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AWAY'd >>153850268

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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First for K O S M
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Reccomendations for

Stake Driver build
&
Rifle Spear build

?
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Do the female Knight's Leggings turn into a dress, is it pants like the male version?
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>>154032613
They turn into a dress I believe.
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>>154032580
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Anyone willing to take turns backstabbing the Defiled keeper with me?

Bl:25
Pass: bbg
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>>154032750
Saved
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>>154032697
Fuck.
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>>154032905
If you want classy lady pants, just use Maria's Set.
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>>154032881
Haven't seen this one. Saved, as well.
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Is Bloodborne redpilled?
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>>154032905
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>>154032905
At least the Knight's Dress looks roomy and comfy compared to the other dresses
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>>154032997
I'm trying to find something that resembles cammies. I'm thinking the baggy Yamamura pants.
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>>154033229
Those would work pretty great.
Also, Male Knight Set with Space Broccoli Rune looks fucking hilarious.
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>>154033129
thanks.saved that one as well lol
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I'd like some advice.

I'm doing an arcane build with the Kos Parasite as my arcane weapon, a fire Saw Cleaver for beasts, and a Tonitrus for kin.

Anybody got any suggestions for a bolt weapon other than the Tonitrus? Not that it's bad, just wondering if there's something else.

This gem/chalice stuff is immensely confusing, but I'm getting the hang of it.

Also, I've been doing some research and apparently a Cold Abyssal Gem +22.5% Arc is the shit. Would it be a good idea to replace one of my other Radials (Arc scaling +65 OR 23.1% Arc) with it?
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>>154033852
bolt Reiterpallasch
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>>154033852
Saif
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>>154032818
plz...?
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>>154032452
Steak can/should either go 50 STR/25 SKL or base STR/SKL reqs and 50 ARC with elemental gems. For a Rifle Spear build you should go 50 SKL and 25 BLT if you really want to use the shotgun form. If you're not bothered with the bullets you should probably go 50 STR/25 SKL with heavy abyssals or 50 SKL/25 STR with just normal 27.2's
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http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Bosses
Under the "Boss Defenses" tab, does physical mean slash?
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>>154034272
>Weaknesses: None
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>>154034272
slash / serrated, yes
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Stay at BL89 with 40VIT. or go to BL99 with 50VIT?
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>>154033974
Ebin :^)
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>>154034625
Why would you want to stay at 89? Just go 99 and call it a day.
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>>154033142
It's Indigo pilled.
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>>154034698
>implying bolt + thrust damage wouldn't destroy any ayylmao
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>>154033852
Replace Saw Cleaver with the Saw Spear and the Tonitrus with a Bold gemmed Church Pick and you're golden.
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>>154034880
If you wan't Thrust it should be the Church Pick.
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>>154034880
Oh you're actually retarded. You can't make any weapons with BLT scaling elemental. This includes the Reiter, Rifle Spear, Chikage, etc.
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>>154032818
Never mind
Cheesed him with parry spamm and poison knives
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>>154035521
>Reiter
>BLT scaling
>not able to elementally infuse

http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Reiterpallasch

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/805577-bloodborne/71595949
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Could anyone help me with Orphan of Kos? Ringing at the hut lantern, password iuiui
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>>154036529
I will, give me a bit to boot up.
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>>154036585
Thanks. Better to use fire or bolt paper?
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>>154035912
>I don't know how to read
Literally from the wiki you fucking posted
>Despite having Arcane scaling listed, the weapon cannot be converted into Fire/Bolt/Arcane damage from blood gem fortification (though flat elemental damage gems will still apply).
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>>154036876
>(though flat elemental damage gems will still apply)
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>>154037454
So your grand plan is to use flat bolt elemental gems as your main source of damage against kin? Over using the Tonitrus, Church Pick, or Saif which can actually make use of high ARC? What a fucking genius.
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>>154037617
If that's what the original poster wants to do, then sure
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I dunno y u anon are faggots but you can bolt paper the reiter derp

On a 50STR build it was fairly simple to trick r1 spam OOK, every third hit staggers him.
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I need someone to help boop the Defiled Hotdog's nose with me
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>>154038118
what bl and vit?
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>>154038229
BL 25
with 20 VIT
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>Moon Presence does its "take you down to critically low HP" AoE twice in a row and kills me and another co-operator
Was that allowed to happen, or did host latency just straight up fuck us?
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>>154038326
No wonder you're having trouble.
Just pump more vit to 43 and you will probably have an easier time.
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>>154038480
Not him, but is 50 Vit the optimum? I remember some anon saying last thread that it was practically required for end chalices.
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>>153994285
>>153999639
>Sometimes Bone Ash Hunters drop radial Arc gems in Ihyll also if you get a Pthumerian Elder in Ihyll he drops Arc+65 scaling gems.
What do I do about Triangle or Waning? Not just wait for an off-shape drop I hope...
Are Scaling ones even actually any good?

There's no mob besides the Bone Ash Hunter by chance?
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>off of work for the next three days
Anybody need a co-op buddy?
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>>154038480
Then i wouldn't be able to co-op with randoms in CY.
I can get him down to 15% but then his bite combos get longer and longer and longer it's hard to pinpoint when hes gonna stop for the boop.
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>>154038442
>Beckoner calls me and one other guy to help fight Orphan
>It reaches Stage 2
>three fucking lightning bolts in a row
Sometimes it just happens.
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>>154038856
Don't hit his nose, then.

It takes forever but it's a lot safer to hit his flanks. If you can get him low by hitting his face, then by all means start that way though.
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>>154038667
I did fine on 40 vit, 50 vit with hp or def runes will allow you to survive some of the bosses "ohko" moves that you're supposed to dodge neways.

Tbh i think the only thing you need is a +9 weapon with relevant gems and powers of observation with the reflexes to pull off what your brain wants to do in that moment.
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The Hunters Craft trophy is glitched and wont pop for me. Anyone know a fix? I know i have them all
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>>154039135
>not hitting his nose THEN immediately breaking his legs
>>154038856
Learn his "end bites" then. I think at that phase in the fight he only has two animations to end on after the bites. Also backstep moves on his uhhh "fast and furious chomps" work pretty well.
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>>154039325
You might need the DLC Hunter Tools as well.
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>>154039325
>>154039449
I've heard that this is the case.
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>>154039449
No you don't.
That anon is probably confused and hasn't taken proper inventory.
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>>154039449
>might need the dlc
How the hell did everyone else get the trophy then before the dlc hit?
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>>154039810
No, the idea was that having the DLC changes the requisites for the trophy.

I believe there is a precedent for that, but I can't remember what game set it. I think having AotA for DaS changed Knight's Honor to include Manus' soul weapon.
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>>154039810
>game comes out
>people get all the Tools
>DLC comes out
>list of tools gets updated
It's not hard to figure out.
It's like when you 100% a game and then DLC comes out and your achievements go down to 75%.
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Why couldn't they have programmed in:
When the Hotdog becomes too aggressive, it starts taking massive damage from whiplash.
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>>154040415
>>154040353
Wtf u on about dlc always has a seperate set of trophies.
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>acquire memewheel
>acquire memewhirl

What makes these weapons special? I can see the wheel's buff, coupled with the right arcane gems, being a total fucking nuke.

What about the saw? Is it just that the saw mode has easily procc'd multihit attacks? I notice rallying is much faster.
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>>154039325
Messenger's Gift too?
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>>154040949
The Whirlimeme's tricked L2 absolutely trivializes some encounters.
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>>154040949
>Has good Rally Potential
>Is Big and Heavy giving descent reach and great stun capabilities on larger enemies.
>Still a descently fast weapon despite its weight.
>Transformed state does Serrated DMG which cripples Beast type enemies
>Transformed L2 is stun-lock's gallore and can provide great beasthood build-up

The only thing against it is the Untransformed stat which deals Blunt DMG which alot of enemies aren't exacly weak to.
Meaning you'll spend most of your time without access to your gun.

But thats why it's mainly focused on PvE.
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>>154040883
Not always.
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>>154041579
>>154041628
I just realize the L2 could be held down. Does seem lackluster for PvP, PvE godsend.
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>>154041693
In bbs case they're seperated >>154039325
Is just another player crying glitch instead of wolf.
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Why does the cutter have such low rally?
I understand the whip since the range is heug but the club should get a wee bit more rally.
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>>154042535
From didn't want a weapon with such great SFX, style, and damage to have high rally as well.
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>>154039582
>>154039585
I have all base and dlc tools and no I checked my inventory.
When i got the messengers gift I didnt even have them all and it popped up, but when i actually got them all and checked my trophies it says i still havent earned it.
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Chalice dungeons should have been:
>fewer
>longer
>with fewer lampposts
>harder bosses
>more debuffs
>More bosses, bigger and more difficult. Not 5 watchers in a row or in some cases just regular mobs with a health bar
>fewer red spider swarms what the fuck
>more rewards per dungeon (reward rooms aren't just more ritual materials)

Chalice dungeons are too short and grindy and would have been amazing if they were treating as group raids with greater potential for complete failure.
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>>154043598
>>harder bosses
Please no.

There should be at least one dungeon with a randomized buff / debuff, like Test Your Luck in Mortal Kombat X. That'd be pretty cool.
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>>154043598
All chalices need is visual variety instead of the exact same shit with filters. That's most of the problem is being visually disinterested, there's nothing to look at and that's a huge problem in a game where everything is stylistically excellent. If Pthumeru, Loran and the Hintertombs each had a unique style, then there'd be much less of a problem. They don't need to be WoW dungeons or some shit.
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>>154043954
Most of the bosses aren't inherently difficult because of their movesets, mostly just because they're damage buffed for 1hkos. Exception being maybe the Abhorrent Beast if you choose not to poison cheese.

I'm thinking dungeons that encourage players to group up, form actual hunter teams.
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>>154044193
>I'm thinking dungeons that encourage players to group up, form actual hunter teams.

Unless there's a much wider variety of NPC summons for non PS+ members, then no, I don't want WoW raids. Help is optional, ideally you're in there yourself surviving the threat.
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>>154044192
Not a direct solution, but fewer dungeons does mean more visual variety. I agree completely though, a large reason the dungeons are so tedious is because there isn't anything to explore and no sense of anything in the environment being significant. That's strange given that the dungeons are canonically where the history of Bloodborne is richest. Roots of blood ministration, fallen civilizations, all that, and those things just aren't presented well.

>>154044351
I hear you. What I'd like is a happy medium between the current "Summon to trivialize bossfight" and "get rekt solo" deal with Souls bosses, which is obviously player dependent.

So a solo offline player could summon decent NPCs or take on the boss alone for a challenge and win if skilled/geared enough, or a group of less skilled players could attempt the same and still be challenged.

If that's doable in terms of enemy design.
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>>154041873
>Whirly L2
>Lackluster in PvP

H O T

P I Z Z A
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>>154042747
Might be telling us "u have no rally with cuttah! Long range only so they cant rally off YOU."
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>>154044882
>get rekt solo
But anon that only applies if you're shit and cannot learn enemy movesets.
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>>154045813
Okay but that is maybe the one scenario that can be pulled off, he was literally stuck in a cage.
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>>154045813
>tfw no headpiece that resembles a chef hat
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>>154045981
Right, so bosses now are die on your own until you learn the fight, or just summon someone and waltz your way through. That's the state of co-op, excuding fun runs with your buddies.

I'm suggesting bosses where co-op is the norm, solo play is for skilled players facing challenges. So bosses with mechanics meant for teams of two or more with narrow windows of escape for solo players. e.g. a channeled attack that can be mitigated by two players using the healing bell, or a solo player spring backwards a fuckton.
A mechanic like that encourages people to work together (if one person rings the bell and the other doesn't, one takes damage) without completely fucking over solo players.
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>>154046060
;^)
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>>154046383
Alright, I am convinced.

What about with the use of papers? How does that affect the multi-hit damage?
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Decided to just mash my two planned builds together. Rate?
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>>154046495
I wouldn't be able to tell you, I use a fire Whirly. I'd imagine flat arc gems would make for some goofy stuff though, provided you can pin people down.
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Should I start playing Bloodborne again y/n
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>>154046859
Do you have the urge to play it?
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>>154047194
A little. Thinking of trying out my MAXIMUM TONITRUS DAMAGE build.
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>>154047354
Imo tonitrus gets boring fast, so if this is your first time picking up BB in a while it'll get you to quit for much longer.

On the other hand, memewheel.
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>>154047354
>117

Maybe it's best if you don't boot it back up.
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>got one shot by Undead Giant in Lower Pthumeru
That fucking spin, man.
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>>154047485
I can put up with tedium. Last time I played this game I did nothing else for like two weeks. I must have made 15 characters, and deleted saves that had 15+ hours on them because I decided I didn't like their names.

>>154047665
It was what everyone was doing the last time I played. What level do people stop at now?
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>use chunks on fun weapon
>get more fun and effective weapon soon after
>no chunks
>no appropriate chalice dungeons open
>have to grind till I can get to chunk-farming dungeon

hahaha I have to go through so much tedium before having fun, thanks From :^)
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I almost regret getting bloodborne because I haven't been able to find something equally interesting since. dark souls 3 didn't fill the void, Idk why.
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>>154048073
What dungeons are chunk farming dungeons?
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>>154047851
The local meta has almost always been 98.
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>>154048232
Chunks only: JEMMJMPI
Chunks and rocks: ptwrx6tb
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>>154043954
Yes Amy, your just so easy to visceral. Stop having such a squishy head
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>>154048073
Oh no you have to play the game, how terrible
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>>154048204
I find completely different types of games help. I'm enamoured with Far Cry Primal at the moment, it couldn't be more different to Bloodborne.
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>>154038764
Loran and Isz.
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>>154048927
>play the game
>chalice dungeons
>reskins of cookie-cutter layouts
>reused enemies and terrible enemy placement
>no environmental substance
>i.e. lacking everything that makes soulsborne good
>"Optional" but necessary for upgrading materials/gems, so choosing not to means being shoehorned into 2 weapons and lackluster gems
>play the game
lol
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>>154043598
I'd rather have them with bigger boss rooms.

It just feels too cramped sometimes.
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PSN down once again. What a joke.
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>>154046574
Seems adequate to me. You'll get insane damage out of LHB and HMLS if you get base ARC req for it. If you're looking to use Heavy Abyssals, I 100% recommend moving 5 points to STR. Heavy Abyssals are incredibly powerful gems with 50 STR. Otherwise if you're only interested in using 27.2's, the build is fine.
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Anyone know if a cooperator can kill Yamamoto or whatever his name is in the DLC behind the locked door? I know it's possible to kill him with ravioli Cutter R2 through the door without having the key.
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>>154050368
Seriously what the fuck, didn't they just announce a price increase? I feel like this happens every month now.
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Can I get a spoilerfree rundown on Simon's quest?
i.e. what not to miss so I can get the bowsword?
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>>154049373
>soulsborne
>enjoying yourself
Pick one and only one
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>>154050713
You just need to talk him to once, then it's guaranteed you'll get it eventually.
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>>154050713
Option A: Kill him, he drops it.
Option B: Just do the DLC.

Simple stuff, really.
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>>154050713
You could just kill him.
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>>154033852
Saw Spear or Church Pick are better as beast-slayers. They're both serrated in both forms, rather than just in one like the Cleaver. The Pick also counts a Righteous, so it gets a damage bonus toward more things.
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>>154049373
>necessary for upgrading materials/gems

Except you're wrong. What are Mensis and Hamlet gems? What are Upper Cathedral werewolves? Holy shit I never say this, but git gud.
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>>154050760
>>154050816
Nice, thanks. I didn't expect it to be that easy.

>>154050851
He doesn't deserve that, yet.
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>>154038118
FUCK YES!
GOT THAT FUCKING BASTARD!
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>>154051594
You mean farming from the brain trusts? The worst enemies in the game? And farming the Upper Cathedral wolves with their abyssal drop rate?
Literally takes like time and tedium to go through the dungeons and unlock criteria to open one with chunks/rocks in it than to farm 16 chunks at werewolves, and that's just for one weapon.
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>>154038856
You can level up to 29 and still get matched in CY, correct? I thought it was at 30 that the game starts to cut off lower levels in the coop range.
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>>154050713
I thought you were talking about Castlevania 2
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>>154051804
i kept a couple of levels off in case i'm intersted in using some weapons
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>>154051594
>>154051594
Mensis/Hamlet gems get outclassed by CD gems pretty heavily, especially in PvP. Also UCW Wolves have a shit drop rate, even with eye runes.
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>>154051804
Besides i would still get oneshot even with those extra points in VIT
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>>154051759
>Winter Lanterns
>Worst enemy in the game
Someone hasn't met hellhounds. Winter Lanterns are easy. Just parry them
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>>154053425
Winter Lanterns are easy to parry, but it's one of those things where either you parry, or you die, and there's not really any way around it
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>>154053425
I was literally in the "You died" screen after being killed by a hellhound while reading your message.

Sure, parrying lanterns is the best way to deal with them, but you miss and die, or you die from frenzy on the approach, or die from frenzy while waiting for the parry window, or get the parry and the frenzy doesnt damage you until the animation is over, at which point you die.

I miss the cannon.
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I don't suppose I could just get someone to drop me an Arcane-gemmed HMLS?
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>>154054378
No dropping items in BB
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>>154054430
Oh, bummer.
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>>154053496
>>154053621
Then don't miss. Bloodborne has low tolerance for mistakes.
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>>154054378
git gud
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>>154053496
Wtf is a winter lantern? I've played through most of the game and I don't know what these are.

Also what's up with PSN, famalam? Any idea how long it'll be down?
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>>154056449
The giant, walking brain guys who cause frenzy by looking at you. You can hear them singing in certain areas.
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>>154054430
It would be cool if we could trade shit but then you'd have cancerous newfag beating the game too easily. My first thought when reading this conversation was "hey, why not?" but I think I'm glad it can't be done.
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>>154056576
Oh there are some kinda near the Wet Nurse, right? Those things are fucking sick as hell. 10/10 on design though.
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>>154056729
Yep, those exactly.

I usually just equip something like the Kirkhammer or Logarius Wheel and then stunlock them to death.
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Okay, so, for an HMLS, which is better for pure Arc damage? Arc Scaling +65, Arcane +72.5 (Flat), or Arcane +27.2%?

And, actually, wait a minute, are any of those (besides the 27% obviously) actually any better than just using +23% Nourishing?
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>>154056818
Stun lock with the kirkhammer? I've barely used it but how? Untricked sword mode? I can't remember offhand what I did with those guys but I died several times figuring it out and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
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>>154057416
No, just use the tricked hammer mode.

The frenzy meter keeps building up, obviously, but as long as you have enough stamina, you can stunlock them till they drop dead. You are, of course, forced to tank the frenzy damage.
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>>154053425
>Implying hellhounds are hard
Literally just shoot them, you don't even have to hit a parry window, any amount of blood damage will send them flying and incapacitate them for long enough for you to get some hits in
Works with all dogs and even spiders, red spiders too
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>>154057517
I thought the tricked hammer would be too slow to effectively stunlock but I haven't touched it since basically when I found it. I'm playing strength so maybe I'll get it out for another spin here soon. I'm still an axe whore, also like LHB, and I'm working on gemming up my whirligig and amygdalan arm because they both look fun.
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>>154055767
There's a distinct difference between low-tolerance and shoehorned bullshittery. Good enemy design is a challenging enemy beaten through prep (appropriate level and gear), mechanical skill, and character placement. With trusts and their frenzy stack, parrying at the right time in regards to the frenzy stack is the best and only consistent way to kill them, and it's still high-risk. The problem isn't that it's difficult, but that regardless of build or setup, it's the most consistent option. With trusts, mechanics like dodging (frenzy still stacks), rallying, stamina management are next to useless. Blue elixir/beast pellets do make them easier to deal with, but items like those should be supplemental to a working strategy, not necessary FOR a working strategy.

So yeah imo brainsluts look cool but fighting them is bullshit.
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>>154057970
There aren't very many of them. You'll be okay sweetheart.
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>>154057970
If you stack Great Deep Sea 2 and Deep Sea 2, both of which are easily obtainable in the main game, you can handle frenzy pretty easily, not to mention keeping your insight low. You don't even need to compromise your fashion to stack more resistance if you have those two runes.
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>>154058414
>Great Deep Sea
Haven't found this one, fampaitachi. Where is it, do you remember? The +200 deep sea got me through, along with the beak mask and graveguard set. That outfit turned out to look pretty cool, too.
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>>154058630
Great Deep Sea is in the Nightmare Frontier, in the poison swamp near the boss.
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>>154058791
Oh word, I probably missed a few things in there. It's a cool looking area but hard to navigate, I thought.
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>spelunking in old catacombs that havent been touched for thousands of years
>torches are lit
Shit game
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>>154059609
>Haven't been touched

Have you even looked around? The labyrinths have been kept track of for ages. What do you think all those lanky grey dudes are there for? A party?
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>>154059609
cool story bro
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>>154057970
Are you implying that consistent parrying isn't mechanical skill?
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>>154056729
It's made out of dead Doll's and Messengers.
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>>154059609
>Haven't been touched in ages
>Full of horrible, semi-intelligent monsters
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>>154057258
If you are exclusively using the Moon Beams then go with the +Flat Arc or +27 Arc

Otherwise I'd stick with the Nourishings
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>>154060212
>>154059765
>implying those guys give a shit about torch maintenance.
Im just jokin around, i love this game. I just find it silly that these creatures seriously care about keepin the place lit
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>>154060373
In all honesty, those fat-ass Keepers probably keep the torches lit. It's mentioned that they keep expanding the tunnels.
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>>154060373
Who doesn't like keepin it fukkin lit
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>>154058630
Why Graveguard when you should be using the Ashen Hunter?
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>>154058363
And they're in optional areas and only 3 of them have to actually be killed to get the items they're guarding.

I'm just saying, they could have been better.
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>>154059892
No, in fact I play low vit with clawmark, rapture runes through PvE when I'm making builds.
But 1 dimensional fights that trivialize other mechanics are bullshit.
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>>154060815
not everyone kills djura right after befriending him, anon. i mean, *I* did because I had already joined the vilebloods at that point and he drops precious, precious blood dregs.

but not everyone does. you should though, the spawn camping fucker
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What's your favourite quote from the game, /bbg/?
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>>154061642
"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAOWWWW"
-Orphan of Kos
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>>154052038
Which is why that anon>>154049373
Should just do the cds and farm watchers for 27.2s while netting 2 chunks at a time but he just wants to practice sophistry.
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>>154061642
>>154061754
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

~Laurence, First Vicar of the Healing Church
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>>154061642
Ah hah hah ha! Ooh! Majestic! A hunter is a hunter, even in a dream. But, alas, not too fast! The nightmare swirls and churns unending!
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>>154061840
>sophistry
No I don't, I just want to complain about things I don't like.

Which cd has watchers dropping chunks and 27.2s? I'm only at Lower Pthumerian on this build.
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>hasn't checked the pastebin
>doesn't know about boss chunk drops

gtfo and finish the game b4 shitting up this general with your long winded noncomplaints.
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>>154061642
AH, KOS, OR SOME SAY KOSM
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>>154061642
Tonight, Gehrman joins the hunt.
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>>154062842
Beat me to it. Micolash is a fucking sperg.
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>>154061642
Ah, you were at my side all along.
My true mentor...
My guiding moonlight...
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>>154061642
AYYYYYY LMAO
~Celestial Emissary
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Man, i hope blood letting beadt drops the item that makes me teleport to his hand during that shitty grab attack
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>>154062714>
I pasted the codes into this thread myself.
I didn't know they dropped specifically from watchers, or that 27.2 gems also dropped.

Also my complaints are about shitty preliminary CDs and bullshit winter trusts and I explained my opinions so fuck you im not shitposting
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>>154050618
Going up from $50 to $60 for the yearly rate
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>>154061642
"Aah, you were at my side all along." "My true mentor....my guiding moonlight".
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>>154061114
It's a standard enemy, not a boss. Not every enemy needs a moveset and playstyle more varied than the consistency of my shits.
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>>154061642
AYO HOL UP
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anybody FRC savescumming I can drop in with?
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>>154063876
Isn't there a Nioh general you can post this in?
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>>154063585
/thread
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>>154063876
>stone (1)
>You cannot carry any more of this item
What are stones used for and why are soldiers dropping them when you can pick them up off the ground?
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Anyone want to help a lv 34 get theough ludwig
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>>154046574
Also, would anything be better to wear than the Doll Clothes? I want something flowy and feminine that isn't the Knightess set or Maria set, or anything that would turn into a full dress. I want those baggy pants to show.
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>chopping off half your health in defiled chalice

W
H
Y
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>>154065259
They're basically Pebbles. You use them to draw attention of a single enemy.
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>>154066901
cuz gems famolash
earn them like the rest of us
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>>154067110
Dont care bout those i just wanna fight the bosses that arent in the main game

But i mean fuck dude, keeper of the old lords has like 2-3 hit combos that if your hit by the first move its a guaranteed death. Gotta git gud i guess
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>>154065320
If you're still around, sure. Password?
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>>154067596
Yeah, it's tough and frustrating a lot of the time, but more than worth it if you want gems.

Speedrunning through the dungeon to unlock the boss door also isn't a bad plan if you don't feel like putting up with the bullshit.
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>>154067913
Bbg
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>>154068168
Capital B, right? Ringing.
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>>154061642
"You're welcome to use whatever you find.
...Even the doll, should it please you..."
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>>154061642
Of course, I love you
Is that not why you made me?
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>>154061642
Beasts are a curse and a curse is a shackle.
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>>154068509
Yeah. At the boss gate
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>>154068132
I still try and go through the dungeons throughly to make sure i dont miss the good stuff, i thought chalices would have been easy because i started them late game and have depth 1 and 2 chalices, but damn the deeper i get the more bonkers it gets
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>>154068509
Taking a 15 min break
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>>154069404
I know what you mean.

For me, health isn't the greatest concern. It's my weapon. My Kos Parasite still isn't strong enough (it's why I'm going through CD to get gems in the first place), and I have few materials to upgrade some of my other weapons, so I'm running around with a +8 Tonitrus as my strongest.
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>>154069603
>Kos Parasite
I haven't finished the DLC yet. What the fuck is the parasite? I don't mean lore-wise, just what is it and what does it do?
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>>154069803
TENTACLES
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>>154069803
It's a freaky deaky alien weapon, when you equip the Milkweed Rune and Kos Parasite, you gain tentacle attacks and much groin thrusting
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>>154069803
One of the most fun weapons in the game, imo.

If you use it alongside the Milkweed Rune, which you also get from the DLC, you can basically become a tentacle ayylmao.

Your dodge animations get all goofy. It's a fucking blast to use.
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>>154069425
Alright. I lost connection, so let me know when you're back and I'll try again.
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>>154069858
>>154069932
>>154069940
Nice. I want it. Even though my arcane sucks bleeding AIDS dick.
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>>154070397
You could always just start a new game for an ARC build. Hunter's Tools are pretty neat anyways.

Just be prepared for gem farming.
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>>154069943
Alright im back. Same pw and all
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>>154070510
You don't keep your unlocked weapons on a totally new character do you? Just NG+ which doesn't let you re-spec? I'm right at the end of my first one, just finishing the DLC before Gehrman.
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>>154069603
I feel you, im stuck with a +10 Kirkhammer and that shit is no good late game but i dont know where to go with my build to actually use a decent weapon
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>>154071003
Ringing.
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>>154071114
You keep your weapons, but you can't re-spec.
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>18 vit
>bloodletting beast

fun
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>Discord Drama
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Is stake driver usable?
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>>154071843
In pve of course, everything's usable. In pvp, I feel this snip sums it up.
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>>154071779
>discord
>ever
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I'm curious. What games do you guys play aside from Bloodborne? Doesn't have to be 'new' stuff.


I'm curious as to if you guys generally like methodical things like the souls series, or high speed stuff like DMC
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>>154071003
Damn, that was a good one. I almost choked at the end.
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>>154071410
Holy shit thanks. Fuck his second phase
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>>154072263
Street Fighter V and WoW since Legion launched
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>>154032182

I like how Eileen is the best girl.

She's also the only hunter who remains sane by the end of the game, aside from the player character, if you progress through her sideplot properly.
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>>154072330
Anytime. I love fighting that asshole.
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>>154072263
Mario Kart 8 is comfy as fuck on the weekends. I'm also into Animal Crossing and Silent Hill.

Of course, I play the other souls games.
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>>154072379
Who do you play in SFV?
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>>154072263
I play a mix of rpgs, action games, and fighting games most of the time
recently I've been replaying NMH1 and 2
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>>154072448
Except that she doesn't.
All hunters become blood-addled, which is why she has a job.
She specifically says she has no more dreams left, and falls asleep.

She's in the nightmare, anon. I'm sorry.
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Anyone willing to help a BL: 25 with Isz Ebrietas?
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>>154072502
Ryu mained him since SSF2
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>>154072919
>That sweet gorilla damage Ryu has in V
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>>154072263
On the rare instances when I'm not playing Bloodborne, I usually spring for any of a variety of rogue-lites- Darkest Dungeon, Risk of Rain, Binding of Isaac, Crypt of the NecroDancer to name a few- or, though I haven't played it in quite some time now, Skullgirls.

But it's mostly just a non-top Bloodborne train as far as my vidya goes. It's honestly kind of a problem. Bloodborne has left me numb to so many other games I used to enjoy just by how phenomenal it is in comparison.
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>>154072990
>They gave me back the Third Strike Parry
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>>154063585
I keked
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>>154072804
sure, what's the pass?
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>>154073684
bbg
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>>154032182
Will Bb run at 60fps on the ''PS4 Forever''?

I'm glad you're still kicking /bbg/
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>>154072263
Recently I've only been playing Bloodborne, Darkest Dungeon, and League of Legends. Although I finished my DMD playthrough of DMC4 a couple months ago.
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>>154074121
We never abandon the dream only leave for a little bit to get the money to pay for PS+.

And I really hope it does because I will buy one to get BB at a silky smooth framerate+even better graphics.
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>>154073684
Man Arcane truly is a godsend in co-op.
Thanks man

Now...
Post Ecchi
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>>154074458
>Darkest Dungeon

my indefatigable nigga
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>>154072263
I'm replaying Hotline Miami and Hotline Miami 2 right now. I got the platinum trophies for them but I still go full try hard for high scores
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>>154072263
A whole lot of things! Right now I'm playing Far Cry Primal and honestly really enjoying it because I haven't played another Far Cry game and stone age settings are rare as fuck and awesome. Used to play Oblivion and Skyrim a lot when I had my 360 (sold it and my 50 games to get my PS4), Dragon's Dogma, some Xbox originals, a lot of shooters and hack n slash and action games. Have a PS2 and a bunch of games for it, had DMC (then again for 360), Darkwatch, God of War 1 and 2 (I think 2 is the best one), Silent Hill 2, a bunch of others. Bought a second hand Xbox for 5 eurodollars and get to play Morrowind in the worst way possible, but damn it it's still Morrowind! Also Halo 1 and 2, the best Halo games in their native habitat, Arx Fatalis which I've been ignoring, Panzer Dragoon Orta which looks amazing even today, Serious Sam and some others.
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>>154074775
It's fun, but the RNG really turns me off from it sometimes. I've got about 40 hours logged and haven't touched a champion-level dungeon yet, and I'm terrified to try boss fights, not because I'm afraid my heroes will die, but because I'm terrified of going through the drudgery of waiting for the right archetype to show up in the Carriage and then levelling them all the way up again.

With all that said, I do like the game a lot; I wouldn't have put 40 hours into it otherwise. It just has some shit that really sets me off.
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>>154074957
>That continuing list of good taste in games
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>>154074910
I've often wished I had a buddy to do score attack shit with. I love that sort of competition, which is why I love PvP in the Souls games so much. Never had the chance though, and at this point everyone who wants to do stuff like Hotline Miami score attack is already so good at it I'd never be able to come close.
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>>154075587
>Oblivion
>Skyrim
>GoW
>Halo
>Good taste
Bad taste? In my /bbg/? More likely than I may think!
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>>154075694
Oblivion and Skyrim don't have anything in the way of deep gameplay, doesn't mean they're not fun to play for long periods.

God of War and Halo used to be amazing
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Is it worth running a Str/Arc build for Tonitrus and Boom Hammer
Does the arcane scaling even add anything significant with high investment or is it a difference of like 50 points of fire damage
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>>154075804
God of War has combat more button-mashy than Dante's Inferno, and Halo's just another generic shooter. Although to be fair, it's hard to make a FPS have any sort of originality beyond story.
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>>154075853
Totally worth it for Tonitrus, kinda 'eh' for Boom Hammer. STR/ARC is still the way to go for the Wheel and HMLS though, so you can still use those.
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>>154075408
I know the feeling, I just got dealt a bad rng hand and I'm near the end of the game, lost a champion level houndmaster that I needed, because I forgot to pack torches. Words couldn't quantify the salt.

You can get any hero up the champion level with the ancestor's portrait and a leveled up Man-at-Arms guarding them through one or two lvl 5 dungeons though.
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>>154075853
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>>154075909
But Dante's Inferno was also based pretty much entirely on GoW. GoW was the basis for pretty much every western character action game since then.

Halo had a lot of interesting stuff in terms of races and lore if you read into it. Actually had a couple legit amazing novels
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>>154075694
>Oblivion
I love Elder Scrolls and it has the blandest setting, somehow the worst graphics and funky weird gameplay. But I love it, it's just nice to be in, making spells, being a big dumb fantasy hero, going full Deus Vult in crusader armour, I hate using this word, but it's comfy.

>Skyrim
Looking back it's probably the most shallow game of the lot, but by God did I sink hours in when it was fresh. Nowhere near as charming or endearing as Oblivion.

>GoW
1 isn't that good, it's kind of jank, but 2 is honestly fucking fun to play, meaty, visceral, blockbustery and the exact type of dumb historical fantasy shit that reminds of Ray Harryhausen movies that I love.

>Halo
Halo 1 is legitimately a good game and you're a gaylord. Bungie at least cared about making a fun game and I love Halo's atmosphere to bits, because it's drenched in it. 2 has fantastic gameplay and heart put into it. But hey, this is all subjective and these are my opinions.
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>>154075909
Dante's Inferno was straight up a GoW rip off. I love that game's visuals, but the gameplay is bland. Should have been a survival horror.
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>>154075853
>>154076075
Can you imagine all the porn if Orphan was a loli?
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>>154076240
That doesn't change the fact that GoW is a button-mash fest. Even the Darksiders games have more depth than that.

>>154076257
>Halo
It's still just a shooter. What gameplay did 2 have that made it unique? I only played 1, 3, and Reach. I really don't like FPSs, but with that said, my favorite is Resistance: Fall of Man. Great environments, interesting enemies, no regenerating health, a large weapon wheel, a slew of viable weapons, and through the guns and grenades, plenty of ways to approach situations. As far as I'm concerned, it's only downfall is the horrific lack of color.
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>>154076734
Halo and Halo 2 had really good enemy variety overall, 2 was one of the first games I can think of that had dual-wielding. Halo 2 is also what made console online gaming a thing
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I just got 0HKOed by Ludwigs bit combo. I didn't even know he had that move, and I've beaten him 6 or 7 times.
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Redpill me on why Ludwigs Holy Blade is frowned upon.

Is it a PVP thing?
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>>154078217
It used to be OP on release, but that was patched. Nowadays people don't like it because they think it's got a bland moveset.
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>>154078252
Thanks
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>>154078217
>>154078252
Ludwig's Holy Blade is typically frowned upon because it has completely even scaling between strength and skill, which makes it very alluring to shitters what can't handle the game without having a crutch to lean on- in this case, a bloated 50/50 statheap that kills everything in one or two hits. So not only is it a scrub magnet, but in the hands of a competent player it could probably be one of the dumbest things the game has ever seen.

Also it's a fucking sword in the game where saws can turn into cleavers and one of the weapons is a goddamn wheel, but no, don't pick any of the interesting weapons, pick the sword. At least the Kirk is a sword that turns into a hammer, at least the Reiter has a gun in it, but this thing is just a sword. It turns into a bigger sword. It's boring.
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>>154078571
You know very well that you can't get a 50/50 statheap before very late in the game without having no VIT, in which case they wouldn't be a shitter because they can beat the game with no VIT.
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>>154078745
People can grind, you know. I see no other possibility as to how someone can reach Mensis and be somewhere around BL120+, while still doing damage that can only be attained by having awful, garbage gems. They're dedicated to their scrubbery, I'll give them that much.
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>>154079001
I generally get to Mensis at about 60-70. They can still have garbage gems if they did they chalices without doing any FRC chalices though.
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>>154066827
please respond
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>>154079324
It's part of the game. If there's part of the game I could play, I'd play it. Especially if I didn't know about the drudgery of chalices beforehand. It's also possible they did coop to get levels as well.
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>>154079462
Your not everyone though, i mustve beat the game 5 times before finally decided to see what the fuss was about with chalices, and im sure i wasnt the only one who did this. Especially the normies out there who dont care about grinding forever to get gems to have 9999 AR
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i hate chalice dungeons
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>>154079631
My point is there are ways to get to high levels by mensis without grinding, especially with the DLC.
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>>154079726
Yeah, but normies don't care about that. You ever see the levels normal players hit in souls games? People who get to Gwyn at level 160
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>>154079812
I don't believe you. I struggle to get to Gwyn higher than 80. In fact I was trying to get to 120 before NG+ and I did a bit of grinding and I still couldn't get over 95. I 100% don't believe people can get to SL160 in DS1 without shittons of coop.
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>>154080048
You underestimate the scrubbery of the average shitter. People will fight the same enemy for ages to grind levels due to the thought that it's about level, not skill. That's not even counting common exploits and bugs
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>>154080048
I think I was 100 by the time I beat him.
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anyone up for ludwig? I'm sick of throwing my head against a wall here. Also be prepared for downscaling.
Pass: bbg
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>>154080174
For downscaled fights, you should list your level
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>>154080204
Sorry, currently 51. I'm unused to coop in this game. Does it matter much whether you know my level or not?
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>>154080263
Can't help you myself, but level isn't important in the normal sense, it's just that a person would want to know how weakened they'd be. If they'd be way weaker, they'd probably want to bring gimmicky shit
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>>154080379
What kind of gimmicky shit?
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>>154080174
I am on my way, friendo.
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>>154080441
fire paper'd Whirligig saw, oil urns, certain spells
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>>154080174
On my way.
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>>154080505
I'm ringing at the fog gate, bud.
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Man I'm sorry. I never know the right balance between hanging back because I'm shit and going in because I want to help.
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>>154080756
No worries. Just play normally and we'll get there.
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>>154080658
You still looking for help? I'm around.
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>>154080756
Holy shit, that 1 HP clench.
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>>154081030
Sorry mate, we just took the fucker down.

>>154080814
Thanks for the help, buddy. I wish I had thought to name my Beast Claw character Hyde. It fits too well.
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BL69, could use help with bsb in ailing loran layer 2. pass bbg.
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>>154060326
>(You
I want to use the transformed mode in general, not necessarily only the beams but obviously they'll come into play a lot.

Mugenmonkey says a 55-Arc HMLS gets 100+85 base Arc damage, so, yeah, farming for three 72 flats sounds a lot better in theory than three 27%s. Unless the 27%s are multiplicative. Then I'm sure out of hand.
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>>154082482
If you're going for 25 STR 50 ARC, then use Nourishings. If you're only going to have base req STR and SKL, then go with flats.
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>This Chalice Dungeon has been deleted from the server

Oh fuck, does that mean I have the only copy.

>want to explore a new CD
>all ten of my altars are in use already
>and I can't remember which CDs were for what or why they're open
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>Maria took me 6 tries
>Ludwig took me around 50 maybe more
Old hunters is one of the best DLCs I've ever played
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Is Church Pick a good weapon for a Skill/Arcane build?
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>>154086056
Depends, how much Skill and Arcane are you planning out?
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>>154086196
Not sure yet, I'm about to beat the game and I'm thinking Skill Arcane for my next playthrough.
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>>154086252
Well, no weapon scales with Skill and Arcane well together. Either get 50 Skill and low Arcane or minimum requirements to hold the Church Pick and get 50+ Arcane.
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>>154084653
maybe post their codes and let /bbg/ take a look at them to see which of them are worth keeping
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Lower Loran makes me want to kill myself.

At least once I clear this I can farm chunks...right?
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>>154086325
Alright. Think I'll go mostly Skill, since I don't think I have the wherewithal to do a full Arcane run.
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>>154086357
Sure. I know at least one is for Nourishing farming. I think the one that's deleted from the servers is one I just made to fuck around in.

kecz (this is a 'story chalice,' right?)

8usmn4r2 (I think this is the Nourishing one, or a messenger bath shop)

ch7jig9p (no idea why this is here)

zaxss2vc (I think an anon advertized this one a few times months ago as being fun and having some good loot)

8cfx3zxv (This is the deleted one that I think I made for fun)

9fvuy2us (I know this one's important, but I don't know why)
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>>154086365
Yeah, find a dungeon with a silverbeast boss on layer 1 and farm away
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Ten minutes of farming and a lucky off-shape drop later, I've increased my Moonlight's Arc damage from 314 to 386 and gained a real damage increase on transformed attacks despite a nominal decrease in attack.

Christ, why the fuck didn't anyone tell me sooner?
All the days wasted hating BB for transformed HMLS being shit, when the answer was right in front of me.
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>>154088543
So just keep quicksearching for Lower Loran or something?
I try to make the CDs using the pastebin glyphs and it says I don't meet the criteria.
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>>154088979
>says I don't meet the criteria
You haven't found the Loran Root Chalice, or created a Root Chalice of your own.
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Anyone wants to coop?
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>Simon's Bowblade
oh my fucking god
I have found my light
This weapon is retarded good on so many fucking levels holy shit
>bow R1 does more damage than Evelyn's
What were they fucking thinking
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Can someone explain the functionality of Scaling+?
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>>154046596
You'll be happy to know I'm remaking no vit O'Byron.

Slightly different stats this time too.
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What do I do now?
Ask me anything
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>>154096728
New builds? Farm good gems, pvp, coop in chalices.
Or pick up another souls game or Nioh and do a platinum there if that's your thing
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>>154096848
>New builds? Farm good gems, pvp, coop in chalices.
Fuck I should try a wheel build, it always looked fun, and im tired of only using the hammer. Don't much care for pvp since I'm using wi-fi. i have an ethernet cable but its a pain in the ass to run all the way across my house.

Got plats in all souls games except DS2 and I dont want to play it ever again.

Googling Nioh
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>>154096959
>wheel
good taste anon, 25/50 str/arc is super fun and typu can use hmls as well
I am pvping on wifi with zero troubles are you sure it's bad?

Nioh is only a demo but can keep you entertained for a good while and also by playing it you get early acces to DLC when it comes out I think.
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>>154086595
9fvuy2us RFC Ihyl
Layer 1
Pre-lamp: super easy blood rock
Boss: Beast P. Soul
If anyone else wants to join Layer 2 say the pw and I'll ring
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>>154098059
What is typus and hmls? Sorry I don't know any abbreviations.

>sure my wifi is bad?
Yeah I have terrible signal in my basement, this can be solved with a 100ft cat6 cable but it looks like shit running down my stairs.

Wheel it is!
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>>154098440
Sorry "typu" was suppossed to be "you" I guess. HMLS is holy moonlight sword.

>wheel it is!
Happy smashing m8.
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>>154085830
>sephiroth recolor
Kek
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Anyone wants to run with me through Research Hall? I just need to get Bow Blade and Bloodletter for my 65lvl bloodtinge build.
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>>154096728
Lucky nigger, some of my trophys are glitched
Also why the fuck do we have to be online to view trophies? All this fucking whining about xbox ones always online until they removed it but sony snuck in some fucking bullshit online required to just view fucking TROPHIES
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>>154099127
Ok anyone up for the Living Memes?
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>>154099230
I found that playing through the game on 1.03 patch had no issues with glitches trophies. I'm not sure if you can revert to that specific patch, but if you can, just play through the whole game up until the chalice dungeons and last 1/2 weapons. Then do those, followed by the DLC and you've replicated the exact way I platinum'd the game.
I got the plat almost a year ago, I'm just wanting to get back into it because it was such a fantastic game
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>>154099743
The fight is neverending
pass is bbg and I'll be ringing at the fog.
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Why does Gehrman need a book about picking up fair maidens? He has the doll and Moon Presence to fuck
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Fuck Laurence and everything about him, what a cheap fucking boss.
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>>154102434
Use serrated against him in his first and second phase, use ranged attacks in his third.
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>>154103214
or just circle him when he does that flailing arm attack and he cannot hit you and you get free hits on him.
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>>154098154
Layer 2
Nothing besides ritual materials
Boss is Hot Dog
Layer 3
Lost Reiterpallasch
Boss is a Descendant
>STR build
>Get a good ARK Abyssal
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>>154103384
Yes, but more than likely you'll be chipped away at by his lava.
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I'm not sure if anyone is around yet, but I was wondering if anyone wanted to tackle Upper Cathedral Ward with me.
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>>154104079
I will be able to play in about 30 minutes. If not, I'll be glad to help with Ebrietas.
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>>154076734
>It's still just a shooter.

All shooters are just shooters. If you want to look at it like that, Bloodborne's just a hack n slash game with neat details and can be as button mashy as you want. But it has depth, as did Halo 1 limiting you to two weapons so you had make pretty important decisions on what to carry as well your regenerating shield but not regenerating health. A game is more then gameplay, it's art design, story and general atmosphere or tone.

Halo 2 had a ton of weapon and enemy variety, more varied and dyanmic vehicle sections, dual wielding of weapons I think was done one of the first time times in Halo 2 and it had the vehicle hijacking mechanic, which you could pull off and so could enemies. Granted I think I enjoy Halo 1 more because of what it is overall, even though 2 might have some neater gameplay elements.
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>>154103527
No, since he he circles you you wont be touched by the lava or him.
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>>154064861
someone tried to create a general bu it was deleted after a few minutes because the game was not released yet
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>>154105796
>was not

i meant has not
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>>154104589
I needed a little bit of time myself, but I'm back. Tell me when you're ready and I'll pick a pass.
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>>154033329
>>154033161
>this retarded nigger is spamming shit in /dsg/ and /bb/

fuck off nobody cares
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>>154107073
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>watching Les Mis
>suddenly Father Gascoigne
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>>154107073
its probably lucifer
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>>154107943
>filename
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>>154106941
You up for it now? Tell me where to ring my smallie my man
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Just a reminder that if you need any help farming Abyssals just state in the thread or ask for the discord link.
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>>154108520
I'm at the Upper Cathedral Ward's first lamp now. The pass is freesia. Ring your SRB whenever!
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>>154108639
>ask for the Discord link
When did we become the Abyssal charity?

I must've missed that.
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>>154109245
>we
what did he mean by this
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>>154109312
He meant that it's time to merge with /dsg/
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>>154109181
I have to pick up the Key real quick I'll be there in a few.
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>>154109430
it's been that time since day one though
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>>154108639
Can I have the Discord link anyway? I like /bbg/ a lot, so I want to talk to it in more places.
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>>154109603
You won't be talking to /bbg/ there, it hasn't been about Bloodborne in months
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>>154110134
not true at all fambalam
just this morning people were farming abyssals
though the bb talk is usually pretty dead until saturday
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>>154109603
But discord has "THAT guy" in it
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>>154109603
https://discord.gg/sjAz4
There you go
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>>154110285
You don't mean...

Luci do you?
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>>154110494
Yes
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Jesus, does Lords of the Fallen get any more enjoyable? It was free and a Souls clone so I got it for the giggle, but holy shit. This is the worst feeling combat in a game I've ever felt.
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>>154110558
didn't he literally say he didn't do discords because he thought the app was spyware
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>>154109181
Fuck, sorry man, I really had to go for some stupid reasons. Sorry if you were waiting wish I could coop for a bit
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>>154110617
This is why I don't like Souls clones. Salt and Sanctuary was similarly weird.
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>>154110714
Why would you believe that faggot's lies?

Any lets stop talking about he-who-must-not-be-named lest he return.
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>>154110219
Does anyone from bbs release go there?
I was around bbg the most when it came out.
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>>154110714
>>154110912
>he
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>>154110912
*Anyway
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>>154110954
the uh, oldest fags are from about 6 months before the dlc but I'm not sure if anyone was around for the release
most people who were left bbg in general
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>>154105024
>A game is more than gameplay
I would rather have good gameplay over anything else. Gameplay is by far the most important part of any game. Good gameplay is what keeps me coming back to a game after I beat it. Not story, not atmosphere, those are expendable. I can get that sort of experience elsewhere. Good gameplay is what's truly hard to come by.
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>>154110979
Oh yeah, I forgot that freak is genderless so it's technically an "IT".
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>>154111031
Thanks, im just gonna assume you're all summers from what ive seen in there and keep
away! away!
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>>154111221
you do you
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>>154110814
It's okay!

But I don't want to tackle this place alone, it's too spooky.
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>>154111315
Imma do me
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>>154110617
did you try out nioh? Its the first good souls clone
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>>154110912
I see God King in there, but I don't think thats the original.
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I want a live orchestral performance of the Bloodborne OST.
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>>154111982
https://youtu.be/LzdhTGaWzec
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>>154111562
>Its the first good souls clone
You do know you're in a Bloodborne general, right?

>>154111982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzdhTGaWzec
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>>154111982
I want pc players to play bb so they can raise their standards on gaming and stop spending their money on lazy indie games created by useless teens.
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>>154112117
yes i know
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>>154112115
>>154112117
>1 second apart
>>
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>>154111058
I don't agree, to be honest. Take something like Morrowind, for example, that game plays like a brick yet people are still playing years later because of its setting and its story, not for its fuck horrible combat or cliff racers. Shit like Myst and Undertale are well loved, too. But it's all in context. Not every game needs story and atmosphere like others do. Part of the Souls and Bloodborne experience is the atmosphere and the art, the hints the areas and enemy designs drop about the world that make simply enjoyable to be in or just look really cool. Every game needs a story or simple, consistent framing device and every game needs good/consistent art design. It's like sound in a movie, the visuals can go fucking haywire but if the sound goes weird, people hate it, despite it being a visual medium.

I would readily accept perfectly serviceable but standard gameplay if I got a good story or setting out of it I can really enjoy. A game should always be fun to play, but there's more than one way to have fun. Take that The Surge game back up in this thread, that western sci fi Souls clone, the gameplay looks perfectly good, maybe even great once you get into it, but it's the blandest, most pre-packaged near future sci fi you'll ever see. And I couldn't take that because it seems to slapped together and shallow. It's not fun to just be in.
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>listen to the boss's music
>you can hear the boss's grunts and shouts in your head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdt5XNvPkc
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>>154111562
Yeah, I'm not a fan, to be honest.
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>>154112857
This. It feels like I'm playing Souls with DMC4 Dante's mechanics; the combat feels claustrophobic, if you know what I mean. I don't know.
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>>154112857
thats cool, its not for everyone
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when are you guys going to merge with dsg?
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Can a BL:25 get some help with HMPH of Ihyll?
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>>154113567
/dsg/ wants absolutely nothing to do with us, despite keeping Bloodborne in their OPs. Believe me, I've tried.
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>>154113198
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>>154113567
Why would we want to merge with dead trash?
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>>154112835
>Listening to Orphans theme
>EEEEEEEYAH!
>REEEEEEEEE!
>AAAAAAAAAH!
Gets a bit distracting to be honest.
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>>154113768
What's the pass?
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>>154115017
bbg
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>>154092743
I can never use the Bowblade's transformed R1 because a limited supply of bullets makes me feel like every time I don't do a fully charged R2, it's a waste
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>>154115831
What...
Uh...
What is this image supposed to represent?
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>>154115970
A trampoline
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Do we know why Maria and Gehrman went their separate ways?

Did Gehrman want to slay the ayys as well, but Maria wanted to protect them?

Did she commit suicide in the Clock Tower? Was that picture frame next to her of Gehrman?

>>154115970
It's Maria.
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>>154116148
Maria killed herself.
Gehrman was saddened so he made the Doll.
It couldn't replace her though so he beckoned the Moon Presence to give it life.
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>>154116148
It's possible that Maria and Gehrman parted ways when she decided to start doing her experiments to try and ascend man to a higher state of existence, since it doesn't really seem like something that Gehrman/Moon Presence would approve of.
And yeah, seems possible that after failing to ascend mankind and instead creating an army of no-necked monsters she decided to end herself.
That said, I honestly don't know how the Nightmares are meant to work, so who knows what the time frame is.
>>
So apparently, most enemies are weak to thrust and fire.
Can you put a fire gem on a thrusting weapon and do both thrust and fire damage? Or do you only deal fire damage with a fire gem?
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>>154117257
Thrust is a form of physical damage, not a modifier like serrated
The best you can do is use physical gems and fire paper
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>>154117392
Wish the wikis listed which weapons can do thrust damage.
Looks like stake driver doesn't, for some reason.
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>Find a good Phys. Up gem
>Has a an additional effect of +2 fire damage
>This coverts all of my weapons damage into fire making the gem worthless
Why
>>
Man...
Why does Fromsoft need to have such a huge fetish for corners?
>>
>>154117923
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>>154117912
The guide scans list which of a weapon's attacks do what kind of damage
If I remember right the Stake Driver only does thrust on the 4th hit of it's untransformed R1 and jumping attacks
For whatever reason the big R2 does blunt instead of thrust
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>>154117912
They do, look at the segments about specific attack modifiers
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>>154113768
we're gona need a third for this aren't we?
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>>154118581
He's really easy if you time your parries. Look up a youtube video or something. I'm not great at BL4 and can't kill Ludwig, but even I managed to kill him on that.
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>>154117923
Pretty sure flat attack is added at the end and only percentage gems converts your weapon.
>>154117998
Every game has corners. From is just smart enough to make them exciting.
>>
Can I put Heavy AND Sharp gems on Stake Driver?
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>>154118581
If we get him down to his second stage I can stunlock him with executioner gloves
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>>154119323
Alright
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>>154119303
Well don't bother with Sharp gems they are shit. Just chuck a heavy abyssal and a bunch of 27% gems. (If you want to go full autismo go for two tempering abyssal)
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>>154119512
I think the second abyssal wouldn't be much use, at most he'll get a +15 increase but the 27.2 buffs your viscerals.
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>>154117515
New pasta?
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>>154119862
Not really "new", per-se. It's been around at least since the very start of the Beta, which makes me think it started back during the Alpha.

Wouldn't surprise me if it was that old, because half the Nioh community is just out to prove how hardcore they are in comparison to the Souls games.
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>>154119323
take turns backstabbing him until second phaze?
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>>154121113
I'm going to stop for a while.
>>
Can someone redpill me on turning PS4 video clips into webbums?
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>>154121525
upload the clip to YouTube (if you have subscribers, set the clip to upload as Private so they don't have to see every little clip you upload, or put them all in a public playlist, whatever you want), once uploaded, download the video with YTDownloader or some other way, then put the video through WebMConverter.
>>
Guys I have trouble beating The One Reborn. Everytime I try to go in to whack his gooey center he stunlocks me with rain from above shit and his 9000 legs. The only way I've found to consistently beat him is falling attacks on his head and center, get a few hits, then run back upstairs to do it again. That feels super cheesy though.
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>>154122820
You're supposed to be smacking him in his ass
what weapon are you using?
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>>154122934
Chikage currently
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>>154122991
>Vilebitch having trouble with One Reborn

I continue to be unsurprised.
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>>154123075
I-I'm just going for a ronin build with Yamamura's garb and the Chikage. I'm not a Vileblood, I swear!

Besides, I've never died to The One Reborn, I just always end up using far more vials than I would like, and it pisses me off that I use that many.
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>>154121113
I'm back if you still need help.
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>>154123424
Alright, i've rung

I think cheese him with LHB through the pillars untill his second phaze which is where you'll come in.
I almost managed to get him with that strategy, until he started spamming his twin boomerang attack.
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>>154122820
Bolt paper works absolute wonders, you know.
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>>154123912
Unfortunately not with the Chikage.
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>>154124039
Absolutely disgusting.

Always have a back up weapon upgraded and gemmed up, anon, even if it's just the saw cleaver, it's better than dying to One Reborn.
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>>154124323
As I said earlier, I have never died to him. I'm just looking for a strategy that doesn't involve me using 11 blood vials.
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gg PS4 pro doesnt do jack shit with Bloodborne, dead game sony doesn't care fuck everything
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>>154124480
He's actually weak as shit, to be honest, you just need to abuse his weaknesses. Have a back up weapon on hand for situations like that. His actual worst attacks are the explosions and vomit which can kill nigh-instantly. Otherwise, you just can just mash R1 away with a bolted up weapon.
>>
How do I get to lecture building early?
Amygdala teleports me to hunter's nightmare.
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>>154124860
Source?

Will I be able to play my current PS4 games on the Prostation, or will I need to repurchase the Pro versions?
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>>154125130
Wrong Amygdala.
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>>154125182
Everything on the ps4 will work on the pro
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>>154125130
I made the same mistake.

Look for the Amygdala near Yahar'gul. It's on one of the paths branching from the Grand Cathedral.
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>>154125130
Wrong Amy my dude, go to the Grand Cathedral where you fought Amelia, as you face it, go right, past the two hunters and down into the little building. Get grabbed there.

Make sure you have the tonsils stone first, talk to windows with red lanterns outside them.
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>>154125237
Cool. It's the same price as my PS4 when I got it, so I'll most likely sell and upgrade.

Though I will need to get a 4k TV, or it will be worthless.
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>>154125237
The fuck is PS Pro? I thought it was the Neo?
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>>154123783
AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!
HE WAS AT 0.000000000001%
BUT THEN.....
FUCKNG...
"TEEHEE.... TWIN BOOM-BOOM ATTACK: GOO~!!!"

FUCKING MOUTH-BREATHER!

Ringing again!
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>>154125406
New press conference, it's now the "PS4 pro"
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>>154125745
oh...
i can feel the lactic, fizzling under my skin...
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>>154124865
Not him but one reborn has always been easy for me. How do i make him harder to fight? Bl4? Usually im bl40-50 and hes always a cakewalk.
>>154124480
Try beating up his arms and thatll open him up for massive damage on the body.

Is the one reborn supposed to be ook and kos?
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>>154123424
hmm...
perhaps...

could you wait at the fog, until his second phaze? so we don't have to be confused on who he is aggroing.
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>>154098154
>9fvuy2us RFC Ihyl
>Pre-lamp: super easy blood rock
Ah, I guess that's why I have it open. Thanks.
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>>154127004
That'll work
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>>154126991
>Not him but one reborn has always been easy for me. How do i make him harder to fight? Bl4? Usually im bl40-50 and hes always a cakewalk.

Just never use elemental buffs and leave the maidens alive.
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>>154125745
AAAAARGH
DEJA FUCKING WU!!!!
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>>154128067
the attacking....
it never ends....
it never fucking ends...

I just want the root challice for fucks sake...

Version 1 of HBLB weren't as terrible as this, even with half of his moveset consisting on one-shots at 99 VIT.
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>>154088610
So considering these new developments, I want to plan a new game around this.

How do I plan a new game around acquiring Arcane Gems, whether Flat, Scaling, or %? The ones I'll end with won't be available until Ihyll, and obviously I'll want to use the HMLS before then.
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>>154088610
Curiously, where were you farming at?
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>>154129471
kwzs3hcs

Two brainsuckers up the 'elevator' and to the right.
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>>154129148
There's an Arcane guide in the OP. Not a lot of good gems for the HMS before dungeons, best I could think of is a 15% Nourishing Radial in Mensis and a 9% Triangle before Rom somewhere.

Just get through the game/ dungeons with a fire Saw Spear with 2 Pthumeru Hotdog radials and the Waning fire gem below the Abandoned Workshop. After that, FRC Amy and gargoyle mob farming.
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>>154123398
You using the untricked version?
It kinda sucks even at 50Skl
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>>154128067
Do you want to spam space magic at the other boss?
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>>154113768
>>154115017
It's over...
The torment is over...
Thanks man...
It would be nice having a star storm raining on HBLB while i go to town on his legs.

But i need a small break before that...

Man... 3 hours of attempts...

You can Post your Ecchi now...
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>>154129790
hmmm...
ah fuck it, nvm this post >>154129818
Let's get it over with.
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>>154032182
Need help with ludwig the accursed lvl 50 pass gg123
Beckoning outside the fogwall
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>>154129956
By the fog right?
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>>154129790
I've rung
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Anybody need help with anything?
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>>154130513
>>154130051
Yes please
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>>154130659
I'll try anon, but I've always been shit at Ludwig.
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>>154130659
Ringing now
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>>154130051
>>154130659
I don't want to be "that guy" buy I find Ludwig easy with Valtr as a summon. Especially NG, when he doesn't die that fast but it sure depends on you Vit and skill and luck. Just wondering whether you tried it with him.
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>>154131079
>>154130659
Beast Blood Pellet, Fire Paper, Serrated Weapon, dodge left in phase one, dodge right in phase 2.

>>154130659
If you still need help, I haven't been here in months, so I'm rusty as shit, but I can throw my hat into the ring.
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>>154131268
How does Ludwig do against Bolt/Arcane?

I have a Fire Saw Cleaver, but it's only +6, and this is my WIP Arcane build. I've got a Kos Parasite and a Tonitrus, but I still want to help out.
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>>154131479
He's weak against fire in his first form, and not weak to either in his second form.
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>>154130659
This guy again , im beckoning
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>>154131479
>How does Ludwig do against Bolt/Arcane?
Oh I don't know.

>Fire Saw Cleaver, but it's only +6
Just a Fire Saw Cleaver+6? I dunno. Haven't managed that yet. If you have any Beast Blood Pellets, make the SC physical and use a Fire Paper though. I've killed him with as much before.
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>>154131746
Not getting anything.

You're right outside the fogwall, right?
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>>154131746
FUCK man we totally had him then
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>>154132132
Cool if I (>>154131268) tag along?
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>>154130175
Got Him!

Sigh*
It's over
I can't thank you enough man.
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What's the quickest way to kill yourself next to a lamp to restock supplies? Without chikage or bloodletter
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>>154132347
Run off a ledge or into an enemy. No other way.
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>>154132347
Logarius Wheel?
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>>154132347
find a cliff and jump
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>>154132016
Yep
>>154132132
Yah fuaaark...
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>>154132274
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>>154132395
That's what I'm currently doing after 3 blood bullets
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>>154132485
That was fun.
>tfw my pitiful visceral attack
Fucking kek.
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>>154132485
We fucking got him , much love guys !!!
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>>154132856
Haha i was really close to dying at the end there, got my heart racing
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>>154132856
>>154132908
I really need better fire gems, having to resort to physical pizza cutter with fire paper on an ARC build isn't great
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What's the proper amount of stamina I would need for proper whirligig saw shenanigans?
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>>154133031
I wasn't doing much damage either with my Tonitrus/Kos Parasite. I need to farm better gems, so lately I've been trying to rush through CD to get to the ones I need for my ARC gems.
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>>154132347
Hunter Mark. You'll lose your echoes though.
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>>154133194
I've been farming gems for so long I'm sick of it, most of mine are nourishing or cold abyssals. I haven't started on fire gems yet. Only bolt.
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Anyone wanna help me with the living failures? Password bbg
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>>154133295
Damn, man. I haven't even unlocked Isz Gravestone or Great Pthumeru Ihyll. I don't even have a decent fire weapon for beasts, so I'm still trying to find out how I'm going to get past some of the beast bosses.
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>>154133402
REEEEEEEEE incoming

Where you ringadingin?
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>>154133505
I have a new Skill build, maybe we could go through the dungeons together, though I'd need to do all the early ones and get materials
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>>154133658
That'd be just fine, anon. I only just opened Ailing Loran and finished Lower Pthumeru.

>>154133402
Shit, my bad. Did you get 'em?
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>>154133910
I've yet to kill Amy for the loran chalice, only have pthumeru right now
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>>154133402
Done now, whoever that was thanks
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>>154133972
That's cool. I've never done dungeon co-op anyways. Do I get gem drops as well?

It's fine if I don't. Sounds fun to do either way.
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>>154134114
Cool, I'll set up a dungeon after helping this guy with NG+ rom
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>>154133402
On maria now password bbg if anyone wants to join
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>>154134114
Lvl 74, password: doll
First pthumeru dungeon
If you're still good to go, anon
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>>154134260
Finished shithead Ethel you're a legend mate
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>>154133972
>I've yet to kill Amy for the loran chalice, only have pthumeru right now

Just cheese Amy.

Make a Skill/Bloodtinge build, and roll around shooting Amy's head with Simon's Bow.
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I keep dying to Celestial Emmissary in the Isz Chalice.

How much should I try to sell the game for?
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>>154134736
Sweet, on my way. My bad for the delay; was helping somebody

Where are you ringing at? I don't think I'm getting anything

>>154135029
No problem, man! Don't call me for Orphan; I'll die sooner than you will.
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>>154135043
Don't worry, I've killed amy countless times on my ARC build farming gems, I just having gotten around to it on this build yet
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>>154135202
I think it's silly that Dark Souls 2 and 3 both let you respec a character, but Bloodborne doesn't
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>>154135187
I'm at Layer 2, main lamp now
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>>154135323
Gotcha

I was ringing at Layer 1
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>>154135493
Yeah, I decided to quickly run and kill the giant, takes 2 seconds to find that lever and kill him
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>>154135057
A decent vagina transplant
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>>154135493
Do you have the password set? Taking a strangely long time
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Need help with laurence the first vicar, pass gg123
Beckoning at the gate you unlock in the beginning area of the dlc.

Lvl 50. Also is bolt effective?
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>>154135654
>>154135493
I'm way too OP for these dungeons lol
Need 4 ritual blood (2) from L3, will ring at lamp
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>>154135980
Kek, same

Hotdog gives me some trouble, though.
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>>154135914
I'll join, but it would be better if you just ran past everything and summoned at the fog gate
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>>154136347
Done
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>>154136086
No trouble at all lol
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>>154136347
I thought i had to deal with that huge squidface with the axe
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>>154136704
Just run round, lure him if necessary
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>>154136514
Pardon my motherfucking terrible sense of direction
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>>154136994
Lol no worries, I get lost all the time
Need ritual blood from this layer
Let me know if you want me to slow down, I'm just not used to chalice co-op
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>>154136817
Ha, you think this can be done?
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>>154131479
Why do you gimp yourself so badly?
Use the Saw Spear instead. It has Serrated in both forms, unlike the Cleaver.

Plus it has a Waning slot even in it's normal form.
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>>154137072
Nah, we're fine kek

I'm impressed that you know the layout so well, man

I'd be running in circles
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>Isz chalice room with brainsuckers and ayylmaos
>brain suckers have immobilization
>ayylmao lasers go through walls and a single projectile takes all my HP

fuck.
What do I do?
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>>154137576
This has to be 6th time running to FRC dungeons at least, though I do get lost a a couple times.
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>>154137641
There are werewolves at the top, too.

The sarcophagus has a shitty arc gem in it.
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>>154137189
Run past him while he is attacking the two NPCs
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>>154137189
It's probably the shittest boss outside of chalice dungeons. I think you should practice by yourself for a bit or come back later since it's an optional boss. Seriously though fuck vicar laurence
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>>154137743
I know
I'm doing it anyway
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>>154137576
Oh man, that was embarrassing, sorry lol
Thought I could either beat the rock or tank it to save time
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I forgot about the giant ball.
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>>154137753
>>154137795
Yea sounds good, thanks anyway!
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>>154138006
Holy kek, no worries, man.

I got flattened before you did, don't forget.
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>>154137641
I use an invisibility potion and clear the room counter-clockwise.
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>>154138183
Lower pthumeru, no materials needed for L1, see you there
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>>154138572
Chamber of the Seal or Layer One?
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>>154072263
recently? Replayed Demon's Souls, getting into fallout 4 and Life is Strangeagain

Don't judge me
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>>154140635
>Life is Strange
Knowing that I will never be with Maxine is perhaps one of the greatest pains I've ever felt.
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>>154101439
>doesn't read ovid's "the art of love"

no wonder maria never cared about him...
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>>154110617
agreed, everything just feels sluggish, even the daggers are slow as hell, first boss is just a complete slog to try and do because of that
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>>154113567
when the beasthood finaly takes over.
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>>154140635
>Stupid gun
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>>154140821
i know that feel all to well anon...
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>>154138871
That's about all I can do until I kill amygdala in nightmare frontier, anon. Want to head over?
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Unfortunately, chalice bro, this is where I leave you!

I don't have the materials for the Defiled Chalice yet, still missing Bastard of Loran.
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>>154142026
Oh, shit, absolutely.

I thought you were heading into DC. In that case, let's go right on ahead to the frontier.
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>>154142148
Nope, need to do this, then get the materials for defiled from this loran chalice
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>>154142148
Do you want to go slow and play through the area or speedrun to the boss? I'm cool with either you want to do
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>>154142332
Either way, man

I don't mind at all
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Double-checking to make sure I don't upgrade the wrong versions of the following weapons, STR/ARC build, with some Skill.

I'd want:
Lost HMLS
Lost or Uncanny Wheel?
Lost Boom Hammer
Uncanny Kos Parasite

What about Beast Cutter?
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>>154142332
Whoops, got stomped.

Got Amy?
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>>154142419
>>154143307
Just need to quickly farm 1 more ritual blood and I'm good to go for ailing loran anon
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>>154143330
No problem, man.

I can only do Layer 1, though, as I haven't gone deeper into it yet
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>>154143307
>>154143330
Alright, all set, ringing at L1 main lamp.
>>154143465
We can alternate a layer each. After L1, ring a beckoning bell at the L2 main lamp and I'll help you through
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>>154143594
Neato, that sounds like a plan
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>>154142828
Lost
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Just beat Cleric Beast easily in one try. Already level 21. Feels good to be back in it.

Hope it lasts til the Chalice dungeons, heh.
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>>154143824
For everything?
I'm at the messenger shop with lost/uncanny of almost every weapon I listed.
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Chalice anon, are you ringing your beckoning bell? Not getting you
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I can't fuckin do it, I can take take his first form just fine but the second I just can't.
if you wanna help
pass 914
I'm lvl 105
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>>154144597
My bad, anon

I ran off a bit into the chalice. Gimme 2 mins to ring!
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>>154142828
>154143824
The only reason you'd want the Uncanny Wheel is if you were going for an on-hit vit-gouge build with flat arcane gems. Everything else is Lost on an ARC build with the exception of the Parasite, if again you want flat arc gems, which gives you more damage on the explosion, but less damage elsewhere.
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>>154144626
you by the fog?
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>>154144710
Sure
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>>154144626
omw
at the fog?
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>>154068772

patrish
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>>154144767
Alright, ringing at the first lamp

Just in case, the password is still doll
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>>154144920
The layer 2 lamp?
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>>154144993
My bad, layer 1

Haven't gotten to 2 yet
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>>154144750
I appreciate the explanation, thank you.
I'm on the "best gem setup" page linked in the pastebin, and the "best arcane setup" page linked from there, which suggest the uncanny/basic versions of some weapons.
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>>154144626
That was fun. Ain't fought him in quite a while. Doesn't take kindly to Bolt Paper, it seems.
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I could use a hand on Orphan of Kos as well. I just want to be a cauliflower. Bl 100, pass bbg
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>>154145360
oh its over already?
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>>154145076
Ringing small at L2
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>>154145412
Yeah, sorry lads. I kinda sniped it.

>>154145410
I'm up for another.
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>>154145478
Sweet omw

And then after this, you
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>>154145410
I'll join as well
At the fog?
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>>154145360
thanks so much bro now I can finally give my friend his ps4 back
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>>154145627
It's already over. Sorry anon.
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Kos down, thank you so much Akiraka.
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>>154145995
Cucked out of Orphan co-op twice in less than 10 minutes...
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>>154146090
I know that feel. Happened to me just earlier today.

>>154145649
>>154146081
No problem bros.
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Anyone i can join for jolly co-op?
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>>154146757
If you want to help me with Ebrietas in Isz Chalice, definitely.
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>>154086595
Couldn't find ch7jig9p so either you typed wrong or it's gone

8usmn4r2 FRC Ihyll (again)
FUCKING WITCHES EVERYWHERE
Layer 1
There's a Lost Burial Blade in Pre Boss room
Boss: Beast Soul (again)
Layer 2
Player notes say there's a rune but I don't know wich one since I got Great One's Wisdom, boss is a pig
Layer 3
Someone named Logarius lost a wheel at the pre lamp room
Headless Beast
Layer 4
I think it's another rune but I'm not sure, I got another Great One's Wisdom
Bloodletting Beast
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>>154147174
Sure
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>>154147301
>>154147301
>Player notes say there's a rune but I don't know wich one since I got Great One's Wisdom, boss is a pig
I think it's an HP rune. Possibly stamina.

>Couldn't find ch7jig9p
Ah I think that h might be a b. cb7jig9p
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>>154147654
Cool. BL70, layer three Isz Chalice.
pass is bbg.
I get killed in one hit usually so this may take a few tries.
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>>154147772
Alright i've rung

If its the charge-attack that kills you,
i suggest, when you see it, don't try to dogde it
You take extra damage if you get hit while failing to time a dogde.
And that move has such a wide hitbox, you'll often get hit anyway so the least you can do is reduce the damage taken.
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>>154148073
Ringing as well.

I have low vit so almost every attack is an instant kill. I've gotten her down to about half health a few times. If you tank for a bit I can spam Executioner's gloves at her head for solid damage (about 480 for every 3 that hit, max of 20 casts).
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>>154145614
That's about all we can do until I farm some materials for the defiled chalice I'm afraid, anon.
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>>154148312
Same here, anon.

Thanks for the co-op, man. I had a really good time.

>tfw we both fall down the same hole twice
Had a good kek.
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>>154148370
I couldn't believe that lol
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>>154148217
How low is your VIT?
My BL: 25 could survive with 20 VIT and the Clockwise Met (+2)
If thats a unit of measurement

...
Man this is taking a while...
I'm not even using SRRC
I'm in the dungeon
It shouldn't be taking this long
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>>154148569
18 VIT, no runes.

Yeah, this is a long wait.
Layer 3 Great Isz, right? The shared fixed one?
I can log off and ring again.
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>>154148763
Wait, you're not the Beckoner?
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>>154148912
I mean, I'm ringing the Beckoning Bell.
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>>154147174
Can I join?
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>>154149118
Sure.
I'm going to restart PS4 and ring again.
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>>154149065
Ok
Yeah im at Isz Layer 3
Past the Lever-gate but before the stairs

I keep losing connection to the servers, so I've restarted as well
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>>154149275
Alright.
Ringing again. Found someone.
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zgv6ezxi-L3 Abbhorent Beast
e2ts7vub-L4 Isz Elder
by68zgaj-L3 Pthumeru Elder

Currently ready to farm these guys if anyone wants to join. We could also do whatever glyph you choose and rush to the boss.
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>>154149551
I'm up for it, let me check if I have one already active. Password?
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>>154149639
wei
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>>154149551
>>154149639
Ok, I have zgv6ezxi L3 open, I'll ring at either lamp or fog
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RIP.

Ringing for Eb again.
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>>154149765
I'll ring at the top of the stairs. Let me just setup the savescum.
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>>154149483
I have no idea how she hit me. So this is why they call me Laggy Hunter
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>>154149941
Sure thing. Add me on PSN if you savescum often, I'm always looking to jump into people's game when they're farming
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>>154150000
Alright, I usually tag along but I wouldn't mind hosting. Ringing Becky.
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>>154150156
Are you the 3 hit stake driver webm anon?
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>>154150356
Yep ;)
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>>154149986
No worries, I died as well. Are you guys still here?
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>>154150440
Heh, I was asking for advice with it the other night for this very build. Kept clipping me with its arms in the 3rd phase.
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>>154150485
Still Ringing
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>>154150485
Did that count?
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>>154150554
Kek
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>>154150540
Yeah I remember. I'll upload the whole vid soon, maybe after we finish farming. Has the Amy farming gone any smoother?
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Ha, she fell on me. I deserved that.
Got the kill, thanks guys.
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>>154150838
Alright, good stuff
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>>154150829
Yeah I can generally get a 3 hit kill down, if not (because it heals its limbs) usually 4 or 5. But it was going pretty good. No decent drops still.
>>
Anyone else i can join in jolly co-op?
>>
What is the L2 with the whirligig used for, familia? I tried using it on a couple of executioners thinking it would stunlock them but it didn't. Am I doing it wrong?
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>>154151347
It continuously spins the whirligig while you hold it, good for building up beast meter, for stunlocking, for large amounts of damage if you can land it.
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>>154151056
Amy can be stingy with her gems, I've only ever gotten one off-shape and it was a Waning from Isz Amy. It was trash either way. At least you've got the method down!

If you get bored with Abbhorent we can move to a different boss whenever.
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>>154151887
Have yet to even get an abyssal from AB lol.
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>>154151537
>beast meter
You know, I'm at the end of the main story and the end of the DLC (beating the latter before the former for obvious reasons) and I have absolutely no idea what the beast meter is? Every once in a while I'll notice beasthood on my stat screen and go "oh yeah, that exists". What's it all about?
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>>154152046
Pop a blood pellet and the more attacks you land, the higher your beast meter (also helps with low insight, armour with high beasthood etc..)
The higher the meter, the more damage you take but the more physical damage you output. Can rack up thousands of damage in a single combo with high beast meter.
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>>154152232
Sick. I forget about the pellets too, clearly. I'll have to give it a go, thanks. So does beasthood basically not even mean shit if you're not using a pellet? Because that would explain why it's so easy to overlook if you don't know better.
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>>154152372
It does if you're using beast claws, since that builds up beast meter without pellets, but other than that, you won't see the beast meter unless you spend insight or something, briefly.
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>>154151969
The drop rate isn't too bad for Abbhorent. Getting a fire secondary ruins the gem though unfortunately.
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>>154152627
Yeah, many of the regular gems I've gotten have fire secondary. Not had any from this run that's had bolt as a secondary yet, unfortunately.
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I'm trying to search for the jemmjmpi dungeon but don't meet the requirements for the glyph.
I've created a Fetid Isz Root Chalice, what's up?
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>>154152801
you have to make an F R C
as in fetid rotting cursed
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>>154152801
>Fetid Isz Root Chalice
Lol that's not what FRC stands for m8
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>>154152872
...Fuck, I thought it was one of the three.

Goddammit, I need to farm materials again?

>>154152926
I know what FRC stands for...didn't realize it meant using all three rites. fuckkkk.
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>>154153004
>I know what frc means
>I just didn't know what it meant
what did he mean by this
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>>154153004
>I know what FRC stands for...didn't realize it meant using all three rites. fuckkkk.
If you looked at the spreadsheet to find the glyph, clearly you've no fucking idea what "FRC" means.
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>>154153069
I take it you thought I thought FRC meant Fetid Root Chalice.

I know it means Fetid, Repugnant, Cursed.
From the spreadsheet I thought I could use either of the three but in retrospect that makes no sense.
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>>154152738
Hopefully RNGesus treats us well in these runs.
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>>154153262
Not bloody likely
>>
Is anyone here based enough to play wearing the enlarged head?
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>>154153357
And my WiFi gets cut off dammit. Sorry about that.
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>>154153448
No worries
>>
If I'm looking to get involved in the fight clubs should I just go to 120?

On an unrelated note, what's a good level to get some co-op going?
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>>154153719
Fight club meta is 98, just do that.

Coop meta is basically any level, just depends on the area. SRRC with randoms is always super active regardless of your level, but if you want to get FRC dungeons you're more likely to find those if you're higher level. But really just 98 is still fine.
>>
SOUL OF THE MIND, KEY TO LIFES ETHER.
Wait wrong general
>>
I'm kind of confused. I'm trying to get the lost saw spear from this chalice http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Lost+Saw+Spear+on+Layer+1

GLYPH: vxi64jjt

So, in order to make it, I need the materials for a Lower Pthumeru Root Chalice, and a Fetid Offering? Cause I'm still being told I don't meet the requirements to access this place, and I have all the materials and the root chalice itself.
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>>154154437
Gotta make a root chalice with all the appropriate rites checked, and then after that you can search your glyph.
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>>154154535
I got it now

Thanks, anon
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>>154153201
>Repugnant
Top kek. Rotted.
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>>154154759
Chalice dungeons are fucking weird, man. Some dude posted a really good explanation over the weekend and it was a pretty long post because there was a lot to explain.
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anyone want to come do martyr logarius with me?
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>>154155198
Sure, you at the fog?
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>>154155409
yeah man, pass is 123
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>>154155198
Rozalski?
>>
>>154155409
cheers anon, good fun
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>>154155789
>Rozalski
nah simon stalenhag
>>
>>154156032
Oh shit, never heard of him before, but his style and content is super similar to Jakub Rozalski. I love it.
>>
Some people have told me you get a theme for getting plat in BB, is it true?
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>>154156331
yeah its all set in a consistent universe as well. Its very good stuff.
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>>154140635
>>154140821
>Life is Strange
If you unironically enjoy this, please kill yourself.

And you, >>154140821, autism isn't attractive. Please remove yourself from the gene pool.
>>
Is it just me or is the Orphan of Kos pretty hard? Only fought him once so far but he hits really hard and seems to have plenty of health.
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>>154124860
It will probably stabilize framerate and enhance the graphics. It's down to Japan studios to update it though.
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>>154061642
AWOOOOO~

-Micolash
>>
first time bloodborne player on ng+, is my build retarded?

>41 vit
>32 end
>50 str
>14 skl
>8 bld
>50 arcane

i use the cutter mainly with a little holy moonlight for shit like the shark giants
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>>154159576
For PvP? Yes.
For PvE? No build matters.
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>>154159576
>32 END
DED ON ARRIVAL
If it ain't base END or 99 END Scrap it.
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>>154160025
>99 END
Can't tell if serious or just a spicy maymay
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>>154159576
Honestly it's a fucking mess, but you're a first time player so I can't really blame you, I did the same thing, but for future builds, you don't really need more than 15 end, you can get runes to increase the amount for free
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>>154160229


>>154160025
>more people mentioning 99 END
Brings a tear to my eye
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I have questions about some of the details of Bloodborne's story/setting. Haven't completed DLC yet.

>What are bath messengers
>What determines when a Hunter becomes blood-addled (goes to nightmare?), becomes hostile (Henryk and cathedral guy), or can be permanently killed?
>If real Iosfeka is not a murderer, did fake Iosfeka dump ALL those bodies behind the clinic in one night?
>Why are the giants in the poisonswamp before the clinic wearing bells?
>If Old Yharnam had to be burned, and Yahar'Gul was fucking vaporized by a cult, why does anyone still live in Yharnam, especially if the hunt is a regular thing?
>Why do people go to Yharnam for blood ministration if, according to the constable set, other places also have beasts (and thus blood ministration)?
>If incense wards off beasts, why don't hunters have any?
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Can't beat Orphan or Laurence, my dudes. Anyone know that feel?
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>>154043598
>fewer red spider swarms what the fuck

Those fucking bastards, on top of that sometimes the bell maidens are in two different rooms so you have to speed run to kill them before exploring the chalice.

But I would play a game that consisted entirely of chalices.
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>>154160634
>Orphan
Yes, I had to ring for help.
>Laurence
Me and Valtr fucked him good.
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>>154160431
>>What are bath messengers
Phtumerians, people assume
>>What determines when a Hunter becomes blood-addled (goes to nightmare?), becomes hostile (Henryk and cathedral guy), or can be permanently killed?
Everyone's susceptible to beasthood, which determines if they're hostile. To be blood addled is to lose yourself in the hunt.
>>If real Iosfeka is not a murderer, did fake Iosfeka dump ALL those bodies behind the clinic in one night?
It's unclear whether the bodies were dumped by her or were just dumped there due to the beast scourge. You see bodies wrapped up all over central yahrnam.
>>Why are the giants in the poisonswamp before the clinic wearing bells?
No idea.
>>If Old Yharnam had to be burned, and Yahar'Gul was fucking vaporized by a cult, why does anyone still live in Yharnam, especially if the hunt is a regular thing?
The night of the hunt is weird, I don't know much about it, but time doesn't seem to work as usual.
>>Why do people go to Yharnam for blood ministration if, according to the constable set, other places also have beasts (and thus blood ministration)?
It's presumed all the other places have been lost to the beasthood, as Yarnham currently is going through.
>>If incense wards off beasts, why don't hunters have any?
Why would they scare off their prey?
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>>154160785
>Valtr
Wat? Where's he?
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>>154160871
If you squash enough vermin and complete his quest, his summon sign is right inside the cathedral door.
Think you need five.
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>>154159576
Too much END, otherwise it's fine. For future reference, 99.99% of the time you never want more than 15 END.
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>>154160431
>What are bath messengers
Native inhabitants of the Nightmare, that's all really

>>What determines when a Hunter becomes blood-addled (goes to nightmare?), becomes hostile (Henryk and cathedral guy), or can be permanently killed?
Basically, getting obsessed and consumed by the hunt, by the blood. Henryk was going blood-addled, that's why Eileen was hunting him, she hunts blood-addled hunters. Some hunters dream, some don't, it's not clear.

>>If real Iosfeka is not a murderer, did fake Iosfeka dump ALL those bodies behind the clinic in one night?
Real Iosefka probably did dump those bodies, they might have just been dead patients, she did run a hospital after all, in a city where people turn into monsters.

>>Why are the giants in the poisonswamp before the clinic wearing bells?
Honestly no idea. Maybe like lepers to warn people of their presence.

>>If Old Yharnam had to be burned, and Yahar'Gul was fucking vaporized by a cult, why does anyone still live in Yharnam, especially if the hunt is a regular thing?
Because no one really knows about either of those anymore, Old Yharnam is locked up and forgotten and Yahar'gul is a complete secret.

>>Why do people go to Yharnam for blood ministration if, according to the constable set, other places also have beasts (and thus blood ministration)?
Because blood turning people to beasts is a secret, the church doesn't want it known they're directly responsible, and Yharnam is the home of it all famously and they can treat anything with their miracle cures that outlying places probably don't. Church controls that shit tight.

>>If incense wards off beasts, why don't hunters have any?
They don't want to ward them off, they want to find them.
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>>154160859
>Pthumerians
I guess that explains them supporting the Hunter. What about the Queen? Why is her child important, and why is she hostile in the dungeon?
>beasthood
So Eileen hunts the bestial hunters, and those who absorb blood echoes (the description cites hunters reverence of ) without some degree of control go to the nightmare? Where do those who are out of dreams go? (referring to Eileen and Djura's dialogue)

>dumped due to beast scourge
That makes sense.

>lost to beasthood
So Yharnam is the last city of men, essentially? I assumed beasthood came from blood minstration, which was unique to Yharnam since Brygenwerth scholars found blood ministration in the ruins of Loran and then founded the Church.

>scare off their prey
Isn't the idea to get rid of beasts? And they seem adverse to the incense but not afraid of it, like the dog outside the old woman's door or the beasts around the Cathedral Ward. Like it just masks the scent of prey, i.e. hunters could be invisible to beasts.
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>>154161104
>Honestly no idea. Maybe like lepers to warn people of their presence.
Yeah, it's mentioned that the Church Giants wear bells so that the citizens of Yharnam know to stay indoors when they're out and about. The ones in the swamp probably got lost down there.
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I really have no idea how much weed you guys have to smoke to piece this story together but I'm glad that you have. I enjoy reading it.
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>>154160634
Laurence is a cake walk. First use the saw cleaver, next don't lock on, just before he swings his arms or makes any attack dodge towards him the iframes will protect you and you will be positioned in his blind spot make a couple of hits then retreat.

That's how I beat almost every large beast boss in BB.
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>>154161439
Not weed anon.
Autism
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>>154161307
>So Eileen hunts the bestial hunters, and those who absorb blood echoes (the description cites hunters reverence of ) without some degree of control go to the nightmare? Where do those who are out of dreams go? (referring to Eileen and Djura's dialogue)
Yes, she mentions Gascoigne. If a hunter doesn't dream, they just die. If they're blood addled, they go to the hunter's nightmare it seems.

>So Yharnam is the last city of men, essentially? I assumed beasthood came from blood minstration, which was unique to Yharnam since Brygenwerth scholars found blood ministration in the ruins of Loran and then founded the Church.

I doubt that, but the last city of blood ministration probably.

>Isn't the idea to get rid of beasts? And they seem adverse to the incense but not afraid of it, like the dog outside the old woman's door or the beasts around the Cathedral Ward. Like it just masks the scent of prey, i.e. hunters could be invisible to beasts.

The hunter's real job is to kill the beasts to cover up the church's involvement and stop people linking the two. Incense keeps beasts away, hunter's don't want that.
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>>154161464
Not sure I'm picturing what you're describing. I don't use the saw cleaver but I imagine the general idea would translate to other weapons? I'm mostly an axe man, also have LHB maxed.
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>>154161307
No. It is implied there are more cities outside of Yharnam, people go there because they get cured ASAP however the blood of Yharnam makes people turn into beast and this also was intended by the healing church. I don't know for sure when or where they learned blood ministration but they learned from the chalices, Loran, Isz or Pthumeru, it's not clear
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>>154162123
Ebrietas seems to be the "source" of the healing blood, doesn't she? So that would make it the Isz chalice.
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>>154162256
No, Ebrietas isn't the original source of the blood. She was found by the Choir a while after the Church was established, and while her blood contributed to the creation of the Emissaries, it wasn't what started the whole thing.
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>>154161104
>hunter doesn't dream
I suppose this is where most of my confusion is. Blood echoes mention they invigorate hunters sustained by the dream, and the umbilical cord says that hunters were beckoned by the Moon Presence, which also created the Hunters Dream (and the messengers along with it).

So...the Church finds blood ministration in Loran, and how to make contact with the cosmos in Isz. They bring these things to the surface, use blood to cure everything and the Isz Chalice to meet Ebrietas. I assume they also get the Chord from Ebrietas, who would have lost her child, and the chord gives the Choir access to the Moon Presence. Then the Moon Presence creates the Hunter's dream and sustains the hunters, who are members of the church, with the purpose of...killing the beasts that result from blood ministration? But hunters who enjoy the violence of the hunt too much become beasts themselves, and those who don't absorb too many echoes and go to the Nightmare. Some escape the dream and die, to reawaken in the real world, according to the Burial Blade, tombstones in the Dream, and one of the endings.

So what the fuck does the Moon Presence want, if it gives the hunter the means to kill Mergo, and prevent the end of Yharnam? MP is good guy?
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What does /bbg/ listen to while doing chalices?
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>>154162602
Pink floyd
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>>154162256
Who the hell knows, personally I think the healing church found blood ministration, Ebrietas, phantasms ect. In such a short amount of time they didn't know how to connect this things or how to handle all those revelations properly.
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>>154162602
The entire Top Gun soundtrack
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>>154162460
Dreaming Hunters are chosen by the Moon Presence to do what it wants. Killing Mergo had little purpose other than finally getting rid of a presumably illegitimate child between a human and a Great One, because Mergo is the child of Queen Yharnam. Once the Hunter fulfills their contract, they are killed and awoken from the dream. There's only one dreaming Hunter at a time, the rest are just normal. Eileen and Djura were both dreamers once, and both were freed after doing their jobs.
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>>154162602
Mostly I don't because I'm listening hard for the sound of a bell maiden and her army of red spiders.
I can suggest a few though.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HumvP3NyDyk
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXr71Rmvcaw
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW0liCzmyls
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imCm6CrNZ8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHgZRGLgo0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J417T5crtm4
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>>154161464
I am having a LOT of trouble dodging this cunt for some reason. His attacks don't look different from shit I've been dodging left and right all game long but he just seems to have crazy reach. I'll figure him out, he's just not the cake walk I predicted looking at him.
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>>154161439
>dude weed lmao

It's just a good story, my guy, it's intriguing and interesting.
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>>154162602
I haven't done much chalice shit but I was playing Skinny Puppy while doing them this weekend.
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>>154163042
Yeah, he seems like The Cleric Beast at first, but he's got some surprising range on him. The little blast after his ground punch always gets me.
You're wearing the Charred Hunter Set, right?
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>>154161439
ah Pot, or as some say, Potm
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>>154162602
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay OST
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>>154163165
Kek I just can't make sense out of it. I agree it's cool, I just can't put all the tidbits into a whole picture like some of you dudes.
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>>154162602
Podcasts, I listen to the H.P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast, A Podcast to the Curious, Lore and Blurry Photos.
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>>154163179
Nah I don't have that one, where's it from? I'm using the weeaboo suit, best fire resist I have.
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>>154163435
It's in Old Yharnam, check the wiki for the exact location because it's been awhile since I got it.
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>>154162256
she's not the original source of Old Blood, but she probably became the main source of it after her discovery(well her and the Blood Saints that the Healing Church creates)

similarly the Forbidden Blood that Cainhurst used probably comes from Queen Yharnam

>>154162460
more likely that Laurence and the Church Founders got their first Chord from Kos after the Fishing Village Massacre

>>154162890
>There's only one dreaming Hunter at a time
not entirely sure about that, there could have been more than one at a time in the past, but current Yharnam didn't exactly have many worthy candidates before the Player Hunter arrived in Yharnam
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>>154162890
Makes sense. How do you know only one Hunter dreams at a time?
Do non-dreaming hunters care for blood echoes?

I figure all Great Ones are illegitimate since they lose any children they conceive. So Moon Presence doesn't want another Great One to be born (Mergo leaving Nightmare of Mensis), which also explains why it fights the Hunter after consuming three cords, which would turn the Hunter into another Great One.

So MP is an enemy of the Great Ones, hunters are instruments of the MP to kill beasts and potential Great Ones...but the MP is allied with the Church, who brought both beasts and ayylmaos?
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>>154163541
If he's talking about the Yamamura set, the full thing actually has 100 more fire resist than Charred Hunter.
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>>154163697
Really?
Fuck.
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>>154161664
Roll into his body just before he attacks, not after on in between the attack, is hard to pull of but it works, and if you do it correctly you will be behind him then attack and retreat.

I guess this is better, sorry english is not my first language.
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>>154163697
Yeah that's the one. I was drawing a blank, just knew it was some nip.
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>>154163689
I think the Moon Presence is it's own thing. I don't think it's really allied with the Church, and it probably doesn't much care about the Beast Scourge. I think it just desires blood. I'm guessing that if you submit to Gehrman he would channel your echoes into it.
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>>154163308
It is intentionally left vague and in the background, it took a lot of late night discussions on /bbg/ to piece it all together. Good time well spent in my opinion.
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>>154163689
The Moon Presence's existence is probably unknown to almost everyone, most likely. Laurence certainly knew, but I doubt he told anyone, otherwise we'd be seeing statues of it everywhere rather than Amygdalas.

There's a theory that the MP is the one originally responsible for the Beast Scourge, and brought it down upon Loran and Pthumeru as a punishment for illegitimate children had with Great Ones. The Blood Moon represents MP, and also sends the Scourge into overdrive. If you want to look even further into symbolism, there's the fact that the MP itself is very beastly in its moveset, thrashing about wildly as the various beast bosses did.

So the MP is probably no one's friend.
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Damn had Laurence down to about a quarter using Valtr as a meat shield and hitting from behind but once Valtr died I was quick to follow.
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>>154164091
I think the wiki points out that there's some similarities between the MP and Loran Silverbeasts, ie the exposed ribs and the sideways-twisted face.
Maybe the MP caused the Beast Scourge to feed itself? If it feeds on Blood Echoes for example.
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>>154164439
That's possible. Since it uses the Hunters to take out other Great Ones, it's also possible that this whole thing was planned from the start. Cause the Scourge, and when humanity needs help, it'll show up offering salvation when it's really just looking for pawns to do it's bidding.
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>>154159820
>>154160270
>>154161007
sounds good, i dont pvp so yea retard build.
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>>154164306
Yeah, it's important to take some aggro off Valtr every now and then.
He gets more Blood Vials than most NPC summons, so if you give him some breathing room he'll live forever.
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>>154164560
I think it's also important to note that the Great Ones are so alien to us that their motivations are essentially unknowable. Most of the Great Ones we encounter aren't even hostile to begin with, but their very presence is enough to drive people mad.
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>>154163997
Well, I say allied in that it empowered the hunters, who came from the Church. Don't know what MP would want with blood, though, which is said to be a source of human strength.

>>154164091
I could buy the MP being the source of the scourge, depending on the exact timeline.
i.e. the church finds ministration in Loran, then chord, then the Isz chalice and Ebrietas. The Church being cooperative with a Great One turns the MP against them and drives those with blood ministration into beasthood. The old hunters disappear, either turned to beasts or consumed by the Nightmare (I assume the MP created this as well, if it created the Dream). New Hunters are no longer allied with the Church, and instead are guided by Gehrman (who for one reason or another serves the MP, given that he had a chord in the workshop) and are directed toward killing ayylmaos, and church members along the way. Killing beasts is a side hustle.
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>>154164781
Less blood and more the Blood Echoes, which as far as we know only Dreaming Hunters can collect. The Echoes aren't used for Blood Healing, but to gain strength. You could argue that the echoes are a way for Hunters to actually "ascend", with 90% less Ayylmaoification.
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>>154164781
MP didn't create the Nightmare. That was created by the Orphan of Kos after the Fishing Hamlet raid conducted by Byrgenwerth. All hunters end up in the Nightmare, whether they just die or become blood-addled.

Also, it was Byrgenwerth who discovered Blood Ministration. Laurence would later split away and form the Healing Church with that knowledge, but ministration started with Byrgenwerth.
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I need a bunch of Sage's hair, but don't have the materials to open the ez farming chalices.

What options do I have other than getting to Layer 3 of Isz?
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>>154165332
>All hunters end up in the Nightmare, whether they just die or become blood-addled.
But then how did Eileen escape the dream and didnt imply she would just go back to the dream is she died?
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>>154165741
She was freed from the dream by Gehrman, just as you are in the Yharnam Sunrise ending. You don't actually die, you just forgot the dream and don't go back there when you die.
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>>154166030
>You don't actually die, you just forgot the dream and don't go back there when you die.
But then how did Eileen remember the doll?
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>>154166030
Do you forget the dream? I thought you just believed it all to be just that, a dream
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>>154157221
Based Emperor Pelagio drops another elite truthbomb
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>>154162602
I've recently been listening to a lot of Lamb of God.
This song in particular has me captivated for its meaning and catchy melodies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd_S1ZA11Bg
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>>154168017
I've been loving Sturm Und Drang as well.
512 works pretty well for Bloodborne.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVQqy7V6FKk
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Anybody want to help me with ng+ martyr logarius?
SL 99
Password set to shit3
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>>154168492
I'll bring my Chikky
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>>154162602
I've been obsessed with video related recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XKLqGqwLA
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>>154061642
MMMMM?
Oh, what's that smell?
The sweet blood, it sings to me...
It's enough to make a men sick

Hhhhhahahahahaha
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>>154171949
>a men
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BL69
19 Vit
12 End
25 Str
18 Skill
5 BLT
40 Arc

What should I do with the rest of my points?
I figure 20 skill for Rakuyo, 50 arc, then dump into Vit, though I'd end with 36 Vit at BL 98, low for PvP.

I'm leaning toward 28 STR/20 Skill/50 Arc, 33 Vit.

I get maximum weapon variety, but more of a jack-of-all trades master of none deal with low survivability.
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>>154172452
I can't even fathom having less than 45 Vit.

When I made a Rakuyo/Arc build I stopped at 117 with 45/ 15/ 10/ 44/ 5/ 48
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>>154172690
I've always kept my HP below meta in Soulsborne PvP. It hasn't always worked out for me, but imo Vit faces the quickest diminishing returns with player skill. Not that I win much.
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>>154172839
I'm talking about PvE though. FC dungeons every hitpoint counts lMO.

I respect that though. My favorite build in DaS only had 33 vit when everyone was obsessing over having at least 1900 HP.
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>>154173034
>FC
FRC*
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>>154173034
I've already cleared a few FRC dungeons, so not too worried.
My first playthrough of Dark Souls I invested no points into HP and played with a controller that had a broken shield button, so at this point low HP is just a point of stubbornness for me.
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>>154173147
Hah, nice. Well, to initial question then you might want to put a few more points into Arc depending on how often you use Hunter Tools. Most of them get huge gains from 40 to 50 as I recall. I ran a bunch of numbers on it a long time ago, but I'm having a hard time finding the document atm.
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>>154173338
Well, to answer your*.

Shit I hate hitting the damn windows key or whatever it is that makes me lose random words as I'm typing.
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