/edg/scg/ - Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous General #43

Embrace the V I S I O N

First for Vision

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Why doesn't ship transport just come with a cooldown timer?

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4th for yo way yo

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Best ship.

5th for dads are griefers

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Not the hero Grimhex wants, but the hero Grimhex might get.

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>>154153910
Reminder to vote for instant transfers to piss off Dads and stick it to the VISION.

https://www.elitedangerous.com/en/shiptransfer-vote/

>>154155328
>Instead of griefing in game they grief in the forums and ruin people's fun

The irony is palpable.

>>154155074
hmmm are you though?
see >>154155065

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>>154155235
>best
Ftfy
finally can go sleep

>>154155421
dads btfo
>>154155420
oh i have

>>154155457
forgot your spoiler mate

EDfags what ships have you collected so far?
Haulers, iEagle, Viper III, Courier, AspX, FAS, FdL, Python so far.

>>154156189
All of them.

>>154156189
I've flown every ship excpet cutter and corvette

since you guys are casuals now, why don't they just get rid of solo mode and add a "stop pvp engagement" button to the cockpit instead? immersion is lame anyway lmao

Anybody else hyped?

http://youtu.be/t1hBNALUk4w

>>154156259
You won the game. Did you uninstall?

>>154156265
Was there a time when the rank grind was faster, cause goddamn that shit looks like a joke.

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>>154156419
t. butthurt fuel rat faggot

I know it's you, dipshit. Go circlejerk with your rat dad butt buddies if posting here gets you so upset.

>>154155457
I can't wait for components system to nerf that sack of disappointment by exposing how undersized it is

>>154156497
I didn't uninstall but I stopped playing about 8 months ago or so.

>>154156419
>Instant trade
>Instant fuel
>Instant repair
>Instant refitting
>Immersion

lmao

>>154156596
wow if other players are triggering you that much maybe you should turn solo mode on :^)

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In the beginning, we were empty
Ignorant of all things
We did not know the VISION that abides in every place
And in every Time
Here is the VISION
It brings us joy
It awakens the soul
It dispels all doubts
In worlds, we perish
In the VISION, we survive

>>154156660
robots doing all that stuff instantly is more believable than teleporting a huge spaceship across a galaxy with no pilot

>>154156794
whats the original book

>>154156859
Elite: Nemorensis by Simon Sparrer

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>>154156819
>Robots have the capability to instantaneously load 800 tons of cargo
>Robots have the capability to instantaneously refit an air craft carrier sized ship with new armor
>This is believable

My sides

>>154156660
>Immersion
>Can't buy iron (and other shit) anywhere
>FSD can cross the galaxy in a day, humans still basically confined to a sphere a few hundred ly across
>Engineers are incompetent and can't perform the same mod twice

>>154156819
thats nice, tedium for the sake of tedium breaks immersion.

you got btfo

>>154156913
are any of the elite books actually good

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>>154156794
the vision must flow
the vision expands perception

>>154156859
>>>>>>>

>>154155085

Programming cooldown timers is hard, anon.
It's easier just to make it instant, or just make it take 1 minute per lightyear.

>wait cant they just make it take 10 minutes per 100 LY like a player piloting the ship would

>NO THE POLL SAYS 100 MINUTES

>>154156672
Funny, coming from the guy that hangs around combat loggers. Probably do it yourself.

>>154156918
programmed robot arms can do anything mate

>>154157003
how is teleporting a ship any less tedious? you still have to play the game (you hate)

>>154157068
Hahahaha. No.

Anyone got the excerpt?

>>154157146
So then programmed robot arms can teleport my ship across a galaxy with no pilot

Checkmate atheists.

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>>154155457
>basically a tier 2 starter
>best
nah dawg lemme fix that for you

>>154153910
I love the way the ref code generator linked in OP just gives the same code everytime. Someone's gonna make Captain.

>>154157068
Excluding the one prolapse book they were okay. Docking is Difficult, Reclamation and Wanted were decent. Compared to proper sci-fi books they're absolute rubbish but they killed a couple of hours.

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>>154157146
>>154157257
Damn, fucking obliterated.

>>154155457
Tigerstreik 420 yolo blaze it, smoke weed erry day.

>>154157294
>Every thread

Each time it is opened it displays one code for half a second before generating a new one. Unless you're offering to help fix it, which you probably aren't. I can at least confirm that it's been working because I've gotten one prospect myself

mixing fixed and gimbal guns in SC is so dumb and gay and pointless. discuss.

really gimbals on a fighter are just dumb in general

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>>154158469
>really gimbals on a fighter are just dumb in general

Had me right up until that.

>>154158469
>mixing fixed and gimbal guns in SC is so dumb and gay and pointless. discuss.
Yes.
>really gimbals on a fighter are just dumb in general
No.

>>154158469


SO HARDCORE NO GIMBALS

faggot

>>154152436
that sounds like some pretty extreme surgery happened anon.

>>154158671
>>154158728
what's the point when you can spin freely with no atmosphere at any time

the gimbal bullshit just adds weight. in a real spaceship the weight would be carefully minimized and the gun built right into the frame

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>>154157272
Some of us would like to actually see the galaxy, Anon.

>>154158852
mousenigger detected. Why not just play csgo instead

>>154155020
Their codebase doesn't have the foundation for any of that,
even if they wanted any of that it'd be impracticable to add.

also:
>basebuilding
>BUT MUH "vision"

>>154155614
It's free now if you pirate it, and even that's too expensive.

>>154158943
Not even pretty, and you can watch muted Lets Play for that.
Do it while you're alt tabbed out during travel.

>>154159026
Another great alt tab activity.

>>154158943
hopefully you can go prone on the dashboard

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>>154159105
You don't even need to alt-tab in the Freelancer for that.

>>154158917
>what's the point when you can spin freely with no atmosphere at any time
Well, if you're going to drag realism into this, putting the gun on a small motorized gimbal would make arming take a fraction of power that using the ship's thrusters to move the entire fucking ship around would use.

>>154158943
Man, I don't even care that the cockpit is like that, I still want a freelancer. I don't know why or what did it, but something about seeing it in the 3.0 demo made me really want one. I hope earning one with an Avenger won't take too long.

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>>154159274
Kek, made my day

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>154159274

>>154159416
if you're already in a dogfight that savings would be negligible and then you'd have a much smaller or more exposed gun

>>154159582
>exposure of weapons on a fighter-sized craft mattering with the amount of shields and maneuverability in the game

Hell, probably make yourself less of a target by spreading your ship as thin as possible.

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>>154157241
Sandro wanted to get rid of things slowing the game down.

You should realise your god and saviors right hand man is talking about shit in the game pecisk. Time for you to get the fuck out.

>>154160108
It was going to be part of the 2.2 update. Then some idiot leaked screenshots of the beta and caused the whole controversy of it being "instant".

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I love the wedge ships in Elite.

Cobra a cute, cute!

>>154158917
> in a real spaceship
This is bait.
((((YOU))))

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Is anyone planning to get a Buccaneer? What are your thoughts on it?

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Do you think they'll have parades/air shows?

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>>154160741
spaceships already exist though

>>154160843
Never
A
Straight
Answer

Did you know, procedural worlds in Star Citizen are actually flat.

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>>154160843
Lol no, otherwise we wouldn't be using air planes, duh.

>>154161020
air planes for air

spaceships for space

why fly a spaceship in the air

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>>154160978
Tell me more about things we know nothing about, sensei.

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>>154161160
Even with wings they apparently handle like bricks [1].

[1] http://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley/news/researchernews/unflyable.html

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>>154161160
Because why the hell not?

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>>154161160
air is in space

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>>154160760
I got on during the concept sale. People seem to expect it to go toe to toe with a Hornet, but I'm expecting it to be more of an intermediate between the Gladius and the Sabre. Fast, punchy, but coming up short against an equally skilled Sabre and still vulnerable if caught under the guns of a Hornet.

Also the majority of guns being stuck on those big flimsy wings is very worrying.

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>>154161505
>space shuttle
How do you fuck up that bad, seriously.

There had to have been a better way to get a reusable spacecraft.

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What the fastest you can supercruise at?

slow

>>154161160
cause it has both, it's called aerospace, dudester

What's the fall with the "transaction server" error message? My internet connection is somewhat unstable, is this related?

If so, can this be played offline?

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>>154161845
some guy a few threads back was traveling .22ly in supercruise. He hit something like 1,800c on the way

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>>154161774
Single-stage-to-orbit is hard IRL

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>>154160808
I'm still hoping for huge system wide races. Each checkpoint could be a jump gate that shoots you to another star system with different shit to race through

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>>154162047
>mfw

>>154161296
Friends forever, right?

>>154162359
It seemed appropriate for the combined thread

>>154161774
>Military wanted big wings so it return to different airbases in an emergency or after delivering payloads to heavily inclined orbits.
>Wanted a big payload bay to fit their secret satellites in.
The whole thing was a clusterfuck of scope creep.

>>154161845
2,001 c

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>>154135742
it was a mockup of planetside derelicts they did
people might live in them, they could be for salvage, you might have to pvp scavengers over the contents, who knows.

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>>154163243
and now they've all blown up... killing dozens of astronauts in the process.

>>154157272
why aren't the MIS, MAX and DUR flyable yet? what would be so hard about tossing them in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN_rsg5cgCw

What do anons here think of this? Are there games with anything similar out there?

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>>154157272
A misguided thought. Here, let me correct that.

>>154163927
After 2.0, They made a rule about not working on variants until all the pre2016 concept ships were flight ready.

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>>154164113
>replace stock scout ship with Terrapin
>ultimate exploration/reconnaissance platform

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Made 1.5mill in a HIGH RES. (One Hour)

Would I make more in a HAZ RES?

>>154164520
I keep thinking that cargo bay is walking away on it's own.

>>154164520
It won't fit, CIG will make sure of that.

>>154164525
I wouldn't if you're getting decent spawns in your current instance. Can you reliably take down escorted anacondas?

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>>154164060

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>>154163927
>MIS
Needs remodeling and animations for the hull to allow internal missile launcher magazine and there aren't automated missile reload mechanics in the game yet.
>MAX
Needs a whole new hull model.
>DUR
Needs new fuel tanks and sensor equipment made, but is otherwise similar to the base.

I doubt we'll see any of this until after Squadron 42 releases unless they surprise us with the MIS in some SQ42 missions.

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>>154164669
it does have a bit of a sad face on the side.

>>154164782
Nope. Not without going through the engineer grind before hand.

If I couldn't do it in my A rated Python, I doubt the FDL would be that diffrent.

>>154164875
One would hope they have to make a new, more open cockpit for the MIS and DUR as well.

>>154164906
Yeah. It's reminding me of some kind of box shaped robot from star wars but I can't remember what it was.

>>154164875
pretty sure MAX is already in hangar though, as is DUR

>>154164347
makes sense.
>Caterpillar confirmed for being flight ready before freelancer variants
IT'S ALMOST REAL(kind of)

>>154165043
Gonk power droid?

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>>154165171
THANK YOU. This was bothering me for a bit.

>>154163916
There's still 3 (4 if your count Enterprise) left. They just retired them before the rest could explode.

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>>154165151
The MAX, DUR, and MIS were made "Hanger ready" years ago back when the Freelancer was using the smaller shitty CGBot-made model, but those never were made flight ready. We haven't seen any revisions of the variants yet since the Freelancer was redone.

>>154165621
I can't wait to see the new Max.

>>154165621
I'm looking forward to what they're going to do with the MAX a lot more than the MIS, since it carries double what the base does and has more powerful engines. Though the DUR might get some fancier interior work than the other variants. I'm a sucker for militarized variants of things, though, so I've ended up with a MIS. Once they get the Caterpillar, then rework the bases of the Cutlass and 300i, we should be in for a treat with the Freelancers.

>>154165621
T H I C C

>>154166061
They still have the Hulls and the vanduul ships to pump out.

>want to play game
>keep getting sent to main menu from transaction server errors

>>154166502
Had this issue once. Try going to the hangar and then using the elevator to get into Olisar. Sometimes it works.

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I want to get a poster printed but I can't find a good high res picture to use. I have seen plenty of posters in ATV but finding them is proving to be difficult.

Anyone know where to get A2 (16.5 x 23.4 in) sized images of say a Freelancer or M50 at >220dpi? (5000px x 7000px)

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>>154162047
I juat hope they don't halfass the races. There is a bunch of types they could implement.

>>154166467
Didn't they say the Hulls would be next? I hope they start with the D due to the UEE using them... And because I have one.

The Vanduul ships look mostly done on the exteriors, since they're necessary for Squadron 42, so they're probably going to be good to go.

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I just bought the game.

Glad I didn't kickstarter it, but I'm enjoying it a ton, it's relaxing exploring and cataloguing the systems you find.

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>>154156819

No it isn't you dickhead.

You need to realize, that ED doesn't have the infrastructure and assets (see EVE) to solve the problem in a 'believable' way.

Until it does, the 'magical' transfer option is the best solution available.

All the bitching dads who want muh immersion need to fuck off and realise this too. Then just generally fuck off for good.

>>154160108
>variants
I'm eagerly awaiting for news reports of asspained dads arrested after trying to break into Braben's residence because they felt he was being abusive to the vision.

>>154167993
MOOOOT
How the fuck did I greentext variants?

Who here space hobo when SC comes out?

Drifting from place to place, city to city, planet to planet, ship to ship doing jobs here and there with no ship or home of your own.

>>154158943
>He doesn't play 21:9
Freelancer was literally made for ultrawide.

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>>154163243

This, plus IIRC they never even performed those kinds of maneuvers which made the huge wings necessary to begin with.

But at least they got some good use out of the shuttles, could be worse, could be the buran.

>>154168086
Cross quoting, it happens sometimes when you post something at the same time as someone else on the site.

>>154163243
Pentagon Wars. They come out with some cool tech sometimes, but it seems to be more luck than skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA

>>154168569

That video is utter garbage

t. /k/ pro

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>>154167903
Yeah I bought it 3 weeks ago myself, and i don't regret it since I went into it expecting a grindy space trucking simulator with a side of stellar body explorer with occasional dogfighting.

Worth 20 bucks desu, I feel bad for the people that backed the kickstarter and expected something more from it.

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>>154168784

I'm actually excited for the features they tease at for updates too.

Only real gripe I have is that the ship skins are so expensive, all the customisation options are. Got disappointed when I saw I had to buy everythign with real dosh.

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>>154169019
>mfw I realized I could put decals of my Combat/Trading/Exploration rank on my ship

I played for 60 hours and never saw that shit because I thought all cosmetics were bought.

>>154168784
Wish they'd at least had everything that was in the old games in by now and then started to build from there instead of selling the features as DLC.

But yeah picked it up for 15 or so a year or two ago.

>>154168196
>over 1,000 mile cross-range recovery range to meet the requirement for classified USAF missions for a once-around abort from a launch to a polar orbit
Yeah, they never did that. Although the wings allowed for gentler landings than shit like Soyuz capsules provided, I think they used that to return some delicate stuff to Earth once.

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>players settle on some desert world
>make little community
>mfw me and some others form a gang with ursas and dragonflys and raid the town before fucking off to the desert all day every day

Planetside adventures will be rad.

>>154169019
I bought a few skins for some ships back when I was super enthusiastic. FDev also gave people a gold Asp skin for some fuck-up which I don't remember. So that's nice to look at every now and then.

>>154170232
They could at least allow players to make their own skins. Not even WT is this bad with customisation jewery.

Not that the skins do much though.

>>154170383
>They could at least allow players to make their own skins.
But they did, and then took them and sold them.

>>154168784
If only the actual game looked that good.

>>154170195
>tusken raiders terrorize your village
>complain on the forum to have tusken griefers banned

>>154170678
How nice.

Is there anything better for doing this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA2J6QnymQk

>>154171909
The screenshot thing?

Ctrl+Alt+Space for the debug cam.

>>154171167

That sort of thing would be pretty great in the PU. Raiders giving your little trading post shit? Guess you'd better hire some other players who are mercs to go roust them.

Now if you're a spaceman who wants to do a security role you get a job from actual players instead of some generic "go kill X pirates at Y coordinants" from a job board or whatever.

Only Frontier would introduce a quality of life feature and then add a wait timer to it. Save me Chris, SAVE MEEE

>>154173128
Michael said Sandro wanted the timer but got overridden. Looks like Sandro might get his way in the end.

>>154173128
It didn't have a timer in the beta, it's feature complete and fully tested. Some idiot leaked screenshots to reddit and someone noticed that ship transfer didn't mention time. Cue shitstorm.

To add a timer they'll have to re-code it and send it back to QA. The damn forums might cause the update to be delayed over this.

>>154161745
This whole post shows how little you understand SC's ship balance and the combat.

Any fighter can take on any other fighter, let alone more expensive, heavily gunned ones like the Buccaneer and the Hornet.

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It's a pretty game at least

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>>154170678
fuel rats made a custom "rescue" skin based on coast guard paint scheme for ships, fdev used it for the rescue ships in uss. No you can't buy them.

Dear Frontier, thanks.

Hey guys, I just want to say: Thank you for being a developer that listens.
I know we, the players give you guys a lot of grief. But your interaction with the community and responsiveness to community concerns clearly demonstrate that you hear us, and you are trying hard to make Elite the best game it can be. It's clear that you guys love this universe/game as much as we do, and little changes like the way your destinations don't keep gliding past anymore once you trigger your supercruise exit just show that it matters to you too.

Thank you.

>>154167981
yes it is you fucking casual, what is suspension of disbelief?

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>>154174057
I like how long tire tracks last, allows me to know where I've been. I kinda enjoy exploring planets in the rover, though I know I'll run out of new content to find soon.

>>154173978
That is exactly what the developer post says.
>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/286967-IMPORTANT-OFFICIAL-SHIP-TRANSFER-POLL
>*Unless there is a significant, majority vote against ship transfer delivery times, along with a high turnout*, we will likely be moving towards implementing plausible delays into ship and module transfer, though such a change may affect when the features comes online.
This will happen because forum dads immersion and the update is going to be pushed back even further.

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>>154174057
It has it's moments.

I have almost three weeks of game time put in. (Counting what it shows me in my statistics, not what steam tells me.)

I think I'm always going to have a love-hate relationship with this game.

>Fun

Combat, community goals, ship customization, dreaming of features to come.

>Not fun

The fact that I can only jump 13LY in my FDL, Travel as a whole, Sacrificing fun for immersion.

>Really not fun
Supercruise for more than ten minutes, PvP, grinding reputation, putting up with Dads.

>HOLY SHIT JUST END ME levels of fun
Engineer's material and rep grind.

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>>154155420
>please let give me an instant gratification button to basically cheat with
>please give me storage so that I don't have to pick and choose what I carry ever
>please remove module sellback cost so I can minmax with no consequences
>please nerf npc AI
>please remove any challenge or barrier in the game

no john, you are the dad

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>>154174329

You are remarkably selective in your application of the concept...

Here's your (you) anyway

>>154174367

I oddly don't mind it either, grinding rare mats is pretty shit but driving the SRV around is sorta cozy enough to make up for it. At least for now.

>>154173102
>dads could be paying and collecting bounties on SDC RIGHT NOW but they're against the idea because chinese boogeymen

>>154174520
no you just are incapable of it so you don't understand what it is

>>154174502

(you)

>>154174469
>community goals
>fun

it's the same as any other mission except with a ridiculous gamebreaking payout?

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>>154174236
We were supposed to get them for every ship.

>>154164520

Are you the asshole trolling GC on RSI with that thread talking about squeezing the Terrapin in the rover bay (and getting all those replies)?

If so, keep it up, Ill join ya

>>154174528
No, they can't because they'd never be able to find them because lol p2p instancing

>>154174674
The payout is what makes it fun for me

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>>154174528
We’re also planning ship-to-ship docking where you will be able to exchange goods.
- Progress Diary #2, 6:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjVuZ2DDpS8#t=6m45s

>>154174794
brain problems

>>154174683
>woodland camo in space

>>154174970

>camo in space

>>154175030
black and chrome both work pretty well in the game right now

>>154174057
The planetary play could be amazing if they made exploration like take on mars.
>Land
>Get out in your rover
>Take little material samples
>Carry out scientific studies
>Get actually paid a sizable amount for detailed surface studies to make the time expended worthwhile.

>>154175074
There's a chrome paint job? I saw gold but not chrome.

>>154175102

>Get actually paid a sizable amount for detailed surface studies to make the time expended worthwhile.

Not a bad idea

>>154174970
>brain problems

Nah. I'm just ok with running through a skinner box every now and then.

>>154175102
nope, all you get are stupid synthesis materials

actually it would be nice if you would discover planets with triangulation and spectroscopy and such, add a little bit of science and effort to it, not just jump and toot

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>>154175130
for certain ships, gold might work better near reddish stars

https://www.frontierstore.net/eur/game-extras/chrome-vulture.html

>>154175348
Damn. Hoped it was for the corvette. I do like how gold paint causes the bottom half of a landed ship to reflect the surface and the top half to reflect blackness of space. It's a neat effect. But not 10$ neat.

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>>154175553
an A-rated gold anaconda is the only way to enter the vision

>>154175630
That skull emblem thing, backer only?

>>154175745
I think so. I have both a skull and ringed planet decal. I assume both are for backing.

>>154175835
What's the planet decal? I don't think I've ever seen that one.

I've always wanted fed/alliance/emp decals and a sort of military career questline for each faction. But that won't be a thing.

Heck if they directly ported the first encounters or whatever missions I'd be happy.

>>154175965
can't be assed to take a screenshot now, but it's a circle with a ring around it basically, similar to the frontier logo

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>>154174236
But you can buy other ones.

>>154174970
>woodland camo in space
Just wait till we have planetary landing on ELWs and I hide my 'conda in a forest. You'll never find it.

>>154175102
I'm sure their fancy stellar forge must use some kind of biome system to generate the planets. You could have different samples from impact sites, around the new volcanic vents, polar regions, any of the funny coloured areas that turn up some times.

>>154176369
But it's the size of an aircraft carrier and it has a fusion reactor you can't turn off.

>>154176446
>biome system

Have you played Horizons?

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>>154175249
>Remove ADS
>Force players to rely on visual parallax during SC to locate shit.
>Massively up payouts
Of course we can't take back the easy mode ADS at this late stage.

>>154174469

FDL is a heavily armed CEO yacht, it makes perfect sense to hace shit jump range

>supercruise for ten minutes

never happens to me but I just dont go places that are 100kls+

>>154174970
Haha. That's why it works. The enemy isn't looking for trees. :^)

>>154176458
My plan is flawless. No one will spot it.

>>154176478
Yes. I just mean it must divide the planet up into sections somehow. Biome is of course the wrong word cause that implies life.

>>154176521
I do that just because it's fun, honestly the idea that you can make exploration a core money making activity is a bit silly in the first place

unless it's like braben suggested in the early dev diaries that discovering something like a valuable asteroid resource or potentially habitable planet would be something nearby factions would be very interested in and pay big bucks for

>>154176638
I think I remember that some ship had a electronic camo system in previous games. The asp? I was reading the elite+, elite frontier manuals last year.

>Galactic Navy vessel designed and manufactured in government workshops, incorporating secret self-destruct devices which are primed to activate when the astrogation controls are used by unfamiliar hands. Integument has chameleon properties enabling the ship to assume effective camouflage in any type of environment. Intended for reconnaissance and the transport of high-ranking military personnel from combat it is very fast and maneuverable. Despite its hazardous nature it makes an ideal pirate vessel, primarily because of the speed, camouflage and high intensity Hassoni-Kruger Burst-lasers. The Asp II has room for powerful shield generators, but only one missile port.
Aw. Was hoping for some fancy electronic skin camo.

Fucking christ reading RSI forums is literal self inflicted brain cancer.
There are people who legitimately want auto-aim for gimbals so their dual-stick setups arent "useless" versus m+k.

REEEEEE

>>154177075
>make primary control method for the game useless
>not bad

the gimbal weapons in FL were a mouse casualization scheme in the first place, just get rid of it entirely

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>>154177075
There are stick users out there that don't have trackballs modded onto their sticks for the gimbals?

>>154177404
Well, quite.
If you've gone to the trouble of "muh immershun" with "muh 2 sticks" - then, go the whole hog and get yourself trackIR or trackballs on your sticks. Don't whine about wanting auto-aim or aim-assist, or removing gimbals entirely, or removing mice+keyboards.
Fuck these people honestly.
I really hope Chris stays strong, and never gives in to RSI forum dweller shitters.

>>154177205
I don't understand why gimbals even exist in the first place. Plenty of space games have had excellent mouse controls even before Freelancer.
They should only really be necessary when the guns are mounted way out on the edge of the ship to avoid lolconvergance issues.

>>154177591
yeah you can do mouse control fine, the gimbals in FL were just to make the game more point-and-shoot and accessible, rather than having to line up your gunsights which can be difficult

>>154177075
Gimbals are fucking cancerous, though.

>>154177591
Options, is why.
Nose gunning is fun.
Gimbal gunning is fun.

Flying is different with both, and fun with both.

Gimbals in Star Citizen decrease the damage potential of your weapons as a balancing measure. If you're good with a stick you're still going to get a lot more control and precision, and so much more damage that the guys with gimbals don't fucking matter.

>>154177793
It gives you options only if you're a M&KB user, and the """option""" is to use a far better gun control method or not.

For sticks or anything else its just a matter of facing pilots who can operate their guns in a way you can't.

>>154177880
Yeah and the flip side is, your fixed guns are significantly larger, and you're probably in a sabre versus an avenger.

>>154177879
elite has the same balancing system and it doesn't work, if you're able to shoot off center you can land many more hits while maneuvering to stay on their tail than the extra damage from fixed guns makes up for

>>154177879
Utterly, utterly wrong.

>>154177940
Elite's general control scheme is goddamn atrocious, though, and over emphasizes the feeling of piloting a goddamn fishing trawler rather than a starship. The response time of Star Citizen controls and maneuverability of starships seriously does balance things.

>>154178053
elites control scheme is good, flight model is different from control scheme you idiot

but the flight model is good also as it allows actual fun dogfighting rather than jousting all the time shooting at dots

>>154177940
Oh, and I forgot, it's also auto-targeting with Elite, which Chris Roberts is absolutely against adding to Star Citizen, from what I've heard. So you've got to actually aim and fly simultaneously, which puts extra strain on the pilot.

>>154178120
>he jousts

hi shitter

>>154178126
aiming and flying at the same time isn't hard, moving a mouse cursor with a joystick is

>>154177075
does anyone ever point out to these shitters that E:D does all the things they want, and it's boring and shallow because of it? automated gimbals, solo mode, probably lots of other retarded shit I would never have believed like the devs reverting bad things that happened to people after they cried about it on the forums, etc

>>154178210
...and strafing with a keyboard makes analog positioning hard.

>>154178339
No it doesn't.

>>154178339
not really, keyboard is actually better suited for spaceship controls than anything else since you get full control of all axes of motion, where a hotas only really allows forward/backward motion

>>154178325
I think anyone with any sense, stays the hell away from the RSI forums, dev's included. I HOPE

>>154178325

I'm cool with ED combat

enjoy your space ww2

>>154178325
ED is not shallow because of any of those things, those are the things that make it fun, it's the grind that's the problem

>>154178381
>>154178401
Ok, not "hard"- but a keyboard user has far less precision control over their strafe, roll, throttle than a stick user.

>>154178210
You shouldn't be moving the mouse with a joystick in your hand anyway, you should be using fixed weapons due to the humongous damage boost. The precision controls of the stick over the mouse and keyboard make it essential to your survival. You will get the worst of both worlds with joysticks and gimbals, guaranteed. Star Citizen has emphasized the balance between different control methods, which means gimbals are here to stay. If you've played the game recently, you'll see they're actually doing a pretty fucking stellar job of making sure there are benefits and drawbacks to each control method... Except gamepads, those suck.

>>154178408
Devs pop in occasionally to threads with decent questions, so it's worth it to stay on the Devtracker page of the main site, but they interface with the forum as little as possible.

>>154178435
>enjoy your space ww2

But thats exactly what E:D is. Space ww2 fighters, but more casual so you don't need any gunnery skill.

>>154178470
That precision isn't necessary, and you can certainly get just as good with proper keyboard use. Unlike trying to control gimbals with a stick, which is borderline impossible.

>>154178401
Also hotas is plain stupid in SC, just saying.
hosas, hosam, hokam. hotas has no place in a space ship for 6dof.

>>154178325
>automated gimbals
ED's gimbals are inaccurate anyway, and your opponent can turn them off with chaff.

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>>154178470
which is an issue only for fine maneuvering like landing, not combat where you just need to turn and evade as fast as possible

actually for stick users, getting trackIR and binding that to the gimbal might work, kinda like the real world HMD aim in the F35

>>154178538
Depends if you've got a really shitty bargin bin HOTAS or not.

>>154178583
>actually for stick users, getting trackIR and binding that to the gimbal might work

It doesn't.

Its absolutely terrible, and I've tried to practice with it numerous times.

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>>154178538
well you call me when they start selling THC peripherals

>>154178530

>be in ww2
>fly il-2
>oh no an agile german fighter on my tail
>I'll just turn FA off, flip 180 degrees while still going the same direction as before and blast him out of the sky

yeah that sounds exactly like ww2 if you're a fucking retard

>>154178667
>try to yaw
>shit, all this atmospheric resistance in space!

>try to turn
>shit, I need to slow down for this, I'm going too fast, all this air resistance is making my manouvering thrusters less effective
>but not too slow, because then I'll go even slower for some reason

FA off is okay, but they're still planes in space for all it matters.

>>154178753
you're a bona fide rere

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>>154178583
Six degrees of movement will absolutely save your ass in Star Citizen combat. Juking and weaving side to side, up and down, rolling and zipping around in all the other directions you can come up with fucks up the average space pilot. If you try to fly like you're in atmosphere you'll end up with the aforementioned jousting matches. Using all degrees of motion is the easiest and best way to fuck up a jouster.

>>154178530
>That precision isn't necessary
Sure, not necessary, but it is beneficial, gives more evasive options, gives better positional control.
Gimbals aren't necessary either, nor are they explicitly beneficial, superior aim, smaller size weapons (lower per shot and sustained dps).

>>154178824
>reading comprehension

back to RSI dad

>>154178802
>Can't refute it, better use nigger english to call him a retard

Come on now.

>>154178828
Nah, not beneficial at all. Certainly not noticable.

>Gimbals aren't necessary

Neither is buying weapons in CS:GO but most people do it, you know. By the way, while you might have a lower DPS against a static target, hitting specific sections of a ship, and more easily hitting at all, means that damage difference doesn't do squat. Can snipe the shit out of people with gimbals and do way more damage than a larger gun.

>>154178583
Effective evasion is unpredictability. Digital keyboard strafe [more predictable] versus anlog stick strafe [less predictable].

>>154178953
Thanks to how responsive thrusters are in this game, thats a load of shit.

Can be "unpredictable" and have the same control over thrusters regardless of your control scheme, to the point where the difference is negligible. Certainly doesn't balance out M&KB's utterly superior control of a massively better gun control method.

>>154178753
>try to turn
>shit, I need to slow down for this, I'm going too fast, all this air resistance is making my manouvering thrusters less effective
>but not too slow, because then I'll go even slower for some reason
Main engines are vectored thrusters, you can see them gimbal when a ship is turning. If you're "going too fast", they're pointing along the ship's center of mass. If you're "going too slow" the main thrusters aren't firing enough to affect the ship, the blue line denotes where the thusters can gimbal at maximum thrust for maximum turn. Other than that the ship has RCS to maneuver but they're obviously not as strong as the main engine.

You might want to try playing a game like Kerbal Space program to get used to the idea of inertia, thrust and center of mass as it applies to rockets.

>>154178549
chaff kinda balances it out in ED, you can't chaff manual aim

>>154179082
Or maybe a game where the ships aren't designed to fly like jets in space.

>>154178753
ED: Look like bricks, fly like planes in space.
SC: Look like planes, fly like bricks in atmosphere.
How did this happen?

Where the fuck is polonium

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>>154179114
aka not fun in any way

>>154178953
effective evasion is getting out of the gunsights and behind the enemy, this is done using predictable rote maneuvers, weaving and bobbing will get you killed because you don't have a goal

>>154179164
>SC: Look like planes, fly like bricks in atmosphere.

No idea where you're getting that from

>>154179212
>aka not fun in any way

You're right, E:D is known for being fun. Right on, commander o7

>>154179030
Pilot your way through asteroids with keyboard.
Pilot your way through asteroids with stick.
Tell me which is easier.

No really.

Holding a stick in a static position so that your flight path cleanly navigates through.

Or repeatedly micromanaging your a,d,space,ctrl keys in small increments / long holds yo juggle your flight path into the best route you can.

Which one requires more of your attention whilst doing it, thus detracting from other things.

>>154179217
Someone checked, they wouldn't be able to fly. Well Hornets and Avengers anyway.

>>154178649

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZdKt1BjutI

looks reasonably effective to me

>>154179285
>Caring about how a video game ship would fly in real life

??????

>>154179269
They're both simple.

If I add trying to get a firing solution into the mix, then M&KB becomes a cakewalk in comparison. Unless you weren't planning on firing your guns, ever

>>154179269

Neither one requires much conscious thought at all once you practice enough. Stop being disingenuous

>>154179268
yeah ED is known for having a great flight model trapped in a boring universe

now piss off

>>154179418
>yeah ED is known for having a great flight model trapped in a boring universe

kek

Its "known" for being jet fighters in space, in a boring universe.

>>154179439
ok dad

>>154179341
Why would anyone ever use sticks?

>>154179535
Learn terms before you use them, idiot.

>>154179553
no, you're not my dad

>>154179553
To be fair you were over forum dadding there for a moment.

>>154179625
>calling the universe boring
>complaining about yaw being bad

>being a forum dad

No, you fucking cretin. The literal opposite.

>>154179285
>Someone checked, they wouldn't be able to fly. Well Hornets and Avengers anyway.
Translation:
>Some retard did a bunch of autistic theorycrafting that means nothing, and I as a fellow retard internalized it as fact

>>154179686
ok dad

>>154179739
Well they ran the model through a program for analysing airflow. Hornet is a triumph of thrust over aerodynamics.

It was just an interesting experiment.

>>154179686
No, you were "not muh space ships" and "planes in spaaaaaaaaaaaace" when someone pointed out inertia and how the thrusters work. You could have salvaged it by focusing on the background simulation or supercruise or how jumps are dull or how players don't affect the setting, but you couldn't let go of the thing you objectively got wrong. You went full dadcancer. Don't do that.

>>154179861
hornet is a spaceship

>>154179192
>terrapin
>size 5 gun, size 3 gun, and size 2 gun
I have never looked at the stats but I know that's not right, what is this retard talking about

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>>154179872
Yeah see, I find that lots of dads think the E:D flight model is bad and needs changing.

Oh wait lmao, thats the polar opposite of what they think!

Who the fuck was the cunt that posted /edg/ content on fucking reddit.

>>154179887
The Terrapin has a size five turret that mounts two size two guns. I think you can remove the scanning equipment and put a turret there, too, maybe? But the ship isn't even remotely fucking done yet. Still, how that would add a size three and a size two gun? I have no fucking clue.

>>154179881
With wings that do nothing. Fidelity.

>>154179881
Which has wings that provide no lift and has a huge amount of drag directly above the center of mass. It would fly only because it's got a thruster that would provide enough thrust to counter act gravity.

>>154179995
>I think you can remove the scanning equipment and put a turret there, too, maybe?

Was in the Q&A, you can't

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>>154179861
>Hornet is a triumph of thrust over aerodynamics
This is the same spirit that powered most jet aircraft from the lates 50s/60s anyways honestly.

Cold war aircraft were the best aircraft, especially around the time period where people though it was going to go hot any moment.

>>154179951
Shouldn't you be picking up your wife's son right about now?

>>154180075
Then that guy is totally full of shit. I need to reread that Q&A, but as I said at the time: they don't have the best track record, look at the "not a super-Starfarer": the Gemini. Came out, was a green painted Starfarer with better components and weapons.

>>154180194
Damn, I guess memes really do beat logic.

>>154180131
>liking an aircraft that had around half of its airframes lost to crashes

>>154180015

Those're radiators moron.

>>154180047

So it can fly.

>>154180267
Only because the dumb Luftwaffe kept crashing it

>>154180303
Canada lost more than 40%. The US lost hundreds.

>>154180270
>So it can fly.
So can a bulldozer if you put a big enough rocket under it.

>>154180131
Man that plane had some bad nicknames. Tent peg, manned missile, widowmaker.

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>>154179951
they do actually, they want 100% unplayable realism like in frontier and FFE

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>>154180325
Those pilots just weren't cool enough to fly it

>>154180358

>>154179285
>Hornets and Avengers wouldn't fly
>except they could

>>154180270
>>154180358
that's like the argument about how the bumble bee can't fly because the wingspan is too small to provide enough lift to glide.
Well gee willikers it doesn't fucking glide, it punches the air so hard it rides on mini tornadoes!

>>154180270
>Those're radiators moron.
That actually makes some sense. Thank you. Obviously since it's not glowing it couldn't get rid of much heat, but it's as good a reason as any to justify wings in space.

>>154180531
desu if shit like the f104 and electric lightning could be made to fly with 50s tech then everything in star citizen should have a problem with it's wibbly wobbly space future tech

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>>154180657
aren't they weapon stations like the "wings" on an apache?

>>154180531
Thrust is not the only problem. Both aircraft would be really unstable. And not in a F22 style good way.

>>154180657
I always like the kind of wings that generate warp fields.
Wings are just cool in general.

>>154180710
don't these create the warp field as well?

>>154180729
Spoiler alert: So are all of our modern fighter jets.

>>154179082
You're fucking retarded. The only reason a gimbaled thruster couldn't turn all the way over at max throttle is because they arbitrarily decided they wouldn't, and the only reason the gimbaled thruster is relied on to yaw is because they designed it that way and intentionally didn't add maneuvering thrusters to assist in yawing. Just because they have thrusters on the ship acting physically correct doesn't mean they didn't intentionally design that thruster configuration to fit the way that they want the ships to maneuver. In summary, you're fucking stupid and you should stop trying to talk with Braben's smelly british cock in your mouth.

>>154180764

This

Modern fighters would not be able to fly without computers to help keep them stable

>>154180729
f16 was the first dynamically unstable fly by wire fighter

>>154180764
>>154180809

No, idiots. They'll want to pull in a direction like pitch. But they won't flip out into an unrecoverable flat spin at the drop of a hat. Which is probably what a Hornet would do.

>>154180783
not arbitrarily, if you're going fast it takes more thrust to change your direction, so you turn slower even at full thrust

>>154180851
>But they won't flip out into an unrecoverable flat spin at the drop of a hat
They literally would, dude.

>>154180783
>arbitrarily decided they wouldn't
inertia isn't arbitrary. please get your GED, there's still time to take a physics 101 course.

>tfw every time you see ED you think it's EDI from Mass Effect

>>154180851

Yes, they absolutely can and will and do.

Do you know what the flight protocol is for a flat spin in an F/A-18 hornet is? Let go of the controls and let the computer figure it out, if you have enough altitude. Otherwise you're fucked and need to eject.

>>154180964
but she's dead, anon

>>154180871
>>154180949
You guys are dumb as fucking rocks. THE GIMBALED THRUSTER CAN TURN AS FAR AS IT WANTS, EXCEPT FRONTIER SAID "NO, UH-UH"

We are not talking velocity vectors, we're talking about simple ship orientation and you can't even grasp the topic of conversation.

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Can't tell if I'm in /scg/ or /simg/ with half the talk going on right now

>>154181074
You're in /hell/

>>154180851
Actually the Avenger looks to be stable if it flies backwards. So it would probably just flip arse backwards.

>>154181015
the flight computer obviously keeps you pointed in the direction you are going to make it easier

>>154180971
>Let go of the controls and let the computer figure it out

kek, no.

>>154181168
so how is it really, Mr.Jet-Pilot.

>>154181140
It's a lot more severe than just "keeps you pointed in the direction you are going"

ASPX worth it for bounty hunting/hauling?

>>154181235
I don't fly F/A-18s but from what I can gleam it looks similar.

The FCS just goes into a recovery mode that changes how the controls function, if you want a very simplified version of what happens.

>>154181439

What do you fly

>inb4 cessna

>>154181439
>The FCS just goes into a recovery mode that changes how the controls function
so basically, you let the computer figure it out while you yell at it to not kill you. gotcha.

>>154181468
A fast jet.

I worry about being on 4chan enough as it is without giving any information. My country's air force is small enough for it not to be entirely anonymous.

>>154181480
..no

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>>154181561

>>154181561
>..no
hey man, I'm just fucking with you, I kinda feel bad now.

>>154181612
Hey man, can be skeptical all you like, I would be too.

Doesn't matter to me, and honestly its off-topic anyway

>>154180390
Combat is annoying in Frontier because when ships intercept you you're moving at thousands of klicks per second and can't change direction. If you got interdicted and pulled to a dead stop it'd be fine.

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>>154181561

You're afraid because you fly in an airforce of a small country that has a unique enough jet that someone could narrow you down to a list of countries?

yeah nah get fucked m8

>>154181726
It wouldn't be a list of countries, It would be one country, and of that country, only a handful of its pilots.

>>154181726
this

even if he's part of some tiny ass fucking indonesian air force with two planes, they're still going to be some surplus soviet/nato shits.

>>154181774
What the fuck do you fly, a fucking x-wing? No air force has a jet that unique bud.

>>154181387
light bounty hunting/excellent medium hauler. It's the most multirole ship in the game, perfect if you can't decide what to do. Python is better in every way except of jump range, but the AspX and Anaconda are the two best jump ships in the game and the Python also costs something like 10-20 times more than an AspX.

It's a medium ship which will allow you to finish more kinds of hauling missions and it's range means you can do long range missions.

Above it, clipper or the fed dropship/assault/gunship are large pad ships which lock you out of the small spaceports.

Vulture then Fer De Lance are purpose built fighters which make great bounty hunters but make terrible freighters due to their low internal space and short jump range.

https://coriolis.io/ Try building a ship and seeing if it's the kind of thing you'll like. Asp's long range is addictive so you'll hate leaving it once you've flown it.

>>154181846
Y-wing, actually

>X-wing

Poser.

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>>154181774

So your small airforce has somehow managed to pay for an entirely unique jet?

ok bro

>>154181914
>unique

There are plenty of jets that are only in service with one AF now, despite not being unique for their entire lifetimes.

>>154181914
Bolivian air force? I think their only jet is a chinese trainer plane export variant.

>>154181874

enjoy the farting sounds aspx makes

>>154182002

Small airforces do not buy unique aircraft

It is always, always more economical for them to buy successful aircraft which have had large production runs.

>>154182105
>reading comprehension