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if you're not playing CI BV Pathfinder, your build is SHIT

>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
essence challenges: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715825

>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228

>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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What happens if a boss would drop a +2 but you haven't unlocked any +2 in your atlas yet? does it get rerolled into a +1 or is that drop essentially lost?
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>>154608018
Updated on the name change situation.

This is what they named me...
It's kind of endearing.
GGG is racist as fuck.
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>>154522594
>free
>>154547846
>FREE
>>154553531
>FREE
>>154563912
>FREE
>>154568990
>free
>>154588307
>free
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>>154608590
>TINYDICKFAGGOT
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>>154608590
How do they rename that character but not TinyDickFaggot?
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>>154608759
Wasn't reported obviously.
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i heard that this game has online co-op, someone kill brutus with me. london EU
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>>154609127
It is now.
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>>154609170
I'm reporting stickytarbabies.
That's really sarah's fault and she shouldn't be making fun of PoC.
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>>154609260
hehehehhe
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>>154609681
What are you laughing at?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9eybY9qFfY
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>>154609780
>that song
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holy shit how dead are we
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i told you retention would be terrible this league
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everyone's too busy playing to be posting
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lol yeah right lmao
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the fact that people ignored this post >>154609163 basically means the community is complete shit.
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>Astramentis Onyx Amulet this morning - 50chaos
>Night time - 1 exalted with low stats

Which one of you is flipping this? I know its this general.
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Doing a Arc templar

What do you guys use for survivability? Lightning coil with purity of lightning will probably be a part, but it doesn't look enough to me
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>>154612772
Retention is better than ascendancy
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>>154614340
>he says 10 days into the league
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>>154613608
You've misunderstood. PoE is a prison and /poeg/ is the public space where the worst residents stab each other with shivs made out of dried cum and toilet paper.
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Made it out of normal in hardcore for the first time

feel good man
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>>154614407
Yes, this is correct. In this 10 day period the player retention has been better than the 10 day period after Ascendancy.
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>>154614602
you literally don't know anything. shut the fuck up
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>>154614730
You don't even know who you're talking to
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>>154614565

Congrats Anon. Here is a tip for Merciless Hardcore. Do not fight Malachai. Its literally impossible.
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>>154612772
>>154613095
cancer

>>154613608
You didn't ignore it... last I checked, you're part of this community, albeit a cancerous pos.

>>154614730
cancer
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>>154608228
Based on how fucking shitty map luck I had until I got some more maps unlocked I think it's the latter.
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>>154614961
post proofs or get the fuck out
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>>154614038
What Ascendancy you gonna pick?

There's always cwdt ic, blasphemy curses, maybe MoM if you build for it?

Decoy totem.
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>>154615439
Oh yeah, that's sounds like a great idea for notoriety
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>>154608018
>the witch
>image of a ranger

quality shitposting
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What the fuck do I do with all the essences?
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>>154615117
When should I do the normal labyrinth? Izaro wrecked my practice league character
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>>154615532
Stone golem has been my bro every character this league. He taunts shit so you can focus on deeps, and he heals you so you don't have to pot for minor damage.
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>>154615626
trade up, craft. use the lowest to complete chaos recipes
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>>154615532
Thinking Inquisitor, but i'm not going crit. getting the holy ground ones and augury.

I suppose MoM could be doable, and maybe cwdt IC but i actually never tried that one, normally i self cast
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>>154615691

After you finish cruel you go back and do normal lab with good gear. Or you can pay someone to carry you for easy ascendancy.
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>>154615626
Fuckign arrange them in a fucking bearable order

Jesus , they were nice enough to give them a nice color scheme
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>>154615691
The most difficult part of lab runs are the stupid traps. Izaro is all physical damage. If you have a lot of phys defense he should be easy. What build are you running?
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Just got to Act 4 Cruel as a Deadeye Ranger. I am pretty sure my build is garbage and total shit, but I want to stick with this character at least until I beat Merciless. How realistic is it to get enough regret orbs to totally respec a character? Should I just roll a new character if I want to make a new build?

Also are A4 Mines as big a difficulty spike in Cruel as they are in Normal?
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>>154616078
If you really want to respec you should only partially do it - and even then you get like 20 refund points from all the quests.
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>>154616078
if you can salvage your build within 10-15 regrets, do it, otherwise start over

Cruel Daresso/Kaom are the only real difficulty spike
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Are magic items useful on their own, or do well-rolled magic items just exist to get regalled? Also, is it like D2 where magic items can roll affixes that rares can't, or can rares roll anything a magic item can?
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>>154616078
you get like 20 respec points and you can buy regrets

unless you have fucked pretty much your entire tree or decide to drastically change your build (like going from bows to swords), respecing mistakes is easy enough
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>>154616385

How do I deal with Kaoms fireballs? When he is dying all 4 corners have waterfalls shooting them.
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Does anyone know if Inquisitor's Instruments of Virtue counts spells cast from triggers ie. CWDT or Kitava's Thirst?
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>>154616341
>>154616385
Thanks. I already spent some regrets earlier because I had the genius idea to get 0% life, and realized around level 40 that shit wasn't gonna fly.

Daresso and Kaom kicked my ass on normal, hopefully I'll do a bit better this time around.
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>>154616505

its almost never worth it regaling them unless its jewels or you are playing ssf. rares can anything a magic item can

there are niche builds that use Hidden potential which benefits from using good magic items, but that isnt very common
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>>154616534

cap fire resist, have some life%

those are a nonissue really. what you should watch out for is kaom's slam
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>>154616639
Do regals have a use other than upgrading good magic items? Or do you get so few of them that you can spend all of them on jewels?
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>>154616912
You can use them on GG weapons with T1 crit or physical mods, in the hope of getting more GG mods. If you do the lvl 75 recipe then normally you should have plenty of regals.
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Why is nobody buying my shit? These are fair prices.
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>>154615993
i was running some lightning arrow build i saw on youtube for the practice league but now im running melee

since my EHC character is way stronger than the other one i think my gear was just ultra shit

I have 4x the dps 2x the hp and much better mitigation this time around
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>>154617219
use acquisition.

noone save rmters or scammers use trade chat
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>>154616627
You'll want to have around 170% life from the tree when you hit level 70.
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>>154617659
you dont need to reach that kind of life bonus until you began doing t5+ maps
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>>154617659
I think I'm currently just shy of 100%, and I'm searching for some more nodes. There's one near the center of the tree with a fuckton of +%life and some nearby +%resists, so I'm going after those.

>>154617152
What does t1 mean in this context? The highest-tier of a given mod? E.G. Merciless for +%phys?

Thanks for taking the time to answer questions and give advice, btw.
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>>154618160
you do when you're playing on the right side of the tree
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>>154618262
>The highest-tier of a given mod
Yes. The mods are unlocked at certain levels. Highest level of mods are ilvl 83 and up. You can hold alt and mouse over on an item to see its ilvl.

Try to cap your resist from gear but don't sweat it too much if you're not quite there yet in normal or cruel. At merci things start hurting quite bad if you're not capped but even then some builds can push into the 70s without being capped. It's not recommended especially if you're playing HC.
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>>154618262
Aye, highest possible mod. Merciless, Tyranical, that kind of stuff.

Still a rather nice and extremely expensive process, and essences are imo a bette rtool this league
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>>154618381

youve easy access to vp, acro, and can trivially run blasphemy temp chains and enfeeble because attacks are almost cost-free
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>>154618618
Thanks. I'm currently 75/70/75/-20 resist on Cruel. I can't really get anything to give me decent chaos resists atm. Gearing even just a little bit of Chaos Resist with my current gear results in my elemental resists taking a steep dive, so I'm just not bothering with it. It seems like a fairly rare damage type, so maybe that's fine for now?
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>>154618837
20% is plenty for cruel. Chaos is the hardest resist to gear for, but not absolutely necessary until merciless where stuff like alchemists and the spider bosses start being extremely deadly without
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>>154618837
No one cares about Chaos res, Chaos res is a luxury. Those resists are ok i'm lvl 78 and i have similar resists. You should try to cap though.
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Why are PoE streamers and youtubers and the 'community' so fucking cancer. They attract attention to builds and gear, fuck the market up and drown out actually important things like how fucking bad the overall balancing of the game is or how stupid some shit is but hey they're veterans, they can handle it! Don't remove the fact you go through the same shit 3 times just to get to the end-game content - not only that but people willingly do this multiple times, for multiple characters, for multiple leagues.

Then that end-game content is defined as being 1-shot or you're out or 1-shot and a whole pack of mobs is gone, if you can't stop the first you're bad, if you can't do the second you're bad. But we love this shit am I right GGG? We want more of it! Give us more dumb bullshit to put up with like Lab! Hell this Atlas is so fucking good toss me some more shitty mapping fun.
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odds: respec currency farmer ice trapper to CI based with crit, and use currency for gg CI gear
evens: reroll a new character for boss killing/uber lab farming, and use currency for that
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>>154612717
>>154612772
>>154613005
>>154613095
Your samefagging is so apparent every single time. Kill yourself.
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>>154619258
cancer
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>>154619258

they make money from streaming.

they are not an impartial opinion, their business' health depends on the game being popular, so of course they will shill as hard as they can
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>>154619601
retard
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What are mistakes you had made starting out that you wish you could had prevented? I am hoping someone have a interesting story.
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Good leveling uniques for cast speed?
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>>154620086
git gud
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>>154620086
installing poe
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>>154620086
planning 1st char as CI was a mistake

>>154620208
nigga just look for 15+ cast speed rare wands on poe trade
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What are some good uniques that are cheap? Like say 'sleeper-OP'
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>>154620086
Not buying stash tabs as soon as you make your account.
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>>154620585
low-key op
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>>154620325
nigga i can actually just look for anything with %cast speed under my level. didn't realize that actually.
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Oh look a 2 MB patch!!
>Cue half an hour of Checking resources
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>>154619258
Nah, it's gold. While every retards, including 3/4 of /poeg/ follow fotm, every other piece of gear is practically free because no ones wants them.
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>>154621001
this
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i climbed some stairs in pier and the background seemed to fall off.
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>barely play
>don't even try
>still in the top 1.2%

holy fuck people suck at this game
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When is it safe to do Uber lab as an essence drain trickster. Running decoy totem and I have about 6k life, will that be enough?
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Why did I download this game on Steam? I'm such a fucking retard. This update system is killing me. REEEEEEEEE
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>0.01% of people who have completed any challenges have earned the Essence Portal Effect.
Why is everyone such a fucking casual?
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>>154621001

Yea, but even if you are non fotm, these gear price spikes can mess you up.
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>>154623725
it's a meme statistic. like 99.999% of accounts have never killed normal brutus, because they never even played the game past making an account.
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>>154624129
>>0.01% of people who have completed any challenges
>who have completed any challenges
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>>154624201
yeah like 10 challenges can be completed in normal. i'm not disputing the average player mass isn't casual, but it's a skewed statistic, because these people don't play the game past normal.
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>>154624340
>yeah like 10 challenges can be completed in normal.
No. Did you even play this league? You get ~8-10 challenges by playing "normally" without caring about challenges by the end of merciless, not normal
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can't
wake
up
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The skill tree feels like it doesn't have as much impact as it should - especially compared to your equips. Like the whole purpose was to build your own special Snowflake but the reality is you stack tons of health and whatever you need to get to whatever you; logical of course but the only real 'big' modifiers are Keystone passives which can dramatically change your build. I wish there were a fucking lot more of these. Instead people rely on 'Uniques', in quotations because of they're not actually that unique, people sell, buy and move that shit around all the time. They change builds - and enable them - more than your skill tree special snowflake does.

What if there were a bunch of super skill points nodes which everyone could access but you only pick like one. Similar to Asendancy in how you're locked but it's not exactly like that because Witch could dive towards something towards the Shadow's part of the tree but the Witch will never be an Assassin, which is the problem about Ascendancy and how it clearly supports a 'meta'.
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>>154624456
>Activate These Waypoints
>Combine three Essence
>Complete These Normal Quests
>Etc.

I said can be completed. Not you will have 10 challenges completed by the end of normal. If you wanted to gauge the player interest in Challenges, the statistic should be taken from people who've reached at least yellow maps, as these are the people who have an interest to play this game in general. Including all accounts with one challenge complete doesn't mean shit, when these people have no interest playing the game past normal or take the full 3 months to do it.
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I'm doing an Arc templar, and i really can,t fucking decide between Inquisitor and Hierophant

On one hand, Illuminated Devotion is incredible nice to have with the free leech/AoE/Damage Pen, and i could run some funny shit like double decoy + consuming/rejuv or go for the mana to hp for tanky.

Inquisitor would give me that sweet consecrated ground and Augury


THis is my first real templar, what do you guys think?
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Ask a guy who keeps dying to normal fucking daresso anything.
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>>154624794
>1.13% of people who have completed any challenges have earned the Essence Back Attachment.
How much mental gymnastic are you going to do to explain this one? Barely 1% of players got 24 challenges, something that can be EASILY done in 10 days if you play more than 3 hours a day (i.e. you're not a filthy casual)
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wew fucking died again and I need a new build


Thinking SRS or lameblast totems

ed is fucking boring and melee builds are off the table
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>>154625631
Make Spark viable
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>>154625448
>you should have 24 challenges in ~40 hours "more than 30" /played

o-okay.
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>>154625698
Spark inquisitor would like a word with you.
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>>154625424

How?
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>>154625363
Go crit Inquisitor, and don't waste points on that consecrated ground trash. Get everything that isn't Sanctify/Pious Path, with your first four points going toward the extremely strong Inevitable Judgement, followed by Instruments of Virtue (use whirling blades or shield charge for movement to get the spell benefits), and Augury last.
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>>154625448

Not that anon, but some people just don't go fir cheevos this early.

I think im at 11 completed, and i havent gone out of my way to do any at all. I could probably hit 24 without any problems by just completing the ones i have at 95% completion.
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>>154625956
What the fuck do you mean how? Daresso is a bullshit fucking boss.

Invul frames
100% chance to hit
Spinning fuck you blades from hell
Decoy totem does fuck all
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>>154625987
I'll do exactly the opposite, thanks. Hierophant here i come.
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>>154626059
5 star post
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>>154626059
Alright, good luck with your shit build buddy.
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>>154623229
depends on the day
fonts + sword might be rough
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suck my dick vivre
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>>154625448
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Yovu/characters

Look at this absolutely disgusting casual. Only 27 challenges completed and he's ladder #3 in EHC.
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>>154625956
It's usually because the spinnning blade things appear in the space I was planning to dodge his giant aoe into.

Also because I keep trying to play melee because I'm an idiot and a masochist.
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Gimme a skill, that's preferably fun but seemingly shit to make a build with.
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>>154626289
flame dash + searing bond totems
wild strike
lightning strike
frost blades
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>>154626238
and your point is? that guy is obviously pushing ladder hard rather than chasing challenges and he still got 24+

for anyone who doesn't have the excuse of being top 50 where chasing challenges might be a waste of time, 24+ is easily reachable, hence having only 1% of the playerbase at 24+ shows how fucking casual the playerbase is
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Rate my clique
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>>154626705
why do people buy ugly mtx when uniques with natural mtx like kintsugi look much better?
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>>154626802
only mtx i see there is minotaur and flame skull
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Can someone hook me up with a life based SRS build?
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>>154626928
craft blood magic on your staff and enjoy
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>>154626669
Steel has 37 challenges and he's ladder #1. What are your exact rules on giving people passes on this? I played to 85 and went back to other video games. I have 11 challenges complete. I must be a filthy casual normie, being NEET and playing other video games than PoE all day. The forum post is just meme statistic and an advertisement for retards. It literally indicates nothing.
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>>154627139
>I played to 85 and went back to other video games. I have 11 challenges complete. I must be a filthy casual normie


not him but you are

85 is nothing
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>>154626669
>people should chase after retarded challenges that give shit rewards because I say so
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>>154627139
funny how you will discard the vast majority of the population but will cherry pick people in top 10 as if statistical outliers matter when considering the larger picture

matter of fact, it doesn't matter whether steel has 19 or 39 challenges, because he's not fucking REPRESENTATIVE of the playerbase by himself, the STATISTICAL representation is, you fucking idiot
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>want to play poe
>everything I want to play is either melee and dies to bosses or dies to reflect
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>>154626928
Gonna roll with this build
poeurl.com/L0q
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>>154627330
Ouch. I don't pass your arbitrary internet normie scale, despite doing nothing in my life but play video games, just because I don't have enough interest in PoE and even less for the achievements in it. Can you just post your exact rules for this scale? Do I get any points for past league challenges or maybe my old EverQuest II achievements? Is it literally just current league challenges achieved and time spent in PoE in some weird sum?

>>154627367
Yeah and the statistic is completely random and pointless. Literally just like the "99.9% of all accounts haven't killed normal Brutus". You'd have to be a massive retard to think it indicates people's interest or "skill" in completing challenges.
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Does X% Elemental Damage with Weapons count for things that convert physical melee hits to elements? even it's just a % convert?
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>>154628017

no matter how much vidya you play, you are a casual poe player

there is no shame in that. there ARE better games, just dont pretend you arent casual just because you reached l85, something which everybody did on day 2 or 3
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>>154628153
Yes.
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At what point does firestorm fall off?
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>>154628358
if you are inquisitor or assasin, never
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How do Rangers function, they have like no fucking life nodes? Just drink flasks all day as flaskfinder?
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>>154628185
It's interesting how you completely ignored the character level to challenges completed ratio and just started firing shots at me and not my arguments. What about my time spent against my level? I used to be able to race the ladder for the first 2 days solo, but have literally no interest in actually racing it vs. just going fast anymore. I didn't check my /played time on 85, but would I be less casual if it was less than 16 hours solo? If I started firing shots, it sounds like this is your first league and you're really excited about your first 24 challenges.
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GULP is the fucking worst guild tag ever.
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>>154628559
They get all the life nodes that they can. Most of the time they branch up to Shadow, down to Duelist, over to Scion. Gets around 180% life if you do it right, even more if you really need it but most builds don't.
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>>154626705
faggot sausage party
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>>154628779
don't fucking remind me

life nodes spread is the goddamn worst
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>>154615769
>trade up, craft. use the lowest to complete chaos recipes
oh boy that never actually occured to me i have a stashtab full of only t1 essences
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>>154628779

Is it worth it to go get that extra life near the Scion if I'm going to be nuked into orbit anyways by higher-tier map bosses?

>tfw currently using a deadeye ranger to clear the general area then switching to juggernaut for bosses (especially ones with separate rooms)
>inb5 just play a memefinder
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poe was good before revised the talent tree. I miss 2013
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>>154626435
I'm interested in Frost Blades.

Gonna go with this unless there's any suggestions.

http://poeurl.com/L0v
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>>154629696
I miss the days of big tree revisions every other patch.
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Jesus Christ these Pizzatotems. Absolutely 100% guaranteed nerf (in 6 months). I'm getting 140mil/hour in _cruel_ dried lake. It's like two people casting Flameblast when it was its height (not including last league's elementalist bullshit).
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>>154628665
If someone plays and quits on day 2 (you), they're a casual.
If someone plays and doesn't care about challenges, they're a casual. (they play casually to have "fun")
If someone can't reach 24 challenges on 10 days, they're a casual.

It's all I'm saying. You're extrapolating some vague assumption the statistics are skewed by all the casuals who quit early on or never get past normal or don't care about challenges as if that helps contradict the idea that if only 1% of the playerbase with challenges got to 24+, then it means 99% OF SAID POPULATION IS FUCKING CASUAL.

>If I started firing shots, it sounds like this is your first league and you're really excited about your first 24 challenges.
Cute. But there's nothing to be proud about 24 challenges, because it's full casual territory as far as I'm concerned. You actually need to be a mega casual or have some good excuse not to have 24+ challenges by now.
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>>154630069
mean to quote >>154628607
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>>154630069
>being this mad about a videogame
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>>154630190
people who try to jump through hoops to justify being casual trigger me
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>>154630041

Im fairly certain shit like ED, trap builds and a few others perform just as well and have better single target dps.
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why the fuck is rathpith like 3ex now
that shit isn't even meta anymore
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>>154630890
>being this clueless
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>>154630890
I don't pay much attention to the 'meta' but if people are actually having to do bosses rathpith sounds it's going to be a pretty in demand item.
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>>154630069
>You're extrapolating some vague assumption the statistics are skewed

That's because it's true. It's skewed by people who have no time or interest in playing any further. GGG posts these statistic to create hype, but they actually mean literally nothing.
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>spend a while customizing my hideout
>people complain that masters aren't right next to each other
>it's a 2 seconds and one click trip to get from one to another

g-gotta go fast!
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>>154631584
it's only good if you have block in the first place but no one goes block anymore

and meta is CI pathfinder which means a CI shield
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>>154632041
every pathfinder goes block with rumi's
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>>154630826
>ED

Unless there's a new GMP+Faster Casting meta, that doesn't use Contagion, it's not even close in clear speed.
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>>154632123
no one goes life anymore, they transition to CI eventually, which means investing 3ex on a rathpith is a waste of currency
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>>154632041
>no one does block anyore
gladiator is stupidly overpowered.
if there were a skill centered around blocking it be fotm meta right now
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I wanna make a CI Ancestral Warchief build, what's the best way to go about it?

My current idea is to go unarmed with the soul strike quiver on an occultist: poeurl.com/L0I

I get the tank from soul strike, but the damage seems shit compared with a dagger.
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>>154632301
but gladiator gets 100% block to spellblock conversion which means they would never use rathpith, something like aegis or any cheap 30% block shield would be better

really not seeing what warrants its current 3ex price
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>>154632293
It's still an easy BiS without the life for Pathfinder and literally everybody's playing Pathfinder Blade Vortex. People also use Stone of Lazhwar without any block nodes on tree.
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>>154632293
so you're gonna have 10k es instead of 12k, what a disaster
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>>154632205

ED with enough aoe means you cast once and you clear 2-4 screens of monsters. The higher density the faster clearspeed.

I could get 300 mil xp/h or more in high density meps.
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>>154632041
>>154632301
I've got a bunch of block nodes and i can say its still a solid defense but since they changed the tree to make it harder to cap block (around rampage i think) it certainly feels like a shitty investment. There are parts on the tree where it takes 4 nodes to get 5% block and alot of other defenses are more economical. If you could capitalise off block offensively (besides reckoning) it would be stronger.
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Is this how you warchief?

poeurl.com/L0V
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>>154633387
gladiator or necro can cap block with ease these days. its hardly build-crippling
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>>154609260
What's a PoC build?
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>>154614038
That plus temp chains and decent flasks is enough >>154615850
Fuck MoM, too much effort
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>>154634686
Is there a glad block build that does damage?
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>>154634178
why do you grab totemic zeal when melee totems have a placement speed inherent to them?

combat stamina seems like a bad investment for you

bm is a mistake
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Probably the worst unique idea I've had yet
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>>154615993
Isn't some of his damage fire? The green shit
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>Enter arena
>Teleported to center
>Immediately killed by 1000 chicken archers

Are you just meant to instance reset in this situation? I really don't want to go all the fuck the way through this map again, but I have no idea how I'm supposed to get past this.
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>>154634920
varunastra-based build do fine

>>154635113
too similar to fb
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>>154635284
If it gets out of control; basically yes or you can just suicide rush if you have no self respect. It's a total shit if you have bad aoe clear, which is why it exists i guess.
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>>154635284
>no decoy
>no golem
>attack on left click
>bad flasks

reset your account
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>>154634983
>bm is a mistake
Why? I can curse on hit instead of blasphemy, and all the other auras suck for strength phys builds.
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>>154635295
I just really want a unique where you can stack armour and trash dudes; like an armour version of dreamfeather.
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>>154635443
How about a unique jewel that says "Increases and Reductions to Armour in Radius also apply to Melee Damage"
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>>154635404

hatred gives your totems chill on hit
AA gives you phys resist and makes stuff unable to chase you

dunno if you are basing your build on PPT's, but he went bm because he is playing ssf and has access to gear beyond his streamer_rng
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>>154635868
has no*
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>>154635936
Both of those chill effects are only useful against trash and this is a boss-killing league.
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>>154635443

why not something that grants you a degen aura that is based on your armor

a bit like RF or Blood rage, in which you also take a portion of the damage it inflicts on yourself (so you'd also need high regen to sustain it or phys reduction, favoring juggernaugt builds)
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>>154621001
This. Go with something you make yourself (even if it's based on some other build) and gear is fucking free. Made a melee gladi, decent weapons for a few c and bringer of rain for cheap
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>>154624609
The game is definitely too focused on health nodes and big hp/ES pools. Has been forever
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>>154636014
you are going to need to kill a lot of trash before you reach the boss-killing stage

and thinking 11% phys resist is pointless for bosses will lead you to a playing style that will get you killed anyway
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>>154636041
Degen makes no sense in the context of armour though.

What about a slowing effect, like magnets and shit because armour is heavy?

>1% increased Quality of socketed Temporal Chains per 1000 Armour
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>>154625631
Melee is fun and good right now, try it
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>>154636241
11% phys resist if you stay still, which i shouldn't be as a guy that puts down totems and runs/jumps around.

Also, i'll take 11% more life and BM over 11% less phys damage taken any day.
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>>154636271
the degen is just a stand in for a proper thorns or reflect-based thing that doesnt exists in poe properly

there was a super-slowing build not long ago and GGG hated it and gimped temp chains. i doubt they will want to let that happen again
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>>154629794
Melee build with do little life is going to suck. Go duelist or jugg
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>tfw you realize you can use heat flasks for strongboxes that freeze

Holy fuck, I'm an imbecile.
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>>154636351

you are still while you cast totems, which you will be doing plenty on those boss fights

stacked with a +30% quality enfeeble thats almost %50 less phys even with the effectiveness penalty from bosses. if you think your armor nodes give you anything close to that, you will soon realize you are mistaken
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>>154635284
Why the fuck do you have default attack on your LMB you waste of semen?
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>>154608018
Thinking of playing this game, what is best class for beginners? Any advice for a new dude? I was really into Diablo 3, is it anything like that?
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>>154635284
i guess you got past this point already?
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>>154637241
Best class for beginners is a bow ranger using Lightning Arrow for mobs and Blast Rain for bosses.

Don't forget to pick up increased maximum life nodes.
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>>154637241
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1041989
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>>154637241
>I was really into Diablo 3, is it anything like that?

no

almost all your D3 common sense will not apply to poe. check out: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Diablo_Player's_Guide_to_Path_of_Exile
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>>154637478
kys
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Does your own ele penetration apply to reflected damage?
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>>154637630
no
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>>154637241
Like people already mentioned, going Ranger and using bows is a smooth way to get into it.

Mind your defences, you can never have too much life and try to keep those elemental resistances as high as you can.
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>>154637241
YOUR WASTIGN YOU'RE TIME
GET THE FUCKO UT OF OUR GENERAL
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>>154637705
I did try playing Ranger and Duelist. Attacking as Ranger just frustrates me because I move using my mouse and attack using it too so it's kinda unresponsive when trying to shoot people.
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why people recomend ranger?

bows are weakass shit unless you know what you are doing
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>>154637819
>trusting advice given by /poeg/
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>>154637803
unbind attack from left click
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>>154637803
There's a skill hotkey for move only, it's pretty much mandatory to have it on mouse 1 instead of default attack
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God i love infernal blow, smashing down some boss and all these minions exploding all around; it's like some power up sequence from dbz.
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>>154637890
>>154637898


What other button do I use then :((((
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>>154638073
you never ever need to use your normal attack. just bind lmb ito walk
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Currently trying out a Spectre-focused Necromancer with the Unending Hunger jewel, was wondering if anyone has recommendations for what monster to run? I had hoped Evangelists would gain increased AoE from Soul Eater, but they only gain damage and cast speed, while Stygian Revenants get massively increased attack speed, but their AI is utter garbage. And does Undying Hunger stack in any way? Is it simply 2 separate 20% chances to gain Soul Eater? Can spectres only have 1 instance of Soul Eater?
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Just come down from Oro's Flicker in last league
Any other builds which are just pure fun to play?
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>Can't beat Chimera
Well fuck me
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>>154638328
people have died from epilepsy while playing oro flicker

do you have industrial strobe lights and fire alarms around your house because they are "fun" too?
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name of people wanting to buy shit from me includes the words:

harambe
swag
420
yolo
pepe
any streamer name
any french word

>add to ignore list
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>>154639657
>any french word

I like it.
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since /r/Pathofexile is alergic to autohotkey and scripting in general ill just leave this here

http://pastebin.com/Nm5qKZQh

description included
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>>154638473
>RIPing to videogames
Wow casuals
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>>154639657
>Doesn't include cyrillic
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>>154638473
>he doesn't set off fire alarms for fun
Fucking casuals I swear to god.
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>>154640083
just tried it and now my system32 folder is gone
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>templar can't buy lmp

does anyone have chris' mobile no??
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>>154640309
;^)
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>>154640083

dont have a melee char to test the namelocking but it works on barrels as mentioned. nice work

why is lebbit afraid of ahk? its the single most important qol utility in gaming
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>>154636720
idk what else to do with it? I haven't even filled up my empty slots.

>>154637242
Yeah, I just kept running back to it over and over until I

I had like 80% of an XP bar when I started Daresso's Dream, and by the time I finished A4 I had 0%. I managed to unlock Merciless, though, so now the game's back to being easy.
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>>154640638
GGG once said that scripts that do more than "one action per click/button press" are considered hacks and arent allowed, reddit is scared, despite ggg not having the tools to tell what kind of script you are running unless its something fairly obvious like botting. Heck they cant even catch the poehud users since it stopped writing into memory
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>>154635404
Hatred and HoA are amazing
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>even crit builds are using controlled destruction for 44% _more_ damage

well that was well designed by ggg
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r8 my build, it's a varunastra wielding max block gladiator

poeurl.com/L1u
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>>154641392

Firestorm + Echo + Increased Duration +Elemental Focus + Fire Pen + ????
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>>154641364

should have been like a spell RT

otherwise -100% raw crit chance is nothing for assasin or a well itemized inq build
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>>154641364
No idea why they didn't make it LESS critical chance. 100% reduced is fucking nothing. Like, half of a dagger.
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>>154641562
faster casting
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damn i miss my poison bladefall trapper
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>>154641562
>Increased Duration

That's a meme. If you're literally passing through the duration cluster, you should probably take them, but not sacrifice a gem slot. The DPS is increased only for time of what Increased Duration adds and if you're constantly stacking storms. Rather just use a damage gem.
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Proof that Zana loves me and only me
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>>154642145

>copying streamer """""builds""""""""""
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>>154642232
That's me
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>>154641610
Funnily enough, it punishes non-crit builds more than crit builds due to elemental overload.
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>>154639958

That blade vortex drop from 60+ to 90+
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>>154641335
Both get fucked over by mob resists.
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>>154641392
no strong leech = dead melee
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>make it to act 4 for the first time
>get a unique drop
>"now how do i sell this"
>turns out game is p2w
lol.
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>>154643725
>>"now how do i sell this"
>>turns out game is p2w
How did those steps work out
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>>154643063
that's why your support runs ele weakness
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>>154643848
well if you don't know or believe me then i suggest you find out before wasting more time with this p2w trash

basically you're locked out of trading if you don't pay.
>>
Uhhh can't you craft attributes on belts? Why not?
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>>154643943
>p2w
>single player game with optional unbalanced coop
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>>154644096
?
>>
ded
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>>154643943
>basically you're locked out of trading if you don't pay.

You literally aren't though. You aren't even deterred in anyway.
>>
a thread
dead
briefly lives on in the lessons taught to the shitposter
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>>154635284
Are you the fag who made the thread on poe forums crying about it? I bet you are.
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is it gay to pick scion over marauder when both trees take equal amount of points with negligable differences while ofcourse sacrificing all good ascendancies if i simply prefer to listen to scions moans over marauder grumps?
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>>154644531
it's stupid
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why are some skill gems corrupted? not talking about the vaal ones
did that make them into 20 quality?
are they worse than a regular 20q skill gem?
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>>154644824
Skill gems dropped from corrupted Gemcutter strongboxes will drop as corrupted. Using a Vaal orb on a skill gem can increase its quality or its level (even above the regular cap), but they can also reduce those statistics, and sometimes, do absolutely jack shit. Getting a level 21 version of a gem that scales hard with levels - like Blade Vortex - is a surefire way to earn a shitton of dough
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>>154644930
maybe that's why i'm seeing a lot of q20 bv gems
if i get one it's just like a normal 20q bv gem right?
they are cheaper i guess since there are more
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>>154644531
Who plays with sound on? Just listen to music
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>>154645075
It's the same, corrupted gems still gain exp, and even if they've dropped a level from the corruption, the cap still stays at 20
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Does the scion chieftain ascendancy damage boost work with AC totems? I want to use scion hierophant with bringer of rain for the build
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>>154645236
thanks gonna pick up one of those then
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About to unlock the map device for the first time.

I would really like to try out all the maps, but Atlas of Worlds looks like it would heavily reward you when you focus on one path first. What do?
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So, Trypanons only cost 60C now.

With the CoC changes, what's a good Trypanon CoC build?
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>>154645875
do all the maps
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What's the best way to get GGGBB on my ES chest? Vorici's guaranteed 3 green, or just spam chromas?
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>>154615626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufUcEOQiYto
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>>154646090
>open video
>ziggyd gaming guide
>close video
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>>154646001
Not too much of a setback?
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>>154646227
>not watching our guy
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>>154646227
>ignoring good advice you asked for because you dislike the streamer
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ZiggyD is NOT OUR GUY
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>>154646390
yes he is
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>>154646286
>>154646342
0.05$ has been deposited into your account
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>>154640785
Put click to move there.
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>>154646473
I could have just reworded what he said in that video to no trigger your autism, but nah.
>>
>Kitava's Thirst socketed with blade vortex
>whirling blades 5 link using voidbringer and fevered mind to bring mana cost up to 120
>stack attack speed

Y/N ?
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>>154646264
what do you mean a setback
>>
>>154646227
>had to open the video
Get a plugin newfag.
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>>154646948
Singular path guys will get much more value out of shapers orbs and cartographers sextants.
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>>154647054
the fuck? singular path guys won't even get shaper's orbs because you only get them from certain maps
>>
for a PvE beginner would i be better off with a duelist or a witch
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>>154647197
Thought they had a chance to drop on any map.
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>>154647239
>pve
>implying there's anything else
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>>154640083
Did a quick test with basic melee attack and it works. This sort of makes me want to try infernal blow and wild strike.
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>>154647239
melee in general is fucked in this game
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>Essence was supposed to be the greatest league for self-crafting
>I just autistically hoard essences until I get t7s then sell them
How do I get over the psychological barrier that tells me I'm wasting something valuable and have fun with self-crafting
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>Twinned Canyon with Vuln, Boss Life/AoE, and Power Charges
>MFW I find what they changed it to
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>>154648137
they don't even hurt anymore, it's a t6. I got hit by the dog charge in a vuln map and it dealt what, 2k damage?
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>hope ProjectPT will Rape Fuckwilsons ass so hard. this lil nice boycunt needs some good fuck
which one of you was it?
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>>154647352
well thats good to know
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>>154648137
mine was way worse
>first time excavation yellow vaaled because wanted the extra shit in one go
>twinned too
>get to boss expecting maybe 2 chaos golems ezpz shit
>mfw 6 dudes throwing shit that does 4k dmg at me
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>>154649618
that's the game's way of weeding out retards
>>
>>154648137
>>154649618
>doing plaza for the first time ever
>4 additional projectiles
>drop to 5 fps when she starts shitting out skellingtons
>resurrect at checkpoint
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>>154646009
gogole vorici calc
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>Die with Izaro at 1% hp 3rd phase

that's enough vidya for the month
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>>154650787
>checkpoint
:^(
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>>154652457
Also I ran into this while doing the labyrinth. Is this normal? It didn't drop anything worthwhile, in any case.
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>>154648137
I posted this earlier

>1st zana mission
>canyon
>aids mods

>mfw they removed the old village ruin from zana mission pool but not new canyon
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Who jelly?
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>>154652758
That's pretty normal. Rarity gives fuckall on strongboxes
>>154652983
>3.3k health
>Not showing league
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>>154652983
i found an exalt day 3 so not jelly at all
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>>154652983
>>
>3.48mb .png
fucking idiots
>>
>>154651314
thx
>>
yesterday i found one exalt from merc lab chest,one from ashen wood,an abyssus from a random map and a consuming dark on ehc :D
>>
What do you do with low tier maps? Turn them into chisels?
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>>154653279
Stop with the emoticons you little shit.
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>>154653513
:(
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>>154639958
>Ball Lightning out of nowhere
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>>154639958
>hardcucks are unironically totemcucks
lol
>>
>>154653548
as a mean to apply curses, not as a main skill, don't kid yourself
>>
>>154642232
What streamer uses lacerate?
>>
>>154653863
Ok, that makes much more sense.
>>
>>154653929
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Atwitch.tv+lacerate+poe
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>>154653863
Is Ball Lightning really that bad?

It was one of my shortlisted build options for this league.
>>
twitch is a mistake
>>
I just spent 2 hours farming a map for the next tier without realizing it was a dead end on the atlas.
>>
>>154654647
Did you have fun?
>>
>>154640083
Um item pickup works for me with this
>>
So when something on poe.trade is listed with a price of 2.5c or something, what does that even mean? How do you give somebody half a chaos orb?
>>
>>154654725
do you mean you are able to pick up all items by holding mouse button and hovering over them? do you have item pick up key ( like ALT ) enabled in game settings?
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>>154655375
Yes. No.
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>>154617219
no one uses trade chat
>>
Pretty addicted to this game rn and can't get enough discussion over it. Less it is so slow and streamers are way to egotistic for me to get into them so I'm left with you guys, thanks for the post anons, love you
>>
>>154655495
>No
maybe thats why. I did use the wildcard "*" for the hotkey to make it work with modifiers like ALT, CTRL or SHIFT but maybe PoE somehow takes the input over if that option is enabled, because it still works on things like picking up karui spirits and similar... indie devs and their shitcode
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>mfw my guild leader knows about /poeg/ and asks me if catposter is still around

What the fuck I thought he was a normie
>>
first of all i am not affiliated with poeg in any way
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>>154639958
>mfw not even playing one of those and having two chars at 80+
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>>154654717
i guess
i did get a map with +23 strongboxes (and then fucked up the only cartographer's)
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>>154655101
By using other currency?
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>>154656170
80+ is no longer anything to be proud of since a retarded 1st grader can grind dried lake in hc
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>>154653863
I'm going to go and make a Ball Lightning Elementalist that is Shaper viable

Fuck you
>>
if i corrupt a lvl 19 gem to lvl 20, will it be able to level to 21?
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>>154657038
No. It will be stuck at 20.
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>>154657038
No only way to get 21 is to corrupt a ovo 20
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>>154654387
i think it's a good leveling ability but since you can NEVER hit targets more often than 5x per second no matter how many balls are on the field, then you miss out on a multiplier from cast speed increases. Plus, many tiny bolts makes it much harder to proc shock compared to one big bolt.
>>
>Cospri's Will gives me a 4th curse
I don't even know what to do with that slot... poacher's mark for the frenzy charges? warlord's for endurance?
>>
>>154657340
are you retarded? it hits 5 times per second per ball
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>>154642980
Crit chance cannot go under 5% unless you take RT or use something that can't crit like unarmed (without the amulet) or incinerate.
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>>154654387
it's just another old school skill GGG has completely forgotten about and doesn't care about buffing because it won't sell mtx
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>complete lab on scion
>look at ascendency
>+40 to strength
>+passive skill point
delete character

okay who do i play instead of THAT
>>
>>154646923
Sounds so stupid that it might actually work. I want to do Kitava's Thirst Desecrate + DD but I'm not sure what skill would do the trick. Cyclone would be ideal since I think the spells are cast at your feet but not sure if Cyclone will go over 100 mana even with a 6L and fevered mind. Also how the fuck would you even sustain that.
>>
>>154657948
>not understanding the potential of the best class in game
your loss kiddo
>>
is cast on melee kill worth anything?
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>>154657340
It's 5x per second per cast, so LMP/GMP would be worthless.

Would ball lightning totems be decent?
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>>154657550
wait, really?
then why don't people use it? the base damage is huge, and it's a projectile + AoE so you can get damage buffs from pretty much anything
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>>154658082
>so LMP/GMP would be worthless
LMP/GMP is still useful to get good coverage of a pack
just like it is with every skill in the game
the shotgunning nerf did what it was supposed to do and made those gems into a tradeoff of raw damage paid for AoE coverage, only a few abilities still shotgun.
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>>154658085
Probably because of this
>>
for some reason my path is super fucking laggy when I first start it, and it remains that way for about 20 minutes until it's fine. it's like the game has to load everything that whole time. does anyone else get this? it's super annoying playing like this in hardcore.
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>>154658265
Does it gain increased damage from Drillneck since it has a 100% pierce? Voltaxic BL traps?
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>>154658403
Sounds like you might have issues with your HDD or RAM.
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>>154658742
>HDD

that's what I was afraid of, it is install there instead of my SSD. I hope that if I just defrag it everything will be ok, I've made huge changes to my HDD memory wise in the past week, probably needs a defrag.
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i dunno faam its pretty shit to be quite honest
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>>154657340
But that's incorrect. You can only hit 5x per second per cast, not over all casts. If you cast it three times and an enemy is in the area of all three balls, it gets hit 15x per second.
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>>154657996

Was messing around with kitava's on standard and I came to the conclusion that the item is trash. 30% is just too low and inconsistent to trigger properly. I think its only real use is for buffs/utility.

2x fevered mind or 1x fevered mind + voidbringer on a 5link should bring you over 100 mana on cyclone but I don't think cyclone is fast enough to be consistent in triggering kitava's.

Overall I am disappointed in the unique
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>>154658074
gonna give myself a you here and assume its because it does fuck all for single target
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>>154658403
defragging your shit might help
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>>154659038

It was ok for gimmicky builds before they nerfed jar.
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>>154659138
jar?
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>>154659038
Is there any boss that doesn't have any adds at all? How the fuck are you supposed to fill up flasks then?
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>>154659191
most bosses dont have adds until half the fight, and stuff like vaal bosses dont respawn adds
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>>154659173
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jar+poe
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>>154659191

Daresso. They refill during phases
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>>154659173
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Writhing_Jar
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>>154658265
But there are so many supports that give More damage these days that not being able to use Conc. Effect hardly matters.

When Ball Lightning was a new thing, Controlled Destruction and Elemental Focus were the fevered dreams of madmen and fools. I have a feeling that if we revisit the skill it will be somewhat viable.

I've done most of what I wanted to do this league already, so I'm gonna try it out. CI MoM Ball Lightning Witch with Vaal Pact and Ghost Reaver. Pledge of Hands with BL > Life Leech > Slower Proj > CD > Light Pen > Ele Focus. Watch this space.
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>>154659381
i'd use pierce over slower proj, except for bosses
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>>154659539
>Pierce on Ball Lightning

Based Retard
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>>154658085
I played a BL+Spark on a Voltaxic CoC build in Prophecy. It had silly high damage, but since CoC is no longer about spell spam I would have to bet it sucks now.

>>154658632
Drillneck works. Honestly sounds fine for trash clearing. Sounds like shit for single target once you run out of traps. However, Weapon Swapping to a +Lv Staff/Bow for Conc Eff Fire Nova Mine should be enough single target for any Trap/Mine build.
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>>154659606
>(10-19)% more Projectile Damage
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>>154659807
do you think 19% more damage is worth a gem slot?
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>>154659807
Slower Projectiles is higher. There's no reason to do any gem swapping.
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>2017 - 1
>playing poe

its like you like shit and want to stick to it

the game is garbage right now

if you keep playing it you send the same message millions of people are sending to riot when playing League

poe is a cash grab of the same genre as ksp now
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>>154660438
of course it is. are you too poor for a six link or what?

>>154660542
it also makes you want to kill yourself because ball lightnings don't even reach the edge of the screen
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>>154660626
good post, here's your upvote
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Why do some guides tell me to use a ruby flask for utility? Is +6% max resist really that great?

I'm capped on resist btw
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>>154661828
if you're looking for guides for fire spells it's because of reflect
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>CI babbies can reach 12-15k+ es easily
>life peasants forever stuck at 6-9k
nice game
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>>154660760
what's your ball lightning 6l?
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Jesus Christ.
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>>154660626
what's wrong with league? i think it hasn't gotten shittier, it's just staled. nothing's happened with lol in ages
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>>154660626
what the fuck are you even talking about
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Just came back to the game after a years i think, why is it night everywhere? an aesthetic change or is it something
to do with the lore?
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LB+inverse knockback
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>>154663869
It's a thing you released and have to go kill on top of a pyramid
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>>154660760
you need slower projectiles for ball lightning, why else would you be using the skill?
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>>154663869
Oh it was just that quest that i didn't remember.
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>>154663869
the sun doesn't shine for faggots like you
enjoy the eternal darkness, gay boy
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>>154664307
this art is so familiar
is that from that mangaka manga?
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>>154664616
No idea sorry, got it from /a/ some time ago.
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can't decide on a build.. wanna play shadow or witch but i can't build them for shit.

should I just go juggernaut sweeper?
i don't really wanna but i've never gotten a good sweep char.. but i've played melee as either marauder or duelist for like 5 decades
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>>154664948
do what you want anon
the possibilities are endless
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>Login
>It auto connects to global chat
>its literally /pol/
Poetards?
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>>154665069
soo edge of madness viper strike slayer for "free" melee splash? becuase i have thought about it, just feels weird to walk up to the shadow side as duelist
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>>154664149
Vacuum totems with Sire of Shards and Empire's Grasp were a special snowflake thing multiple leagues ago.
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>>154665205
follow
your
dreams
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So for ball lightning i'd try the links...
slower projectiles
elemental focus (use orb of storms to apply shock)
increased AoE
spell echo
and then the 6th slot faster casting or crit damage
slot in LMP/GMP over your weakest gem for clearing packs
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I really wanna run it, but i'm pretty sure i'll rip.
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>>154665205
>edge of madness
Truly mad. Can that even be made viable? All the flat chaos you can get + added chaos gem and is that even enough to make it any good?

Wouldn't you rather just get a good Malicious prefix 1h and roll Bino's in the offhand or can it even prolif the viper strike poison?
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>>154665418
i will do it.
thanks for the motivaton anon
here i come ehc
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>>154657829
>Ball lightning
>oldschool
I'm getting old
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>>154665563
just don't get hit
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>dropped the best rolled doomsower in ehc

>but kongor exists anyway
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>>154665452
Slower Projectiles
Elemental Focus
Controlled Destruction
Leech
Spell Echo


Replace Spell Echo with Lightning Penetration if using Pledge.
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>>154666393
light pen is never an optional gem

unless you are runing inquisitor, then you dont need it at all
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>>154665563
"""""hardcore""""" indeed
>>
>hardcore players
>only run easy maps
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>>154666393
Increased AoE should replace controlled destruction or spell echo in that setup. Not only is it a good QoL improvement but the AoE actually increases your damage as the enemy will spend more time in the ball (like slower projectiles)
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>hardcore players
>playing the game the correct way
>laugh at fecalfowl attempting to discredit them
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my game is crashing every 10 minutes since 2.4.
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>>154667024
>correct
the game literally isn't designed around hardcore.
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>>154667024
if the correct way is to avoid tough contents then sure
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Brewmasters! What off meta skill have you made work this league? How did you do it? Be sure to explain the level of success you have had.
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>>154665579
dont know but i made a tree

problem is viper strike scales on phys and edge of madness does little to no phys

www.poeurl.com/L3D

probably a bad idea, might be better to do a shadow with binos
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>>154665563
>>154666043
>Path of Kill It Before It Kills You
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>>154667218
The game literally is Chris even said they design around the logout function
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>>154668045
thats more like a bandaid

if it was designed around hardcore, damage would be much more predictable and woud ramp up evenly
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>>154668045
don't bother arguing with it. shitcrows can't into logic and reason; they're like liberals - beached whales desperately floundering in shallow water while the rest of us look at them and laugh
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>>154668045
They don't design around it, they left it in as a band-aid to leave hardcore playable.

It's obvious that hardcore is just an amusing throwback to the game's roots in roguelikes. Some people play hardcore but the bulk of the game is not designed with them in mind.
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>>154668209

chris said they wouldnt balance around HC becuause it would make the game too easy, hence the logout option

if you think this translatates as it being balanced around hc, your brain is in a worse state than those of the shitcrows you speak about
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How much I can get for this? Please be honest.
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>>154667934
On a serious note. Torture chamber boss laser beam is instant, and with -14% max i feel like it'd kill me so fucking fast even at 7k hp.

I'll run it anyway fuck it haha
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uwu whats this?
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>>154668209
Sad!
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>>154668579

A Dark Souls reference.
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>>154668401
which league?

it looks like about 2-3ex in shitbird league and around 80-100c in mancore
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>>154668405
it's not one big hit, it's a degen, if you don't have a 2s reaction time, you won't die to the beam even with stacked damage mods. did you never run plaza in 2.3? goddess beam degened MUCH faster than t11 shock & horror now
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>>154668045
>>154668189
>>154668209
>>154667218
you are all wrong
havent you seen from the trailers how Chris plays the game? He has absolutely no clue whatsoever, all the balancing is based on the most upvoted reddit posts. I cant blame GGG though, in our days this is a very often practice, that even many AAA developers arent shy of.
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>>154668729
Standard league
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>>154668987
perma std? then no clue.

better ask on lebbit
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>>154668045
Does someone have the screenshot of that

I fucking hate forgetting to save good stuff
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>>154668729

Essence.
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plz gib brittle
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>>154668881
>the dev is retarded
wow ebin memes bro watch this i can balance the game in an instant
>temporal chains deleted
GGG should hire me lmao
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>>154669225
but brittle is worthless now, idiot.
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>>154666827
It still hits your ST dps, which is what Ball Lightning has always struggled with. Even without AoE it's going to be deleting packs, so I can't see a reason to sacrifice any ST dps at all for QoL.
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If i see anyone with slavrunes in their name whispering me about anything, i just report them and ignore

do PoE a favour and do the same
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>>154669414
>It still hits your ST dps
no, it doesn't, because the enemy will stay in each ball for 39% longer.
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>>154669418
russians have has much right to play a f2p international game as you

the reason you're being a little bitch here is that you're too afraid to do the same in global 1, i'd just report you and get your bitch ass muted, bitch.
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>>154668987
Nothing on standard is worth anything.

However, if you want a serious answer, probably like 5c. I cannot emphasise enough how fucked the standard economy is. All items are either >5c or dozens of exalts.

Stop playing Standard.
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>>154669594
just run it with a carcass as inqui or inside traps as sabo

all aoe problems are solved then
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>>154669602
ive already reported and ignored four of your brethren

its only a matter of time before its your turn, slav
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>>154669752

I am the Anon who posted >>154668401. The guy who said Standard is shitposting. I am in essence. Between 2 to 3 exalted then?
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>Area contains 36 strongboxes

What in the unholy fuck
I thought it was just gonna be one really good strongbox
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>>154669980

This is the best prophecy.
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>>154669980
yeah, it's awesome.
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>>154669931
max quality in it and see how it fares vs the top pdps sword in poe.trade for essence

then highball it a little

anyone serious about it will haggle it down to a reasonable worth
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>>154669980
post haul
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>>154669980
bring a bunch of vaals and corrupt all the jeweler's and armourer's, you'll thank me later

shame you procced it in an average quant map
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>>154669980
Is it worth it to use chaos on a strongbox?
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>>154670323
No not really maybe on diviners
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>>154670323
not really. chance are pretty much the highest orb worth wasting on a strongbox.
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>>154670083
>>154670141
>>154670209
>>154670269
>>154670323
>Getting fucked in the ass by phys reflect

I have made a huge mistake
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>>154669980
Congratulations on your Sophie's Choice map. Remember, you only have six portals.
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>>154670451
if you can't run phys reflect why'd you even enter the map...?
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>>154670451

I feel bad for you. Gonna have to ask a friend to help you.
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>>154670424
Unless it's carto, div or arcanist
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>>154670451
You ripped?? Hc??
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>>154670647
even these are more worth rolling with alts
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>>154670451
could have just sold the map
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>try to get defensive nodes to get decent survivabiliy
>lol no damage

>try to get damage nodes to get decent dps
>lol no survivability

what build solves this dilemma poeg?? and it can't cost more than 5ex, i'm not rich
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>>154670959
Lacerate Slayer
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>>154670959
abuse whatever overpowered shit is topping the charts right now.
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>>154670959
git gud family
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>>154670959

abuse max block, you can get a 32% shield and an anvil for 1c in HC
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>watching a streamer
>they're playing shitcore

what's even the point? Why bother getting better gear when dying barely matters.
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>>154671323
hc league is a ghost town
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>>154671385
is it because people want to do atlas content and not get obliterated?
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>>154671464
it's because hc is always a ghost town unless gg doesn't fuck up

they always fuck up
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Why is there so few Gladiators in the HC ladder?
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>>154671239
so some kind of gladiator build? even with a good base block shield, it's hard to reach max block to make it worth it
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>>154671697
It doesn't work well with BV
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what was the discord again?
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>>154671464

Hardcore is full of random bullshit deaths.

>sync problems
>random disconnects
>crashes
>servers shitting the bed and the game freezing

Is not fun.

>inb4 works for me git gud xD
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>>154672016
>is not fun
but neither is a league where dying doesn't matter.
i'll choose cancer over aids, ty
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>>154672016
Works for me git gud.
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>>154672016
>He doesn't have a script that closes the game
hmm really makes you think
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>>154672131
How does HC "matter"?
It's a video game lol
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>>154672131
I don't know losing 10% of exp is really frustrating.
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>>154672271
lol and you play video games for fun lol
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>>154672271

dont fall for the meme

i play hc but honestly, if you have fun in sc play sc. hs is for people who cant stay awake in sc but still enjoy poe if there is retarded risk shaping your build choices

plus hc econ is much more comfy. everything is cheaper
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>>154672016
As someone who dies around mid-tier maps every character it's almost rarely from server problems. Crazy spike damage is usually what does me in.

I view it more like a castle defense where the challenge is to see how far I can go before I die knowing full well I'll die at some point. Softcore just loses it's appeal to me since the only real challenge is how much time I can invest into the game.
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>>154670451
Jesus that was chaotic, managed to pull through with Lightning Arrow + Physical to Lightning support though so It's all good.
Here's the haul.

It was really fucking close to, I was on my final portal
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>>154672271
Video games are the only thing I have left in life. I take them very seriously. Pls help me
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>>154672437
Uniques are cheaper, but I find rares and jewels to be more expensive on HC. It gets worse even as the league ages and people stop playing, as there aren't enough rares to keep prices sane.
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>>154672569
>no diviners
pretty bad desu
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>>154672271
PoE without excitement is not even a game worth looking at in my opinion. If there's no risk in doing stuff except -10% XP there's no excitement for me.
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shitcrows simply don't get it

they don't understand the concept of "beating a game"

they're perfectly fine with being woefully mediocre at everything they do. they have no ambitions and no goals. it's very depressing

and most of them claim that this game is easy and requires no skill, and that being "good" at it is nothing more than a sign of autism. of course, this is them just making excuses and deflecting to hide themselves from the truth - the truth being that they are lazy, useless, stupid, vapid SHITCROWS

but again, if this game is easy like they claim, why are they playing it in the easiest way possible? why not play hardcore?

they have a long list of excuses for avoiding HC, the most common of them being "i don't want to waste my time" which is silly because they're wasting their time to begin with

but anyway, i firmly believe that casuals all over the internet really need to step up and GIT GUD. rising to the challenge, overcoming it and accomplishing your goals feels great, even if it is "just a game"
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>>154672625
Nothing wrong with that, fuck normies honestly
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>>154672984
waiting on your hc shaper kill, kid
"shitcrows" have done it a week ago already
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>>154672569
that a unique flask?
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>>154672769
Mentally, I still see death as a failure even if the time cost is only a few minutes to run back (which is a big hit to efficiency) in addition to possibly hours of lost experience.

The only real difference is that I don't really want to run normal/cruel again.
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>>154673079
>watching a shaper youtube vid to see what the fight is like
>guy gets instantly obliterated through 15k-22k ES

shit was scary yo
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>>154672984
What is "beating" POE?
Killing shaper? ;)
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>>154671239
>spend even more points in defenses than normal
>somehow still have damage
???
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>>154671723
>14 from duelist
>5 from marauder
>9 from ranger
>3 from Tempest Shield
>8 from anvil
>4-6 from ascendancy
32+14+9+5+3+8+4 = 75


Then theres the extra 8 from painforged if you dont want to go for the marauder part and are happy to flick between 70/78
????
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>>154672736
dunno. ive able to buy 2 BiS jewels for my build for around 15-25c

those would be 1ex (40+ c) in softcore essence
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>>154673225
>Mentally, I still see death as a failure
No, because you still get to play your character in the league it was created in. It's not possible, psychologically, to take a sc death as hard as a hc death. And everything leading to it is not as exciting, because there's no risk of ever loser that expensive 6L you just bought or those lvl 21 gems you just corrupted.
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>>154673225
I feel you, after running maps for a week or so having to go back to normal/cruel is like pulling fingernails. Shit is boring as hell. Usually I just end up taking a break from PoE.
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>>154672915
I had to do this when my gpu fried itself and I had to play a few days on my integrated gpu.
>>
hc is nowhere near as comfy as sc
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>>154673217
nah, it's one of the manaflasks nobody uses
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>>154673368
what skill/build? I understand getting all the block nodes will easily make you reach max block, but you hit the same issue I mentioned above (stretch tree for defensive nodes = not enough left for damage)

gladiator doesn't offer much offensively besides gratuitous violence
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>>154617219
Because I don't have 1 exalt.
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>>154617219
because you can get a bino's for 5c on poexyz
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Is CI BV Pathfinder the most OP build ever created?
>immune to chaos
>immune to bleed
>immune to status ailments
>incredible aoe damage
>incredible single target damage
>incredible mitigation
>high mobility
>100% uptime on flasks

it has literally zero downsides
how can other builds even compete?
>>
>>154673587
>hc
>all builds are much cheaper / currency has higher acquisitive power
>tankyness and clever ways to safely kill shit are rewarded instead of all being super clearspeed clear meta

hc is comfy
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>>154673897
i refuse to play girl chars because its like catfishing
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>>154672984
>because they're wasting their time to begin with
Maybe they have only a limited amount of time to waste and choose to waste it in what they see fits them better? I mean, I don't get why HC players are so hostile against SC players. I don't see the same coming from SC players.

I play SC and I don't want to have to run a log out macro when the game decides to fuck me in the ass. Instead I just eat up my xp loss and continue with my day. I still avoid builds that aren't HC viable because fuck I'm not getting killed when a white monster sneezes at me.

My ambitions and goals in life are outside PoE and I play games for fun. I don't find leveling a new character every time I die fun. It's as simple as that. If you can't deal with that you can go fuck yourself.
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>>154673596

I was doing a max block flickerstriker using outmatch and outlast.

Damage isn't as good as a real flicker but the extra 25% chance to get a frenzy charge makes up for it and you'll still flit around fine.

I did rip to end game lab izaro at level 81 though so take its success with a pinch of salt
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>>154673368
On top of that you need to get life. How much points you have left? Around 20 for damage?
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>>154674041
there's nothing wrong with playing softcore
some hardcore players suffer from a victim complex that makes them seek the little details they feel makes them superior to others in a video game of all things
>>
Any new fun builds for Essence? I saw the totem pizza build and that shit is insane.
>>
Is it safe to attempt Merciless Izaro with 4.3k HP,
41 Evasion, 40 Dodge, 44 Spell Dodge and permanent Fortify?
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>>154674041
Honestly if I could find softcore fun or rewarding I would play it. I thought about making a softcore character for essence I just didn't see myself staying engaged long enough to make it to maps.
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>>154674103

>tfw you keep forgetting to post images and just want to play with your ripped char because it was comfy as fuck

>>154674165
most of the shield nodes are also damage nodes

had 158% life and total of 332% increased damage
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>>154673897
>there's like 1 CI BV on the ladder and he's not even Pathfinder

This has to be the most overrated piece of trash skill I've ever fucking seen.
>>
>>154674334
Yes, unless you let him get elemental buffs, those stats are more than enough for merc Izaro.
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>>154674371
Is it not the same amount of rewarding if you just don't die?
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>>154674395
Care to share more about your setup? What uniques? Other defenses?
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>>154673596
Face breakers bringer of rain should work if you still feel low damage you can skip some block nodes and Carry a rumi's you will also need elemental resist nodes/jewels take sentinel diamond skin and the ones right of the life below duelist also take the ones above sentinel to get the jewel node and the jewel node before the life wheel
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>>154672915
>not 8
kys
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When are they adding the new skills?
It's getting stale with the same skills every league
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>>154674602
>Face breakers bringer of rain
>skipping the one largest damage item that there is in the game for fb
>>
>>154674680
never
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>>154674452
In theory, my brain just gets lazy when I know the risk of death isn't that serious and I play sloppy and stupid because I can.
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>>154674763
I guess that kind of makes sense.
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>>154672984
>shitcrows are the mediocre ones
>they invariable achieve higher levels and better gear in shorter periods of time
ebin memes bro
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>>154674452
No, because you still play around the economy. For example, there's a market for high level crafting bases in hc, which rewards players farming high level maps and staying alive. There's no such thing in softcore because once those enter the market, they never leave it. Everything feels more meaningless in sc, because there isn't a feeling of being rewarded for being at the "top" and farming high level maps. Because death is relatively meaningless, everyone just farms everything with a tabula until they saved up enough for a real 6L, which cheapens the whole progress of gear progression being needed to farm higher content safely.
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>All those mods
>No reflect

Thank you based god
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>>154674870
For example it's the difference between farming a safe zone to max out my resistances before trying a risky boss vs going "eh these are probably good enough i'll just drop a portal just in case". Not saying that's how everyone plays softcore I just know that's how I did/would play it.
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just found an exalt
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>>154674763
Yeah this happens to me too but I'm always tired when I fire up POE so it sucks not being able to turn off your head in HC
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>shredding nearly everything in the game
>get to lunaris temple
>vagan wants to duel
>KEK alright buddy lets do this
>nearly 1 shots me
>cant tp
alt f4 is the best skill in the game
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>>154674618
can you still see bearers? i'm afraid of going lower than 4 because i was already experiencing the loss of visual cues like curses and auras
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>>154673429
>No
Yes, actually. When I die I feel bad.
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>>154675030
nice. I found my first ever two leagues ago. I stashed it and proceeded to die a couple of days later. Never even spent it on anything.
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>>154674334

non uber izaro is ez as fuck
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>>154675142
What Ranger build is this? Can you post a link?
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>>154675157
the only issue i had was malachai, but yes most auras and effects are unclear. my computer doesnt even suck. its just easier on my eyes to have everything this low.also ive only ever been to act 1 merc cause im a filthy casual stuck in HC.
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>>154673429
>everything leading to it is not as exciting
hc farms easier content for longer periods of time because it's safer
how is it exciting to have a zero percent chance of death when sc can fight stuff that has a 10% chance to kill you?
how can hc ever be fun when you only get 2, maybe 3 chance to really push and see what your character is capable of before you fuck up (and that's assuming you're lucky enough to not die to a power outage before that point.
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>>154674602
>not using the fucking abyssus with facebreakers

>>154674578
Only unique other than the anvil was scaeva because 1h swords are cancer damage wise and it allowed me to remove my leech nodes
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>Playing Hardcore

How do you deal with starting over every time you die? The beginning in PoE is such a slog because you are so weak. Every time I start a new league I hate going through normal and cruel.
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>>154675301
pixie strength build
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>>154675456
you don't

you play one toon and when you die you just quit the league
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>>154675456
if im alone, i can get to merc in a few hours

freezing pulse is the go-to usually till about 20-30 depending. BV starts early
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>mfw zana's voice

based ggg
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>>154674729
>why don't you just type out what you mean instead of making le implications because lul memes

What are you 11
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>>154675456
If you don't live off of streaming allowing you to have the game as your day job then I honestly don't get it.
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>>154675456
it takes like 8 hours to get back to maps
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>>154675716

Thats a lot.
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> I don't get why HC players are so hostile against SC players. I don't see the same coming from SC players.

Why would you be hostile towards your betters?
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>>154675456
qs: 30 ms
flask of adrenaline: 20-30 ms
wanderlust: 20 ms
karui's ward: 10 ms
asenath's mark: 5 ms
briskwarp: 5 ms
assassin's haste: 4 ms

use this and go super sonic
a1n twilight strand a3m dried lake should take you 6-8 hours
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>>154675716
>tfw it takes me like 20 hours

I really need to git better
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>>154675716
it takes 3+ days' worth of freetime to get back to maps
exactly.
are you a NEET or something?
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>>154675756
no it isn't

that's an afternoon
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>>154675589
>toon
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>>154675868
>it takes 3 days
>World first malachai was like 6 hours into the league
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>>154675868
to be fair, if you only have 2 hours to play each day, you're not making it very far, be it hc or sc.
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>>154675456
I died on Friday (afternoon) and I just did atziri at lvl 82 on my new char. It's just a matter of knowing what to skip and where to grind for example I was in merc dried lake at lvl 57 with like 5-6 hours of playtime
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>>154675657
ABYSSUS IS THE MOST FUCKING IMPORTANT ITEM IN ANY FACEBREAKER BUILD
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>>154675971
Not that guy but I only usually get 2 hours to play games on a good day. So "3+ days of freetime" isn't that inaccurate for a lot of people. And that's assuming they can even level at that pace.
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>>154675868
Yeah pretty much. I am a neet and that is exactly how much it takes me.
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>>154675971
days' worth of free time.
are you a NEET or something?

days' worth of free time.
are you a NEET or something?

days' worth of free time.
are you a NEET or something?
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>>154676092
Oh you play sc ok sure
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>>154675906
You realize that a normal person works during the afternoon and once he gets home he has a couple hours of free time.
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>>154676098
Playing hc and having valued precious free time isn't mutually exclusive. If you know what you're doing and stay alive long enough, you'll make much more currency than in sc, effectively getting a higher time invested:return ratio.
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>>154676098
>>154676186
OK so it takes around 2 days
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>>154676356
I'm not really arguing anything just clarifying on what the guy was saying. I play hardcore and it probably takes me 2-3 weeks to get to maps in any given league because I'm slow.
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>>154676235
The increased damage taken applies after all mitigation.

Combine that with the armour it gives you and its fucking nothing
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>>154676389
2 days is a lot.
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man shaper looks like fun, can't wait to see hc kill
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>starting to get bored of running maps with 50% chance to find one tier higher and never finding anything one tier higher
>starting to get tired of never finding any worthy drops
>suddenly an exalt drops

does ggg have like some statistical analysis of your account to determine when you need a rare drop to keep you going or some shit?
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>>154676551
Ok, so play softcore. What is even your point? For people who can afford to play 6 hours straight, dying in hc isn't such a big deal.
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>>154676389
Ok, so on day 3 i can start to have fun and occasionally try risky things and if i screw up or have a power outage then it costs me half a work week to get back to the fun part of the game.

Or I can play softcore and have fun every day after I spend 8 hours at work.
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>>154676696

>find an item worth 2 exalted
>nobody buys it
>forever poor

:(
>>
Man I am glad we went through this conversation. Now we all can agree Hardcore is for anti social neets and thats why they are so hostile. I rather be normal and have fun.
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is the first ever shaper kill on youtube?
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>>154676729
You know there's an entire subset of the playerbase who loves racing, you know, those short events where you repeat the leveling process in normal over and over and over again? Just some food for thought. Different people enjoy different things.
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>>154677014
I'm an antisocial neet and I play sc.
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>>154677014
>I rather be normal and have fun.
so why are you on 4chan and not reddit -_-
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>>154676729
You don't get it

>>154676551
You are making it sound like playing the game is a torture
>>
>Melee is still not fun
>In a few weeks a new ARPG with fun melee combat is coming out

Am I the only one hyped for this?

https://youtu.be/G2lj3QlBCEk?t=641
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>>154677434
>that shit
>arpg
looks closer to a moba lol
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>>154677434
flicker strike is pretty cool.
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>>154677120
>>154676716
>so play what you like
that is not the attitude of many players that frequent /poeg/
>>154677346
>You are making it sound like playing the game is a torture
Normal and cruel are boring and a waste of time. It's obvious that even hardcore players believe this to some degree or they wouldn't rant and rave about how awesome it is that death feels punishing.
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>>154677268
I get downvoted in Reddit and it makes me feel bad so I come here ^-^'
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>>154677619
Didn't mobas kind of kill the arpg genre? People that want pvp play mobas and pve people just fuck off into singleplayer rpg or mmorpgs.
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>>154677735
yeah... we don't want any reddit fugees in here either...
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>>154677619
Its a loot driven 4 player co op game with character building with randomly generated levels. The same thing you are playing now but in first person.
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>>154677932
guess most games are arpgs because they're action packed and you can roleplay as heroes and stuff haha
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>>154678078
>Mario
>Not an rpg

Retard
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>>154677781
MMO's tend to feel more like single player games than PoE. WoW especially seems to have been engineered specifically to sanitize and eliminate the purpose of player-to-player interactions with automated auction houses, automated group forming, and bind on pickup items.
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>>154677704
and? its part of the game

why don't you go play call of duty?
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tfw i cant build on the right side of the tree

teach me your ways, shadows
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>>154678493
is this a joke or something
shadow got literally the best start of any class
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>>154677781
ARPGs as a genre were already dead before MOBAs where a thing past Warcraft 3 Dota
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>>154678078
>>154677619

Are you pretending to be retarded? I cannot tell anymore.
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>>154678174
Eh, I'm not sure about that. Only thing PoE has over WoW is that you have to interact with people to trade but most of the time you don't see anyone else while doing the other shit except for when you log in before you fuck off into your hideout.
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>>154678772
Are you pretending to be retarded? I cannot tell anymore.
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>>154678458
i'd rather play softcore
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>>154678756
You are stupid. Diablo 3 revitalized the genre.
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>>154678913
dat's a gud joke nigguh
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>>154677781
Not really

the game offers something others genres don't

problem with ARPGs is that they have been dead ever since Diablo 2 died off

well you have titan quest which was popular but that was it

Same problem RTSs had.
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>>154678756
Yeah, kind of true. Is it the lack of true innovation? It's always the same recipe for autists who like to spend lots of time on grinding and theory crafting.
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>>154678913
I guess revitalized means realized this game was shit and I just went back and played D2.
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>>154678992
>>154679043

>Extremely high reviews
>Best selling rpg in years
>But /v/ said its shit XD

Kill yourself please.
>>
>>154678913
This is kinda true
Street Fighter IV accomplished the same thing while also being the worst title compared to every member of the competition.
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>>154679006

theres' always been a healthy arpg market, even if the games arent super popular after d2 and tq waned among the masses

tl1/2, dungeon siege 1/2, magicka, etc

all made quite a buck for their devs, and this was before d3 alerted casual normies of the genre again

arpgs are strong now, as even shit like Warframe is basically a 3d skinned arpg instead of a shooter
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>>154679092
Call of duty gets reviews and sales what is your point
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The easiest way to start trading is getting a premium stash tab, right? Should I just buy one for 40 premium shekels? I don't want to spend more than absolutely necessary yet because I just started playing. Give me advice please.
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>>154677619
How the fuck does that look like a moba to you?
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>>154679092

reviews dont actually mean anything, specially """""""""game reviews"""""""""

i actually own it and liked it, but its in all regards an inferior arpg compared to poe
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>>154679420
I think it's best to get one premium tab and the currency tab that's like 10 bucks
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>>154679414
Ah yes the typical /v/ Cod argument. CoD is a great series. Being a contrarian edgelord stopped being cool 10 years ago.
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>>154679092
>trusting reviews before #gamergate, or even after
>only rpg in years
>/v/
yeah nah.
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>>154679092
Did you play it before RoS?
Because it was garbage.
Now you can play and have fun for a week tops. Then it becomes shit again..
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>>154679420
no and no

download acquisition, use it

you never need premium tabs
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>>154675589
You forgot the next step of camping /poeg/ with shitposting
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>>154679092
here's your free (You) you pathetic baiting fuck
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>>154679536
I'm looking at their website and 10 bucks doesn't seem to be enough to buy a premium tab AND a currency tab. Unless you meant upgrading an existing tab?

>>154679651
I kinda want to give them money tho, I think they deserve it.
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>>154679651
He said "easiest". Acquisition is a lot of hassle + the botnet shit.
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>>154678668
yeah it's a cool start and all but i can't get enough life
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>>154679823
up to you

but you dont need premium tabs to trade at all

>>154679852
its extremely easy to use and its open source. feel free to strip their forum scrubber code and implement it in your own "clean" solution
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>>154680024
I can afford the 10 bucks now, but thanks for the free alternative.
>>
Playing an earthquake build post nerf.
Still breddy good.
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>>154679943
realistically you don't need more than 175-180%
>>
>64% chance to get 1 tier higher
>run an excavation (yellow)
>get an 8 and a 3 (three)
>this kind of shit has happened several times
ebin ggg, simply ebin :^)
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>>154680216
Shitcrows OUT
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>>154680318
>I understand nothing about statistical variance
>I am entitled to map drops in every single map
>I play a non-deterministic system and expect deterministic results
ebin, simply ebin
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>>154679580
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>>154680216
yeah but i'm struggeling. currently 165% with 3 jewel sockets for extra life potential
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>>154680506
>Anime reaction image

See this is how I know you are of inferior intellect. Do not EVER reply to me again you fat piece of shit.
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>>154680318
>64% increased item rarity
>kill a monster (yellow)
>get a bunch of magical items and even one white 3L (RGB)
>this kind of shit has happened several times
>>
Literally the only reason I'm still playing this game is because there's fucking nothing else apart from 2 or 3 other shit arpgs from poor companies that had a 1000 bucks budget to make them
>>
esk whispered me

i didn't know what to reply
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>>154681032
you know girls are just regular human beings right
>>
>>154680520
Yo son when I get I'll write out a post on max block gladiators
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>>154681140
lol good joke
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alright i think im done. viper strike w binos and a shield because i love shields
possibly doedre ring for vuln+assmark
EHC

www.poeurl.com/L4i

y/n?
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MAX BLOCK BUILD
shield or dual wield?
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>>154681017
This desu. PoE is hot garbage, but everything else manages to be worse because it's either duct tape and shoe string budget or chink money-grabs.
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>>154681176
i did a varunastra max block bor build on perandus, but i made the mistake of using sunder.
good luck though, it's pretty fun
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>>154679368
Dungeon siege games suck

never tried magicka but it was niche as fuck and its main appeal was the magic system that was ripped off from dotas invoker

warframe is still a shooter
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____:^)_____
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>>154681017
>>154681426
>I HATE THIS GAME SO FUCKING MUCH WHY DO I KEEP PLAYING IT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Seek help.
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>>154681426
Recently the titan quest anniversary version came it, it's actually pretty decent since it added the option to play the game at 3x the normal speed
>>
i'd play if it wasn't p2w honestly

now im just waiting for new leagues and not even playing them...... waiting for that "p2w tabs removed" patchnote
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>>154681464
good base, hype
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>>154681635
>p2w tabs

Nice meme.
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>>154681265
>poeplanner
use the offline planner
not going to review that garbage
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>>154681464
how do people get es so high? is every piece of your gear 200 plus?
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Got this for 50c in essence hc. Jew or jewed?
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>p2w is just a meme

go into global chat and ask people then
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>>154681746
>8.5k
>high
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>>154681790
>es base
>just life and bunch of res
worst 50c ever spent
>>
>>154681825

The tabs dont make the game p2w idiot. Its just convenience. You can play the whole game just fine with the 4 free tabs.
>>
you sound just like the forum heroes with 400 supporter tags

in fact, you are one of them.
>>
>convenience isn't p2w

lol
>>
>>154681746
I'm at 8591 without vaal disc up.
711 from chest, 187 gloves, 128 boots, 290 helmet, 59 belt, 45+70 rings, and a +31 +18% max amulet.
Tree has +223% ES, and 15% more from that node behind CI.
Then I have 368 int which is another 73%.
But 8.5k isn't even that high, especially with new shit like the crystal belt.
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>>154681790

lol 50c you got jewed so hard.
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>>154681746
>8.5k
>high
sure thing kiddo
>>
How are you supposed to craft with Essences anyway?
Just get a shit-tonne of them and hope you get lucky in the crafts with the right modifiers? That seems insanely expensive.
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>>154681992
If it wasn't for me this game would not exist and you would not be here having fun so how about you shut the fuck up and show some respect. I paid $500 for the early and I do not regret it. This is the best arpg since Diablo 2.
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>>154682201
you hope for one good roll then mastercraft it
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>>154682109

>that
>high

i have 22k es
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>>154672984
Mang I just want to play fun builds and I hate levelling

Judge me all you want, but I'm enjoying myself and will continue to enjoy myself regardless of how you think I'm having fun wrong.
>>
>>154681742
http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCP7DYotnIFPVvaowWvyaVYeJVS7TRyAy1SG1sNj2dqmyMVYWly2KstMXb50cG2HYFtY2_1CNRRzB8jX0j9k2SPs-95jfU7T-jitN-fXX-ugBeGY7tgwgu7g78xQ2Nh3bjn0p9W69OKiPTj2B1_YRv1EJsCPGKeu8FLdNvZ6B07drBR369NmVNvqdM_0MxLlPDM1oaapMZtITZwuyxs3iuPeJI7rk-rGYs4X3jjDaJ03BSKgtd8ujWmyYyAbIZz3ph63pT51Qk_f_eBnBOn3p_8uFjQ4SiB5lZ8EyOMjIQktmGvG8=

happy?
ascendancy classes never follow over but obviously going for toxic delivery
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>>154682312
my build actually has more than 5 damage nodes
>>
bait
>>
>>154682109
>>154681848
>>154682312
hivemind memers pls.
>>154682034
idk man i can never seem to get that kinda gear

http://poeplanner.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

what does everyone think of my build
>>
>>154682501
But you didn't tell us what the build is for
>>
>>154682390
>it's a 165% life acro melee single target build
>>
>>154672984

Reminder that if you aren't a hardcuck with goals and ambitions of topping the ladder and beating all content in record time, poopsocking and doing literally whatever it takes to beat a video game, you've succeeded at life./
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>>154681790
Those lab implicits will always be expensive cause of their rarity the item it self is not that expensive
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>>154682597
yes, it is. you read that correctly! well done.
thanks for your help.
>>
>>154682775
my help comes in the form of a single >
i judge you unworthy of my knowledge
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>>154682594
Fireball spamming. I have a flameblast as single target. and ill be using two rolling flame gems and two energy from within gems
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>>154682632
Ha, jokes on you. I'm a neet and don't play hardcore or succeed at life.
>>
why tf did the reddit layout just change

tf
>>
>>154681746
8.5k is mid maps at best. For reds you want 11k or so minimum, which isn't even a whole lot on a CI char.

>>154682034
No Disc? That's like another 1000 ES right there.
>>
>>154677434
Are the earlier Shadow Warrior games anything like this new one? Looks like it might be a fun spin on the genre.

Vermintide was pretty great but very limited customization and the premade maps got old fast.
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>>154683176
Previous Shadow Warrior games were all linear typical shooters. This one is entirely different with rpg elements and loot.
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>>154682897
I'm not sure I understand the point of this comment? I already said thank you.
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>run last yellow map
>t9 coves
>no map drops
Back to t5's

Anyone else having disgusting luck?
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>>154683582

me lad
i have infinity tier 8s
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>Quay is a really good straightforward map so far
>Get to the nightmare blob boss
>A gorillion hp and resistance
>Every time you kill him he multiplies

Absolute cancer. Every time I find a map I like this happens.
>>
>>154683582
sustaining t10-11s fine here
have a bunch of higher reds i'm reserving for later
85% atlas bonus
>>
>>154683582
no im chaining t14s+
>>
>>154683582
just buy some m8
>>
>>154683582
>playing self found
>complaining about your self-imposed restrictions slowing you down
as dumb as hardcore players crying about spike damage.
>>
>>154683582
are you on hc?
>>
why isnt there a tornado spell yet. Its a shame blade vortex doesn't have a wider AoE and look like the D2 hurricane

Then I could relive my druid days.
>>
>>154683723
ssf, ran the ones zana was selling

>>154683883
Yes
>>
>>154682501
Pathing is shit. Get the node above elemental overload instead of the 2 nodes below it.

>>154682938
>Fireball
You want some cast speed, no?
I'd get the mental rapidity area, since that will give some mana regen too.

>>154683103
I forgot disc, but it's shown in the screenshot.
>>
should i sell out and reroll bv
seems like there's no other way to beat current end game as safely and cheaply
>>
>>154684719
>BV
>Cheap
>>
>>154684719
>le BV is cheap meme
>>
Just got an Apprentice Cartographer's Sextant ,anyone know how much they're worth? Not listed on poe.trade
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>>154685740
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>>154685740
Nothing. Only red map ones would be worth something, and even then they're too unpredictable to have any reliable worth
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>"Maps exile."
>"How are your maps exile?"
>"May your maps be meriful, exile."
>"Maps. Maps Maps Maps. Exile, Maps."

Does this bitch ever shut the fuck up. And why does she sound like some amateur voice actor trying to be good?
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>>154685740
Zilch. Yellow and Red ones can be valuable.
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>>154686041
I miss her old voice
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>>154686041
*slaps you in the face*
how dyou like that, bitch? don't call my waifu a bitch or i'll make you my bitch
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>>154686041
>talking shit about my waifu
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>>154686153
>tfw no more "GUDDAY DOYOU EGGZIEL"
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>>154686160
Make me your bitch please
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So it's been almost two whole weeks now that this nefarious shaper character has been loose on EHC and has not been brought to justice. This can't stand!

In the interest of seeing justice done I'm offerring $100 USD to the first person to successfully kill the Shaper in the EHC league (without dying yourself).

I'd given a $50 challenge to /u/twitch_tv_RaizQT to be the first in less than 24 hours /played since he seemed confident. But he needs some competition I think and maybe a little more motivation as well!

So basic rules (if anybody thinks of anything I might be forgetting please let me know):

1) You have to be the first to kill shaper in the essence HC league and be able to provide some proof (can email proof to address below) or I have to have some way to confirm you were first.

2) Your character must survive the encounter. No suicide cast on death shenanigans.

3) You can be in a party but you'll have to decide among yourselves who gets the prize or how you divide it.

4) The prize is $100 USD. My main way to send is through paypal or iterac transfer from Canada. So you must have a way to accept it via these methods.

5) Shaper must be killed no later than 7:00PM EST Sunday Sept 18. I cannot abide him being free any longer than that!

6) I'm also giving a $25 USD prize to the best 'runner up' video for any who RIP trying but get close. Will be my own choice, possibly influenced by community, as to who wins it. Has to be an attempt that happens between now and the cut off date (see #5)

This is my own money so you'll just have to trust I'm good for it. Not much I can do to prove that. Those who were watching Raiz the other day can attest I put up the $50 for his challenge but that's about all the guarantee that I can give.

Good luck to anybody who gives it a shot!
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What should I have as my 4th link on leap slam? I was using blind support so I could jump into packs more safely
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>>154686665
blind faster attacks fortify
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>>154686665
Slam - Faster atk - fortify - blood magic
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>>154686041
She literally is

The VA in this game is a rollercoaster of QUALITY. On one hand you have Izaro, whose every line is solid gold, and on the other you have New!Zana, who sounds like they pulled some random chick from the street and gave her fifty new zealand funbucks to read a script.

I honestly preferred the old blatantly fake russian Zana.
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The endgame bosses being ***IMMUNE*** to chill (including ground effect), freeze, burn, poison etc is PURE BULLSHIT

Why put all these mechanics to kill and debuff shit in the game if the supposed endgame entirely shuts them down?

Why not reward creative use of the buttloads of methods to deal damage that exist in the game and the mechanics around them?

What are they now but a noobtrap, as far as endgame goes?

FUCK GGG AND FUCK CHRIS
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>>154686631

ive already killed shaper on ehc
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>>154684719
Easy shaper kills seem to be more about quickly and consistently leeching energy shield onto a huge CI ES pool than anything else.

BV is the best at this, but something like Whispering Ice is capable as well.
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>>154686931
except a good WI deals like 20% damage of a good BV build
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>>154686931
not interested in your theory
i want results
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>>154686836
Because they know people would just freezelock those bosses
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>>154685740
>Not listed on poe.trade
yes they are, you must have left a value in 'minimum quality' or something from your last search.
they're worth less than 2 alch right now.
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What's the best leveling skills for marauder these days. Last time I played it was ground slam but apparently it's shit these days?
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how the fuck do i get currency
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>>154687487
p2w
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>>154687487
play
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>>154687487
fuckign GIT GUD
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>>154687474
ground slam was buffed, so was cleave
either works fine for clearing packs.
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>tfw you have 1 exalted already

Stay jealous you stupid nerds.
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>>154687487
find items
sell them to npcs
sell them to other players
enjoy your newfound currency!
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>>154687474
im playing a marauder and im using sweep because cyclone feels like shit to use
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>>154679092
yes, the worst videogame purchase that I have ever made in my life, d3 on release, was a really great experience.
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>>154687256
deleting game mechanics so a boss can be harder is fake difficulty no matter how you look at it
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>>154687072
This guy face tanks it, though he eats shit once or twice during the fight. I think guardian is the better choice for whispering now as well, and he's elementalist in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjNeDomW6ck

BV is obviously better if you're hardcore and have the flasks though, but I don't think you're ripping a set with WI.
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>tala moana, warrior!
>you there! a moment of your time
>over here, exile
>come to me, exile. let us speak of death and desire

>tfw no Zana
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tala moana, motherfucker!
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make a new thread because i'm not going to bother just a heads up
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gods > demigods > angels > hc players > ---power gap--- > huddled masses > ---massive power gap--- > bacterium > ---galactic power gap--- > shitcrows
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>Steam is down

Thanks GGG.
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>>154687487
the game
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https://webmshare.com/9MzEa

Will they ever recover?
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lacerate or shield charge?
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>>154689069
>shitcrow king calling out other shitcrows for using shitcrows tactics
yeah okay
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>>154688851
>>154688851
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>tfw you have to contemplate getting a carnage heart just so you can cap your resists in cruel
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>What do I do with my 2 exalted?
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>>154689605
Craft a res ring.
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Besides ((((BV)))) and traps what are some other viable Shadow builds?
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>he doesn't regularly defragment his content.ggpk
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>>154688240
now i know why i am sick of this game. Even though the build has OP uniques, it still plays slow as shit..

good god, this game is a fucking snooze fest with all these clunky skills
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>>154691273
What does it do, friend?
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>>154691273
>not having an ssd
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