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Previous thread: >>153685620

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>153850956
>literally just in /gsg/ seeing somebody's screencap of reporting the latest R&I
>come back here
>see this
>wonder why /gsg/ has rapehorse as the OP

Not like this, lad, not like this.
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>>153850956
>>153851245
I fear to ask, but w-what did I miss? Scrolling through the previous thread doesn't seem terribly enlightening.
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Can anyone explain chalice dungeons? How do they work?
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>>153852813
Read the OP
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>>153853404
Which part? I don't see an explanation of chalice dungeons. I gather that you have to create them using ritual items (wtf?) But like once you create one, is it permanent? Or does it disappear after some period of time? When should I do them? What's up with the root dungeons? What's up with the ID codes in the OP and elsewhere? It's all rather weird tbqh.
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>>153852813
Chalice dungeons are optional areas into which you can go, essentially long dungeon crawler areas which contain some unique bosses, a few unique items (two armour sets, one weapon and the best runes) and most importantly, the best gems. There are four types of 'story' Chalice Dungeon, Pthumeru, Hintertomb, Loran, Isz, each one being made of several layers of varying difficulty, denoted by 'depth', depth 1 being piss easy, depth 5 being bastard hard. You will also receive, in these dungeons, root chalices which are randomized versions of the dungeon you're in. You can, when making a root chalice, add certain conditions to make the chalice harder and thereby get better items from it, you can make Foetid, Rotted and Cursed (FRC) Dungeons, Foetid and Rotted spawn harder enemies more frequently and make them stronger, Cursed dungeons halve your health but also allow you to receive Cursed Bloodgems, the best type of gems, but beware as they come with a negative attribute, anything from damage vs beasts going down to your health depleting.

You can completely ignore the other of the headstones on which you make them, I'm guessing it was something never implemented.

Lore-wise, Chalice Dungeons are where the ancient Pthumerians lived and the places Byrgenwerth discovered all the horrible bullshit that resulted in this game.
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>>153854003
Thanks based anon!
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What chalice did you guys farm off-shape blood gems? Because I'm using: y592byza
And I've got about 3-4 radials and tris and 15-20 waning gems. It's getting silly now. The last 10 million echoes earned from farming them have been nothing but waning gems.
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If I'm doing a 25/50 SKL/BLT build to make more use out of the untricked Bowblade and Chikage, is it worth going Lost for the circular BLT gem, or should I just stick to Uncanny and roll with 27.2's? I'm leaning toward the latter.
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>>153853643
>>153854003
>>153854648

More info!

Ritual Items are items like Ritual Blood, Tomb Mould, Bastards of Loran, etc. You find all of these inside the dungeons and they are only used for making dungeons, it's just crafting materials, basically. You get your first Ritual Blood in Old Yharnam on an altar for when you get the Pthumeru Chalice from Bloodstarved Beast, but from thereon out, you find materials in dungeons or you can buy certain ones from the shops.

When you make a dungeon, it's permanent, you can unmake it and remake it if you wish. The glyphs, those strings of letters and numbers, are unique codes for specific dungeons. To search for a specific dungeon using a glyph, you must have made the type of dungeon you are searching for beforehand. For example, say you're looking for an Isz Root Chalice using a glyph, you must have made an Isz Root Chalice yourself before that. The idea of specific dungeons is they might have specific bosses good for farming types of gems or they might contain valuable items in chests and such. It's a bit confusing at first, but it honestly all makes sense. Someone might say in this thread 'Hey I found an Isz root chalice with a Guidance tier 3 rune and two blood rocks, the glyph is dncj5gd', you would go to a headstone, select 'search by glyph', enter that ID in and, if you've made an Isz root before, it'll pop up and you can go in. If you haven't made an Isz root, it'll say you haven't met the criteria.

As for when to do chalices, you can do them whenever you want, ideally you should do them during the course of the game since that's what intended, or you can wait til NG+ go to in and fuck around. Chalices don't scale like the base game, they will always remain at the same difficulty. It's kind of satisfying watching depth 1 bosses die in three hits.
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>>153854986
If you're not going full BLT, then the circular ones will be useless to you. Better to have 27.2% more physical damage overall than merely 3% more BLT damage by comparison/
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>>153855000
Not that anon, but thanks for the info, man!

I've always been kind of rusty with them, and now that I'm doing an ARC build, I'm supposing I'll be going dungeon spelunking for gems and whatnot.
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>>153855000
You're really fucking good at explaining these things. I'd say you should redo the whole OP for the general going forward but it would still go unread.

Also checked!
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>Bloodborne 2
when?
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Level 85 here, where should I go to coop?

Should I just go to NG+? If yes, how alive is it and how do you deal with the damage plateau from the hard caps?
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Anyone have any good male sliders? I have several good female sliders, but none for men.
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>>153855596
Never, and it's probably a good thing because if it were made, you'd all sperg out like a faggot over how it wasn't as good as the original even though you knew all along that Bloodborne is a one of a kind masterpiece that Miyazaki couldn't match if he tried.
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>>153855743
Bloodbornelike game when?!
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>>153855878
Now this is a fair and valid question I guess. Depending on how you mean Bloodbornelike anyway.
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>>153854710
Anybody?
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>>153855623
NG+ only effects difficulty for you, not for who you can co-op with. Of course it resets the areas, you're limited to what you've unlocked, but other than that, you're fine to go looking for co-op.

The game is very much alive, and you'll find better co-op in harder areas and dungeons. Hell, I'm level 240 and I get pretty regular co-op in FRC dungeons.
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>>153856130
I used the same one. It's the best there is. A different chalice glyph won't change your RNG. Just grind.
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>doing SL4 NG+6
>spend an entire day beating Ludwig
>feel sad that I can't fight him again
Fuck, man. It was actually really fun to dodge him perfectly and learn his moves.

I hope they can implement a mechanic to refight bosses someday without having to do co-op. I'd love to fight Orphan and Ludwig again.
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>>153856249
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>>153855250
>>153855334
Thank you! I'm glad to help, they look pretty daunting but really they're fine.

As for types of gems, now that shit gets a bit complicated and still eludes me. All I know is cursed is best, and be prepared to make do with bad negative effects.
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>>153856274
Yeah, if you ask me, a lot of the fun comes from the bosses themselves.
Co-op is iffy for me, since the boss now aggros other people too. I just want to fight them solo.
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>>153858083
You got outplayed, really. You should have accounted for that.
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>>153858083
Those pigs are bullshit somtimes
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>>153858083
>he dosent know about the go-go gadget extendohead
You deserved it
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>>153858083
>now you're thinking with portals
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>>153850268

I just have to say, that is the greatest pic ever. Especially because I just fought that bastard yesterday, lol.

I have a BL 145 (is there a meta for this or BL150?) and I was thinking, getting to 50 of skill/str isn't really worth it, especially because my character is versatile as fuck

40 vit
30 end
35 str
45 skl
20 blt
25 arc

I was thinking of either maxing out skill but since isn't really worth it maybe getting 25 bloodtinge?

I'm currently doing the DLC at the Research Hall.
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>>153855596

It might actually happen.

I'm holding on to this and a new Armored Core.
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>>153861240
>BL145
>30 end
>no stats at 50
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>>153861812

do you have any insight or just memes?

30 end is great. Especially for blades of mercy.

I got to 45 and already start regretting it, the benefits aren't as great. And i'm specifically asking if I should max it out or put those 5 points into something else and if even there's a meta for BL145~150 builds and you have answered none of that.

I thought we were keeping shitposting to a minimum this time
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>>153861676
Nope, From said once they finish DLC for Dark souls they are moving on to "new projects"
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>>153861240
>BL 145
Sorry if this is a dumb question but why do people say BL? I get that it means level but what am I missing?
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>>153861987
>guy makes good points about your shit build
>just call him a memer and shitposter
Yeah ok dude
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>>153862185

And you're doing what? Fuck off faggot.

>>153862080

Blood Level. People used to say SL in Dark Souls
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>>153862080
Blood level
It wouldnt be bloodborne if you couldnt tac the word Blood onto everything.
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>>153861987
There's really no reason to EVER level END above 20, and most people play with 15 or less because stamina costs are so low and stamina regeneration is so high in this game. Basically you totally wasted 15 BL in END and are totally salty about it.
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>>153862327
Kek'd
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>>153862338

Honestly I would put at least 25 in it.20 if you want it at a minimum and uses low-cost weapons. Points wasted are points wasted. I actually really like the extra stamina cost, don't know why you're so salty about it. I can roll a lot and still hit a lot with a lot of ranged, fast, AND heavy weapons too.

How about getting to 50? Is it even worth it? I see a lot of builds that gets to 40 (sometimes 40/40) and puts those extra points in something else
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>>153861987
>I-I don't like ur opinion so it must be shitposting!
You spent points on the most useless fucking stat in the game, your build is a complete unoptimized mess, you don't have any stats at the second softcap, you are overleveled as shit and you use a shit weapon. Please consider deleting your character and making a more thoughtful build next time
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>>153862597
He is just trolling man. You almost always need 30 end on your builds. In your case I would level up arcane a bit for extra tool damage. Meta is around 150-200. This general can be super cancerous at times but usually we are decent people :)
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tonight, Gehrman joins the hunt
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>>153863064
We got Oprah here folks.
And YOUR a shitposter
And YOUR a shitposter
And YOUR a shitposter
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>>153861240
>50 stat not worth it
You might want to go back to /dsg/
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>>153863064
Oh boy, the salt is real. If you don't like "meta" so much then bring all your stats to 99, retardo. It would at least balance your shitty build out
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>>153863247
>you're*
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>>153855250
If you are using an Arc build make sure to get Lost weapons.
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>>153863247
>>153863370

The trolling is real.

>>153863095

Thanks man, but kinda disappointed with the tools actually. I use them more in specific situations, so I'm not gonna get 40~50 might as well just leave it.

>>153863412
>Oh boy, the salt is real. If you don't like "meta" so much then bring all your stats to 99, retardo. It would at least balance your shitty build out

But I kill faggots like you all the time. Why the fuck make two characters when I can make one that does everything? It gives me the "extra challenge" if you like gimping youre stats so much.
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>>153864040

Cool.
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>>153863095
>30 End
>He doesn't use 20% stamina runes
Nigga you best be getting new eyes because your current eyes sucks ass.
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>>153863685
That's helpful anon, thanks!

Chalice dungeons and lost/uncanny weapons and gems are kind of confusing.
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>>153850956
Oh god
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>>153864010
> I kill faggots like you all the time
Sure you are, tough guy
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>>153856274
Chalice dungeons were like the perfect opportunity to implement a boss rush like that, I'm surprised they didn't.
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>>153864181
They are just Gem Imprints.
Everything else about them are the same.

There are 4 kinds of Gem Imprints
Radial
Triangle
Waning
Circle

Circle is pretty much for Guns and Bloodtinge weapons
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>>153864172

I use a 15% sometimes. It's cool. There are better ones.

>>153864259

Did I offend you internet tough guy?
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The real Lvl meta in /bbg/ is 544
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>>153864660
Fuck are you talking about? The /bbg/ meta has been BL4 since launch.
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>>153864010
Level your arc to 40, it unlocks A Call Beyond. It's a laser beam and works well, but it is important to keep your arcane at 40 and not more because it's only really good for ACB. And don't let those shitposters discourage you. Also what
>>153864172
said. Equip the stamina runes on top of your 30 end so you can keep pressuring the opponent.
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What is "an extremely precious blood gem" as defined by the PSN achievement? I got an extremely precious rune but I don't even remember which one it was.
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>>153864737

I don't know I get more damage benefits from leveling STR than from leveling SKL to max.

I might as well pump up my arcane in a new game plus, thanks though!
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>>153864746

What PSN achievement is that? Blood Gem Master or something? Because I got that from finding a random gem in chalice dungeons... wasn't even a high level one.
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How do I into bloodtinge builds?
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>>153865219
You sure you're not thinking of blood gem contact? Because that's for any blood gem, whenever you get your first. But yeah the one I'm asking about is blood gem master.
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>>153864737
>so this is true spiral emojis eh?
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>>153865428
>bloodtinge to 50
>chicago
>good gems
>edge
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Updated the older FC image to include new glyphs. Is the font ok or should I change it to be more normal instead of BB logo esque
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>>153866579
Whoops sorry I fixed the bullets bit
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>>153851869
In the Grand Strategy General, some autist tries his hardest to start every single thread with "Reminder to report and ignore shitposting." I don't actually know if it's a bot or not because it's been beaten before.

But needless to say, it only causes more.

>>153864746
I got the achievement by picking up one of the gems in the DLC, I think a Murky from the Research Hall, so I have no idea what it's supposed to be.
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>>153868752
Reminder to report and ridicule reddit shitters
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>>153866778
You missed Hintertombs.

aqv8cim9

It's really only for impromptus, but it has a messenger shop in it.
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Alright, bear with me, /bbg/. I want to get into blood gem farming for my Lost Kos Parasite.

This is my set up for the slots:
RADIAL --> Arcane ATK UP +27.2%
TRIANGLE --> Arcane ATK UP +27.2%
WANING -->

Not sure what to use for the waning gem. Also, is a percentage based damage boost better than flat?

Or maybe I should be using uncanny Kos?
Sorry, this is my first time doing this.
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>>153864737
>>153866590
>not levelling END to 99
END yourselves.

>>153869271
You want uncanny. Flat is better.
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>>153869179
I'll put it in now. Is the layout/font ok?
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>>153869426
Yeah, it's fine.
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>>153869179
>Bothering with the Hintertombs when the Pthumeru glyph is depth one anyway
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>>153869497
Ok it's got hinter in it now
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>>153869271
There's best blood gem setup in the OP
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>>153866778
Is there a reason for that many glyphs? Shouldn't be better with only one?
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>>153869693
We have this many glyphs because we like to change the scenery sometimes.
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How long is the Pthumeru chalice dungeon?
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>>153870083
At least 5 chalices long
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>>153870083
>>153870835
Have to go through Isz, too, and Ailing Loran for materials.
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>>153870940
So pretty much all of them
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>>153870835
>>153870940
Kek shit, I thought I finally understood these things after reading anon's explanation above but I might need to re-read it a second time more slowly. One chalice dungeon is multiple chalices...?
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>>153871080
No, one chalice is usually three layers, occasionally four. There are five different Pthumeru chalices.
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>>153871273
Ah okay I guess the 3-4 layers was the answer I was actually looking for. I probably just didn't ask the right question. Thanks.
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>>153871401
And that's just the normal ones. There's also Root Chalices and Sinister Chalices but these are mostly for farming gems
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I want this guy to post his character sliders. She's a qt.
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>>153871687
>Maria
>no Rakuyo
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>>153871687
>Named Maria
>Full Maria's
>Trying to look like Maria
>Can't even use the Rakuyo
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What does a lost or uncanny version of a weapon even do?
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>>153872449
read the thread
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>>153872449
They have different shaped blood gem slots.
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>>153871080
Here's how they work, sorry I didn't clarify earlier

They can be broken up this:
Area
Chalice
Layer

For instance in the Pthumeru 'area', there's five chalices Pthumerian Labyrinth, Central Pthumeru, Lower Pthumeru, Cursed Pthumerian Defilement and Pthumeru Ihyll.

For the other areas, Loran, Hintertombs and Isz, there's only two Chalices. This doesn't count Root Chalices since they're kind of their own thing.

Within each chalice, there's layers, literally just different floors. At the end of each layer is a boss who will either drop a chalice, root chalice, or materials/gems/blood stones.

There's actually a very neat little chalice speedrun guide in the OP you should check out, it details which chalices are 'mandatory', if you want to fight the final unique boss of the chalices, who is required to platinum the game, and how and where to get the materials for all the chalices.
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>>153873509
Cool I think I've finally got it. Where is the Hintertombs chalice? I picked up all the others from bosses in the main quest but I don't have this one. Thanks again for your help friendo.
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>>153874770
Hintertombs is in one of the Central Pthumeru bonus rooms I think.
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>>153874770
Different anon, but you find the Hintertombs chalice in the Lower Pthumeru chalice. There's nothing useful in the Hintertombs, but you can get triangle gems from there if you need that.
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>>153873509
Also speaking of main quest, I'm at the end but haven't beaten it yet. Would it change anything about my progression in, or access to, chalice dungeons if I did beat it? I was told I can't keep running around the same world, that I'd have to start NG+, so I'm not sure if that would affect chalices or no.
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>>153875074
Chalices are unaffected by NG+.
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>>153875501
Almost forgot, I should probably do the DLC before Gehrman though yeah?
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Hey /bbg/, anyone up for some co-op? I'm level 92 and I need some vermin.
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>>153875674
Ayy lmao
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>>153874770
>>153875074
You find it in the second layer of Central Pthumeru, in a side area chest. Honestly, the only thing of real note in there is the unique boss, Forgotten Madman, if you beat him you get his spooky robes.

And you can do chalices any time you want, they are effectively entirely separate from the main game. NG+ cycles don't change a thing for chalices, not even difficulty, chalice are static. You can even start a chalice, stop, go into NG+, and pick up where you left off in that chalice. You could go the whole game without ever touching them, but you shouldn't, they are parts of the game after all. You get to keep all your all chalices and you have open will remain open in new NG+ cycles.
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>>153858083
I learned the hard way that big enemies can hit you from underneath.
A Church Giant once impaled me from the bottom of the Cathedral steps.
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STR build. Kirkhammer or logarius' wheel?
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>>153875674
That depends. Do you want to get fucked, hard?
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>>153875674
Considering how hard thoses bosses were for me just on NG.
yes
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>>153876103
I hear you get fucked hard in the DLC no matter what but I'm guessing that's a yes...Also >>153876235
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>>153875725
How would you feel going through NG+3 DLC with a beastclaw build madman?
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>>153876473
I'd say godspeed you fucking lunatic.
>>153876098
WHEEL
H
E
E
L
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>>153876098
Kirkhammer
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>>153876593
>>153876604
Im confused ha. I want to go wheel because it gets an S rank but i worry the moveset is shit.
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>>153876829
Moveset isn't bad, but as the anon that suggested Wheel it's a much saner choice to go Kirkhammer.
Follow your heart anon.
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>>153876829
Wheel without investing in arcane is pretty useless, since you are limiting yourself to only using the untricked form.
On the other hand, while tricked Kirkhammer is pretty fun early to mid game it becomes pretty shit at around late game, because blunt damage is the shittiest type of damage, since a lot of enemies are more resistant to it than to physical/thrust damage.
Go Whirligig
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>>153876593
>I'd say godspeed you fucking lunatic.

That a yes, my guy?
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>>153877114
Yes.
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>>153877114
>beast claw madman
if youre who i think you are, i hope to god youll be continuing in a few hours. i want to REEE again
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>>153876098
The true answer is BEAST CUTTER!!!.

Why don't you invest in both? All you need is 10 arcane to use the wheel. Untricked mode will be great, and no matter what your stats are dash r1 spam with Flat gems is powerful.

I use this build for my STR character except I fucked it up and went to 16 END and 14 SKL, so I'm 100. But at least I can use the church pick with Heavy Abysalls
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>>153877646
Then my ass is ringing at the Hunter's Nightmare lamp with bbgex

>>153877827
Oh I think I might be, my friend, I'm going for the whole DLC in one night
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>>153878383
On my way. We're super fucked, aren't we?
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>>153876829
Just know that the strength of the Wheel comes with its tricked form which deals arcane damage.
With the best move being the Roll/Dash+R1
The R2 is descent as well.

You don't even need to invest too much in Arcane to use the tricked form effectively.
Just get some good flat Arcane Gems (+65 to +72 ARC) which are straight forward in term's of farming. And shouldn't need any save scumming to get your hands on.
Flat Arcane gems doesn't leave the untricked form in the dust either.
As it starts doing ARC DMG as well.
The only bad thing it does is make the Wheel a bit one-sided in the type of damage it deals.
(but even then, it can be compensated by having another weapon that deal a different kind of DMG-type)

I got a Wheel build at BL:51(whose ARC is at 15)
And the transformed Dash R1 does around 570-600 DMG against other players. (Who has usually way higher defence-stats compared to the rest of the enemies in PvE)

Let's just say:
It's a gank-killer.
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>>153878575
Well I am level 240 with all three stamina runes on, so not necessarily, but probably yeah
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>>153878729
Alright, I'm there. This is the first time I've ever joined someone else's game, how's it work?
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>>153878792
Oh shit, just realized I don't own a resonant bell. One sec.
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>>153878792
Go to System > Network > put bbgex in Password Matching and ring dat bell

If I die, you'll go back to your world, if you die, same thing, after bosses you get sent back, too
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>>153878729
I'm back, you still there?
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>>153879240
I'm here, ringing at the Hunter's Nightmare lamp!
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>>153879345
Same. Will the level difference effect this?
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>>153879345
Fuck.
I got stuck and the boulder flattened me.
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>>153879863
No worries! Ringing at the lamp!
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Anybody farming gems that I can jump in with?
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>>153879908
Did you survive there? I'll be a the lamp if you're ready.
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>>153879908
If you want, we can cheese the executioner from Laurence's arena.
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>>153880203
Okay fuck the Cthulhu guard, you stay at the bottom of the stairs I'm gonna run in and grab the eye pendant
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>>153880478
Meet at second lamp?
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>>153881871
Ringadingin at the Nightmare Church, we're taking on the big boy now!
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>>153882004
be right there.
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I have the axe and LHB maxed out. What weapon should I do next? Got a strength/quality build and have NOT gotten the DLC weapons yet. Stake driver? Wheel? Or just save some gems for now since I do still have weapons to collect?
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>>153882004
Oh damn, got one-shot. I'll be at the nightmare cathedral if you don't win.
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>>153882058
I might have to break my beastclaw oath for this, I was barely scratching him
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>>153882649
Motherfucker is tough.
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Danish I'm sorry I'll stop being and ASSFAGGOT
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>>153883436
Lies.
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Anyone wanna hop in for NG+3 Ludwig? Could use a third.
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>>153883938
Sure
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>>153884051
Thank you friend, pass is bbgex, ringing at Nightmare Church lamo
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>>153883436
No please I don't want to abandon the dream
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>>153884117
Ow.
If you guys lose, I'll be back at the church.
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>>153884414
NG+3 does not kid around, this is nuts
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>>153884480
>>153884414

Didn't seem too bad.
Just don't follow him, if he's backed against a wall.
You'll want as much room for your dodges as possible, and not let him trap you in a corner.
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>>153884752
His jump is the biggest problem right now, just because it's a one-hot KO and it's hard to tell who he's going for.
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>>153884480
>>153884752
GET
FUCKING
HYYYYPE!
That was pretty awesome
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>>153885149
Whomever has blood dripping on top of them is the one he is going after.
But we got him anyway, so who cares.
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Thank you so much, guys!
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>>153885648
No worries, that was some good shit. I like that we all decided to goon poor Ludwig while he was trying to do magic.
I gotta go make food, thanks for the game.
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Anyone up for NG+3 Tard Hall?
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>>153886764
depends, are we REEEing?
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Anyone want to help me with Orphan of Kos? I'm level 74. I want to get the Kos Parasite asap.

Ringing near the praying dudes. Password is

Sorry in advance if I die like an idiot a bunch of times. I'm fucking terrible with Orphan, and his second phase gives me a new type of hell.

Also, to summon more than one person, I have to ring the bell again?
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>>153887267
>depends, are we REEEing?

'COURSE WE ARE
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>>153887681
I'll come help, think you forgot the password though.
Where do you want to meet?
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>>153887696
fuck yes, password? were gonna tear shit up
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>>153887779
Fuck, sorry.

Password is bbg

We can meet right at the fog wall
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>>153887857
I'll be there.
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>>153887818
bbgex my guy
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Anyone have a link to a map of the hunters nightmare?
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>>153887905
I really appreciate it, thanks
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>>153887987
Alright, ringing.
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>>153887937
alrright im ringing now, i aplogize for the wait
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>>153887987
Are you ringing yet? I'm getting nothing.
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>>153888373
Yeah, I was ringing. Let me go to HD, come back, and ring again.

Ringing now
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So I deleted my old chalice dungeons but a friend of mine wants my help at the bosses.

Can I just recreate them and go straight to their max depths/all the lamps or do I have to go through all of them again?
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>>153888540
Alright, I'm ringing and praying next to the snails.
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>>153888554
Use the short ritual root chalice
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>>153888846
Had the wrong password.
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>>153888540
Whoops. I'll be ringing again if you die.
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>havent done the DLC before
>start a new character
>go through all the ropes, stop at Mergo
>"im going to go through the dlc and rerun the main areas make sure I didnt miss anything"
>do just that
>well i guess its time for NG+
>Kill Moon Presence
>realize immediately after I missed Laurence
>wakemeupinside.jpg
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>>153889176
No problem, man.

Ringing right now.
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>those fucking research hall traps
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>>153889194
youll able to fight laurence after only 4 bosses

>>153889395
>1hit KO on both of us
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>>153889454
I know but i was hoping to face all the bosses for the first time on NG especially since all the trouble Ludwig and Orphan of Leapfrog gave me
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I keep forgetting beasthood messes with health.

Also, who the fuck is invading a level 240?
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Fuck, so close.
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Anybody want to carry this sl 66 casul through ludwig? Pass is "bbg", I'm ringing at the fog gate.
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>>153889176
Damn, I was close to getting him down.

I'll ring again in about 10 minutes. Gotta make a call
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>>153890069
No rush.
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>>153889937
>>153889937
well this boss sucks ass so just this once im gonna put clothes on
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Thoughts on the saif and/or boom hammer, famalam?
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>>153890119
Alright, ringing.
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I can't believe I fucking jumped into it
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>>153890119
My bad
Ringing again
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>>153890945
No worries, I went and let it pin me to a wall.
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Oh Boy!
I wish Ludwig dropped whatever rune that let's him animation-cancel!
That sure would be neat!
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Quad-star, a Failure hang around, I'm trying to draw him into the Maria arena, I'll probably die to her, so I'll be ringing there soon!
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>become vileblood
>Propose marriage
>gets rejected
Why is bloodborne so cruel, makes me want to purge and burn cainhurst to the ground
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>>153891361
Frollo pls go and stay go.
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>>153890990
No problem. I'll try to get his aggro more so you get less pressure on you

Ringing again
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>>153891328
wonderful, i wont be forsaking the beasthood for this one
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>>153891493
Ringing for Muhria
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>>153891462
need reinforcements?
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>>153891891
Probably a good idea, I just got stunlocked to death.
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>>153891891
Wanna join us? I'm ringing right now at the praying snails
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>>153892174
>>153892242
Alright
I'll try and go for Backstabs
I've jammed 3 Clawmark Runes on me so, my my Viscerals should pack some heat
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Is this game redpilled?
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>>153892352
Damn.
If he backs himself up to the wall, try to bait him out. If we get stuck we're dead.
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>>153892547
Yeah, good idea. Need space for viscerals.

Ringing again
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>>153892547
Also, Torbi-H, didn't you just help on the Ludwig fight?
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>>153892352
4400 DMG eh?
Not enough percentage-wise to be worth it.
I guess i'll focus on stamina instead.

>>153892547
Let's just bait him into the water from the start

>>153892668
Yes
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>>153891779
why is there a Living Failure in the same room as Maria?
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>>153892847
Fuck, my bad. Didn't see this post till it was too late

Ringing again. Bait into the water, got it.
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Jesus fucking Ludwig is ugly, familia.
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>>153892847
Gonna go top up my vials, then let's try baiting him into the water.
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>>153893076
No rush, man
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>>153892847
Ok screw stamina
I'll go back to Clawmarks again and save the backstabs when he's open
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>need to farm gems
>can't be bothered to farm gems
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>>153892905
Sometimes a Failure spawns just as you deplete the boss HP bar and it remains in the arena, you can make it follow you into Maria's arena
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Well that was pretty fucking cool.
I was down to my last vial for the last quarter of that fight.
Also, props to you for using a damn Rifle Spear for most of that.
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I can't thank you enough, you two glorious bastards.

I finally have my Kos Parasite. Fucking love you too.

Also
>three bolts in a row
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Well, we got him.
but...
Jesus Fucking Christ!
3 Lightning Strikes in a row?!
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>>153893714
>>153893721
>>153893753

That is most certainly a recording i'm gonna save.
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>>153893721
>>153893753
>Three bolts in a row
And I didn't dodge a single one.
Still, the boss spamming bullshit attacks is a good omen. I beat Ebrietas when she spent half the fight vomiting blood and charging me.
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>>153893928
You poor bastard.

I saw you standing there near Kos getting hit by the bolts over and over.
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>>153893997
I always panicked rolled into each one. Thank god for Golden Ardeo.
I managed to dodge the fourth one.
And wasn't their a point where he kept trying to lightning bolt but we just beat on him until he couldn't?
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>>153894116
Yeah, that was near the end. This was my first time ever doing co-op with people, and I gotta say, it was fun as hell.

Orphan is one jumpy motherfucker.
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>>153894223
I'm amazed how much ground he can cover in second stage.
Also, whoever was spamming A Call Beyond at him, jesus christ he almost killed you there at the end. I booked it over their from near Kos trying to draw aggro. Dunno which of us killed him.
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>watching a twitch streamer attempt BL4 run
>she's been stuck on gascoigne for like 30 minutes
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Right, once more Quad-star and I'm gonna have to call it a night
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>>153894558
no problem boss, lets get it
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Sweet, got enough Vermin to get Valtr's helmet!
Time to roll up to Laurence in style!
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How can i post WEBMs here?
It keeps decreasing the maximum file-size everytime i downscale the clip.
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Oh bless you Quad-star! My Whirli actually broke mid-L2, had to break out the claws.
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>>153895785
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

anytime my man, i look forward to our next session. i savescummed right before mergo so maybe next time we play, we can do ng+4 together
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>>153894460
Link
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>>153895950
Twitch
/matcha_frappe
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>>153896068
2 hours and 6 minutes to take out gascoigne. She was so much more enthusiastic and "twitch cam whore" persona when she started.
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Anyone got any cool Bloodborne wallpapers?
I'll post a few to start off.
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>>153896424
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>>153896569
trigger warning next time pls
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>>153896424
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>>153896569
>implying I want that piece of shit anywhere near my vision
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>>153896569
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>>153896424
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>>153896710
>>153896703
>>153896620
*slurp* *suck* *slurp*
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>>153896850
Micolash, fuck off.
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>>153896862
>>153896850
I need a Micolash wall.
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What do we think about /Nioh/ ?
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>>153896997
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>>153896997
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>>153897064
Did they change much from the demo? I didn't really like the demo due to the weird combat, but the game seemed like it had a decent amount of depth.
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>>153897064
Beta's alright, not a bad game just one that I don't particularly enjoy. Probably won't be picking up the full game.
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>>153897064
Still don't like it, still feels jank, a little unfocused. Souls/Bloodborne games are so good because there's few mechanics but they have a lot of depth and take a lot to get right. I felt overwhelmed by all the different shit I haven't even seen.

I would preferred a literal reskin of Bloodborne with samurai and yokai.
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>>153896620
Kek
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>>153897064
I definitely see the appeal, but it wasn't interesting to me. Combat in general just felt unsatisfying.
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>>153897363
They improved on a number of mechanics. For instance the lock-on has been properly implemented and durability is gone completely. I agree that the combat does feel "weird". Only 1 more day is left till the second demo ends. You should atleast give it a go since there's a new level.

>>153897372
Share these sentiments. Bloodborne's rhythm and reflexes are just too ingrained in me at this point so I'm unable to properly attune myself to Nioh's combat system since they feel quite similar.
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>>153897064
>we

Is the demo grew free?
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>>153897842
Oh awesome, I might have to check it out. One of my major issues with the demo was how you turned on a dime despite being locked on. It made dodging much harder. But if it actually pivots you around the enemy when strafing then it should be better.
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>>153897535
>>153897743

Maybe Bloodborne is just too polished and fluid which is why Nioh's combat and overall movement feels a bit "off" to us. Hard to pin-point exactly why.

>I would preferred a literal reskin of Bloodborne with samurai and yokai

Would have loved this as well.
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>>153898049
>Is the demo grew free?

Don't understand what you mean.
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>>153898116
Here's hoping the futuristic game that From has been working on has some elements of ninja.
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>>153898223
I don't know if Swype had some bad update or what but my autocorrect has gone full retard lately. I have no idea where grew came from. But yeah I answered my own question anyway. Downloading that nigger now.
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>>153898241
You're suggesting it as though Cyber Souls is confirmed.
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>>153895735
Nothing i try, works!

It asks for files less than 3MB in size
>Reduce frame size in Adobe Premiere Pro

Asks for removal of Audio
>Remove Audio in Premiere Pro

>Can't save as WebM on Premiere Pro so I have to use an online file converter

>Try it out again it still wont accept it!
>Says i need to remove Audio

>Online converter inexplicetly adds Audio Tracks even thou there was no Audio tracks to begin with!

What am i doing Wrong?!
What can i do!?

How are files like this >>153888554
and >>153858083 only 3MB?

I just wanna share rare, special, moments of my hunts with you guys...
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>>153898392
Damn straight. Keep in mind though that from what I've seen and personally experienced Nioh is especially more difficult for us Souls/BB because we tend to play it differently. You're gonna have to really persevere if you intend to finish the demo before it becomes unavailable tomorrow. You'll find that it has a surprising amount of content.
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>>153896850
Micolash pls
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While we're on the topic of Nioh I would love to hear the thoughts you lads have on this actual western Sci-fi Souls. Called The Surge.

Me? I would have preferred it if master FROM had been the one to do it properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kp8zWibhIQ
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>>153863178
kek
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>>153898881
>becomes unavailable tomorrow
Kek well...shit. I didn't see that.

So question for you or anyone else, these complaints about the controls, do you think it's the sort of thing that could be adjusted easily enough before the actual release?
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>>153896421
Bl4 runs are awful. I couldn't do it. I get too impatient for something that requires a shitload of time to do. When you know the boss it's not hard but between the time it takes to kill them and the caution you have to have. BL4 is just tedious.
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>>153899189
>Sci-fi Souls
I came
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Anyone have any advice for Ludwig?
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>>153900154
Dodge his attacks and hit him
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>>153900154
When he jumps up, blood and rubble will dribble down just before he drops back down, wait until then to dodge.
First stage he's pretty unpredictable, stay mobile and only attack when he's open.
If needs be, summon Valtr. He gets more blood vials than most summons and can carry you through the fight.
Don't let him die though. That's just mean.
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>>153900154
Oh yeah, he's weak to both fire and bolt, but fire does more damage in stage one and bolt more in stage two.
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>>153899798
It's not about the controls. The reason Souls/BB players have problems with Nioh is due to the core mechanics. Such as Ki Pulsing in order to regain stamina quickly. You'll understand what I mean once you play it.
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>>153900154
Bait him into attacking and try to dodge right under him. But, don't stay too long or else he'll stomp you.

That being said, his stomp attack is great because you can dodge right through that last hit and get a ton of attacks on him for a while. Watch out for those multiple bite attacks. That shit will kill you if you take every hit, so be prepared to always dodge at an angle from him lest you'll end up dodging directly into the hit at some point.

For that sweeping attack he does, you can dodge directly under home (kinda awkward cause his head gets in the way if you time it incorrectly) or just hop backwards and strike his head as it comes back.

Staying directly behind him is a bad idea. Also, learn the tells to his charging attack.
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>>153900545
The controls for Nioh are actually pretty tight. The only issue is that you can't fully chain different stance attacks. It's not as character action as I was hoping with the system.
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>>153900807
Nioh seems like a game trapped between Souls and a character action, and it's really not sure what it wants to be. That's the main problem I have with it, it does both but neither well.
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Is it worth pumping endurance to use the Stake Driver and not have to wait as long for stamina after the big R2
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>>153900337
I just got him, thanks to this sage advice.
>>153900347
Second stage was actually easier I think. He has some pretty serious attacks but it's easier to stay in control of the fight I thought.
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>>153899189
Gameplay looks very nice, but the set up and art direction are just horrible and too safe. Part of the reason people love Souls and Bloodborne are the different locations, the art design, Bloodborne is a gorgeous fucking game that's fun to just be in, to pick out details, that has amazing scenery. This doesn't even take the concept of industrial wasteland or ecological apocalypse to any extreme it seems, it feels way too grounded in 'reality', which is a shame.
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>>153901058
I think it can do both well it just has to flow better. For the most part, I do like it's system better. It's harder but without that bullshit magnetic tracking that's made me dislike Souls games.
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>>153901334
Exactly. They should have gone for a grim-dark neon cyberpunk aesthetic. With alien technology and crashed spaceships in the distance.

MIYAAZAAAAKIIIIIIIIII
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>>153901765
I would have preferred an Akira style over that.
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>>153901206
Nah
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>>153901893
But Akira IS cyberpunk friendo.
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>>153901893
>We will never get an Akira style souls game
Fucking kill me.
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>>153899189
looks interesting, although the combat system feels like it's missing something to make it unique, like Bloodborne or Nioh have

>>153901334
something tells me that it'll get crazier as the game progresses, what we've seen so far seems very early in the game
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>>153902054
It's a different type of cyberpunk. It was more realistic even in it's absurdity.
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>>153899189
Eh, combat looks very clunky.
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>>153901765
I just want something that sticks out. This doesn't. It look like anything. It looks like it's trying to be realistic. From the looks of it, it takes neither concept to the extreme, and I don't need Waterworld or Mad Max, I just need...something, man, something that doesn't look like hyperphotoshopped background concept art from some nerd artist's deviantart account. Going for 'realism' just makes it bland and western media needs to learn that 'realism' doesn't automatically make something good.

>>153902346
I'd like to think so, but I don't want to slog through hours of pre-packaged eco-disaster concept art to make it to something interesting. If this is my first impression, I am thoroughly unsold. I had this same problem with Doom, the art direction is utter shit even though the gameplay is phenomenal and even though I enjoy it, I know it could have been so so much more. I guess that's a personal bias, I take setting and direction very seriously because it's context for why anything happens in a game.
>>
Can someone help me take out martyr logarius pw bbg264.
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>>153902746
Maybe it's supposed to be that way until you get better weapons/armor with superior tech?
>>
Just started playing BB again. Is the PvP still alive, or has it died? If it's still active, what's the universal BL? BL100?
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>>153903204
NG or NG+
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>>153903254
That's an interesting idea.
>tfw it's hard going back to DS3 after BB because nothing feels as fluid

On a slightly unrelated note, how is Lords of the Fallen?
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>>153902346
Well it does that specific body part targeting system which sounds neat.
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Just beat Mergo's Wet Nurse for the first time. That MGS really tore through her. Fun fight I really shit myself the first time she used that special mist attack with the clone. I ended up doing a ton of damage by hitting the clone every time it popped up. Those stretching arms though goddamn.
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>>153901206
I think more stamina is a great idea
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>>153903204
Kek I don't know what I was doing there but good enough I guess
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>>153903384
>On a slightly unrelated note, how is Lords of the Fallen?

If you have PS+ you can get it free on the 6th
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>>153897064
Shillary pls go
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>>153904653
You honestly think that team ninja would hire people to shill their game here?
>>
Is Simons bow blade a scrub enabler or is it the meta?
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>>153904963
Yes have you ever been on this website? Any game that is getting posted before release is secret shills
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>>153903470
Her attacks are so elegant i love fighting her just so see those sexy moves
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>>153905098
Where do I sign up to shill games?
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>>153905383
Be on the marketing division at a gaming company
More specifically the online marketing team.
>spend time getting paid to post on 4chan
>??????
>PROFIT
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Anyone else go to shit while doing co-op?
It seems whenever I try to help people I suddenly forget how to dodge.
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>>153906208
I feel so fucking bad when I die during co-op, whether I'm the host or the summon.
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Does killing Rom affect the scenery in the DLC?

yes or no will suffice, I haven't done the DLC yet and want to see if I should check it out before killing spiderman.
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>>153906549
No, scenery is the same no matter what
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>>153905498
>I'll never be this lucky
Why live?
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>>153906208
>>153906435

>Mfw I purposefully lead hosts into traps

The pressure plates in the Forbidden woods are great.
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hey can someone help a fellow out?

logarius is raping the fuck out of me

i'll help you slay something gloriously in return
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>>153906208
I just helped an anon with Logarius and I was doing stupid shit left and right. Tried to parry with my fucking torch ffs. I'd been in a chalice dungeon previously...
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>>153906208
Internet connection might have something to do with that.
At least thats what i say when i die :^). But seriously yes, its the worst getting summoned by a random guy to help him on a boss and dying in the middle of it. Did he beat it? Can he go on without me? Godspeed hunter
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>>153899189
>from the Lords of the Fallen team
No wonder it looks so clunky.
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>>153906758
Gibe pass plos
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>>153906606
Thanks for letting me know, anon.
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>>153907010
sadfrog
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Picked up memewheel on my STR/ARC build. Comparing it to Ludwig's Blade at equal fortification/similar bloodgems.

The wheel is stronger its moveset isn't as versatile as Ludwig's. What's so special about it? Does it become a nuke at max fortification?
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>>153907205
>What's so special about it?
It is, quite literally, a wheel.
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>>153907205
>What's so special about it?
SCURGE
AND
PURGE
U
R
G
E
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>>153907093
hurry the fuck up nigga i'm just outside his area
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>>153907319
I hadn't noticed. Thanks anon, that's wheely helpful.
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>>153907093
>forgot to reach cainhurst first
I'll be there in a second.
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>>153907072
Np dawg
>>153906627
For the vilebloods
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>>153907430
I think this would look good on you
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What's the best shit to spend insight on? What do you bros think?
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Tell me your most embarrassing story, anons. BB related, obviously.


I once died to the Witch of Hemwick twice. I have no fucking clue how I managed to pull that off.
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>>153907431
Been outside the fog for abit, now.
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>>153907742
I usually buy all armor that is available, and once I've gotten that, maybe spend some insight on buffing consumables or upgrade materials if I need them.
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>>153907743
Got got by the Celestial Emissary
It changed into it's tentacle form, I didn't notice, jumped into a point-blank magic blast
That was pretty bad.
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>>153863178
The hype is fucking real.
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>>153907743
I deleted a character because they lost to the Living Failures
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>>153907839
same
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>>153908172
Damn... that's more cruel than embarrassing.

SMDH TBQH SENPAITACHI.
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>>153908276
You're not touching the fog, by chance?
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The third level of Lower Pthumeru is starting to actually feel like a real area. Actually got some pretty strong enemies in here.
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>>153907743
I summoned for One Reborn first playthrough, only boss I did so besides Ludwig. I kept running up to kill the Bell Maidens first, and it'd activate it's second phase(the vomit everywhere one), and I had no idea how to deal with that. However, right when I decided to summon(the NPC) I also decided to just rush in, so it was a joke as it usually should be. Literally said right afterwards, "So as I said, that boss is easy, I'm just shit.
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>>153908597
no i'm by the broken part of the fence
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>>153908738
Do people generally take out the chime maidens when fighting the One Reborn? I've only fought him once but I didn't bother. Just went to town on the boss himself.
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>>153850268
So is Ludwig the greatest boss in the entirety of the souls series?

GOAT boss battle, with that shift to second phase nobody saw coming before the DLC hit

GOAT theme. When the screaming chorus comes in during phase 2 my dick is strong enough to shatter diamond

Not to mention that fight has, arguably, the best NPC summon. He has great lore, and a fun weapon as a reward, PLUS he's one of the best 'gud' gatekeepers
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>>153908860
No, it literally makes the fight harder because it goes into it's obnoxious second phase. It's far easier to just attack the boss, regain easily makes up for any health the fire balls take away.

I was thinking it was Tower Knight all over again, but I was horribly wrong.
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>>153908413
I'm sorry anon, but I failed her. There was only one way to right my wrongs and that was to ease her suffering
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>>153908909
I'd argue maybe Orphan of Kos just because he's designed to completely screw with everything the game has taught you about dodging.
Otherwise yes.
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>>153908909
Fucking crazy ass design, too. That fucker is mad ugly. Don't know if he's GOAT but he's an excellent boss.
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>>153909027
I liked how fucked his design was. It was a different animal compared to all the others, and it looked more unnatural. Some fucked up beast that didn't develop properly. Then he fucking stands upright
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>>153909094
Oh yeah it was fucking awesome.
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>>153909094
The designs in this game do a really good job of showing stuff like that.
Like the werewolves. The way they walk is so damn unsettling, because their legs are jointed the wrong way, and they make no noise other than the clicking of nails on stone.
Ludwig is great because it looks like he fell in a fucking vat of mutant juice. I especially like how his mouth is lined with eyes.
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>>153908769
Just tried resetting, still nothing.
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>>153909253
>his mouth is lined with eyes
That was so fucked up and cool, yeah.
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>>153909094
His whole horse aesthetic made me want another non-werewolf beast boss. Something like a birdman, or something.
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>>153908172
I've did to those things more than once on shit characters. Arcane builds suck and at lol levels those combos + magic spam fuck you up. Especially when it takes a million hits to kill them.
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The DLC scales for NG+ right?

I'm level 96 and finally went back to beat Mergo and can now have the final boss fight. Should I get the DLC and finish it now or should i beat the final boss and do the DLC in NG+?

I realize I'm probably very over leveled for the final boss. I've been doing a lot of chalice dungeons and going back to beat all the optional bosses.
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>>153912168
>The DLC scales for NG+ right?
it does, so you should do the DLC before you beat the final boss
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>>153912168
I'm in exactly the same position.
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>>153912168
>>153912585

Do the DLC first.
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>>153912385
>>153912585
>>153912707
How will I stack up against the DLC at level 96? Is that under level? Over? Just about right?

I'm doing a strength build if that makes a difference
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>>153912707
Totally bruh. Just killed Ludwig earlier. I'd been playing for hours, had to put it down. And now I gotta crash shortly. It's 1am in west burgerland. Tomorrow's a holiday but I'm old and gay.
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>>153912975
Difficulty in BB depends on these things in this order.

Your skill as a player>gems>weapon upgrade>player level

At 96 I can garuntee you it won't be a cakewalk for a first-timer, depending on how powerful your weapons/gems are it might be easier than some make it out to be. But the bosses have more HP than many depth 4/5 chalice bosses, so it's expected to be done by decently leveled characters.
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So we can all agree that Shadow of Yharnam is the hardest boss right?
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>>153915159
No that would be Orphan.
Or NG+ Micolash
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>>153915159
they were pretty easy for me, but that's cause I didn't fight them solo, having both Henryk and Younger Madaras made fighting them much simpler

hardest overall so far would be Martyr Logarius
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>>153917317
>kill Henryk with Eileen
>can still summon him for Shadows
Also, did they remove Gascoigne's summon sign? I haven't seen it, or anybody else with him in what feels like a year.
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>>153917558
It's now near the fountain near his house.
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Requesting help with beating the Watchdog ; Pthumeru Chalice. Password is kos
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>Fighting Orphan of Kos for the first time : Win after hundred tries
>Fighting Orphan of Kos in NG+ : Win on the third tries

I mean what the hell...
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>>153907743
I got killed by the One Reborn with a buddy on Co-op. We've never died to him before until the one time we actually tried to fight him together.
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Is this game still alive?
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>>153922868
No. No Souls game is allowed to live.
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>>153926005
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>>153926005
The Vicar is NOT for twerk.
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>>153910610
I don't think a bird beast would work since all beasts have strictly mammalian traits. How about a bat beast with wings made from flayed skin BSB-style? Or perhaps a hairless rabbit beast with naked mole-rat teeth and legs like a jerboa? A quill covered porcupine beast? A sloth beast with disturbingly long arms and neck?
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>>153926753
> since all beasts have strict mammalian traits

Then what the fuck was going on in Forbidden Woods?
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>>153903024
I honestly want a sci-fi souls with blame's style to it.
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Did they patch out the vulnerability of Orphan of Kos' second form to backstabs? Because I've been looking up every tip video on earth for how to beat this fucker offline and they're almost all backstabbing him but I cannot. Can get through the first form relatively easily but as soon as the second form starts I either run out of blood vials or he gets a lucky AOE on me and I'm done.
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>>153928054
You can still get visceral attacks on his second form if you're willing to risk it. I'm not sure about backstabs; I haven't tried to on his second form.

I guess, make sure you're getting a hit directly behind him for the backstab. He jumps around so much that I can imagine it's tough.
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>>153926753
The Carrion Crows are considered as Beasts as well. Sure they weren't someone who turned into a crow but it's possible for a huge crow to be a boss, there's already huge pigs in the game.
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>>153928054
Try this. It's pretty easy, this character was a BL43 with 10/14 Str/Skl and 22.3% droplets.
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>>153928617
Carrion Crows, giant rats and pigs are all animals that have been eating corpses with the blood inside them, it fucks up anything it touches.
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>>153928815
Damn son.

Got a .webm of the second phase too?
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>>153929050
Orphan will keep doing this for the whole fight, so he won't even go into his 2nd phase. It's pretty cool since the game glitches and he's just left standing there.
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>>153928815
I'll see if I have the balls to pull that off, generally when he does that "I'M GONNA SWING" animation I'm too far away.
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>>153929159
Just parry any attack that can be parried to get the ball rolling. This one might be the easiest, probably the attack where he raises the placenta above his head to slam down even more.
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>>153927356
I guess I should have made my self more clear. All beasts that were originally human acquire mammalian traits only.

The snake men aren't considered beasts by the game, and the snake balls were likely regular snakes that became monstrous after being exposed to infected blood. The large ones appear to be covered in ticks, so that's probably how.
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>>153929129
That's pretty amazing, anon.

I'll be sure to try that on my next build
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>>153929312
I managed to "get the ball rolling" but then I also managed to fuck it up twice. First I mistimed the shot, second I just eviscerated him.

Then same as every other time, he went SANIC FAST in his second form and I couldn't do anything except heal and die.
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>>153929636
Yeah it'll take a couple of attempts to get down. I kept getting nervous everytime his health was around 30% so I'd fuck up pretty bad, with 20 Vit and full Beathood from pellets it's instant death. Had to take off the HUD to focus better, this webm was the successful attempt.
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Is Maria difficult for anyone else? I just fought her for the first time and she was fun but kinda easy. The fact that i could press L2 at any given moment and get a riposte was kinda embarassing
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>>153930286
I had a lot of fun with her (because I like one-on-one fights like that) until I realized you could just literally beat the shit out of her and riposite the moment you ran out of stamina. I'm surprised they haven't fixed her reactions to that strategy yet.
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>>153930286
Honestly, she's way too easy to stun. But, if you try to get through the DLC early, Maria is actually fun to fight.

That being said, I shat all over her with Augur of Ebrietas.
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>>153930286
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>>153922424
The one reborn actually got me a few times until I got down that swamp waste attack that he lays over the arena. That attack fucked me up.
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How hard are the final two bosses (that wheel chair hunter and the moon god) compared to Kos? Those are the only three I have left to do and despite helpful strategies and cheeses like
>>153928815
I'm close to giving up on Kos.
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>>153931478
A lot easier than Orphan, harder if you use the cheese for Orphan. Keep trying mate, even I had trouble with the bastard using this technique but once it clicked I could do this over and over.
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>>153931478
Gehrman is tough, he's fucking fast but the best thing about him is he's human, so you stunlock him and knock him over. He's quite parryable, too.

The Moon Presence is substantially easier, a bit intimidating, has some nasty tricks to fuck you up.

Orphan of Kos is FUCKING tough, he's designed to fuck with all you think you know about dodging. If you'd like, I can help out, Orphan is one of my favourite fights.
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>>153931642
I've given so much into despair with Kos that I'm just letting him kill me if he hits me at the start of the fight. So all I've done for the last half hour is die in three hits, then take the elevator back down and repeat.
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>>153931701
I appreciate the offer but I'm playing offline because fuck paying for PS Plus. Otherwise I would have used someone as a crutch a long time ago.
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>>153931758
Don't give up, anon. It's tough, but you can do it.

It took me a couple of hours of just fighting Kos in NG alone to finally bring him down. At one point, he had completely exhausted my blood vial supply.

Feel free to take a break for an hour or so. It really helps.
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>>153931642
>>153928815
He doesn't do this for me. Just tried it, he instead does his jump sideways dodge swing move. Do you have to be on his mom for it to work?
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>>153931758
Get some papers & pellets and savescum before entering the fog. If you fuck up then reload your save so you don't lose any items over it and keep trying my man. It's tough but it feels fucking beautiful once you've done it.
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>>153932078
Nah you don't, you could try luring him to the water as its more flat than the land. You won't fall, there's an invisible wall.
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>>153932094
>>153931642
Is that when Orphan glitches out and just starts standing there, like you said?
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>>153932201
Yup
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>>153932201
He does that because they never made a death animation for him in form 1, because they thought no one could kill him before he went to form 2.
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>>153932635
Ah, that makes sense. Pretty funny, too. I want to get a picture with Orphan some day.

Also, how did you get through Ludwig, Living Failures, and Maria at such a low level? Even at level 60, Living Failures were taking practically no damage from me and I had to cheese them through visceral attacks and parrying.
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>>153932201
This happens if he doesn't get the chance to transform to his Second phaze.
Which you can accoplish by pressuring him throughout the whole late-half of the fight.
(Usually by stagger-locking him.)
They never gave him a death animation in his first phaze, so the game doesn't know what to do with him, leaving him just standing around.
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>>153932753
Does he still stay there like that if you quit and reload the area? I kinda like the idea of having Orphan still standing there, just looking out at the sea. I never slay the nightmare on Kos's corpse because I don't want the sky to change.

The Coast is the comfiest place in BB.
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>>153932881
I've never hosted a still-living Orphan but i highly doubt it.
He will still be there after the cutscene if you kill his shadow.
But i think the game will de-spawn him when you exit for Hunters Dream or use a bold-huners mark.
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>>153932881
Orphan will be gone if you reload the area sadly so I took a couple of pics to make the most of it.

As for getting through the DLC at a low level, it was tough but I've done BL43 and lower runs a couple of times for Twinks. This one was my Blt/Arc Twink, pretty easy to be honest compared to my other Twinks. +9 Fire Saw Spear for Lewdwig and a Rapid Poison Chikage for Living Failures. Lady Maria was hell though, decided to put 19% Physical gems on my spear and stunlock her while Beast Roaring.

My stats are NS:23/8/10/14/18/20
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>>153931642
How do you make him do that?
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>>153933489
Kill him before he goes into phase 2, it's explained in a couple posts up.
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>>153933631
Right, thanks sorry for my ignorance
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>>153918065
Still need help?
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>Martyr Logarious
FUCK. There isnt a single playthrough where he doest give me trouble, anyone else or am I just bad?
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>>153936803
Pass and BL?
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>>153936803
His first phase is very easy for me, but things go south quickly with his second phase, especially when he starts doing that annoying flying sword shit and I have to take it down.

>tfw he once did it four times in a row
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>>153936896
You can backstab him to avoid the 2nd phase.
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>>153937027
He still goes into the 2nd phase he just loses the armor he usually gets from it
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>>153936890
Poorfag with no ps+. BL48. I know thats low right now but i need the vileblood badge for the chikage
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>>153937167
Oh that's right, forgot that was the reason to backstab him. Still helps a bit at least if you're going for parries.
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>>153937480
Oh yeah definitely, and you get some sweet damage from it too
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>>153937382
You can do it, anon.

Try parrying him on his second phase. It becomes incredibly easy because you can bait him into doing that jumping attack, and if you shoot right before he hits you with it, you can get a visceral attack.

It's actually a very easy parry to pull off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22rDXLcCzrg
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>>153936803
Yeah he's annoying. First phase is cake but I hate his second phase like nothing else.

>>153932094
Finally got Kos. Used all of my fucking health pots to stay topped off and burned all of my saved blood echos on health level ups. Finally got down to him being one hit from death and sonic rushing me so we just charged and slashed at each other and I got the hit in first.

Thanks for the encouragement.
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>>153937382
>Vilebitch having a hard time with Logarius

I am unsurprised.
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>>153937940
Good work.
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>>153937940
Nice job, anon. Feels great once you finally get it, huh?
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>>153937940
Congrats dude, I knew you could do it!
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>>153931642
Lol same
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>>153938128
Im just making a bloodtinge build i swear im an executioner at heart anon ;_;
>>153937632
Alright thanks anon, i always wonder how to deal with that move, its my bane of phase 2
>>153937167
Will do that as well, thanks for all the help goys
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>>153938279
He's fucking disgusting
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>>153938327
Noice
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>>153938512
He looks so sad.

I really feel terrible for him.
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>>153938498
>>153938687
He really is, but taking pics with him is cool as fuck.
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>>153851245
Reminder to report proof of reports
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>>153938235
It always does.
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>>153929368
What about the insect guys at Burgers and Fries? And the celestials at Iosefka's and at the Cathedral?
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>Want to start farming Arcane gems for my weapon
>have to wait all the way till Ebrietas to get to Isz
Welp. I'm using the best blood gem setups link in the OP. Is there an earlier place to farm good Arcane gems? At least, to carry me over till then?
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>>153939478
Those are Kin, which are aliens or people made into aliens. The Gardens of Eyes at McWillem's, as best as we can guess, were some sort of experiment to make people into artificial Insight shops, but ended up being monsters, like everything else. The Celestial Emissaries at Iosefka's are people turned into Ayys, they're the same kind of creature as the Celestial Emissary boss.
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>>153939514
You can snag some better fire gems from early depth hotdogs, but aside from that you're better off waiting til end chalices
There's also a good arc gem in the nightmare of menis by the big brains first location
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>>153939514
Celestial Ayymissaries in the Woods drop some, but I think they're like 10% so it's meh. Like the other anon said, 18% Arcane Droplet in Mensis. Two Hotdog Radials from Pthumeru and the Fire Waning below the Abandoned Workshop will carry you through most of the game. 20.3% Bolts farmed from lightning fish wizards in Lighthouse Hut, but that's far in the DLC. 16% Cursed Fire Radials from Lower Pthumeru first side room Fire Axe guys, their drop rate is kinda shitty though.
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Guy who was struggling with Kos here. Finally beat the game. Got the third ending, crow armor best armor.

I'm sure this has been discussed to hell and back already but I'm assuming it's been agreed upon that the third ending is the best ending?
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>>153938498
>>153938512
So, who's the father?
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>>153940651
Gehrman
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>>153940785
I understand that the church found this fishy hamlet with a dead great one at the shore but how the Orphan fits in this? Was he alive at the time or he was born as you walked in? Did it happen "naturally" or the church was responsible for that too?
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>>153941484
Byrgenwerth found the Hamlet, church didn't exist yet.

Orphan is a mystery because he isn't how Great Ones usually work - Great Ones usually lose their children, but Orphan lost his parent. Honestly, trying to figure out the nature of extra-dimensional alien creatures is a tad futile. I'll never understand why people think Gehrman is the father.
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>>153942218
What if the Orphan is actually the surrogate child?
That's why it's born fully grown
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>>153942218
>>153941484
I was le trollin niggas goddamn, no one really thinks that
.....do they?
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>>153942342
For whom? Moon Presence? I don't know how that would work, they had Mergo. I assume it's just been growing in the Nightmare.

>>153942354
I've seen 'Gehrman is the father' posted way too many times in lore discussion to think it's a joke.
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>>153942990
No, Kosm's surrogate
Also a slightly more likely explanation, someone in an earlier thread mentioned that it's possible that the actual orphan is probably to weak to be able to protect itself, so like Mergo's Wet Nurse Kos managed to create a guardian.
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>>153942990
Welp sorry i didnt think people were actually that retarded. Kos herself is a bit of an open book right? Looking around we dont seem to have any solid lore on her thats not pure speculation
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>>153943567
All we really know about her is that she washed up on the Fishing Hamlet's shore. Everything past that is mostly conjecture.
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>>153943176
It could make sense the thing we fight is a Wet Nurse-style guardian since the actual Nightmare Slain is the Sweet Child of Kos.
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I'm thinking of doing a run using a gun as my main weapon. I'm not really going to confine myself to using solely guns (I'm still gonna punch things, use items, and possibly the flamethrower if applicable). Does anyone have any tips on the best way to do this? Like what starting class/items I should grab early on?
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Can you apply lightning paper to a weapon that's gemmed for lightning damage?
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>>153947328
Well, first off, you're an absolute madman and I applaud you, you'll pretty much just want to pump bloodtinge to 99, start as Noble Scion, get the runes that increase your bullets and restore bullets on viscerals, for a weapon, maybe use the gun version of the Reiterpallasch for dual wielding if you think it'll be fun, or the rifle spear.
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>>153947450
Nope, any elemental gems (fire, lightning, arc) cannot be papered. Likewise for weapons with inherent elemental buffs, like Tonitrus or anything that deals piddly arc damage like the Blades of Mercy.
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Dammit, almost killed fucking Laurence but I got knocked into a wall by his firebreath and then it was over.
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>>153947328
Make sure to get a shit ton of bone ash
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Is Reiter + Bone Ash Cannon still stupidly overpowered or am going to have to find some new sort of cancer meme build to try?

(How's the DLC cannon, by the way?)
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>>153898793
Really late but... Have you tried WebM for Retards?(It's the actual name, not joking here)

You can just google it.
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I'm at the last step of the Eileen questline. Do I fail if I die to the Bloody Crow?
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>>153949612
No you can go back and fight him
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>>153949612
No. Which is good, because he's bullshit. You'll definitely die a few times.
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>>153949905
>>153949937
Alright. Thanks, anons
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Alright boys, I've beaten every DLC boss.
Time to take the fight to Mergo.
Wish me luck!
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>>153950267
Congrats, man.

Don't worry about Wet Nurse; she's easy.
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>>153950267
Oh Wet Nurse will be a pushover compared to that stuff!
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>Upper Cathedral Ward
>dark
>creepy as fuck music
>insight sucker guys
Sincerely fuck this place.
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>>153939514
Have you not tried savescumming before?
All you need is a USB Drive.
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>>153951776
Best place in the game, spooky as fuck

The theme for the area is called Soothing Hymn
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>>153951624
>>153950378
Man, you guys weren't kidding, killed her first try with only 15 vials left.
Fucking spooky though.
Alright, time for Gehrman!
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>>153953418
You planning to do another playthrough, anon? It's a ton of fun to try out other builds.
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>>153953725
I actually have a DEX build running right now, after I beat the game I'll go back to that one and try it out.
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>>153952208
Shit, never considered that before. It seems easy enough anyways. There's little chance of me fucking up my save entirely, right?
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Which DLC str weapons are good for STR/ARC? Apart from MLGS.

Beastcutter looks cool as fuck, so does Boom Hammer.
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>>153954031
WHIRLIGIG SAW
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>>153954031
Where is the beast cutter? Trying to find a couple that I missed on my first trip through the nightmare, and that's one of them.
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Goddamn, Gehrman is fast got him down to his third stage then he fucked me right up.
After I kill him, do I get any more vials before fighting the Moon Presence?
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>>153954582
>After I kill him, do I get any more vials before fighting the Moon Presence?

Nope! But you can mark out and get some before it can touch you.
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>>153954649
And if I die fighting the thing, do I have to beat Gehrman again?
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>>153954458
I don't remember the exact location, but it's in the beginning. One of the items on the ledges in between the lamp and the Grand Cathedral.
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>>153954804
Ah shit so I'm retarded then? Or is it easy to miss? Neither would surprise me tbqh.
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>summoned for Logarius
>exchange gestures, use phantasm shell
>Slow walk to fog gate, look fly as hell
>enter fight, run straight into slow-moving projectile attack and die

Sorry, good hunter...
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>>153955074
Happens to the best of us, anon.

I completely missed Eileen's questline during my first playthrough of BB.
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>>153955213
I got Eileen but missed other NPC's. Hard to be totally thorough
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>>153955074
I dunno, man, I found it while progressing through the level, which for me meas checking most nooks and crannies. It wasn't in an obscure location though.
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>>153954458
It's the small red dot
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>>153954734
You don't.
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>new playthrough
>ez mode, cutting through game, spending extra echoes on blood vials
>fat stacks in storage, 200-300+
>get to church hunter at Eileen's quest
>7 vials left.


My hubris too great. I fucked up.
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Anyone use the amygdalan arm? It looks cool as fuck.
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>>153956394
Nothing is more stressful than going to check your storage after a number of brutal losses.
>tfw Orphan of Kos obliterates my vials
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>>153955803
Thanks anon. I can't picture where that is but I'll head there now and I should be able to figure it out. Will I have to kill the Cthulhu executioner again to get near it? If so, so be it, but he's easier avoided imo.
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>>153956394
>Reach the second lamp of the Fishing Hamlet and take out that once anchor shark waiting near there
>Think I'm hot shit and decide to go down the well
>Learn that I am, indeed, not hot shit
Over confidence is your worst enemy.
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>>153867635
Just got this from a gem in the nightmare close to the research hall. No idea if it's the same one but fuck it.
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>>153957443
nah its just before the burning ball
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>>153956619
It's really really fun, not the strongest weapon, but it has great range, rally and the charged R2 not only slams enemies, but it actually does three attacks.
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>>153957938
Not sure I was reading that map right at all but found it based on this comment so thanks!
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>>153930286
>mfw bullying her with the Beast Roar reset

I hope other people know of this because it is super fun to bully her like this
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>>153956881
>>153957445
Yeah, combo and dodge near-perfectly for a while and you forget what one mistake can mean. Take one massive hit you didn't intend to take and you remember that even gods can bleed.
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>>153958834
How do you mean reset?
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>reload after long break
>have already killed Amelia (which I did after the witch)
>have no idea where to go now
what do
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>>153960708
The paasssssworrrrrd...
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>>153960707
Basically, start beating her face in, she'll get stun locked. Keep going until you're out of stamina, and then use the Beast Roar to send her flying back. This will allow you to get nearly all your stamina back, and she won't dodge away or attack, allowing you to stunlock her and repeat the cycle
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>>153960708
Interacted with the skull behind Amelia?

If you have, head down the stairs till you get to the area with those two giants. Make a right and follow the path.
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This research hall is pretty freaky fampaitachi.
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>>153961293
Watch out for the traps.
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>>153956619
Yeah, it's a pretty good weapon.
The untricked mode is useless against other players, but it feels so weighty, it's a joy to use.
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>>153960983
Oh that! That's been my strat for ages! Best bully.
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>>153961293
Look out for raised tiles on the ground, don't step on them.
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>>153961293
plip plop plip plop
splish splash splish splash
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>>153961425
>>153962315
Shit, like that one? Kek
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>>153963231
I shat bricks when it happened to me.
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When do chalices not cost materials?
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>>153963293
This whole area is kinda brick-shitty desu.
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alright theread, Rom's dead, everything involving Cainhurst is done (including the fucking bloody crow), Lower Hintertomb clear (for all the fat lot of good it did me).

Do I take on nightmare frontier, the one reborn, or go fight the undead club/hook giant in lower putuherumeru? (BLT build working towards 50, w/+9 Chikage, technically still my first playthrough since I deleted my previous character around the same point)
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>>153963452
Literally never. Making new ones costs materials. You can search for glyphs for free, though, but you need to have had made that particular area before.
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>>153963482
I was confused about what to do at this point too. Do Yahar'gul. It's a fun area. Probably my favorite in terms of design.
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>>153963789
>Do Yahar'gul
>It's a fun area
>Probably my favorite in terms of design

You're a fucking madman, my guy
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>>153963789
>Do Yahar'gul. It's a fun area
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>>153963789
is there more to it after the one reborn fight? literally at that fog gate now

I agree its aces in terms of style but goddamn is it a fucking pain in the ass to explore
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>>153964001
Kek it's a tough one but enjoyable. I fucking love the aesthetic. Chime maidens are fucking cunts though. That was a pretty gay idea.
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>>153940651
>>153940785
>>153941484
>>153942218
>>153942342
>>153942342
>>153942990
>>153943176
>>153943567
>>153947142
to quote my self from a couple threads ago;

>I figure that the Waking World version of Orphan wasn't actually developed enough to be anything worth fighting, the Orphan of Kos you fight is a Nightmare reflection of Gehrman created to guard the Sweet Child, similar to how Mergo's Wetnurse is clearly derived from the Shadows of Yharnam(as they protected Mergo's original mother Queen Yharnam)
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>>153964807
Nah you've played through it. I right realize you were already at his fog. He's easy compared to Rom or Logarius so go have at it.
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>>153964854
Chime maidens and respawning enemies are the bane of my existence.

Luckily, once you've been through Yahar'gul, it's easy to just rush and take out the maidens ASAP.
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>>153965017
I didn't realize, rather
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>>153947328
start with Threaded Cane as your weapon(as much as you want to, you're going to need a weapon early on till your Bloodtinge is higher), then get the free Rifle Spear in Old Yharnam, maybe the Reiterpallasch when you get to Cainhurst as well, also the free Flamesprayer Gilbert gives you after you reach Cathedral Ward will be a godsend for you in the early game
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Now im waking up! And i'll forget everything!
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>>153940785
Gehrman is the Orphan
This is his punishment and why the nightmare exists
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>>153965485
Yeah, and Micolash is actually Queen Yharnam dreaming amirite?
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>>153965652
Of course, what do you think she meant when she said "beasts all over the shop"?
It's a Kos reference.
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>>153964854
The Amygdala are what make it shit for me. I can deal with respawning enemies no problem, free echoes, but absolutely fuck that laser Amy. And the three Hunters, fuck up once and they'll get you.
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>>153965857
Laser Amy isn't so bad. Its laser basically precedes the exact place you shouldn't stand.
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>>153965857
The Amygdalae didn't bother me. In fact I think you and I might have had this discussion before. The laser one scared the piss out of me but didn't kill me. I ran through okay.
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>>153965652
Orphan despite being a newborn appears as a hunched old man
The first thing he does when he crawls out of Kos is look at the sun and cry
It's literally the same cry that Gehrman does in his sleep, in the Hunter's Dream
After you slay the nightmare, Doll mentions to you that Gehrman seems to be sleeping more peacefully
But no I'm sure you've got a much better interpretation, courtesy of Vaati or Reddit am I right
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>kiting skelemimics over yellow bonfire corpses in Yahar'Gul eventually puts out the fires.

Does this accomplish anything?
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>>153966580
It unlocks an alternate boss. Instead of the One Reborn, it's simply called The One. I won't spoil anymore, it's up to you
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>>153966176
I think the connection is simply that Gehrman is the first hunter, his tradition of hunters massacred the Hamlet and are cursed. They are both progenitors, entwined.
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>>153965985
>>153966018
It always fucking catches me, I've seen it spam that laser so you can't move, I dunno it just messes me up every time

The women don't help either chucking molotovs and shit.
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>>153966176
Gehrman isn't the Orphan, the reason Gehrman's fucked up over it is because he has serious regrets about massacring the Fishing Hamlet
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>>153966772
Thanks for the headsup! I wasn't prepared for the new boss at all, but I took him down.

How the fuck do I kill the Two, though? I hate when games throw a second boss at you right after the first dies.
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I don't remember how chalice dungeon glyphs work. Can you only open dungeons you've already cleared yourself? Or is there a 'fastest route to unlocking all dungeons' where you don't actually have to grind through every one of them?
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>>153967384
Well, you have to find the secret weapon called "Duet's Final Performance" in order to do good damage to them. However, you still need to be on your toes because they will still put up a good fight. Trust me
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>>153963482
You're past prime for taking on the hook and club giant, it's a tedious and boring fight but extremely easy once you figure out how to bait and dodge the spin attack. Just know that the chalice dungeons only get more sadistic past there. Nightmare frontier is a breeze compared to Yahar'gul and the Amygdala fight is (to me) much more enjoyable than the One.
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>>153968059
Damn. I already talked Annabelle out of trying to make it as a solo artist, so the Duet's Final Performance isn't available this playthough.

Am I SOL?
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>>153968372
I liked the Amygdala fight too. I was kinda clumsy and retarded about it but it was a cool fight.
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>>153966824
>>153967085
Wow looks like you boys have it all figured out
True lore masters
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>>153968639
Then give us your 2deep lore theory Mr Sassypants
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Is there more than one cell key for the nightmare? I still can't get into the one at the bottom of the stairs.
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>>153969042
Not him but heres mine
Gehrman and Orphan have no connection.
Bam
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>>153968372
yeah. he's in that weird space being able to beat him isn't really in question, but he's such a bloated sack of HP that it's hard to force yourself through the effort, you know?
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>>153969194
You'll get that a little later on, don't worry, the only hint I'll give is look near the door of the lighthouse hut.
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What does Iosefka have to do with mensis? Is she apart of the school, why can her blood vial be found before Mergo?
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These fags in the nightmare version of the ayy lmao garden are pretty strong
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Post a more beautiful Soulsborne grill

YOU CAN'T
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>>153970269
I think it's just a good healing item
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>>153970269
I think her vial near Mergo has no lore connotation, it's merely a reminder to the player to check the clinic, because after the Blood Moon you can kill the False Iosefka for an umbilical cord.
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Yo, can someone help me with Ludwig?
He keeps slapping my shit
Level 65, bell pass is bbg
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>>153970492
Nah man muh lore demands there be a connection
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>>153970796
I don't know why but I kek'd
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>Hear distant plip plop of Brainsuckers in Upper Cathedral Ward
>Have no fucking clue where it's coming from
NOPE NOPE NOPE
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>>153970871
This post triggered me.
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>>153970754
Are you by the fog?
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>>153964857
I think the Orphan's real world form resembles that little armless shade sticking out of Kos' corpse that you kill to get the "Nightmare Slain" message.

The concept art also hints to its importance.
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>>153971167
Ye
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>>153970871
>they suddenly get faster
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So many new weapons, so few blood stones. I'm a strength build so I'm looking at the whirligig saw and the amygdalan arm to upgrade... The church pick also looks tight but it looks like more of a skill weapon? What do you guys think? I have the others from the nightmare as well, but these are just the ones that are noisy l most jumping out at me.
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>>153971732
>noisy

Fuck my phone man.
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>>153970871
Oooooh but that's the best part! UCW is legit spooky.
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>>153965485
>>153966176
>>153966824
>>153967085
see >>153964857 for what I feel is the most likely explanation

>>153971283
that's basically what I said, Waking World Orphan was probably barely past being an embryo hooked up to Kos via the Umbilical Chord(probably the one you find at the Abandoned Workshop)

>>153970871
I think those might be my most hated enemies in the game, not because they're particularly hard to fight, just cause they can permanently steal your Insight
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>>153969431
Like I said, it only gets worse. Some of the bosses that come are just as tedious and actually very difficult on top of it. The hook and club giant is basically just the game saying, "are you sure you really want to do this?" It is a pain in the ass, though.
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>>153971732
I personally enjoy the Arm

>>153971167
Much thanks
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>>153970796
My l o r e:

There never was a Iosefka. Fauxsefka IS Iosefka after she's gained your confidence and the advancing state of the Mensis Ritual makes her go all crazy, the change in voice actors was to denote this and the 'Impostor' title is simply to denote that isn't Iosefka as she usually would be, the moon madness has essentially made her a different person. We find a Iosefka blood vial outside Mergo's place because Iosefka is a Mensis lackey, she's just in White Church robes to blend in with the people.
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>>153972251
But when you go to the clinic there's already an ayy with Iosefka's blood, which I would believe to be an implication that Iosefka herself was the impostor's first experiment. Even if you send nobody else to the clinic there's always that one.
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>>153972167
You talk about 'versions' but the Nightmare isn't actually a nightmare, it isn't a literal dream in someone's head, it's a real place. Nightmare is just a name. The Hunter's Nightmare is some hellish recreation of an older Yharnam from the time of the first hunters. We know time is fucky in this game, especially with the Nightmare. Kos and Orphan, like Gerhman, exist only within the Nightmare, which I might add, a single continuous place comprised of what we can only comprehend as layers because you can see the Hamlet and Mensis from the Frontier. So there can be no Nightmare version of Gerhman because he's already in the Nightmare, the Hunter's Dream, a little sliver of a place that seems to be on the absolute bottom of the Nightmare if 'Awaken ABOVE Ground' means anything at all.
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>>153972519
Oh I'm completely bullshitting for the joke of muh lore, they're totally two different people and Iosefka's blood vial is a just a good healing item for a potential final boss.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TO0GOlcEGQ
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>>153973846
rip in piece
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What does attack vs open foes up mean?
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>>153974504
Hitting someone while they are attacking as well.
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>>153972657
no I mean that the Orphan of Kos we fight is a guardian created by the Sweet Child of Kos to protect itself and Kos' corpse that's inspired by Gerhman, like how Mergo's Wet Nurse is clearly inspired by the Shadows of Yharnam that used to protect Mergo's original mother Queen Yharnam
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>>153960983
You can also do this with the Augur. Makes her an absolute breeze for Arcane builds.
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Could someone post the arcane guide image?
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Damn, I can see why you guys say Maria is so easy to parry, because she is, but I can also see why some have trouble with her. She gets nasty in the second part.
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>>153970385
Got some serious manjaw goin' on there, anon.
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>>153976836
I gotchu famalamadingdongamygdalapaitachi
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>>153977803
thanks mate
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Where did he come from

Where did he go
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Anyone got some cute sliders?
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So I'm running 25str/50arc right now with the Moonlight Sword and I was wondering if I'll get more bangformybuck if I put str gems, arc gems, or a mix of the two on it.
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>>153907743
I died to the witch five times
>>
r8
Level 68
>18 Vit
>12 End
>25 Str
>18 Skill
>05 BLT
>40 Arc

Originally the plan was 25/25/40, to see what combos of arcane/str/skill weapons I could come up with, but I'm thinking of not getting skill to 25 from 18 and just dumping it into vit,end, or arc.

How much damage do I miss out on on skill weapons with the 7 point difference?
I think playing defensively with tools could make up for lower vit, and end isn't too important.
However, with low endurance, some weapons are underpowered because I don't have enough stamina to get to the point in combos where DPS spikes (e.g. blades of mercy)

Also I don't like memewheel much so there's that.
Now what?
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>"Now I'm waking up, I'll forget everything..."

What did he mean by this?

Why would killing him end his time in the Nightmare and send him back to the real world without memory?

Is he lying in a bed next to mine?
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>>153981802
>18 Vit
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>>153982326
I cleared end dungeons at 70 with 20 vit so for PvE I don't consider it important.
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>>153982458
You must be a lot better at the game than I am, to be honest family.
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>>153982243
Micolash is basically bi-locating, he's both in the Nightmare and the Waking World. But he's dead as fuck in the Waking World and has nowhere to go back to when you Whirligig L2 his ass. He's also playing on the concept of dreams and nightmares and the place being called a Nightmare. Micolash was quite literally memeing as he died.
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I just finished Bloodborne for the first time ever. Trult one of the best games i've ever played and an unique experience.

What do now?
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>>153982243
A bit hard to remember things when you're a mummified corpse
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>>153983181
Play again, man. Different build this time.

I seriously feel like I can play this game without getting tired. The builds are so much fun.

On an unrelated note, does co-op make chalice dungeons more bearable? Or should I just speedrun them?
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>>153983343
Just speedrun them.
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>>153982698
It was excruciating and I only did it to show off
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>tfw can't beat Maria
>tfw spend over 100k echoes on vials and bullets
>tfw bl 70 and all I have left is the DLC and the final boss
>get murdered repeatedly, sometimes immediately, sometimes after getting her down to 10%
>last time I got her down to 2% and she combos me with her flame shit
>I go from 80% to 0% immediately
>respawn
>12 vials and 19 bullets left

I hate this game
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>>153983916
Got 18 arc? Beast Roar just became your best friend. Got a Whirligig Saw? L motherfucking 2, my guy. Cheese her hard and cheese her fast.

If you have any kind of fast weapon to hand, stunlock her, don't even give her a chance to attack back.
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>>153983916
I just fought Maria a couple hours ago for the first time. I unironically thought she was easy as fuck. I died twice before killing her, because she's definitely an offensive beast, but she's incredibly easy to parry. It took me a pretty long time to get competent at parrying, though, so if you struggle with that, I feel you.
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>>153984303
All I got is the saw cleaver and low ass Arcane
I pumped all my stats into str, vit, and end with some in skill and blt
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>>153984764
Well, it's not all lost, but it's certainly a bit more difficult. Good thing is you have the Saw Cleaver, which has one of the fastest R1's in the game. If you can get close to her and just spam R1, you can get a lot of damage in. Even better if you can back her into a corner where she can't dodge away.

I'd recommend upgrading the Whirligig Saw which can be found pretty early on in the DLC, go to the Nightmare Church lamp, the one near Ludwig, take the little stairs down, jump into the crow pit and just follow out onto the fallen stone, Whirligig is sitting right there. The tricked L2 makes Maria a pushover once your hit connects because it's a continuous attack instead of R1 over and over.
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Just finished the Nioh tutorial, /bbg/. I think it looks pretty neato but I haven't gotten into any actual missions yet. But some of you were concerned that we here might have a hard time getting used to it. Why specifically is that?
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>>153985209
Why aren't you telling him to parry, m8?
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>>153985407
>Why aren't you telling him to parry, m8?

Well, you get to a point where you stop caring about any legitimacy in a fight and just want it over with also I can't parry for shit so I can't really give it as advice
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>>153985301
Nioh is very guard-focused, Bloodborne has virtually no guarding. That's what tripped me up the mos. Unlike Souls games, where you can roll out of combos but you can't block out of them, Nioh has you unable to roll out but you can block.

Also the game is way less hesitant to throw shit that kills you in two hits at you, but that's more just annoying than anything else.
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>>153985712
>Also the game is way less hesitant to throw shit that kills you in two hits at you
Goddamn, my dude, I didn't realize a game could be any less hesitant to do that than Soulsborne.
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>>153985894
There are plenty of games harder than the Souls games, by no means are they the pinnacle of difficulty.
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>>153985712
>Nioh is very guard-focused, Bloodborne has virtually no guarding.

This threw me off the most. I brute-forced my way through the demo having forgotten I could even block. Was a painful experience, especially on batwoman.
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>>153985894
Souls games rarely put things that kill you in one to two hits, unless it is abundantly clear that it hits like a goddamn truck. It makes sense when the giant bull demons or antlered monstrosities take huge chunks out of your health, but other than that they don't do it that often.

In Nioh, trash mobs kill you in three hits on the regular. They aren't that hard to deal with once you get the hang of the gameplay, but it's still annoying when you miss a parry on a dinky katana footsoldier and it cleaves off thirty percent of your health.

>>153986056
God no kidding. I hardly ever blocked, always tried to dodge stuff, made things so much harder. And that bat bitch especially, goddamn. Once I got it through my head to just fucking block you idiot, the game got way easier.
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>>153985957
Got any particular examples in mind? Not saying you're wrong, just curious what you're thinking of.
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>>153986286
She was an obnoxious fight. Took me an embarrassing amount of tries. The cynic in me wants to chalk it up to her having really punishing attacks that happen without telegraphs, but I know it was also like 3am and I was frustrated and complacent.

How effective is blocking in that fight anyway?
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>>153899189
Looks extremely slow and clunky on to of that it was QTEs and the horizontal, vertical thing looks like a pain in the ass. Westerners can't into ARPGs.
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>>153986363

Super Ghost N' Ghouls to name one.
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>>153986606
>what is Witcher
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Easiest way to get the Beast Claws (I dont suppose the co-op bug still works right?) and the best stamina rune? Maybe the HP rune too...

I can't be bothered to do chalice dungeons. Might do them just to get the Madman Set and Beast Claws but since some runes are only found in it.
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>>153986770
The combat sucks dick, this comes from a Witcher fanboy.
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>>153986363
A lot of older platformers, the first few Castlevanias especially come to mind. I find the Ys games to be a lot harder, especially on the higher difficulty levels.

The higher difficulty levels on Warriors games are atrocious, though that's less skill-related and more grind-related. Upping the difficulty on DMC games is pretty tough as well.

Doom 1 and 2 can get pretty ridiculous at times too, especially on Ultra-Violence and Nightmare. Factoring in WADs makes that even worse.
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>>153986934

This.

I'm just gonna bet he was born after the PS1 too, to think that there aren't harder games than Souls.
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>>153986856
It kind of does against humans, which of course is a lot of the combat, but I enjoyed the monster fights well enough. But yeah the RPG aspect is what made it amazing.
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>>153986363
A lot of NES games, Ninja Turtles, Ninja Gaiden, Zelda 2, Castlevania 3, Ghost N' Ghouls etc.
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>>153987030
Bruh I was born in 1980. Like I said I was just wondering what he had in mind, and I'm not at all surprised it was older games.
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>>153987214
Try playing Devil May Cry 4 on Dante must die.
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>>153986476
As effective as the rest of the game. So long as you keep an eye on your stamina and don't try to block the shockwaves, you're golden. The way I did it was I mid-stanced a spear and poked her until she ran out of stamina, then switched to a 2kat and used Water Sword on her back for big damage.

But yes, she was annoying as hell. The paralysis came out of nowhere, which I thought was bullshit. If they'd put some enemies in the cave just before her that inflicted it, then it would be fine, but they just sprung it on you and that was dumb.
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>>153987658
I haven't played any of that series. Good?
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>fighting BSB in nightmare fuel blood caves
>it does it's 1 claw lunge
>hits the wall, slides up, clips into the ceiling
>hear it stomping around, then silence

So...what happened to it? I eventually got 2k echoes while standing still, but what drops did I miss?
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>>153987691
They put items to cure the paralysis in before the boss fight though
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>>153987862
I think BSB drops a gem but one of the weapons is in that cave. Amygdalan arm I think.
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>>153987862
Something similar happened to me with that shark giant near the Lighthouse Hut lamp.
>shark is trying to hit me through the wall
>decide to walk off to the back entrance near that shortcut and come back a second later
>shark guy is literally nowhere to be found
>disappeared entirely
I didn't get any echoes, so I was still nervous, but he didn't walk away. I'm guessing he just bugged out.
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>>153987781
>I haven't played any of that series. Good?

YES

DEVIL MAY CRY IS FUCKING GOOD GO FUCKING PLAY IT YOU'VE GOT A PS4 GET DMC4 SPECIAL EDITION
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>Decide it's time to do some chalice dungeons
>Easily get through the first few levels, no trouble whatsoever
>Almost get one-shotted by a horde of spiders in level 1 Lower Pthumeru
Is this just a mere taste of what is to come? Exactly when does this go from 'bad' to 'FUCK NO'
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>>153891361
>gets rejected

Being honest, why did she do that? it's implied that she doenst accept because that could anger a old one, probably oedon, but since we are not going to get more DLCs and I doubt that we will get a BB2 in the near future, what was the whole deal there?
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>>153988719
I'll put it on my to-play list
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>>153896710
I swear that I am still dissapointed that this guys are the only enemies that require insight to spawn, the insight mechanic wasnt really well used in my opinion.
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>>153988986
>(Propose Marriage) Speak not, those words. We have little need of a consort. Such a path would belike lead to further ruin. Thou'rt dear to Us. We would see no harm befall thee...
>(Propose again) Ahh, still thy honeyed tongue... The thought alone sufficeth. Thy worth is too great. Now, speak no more in the matter.
>(Propose again..again)Honestly!

Sounds like she likes you, but doesn't want to get you wrapped up in her problems thus potentially endangering you.
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>>153988830
Defiled Chalice is when you will forcefully lose your virginity
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>>153989214
What problems? the church and any other relevants factions has been devasted by the scourge and/or madness, if she refers to oedon, who cares, the guy doesnt have a body and he only can impregnate people, and if we take it as being a male hunter, you are safe.
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>>153989406
and a new anus.
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>>153989210
Yeah. It was a really nifty and unique stat which in practice didn't fucking matter.
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>>153989205
Seriously, the Devil May Cry series is a must play (except for 2, it's shit and everyone agrees). 1 is a little dated but still holds up super well, 3 is CUHRAZY and 4 is a bit different, but ultimately an excellent entry. They're super fun and over the top, go hunt them down.

And that fast style of reactive combat informed Bloodborne's stylish, visceral combat, too.
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Is gatling gun gud?
Worth going 28/40 str/arc instead of 25/40?
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>>153989651
I would like a whole horror game build around it, the potencial is great, just add some multiple endings and you can have paths depending on how crazy you want to be.
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>>153989761
The Gatling Gun is a cheese machine, especially in PvP, but I wouldn't ruin a finished build with the three extra points. It all depends on what your build is, I suppose.
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>>153989651
is amazing that they didnt do nothing with it on the DLC. What about being able to fucking fight oedon in somekind of weird dimension (even more than all the nightmares realms) if you have max insight to enter the place, probably being infested by winter lantern and new enemies with frenzy.
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So yeah I'm dying a lot too dumb enemies in Nioh. Still seems pretty cool, the controls are just awkward to me.
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>>153989962
Currently level 69, Arc at 40 and str at 25. Planned on dumping stats into vit/end but I'd sacrifice 5 or so vit for gatling gun and maaybe cannon.
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Why is empty phantasm shell garbage? I'm not sure why I'm not seeing any change in damage.
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>>153991425
Because it's an arcane buff, go use it on Pthumerian HMPH and you'll see results.
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>>153951776
I love how the path between Celestial Emissary and Ebby goes over Amelia's boss room. It's interesting how all that spooky alien shit was happening right above the first part of the game, and you had no idea.
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>>153991639
The interconnectivity of the world really is fantastic
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>>153991635
HMPH?
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Where should a person get Arcane gems if they don't want to deal with FRC bosses?

Atk% could just use Ihyll gargoyles. Is there an equivalent mob for Arc?
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>>153993010
Pthumerian Descendant
We call him HMPH because that's what he says
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>>153994285
For that matter what's the best setup for a Arc-spec'd HMLS?
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>>153983050
>Micolash was quite literally memeing as he died.
I can only hope I can strive to be this man
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>>153995252
>I will never be Micolash

Thanks for reminding me douchebag
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>>153983916
>BL70

Why do people gimp themselves so much and then cry how hard the game is?
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>tfw you will never beat lawrence or yarnam
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>>153997545
>yarnam
?
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>>153997545
Why not? Yharnam is a pain in the ass but Lawrence is easy as shit.
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>Queen Yharnam's theme is "Queen of the Vilebloods"
>yet the Queen of Vilebloods is sitting in the Cainhurst throne room
Am I missing something here?
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>>153999227
I think but do not quote me that the "corrupted blood" that caused the Vileblood scourge is Yharnam blood.
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>>153999227
Vilebloods are Pthumerian descendants.
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Anyone wants to coop or needs some help?
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>>153999545
I need help, but not in the game. Can you answer >>153994285 ?
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>>153994285
>>153999639
Sometimes Bone Ash Hunters drop radial Arc gems in Ihyll also if you get a Pthumerian Elder in Ihyll he drops Arc+65 scaling gems.
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>just got whirlsperg saw
>it clips through cloaks

this weapon sucks.
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>>153983916
>BL70
Get the moon runes and hit the grind nigga, for the DLC you should be a solid 15-20 levels higher
You think that bitch is hard? Just wait for what lays beyond
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Anyone else notice that the knight uniform with a hood piece of the same color make you look like Ezio from Assassins creed when he gets the late game black armor?
Guess i know what my next RP build is.
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>>153983916
Use the power of the Guiding MoonLight or the other Holy Blade.
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Fighting Ludwig for the first time.

What the fuck is this boss? This is insane.
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>>154001424
Did you see the second phase?
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>>154001813
Yeah, smashed my shit in immediately.
Didn't understand why Ludwig was so hyped until right then.
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>>154001974
Remember: when he jumps on the ceiling just keep running in one direction. That's the most difficult attack to avoid.
If he points his sword upward go behind him.
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>>154002105
He didn't jump on the ceiling until several attempts in, I just thought his regular pounce was bugged.

If he's on the ceiling blood tricks down first right?
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>>154002206
>If he's on the ceiling blood tricks down first right?
Yes, he only does it at the end of phase 1.
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>>154002294
I'd be lucky to get that far again. I don't have enough vit to take 2 hits in a row.
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>>153996149
how to farm for blood echoes?
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>>153996149
>70 is low level

Well shit.
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>>154006650
Bl70 is perfectly fine if you have a fully upgraded weapon
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>>154004523
Just keep killing.

And use Moon Runes.
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>ring beckon bell just before Papa G
>get two people fantastic this'll be fun
>don't show up
>both die before I even see them

THIS TOWN'S FINISHED
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>>154011632
You want a hand with papa?
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>>154011849
I usually dont struggle with him, but I suck with my threaded cane character. But I'll take the help. In front of the fog password bbg? It's new game plus too
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>>154012227
I'll ring my smallie sorry for the wait. Let me know if you're still up him
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>>154012820
Yeah I'm ringing now no problem
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>>154012910
You beckoning my man and set to worldwide? Ringing for a while now
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>>154013335
Cheers lad
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>>154013571
What?
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>>154014059
Well either that was you that just helped me or someone else, if you're still waiting for co-op, stop! Hahah
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>>154014550
Oh damn it wasn't me sadly. Someone stole me a coop! glad you two managed to get him fast enough so I didn't wait there for too long
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>tfw your routine blood tests have become infused with horror after this game
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how the fuck do i do builds in this game? i want to go strength but i just cant work out what's viable and what isn't
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>>154017794
Every weapon is viable pretty much, some obviously stronger than others but you're not really gimping yourself hard by choosing one weapon over another.
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>>154000503
Then keep it always tricked you damn fool
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>>154017929
but like, what skills should i use other than 50 strength? the guides i'm reading are such a mess
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>>154018485
Throw heavy abyssal gems on a weapon and it becomes a strength weapon.
There's a few decent strength weapons with good scaling to fall back on, these include the kirk hammer, wheel, amygdala arm and whirligig saw
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>>154018485
What SL are you going for?
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>>154018691
100 i suppose, it's what my friends play on
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>>154018714
maybe 50 strenght, 25 skill, 30vit, 20end and you should have some points left you can put into end or vit.

Some people keep their endurance even lower but do whatever youre comfortable with
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>>154018906
This is assuming you don't bother with bloodtinge and arcane
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>>153917665
>near his house
>he his sign for other hunters should his family be threatened
>we still manage to fuck up and get them killed
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>literally have to farm the most tedious part of the game for a good build
Nice game.
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>>154019990
git gud
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>>154021565
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>>154011632
Summoning people in Central Yharnam is a mess, sometimes I summon for the giggle and I can never find who the fuck I summoned
>>
Any of you going to be playing Lords of the Fallen, the first Souls clone? It's free for PS+ fags.
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>>154019990
I use 20% gems and I'm gud
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>>154024815
Nah, it seems like a below-average game.
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>>154024815
Already played it a long time ago
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>>154024815
I don't like things like Lords of the Fallen and Nioh which try so hard to be Souls games.
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>>154012227
>threaded cane
Just whip it good
It's got pretty long range
Take advantage of that
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>>154025640
nah nioh is trying to be its own thing. Its doing well for the most part
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>>154025640
But Nioh is just Ninja Gaiden
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>>153897064
I liked nioh a lot. It needs brush up on a few things here and there. But overall i found it to be fun and rewarding. I also try not to compare it to souls that much. Yes it took some concepts from souls but team ninja added its own things as well.
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>>154024815
I convinced my brother to buy Sotfs instead of LotF so I guess he'll play it since he wanted to play it in the first place but I will probably try it for the giggles and so I can hate in it on 4chan
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>>154026906
>>154026995
Seems like an uncomfortable mash of Ninja Gaiden and Dark Souls with a MMO loot system tacked on. Combat doesn't feel as meaty or rewarding honestly.
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>>154027580
i guess it depends on the person, but i think the combat a lot more in depth than souls
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Is ludwig's holy blade the best pve weapon?
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>>154028021
No, that's Whirligig
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>>154028021
No, that would be the bowblade
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>>154028021
I'd argue Hunters Axe for it's tricked mode range and crowd control, plus it's faster than the tricked Ludwig
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>>154028021
i would say burial blade if you could get it early
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>>154028339
The fuck
>>
How the fuck do you get in range of this fucking leapfrog and his extendo placenta?
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>>154028641
Dodge IN and AROUND, not away, he punishes dodging away. He's designed to fuck with your instincts.
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>>154028814
Well its working, gotta farm bloodvials now because he just made me suck em all down
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>>154028104
>>154028126
>>154028139
>>154028339
Which is the best against bosses if I literally can't visceral though?
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>>154029229
Whirligig
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>>154029229
whirli or simons bowblade if you have bloodtinge
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>>154029005
Remember, right before Ludwigs arena there's a non-hostile corpse banging on a gate that drops 5 vials every time.
>>154029229
Both Whirligig and Hunters Axe I'd say. Hunters Axe maybe moreso because it's available at the start.
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>>154029385
i'd say the cleaver is good for the earlier bosses because of the extra damage vs beasts. Also combined with fire paper + beast pellet wrecks most of the early bosses. The axe is good for killing mobs. The cane for killing with style
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New thread when
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>>154031764
Haven't hit the bump limit yet m88
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>>154031873
is 750 the bump limit?
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>>154032182
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>>154032182
NEW
>>154032182
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>>154032030
It would appear so
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>>154028339
You can if you know how which Chalice glyph to enter.

You don't even need the Normal version unlocked to get it.
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