/domg/ - Dominions General

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First for snek

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already ded

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Threadly reminder that Asphodel needs to be more creepy.

US Evening is possibly not the most productive time of day to create a thread when it's slow in the best of times.

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>>154150383
Shush, we shall live!


More crossbreeds when?

Notice - there is a plague spreading in 19. This isn't a metaphorical plague, or even the result of Bane Venoms, but an actual one. Khaer and Djeris are advised to patrol their borders to prevent the spread of this disease.

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>>154154159
no

If something is "towering over the army" in a scout report, does that mean it is enlarged by magic or simply that it is a certain size?

>>154139014
>So 7 Dominion can be fine? I've read that if my dominion wanes, i lose. Do i build temples like crazy or is 7-6 dominion just fine on its own?
Yeah, no candles means you lose, but it's not as important as it sounds. A recent(ish) change reduced the benefit of high dominion significantly. At dom6, it used to be 60% chance of dominion spread per temple each turn (100% at dom10). Now it's 80% at dom 6, which is much better.

There are other benefits to higher dom which didn't get changed, but that's the biggest one.

Putting a temple in every fort you make is usually more than enough to be fine dominion-wise (and you'll need a similar amount of temples anyway with dom10) plus you can send priests to Preach if enemy dominion is spreading too much.

>>154155326
Simply a certain size. I've seen normal elephants can be "towering over the army".

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Are these guys worth 3 nature gems at conj 3?

>>154157592
What size?

>>154157692
size 4

>>154155620
>Simply a certain size. I've seen normal elephants can be "towering over the army".
I think size 4 is sufficient or possible even being bigger than the majority of the army. I've seen TC nobles and chariots tower over the army.

Thinking of giving Dom a second try. Got some questions:
a) domg usually plays with Ohlman's Worthy Heroes and Sum1won mod, correct?
b)"You should be aiming to have around 12+ provinces and a second fort finished or close to completion at the end of the first year." Is this still right?
c)Can anyone point me to a guide/guideline for thugging. Last time I played tried to fiddle with it a bit, decked out EA(I think) Caelum berd with liquid body(??? the spell that protects from hits, until someone hits you hard) that got me some provinces and then got hit by Barbarian losing liquid body and quickly died.
d)The most important question: How do I magic? Is everything tailored to your choice of strategy and your race, so there's no general advice? I have hard time grasping magic, I look at magic and can't understand what would level X of magic A would bring me, why would I want it, etc.

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So, it is turn 5 and I already lost the game.
Expansion parties lost, I only hold 3 provinces, including my capital, and birds are taking indy provinces where I could have expanded.

I decided to end my suffering quickly, what is best way to lose this early?
I was thinking of going full pillage and blood hunting on my capital, before tearing the fort and lab down and rushing someone.

Lads prepare your assholes

I have an idea for the memest of meme games and I'm gonna start it tomorrow

>>154161147
Depending on the nation you are you can also turtle up and cast cancer global in addition to what you're doing. But what you're doing works too.

>>154161817
Well don't leave us hanging.

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>in about 10 pbems
>2 late game that take about 20-30 minute turns
>8 early to middle ones that that take <10 minute turns
>realize that all 8 of them will hit late game at the same time.
>realize that I could be spending 2 hours on PBEM turns a day.

I'm kind of excited

>>154159326
a.) Worthy Heroes most of the time, Summod some of the time, random mods occasionally

b.) 12+ and fort is doing pretty well, but it depends on the nation and whether or not you took an awake pretender. If awake, you had damn well better have at least that. If a slow expanding nation less is not so bad

c.) All guides are generally out of date, the one that most new people find on google is from Dom3 or some shit if I recall.
>tl;dr thugging : A brand of some kind and a shield preferably. Vine Shields tend to be pretty good. If you can't make brands some kind of AoE weapon will suffice, and if you can't make Vine Shields any shield with an effect is generally alright. You want a thug to stay cheap as it's probably going to die at some point. They need good base stats or traits or paths so stuff like Elves, Giants, Ghosts, etc. are decent thugs. Do not thug a human, but if you HAVE to make it some kind of mounted commander and don't give it more than a weapon.

c2. SC's are different than thugs and are shit like Dai Oni in full real-nigga gear that are made to shit on an whole army by themselves. Do not try to turn a thug chassis into one of these as you'll likely waste a bunch of gems. You don't want to do this unless it's some type of big summon or your nation's gameplan usually.

d. Ask here what some of the general goals your nation wants and it'll give you an idea of what you want to try to do. AKA an Air nation wants Evocation up to Storm, Alteration up to Fog Warriors, etc. Early on you'll want to get Evocation to 2 quickly for the ability to have your Air mages cast Lightning Bolt incase you need it, and Alteration to whatever Mistform is(3?) early is also generally useful. It's basically 2 phases, early on you hit cheap goals like Evo 2 and Alt 3 etc, and then you make a grind straight to Alt 7 or something and start hitting your higher research goals.

Update on Ermor party? Last I heard he was actually doing quite well for himself

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late night ulmgrib blitz graphs

marignon won

Just started playing this game. Whats a good faction to start as?

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>>154164508
marignon's pretender

>>154164382
I'm just giving the nations that are going to war supply items. No bones border me though.

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Kichikuo_Domg

reminder new LA started
>14 players
>45 MF
>WH 5.5 (NN) and Sum1mod .66c
>anti lemurian nations are already in

6/14 so far

>>154165431
Latest sum1mod is .67 though.

>>154165745
it's not stable

>>154165745
No it isn't. It's not released yet.

Does snow do anything but reduce heat aura effects?
I can't find anything in the description or the manual that says otherwise but I feel like I'm missing something.

>>154166684
water elementals become ice elementals

>>154167349
There we go, thanks! Is that it? Unfortunately google searching or ctrl-f'ing the manual doesn't reveal these secrets to me.

>>154159326
>>154147646
a)Usually
b)That's a bit low, I like to aim for 15, more is possible if you don't run into another player or have a strong bless/god.
c)http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?act=idx has the most and best guides. Thugging is harder and less worthwhile than in Dom 3 though. If you insist on it, play Vanheim or Helheim.
d) See the above link, a lot depends on your nation and god, and looking at a guide for them can give good suggestions. Stick to a nation with low path variety to start to make things easy, like Pangaea.

>>154164048
Basically SC is thug on steroids, but most of the time thug chassis CAN'T be used for SC, right?
> AKA .... goals
That's the hardest part, I guess I have no choice but to ask here to get experience.

>>154165431
>45 MF
What's that? Magic-site Frequency? What does 45 mean if that's it?

>>154167850
15 is fucking delusional and totally dependent on luck baring Erf Snek memes you are bound to either run into another nation or wipe out against a shitty scout report at least half the times even if you know what the fuck you are doing.

>>154168693
Improve yourself

>>154168585
magic site frequence yes

baiscally 45% means 45% of the provinces in the game will have a least 1 magic site. LA typical MF is 35% but I hate that so I always up it to 45% which is EA level

>>154168693
It's not doable every game, but a strong nation should be able to hit 20 provinces year 1.

If a spell has 100 precision will it always hit or can I still use precision lowering debuffs to mitigate it?

>>154168802
I like having slightly reduced site-frequency in Late Age. It feels more appropriate for the higher level of technology. Everyone might as well still be using copper and palisades if magic is powerful and available enough to make armies redundant before too long.

>>154169187
Late age is a really interesting concept, but it's ruined by blood magic.
The entire shift from dom3 to dom4 would be really interesting, if it weren't for blood magic.

>>154168071
>Basically SC is thug on steroids, but most of the time thug chassis CAN'T be used for SC, right?
Sort of.

SCs are more about countering a specific army, rather than a generic thing you can mass produce like thugs. That's mainly due to the fact they need to deal with enemy mage support, which is a lot more varied than the PD thugs are built to fight.

>but most of the time thug chassis CAN'T be used for SC, right?
Most thug chassis don't make good SCs, yes.

>>154168585
>What does 45 mean if that's it?
I've yet to hear exactly how magic site placement works, but 45 is EA site frequency, so a bit higher than normal for LA. Also it makes blood magic stronger

>>154169089
Most precision lowering debuffs only affect precision on units. The spell precision is separate and will not be reduced by storm/mist/darkness/etc.

>>154169343
>Most precision lowering debuffs only affect precision on units
That can't be right, because precision buffs (Eagle Eyes for example) DO affect mages. It would be odd for buffs to work but not debuffs.

>>154168071
Well when you're thinking about an SC chasis basically you're looking to make sure that they have access to appropriate buffs via their magic paths. And that the usually have a way to live through a lot i.e. High protection, HP, and defensive skill (you want at least 2 out of those 3). For Instance a Dai Oni has High hp naturally, highish protection. For magic he has access to Earth and Death. Earth and Death can both raise his protection through (ironskin and invulnerability respectively) and once you've done that if you equip him with an area of effect weapon (usually a frostbrand or firebrand in this case because of the nation's paths) and shield to slow down attackers (vine shield is a favorite) you have him as a very proficient thug. He can clear out most PD by himself no problem. Now how does he get pushed to an SC? By using more buffs and items of course! The big one for Dai Oni's are soul vortex. Soul vortex (Death 3, Alteration 6) is probably the best one because it damages all units around your SC and heals it at the same time. Now you can also use them to cast earthquake too which is a good way to kill a bunch of enemies at once. Now one of the big problems encountered by SC is the fact that they're fighting an army by themselves and have no chance to rest. So items or blesses that can reinvigorate them or regenerate health are essential. So you want to give your Oni some items to help with this and to raise their magic resistance so a mage doesn't just cast a spell to pierce armor and kill them.

>>154169415
Poor choice of words on my part. I'll try explain in more detail.

Eagle Eyes increases the unit's precision, which is then added the spell precision. So say you have a human casting fireball, he has 10 precision, and gains +1 from fireball for a total of 11 precision for that attack. If he casts eagle eyes his base will go up to 14, which again gets +1 when casting fireball for a total of 15 precision.

If you had him casting a 100 precision spell instead, you'd get 10 base +100 from the spell for a total of 110 precision. If you cast storm his base precision halves to 5, but the spell still gives +100 so the total will be 105.

The spell bonus precision is what I was referring to not changing. Units and Commanders both get affected by precision buffs/debuffs.

>>154168693
15 is pretty typical unless something goes horribly wrong. Not getting that many really harms your ability to potentially win.
20 is about where I'd want to be with an awake expander, and I *usually* hit around that amount. Anything higher than that is fantastic, but requires getting really lucky with neighbor's expansion (or just kill the neighbor).

If your nation can't reliably hit 15 provinces year 1, you may want to consider running an Awake Expander.

EA nation of choice for summoning shit? Does Agartha work? For some reason I am really drawn to this nation's concept.

>>154168071
And remember making your thug into an SC shouldn't always be your goal. Sometimes SC aren't the most economical solution. For instance one of the most popular thug chasis is the Vanjarls/Drotts from Helheim and Vanheim.

Now they already have very high natural defense and extra way to avoid attacks via virtue of being elves and having glamour. So when you add in Mistform (alt 3) they will dodge most attacks. So add in a vine shield and a brand and they'll dice PD.

Now the part that makes them so popular is the fact that they're stealthy and highly mobile via cloud trapeze (enchantment 4) So you can either use them to scout a province and get them to attack once you know that the pd is low enough for them to win or just get another unit to scout the province then trapeze them onto it.

So while they aren't SC's and can't take on armies by themselves, 5 of these thugs (200 gold, and 50-100 gems) can cause your opponent to lose 3-5 provinces a turn. Which helps your main stack out by making your opponent chose to split his forces or accept the temporary income loss.

But yea this a stupid deep game, and there's 1000's of ways to get the jobs done, some better than others, rarely one better than all others though.

I've just discovered that one of the spells available to my mages is amazing. Like, holy shit why have I not been spamming nothing but this amazing.

>>154170184
Oh and Hangadrotts from Helheim have access to D3 so you can use them to cast soul vortex too which makes them even stronger thugs and the Vandrotts have access to earth which will help them raise their protection.

Which may seem like they'll end up as potential SC (and they can depending on the army) but bear in my they're vulnerable to evo spam and spells they can't dodge. So you can use them as situational SC's when you know the enemy won't have many mages.

What's a good pretender build for Summod's MA Man and does anyone have any tips for them?

They seem to want basically every scale... it's hard to get Magic 3 and the Income scales to build Knights of Avalons from spawned Forest Glades.

And what sort of late game can I aim for anyway? This is the first non-Evocation focused nation I've tried and I have no idea what to do after grabbing all the nation-specific buffs.

>>154170890
This is my opinion from trying them, but they're not exactly the best late-game nation, as such you should aim to gain an advantage mid-game.

For pretender I see thug summoning imprisoned pretender is a popular choice, but I haven't tried that particular build myself.

How much is a gem worth in gold for trading purposes?

>>154171369
One other gem, anywhere from 2-10 blood slaves (or more!), anywhere from 20-50 gold (or more!)

>>154170890
Oh also you don't need magic 3, magic 2 is enough to spawn forest glades (unless he changed that in the latest version?)

Avalon Knights are also killer at expanding, 5 of them can take on +50 barbarians by themselves so long as there's no mages.

>>154157592
well it seems like they would be able to kill high protection units, which is something other early summons don't do well...or at least not THIS well.

i would use just a few of them and buff them. summod cheat fate should scale and sounds good for kailasa. ofc quickness and marble warriors would be ideal.
28hp 13 protection 9 defense is pretty weak desu.

>>154161147
keep expanding to tolerable size.
then use the magical art of diplomacy with bird's neighbours and try to get a lot of lands out of that.the truth is that until your upkee catch up your income even a small kingdom can recruit a decent amount of mages to research.

birds will have thunderstrikes online turn 20.
there is no reason to throw a game this early.

>>154171369
>>154171412

A pearl is worth 1.5 other gems at least, though.

>>154173307
i would value a pearl 0.75 other gems.
in what world are you living when pearls have a very good use outside of small quantities for items and 1 gem/battle for antimagic?

there are no good summons, and no good global until lategame, even then they have less globals than other gemtypes.
litterally useful for wish(which few nations can cast) and that's it.

I finally got this game the other day. I haven't done much more than finish the tutorial and mess around a bit in single player, but so far it doesn't seem as complicated as I feared. There's still a whole lot I know nothing about, though, so I might be jumping to conclusions. The game looks pretty neat regardless.

I'll have to join a PBEM game here eventually, once I've gotten the hang of things. Large multiplayer games sound a whole lot more fun than single player, and the community seems more active than I expected. Also it looks like I'm not the only new one here, so that makes me feel a bit better about the idea.

>>154173437
Golems and Will of the Fates are pretty good.

>>154173437
Pearls and Death gems absolutely are strongest gems late game, for the summons (Blood doesn't count).
Wish, Nexus, alone are enough to carry pearls through, alongside Juggernauts and Golems. And has a game winning global (Nexus).
Death gems have death summons, among which are Tarts. Enough said.
Nature is also quite strong, what with several game winning globals (Gift of Nature's Bounty, Enchanted Forests, Gift of Health) and solid mage summons/chaff summons.

>>154167676

Cold dominion turns the spell "rain" into just a bunch of snow which doesn't increase fire spells casting cost.

>>154173437

Well, ignoring such great spells such as Lights of the Northern Star, Power of the Spheres, Teleport, Returning, Mind Hunt, Divine Name and Master Enslave which all require pearls, if someone is asking for them, then that means they need them for something. If there is need then why the fuck would you sell them for cheaper than they are worth? Pearls are the universal gem from which all other gems can be made and into which all other gems are made. By that fact alone, they are more valuable than other gems.

>>154173948
You forgot Astral Travel and Gateway. Astral has the best troop transport spells.

There's a ton of useful items which need pearls too.

>>154164714
Ea,Ma Pangaea/Ea,La Mictlan with a strong bless. Strong in their own right but having a strong bless gives you something to crutch on. W9 centaurs are one of the strongest sacred in game so you can be a powerhouse without much effort.

>>154171216
>For pretender I see thug summoning imprisoned pretender is a popular choice, but I haven't tried that particular build myself.
What build do you use and have you seen any examples of those imprisoned builds?

>>154173680
We should really change the OP in these threads. The game isn't particularly hard. There's just a lot of potential depth.

If you know how to move guys around, take territory and basic magic stuff you're ready for a PBEM. You won't get any better against the AI, you have to lose against a few real players. It won't take long at all to get to regular /domg/ level. This place isn't that great at the game.

>>154173680
We may be overegging it slightly in the OP, but we prefer people to be definitely aware of the depth rather than stumbling in, sinking, and thinking the game isn't for them.

Also, welcome to dominions 4, glad to have you here.

>decide to take Earth Serpent
>send it in province, blind why not
>it dies to Barbs
That's my fault, but does it need Awe (I know barbarians ignore it)? And speaking of pretender design, which scales do I want for Agartha? Order 3, Misfortune 1/2 (since every mage is fortune teller), Magic 2, Growth if left with enough points?

>>154176604
Barbs are always a bit chancy with awake pretenders due to being able to hit really hard. Also which era of Agatha?

Awe is ignored by units once they've gone berserk, and barbarians have low morale, so it would help but see above.

>>154176604
If it's EA go heat since the poor sobs are cold-blooded.

>>154176701
EA.

>>154176604
erf snek expands with E6 and not cold scale in the province.
it just has a chance to fail against barbs and stacks of heavy cavalry...more dominion on that province and experience stars help, so you could have probably taken that after some turns of expanding in other provinces.

Earth snake usually doesn't die, it just routes. did you have him move? he's supposed to stay in the corner and hold x5 so he will be out of range of nature mages and can route in 1 turn if he fails the morale check.

>>154176835
As the person above said, heat scales are a good dump as they stop the pale ones being even shitter than normal.

I generally shy away from misfortune due to the annoyance of early game negative events such as barbarians attacks, however a sensible choice due to the nigh-omnipresence of fortune teller.

>>154176950
>>154177392
Currently trying out E4 Dom9 Order 3 Heat 2 Growth 2 Misfortune1 Magic 2. What do you get from more earth? Just protection?
>he's supposed to
Yeah, that makes sense, thx for advice.

>>154177841
Heat 3 is better in terms of points to money lost, as it can't swing further in summer.

>>154177841
dom9 is a waste in my opinion.Erf snek expands fine with just E6.
heat 2 is a crazy huge mistake, just go for heat 3.

>>154177903
>>154178040
What do I waste those points on? Assuming Dom6 E6 Heat 3 Growth 3 I have points for two more scales. My options are:productivity, 0 misfortune, third magic. Third magic is neat, but relative increase lessens with each point taken. One luck seems counter-intuitive with order 3. Productivity? Troglodytes look good for early expansion and they need 1 resource. Could mix them with stone hurlers or olms, low resource usage too.
Another thing that arised now is fort placement. Where do I place them? There aren't any chokepoints most of the time.

Are we still doing this relocation thing? I've got two provinces I will put on the market to displaced nations. (200) for every last gem you have (if I deem them enough), and 268 for a 40 gems and being my personal sweat shop.

>>154178850
Order actually unlocks some of the better events, such as markets (lots of gold) or even free fort construction.

HAHAHA WHAT NOW VANARUS??? U MAD???

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO HAVE MOTHER OAK STOLEN BY FUCKING ABYSIA. I CLIMBED ALL THE WAY FROM N1 TO GET HERE.

#rekt #turborekt #abysiacucked

>>154179598

And by N1 I mean indie N1 witch doctor.

>>154179598
That last # makes it look like you were the one being cucked.

>>154180120

HAHAHA... FUCK.

Oh well.

#rekt #turborekt #shrekt I guess

>>154179598
I'm just picturing this big ass charred tree in the middle of a garden of flames.

Also when you cast a global I wish it would also create a spot on the map, I.E. you drop the tree in that location, or have the eternal pyre in a certain area. Then when people conquer your province they get a bonus in dispelling it or overcasting it in that province (still can't take it from you though).

summoning der_gotterdammerung graphs

>>154179387
Luck looks like "all or nothing" scale. Or I'm wrong?

>>154181128
Not really, luck 1 and 2 unlock a number of events as well and the frequency of events won't be changed dramatically. Depending on how much you'd benefit from magic scales, luck is a perfectly fine place to drop design points even if you don't reach L3.

>>154181560
Well magic 2 grants 9-10% increase for engravers and 5% increase for Oracles. Could exchange it for luck 2

>>154181128

Not really. Luck 3 does unlock a lot of REALLY GOOD events, but Luck 1 unlocks a bunch of fairly nice ones as well.

There's a fair number of events that are multiple scales as well. For example, Luck1 Magic1 is better for gems than Luck 2.

The free fort events need both Order and Luck.

Personally I never like taking Misfortune, even at high Order, just because Misfortune 1 is all that's needed for a lot of the random "Indies attack!" events, which are annoying as fuck.

my game experiences with Order 3 and luck 3 have been pretty poor.
sure there were a couple of money events, but it was mostly a disappointment, i wish i had order 3 misfortune 1 all the time and i had used those points for something cooler, like more paths on my pretender or a dormant instead of an imprisoned.

Extended to 30 hour turn tick timer. I've noticed some players having issues with the 24hr and I'm personally moving house today and will have difficulties with internet next few weeks.

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>>154184268
I can't live without luck 3. Feels like Christmas every turn. RNGJesus I am yours to take.

Does scrying reveal magic sites?

>>154185480
No or Arco would be rolling in them.

>>154185480
No, there are dedicated remote site searching spells for that. Scrying just gives scouting info.

>>154185480

It doesn't reveal them, but it lets you see what sites the owner has found.

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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
>Ulm Waiting for 2h file
Vanheim 2h file received

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>>154186109
>ulm

Are mercenaries decent at expansion? or are they almost never worth it?

>>154186941
Depends on the merc.

>>154186941
Some are decent at expansion, others are more useful if you're trying to crack open a fort.

you can use the merc mages to site search.

>>154187081
>>154186941
To actually expand on my answer, some are Durand and his 12(?) heavy cavalry. That's obviously reasonably killy. Others are Bogrek and his foulspawn who are just Lance catchers.

>>154186941
They're pretty useful, if you can get the amphibious ones it's often worth it to grab some UW provinces, and a lot of the land ones are good for meatshielding and letting your expansion go further.

>>154186941

Heavy cavalry, elephants, crossbows, pikes are top tier.

Macemen and other infantry are ok.

Foulspawn and militias are shit.

Mages are great.

>>154165431
.rgb file needs to be renamed to fata_2.rgb. Might want to fix that.

So at the end of the day : Early spring year 2, 14 provinces (one throne province), 0 built forts (first fort is one turn away, second is 4???), conjuration 3, evocation 1.
EA Agartha, awakened Earth Snek, no mercs.
Still no clue about fort placement, also, do I build other stuff in forts? Gate House, roads, those things. Not talking about Lab and Temple.

>>154187939
Roads can potentially be worth it for mobility.

>>154187939

Thats a horrible horrible expansion with an awake pretender. Awake snake is 12 provinces in that time, you only got 2 with troops?

>Abysia Waiting for 2h file
>Agartha Waiting for 2h file
>Caelum Waiting for 2h file
>Man Waiting for 2h file
C'tis 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
>Jomon Waiting for 2h file
>Unexpected Nation Waiting for 2h file
>Marignon Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan 2h file received
Midgard 2h file received
Patala 2h file received
>Pythium Waiting for 2h file
>Ragha Waiting for 2h file
>R'lyeh Waiting for 2h file
>Bogarus Waiting for 2h file
>T'ien Ch'i Waiting for 2h file
>Ulm Waiting for 2h file
>Utgard Waiting for 2h file
>Xibalba Waiting for 2h file

If i use wish, can i type the name of a specific horro/archdevil and get it?
I've heard that Grigori fucks you up, but that's a case of same-name, right?

>>154188109
Last minute turn incoming just for you :^)

>>154188405
>case of same-name

No, Grigori was made to stop people summoning the best units in the game for the relatively cheap cost of 100 pearls.

>>154188089
I waited in capital for first turn and Snake was routed at least once. Also, obviously bad play, but I ignored starting army, instead waiting two turns for 10 troglodytes. Probably should send 5 troglodytes with starting army, then 10 with another commander and fuse both after losses. How much should I pack for single explore party? 10? 15?

>>154188620

It really depends on what you are fighting, sometimes you have weak indies and can get away with expanding with less, sometimes not.

>>154188670
Well, since it's troglodytes with trample. I guess ten for less than 30 light units (no barbs), with more as the situation requires?

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A and B (my armies) will move to C. (Enemy army)

A has 100 units, B has 50 units, C has 300 units.

I have reasons to believe that C either will stay on his tile, or move to D.

What can happen? Is it possible that if C is moving to D, they'll fight both my armies separately instead of at the same time? Cause I kinda need them working together but I'd rather not waste a turn.

>>154188921
Movement is simultaneous so your guys will come in the province at the same time and fight together whoever is there, unless there's something that interrupts part of your armies from moving before the movement phase. Also, the manual is your friend for turn phases.

>>154189095
Thanks that's all I needed to hear.

>>154188405

Look at the inspector.

The thing that appears in the "Unit Name" column is what wish summons by. So wishing for, e.g. "Furcas" the arch devil, will get you nothing.

If there are multiple things, it summons the one with the lowest ID (which you can see by ticking the "advanced" checkbox")

This is how the Grigori thing works. Grigori (shit) is Unity ID 1. The Grigori (less shit) are 2062-2067.

>>154189095
If he attacks one of your armies though I believe there's a chance the battle won't have all of your forces

>>154165431
Is she wearing a Japanese school sports uniform under her old timey thing? How does that work? And what's the orange thing? I thought that Rance lore was just a contrivance to justify Rance raping everyone.

>>154189864
That's a sentient creature, some sort of monster, belonging to a race obsessed with moe, they forced that girl to wear the uniform since it's moe. They also leave her sickness untreated because sick girls coughing blood is moe.

>>154187808
whoops I'll get on that

>>154190006
That's pretty funny. How does that tie into a war for Japan. Is sick waifu someone important?

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>>154189864
Rance actually has a pretty good setting and lore.

It just happens to also be an RPG about a rapist protagonist.

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>>154190107
She's a possible general you can recruit for your armies.(After curing her, I think) The cast is fairly diverse and colored. Senhime and Kenshin are best girls though.

I woud like to speak to Mari and Jomon and will keep myself in the chat for as much as I can this morning.

WEEBS GET OUT

>>154191012
Yomi is here to stay.

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>>154191012
No, Yomi runs this shit now.

>>154190664
I'm in it right now.

How do i into modless Lemuria?

>>154188620
I prefer great olms for expansion with EA agartha. 10 olms + Pale One Warrior blockers will pretty much decimate most indies with little scripting. Heavy cav pronvices are rendered easy with the Olms on "Fire cavalry".

>>154191012

If you think Rance lore is not relevant to /domg/, then you clearly do not know anything about what the gods are like in Rance lore.

>>154191314

Take an Awake god with at least D3 in order to be able to cast magic and summon your national mages. If you take a Dormant or Imprisoned, you're gonna have to empower one of your starting commanders.

Expand fast, build many forts, move all of your ghosts into your capital. Stay there while your lands are taken by your enemies, because ghost romans are completely fucking worthless as troops as soon as anyone can deploy any sort of evocation or Antimagic.

Grand Lemurs are pretty good casters, but die to Magic Duel and you can't afford to deploy a lot. They'll come BACK from that, but that's still after you've lost the battle they were fighting in.

what if it was 2000 sexy catgirls in a fort

>>154192297
I would siege it.

Is there a way to generate a random map that is not like a globe?

>>154165431
I joined as Ulm. Be prepared to see a lot of vampires, and me failing to use them effectively.

>>154193870
how can you fail at using vampires effectively?

>>154193920
Because I am bad?
D2B2 doesn't sound that impressive to me.
D3 is leagues better and B2 can barely be used in combat as far as I know.

Sure they are immortal but that requires friendly dominions so it's not very good offensively.

What are some tactics LA Caelum can execute with some degree of reliability? I guess A random Harab Elder can cast Storm by spending an extra gem such that cap-only Seraphs and A random Harab Seraphs (1/5 chance) can cast Stormpower->Thunder Strike but what else? Fire Randoms can cast Bane Fire Darts and D randoms can cast Shadow Blast but what else? All Harab Seraphs can cast Parting of Soul but thaumaturgy seems like a generally inferior path to research. E random Harab Elders can start doing earth things (like Strength of Giants on Raven Guards) as well as crafting Earth Boots to enable E1s to start doing so but that's also 1/5ths chance on cap-only STR and there's only so much earth gems. As I see it, most of your mages end up fairly impotent.

Are there any major tactics that I'm missing? Or is LA Caelum all about abusing your strategic mobility until you can start summoning Yatas and Yazads to do the heavy lifting?

>>154194073
It's excellent defensively though, they can blood hunt too. Have faith in your vamps

>>154194073

At super-late-game, B2 can still cast Damage Reversal, which is a pretty nasty extra layer of defence.

But yeah, Ulmpires definitely lose out for not being able to cast Soul Vortex without a gem.

They're still Invuln 25 regenerating Enc0 immortal fliers though, so they're definitely not BAD.

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>>154186464
ikr :^)

>>154194218
Winds of Death on your Harab Elders

>>154194073
>not very good offensively
This kind of thinking is a trap.
44 slaves for a decent flying stealthy immortal invulnerable D and B caster? On LA Ulm, a top tier blood hunting nation? Immortality is just icing, not a reason to not use them offensively.

Anyone got blood access? I'd like to buy some items, for Ermor removing purposes.

>>154194706
yup
how come people see immortal tag and think it is a liability?

>>154194287
Sure, but you can't win by staying alive until late game when someone with 3 caps starts knocking.
>>154194370
I didn't think of that, then again I'll have Vampire Lords by then, of course I'll still have vampire counts left.

>>154194997
Then you can never win.

>>154194810
mentalism, people think they risk the vampire outside their dominion it's a fool errand unconciouslly

>>154194810
It's not a liability, but for balance they make the units weaker overall than it would be without it so if you're not using that ability it's bad.

The only reason vampire counts have it and are still relatively cheap is because LA Ulm would suck without them.

Can you assassinate indie commanders so that the indies will autorout, or will it keep spawning new commanders automatically?

>>154195117
I can never win if what? I just said I can't just use them defensively.

>>154195509
Then use them for other things? I'm not sure what's your problem here, besides only seeing drawbacks to everything.

>>154195592
Of course I will use them offensively, I just meant it's hard to use immortality offensively.

From the beginning I just said I was bad at using them effectively.

>>154195452
Yes.

>>154195452

You can. Indie populations are fixed, they only look like they change because scouting reports are unreliable.

It's not a reliable way of expanding, but it's a useful suppliment to troop expansion.

why are scouts so unreliable at counting?

dont tell me theyre losing count while doing it. get a stick and draw the tallies in the mud you fucking shit

i will never pick you as a partner for mario party if you cant win the count the boo games

>>154191349
Do you spam Mind Blast with Olms or go closer for life drain?

What are the best spammable, non-blood summons when i have a fuckton of gems?
I was thinking Pale riders for decent troops, spammability and no upkeep.

>>154196446
Well, depends on the game type you have lots of and other factors (like what you are facing), obviously.

Lamias are my personal favourite, though, they're cheap, use a relatively undesirable gem type and are very potent with buffs (since they have life draining attack and regen). Fire snakes are another, there isn't too many uses for lots of fire gems and they're pretty good.

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Are these things worth a bless?
I'm thinking of giving them W9 using the cheap Olm pretender

>>154195452
Yes, and you just made me realize I'm an idiot and could have taken an important province ages ago, fuck.

>>154196318

Because a single province is approximately the size of Switzerland, and you're sending one dude out to check how many soldiers there are in it, when most of them are wandering around getting drunk, doing peasant things, et cetera.

They don't spend the entire month standing around in a field waiting for your army to show up.

>>154196686
Give them N9

>>154196686

They are why MA Agartha always takes N9.

>>154196362
Mind Blast exclusively.

>>154196686
Yes. However, water blessing doesn't do much of anything (their offensive power is still garbage and extra defence doesn't increase their durability by any noteworthy amount as their defence is low and they are size 3 and kinda invulnerable to mundane weapons already through sheer protection value), the premier statue bless is N9 and you can also take E4-9 for scaling summons as well as boosting your mages and sacred expanders (the armour actually isn't bad on the statues either).

What the fuck do i do with a couatl? I paid 40 gems for this piece of shit

>>154197913
>N3>S3 >doesn't know what to do with it
weak shit man

>>154197913

Give it a skullcap. Use Lizard Shamen to communion it up into Master Enslave.

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>>154184809

>>154198069
That's 32 lizard shamans.

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>>154184809

>>154198309

Or sixteen with PoTS.

>>154198408
or 8 with LotNS

>>154198548

Four if you give the Couatl a coin as well!

>>154198675
For that you need E2 as C'tis.

>>154198408
>>154198548

>3rd turn Master Enslave

Enjoy everything going wrong before then.

>>154196959
What's the ratio for olms/pale ones then? If I read tooltip right, mind blast doesn't deal shit, "just" paralyses.

>>154198928

Both PoTS and LotNS are turn-zeroable with items. C'tis has zero use for a bless in EA or MA, so taking an S6E4 pretender to make up the items you need in year three isn't a major issue, and gets you Rings as well.

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>>154198928
>not having slave matrixes
>not having someone else cast LotNS
>not abusing commander script order
>not luring enemies into attacking you first so you get turn 1 casting

>>154199006
I'm not really sure on the ratio, but I just recruit as many pale ones as income can support while recruiting five great olms + a mage per turn. You'll need to get a feel for it yourself

And mind blast does deal damage, its the psychic damage portion of the attack. It's 1 damage but it's unaffected by armor and thanks to DRN and crits, can frequently deal more.

>>154199453
Wait disregard psychic damage critting, it already ignores armor.

>>154199050

>Both PoTS and LotNS are turn-zeroable with items

Couatls don't have hands and a banner is another 30 pearls.

>>154199061

Still can't do it before the 3rd turn with a Couatl. Still need it to cast Communion Master and then Power of the Spheres.

>>154199687
>forgetting about master matrix

Alright, considering Ur has now staled twice in a row, I'm going to begin looking for a sub for him (or, if one can't be found before next turn, someone to set AI).

Or, some form of response by the current Ur.

>>154199687

Turn 1, Four Lizard Shamen, one of which has a Banner of the North Star, cast Communion Slave. One Couatl with a Skullcap, a Coin and a Crystal Matrix (S3 +2 boosters, +2 Communion boost, +1 PotNS), casts Master Enslave.

Why did Marignon go AI?

>>154185695
joke on you it's rolling in them anyway!

>>154185480
i am pretty damn sure there is at least one scrying spell that let you see any site that has already be revealed ( previously sitesearched by opponent) in the province along with the army.
i am not sure if all the scry spells do that, but probably they do.
it doesn't reveal any new site, it's not sitesearching.

>>154186941
almost always yes;
if you can already exhaust your early gold in *good* expanding troops then only few of them are worthy, and the chance of losing the bid (which return the gold but leave you without having spent it in troops for one turn) makes it almost never worth it.

>>154196686
>1 attack, not even amazing
>1 attack per square
>defense is mediocre anyway
>slow as shit anyway

F4B4 might do an equivalent job at increasing their damage for a cheaper price.
i'd go for a N9, possible E9 if you want to meme with 27 protection

>>154200778
Ahem, they're size 3, so 2 atk per square.

Still about the offensive power of human militia though. Or the Pale Ones they are based on.

>>154199453
>>154199604
>psychic damage portion
You mean it gets STR bonus? Also, I've hit a chokepoint in AI game as Agartha. Engravers aren't that good for anything but researching, Oracles can get really random on non-earth paths and cap-only. How do I use those mages offensively? Maw of the Earth? Just asking cause I had Xibalba and Atlantis (i think) left, and my march really slowed down. Trying out other nations now.

>>154200778

It is worth noting. That HP value?

Is BEFORE the MA Agartha "Extra HP for constructs" dominion effect is factored. They do make for an amazing tar pit. Theyr'e not strong offensively, but damn can they tank.

Fomoria Oracle with S? B? for Horror shenanigans? Good/bad?

>>154201703
Why/10.

>>154201986
I've meant Lanka.

If you fags don't do your turns faster I swear to dog I'm gonna join another 5 games to get my dose and 20 turns later I'll be overwhelmed and start stalling in half of them.

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>tfw playing LA Atlantis as a Ghost king
>tfw actually using undeads instead of my troops
I mean, the ice-guards and sacreds are fine and dandy (and cheap as fuck), but i just can't pass on the SKELETON SWARM. LA Atlantis labrats are amazing at research with Magic 3 and allow me to spam skeletons very easily with the slow to recruit mages instead.

>>154201703
Fomoria is one of the prime examples of a nation that can do everything it wants to without its pretender, but whose pretender can still provide advantages in a variety of ways. It can take an awake, a bless, raw scales, or even a rainbow.

That said - s/b is not going to be very helpful. You don't have native bloodhunters, so your slave income will be incredibly limited. Blood is an off-path for an oracle anyways, meaning you waste a lot of design points to take it.

You CAN take an oracle if you want to do rings and astral end game for whatever reason, but you'd be relying on indies / arcane probing to find sites, so your actual astral income will be iffy or expensive to get going.

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The game didn't even started but guys of Kichikuo_Domg, I'll be at the university for the next 10 hours so I'll take some time to take my turn once it starts.
If it's the case i'll do double
Just doing this before someone spam shit of the turn status

>>154202162
Oh. I guess you could, then, but horrors really work when you have a lot of casters. Having just one is fairly unimpressive.

Lanka also REALLY likes a bless, so unless you're taking W9 on the oracle I don't think it'll work very well. Even then, I wouldn't put blood on it, because it's expensive in design points and blood is relatively easy to empower. A W9/Sx oracle wouldn't be the worst, I don't think.

>>154202271
That's pretty cool thematically.

>Atlantis fell to mind-eaters
>the few remaining retreated to icy waters and sought out the power required to enact vengeance from a dark, forgotten god
>their answer : death
>the mind-eaters cannot eat that which is mindless

>>154200985
>You mean it gets STR bonus?
No whenever damage is dealt, the game rolls a 2d6 exploding for both attacker and the defender. The difference is added to the damage dealt.

>How do I use those mages offensively? Maw of the Earth? Just asking cause I had Xibalba and Atlantis (i think) left, and my march really slowed down. Trying out other nations now.

Fire Readers can cast Conjure Earthpower to get to E3F1 for magma eruption. The water ones have access to Rust mist. Death ones will have to make do with Destruction, Blade wind and Earthmeld/Maws of the Earth. They can also all cast Strength of Giants, Legions of Steel, and Marble Warriros. Your cap mages can cast Army of Gold/Lead and Earthquake.

That said you should also be summoning magma children with Rhuax pact.

>>154202401
People don't spam the turn status before the 12 hour mark except for Turn 1, and even then they won't spam it until after the first day.

>>154202652
Ironically, mindblasting and mental attacks are good against skelly-spammers if they didn't bring sufficient chaff with brains, since otherwise it'll target the mages.

>>154202652
Yeah, played this way i really find them my favourite nation, and has great flavour too. It's one of the rare cases in which i create a pretender both coll for my taste AND good at what it must do.

>>154202730
>The water ones have access to Rust mist
It's shit. Use them as E mages for all those other nice things you pointed out. E mages are good.

>>154202736
>Ironically, mindblasting and mental attacks are good against skelly-spammers if they didn't bring sufficient chaff with brains, since otherwise it'll target the mages.

Yeah but this way you only have to stack up magic resistance on the commanders. Like putting stronger metal in the parts of the armor that are more likely to be targeted by blows.

>>154202861
True. And since all of your dudes use bronze, you can use Ironbane if you want to rust shit.

>>154202345
>>154202590
How would I spread bless with no level 3 priests and only one prophet? Priest spam?
>>154202730
Magma children got fucked by cold weather. Marble/Lead/Gold was too far for that point.

>>154202736
>>154202401
I honestly turnspam a lot, but only do it when someone is the last one to send a turn, doesn't doubleturn, and then is the last one to send the NEXT TURN.


That makes me so mad.

I also turnspam when 90% of the people sent the turn in the first 6 hours but there are 2 guys who wait until the last 5 minutes to do it, making all of us wait.

>>154203647
>How would I spread bless with no level 3 priests and only one prophet? Priest spam?
For one indy priest spam is good for Lanka since they can all reanimate longdead.
Secondly, you can communion up your blood priests to reach H3 for divine blessing. A Kala-Muhka sabbath master + 2 sabbath slaves can cast divine blessing.
Really late in the game you can summon Madehas which are H3s, autocast Darkness, and have bunch of other powerful paths.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Kichikuo_Domg

gogogogogogo

I need to ask for a 12 hour extension for Olathe, Latus 3, WeWuzPantrokrators (even though it's shit) and SparklyThrones.

I can't guarantee I can send in the next turn for the next turn before tomorrow at 24:00 CET.
I sent in my turns already so it should be fine but if any new turns come in before 24:00 CET today I will need an extension.

Can you extend the turn timer to 26 hours? It's not urgent, but we're definitely getting timer creep and it's a bit late in the game to expect double turns

Finall Call for Kichikuo domg, will start in 30 mins incase you fucked up your pretender

>>154205802
But it's full, anon.

>>154205351
once turn hosts I"ll give you the 12 hours

>>154205831
some people fuck up their pretender or send in a place holder, this is there chance to fix their shit

>>154205802
>>154205831
Stupid-san, he means that if someone sent a filler pretender and is working on improving it, they get to send it fast before we start.

>>154204230
Speaking of communion, how much do I lose by foregoing it/not using it everywhere/maximising it like described earlier in thread for C'tis? Communions gives me 2 things: fatigue pool and path boosts. But for early/midgame (which I'm trying to work out) there aren't many spells with high paths and fatigue. So until level 7 research I should be fine?

>>154206132
No, it's great for spamming many spells, such as stellar cascades or a spell with paths shared by all casters. Communions don't need to cast high lvl spells to be effective.

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Sleep well lil' skell

>>154205351
>Latus 3

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>154206409
100PD

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>>154206409
>won't even send 3 parties with 130+ skeletons each as a greeting gift

He clearly doesn't love you.


I also feel the need to bring back attention to this >>154194727
before I go to sleep.

how to stop LA abysia lategame assassins and horrors?
consider ragha for the matchup

>>154208110
Uhh, what do you need blood for as Man? Black Hearts or something?

>game failed to start due to map image fucking

uggh, give me a little bit guys, gonna do a little tomfoolery

>>154208110

What do you need?

>>154208130
Rush them early-game with your OP sacreds.

>>154208220
Change the name of the map image to fata_2 nerd. read the fucking error message.

>>154208110

Come tot he chat we can talk

>>154208262
It is already mid-late game
we are taking down atlantis together now
But we will soon compete for thrones

>>154208273
I had had to fix something anyway. uploading now hoe

>>154208404
Malakal desires your deathbasket.

Still looking for an Ur sub.

Alternatively, may the original Ur please stand? Speak out? etc.

>>154208579
>>154208273
>>154208220
I did what you suggested and tried something different and they both failed. Emailed llama lord, sorry guys

>>154208947
What exactly is the problem?

>>154208130
Flying buddy-guards are the best bet. They obviate the need for a gem (the usual answer) and they engage a leech caster or whatever right away

>>154208947
Edit the .map file and reupload it and the image

>>154209109
The problem is that the map file wants something3.rgb and the actual image is something2.rgb

>>154209301
>>154209192
I did that and it still failed

>>154208130
Oh, and for horrors -
Bring extra gems on armies small enough where they will trigger gem spending (including teleports, they can trigger gem spending twice before combat), include an anti-magic-being script or thug with your armies to remove horrors without undue losses, don't bother leaving more than 1 PD outside of forts unless he's also using very light raiding parties since even lesser horrors don't often give a fuck about anything less than excessive amounts, raid him back twice as hard (you can), and use fire elementals for an easy answer on your own raiders to prevent them from being magic phase sniped

>>154185269

>mfw 16 turns in as Luck 3 agartha
>best event I got was +300 gold a turn
>has gotten significantly more barbarian attacks and other fuck you events than lucky ones

I agree it does feel like christmas

the kind of christmas you cry on

>>154208239
I'm in no rush to get the items, so hit me up with a message in-game, I'll respond with what I need. Be sure it's gonna be bloody

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You have 5 seconds to prove you are not Malakal.
Fast! They are about to Gang bang you.

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>>154210612

>>154210612
>gangbanging a player by reputation
wew. I mean, Malakal's a decent player, but not uncommonly so. There's at least 5 other good players on domg

>>154211030
Hes pretty shit if you just call him out on his jewing and get actual deals

>>154211103

He really is a turbojew when it comes to trades.

>>154211410
As an actual Jew with some relatives that go to synagogue almost every Saturday and others that fit the range of stereotypes ranging from balding to Jew-fros, Malakal is the most Jewish individual I know.

>>154211410
Malakal's jewing i self destructive to some extent.

>>154210612
>>154210807
>>154210962
>>154211030
>>154211103
>>154211410
>>154212539
>>154212690
All of these are me.

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Ulm is officially stalling, how we gonna solve this?

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Post hours.

>>154213196
>launching Dominions from Steam
>any year

>>154213342
>not getting all the achievements, including 100% walkthrough and NG+
>not getting premium nations DLC
>not playing on official Illwinter™ servers

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>>154213196
Oh hey, i'm only 999 hours behind you

>>154213773
This. So many fucking poorfags playing this game recently.

>>154213196
I probably have something like that too but I use the PBEM manager, so no Steam.

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>>154213828
>you have 3 friends who play Dominions 4

>>154213884
>>154213773
Bitch, please, I have the Lifetime Illwinter Premium account straight from Illwinter dot com. I bet you don't even hang out on the 'Some links' secret forum

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>not getting independent color pack DLC for only 4.99$
Shiggy diggy

How do you #thuglife it if you don't have access to fire/earth or nature for reinvig? Feels like you'll be fukt.

>>154213167
Give me all their stuff somehow since i'm bordering the fuckers and they'd said they would help with skellington remov.

>>154214736
>what are vans?

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>>154213196
Is this a few?

>>154215947
Fuck off, nick.

Not-bats if your gonna give up at least have the decency to AI yourself. Until then please avoid stalling again

I've turtled like a motherfucker and i'm left with only 4 cities (with my researchers inside, but i finally got my arcane nexus up and wish at the same time, so i have my Wish engine finally up.
However, as soon i put the Arcane Nexus with a good overcast, all the other players are trying to gangrape me/finish me off before i come back with infinite wishes, since they seem to not be able to dispel it for a good time, since it's been up for 4 turns (and i have like 300 astral pears gained from those turns only).

Now, what would be the most useful wishes to reconquer land/survive/slowly gain breathing space? I'm against the clock, so any turn of a useless wish is gonna cost me dearly.

>>154217190
10 armageddons.

>>154217323
Wouldn't it kill population rather than troops though?
Sure, their income (and mine too, but who cares, i've researched my core spells, so my researchers can die) will tank and a good chunk of troops wil desert, but i'm afraid their mages could be enough to fuck me over.
Isn't there something to wish for that would make invading my 4 cities a real hell?

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We did it lads

>>154217554
It deals damage to everything like a global EQ. It's very good against nations like Sceleria with a bunch of human mages and squishy troops.

Also, fill your cities with chaff. LOTS of chaff. Wolves, birds, that sort of thing.

>>154217734
Sorry, global EQ was a bit specious. I don't remember exactly how much damage it deals, but I'm almost certain that flying units can still die to it.

>>154217554
10 Armageddons.
Remember you have wish, you don't need gold anymore. Or you can wish for it.

You can wish for the R'lyeh hero with S4 if you need another wish caster.

>>154217865

15 AP, to 20% of all commanders/troops in the game.

So giants and similarly tank troops/commanders can actually survive it fairly reliably.

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>>154217648
>Malakal

>>154219392
What is that even from? I've seen it all over the place, but reverse searching it just gets me more 4chan threads

>>154217648
No! No more questions. No more worship. Time to run. Time to scream. Time to die!

>>154219468
Just more obnoxious /v/anheim namefaggotry.

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>>154219468
>reverse searching it just gets me more 4chan threads
You got bubbled, broheim.

>>154219805
Thanks.

>>154211030
>There's at least 5 other good players on domg
Name the other 4.
t. not Malakal

>>154220521
okofire

>>154220521

Coolstory, Sumwon, Nicknight, Lambert, Sy, Carlix etc

A lot of great people.

>>154220757
T. Okofire's mum

Dominions is 20% skill 80% time you are willing to put down testing shit and looking at the inspector.

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>>154220784
>Lambert

>>154220784
Who /tooscrubtogetnoticedbysempai/ here?

>>154221016
If you play 30 games a day, eventually something has to go right.

Alright lets do it like this instead: Who here has won a PBEM? Who here has won a PBEM with an objectively shit nation?

1 of both for me.

>>154221082
I don't hang out in the Steam circlejerk group, so even if I was the best player on /domg/ I still wouldn't get noticed.

Feels good, man.

>>154221230
I won a lot of PBEMs and blitzes. I dunno about shit nations, I usually don't play them. Maybe I won a blitz as Mari that one time or something.

>>154221230
Does Yomi count as objectively shit? What about LA Man?

All the other nations I've won with were mid-tier or better.

>>154221473
I think Yomi is mid-tier.

Man is objectively shit though, by all accounts.

>>154221606
yomi is Low-mid tier, just aboev being crap level

>>154221606
Without Summod? Just slightly above terrible.

>All these non-samurai baka gaijin in this very thread

LA Yomi is fucking amazing tier. They can singlehandedly go up against any other nation in the game, no matter what age, and win. They only lose so much because people like gangbanging them.

>>154222049
If it's LA it's not Yomi, is it, you mongoloid?

>>154222049
>LA Yomi
>calls others baka gaijin
baited

>>154221606
LA Man isn't that bad. They have a solid early- and midgame. Extremely predictable and easily countered if you have access to the right magic, but solid nonetheless.

Their weaknesses are that their great ranged troops are easily countered, that they only have a single mage worth recruiting, and that they have no real lategame options. If you use a pretender to cover their weaknesses a bit and give them some lategame options, they are easily mid-tier. For example, a pretender with D access opens up a lot of options for them (and Judges, while shit for most purposes, can at least be used to sitesearch if you get a D random)..

>>154221230
I've won one PBEM as a good nation and am about to win another window that same nation under surprisingly similar circumstances, so , er, go me, I guess.

>>154222287
>Solid early- and midgame

They have no early game.

>>154222389
*with that same nation. Fuggin autocorrect

>>154222403
Tower Guards let them expand with little to no losses against most targets.

They have crossbows to fuck shit up at range, and unlike regular crossbows they can keep fighting if the enemy manages to close the distance.

>>154222538
?

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>send some items as part of an agreement
>end turn
>start up game again, gotta be sure I sent it to the right nation
>ok
>couple of hours later
>did I send it to the right nations? better check to be REALLY sure

How do I deal with autism?

>>154222719

Join more games until you're too busy doing turns to recheck turns more than once.

>>154222719
kys

>>154222779
this

>>154222664
>This million resources cap-only sacred is good guys!
>You can make like three of them in your first turn!

>>154222779
I did this. Then I got to late game in all of them. Then I took a break from dominions. Now I'm doing it again. Send help.

>>154222838
Tower Guards, you moron. Not Wardens.

>>154222838
Are you on the devil's weed again, or do you not know Man's units?

Also, I recently discovered while doing expansion testing for two completely different nations that you can easily get a LOT of resources in LA just based on how big the populations are. Dom 6 C'tis got to max tomb guard recruitment by turn 4 with sloth 3.

Land nations are you doing your part and forting as many coastal provinces as you can? The fish stay in the bowl till there's a winner!

>>154221230
I won an EA Newbie game as Xibalba. Had no idea they were so strong then, I just really liked the idea of blind bats worshipping the sun. Never summoned much more than half a dozen Ozelotls.

>>154223772
Xibalba is really cool.

One of my biggest issues with Dominions is that all the coolest nations are either really weak or really strong, while most of the bland shit is more balanced.

Sorry for the stale, guys. I must've accidentally sent one of my .2h files from another pbem twice and failed to catch it. Your orders will be processed this turn instead.

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Time to rape the world, and it's only year 6.

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>>154225130
*teleports behind you*
psssh, nothing....personal...kid
*casts dust to dust*

>>154225130
>52 HP
>17 MR
At least give him some good equips so he's less likely to die to a single lucky mage.

>>154225130
>Not Immortal
Enjoy having those paths drop. Also efficient gem usage desu

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>An unexpected event has occurred
>Province income +20
>Province income is 12

>>154225587
it's reduced by unrest and maybe by order/production/growth scales ( i am not sure on that).

>>154225587
Base province income vs province income after scales/unrest.

>>154229114
Nice.

>>154225130
>Just SP things

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Don't mind me.

Just carrying these Bane Venom Charms to page 10's capital.

Do the different "shield" spells stack with each other?
Like ice shield, water shield, astral shield?

>>154229982
Yes.

Is there a way to see all gold expenditures that are happening in the current turn? Constructions, recruitment, defense purchases, etc?

>>154230163
>expecting good interface usability from Illfraud

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Is Dominions an ancap paradise?

>>154231224
Absolutely. Also someone should make a few of those in Dominions flavour.

Does shock damage or any electricity related spells have altered effects underwater or is that just not a thing in dom?

>>154232548
Not all lightning spells work underwater, but orb lightning and lightning bolt work a normal

>>154196686
N9B9 makes an amazing tarpit.