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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php?build=5
(This build is downloadable and playable)

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Running Giten Megami Tensei in windowed mode with Chiitrans:
http://pastebin.com/0gguMLyL
http://pastebin.com/21W8HmWY

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>>153751463
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SMT is for casuals.
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> Hero the Human is here.
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Play Debisama you BITCHES
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Persona is the future of SMT.
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Persona is the future of SMT.
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Dogs are shit let's create a world where every dog and dog lover are purged
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>>153990071
What is debisama?
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Why are old SMT fans mad at Final?
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>>153990176
Jesus fucking christ you are retarded.
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>>153990201
Waifus.
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>>153990026
I don't even get what happened in SMT4 Law ending. Suddenly angels control everything and the only way to close the hell mouth is to destroy Tokyo and that somehow creates a land of peace forever.
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>>153990201
We're mad the game isn't about all the mcs coming together for a curcle jerk just like this general.
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>13 post
>8 of them are memes
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>>153989989
Casuals don't even know that SMT exist. >>153990080
Are Doi Demons going to appear in P5
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>>153990404
Such is the fate of this general.
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>>153990176
Urusai falseflagger kun.
>>153990340
Genocide on old Tokyo people who think for themselves. Only sheep allowed in Mikado. Peace lasts easier that way.
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>>153990335
SMT had waifus through the demons.
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>getting ready for Tower of Kagutsuchi
>Think I've made the perfect buffing demon
>Get into tower
>Realize that I don't have taunt or tarukaja
>MC is all physical
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What V can possibly even be about?
IV was about taoistic dualism
III was about zoroastristic radicalism
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>>153990613
Now it has proper waifus.

>>153990475
People who think for themselves turn into demons and kill everyone bro. Did you not pay attention to the game?

And the ones that don't proceed to round up children, suck out their brains, and feed the brains to demons.
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>>153989989
You are but casual scum.

Can you even take on the armies of YHVH and fight in the name of chaos? Or would you rather dream of shitposting /smtg/'s threads instead of claiming the world in Lucifer's own glory?

DO YOU EVEN DUNGEON CRAWLING?
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>>153990763
Finding your true self while also managing a harem of waifus.
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Devil Summoner when
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>>153990613
Didn't Strange Journey make fun of the people that waifu'd demons?

>>153990832
What were 1 and 2 about?
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>>153990832
Only Toki os considered a proper waifu. Nozomi seems to be ignored right long with Danu.
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>>153990913
Mad chaosnigger.

>>153990959
That's a shame.
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>>153990763
lucifer dating sim
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>>153990832
#notalluncleanones
Its not like I actually think their genocide was a good idea.
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>>153991015
Yeah, Inanna really boosted Toki's popularity unintentionally.
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Devil Survivor 3 when?
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>>153990763
What about a game where the alignments are actually well written and implemented?
That would be quite an innovation.
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>>153990919
>What were 1 and 2 about?
Play them for yourself.
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>>153991132
Nintendo Direct 2017.

Screencap this post.
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>>153991153
Cozy left and atlus would rather find some freelance writer to do mainline games while the good team goes to making Persona
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>>153991207
I have, I was just asking this person >>153990763 about what their interpretation of 1 and 2 was.
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>>153989254
It depends on the tone of the character speaking (Isamu with his rough speech, Beasts, and some Pentagramma members are probably the worst to understand). For the most time, though, Chiitrans and ATLAS do the job surprisingly well, and you can understand what's going on, even when the translation looks like a mess. Also, if you know some basic Japanese and can read Kana and some Kanji, you should be all set.
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>>153991015
Mad Tyrone detected.
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>>153991267
You're still trying? You realise you were wrong the first time right?
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>TMS 2 is announced but this time SMT characters are the mirages.

How you would react?
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What if SMT V was written by this lovely man?
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>>153991449
I'd still be relatively butthurt, but nowhere near the level of butthurt that happened the first time around.
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>>153991315
I'm not the same nigger you was talking too.
I haven't played I and II yet. Not expecting too much of a deep thematic shit in games this old tho.
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>>153990832
Yes and they are named Dagda and Hallelujah.
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>>153990763
>zoroastristic radicalism
Wait, what?
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>>153991327
Also, I tried translating some dialog, but either the game, or Chiitrans (or both) don't seem to support translations of long sentences, so the only option for a quiality translation patch is to hack the game, or at least have someone fluent in Japanese run through the game, and make a ,doc file with translated script, just like Debisama translators did.
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>>153991543
Yes please.
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>>153991543
Then I'll stick to Persona, since even Hashino's dating sim will be better than meme hack-written turd from this pretentious idiot.
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>>153990919
TMS FE does it as well. Morage, demon, they dont want to fuck beta males.
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>>153991696
see
>>153991360
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>>153991550
C'non anon.
Isn't that bad. It could be a lot worse.
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>>153991784
>It could be a lot worse
You jinxed it, good going anon. When the next entry comes out, and it turns out to be shit, I'm going to blame you.
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What kind of mother would Inanna be?
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>>153990098
>>153991298
The Persona team wrote Catherine, which is arguably pretty good. But then they go and write shit like P4 and P4 Arena.

So... what is it then? Are they shit, or do they have some good writter out there who is locked in a basement of ATLUS HQ ?
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>>153992010
They should just get Cozy back on. I don't care what it takes.
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>>153991617
Meant 'zoroastrian', my engrish is bad, sorry.
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>>153991987
>>153991987
Smothering. All up in her kids faces teying to get them to drink feom her tits and makingn babbies when daddy does not want too.

She will teach her girls how to get laid.

>>153992010
They let an Adachi fanboy write Ultimax you tell me.
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To the anon that gets triggered by Black Mark.
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>>153990913
>DO YOU EVEN DUNGEON CRAWLING?
Why yes... I do. And in a more hardcore series at that
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>>153992486
I still don't get why (You) try to rile up a conflict between EO and megaten.

Both are unique enough, and cover different niches for any reasonable person to be able to be a fan of both.
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>>153992362
How would she react to a surprise baby shower? Sorry if all I talk about is Inanna making babies, it feels like that's her primary motive aside from getting revenge on Danu. She seems like a decent demon.
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Diarahan
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Does Apocolypse fix the difficulty issues in 4? That was my only real problem with it.
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>>153994254
Supposedly smirk is no longer retardedly overpowered and the combat is improved so it sounds like the lol slot machine bullshit will be tamped down a bit.

Reports are that it's still on the easy side but SMT4 can't be harder until it deals with the random crit smirk instakill stuff.

Note of course this is all preliminary from weeb hackers who speak moon or trolls.
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>>153994254
>difficulty issues in 4
You mean all the RNG bullshit?
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>>153994426
How the fuck people having a problem with smirk in the first place? Killed Minotaur with Walter with the first attempt, ezpz as cake.
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Mazandyne
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>>153994735
Weak!
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>>153994531
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>>153991606
Dagda is a waifu?
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>>153994969
>.jpeg large.jpeg
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Soul Hackers 2 when
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>>153995196
I was raised in a Catholic family and biker girls in leather never turned me on. I wasn't raised this way.
Why is Nemissa so fucking hot?
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>>153995196
Already here mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3g_7HwpJSE&index=1&list=PL9TKnIOsEtbqO1SvGWspha4cdKYF3HWup
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Live!
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When did this place come back to life? I was here a few months ago and it was dead as balls.
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>>153996375
Apocalypse is coming out in a few days.
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>>153996464
*weeks
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>>153996375
i think that everyone is triying to avoid spoilers
>i think
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>>153996650
There are people trying to avoid spoilers? As far as I know, literally everyone knows the entire plot of the game by now.
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>>153996691
i don't :^)
i just started posting here again yesterday
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>>153996741
Here there's no rules against spoilers though. You are going to have some stuff spoiled.

What do you want spoiled? Do you want me to tell you anything in particular? Do you want some information that's as spoiler free as possible?
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>>153996464
And P5 is coming out after that.
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>>153996691
In reference to SMTIVA, only the beginning and the end were spoiled, but not the middle.
I think that anon was talking about Persona 5.
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>>153996892
Wait, Apocalypse is a sequel? I thought it was an expansion like FES or Golden.
Well fuck.
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>>153991315
1? I don't know, it's just typical post apoc fair. Neutral is laughably the only 'good' choice, but at least even it has downsides.

2 is more interesting, I would say it's basically a study on Christian thought of the end of the world. It's pretty much Revelation in a game.
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>>153996892
no i am talking about IVA, i dont give a fuck about p5
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>>153997017
If you know that little about the game, you're in for a hell of a ride.
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>>153997095
I guess so.
Excuse me while I dip off and not come to the general for a good month.
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>>153997150
>Implying it won't be spoiled on other threads and boards
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>>153997197
I don't think we're popular enough that there'll be spoiler threads plaguing facebook.
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>>153997197
You don't know me man.
You don't know where I've been.
You don't know where I'll be.
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>>153994983
Voiced by Char afterall.
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>>153997261
Fuck Failbook in general.
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>>153997332

Yeah fuck that site. They don't even have SMT memes
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>>153997385
They do when I'm around.
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>>153993336
That's cause fucking, vengeance, and war were Inannas thing.

She'd want sextoys and lots of them to stuff herself when taking care of the kids.
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>>153997440
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>>153995095
Not that anon but some twitter pics get like that when saving large version of pics.
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>>153990032
>Kazuya the Human is here.
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>>153999589
Was starting another shitstorm all a part of your master plan?
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>>153999813
I know nothing. Nothing, I tell you.
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>>153999884
Whatever you say, innocent bystander.
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>mfw going to the EGG facility for the second time
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Diarahan!
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>>154001346
Danced-Crazydyne
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I'LL END IT THUS!
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>>153997440
Really, now I'm imagining her at the weekly Polythestic Alliance meetings getting turned on every time Krishna talks about his plans to kill YHVH, or getting into an argument with a Tiamat and Satan over who has the best breasts.
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Anyone here got the nip version of SMT IV? I coudn't find a relevant image online but does Burroughs' wear a dress or does she appear nude?
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>>154003932
It's pretty obvious that she's wearing a dress in the picture.
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>>154004101
I was asking if its different in the Japanese version
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>>154004419
is it hard being this retarded
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>>153992141
Cozy wasn't a scenario writer, they should get Ito back.
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>>154005321
its a legitimate question though?
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>>154001346
Mark is a Michael Jackson reference
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>>153990032
Cute.
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So, is Christ Centered gamer going to review SMT Apocalypse?
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>>153992010
Catherine was its own project whereas all the P4 spin offs were made to sell because Atlus was in a bad situation, financially iirc. So I guess that's why.
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>P5 is 39/40 from Famitsu
>Persona 5 is now the highest rated SMT game
kek
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>>153996464
years if you're in EU
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>>154010896
>2016
>not having a hacked 3DS
your own loss
enjoy the english dub goy
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>>154010896
I saw that we could preorder it on amazon and the date was 31/12/2016, no idea if it's a confirmed date or not.
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>>154010801
Final got a 34/40, right? Holy shit.
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>>154011268
Final didn't deserve even a 30
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>>154010801
Wouldn't be surprised. P5 at what we've seen currently is far closer to SMT than 3 and 4. Could probably be close to IS and EP levels
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>>154010801
delet
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>>154011291
What? Holy shot what's wrong with you people? Two months ago everyone here was hyped for it.
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>>154010801
MT*
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>>154010801
FFXIII-2 got 40/40.
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>>154011537
>Nintendogs got 40/40
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>>154011463
Nevermind the shitposters. I'm hyped as fuck for Final. But then again, IV is my favorite mainline.
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Who cares what Famitsu says, they always give really good grades to the most hyped games and/or the ones from big franchises, don't they?
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>>154011463
Oh gee it might be because I actually played the game.
I was hyped for it before it came out, and it was the biggest piece of trash I've played in years.
Just trying to warn you, so you don't make the same mistake.
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>>154011718
More or less, yeah.
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>>154011718
P3 had 33/10.
P4 had 32/10.
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>>154011813
P4 Golden got 35/40.
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>>154011813
Atlus was full of poorfags back then. Now they can afford themselves buying some reviews.
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>>154010801
Give us Polygon review, then we'll talk. They actually don't shill anything and their scores are fairly trustable.
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>>154012191
>giving polygon traffic
Fuck off.
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So, who is going to voice YHVH in Final english? I hope its someone like Paul St. Peter or Corey Burton
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>>154011537
FFXIII-2 fixed everything wrong with its predecessor including changing the protag, fixing the linearity/maps, and unfucking the canon. In a way, its the Final/Apocalypse to the original FFXIII.
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>>153991153

I want a game where you can actually discuss philosophical points.

I want a game when you can tell YHVH he's no different than Chaos ending - a single entity that asserts dominance over others and demands submission from everyone with his angelspawn.
I want an SMT game when you can banter YHVH how he's a slave to humanity's beliefs.
I want a game where YHVH responds that he wants to die, as he isn't "I AM WHO I AM" anymore.
I want a game where you tell Lucy he won't accomplish shit himself without becoming like YHVH and any champion of his will most likely turn out like that as well, making him, at most, a useful tool to instating a new order.
I want games where alkignment leaders aren't interested in violent revolutions that will end bloodily and ultimately lead nowhere but slower changes with society accomodating. >2real
I want games where there are different endings than two extremes and "reset button".
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>>154012191
They gave Golden a 10/10 score.
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>>154012343
>implying golden isn't a 10/10
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>>154012278
But the story and plot is shit? It added a lot of stuff that it really didn't matter both for XIII and LR. The gameplay changes were excellent though. Wound damage, paradigm tuning and the diverse and explorable maps were 10/10 things that should have been in XIII.

>including changing the protag
>making the irrelevant sister of the real protagonist of 3 fucking different games the protagonist
>good idea
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>>154012243
So? Nothing wrong with this review, Platinumshit always were overrated garbage since early 2010s.
>>154012343
P4 is a perfect game for Vita format, nothing wrong with that. You may consider it pitiful ten, since there is literally nothing else for this garbage console Golden aside.
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>>154012330
If YHVH is a slave to humanity's desires, then why is he portrayed as evil in SMT?
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>>154012574
>Nothing wrong with this review
Regardless of what you think of Bayonetta 2, they clearly marked the game down due the sex, and would have given it a higher score had it not been present. Your reasoning makes no sense.

>P4 deserves a 10 because the rest of the games on the system are crap
This is some fantastic logic.

You're pathetic. What the fuck happened to this general?
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>>154012574
>That 100% flawed reasoning and blindness

>Platinumshit always were overrated garbage since early 2010s.
I agree with this though.
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P5 will kill mainline at this point. How do we stop it bros? Should we just boycott this shit or mass-pirate it on our PS3s?
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>>154012710
You're the one who's responding to blatant bait, you tell me.
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>>154012825
I say we should wait for sales numbers before anything else. Also, if Atlus wanted to kill mainline they would have done so already.
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>>154012549
>making the irrelevant sister of the real protagonist of 3 fucking different games the protagonist
Lightning had only been in one game at that point. She returned as the protag in LR
Also
>not liking Serah
I'm a Lightningfag but I'll be damned if they didn't make Serah extremely fuckable in XIII-2
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What anime will SMT copy next? Isekai shit or mecha
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>>154013148
Personashit.
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>>154013148
DDS was kinda isekaishit. Mecha will be good tho.
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>>154013107
>Lightning had only been in one game at that point. She returned as the protag in LR
The thing is, SE actively publicized Lightning as being the MC of XIII-2 pre-launch. Also she had already showed up in Dissidia Duodecim by XIII-2 I think.

>not liking Serah
I like Serah, but she was just a plot tool in XIII for 10 minutes and almost existent in LR, not counting Lumina. And she even dies in her own game.

Do you have the same webm but with Serah's bikini, fellow Lightningfag?
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>>154013291
They should get Tomino to write it if its Mecha.
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>>154012330
YHVH is Dark Law. He wants to create an orderly peaceful world with himself on the top where no one questions him. Whether people are happy with it or not is not important to him. He just want to subjugate everyone. So yeah, Dark Law, or in other words selfish Law.
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>>154013389
>second spoiler
Sadly no, anon-kun
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>>153995340
I wish it didn't.
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>>153999884
kek
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>>154010402
She also promised to review DeSu Overclocked.

We'll have to see if Atlus USA gifts her the game. I just hope that none of the internet shitters spoils her.
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Iku yo!
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>>154018039
Not enough!
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BEHOLD, MY DEMONS!
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>>154015686
Thanks, she seems pretty based.
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It's time. Post your Hoys.
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so...
idk what happened, running this on windows 10. Can't go past this screen at all lol
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>>154019043
Giten is one of those Japanese games that are very sensitive when it comes to locale. You're using the Use Locale Emulator option in Chiitrans, right? I can't test it on Windows 10, but I can confirm that everything works fine on Windows 7.

You could try manually changing your Regional Settings to Japanese and rebooting (just don't forget where the options are when you want to change them back to normal).
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>>154020197
This is how I have it set up, the Patch program doesn't even display properly even having the Japanese Language pack installed. Is there something else I need to do? Or maybe just run a VM of Windows 7 on my computer?
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>>154020376
I logged out, I'll try restarting
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>>154010801
Persona truly is the future of SMT.
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>>154020493
They really ended it thus...

Atlus smirks!
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>>154012710
We stopped falling for the "P4 is shit" meme.
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>>154011463
To be fair, it's a rehash of SMT4, which was a mediocre game in and of itself.
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>>154012191
>Polygon
>fairly trustable
>Dragon's Crown
>I found its over-exaggerated art style alienating and gross in its depiction of women even as it shines in building a world of fantastic monsters and environments
>6.5/10
kys
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>>154021787
37/40
Best mainline SMT by far
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Did the Infernal Tokyo sections of the game trigger/inspire any kinks for anyone else? I seriously think this is part of what got me more interested in domination/submission/bdsm.
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>>154023523
I wouldn't mind nourishing a cute demonoid girl if that's what you're asking.
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>>154022543
Just goes to show how low the standard for SMT is. No wonder Persona stole the crown.
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>>154020376
Here's my setup.

Make sure that:

1) You've added " NormalPlay ShowTitle Window" command at the end of Target firld of dds.exe shortcut.
2) You're running both DXWnd and Chiitrans.
3) You have selected dds.exe shortcut in Chiitrans, and drag-and-dropped it to DXWnd window.
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>>154023776
But you'll be too dazed to notice her tits pressing against your face as she leans in to drink your brain.
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Why did they even go with Jirae for the race name?

If they wanted something localized they could've gone with something like Earth or Terran, and if they wanted nihongo, Chirei is the proper word.
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>>154012330
This could be cool, like an SMT game where you have an extra stat for negotiation and so by choosing to level that instead of fighting you'll eventually reach the point where you talk your way out of all boss battles, and you can get access to new endings that players who only know how to fight can't possible get.
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>>154023523
I didn't inspire anything, I know I love all kinds of domination, I wouldn't mind being a nourisher. Though in that world I'd probably opt to be a demon, because spending your life as a nourisher would be boring. And demons can be dominated too, remember when that one demon girl told Akira to lick her feet clean?
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Who else /piratingApocalypse/ here? I literally have no money.
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>>154026936
Get a job. Or at least rob a gas station or something so you can give Atlus their money.
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>>154026994
>get a job
I already have one. I spend more than $2000/month on drinks. I want to fucking kill myself.
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>>154024582
I got it working, I had to download a locale emulator from here:
http://xupefei.github.io/Locale-Emulator/
Once I installed it, I was able to check the patch settings, and yes I followed everything that was on the github page. Just hope the translator works though.
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>playing record breaker
>doing NG+ and going through all the extra battles
>on Fridays extra battle against Beelzebub
>gotta stay clear of him because he has 6 range
>clearing out his minions for awhile to try and gain some levels
>haven't been grinding at all so team is still in late 40's.
>after getting characters up to late 60's decide to go after the boss
>move characters closer to him
>move 3rd character near him and use possession to lower his range to one so I have a chance to surround him
>"No effect, enemy is immune"
>he proceeds to ORKO one of my teams from range
I think this might be first time I've actually encountered a boss having a bullshit unlisted immunity to something in an SMT game.
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>>154027525
>67 bucks on booze a day

Holy shit anon. So the solution is literally "don't be a drunk for one night?"
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>>154027716
>ORKO
>One R???? KO
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>>154027908
One round knock out
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>>154026936
I updated my 3DS too much to pirate. I envy you piratebros.

The only Atlus property worth paying for is EO.

Well and Trauma Center.
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>>154027525
This: >>154027852 just drink less, or buy cheaper shit.
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>>154028070
I only paid for The Dark Spire, rest of their games are not even worth a pirate.
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>>154027958
Oh, duh. I haven't played that many sRPGs but my brother tells me the Devil Survivor ones are p good
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>>154022389
This, among other blunders. Polygon lost any credibility it had years ago.
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reminder that ann sells you
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>>154026936
/waitingforafuckingeuropeanreleasedate/ here. I have more than enough backlog to keep me occupied until then.
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>>154027621
Ah yes, there was some kind of a font glitch in the unpatched version. I used AppLocale for running the patch file, and forgot to add the download link to it. Good to know there's also an alternative.
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>>154028160
>rest of their games are not even worth a pirate.

Why are you here?
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>>154026936
i am a poor neet and i saved all the year just for this
don't let me down atlus
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Wouldn't a DigimonxSMT crossover make much more sense than Fire Emblem if you disregard the licensing issues? Digivices are practically COMPs already and vice versa
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>>154026936
I'll pirate the DLC.
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>>154029238
I wanted a Castlevania x SMT crossover to be honest.
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>>154027852
I don't even drink most of it. I end up throwing it away.
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Would you huh Sera?
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>>154023523
>I mainly get a rise from knowing I got my partner pleasure
>Demi-human gets their food from my emotions and human spirit being brought out
>Me and Demihuman create a feedback loop of them forcing pain or pleasure from me so I feed them, and then they get sustinance that makes me feel more horny/positive feelings.

Sounds hot, it's too bad that nourishers don't sound like they last long.
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>>154027525
Vince?
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>>154030057
Steve?
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>>154029238
Where's that SMT x DOOM WAD?
Where's that SMT x DOOM collage picture?

Why are we as a community so lazy?
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>smt iv
Is Demonee-Ho worth anything? Or do I just want Desperate Hit?
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>>154030658
Only for Desperate Hit. His Breath hits one more time than regular Ice Breath so it's not that useful.
Protip: Remember to lite fuse during battle to pass on DH to other demons and thus increase mastery on Flynn through demon whisper.
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>>154030658
Demonee-Ho is literal perfection, with lots of strenghts, good stats and good skills.

You should feel ashamed of even thinking bad of him.
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>>154030792
How does Lite fuse even work? I never bought it.
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>>154030817
Is it really that good? I don't recall him being anything special.

>>154030990
It appears as a menu during battle. Basically fuses and you can't really control much of what skills are inherited but it bypasses any restrictions skills that can't be passed on normally.
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>>154031273
Can't I write Demonee-Ho to the Compendium before he learns his last skill, level him up, delete him, and summon him again?
I did it with Kresnik to cheese max Heaven's Bow.
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>>154031518
Well, yeah. You can do that too. At the time I used Fuse Lite to master a couple of skills at the same time. It really depends how you wanna do things. And how much Macca you have.
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I cant wait to see Morgana's human form
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>>154032049
I can't wait to see the pussy in all its glory.
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>>154032049
I can't wait to see Morgana's Huge Dong.
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>>154032049
>>154032467
>>154032475
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>>154032049
I can't wait to completely ignore Morgana's S.Link.
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>>154032049
>>154032467
>>154032475
>>154033201
>>154033427
Fuck off back to /pg/ with your cancer.
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>>154033612
Persona is the future of SMT
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>>154033201
>>154032475
>>154032467
>>154032049
>>154033427
FUCKING FURRIES GET THE THE FUCK OUT OF MY GENERAL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154034094
I said I wanted to ignore Morgana's existence because he looks like a shitty mascot character made to sell toys, faggot. I'd rather fuck Igor or his loli assistants.
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>>154034261
You're fine, I tagged you on accident.
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Exactly how big are the spawn points for Fiends in IV?
Is it easy to miss them if I hold the circle pad a little to the side or something?
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>>154034504
>big
lmao
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How can we fix /pg/ lads?
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When will get to see the true avatar of god again?
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>>154035358
Let the demons out and make Phantom Thieves. The real monsters

>Execution tools are almost never used by heroes in Picaesque works
>Velvet Room literally murders persona.
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>>154035508
When they make Smt Devil Children Wind/Lightning.
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>>154034504
Better than 1/256.
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>>154036237
I like how the Fiends made their own Tokyo dungeon. Disappointing they dont show up storywise since Trumpeter and Horsemen serve YHVH.
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Is Flynn the best mainline girl?
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>>154029802
Huh?
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>>154036697
Yes but only cause the sole competition is Tamaki.
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>>154035358
Let it crash and burn.
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>>154036854
That is the chance you have of them appearing. DLC helps make it appear easier instead of loading your save.
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>>154036517
Kazuya the King of Bel a cute.
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>>154037110
How do I know I'm standing in the right spot to begin with?
>pokemon bullshit
>in MY smt games
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>>154037389
>inb4 Aloha forms of Demons
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>>154037220
Got a fine body for making baby Bels.
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>>154037389
there are special rooms that you have to enter again and again and again.
1/256 chance of fighting them
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wtf, Mega is forcing me to pay a premium membership to keep downloading stuff
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>>154037495
I agree.
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>>154037447
The recolored demons are justified in having inherently better stats and skills.
>alola forms
>not looking like shit
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>>154037389
Its a reference to SMTI fiend encounter rate.
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>>154037658
>alola forms
>not looking like shit
Honestly, 90% of them look like shit yeah. Vulpix and Sandshrew line look pretty nice though.
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>>154037783
Got me there. Vulpix does look good.
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>>154037658
>Coconut tree dragon
>Surfing rodent
>Mexican Cats
>Not great.
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SMT x Senran Kagura when
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>>154037658
>Plasma
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>>154037978
Looks like he is made of plasma.

All the recolors look better except Minotaurs as he looks as brown/gold or blue/peach.
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>>154037890
Maybe it's just the shock of seeing a Fire type turned into an Ice type. Either way, Vulpix and Ninetales look sweet as fuck.
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>>154037967
Smt x animal crossing when
I want one with thousand year kingdom ending
I want one with tower of Babel ending
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>>154037967
>Man is sandwiched in between giant demon tits
This is too SMT.
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>>154037967
From what game is this?
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>>154038195
Undertale x SMT when
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>>154038969
undertale is just a shitty rip off of smt, earthbound and nier
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>>154039565
>>154038969
We're reaching maximum meme capacity on the subject.
Any more and the shitposting will overload.
I'll end it thus.
agi
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>>154037783
>Alola

I once joked about SMT4F protag looking like Pokemon rival and here we are.
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>>154038969
Spotted the "doesn't even play games he talks about"fag

>Jaki Orc called for help...
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What's up with memeboy's chest anyway, he looks like he came out of a cheap hentai OVA.
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>>154039835
Pokemon Rivals were never physically edgy.

So it would be the other way around, just like SMT made mons.
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>>154040201
He's casualry scum. Probably isn't eating well.
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>>154040358
luxuror detected
fuck off hoy
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>>154040201
Chaos hentai hero. Wants to plow Flynns hope pussy.
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>>154037967
>>154038283
SMT x Darkstalkers is the true crossover we deserve.
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>>154041510
dame. idoru for kono baka gaijin onry
korede ninpon want
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>>154041716
Ok ok.

SMT x Vampire
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>>154041851
baka
you have vampires already
we call them demonu
you say waifu yes?
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>>154041082
Kek, that's what you get for having a girlfriend. All you need is God and he will provide you Angel pussy to pound.
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>>154041082
Stop posting this.
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>>154041082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SGB-c1fy8

This music is fucking catchy as all fuck.
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SMT x narco novelas when
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>>154041954
Stupid human only the angels of prostitution are allowed to have sec and they are busy with Samael.

That is why the Grigori went after them human women.
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>>154041929
Not necessarily.

Bulleta is no waifu material, but it would be pretty cool to see her fighting Demonee-Ho or the dumb Lego Man. You also have Demitri who is a badass vampire that can genderswap his opponents, and there are other cool monsters.
The Darkstalkers cast is pretty cool and I miss them ;_;
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>>154042561
You get them in every crossover Capcom can shit out instead of making proper games.
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>>154042673
who is that ghost fox wolf thing
I want a plushy of that thing.
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>>154042770
Nips like making evolved Chironuppu art cause Hallelujah is a DEVIL CHILDREN.
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>>154042673
Morrigan and Felicia are not the only Darkstalkers...
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>>154042943
Does anyone else matter?
>>154042919
are there lewds
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>>154042943
Bitch I know that. The others show up in the RPG crossovers.
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>>154043058
No
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>>154043124
I hope that the Poo in loo gangster shows up in other games.
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>>154043058
Yes
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>>154043263
I want Sith Lord Vishnu and Superhero Odin.
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>>154043431
The nips seemed to really like Final.

There is a lot more cute and funny fanart of this game than there was with IV.
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Imagine how the internet nowadays would react to black Mark or sun glasses Hitler.
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>>154045474
God I miss the 80s and 90s.
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>>154043842
What are nips opinion of Inanna?
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SMT x Pokemon soon, we have LAW/CHAOS now.
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>>154046076
Gamefreak? In MY SMT? The beta uprising shall soon commence.
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>>154041082
>didnt see it coming this time
>>
Hoy.
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How's the dlc for SMT IV? Is it worth to buy them all?
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>>154046076
Calling it the Aether Foundation are the real villains. They look too Law.
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>>154048297
Just the Archangels and YHVHs two avatars.
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>>154048298
I'd like it if you could choose to side between the two
[Spoiler]or choose neither and become the shin pokemon master[/Spoiler]
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>>154049156
You don't capitalize spoiler.
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>>154045474
CENSORSHIP

THE ARTISTIC INTEGRITY
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>>154049156
When you're typing click ctrl+s
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>>154048469
Are the two YHVH avatars, "Ancient One of the Sun" and "The Eternal Youth"?
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Nearly every boss in TMS has more clever gimmicks and is more interesting than nearly every boss in SmirkMT4.

Fite me fags.
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>>154049693
I haven't played TMS but you're probably right.
>>
>SMT online shut down in Japan now too
aww
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Does DeSu OC play like Utawarerumono with SMT moves/abilities?
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>>154050018
Utawarerumono plays like cheap disgaea.

DeSu plays essentially any SRPG but battles are short JRPG battles.
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>>154050127
To be clear on what "short JRPG battles" means is that it is an SRPG, but whenever someone attacks someone else, they act out one turn of a JRPG battle (and then there is an extra turn if you get them, similar to press turn granting extra turns) and then it goes back out to SRPG.
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>>154045474
>implying they wouldn't be all over sunglasses hitler
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Why this chiaki form is perfect?
>i see this
>boner
GNNHHH!
Maybe i am are lawfag?
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>>154051932
you have shit taste for one
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>>154049686
Yes.
>>
Metatron hasn't been relevant in quite a while, has he?
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>>154051932
>world of STR fag
>gets BTFO by a mid-boss
>her biggest display of strenght was bullying a weak group of mannequins
>gets curbstombed by Demi-Fiend in every route that isn't hers
>she's not even the strongest Reason rep
>gets killed in her own route anyways

Chiaki is pretty lame.
>>
how do you leaver the virtual battlers in smt2?
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>>154052982
Nocturne started the whole Batatron being relevant.

Plus we have the Four, Megatron, Mastema, and Satan as demon Law Reps.
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>>154052982
The archangels are all better than that pussy faggot Metatron.
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>>154055250
Poor Chaos they only have what? Lucifer and Mem Aleph that one time?
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>>154055352
Lucifer has changed from game to game. Especially in spinoffs. But yes. All the other are too busy being pretentious and playing the victim to stand up for themselves.

Then they throw a fit when they aren't relevant.
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>>154054443
You beat the boss or you die.
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>>154055352
Yeah, SMT1 had Asura, SJ had Mem Aleph. But other than that, it has always been some different version of Lucifer.
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>tfw gabriel's design for persona 5 will probably be kaneko's art so we won't have to go back to iv's dumb version
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>>154055352
Even in DEVIL CHILDREN he is the supreme demon king that Tyrant King Frost, Hel, Isis, Indra, Vibhishana, third Vedic guy, Mammon, and Belial.

Wind Makai in White Book even has demons worshiping Brahman in a demon made temple and Kali is one of his priestesses.
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Did I make my Build A Bear right?
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>>154057078
>He doesn't have Debilitate
>He does't have Salvation
>He doesn't have Antitichton
>He doesn't have Luster Candy
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>>154057526
Passed those over desu
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>>154057078
WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT MA STAT
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>>154057662
IN THE /TRASH/ WHERE IT BELONGS
DEX VS STR OR GET OUT
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>>154058096
>STR
>IN SMT
STAY KEKED
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>>154057662
*Blinks* I just realized that his Magic Stat is pitifully low. Holy fucking shit, the absolute madman didn't sink all his points into MA.

>>154058096
>Leveling up Strength or Dex
>In a Shin Megummy Tensay game

Call the National Guard, because I'm having a riot.
>>
if when
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>>154058160
>>154058254
>NOT going wurld of STR or DEX

Failure as humans!
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>>154058254
>>154058160
>mfw reading these posts and this build has carried me through the game
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>>154058362
>>154058465
>he didn't use mystical abilities in a series about mystical abilities
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>>153990032
I want to protect that smile
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>>154058612
>he didn't stay as human as possible
Down a red pill cuntboi
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>yfw this starts playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmbiENL5qYQ
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>>154058612
>relying on power and abilities that are not your own.
>not just blazing through with a melee weapon and a gun made by human hands and with your demon minions

I laugh at you.

And this is coming from a Chaosfag.

>>154058642
So you saying you want to protect your own smile...?
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>>154058738
>>154058885
Hey, while Heroine is infinitely stunlocking bosses in SMT 1 and Hero is doing piddling damage, you can do your thing dude.
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>>154058808
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>>154058808
That sucks, this is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdvM6Wsr7IU
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>>154058967
Hero had a hard life.
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>>154059045
Blasphemy.

>when those fucking drums kick in
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>>154058967
Its ok.
Its not like she's relevant or anything. Ever.
She doesn't win jack for it anyway. Does she get a cameo in the DLC?
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>>154059221
She probably isn't dead by SMT 2 because of a cave in, that's for sure.
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i'm starting Strange Journey now, what can i expect?
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>>154059045
Merk definitely had great themes

Archangels had a better one
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>>154059342
>by a cave in
>hero
>dying to a cave in
Fuck off scum. That's a cover story.
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>>154059383
Play the fucking game also Law a best
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>>154058967
Man, SMT1 was just "zio+whatever". I have no idea why I still like that game so much. Maybe it's because I this starts to play in my head every time I think about it:

https://youtu.be/NFjnPPZi_nA
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>>154059342
Sorry she is making more Cains with Samael.
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>>154059383
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>>154059489
May, I remind you:

>Aleph: Died to the Megiddo Ark
>Demi-fiend: Died to Lucifer
>Flynn: Died in the end game
>Hero...died in the very first section despite the Heroine, didn't even make it to the apocalypse

FUCKING KEK
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>>154059687
You forget that is after DemiFiend went TDE.

>>154059448
Reminds me how Seth Universe Battle combines Lucy and Metateons theme together for Imagine.
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>>154059687
>x died in x's worst path
>dlc renders their deaths noncanon
Sounds about right. Its not like Hero ever got anything like the rest did.
>aleph is literally jesus
>demifiend is half demon with magic
>flynn has magic
>hero had a dog
Hero wins.
>captcha is THOU
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>>154053858
>>she's not even the strongest Reason rep
It was supposed to be poetic or something.
Plus that anon was talking strictly about her design.
>>
>>154056447
>>tfw gabriel's design for persona 5 will probably be kaneko's art so we won't have to go back to iv's dumb version
>mfw you don't realise its probably going to be done by either Doi or Soejima
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>>154060041
Well Hero also has a noncucked fucking sidekick in Heroine that is fucking badass. Holy fucking shit, she does more than any other human in any of these games

>saves hero with magic
>REINCARNATES
>stays with you on any path
>best magic
>stunlocks anything
>hot as fuck
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>>154060041
He got Lilith eternally in love in him.

She just wants to have DEVIL CHILDREN with him.
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>>154060219
At least it'll be classic Gabriel so they'll have a hard time going back to the fluke that was IV's archangel/Lucifer design.
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>>154060231
So where did she go?
>>154060240
>lilith
>demon waifu
>adam has a demon waifu
Kazuya is pure. He has a dogger and wishes his mom would tuck him in one last time.
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>>154060449
After 1? Who the fuck knows. Probably died before Hero.
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>>154060360
Iv Lucy wouldn't work unless he is half of Satan anyways.
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>>154060586
more of these cute pictures please
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Why is the OP image so sexually arousing?
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>>154060917
Your wish shall be granted as I post.

>>154061036
Gods Will.
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>>154061036
Because Angewomon gave you your first boner.
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>>154028606
Retard.
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>debisama 4 the 3ds
Yar/nar?
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>>154061180
He's a retard for waiting?
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>>154061369
For multiple reasons.
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>>154061472
Care to elaborate?
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>>154061556
You're a faggot.
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>>154061556
For one it's not like it isn't incredibly easy to acquire digitally once it's released in the US.
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>>154061589
So you're just going to froth at your keyboard like an autist then. Okay.
>>154061714
But muh region lock.
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>>154061319
fund it you homo
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>>154061714
Not everyone is a piratefag though
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>>154061834
Aight. Retard then. Get a9lhx and quit your bitching over waiting for European releases.
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>>154061714
>>154061970
>thinking everyone is a piratefag
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>>154061834
>But muh region lock.
You're joking right?

>>154061909
>purposely getting fucked by shit corporate practices for literally no reason
Man, if cuck hadn't lost all meaning do to constant memeing, you'd be a pretty good example.
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>>154010921
Dub can't be as shit as Devil Survivor Overclocked
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>>154062078
>>154062116
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>>154062078
>isn't a piratefag
>lamenting over release dates
>doesn't import
>shitposts on 4chan about it
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>>154062252
>>lamenting over release dates
>>doesn't import
I'm not >>154028606 though you dumb nigger.
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>be an ATLUS fan
>live in Europe
>own a 3DS
Explain how you don't import or pirate the US version while waiting 2 years for it to come out in your region?

I see literally no reason.
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>>154062252
>isn't a criminal
>lamenting over unjust laws
>doesn't just break them
>shitposts on 4chan about it
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>>154062634
>t. burgerstani
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>>154062583
I was offering a solution or two to the anon I first replied to.
Sorry sensei.
There isn't any excuse for not having homebrew enable anymore though.
>>154062634
Eurocucks ruin evrything. Just look at the Game Corner.
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>>154062779
That's not an answer, cuck.
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>>154062865
>Eurocucks ruin everything
Agree with you there boushi kun
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>>154060041
>THOU
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>>154059570
>b-but she's a 600 year old demon!
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>>154063875
Digusting lolicon. Not even ancient baby sacrificing Gods would like you!
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>>154045474
Black Mark would be mocked but none of Persona 1 aged well outside that.
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>>154064693
They dont Americanize SMT games anymore unless its a reference no one would know anyways.

The Fuhrer was done in Japan as well afterall.
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>>154059687
Yeah, and that version of Hero is on par with that Aleph, Demi-Fiend, and Flynn before he even went into the apocalypse.
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>you will never look this cool
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>>154066456
>I will never look this autistic
Feelsgoodman.jpeg
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>>154066687
>>154066874
You look pretty god damn autistic right now.
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Haha
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>>154066874
>>154066687
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>>154066874
You should probably delete this one too.
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>>154066687
>>154067119
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>>154068281
>I'll never own that plushie
kill me
>>
I'm on the 5th day of DeSu OC, first time playing it

Do I get to kill my friends like muh mainline or is it more Persona power of friendship shit
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>>154068363
I have one.
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>>154068590
On Despot Overlord.
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Is there any harm in overleveling in SMT IV? I tend to play for like an hour a day and just grind a level or so since classes started back. I just got to Ueno if that matters at all
>>
>>154070387
Besides making the game easier than before, no.
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>>154068363
you cant still get that special edition
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OccLyFbk7rU

This was kinda interesting. He goes on about alignments and such.
>>
[Nemissa the semen demon is here]
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>>154073276
Sexy defines her.
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>>154073276
Weird that she is a Native American angel.
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>>154073403
Indeed.
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>>154073498
>angel
>leather outfit
>showing off the cleavage
>that personality
Me likey.
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>>154073498
What does this image mean?
>Inb4 the pleasure of being cummed inside.
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>>154075649
the pleasure of being cummed inside
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>>154070387
SMT4 isn't a game you should care about the balancing in. It isn't a proper so hardcore deep experience. Don't worry about it.

But to address the actual concern, not really. Individual levels don't mean a lot, and having App Points to unlock more cool stuff is more important than most things. XP dropoff on lower level enemies is pretty sharp so apart from a few points in the game where enemy levels spike or you can find an enemy level spike area next to yours (I think the latter only happens like twice in the whole game) you'll find yourself hitting a wall on XP eventually.

Note that this grinding won't get you cash unless you're doing relic runs or spamming max upgraded Fundraise.
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>>154075649
>>154075801
Like pottery
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>mfw I reached the last dungeon of DDS 2 witouth devouring enemies or using Atma Bonus

FUCK
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>>154076034
How?
>>
Wait what
http://nichegamer.com/2016/02/hindus-are-pissed-that-krishna-is-in-shin-megami-tensei-iv-final/
>Inb4 slowpoke
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>>154076202
People without a face can just do it.
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>>154076492
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>>154076486
It's funny that we never got any Christian backlash against MegaTen, but instead we get Hindu backlash. Oh well, I don't get why these people can just accept the fact that it's just a game, not a holy book.
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>>154076486
Fucking slowpokes I swear to God.
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>>154071783
He barely even scratched the meta. As expected from patreon shitters.
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>>154071783
Stop shilling your garbage.
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I want to fuck Burroughs
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>>154077717
I want to fuck you anon.
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>>154078046
I want to fucking die.
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>>154078331
Channel your inner Isabeau
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>>154077717
Im a collarbone guy now because of her
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>>154078331
Suicide Pact when?
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>>154078367
I'm much too sure of myself to do that.

>>154078409
RIGHT NOW
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>>154078495
What location?
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>>154078575
Right here, in the center of this sigil that's definitely not drawn with blood and candle wax.
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>>154078754
I'll get the inconspicuous specially designed knife.
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>>154057078
No, you should have swapped Luck and Dx. Even then I think around 255 maxes out Crit.
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>>154071783
Thanks for sharing this.
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>>154071783
Complete trash, fuck you if you actually think this is alignment conversation.
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>>154012330
>I want games where alkignment leaders aren't interested in violent revolutions that will end bloodily and ultimately lead nowhere but slower changes with society accomodating. >2real

Well, devil survivor had this. Its just not common.
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>>154029559
Are you really making your cry for help on smtg of all places, or is this advanced trolling of some form I'm unfamiliar.
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Why Raidou games are such a bore?
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>>154026936
Pirating it for undub and coz fuck Atlus.
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>>154079759
>fuck Atlus
Why are you here and playing the games then?
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>>154051932
Chiaki has nothing to do with mainline law.
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>>154059383
Being bored for 50 hours.
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>>154079828
I am playing the game of Atlus employees, not marketologists and publishers.
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>>154079674
Because 2 had a plot so incoherent that they literally don't bother telling you how or why the end boss is the end boss.
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>>154079828
To laugh at you.
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>>154080293
>I am playing the game of Atlus employees, not marketologists and publishers.

That is an extremely retarded argument.
Give the Atlus employees the money they need to put food on the table if you're going to talk semantics.

>>154080442
>Calls company shitty
>Still plays their games and browses the generals

ebin
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>>154059383
Honest Mastema.
>>
I love that there is no one here who can rationalize being like this but they stick to it.

>>154062634
>>154062634
>>154062634
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>>154080684
>pls gib fud :((((
Pathetic. I will give some cheeseburgers to Yamai when I'll get to Tokyo for sure, but no food for marketologists and translators, sorry.
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>>154080752
Because the yurocucks are too busy getting raped by mudslimes to think logically.
>>
Halloween is coming up in a month & you're going to a party with your acquaintances on that day.

Who/what would you guys dress up as for Halloween
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>>154080684
>Still plays their games and browses the generals
Hardin please. Its not like these generals and their games aren't shitty as well.
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>>154080938
No one because I have no friends, even in the fictional world.
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>>154080938
Isabeu
i am gonna suck a lot of cocks
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>>154080938
No one because nobody celebrating this shitty holiday here.
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>>154080997
> Its not like these generals and their games aren't shitty as well
If you think the games suck then don't play them. Don't browse the generals either.
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>>154081060
But she's pure.
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>>154080938
>friends

I predict i'd be here home on this slowly breaking down dirty laptop, playing a fucking mobage of all things, trying to get me this one waifu.
>>
I want to name my daughter after Isabeau!
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>>154080381
It was pretty easy by just reading the dialogue. He became the servant of YHVH King Abaddon to lead people into despair to save them and kill Raidou who spreads the poison hope.

>Raidou is the original Danganronpa Hope/Despair plot
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>>154081663
>Wanting to name your daughter after a monkey
Wew lad
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>>154081179
Make me, nerd.
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>>154082436
Better back the fuck off before I suck your fucking cock.
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>>154081746
That doesn't explain it though. That part is obvious. The question is how or when it happened. Dahn spent all game trying to become king abbadon. And failed somehow. Shinado then just somehow was. Was it always king abbadon? Did it become so at some point? Why was all its dialogue trying to be cryptic, but in reality was just retarded? Why was yhvh or whoever set up the system too lazy to actually make sure that whoever got power over it used it the way they wanted? Why did the game poorly try to crowbar alignments into it, but not only made them effectively pointless other than for ng+, but also tried to add in angels and demons who were also totally pointless to the plot. Did the angels care that this random thing became king abbadon? Was the fact that the bug people were bugs related to the appolyn horde?

Raidou really suffered from theoretically interesting plots that just went nowhere. Raidou 1 was good, but could have used more actual villains on the villain side rather than just one guy who controls a slave army, and the guy who is using him. And narumi was written so bizarrely, that I'm not sure whether we're meant to see him as a real ally in detective work or we're just meant to see him as a msotly incompetent person raidou humors.
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>>154082782
Because Shinado knew exactly what it was (being a harbinger of despair) and already lived in the Abyssal Realm where King Abaddon resides. He even tells you he'll become King.

The King Abaddon was set up by God and all the bosses you fight are despair angels (Apollyon), Four Horsemen (Also Angels), the Ophanim, and one fallen angel/Herald along with Shinado and Dahn/Akane.

Also Shinado was using it the way YHVH intended. Inflicting despair/fear of God to "save" them.

The rest can be figured out by TALKING TO FUCKING NPCS. Yes many Apollyon were once bug people.
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>All this talk about Raidou

I should probably hurry up and finish 2.
>>
Oh its you again
Macca opens all doors
>>
>>154082240
it's a cute name
>>
>Somehow ended up on Law I think

Was it because of that test before you had to enter Shinado's place? I only went right once, did it have that big of an impact?
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>>154085000
In raidou literally all the nice answers are law. Even saying you will befriend demons is law.
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>>154085000
That's a nice law get anon.
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>>154085089
I'm definitely going to re-do that test then.
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>>154085089
Pretty much. All the nice answers even when they are suicidally stupid are Law I recall. Like the one about whether you should let a king make a dool of himself or tell the truth and be executed.

Also the one from Narumi about persecuting and exiling those who are different is Law.
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>>154085258
Also strangely, I think once, it says that helping your friend rob a place because turning him in to the authorities would be mean to him is law? Like, what? That's law now?
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>>154085315
The best one is how Dahn asks if you'll let him become King Abaddon by still killing people in Tokyo. Saying no is the chaos option of all things.
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>>154085389
The SMT Experience™
>>
What you guys don't realize is that Raidou is on his own side and that the original Law and Chaos shit don't apply to him. Law and Chaos in the Raidou games just make him a law abiding dude doing good things or bad (actually neutral) dude doing good things.
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>>154085389
This is another one of those times atlus admits it has no clue how to make an open ended alignment system conform to games with specific presumed outcomes you're trying to aim them to whether or not it makes sense.
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>stuffed Jack Frost for sale on TGS
>no stuffed Morgana and Teddie
Its like they don't want our money.
>>
Re-doing the test didn't help a lick. Should I just complete the Law path? Can doing any quests tilt me back towards Chaos? Is it possible to still get Neutral? I'm pretty miffed
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>>154085689
Anon. Just give in and praise messiah who is the lord and also the christ.
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>>154085689
Law is the only way.
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>>154085628
I feel it makes sense if you look at the way they likely intended to fit the people ingame.

Chaos characters = jerks who do dickish thingsbut are still good people despite it.

Law = suicidally conformist and "nice" to the point of suicidal. Also bug rape is okay even if it truly doesn't help anyone in the long run.
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>>154085689
Accept the bead, anon.
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>>154085631
>no teddie or morgana

but i thought... that persona was really the future of SMT!
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>>154085689
Use shapeshifting for alignment change. Mentioned on the wiki.
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>>154086040
By this its mentioned on the page of a girl you can shapeshit into. That's what I meant.
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>>154085736
Go away Mastema

>>154085875
>>154086002
Pls no

>>154085984
So just being nice to people, but distinctly being against the bugs and always going for choosing your own path wasn't enough?

>>154086040
Available through a Case File? I'll get on it then, thanks.

Are there even any benefits of going Law? Any new cases, or route-only demons?
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>>154086208
Right now you should be able to do Asuras quest. Does not require alignment lock.
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>>154086208
No no Dahn likes the Mushibito and they are portrayed sympathetically. It's the Tento Lords who do the bug rape and look down on humans. That's why there are two homes.
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>>154061180
>>154061714
>>154061970
>>154062252

I'm >>154028606. I never bitched about the release date. I even said I have a fucking gigantic backlog to keep me occupied. And no, I don't need to pirate. I actually work and have money, so spending around 40~50€ to buy games I like really doesn't bother me at all. Also I collect them.
>>
>>154086208
Shizu Iida who is a minor NPC in King Abaddon. She's the one you need indeed.
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>>154086383
>so spending around 40~50€ to buy inferior dub-only product full of memes doesn't bother me at all
Cuck.
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>>154086383
>I never bitched about the release date
That's literally what you did though, you even linked the post.

>I actually work and have money, so spending around 40~50€ to buy games I like really doesn't bother me at all
Oh, I see, you're actually retarded.

>m-muh job y-you guys are just poor
This has nothing to do with the conversation, dipshit, no one is saying you should pirate a game you can't afford nor did anyone advocate pirating the game in US, in this specific conversation.

>I-I collect them
Again, what does this have to do with anything? You do realize you can buy the game when it comes out right? That having played it before hand doesn't make this magical barrier around the game right?

Oh, but you felt the need to self-righteously shitpost on 4chan, sorry your feelings got hurt.
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>>154086703
>Oh, but you felt the need to self-righteously shitpost on 4chan
So everyone in this general? Not him btw
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>>154086378
I know, I meant the Tento Lords. Couldn't remember their names.

>>154086284
>>154086449
Great, hopefully this will get me to Chaos.
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>>154086383
>literally say you have a job and can afford games so you don't import
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154086703
I'm honestly confused. I didn't intend to bitch about the release date. More or less yuropoors are used to this since it's not just the 3DS that the US and EUR release dates are so apart from each other.
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>>154086831
Luck stat also boosts the chances I've heard.
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>>154086845
>I'm honestly confused
Says the guy who just bragged that he has money so he doesn't import.
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>>154086831
Asura requires you to be Law so make sure to talk to the herald. Also you can earn chaos points by telling him to go to SMTI in the future.
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>>154086961
Because I don't mind waiting and have a shit ton of games to play during until November? That's exactly what I said, I don't mind waiting because I have a backlog to clear.
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>>154086383
>I collect them
>as I refuse anything but a digital copy
What?
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>>154087117
Apocalypse is actually getting a physical european release. Go figure.
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>>154086884
I've got 21 Luck, including 14 Insect cages that are filled with Luck Locusts. Not enough?

>>154086980
Alright, got it. A bit strange that a Case File that requires you to be Law to get gives you Chaos points. Did they leave it as a way to change your alignment in case you wanted to change it before you hit the gates?
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>>154087248
Yeah it's a Law/Chaos choice at that point.
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>>154087248
Sorry can't say how much of a difference it makes just that it gives a boost.
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>>154087248
I think its just that they consider it ideologically charged in general. SJ did the same for both law and chaos. But you get in a situation that corresponds to being of one alignment, yet still have the ability to deviate. Its something that in DnD would exist plenty.
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>>154087449
>>154087505
I see. Thanks for the help, hoping I get Chaos.

>>154087573
That makes sense. SMT DnD when?
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hoi
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>>154091315
IM tEMmie.
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You know what I think the biggest problem with apocalypse is? The plot doesn't seem to be written in a way to make massacre flow from it. It seems written obviously for bonds, but with another option given. In most of the other games the various endings seem more natural. This just seems like its thrown in randomly. Or rather its so offhand that it is specifically written to come out of left field. Just to make it seem less viable.
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>>154092839
Massacre or bust.
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>>154091938
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>"Ok this time I'll get Chaos instead of Law if I do no quests that look suspicious"
>Do 4 Demon quests for easy incenses early game because playing on Hard and they cheep
>Choose to change the world
>Neutral
>Apparently that harmless dying Woman gave me 10 law points

I just wanna side with hoy to make the best tokyo why is this so hard to me
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>>154097984
I don't understand how people have problems getting law or chaos. Usually the options that give law points and chaos points are really obvious, that shit with the lady is no exception. What's so hard about picking chaos options all the time?
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>>154098068
I figured it'd give me some law points, but that it was mostly to adjust things to Neutral, 10 is a lot.
That said, I did keep keep some levels of authenticity in the end figuring I was too far on the Chaos spectrum, so it's really my own fault yeah
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>>154097984
Why are you complaining? Neutral is best and only true ending.
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>>154066456
Me on the right.
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>>154011346
>Could probably be close to IS and EP levels.
You mean those trash heap PS1 Era SMT games where the difficulty was so not present and the combat so uninvolved that you could literally press triangle for every combat encounter, never get a game over, and finish the game without ever inputting a direct command? I hope to god P5 never reaches IS and EP levels of shitty.
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>>154104217
Relax.
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>>154104217
Still better thematically than nu-Persona
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>>154097984
Yes, that woman in Ikebukuro gives a Huge, HUGE ammount of Law/Chaos points. As much as the last decision to change the status quo.

Things is that the mandatory plot quests give a lot of Law points
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>DQ7 out in a week
>SMT IV Final out 4 days after that
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>>154105718
Best cast and story I agree with.
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>>154106761
>Ace Attorney 6 tomorrow motherfucker
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>>154106998

Fuck, that's right. That one snuck up on me.
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>>154106998
But I'm still playing Trials and tribulations.
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>>154104217
It's funny how the best combat in Persona is still from the first one. Kinda unbalanced but still great.
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>>154109083
I thought I was the only one who legitimately held that opinion
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I'm playing DDS 2 just reached the Airport but I was wondering if I should keep Sera or Serph in my party? having 2 weakneses to fire worries me
I think I will keep Sera since she has learned more skills
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>>154109993
I already defended that several times in this general though. Honestly, I'd pick P1 as my favorite Persona and it's not a matter of being contrarian either since I started with P3 and P4 and then played P1 and P2 IS.
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>>154110498
Keep Sera.
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>>154110614
My journeys to the general are sporadic at best. I also started with P3 though
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>>154110936
I don't blame you for not wanting to see random anonymous people bitch about each others alignments and favorite games of the series.
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>atlus usa didnt translate the demon backstory videos of FINAL
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Is there a translated manual of smt2?
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I heard an interesting viewpoint earlier in that /v/ thread about TMS
>Nocturne shouldn't have been SMT III because it feels more like a spinoff and even guest features a character from another series (Dante)
>Strange Journey should have been the actual SMT III
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>>154104217
>you could literally press triangle for every combat encounter
You can't do this on EP retard
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>>154057078
>Dex
You did good
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>>154113063
>>Strange Journey should have been the actual SMT III
muh Tokyo
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so what will be a good build for apocalypse? is wurld of str viable?
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>>154058254
>the absolute madman didn't sink all his points into MA.
Why would he? Physical/Gun build is leagues better than shitty magic in IV
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Un más dios rechazado
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>>154059383
>Mastema
>the most extreme Law and Chaos endings
>Dungeon crawling
>random stat allocation despite what the game may say to you
>more Mastema
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>>154114994
Seems like they split STR and DEX for Physical and Gun damage. Basically STR build is viable again.
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HOY
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Rakukajon
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When lawfags suddenly pop up on your chinese cartoons
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>>154113063

Except he wasn't included in the original release.
It sounds like the entire argument is "MUH 2D"
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>>154118126
That drawing is so ugly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mtkA5bPpaU

Is it sad that the theme is getting me super hype?
Fuck.
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>>154118595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvtUCUM9yCU
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>>154118595
They had me at the first battle theme, just like IV. Based Koduka.
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>Walter teleports in and saves /smtg/ from dying
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>>154109993
>>154109083
guess there's 3 of us

I feel the grid system was genuinely good - it actually made a lot of sense, letting you position your team according to roles, spears having different threat areas than swords etc.

It actually let you have tankier characters in the front and squishier in the back which affected what they could be hit by - what really came back only in the Persona Q spinoff as front/back.

But no, everyone remembers Masao/Mark and his way too small axe/shotgun threat areas.
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>>154059383
hahaha, you want repel X?
fuck you, no rerolls
no, it won't go to the one source you'll get
no, good luck grinding for another
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>>154123434
>mark shotgun
fucking useless
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>>154121506
>hoy... nothing personel kid
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can someone explain something to me.
i know this is a SMT thread but i got to ask this

Persona went from demons in 1 and 2 to shadows and the emo self.

what the fuck happened in persona 2 ep PSP that changed this shit

what are demons in that extra shit they put in
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>>154123434
I agree. The grid system was a pretty well thought out and flexible system. Too bad we never got anything similar again. I think the only real problem with P1 was the fact that you couldn't freely interchange characters.
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>>154124930
Persona 2 diverged in two realities, one of them is fucked and the other one is just as fine as our real world.

P3, 4 & 5 take place in this ok universe. Demons didn't show up in 3-4 because fuck the lore, the original writter left, so they toned things down to bring over a new audience (and it worked).
Apparently P5 is gonna have all: demons, personas and shadows, but I would be lying if I said I know in what kind of way.
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>>154124930
>>154125528
Man, I should really play EP one of these days. Any news on Portable translation?
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>>154125223
Well, it's a remnant from if... that the team member you choose is a permanent addition.
I feel the grid could be fixed easily by giving a penalty to attacks outside rang, either accuracy or power.
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>>154125528
wait so the Fucked world has people still and are stuck?
Philemon is a fucking dick
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>>154125528
The 'demons' on P5 are confirmed to be shadows already
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>>154125880
It truly is Tatsuya's Eternal Punishment™ for committing an Innocent Sin™.
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>>154123434
4.

I like the grid system. It feels like them trying to take the front row/back row stuff from mainline and Debisama and take it farther. I understand why people don't like it, characters often end up just useless after a point, but it was an interesting attempt.

Maybe it could have been improved if all Persona skills are guaranteed to at least get the first row (and then maybe hit more depending on the skill). This way someone like Mark wouldn't be useless for a few turns because the last few enemies are all on the left side.
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>>154125528
Is Sea of Souls something established in mainline SMT anyway? As retarded as attempting to weld canons from three different lores.
>>154125636
Never Ever, as always.
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>>154126093
Eternal Punishment my ass. he could have stayed and shit would have been fine. That nigga Philemon could have just used his shit powers to go back in time and stop that shit
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>>154125923
When you ayo hold up shadows and recruit them, they remember they're actual demons
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>>154126406
They remember they're actually personas...
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>>154123782
You can just use Mitamas+any source to shuffle skills and customize your demons the way you want them.

>>154123434
The only problem with the grid system IMO was how easy it was to get magic that hits everything anyway, while Physical skills barely hit anything, and at the same time base how much EXP you get by how much each character did in that fight. Sad that they just decided to get rid of it entirely than trying to actually improve on it and just went with the boring system from P2.

I do think Persona 1 is the best in the series, even though I am pretty attached to FES. No bullshit; just pure dungeon crawling with good characters, story, and atmosphere. The greater focus on psychology was also legitmately interesting and made for a very unique setting. I just wish that it was harder.
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>>154126761
I don't remember, but iirc Mitamas didn't overwrite skills in SJ.
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>>154127230
You need to use a source while doing the mitama fusion, and probably need to have more than 6 skills in them mix too, but you can reroll with it. Check my Loki.
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>>154126587
correct buy
no difference
demons are personas and personas are the human subconscious giving it form.

the way i see monsters in persona is like the way i see yhwh in SMT as both are made by humans and will never die because humans want them.
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Would you a Seraph?
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>>154128096
Sure why not.
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>>154128096
Absolutely.
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>>154125867
Part of me wishes P1 would get an actual remake. But I know Atlus would just slap SLs, a calendar and the One More system and call it a day.
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>>154127408
MY EYES
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>>154128096
But he's a dude.
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>>154129629
Even the PSP version, which was supposed to be just a port, managed to kill the atmosphere entirely by 'modernizing' the OST and trying to make it more like nu-Persona. I think it's better to just leave it as it is.

>>154129820
Hey, I tried, dude. I'm positive there's no way to make DS emulators look good on PC without playing in a tiny screen for ants, and my vision sucks ass so I'm not subjecting myself to that.
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>>154132270
For what is worth, I kinda enjoyed some of new tracks in P1P. Also that engrish was catchy as fuck.

>SAVE ME FROM THAT BURADY DESTINY
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>>154092839
Dagda pretty much spends most of the game talking about killing god. Its not is fault that Final is filled with one MC and 6 Yuzus. Plus, in Bonds its only a matter of time until Danu goes full law and brainwashes humanity to obey the faries.
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>>154133373
you mean kill humanity and give birth to a new one that will serve the faeries since brainwashing is evil :^)
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Almost done with nocturne and I gotta say, its been really good.
The only real thing I can complain about it the battle music being such bad quality.
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>>154133785
That sounds like something Inanna would do if she ever gets out of Nozomi to spite Danu for stealing her powers.
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>>154133785
Don't worry, Atlus made sure you would think that bonds is the right choice. Even Dagda is okay with you killing him at the end. They made sure not to leave even the slightest doubt in your mind, that you might be doing the wrong thing. It's not like the game is biased against the massacre route or anything.
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>>154129629
>But I know Atlus would just slap SLs, a calendar and the One More system and call it a day.

I know this would completely change P1, but I wouldn't mind that. We would still have the original P1, but now we have another Persona game and this one could expand on the characters some. It wouldn't be as cool as an actual remake but I'd dig it.
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>>154135531
>SLs
Atlus only managed to make like 4 interesting SLs in the span of 2 games and 2 updated remakes so I doubt they can do an interesting one. I'd rather just have the characterization made through dialogue like usual RPGs.

>calendar
The calendar is the best thing to completely break the rhythm of a game and the pacing of the story.

>One More system
Like me and the other anons said, P1's combat is great, One More not really. I'd could tolerate if they put in the rest but fucking up the gameplay instead of tweaking and perfecting it, no thanks.

Also, I'd wager that the calendar and SLs would probably ruin the atmosphere of P1. I mean, you're trapped in a city where demons are running around killing people/trapped in a school filled with demons and you're wasting your time casually socializing and passing the days?
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>>154136562
>demons
They would be called 'shadows' and you know it.

Also, Nanjo's social link will revolve around teaching him to eat junk food, you will be limited to 4 party members who can't change personas, Snow Queen quest is removed entirely and Mark is replaced by a talking animal mascot who hits on all the girls.
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>>154137373
I wish Morgana would hit on me.
And then fuck me.
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>>154138027
I wish Morgana would hit you with whatever wacky weapon he uses in combat and kill you.
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>>154136562
>P1's combat is great,
The battles are slow,the summoning animations are lengthy and the grid system is atrocious especially when the game make a shitty party member with shitty range like Mark obligatory. P1 is one of the clunkiest games atlus ever released.
>you're trapped in a city where demons are running around killing people
SEBEC route was filled with comedic segments also there's a implication that the people on Maki's ideal world know how to fight and that is just a part of their daily lives so there's no urgency factor like in P2 that would hamper the social aspect to be implemented desu.
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>>154132270
>he doesn't like School Days
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So is Final as Shit as IV? I was considering getting it but not if it's as big a waste of money as IV was.
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>>154138352
>persona characters
>capable of killing anything
I'm behind 3 Luster Candies and ready to cast the last Debilitate. Makarakarn and Tetrakarn are already set up.
Come at me.
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>>154138536
You may as well go back to your dead Sony console if you think the smt4 is shit meme is true.
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>>154138683
He didn't even mention a Sony console and he's not wrong. Why are IV babies so aggressive all the time?
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>>154138841
>aggressive
Triggered?
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>>154139217
>u-u m-ma- I MEAN TRIGGERED that's what all the cool kids are u-using now r-right
Bitch get out.
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13 Days until Final.

Fuck man I have nothing else to do for 13 days.
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>>154138549
>Makarakarn
Looks like my demonfu has a spell to counter that shit finally.
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>>154139340
trying too hard, please stop
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>>154139340
is that a stirner dressed as spooky?
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reminder that morgana is gouto
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>>154139791
Yes.
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>>154139502
>those stats
lol
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>>154135017
Yeah. That's the real problem. Its one thing that massacre only has a few people on your side by the end. But the real problem is that all the people with you on massacre... are still with you on bonds. Dagda gets "reborn" to be with you. Satan still sides with you, even though he has less to say to you, so he lets walter and johnathan do the talking. (I guess at least that implies he'd rather you have taken massacre, but is okay with whatever, since either way he decided yhvh is a shitty boss?) Steven obviously wanted you to take bonds, and only reluctantly helps you on massacre because he's out of other options. Flynn and your chosen partner it goes without saying are more freely going with you on bonds.

So in the end, there isn't a single person who is massacre exclusive. Literally everyone in the world is on your side in bonds other than yhvh himself, and the polytheistic alliance leaders. Even merkabah and lucifer are indirectly now. Making it ironic that despite having to fight a bit of the heavenly host, in the end they are all on your side too. Also, surprise, the armies of hell are a secret ruse made by them too, so you can have both. Anything you want. Do you want a blowjob, too? I'm surprised that you don't somehow have yhvh in your party by the end too.
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>>154138536
Final is going to be way better than IV. For instance, final has a real plot, and more than three characters. Unlike IV.
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>>154140119
>that first paragraph
Just what the fuck kind of relationship does Nanashi have with everyone? Did he literally get a harem?
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>>154139791
Laws are a spook.
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is Flynn the first canonically named protag?
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>>154140418
Tatsuya counts.
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>>154140289
On the bonds ending literally every goddamn character in the game is on your side by the end. Including all the unnamed hordes of messians and gaians. And the only people or demons who die are the leaders of the villain sides. All your friends are more or less all over your dick by the end. Including the male ones.
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>>154140119
>I'm surprised that you don't somehow have yhvh in your party by the end too.
They are saving that for SMT X Yokai Watch
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>>154140289
Oh, right. Did I mention that both lucifer and merkabah side with you too? Also the goddamn great will gives you its blessing.
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>>154141194
FINAL confirmed for final gaem.
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>>154140119
If they were going to rehash SMT2 Chaos and Law endings, I really wish they would go all the way and made it so that Satan only sided with you on Massacre. It would have been nice to have at least him as the route exclusive ally with an actual different opinion. I understand why you need "a" Dagda since he is the mission control character and you need him for the DLCs.
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>>154141738
Why can't we have more Burroughs?
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>>154141738
You wouldn't really need a dagda. They could simply replace him with another character after his death. Instead of making him sappy and basically give up at the end, make him a real opponent, and he dies, gives a speech about how only wanted blah blah, and leaves the story.

Lets be honest. the real reason he comes back isn't because they thought it was be too hard to replace him for the plot to disrupt the mission control. Its simply because him dying would be too sad, and they wanted bonds to be entirely positive.
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>>154142159
dagda a waifu tho
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Okay. So lets look at the continuity and discontinuity between IV and IVA.

Here's question #1. Does IVA admit that the messians and gaians in game were syncretic in IV? Or does it pretend like they were always just about angels and fallen angels. Because in IV, there's some other demons in purgatorium and lucifer palace. And hugo is clearly a buddhist monk. And in the side universe that one polytheistic god is on the side of law, despite betraying them. And the gaians very definitely look like an eastern religion. So are we meant to take it that the polytheistic gods got fed up and realized that they were being pushed around by the angels and fallen angels and always played second fiddle? Or does the game just ignore that those religions were meant to be seen that way at all.

What's more, the games act like everything abrahamic was created to be a control system for yhvh. The small problem here is that mem aleph is abrahamic, and there's a statue of her in the gaian temple. So what is her actual role in IVA? Obviously she's not a character. But are we meant to see her as another thing created by yhvh to be used by him? Is she yhvh himself taking another form? Sj presented her as like his equal and counterpoint. IVA obviously has its own rules, but either way they are ignoring that. The game sweeps her under the rug, when in reality she should have been actually present as like a midboss in the last area or something.

If satan knew that fusing with humans would disrupt the system, why did he allow it in iv? Or did he? Was that an indication of the fact that he didn't have perfect control, and merkabah and lucifer did things on their own? Was it a reflection of his doubts, and he wanted to see things from a human perspective, to decide? Was it a reflection of THEIR doubts, and they realized this would help? How much control did satan even have when they were split? Or did he not directly have any, they were just set up to balance.
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Neutral or Law?
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>>154143089
Law.
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>>154143089
Neutlaw.
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>>154143089
Anything but law.
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>>154143089
Chaos.
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>>154143089
White/TDE/Stop playing the game.
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>>154139502
WOAH WOAH HOLD UP
ARE GRAVITY AND NUCLEAR BACK?
PLEASE TELL ME THEY ARE
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>>154143089
Anon... there was only ever one possible choice.
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>>154143485
They are.
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>>154143564
FUCK YES
I'M DANCING CRAZY NOW
THIS MADE MY NIGHT
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>>154143089
Law so I can worship Zelenin
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>>154143089
humanity can only attain happiness throught the teachings of the bead
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>>154143089
Literally the only game it is acceptable to take neutral in is bonds for IVA. In every other game its a boring non ending where nothing happens and there's no point.
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Who would win in a fight?

One Asian Roommate

VS

A 3DS with Devil Survivor Overlocked inside.
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Best Cat
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>>154138536
Haven't played it but reports are that the combat is less fucking awful in Final and there are bigger, but worse, dungeons that aren't just fucking lines through tight corridors except for that one big town you clean up zombies from.
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>>154143916
stop
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>>154142037
Burroughs is the only good thing about SMT4. Gonna miss that slut in 4A. Would have been a great waifu choice too.
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Reminder that we're getting a Shin Megami Tensei If... translation stream in 15 minutes!
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BEHOLD
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>>154143089
Anything but Neutral
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I have one very important question.

Is the Challenge Quest Boss Theme in Apocalypse?

>>154145559
Only correct answer.
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>>154144376
Jesus christ Walter, are you okay? You look like a mess.
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>>154146569
That's not Walter, it's SMTV's Lucifer redesign.
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>>154146754
It all makes sense now.
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Is Dagda in SMT Final basically CCA Char spiced with a bit of Rau Le Creuset?
>We will never have Shuichi Ikeda's fantastic voice
I want to believe that this doesn't happen with P5 but knowing Atlus USA they will.
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>>154144304
>Shin Megami Tensei If.
link
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>>154147510
http://www.hitbox.tv/GideonZhi
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>>154143660
It's Psychic (from DS1) not Gravity, unfortunately. I'd have personally preferred Gravity and Earth come back instead of Psychic and Nuclear.
>>
Does anyone know if stat bonuses from the equipment in Kyuuyaku have any impact when that stat is already maxed?
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>>154147451
>CCA Char spiced with a bit of Rau Le Creuset
who
>>
Are there any unlikeable characters in Final?
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>>154148826
Yes, stat + item bonus totals over 35 are valid in calculations. There's a cap but you'd have to be cheating to reach it.
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>>153990914
stop
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>>154149759
Cool thanks, have an angel.
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should i replay smt iv and get other endings for smt final or fuck it

was going to get law or some shit but said fuck it and went white
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>>154143089
Neutral
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>>154150989
If you're planning to play IV:A since day 1, the clock is not going to be your friend.

That's what you get for being a whitefag.
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>>154151250
better white then lawfag and chaos fag
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>>154151250
there's a clock in IVA?
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>>154150989
Yoiu get streetpass titles and a 20 point card for each ending
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>>154151369
Don't think about the destination, but the journey itself. Law and chaos have some pretty cool specific side missions, not to mention the unique demons you get for your compendium.

>>154151493
I just mean that the dude has like 13 days to finish IV if he plans on playing IV:A since day one.
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>>154151662
>tfw I finished smtiv by playing it three days straight when it came out
If he really wanted to, he could. Especially since he's on NG+.
>>
So what demon would you base your tulpa on?
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>>154152858
I don't think I've ever identified with a demon. I'd fug a cute Angel though
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>>154153145
Which one? There's like 3, faggot.
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>>154153250
I know of 4.
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>>154153250
I've only played a handful of SMT games but IV seemed to have the lewdest iteration
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Hey /smtg/ what's fusion feel like?
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>>154153746
Like sex.
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>>154151510
Are the rewards tied to a single save file?
I'm finishing Neutral right now, but I have a previous save where I can just start and go White or Law/Chaos.
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>>154154712
As far as I know it's just a single save but I don't have the game or know the full deets.
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>>154153746
is like the pleasure that you feel when you get cummed inside
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What kind of demons could've been possibly summoned with Apple phones?
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>>154158503
gay ones
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>>154158503
Holy fuck, is that how much they charge for phones these days?
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>>154158895
You know nothing, m8.
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>>154144304

Never happening ever.
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>>154159198
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!
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>>154147561

>high pitch voiced autist

Why do I share the same league as these people?
>>
How the fuck do I move my alignment back down quickly from law in SMT1

fucking lord yama
>>
>>154160063
>complaining about free shit
Would you rather not play SMT1, SMT2, and SMTIf?
>>
>>154160186
>not realizing law is the only way
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>PS4 degenerates will defend this
Literally dub-only 60fps PS3-port
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>these pedestrians
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154161180
>>154161659
Pretty cool to be honest.
>>
>>154161180
>>154161659
PS3 version unironically looks better just because those garbage textures is not so obvious on 720p. 1080p version looks worse than PS2 games.
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>>154161659
Can you stop shitposting for a second my dude? It's clearly an intentional choice, just like how the pedestrians were in Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
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>>154161180
>>154161659
Literally upscale, what the fuck Atlus? I almost bought PS4 for this?
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>>154161180
What is /smtg/s stance on wanting to fuck a cat?
>>
>>154161180
>>154161659
>caring about niggersona
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>>154162120
Nobody was talking about #FE you sperg, but hey, those looks better just because they're just a subtle inconspicuous sillouettes, not some low-poly eyeless and deformed by scoliosis abominations.
>>
Will it be okay to discuss P5 in this general or will bitter faggots freak out and shitpost it all the time?
>>
>>154162657
>>>/pg/
>>
>>154162657
Yes and yes.
>>
>>154162120
What the fuck TMS looks more detailed than this garbage lmao.
>>
>>154161180
>>154161659
my major complain is that the combat looks slow as fuck
i need something like soul hackers in my life again
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>>154163637
You should try #FE
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>>154163864
are you meming me son?
I don't have a Wii u anyway.
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>>154163864
The combat isn't quick there, but the animations are cool and quick. There's just so many of them.

>>154164332
It's a solid game, really.
>>
>>154147561
So did he finish the translation?
>>
>>154164692
NEVER EVER
>>
the comfort of death will come,
for men and demons alike...
by the guidance of the Great Will
>>
>>154162657
You have your own general so I don't understand why you'd want to post here in the first place. Especially since we'll be talking about Apocalypse very soon.
>>
>>154160186
Bumping this because I'm getting frustrated trying to fix my alignment to neutral

Anything to get away from Law
>>
There's a game called Devil Survivor that uses similar spells and monsters from SMT but it's an sRPG instead of a dungeon crawl. It's pretty cool, thought you guys would want to know about it.
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You know, we used to joke about repair garageism, but look at all this actual shit in there.

>shinto mirror on altar
>shinto gate
>chinese Bagua board on wall
>the guy isn't there in this pic but he has a yin yang symbol on him.

There's four seperate religious things in the repair garage. And the guy in it even is dressed similarly to the guy from the healing dojo in I. It really is meant to be a continuation of a vague nondescript neutral religion.
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>>154142485
She has no role because while they pray at her statue they treat the earth like shit. She's just the Gaea of Ring of Gaea.
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>>154171280
She presumably exists in the context of IVs world though.
>>
>>154125923
Shadows are lesser demons already and so are personas.

Shiori got possessed by an artificial persona and became demon in EPP.
>>
>>154126587
It's the same thing.

Atma Avatars are cannibal personas.
>>
>>154171676
And it means nothing. It's just a reference.
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>>154158503
Zaccoums
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>>154172040
Yeah. The problem with when references are in the main part of the plot though is that you can't really just ignore them. This is a central part of the game, with one of the main groups, in their actual base. We can't treat it as "lol, that's the one god that doesn't exist in this world.)
>>
>>154174219
its like the demonica
is just a reference you mong
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>>154174278
The demonica is just a piece of armor. The statue is a depiction of an actual entity.
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Subs when
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>>154038969
No.
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How difficult would it be to make a MSU-1 patch for SMT1 or 2?
>>
>>154174412
And said entity does not matter, have importance or influence anything in IV. It's JUST a statue.

References dont have to matter to be shown. That's why we have 1/256 fiend rates.
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>>154177501
So you expect me to believe that this statue means nothing to them, and does not depict anything that is a real entity... for no better reason than that IVA's plot can't conveniently fit it in? Mastema is a reference, yet he's clearly an actual character in IVs world.
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>>154138683
I like strange journey though. SMT4 was garbage the combat was only hard because it RNG'd harder than the fucking mudo storms in SMT3. The plot wasn't good and the characters were bland. It was like Atlus' C team was designing the game. However, considering how much money is being put into the new persona game it seems like SMT is being relegated to the sidelines.
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>tfw only happiness in life is megaten
>tfw Final is coming out on my sad 25th birthday and its the only present I wish for
>tfw I only want to live long enough to see what V will looks like
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>>154139502
>>154148759
>Frei and Psy are in
FUCK. Literally better than P4 just because of that. Now I just hope we get Physical and Gun split at least.
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>>154183737
it's there already, nigger

do you even have eyes?
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>>154183889
Oh, shit it is. I just woke up. Thanks for heads up.
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>>154169013
I know that if you use the healer of an alignment, you gain points for that specific alignment. Use the Chaos-aligned healer.
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>>154169013
When you get to Tokyo Destiny Land (pretty soon) you can do a minigame to change your alignment easily. Other than that, you can try going to the Gaean healer and maybe kill only Law demons.
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>persona gets its own niconico stream
>SMT gets ???
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>>154185981
Actual good gameplay, story, atmosphere and music?
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>>154186067
Right Persona gets all those too. What does SMT get?
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>>154186092
>Right Persona gets all those too.
Yes, I admit the first Persona was great. The rest really never got such overall high quality.
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>>154186202
I agree Persona is great, but it's clear that Persona 3 is the best game Atlus has ever made.
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>>154186270
Depends on taste. However, in your case you're baiting and/or just have shit taste.
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>>154186396
Persona 3 is the Evangelion of video games
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New thread:
>>154187368
>>154187368
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>>154153746
>Implying you wouldn't just be a sacrifice
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