up

at most it would hit you for ~3k

did you stand in the vulnerability circle like a moron without curse immunity?
did you run the map with monster/boss damage?
then you're a retard and deserved to die

>>154526760
>dealing a certain amount of damage to an enemy does something special or buffs you.

shredding armor and resists is what i always wanted. imagine every attack removing some armor or magic resist from so youd ramp up in longer fights.

I have 200 chaos
What build can i make using all of them?

>>154526760
>having a summon that is a copy of whatever you killed last
Dominating blow???

Nah, I wanted to run out of T7s. Then T6s. I actually wanted to go back to white maps. Thanks GGG.

>>154527817
WI

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Is there a reason for PoE not to take more inspiration from Dota for abilities?

>>154527817
bv with vinktar's

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>easier than ever to reach red maps
>nooblords still stuck at t6s

>>154527873
i missexplained that.
i meant to say one summon that changes its properties on the fly.
that be a cool thing in my opinion.

>>154528041
one is a hardcore arpg with unrivaled complexity

the other is a casual moba where you play "heroes" with predetermined builds

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>>154528041
I want TA and scion to take turns farting on my dick

>>154528174
im bad and ive never reached merciless

>>154528174
>reaching red maps means you can sustain them
I ran a t14 this league, does this mean my map pool is now t14 on average? kill yourself you fucking retard.

>>154528234
(You)

>>154528234
>hold left click by yourself in a controlled enviornment
"hard core"
>hold left click while getting raped by some dude and trying to coordinate with 4 other assholes
"casual"

im dont play dota anymore but youre retarded

>>154528470
thanks, I'll be sure to take your casual opinion with great consideration

>>154528041
assfaggots can leave

>>154528398
>this mad

kek

you should be able to sustain t14s if you are rolling them correctly

git gud

>>154528102
>>154527962
How can people play Blade Vortex and not want to kill themselves?

>have 6 monstrous treasures
>cant even get past t10 due to NO DROPS
what do i just want into red maps so i can bank on cartos and divination boxes

>>154528651
>this retarded

'reaching' and 'sustaining 'are not the same
otherwise top 50 players would be running nothing but t16s since day 4

words matter, learn proper english you mongrel

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>>154528761
Because BV is fun, fampai~

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>>154528910

>>154529007
you're also objectively wrong since you no longer have +2 map drops on maps you haven't unlocked

meaning progression is factually, objectively, unarguably harder now and reaching red maps is a longer process

you wouldn't know because you buy your maps like a good little cuck

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>>154529124
>calling someone that can afford maps a cuck
>being that mad about it

>>154529260
anyone can buy and "reach" maps

sustaining them is a different matter

why should I be mad someone's to retarded to understand the difference

>>154528942
It's more fun to suck cocks to be honest

what if this game were fun?

>>154520507
I played a ED curse bot build that was quite affordable and fun to play, but it's really slow on bosses and magic mobs as well as being shitty playing in parties.

Give me a Tier S clear speed build that can just off screen all these new bosses.

>>154530893
Memeblast crit totems

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>>154529412
i didn't buy any maps though and i'm firmly into t13s and higher

>>154531026
should have used the word sustain instead of reach then

sorry you're too retarded to communicate properly

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1731544

>>154530849
>and magic mobs
Were you able to kill them on 1 cast?

>tfw semi-nifty item drops but you ran out of orbs of fusing

https://youtu.be/mDcJdMVoTzk

The sexual tension is real.

>>154526760
Honestly, for all the "options" the passive tree has, it's pretty shit as far as builds go. With the exception of keystones (of which most builds will use 0-3), and a handful of notables, it's nothing more than "path to whatever life/es and relevant damage nodes are closest," giving nothing but bigger numbers.

I wish that the notable in pretty much every node cluster had some minor unique effect to it, like Dirty Fighting or a few others already do. There should be a reason to travel to a specific cluster for its effect, not just take whatever gives the most damage or life per point expended to travel to and take it.

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Guys, how do i price shit? For uniques I just go for poe.trade. But what about rares? Also, are there any other 'tricks' to making currency like getting high [lower mana cost] stuff from Elreon to resell?

>>154532496
damn, that karui girl is hot

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>on merciless
>haven't seen a single chaos orb drop
>drop a 30c flask
>open a diviner's and get ez more 20c
>still no chaos drop

>>154532604
HEALING
kys

>>154529124
>>154529412
Stop spacing your posts you offsite scum.

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just wasted all my currency to keep the league challenging

it's sad the game has come to this

>>154532931
>RNG is the challenge
?

Link char or get out.

>>154523902
>only source of phys mitigation is 3 endurance charges

Caw

>>154532687
stop trying to police how people type on 4chan, you pretentious fuck

>>154532992
>could afford good items
>now i can't

>>154533027
check the builds of the top 50 players in ehc and see how many of them are stacking armour :)

>>154532931
How many Shaper kills so far, mate?

>>154533163
>armour is the only form of phys mitigation

Caw.

>>154533163
underrated post

>>154533486
>samefagging

>>154533368
I'm not listing things everyone can use, such as flasks or a chaos golem, only the main variable (stacking armour or not, having X end charges) between builds you autistic little twerp

Just chanced a skyforth what build should I make with all my new currency

>>154533058
certain builds are non-existent because of specific items anon

>>154533554
>what is evasion
>what is es
>what is block

There's more than just armour and endurance charges for phys mitigation, shitcrow.

>>154533587
c-can I have it

oh my god please ;_;

>>154533781
none of those are phys mitigation lmfao
fucking retard

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>witch of the cauldron

>>154533587
Why the fuck is this shit so expensive?

>>154533862
Block and evasion are definitely phys mitigation, shitcrow.

>>154533920
stun pseudo immunity
pcoc pseudo 7l
reduced mana reservation
it's like adding 20 skill points to your build for one item slot

>>154533862
immortal call is the best form of phys mitigation

>>154534002
no they're phys avoidance if you're building around it then you're obviously not part of the question "should I add another end charge to my 3 or would a skill point be more useful"

fuck off if you don't know the answer to the question, don't try to bring this into another irrelevant subject

>>154534053
Thanks for the explanation. What items would you say are worth chancing in this patch?

>>154534153
Skyforth is definitely the best bang for your buck ı am pretty sure since it's not only one of the most expensive uniques barring league specific shit, it also is on the highest pure es boots base, so you will get a sellable rare or two every now and then.

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>just get skyforths! it's so easy!

>>154534153
skyforth
cospri's will
heretic's veil

that's about it i'd say
rest is a waste of your chances

>>154534141
Phys mitigation and avoidance are the same thing. No one talks about them as two different things, shitcrow. If you've spent more than a week playing you'd know this.

When you ask for mitigation but get assblasted when someone suggests mitigating that isn't in your little head canon, you can get bent.

No one is going to help you when you're so autistic you create differences where there are none and then break into a fit of autistic rage when no one agrees with you.

You need at least 3 layers of defense in HC. Claiming your only phys mitigation is end charges is the quickest way yo be called a shitcrow, shitcrow.

All that said, how do you expect someone to help you when all they know about your build is you have end charges? Great. So that's every fucking build ever. You need to give more information otherwise no one knows what that fuck is best for the build. If you're es, then a skill point is almost always worth it, even more so if you're crit. Evasion on the right side? It's a toss up. Left side of the tree? Sure end charge is great.

>>154534784
didn't read your butthurt novel

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Reminder zombies are OP

>>154534894
>gets BTFO
>"d-d-didnt r-read lol..!"

Get fucked, shitcrow.

DUDE

WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GIVE AN ANIMATED GUARDIAN

THE NEW CLAW UNIQUE

DOES IT MEAN IT DOES DOUBLE DAMAGE PLUS 70% increased damage?

>>154535008
no
your minions are not your guardian's minions

>>154534153
Skyforth and Cospri's Will.

>>154535124
What does that mean?

I can equip him items that give minion damage he would have my minion damage plus his minion damage and the wolf it would spawn would give him a boost

He could probably 1 shot everything

>>154535594
>plus his minion damage
nope

They really should up the damage on single target melee skills. A lot more risk for being on par with the damage of aoe ranged abilities.

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>>154534926
>sped up x4
>zombies
>not even lowlife
>THOSE FLASKS

LMAO even with ubilicus thats a shit setup

How do we fix Ascendant?

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>>154536167
6 (SIX) PERCENT

>>154536674
nerf her, she's too strong right now

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>>154536181
It was made for perandus, all its missing is a vinktar

now there are better flasks however

>>154536914
>dried lake
>no vaal haste
>wrong flesh offering

??? get a rumis next time.

>>154537512
no slots for vaal haste
>Wrong offering
Its not, you need it for high tier bosses else you die. You don't get benefits from rumi

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>tfw no dedicated 3 man mapping group

i have discovered a problem with rolling flames fireball
either bosses stand next to a wall or i suffer

>>154534502
they are fairly easy to chance.
ive chanced 3 so far in essence.

>>154539419
pics or it didn't happen

>>154539449
you think i would still have them?

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Why do people claim that ED is a slow build

>>154540315
>/reset_xp right before a huge group dies
>Take screenshot
WAAW

>>154540315
>only 191 mil in dried lake
that's why

Are builds without evasion or armor possible? Like full health and ES hybrid? Or do you need mitigation a lot?

>>154540529
CI builds generally have zero armour and mediocre evasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWq5BVZkoIY

time to get more life nodes now

>>154541052
nice flasks
that should carry you through vaaled 8 mod red maps

>>154541052
>that audio
l m a o
what was his name again?

>>154541190
I just did t12 8mod vaaled map, it was pretty easy since I permafreeze mobs

The writhing jars heal for 1600 right now and they basically have infinite charges so I have 5000 healing/0.1 second (or as fast as I can press em)

I'm gonna get to around 6k~7k life now, when I can reach 5.4k hp I can have fortify up permanently while proccing lvl1 CWDT with doedre so it should be okay (Unless uber izaro)

>>154541362
7k life is paper without mitigation
a 4k life gulpfinder with fully buffed charges up is tankier than you'll ever be gulping your seething worms

>>154541503
arctic armor + fortify + acro + 5k evasion seems enough mitigation to me, im doing atziri at 71

>>154514746
>sluts
Manwhores rather.

>>154541052
how is CoC balanced at all

in fact why is GGG so fucking GARBAGE at balancing

>all skill gems are basically damage amps

>CoC - literally another spell, like Spell Echo
>Spell Echo
>Controlled Destruction - More modifier

like what build that involves spells don't use spell echo and controlled destruction in some way unless you're a miniontard

>>154507132
Yes. but that's only a slight patch. Most mechanics in the game aren't properly balanced like that. If you look at (relatively well designed) class based games like TF2 or Overwatch you will see that there's very little instant deaths and most situations are avoidable (but it's PVP, but given a certain enemy action there's a good response outside of things like getting headshot as a scout).
Yes. The example I gave is defeated by heat flasks. But that's immunity. It's just another stat check. What you really want is skills like freeze pulse where (because I know the boss) I know I can keep my distance, it's an action or strategy I could have chosen to mitigate the issues. In this case the turbo'ed hailrake, I had the option to get in close and take his glacial cascades instead. They're not crazy guaranteed crits but it kept me frozen for quite long too.

It's not a bad idea. But having it tuned around ~[(-500),(-100)] or so instead would make more sense to me.
>>154512649
>Of course an ARPGs should have stat checks
Ok that's an opinion.
>it's part of the core concept
No not it's not part of A-R-P-G. I'm arguing it's bad. I'm not simply stating it's bad.

>>154541812
>TF2
>Overwatch
>well designed

lmao

>>154541883
>well designed
Not what i said. Clearly.
Based retard.

>>154541708
b-but it's not coc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R9CEH4t2Fc

twin t10 bossu increased crit

also I didn't need the 6l on the harvest, I was just super lucky (Pcoc and inc duration is on there, you can do without since you get pcharge from 4 other places)

Now I only have life nodes to pick up + shitty 1c rings to replace, I should be 2~3k life ahead + fortify (When Doedre elixir can still take away 15% life with fortify on)

>>154532496
Just use poe.trade and find things similar.
e.g. if you have a 900 armor chest with 90 life, 35 fire, 30 light, then look for shit with
>750-1100 armor
>80-100 life
>2 res
>55-75 total res
then go from there. If in doubt, start with a higher price and lower it if it's not selling.

Is this enough defense to pick up the berserker 40/10 node?

5.5k life
blasphemy temp chains
cwdt ic+arctic breath
fortify
vaal pact+cloaked in savagery
stun immunity

i've got no evasion, only 3k armour, and no endurance charge generation.

>>154542504
7k life is what you should aim for as melee

Reflect is a shitty mechanic.

>>154541812
Randomness IS part of the ARPG genre. Monsters are randomly generated with random affixes, auras. And when the stars align, you WILL die to something you were not prepared for. This is the main reason why some players choose to play hardcore, and why leveling is so boring to some because it lacks the randomness of map and their mods further amplifying high variance. This is in no way comparable to other game genres where you don't want randomness at all.

Stats checks aren't inherently bad because piled upon each other, they create the dynamic and complex (ideally) gameplay of an ARPG. For example, you have a stat check of cold res against Hailrake, which is quite boring in itself, but what if you fight a boss with more than one damage type? with extra life? extra damage mods? crit? high aoe? in a temp chains map? Now you have "stat checks" for elemental resistances, physical resistance/avoidance, dps, possibly sustain, crit mitigaton, mobility, and so on.

>>154542815
yep

>>154542815
wrong

>>154542815
unsure

>>154542870
>Randomness IS part of the ARPG genre.
Not counter to my argument. I'm arguing about the ranges and the consequence of bad rolls (essentially).
>This is in no way comparable to other game genres where you don't want randomness at all.
I chose class based shooters because they commonly have a lot of random elements. Through player interaction and minor circumstance (someone firing a rocket that happens to hit or miss in an unfortunate way or direct random chance).
>they create the dynamic and complex (ideally) gameplay of an ARPG.
I disagree that resistances does this. Resistances are as interesting as plain phys damage rolls on gear. I think most players agree that it's the unique mods that make characters interesting. Not "oh man I equipped double voidbringers look at how much my peak damage improved! This is such an unique and fun experience!"
>look at these other "stat checks"
Well most of those have very poor mitigation, and that's what makes them interesting.
>more than one damage type?
This is the most interesting, because it makes you unable to run the content with just cold res for instance.
>with extra life?
If you couldn't tank them before and relied on chance to keep you alive
>extra damage mods?
>crit?
Higher peak damage is interesting. But "stat check"? Nah.
>high aoe?
>in a temp chains map?
Kinda interesting. But how do you mitigate it? There's no "reduce AOE" readily available anti-curse effectiveness if we're to call this a 'stat check' it needs that.

>this is why people play hardcore
The way I view it is that people play hardcore because they like the tense experience of playing content they might die to and the relief that comes with beating it or simply giving up. That's my experience with players who find softcore boring anyway. Because alone it doesn't make any sense at all to relevel like that when it's considered boring. Why play the more boring game? It's because the peaks are higher and the lows are lower.

>>154540315
Thats less than I was getting as a (vaal)fireball build in dried lake (250 mill) , honestly vaal skills should just be removed at this point.

>>154543358
I should have just done a cont.

>Higher peak damage is interesting. But "stat check"? Nah.
Because it doesn't really stat check you most of the time. Not to the degree resistances do. Being off 5% resistance is a 33% damage increase. It's massive given the ranges of resistance rolls. Meanwhile if you were to ignore resists and tank up getting 33% extra survivability overall is a major investment. People equip lightning coil over other chests simply for a 21% mitigation. So clearly resistances in this game is very harsh. and I think it should be reconsidered given that it's basically just ripping off D2 for the sake of ripping off D2.
>the other "not a stat check"
If you're a build that couldn't deal with low mobility for whatever reason. What can you really do? You can simply not play those skills, because that's your limitation. That's very harsh too. It's just as bad as playing skills with collision issues.

If the game was better maybe you could have stats for all of that but I'm not sure that that'd be good solutions. Having players deal with the downsides is better, but for that to be feasible it has to be a milder punishment. Yes, blasphemy to talk about that in the current state of the game but I'm hypothesizing a better game. All the lack of difficult content/balance issues in this game still remains.

>>154541985
So what is this

Harvest + CwDt or what

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>>154542815

>tfw you wanted to mouse over a reflect monster but click your attack skill instead
>tfw you survived

>>154543358
>I disagree that resistances does this. Resistances are as interesting as plain phys damage rolls on gear.
Good thing you have various things in the game that either decrease or increase the resistance cap, and playing around them thus passively increases the complexity. If "resistance" was merely an immovable arbitrary number of 75 you have to reach, it'd be boring, but it's not.

I still don't see how the example of the cold resistance stat check against Hailrake is a bad thing. You'd run into the same issue elsewhere if you ran a -minmax map or were cursed and had not curse dispelling flask, and this is considering a very simplistic scenario where you only expect and prepare for one damage type, not 4 or 5.

The balancing act resulting from choosing to play at a standard 75% all res or not is what creates complexity, not the raw multiplicative modifier in itself.

Dad's been playing this for about 3 years, constantly recommending it. Finally might try it out even though I've got like 50 other bought games that I should be playing. Is it actually any good? What class is best? I'm thinking Duellist or Ranger.

>>154544240
Have you asked your dad why he plays shitcore before going to bed?

>>154544240
>What class is best?
Scion

>>154544327
Lol why

>>154544503
she's cute and she can play any build

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cleave is so fucking ffffffffun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jInQIazLqk
remember when poeg tried to claim vortex was a garbage spell? lmfao

lmao how is reflect real i MEAN just stop attacking nigga haha

>>154544503
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/542588
It's the best class because it's in the center of the tree and can reach anywhere. Also many builds path towards the center. She has
She also has the most gems available to her:
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quest_Rewards

And she's just looking smashing in her dress. Her voice lines aren't absolute garbage like witch/ranger and she's not a stinky man like templar, shadow or duelist.

>>154544909
Is that shitcore? I'm on my phone so I can't see.

>flaskfinder
Can't wait to see that shit nerfed to uselessness

>>154545241
100% agree

God damn I want to kill shaper this league. Might go blue for it

>>154544187
>you can alter the max
Yes. You're absolutely correct you can do that. But pic related is a list of all the ways of altering max resistances. The -max resist map mod is scary because it's the only way they actually increase elemental damage to players in the game other than the extra damage of element mod.

Saffell's Frame, Kaltenhalt and Rise of the Phoenix is really the only feasible items you can equip for more maximum elemental resistance. Try and work those into builds. Unless you have specific extra gains from the extra resistance (RF for example) you can't really justify it for those reasons. So for builds 75% is the boring defacto cap.

>You'd run into the same issue elsewhere
Yes of course. But not as easily. And you're ignoring the consequences of not being maximum resistances versus extra physical damage. The auras are easily outweighed by other defensive options (penalty is too high)
>The balancing act resulting from choosing to play at a standard 75% all res or not is what creates complexity
It doesn't create any complexity whatsoever. It's simply something 99% of builds do and have to do, you cap your resist, first for normal mapping then ele weakness. You're forced to deal with -max as if it's extra damage as X. That's the problem. A lesser cap with less stress on a maximum resistance being reached is far more interesting. As was suggested. Though I'd rather see more interesting solutions, like multiple elemental effect stages.

>>154545241
>her voice lines aren't absolute garbage
Did they change that? I remember her having monologues for dialogue.

>>154545354
Jesus dude you're not playing scion?
How's struggling in normal difficulty working out for you?

>>154544240
>dad plays videogames
My dad is boring. He watches educational TV. It doesn't teach anyone anything obviously because it's the most braindead shit. I keep recommending he finds better outlets but he just wants to watch TV.

Should I recommend Path of exile? How is your dad doing?

>>154545397
No I'm not playing that shit.
Literally every build I come up with is just better with any other starting character.

>leveling
>weapon swap to whirling blades forward
>level bladevortex
>rare mob
>swap back
>can't use spell
>wth
>don't have required dex
Oh i did not see that rip coming.

>>154544240
Depends how you define best, Shadow has the best posture and Duelist has pretty cool lines and Ranger and marauder have the best starts imo

>>154544327
Scion a shit don't believe his lies

>>154545648
>shadow
>best posture
makes my neck hurt just looking at him

>>154544240
Duelist has the best dialogue; he and Piety have a lot of lines together (and Piety is the most visible NPC throughout), plus some pretty good lines with others. It also sketches a bit of a path from duelist to hero over the way through normal.

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>>154545697
Googled Poe Shadow found this... kek

is there anything edgier than culling strike linked to whirling blades? literally giving the death blow by whirling into a monster... pssh nothing personel kid

Assassins mark on blasphemy to sustain powercharges on blade vortex or a 2 link PCOC blade vortex?

>>154546409

Flicker strike + culling.

>teleports behind you
>nothing personel kid

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>>154546409
>>154546601

>>154546857
crowdfund it?

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feeels good amn

>>154547280
I hope you sold them to min max your quality > baubles

>>154547280
poorfags...

>>154543897
Writhing Jar = summon 2 enemy worms

Doedre= remove 15% of your life

The Harvest = recover 1 flask charge per crit

>Summon 2 worms
>Remove 15% of your life
>Procs lvl 1 CWDT (528 damage)
>CWDT kills worms
>My spells have high crit, thus freezing them
>My 5 linked HoI (With 40% increased AOE) explodes them all
>Each critical strike I do fills up my flask, allowing the cycle to run perpetually

= I'm getting 12 worm explosions per 0.15 seconds, so about 100 worms killed per second, each HoI does 9k damage, so about 900k dps

The best thing about this is that it's not reflected, since Herald isn't a skill directly casted by yourself, so as long as you just build more HP you are completely fine

I am thinking of rerolling into Slayer (25% FREE AOE) and more life

I will have 30% less cirt, however much mroe survivability and culling

>>154547280
That's a nice 48 blacksmiths whetstones.

>>154547846
no wait it's 280k dps, checked again

However doing this at max speed WILL DC you, they have a set amount of inputs allowed per second

>>154547940
>set amoutn of inputs allowed per second
And they don't cap that in the client?
That's bullshit.

>>154548013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EWo5GnruWo

well as you can see in this video you can go up to like 50~60 kileld per second, it's when you reach close to 100s the game kicks you out

As a templar hierophant, should i rush Sanctuary of thought + MOM? I want to do a low life build so taking it first look like an obligation. Is the Uber lab that hard?

>>154548102
Yeah I'm not questioning if it happens. I'm just saying, what they could do instead is have you not be able to click that much. Ignore actions when you click that much.

Because if it's not allowed to send that many commands why let the client do that? You can still check for it on the server, but it won't give legit players these ugly disconnects.

So what's the reason so many people quit hc and are playing sc now? Is it just this league?

All my friends moved to sc ;-;

>>154548574
I'd imagine it's because hardcore offers no extra incentives / uniques / mechanics this time.

>>154548574
>So what's the reason
Probably people wanna push higher content. HC players are quite notorious for avoiding hard content.

>>154548490
Hmm maybe I should ask ggg for that

Where should the best place to contact Chris be

Should I shitpost on rebbit?
Email him directly?

>>154547846
does this even take any gear or do you just slap every spell and their mothers on the cwdt?

is hoi linked up to supports even?

>>154548574
HC is a novelty / meme / autist magnet. Between the introduction of the lab and GGGs servers, softcore is just a more enjoyable option.

>>154548884
Harvest is 100% neccessary
5L Carcass highly recommended
HoI - Inc crit - AOE - cold pen - hypothermia

>>154548743
>Should I shitpost on rebbit?
>Email him directly?
Both.
But make the reddit post primary, you can just copy a link into the email.

D

>>154541812
>Ok that's an opinion.
Yes, it's an opinion. If you want a boring linear gearing with no breakpoints to hit go buy Diablo 3.
You might like it more, but fuck off from my theorycrafting paradise.

>>154546601
>>154546857
Why not just do Slayer FS? You basically get a better culling with Bane of Legends.

>>154548574
Your friends care more about completing the atlas than experiencing the adrenaline rush of beating new bosses on HC.

what are you guys playing? i can't decide on a build, i've leveled one hc char to 86 before ripping and three sc chars to 85+ before getting bored. need some ideas lads.

>>154551952

Because we are meming and not making serious builds.

>>154549025
Hoi can't crit I think. And if you wanna run slayer I would drop it, 2% is too little imho. I tried making a slayer tree instead of shadow but it's kinda ugly.

>>154553346
Ye if ur running slayer HoI will have like 20% crit at max, you will put something like add cold damage

Slayer itself doesn't sound TOO bad (Just because of how broken the class is) you get FREE aoe and culling

The shadow build will have like 5~6k life, slayer could reach for 8k but it's trivial how much crit you will have on your spells for your worms to detonate, if you kill them without shattering it's all over

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just jsp'd 30exa famalam

whats a hot spicy meme build in softcore for atziri runs

>>154553713
D-Do you want to buy 10 exalts from me? I really need to quit to play wow but I'm scared of getting ban

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>>154554163
Just sold my wow gold on jsp for exalts on poe lol sorry brah.

Wow is so fucking boring now that I go to the gym, not gonna dedicate 15 hours of my life to leveling and gearing.

>>154553713
You should get a few more and buy HH. After that slap literally any gems on your gear + enfeebled/tc.

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pretty nice, poojoy's asylum, grandmaster and mao kun.
My best loot this league.

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>>154554517
Nice if softcore but I don't think anyone in HC would run gm for fun.

>>154553713
>>154554347
my b for keeping trip on famri, forgot to take it off and i dont wanna be a fag.

>>154553531
I think I'll do cwdt-pcoc-cold snap-bv
They will always freeze and shatter when hit with cs. At least I think so?

>>154554869
Worms fly off pretty far, you will need Inc aoe, and unless you want to self cast every while and then, put Inc duration on bv too , just have two separate setu0, main bv with aoe crit duration and like snap cascade pcoc

Another important thing with the harvest is that you get a charge every crit so multi hit skills really help

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>>154553713
What's the point of spending your exalts on an atziri build? I hope you mean uber atziri at least since norm atziri is almost 100% non-profitable

What kind of stats would I need on a 1-handed sword to be able to use it on a crit build?

I'm thinking 200+ pdps and 7,5%+ crit chance, but I'm not sure.

>>154525293
My lacerate gladi is fun. Pseudo melee skills are good and bloodsplosion+HoA is sick. Crit reave might be better though

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How much ES per gear slot do you need to safely transition from life to CI?

Also, is pain atonement and reserving a few more auras worth skipping CI and being lowlife?

>>154556691
>My lacerate gladi is fun.

Post build

is the "kill 40 monsters bearing silver coins" achievement bugged?

>>154557430
i had no problem with it.

>>154557040
pls rspond to me

CI EQ? :^)

poeurl.com/LVS

i just want to try something silly

>>154557040
>>154557784
what's safe varies from person to person

if you have less than 6k total es then you might run into problems

don't go lowlife unless you know what you're doing

>>154558104
>don't go lowlife unless you know what you're doing
I don't have idea, thanks

>>154556691
>>154557380
+1, I'd like to see it too.

>tfw you get tired of rolling laggy ground effect maps half the time and go do dried lake and actually have more fun because the game isn't a janky ass shitshow
Maybe I should just swear off maps entirely and concentrate on just uber lab or something... or play better games.

>>154558281
You go life/hybrid into CI. And when you get sky + shav you go LL. It also helps to level at least 3 enlightens and or buy lv 4 cards at the start of a league.

>>154515851
Since launch of Atlas or since launch of the game?
I've played since the launch of the game and have probably found 100+ exalts by now.
Still no mirror though.

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>>154558704
>shav
Why is it so expensive o.o

>>154557040
Don't be too afraid of doing it, with my current build I waited too long because I wanted ~10k and a few key uniques on transition, in hindsight I'd have gone with 5-6k a bit after I hit merciless dried lake rather than deal with hybrid for any amount of time.

>>154558686
post your pc spec

>>154558881
Because it lets you upgrade 99% of CI builds into a better version.

>almost at the end of the labyrinth
>die due to a desync because apparently I was standing next to one of those grindy things
>have to start over
I haven't played since a bit before 2.0 so this is new to me, is this really how it's supposed to be? this is pretty long

>>154557040
1k Es purely from gear is more than enough if you can leech and regen. Having 2k from gear is enough to plow through all content.

What is the strongest build atm for end game mapping and shaper? BV?

>>154559246
>>154558897
Is this a good tree before transitioning to CI?

poedb.tw
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>>154559093
>400 es chest
>upgrades 99% of ci builds

>>154559776
Link for official tree please, I am on mobile

>>154559981
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAQMeBAcEswceCPQOSA5cES8Rlha_GGoc3B9BIvQmiCaVKlsrCjLRNj06WDwFPLY9X0M2RUdFfkWdSVFJsUyDTLNObVJTUq9S7FNSVUtVxlgHXEBd8mHiYqxn_GjyakNqjGr6bAtsjG0ZcNR0gXWedoJ4L3n2fOV_xoCzg9uHy48aj0aP-pFHkyeVLpeVl_Sa4JuhnDKdqqEvogCi2aXEpwinm6yYrUqw2LTFtNG1SLcwvOq-isBUwGbC7MgMyBTPFdAf18_aO-ha62Pr7uwY73zviO_r8B_w1fVv99f5N_mk

>>154559823
If you are poor and can't craft %es on jewellery it's not rly my fault you know.

>>154560078
That doesn't change the fact that you're losing upwards of 500 ES from your chest slot and 15% more ES from Infused Shield

>>154560075
With 2 energy from within jewels and 5 regrets assuming you can get 1000es from gear without %es and with discipline lv20 you can get 5200+ Es which is ok for maps <12. If you upgrade your gear at least a little and use Vaal discipline you will be quite comfortable.

>>154560201
It also doesn't change the fact that you can run 3 more auras and have pain attunement.

>>154560685
those things don't upgrade 99% of CI builds

did anyone kill shaper in hc yet? "elite" hardcucks players are so behind softcore pros that it's becoming somewhat sad at this point

>>154560782
Yes they do.

>>154560873
would love to see your lowlife caustic arrow or bladefall miner build

>>154560863
I love this meme

>>154560581
If you remove 3 more hp nodes and grab ci you will get 6800 or so Es.

>>154560863
Hege killed Shaper on HC I think.

How do I make the tankiest possible bino's+death's hand build?

>>154561029
>explosive arrow ci and not kaom
Nice cherry picking, why aren't you mentioning bv, m?

>>154561245
no he didn't. his highest level in ehc is a level 88 juggernaut he's used for nothing but uber lab farming and is nowhere even remotely close to killing shaper.

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>>154557040
600 es minimum for me. but it depends on tree and you gotta factor in bonuses to shield defenses as well.

Now help me, google is fucking retarded

>>154561029
Add wi to the question and it will be perfect.

>>154561245
he was trying it on standard with his uber lab farming character from last league, he failed miserably multiple times

>>154559776
I'm guessing dual/tricurse ED with Zealot's Oath? I did it a bit differently, but that doesn't look bad.

>>154561328
for bv, whether the damage from lowlife or the larger ES pool is preferable varies for many situations. if you're clearing maps, you won't need the damage from LL but might prefer the ES buffer to avoid dying to volatiles/bearers/random spike damage. if you're farming uber, you might need to hit a certain damage threshold in order to reasonably finish the fight

for you to say LL is an upgrade to CI in 99% of situations is just wrong when it's so easy to find situations where it isn't

>go to highgate to redeem a few div card sets
>5 minute loading screen because I have to load 20 mtx babbies and their full mtx gear
i hate this game

>>154562234
>edgy demon wings on xxitachixx
k e k

>>154515851
found an exalt and 2 chaos orbs within a minute yesterday. lvl50 cruel...

melee splash is just a better ele prolif
:3

How's this chaos berserker build?

Tree: poeurl.com/LWc
Weapons: Chaos damage gemini claw in main-hand, breath of the council in off-hand

Gonna use Reave+Added Chaos Damage+Void Manipulation+Multistrike+Fortify+Increased AoE/Conc Effect

>>154563039
Also, gonna have essence of envy+chaos damage enchant on all my jewels and use cospri's to guarantee poison.

>>154563039
>Berserker
but... why?

>>154563616
1. more damage multiplier double dips
2. doesn't have to go crit+accuracy for damage like assassin, can go with RT and life nodes instead.
3. leech from chaos damage without going down to the duelist area
4. cloak of savagery+vaal pact works well with builds that rely on DoT's to do most of their damage.

>>154563616
>FREE damage
>MORE damage

DEAD

my game keeps crashing every 30-50 minutes since the new xpac, what do?

>>154561360
Catwoman from Arkham batman games
>>154561174
Can you walk into traps without dying with that much ES?
>>154561642
Honestly I've just mixed yoji and projectpts trees together

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>>154565919
>I've just mixed yoji and projectpts trees

>>154565981
There can't be that much diversity to such build, I'd love you to prove me wrong

>>154566136
post you'r tree so i can critique it

>>154566176
see
>>154559776

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what a day, first the unique map box and now these two bad boys, hold me /poeg/ i am not even streaming.

>Dreamfeathers are up to 2ex for a good roll
Fucking Mathil

>>154566670
can i have that

>>154559823
He's saying that LL is better than CI in most builds, and Shav's is basically mandatory for LL. tbqfamalam it's pretty shitty game design for a whole subset of builds to be dependent on a single unique to function.

hows everyone handling the 2.4 alch shortage?

>>154567191
i'm short on alchs

>>154567191
i'm selling maps for alchs

>>154567191
why would you need alchs when you have essences lol

man, this harvester stuff is awesome. I put a macro for flasks and cruising thru all maps.

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Hakuna matata, warrieh.

>Exalt prices used to inflate until judgment day every league
>now they are actually falling

What happened? Not that I'm complaining.

>voidheart cucked to death
>still costs ~70c
WTF poetards???

>come back to the game after skipping the last league
>the trails/lab is still an absolute slog and some of the worst content in the game

I suppose I could just skip ascendancy points.

Also how are split arrow rangers these days? I know tornado shot is the hotness but I hate that skill.

>>154567191
>league of free improved alchs
>running out of alchs
based retard

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>Torr Olgosso

>>154568990
how's dried lake treating you, sweetie?

Is the ricochet skill better than the chain support gem?

>>154569231
what the fuck are you on about you passive aggressive twat?

>>154523172
Literally no point