/edg/scg/ - Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous General #44

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Cutlass!

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First for bestship

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/286967-IMPORTANT-OFFICIAL-SHIP-TRANSFER-POLL
REMINDER TO VOTE IN THIS POLL AGAINST THE FORUM DADS
DONT LET THEM WIN

>>154213397
thanks OP, I was actually searching google for something ED related, but you beat me to the punch.

>Sean Tracy has to say "Nu Naked Male" like 20 times
>instantly cuts to Sandi
>"They're always up to such interesting things!"

>>154197820
>guys, great idea. what if we fucking waste the top 20% of screen real estate putting the game's logo in the top right corner, with a little ™ beside it in case people forget what game they're playing. Then, we can squeeze the actual menu options into roughly 55% of the screen area, making it way to small to read, and then add a little fucking magnifying glass to the cursor so they have to skim each part of the control mappings bit by bit, never getting a full idea of them all at once?
Interesting, but the logo will only take up one corner. what should we fill the rest of that top bar with.
>well here's the best part Chris, what we put in that top bar: fucking nothing!
>I love it Zane, push our release for 2.4 back six months and see if you can squeeze that in there.

>>154213553
AAAH IS THAT FROM TODAY? I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS

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Best ship? Best ship.

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>>154213861
yeah

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>>154213954
Gimme dat command module!

>>154213954
>>154213553
is it still in graybox or something? the texture quality looks non-existent, and if that's the case why does it have paint on it?

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>>154213553
>bestship

>>154214148
details turned off in the editor so help performance while working.

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>USE is finally gone

praise the lord

>>154214176
space penguin!

>>154214298
Replaced with Heavy Rain options for some reason. Why not a simple menu?

>>154214298
>all the FIDELITY of those randomly floating off kilter words
looks amazing Chris, now how in the fuck am I meant to scroll through these options? particularly in a hurry

>>154214380
because immersion.
That is supposed to represent your players 'inner thought'.

Yeah I don't like it either.

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>>154214380
WiP

>>154214440
middle mouse button/ scroll wheel

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>>154214298
SHAUN!

>>154214508
We're mass efect nau!

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>>154213875
>>154214176
real best ship here

In space, no one can hear you yell SHAAAAUUN!

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>>154214298
if they can make it anything like by the time it's done, will be golden

>>154213541
>cucklass

I'm glad they are phasing out USE for context sensitive options but couldn't they have done it a little better?

Hitman Blood Money does it better than this, this just looks sloppy.

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>>154214380
SpoooOOOooooky.

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nu naked male

>>154214998
How did it do it better?

>>154215114
thank god, I swear they grabbed the current model out of accounting and tossed him in the scanner, and he didn't even bother trying to suck it in or stand up straight. I can't feel good about my character when his posture betrays that he doesn't even feel good about himself.

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>>154214508
Those new Marine armors are sexy. Vast improvement over the previous designs anyway.

>>154214298
pls pls pls work with Avenger

>>154215409
It just looked less clunky. You walk over to a context sensitive object like a briefcase and you get a little box with a list of commands, pick up briefcase, put item in briefcase etc. It looked clean.

This is like a crooked jumbled mess. I feel like they need to make it look better. It's a bit sloppy and doesn't even really fit the look of the game.

>>154215642
>when his posture betrays that he doesn't even feel good about himself.

i-immersion

>>154215114
Must everything be a fucking meme with you retards? It's the new naked male model, next to the old naked male model.

>>154216310
Old and New naked females when?

>>154216310
>meme

M E M E

Give me a discord link will you?

Is KONG and /v/ed exclusive i.e. members only?

No KWA pls.

>>154216496
>Is KONG and /v/ed exclusive i.e. members only?
No, you basically join and that's it. Hop in their chats.

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>>154216609
>>154216496

You join either of them, shitpost in the discord for 2-4 weeks, realise it's autism and then quit.

Eventually you'll remember about it and go to look it up and find out both broke down at launch due to infighting

>>154213564
making an account just to cuck the daddies. can't even see the poll without one, is it close?

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>>154216878
Stop avatarfagging

>>154213564
I have E:D but never play it. What do I have to vote?

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Ever wonder why forumdads shit on SC that much?
Because they lobbied CIG to adopt ED's "competitive flight model and gameplay" and got promptly ignored.

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>>154217115
>it went straight to the spam folder

>>154217136
It's not avatar fagging when you post a reaction image, anon. I am sorry if I triggered you but please try to discuss things relevent to the thread topic and avoid shitting up the thread.

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>>154215642
Does your spessman feel good about hi-jacking someone's spaceship only to crash it into a comms relay in the ass-end of space?

>>154217256
>REEEE FLIGHT MODEL NOT REAL
>but rainbow laser projectiles and sounds in space are ok

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>tfw no comfy /edg/scg/-specific org with No Autists Allowed

>>154217462
It's avatarfagging when you post the same reaction image over and over when you have no need for a reaction image, dipshit. What you said in your post has nothing to do with shrugging unless you're a spastic turbonigger that shrugs everytime he says anything, and that's why what you're doing is avatarfagging. Now shut the fuck up.

>>154217256
>having graphics all over the screen
I wonder how old this guy is

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>>154217256
WHY DO DADS SPAM ELLIPSES SO MUCH FUCK FUCKING FUCK

I CAN PRACTICALLY SEE HIS GREY WRINKLY OBESE FACE

>>154217591
>with No Autists Allowed
So... Normies only?

>>154217591
there's a dozen people in ved that play one or the other together on a regular basis, with several of that group playing both

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>>154217591
Stop bullying 2hus or else.

Anyone here joined XPLOR or TEST?

>>154217797
...

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>>154217889
yeah boiiiiii

>>154217462
nah that pink shrug man is pretty fucking gay and I'm sick off seeing it family

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>>154217714
Please stop shitting up the thread anon.

>>154217889
and the rest is a cancerous /v/ cesspool.
and that's without touching upon the furfags.

>>154217981
I wonder what music this is meant to work with

>>154218070
kys

>>154218124
so you've never so much as dropped into the chat, then.

>>154218148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oeb9UWGSVM0

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>>154218314
No, he saw le funnay maymay images and called it a day

>>154218321
I meant it's awkward as fuck

>>154218441
Probably because the guys motion capping it felt awkward.

I bet they recorded dance moves without music running in the background.

>>154218416
What maymay images?

>>154218148
https://gifsound.com/?webm=i.4cdn.org/vg/1473365436988&v=TAeJ3WgUKD8

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>>154218551
HA

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>>154217981
>that sliding back and forth
THIS IS NOT FIDELITY

>>154218416
no, not meme images, shitposting.
This general might have been reborn in a new image but that doesn't wipe away all the time Ved has shit up /scg/ in the past.

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>>154218645
>>154218649

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>>154215114
I can't wait.

>>154218705
Please leave.

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>>154218645
>>154218649
N-NANI

>>154218731
>can't find the original video anymore
Can you help a brother out?

>>154215114
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWu3JqLMImY

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>>154218441
it just needs some more atmosphere

>>154218705
fuck off retard, you lost your fucking mind every time anyone tried to organize itt and have fun, the only one ruining the thread is you.

>>154218860
Sure bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChOVfFJJTdI

<3ved

>>154215963
>>154214998

can you post a screenshot of the ingame context menu in hitman? I don't have the game

>>154218551
https://gifsound.com/?webm=i.4cdn.org/vg/1473365436988&v=0zm0pa_voRQ&s=29
ftfy

>>154217981
JOHN MADDEN!

>>154218934
Thank you my brother of african american lineage.

>>154218934
>and people still think that supercruise is okay and doesnt need to be made faster

>>154214769
>Wanting the Swat4/ARMA style menus

They are the clunkiest piece of shit to ever grace this earth.

Even the paid Bohemia shill, Dyslexi, was complaining about how broken and shitty they are. It KILLS smoothness and immersion.

>>154219397
than what would you recommend

>>154219374
literally just fucking increase the acceleration and deceleration tenfold, and make gravity wells slow you down more harshly

>>154218880
I have no idea who you are talking about.
Perhaps another shitposter in the past.

All i know is that Ved has routinely ruined /scg/ in the past so don't try and play the 'nice guys' with our new /edg/ guests.

>that new barebones caterpillar interior
muh fucking dick
it's just like my nostromo, I can't get enough of this aesthetic
now I just need to find one that either needs a crewman or a herald escort

>>154214148
That's because it has no textures. Are you blind? It's in the editor.

>>154220157
>with our new /edg/ guests.
We're the guests here, retard. And Ved plays /elite/ while waiting for SC to get fleshed out.

Shows how much you fucking know. Shut the fuck up.

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>>154220157
>All i know
>I have no idea

>>154220157
>All i know is that Ved has routinely ruined /scg/

oh my sweet summer child, no

>>154220289
>>154220371
>>154220402
VDF pls go

>>154220541
no u

>>154217589
The dads' hypocrisy knows no bounds. Their logic is entirely made up as they go along also. Just look at the reaction to instant ship transfers.

>>154220157
Kill yourself groupshitter.

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>>154220541
>VDF pls post webms

well okay, if you say so anon

inb4 a dozen spam collages and deleted shitposts about how it's other people ruining the thread

>>154220761
Will we actually have an inventory screen with a character doll to see what we've got equipped on?

Or will we have to mickey mouse this shit and do guess work half the time?

>>154220853
You mean your falseflag posting?

>>154220946
it will most likely all be through the mobiglas
>>154221118
>ved are actually the ones calling themselves furries that they get so butthurt about
you're retarded, shut up already

>>154220289
Oh really? Can you ved furfags fuck off to your own general then?

t. /edg/

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>>154221316
This is our general.

>>154217234
Instant. Stick it up to the dads.

>>154221434
>we are the guests here
>this is our general
So what is it, you background chuckler?

>>154221316
/edg/ fag here, kill yourself shit stirrer

>>154220402
>>154220289
>>154221270

Ved fuck off and stop shitting up the thread.

>>154221574
>me and one other person who plays SC are the only people in the thread
really showing the cognitive level you're operating on here

>>154220853
Just don't give him any attention, he probably just discovered the general is back. Ignore him and he'll go away.

>>154221574
Really engages the frontal lobe, anon.

>>154221767
>Ignore him and he'll go away.
we tried that for literal years chummer and it didn't work

>>154221584
>i am one of us
You're not fooling anyone, dogfucker.

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>org poster faggots have learned enough /edg/ memes and jargon to start masking their shitposting behind the pretense of being innocents from the /edg/ threads

Just fuck off so we can discuss space vidya you fucking cancers.

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>>154221931
How many Auroras LN does it take to destroy a Starfarer by ramming it in the cockpit? For an Idris?

>>154221767
You are implying I am that one guy who spams collages.
It's not and as the person who brought this topic up, I've stopped posting for a while now so it's not just one person.

Take your shit back to your discord circlejerk faggot.

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>>154221931
They're just shitposting, report and do not reply. For the most part they're replying to themselves to make it look like there is drama.


So let's discuss the new Caterpillar's control module. Will it be Quantum capable? If so, can we buy it standalone?

>>154221861
Right but this new version has worked because those people haven't been here.

Not taking the bait is all we can do.

>>154222185
Control module doesn't even look like it has engines, let alone jump capability

>>154221931
>>154222185
I-I'm seeing double! Four skelebros

>>154222185
It'd have to be, wouldn't it? If it's going to switched between multiple ones I mean.

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>>154222378
It definitely has engines.

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>>154222185
>they redesigned it yet again
I actually like it though. I'm going to really get my hopes up to an unreasonable level and hope they keep some of the old designs and make variants of them that can be easily swapped out

>>154222576
At least there's less of a blind spot now.

>>154222547
>caterpillar module is literally a BIG herald

NEED IT

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>>154222185
Doubt the standalone

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>>154222547
>>154222576
I have to admit, I've been stopping myself from getting any ships too big, just so I have some goals when the game launches, but the Caterpillar is just such a cool ship that I want to break my rule so I can have one with LTI.

It just seems like the perfect general purpose big ship.

>>154218070
Hubba hubba zoot zoot. Edda ubba zug zug a nom nom.

Jinai and the bugrom. Its a bit dated.

>>154223410
>general purpose

Its a hauler.

>>154223598
Caterpillar is the most modular ship we have. You can convert it to many piratey and lewd roles.

>>154223598
it's a "hauler". it's role is to be involved in shady business, little bit of combat, little bit of smuggling, little bit of everything. it's also one of the first really modular ships that was designed, and unlike say the craptaliator, it's makeup should mean it's easy enough for CIG to actually implement module swapping for it at some point.

>>154223598
Educate yourself.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY6nJOLn6dk

>fighting for Fed in current CG
>see Majestic capital ship
>decide to solo kill it
>literally sit in front of each heat relay attacking them taking next to no damage
>destroy last relay after 4 or 5 minutes
>150k cr bond
I don't know whats worse, the fact the Majestic literally can't hit something right in front of its guns or the tiny reward you get for routing a capital ship. The Farragut is actually a challenge to take down as well while the Majestic is just shit.

>>154223598
Its multi use because a hull shits on everything else at hauling

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Best ship coming through, all other ships can't deny

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>>154223410
Do it.

>>154224493
>only $999

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>>154224493
>look mom, I posted it again

>>154224615
>$999

Try $625, it's a light disposable corvette not a Carrier corvete like the last one.

>>154224523
do we know what's in that big empty space between the modules and the bridge yet?

>>154217462
Depends what mood the mods are in, avatarfagging is only used to ban/warn/delete when they want to get rid of someone who isn't actually breaking rules since it can apply to almost anyone if you've ever used an image of the same character before.

>>154224728
it's supposed to replace the original Idris though
why wouldn't it go for the price they sold it at when it was the size they want the Polaris to be

>cutlass rework makes middle room a module akin to how cutlass has modules

>new modules include cargo with a rack to attach a dragonfly, infirmary, and a SWAT team hold with gun lockers and cells for the black, red, and blue.

>>154224934
>with a rack to attach a dragonfly

What's the point, you can throw a dragonfly anywhere, it can fold itself inwards to space space.

>>154224615
It's not carrying Hornets so I doubt it. It's just a Carrack with more guns.

>>154225025
Maybe you don't want your entire cargo space taken up by it, anon.

>>154224884
Don't be autistic anon, you can go to the RSI forum for that. Polaris isn't going to be $1000 when they're still selling the Idris at $1250.

>>154225037
Shitters hornet is just an aurora with more guns

>>154224884
Polaris is going to be between $450 and $700, don't be a retard.

>>154225116
>posted from an alternate universe where the dragonfly wasn't $30 *in concept* and they didn't just sell a small entry level explorer for $195

>>154225108
then just push it to the side?

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>>154224493
>Best

>>154225365
>specialized explorer for $195
>freelancer mid tier explorer for $125
>315i entry explorer for $65
>mustang delta explorer for $40

what

>>154225258
remind me how much the "starter+" Terrapin was

>>154225860
What's the Terrapin for? I remember miner and multipurpose and long distance explorer at some point. What's it supposed to be?

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>This ship design

Where have I seen this before? Some children's cartoon somewhere.

https://youtu.be/Py2KSLveyT4?t=5m34s

I was thinking pic related, but it's not exactly what I remembered

>>154217894
I am a TEST fag

>>154225980
It's an armored scout that is commonly modded with mining equipment.

>>154225980
It's a armoured and heavily shielded ship designed to use it's scanners to play like a submarine using it's long range scanners to avoid people

>>154226089
Cool, I applied to join XPLOR myself. Having a huge fleet will be quite handy.

>>154226158
>mining equipment
It is unable to mount mining equipment, anon.

>>154226194
>>154226089

Please no org posting.

>>154226343
but anon, no asperger jihadi is going to lose their shit for 250 posts over TEST or XPLOR. isn't that what the no orgposting rule is really about, capitulating to some autism terrorist's demands?

>>154226272
[citation needed]

>>154226957
Did you even read the Q&A anon? I bet you think it's also an APC.

>>154226957
Sometime around the Terrapin sale they stated you can't just put mining gear on everything because it needs a special hardpoint.

Also what >>154227134 said. Read the QA.

>>154227185
Woops, that was meant to be "Prospector sale".

>>154225446
Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
420.

>>154223771
Mobile whorehouse?

>>154227336
>What do you envision will attach to the utility hardpoints beyond scanning devices? Mining lasers? Salvage claw? Additional weapons?
>The utility mount fits equipment, rather than anything offensive, something we’re going to be seeing more of as further support and non-combat ships are revealed. The Terrapin’s Radar Dish and Scanning Array will enhance the range and capabilities of the installed Radar and Scanner, making it far more capable than one without but as utility gear is revealed, the usefulness of an armored utility platform like the Terrapin will grow.

They never say the Terrapin can't mount mining equipment. The "special hardpoint" required for mining gear is the same utility mount the Terrapin has.

>>154227760
Even if you could attach a mining laser somehow and transfer whatever you mine to the interior, you still can't get rid of the chair in the middle and have 0 secure (maglocks) cargo space. It would be terrible.

>>154227483
"Crew module" with private beds behind curtains

>>154227959
>get caterpillar
>outfit it with bedrooms and maybe a medbay and airlocks
>medbay for healing sick "girls" and airlocks for docking with clients in space
>crew ship with talented roleplaying girls (aka traps)
>land on planets and open the front of the ship
>have flamboyant greeter and or "girl" entice players inside for creds

>>154227949
So like every other activity in the game, you go with a friend in a cargo ship who can load the ore. Just because it's not an ideal mining ship doesn't mean you can't mine with it, retard. Even the prospector which is designed for mining isn't that great for solo mining.

>>154228261
>mining ship that requires another ship to actually do the job

"not ideal" is an extreme understatement.

>>154228442
Using a separate ship to put all your ore into is probably the most effective way of doing it you turbonerd.

>>154227483
Its not bmw 890

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>>154225365
>>154225860
How retarded do you have to be to think that the final Terrapin concept they sold is the same starter ship concept from 2 years ago.

What's the difference between Chris Roberts and Peter Molyneux?

>>154228607
Not really.

>Two Prospectors, both players can mine at double the rate, each have engaging gameplay
>One shitty mining ship and a cargo vessel, half as fast mining at BEST, and the cargo ship pilot gets to sit on his ass being bored to tears

bravo 10/10 would pitch to Frontier

>>154228442
Fuck off, moron. The game is clearly being designed around group activities. They don't care that you're assblasted that not every ship will allow you to do something completely solo. Stop whining like a little cunt and just get the prospector if you want to mine completely by yourself that bad, and use the extra ore bags to soak up your retard tears.

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>>154228770
Chris made good games.

I'm finally starting to feel like my decision to buy the Cat in the original concept is coming to fruition.

>>154228815
>I'm literally retarded and just like to start stupid arguments, the post
Go mine some shit and have your friend come pick up the ore when you have enough, and he can go sell it while you mine more. No sitting around required, which if you had a quarter of a brain you could've figured out for yourself.

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>>154228816
Were you mining salt a little too eagerly?

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>>154228816
>one vehicle mines, the other one stores the mined material

Oh. Isn't that going to be terribly dull and like pic related?

Shouldn't this sort of activity be automated by this point in the future?

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>>154214689

>>154228983
>Go mine some shit and have your friend come pick up the ore when you have enough

With no cargo, you can't pick any up. Checkmate.

Also
>cargo ship flying around alone

gg no re

>>154228932
Black and White wasn't good? Or Populous?

>>154228220
This is why pirate players a fucking assholes. If all you're going to do is just going to set up shit like this and trap people. The reputation system will screw you over.

Fucking 4channers.

>>154229060
>>154229138
You guys are unironically the dumbest motherfuckers on 4chan.
inb4 you were just pretending

>>154228815
Yes, lets having two mining vessels going back and forth between the belts and a storage facility instead of one mining vessel and a cargo ship who can continually store/bump the ore off somewhere while the mining ship does what it does best: Mine.

>>154229273
No seriously. How is driving a combine harvester in space fun, and why isn't this sort of thing automated when a good deal of farms today use automated combine harvesters and their loading vehicles?

Why can't you buy an armed ship with mining drones? Why can't the mining ship be remote controlled from the main ship or from a starbase nearby?

Just so we can grind for our things?

Requesting the SC video with the guy using his head tracker to aim the gimballed weapons.

Pls

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>>154229248
>somebody used my patented bait ™ post

This is how you know you've made it right?

>>154228220
Will you offer services to fur people?

>>154228220
15 y.o boys are better.

>>154229428
If you don't think mining in star citizen sounds fun, just don't do it, shit for brains.

>>154229661
Who do you think is playing the girls?

>>154229285
>while the mining ship does what it does best: Mine.

>While the ship nigger-rigged to do mining that can't actually hold any of the ore do what it does worst: mine

ftfy

>>154229637
We'll have a special offer for lead sandwiches for fur people.

>>154229735
Old faggots on hrt with silicone boobs?

>>154229713
What's the point of it being in a game if it's not fun?

Time sink? Alternative to buying credits with real money?

>>154229762
Seriously, it's like if a TBM had to be constantly emptied by hand.

>>154229885
You are oblivious to the local teenage trap population around here.

>not packing whores in avenger cryo-pods
Wew.

You know, considering the amount of shit floating around in space and that there has to be methods of mass-extraction far more cost-efficient than tiny private ships, that i have to wonder how it could ever be profitable for small privately owned captains to ever make any money doing it.

I couldn't start my own coal company and cut costs below the mining companies, and i don't even need to buy oxygen.

if you're going to have all this space bullshit why not try to make sense?

>>154230223
Bangbros Avenger Bangbus website, when?

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>>154230223
>find guy who's interested
>lead him up to the ramp of the avenger
>girls in fridges
>thaw one out
>she falls out onto the floor shaking, wet and vomiting
>"W-what day is it? What y-year?" she asks disoriented, shaking all over with tears welling up in her eyes
>"I need you to fuck someone again."
>"I w-wanna go home."
>make a jerking motion with your thumb at the guy watching the whole thing uncomfortably
>girl get's up and wobbles over to him following him around the corner
>"H-he grew a b-beard this time..." she says feeling nauseous from the cryo

>>154229285
Not mention two prospectors just as weak and vulnerable as one. If a fucking single aurora LN could easily rob and/or kill you, your ship has issues

>>154230483
>Find an Avenger acting funny out in space
>Blow it the fuck up

>>154230478
Rule of cool, anon.

In reality none of this game would function as it is. Try not to nitpick too hard unless its a gameplay element that doesn't make sense from a gameplay perspective.

>>154230607
Less vulnerable than a cargo vessel or one prospector, is the point.

>>154230569
Please, continue....

>>154230569
you got some talent kid

>>154230728
>Rule of cool, anon.
But there's nothing cool about combine harvesting, no matter what the graphics actually look like.

And it makes the entire universe start to fall apart when you ask "what the hell are we mining that everyone else is mining but we can still somehow make a profit off of extremely low yields?"

>Try not to nitpick too hard unless its a gameplay element that doesn't make sense from a gameplay perspective.
Well from a gameplay perspective it's just a timesink to keep the player invested so they don't blow through all the content immediately and get bored. Like No Man's Sky's mining.

>>154231205
Mining is mining. You gather a resource, and get paid for it. The entertainment comes from setting up that position and how involved the mechanics are, as well as dangerous transit.

But if you don't like that, then you don't like the game.

Its not a "timesink", its gameplay. If thats not your thing, don't play video games.

>>154231380
>Mining is mining. You gather a resource, and get paid for it. The entertainment comes from setting up that position and how involved the mechanics are, as well as dangerous transit.

The entertainment comes from being griefed? What?

How many MMOS have you mined in?

>Its not a "timesink", its gameplay.
Minigames are gameplay and time sinks at the same time. The point is to work towards a goal either way. The goal is a new ship or gun or whatever, and so you don't get bored the game put walls in your way so you'll play the game for longer.

HULLO!

>>154231573
NO U

>>154231570
>The entertainment comes from being griefed? What?

The fuck are you talking about

>Minigames are gameplay and time sinks at the same time

If mining is a minigame, then everything is a minigame.

>>154231573
Scott, you're lost again. Do we need to put you in a home?

>>154231773
This is true in the case of elite.
Every activity is its own minigame because it has zero effect on the galaxy overall. If christ actually makes good on his promises then missions get generated in response to what you do if you do enough of it.

>>154231716
>>154231979
:(

>>154232047
>Every activity is its own minigame because it has zero effect on the galaxy overall

Thats not really a qualifier of a "minigame".

>>154232064
You can stay if you renounce Something Awful.

>>154231773
>The fuck are you talking about
You said the entertainment comes from how dangerous the transit is and how fun pulling the trigger in front of an asteroid is.

There's not really anything fun about being podded after mining for hours by someone with a better ship than your miner or cargo hauler.

>If mining is a minigame, then everything is a minigame.
How do you define a minigame then? It has to have a little showy intro and act like a boardwalk game? Or was the hacking in bioshock not also a minigame?

Do you really think mining is going to be more complicated than point and click?

>>154232173
He can renounce it all he wants, but he's never getting those 10 dollars back.

>>154232138
Sure
If each is isolated from eachother its a minigame. Elite isnt a game, but a collection of minigames. You effectively play a guy at a carnival selecting between the games there because each are completely isolated. What you do at the shooting gallery has no bearing on the fish scoop.

>>154232456

Hindsight is always 20/20. Is it fair to deride the features of a released game by using a fantasy version of a feature from an unreleased game?

>>154232363
Transit being dangerous and there being a risk of you dying doesn't mean griefing. You a fucking carebear, son?
>how fun pulling the trigger in front of an asteroid is.
>Do you really think mining is going to be more complicated than point and click?

The entire idea is that you can't just sit there with a NMS-style laser beam and gain brozouf. There have been multiple comments on this.

Have you seen the repair system design doc? You think they're going to get that involved in repair and then have mining point and click? Nah. Thats retarded

>>154232575
You can use eve as a comparison and get the same result.

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>>154232363
>Do you really think mining is going to be more complicated than point and click?

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14522-Star-Citizen-Careers-Mining

TACTICAL MINING ESPIONAGE

>>154232678

>Transit being dangerous and there being a risk of you dying doesn't mean griefing.
What does it mean then?

>You a fucking carebear, son?
Get a load of the Darkfall furry.

>The entire idea is that you can't just sit there with a NMS-style laser beam and gain brozouf. There have been multiple comments on this.
It's amazing to me that you can quote developer promises and mention NMS at the same time without realizing you should be skeptical of developer promises because of shit like NMS.

>Have you seen the repair system design doc?
No because i don't buy into pure hype. Show me a gameplay video and i'll watch it. But the equivalent of concept art? hell no, lol.

>You think they're going to get that involved in repair and then have mining point and click? Nah. Thats retarded
So how tedious will it be if it takes more actions and time than just point and click? God i hope this lucrative, it sounds worse than farming simulator.

>>154232685
Mining is shit awful in EVE.

>>154232948
Good lord that's a lot of fluff bullshit. It's like reading a freshman book report.

It doesn't even say what you do. It's pulling a NMS.

>>154233047
>What does it mean then?

Already stopped reading.

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130 bazillion USD and this nigga still can't stop getting his shit fucked up

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>>154233047
>all these retarded twisting of that guy's words
>doesn't know a fucking thing about the design plans
>basis his position on the belief that they are definitely lying about what the mechanics will be
>now calling people furries
honestly, what the fuck is wrong with you

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>>154230569
>Frozen girls from the 21st century who were waiting for a cure for their terminal illness.
>Wake up, get cured by 30th century tech, now have massive debt from being frozen for 900 years, plus medical expenses.
>Forced to whore themselves out in a future they don't understand, can't argue because they don't know how the world works.
>In reality, Pirates raided cryo facility and stole cryopods.

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>>154233263
Don't be a baby. You can't just say "its not that. Nope not that either, nuh uh are you stupid lol?"

Just answer the fucking question. What is dangerous about the transit that doesn't involve being killed by NPC's or players? Your ship just randomly breaking? Crashing into a rock?

All it does it set you back time. How much time?

>>154233338
>honestly, what the fuck is wrong with you

I don't blindly believe the statements of people who want to sell me a product. I'll wait to see if they can actually make it fun instead of reading their concepts for what "they want" to put in the game.

>>154233491
You're either actually illiterate or just a moron. Either way, don't care. Have one final (you)

>>154233338
>>now calling people furries

as for that, whenever i hear someone call people "carebears" i think of the griefing furfaggots who absolutely adored an MMO called Darkfall that was all about resource collecting and griefing people who are resource collecting.

Most of the people played furry characters.

>>154233491
I believe his point was that acting like all pvp is griefing immediately marks you asa retard not worth talking to

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>mining
>fun
>ever

>>154233047
>What does it mean then?
Piracy you dumb cunt. Killing explorers and blowing up empty, unattended ships is griefing. Killing someone to profit off of their cargo is piracy. If you actually gain something other than sadistic pleasure then it isn't griefing.

>>154233649
You're totally on the money, anon. But you also gave him another (you)

>>154233174
Probably hold m1 until the thing goes red then let go until danger mode stops

>>154233174
Eh? It's pretty clear, you find area in asteroid belt with profitable raw materials, either through your own exploration or by buying info from a broker. Then you fly your mining ship there, capture asteroid with gravity beam, locate the best place to crack it with scanning, crack that shit with a laser, get the ore or whatever the fuck you were after.

>>154233491
I'm not either person you're responding to, but damn, you're stupid.

>>154233649

Not all pvp. Just pvp versus relatively defenseless mining operations. You ever play EVE?

>>154233685
>Killing someone to profit off of their cargo is piracy. If you actually gain something other than sadistic pleasure then it isn't griefing.

In games where you don't lose anything on death besides what you mined, yes.

Is there really no penalty for losing your ship in this game? No insurance fee even?

>>154233685
>If you actually gain something other than sadistic pleasure ten it isn't griefing

In a game like ED/SC, griefing is highly specific and situational. Just killing someone should never be considered griefing. But something like destroying someone's ship immediately as it spawns on a platform should be considered griefing.

>>154233878
Yeah, you did the same thing in Earth and Beyond. There's nothing new about this.

>>154234019
>Just pvp versus relatively defenseless mining operations

If those mining operations are "defenseless", and would yield a profit to pirates, its not griefing in any way. Its miners being fucking morons and taking a risk at not protecting their assets.

>Is there really no penalty for losing your ship in this game? No insurance fee even?

So you don't even have the most basic fucking knowledge of how this game operates, yet you're in here shitposting. Find a better use of your time, cunt.

>>154234161
Ok? Where did I claim that was new? I just explained the anon with poor reading comprehension skills what was written in that RSI post.

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>>154233664
They got to die earlier than the rest of us. Isn't that fun? Sounds like fun.

>>154234019
A fee and perhaps a timer on how long it takes for a ship to get to you (if you don't have a ludicrously common ship like the Aurora or Avenger) is planned. But how about games like Demons and Dark Souls, where you roll up to an unsuspecting guy and slaughter him? He's got to do the work to get back there, maybe he didn't have any humanity left? When it's such an integral part of how the game is supposed to be played can it really be called greifing?

In any case, not having at least some defenses around you as a miner, as >>154234230 states, is not only stupid but insanely risky, especially considering how the UEE and Advocacy are overstretched and undermanned in their own systems. If you can't defend yourself in this situation you have no one to blame but yourself when you die.

>>154234112
Constantly killing someone who is just trying to mine in peace is fun pvp?

>If those mining operations are "defenseless", and would yield a profit to pirates, its not griefing in any way. Its miners being fucking morons and taking a risk at not protecting their assets.

How many ships does a mining operation need in total to be defended from a single attack vessel? Are the mining and cargo ships a match for one attack ship? If the guy still has a better ship, does he then have a right to halt your progress in the game?

>So you don't even have the most basic fucking knowledge of how this game operates, yet you're in here shitposting. Find a better use of your time, cunt.

Because i'm not a fanatic who gets hyped up about unreleased games by hasbeen developers. How's No Man's Sky doing for you?

>>154234416
It's such a basic tenet of space games that i didn't know why you felt the need to spell it out.

>>154233628
yeah, well, nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about and you sound like a retard when you bring it up for no reason
>everyone around me is a furry if they played a non human race in an mmo once

So I was thinking of giving the vulture a shot for the conflict zone CG.

https://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/2patfFalddksif37l7l00070704B22b272j00.Iw19kA==.CwBjIRjCdqWMIA==

Would this load out work?

I kinda hate all the shield boosters, but a kill warrant scanner seems useless and having so much maneuverability makes me wanna have a decent shield so that I can dip in and out and let it recharge vs smaller ships.

>decide to leave my explorer and fly to the community event to fight for the federation in a cobra
>less than twenty light year jumps
Holy fuck the next fucking update cant fucking come sooner.

>>154234504
SO far most space games have basic tenet of shooting a "mining laser" into asteroid and watch your hull get filled with ore. Rarely it goes beyond that, let's be honest.

>>154234503
>A fee and perhaps a timer on how long it takes for a ship to get to you (if you don't have a ludicrously common ship like the Aurora or Avenger) is planned.

Oh wow, so less risk than EVE? That's surprising, i figured you'd have to pay to replace everything at least.

>But how about games like Demons and Dark Souls, where you roll up to an unsuspecting guy and slaughter him? He's got to do the work to get back there, maybe he didn't have any humanity left? When it's such an integral part of how the game is supposed to be played can it really be called greifing?

I was assuming you could lose your ship or a significant amount of money. If the game has no real death penalty, then it doesn't matter at all. All you lose is the time you spent mining something.

>In any case, not having at least some defenses around you as a miner, as >>154234230 states, is not only stupid but insanely risky, especially considering how the UEE and Advocacy are overstretched and undermanned in their own systems. If you can't defend yourself in this situation you have no one to blame but yourself when you die.

So you need how many ships to defend against one?

>>154234537
Oh sorry i figured people here would remember something that popular from less than 6 years ago. My bad.

>>154234504

>Constantly killing someone who is just trying to mine in peace is fun pvp?

Why do you get to decide what is and isn't fun for someone?

>>154234112
I assume you mean things like killing people outside CG destinations. In that case it really depends on the CG. For example there were reasons for Empire/Federation players to want to stop the capital ship CGs.

>>154234504
Did you quote the wrong person?

>>154234724
Seriously anon, no body knows what you're talking about. We had different lives than you.

>>154234724
You only have the stock equipment replaced, which is shit-tier.

>>154234709
Because doing more than that just adds time to the activity that could be spent doing fun things. Streamlining really helps shit like this not be as tedious.

>>154234796
Oh lord.

>>154234831
Yeah i was alive in the 90's.

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>>154234504
>Constantly killing someone who is just trying to mine in peace is fun pvp?
Its fun PK :^)

>>154233446
Wasn't that basically faye's backstory in cowboy bebop?

>>154234897
>Because doing more than that just adds time to the activity that could be spent doing fun things

Jesus you're a moron.

Really, you are.

>>154234889

Then the "fun pvp" suddenly becomes about setting people back or just having more money than them, and not just besting them at a test of skill.

>>154234230
> taking a risk at not protecting their assets
Fucking wut? You ever actually play ED, where meta pvp shitlords in wings of 2-3 gank anything but? You seriously expect people to take fleets with them to protect one or two miners grinding their shit? You really think 2-3 pvp-oriented escorts will just watch their bud shooting lazors into stones for two hours just because "piracy"?
Let me guess, you're not actually planning to mine or haul shit, but gank dumbass idjits huehue.

>>154234897

Stay in Mobius, please. You can mine to your heart's content with no one bothering you and you can have your little mining drones do the work.

>>154235031

Nice meme.

>>154235063
>Fucking wut? You ever actually play ED, where meta pvp shitlords in wings of 2-3 gank anything but? You seriously expect people to take fleets with them to protect one or two miners grinding their shit? You really think 2-3 pvp-oriented escorts will just watch their bud shooting lazors into stones for two hours just because "piracy"?
>Let me guess, you're not actually planning to mine or haul shit, but gank dumbass idjits huehue.

No. I'm saying the whole mining/piracy thing won't be fun for more than a few hours. Just like in ED.

>>154235063
No, I've not played E:D, because its a shitty game that promotes that kind of pointless gameplay through solo/open mode.

>>154235034
The combat isn't like EvE, its more skill based. Have a fighter with you that has some skill and you can fend of an attacker or two.

>>154235179
Its not a "meme". Are you from reddit or something? Not familiar with the terminology?

I'm calling you a dumb cunt because you are one.

>>154234897
>Yeah i was alive in the 90's.

I doubt that.

>>154234809
>I assume you mean

Like I said, in games like this it's highly situational. If I'm running a blockade of some place and I kill you every time you try to get in, is that considered griefing? I'm gaining nothing but a blockade for example. The best example Frontier have given is stream sniping over and over again.

But with SC, a situation in which a player just sits at a landing pad all day destroying people's ships as they spawn, that's a bit more obvious.

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>people in the thread bitching miners getting ganked

Stick to solo or git gud.

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>>154235372
Stars are fucking gay how is this allowed?

>>154234897
>Because doing more than that just adds time to the activity that could be spent doing fun things. Streamlining really helps shit like this not be as tedious.

Jesus Christ, what a faggot.

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>>154235372

>there are people that gank miners

hahaha. wow.

>>154234724
As >>154234889 said, you get the stock ship back, with stock weapons unless you pay out a more hearty insurance premium for cargo and equipment, but you still lose any modifications you make to it. There's not a lot more said on insurance, as right now it's only a timer to replenish your ship. You could also eventually lose reputation with different in-game factions, once they exist, if you die enough. The amount of reputation lost has not been expanded upon in follow up materials, and won't be until the base system is fully in place.

The goal isn't to kill the pirate, necessarily, but to give the miner time enough to escape if the situation warrants it. Still, it shouldn't take more than two fighters to properly deal with a pirate, especially just one. And you don't stick around when the pirates come in with more than two vessels unless you've got serious backup or some kind of death wish.

It's a matter of not being dense about it and paying attention more than anything else.

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So, how bout that No Man's Sky?

>>154235558
>implying its not sun orbiting flat earth

>>154228816
>>154229060

>Farm Simulator automates one of the vehicles for you
>SC doesnt

That's just fucking pathetic.

>>154235005
Yep. Spent her adult life trying to pay off a fake dept to a scammer.

>>154235558
Stars are fucking cute, anon. Even the GabeN star you posted.

Lotta junk in the trunk.

>>154235682
How is this even bait?

>walks near and licks palms loudly
>"haha made you mad"

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>>154235615
>>154235615

Everyone knows transport pubbies are much more fun to gank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqm9HSYbf0o

How does it feel knowing that Star Citizen has better looking ships than Star Trek series?

Seriously, this looks worse than TNG graphics.

>>154235332
>>154234809
What about people like n1njadeer who does it because he hates "carebears", to the point where he twitch streams hours upon hours of himself ramming "carebears" as they try to dock with stations.

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>>154230569

>>154235858
>gank
REEEEEEEEE

>>154235854
>responding about how mad I didn't make you
>making it perfectly clear you're not mad

Summin ain't right here.

>>154235858

Either way, anyone that actually enjoys shooting fish in a barrel are casuals that need to slam their ship into the nearest asteroid or station at top speed, uninstall the game, then swallow a bullet.

This applies to both SC and E:D.

>pirating NPC miners for 100s of tons of low temp diamonds

MAKIN BACON

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>>154235919
The fact it takes place ten years before Kirk and stars a black female Klingon commander (not the entire bridge crew or even the captain) upsets me far more than the garbage ship design.

>>154236138
It's easy money anon. You kill them then take the cargo, and you don't need to mine it yourself! And the salvage!

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>>154236078
Only because you were so diligent in posting it over and over

>>154236073
>Hehe, ganked that carebear real good. Yah see viewers, the trick is to ram the ship just enough to get a fine but not enough to be marked as wanted. Wedge him into a wall and he'll explode. Land, repair and you're ready to gank annother carebear. Heh, here's annother carebear, watch this.. OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT He moved out of the way! What a fucking asshole. Asshole. YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE."

>>154236219
This is why you hire mercs.

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>>154236338
http://geektyrant.com/news/2010/12/31/concept-art-and-story-details-for-unproduced-1976-star-trek.html

Should have just made Planet of the Titans into a series.

>>154236451
>hiring mercs
>having to share the booty

you what

>>154235179
>>154235274
Why do you think SC will be any different from literally every MMO before?

>>154236534
>be mining company
>make pretty good mining
>use income to hire paramilitary group to watchover mining operation

I'm not against pirating, it's a terrific option but you gotta work for that dosh sometimes.

>>154236678
oh yeah that

those NPCs only show up in hi sec civilised space, the trick is to make them jump to lawless space then scan their wake and follow them

>>154236624
Its certainly aiming to be on certain mechanics.

>>154236794
For me I want to get more social and cerebral with pirating. I wanna trick people, smooth talk, set traps instead of brute forcing it.

There could be a real demand for people who can play others.

>>154237491
>Trick people, smooth talk, set traps

All this possible with player trading. Hopefully SC gets that right.

>>154237491
Piracy in ED is fucking tricky tho

first you have to scout systems and find place that generates high value ships reliably

then you have to interdict those ships and make them jump to a neighboring system. Repeat until lawless because even in low sec the cops will show up before you're done gutting your target

then you have to disable the target without blowing it up, and since all hauling ships are made out of fucking paper that's no easy task.

then you get the drones out and you break the target's cargo hatch, scoop what comes out, scan for cargo to get an idea how fast you're going, break the hatch again, scoop... ofc scooping can be replaced with limpets too

>>154237872
Yeah but E:D is designed by people with drown syndrome with a pathological hatred of fun gameplay.

>>154237872
oh also then you have to find a place to sell the shit to that doesn't rob you on fencing the stolen goods

>>154237639
Mmhm, of course people will have to wise up or get played. It'll be neat to see wide eyed kids become hardened anti social recluses after being fucked like a cheap Thai hooker enough.

But hopefully every playstyle will be viable and work off each other like an ecosystem.

Pirates need traders and cargo ships so traders and cargoships need mercs etc etc. The circle of life.

>>154237872
Or. Or. You shoot the ship once, then lure it ~10k away, so when the cops spawn there's nothing on their scopes, and they jump right back out.

>>154236338
>yfw cbs tries to kill axanar because they know it will btfo of discovery

>>154238115
and cause my cash cow system to go into lockdown? no thanks

>>154238016
>Become hardened anti social recluses after being fucked like a cheap Thai hooker enough

Star Citizen potentially modern day Runescape?

>>154238245
Then just one jump. Still lots of time.

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>SQ42
>Bengal fighting against Kingship, loosing
>Retribution jumps in
>commanded by Admiral Bishop
>it begins firing upon the kingship, the Bengal, and you
>this begins playing
https://youtu.be/7DlAnBdtmnE?t=251 04:12

How would you react?


Posting size comparison for our ED thread buddies, reminder that it's cosy with you guys cuddled up with us.

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>>154235919
That is the second ugliest star fleet ship I've ever seen.

>>154238623
3.3km long ships seem stupid.

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This just in, RSI dad now believe that twitch shooting is immersion breaking. This is something I'd expect from ED's worst dads

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/345372/newbie-here-what-is-a-fast-twitcher#latest

>>154238846
that's a pretty arbitrary thing to get mad about. if you can expand your mobile space city essentially infinitely why wouldn't you? there is no logistical problems involved unlike a terrestrial city.

>>154238936
>Check your fire

>>154238623
Keep in mind, half of retribution is a giant gun.