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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php?build=5
(This build is downloadable and playable)

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Running Giten Megami Tensei in windowed mode with Chiitrans:
http://pastebin.com/0gguMLyL
http://pastebin.com/21W8HmWY

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>>153989887
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Threadly reminder that Garu is just a meme Zan.
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What's with this meme Garu in Nocturne? Zan? What the heck?
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Reminder that all persona is trash.
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>>154187975
*except Persona 1
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>>154187691
>fire
>ice
>elec
>" "force" "
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>>154187975
Reminder that you will play and thoroughly enjoy persona 5.
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>>154188198
Make me
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>>154188071
I always assumed it was
>the 3 basic particle based energies
>plus Chi energy
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>>154188198
I'll possibly enjoy it more than P4, although that's not exactly an achievement.
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>>154188298
alright, i'll add in handcrafted dungeons with puzzles, new HD demon enemies, and social links that give you various additions to the battle system instead of just bonus experience.
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>>154188071
"Force" is just a meme Blast.
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>>154188430
It's still shit.
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>>154188430
>and social links that give you various additions to the battle system instead of just bonus experience.
Just remove them in their entirety for fuck's sake. Atlus proved again and again that they don't know how to make consistent decent SLs. Just make the choices that show up during dialogue matter, make the relationship actually evolve in a more natural way.
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Post random SMT artworks.
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>>154187691
What is it about hoyman that's so handsome?
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>>154191883
Literal perfection.
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>>154192264
>fucked up the spoilers
Fuck.
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>>154192264
>ywn be this attractive
Life sucks.
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I miss Tera skills and damaging curse moves.
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Hoy.
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>>154188430
Why are you waifuloving spergs love to bring up demons as something extraordinary? Its just a bunch of preoccupied stats in vessels of 3D models which are pretty much worse than something out of PS2 era when it comes to P5. You guys sounds pathetic as fuck, its like you're desperately trying too hard to make us brothers-patricians to notice you, inferior beings.
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>>154195308
Because it's a step up from the boring, repetitive P3 or P4 enemies.
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> - How do you want your HD, senpai?
> - Just upscale my shit up!!

Why is this acceptable?
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>>154195308
>Its just a bunch of preoccupied stats in vessels of 3D models which are pretty much worse than something out of PS2 era
Anon.
We do have the, as you say, "3d models from PS2 era" to compare. They've been made for NINE and recycled for every 3d SMT.
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>>154195920
Is this falseflagging to make the Persona fanbase look bad, or is the Persona fanbase this insufferable?
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>>154196012
What triggered you exactly? Anon have a point here, PS4 version looks like shit.
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>>154196107
I don't really care about graphics or anyone's gaming platform of choice.

But it's obvious that you want to stir shit up.
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/smtg/ i am dadga
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>>154196204
The "just x my shit up" is common forum lingo, I think he just wanted to make a point about upscaling.
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>>154196204
>projecting this hard
I am not even this anon you was talking too.
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>>154196298
>implying you aren't the one projecting
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>>154196216
Why does he wear the helmet?
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>>154196424
>implying implications
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>>154196216
>I've been tasked with protecting the masked prisoners.
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>>154196742
That's the way Doi designed him instead of sticking to mythology. He went with the life and death theme.
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>>154198496
>sticking to mythology
is that autistic time again?
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Tell me about Dagda
Why does he wear the Triskellion?
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>>154198784
>a namefag
ask yourself, anon.
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>>154199117
It's supposed to be life and death theme. if SMT Dagda was really Dagda from Mythology, he would've rendered item shops useless with his bottomless cauldron.
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>>154198784
Nigga, you're on a chinese powerpoint fishing forum. Autism time is 24/7.
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Devil Summoner set in communist russia with a gun loving fat cat partner when
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Never played SJ, does it go full ayy lmao?
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>>154201793
Sure.
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>>154201793
what does that even means
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>>154195981
>filename
Do you even Debisama, bro?
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>>154203209
You can't expect much from a fujoshit.
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>>154202040
>fighting pillar Zelenin
>using neutral demons
I think Space Marine has to check his alignment.
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So, DDS kinda sucks. Lame ass dungeons with shit encounter rates. Should I move onto Raidou?
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Ayyy bruh, you trying to recruit a nigga? Lemme hold 5000 macca.
>Yes
Aight, cool but let me grab a Amethyst too.
>Yes

Bet! I'm Yung Thug, the Megami. We gon do this shit right!

Anyone else have any images of people wearing SMT-core clothing? This shit is fascinating.
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>>154199472
Best post ITT
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>>154206569
How far are you?

Either way you should keep playing. DDS 1 and 2 are pretty good.
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>>154206569
DDS 1 is really boring until the last 5 minutes. The OST isn't even that good.
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Is there any way to play Majin Tensei yet? Any SNES emulator translators or something?
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>>154207627
>The OST isn't even that good
You whore
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>>154207285
I'm about 20 hours in, doing the long ass teleport dungeon in the tower but holy shit, it bores me out of my mind. I grinded to get rid of everybody's weaknesses since I'm close to the end, that burnt me out, I guess.

>>154207627
Yeah, can't say I'm enjoying the OST too, sounds all too generic to me. Story started out alright so I've been pushing through but I'm not sure if it's worth it at this point.
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>>154206569
Raidou it's pure shit don't bother with that.
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>>154207746
I found it really forgettable aside from 2 or 3 themes. It's not bad but you faggots are always masturbating over it and calling it Meguro's best work.
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>>154207824
>grinding
Well there is your problem. Maybe you would enjoy the game if you didn't play it wrong.

You're close to the end man, stick it out. DDS2 is better anyways.
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>>154207859
The OST of DDS2 is much better in my opinion. But some tracks of the first one managed to stand out for me.

Of course every fan will have different favorites from Meguro's work, but I consider the DDS OST to be a remarkable work of his.
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>>154207824
You are close to the end.

At least finish the game so you have save file benefits if you decide to move on to DDS2.
And like other anon told you, you went through a horrible and unnecesary chore without a reason. The extra bosses and magatama hunts would have saved you all the time you wasted in grinding.
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>>154207824
>I grinded to get rid of everybody's weaknesses
What a fucking casual.
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>>154207991
>>154208291
I guess I'll give it a try again once I'm not intoxicated, maybe the liquor makes me bitter. Thanks, anons.

>>154208461
I'm too lazy even to change party members, anon. What do you expect?
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>>154209141
Not changing party members in DDS1 actually isn't a bad idea as long as your Serph complements the party.

Also unlocking hard mode in DDS2 from the get go thanks to the transfered files makes things worth it. It's a lot more unforgiving, it encourages you to use different party members mid-battle, and it makes many boss fights pretty thrilling.
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>>154188004
What's wrong with Persona 2 IS and EP?
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Is there an specific ending I should aim for in DeSu2, or will I be fine if I go blind and choose whatever?
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>>154209141
Not changing party members is fine in DDS1, but you absolutely have to in DDS2 because party members will leave the party and it can screw you over.
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>>154209141
Oh also, you could have just used shield skills to defend your weaknesses. You get them pretty early on.
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>>154210150
Just go blind.
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>>154210295
>having to cast shields in every turn for the final boss fight

Anon, that guy got burned out of DDS, and you are recommending him the most time consuming and excruciatingly boring way to take on the final boss.
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Translation? Or at least a brief explanation of the joke?
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>>154210545
Not for the final boss obviously. With the final boss you take that shit out in one turn so they don't get you.
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>>154210201
I see, thanks for the heads up.

>>154210295
>>154210545
Not only that, using shields requires me to pay attention and I really don't want to do that. I've been going through the series in release order past few months and DDS is the only one caused me trouble so far. It really fucks you over if you don't pay attention to weaknesses.
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>>154210427
Will I understand what's going on in the Triangulum story regardless of the ending I get?
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>>154211012
Yeah there's a recap.
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>>154210994
I actually went into that fight unprepared and hoping that elemental shields would cover up my weaknesses. But I found out that the boss has a way to fuck up with your party members, and after what was probably a 30 minute struggle I got BTFO in such an epic proportion that once I healed my asspain for the game, I retreated to do the post-game bosses, learned tons of other mantras, hunted magatamas and grinded in the areas where enemies drop incenses before going back to the tower.

Maybe I'm a big scrub and the final boss is easy if you know what you're dealing with, and know which skills you should use. But otherwise you should try to be as strong as possible to take on it.
But don't get me wrong, in hindsight this was a fun experience that made the process of moving on to DDS2 a lot more satisfying.
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>>154210994
>requires me to pay attention and I really don't want to do that
You're more of a casual than I thought anon. Maybe you should play a different series.
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>>154212201
So, I'd have to grind anyway? Goddamn, I don't mind grinding that much even though I think that it's a waste of time but I'm glad I decided to grind early on.

>>154212251
Well, I practically steamrolled through KMT, SMT 1, 2, 3 and the Persona games except Persona 4 with the same attitude. I'm not sure what that says about Megaten.
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Anything interesting on the if... stream?
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>>154213646
I had to grind because I didn't learn elemental resists because I decided to have a balanced party, the rest was me being butthurt and going out of my way so I could kick the final's boss ass.

>I'm not sure what that says about Megaten
That DDS is hardcore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiUZ-Taprow

What's wrong with these people?
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>>154215817
>he snaps and goes full edgelord

I love it.
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Which one of you guys did this?
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>>154215817
>SMT IV: Featuring Dante
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>>154216545
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
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>>154216701
What do you mean by "us"?
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>>154216926
Us
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>>154216926
us memers.
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>>154217267
Who is us?
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>>154217316
Legion
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>>154217443
The game.
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>>154216545
>gap between JP and US release of IVF is bigger than between P5 releases
>people hardly complained about it
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>smtiv golden
>awakening
>maniacs
>untold
>revelations
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You. Dig here.
>Dig.
>Dig.
>Dig.
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>>154219525
Dig.
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>>154219471
I seriously hope all of you guys cancel your preorders after this cancerous memefest.
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>>154219615
It makes me want to pre-order another copy.
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>>154219769
Hardin please go.
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>>154219613
Good.
That your grave.
[End turn]
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>walking around Carina so I can get that sexy Matador
>it's been hours
>finally come across him
>kill him and move on
>need UMA Muzzles now
>every other Enemy search is Matador
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>>154218315
Persona is much more story driven, so if course people will worry about the gap. Going to be fun spamming spoilers on /v/ once the game drops, especially if Nyarlathotep makes a return
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Persona 5 in PC, pls.

We can be a very nice people, spreading love and peace around the world.

Take this little and beatiful flower
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>>154220770
I don't want to be your friend, you're gross. Try here >>154161481
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>>154220770
>>154220414
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Do we know if there will be parts in P5 where the text will auto advance or anything like that? I'm importing but I'm not a very fast reader when it comes to Japanese.
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>>154221087
The large amount of in-engine and anime cutscenes would be your only problem, everything else seems to require presses to advance text. Maybe even those could have a Pause button like in Catherine.
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>>154221509

Do the cutscenes at least have subtitles? If I end up missing anything important I guess I could try to find the cutscenes on Youtube or Nico Nico or something.
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>>154203814
That's not pillar zelenin, you fuckwit. Its demiurge.
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>>154211012
Triangulum continues from an ending that doesn't even exist. So it doesn't matter.
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>>154224984
Triangulum arc itself shouldn't even exist.
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>>154219819
>>154219769
Hardin, can you make anal beads a preorder bonus?
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>>154225195
We really need to let them know anal beads are a hot meme so they mention them in more videos/comments.
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>>154188071
Just how many Jack Frosts are there, and can I collect them all?
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>the spider's string

>Shakyamuni is meandering around Paradise one morning, when he stops at a lotus-filled pond. Between the lilies, he can see, through the crystal-clear waters, the depths of Hell. His eyes come to rest on one sinner in particular, by the name of Kandata. Kandata was a cold-hearted criminal, but had one good deed to his name: while walking through the forest one day, he decided not to kill a spider he was about to crush with his foot. Moved by this single act of compassion, the Buddha takes the silvery thread of a spider in Paradise and lowers it down into Hell.

>Down in Hell, the myriad sinners are struggling in the Pool of Blood, in total darkness save for the light glinting off the Mountain of Spikes, and in total silence save for the sighs of the damned. Kandata, looking up by chance at the sky above the pool, sees the spider's thread descending towards him and grabs hold with all the might of a seasoned criminal. The climb from Hell to Paradise is not a short one, however, and Kandata quickly tires. Dangling from the middle of the rope, he glances downward, and sees how far he has come. Realizing that he may actually escape from Hell, he is overcome by joy and laughs giddily. His elation is short-lived, however, as he realizes that others have started climbing the thread behind him, stretching down into the murky depths below. Fearing that the thread will break from the weight of the others, he shouts that the spider's thread is his and his alone. It is at this moment that the thread breaks, and he and all the other sinners are cast back down into the Pool of Blood

>Shakyamuni witnesses this, knowing all but still with a slightly sad air. In the end, Kandata condemned himself by being concerned only with his own salvation and not that of others. But Paradise continues on as it has, and it is nearly noontime there. Thus the Buddha continues his meanderings.

now it all makes sense
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>be level 75 demon
>get killed by a group of level 20 shitters
>lose treasure
How do domains even work?
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Tetrakarn
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>>154202040
Look at the ass on that pixie
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>>154229834
Antichthon
Antichthon
Antichthon
BEYOND THE PAGE IS THE LAND OF THE ARCHIVES
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Is he our guy?
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>>154230261
Is he that Furious José guy that /v/ loves to talk about?
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>>154232441
John Hardin, Atlus USA PR Manager.
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>playing SMT5
>get into a random encounter
>don't recognize the demon, some shit new design from the new artist
>who knew you'd miss Doi someday
>what is your first attack?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11184035
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>>154232804
Sword, assuming this is the beginning of the game they usually don't throw phys reflect stuff at you that soon.
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>>154232804
just megidokalean that shit
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>>154232804
>Sword/gun
V's MC will be a cute girl that fights with her feet, screencap this.
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>>154233283
k

>>154233258
Damn I did forget megido, but now you'll never know what that demon was weak to.
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>>154232804
I buy a lvl99 pre-built hero DLC, and enable him to do auto combat.
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WE
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>>154233442
>delusional.png
It will happen, I promise, Kaneko is my cool uncle that I only see once a year for 5 minutes in Christmas.
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I know there's a lot of memes about STR but I'm playing Nocturne for the first time is either more viable than the other?
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>>154191243
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>>154236773
Physical build is the best in Nocturne. STR is king in all SMTs except IV but that game is a piece of shit anyway.
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>>154213646
>I'm not sure what that says about Megaten.
Anyone who says SMT is a hard franchise is absolutely full of shit.
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>>154237473
but it is harder than most popular jRPG franchises (FF, DQ, etc)
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>>154219869
Every fucking time. Every FUCKING TIME.

>>154220764
Eh, Persona stories are pretty shit outside of social links. The killer is a decent spoiler in P4 except if you know that in advance it changes literally nothing about the story (In fact you'll suspect him for shit he didn't do.). And the only hint you get is like 5 minutes before they quiz you.
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>>154219613
Now praise Bael-sama or get whipped 100 times.
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>>154237774
Whipped
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>>154237583
True but that's because JRPGs are a fucking awful genre usually.
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who /chaos/
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/neutral/
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/law/
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/coffhee/
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/Hee/
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/white/
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Enough.
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>>154241056
I was just about to /massacre/, you prick
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which megaten w u fuck
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>>154242154
I'd fuck Scathach in her scat hatch.
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>Move Slowly
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>4 is bad meme
Played it and beat the Neutral route. It was ____fun
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>Aim Carefully
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>>154242154
I want to say hallelujah. But in a totally honest assessment of the events, I'd probably just pick the main girl, even if she's boring. This is under the assumption that I'm not allowed to add new megamis later on. Realistically, I can obviously fuck flynn if I want boypussy, (and if I don't does he even get anyone else, or does he have to stay single?) so it would be redundant to stick myself with two boys. and she Is your childhood friend, so realistically you'd have more attachment to her than random strangers. And she's the only one who didn't directly go up against you. Getting to finally become god and bang the girl you've been attracted to for a long time forever, while having flynn to also use as a sex toy sounds like a realistically much better final outcome than some stranger you barely know, and have little reason to care about.
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>>154242154
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>>154242154
main protagonist from strange journey
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>>154242154
gabriel. i'm a chaosfag but if she appeared before me i'd go lawfag to fuck her.
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>>154242154
Is Sera for sexual?
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FUCK. My 3DS is broken. Fucking roommate kicked it right out of my hand while he was dancing. Was copy of Overclocked inside got smashed too.
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>>154245904
ebin meme, bro
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Hoy.
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>>154219471
>SMT4U
Were they baneposting in a really subtle way?
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Is papa midnite neutral?
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>>154249625
he is another bitch ass messiah
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>>154249625
Memes aside, this is one thing there should have actually been in some megaten game. A hangout place ran by a neutral character with demons and angels in it hanging out, but which is presented as a neutral ground where no fighting is allowed. With an implication that many of the demons and angels there are actually neutral in a wider sense, not wanting to fight in general.
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>>154249625
>>154250629
Where is he from?

The premise sounds interesting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IttWZfeO50Q

I think what nips think of us after seeing this.
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>>154251809
baka gaijin
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>>154251809

I like "Opps: All Demons"
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>>154251809
I still consider it as a fun video.
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>>154251809
>"Gajin? In MY Atlus?"
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>>154251809
How the fuck did this get to the main channel?
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>>154251719
The constantine movie. Its not infinitely great. But it is what it is. If you go into it realizing its a gritty version of a comic book movie, and will have an accordingly scaled plot, its fairly enjoyable. There's angels and demons and they are depicted enough like angels and demons that it can be seen in that light. We used to pretend it was better than it was before finding megaten, because we didn't really know of much else with that heaven vs hell theme at the time.
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>>154251809

Oh come on, that was a funny video.
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>>154244252
Why don't we call him Legoman or anything other than "the protagonist from strange journey"
I don't even think he gets Soldier as a title to be called by.
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>>154253961
He's already called doom guy.
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>>154252919
>We used to pretend it was better than it was before finding megaten,
speak for yourself m8, i always thought that it was dogshit
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>>154254713
We didn't mean smtg. It meant me and some people I know.
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Is it wrong that I felt more of a loss over pic related than I did for Isabeau?
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>>154254917
Not really, seeing as how the scenes of his death are more emotional in a connected way, and the scenes in IV are just atlus guilt trips^TM.
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>>154255052
I didn't feel guilt as much as dark humor when she cut her throat. Actually laughed at the noise that preceded the deed itself. I felt bad at that, though.

Besides, Cielo actually died as he lived: a true bro. I got more use out of him in both DDS games than I did for Isabeau in my entire SMT4 runs.
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>>154251809
Dante confirmed?
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>>154251809
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>>154255704
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>>154255520
Donte was confirmed
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>>154255520
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>>154255704
>>154255740

John working the marks super hard.
I love him.
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>>154253960
The internet is srs business
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>>154256083
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I want to get a new 3ds game, been thinking between DS Record Break and EO U2. Now, i like both franchises very much, but which should I get for now? Ill end up getting both anyway, but for now I just want to get one. Any ideas on which?
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>>154256215

SMT x EO never.
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>>154256215
Save up for SMT4:A
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>>154256365
you mean SMT IV: Tokyo Drift?
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>>154255740

>tfw John's first SMT was Overclocked

It feels weird to be into SMT much longer than the head of Atlus PR.
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>>154256012
John, this isn't even well hidden anymore.
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>>154256215
EO2U is exceptional, even by EO standards.

Record Break has better waifus. But not as good as TMS.

It's a tough call. I like both games. But EO2U is the sort of game I'd play again in 10 years. RB is the sort of game I'd sell in 10 years.

They're both down to about $25-ish I think at Fatlus sale prices.
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>>154256749
Yeah. Something that was apparent from watching that video is that the people in it didn't really come off like fans of the series.
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>>154257571
Oh well I figured I would just preorder SMT4A.
I remembered that I have the Gamer's Club Unlocked and a 5 dollar coupon for Best-Buy.
Pretty good if I say so myself.
All launch copies come with the badges right?
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>SMT4 : TBD
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>>154257878
GCU is better than sex.
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>>154258561
Tokyo's Big Day?
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>>154210582
What if all mainline hung out.
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>>154258641
anything is better than the amount of sex you're having, little man.
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>>154242917
Flynn is a tool not a person. Megami is not.
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>>154258641
I know. Got it back in 2015 and I have probably saved like 100 bucks already. I dont buy many physical video games, but whenever I do its through BestBuy.
Hell. I preordered Sun back when it was announced for 23 dollars because of GCU and a 5 dollar coupon.
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>>154259067
Yeah. So is satan, and look how that turned out.
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>>154259174
No one wants to fuck Satan they want to fuck halves of Satan.

You fuck both the dog Pascal and DEVIL CHILDREN every other time cause multiverse.

Satan has Lucifers rebellious attitude as well. They mention it in the artbook I recall.
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>>154225907
Samurai Frost is summoned by Raiho in Raidou Kuzunoha for attacks only.

Frost Queen is the Tsundere queen in DEVIL CHILDREN.
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I want to name my daughter after Isabeau!
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>>154259707
Just don't try to Megami her. Nips have standards monkey is for her owner and banana giver Flynn.
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>>154258561
Tokyo's Bloody Destiny
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>>154251809
Accurate portrayol of AtlusUSA.
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>>154259707
I'll name my son as Gale.

He'll be a smart kid.
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>>154251809
I suppose it makes sense. Nips noticed Apocalypse Title on Twitter awhile back.
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>>154257627

I don't know, something about weirdly dropping Spud's Adventure and "Odin didn't make the dome" seems legit.
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>>154259806
what
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>>154260285
how cute, i cant wait to murder them all for being a shit alternative
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Inanna is the mom.
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>>154259473
>Satan has Lucifers rebellious attitude as well.

The entire point of the plot is that merkabah and lucifer are the two halves of his personality. So obviously he does. Lucifer was created with that part put into him and the other part put into merkabah and both told to be angels specifically because lucifer was born to be rebellious so the fact that he would eventually rebel was more or less a given.

Satan is still identified as law in game. I assume that that means his alignment is actually a balance and is dark / law. So we're meant to see that these two extremes originally existed in one being, but not as a neutral / neutral balance. I think this actually explains a bit about the real endings. The reason massacre is ambiguous to place, despite leaning law is because it is dark law. Its not just compliance with the existing gods, or not understanding this compliance, but creating a new order willingly and of your own power. Satan can rebel with his rebellious side, but seeks to establish a superior order with his angel side.
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>>154259067
Here's something I wonder about this. Why is the plot written to end with three of you instead of just you and your chosen partner? The in game excuse about dual messiahs and "him just being there" at the ending is obviously not the reason they chose it. So why? Is it to parallel the holy trinity in christianity?
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>>154262819
Because it's SMT4:A not SMT5 so they can't write Flynn out.
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>>154263093
They don't have to. He can be in the plot, and die by the end.
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Oh its you again
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Freidyne
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Fuck this place is dead. Great job driving away most of the posters, retards.
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>>154270056
/smtg/ really is unusually dead today, yeah.
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>>154261538
She's the mom to who? What kind of Mother is she?
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When is the review for SMTIV Apocalypse coming out? Aside from ChristCentered Gamer, are there any sites that aren't retarded?
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>>154276608
>are there any sites that aren't retarded?
Honestly, no.
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>>154261538
What kind of Mother would Inanna be to the Divine Powers?
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>As the original version featured a cast of well-known anime voice actors, the localization team sought out well-known English voice actors for the dub, and took extra care with syncing the English dialogue with the original characters' lip movements.
>there are scenes in american version where characters were speaking while in fact they're completely silent in japanese one

Fuck is Atlus USA the bullshittiest localizer ever?
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>>154278291
I wonder who they got to voice the Inanna, Maitreya, Odin, and Krishna
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>>154278441
Burch, Lowenthal, Baker and Bosch.
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>>154278664
You're lying anon.
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>>154278291
That is from a DDS interview, and that dub was well done, you weebo.
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>>154282131
Brilliant.
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>>154279906
>entire phrases pulled out of the ass
>entire character turned yamaican for memes sake
>entire character turned hermaphrodite for memes sake
>'''''''''well done'''''''''
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>>154278291
Kek this is common in Atlus localizations they changed which characters said some lines on DeSu OC for no reason.
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So, what kind of baby mama drama can we expect from Inanna?
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>>154278664
Troy doesnt do weebshit like he used to. Its Matt Mercer now.
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>>154285451
Troy Baker is in an union now. It's too expensive to hire for cheapstake localizers like Atlus
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>>154275053
>>154277154
Better than Danu.
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>>154270056
I personally blame YOU.
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>>154283332
>muh memes
Call me when you have something better to argue about.
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>>154286085
How will Inanna be better than Danu? Also, source on that pic
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Walta, the land of Walter:

Three classes of people:
>Hoyhoy - supporters of the chaos alignment, full citizenship, men over 18 who have completed their samurai training
>Periohoy - supporters of the neutral alignment, do manual labor, do not have full citizenship
>Hoyots - supporters of the law alignment, slaves owned by the state

Society build around militaristic system:
>Children begin Samurai training at the age of 7, by 18 they are prepared to fight demons to survive
>Women have a good amount of freedom and power, because their men are doing Samurai duties
>Women also expected to maintain their physical health, all must have power to survive
>A woman's main job, however, is to raise children and to teach them the values of the chaos alignment
>All conflict solved through battle, the stronger one decides the result of the conflict

The perfect society?
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>>154283332
>entire character turned hermaphrodite for memes sake
Please tell me this isn't true.
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>>154287243
There is no way to be worse than replacing her son with a clone that exists solely to fit her worldview yet act like she has the moral high geound.
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Do they have a hoychan where they can shitpost?
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>>154289327
The narrative gives Danu the moral high ground because she wants to use her powers for good. Inanna getting mistreated or Dagda getting killed off and replaced with A PC clone doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
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>>154289629
>>154288973
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>>154289629
They do not need a hoychan to shitpost, they shitpost freely so long as they have the strength to fight off anyone trying to suppress them.
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>>154288973
>Women have a good amount of freedom and power, because their men are doing Samurai duties
>Women also expected to maintain their physical health, all must have power to survive
>A woman's main job, however, is to raise children and to teach them the values of the chaos alignment

Fuck off
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>>154288973
Male victor is allowed to mate with inferior males and their females.
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>>154289781
Do you have a problem with Walta culture? This is the way it is. Woman have a better life here than they do in Jonthens, women here are physically healthy so they can raise their kids and they run their own house because with the men working they do not even live in the same house. In Jonthens women have nothing.
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>>154290075
That's why I chose Isabeauland, where both men and women can do whatever they want
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So do we actually know what the stats on the different preorder armors is gonna be?

I remember getting the Amazon one last time and it fucking sucked
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>>154290176
It is called Isebes you uncultured swine.
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>>154290297
They suck in SMT4A too. Just preorder from whichever you prefer, or whichever one looks better to you, don't even consider the gameplay importance.
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>>154290297
Nips dont care they like the red/black dlc outfit that you get with gamestop.
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>The most talented will always ascend to a prestigious position despite the condition of it's birth
>Good for nothing fucks will die out of their incompetence like it's meant to be since no one gives a crap about muh feelings
>Constant competention will prevent humanity from becoming a stangnant species of NEETs
>Alien YHVH is cucking humanity so they won't abuse the system or go full demon and wipe each other from earth
Best ending on the franchise desu
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>>154289818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn3xluIRh1Y

Is this the ultimate chaos experience?
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>>154219471

>SMT4 Maniacs
>not Maniax

Never buying another ATLUS game again.
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>>154290809
why
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>>154291909
We'll be dead by the time that game comes out, friend
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>>154233283
>>154291909
Save it for once a thread at least.

And really it'll probably be a choice between gender.
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I did it, /smtg/
I talked to that cute girl in my literature class

How do I convince her to play SMT and slowly convert her info waifu material?
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>>154260386
He won't comprehend shit
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>>154292654
Persona 3. Tell her about the friends she'll make and shit. Give her P3P so she can play as a girl to get into it better, if she doesn't have a PSP or a Vita, give her a PSP as a gift with P3P. Then transition from that to SMT4. Proceed from there as feels appropriate. Don't rush into any of this of course. Try out something she recommends and then you can get her into that.
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>>154292654
Eat an icecream, then gently suck her dick and tell her that you've got some cute cosplay material.
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>>154292654
Was her name Megan Dolan?
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>>154292757
>give her a PSP

Whoa whoa, all I said was I talked to her man.
I'll just convince her to play Devil Survivor or something.

>>154292846
Yeah I'll convince her to cosplay my neutralfu.

>>154292850
No it's Mara Gidyne
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>>154293136
Used PSPs are cheap. Though DeSu isn't a bad option if she already likes SRPGs.
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>As an example of this, game director Kazuyuki Yamai said that some of the staff would be used to contemporary games featuring "sweet" female characters who "say nice things", and as a result would want to add that "sweetness" to Shin Megami Tensei IV; meanwhile, Yamai saw the series as having "bitter" content, and thought that it would not be possible to add "sweetness" to it

That's why Yamai was always so upset on Final streams? What if higher ranks from Atlus reduced him to producer because they finally understood that they need more waifushit in their products and don't need mainline like at all?
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>>154253961
>>154254046
We call him Space Marine too.
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>>154292654
Oh hey, I remember you, Gaiman.
You should ask her if she even likes video games before you do that
Then do what >>154292757 said, I bought a PSP for like $70, then sold it to a friend for $90
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>>154293285
>gifting a fucking handheld to a random acquaintance you just met like if it was candy
You're weird.
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>>154292654
don't do it anon the only time I introduced a grill to megaten she ended up pleading loyalty to YHVH
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>>154293614
I've seen the de-normaling process in action, so I think I can replicate it. I've just gotta believe.
I was hoping no one would remember me but I figured it would happen anyway.
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>>154293781
I'm assuming you either killed her or gave up your beliefs for that sweet law puss.
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>>154293680
I said not to rush into it. Dude should be dating her before he tries to change her personality and interests obviously.
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>>154293885
Now you'll be remembered as the Gaimanon

Or the guy who might bang a real life Isabaeu
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>>154294057
Bestiality is against the law.
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>>154294057
I'll warn you all that I have a god awful track record with women, so this might not go well. The last girl I tried to hit on told me she was taking a sociology class so I laughed and kinda mockingly said "sociology" under my breath, and then it turned out she was a sociology major.

What I'm saying here is prepare for me to come back sadposting in two weeks

>>154294241
You shut your mouth the monkey hair is cute.
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>>154294329
I'll have that marked on my calendar

Just hope for the best & slowly ease her in & get to know her or something. Just don't get her to sic her demons on you.
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>>154294329
behold her demons
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>>154294329
>sociology major
you didn't lose anything anon
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>>154295517
I await the moment she whips out her dick and says "most unlucky for you"

>>154296305
She was cute though
Also I'm not much better considering I'm an English major
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>>154293339
Why didnt they just write sweet demons? And tap into the demonfu market.?
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I just beat matador guys :')
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>>154297279
Nocturlel or what?
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>>154297279
Wow you beated the spanish duel skeleton man?

Congaratulatiosn :D
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>>154297279
how
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>>154292654
are you the guy with shit taste in books?
lmao
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SMT Fighting Game, make your roster (mainline only)

>4 Law Aligned
>4 Chaos Aligned
>4 Neutral Aligned
>2 Guest Characters (Persona or Atlus related)
>All MC are open from the start
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>>154299464
>fighting game
but i am not a faggot
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>>154299464
Only if it's a 2 vs 2 tag game. Character interactions and dialogue are important to me after playing the Jojo games.
>>
IM HEAVEN ABOVE OUTSIDE YOU
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Hey so same guy that just beat matador, I'm in Ikebukuro now and I wanted to warp to the amala labrynth and the game freezes during the small cutscene after warping there everytime. Emulating btw. Any ideas?
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>>154299464
Fuck your rules, but:

>Law Aligned
Gabriel, Remiel, Uriel and Michael
>Chaos Aligned
Lilith, Beelzebub (human) with his fly form as a super
>Neutral AlignedJack Frost and Pixie
>Guest Characters (Persona or Atlus related)
Raidou

Lucifer and Metatron are unlockable pseudo-boss characters, the true boss is encountered if you ace the arcade mode.
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>>154301080
Solved it, I switched to software rendering and that fixed the issue
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>>154301259
Well done.

Keep enjoying the game.
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18 DAYS TO GO YOU NIGS
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Why are brand new copies of the PS2 era games so inexpensive? I'm about to get Raidou Nocturne for $34
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>>154302654
Apparently they got reprinted.

So you should make sure to grab them all while you can!
>>
Will penis discussion revive this general?
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>>154303056
OG Persona 3 and The Jack Frost Raidou 2 are about all I'm lacking. I'm just impressed I guess. Reprints without ugly boxes are unheard of to me.
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>>154303372
Ha, you mean the "Greatest Hits" kind of boxes?
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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>>154303264
>Fall for Naga on my team
>She's extraordinarily austere and confrontational despite requiring little coercion to join my team
>Bond over drinks at Nyx's lounge
>Refuses to be dismissed
>Refuses to sleep without wrapping me in her tight scaley embrace
>Item Finds shit constantly to impress me with
>Initiates all sex and allows me to drain her energy for foreplay
>Evolves into Raja Naga during last night's escapades
>As he constricts me lovingly as though nothing changed I still feel disgusted
>Hate his voice and greater confidence but the easy access to sex and gems makes it hard for me to consider dismissing or fusing him
>Is vehemently interested in Chiaki's speeches
Am I still clean in YHVH's eyes despite these interspecies homosexual sins? I feel so close to this demon but i Also plan on being the mouthpiece of god...

Also, can anyone here identify these genital bumps?
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>>154304195
>he fell for the prevo meme
I'm still having hot sex with Sati. The question came once, but we decided to do it when things will settle down a bit.
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>>154304195
>not just fuggin and angel
>>
>go to FUCKING GAMESTOP
>preorder final
>get poster
>get emblems
>go to another
>"i changed my mind, i made a mistake buying this, i don't actually like persona"
>get refund
>keep emblems
>keep poster
>pirate digital copy
Would this advanced jewery work?
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>>154288973
Walta

>>154290075
Jonthens

>>154290332
Isebes

You're not clever because you can google greek city states. Sparta, Athens, Thebes, and the last one has nothing to do with Isabeau or neutrality.
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>>154307873
You have to open the box to get the emblems and at that point isn't the game used so you don't get full price back?
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>>154308182
FUCKING GAMESTOP.
They gave me FE keychains seperately when I went to buy Fates once, so I figured it'd be the same. Not that I'm /feg/ scum.
Would the poster be fine? Its better than the medals.
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>>154308368
Yeah they're supposed to give you the poster before the game comes out. Other people have already gotten them.
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>come back to SMTIV after a couple months
>was stuck on Minotaur
>grind for an hour on encounters that give 1/100th of a level, gain ONE
>gives me 8 fucking HP
>decide to go in and try my luck
>double buff my defense and attack
>WAR CRY
>WAR CRY, buffs negated
>LABRYS STRIKE
>3 CRITICALS, 90 90 90, flynn is dead
>MINOTAUR SMIRKS
>LABRYS STRIKE
>3 CRITICALS, 90 90 90, only demon left has 10 HP
>ON THE SECOND FUCKING TURN

so, no one's ever gotten past this boss, right? it's all memery, right?
cannot even begin to describe this bullshit
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>>154309657
Get bufu on everyone and don't bother with buffs, just pray you end up your turn with someone smirking.
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>>154309657
Just fucking hit his weakness (ice I think it was) with those that can, buff with those that can't. You might get unlucky and he'll get crits and wipe the team, but just load the save and go again. Battles are short in SMT4 so it isn't that big of a deal to die.
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What's your powerlevel anon?
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Did Apocalypse separage Physical and Gun skills (i.e. Gun skills run on Dex, Phys skills run on Str). Want to do a Str run once the game comes out
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>>154309657
Nigger, you have apsaras and knockers like two rooms before. Fuse yourself a spriggan with bufu, it resists phys. Then just spam bufu with everyone. Smirks should protect you from labrys and eat turns, while giving you double damage.
Learn to fuse useful mons.
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>>154309657
That's why samurai have limited access to Naraku.
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>>154309968
I've beaten 3 versions of Wizardry 1.
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>>154310020
Yes.
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>>154309968
I beat Sans and finished Dark Souls 2
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>>154309968
I have beaten WIzardy IV and collected all the weapons in drakengard without a guide
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>>154311836
>collected all the weapons in drakengard without a guide
Bullshit.
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>>154309657
>I grinded for an hour

>I wasted an hour instead of thinking of a new strategy or recruiting new demons or fusing new demons with the skills I needed

The only bullshit element of the fight is getting Walter.
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Can you hear it?

The sounds of flames, winds howling and an explosion going off in the distance?
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>>154311836
>all the weapons in drakengard without a guide
Caim be praised! You mean you beat that vile mobile game?
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>>154312415
The song I was listening to went "Can you feel it" right when I read that, I got confused for a second. I thought Phil Collins was shitposting.
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>>154311836
I don't believe it.
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Iku yo!
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>[Demon] is attempting to change a skill
>AGIDYNE BECAME MARAGIDYNE
Aternatively...
>SAMERACARM BECAME MAMUDO
I'm not a gambling man but sometimes I take my losses.
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>>154315782
>Pixie is attempting to change dia.
>Allow it?

Always say yes. Getting media early is the best fucking feeling in Nocturne. And if you fuck it up you can just fuse her and go recruit another Pixie.
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Oh, look who it is.
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>>154317229
is that davie bowie
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>>154317229
Hello mister Cypher.
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>>154309657
SMT4 is more about random chance than skill, I'm sorry to say. Just keep fighting Minotaur with as much ice as you can until you nail it. You should have at least three people flinging snowballs and if you don't, that is literally the only factor where it is your fault you lost. Everything else is random.

Don't fall for the meme that this is some hardcore Dark Souls shit. It's just shit.

If you keep at it, he will use patterns that involve less crit spam. Combine that with 6-8 actions from ice spam, provided you don't get an unlucky miss, and you'll eventually come out ahead.

Alternately, die twice and drop the game to easy. No shame, it's a shit boss.
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>enemy spawns directly on top of me
>The enemy attacks first!
>Tarukaja
>Tarukaja
>Critical Wave
>Smirk
>Critical Wave
>Oh, it's you. You died carelessly again
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>>154258757
Stay mad nigger.

>>154259093
Oh I don't even pretend for a second GCU saves me money. It just means I'm making impulse buys on release or preorders at MSRP minus GCU bonus rather than waiting for sales and digging through the backlog.
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>>154276837
....

Most of those are accurate criticisms though.
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>>154318079
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>>154317890
that fucking feel.

>Charon could you res me in a good RPG instead like Etrian Odyssey?
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>>154258705
But what are they saying? Why does Jonathan get so excited and then disappointed while the other law heroes hold up signs that say something?
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>>154318381
It is Pokemon-esque. The plot is weak. The characters are uninteresting. Demons will laugh at you, call you names, and kill you. The world map is trash.

The rest are memes of course.
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>>154283332
>entire character turned yamaican for memes sake
What does this mean?
>entire character turned hermaphrodite for memes sake
That's bullshit for Angel and Seraph.
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I got an idea.

What if we talk about the games we like?
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>>154319612
I would, but it would probably trigger 99% of the other anons.

I fucking love SMT IV, DeSu OC and DDS. Although I also have an unconditional love for Nocturne and SMT I's atmosphere.
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>>154319612
Fuck you, no.

There's not a lot to talk about. I like Persona 4, DeSu 1 and 2. Soul Hackers. TMS#FE
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>>154319612
but I'm the only person in this general that likes DeSu 2
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>>154320181
Your taste is fucking good.

>>154320474
You are potentially cancer.
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>>154320713
mad
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>>154319612
The DDS games are fun, especially the second one. I love them.

The overall sense of dread you feel once all the reasons and avatars are revealed in Nocturne makes for phenomenal atmosphere. I like the 4 party system most.

Raidou is worth looking at but the sequel makes the first unplayable. I don't like the soundtrack of either much.


I wish I was as smart as Atlus and found a way to successfully use the same demon models for seven games.
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>>154320876
>I wish I was as smart as Atlus and found a way to successfully use the same demon models for seven games.
They managed to get away with it because they were all in the same console/generation and they were niche games at the time.
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>>154320612
I am playing it right now, and after being 3 hours in I'm loving it so far .
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>>154320876
DDS2 holds a special place in my heart.

And holy shit, this song is so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCuOjfyUHnA
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>>154321582
Not him, but the gameplay is really good. The game is hard, there's a wide variety of demons, demon skills and upgrades are awesome and great way to make them more unique from each other. The plot itself is pretty good too but the damn writing, pacing and insufferable characters are beyond terrible.

>>154321842
I honestly think I'm the only one who prefers the regular battle theme from DDS1. Boss themes are better in DDS2 though.
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>>154319612
SMT I and Nocturne are okay I guess.
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>>154317890
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>>154321959
but the pacing is better than the original DeSu and it's 3 days of nothing I like DeSu 1 but replaying the first days it's terrible. The characters are better than the ones from the original game well
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What the hell did Hijiri do that was so unforgivable? Poor bastard
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>>154323149
Sorry, I simply cannot agree with anything at all of what you said. DeSu's characters are already near walking anime tropes but DeSu 2's characters are literal anime tropes. I would honestly prefer to have 12 Midoris than the 12 characters that are in DeSu 2.
And the pacing in DeSu wasn't good, it was passable, serviceable. DeSu 2 pads out the story with, again, typical "comedic" anime scenes and completely ruins any sense of urgency thanks to that and the fact that you're living out in a military base. And it's not like DeSu doesn't have anime tropes and scenes, but they're very far between and largely less apparent than in DeSu 2.
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>>154323659
Kill YHVH
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>>154323768
Holy fuck that picture.

I can't wait to see it in two years and be confused who those people are.
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>>154323659
Betray Demi-Fiend. Fuck him.
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I want nemissa to take my cyber virginity!
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how did i do
i think i broke my build a buddy
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>>154326379
clean that shit you animal
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>>154326379
>only 100 Ag
shitter

Also how do you unlock mustache Flynn?
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>>154326572
Only in Mexico. Unlocked after creating homemade cocaine and sending it up north.
>>154326502
Clean yours faggot.
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>>154326572
You gotta fight kool-aid man to get it.
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>>154326816
>>154326572
Only works for digital copies. You need Strange Journey in the card slot.
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>>154327203
>not using the image with the password
Here, now you too can have your own kool-aid man!
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>>154327609
Wait is that real? http://eirikrjs.tumblr.com/post/81388942316/youve-probably-heard-it-by-now-but-an-amazing makes it seem real.
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>>154330705
Yeah he's a pretty solid demon.
Carried me through the neutral route.
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SMT set in mexico when
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How can I become a Hoy boy?
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>>154332408
>¡Un más dios rechazado!
I'd play it. Shit like the cucuy and the drowning woman use to freak me out when I was younger.
Fuck, I want to make a mariachi cover of the boss theme from Nocturne now...
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>>154321959
>insufferable characters
What. Every dude is a cool dude and every girl is best girl.

You play it dubbed or something?
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MACCA OPENS ALL DOORS
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>>154333475
You embrace the smug chaos allignment.
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>>154206661
Made me snigger
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What is /smtg/'s reccomended NES emulator?
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>>154341926
cant you run nes emulation on almost anything?
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>>154341926
Forgot to say for android.

>>154342314
I just thought there might be some issues.
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How hard is Apocalypse going to bomb?
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>>154343034
Depends on how many nukes are deployed.
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>>154340558
I want a version of this with the Spookies logo that says "Haha! HACK YOU!"
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>>154342314
A hacked Wii is the greatest virtual console
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Anyone finds it weird that Danu is presented as a heroine despite doing pretty morally questionable things like mistreating a goddess, and killing off her own son to replace him with a new one?
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>>154346169
THATS HOT
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So, what are Polythestic Alliance do when they are not plotting to kill god? Do they meet every week at the Tokyo Dome to discuss how to recruit new members?
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>>154347094
they probably take turns to fuck krishna boiputci until it is covered in shit, semen and blood
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I want to fuck Vivian.
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>>154347094
Odin just awakened.

Krishna and Pepe Buddha were probably busy regaining their power and plotting the core concepts of their alliance.
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>>154348702
I feel that the developers missed an opportunity to expand on the Polytheistic Alliance, like Miroku offering free Dharma lessons at the park every Saturday, Odin standing on the streets trying to recruit hunters to prepare for Ragnarok and handing out Pamphlets about Valhalla while working as a Toku star.
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>>154348553
Me too
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>>154348553
I wanna fuck Inanna and dominate her.
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he would have saved her the way he's going save Atlus from becoming irrelevant
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>>154352370
are you on drungs nig
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Hoy.
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Is he law, neutral, or chaos?
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>>154357406
Lawful Neutral.
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>>154357406
cunt, so law
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How important is Luck in SMTIV?
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>>154357406
Dark Law.
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>>154358032
At 999 every attack crits.

>>154348702
Krishna was locked away in the ark and guarded by angels, demons, and Japanese Gods.
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>>154357406
law
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Grydine
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>>154336607
>implying bad character and writing is linked to terrible dubbed version
And no, I played the DS version first.
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>>154358032
Very, if you go full Mudo/Hama/Ailment build. I tried it once and it was fun as fuck.
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>>154191243
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>>154349903
Apparently they had more they took out. There was originally supposed to be mroe infighting between them talking about their different ways of sharing, but then they took that out.
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Quick question about Apocalypse. Did they end up implementing those Legion skills? Based on demon hordes or something, that was cut out from IV?
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You fuckers better start posting real fucking soon.
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>>154371440
Why is Chaos Flynn so moe?

>>154368216
If this was because of the lack of moe, then they should've used Inanna going arara and include Cleopatra in the main game to fill the sweet sounding role along with Amaterasu as the moe character. I'm surprised that no one in the development thought of using demon girls to fulfill their moe quota in Final.
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>>154371806
Because chaos is the cutest alignment. Strength is moe.
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>>154232804
Well, I often get the weakness right just by looking at the design

>flying enemy/birdlike
>use Zan

>demon is a muscular big guy
>use Zio or Bufu
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>yaso-magatsuhi in smt4

what the fuck

was he claymated or what
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>>154373438
YASO-MAGATSUHI!
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>>154373285
>bird enemy
>zan
You fucked up. And I added the part about "the shit artist" to try to make an excuse why you can't just assume something about the design. But yeah, I do the same thing, I just wanted a blank slate for the poll. I was interested if more people would use sword or gun to avoid spending MP, or if they would use one of the magic attacks to try to find out its weaknesses. Now I know.
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>>154378117
That's a cute Jack Frost.
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Would you a Lilith?
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>>154380719
Yes.
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>>154380719
>man fucking a snake
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>>154381509
What about this lilith?
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>>154382321
A more enthusiastic "Yes." than the last.
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>>154382321
Most definitely.
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>>154380719
Human lilith a cute.
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>>154382506
>>154382540
We all know this Lilith is the best though.
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>>154382948
Oh shit, I fucked up.
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>>154383065
I'd still fuck her.
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>>154382948
Yes, that one is the best.

How does she look in SMT4F btw?
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>>154383550
She doesn't appear at all. Flynn went with Jonathan and killed her.
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>>154384035
What, she doesn't revive? She said she would revive!

Also, so do we get what decisions Flynn made? Like we know for sure he went with Jonathan to kill Lilith? Then he must have made a bunch of other chaotic choices to balance that back out then?
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>>154384413
We don't know all his choices, but you see a scene in a TV. It shows Flynn and Jonathan looking at Walter as he activates the Yamato reactor. That only happens if you side with Jonathan to kill Lilith. If you side with Walter Flynn presses the button himself, so that couldn't have happened.
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>>154384413
Siding with Yuriko is the extravagant outcome. It not only is it directly against Samurai official orders, it is choosing a demon while most likely sacrificing a fellow Samurai and probably leading to Ashura-kai invading surface while they try to keep Naraku under wraps and Casualry being on edge.
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>>154380719
Certainly.
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>>154385019
Cool, didn't know we got to see how that scene canonically played out. Thanks.

>>154385323
Yeah that is a good point. Makes the most sense for Flynn to choose that. Just interesting that in order for him to be neutral now he'll have to choose a bunch of chaos answers. Like maybe during Lilith's quiz he chose a lot of the chaos answers like putting someone out of their misery or preferring progress over tradition. Either that or he was just an asshole when he had the opportunity, like maybe killing the people in the tournament if he did that before the alignment lock.

I like the Flynn we ended up with, he is an interesting guy.
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Hoy.
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hello
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>>154391315
Whose hand is that?
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Eridanus can suck my DICK
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>>154393453
No it can't. Don't spread lies. Eridanus is not able to suck your dick.
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Is DDS the only hard MegaTen game?
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>>154394019
No. DDS is easy.
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>>154394019
DDS is average. Its hard only if you don't know what you're doing.
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>>154393962
Eridanus can (it actually can't but I'm using this phrase metaphorically) go FUCK itself.
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>>154394121
>>154394284
Okay, let me rephrase that. Is DDS the hardest MegaTen game? I've never been killed by a random encounter before in a MegaTen game.
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>>154394284
How and when do you learn what you're doing?
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>>154394583
Never? Random encounters in any game can get you if you're unlucky. An unlucky hama/mudo in Nocturne, getting surprised in SMT4 and not getting the first hit, running into a bunch of enemies while alone in Kongokai in SMT1, etc. Most random battles go fine, but you can always be surprised. I don't feel like DDS is special in any way there.

The only other difficulty would come from exploring the dungeons (or whatever areas a game has) and boss battles. DDS is pretty easy in both these categories, the dungeons were pretty straight forward for the most part, no puzzles to difficult (did DDS even have a teleport maze? I remember DDS2 does, but does DDS1?). And the bosses are all pretty easy because you can set whatever skills you want on your party and kick anything's ass on the second try if you didn't prepare well enough the first time around.

For me the hardest game is Devil Survivor, but that is just because it is an SRPG. I'm sure someone who sucks at any game that requires real time reactions would say the Raidou games are the hardest. But even among the normal JRPG games, I feel like DDS is one of the easier games. I'd say Nocturne and SJ are harder than it for sure, but DDS is still harder than SMT4. What other games have you played that you consider easier?
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>>154395873
I guess I've been lucky in other games. I haven't played the DeSu games yet, but I played all the others and I don't remember a time getting killed by random encounters. In DDS1 I got killed numerous times by random encounters, miss exploiting a weakness and you're dead. Hell, I think Samael got me twice in a row by casting Bloodbath and shitting out crits. Maybe I am not paying enough attention but DDS is the only MegaTen game I got my ass kicked so far.

And, yes, there's a long ass teleport dungeon in DDS1, the last dungeon. It's long but it's not that confusing.
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In DDS, do better hunt skills get more AP, or do I have to get stuff like Atma Bonus to get more AP. I'm kinda stumped about it
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>>154397084
Cute designs

>>154397546
Why not both
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>>154397546
Better hunt skills just do more damage, I think. Try to get skills like atma bonus and ap divide as soon as you can.
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>>154397084
This is okay, but no actual SMT on Android.

Why? iOS gets it. SO WHY.
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>>154393363
Not yours.
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>>154397760
SMT4F waifus are already cute.
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>>154398609
:(
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>>154398158
>look up what this is >>154397084
>see pic related

Literally the SMT of phone games.
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>>154397084
>no Nanashi
Wat, why?
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>>154401723
iOS has that too so it's still unfair.
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I'm going to study hard and make Tokyo great!
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I have just ordered Devil Survivor 2. What should I expect
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>>154406279
a game in the mail.
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>>154406279
Evangelion with social links a bit of Nocturne sprinkled on it as well
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Let's go, Flynn!
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>>154410939
Right, we'll deal with this quickly~
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Hoy.
>>
WE'LL
>>
SACRIFICE
>>
WALTER
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Any ideas on who is voicing the cast of SMT Apocalypse? Nozomi and Navarre sounds different.
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>>154416967
Ashly Burch and interns.
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>>154417025
Any source? Adramelech and Inanna sound familiar, but can't put my finger on where because of the distorted effect on their voices based on the demon video for SMTA.
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>SMT4A sells millions on power of waifus alone
>"Who's your SMTfu?" threads spring up all over /v/ with Nemissafags fighting Inannafags fighting Lilithfags
>SMT5 arrives, with law waifu, neutral waifu, and chaos waifu deciding the routes
>People grow bored with Persona's social link gameplay and just want dungeons and waifus of mainline SMT
Waifu SMT is the future of Persona
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>>154417726
Does Inanna really have fans?
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>>154417726
>SMT5 arrives, with law waifu, neutral waifu, and chaos waifu deciding the routes
Thats smt1. Try not to feel too bad.
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>>154417726
That's actually not a bad future.

The only losing side would be the edgelordfags who get off the idea of killing their friends and tipping their fedora while acting all stoic.
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>>154418662
I dunno about you but I think that sounds equally as terrifying as the post you replied to.
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>>154417726
>SMT5 arrives, with law waifu, neutral waifu, and chaos waifu deciding the routes

This is what I've always wanted.

>>154417873
Have you not seen the Inannafag constantly posting about her in here?
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>>154417726
Why hasn't Atlus done S.Links with demons like Inamna, Lilith, or Scatach?
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>>154418662
>>154417726
Killing everyone's cute waifus for not agreeing with me sounds great desu

Where do I sign up?
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>>154418878
S. Links are shit.
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>>154417928
Why do I get the impression that many mainline fans started at ST and Nocturne, then worked their way back to SMT 1 and 2?
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>>154419869
Because that's what they did.

But honestly they wouldn't know better unless they were born in Japan or were hardcore RPG fans to begin with.
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>>154419869
I started with Persona 3.
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Nocturne's neutral ending put you on a wild ass, dangerous quest that ends in you reaffirming the status quo just because your teacher was sad. The other endings are shit too but your influence meant something, damn.
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>>154364356
How did you get past bosses?
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>>154421274
Probably through free crits, smirks and a well built party.
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>>154421274
>get back to /smtg/
>latest post is a reply to my post
kek
Basically I relied solely on my demons for bosses and since I had Kaja spells and Media magic to support and heal. Random encounters were easy as fuck because I was going with 4 or 3 in Luck and 1 or 2 on Agility.
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When are we going to get a mainline game where the law fag used to be a drug addict, or a delinquent until he discovered Christmas and now live a happy life.
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>>154421636
Improved it a bit
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>>154422013
fucking hell, I'm too tired for this
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>>154421605
I just started a NG+ run in IV, this makes me want to try the same.
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>>154421636
that is whats going to happen to that gaiman dude
lmao
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>>154422467
>thanks for the PSP and those 3DS games. Ok bye!!
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Would you guys become a demon if given the choice?
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>>154422375
Do it. It's something different at least. Reminder that at the beginning you'll be doing squat until you start learning some skills. Honestly though, fusing was a lot more fun since you didn't have to worry about passing around healing spells and whatnot since Flynn has them plus Hama and Mudo. And he doesn't even need Hama/Mudo boost like the demons thanks to the crazy Luck you'll have.
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>>154422942
Only if someone fuses me into a cute demon!
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>>154422942
Do I get to impregnate cute demon grills?
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>>154423143
Demon girls tend to act realistic. You'd have to be very good at fooling them.
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>>154422942
Only if I become a angel
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>>154422942
Only if I can avoid being fused and don't have to eat magatama
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>>154423354
Well would I be powerful enough to rape the demonfu?
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>>154423479
A low to mid level demon sure, but anything higher will kill you.
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>>154424417
That's fine. I've always wanted the pixie booty.
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>>154422942
I'd rather be a demon summoner. If I could he a half demon like Demi-Fiend I'd be down. And if I don't have a demon summoning program, I guess being a demon would be the best option.
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Am I going crazy or did the color change in the Cathedral of Shadows in IV?
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>>154424935
Wasn't the colour pallette always black and purple?
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>>154424845
You still have to deal with Danu, who won't let demons use her pixie as an onahole.
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>>154425278
>Not going the NTR route
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I'm never being social again. They're playing the fucking Cha-cha slide at this party. Isamu was right
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>>154426092
Parties are shit if you don't fully prepare to do one or both of the following:
>get drunk
>find an easy fuck

Otherwise never fall for the party meme.
>tfw I get to spend my saturday night shitposting in /smtg/ and playing real 女神転生 games in the comfort of my room, all while anon has to get bored at a party
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>>154422942
if i turn into a demon i lose my power of observation( great will gave us this power) and need humans to observe me. That is a stupid reason to become a demon as i would need humans to live.
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>>154422942
just if i can be a giant scholng
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>>154425456
The closest thing that to NTR that a demon would get is Scathach wrapping her thighs around your neck, applying pressure to it while she makes out with Cu Chulainn.
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>>154429045
>Scathach wrapping her thighs around your neck
But that's what I want anon. I don't care about the circumstances.
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>>154430009
You will most likely have to comfort a grossly sobbing Anat, or Hathor who wonders aloud why no one has picked her as Demonfu, and why are they losing to titty monsters.
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>>154430643
Besides Pixie, Hathor is actually my demonfu.
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>>154431131
Hope you like her bitchy friend Cleopatra.
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How much free will did Lucifer have in Final? If God controlled both law and chaos factions, then was Satan turning on him all part of his plan?
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>>154431362
I'll just use my faceless bald friends.
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>>154431632
Can your faceless friends deal with that accursed Inanna?
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>>154432390
That's the next step.We'll let you know when that happens.
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How would you balance a Megaten game if your main character could learn Dragon's Eye around level 40?
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>>154432847
Every single lvl 40+ demon would also know Dragon's Eye. Imagine the asshurt that would come from casuals.
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>>154432847
After using Dragon's Eye, you lose all of your turns if you don't exploit a weakness.
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>>154432847
Every encounter has six enemies
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>>154432847

>>154433138
MIxed with
>>154433597
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>>154432770
How do you plan to do it? She literally has monster tier sex drive.
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Post Cafe Florida songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZscuJCOoIPc
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>>154434243
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZscuJCOoIPc
Hearing this song made me realize that IV had a lot of good ideas and concepts, but they were terribly executed because the guest artists were retarded as fuck.
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>>154385019
Yeah. Even the game realized that no neutral character would have sided with walter there.
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>>154326295
fuck you
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>>154416967
Also, does anyone else think nozomi was better in IV? Her art in Iv looked sleek and cool. she has on a cool jumpsuit and looks ready for business. In IVA her retarded glasses are simply too ridiculous to ignore. They should have made her a literal version of her Iv character.
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>>154421212
>neutral is shit, but tries to make doing nothing look good by making the sides seem crazy.

What an amazing revelation you uncovered.
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>>154435167
What's wrong with Final/Apocalypse's interpretation of Nozomi? I haven't heard much of her, aside that she fill the big sis role of the group.
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>>154434386
Good song, it reminds me of this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZscuJCOoIPc

Seriously though, some characters and locations had lots of potential, but they get kinda dropped and forgotten instantly, like how they introduce Cafe Florida, but it is never relevant again until the end of the neutral route where you must guess that you have to go there to get the ending.
I feel that they did this to play things safe and to don't anger the old SMT fans who got mad over Nocturne because it was too different. But in the end failed anyways due to gameplay decisions which were probably made to bring in a new audience.

I guess that in way this is the reason why they created Final/Apocalypse. Because what started as a simple special edition of SMT IV grew to be its own thing and expanded the game's world.
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>>154435441
Her art looks ugly as balls.
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>>154436212
I like it
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>>154436350
>Those ridiculous glasses
>those plucked and drawn on eyebrows.
>that retarded smirk
>that non matching brown cape

Literally garbage.
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>>154436350
She would look better without the glasses. Doi is a hack, ruining an okay design with such a stupid detail.
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>>154436212
I was talking about Nozomi's role in the game. Despite being the representative for Bonds, she rarely gets talked about. Danu usually handles the heavy stuff while Nozomi is just there.
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>>154436350
Is she...wearing a belt underneath her hotpants?
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>>154436684
No, I think the belt is supposed to be for whatever lacy black underwear she's wearing under those hot pants and connected to the garters on her stockings.
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>>154436553
One more thing. Who the fuck legitimately thinks lipstick woudl still be in use this long after the apocalypse by someone who actively is a warrior. Fuck, there's so much that got ruined with her originally good design. It seems like they tried too hard to make her both "womanly" in some way no one but retarded frat bros who don't even play megaten like, but also give her glasses that no one on earth likes but they tried to use to copy gurenn lagann.
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Repeat after me "It's okay when Kaneko does it"
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>>154436518
>>154436551
>not liking Kamina glasses
You all have some shitty taste.
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>>154436964
She probably dress that way to negotiate with several demons, angels, and gods to not attack the fairies.
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>>154437027
Nozomi's aren't nearly as big, pointy and the color is just gross looking. Those abominations are not Kamina glasses.
>>154436986
What's wrong with Aleph? His redesign goggle is pretty ridiculous but it still looks fine.
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>>154436986
It's okay when Kaneko does it.

SMT gals never wore make-up or were designed with sex appeal in mind. It's only SMT IV and Doi who came to ruin our precious franchise.
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>>154437445
Looking at this pic made me realize that Nozomi is IV's Hiroko. Shame Final didn't go all the way with it.
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>>154431631
Satan turning on him wasn't his plan. Lucifer and merkabah were independently sentient. Technically they could have done anything they wanted. But since it was a ruse all from the beginning, satan split himself in a way where lucifer had his rebellious side, and so literally personality was was guaranteed to rebel. As far as I know, satan isn't even independently sentient while they are split. Or at best in some super vague way.

YHVH didn't need to manipulate them to too insane a degree, since part of the plot is the fact that they realistically were unlikely to find a way to turn on him rather than eachother in the immediate sense anyways. And they don't need to be balanced enough to be at a stalemate forever, since yhvh just revives the losing side after awhile. All he has to do is make sure he erases their memories so that they don't realize its been going on indefinitely, and think they're really on the verge of just permanently getting rid of the other side.

The game tells you what made satan rebel though. Satan says that originally all his actions were just to serve yhvh. (I forget why). But he had some doubts that yhvh had a real plan and wasn't just dicking around. Ironically, I think when he was split he didn't have the power to think on it more since his parts were busy fighting. But in bonds he tells you that fusing with walter and johnathan gave him a human context of understanding, which helped him decide for good that yhvh was shit after all. In massacre he tells you you are chosen by the great will. And that alone made him decide you'd be better. But either way he tests you to make sure.
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>>154431631
Interestingly, if their world is the future of our world it seems that yhvh doesn't restart the fight again right away. Does he wait several thousand years in between each apocalypse? If so, then even if you were trapped it would obviously matter a great deal what you did in the meantime, and what side you picked. Some people act like the other side would be revived like a week later. But if yhvh was in control all along, it seems like he leaves the world be for a few thousand years after each time. So needing to kill him is really mostly only about preventing another apocalypse a long time in the future from them. I wonder why he waits to long, other than the fact that this plot element was came up with after Iv was set in stone. Is it just because if it was recently enough that anyone could potentially have living memory of it they would catch on faster that its his fault all along?
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>>154437445
>SMT gals never wore make-up
>posted that picture
Get out of your basement, they look like girls with cake for faces.. Those girls look like they caked their skin in that white powder, put eyeliner and mascara on, trimmed the eyebrows, and maybe some lipstick.
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>>154437796
Not sure why, but the whole thing sounds underwhelming.
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>>154438008
work on your text interpretation skills before telling others to go outside you autistic fuck.
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>>154433948
>>She literally has monster tier sex drive
>Implying we don't.
The goal is no sex for a month, then rape her.
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>>154438243
I know what you said.
I'm still not wrong.
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>>154438008
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>>154437965
Probably, Krishna and Dagda were already plotting to kill him. The last thing YHVH needs are more acts of rebellion. I still feel that Final's YHVH was weak in comparison to DeSu's interpretation of God.
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>>154438023
Honestly, I think the plot sounds uber interesting. Good enough that it might end up one of the best games. Especially since the plot starts close to the beginning, unlike IV, and SJ where the entire plot was the last 20% of the game. And they actually mix things up for once.

Like sure, trying to spin the entire first game as basically a trick kind of heavily sketchily comes off odd in terms of coherent themes. Especially since "hue yhvh controlled all the sides" kind of nullifies or insults the point of the choice. But the plot itself taken on its own actually comes off pretty interesting.
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>>154436350
HOT
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>>154419470
>implying you'll get to kill the waifus
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>>154438259
You trying to get us killed anon, the last thing Tokyo needs is to be destroyed by a sexually berserk mother goddess in heat from lack of sex.
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>>154436964
Because she's a woman, and even post-apocalyptic woman warriors want to look cute.

And if you think even for a second this is a realistic apocalypse in any sense you're fucking retarded.
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>>154431362
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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did the anon looking for the raws of Prayers managed to find them? I'm curious if they also implemented things from this manga on Final like they did to the meme man's manga.
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>>154438587
I mean, to be fair there's a reason for that. Desu's comes off like a fairly reasonable guy with some heavy handed tactics who has a nuanced relation to the world. In fact, desu is the only game that implied directly the existence of yhvh by name without him being an unambiguous villain. So there he was an actual character one can have a nuanced relation to. Even when going against him, you got the idea that even naoya treated him kind of like a father figure, but one who went too far and you need to get rid of, while still being emotionally attached to, even if in a hateful way.

In apocalypse there's little about him other than token villain who exists to be evil. The entire dynamic about the sides and their relation to eachother was less even about yhvh, but more about the dynamic, how humans related to it, and merkabah and lucifer themselves in a way. The only real backstory he had is that he used to be well intentioned, but gave up on that long ago.
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>>154439418
To be perfectly fair, anyone in YHVH's position would've given up around Exodus or Leviticus.
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>>154438587
Final kind of implies that YHVH does it because he's bored from his loneliness, rather than not wanting to be caught he doesn't restart it right away because watching the outcome of it it's how he entertains himself. Like most of SMT IV it's a throw back to earlier games and how on SMT II YHVH gives Lucifer the kuzuryu meanwhile never sending the Messiah to the kingdom build by the messians to the point it drives the angels to insanity
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>>154373438
Yes actually.
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Which megaten outfits get the approval of the /smtg/ /fa/shion police?

Hard Mode: no dumb marines.
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>>154441751
Lego outfit.
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>>154441751
Someone posted this on /fa/ the other day asking w2c. it was me btw
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>>154442160
And what happened?
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>>154422467
>>154422651

C'mon guys, let's give him a shot at it.
Then laugh at his weakest
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>>154436350
While I'm fine with her new design, I do agree with people that her older design was better. It fit for this random demon hunter who had nothing all that special about her. The new one stands out as something unique, but I guess that can be excused when she became the leader of the fairies of whatever. Maybe she decided to stand out more to show off her new status.
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>>154441751
This guy.

I also love the Gekkoukan High uniforms from P3.
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>>154443376
Can I just say that all of the SMT1 designs were amazing? They all perfectly fit the style and tone of the game, and the series in general. They really nailed it with this, I don't think that any other game in the series has topped it.
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>>154443176
She decided to stand out by buying the ugliest glasses literally every made. Her design is so bad its like lucifer and medusa. Something that takes you out of the game due to ridiculousness.
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>>154443723
>mad max rip off are designs
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>>154443950
>Implying that SMT1 was the only game to do so
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>>154444182
>implying that my balls aren't as big as this room.
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>>154444617
>Implying I'm not Mara
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>>154444769
>literally. Lick my balls.
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>>154444839
>Worship my phallia plebian.
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>>154442725
>imblying anyone on /fa/ knows where to cop anything as sick as the designs for smt1 characters
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>>154446853
I remember lurking in a Jojo-core thread and it was surprisingly chill.

But I can't stand /fa/, so my visits there are very sporadic and brief.
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>>154442896
The guy laughs out loud at chicks because of their career choice, and asks for dating advice in the sub-sub board of a niche RPG series.

He is a lost cause.
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10 DAYS CUNTS
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>>154449607
Don't you mean NINE?
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>tfw I'm an SMT4 demon hunter
>so shit at my job that you literally can't walk ten feet in town without getting jumped by a million demons
>the only reason humanity hasn't been wiped out is because demons are too stupid to climb stairs
>only 20 feet of stairs protect us all from death
>can't even make money fighting demons. They don't drop money or anything but life stones
>only way I can make money is by quests
>the second quests get posted, some faggot from the sky shows up and steals them all
>why are half the hunters women? It's the apocalypse. Shouldn't we be breeding with them rather than risking them against demons?
>realize I'm in a rule of cool 90s anime world. Try getting a sword in one hand and shotgun in the other and an eyepatch to be badass
>It doesn't work
>Realize demons are a metaphor for books or knowledge or human desire or something
>realize this means I'm not in a 90s badass anime but some faggy 2010s 2deep4u reimagining of a 90s badass anime
>literally in the worst of all possible worlds
>I want macca and food bad can I become a macca and food demon
>apparently it doesn't work that way I'm not deep enough
>then suddenly everyone dies randomly and nobody knows why
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>>154451063
>going white
>going law

Yeah, that hunter was born in a shit world.
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>>154451170
Law is the only good SMT4 ending.
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>>154451291
Lets be honest. Atlus is just one long string of crying neutral tears.
>Make sure no one takes law by having thor try to kill you even if you side with him. Also, make the neutral side have no on-screen flaws.
>Oh no. all the japanese fans are taking law. In the second game make the church and yhvh bad no matter the ending. That'll show em.
>That didn't work. Lets change the alignment system so that there's some weird amoral system of order. Also all the angels are social darwinists now.
>Lets make a side game with no options but explicitly call the villians lawful and chaotic.
>They won't stop. Lets make you literally stand on pillars forever for law. No one will take that, r-right?
>just in case, make sure the angel is hypocritical, and has a mental breakdown.
>O-oh no. Everyone's favorite character is the angel. Lets move him to the neutral side.
>make sure ameno saigiri explicitly calls himself the master of order.
>Act ambiguous when using the phrase status quo so that it seems like the law side wants to stay in the middle ages forever.
>for good measure make you get law opints by siding with a sleazy gangster who not even his demons like who turns children into food.
>lets make a random game with three endings where all three are considered neutral. Also the villains are aliens that we call beings of order.
>Oh no. The neutral ending in Iv was too bloated, and law looked better than we thought. Lets make a sequel and explicitly call law and chaos bad ends. That'll show those kikes.
>Everyone loved SMTIIs law ending. Lets re use it but call it neutral. Also this time neutral is so happy go lucky no one dies, law and chaos are bad ends and the churches both turn neutral. Just in case anyone realizes its IIs law end, have steven call it a type of balance explicitly.

The tears just get more delicious each time. Their attempts to make law look bad just made it look more badass than ever.
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>>154452138
betatron go home
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Anon from a few weeks earlier here, who bought Strange Journey. I've spent the past 3 weeks (remainder of my summer break) playing the game nonstop, and I have absolutely loved it.

1st playthrough/save file was Law. Haven't touched it since I finished. Used the 2nd save file for a Chaos playthrough, then New Game+'d it for my "ultimate", Neutral run (pic related.)

I just beat Demiurge. Took me nearly an hour and a half, because my dumb-ass only bothered to fuse one demon with Jihad - Shiva himself. Other two were Metatron and Mastema, on constant Megidolaon/Salvation duty.

Tears rolled down my cheeks when it finally happened. I'm going for the boss rush in Antlia before I bump off Mem Aleph (for the 3rd time overall), and only then can I say I've gotten my dollar's worth out of SJ.

A game to remember.
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>>154439418
YHVH is supposed to be absolute good and evil. The mythology topics even went over how many heretical ideas were invented in mysticism to justify YHVHs villainy, but never came to a satisfied conclusion. Usually cause it makes him flawed when he's supposed to be perfect.
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>>154452138
Law is too strong even for Fatlus to destroy.
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>>154452138
There has been no game in smt that has Law and chaos as good things.

God has always been a monster in SMT and always tried to commit genocide even going as far as destroying the world just so people can worship him. The angels are his bitches and so are the demons

suk it lawfag take your blasted Tokyo and bow down to the neutral master race
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>>154437796
That idea makes complete sense actually. it's likely his components developed their own personality too as the artbook mentions Lucifers rebellious nature comes from Lucy and not Satan, which wouldn't make sense unless he developed a personality afterwards. So the ability to rebel was born from YHVHs very order to split.
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>>154417726
But the good waifus are male.
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>>154452138
As a neutralfag, this post is beautiful.
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>>154452762
Spinoff games since you never said mainline specifically.

All routes were chaos in Nocturne.

Desi2 had star alignments and the inly one associated with actual chaos and freedom via his social link is Al.

Raidou Neutral/Chaos are nearly the same, with him being only slightly more chaotic.
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Shitload of smirks on the SMT thread on /v/.
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>>154453392
Light-Law, Neutral-Neutral, and Light-Chaos are good endings in Majin Tensei II while Dark-Law/Chaos are portrayed negatively.

There are no alignment endings in If...

Devil Children is all chaos. Law bad.

Last Bible does not have alignments. Humans are the real evil in III.
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>>154452138
That says more about how stupid humans are more than anything. Humans are very stupid as a species.
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>>154453392
don't bring spin offs as its not mainline.

God was in nocturne as a avatar as was still a asshole

Desi2 is that Evangelion game right? it had nothing to do with anything not even god and felt like a persona game it is shit.
Also SMT DS1 had god make cain and able kill each other for all eternity.

don't try to justify law or chaos as they are both the same. each wants to control humans and make them there slave.

The whole point of SMT was to teach us not to rely on supernatural shit, but to fix it our self.
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>>154453883
>The whole point of SMT was to teach us not to rely on supernatural shit, but to fix it our self

No.

It is simply choosing to fight for what you believe in and reflecting on your actions in the ending.

Nothing more.
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>Lilith all over your dick in SMT
>Can't give her the dick to fix her crazy and bring her over to your side of the fence if you're not Chaos
Man, she just needs a good dicking.
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>>154453975
>expecting a guy that can't even formulate grammatically-sound sentences to understand the overarching concept of a series of games
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>>154453883
Desu2 had Star Gods aka Alien YHVH and amoeba jellyfish Alien Great Will.
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>>154454024
If you really want to dick her, just dick her and go for the chaos route.
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>>154453975
Are you stupid?
Every SMT Game has god trying to destroy your world to take over it.

SMT 1 has god angels trying to take over shit
SMT 2 has God make his main man nuke the world and trying to take over shit.
SMT 3 Has no god in plain sight but the avatar is God (this the only game where god does not show fully but is a fact that he is a asshole as told by many)
SMT SG Has god doing the same shit but losing and then if you want trying to take over the world again by mind control.
SMT IV Has god as the new hitler

All Demons in all the SMT universes are also assholes that do the survival of the fittest BS but never win cause god say so.

>It is simply choosing to fight for what you believe in and reflecting on your actions in the ending.
No Thats blind faith in something stupid
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>>154454378
I would if I could but you get storyblocked by Heroine.
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>>154454447
You do realise that the only presence YHVH has within Strange Journey is the Demiurge, right? The main antagonist of SJ is Mem Aleph, a figure that's unrelated to YHVH.
Furthermore, Kagutsushi is just an avatar, not YHVH himself. An avatar can't be the actual entity it's representing, that's why it's an AVATAR.
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>>154454447
>It's not wrong to put everything into simple "good" and "evil", like in other games, but what's right and wrong can be completely different, depending on your position and perspective; it's very ambiguous. So I say, why not let each player tackle that question of what's right and wrong?

From Kaneko himself.
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>>154454578
Not to mention spirits of the earth Three Wise Men came up with it after YHVH got his shit kicked in and took over while letting the angels think they still follow Gods will
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>>154454578
i want to get in this as i love getting into fights but SMT SJ was my first game. I am just going to post what i found on the interboob.

YHVH has an important role in the backstory, but his actual presence is only seen in a New Game+. In the distant past, God trampled the Mother Goddesses and subjugated humanity on Earth. Before the main events of the story, worship of God falters and causes him to weaken his seal on the Mother Goddesses. In that moment of weakness, God is attacked and shattered by the Mother Goddesses of the Schwarzwelt. The Goddesses attempt to restore the original state of the world and eliminate human civilization through the Schwarzwelt due to humanity having wasted the world away. Several of YHVH's fragments were sealed in the Schwarzwelt itself.

YHVH first appears as a human in a Demonica, and later, after being partially restored, as Metatron and requests the help of the protagonist to defeat Alilat and Demiurge. After the player defeats the Demiurge, YHVH attempts to absorb Demiurge's power and restore himself, but the player can shut him off and seal him by canceling the fusion midway through. A voice warns the protagonist not to release the "Arrogant God" - referring to YHVH. If the fusion is successful, YHVH takes the Demiurge's appearance, becomes known as "Refined Voice" and says that he's slowly returning to his true form "full of light". Refined Voice says that the true enemy is the Spirit of the Earth itself, and promises to help and protect humanity as long as humanity is obedient to the Holy Spirit. If the protagonist chooses to follow the celestial feminine voice, Metatron will be sealed away and the protagonist will gain the same reward from the mission.


Also is nocturne fun. i hear a lot of good stuff about it
chaos ftw
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>>154455059
>is nocturne fun
Depends. Do you enjoy games with a story that sits in the background and acts as an excuse for dungeon crawling? Do you enjoy games that are atmospheric as fuck? Do you enjoy big-ass dungeons and boss fights that can be challenging? Then yeah, you'll like Nocturne.
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>>154452286
What is that a picture of?
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>>154452762
Anon... law is literally the right answer in every game, not counting apocalypse's bad law ending. But for apocalypse we're counting massacre as the law equivalent ending.
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>>154455402
It's called try another series.
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>>154455402
The cheat code is Ireallyhopeyourebeingfacetious
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>>154455381
Massacre is the "up to interpretation" ending. Yes it can be law, but it can also be chaos if you believe that is the world Nanashi creates.
Which is why it's the only ending I will so much as acknowledge in IVA. Bonds is non-canon to me.
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>>154455253
>Do you enjoy games with a story that sits in the background and acts as an excuse for dungeon crawling
no
>Do you enjoy games that are atmospheric as fuck
yes
>Do you enjoy big-ass dungeons and boss fights that can be challenging
Only if i get good shit


so what's the cheat code for Godmode and no monster battles?


>>154455447
what game do you suggest

>>154455471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14
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>>154455519
Even the fancy map of the three factions display the same green for chaos and red for law, the color associated with Dagda Nanashi and Danu and her bitch.
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>>154455381
your killing the embodiment of law bro.
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>>154455540
Please kindly remove yourself from the premises.
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>>154455674
>green for chaos and red for law
So purely going by what you just told me, Nanashi is a chaos hero. Otherwise, pic related.
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>>154455794
Do you think i would like Shin Megami Tensei if i play persona. I liked persona 2, but Persona 3 was shit
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>>154455883
>mentioning the forbidden name
OUT
U
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>>154455519
The problem with interpreting it as chaos is that you are specifically wiping out every potential rival, and there's really no indication that you have any chaotic aligned attributes. Sure, it doesn't explicitly say you make a world analogous to a normal law one. But the ideological slant is very law. The whole "being willing to kill people up front for a greater peace" is basically its attempt to work a law aligned slant in there without explicitly calling it one. And you calling yourself a god to establish that you are the only gods with power over this world implies a single standard. Even trying to keep demons off of earth despite the game presenting it as neutral is actually also something that is associated with law. Its really more of a dark / law ending. Even though the ambiguity is such that you could in theory swerve the other direction and go chaos, it would still be in more of a yamato sense where its done by a world order that is still treated as an order. There is some ambiguity, but the actual ideological preconceptions are something that is basically dancing around law. Especially since you are presented as the new arrogant god.

One other reason to associate it with law is that its basically a true monotheism ending to contrast true demon.
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>>154456060
SJ had the Chaos faction murder everyone who didn't fit their views and genocide previous civilizations countless times before. Humans are so special they get a second chance and Mem Aleph fused with the earth to prevent it from losing its way.

It's far more rare but decide has been done by chaos if you are going to use the past Law games.
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>>154455883
it's written "if..."
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>>154456235
if what?
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>>154456186
His right what? Can't you form proper sentences?
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>>154456060
Yamatos ending spelled it out when a shota is willing to die to protect his weak underlings because it's logical the strongest holds them off while the weak get help. Wven the nurse points out that if that one douche did something instead of begging using his no longer valid connections people would help him.
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>>154456260
"Shin Megami Tensei if..." Heh-heh-heh!
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>>154456270
>His right what? Can't you form proper sentences
I am sorry my good sir let me fix that for you

>>154456036
I do believe you are correct sir in saying that mind zero is the best smt game
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>>154456060
>Even trying to keep demons off of earth despite the game presenting it as neutral is actually also something that is associated with law
Keep in mind that you also get rid of all angels, something many lawfags seem to forget whenever they make this point.
>The whole "being willing to kill people up front for a greater peace" is basically its attempt to work a law aligned slant in there without explicitly calling it one
This is something that Neutral became (in)famous for, what with its "kill all your friends/omnicidal for what you may or may not believe is right" paths. Admittedly, it never ceases to annoy me, but it's there.
>Especially since you are presented as the new arrogant god.
Up to interpretation. Unless you're talking about when you usurp YHVH, in which case you're right.
>One other reason to associate it with law is that its basically a true monotheism ending to contrast true demon.
Good point.
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>>154456212
Also note that demons are an important aspect of chaos. And you are getting rid of them here. Law neutral and chaos are associated with god humans and demons respectively. But in some games humans are moved a bit to law too. For instance, in Iv killing humans makes you chaos and killing demons makes you law, and the reverse. And in some games like both IV and II law endings end with no demons on the surface. Whereas on neutral there still are. So the extreme lengths that clear out all demons are ironically something also associated with law at times. Note that this even includes angels, since the angels tend to die as well in those endings. Satan is still aligned as law in his status screen in game, and is an angel who dies in setting up the world.

In TDE you are destroying the world forever to erase the possibility of existence as a regular human for anyone in it. Meaning they would have to be born as demons. But the opposite of that is establishing power over a world in a way demons can't effect it to tempt people. Massacre has both the association of "monotheistic god" as well as the association of "humans over demons." And you as god are set up to have no rival, making you exempt from any indication of chaotic rules. So this dual god and man but no demons association has a tone that leans sharply law-wise. With a bit of neutral. Its a stretch to say there's many chaotic associations other than of course the fact that since its about you, you can technically do whatever you want. But you can in theory apply that logic to any ending.
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>>154456418
>Shin Megami Tensei if..." Heh-heh-heh
Shin Megami Tensei if?
If what?
i don't get it was is it trying to be?


i really do think persona 5 will be the best in the SMT verse. it will all connect with the Amala Universe in the end trust me.
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>>154456428
And wven if they aren't doing shit at that points angels still exist in IV and IIs Law ending.

Gabriel might even lose her way considering she has no idea what to do with YHVH gone.

Neutral/Chaos Gab likely offed herself so she reincarnated to DDS.

>>154456561
Law is associated with God(s). Hebrew Gods, Hebraic Gods, even Blasted Tokyo the Gods sided with Law so you fight them in some sidequests. Even some of the commercial in Japan said Gods or Demons if I remember right.
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>>154456428
>Keep in mind that you also get rid of all angels, something many lawfags seem to forget whenever they make this point.

But getting rid of all angels happens in most of the law endings. In II gabriel at the end straight up tells you that her role is over, and the new world is for you. In IV the angels die. Even in nocturne, in the reason endings demons are banished from earth. And in SJ, there's no mention of any angels in the new world but zelenin. And in overclocked, past the ending there's no mention of angels either. Implying that once you pacify a place, they move on. So the angels disappearing once their role is over is actually a common staple of law endings. There's never any implication of angels living among humans in the way demons do on chaos endings.

Specifically looking at II again, satan crumbles to dust and gabriel leaves and they pass the torch to you, the messiah, since law is more about the messiah as a figure. In massacre you are literally called a messiah. Satan crumbles to dust after helping you here as well.

>This is something that Neutral became (in)famous for

Neutral kills for neutrality, not for peace. Not only that, but in neutral you only directly ever kill enemy units. The killing in massacre definitely has a tone that more resembles law. To switch it up, note that killing the combined group of messians and gaians calls to mink hikawa breaking the world to make a new one even though he's analogous to the normal law.

>Up to interpretation. Unless you're talking about when you usurp YHVH, in which case you're right.

Note that acting stoic was an angel and law figure thing, not a yhvh thing. You smirk similar to yhvh.

>Good point.

Note that you also brainwash your waifu and flynn. A human replacing yhvh calls to mind christianity and jesus replacing old testament yhvh. Not only that, but you ending with three people in your group may be calling to mind the christian trinity. Humanized by messiah.
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>>154456636
Adam, the first man, is the final boss.
>>154456692
>And wven if they aren't doing shit at that points angels still exist in IV and IIs Law ending.

What does that have to do with IVA massacre?

>Gabriel might even lose her way considering she has no idea what to do with YHVH gone. Neutral/Chaos Gab likely offed herself so she reincarnated to DDS.

I care why?
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>>154456894
>But getting rid of all angels happens in most of the law endings

Oh. I stand corrected.

>Neutral kills for neutrality, not for peace

Tell that to SMT1 hero.

Other than those two points, I agree with you.
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>>154456913
Angels are still demons no matter how much they try to say otherwise. Raphael even calls himself and his brethren demons of the land in his DLC fight. And as long as their presence is around they can descend to madness or follow YHVHs twisted will.
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>>154457098
*Other than that one point I agree with you.
Goddamn allnighters.
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>>154457098
He's lying. Most angels still exist in Law endings. Only big names like Satan in II and Merkabah in IV have offed themselves. And the last one is genetically part Filth thanks to Jonathan.
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>>154457115
I completely understand what you are saying specifically, but I fail to understand what that has to do with my post >>154456913.

>Angels are still demons no matter how much they try to say otherwise

I agree, but do you have an explanation as to what that has to do with what I said?
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>>154457262
I didn't say they ceased to exist. I said there's no indication of them interacting with earth past that point. Which is true for most of the endings.
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>>154457347
Doesn't the world become heaven on earth in the law endings though? If so, wouldn't it make more sense for the angels to stay?
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666th hoy
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>>154457404
Extrapolating what makes sense doesn't matter. They may depart for other earths to do the same thing over again. Or maybe they think the system works better with them living in the heaven equivalent of the demon world or whatever. There's a lot of options. The point here is that demons are implied as living integrated with humans in the chaos endings. But that is never depicted as a feature of law. So angels not being present in the new world after massacre doesn't inherently add something that distances it from law. Because that is a common staple of it. And its not like we have to ask where the angels were, since satan was by your side helping you get to the new world, talking about how your rule will be better than yhvh's. And was still identified as law on his status screen. (though i suspect it means dark law). So its not like there's anything weird here that inherently makes it unable to be presented as law.
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>>154457347
Which is a deliberate ruse to fuck with you and no you are still wrong.

IVA the angels are still around and they go to rule Mikado.
I the angels are still around and they made a cell phone to show the cesspool they build.
SJ the angels are everywhere and Zelenin an angel controls all.

Nocturrne had no demon but DemiFiend at the end of all Reasons.

II and IV hadLaw endings where the angels leave/have nothing more to do but there's enough things left over in IVs to imply shit can go bad in the future. Especially leaving a man like Hugo in charge.
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>>154457668
>IVA the angels are still around and they go to rule Mikado.

No one cares what happens in an early bad ending, especially in the same game where that is being contrasted to what we are calling the new law equivalent ending.

>I the angels are still around and they made a cell phone to show the cesspool they build.

Good thing I didn't list 1 as a game they weren't around in then.

>SJ the angels are everywhere and Zelenin an angel controls all.

No angels other than zelenin are shown interacting with humans in the new world.

>II and IV hadLaw endings where the angels leave/have nothing more to do but there's enough things left over in IVs to imply shit can go bad in the future. Especially leaving a man like Hugo in charge.

That wasn't even what we were talking about. The point of the topic was whether the fact that there was no angels in the new world after the massacre ending made it too different from law to depict as a law ending. The point being that it doesn't, since law endings don't all involve angels being hanging out around people in the new world. And there are times where humans are directly contrasted with demons, as the orderly option rather than angels and demons. And there's still you know, a new god. Which is more than there was at the end of II.
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>>154457898
You didn't notice all the angels floating in the sky around Zelenin and Zelenin still counts as she's an angel puppet controlling humanity for her superior angel overlords and Mastemas promotion.

New God means jackshit. just because there's a new god doesn't mean its Law. Just like it didn't in Devil Survivor 2 because they don't follow the old alignments and Devil Children Red/Black where you even have an option to kill God and take her place. That's the neutral ending in that game.
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>>154457898
Even in II the angels are still hanging around even if they have no purpose to fulfill. Only IV had them say the angels are truly gone.
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So, who will Atlus get to voice YHVH in Final? Can they shell out extra buck to get Plankton's VA to voice YHVH?
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>>154457898
Early bad endings still would count. No one excludes the White afterall. We all shit on Nocturnes little bitch Demon ending. I imagine if Shesha hadn't blown up a hole in the ceiling they would have done IV's Law again.
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>>154459648
Michael Mconnihie is who I'm hoping for.
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>>154460029
I think he's the only one who can pull it off, similiar to how Mary Elizabeth McGylnn can pull off Inanna without the shitty voice distortion.
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>>154456636
>persona 5 will be the best in the SMT verse
Lost.
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>>154318694
> It's Pokemon-esque

You're joking, right? This baiting is getting too real for me.
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Is the Maitreya-Mitra thing in Final ever explained?
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>>154460442
Name origins mentioned in the Final topics.

Both originate from the same word. Like SJ had demons transform into Gods with similar names.
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Is there anyone in the Polythestic Alliance who isn't an asshole?
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Just started SMT IV. When does Walter say Hoy? Or is that only an English dub thing
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Why is Tokyo in IV so underwhelming and boring?
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>>154462251
Hoyman shall hoy when the time is right.
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>>154462251
Doesn't he say it (or something close to it) right when he meets you in the dream?
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Are the Polytheistic Alliance Demons in SMTIV FInal that are available the same one Nanashi and Co just beat?
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>>154462209
Inanna.

Just Inanna.
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>>154452138
I would be stupidly interested in seeing what were the most common endings chosen by a majority of players based on their region.

Japan and Law makes too much sense to me
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>>154464958
>>Japan and Law
>Not America and law
Japan is probably mixed.
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>>154462251
I hoy, therefore I am
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>>154464954
How is she the only decent one? I figured that there would be more nice members like the Four Devas
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>>154465980
I would switch the nails to something else, since they kind of point to Jesus, which may or may not be a point here.

The heads are a nice touch, but the body could have something more defined than random stone texture.

Also, remarkably similar to Arsène in general
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>>154452138
>law side wants to stay in the middle ages forever.
I don't think a society less reliant on technology is that bad desu albeit is rather stupid to expect people playing a game on their 3ds willing give up modernity and see any good from doing so.
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>>154462251
He follows the path of Hoy. A real dedicated Hoyman.
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>>154452138
But even that didn't work because Polytheistic Alliance came off as more interesting than the heroes. Stephen advocating the waifu of Tokyo coupled makes him look pathetic
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>mainliners cucked once again
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>>154465980
Yes.
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>>154466246
They are guarding Mirokus stash that is leaving humanity to be eaten by demons cause the dsp does not work.
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>>154473681
How did Inanna even get out of Toki in the cosmic egg?
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>coming Summer 2016
>comes one day right before autumn

Yeah, fuck you too Atlus.
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>>154475848
Autumn starts Sept.1 dumbass.
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>>154455883
SMT is essentially Persona without the hours of talking to people between dungeons.
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>>154460425
Collecting enemies with random chance catch attempts. Most of the meta-game is literally filling out your Demondex.
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>>154476163
Non-Northern Hemisphere fags are not welcome here.
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>>154460425
That phrase is the only thing that makes you think he's memeing?
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Hee hoy.
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>>154476930
I never meme.
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>>154477885
Your loss.
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Hoy
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ONE
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OF
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Mafreidyne
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I guess it's time to for me to go.

I'll see you on the other side...
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Why are the angels and demons so arrogant? They, literally, never win unless a human helps them win. And one human alone can destroy their entire armies and ruin all their plans. So where does the superiority complex comes from? Are they just that deluded?
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If you fuckers don't want to spoil P5 for yourself you should know that people already got their early copies.
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>>154486534
>Are they just that deluded
yes
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>>154487764
final boss who and what main story?
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>>154487764
>the samurai people leaking spoilers
Topkek m8 /pg/ is sucking the dick of some chinese nobody on youtube with less than 100 subscribers begging for the OST
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>>154488418
I don't even get why people want to ruin the experience of playing the game themselves. Are they all just retarded or something?
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>>154488535
are you retarded they are asking for the OST how does that ruin someone's experience?
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>>154488912
Because experiencing the OST in context is important. It will create an association in your brain between the music and the moment it plays, which helps you remember both the music and the moment better. If you listen to it beforehand, this association likely won't form.
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>>154488912
This is gonna come as a surprise to ya, but the OST-or music in general- leave an impression on some people so, it's a part of the experience. I heard that in some video games they use music to manipulate people's moods! Crazy, I know.
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>>154486534
>one human

weeeeell, more likely than not they are super special people(Aleph, SMT4's reincarnations) or have access to super special powers (Lucy's demiworm and Demonica with magic DSP).

Besides, even with them you had to load the game quite a lot of times, eh???
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Doing a second playthrough of Soul Hackers on hard mode with just Protag and Nemissa.

I'm considering doing a third playthrough with just Protag on hard.

Is it even possible?
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>>154489690
>they are super special people
>tfw kaneko wanted the protagonists to be some average joes
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>>154489478
>wtf I heard this song before there I can't be emotionally attached to it now
Yes you are crazy you might as well consider PVs spoiling as well
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Chaos ending first playthrough for Raidou 2, right?
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>>154490465
That would alter my first time experience, anon, yes. Good for you if it doesn't alter yours. It's not about "spoilers" it's about not knowing what to expect, even though I can't say that about Persona's OST with a straight face.
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>>154489824
Just Protag and Nemissa is more or less how you should normally play outside of bosses.

Protag only is retarded. He can get Mudowned pretty easily and does next to no damage.
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Have a nice wheeeee
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>>154492385
Persona always has great music.
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>>154495042
Persona 1 Portable had some good tracks in it, but the J-Pop was fucking awful. The majority of P4's OST was garbage, too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auaVvNQKQiI

>persona will never have music this good again
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>>154495834
>The majority of P4's OST was garbage, too.
trash taste
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>Persona will never be advertised like this again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-s2joah25Y
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>>154495042
"Great" would be a clear exaggeration. They range from good to mediocre and each OST has good tracks and terrible ones.

>>154495834
I don't mind the J-Pop, actually I kinda liked it but, yeah 4 had the overall weakest OST.
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>>154496975
Fair point. A bit of an exaggeration, but by SMT standards Persona is well ahead.
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>>154497217
>but by SMT standards Persona is well ahead.
What do you mean exactly?
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So Final is good in everything but story wise right?
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>>154497217
>but by SMT standards Persona is well ahead
No way nigger.

In terms of OSTs

Mainline > Devil Survivor > Digital Devil Saga > Persona > Devil Summoner
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>>154497482
Play it and form your own opinion.
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>>154497495
Switch Devil Survivor and DDS and you're golden. I love DeSu but both DeSu's have some really weak tracks here and there.
However, Demon of Darkness is among the best tracks in the whole series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyjPtWih3LU
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>>154497495
>Devil Survivor that high
Only DeSu 2 has a good OST the first one is unredeemable trash
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>>154498784
I politely disagree with your opinion, because I think both DeSu games had good soundtracks.
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>>154497495
D
>DeSu
>Good soundtrack
Did anyone ever listened to it without the player breaking?
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>>154498784
The only good tracks in DeSu 2 are the battle themes, the rest is trash.
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>>154498784
Way to get it backwards. DeSu1 had the superior OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5NCTgMP6lA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wElRX24_ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_r0D5sUzUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLqkMov6GSA
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Shoji is best DeSu girl.
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>>154499649
Shoji is underrated. I prefer Amane or Haru though.
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What the fuck is this?
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I finished SMT 1, what should I play next, SMT 2 or Raidou Kuzunoha
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>>154500281
Raidou. Take a break from mainline.
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>>154499328
Nah DeSu OST could never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGPZPZI7sDQ&list=PLypjPUCTbOfprloOhyE_d8LaC1hYnrcPo&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Md4GVgJnY4&list=PLypjPUCTbOfprloOhyE_d8LaC1hYnrcPo&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnedsQpB4e0&index=6&list=PLypjPUCTbOfprloOhyE_d8LaC1hYnrcPo
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>>154497495
Mainline SMT has some of Atlus's worst soundtrack work. Are you high?
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>>154502454
>Mainline SMT has some of Atlus's worst soundtrack work
Are YOU high?
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>>154502454
>Mainline OST
>worst soundtrack
>SMT IV OST
>probably the best OST Atlus ever shat out
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>>154500373
Should I shoot for a particular path? I usually go neutral or chaos but I'll always take the route that's most fun on my first playthrough
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>>154504432
Raidou 1 doesn't have alignments. There are no paths/routes. Raidou 2 does though, in which case you should do Chaos first.
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>>154504764
How long is each game then? I was planning on starting SMT 2 right after soulless army but if they're short enough I'll play both
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>>154507296
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>>154507697
Hey, don't do that.
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>>154509380

fight it out, you little shits
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>>154497495
>DDS after DeSu
Anon, pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlCHdONvgQk
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