/dsg/ Demon's/Dark Souls General

wear loincloth

show your legs

The farron memedogs are officially dead. No summon in 4 hours.

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO IS CONSTANTLY HORNY AND WANT TO IMPREGNATE ALL THE SOULSBORNE GIRLS???

>>154305675
Lewd

>>154305764
SL?

In for poise

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post your favorite bosses /dsg/
>abyss watchers
>orny and smug

>>154305991
>this shit taste
go away
shoo

>>154305764
Watchdongs have always been dead. They broke the autosummon covenants on release and never fixed that one because nobody gave a shit.

>>154305440

Are people from here really this introverted? I mean I never add people from FCs on my friends list just because I don't talk much but it's not like asking someone out on a date.

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>>154305764

The desire sensor is real and it's part of everything
>Only ever start the game up to PvP for 30 minutes or so or go to FCs
>Only stayed at the FC for like 4 rounds but literally got 3 farron summons in total while waiting to get summoned, at SL 120
One more and I can actually get the dog hair sword.

>>154306087

If you want the Old Wolf CS I can give it to you, I have a spare.

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>>154306073
stop disagreeing with me

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>>154305991
Storm king da best

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>>154305991
Penetrator
Artorias
Looking Glass Knight
Champion Gundyr

>>154306085
You underestimate the power of introversion anon

Anyways, why don't FC people leave their comment section public so they don't have to necessarily add each other? (I won't because I don't care about this stuff)

>>154305918
>20.04 poise and a Zweihander can hyperarmor against everything

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>>154306206
How about no?

>>154306337
best R2

>>154306325
Probably because that means your name is now attached to a post that's publicly visible to anyone that checks that person's page

>>154305824
Its a part of being a teen, it will level out eventually

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Who is your Chosen Undead anons?

I think Putin would link my fire.

>last game in the series
>shortest game
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>massive amounts of on-disc cut content that will sold as DLC
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>rehashed animations
>invasions sucks
>Heavy armor sucks
>armor sets don't even fit properly
>brown and grey
>shit AI
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>awful scaling balance
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one LOCKED BEHIND THE FINAL BOSS
>awful covenants
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for quirky weapons. In the end less weapon variety than BB
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frames
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB

>b-but the DLC will save it!
lmfao

>>154306468
You have a solid point i guess

>tfw you'd be just fine with talking to dsg goers but no one wants to add you

>>154306303
>penetrator
I havent had a single playthrough where i 1v1 him because biorr just makes the fight so much easier. Good boss though

>>154306184

Thanks but it's not urgent, I doubt I will put the last slab I have left for this cycle on it and this char is supposed to stay on NG.

>>154306652
>claims to be fine
>but doesn't add people himself
Nobody likes a wallflower, loser.

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Waiting for the inevitable curved sword and straight sword nerf.

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>>154305013
The ruse mask has more charm than edge mask #3342 imo

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>SL1 CHALLENGE RUN
>Literally skipping 99% of the content
>Challenge

>>154306753

Speaking of, how would /dsg/ properly nerf Straight/Curved Swords without making them useless? I like the idea in previous threads of separating Straight Sword swing speeds between Heavy/Short sword R1 speeds to actually give reasons to use things like the Short Sword but more ideas like that are fun to discuss.

>>154306753
I'm gonna be sad when the day finally comes
>Carthus CS nerfed
>can't abuse it to deal with 3v1 ganks anymore
>nothing else is fast and damaging enough to safely attack into 3 people
>can't kill phantoms with two combos anymore unless I'm using something too slow to ever hit passive gankers with ranged backup
>will actually, unironically be forced to parryfish to win invasions instead of actually having fun and swinging a weapon
It'll be a sad day. Hopefully the DLC at least adds something as fun as the beast cutter so I can still enjoy myself even as I get wrecked.

>>154306652
Same here

>>154306986
That's exactly what should have been done from the start. The shorter swords like Broadsword and Painting Guardian be untouched speed-wise, maybe an AR nerf for some. The Longswords need a straight speed nerf.

>>154306946
>b-but I beat the game at SL1
>i-i totally got gud!

>>154306986
I would nerf swing speed, and maybe a bit of base damage

I just finished NG+ with my barbed straight sword, is there any weapon that is as good or btter than it for PvE? I heard twinblades melt bosses, is it true?

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https://youtu.be/QHgs4SKql5Y

I found love in dark souls

>>154306753
Is golden man still with us. Or has he left us like the rest?

Question.

Does farron's ring reduce the fp consumed on a weapon art that cast spell like the cleric candlestick?

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YO WADDUP!!!

/dead shitposting general/

>invade as aldrichfag and die
>suddenly no more signs on the ground
>realize i'm in shadow server
>tfw this happened yesterday for the exact same reason

Is the game telling me to stop invading as an aldrich faithful?

>>154306986
That's basically what I'd do.
Adjust their hitbox to properly match up to their model instead of the shit we have now
Slow down the 1HR1s of all straightswords, but by different amounts.

Barbed Sword, Shortsword, Cleric's Candlestick and Lothric's Holy Sword would get the slightly faster R1s.
The rest would get the slower R1s
Also I'd lower the damage of Gotthard's rolling L1 significantly but leave them otherwise unchanged

As for Curved Swords, I'd slow down the 2HR1s of all the falchion-type CS (Falchion, storm, carthus shotel, carthus sword). The first R1 would start up notably slower and the second R1 would have significantly more recovery. The Carthus Sword specifically would have a rather significant slow down, larger than the rest, but would otherwise be totally unchanged. I'm talking like katana R1 speed for most falchions and 1H greatsword speed for the carthus.
The scimitar-type curved swords would be untouched. They're fine as they are with their low AR compensating for their speed. Maybe the pontiff knight sword could get a slight stamina cost increase since it has so much reach

I'd also increase the startup and recovery of the katana running attack considerably. The washingpole specifically would startup slower and have more recovery than the rest.

And where glaives are considered, I'd go as far as to remove the hyperarmor entirely from their 2HR1s but that would probably make crutchshitters cry so maybe just narrowing the HA window and increasing the recovery of the 1st R1 so you cant' stagger it so goddamn quickly. If they were allowed to retain HA, I would change the modifier from 1.5 to 0.5

Of course, all of this would go alongside some significant buffs to the terrible weaponclasses but that'd be too much to list in a single post

What do they mean by Human Effigies in DaS2 as opposed to regular Humanity in DaS? Also what happened to all the firekeepers?

>>154307273
Carthus Curved Sword, only 2h though.
It's overpowered and fun.

>>154307940
>Also I'd lower the damage of Gotthard's rolling L1 significantly but leave them otherwise unchanged

Just make it have the same hitbox and tracking as the Drang Twinspears Rolling L1, for some reason despite being the exact same attack the Twinspears version has noticeably less phantom range and tracking.

>>154307967
A very, very long time has passed since DaS1. So long that history doesn't even clearly record the events of that time. Firekeepers are largely a lost practice and the retired ones you meet in the beginning are presumably in some sort of timeless limbo as part of their connection to the flame itself. The Firekeeper that tends to Majula is artificially created - rediscovery of the practice by a scholar rather than a continuation of the practice's heritage

Effigies are basically just humanities. Their name is different and they're looked upon differently simply because so much of the knowledge from the time of Lordran has been lost to history. Also because of the nature of the being that currently controls most of Drangleic, free-radical humanity such that was common in DaS1 is no longer really around. The wrapping around effigies are probably part of what keeps them separate from the pseudo-abyss that's consumed the kingdom and allows you to appropriate them for your own use.

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Post weapon you wished were added with the DLCs

I can't fucking decide between farron sword and wolf night sword. Anyone have strong opinions on these two?

>>154308097
The hitbox problem is part of the hitbox issue that affects all straightswords. But, even with that fixed there's no reason that a straightsword rolling attack should ever trade for like 800 damage. The idea of them having access to a fast, long reach poke out of a roll isn't bad in and of itself, but it should not be so strong that it can functionally be your entire damage output, or that you can out-trade literally everything by just spamming it over and over.

>>154306946
>>154307159
I have one friend who's a huge le hardcore gaymer elitist and absolutely despises anybody who dares to play a game he considers casual,
I played DaS3 with him once. He ran past every enemy on a fucking SL180 character in co-op. When I asked him what the fuck he's doing, he said he always plays the game like this on NG+ and beyond.
3hardcore5me

>>154308614
Loyce Greatsword

>>154308682
wolf knight has nothing special, there are a lot of better greatswords out there, farron is unique I dont like it, but at least is different

>>154308593
This was detailed and informative. Thank you

>>154308614
Balder Swag Sword.

>>154308614
Sanctum Mace.

>>154308614
Hellix halberd, that shit was crazy

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>>154308614
I love it, but I also realise it's not even close to being popular enough to return
never fucking ever

>>154307748
How are you today

>>154308682
Both do 20% bonus damage to abyss enemies
Wolf Knight GS is the longest greatsword and the 2nd highest AR (behind the BKS) but it has bad R2s with no hyperarmor. The WAR1 is useless but the WAR2 is actually quite useful for pve. It's faster than a charged R2 and does about as much damage but has a tonne of reach from the jump, will interrupt most enemies and will pancake on the hit. Good for locking down faggot enemies like pontiff knights and hitting weakpoints on big enemies like the pontiff dogs.
Farron GS is the lowest AR UGS, only reaching up to 500AR at 40/40 (lower than most greatswords). The unique L1s are really useful and quite strong; they lower your hitbox close to the ground and allow you to low-profile under a lot of boss attacks. However, their low damage and high stamina cost can make it a pain in the ass to use against some enemies and they're bad for DPS.

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>>154309240
extra gud. how u?

>>154308749
>super fast 2h poke that has superlong reach
That'd be scary as hell, could probably replace hollowslayer if it had decent R1s

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>>154308614
Probably a good thing it won't be as it'd be a split weapon with shitty scaling and a limited-range special attack.

>>154308814
I really like the wolf night sword's leap though.

>>154309383
Let's be honest, in DaS3 it would just have a completely generic greatsword moveset with Stance WA. They wouldn't even bother giving it a unique 2H moveset, it would just be a claymore with lower AR and D/C scaling

>>154309383
I also want Drakeblood to have the DaS2 moveset back. It did poke/slash and slash/poke on the R2s.

>>154307448
Pretty sure it does, but the amount is negligible on those wa it hardly matters

>>154309502
This is sad but true, which worries me about that black flame gs we're getting in the dlc

>inb4 quality with d/d int+faith scaling
>bastard sword moveset with simply an unique WA buff

This is infuriating.
The Anor Londo steps are a perfect farming spot. 5000 souls from the two knights, plenty of titanite, summons for Aldritch, ears if I decide to hate myself, even the occasional invasion.
Except this particular steps make my computer crash. Like completely crash; black screen, stutter noises, turns off. Never had that happen before, compy runs everything perfectly fine, compy runs everything else in this game perfectly fine, but here? Nope, dad, maybe 40-60% of the time.
Why!? How is it in this one innocuous part? What poorly optimized shit is there in that cathedral that fucks everything up so bad?

>>154309507
I might be wrong, but didn't that thing have a fucking S dex scaling in 2? In 3 they turned it into one of the 241512551927512251 quality weapons...

Someone confirm is AGS 2h rolling attack is still unparryable?

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>>154306541
It's all a travesty, if you ask me.

>>154309754
Yes, it had S dex scaling, it was ok but other greatswords such as Loyce or Watcher's were just better

>>154309702
let's be optimistic anon
what if it's the MLGS of dark builds
pure dark damage with decent fth and int scalings

I'm probably delusional, but fucking hell, DS3 really needs dark weapons

>>154309702
It looked UGS-sized to me.
It'll probably have no int/fth scaling at all and just a 12 req of each. It'll be pure physical aside from the WA, which will add a flat 80 dark damage for 40 seconds. Scaling will be C/B and it won't be infusable.

>>154306303
I feel like if that sword made it into the game it wouldve made more sense than the Greatsword we have now while still being pretty thematic to Tarkus. Plus, by the looks of it, it couldve been a strike weapon using a sword moveset. PERFECT for killing the Iron Golem.

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>>154309502

>>154309754
S at +5, yes, but scaling doesn't mean much in DaS2. You can have an A scaling as good as S scaling, so it's easier to look at a table with the correct values.

>>154309883
Not really, it has the lowest stamina consumption of all greatswords and the split damage was alright against shields. Oh, and 130 counter damage.

Does anyone wanna co-op through the scorched lake on ps4? I'll be waiting at the Demon Ruins bonfire, beside the old demon king. Password iuiui

>>154309754
They didn't even turn it into a quality weapon. It has fucking D/D scaling. It's basically just for int or fth buff builds.

>DaS3 is bad
>when Hey! exists

>>154309792
Still unparryable, still deals thrust damage, still benefits fully from leoring.

>>154310050
I'm aware of DS2 scalings being weaker, but turning a pure dex weapon into quality is fucking pathetic regardless.
It's not even the only example of that...

>>154310187
Hey! doesn't excuse the loss of Mock, Pump Up, No Way!, "This One's Me," Decapitate, Roar or Joy!

Guys why can't i have my Dragon bone fist in ds3?

>>154310301
they would want you to keep going even in tough times

>>154310356
How DARE you suggest a ds2 weapon ?!

>>154310101
the scaling gets better at refined, though
I'm sure 90% of DS3 weapons have D/D scalings by default

>>154310356
Everytime someone asks for this weapon I keep thinking they mean the one from DaS1 and it confuses the ever living fuck out of me trying to figure out why someone would want that one back.

>>154306529
this pic has some REALLY fucked up perspective

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>>154308614
fromsoft pls

>>154310356
Only when i get to have my Hands of God in DS3

>>154310559
>hating the dragon bone fist
get the fuck out of my /dsg/

>>154306753
I probably shouldnt have laughed so at this

>>154309409
Grab it then, you can get the othet one later anyway

>>154310529
usually they're C/D or D/C, but who cares when with refined gem (so balanced) you get B/B most of the time?

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>>154310690
>fist weapons in DaS1

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>>154310007
>I feel like if that sword made it into the game
Executioner's Greatsword.

>>154310872
its blade is too thin
also it's so fucking terrible I refuse to believe it exists

60 +6 or 50 +5?

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>>154308614
This Halberd, Velka's rapier or a twinblade.
>inb4 Twinblades a shit

>you can't sprint while in Chameleon form
shit souls 3

>>154308614
Manus' Catalyst and/or Golem's Axe.
I just want an axe that lets me shoot stuff out of it. Is it really too much to ask for?

anyone wanna help with prince lothric on pc?

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Does Affinity deal good damage in ds3 ?

>>154310624

>Fromsoft put's Hands of God in DaS3

>Normal fist moveset, except it's entirely thrust damage
>Weapon art is the drangspears charge with both spears but instead it's both fists going ORA ORA ORA with lightning sparks

FUND IT

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>>154310796

>>154311390
Can you please stop posting Dancer of the Boreal Valley's butt?

>>154311475

>did less damage then a basic R2 from a Straight Sword with that much wind-up

Wow.

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>>154311135
do you know how many times a pot has sprinted at me and i had a heart attack

>>154310529
It's pretty rare for something at +10 to have D/D
Most end up at least C/X and the few that have shitty scaling in one stat end up with B or higher in another. Refined only tends to be super beneficial for weapons with a really big gulf between str and dex scaling. For most stuff that's close in scaling it only increases total AR by a few points at 40/40

Charge WA Smough's Hammer when?

Charge WA Settlement Bone Saw when?

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>>154311591
What are you, some kind of homo ?

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>>154311591
but it's a very nice butt

>>154311390
No, it's like 460 damage if you hit all 5 orbs. And they're really fucking slow.

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>>154311651

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>>154308614
I want a greater variety of non-sword weapons in general.

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>>154306946
>>154307159
>PvE
>exploiting braindead AI and artificial difficulty
>"challenge"
What's wrong? Can't handle a real fight?

>>154311975
>that last-second veer to the left to avoid hitting Andre

If I wanted to use all of the flire weapons, the demon great axe, demon fists, the gargoyle weapons etc, what sort of build should I use? how much should I invest in actually using pyromancy?

should I just go 40/40 quality? :(

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You know why i had bad connection to you guys in fightclubs and shown everyone Quality internet?
...
I was too lazy to buy a 15m long ethernet cable.
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5618668568
http://imgur.com/vi4YU1H,lfUVLfw,4VaaveO

I actually need 15m of cabling it is not for show. Also needed to use a spare router, my usual router was half broken and old.

So here is actual FC now for you, nerds.
Lothric Castle
Password - dsg
Place signs where i stand, fight in the bonfire area.

>>154311975
This sort of ability to pressure would fix hammers a little bit.

>riposte animation for scythes

bravo.... fromsoft animators.... realism... at its finest...

>>154312117
Yep.
IIRC you need 12 int/fth to use all the innate fire weapons but any scaling beyond that is trivial compared to str/dex

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*tink*
*tink*
*tink*
*tink*
*tink*
comfy souls?

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>>154312001

So what's your favourite video clip of this one, /dsg/?

I really like the one with the Murakumo R1 into reverse roll BS.

>>154312137
>DS1 classifies scythes as halberds and gives them the retarded halberd crit animations
>DS2 makes them a separate weapon class and gives them unique crit animations
>DS3 classifies them as a separate weapon class, but reuses the DS1 crits anyway because GOD FORBID they actually make new animations for a new game

>>154310559
I... i did mean the ds 1version.... hadouken is fun s-senpai...

>>154312127
Just use gargoyles and maybe witch locks. Those are your only viable options.

>>154312117
Demon Greataxe and Fist both have primary scaling in strength, much more than Dex, unless my calc is out of date.

Flame Spear works fine on quality or pyro 40/40

>>154312294
I'm not saying that it takes no skill, because it definitely does, but I hate all tryhardfaggotry that consists exclusively out of abusing the game's flaws

>>154312479
Fuck, wrong guy - >>154312117

>>154312137

>Executioner GS pierces through
>Isn't even sharp

>>154312604

That's a shame really, the only reason DaS1 PvP is any good is because of the flaws and glitches. From can't really make good PvP intentionally.

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>>154312479
>encouraging others to use exclusively top tier weapons

>>154311127
>Drang Twin Spears WA wasnt a stance that attached them at the hilts to turn them into Twinblades
From really lacks creativity

>>154312809
>Witches Locks
> Top tier
lel. Seriously though, demon's greataxe is a greataxe with split damage and no range and demon's fists are a fist weapon

>>154305606
what is a boss i get summoned to help fight that will have lots of people needing help? im just getting back into this game a little bit

>>154312127
Be there in 3 hours

>>154312943
>Demon's Greataxe
>no range
pick one buddy
its range is comparable to yhorm's and better than both greataxe and BKGA (it's shorter than BKGA, but has a better moveset)

>>154310050
>but scaling doesn't mean much in DaS2
People seem to forget that physical defence is a flat damage reduction. So the 50 or so extra damage meant pre dlc 150 damage instead of 100 with fast weapons against full havels. Even more so if you hardcapped like intended.
Then of course they fucked it up.

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I wish the entire game was set just in High Wall + Lothric Castle with tons of secrets and different hidden areas. Maybe something like undead settlement that MAYBE could have a farron keep mausoleum beyond. Everything past that is NO.

Irithyll of the hallway town is a bore.

>>154313108
King of the Storm

Maybe Dancer
Greatwood.
Soul of Cinder

>>154312127
1v1 or FFA

I want to fucking rape and torture Karla!

>>154313274
I don't really get the hate for irythill. I mean, there are better levels, but it's not THAT bad. Why the fuck you keep farron swamp but remove irythill?

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>>154311135
>can't block either

what's the fucking point

I've got a few questions for all you dudes who play at sl120 in FCs and pontif duels and shit.

How much of the npc stuff do you do when building a new char?

How much am I gimping myself by only upgrading weapons to +9?

How important are +1 and +2 rings? Are they worth slogging through to ng++?

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>>154313343
1vf, FFA later on, if we get enough people

Chair genocide FTW

>>154313512
I love that webm
ds2 was so fucking fun
it had its flaws, but it was definitely the best dark souls when it comes to fucking around and PvP in general

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>>154313274
>ywn have a game that's basically just Boletaria set during the initial Demon invasion with the length of Bloodborne and set in only Boletarian Palace and the surrounding town but with a really interconnected level design.

>>154313468
Because I don't like the way you travel to Anor Londo. I'd much prefer if everything was around High Wall instead of going on a straight line towards Aldrich.

I do like irithyll and how it looks, I just think they could make it more open.

>>154313687
Get at least Greirat's and Sieg quest for upgrades and bolts.
Not at all.
Not mucch, you can see the difference on mugenmonkey, it amounts to 100 health between lifering+0 and ring of favor+0 to a lifering+3 and ring of favor+2. Chloranty+2 and Havel's+2 are great, so trade at least those.

>>154312236
Someone should make a side-by-side WebM of Andre in DaS1 and DaS3 hammering at that Estoc.

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>anor londo is in the game
>lightning demons are in the game
>lightning demons don't take you to anor londo
for fuck's sake memezaki, at least do fanservice properly

>>154313937
and mcduff swinging at nothing

>>154313512
>DaS2 was the last good Souls game
Any chance the DLC unfucks dual wielding?
Like offhand weapons get WR, WD and WA capabilities? Imagine the variety.

>>154312782
They should've incorporated the good aspects of those flaws and glitches into new features.

Like, make a stunlock breaking mechanic that requires precise timing (like toggle escape, but balanced). Or make reverse rolls or ravioli step an intended mechanic that's slightly easier to perform and with a smoother animation.

Combos in fighting games were originally a glitch, but the developers realized that they were popular and fun enough that they left them in and focused on balancing them instead of just removing them.

>DkS3 just goes offline
The fuck myhackzki

>>154305991
>Artorias
>Ornstein & Smoggy
>Fume Knight
>Sir Alonne
>Dancer of the (waifu) Valley
>Lothric and Lorian
>Soul of Cinder

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>second game in the series
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>massive amounts of on-disc cut content that will sold as DLC
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them, had to wait until SOTFS to fix it
>need 4 lord souls to get over a pile of rubble
>boring NPCs
>broken animations
>no red eye orb
>adaptability tied to i-frames
>soul memory
>repeating textures
>literally cheating AI
>Armor all looks like plastic
>Hexes require souls to use, inflating soul memory
>the largest collection of the worst bosses in the series
>one of the worst bosses of all time is immediately after a lazy O&S re skin and is THE FINAL BOSS
>awful covenants
>rolling makes you go 2 feet
>can’t slowly turn in a quarter circle, cardinal directions only, worst control of the series
>lava level in the sky
>raped the lore and added stupid bullshit like “golems”
>charged full price for a “complete edition” that separates half the players
>frame rate breaks weapons faster
>caters to casuals and wannabe hardcore gaymurs with “WELCOME TO DARK SOULS YOU DIED” epic achievements XD
>hexes gone and dark magic are over powered
>worst soundtrack of the series
>soul memory prevents further playthroughs unless you devote a ring slot to fix a horribly broken mechanic

lmfao

>>154313759
>with a really interconnected level design
Stop it. DaS was a fluke. They have proven again and again that they can't do this shit anymore.

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>>154314035
That would be too good for Memezaki.

>>154313959
>no lightning demon spear
>they literally never appear in the game again
>game has its own type of gargoyle that doesn't do the transportation

All in the name of pleasing the nostalgiababbies

>>154313959
by the way, how come that out of all the retarded angel speculation nobody actually thought that these guys are the angels?
>servants of the gods
>originating from the place where the gods lived
>winged
>use spears imbued with lightning, the gods' element
>present at lothric, the place where all the angel worshippers are

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>>154313987

>>154313987
DS1 is the only good dark souls game

>>154314481
Because they don't match the iconography of the angel-worshipers at all. Their cult use physical damage miracles and have literal angel wings. There's nothing lightning or sunlight themed to them at all.

>>154313987
They would have shown that in the trailer, instead we see player character get hit by an attack that he shouldn't have because backstep is trash.

>>154314815
That was my favourite part of the trailer
>have so little finished content to show that your B-roll involves a character getting hit and damaged by an attack that clearly misses by a wide margin because the enemy's hitboxes are bad
When you have nothing to show off but a torch weapon art and bad hitboxes, you know your DLC is gonna be trash.

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>>154314481
The Angels are likely to be just another big Berserk reference that aren't going to be elaborated further upon more.

>Get Chaos Bed Vestiges
>Costs 2 attunement while Fire Orb costs 1
>Costs 2.5x as much FP as Fire Orb
>Actually compensates by travelling faster, casting just as fast, and doing close if not more than 2x the damage
Why isnt Crystal Soul Spear as good as this? I would gladly pay 2 attunement slots to make Crystal Soul Spear good.

memeahackazika

>>154314198
I know this is a poor attempt of copypasting a copypasta, but

>DS2
>awful covenants

At least try

>>154314790
Not 100% sure about that
The 3 strongest angel worshippers wear golden armor and use golden weapons. This color is associated with lightning and the sun.
I might be going too far with that since golden is also just a color representing power, but maybe it's worth considering.

>>154314782
nice nostalgia goggles breh

ded FC
ded game

>bloodborne greatswords swing faster than DaS2 curved swords

Why did they make this ugly game so slow and boring?

>>154314229
It's not even hard. Just design most levels vertically. They kept trying to make sparse long horizontal levels, and that's what they look like. Fucking stupid 2.5m high gates like the Sully shortcut one.

>>154315309
no red eye orb
no blue eye orb

try again

>>154315406
Because BB kinda sucked and the excessive speed made it spammy and mindless.

>>154315364
can't come I'm watching anime

So we can all agree that Maria bossfight had the best song right?

>>154307940
2sword can never ever be properly balanced with that lunging rL1 the way it is.

It needs to be changed completely from a lunging attack to a vertical slash a la broad sword.

>>154315551
So you haven't played it?

>>154315484
That's a mechanical flaw. There are more covenants, that more varied than DS3. It has the best covenants in the entire series.

>>154315589
i prefer ludwigs

>>154315406
The secret is that Studio Japan is the true A-team

>>154315589
it's actually the worst dlc piece of ost, lacking even a clear theme

>>154315484
>sold in unlimited quantity by covenant leaders

No, you try again

>>154315760
>being THIS wrong

>>154315701
it had the rat covenant. that's it.

locking a boss behind a covenant is just annoying, making it cost effigies was even more annoying

at least in 3 we get a red eye orb, mound makers, and the best iteration of the park rangers

>>154315364
can't come because in shadow server again (i'm about to check if i'm back however)

>>154315865
Its clear you have a hateboner for DS2, but praising DS3's completely broken covenants that prioritzes new users and a reskin of reds is retarded.

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>>154315829
oh sure, just let me farm some more- oh wait the enemies de-spawned

i'll just use an a- oh wait, my soul memory is too high

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>never summon NPCs or people in any of the games ever
>Replay all of the games using all the NPC summons for the novelty of seeing new things
>Summon Bashful Ray
>He pulls out binoculars to look at your character sometimes

Fucking neat

>>154316062
Yep you are completely retarded, and haven't actually played the game since vanilla.

>>154315829
>spend invasion souls on orbs
>effectively infinite orbs
>soul memory continues to climb
>eventually pass that 12mil hump and end up matched exclusively with sl800 russian megamule characters
>still only 150 because all my souls were spent on orbs instead of leveling
Release DaS2 was some high-octane cancer. The only way to consistently win against buffstacking muleshitters was with phantom crits and they fixed that bug long before they started banning mules.

>>154315701
>you will never summon another player into your rat maze and fuck them over with traps

I don't remember if there was ever a way to reset Pharros traps in those areas. Also a shame that both of the zones were completely optional, would have been more fun if they were mandatory.

>>154316216
you're god damn right i didn't pay for the same broken fucking game twice

that sounds a hell of a lot like the game's fault, faggot

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FC is still one, anyone can come and join.

If there will be enough people, i will do a FFA

>>154316113
DaS2 npc summons were pretty fucking cool sometimes
>Bradley Beckons you over to signal that he wants to heal you
A true bro. He can take you halfway through No Man's Wharf on a super weak build before his timer runs out.

>>154316298
i had surgery and i'm too miserable to focus

im worried i might OD on pain pills. you mix different kinds, right?

>>154316474
anon please be careful

>>154316474
Go blog somewhere else faggot, nobody cares.

>>154316113
>>154316307
Any other stuff like this?
I know that Jester likes doing the 'who da man? I'm the man' gesture a lot but that's about it

>>154316307
Fun fact: Devotee Scarlet beckons you towards the windmill and points toward it in Earthen Peak.

Would have been better if there were an actual prompt or hint to use fire somewhere, but years after the release of the game I'm pretty sure everybody knows about the windmill by now.

>>154316570
i need to know if i can mix pain killers.

>>154316558
thanks. getting wisdom teeth removed and then getting them infected makes me beg for death

>>154316474
You should ask such question to a doctor. Asking random russians for medical idea is a bad advise. You can join, if you want, if you will be doing too badly nothing prevents you from quitting

>>154313987
No, of course not. When has DLC ever added completely new mechanics?

>>154315735
their own games suck fucking dicks
for example they released one of the worst ps1 jrpgs
on the other hand, they are godly when it comes to helping other teams

>>154316713
if your wisdom teeth got infected you must have the immune system of an aids patient

should have taken your penicillin faggot

>>154316254
git gud

>>154316474
>Mixing painkillers
Nigga stop, stick to one kind until you have consulted your doctor you fuck

>>154316713
"Should I use Google or consult a medical practitioner? Nah, I'll go on the video game imageboard and get some pity"

>>154316628
Maldron fights like a fucking asshole and uses rude gestures after killing you
The people who programmed Lucatiel predicted the intelligence of her sword's future users and made her dumb as fuck

>>154316713
>i need to know if i can mix pain killers.
As a general rule of thumb, mixing drugs is never a good idea unless your doctor explicitly tells you to. Drug incompatibilities are an intricate web of chemical relationships well beyond the pedigree of a layman and the consequences of mixing the wrong drugs can be highly unpleasant and likely to result in severe poisoning, overdose-like effects, heart attacks and complete renal system failure.

You're better off just dealing with the pain instead of being a blubbering vagina that needs to pop a dozen T3s to make it through the day and ends up in a bodybag because you needed a bigger fix of your happy-happy crutchpills.

>>154316713
just shoot yourself if you're gonna mix painkillers, it's quicker

>>154315309
>a rat covenant which is unfair at its very core and instead of fair challenge to both sides provides a completely one-sided beating where the rat has 99% chance to win, which ended up in it being a ghost town with 20 minutes between summons because it's situated in worthless side areas
>worst area defender covenant in series simply because of how bad the belltower level design is compared to wast forest with multiple escape routes and place for gank disposal
>reds and blues that don't even have full fucking orbs, with arena being the worst thing From ever introduced for pvp, dragons designed for duels yet don't have estus turned off
>two irrelevant pve covenants
>sunfags
It had most variety in covenants, sure. But the quality of those covenants is always between "utter fucking shit" and "other games did it better".

>>154316786
DaS3 is doomed.

>>154317168
god i wish someone would kill me, i havent slept in three days

can't even relax with a souls game or masturbate

>>154316628
Apparently this >>154316629
Maldron was pretty much made for fucking with you, with all his shenanigans. There is a knight in Eleum Loyce who will invade you and immediately use a Silver Talisman to become a barrel, and then backstab you as you open a chest nearby. That may have been it sadly, but the invader NPCs were also consistently annoying to me because of shit like Armorer Dennis and Scythe Forlorns.

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>>154317351
>being THIS much of a baby over your fucking wisdom teeth of all things
Christ, just turn in your dick at the front desk, you clearly weren't ready to have it.

>>154317459
i wish this pain upon you. my wisdom teeth were pressing down on a major nerve and artery and then got infected

>>154314167
>>154306303
What do you guys define as good bosses? Because I found Looking Glass Knight and Fume Knight to be super easy. I think I beat Looking Glass Knight on my first or second go, so I barely remember his mechanics. Also Fume Knight had only a couple of moves in his set that were very predictable. I'm especially disappointed because the Fume Sword fucking sucks

Alternatively, I really enjoyed the 2 Shulva Sanctum City bosses. Elana had simple moves that were well telegraphed and easy to dodge, but it became challenging when she summoned things to chase you down. I spent a decent amount of time looking away from her and using sound cues to predict which way to roll. Sinh was a cool dragon fight.

The Ivory King fight was cool too, it was super hard because the Loyce Knight AI was retarded, but I ended up getting 18 levels once I beat the boss. But once you beat the charred Loyce Knights, the actual Ivory King fight was fun, his move set cool. The setting was cool too, a nice contrast to the ice and snow from Frozen Eleum Loyce. It was my favourite zone in the game

>>154317328
>crying about ratbros being unfair
you mean like every real invasion?
the thing that truly killed it was the fact that you couldn't get summoned after killing the boss
>hating bellbros
bellfry luna was okay
bellfry sol was god tier
>le subros are bad meme
ds2 covenants had their flaws, but they were the least flawed in the franchise

>>154315865
>best iteration of park rangers
Do you mean the Watchdogs or Aldtitch Faithful? Either way I agree.

Or do I?
At least in DS1 the Forest Protectors stopped killing you for the duration you were in the covenant and it felt like a proper covenant with a sacred purpose (and so did DS1 Sunbros too).

In DS3 you watch over the Abyss Watchers but aren't even penalized for killing the Abyss Watchers in your world and the Old Wolf of Farron doesn't interact with you in any way,and neither does old McDonald's.

DaS2 had the shittiest version of the Forest Covenant because the area was too small, and it felt kinda stupid as a whole. If the bellbongers in DS2 invaded in the whole of Lost Bastille, it would be great, but as such, the bellbongers are just bad. The dwarf is pretty funny though.

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>>154317560
>Fume Sword fucking sucks
25 poise damage, 120 counter and best range in class combined with running thrust attack dissapointed you? A dex scaling dissapointed you?
Or do you mean FUGS, which was the best UGS in the game due to phantom blocking

Need moar signs.

>>154317648
>you mean like every real invasion?
Every real invasion doesn't have the host getting instantly stuck in a water slowing him down, ng+7 petrifying rats and mammoth guardians aggroing at him instantly and another player spamming lighting bolts from above which coupled with water aoes and inability to even dodge shit normally means you will be fucking dead in less than 5 seconds
So yes, it was incredibly, painfully unfair up to a point those areas became fucking extinct because nobody wanted to go through that shitshow.
>defending belltower level design
Holy fucking shit nigger, one of them is literally 3 empty platforms, another is a small open area you can easily cross before anyone spawns, they are utter goddamn garbage.
>ds2 covenants had their flaws
Sure, to a point of being the most flawed in the entire franchise.

>>154317762
>ds1 darkwraiths continue to attack you after you join them
>ds2 bellfags continue to attack you after you join them
>ds3 darkwraiths continue to attack you after yuria names you the lord of hollows, AKA dark lord
>ds3 deacons continue to attack you after you join their covenant
they did it right with the forestfags and ratfags, but fucked up everywhere else

>>154318051
maybe they are hollow

Forest Hunters > Aldritch Faithful > Watchdogs of Farron > shit > Bellfaggots > Rats

Is there a way to skip the animation of picking up an item? Like picking up an item while you can still walk, anything like that?

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gg, i am very rusty

>>154318386
CE: speed modifier I think

>>154318419
>the running attack into a running attack rollcatch
Dude that spear game is good

>>154317736
I'm sorry nobody thought you were funny in the filename thread.

>>154318051
Funny is how you can camouflage versus deacons but if you're truly on their side it doesn't have any effect.
Actually, 2 and 3 really made me sad in how little importance covenants had lore wise. You can kill Aldrich, Yorshka and NK, beat bell areas, freely talk to BoB/Sentinels leaders as the other member and at best you get some dialogue.
Outside of the mandatory Nito kill it was much better

>>154318505
Nah, mate, i am not good with spears. I have been using nonmeta weapons recently, but on this character, so i have only meta shit here. I have been sword and boarded at heart in ds3 most of the time playing it

>>154318012
>delusional DS3babby

>>154313959

nigga the lightning demons were already fanservice from Demon's Souls in Dark Souls 1. They have nothing to do with Anor Londo.

>>154318747
I still see no counter arguments so feel free to fuck off and never come back.

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do any pcbfs want to help me twink the dancer?

Just finally got FUGS, first time playing DaS3, it was my weaponfu from DaS2

What the fuck did they do

Where's the cool block R2's

Why does it weight twice my previous UGS yet only do like 50 more damage?

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how much damage you can dish out with a greataxe +4 on 30 STR?
kinda want to make a lmao3axe build for cathedral invasions

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>>154317560
>what do you guys define as good bosses?
I generally consider the fights as not only as fights,but their setup, the impact of the fight and how it feels as a whole. The fight with Penetrator for example isn't in itself so involving, but the setup of going through 1-3 sets up an awesome buildup for the boss. With Artorias, you've been hype pretty much for the entire game for that fight and heard the legends about the legendary Knight Artorias and finally meet the legend in flesh. Also note that both Penetrator and Artorias kill a random mob before the fight starts, to communicate their power.

Artorias is a good,clean fight on a very defined arena, he has clearly telegraphed moves, a second phase and he hits hard but he's still fair. He's very mobile in a game where a lot of the bosses aren't very mobile. Champ is the same, in that he exhibits the same signs as Artorias,his arena both looks cool and it's a no-bullshit straight fight. Champ and arty aren't terribly hard but punish for bad play and look cool. Fighting against both Arty and Champ makes me feel like an anime.

With Looking Glass Knight I like the buildup to his fight,his gimmick in a game with badly designed multi bosses and the visuals of the arena.

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>>154318904
I'll help

What SL

>>154319026
I have a +3 for road of sacrifices invasions in left hand, pic related

It gets about 350 AR ish at 32 STR one handed

It's based. I imagine +4 would sit closer to 400 AR

>>154319014
Because you never used it on release when it was broken as all fucking hell.

>>154319201
i'm 38 right now
password is dsg, put your sign on the stairs

>>154319014
Because they bought that ugly slab instead of IKUGS for faggots like you. Fuck you, we could've had a good looking UGS instead

>>154319263
Ok awesome, I'll use that build in pic related

>>154319220
It was still an UGS and not a proper weapon. That fact alone made it balnaced. Not in relation to other UGS weapons, but to the game as a whole

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What's the quickest way to get 500 dollars? I can't resist the urge anymore.

>>154319014

Because every weapon brought back from DaS2 lost everything unique about it save the Hollowslayer/Drakeblood Greatsword's 2HR1s.

>>154319014
Miyazaki only brought DaS2 content over so that he could butcher it and add passive-aggressive item descriptions insulting the people who made it. The FUGS is a warning to Tanimura to never touch his things again.

>>154319370
Become my boi-slave.

>>154319370
Prostitution. Put your boihole for sale on CL.

>>154319370
Suck 10 dicks.

>>154319370
You can probably sell your ass on craigslist
Just be sure to indicate that you're not a faggot and you hate niggers, and there'll be lines of queers wanting to "break you in"

>Game crashes as I'm summoned for the FC

Why is Lothric Castle such a bug-ridden shithole?

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Mate, you put the sign at the wrong place, you force me to potentially interfere with fights

>>154319370
Kill someone

>>154319370
if you're in college get some shitty part-time job
if you're a NEET get any fucking job
if you're employed save up by not buying shit you don't need for some time

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I killed all fucking bosses in all Souls games except Dark Lurker and in DaS2 and I skipped fucking DLCs because I hated the game and it sucked shit.

Still DaS2 is the hardest game in series.

Prove me wrong faggots.

>>154319336
>>154319263

You haven't picked me up yet, where are you? Which stairs?

>>154319932
Depends on your build

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>>154319201
400 AR in that level range coupled with left hand axe hyperarmor should be pretty fucking based, thanks anon

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>tfw want to participate in /dsg/ fc's but i'm shit at pvp

So we can all agree that O&S had the worst song in the series, right?

>>154314983
>>154314815
wait what? when was this?

>>154319932
DaS2 is indeed harder than the others, but for all the wrong reasons

>>154319973
The ones right outside the dancer's door, i haven't seen any signs yet

>>154320094
Do it anyway

>>154320094
give me kisses

>>154320215
About halfway through, they show the big Benhart antler guy swing his axe down. The player character backsteps and is safely out of reach when the axe strikes the ground, misses and triggers a hit anyways

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I fell for a fucking setup parry.

Wow, i am rusty. Also, 00:57 MSK makes my play very sloppy, need coffee and cold shower

>>154315410
Or design the world paths so that they cross in a number of places. Remove warp and you'll see the devs getting creative.
>inb4 From adds physical quick travel like simple transitional levels where you're driven in a carriage and can snipe at shit with a bow or disregard the transport and go through the level on foot

Also, add more types of upgrade materials so there would be more point in visiting different locations of the world to farm.

>>154320094
that doesn't stop 90% of participants
join us bby

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>Cloudy sky even though NK is dead
>Eclipse everywhere in the world except at high wall
>Only on this one character
What did they mean by this

>>154320094
i suck at pvp too, and i go to /dsg/ fcs all the time

have fun anon, it's a fucking video game

can you retards stop blogging your FCs

or get a trip so I can filter you

>>154320345
I wish I could join but south american connection tells me I shouldn't.

>>154320450
you forgot your jojo pic, faggot

>>154320094
Everyone at our FCs are shit at pvp
We make a point of chasing off all the good players because being good at dark souls 3 pvp is gay.

>>154319989
>Depends on your build

No pyro / magic whatsoever like I always played Souls. It was pain in the ass to even get to the boss holy shit and he was utterly annoying as well.

>>154320514
I have literally godlike internet now. So good i even managed to TRIGGER neptunusequester and make him cry salty meme tears
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5618668568

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Do you anons think the DLC bosses will have more than one weapon/spell/ring that can be transposed using their soul like the base game bosses?

I plan on playing the DLC on NG++ with my SL 120 characters (assuming that's still the 'meta' level and this game isn't dead) and I'd rather not go on to NG+++.

>>154320514
If your connection is not horrible and too unstable for SA standards then it's probably not that bad.

>>154320647
>links something
>not a clip of neptune crying
come the fuck on, I wanted to see this faggot upset

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>>154320235
>>154320254
>>154320381
>>154320437
>>154320535
Here i go

>make a million low level invaders to try try and invade ENB with
>connect with none of them
Oh well, at least I've got a bunch of toons to play now.

>>154320647
But he has Uzbekistan internet, even my Brazilian internet is better than his.

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>>154320314
of my fuck, it's true, that has clearly not connected

>>154320647
>cry salty meme tears
Did you get fanmail or something?
Post it if you got it, always fun seeing egotists cry over videogames.

>>154320415
Your char is so edgy that his edginess corrupted the game.

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>>154320526
CM has a different way of speaking, its not him

>>154320514
plenty of moon men at these fcs so you might aswell

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>>154320805

>toons

>being able to get summoned finally

Praise it. Also wow Quality you really did get better internet, that was the most lag-free fight against a Halberd I've had ever.

>>154320526
Not him, but you really don't need to comment everything going on at the FC on the thread

>>154320826
>yfw this axe is split magic damage and can't be buffed or infused and has a shitty weapon art where it's slow as fuck, locks you in place for backstab and has a shit version of that shockwave

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>Peeve finally on das3

compy

>>154320832
>>154320784
http://pastebin.com/ceQfCrHS

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Knight > Elite Knight > Fluted > Faraam
But :
Cold weather ranking :
Faraam > EK > Knight > Fluted.

Realism ranking :
Fluted > Nameless Knight > EK > Knight >>>Faraam.

>>154320743
Almost certainly, but I suspect that for the most part it will be the sort of thing where 1 item is a quality weapon and the other is a spell or ring or something. I think the Abyss Watcher and Demon are the only boss souls in DaS3 where both items made for the same essential build and they'll probably be even more diligent about that in the DLC. At least 1 DLC boss will probably have 3 things like NK did.

>>154321159
>Uzbekistani subhuman calling others "trash"
pfft

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>Remember I didn't even do Siegward's stuff on this character
>Play through it for the slab
>Find him in his cell
>The cell was already fucking opened because I went for the serpent ring earlier I guess
>YOU ARE A SAINT FOR TALKING TO ME IN THIS ALREADY UNLOCKED CELL

>>154321159
>Neptune being a bitch
News at 11

>>154321159

>[21:40] neptunusequester: trsah
>[21:40] neptunusequester: trash

Are these people really like this in conversation? Like I thought they'd treat this PvP like the joke it is but man this is weirdly serious anger beyond the memes.

>>154321530
Watch his streams for laughs

>>154321530
"Neptunusquester" is some youtube e-celeb wannabe that's gone on record unironically comparing dark souls 3 pvp to competitive street fighter. He's like the poster child of angry autists that take souls pvp way too seriously.

>>154319392
>passive-aggressive item descriptions insulting the people who made it
Such as?

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>>154321281
Would it be possible to back up a save that has the bosses' souls, transpose the first set of weapons/rings with those souls, give them to a friend, boot up the save, and do it again for the other set of weapons/rings without getting soft-banned?

>>154321667
>Shield of an ancient king who was cursed by an all-consuming thirst. In the end, he was no king.

>>154321469
The true attention to detail we love so much

>>154321802

tbf that's what Dark Souls 2 itself constantly said about Vendrick.

>>154321784
Yes.
but I have no friends

Grotto please
>get hit by charm while on the sidelines
>cast buff afterwards
>goes off after 3 seconds

>>154321802
I mean, that's kinda a description of what happened to Vendrick, unless you'd call a naked hollow that just walks around a proper king.

>>154321784
As far as I know, save backups won't trigger invalid data. In fact, the BAMCO community manager went on record suggesting that people who received invalid data could remove the message by loading a backup save made before they did whatever it was that triggered the message.

Savescumming is how people generate 699 siegbrau and blooming green blossoms to tryhard at pontiff's with.

Though I really do doubt that any one build will be able to make use of two weapons made from the same DLC boss soul.

>>154321530
Well, the whole discord chat quickly turned into a massive fuckfest a couple of days ago, It has been full with blatant shitposting ever since, it is the most cancer related to souls games i have ever seen in one place. You haven't seen how much Gaydong have been shitposting. Everyone there went full retard despite acting relatively normally previously
>>154320806
Yep, this is what produced such response
>>154321664
He actually understands how trash ds3 is, don't give him shit in that regard.

>>154321469
What happens if you do that with Logan's quest? Ignore him until Seath captures you, unlock his cell in the archive then save him from Sen's?

When is the PS4 FC?

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>>154321903
Neither do I, anon. Stay strong.

>>154322047
Hold on pal, we're the highest degree of souls cancer and no one is taking this shit away from us.

>>154321667
>>154321802
the only insulting thing I see in DaS2 references is the fact that the only remotely intelligent invader is a returning character from DaS2
and it's really an insult to memezaki, not tanimura

Faraam set? Moe like Haram set lmao