/edg/scg/ - Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous General #40

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1st for they're coming

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Polaris Hype, post price guess and your secondary/backup email. Whoever has the closest guess to the price will be gifted a Polaris to that email at CitCon

>>153946580
but they aren't just patching it. According to one of the devs, Cryengine's original netcode was made to handle what the engine was used to: relatively small teams of players going at it. That's why the current playercap is 24. Unoptomised code aside, the netcode is being either replaced entirely or very heavily modified to meet the needs of an MMO like what SC is going to be. They aren't just doing some small patch with a few tweaks here and there.

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>>153946812
And just incase you didn't realise who's doing this giveaway.

Not gifting ships for 6+ months has given me a surplus capacity of money.

>>153946993
>the netcode is being replaced entirely
yeah, that's the problem, they're replacing a semi-functional thing with half baked shit that will never work right

>>153946993
PoE's netcode revision wasn't "just a patch", either. They fundamentally remade how it worked from the ground up.

>>153947124
>semi functional
It doesn't meet the needs of an MMO, and it barely meets the needs of 24 people in a server.

>they're replacing a semi-functional thing with half baked shit that will never work right
>half baked shit that will never work right

You've seen the netcode refactor? Can I have a source for it not improving SC and never working?

>>153947254
They're doing this in SC as well. I don't know about the game you mentioned and how it worked for them, but if they did that, what's the issue? (assuming you have the same issue as the anon above who can see half a year into the future)

>>153947124
>they're replacing a semi-functional thing with half baked shit that will never work right

Here's your (You)

>>153947509
cryengine was built for 64 players on large battlefield style maps with physics, remember power struggle?

instancing can in theory exist totally separately from that, it's not and never was going to be a WOW/EVE/planetside style mmo where you have literal thousands of players in the same space together.

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>>153946812
If there's only one type or a Polaris-M it will be 800
If it's modular, the base or civilian variant will be 600
[email protected]

>>153946812
[email protected] 850$ for the military version
725$ for the civilian/empty version

>>153945026

Is SE open source? Maybe the slav should accept some help on his project. I'm sure there are plenty of autists that want him to realize his dream of SE being a space sim mmo.

>>153947690
Anon, I'm 100% sure that if Cryengine's current setup was good enough for what the devs needed to make SC, then they wouldn't spend the better part of a year changing it. But, the professionals who work at CIG, who made Cryengine originally, decided that the netcode needs to be redone for the purposes that they require. I'm confident that those people are more qualified to make this decision than some random on 4chan who thinks "if it worked for this game, it'll definitely work for another" without considering the vast differences between those games and what SC is going to be.

Just a thought.

>>153946812
So I can join in this guess stuff, how would I be able to transfer it to my main character? I thought you were only allowed to gift something once? Do I have to make another CIG account or just a throwaway email?

>>153947009
>And just in case you didn't realize who's doing this giveaway

Nope. No clue.

>>153947509
> I don't know about the game you mentioned
Path of Exile. It's a Diablo clone, just got a new expansion, if you're into that shit you should check it out. It's free to play.

>what's the issue?
The game had massive desync issues because the client and server game states weren't synchronized as an action was taken, but rather after it. It was kind of the equivalent of FPS games where when you take an action (say, change movement directions), the other players would see your character glitch into whatever new action it's supposed to be doing. Except a much, much more extreme version of it.

Then they reworked it into a DotA style netcode where every single action you take is preapproved by the server and your game client is actually privy to more of the game logic.

>(assuming you have the same issue as the anon above who can see half a year into the future)
I don't have any issues.

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>>153947889
>>153946812


Fuck it now I need to theory craft.

Polaris-M[ilitary] with a Railgun & STS smaller than the Idris. Low cargo, low speed - $800 Limited to 4000
Polaris-P[eacekeeper] Railgun removed, STS still present. Medium cargo, medium speed $700
Polaris-C[ivilian] No STS, light guns only. Maximum speed, Maximum cargo. $550

>>153947889
>Fear Agent
Is that worth getting into? Never heard of it before, but it looks interesting.

>>153948204
You click the redemption email while logged into your main account and it'll redeem it to that account.

My greentext will be ready soon :)

>>153946812
wait, is this real or just a mockup?

>>153948789
If this image isn't already public then I've just lost my job, so please tell me you've seen it before.

>>153948789
It's not even official.

>>153948789
It's some fanart that keeps getting posted every thread. Basically it will look nothing like it.

>>153948789
I wish it was real.

>>153948865
i saw it 2 or 3 threads ago but i thought someone said it was the "polaris" concept back from one of TNGS modders or something, not the new one

>>153948789
yes it's a real spacecraft built by nasa

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>>153946792
holy fuck

how do I find the station that the ship I'm looking for is on sale?

>>153949210
>implying nasa builds spacecraft anymore

>>153946792
>All he wrote was 'they're coming'
>Somehow had time to write this out and nothing else

Hmm.

>>153949530
>implying nasa builds "space"craft

>>153949493
http://ed-td.space/en/18/Find+Ship/system/4191/ship/21

this helped me me find a courier

>>153949493
go to shinrarta dezhra

>>153946812
It'll sell for an even one thousand. A little less than the idris originally sold for since it won't be able to hold multiple ships.

[email protected]

>>153946812
Polaris M $900
Polaris P $750
[email protected]

Thank you Mr. Skellington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Nz6pv8J4A

>>153949656
True, it's more traditional to write cryptic warning messages in blood.

>>153950293
Muh immersion is broken when all these faggots write in their log is some short cryptic message. The least they could have done is made it seem like a voice log during his final moments with the computer recording and writing down his screaming.

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>scanning ships, looking for criminals
>see this
no fucking way

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>>153950293
IN-IN-IN-INCO-INCOMMING MISSION CRITICAL MESSAGE

>>153950489
Can he BE anymore clean?

>>153950710
Mostly Harmless
Mostly Clean

think that we'll be able to rent out our Argos like in its description? it'll be nice to have a source of passive income but I'm not sure if CIG will let people do that without a few catches at least

>>153950492
A BOMB?!

>>153950121
You're welcome my child.

May space spooks be blessed unto you, and make your guess correct.

>>153950981
>passive income

pls god no

>>153946792
So does this mean exploring will be a waste of time when they finally come?

>>153951258
Why?

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Best.

>>153951425
because it lets people who bought shit get even further ahead

cultists will talk about their """investments""" instead of donations

>>153951258
I get that it's a terrible idea but it'd be nice to pay repair bills without doing anything, maybe they'll cap it to one or two of them but even then I can see orgs just buying one for everyone and their alts if they can

>>153951471
>smaller than a 727
I thought this was supposed to be the future. where's my fuckin 7777 gigajets that cost less than ever to operate since they don't need fuel for most of the journey but still charge an arm and a leg and have the size and seat density of kowloon walled city for maximum profits?

>>153950981
>>153951258
if there are passive expenditures (taxes, rent, crew salaries, etc) then I would be ok with passive income

>>153946812
Nice, I'll give it a try.

[email protected]

Single Variant: $650
Multiple:
M-Variant: $850
P-Variant: $650
Stripped(Base): $450

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>>153951471
but the pilots view is going to be even shittier than the starfarer

>>153951471
Nice space dildo. Plan on fucking starports with that?

Inb4 your momma joke.

Ps she has two.

>>153952182
Space themed dildos would be good
I bet a 300i one would feel fantastic

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>tfw no conniefag
:<

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>>153952943
Wrong.

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>>153952714
No way, the merlin/Archimedes would be the best dildo

>>153946812
Take the price you think is reasonable and add 50 to 100%.

So I'm going to say $1100. The prices have been steadily inflating lately so I would not be surprised if the Corvette is sold for the same price as something that's now a frigate.

>>153953951
Forgot my email:
regault at yahoo.com

>>153952943
>>153953083

You two just need to fuck already.

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>>153870407

>...and we were on our merry way with our requested loadouts
>Just in time, really
>The employer organization was very specific on the timing of this mission based on prior data collected from some inside agent, but with the false report of resupply at the Wreck-City that we essentially relied on, we lost the extra time we bought ourselves in finishing the earlier objective quicker than we originally thought.
>"Shell?"
>"What?" replied the other Redeemer Pilot over comms
>"So here in the mission list it says after we ambush and kill those 2 TEST heavy bomber patrols at the Asteroid Junction, we get our ballistic kits, albeit a little late, and now we're supposed to wait for confirmation from Renegade that their part is done? I think this whole operation is bullshit, and I highly doubt we're ever going to get that confirmation, even if it's Renegade Squadr-"
>"Why do you care?" said Modifier, the Crucible pilot as we exit the atmosphere into space. “We, and the others, got hired to infiltrate the system and do our little part so that BLAST, our employer, can get control back of this system. We collected the blackbox data from the Bombers for confirmation, and we got paid our little part for the mission as assurance that they're serious about this overly complicated Op. Everyone in formation, we're jumping randomly so we don't get fucked. I also need to outfit your ships”
>Autopilot took control and we all got into the standard 2 - 1 - 5 form to Q-travel to somewhere safe
>He continued as the drives spooled into action, "Anyway, so far we have our money back for these NPCs we hired, so regardless of whether or not Renegade can move this whole thing along is irrelevant. If it doesn't come before the set time, we can scram."

1/5

I have a fully kitted vulture to sell and 44mil. What is a multirole setup with decent defense capability?

>>153954183
*decent

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>>153954173

>"He's right," said Basic, the only real Super Hornet pilot in the group, ”we at the very least covered the cost for the NPCs and guns we have and a little more, so if this turns out to fail we have what we need."
>We exited Quantum travel some millions of km from the nearest celestial body
>”But still, they were serious enough to hire Renegade for the main part of this shit. That’s pretty big to be honest.” finished Basic
>”Ok guys, I know, but could they really do this? In the PMC briefing a few days ago, apparently Renegade was hired with killing the TEST Idris deployed to the Alpha belt. You know, the really good one with their Org 4th in command? Do you actually think they can do it? I know not to get too mixed up in all the politics since we’re hired guns, but I want this operation to succeed. TEST are all faggots.”
>I greatly disliked TEST because of a bad deal a long time ago.
>”I think so.” said Modifier. ”Remember a few months ago? Yeah, they got a UEE mission to kill Elite Scythes in Virgil as an impossible criminal redemption job, and then with only 15 player characters they went and killed 3 vanduul heavy bombers and a /fucking/ destroyer. They didn’t lose a single NPC or player.”
>”Fuck, I remember that,” added Basic, “I also remember shortly after that when their appearance in that Delamar war in Nyx stopped the fighting. Rumor has it, they have a base in that belt, and didn’t want any major conflict in their home town. Funny how a group of maybe 20-ish people can stop all of that shit from simply being seen in a scanner.”
>”Enough Renegade dick-sucking,” said Shell. “We need to get ready for the next objective. If Renegade pulls through, we’re going to the intercept route so that the other PMCs can get to the next spot. Following the set plan, we’ll be stopping more bomber groups before they reach the Alpha belt from that Planetoid base in the Gamma belt.”

2/5

>>153954098
he is samefagging

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>weapons fire detected [threat 4]
every time I see that I spin my ship 360 degrees and fly away

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>>153954346

>”Right.” said Modifier as he opened his Crucible to allow refitting. “Here’s the Strat. Super Hornets load lots of Size 1 energy rockets instead of missiles, and I replace the Battery upgrade slots from the energy weapons with extra mags for these ballistics. Load the Redeemers with extra mags and Size 4 cluster missiles. I bought extra of everything just because it was cheap. Fighters first, gunships last. When we’re going out to the destination, use the energy rockets first and shoot ballistics only when their shields are below 20% so that we get full pen and not waste extra rockets on the shields, which should take 3 well placed rockets. I’ll park the crucible some far out from the quantum location and stay on comms with passive radar. Give each Redeemer a personal guard, and have Basic keep 2 of them so we effectively have 3 small squadrons for focus firing. TEST use only energy weapons, so set the power used from your coolers to the shields. When the guns are at 80% heat, scram and set all power to coolers yada yada you know the usual.”
>The NPC ships began landing into the Crucible in order to receive their new load outs.
>When Basic was leaving the hangar bay, my redeemer received a status update on the other PMCs operations in the system.
>”Hey guys, operation updates!” I yelled into the mic.
>”Finally,” said Shell.
>”What’s it say?” asked Modifier
>”It came in a batch, so I’ll read the summaries from top to bottom: Death Adder group successfully took stealth-control of comm array 391 and relay station 448 to allow full system stealth communications between the hired orgs for this job. They’ve relayed the positions of all Alpha and Beta belt groups to all concerned in those belts. Rekt, Decker, Solo, Goyim, Sparrow, and Viking fighter groups managed to destroy a total of 76 TEST fighters and 12 logistical craft across the Beta belt.”
>”Sweet jesus.” said Basic.

3/5

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So /edg/, a youtuber called Turjan recently sketched what he envisioned to be the crashed alien ship in it's fully constructed form.

Are you ready for...

The Amazing Flying Swastika!

So I found myself having to fetch my FAS from about 500 LY away from "home" (roll on 2.2!). As you know the FAS ain't the best traveller and my excuse is I was tired, :). This meant I forgot to filter out non scoopable stars from the GM, ending up in Hyades Sector OJ-N A8-1 with around 25% reserve tank only. "So who you gonna call? Fuelbusters lol aka those very cool people over at www.fuelrats.com

I was impressed with the way they handled my problem, their operations board is manned 24/7 and from what I've seen very professionally. Within a few minutes of logging in, my rescuer CMDR Ballantin was firing much needed fuel limpets my way. So a huge thank you to The Fuel Rats, a brilliant idea executed with such great spirit, just like ED itself!

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>>153954520

>”DEATH, Sq1337, Rancid, Dane, ByGone, and Code Gay-ass groups managed to destroyed 18 heavy bombers, 45 fighters, and 10 logistical vehicles like Starfarers and Crucibles.
>”We contributed like 5 of those bomber kills!” said Modifier as his ship auto-refitted Shell’s Redeemer.
>”Not done yet, but this seems very good for now. It says here that, with the comm array and relay stealth-hacked, TEST officials in the Gamma Belt may still not be aware of this massive assault yet, and even if they did, all of our aliases make us untraceable until the BLAST fleet makes their appearance when that Idris is dealt with.”
>”So they haven’t killed it yet?” asked Basic.
>”It says they’re ‘in-progress’. I guess they’re fighting it, so our time is near. Finally, it says total losses on our side are at about 25 fighters and 4 logistical craft, and that’s spread across every PMC they hired for this. No groups have sustained heavy losses, and most groups are fully intact.”
>”That’s the power of the ambush. Thank god they had that reliable double agent to tell us everything about their fleet. This could have been a slaughter for us.” added Modifier.
>”It’s crazy when I think about it. This operation started literally 4 hours ago and we already did decent damage and activated no alarms.” I thought out loud.
>”Considering the size of the TEST org and their affiliates, our jobs are really just to soften them up. This relatively new lawless system has 4 landable terrestrial planets, 3 dense asteroid belts, a gas giant, an ice giant, and 12 moons, and that humongous base in that planetoid. If that agent was right, TEST put about 1/4 of their entire org here because of how profitable the base and planets are. What I’m /really/ surprised about is the thought of the gamma base not being notified and basically scrambling everyone.”

4/5

>>153954597
kek

>>153954446
Nah.

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>>153954470
>Encoded signal (Threat: 3)
>Wait aren't these supposed to be 0?
>AI relics canister surrounded by 8 vultures
>"Can't believe that worked"

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>>153954709

>”It says here in the Death Adder details that with the comm array and relay combo they can see the movement of task-active TEST ships as they Q-travel to other active comm arrays covered areas. They don’t appear frantic enough to warrant caution on our parts yet. It works in our favor that TEST keeps all of their comm arrays active and well.”

>It came almost immediately after we finished a short discussion on how our aliases trick comm arrays.
>”Major Mission update! Renegade, err, Shockwave group confirms… well fuck me sideways, they confirm Idris dead along with 2 corvettes, 20 fighters, 5 bombers, and 3 logistical craft. Apparently the Idris group was more heavily stacked than anticipated, but they’re still holding a line at Alpha Belt, 200km away from comm array 103. TEST Quantum jumps are beyond frantic and Gamma belt base is certainly notified of the invasion at this point.”
>”What are the orders?” asked Shell
>”It says here that BLAST main force is currently jump driving into the system and that we need to follow the intercept path. We’ll meet up with Bygone, Code Gay-ass, Viking, and Rekt at comm array 301 to form our own combined battlegroup and block off incoming Gamma Belt forces at the comm array choke point while the other groups meetup with Shockwave group at a separate location to retreat and reorganize for a full push through the system’s primary locations with additional BLAST forces. Also, for the great success, our UEC pay was tripled.”
>”Hot damn, so I guess it’s time. Follow the strat, I’ll find a location for us if we have to retreat. A Crucible is no good in battle.” said Modified
>”I suppose your right. Everyone assume 3 - 2 - 2 for this Q-travel. We’re going in.”
>The Crucible travelled separately to a lone corner of the system while we pointed towards the comm array.
>This could be the death of us, but such is the life of a Private Military Corporation.

>[Quantum Drive Initiated].

5/5

>>153954883
This isn't how you greentext.

This is just copy pasting a shit storyboard you wrote up with memequote arrows before them.

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>>153953083
Theres so cold without you :c

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It's a shame the crucible is going to be relatively short range. It would be nice just flying around space until I find a job and then park it and take out my fighter.

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>>153955109
I only have the one Aquila image, comrade. Have a Khartu-al.

Is there a trick for finding big ships at High RES sites more frequently?

>>153949778
>the trailer already showed the srv rolling out from a huge lakon hangar

That's a surface access tunnel in a settlement.

>>153955131
>It's a shame the crucible is going to be relatively short range

sauce?

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>>153946812
>Polaris
$695, I reckon.
[email protected]

Theres a helpful chart here, too
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ojxR84DJlX9i7Zu0ZrYkWPhKQUYIcK5bx5Ia8fQgimY/edit#gid=1241080206

Seem to have a hardon for prices ending in 5.

Are you going to collect one, or are you melting to get it? Part of me wonders how much you've got in your hangar by now

dejavu pls stop

>>153955089
what's actually wrong with it

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maybe it's this guy

>>153956039
But why buy so many multiples of the same ship?

>>153954616
I dont have any problems with the fuel rats. Its emergent gameplay that ftroop hasnt frowned on just yet, its just immensly stupid that ftroop just expects people to do shit for free or for rp and cant make a career out of it.

The other half of this is that its an orginization of olddads that want to do it for free and cry on the forums about chinese gold sellers if you suggest player trades.

So fuck em

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>>153955847

I'm going to be buying one for myself ontop of gifting one. Right now my total spent is sitting close to ~6850ish iirc. Only about a grand of that is gifted.

Wanted a multicrew combat ship in the Reclaimer/Orion/Carrack size for awhile, not a fan of the larger ships personnally.

>>153956113
Friends. I think he also believes he can have AI pilot them for trading and shit.

>>153954881
8 vultures is not a threat 3

>>153956190
Damn son, well..

Thank you for contributing to the BDSSE so hard.

Though I have to agree with you on the multicrew thing, will be nice to get something the right size between a Constellation and larger vessels that can still have a low crew count but have some room.

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>>153956190
Hey, you're the guy people confused me for back in the early days of the merge, I used to post skeletons in space suits on /edg/, nice to meet finally meet you, fellow forgotten cosmonaut.

>>153956190
I agree with this. The corvette, at about 110 to 100m is perfect. The Frigate and destroyer are way to cumbersome and require so much more to operate. I'm also a fan of the Banu Merchantman and Caterpillar for these same reasons.

>>153950489

Getting to name an NPC was one of the low tier kickstarter rewards. That's why we see a lot of maymay bullshit.

Some are procgen coincidences, like a few stations they had to rename a ways back. eg: "Cock Ring" "Dick Dock"

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Multiple skelemans?

/scg/ truly has the deepest lore.

>>153956190
Want some crew in your Corvette? I only got an Aurora, I can clean your deck if you want.

>>153949987
I'd bet you're right.

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>>153956381
Personally what I'm wanting is the Polaris and a combat ship in the Constellation size as well.

A Patrol-Boat equivalent would be neat.

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>>153954173
>>153954346
>this is what citizendrones actually believe

>>153956190
How can an anonymous person be so fucking based like you? You are too good for this shitty world.

>reclaimer
>orion
>carrack
AND you have good taste?

>>153954709
>18 heavy bombers, 45 fighters
wew lad

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>>153956546
Let's hope it doesn't get too confusing, I don't want to adopt a trip.

>>153956652
Only those souls who manage to get a gift from me discover my idendity, and only they can become part of the ship.

>>153952086
Airliners have well designed cockpits for a lot better view than those MISCshits

>>153956657
Constellation MIS when?

Freelancer MIS is going to fuck people up mark my words

Why is combat so fucking hard in ed? I have a viper mkiv, everything a or b class and i still get gibbed by a fucking hauler.

>>153956190
You know you don't need to pay 6000 dollars in order to get these ships right?

Are you legit retarded or something? You're seriously paying 6000 dollars for the privilege of not playing the game and skipping straight to the end.

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>>153956892
Don't worry, I don't post skeletons in space suits anymore, I'm not anywhere near as cool as you. Last one, I promise.

>>153956972
He's paying 6000dollars to skip the grind and get to shit on people in auroras.

>>153956972
If he wants to whale out let him fund my game is how I see it

>>153956972

or, you know, CIG is going to notice that these people exist and ships will stay costing real money forever

>>153956946
>why is combat hard
>viper mkiv
>mkiv

that's why

Where can I find a hazres with tons of anacondas?

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>>153956972
The game isn't the ships. The game is the journey you take in them. I'm not too fussed what Cig spend my money on, just that it helps them.

>>153946812
I'm going to guess 1250, taking into account original price of Idris and ship inflation.
Thanks, skele-bro!!
[email protected]

>>153957131
go to hazres in high pop system
look around, do you see any anacondas after 2 minutes?
If no, jump out and jump back in to reset the instance until you do see anacondas. Then don't leave the instance.

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>>153956946

For small fighters the Vipers turn like absolute dogshit, but still, getting outplayed by a Hauler...

>>153957131
in ur mum lel

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Has any actual gameplay been added to Elite:D since Powerplay?

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>>153957123
undoubtedly, actually, which means it's going to be as pay to win at launch as it is now

>a game where you win by giving the developer all of your money

>>153957324
NPC were made into bastards with RNG upgrades that could take you hundreds of hours to get the shit to try to get and perfect power and throttle control that make them look like cheating bastards

>>153957127
>>153957298
I had an eagle at first but i got fucked even harder. I think ill just stick to the type-6...

>>153957262
it's a space sim, the journey you take is from a shitcan on the ass end of nowhere with 100 credits to a big ship worth millions of credits through progressively more difficult missions that require you to upgrade and customize your ship

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>>153957123
>>153957332
Maybe the glory of the racetrack will remain pure
nope

>>153957332
>undoubtedly, actually, which means it's going to be as pay to win at launch as it is now

So not really P2W at all

>>153956972
Whales fund my game for me. I don't see the issue with this. If they get bored, whatever: the development money is there for us regardless.

>>153956857
>>153956686
t-the killing was planned from insider info and spread throughout an entire asteroid belt in ambushes from lots of people in PMCs
pls no bully I just wanted to type ;_;
To add a little truth to it, Retaliators are utter trash at defending themselves and most people are shitters at flying

>>153957296
Huh.
That worked, thanks.

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>tfw poorfag that cant even buy Mustang package

>>153957296
>>153957731
Faster than jumping out, just return ticket main menu and then back into game.

>>153957534
> had an eagle at first but i got fucked even harder

Well, you could post videos if you want pointers on what to do differently.

Also the Diamondback Scout is a great fighter to use until you can afford a decent Vulture.

>>153957534
sounds like you just need to git gud then

the eagle should be maneuverable enough to not take hits basically

>>153957572
Racing started off as super pay to win

>here's our first of many great content updates for arena commander!

>3 tracks in one area with no AI support and you will be destroyed by players that spent money on the most expensive flyable ships of the time

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>>153957534

>>153957524
Nerfed, I think.

NPCs aren't as smart and don't use engineer upgrades as often.

>>153957753
top kek, that image again

But, get a Delta if you want a Mustang

>>153956857
If a truly massive organization put thousands of people into a single system, and dedicated groups of PvPers go into there hunting them down, it doesn't seem impossible. Probably more will get destroyed than bombers and fighters since not everyone is a combatant, but over the sizes of planets, asteroids belts n sheit, some 70 - 80 ships isn't a whole lot to be destroyed.

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>>153958037
yeh Delta or LN are my goals

>>153958037
>If a truly massive organization put thousands of people into a single system, and dedicated groups of PvPers go into there hunting them down, it doesn't seem impossible. Probably more will get destroyed than bombers and fighters since not everyone is a combatant, but over the sizes of planets, asteroids belts n sheit, some 70 - 80 ships isn't a whole lot to be destroyed.

I meant that happening in one instance

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>>153958202
We're at estimates of 450 ships/instance with possbility of 1000 ships/instance right now anon.

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>>153958350
the delusion is real

>>153958350
Estimates of legitimate and absolute madmen

>>153958350
>estimate
>possibility
So in actuality it'll be something like 8?

>>153958350
As a very big fan of SC, you're delusional.

>>153957829
>what to do differently
I would guess that everything. Tried flying backwards to get a few shots in but the only way i ever cause any damage is if i use the guided missiles.
I think ill try the diamondback.

>>153957843
yeah i think i may have been going against some retardedly high level npc's because i didnt knew how things worked.

>>153957992
I actually enjoy the trade things. Many hours in trucking sim so i can get comfy easily. fug what do i grind for

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>>153957602
didn't mean to spoiler that last sentence, but whatever.

>>153958202
If I were to believe Chris Roberts from a few weeks ago, with the instancing tech they're making, it doesn't need to be a single instance. I wrote it with the understanding that Chris was talking about instances being separate but having the ability to join together if need be so that a few hundred ships can be in the same area working from multiple servers.

Anyway, in my shitty greentext the fighting was spread throughout the system, primarily the first and second asteroid belts (Alpha, Beta, in SC words)

>>153958403
>>153958423
>>153958350

I refuse to believe them until they implement it for testing, but it's what he said.

>>153958509
currently 24

>>153958629
>but it's what he said.

It isn't though.

There is a reason EvE uses time dilation.

>>153958629
even if it was purely offline it'd be impossible to have that many ships on the screen in the first place on any computer, they're too detailed

>>153957534
You want a dbs

Its fun. 2 small beams 2 med multicannons. Have a blast

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I'm up to 120 mil, how many do I really need to get an Anaconda and outfit the snek for exploring and planets.

>>153957981
The 350r only had an advantage on the easy track. The med and hard tracks belonged to the mustang and m50 pilots.

>>153958792
>>153958835
this is exactly why I don't believe him, because I also don't believe it's possible. CR would need to prove that what he says can actually happen by implementing it into 3.5 or 4.0 or whenever the fuck he can.

>>153958792
And Dual Universe which seems to boast the same goal for netcode as SC is deliberately going to abstract a lot of combat so that it'll handle the players.

The manually aimed guns, ""fidelity"" and physics in SC are not compatible with the scale they hope for, no matter how many servers work together.

Bandwidth will be the bottleneck

>>153958835
No, thats a retarded point to argue about. LoDs and clientside rendering are the easiest thing to deal with, that wouldn't be an issue at all.

>>153958615
Asp is probably the most multirole multirole ship. Thing it does best is exploring because of it's long jump range, but it's a better freighter than the type-6 and has more firepower and shields than a viper.

A step below it in price is the diamondback explorer which is more or less the same but smaller and slightly less maneuverable.

Above it comes the clipper but that's large pad only. Above the clipper is the python that does everything except long range well, it's also the largest cargo capacity of a "medium" ship.

Given your budget, I'd consider a sidegrade to an a rated cobra mk3 (DO NOT GET A COBRA MK4) or a mostly A and D rated diamondback explorer while working towards an asp scout with an A rated FSD, D everything else so you can do long distance courier missions and buy whatever ship you want.

>>153959101
a ship is much more than just polygons

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Why there's no origin cargo ships with leather seats and space jacuzzi? :c

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>>153958894
the anaconda is a freighter

>>153959431
Yes, and

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What's the best ship for drifting?

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>>153958894
https://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/0p0tiFklndksxf5--------0202------3hv21111----432i2f.AwRj4yVTjnJA.Aw18ZlA=
Click on "Standard", select "planetary explorer". And your answer is a fuck ton of money.

Asp is also a snek with long range and can also explore planets. Low ground clearance though so it's sometimes hard to get the rover back in.

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>>153959401
RSI has a monopoly on hot tubs.

>>153946812
My guess is $800 for military version and $650 for civilian version

[email protected]

>>153959545
Cutlass

>>153955131
>TOP GUN

>>153959545
Gladius.

>>153959640
>>153959708
Can I deliver pizzas in it?

>>153959630
>slav guns
Ew.

>>153959562
Thanks. I have my asp already but I just use it for space trucking mostly and I want to be done with it more and more. Plus looking at the gold skin on it reminds me of how much of a dumb goy I was pre-ordering Horizons to begin with.

>>153959875
golden anaconda is the symbol of a true visionary

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Pooraura looks best for drifting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRbhLtjOiRc

>>153959401
They're making a 600 series ship. Hopefully it will have a cargo variant instead just being useless roleplay fluff.

>>153958615

Flying backwards and facetanking is not something you should normally resort to in a small fighter. You should be using lateral thrusters constantly to strafe around your opponent. If they actually get all the way past you, speed in the blue zone, pitch hard and turn flight assist off briefly, just long enough to flip your ship over.

>>153959545
The aurora LN.

>>153959545

Federal Driftship

>>153946812
$850 for base variant
$1000 for the military variant
[email protected]

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>>153960059
>>153959875
I'd get a silver/chrome paint job for any ship if they sold it. Gold paint is actually reflective so a golden asp landed on a panet will reflect the black sky and stars on the top and the planet colour on the bottom.

Chrome paint job for a fed corvette is probably the only thing I'd pay for.

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>>153960191
>wanting more cargo or Luxury ships right now
NO

fuck you. We have a shitload of cargo ships at literally all sizes. We need more career specific ships to fill the current gaps like: a REAL starter salvage ship, small refueling ship, medium salvage ship, medium mining ship, small repair/rearming ship, and the Boomslang, Brutus, and a fixed Redeemer. Exploration/science, Luxury, cargo, military, and mobile trade already have enough ships.

All the people in this thread who think CIG will sell the Corvette for a semi reasonable price are hilarious. These are the same CIG who just sold a small useless crate of a ship that can't actual do any of it stated roles for 195.

>>153960768
>a REAL starter salvage ship
Cutlass seems pretty good for that role. Integrated tractor beam and all that.

I'm not sure a "small" refuelling ship is even worth it though.

>>153960768
>origin
>not luxury ship
)

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>>153950489
>mostly harmless

>>153959839
american military stuff is shit

>>153960768
>niche shit

No.

The manufacturers do need to have their lineups filled out with general purprose ships from cutlass to connie size.

Hauling cargo can be their base state, thanks to hand tools being the starter for most careers like salvage and mining

>>153960768
We have almost nothing at the freelancer and connie sizes. There's a billion small ships, and then everything else is large as fuck. Even the ships were going to be in that size tier like the starfarer and catapillar ballooned up.

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>Last I played was just after getting an e-mail from the visionaries that they were going to delete my duped fleet of A-equipped ships
>never logged in since I got it
>probably a year or so ago
>reinstalling now to see if anything has happened to E:D worth exploring

I don't even know how much money I have, or if I'll have any ships left.

>>153961269
I told you going bigger than the connie was a mistake

people don't know what they want, big ships sound "fun" until you actually have to fly/afford them

>>153961232
>slav gets told his guns are shit
>immediately reees at America

Typical slav.

H&K G3A3 a best

>>153961368
>I told you going bigger than the connie was a mistake

It wasn't.

That anon is just saying we need more midsizes.

>>153961354
How did you dupe ships?

>>153961232
At least its not trying to kill you, when you use it.

>>153961456
why do you think there aren't more ships at that size? because even one big ship takes as much effort as a dozen of those, they focused on what was demanded, not what was good for the game

>>153960921
anon, they're going to find a way to make it useful somehow.

>>153960975
I mean a salvage ship that can grind ship materials like the Reclaimer for pure salvage material. Tractor beams will be able to be on turrets, so really can ship with a manned turret can do a better job than the cutlass.

And yes small refueling ships will be useful. They haven't defined the jump point sizes yet for each ship, but there's no guessing on that the Starfarer not fitting in a small one, so having a small refueling ship, even if it's integrated with a repairing ship to share 2 roles in one, will be very useful for small groups looking to expand their journey distance without having to find some massive commercial fuel refinery.

>>153961368
wrong. You can stay with small ships all you like - we have plenty, but don't try to assume how others want to play because I can assure you the challenge of effectively running a large ship is something many of us are willing to undertake to feel accomplished in SC.

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>>153961435
>best

>>153958894
150M is a decent trader build for the conda

for an explorer build, well... let's say the fuel scoop you'll want costs 90M

>>153961435
>Not being a FAL PAL

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>>153961473
Ships and modules didn't cost more than a couple thousand credits for me after some friends told me to do a specific exploit with the newly released powerplay.

I could sell them back at full price and logged out for the last time with, I think, a few billion in the wallet.

>>153959431
>anaconda
>750t

yeah right

>>153961680
>they're going to find a way to make it useful somehow.
Nah, they'll just call it a starter and leave it shit.

They can't balance their way out of a wet paper bag

>>153961726
I hope we never get rid of our bullpup, just to avoid being like the French.

>>153961780
Neat, never heard of it until now.

>>153959185
i have a type6 and a viper4 with a lot of overpriced shit.
Gona replace the viper with one of the diamondbacks

>>153961618
>why do you think there aren't more ships at that size?

because they've been focusing on the smaller ships they can efficiently and quickly get into our hands, and work with the current multicrew/netcode.

>because even one big ship takes as much effort as a dozen of those

You have no idea.

>>153961873
Anaconda is an ancient 600+ year old ship, maybe FSDs are bulkier than the old witchspace jump drives they used back in the 3000's.

>>153961929
I don't think anybody but us found out about it until I got patched after a few hours.

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>>153961938
Can't recommend the diamondback scout enough as a direct upgrade to the viper/viper4. It's a wonderful ship.

>>153961618
>they focused on what was demanded, not what was good for the game

hey look, it's another anon who thinks he knows better than many professional, seasoned game developers on how to make their game

>>153961921
it's not a starter ship anymore. Either way, I personally don't know how they'll do it, but one thing they can do is give it basically the most powerful radar available for small ships up until the corvette or something. That'll make it useful for military shit, but they will find a way.

Also I just realized it slightly resembles the Vulture of halo wars

>>153962059
>justifying reboot changes with lore

In ED the conda is a multipurpose. Freighters in ED are literally helpless in combat

It a good time to get into Elite? Been standing back to see how it evolved over time, and with planets and multiple pilot coming in its starting to look interesting.

>>153962427
It's getting a big update in october, but I'd wait until a sale or they announce what the next DLC will be.

>>153962427
No.

>>153961618
armchair developer makes pointless statement about things he knows nothing about and can't change either way

News at 11

>>153962427
please don't waste your money. Grind is the game itself.

This is your warning.

>>153961924
>liking ancient slav technologies

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>>153961354
Welp.

250 million in the wallet.

how come no 10 for the_____ in so long reeeee

>>153962541
>>153962276

delusional fanboys with not the first idea of how games are made appeal to authority

>>153962840
10 for the janitor
10 for the guy who has to re-do the damage model countless times since 2013
10 for the bugsmasher guy

>so we have a question here from...
>ok you know what, i just can't any more. nobody cares. stop.

>>153959545
merlin

most thrust is forward for maximum oversteer

>>153962992
I'm bored so I don't care

10 for the guy who installed space door
10 for the ben

>>153961921
They'll nerf the freelancer DUR, Cutlass Red, and 315p so that the Terrapin is the only real low level S&R/exploration option no matter how inadequate it is at doing it.

>>153961486
like the F35

>>153963307
10 for the Sandi

>how many coffee machines did you buy? and do you think it's ethical?
>how much did you spend on the space door?
>do you have any plans to implement space doors in every single office room?

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So far I haven't seen anything that would imply otherwise, but it doesn't seem like we'll be able to sneak up on cargo ships as they're traveling and steal their cargo without them realizing

>>153962971
and what are you going to do about it, anon? They're making large ships. Either you accept that fact, or just don't get into SC because it will not cater to your needs. The game already doesn't do that at its early state, but complaining "bohoooo they're making things I don't liiike" will change absolutely nothing and we will move on.

There's a pastebin of other games in the OP. Check there for games that might have what you want, but it isn' SC.

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>>153963397
Still better than russian garbage.

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>>153963397

>>153963660
fuck no. Why do you think this would be a good idea? Also it's impossible anyway. Any hauler that's not in the most heavily defended system will have at the very least a small escort. To avoid detection you would have to: release no ship emissions, and also be completely invisible since we can see ships from thousands of meters away.

>>153963941
>Why do you think this would be a good idea

GAMEPLAY

>>153963941
also it would require the cargo ships to have absolutely no idea what's going on with their cargo

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Does anyone have the picture of Braben and Roberts, asking how many layers of alpha they are on? I think it's funny.

>>153963660
well, if you can somehow manage to both disable the cargo locks and disable all of the ships HUD without the people inside noticing, I suppose you would be able to steal them like that
I very much doubt that when it comes to haxxoring things that individual alarms will be a thing, it's more likely to just be one alarm thing to hack, one control thing, etc

>>153964051
No. The gameplay needs a way for people to have issues, and also a possibility to counter them. Being completely undetectable and also being able to steal from cargo ships while undetectable would be game breaking. I'm glad CIG was smart enough to see this as well. The most we will get are ships harder to detect through emissions, but that's it.

>>153958350
I heard CR talking about a hundred ships in one instance, which personally I'd be happy with.

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>>153964279
>Being completely undetectable and also being able to steal from cargo ships while undetectable would be game breaking.

Undetectable to the cargo ship.

Almost like.. you need

escorts? or something?

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>>153963819
Why is there no distinctly Ruski manufacturer in SC.
нapoднoй aэpoкocмичecкoй кopпopaции
All made in dark matt grey with crumbling dark red cyrillic paint work.

>>153964401
>war breaks out between 2 orgs
>server crashes

great

>>153964279
>Completely undetectable

Well of course there would be measures in place to try and detect them. Gameplay features. Cargo being stolen in one way and one way only, by fighting/destruction is boring as fuck. Why wouldn't you want to have potential for stealth gameplay?

Not to mention if someone doesn't know what's happening with their cargo, that's their problem. Maybe NPCs monitoring the Cargo constantly would be a thing.

>>153964189
>>153963941
>>153963660
>sneakily steal a brand new ship from a cargo hauler
>no fuel
>drift in your new 300i aimlessly in space
>get rescued by police or pirates
>WASTED

>>153962497

Thanks for the reply, i spose ill take this is as the most optimistic, ill wait for a sale then, at least then i wouldnt be out too much.

>>153964538
Vanduul.

>>153964538
because Robert has shit taste and worships murican manufacturers

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>>153964401
I remember that. I also remember him saying that there would be separate instances in bigger ships, so that potentially there could be hundreds of players in the same space (like 2 Bengals fighting each other).

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>>153964648
>Best

>>153964592
Or maybe your ideas are shit, stealth has other uses, and what you want will not be in the game for what should be obvious reasons?

>>153964828
the interiors of multicrew ships are indeed rendered separately.

As stated far above, I will hold my breath on their words about instancing until they can prove that it's possible by releasing the technology to the backers for testing. Until then they're full of shit.

>>153964590
Servers could handle that, our computers couldn't

>>153961680
>And yes small refueling ships will be useful. They haven't defined the jump point sizes yet for each ship, but there's no guessing on that the Starfarer not fitting in a small one, so having a small refueling ship, even if it's integrated with a repairing ship to share 2 roles in one, will be very useful for small groups looking to expand their journey distance without having to find some massive commercial fuel refinery.
I genuinely want a Starfarer so I can fly around as a mobile refueling station, call it the "Axiom Valdez"

>>153964828
Those elevator launch pads look really sweet.

>>153964524
What is being described would require fucking star trek cloaking devices. Stealth in SC is just radar reduction. Even a cargo ship's sensors would detect you by the time you reached tractor beam range.

>>153964538
>pic with russian insurance agency

>>153964668
Also look up Hellion. There's a lot of nice space games coming out in 2017, everything in 2016 is a "work in progress".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trxgo32nGNU
Hellion's focus is going to be space, space legs and some base building, no planets.

>>153965071
>Or maybe your ideas are shit

Maybe you're just a faggot?

>>153966043
Who do you think replaces your ship, when it disintegrates on you in quantum drive?

>>153966002
Did you read this, anon?
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14926-Design-Notes-Electronic-Warfare

Because what it describes - passive / active scanning, background levels of emissions, and DIRECTIONAL radars - make it feasible for such things to be done, under the right circumstances.

>>153966137
Stealth will be relegated to things like ambushes and making missiles miss more often >implying they ever hit anyway But cloaking in a game like SC where shit is supposed to matter will be broken as fuck and abused. Designing shit to counter that kind of mechanic would be unnecessary when they could do what they're already doing.

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>>153966086
>Hellion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yZ1m1VRIkI

Awww yeah racing music.

>>153966593
>Not wanting to stealth up to an Idris, board them without them realizing it and try to sneakily take out the ship's crew with your crack team of professional mercenaries

Shiggy. So far the only thing I'm getting from this conversation is that you want one style of play. Guns blazing in every situation.

>>153966618
I'm looking forward to so many 2017 games it's not funny. Heck, when's subnautica going to come out. Also can't wait for "the mandate" because I want my more-indepth FTL ship management game.

>>153966593
>But cloaking in a game like SC where shit is supposed to matter will be broken as fuck and abused

see
>>153966407

>>153966782
I think stealth in SC could be cool, and the devs know this - they're even implementing Ewar, which i assume will tie into stealth, but cloaking will be broken and does not belong in this game. There's even supposed to be a very low emission tevarin ship called the Prowler that apparently is almost undetectable, but not invisible like what you want.

>>153967059
>Cloaking

I'm assuming when you say cloaking you mean what a lot of games call active camouflage and you're assuming that I want invisible ships? It can easily be something like reducing your thermal exhaust to make yourself invisible to radar like ED does.

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>>153967059
>CitCon comes around
>Origin 600 series is announced to be a reworked Boomslang

How would you react?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3FNjs6AWk

>>153967059
I don't think anyone mentioned a "cloaking".

>>153966797
>subnautica
That was so cozy
Shame fukken...
Exploration games run out once the content is explored and shittt

>>153967158
Other than the turrets on the stupid mounts, love that ship.

>>153967059
Not like people are going to notice anything that doesn't trip the old radar and give you a targeting DICK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Dvfs13fck

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>>153967185
>Exploration games run out once the content is explored and shittt

>>153967379
It's true chap, all species scanned and biomes tickled? Makes for lank a dull boy.

>>153966797
I'm quite optimistic about the upcoming space games, though. I just saw that Hellion was just a multiplayer survival game and since I don't have people I play with it won't be on my buy list.

I also looked up The Turing Test earlier, and almost bought it, except it seems the puzzles would be repetitive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVuQedQi6YA

From this video I like the look of Dual Universe and Mandate, looks cozy. Ship and crew management in an adventure.

Also I'd be hyped for EVE Valkyrie if it wasn't Occulus crap.

Also noteworthy:
CDF Starfighter
EVERSPACE
Infinity: Battlescape

I'd have also added Dreadnought except it looks like a F2P World of Warships clone. Boring.

>>153967158
I'd shit my pants. Love that ship. That would actually be quite cool - screencapping your post for future reference.

>>153967159
see>>153963660
Being able to sneak up on a ship and steal cargo without them realizing, in SC, will require being 100% undetectable, so no emissions or visibility, hence why I have a stance against this kind of gameplay specifically.

>>153967156
That's not at all like what the original post says, as stated above. That's already going to be in the game to an extent.

>>153967612
I've heard some fuckery about Infinity Battlescape. What happened that pissed people off?

>>153967641
>will require being 100% undetectable

No

Just a small enough signature, a directional radar not pointed in the right way, or a high enough background level of emissions to mask you. Or any combo of that.

>>153967751
Don't tell me that, I backed it and don't keep up with the development updates.

>>153967796
>don't tell me that

No, I want to know.

Can someone ITT who followed Infinty Battlescape to explain the noise i heard about it some time ago

&@(#*#(

>>153967641
>100% undetectable

Why do you make this assumption? Why can ED do stealth properly but SC you need to be invisible to the naked eye and radar? And what do you mean that's not at all what the original post says? My original post was me wanting to stealth up to someone, and nab their cargo. Nothing there says you need to be invisible to the naked eye.

Gorram Reavers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Loc7qX7FI

nice desu ne

>>153967760
>>153967990

Because people in ships and turrets don't have eyes to see ships coming from 2 km out, right? This is why sneaking up on a ship like the Hull series ships is impossible without being undetectable like described above. it is impossible to do that if you can be seen with eyes from turret operators or escorts, it is impossible to do that if you can be seen on radar.

This doesn't even take into account shields you'd have to get through in the end. It's a terrible idea.

>>153968173
EVE ships are basically flying countries.

>>153968261
>Because people in ships and turrets don't have eyes to see ships coming from 2 km out, right?

Point to me on a HULL where they can see someone coming by eye from the rear aspect.

>>153968261
>Turrets are going to be manned 24/7
>Ships have 360 degrees view points at all times when they're flying

Wew

>Shields you have to get through

I can EVA into a parked constellation no issue without dealing with shields. I did it yesterday. Do you even know what you're talking about any more or are you just being a contrarian dick to be a contrarian dick?

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>>153968173
This video just reminds me we need a Normandy-esque ship.

>80-120m in length
>role: infiltration (military ver) high-value cargo transportation (civilian ver)
>fast as sanic on crack
>forward firepower but lighty armed
>super low EM signature, even compared to fighter sized ships.

>>153967158
inb4 everyone asking for the 3rd place ships

>>153968793
>super low EM signature, even compared to fighter sized ships.
>80-120m

lolno

>>153945778
FUARK

>>153968794
It's unanimous that people want other ships than the Redeemer, especially the boomslang and that other B one. It was Drake.

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>>153968173
*wails dadishly*

tiny bab ships in dis game

>>153968793
autismus maximus aside, sounds sort of like a Happy Merchant

>>153968793
>role: infiltration
No, the Normandy is more of a Mary Sue hero command ship. We have the 890...

>>153967185
>>153967603
NMS showed that procedural exploration also doesn't work. I think a middle ground between created a core of content surrounded by extra procedural would work better than just one or the other.

>>153968173
Halo > EVE

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>>153969356
We have picrelated

>>153969418
Babylon 5 > Halo > Star Wars > Star Trek > EVE

>>153969484
Yeah but that isn't as nice or sleek as the Normandy.

>>153968884
>what is a stealth ship

Who knows, right?

>>153967612
Okay...
first off
>Hey guy-
fuck off

As for the games, Infinity: Battlescape looks really good, and it's the one that catches my attention the most.
Wasn't this the game running on Space Engine?

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>>153969393
good thing that's exactly what SC is doing

pic related is everything SC is supposed to have at launch. It's not much to muh 16 quintillion

>>153969654
>Okay...
>first off
>>Hey guy-
>fuck off

What are you even trying to say?

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>>153969356
> the Normandy is more of a Mary Sue
Reminder that the quarians mysteriously got normandy top secret grade stealth tech after tali returned to the fleet. She was also given her own ship and crew on her return. Strange that.

>>153969752
He doesn't like the manipulative youtube nomenclature?

>Today we're going to- (implying the surrogate friend is hanging out with the viewer)
>Remember to leave a like, comment, and subscribe!

>>153969801
But she's a THICC PURPLE ALIEN, so obviously she's innocent and everyone's waifu.

>>153969629
Not going to get a stealth ship 100m long with as low a signature as a fighter.

>>153969128
and yet the Brutus didn't win the 3rd place vote, I just expect to see much more demand if the Boomslang actually got in

>>153969895
She stammers and gets flustered, so she did not do nothing.

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>>153969801
>Trusting space gypsies

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>>153969607
Sleek enough for me.

>>153969890
>manipulative youtube nomenclature?
Manipulative? Hmm

>nomenclature
nə(ʊ)ˈmɛŋklətʃə,ˈnəʊmənˌkleJtʃə/
noun
the devising or choosing of names for things, especially in a science or other discipline.

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>>153945778
What do you guys think about flight controls in Star citizen ?
Looks to me even fuck huge ships can turn and drift like its fucking Initial D.
I'm not too excited about bigger ships maneuvering the same as small fighters desu

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>>153970028
Never sleek enough

>>153967612
Turring test is more of a portal+stanley parable game than a space game. I like the idea of Starships Inc because I'd get to design spaceship deck plans, sadly it's still in early access and I refuse to buy into early access after previous attempts

>>153970118
oh woops my pussy farted I guess
point still stands

>>153970197
I think they're pretty damn fine.

"Drifting" doesn't make them agile.

>>153970197
>flight controls in Star citizen
Overcomplicated. 2 modifier keys, and way too many to memorize, and unintuitive interface and no walkthrough/tutorial to speak of.

Saw a cheap joystick/throttle combo earlier that I considered looking in to but I don't know. Dual sticks might be fun, I haven't researched it enough to buy anything yet.

>>153970295
In your defence I often feel the same when I hear 'hey guys...' but this is mostly due to the terrible content of video game enthusiasts.

>>153967612
Oh, and if you were looking at in the Turing Test, look at Soma which is sci-fi horror set in a deep sea base, Pollen which is 80's sci-fi set on Saturn's moon Titan but it's unfortunately a short game and Solus Project which is a survival game set on an alien planet.

>>153970651
>Soma
Good call, but I already have it.

Underwater is just inherently comfy. Soma 2 would be great.

Wow, now I'm all nostalgic. Thanks, guy.

>>153970502
>"Drifting" doesn't make them agile.
Indeed but I feel like a the way the ships handle lacks a lot of "weight"
I get it that its in space and with no flight assist you can go in a direction while facing the other, it all good. But even how the larger ships handles unsettles me. Its tons of steel, it should take a while to get from full speed to complete stop ffs

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>there are people on this planet who don't want to play SC just to hunt and torpedo 890J faggots

How does one exist this way

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>>153970197
>Flight controls
I just wish I could get my fucking Warthog and pedals working. E:D for all its problems was at least easy to jump in and start flying with a stick.

>>153971139
SC 2.5 key config doesn't work for me at all. After about 10 attempts it'll finally accept my key input, and say its set to it, but then in-game it'll pretend I havent changed anything and be back on defaults.

>>153970197
they'll probably change them again at least a few more times

>>153971012
too bad that the tali and gladi are total shit

>>153962265
I have a fas and love watching the fdls driven by npcs spin like crazy in res.....but yeah the dbs is quite fun and nimble and suprisingly seems to have a bit more shield than a viper3 according to ed shipyard.

>>153970980
none of the ships have any cargo, fuel or ammo weight effecting them yet, and the starfarer is already sluggish when empty, the only larger ship in right now