/rwg/ - Rimworld General

1st for alphabeavers

>>154365729
glittertech is shit and you should maybe add the Misc. Core + other Misc . parts because they add quite alot great things (randomized ruins on the map and incidents for example)

>>154366246
Man I fucking hate them, they're so unfair.

I'd rather have a raid and wargs at the same time

>>154362507
The latter. I have a giant undermountain complex with huge hallways. Heat from the hallways is dumped outdoors and heat from the freezer is dumped to the hallways. Individual rooms do not need extra cooling - I keep most doors open sans bedrooms and freezer. The heat capacity of the huge hallway area is enough to stabilize the temperature inside the entire complex. However, I don't get particularly hot summers (about 50C with heat waves) so I only need 2 coolers for the hallways, set at 25C. On the other hand, I have around 6 heaters set to 21. The AC systems stay on low power most of the time, only heat waves and long volcanic winters force them on full blast to maintain that comfy 21-25C.

>>154362958
Bad idea. You will get orbital trader supply drops inside those sealed heat sink rooms.

Will this game ever go on sale?

>>154367261
>early access game goes on sale

why is this even allowed?

>>154367261
mate it's been on steam for a short time and it's selling very well

maybe a fiver off at christmas

>>154367036
Me too, all that free meat and furs is just unfair.

>>154367261
on keyreseller sites its already down to 20 yurobucks (at least a few hours ago when i bought it for bf )
would def advise to get steam version because 1 click mod installs is heaven for a game with 100 small af mods like rimworld

>>154367361
guess you either savescumm or play on an easy mode difficulty.

on higher difficulties hunting pack animals is just too risky. even Tynan said that you should avoid hunting because it's too risky

>>154367449
>on higher difficulties hunting pack animals is just too risky. even Tynan said that you should avoid hunting because it's too risky

If you have one decent gun per colonist, even if it's pistols, you can hunt all but the largest ones.

>>154367449
Git gud. You kill them manually with draftees instead of the hunting job.

>>154367216

So just dig them open and grab the loot, then seal them back up. Who gives a fuck.

>>154367429

The game is still literally in "alpha", so why are people *paying* for it?

>>154367841
it's not "your" money, so why do you even *care* ?

>>154367449
>m-muh difficulty
Mate, difficulty does not change animal behavior and the beavers incident does not scale.

>>154367841
>caring about labels

I bet you have your own pronouns, you kek.

>>154367951

>not playing exclusively on -100C maps

>>154367841
after playing it for easily 400 hours pirated i bought it because i dont have many games i ike that much and honestly i9 have spend money alot worse , the workshop is great and i dont regret paying full price for it one second

>>154367951
Huh? What are you talking about? Higher difficulties wear your colony more out. You lose more ressources to raids because things like turrets get destroyed. More colonists get injured or even killed.

You want to avoid unnecessary attacks on your colonists when you already lose more to more difficulty raids.

>>154368065
What mods you do need to get those?

The average temperature of northernmost squares never goes below -40C with vanilla worldgen.

>>154368065
>>154368283
Dont even bother with -100C maps. They are fucking boring. Nothing outside can survive for a longer period. Why bother attacking a Siege? No animals to hunt.

It's only challenging in the beginning until you have your food income running and enough heat to not freeze to death

>>154368283
yes it does just look more

>>154368382

>manhunting muffalos
>fucking wargs
>mechanoids
>raiders with -130C low temp ranges

Yeah, I get plenty of shit to deal with.

>>154368382
I wanna try it. I already did a flat ice sheet embark, but it was only like -60C and even that only during winter.

>>154368401
I guess it might dip a little bit below -40C avg if you get extreme levels of elevation.

Could you please share any seeds with these mythical -100C areas?

>>154368604
gimme a sec but sure

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>>154368401
>>154368604

Try this.

>>154368525
so like in any other biome? so what's the difficulty then?

>>154368665
Thanks!

ree fucking heatwaves before I get my cooler

>>154367841
Because the dev is calling it alpha until he stops adding content

It's already a game you can complete so it's not like you're paying for something with no endgame

My greenhouse gets very hot during dummer due to sun lamps and a geothermal plant indoors, so I have to refrigerate it. Why isn't there a simple function on vents to close/open them if indoors is hotter than outdoors? Using energy to cool a room is fucking retarded.

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>cold snap during growing season when my crops are at 80%

>>154369625
>geothermal plant inside

are you retarded

>>154368283
Run seed 549191 at 400x300, there's a mountain with -99.8 avg in winter. It's the coldest I know of.

It honestly is boring though, you can't even call caravans. Surviving exposure is only an issue in the beginning, then it's just a nuisance.

>>154369730
It would otherwise eat up a lot of space I could use for farming, and during winters it's extra heat which translates to less power drain. Yes, I'm clearly retarded.

>>154369872
and now in summer it eats up energy to cool......

>>154369625
>Using energy to cool a room is fucking retarded.
i know right, air conditioners irl are fucking retarded

Jokes aside, why not simply hold open the greenhouse doors during summers?

>>154369625
Or you can just micromanage it? Just leave a door open.

Ok so cold is boring. What about the hottest possible embarks? How high can you go that way?

Is there any mod that implement EdB-like colonist squads?

>Colonist kills his own mother, sister and grandmother in one raid
>Mood remains content because he's banging his pretty wife

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>manhunter boomrat pack and pirate raid at the same time

this is it lads
im done

>>154370861
have them occupy the same space and shoot a boomrat
Done.

>>154370861
They'll fight eachother if you're lucky.

>>154369948
No, I can just deconstruct some walls. But it's annoying when a simpler solution would exist, but the game doesn't deliver.

>>154370954
the simpler solution is :: :: :: : : :: : : dont build geothermals indoors you fuckwit

>>154371050

Sun lamps alone will generate enough heat to slowly raise the temperature. And like I said, walling the geothermal out would eat up arable land, which is silly. And there's the added bonus of extra heat in winter.

I actually have all of my geothermals indoors.

>>154371221
i use 2 heater and 2 cooler in 2x1 rooms with vents connecting into my growing buidlings with sun lamps keeps temps at nice 21°C and isnt that energy intensive
why do you build all geos indoor? i mean i see that having the heat is nice in winter but imho it doesnt make a difference not using it because in rimworld its rarely about a 50KW more or less

>pyromaniac starting fires on 100% mood
its like the mood system almost works

>>154371441

To protect them from raiders.

>>154371471
i c i always have my defenses (sandbags, handful of turrets , minefields) near the building that is farthest out of my "base" its usually a geo so it doesnt matter if i wall them in or not

>>154371606
That's inefficient as fuck, sounds like. Most of the time the raiders will just bang a couple of times on the geo building door and then leave to join the rest of the group.

Only to be mowed down by better positioned defenses.

>>154371689
well i use alot small positions i can man depending from what direction they come and i always position them outside of my base so if the geo is 100 tiles easy of my base my defensive position will be 20-30 tiles east from the geo

>>154371802
*east of my base

>do until you have x orders
>set 2 stoves to keep 200 fine meals stockpiled, the rest lavish meals
>cant type the number in
>have to click a plus button 400 times
10/10 UI design.

>>154372310
Click the Details button on the bill you fucking tard

>>154372501
still no option to type the number you want :^)

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>Can make raccoon leather
>Cant make coonskin caps

>>154372694
Well it's not like you can make ushankas either. Unfortunately, all leather caps are out at the moment.

>>154372546
>being this dumb

Enjoy your (yous)

what would the storyteller do if you split your colonists up to different parts of the map?

>>154372910
i think it doesnt affect anything

>>154372910
Why would that change anything?

>>154373013
>>154373117
where would it direct raids if you had a colonist in each corner is basically what I'm asking.

>>154373223
raiders just want to fuck shit up fampai

>>154373223
The storyteller AI doesn't direct raids, the combat AI does. Raiders just wreck whatever they can path to.

Storyteller AI just spawns events out of nothing.

>tfw you receive a completely healthy prosthophile


in this case she really is asking for this

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How bad could it be? I'm going to go for it!

>>154373918
-80

>>154373953
I'm still going for it. Ugly people are allowed a chance ;_:

>>154373918
I find funny how an ugly pawn and a beautiful pawn can look the same.

>>154374006
no we arent

>>154374035
wanna hear a secret

>>154374191
sure

>>154374228
you arent ugly
you are too lazy to take care of yourself which is worse

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>Big fat Scandi viking-wannabe thats a really good miner but refuses to bother with guns

do i keep him or do i tell him to go armwrestle a bear?

is melee even good

>>154374348
i wish anon

i wish ; - ;

>>154374572
If you're Asian, try have a clear smooth face. If you're white, try lifting. Otherwise you're fucked.

>>154374406
Melee is not horrible, but comes with too much risk factor. Give him a shoddy wooden club so he can beat people into submission to capture them

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And so ends the marooned SNSD: Yoona dying of space aids in bed as an electrical fire encroaches.

Eight non-haulers/cleaners with just one dumb laborer really sucks.

>>154374846
RIP. I hope you learned your lesson.

>mess with modding simple prosthetic fingers
It made prosthophiles too easy to please (since fingers are cheaper), got rid of the "should I remove the whole arm?" decision and cluttered the operations menu. Bad idea was bad.

And I'm still trying to find a decent, non-assembly way to add a new diet for ALWAYS BAD ALFABIVERS petrabeavers. It looks like it'll have to wait until I reinstall the system.

>>154374939

I knew in advance that eight Pop Idol starts and one Bodyguard start was a recipe for fun. Too bad I couldn't get them all addicted to cocaine before the worst came down.

>>154374789
im white but im a small fuccboi and i hate every cell of myself with burning hate and every attempt t look manlier/different ends with me hating myself even more

>>154375027
ok i was wrong
its just a self-esteem issue
grow up kid, youre fine

>>154375027

Take a look outside: there are so many ugly ass motherfuckers walking around with wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, living fine. Focus on whatever you're good at doing, even if you're not that good at it, and it'll stop mattering as much.

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My map is filled with thoses things.

>>154375027
Are you the guy who posted his face """"accidentally"""" a couple of threads back? Yeah, you're ugly as fuck. Consider suicide.

>>154376153
Damn what map size are you even playing on?

>>154376153
its fun when a forest fire burns down the walls in the second season

>>154376168
no lel i would never post my face anywhere

>>154376302
>fire burning down inflammable walls
m8

>>154376365
>can't tell a metal wall when he sees one
real shameful son

>>154376360
Oh, ok. Post face then? I want to evaluate your ugliness for myself.

>>154376274
isnt anyone here playing on the largest size?

>>154376410
never i dont even have any pics of me that arent baby pictures and i dont plan to make any at all ever

>>154376439
Anon it's just not the same game if you give yourself 12 geothermals and enough metals to craft all the technology.

>>154376518
Just turn on your webcam and snap a quick shot.

>>154376274
400 x 300

>>154376532
Not that guy, but yes it is. You can get the resources from trade to simply churn out solars and batteries to power everything if you don't have access to geothermal. It's just a bit more tedious and more vulnerable to eclipses, but then again, it's easier to defend a solar rig from raiders than it is to defend geo

>>154376563
i dont have a webcam because why the fuck should i have one and i will never show my face ever

>>154376532
actually never saw it that way desu i always just see less room and i like to have enough room for everything i could do

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>>154376587
you what mate?

I only play on the larger size, it's fun to see a hunter taking one to two day to do is job.

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Stupid vents messing with MUH LAYOUT...

>>154376702

400 x 400* , sorry.

I just like it big.

>>154376726

Just turn those rooms into utility closets. A little bit of asymmetry makes a base look and feel more real.

>>154376637
>You can get the resources from trade to simply churn out solars and batteries to power everything if you don't have access to geothermal
Yeah and you can hunt 20 hares to get the same amount of meat as a few deer, it's just more tedious not having those 50 fat animals roaming on the map ;^)

>it's easier to defend a solar rig from raiders than it is to defend geo
Why are you posting here if you aren't playing rimworld?

>>154376845

False equivalence is false.

>>154376707
I wish I could do it without my computer screaming "bloody murder!".

>>154376808
I've changed the right one to be the battery room instead of a barn. The left one will take some space from the workshop (two right quadrants) and stockpiles (two left quadrants), but it's not so bad.

>>154376439
>implying everyone enjoys lag

>>154376921
No you don't understand, I'm totally agreeing with you. It doesn't matter if have more resources on the map, it's not easier or harder, just *different* ;^)

>>154377012

That's correct.

>>154376991
>>154376996

I don't have lag when i play.

>>154377045
Duh, why would anyone get so anal about resources in a resource management game, gosh.

>>154377121
I have no idea, because trading exists.

>>154376996
i dont have any lag on largest size with 3x fast forward

>>154377012

So, if you don't go full random colonist, random landing site, 250x250, no killboxe, no mod, extrem difficulty, then you are cheating?

no x fox only final destination

>>154377160
I know right, those nice traders always giving me items for free, why do they even call them "traders" lol?

>>154377223

Who said anything about it being free?

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anything new added?

>>154377058
Your computer is probably beefier than mine, I'm running an AMD Athlon II X2 245 with a GeForce GT 630. Playing in 300x is fine, but 400x and the lag is unbearable.

>>154377163
So your colonies end while they're still small. Congrats I guess?

But why even bother with large maps if you don't make it to 50 colonists at the very minimum?

>>154377247
Wait traders don't give you items for free? Then you're telling me you have to LOSE resources to get items from them? Damn, for a second I thought that traders are the magical solution for everything.

>>154377368

>Damn, for a second I thought that traders are the magical solution for everything.

That's correct.

>>154377309
the first 2 years are the kmost fun after that its just the same shit all over again thats why i usually ship out ASAP or just start a new one

>>154377417
I don't know what kind of trolling this is, you say stupid shit but don't even attempt to antagonize your opponent. If you're pretending to be retarded you sure are good at it.

>>154375027
Time to become a prostitute cuckboi, it'll really raise your self esteem when manly men are pounding your ass and calling your pretty

>>154377542

Is flinging shit the way to show that you're right these days?

>>154377275

AMD FX-8150 with geforce GTX 1060 here.
32 Go RAM (idk if it help)

I'm actually willing to play on larger map if possible. Something like 800x800.

>>154377615
I already showed I'm right when I reduced your argument to the absurd. Now I'm just wondering what's your problem.

>>154377683

No, you're just flinging shit.

>>154377603
i dont like manly men i only like smooth little fagboys

lol fgts mining and tarding

i just use godmode =)

>>154377712
Is this the best you can do? You seem to be the type of person that just throws out adjectives and calls it a day. "False equivalence is false." is meaningless when you don't follow it up with an explanation of how the equivocation is false. "Shit flinging" is equally meaningless. Is your capacity for articulation this low? You call me a shit flinger yet ironically I've done more to explain myself than you. How old are you?

>>154377659
RAM might help. Mine is 4GiB since the mobo is old as fuck and doesn't allow anything above DDR2... I'm considering to swap it, but meh, I got some priorities.

Are colonists always trying to flee from danger by default?

Or is it because i'm playing in french?

>>154378250
You have them set to flee. You can change it to fight back or ignore

>>154378152
>RAM might help.
Yeah, that'll help so fucking much with a single-threaded CPU-bottlenecked 32-bit executable that's constricted to 2 GB by your OS.

Gotta love it when computer illiterates give advice.

>>154378053

You only ever get more animals initially, then it's the exact same between the different map sizes. Also, meat is not a renewable resource, energy is. Also, geo vents start being so far away from your base that they're barely efficient anymore, not to mention more vulnerable to attack.

And in any case, the more resources you may have in a bigger map are spread so far apart that efficiency suffers. Moreover, it only ever helps you in the beginning if ever, and you'll still get most of your resources via trading. And deep mining, if you're into that.

And dealing in plants and drugs is so profitable that any difference between the maps is negated.

In other words, fuck off kid.

>>154378354
>meat is not a renewable resource
False. Breeding tame animals, infinite huntable animals. 100% renewable.

>geo vents start being so far away from your base that they're barely efficient anymore
False. Distance does not affect their efficiency.

>the more resources you may have in a bigger map are spread so far apart that efficiency suffers.
False. They're still free resources and the slightly longer hauling distances are insignificant compared to downsides of trading.

>Moreover, it only ever helps you in the beginning if ever
False. More free resources = more free resources. The advantage you already gained does not disappear after the beginning.

>and you'll still get most of your resources via trading.
False. You can get absolutely every bit of resources you need from a single large map. Without deep mining.

>And dealing in plants and drugs is so profitable that any difference between the maps is negated.
False. Bigger maps have more rich soil for such activity.

>>154378354
>starting the game with more resources doesn't make the game easier because you can get more resources later
Yup, just as dumb as the last time.
>b-but you can eventually catch up
It doesn't change the fact that it makes the game easier, and I would say significantly easier. This is made all the more retarded when you consider the fact that the first year is the most important part of the game, and having a lot of easily available meat and steel can help you survive that crucial first winter, which again makes me question if you even play rimworld.

If you're going to address anything please tell me how old you are, but there are some minor things that bothered me:

>meat is not a renewable resource
Meat is renewable. Animals breed as well as spawn at the edges of the map.

>energy is
The difference between being renewable seems to be the reason why you said they can't be compared. Are you the type of autist that thinks games last for hundreds of years and the most important resources are the renewable ones? "Sure you might start with 10 more x, but after playing the game for y hours it won't matter" - you(?).

>>154378832
>False. Breeding tame animals, infinite huntable animals. 100% renewable.

And that is the exact same between two maps.

>False. Distance does not affect their efficiency.

What are power lines? What is concrete to protect those power lines from fires?

>False. They're still free resources and the slightly longer hauling distances are insignificant compared to downsides of trading.

During the time you spend mining and hauling, you could be making tradeable resources instead.

>False. More free resources = more free resources. The advantage you already gained does not disappear after the beginning.

They aren't free, you lose what you gain by having to haul and mine.

>False. You can get absolutely every bit of resources you need from a single large map. Without deep mining.

False. Late colonies drain so much steel that even if you bothered to mine and haul everything on the map, you'd still need more.

>>154379110
PS. I (>>154378832) am not even the guy you were arguing with, but frankly I'm tired of reading your inane drivel.

/vg/ has enough stupidity without your kind arguing and representing stupid shit as facts to the general public.

Get a name/trip so the rest of us can filter you. Or better yet, just fuck off.

>>154379110
Oh so it's not a "free" 100$ bill because you have to walk a few meters to pick it up. kek. It sure is convenient to ignore disparity between the amount of work needed to pick up the free resources and the amount work needed to craft and trade for them.

>>154378832
>False. Bigger maps have more rich soil for such activity.

Nobody is ever going to farm the whole map, because it isn't defensible.

Your base will always be of a similar size regardless of the size of the map itself.

>>154379057

>It doesn't change the fact that it makes the game easier, and I would say significantly easier. This is made all the more retarded when you consider the fact that the first year is the most important part of the game, and having a lot of easily available meat and steel can help you survive that crucial first winter, which again makes me question if you even play rimworld.

Meat is never reliable. Farming is how you get food after the initial meals run out, and even the smallest maps have enough steel deposits to get you going.

>Meat is renewable. Animals breed as well as spawn at the edges of the map.

No difference between map sizes there. Also, wild animals don't breed.

>The difference between being renewable seems to be the reason why you said they can't be compared. Are you the type of autist that thinks games last for hundreds of years and the most important resources are the renewable ones? "Sure you might start with 10 more x, but after playing the game for y hours it won't matter" - you(?).

Yes, the renewable resources are the most important ones. Instead of running all over the map, you consolidate the renewable resources to a single point for sustainability.

>>154379409
How old are you?

>Meat is never reliable
Meat is the most reliable source of food in the game, it's just not efficient.

>No difference between map sizes there.
You start the game with more and better wild animals on the map.

>Yes, the renewable resources are the most important ones.
Thanks for confirming my suspicion. Your, let's say, personality, causes you to underestimate the value of non-renewable resources. Starting a game such as starcraft with more minerals has a snowball effect on the rest of the game, and the same holds true for rimworld, yet because you mainly take into consideration renewable resources, since you think only about the late game state of your base, and because of that you neglect to consider that survival in harder difficulties is a race against the clock.

>>154379891

>Thanks for confirming my suspicion. Your, let's say, personality, causes you to underestimate the value of non-renewable resources. Starting a game such as starcraft with more minerals has a snowball effect on the rest of the game, and the same holds true for rimworld, yet because you mainly take into consideration renewable resources, since you think only about the late game state of your base, and because of that you neglect to consider that survival in harder difficulties is a race against the clock.

That's a false equivalence again. A better comparison would be comparing playing starcraft on a small map vs. a large map. Yes, the large map has more resources, but they're farther away. Your start is the same in both cases.

Are yall playing on basebuilder or what?

Every resource except stone is renewable. You get tons of steel, plasteel and components from mechanoids in real gameplay. That plus whatever you mine is more than enough for any kind of competent colony regardless of map size.

>>154380035
That's not a false equivalence, you should really look up those terms if you're going to go all philosophical and use them. The difference between owned resources and potential resources is artificial, since even stockpiled resources need to be hauled in order to be used. The game doesn't keep track of what you own outside of stockpile zones, you can place a zone on the whole map and all the steel and chunks will become "yours". You effectively own the whole map, even the parts outside your base. Starting the game with a superior map-state is going to have the same snowball effect compared to starting the game with an inferior map-state, therefore the analogy works, because the thing being compared is the same in both cases.

>>154378348
>Gotta love it when computer illiterates give advice.
I'd rather be computer illiterate and not know what's the problem with MY computer in this regard than being English illiterate like you and unable to realize I was NOT giving advice.

>>154380542

See, that's where you're wrong. A bigger map isn't simply better. A smaller map with more resources would be preferable to a bigger map.

Distance matters. Useless hauling results in a lot of wasted time, that's why you want to have your stockpile either inside your workshop or right outside of it. Hauling in the wilderness also comes with its own risks - it's not that unlikely for you to be caught by a sudden raid/manhunter pack if you're out and about.

I don't know what kind of biomes you play in, or what difficulty you set your storyteller to, or whether you savescum, but once you crank the difficulty up, these things start mattering.

So now that noone buys scythe blades, what do I do with it?

>>154381024
>A smaller map with more resources would be preferable to a bigger map
>would be
Of course it WOULD BE.

It's time to rethink your position when you have to resort to what-ifs to support your shitty argument.

>>154381208

That's relevant when we're discussing why false equivalence is an appropriate term for this situation.

>>154381089
Only harvest the ones you need.

>>154381024
NOOOOO! BIG MEP ALWAYS GUD!

>>154381089
What are you talking about? Exotic traders buy scyther blades.

>>154380494
>>Every resource except stone is renewable.
If you consider trading, the bricks are renewable.

>>154381024
Of course distance matters, it makes not one spec of difference though, because starting the game with distant resources is strictly speaking better than not. Are you seriously arguing that hauling steel is so horrible that it's better to just buy it from traders?

>>154381964

Yes, actually. I still have a couple of unused steel deposits on the map, because they're too far away.

>>154381272
They should really be teaching kids basic philosophy at school, some people can pick that knowledge up as general trivial, but the unlucky ones go online and learn about them through online message boards in a roundabout or flawed way, or not at all.
When you're making an analogy, that is when you're comparing two different situations, invariably there will be differences between the two, because every situation is so complicated and has so many variables.
There are no zerg in rimworld and no warg in starcraft, but those differences, like many others, is not due cause to shout "false equivalence". As long as the thing being compared in both situation is the same, the analogy works. The situations are not identical, they are _analogous_ to one another. In both starcraft and rimworld, starting the game in superior position causes a snowball effect where the advantage carries into the rest of the game. The word "superior" here is vague on purpose, because the advantages to be obtained in both games are naturally different. In starcraft having a better economy makes you better able to fend off timing attacks, and in rimworld getting turrets faster allows you to fend off raiders, what matters is that in both situations the thing to be compared, the snowball effect, is the same.

>>154382529

But you don't get more resources at start, you only get a bigger map that may or may not have more resources.

It's still a false equivalence.

>>154382608
You do get a superior position. Whether or not you have more resources at 00:00 is irrelevant. You can hunt more efficiently because there are more fat animals like bears and gazelles, whereas in a smaller map you'd run out of them fast and have to settle for racoons, turtules, foxes and such, and eventually squirrels and hares. You have more ore veins, especially things like components that can run out uncomfortably soon, and I don't care one bit about your particular map, steel, too, is worth mining, eventually that is. You get more geysers, more fertile soil, and more selection of areas to make your base at. You get more time to react to enemies that spawn at the edges of the map, the list goes on. All other things being the same, bigger maps have more resources and are generally better.

>>154382952

And countered by longer hauling times, greater danger from wildlife, longer way to safety and longer power lines. Not to mention that the guaranteed resources you get at crashlanded start will be spread on a larger area.

Basically it's a toss-up. A bigger map is never simply better in all respects.

i don't like fat colonists. They hid the fucking "mood" bar by filling the whole square showing them.

>>154383598
It's not even remotely countered by any of those minor drawbacks, but at this point you don't even care about honesty, you're just struggling to make your case.

Hey, so how do I get stuff from the workshop? steamworkshopdownloader won't cut it and I'm craving for some of those medieval times goodies that are posted over there but not the ludeon forums.

>>154383894

You're never played on an extreme temperature map.

>>154383940
I have played on extreme desert. We can just put this to a poll but I won't bother, you're not going to win this argument, not because I'm necessarily 100% right, but because you're a teenager that can't articulate themselves better than a throwing one liners and expecting it to have any effect.

>>154384234

Extreme desert doesn't kill your colonists if they're out for longer than an hour. And I can tell you, you'd appreciate resources being spread on a larger area a lot less if it did.

Also I didn't mention that more animals = more risk to your colonists as well as more food consumed by the animals themselves.

>>154384234
>We can just put this to a poll
I created a poll for you two.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11195166

give me your hardest story teller anons
i need one that will rape my high tech mountain base

>>154384717
The hardest storyteller is yourself. Turn on dev mode and whenever you think you're doing good, spawn the worst incident you can think of for your current situation.

>>154383598

Yeah, and with a bit of chance, a shit load of mystery box on the whole map too.

>>154377762
All of them have better taste in men than you. Suck it up and learn to suck it down.

>>154386127 but i have already m,y own qt fagboy i dont need another
>>154385269
this desu i often use devmode to spawn large raids when im bored and want to see my shit burn and go down in flames

>>154385269
just added glitter tech to see if it will work and how big the biggest raids are from orion co and the commandos
compared to rimsenal faction raids glitter tech raids are 100% pure rape
pretty sad i decided not to start my base with glitter tech, cant add it now because the raids crash the game
time to start again finally

>>154386547
Glitter tech raids are such bullshit. Bionically decked out raiders in full fucking nanosuits and reflective vests are flat out impossible to beat.

That mod was chock full of typoes too.

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>>154386547
>>154386814
this a comparison of the biggest raids, fpc left ( most advanced raiding civ in rimsenal ), commando up and orion co bottom
i want the rape from glitter tech
i think

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my best ending.

Had a raid before all this, actually beat them with minimal injury even.

Then everyone started to get infected, then it got worse and to a point only 1 person was not bed ridden "Uh Gug" who was also infected and a bad leg.

On his way to do some more doctoring he died of aids.

Everyone else was stuck in bed, and to top it off, an infestation fucking spawned right in my medical room.

Everyone was getting eaten alive while they couldnt get up from bed.

>>154386994
Those APCs look pretty dope.

Why does skill deteriorate over time? That kinda sucks.

>>154387340
So you can't slowly grind everyone to 20 at everything. Specialize your people.

>>154387340

It's actually one of the coolest mechanics I've seen in a game

>>154375027
>im a small fuccboi
L-LONDON??

>>154388067
anon ... i said im white

For real though, alpha beavers are some weak shit.

>>154388345
kek
>>154388067
nah i have a bf anyways

>>154387340
there are mods to disable/slow it
>>154386994
the federation looks so out of place in its design :/ but the orions are cool with that "police" design sadly the tanks are a bit too much for me to handle since i dont use killboxes or obscene amounts of turrets/colonists

>>154388920
>nah i have a bf anyways

>ABLOO BLOO BLOO I'M AN UGLY MANLET
>At least I have my BF ;^)
fuck off

>>154389047
i think im ugly and i never said im alone so what?
this isnt /r9k/ alot people go for things other than looks

>>154387296
and they are invulnerable against bullet type weapons iirc

>>154388892
they are always top priority for me to take out because they raze half the map in a few days

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i have no idea how to defend that topside

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>>154389383
maybe extend the defensive line a bit so you have more room

>>154389383
thats simple anon
wall it off, create some cover in case of sappers and forget about it

>>154389383
That's the most horrible sandbag placement I've ever seen in my entire life.

Do buildings actually "need" corners? or can you just leave them off?

>>154389789
i think it doesnt count as room without the edges

>>154389568
p-please dont bully

>>154389789
It counts as a room and the heat inside won't escape, but it fucks the colonist AI up. Worth the hassle just to prevent doctors treating patients from outside the building.

>>154390072
It at least sort of does; I was able to stick a prisoner in a building without corners.

Which building deconstructs clothing and armor? The electric smithy only does weapons and slag.

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I play this game only since a few days and this is my first base that seems to look like something.

>>154391640
>enjoying the pleasure of infestations without the suffering of protection from mortars.
Good man.

>>154391421
Crematorium

>>154391807

well, i actually didn't saw any of them yet. As for infestation, i'm on flat land, i throught they were a mountain thing?

>>154392078
they spawn under "overhead mountain" roofs

>>154392198

Oh. Thanks.

>>154392078
You dug into a mountain son. Click on roof display and hover over that hill, see if it says overhead mountain.

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This is one fast thrumbo.

>>154392387
I want to use a dog says so much, but my desire not to be a cheating bastards is too strong. How can I escape this suffering?!!

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Why don't they die of heatstroke? It's 66 °C. Their maximum tolerance is 50 °C.

Is this supposed to just starve them, because it killed the hives?

>>154392487
>How can I escape this suffering?!!
By not giving a fuck. After you've beat the game in vanilla a couple of times on some hard setting, what else is there to be gained except fun with mods?

>>154392586
Just because it isn't comfortable for them doesn't mean they start toppling over immediately.

>>154392874
So, at which temperature do they topple over? It's been 66 °C for 3 days now.

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>>154392387
my main dood beats that

>>154392975

Around the temperature of hot plasma, give or take a couple of degrees.

Is it possible to cure addiction? How?

>>154393941
wait it out and dont let him get any

>>154393941
Don't give them drugs.

>>154392586
Just like I told you faggots last thread.

You need to exceed the *comfy* temp limits by a lot, and presumably *fast*.

Too bad you have all that wooden shit there, burning the bugs is soooo easy.

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Does Social skill influent merchants prices?

>>154394828
That's p. much the only thing it does, captain.

So I just started this, what's the deal with drifters? Do they just hang out a while and help you with their relevant skills?

>>154394861

I throught it was also for recruiting prisonners, being liked by the rest of your crew and shit.

>>154394717
>Too bad you have all that wooden shit there, burning the bugs is soooo easy.
I want to eat them.

>>154395035
>wanting debuffs from insect meat
why though

Let's settle this once and for all, does growing skill affect plant cut speed or not? I just want to chop wood fast.

>>154395246
yes ffs just look into the info panel for once

>>154395246
Nope. Only harvesting.

>>154395585
Get fucked noob.

So how do I capture raiders? The wiki said that I should click a drafted individual and then right click a person and arrest them, but when I tried that all I could do was order them to shoot or stab them. Additionally I already set beds up for prisoners, so I don't think that was the issue.

>>154396172
Do that once the enemy is downed you dumbfuck.

>>154396172
Are the beds in an enclosed room with a door?

>>154396271
Maybe I wasn't watching close enough, but he seemed to go straight from alive to dead when he was shot. No need to be rude friend.
>>154396302
Yes they are.

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These fucking mods. How hard can it be to 1) form coherent English sentences and 2) fucking quality check what you write.

>>154394887
You can arrest them for a potential recruit.

>>154396852
>checking your code
Weak.

>>154371464
It's Pyromaniac. It just likes seeing things burn.
But I think it should get boost "saw fire +5" just like the one who likes matteling and see people dying

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>tfw you watch the lights flicker back on one by one after a solar flare

Does wakeup withdrawal make resting REALLY efficient?

Like, it jumps up 5% every couple seconds.

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>>154397141
>lamps, sunlamps, and crafting stations connected to solar panels
>air conditioners, heaters, and turrets, connected to geothermals
Lights out at 8, goodnight everyone :)

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> tfw I made it so that all tamed animals can haul stuff

>>154396405
>Maybe I wasn't watching close enough, but he seemed to go straight from alive to dead when he was shot. No need to be rude friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMrOxRmJXA

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>>154398554
>tfw nothing to haul
>colonists have nothing to do
>everyone idle until the psychoid is ready to harvest

>>154399620
No artists? No doctors-in-training? No high skill constructors to replace all those benches with legendary dining chairs? No double flame shooters to train by shooting a granite wall using a pistol? No plant cutters to chop all the wood on the map for artists/constructor to use? No animals left to tame/hunt? No research projects left to research? No naked geysers left on the map? No chunks to haul?

KILLED BY A FUCKING SQUIRELL

>>154400128
If you're having rodent problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a squirrel ain't one.

>>154400448
say that to my face IRL and see what happens,famala

>>154399620
>that gulag

>>154400116
Everyone not incapable of violence has a sniper rifle and an open spot in the killbox, freezer is full, sloth farm is up and running, research is complete, and I just buy resources from bulk traders. I could build the ship but who actually builds the ship?

>starting new colony
>dont want to be in mountain again
>rolling new maps to find the one
>finally get it and start drawing plans
>done with plans
>cooling ? heating ?
fuck this shit, another comfy mountain run for me it is
i'd rather deal with bugs than the heating issues

>>154400592
Are the sniper rifles legendary? Do you have a 20 medicine doctor to give everyone bionics? If not go abuse some animals and then heal them. You should get more healroots in order to use for training your doctor and to stockpile in case the storyteller hits you with the plague. Fill your dining room with expensive and beautiful stuff to improve your colonists mood every time you eat and give them better rooms. You want to have extra mood in case of a psychic drone.

how the hell i get steel without dropping from a ship?

>>154401387
Mine it, buy it, smelt weapons made from it and steel chunks into it, disassemble dead robots into it, drill for it, claim and deconstruct walls into it, or pray randy drops it.

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>>154401280
>too casual to build a few ACs and heaters

>>154402247
>being this close to raiders
>not pausing every .500 seconds
I'm triggered. Good bear though.

>>154401304
Yes, doctor has 100% surgery success chance, healroot grows faster than it's used but trader's are an infinite supply regardless, and everyone has painstoppers. All that's left is to buy bionics whenever traders have them and replace all colonist gear with megatherium wool.

Realistically it's time for another colony but then I'd lose this dope screensaver.

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I didn't know grass seeds were even an item, let alone that that items can move.

>>154403706
Yeah. That's how all the plant life propagates back to areas you try to kill with fire.

>>154389383
l can already see the raiders hugging the walls and digging through your freezer or fucking up that thin rock wall next to the solar panels

>>154403814
Are they created out of nothing or produced by plants?

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First time I win (Done on Cassandra rough on permadeath). Didn't want to leave, but things were getting boring.
What fun mods/game modes should I try next, rwg? Also rate my base.

>pyromaniac starts burning my shit down during the night
>arrest him so i wont have to micro sleeping pawns to firefight
>have to re-recruit him now

Oh for fuck's sake, this game needs a proper justice system like DF.

>>154403706
At first I thought they were fireflies.

>>154404178
not applying eugenics
ISSIGYDHIDY

>>154404095
If you just release him he rejoins the colony, scrubber.

>>154399620

people can sit at crafting benches?

god damn

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Pizza

>>154405468
>battery of batteries
A E S T H E T I C

>>154405468
THE BATTERIES ARE TOUCHING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>154405889
consider what the word "battery" means, and then neck yourself.

>>154406118
Touching batteries are a hazard in rimworld, sad child.

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>>154406305
Its okay tho

>TFW using the powered research table in the rain and it fucking exploded

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This guy won't get out of the bed after i instealled a Rib, is it a bug or there's a reason behind it i'm not aware of?
I already tried replacing his eyes just in case Cataract was actually debilitating him but that's not the source of the problem.

>>154408072
Reinstall his bed, might fix it.

>>154406504
Put roofs over electronics.

>>154401937

Source.

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MY GAME IS RUINED! SEND HELP PLEASE!

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How do I switches for turrets?

>>154410160
Put a extra piece of wire going down from the switch and reconnect.

>>154410160
Switches are basically wires that can be turned on/off. Look where the turrets are connected, then ask yourself why switching the switch won't do anything.

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>first raid
>guy is husband of 1 of my colonists
>down him
>inprison and fix up
>98% recruitment difficulty
>release him
>dies on the way out
>wife gets -20 mood for 1 season

>>154410267
>>154410413
thanks I got it

>>154409637

I came, also strangely fitting for a rimmworld thread.

>happy colonist with no dependency gets into cocaine/psychite binge
>snorts two lines in the binge
Is this common? I had to rush a campfire to burn all yayo before she snorted it.

As soon as the binge ends, this bitch will be locked working until the effect is over.

>thrumbos have 520 hitpoints in their body
>the health replenishes at the same rate as it would on any other animal, point by point
>thrumbo is stuck in bed for a year after a tough raid

Is this a design choice or just an oversight?

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>>154413061
Picture

>>154389383

Block it off completely and make them go around

>>154404095

That's what I started with and it was a bit too easy. Try randy on challenge.

>go full random group because im bored
>1 of my 3 people died early to a raid
>the other 2 both refuce to haul+cook and starve
10/10 now i know why i roll 100 times for no disadvantages

>>154413061
>Is this a design choice or just an oversight?
The only reason this would be implemented is to stop thrumbos from being overpowered war machines. But they're already so hard to tame that I guess it's an oversight.

>>154415110
I got mine via the self-tame event. Training is about 2% chance per step though, so they're hard to get to fight for you.

>>154413741

>All is going good for the 1st day
>Raiders on the second nothing to big
>Tribals right after I killed the last raiders literally
>Tough battle but no serious injuries and at least I can rest after the last battle
>A freaking poison ship on the very same day
>Its cool, I could set a killzone with wood after I properly damage the ship
>3rd day and I am ready to kill the ship
>Start shooting but thereafter I get raided by tribals again
>I-i can turn this bad streak of but luck to good if I can get the tribals to kill the death robots
>Freaking centipede burns my wooden killzone thanks to the tribals
>Have my last injured survivor in my locked in my home with the giant death centipede knocking at my door
>Don't want to know how it ends
>He won't live to see the 4th day

Randy is easier than Cassandra they say, t-thanks anon. This is the last time I take your advice.

>>154415673

meanwhile in my world I'm on my 4th escape pod

randy be crazy

WHAT IS PROPER BATTERY SET UP+SWITCHES+WIRES?

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Should I buy this game? I played a little bit but I'm really not sure... it's fun but early access and shit.

>>154416709
>battery
>proper setup
If you really have to rely on these, build one right next to your walk-in-fridge's cooler or other absolutely vital thing, wire it until it's full, then deconstruct the wires. If the power goes out, tell the cooler or whatever to reconnect to the battery.
Wires don't BZZZT if they aren't connected to batteries.

>>154416709
The proper way is to calculate the amount of electricity each section of your base uses and then build only enough generators to power that part based on the average amount they generate and wire them all together. The power produced by generators fluctuate, so you have to add batteries to that section to contain energy produced during high output (strong wind, daylight) so it can be stored and then used when your generators are weak (no wind, night). Those batteries will be always on. If you use geothermals you don't need to build those batteries because they always generate the same amount of power. You need to divide your base into multiple sections otherwise one zzt will nuke all your batteries. Next you will need to build generators in excess of what you normally use and connect those to batteries who will serve as backup power, then connect those batteries to each section of your base but make sure there's a switch between each battery and a section of your base and also between each battery and the generators and between each battery and other batteries and make sure you don't connect the multiple sections of your base by accident. You want to cover each battery with stone walls from all directions so when it explodes they absorb all the damage and there will be no fire. Good luck m8 and get geothermal, fuck zzt.

>>154417762
buy games you enjoy playing.

>>154410049
just get your military guys to go out and shoot them all. then drag all the bodies back for num nums

>>154419660
The fact that Alphabeavers are a "bad" event is kind of ridiculous. They don't fight back and they make for good eatin', and they stick to one big pack.

What does unusually clever tactics actually mean?

I don't know if I've ever noticed a difference.

>>154420290
"Let's split up, gang!"

>>154420261
all that it would need is if for any amount of damage they all go man-eater or something and fight back as a group. Then again they are probably going to be super easy to kite around like it is with siegers

>>154420290
I think they're more likely to split up and hit walls instead of coming to a killbox

Or something

>>154420290
As far as I can tell it just makes their AI slightly less retarded and more reactive in dynamic combat situations. If you don't use any tactics yourself you wouldn't notice.

>>154420562
>>I think they're more likely to split up and hit walls instead of coming to a killbox
NO MAN ON EARTH CAN MAKE IT FALL

Do prison conditions affect the chance of a break? I've got them holed in a pretty decent barracks, but they seem to prefer being mowed down by my turrets.

>>154420958
Prison breaks are more likely when prisoners are unhappy and grouped together.

>>154421165
I see. I got them together, because it's a lot less time consuming to feed them via stockpiles. Guess I'll have to deal with occasional death, then.

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th-thanks, Randy Bobandy.

So what's the best drug for constant, baseline mood improvements?

>>154422249
Clean living.

alternatively, try LSD microdosing

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Sometimes the solution for the problems presents itself.
Do you enjoy crafting, pussy?

>tfw you spend 1000 wood on beds just to give your guests a +5 mood bonus for no actual reason

we may not survive winter but until then at least we've got the best hotel on the rim

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>>154422475
>components in an unroofed area

>>154423053
They won't spoil. And I'm solving that Soon®.

Why are coolers and heaters and stoves so absurdly low-power, while basic-ass lightbulbs draw 150 watts?

Come to think of it, if the lightbulb draws 150 watts and the heater draws 100, why doesn't the lightbulb work as 1.5x a heater?

>>154423329
Tynan doesn't care a whole lot about tweaking numerical values when so much of the game is still subject to major changes.

25W light bulbs is one of my few must have mods.

>>154423329
Tynan is an environmentalist and wants you to use tiki torches forever

>>154423814
>environmentalist
>likes tiki torches
UHHH RIMTARDS?

>>154423814
>tfw no alternative fossil fuel tech path that slowly pollutes the entire map and renders it unlivable

When are we getting a rape dungeon mod? I can't wait.

>>154424157
>inb4 outrage demanding that you not be allowed to strip female prisoners

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y-you'll be alright, buddy...

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>8 terriers join colony
>they go to sleep
>tribal raid
>spawns right on top of the sleeping terriers

rest in piece puppers ;_;7

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Lazy and staggering ugly? No good skill? No problem! I need someone to train my docs.

>>154426903
>Tiny as fuck Japanese rooms

Jesus anon, if you treat your survivors that way I did hate to be your enemies.

What kind of person "doesn't haul"?

>>154427621
Organ donors.

>>154427387
>using the poor state of his rooms to speculate on his treatment of prisoners
>while looking at a picture of him removing limbs from a prisoner

if a 'patient' dies on the table how long do you have to extract working organs

>>154428121
Zero.

>>154428467
so you have to take one lung out and all that other shit first and try to take the heart out last before the 'patient' dies of shock?

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GODDAMN!
And here goes my dummy.

>>154427387
I treat my prisoners well. They get all surgeries they need plus some more.

>>154428604
They'll die immediately after you harvest their heart, liver, or last kidney/lung.

Lung1 -> Kidney1 -> Heart/Lung2/Liver/Kidney2

I need to embark with a psychopathic doctor and see if i dont get sick from harvesting organs..

>>154429196
Doesn't the entire colony get upset though?

Of course, that just makes for an even more compelling "Urbworld Loner" start.

How do I stop male colonists from trying romance with already engaged woman?

I found a use for staggeringly ugly colonists.

Kill them in a fistfight and everyone gets a +8 mood boost for killing their rival.

>>154431497
An age old question, however, nothing can stop the dick.

>>154428121
You can't extract organs from the dead. A shame, since one of the raiders got a nice bionic arm, it would combo well with Lynx' bionic leg.

>>154431497
Give them different shifts.

>>154399620
using this screenshot as a reference

you see how some of the crops on the left are in shadow? does this affect growing?

i wish it was in the code that if a pawn chops wood it will also haul it to a stockpile if its a big enough stack of material

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>when the bear breeding program is coming along nicely

>>154433195
do attack burrs actually work well or is this just a fun/trophy pet thing

>>154434162
1) they actually tame/train pretty easily
2) they're pretty good all told; maybe like a decent brawler with armor and a club but no personal shield or something.
3) I like that they can provide space for my ranged pawns
4) they're pretty durable; it takes a lot of hits to kill one or down one
5) I'm new to this game and pretty bad so take my opinions with a grain of salt

>>154433195
>varvara

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T18deTeV0RI

>>154434523
Reminds me of misery mod.

>Killbox isn't finished yet
>Time to take out that shotties out with my best shooter to clear the room
>Wait, i should send two with him incase something goes wrong
>Ha, a melee trying to attack me lol
>Line them up and let the carnage begin
>They all missed the first volley
>hmm, he is dangerously close better retreat the one he us aiming at
>Raider zooms past the both my survivors as expected
>Somehow, one survivor shoots the other in the face
>missing neck
>Raider is still attacking the other getting his guts scrambled
>strafe left to the auto door but gets stabbed making him flinched
>Other shoots hitting the other survivor
>Missing right leg
>Fucking finally kill the raider

Fuck this shit I neef to rest.