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Last thread: >>153888347
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Are the darkmoon cards worth crafting as a scribe? Not sure what I should be making.
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>>153903581
Suddenly my Bartender4 claims my computer doesn't have enough memory to run, even with me deleting old addons, my cache, rebooting, and reinstalling. Help?
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Where can I get a good fishing pole without having to go through an autistic amount of effort?
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>>153903552

That's completely unsubstantiated. Simply going by probabilities, if the last boss of Nelths dropped a binding, someone else would have gotten it by now.
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Legion was a mistake.
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>shitter doing damage during the entire dungeon gets titanforged pieces

every
fakin
time
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So are DH Vengeance Tanks supposed to be shit, or am I missing something?
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>>153903765
lowest*

FUCK im so mad right now
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Why is the Immolation set so good?
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>>153903765
>It's 850 and with the stats that you want for your main spec
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>There are non-survival hunters in this general
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>>153903765
>dumpster the entire run
>43% of every boss health
>takes 5 mythics before I grt my first piece
>it's a fucking sidegrade

Yeah I'm fucking mad. Flashbacks of Wrath where the 2h axe from faction champs and the death whisper trinket never dropped across both tiers.
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what location in the background?
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>im rendering my qt blood elf mm hunter
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>>153903276
Don't forget my nigga Broll.
You know, the guy that actually did shit in the Malfurion novel.
You know, the novel about him where he does jack fucking shit for most of the novel because he's captured.
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does anyone else imagine their characters hanging out together
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r34 when
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>>153903940
Sell me on survival hunter. I have a level 40 hunter I could play a bit and wanted something different than normal.
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>get to Nesingwary
>sends me out with cute gnome girl
Alright I really want to make a gnome now.

Warrior or monk.
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>>153903950
throne of air tides mythic
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>>153903948
I did ragnaros in vanilla for my t2 pants HUNDREDS of times, my guild stopped running it with me eventually and I got thunderfury before I ever saw them drop

beat that
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>>153904035
All four characters I have on alliance are dwarves. I think they'd be buds.

>>153904058
>fem gnome warrior
Monk, don't waste the chance to wear leather on a fem gnome, lad.
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>>153904042
>teacher said my magic was the strongest
or we they say

they also run from demons
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>>153904051
It's the highest dps hunter

You carry around badass weapons that aren't guns

Traps
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OFFICIAL TIER LIST OF SHITTIEST DPS SPECS:

1. Ele Shaman
2. everything else

HOLY FUCK ELE SHAMAN IS AWFUL
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>play XIV
>actual stories with empathetic characters
>play WoW
>saturday morning cartoon shit

pls fix this blizzard
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>Get fourth Broken isle quest achievement
>Still 3/4 into level 109

FUCK
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why did they extend the range of all jump and leap ability by 5000 miles?
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>>153904235
>play XIV
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>>153904058
just be hunter and you get her as a bodyguard
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>>153903991
>questing with Farondis
>"wow he is obnoxiously powerful, wish I had abilities like that"
>later on get to play as him
>don't clear the quest for twenty minutes because I'm having too much fun sending everything to hell
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>you meet a qt 3.14 elf who wears a blindfold
>you two really seem to hit it off
>she's the perfect girl
>finally, it comes the time that you two are starting to get intimate
>about damn time, it's been years of blue-balling for you, elf romances move slow.

>there's just one thing, though.
>turns out she's a demon hunter, and intimate moments make her a bit...excited
>she can only be intimate in her demon form
>and she wants to be on top

What do you do?
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>>153904042
Be the change you wish to see in the world
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>>153904295
Fuck her? I don't see a downside to this.
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>>153904042

thanks for making me want something I should not
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>>153904295
I'm sub in the sheets so yeah.
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>>153904157
>leather on gnome
Alright then answer me this.

Monk or rogue? I heard rogues became big dicks this expansion
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>it's a you play outlaw rogue and get 1 on roll the memes and it ends up being shitty jolly rogers then you never proc for the free pistol shot so it takes you 15 years to be able to roll the memes again and by the time you do the boss is dead and you did less dps than the balance druid

Do not let this episode repeat
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>>153904385
>sub in the sheets
and sub-par on the dps charts my lad
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Please recommend me a replacement for >>153903709
>>153903709
>>153903709

since it can't work anymore
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>>153903940
As much as I love playing Survival, SV has negative AoE right now. Unless they change Expert Trapper to affect Explosive Trap entirely and not just the target that triggers it, I don't see the spec going anywhere.
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So where can you get relics after you hit level cap? Just dungeon drops and world quests?
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>>153904436
shut the FUCK Up
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>>153904396
I'd go monk so when you realize being melee with a 2 foot tall character sucks ass you can respec MW
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Anyone wanna share their ranking of classes in pvp from best to worst?
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>>153903805
>So are DH Vengeance Tanks supposed to be shit
Yes, literally a shitty Blood DK
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>>153904396
Rogue, honestly. Monks are fun but rogues are just retardedly good again. But if you want versatility, monk is the way to go, faster queues and all that.
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>annoying naaru chimes whenever I use zen pilgrimage to my class order hall
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>>153904042
Go ask the LiLi pedo general thread in
>>>/trash/
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>>153904452
yea
and get dat third relic slot for instat huge boost
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The alternate Doomhammer appearance you get for finishing tte Shaman campaign is fucking incredible.

Looks so good in game with the crackling lightning, and the lightning axe offhand.

The Resto artifact, which is the one I am actually leveling, looks slightly bigger and has more water particles. Guess that's okay too.
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>>153904436
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>>153904517
what a dealbreaker
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>>153903940
Because this expansion really makes me want to play ANOTHER FUCKING MELEE
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>>153904264
what's wrong with playing the better game?
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>>153904498
Rogues are good but people are blowing how good they are out of proportion. If you just want to pick a top tier go arms
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>>153904295

tell her she's an over-designed piece of garbage, smite her and resume crusading
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>>153904486
its the usual suspects plus dh
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>>153904617
>If you just want to pick a top tier go arms
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>>153904675
hes right

arms is never bad in pvp
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The first person to reply to this post with a 3, 5, or 7 will decide my main class for Legion, because I have a boost still and I'm an indecisive prick that can't make his own decisions.
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>>153904708
>PVP
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>>153904675
Arms is actually "oh they might actually nerf this really soon" territory. Hopefully it flies under the radar for the first wave of patch, depends on if people get their legendaries or not.
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my hunters bow is cool
and in my headcanon rexxar acts like vegeta...
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>>153904734
brewmaster gnome
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>>153904734
Resto Shaman
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>>153904749
Explain.
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>In a Normal dungeon
>DH is the only one who's died, and multiple times
>Has lowest DPS

Are DHs the new hunters?
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>>153904486

>Your anus is mine
Rogue
Monk
Warrior

>I create more spell particles than damage done
Warlock
Mage
Demon Hunter

>お前はもう死んでいる
Priest
Death Knight

>Feel free to rape me any time
Hunter
Druid
Shaman
Paladin
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>get paladin to 110
>have no idea what class I want to level next
I knew having all these characters would bite me in the ass
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>DENIZENS OF THE COSMOS

>VOID LORDS
>The void lords are monstrous entities composed of pure shadow energy.

where were you when they ruined Warcraft lore?
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Dwarf or Draenei Priest?
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>>153904795
>come to 4chan
>expect to get spoonfed
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>>153904708
nobody gives a shit about toddler games
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>>153904734
Priest
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>>153904797
Considering DH's are BadRouges
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Goats are good!
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>>153904787
>>153904734
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>>153904787
I fucking hate myself now.

Completely unrelated note since I have one sitting at 100 that I may use as an alt, how are Hunters at the moment?
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>>153904797

They are the newest class, which is a type of hunter.

So yeah, they are the new hunter.
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>>153904797
No hunters actually became more like hunters by making most of the abilities are AOE now.

DH has a lot of quality of life stuff but they actually require someone with half a brain to pilot unlike almost every other spec.
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>Terms of Engagement
So fucking good
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>>153904864
>Goats are good!
to eat
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>>153904797
>Dying and doing low dps as a Hunter
Is such a thing even possible?
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more like demon... huntards
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>>153904852
>pvp at blizzcon: yes
>pve at blizzcon: no

lol
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>>153899692
>No one even thinks to contest this

Who the hell is there left to contest?

Goblins, who care more for gold than honor? Baine, who can't even handle the Grimtotem, and literally who for blood elves?

That being said, who the fuck leads the Trolls now?

I also half expect Vol'Jin to become a Loa and get Bwonsamedi's help to make more Forsaken for Sylvanas.

Troll Xpac when?
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>>153904934

Are you into that?
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>>153904910
shut up boy, go get brewing, you dont need to worry about hunters
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>my only mage at 100 is a goblin
>hate playing horde
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>>153904864
>yuro trannies are starting to wake up

Goodnight 4chan
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i want to wrap myself in cool blankets and sleep in a box that is sealed behind 3 locked doors
one of which requires a code to open
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Sitting here staring at the character selection screen.

I have a 100 of every class and I can't decide what to level first. It's making me mad.
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>>153905057

I've been here for hours anon
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How are mistweavers?
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how do i get the thunderfury appearance for my artifact?
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>>153905139

I leveled my DH first. Had fun. Then realized I only have lock, priest and dk at 100 and I hate all 3 now.
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Third faction when
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blizz???
helllo???
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SEND HELP
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Fellow rogues, where do you find the Marin Noggenfogger's Lucky Coin?

Is it from every type of pickpocketable mob or specific ones?
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>>153905263
neutral "faction" when
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I can't seem to output enough DPS as a mage in dungeons. Fire or arcane I just barely get ahead of the tank. Is there any hidden secret to this sorcery?
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>accidentally flag because Blizz put a fuckin alliance town in the middle of a mountain path that automatically flags you and has guards hit you for half your hp when you wander too close
>ride away from it, see three alliance riding towards it
>they stop and slowly keyboard turn to watch me pass
>I know what the fuck their lizard brains are thinking and leap off the cliff and start gliding away the SECOND a glaive and a moonfire hit me
>two of them take off the cliff after me
>except only one of them can glide so the other falls to their immediate death
>/yell lol at them
>their DH glides after me and misses their infernal strikes so I end up 50 yards ahead of them and mount up just before they can glaive me to keep me in combat

Retards like this are why I play PvE. On a PvP server I'd spend half my time dead because of keyboard turning 3s groups questing together just chasing me out of every quest area.
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How long after starting this game does it get good? These meaningless kill 6 basic bitch enemies or find 3 boxes quests are pathetic.
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>>153905416
This your first MMO?
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>>153905410
tldr
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>felslate has already dropped 30g overnight
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>>153905015
>Good leader but doesn't wanna do it Tier

Saurfang
Lor'Themar

>Too young to really know yet
Baine?

>Terrible selfish cunt leader
Sylvanas
Gallywix
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>>153905449
Yeah
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>>153903950
Vortex pinnacle. It's part of the shaman class campaign.
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>>153905526
Doesnt get any better
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>>153905416
>These meaningless kill 6 basic bitch enemies or find 3 boxes quests are pathetic.

dude, you are gonna hate this game lol.
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>X is casting Y, don't move!
>people move

>X is casting Y, hide!
>people don't hide

amazing
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>>153905480

>old as balls/doesnt want it tier
Saurfang
Eitrigg
Lor'Themar

>Completely and utterly irrelevant tier
Baine
Gallywix
Lor'Themar again
Panda guy

>Evil conniving cunt yet people actually know who she is tier
Sylvanas
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>>153904930
I thought they were braindead
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>>153905410

If it was a PvP server you would have eaten shit and teabagged the moment you even saw the base. If it was Emerald Dream you would have been thrown off the cliff in a body bag to see if you still glide.
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>>153905153
Why are there ao many trannies in these generals anyway? Like of the 12 people I have added from here 5 are trannies. I dont have a problem with it just curious
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>>153905575
Damn. Lucky I didn't buy it.
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>>153905526
If you don't like it already just quit now. That's the whole game my little friend.
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>>153905594
Eitrigg is dead, he dies in the Broken Shore scenario.
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>Ysera - no!
Wow.
Just wow.
I don't know how much more of this I can take.
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>>153905054
You have doubly shit taste my man.
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What the FUCK was slyvanas trying to accomplish in stormheim?

Was she seriously trying to capture a fucking valkyr for her own personal use?
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Patch 7.2: Vengeance of the Darkspear when?
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>>153905670
>t.non passing hon elf
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the more I read the Chronicle, the more I feel like it's warping my views on the lore
shit SUCKS
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>>153905669
a lot of people give highmountain shit but druid land is the fucking worst
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>>153905649

What no he isn't. He's sitting in org same as always. I don't even remember seeing him at broken shore, and if he is, he only got wounded. Dudes fine.
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>>153905669

Tyrande and Malfurion are Thrall-tier. I honestly think more people playing this game would prefer them dead than alive.
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>>153905326
No one?
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>>153905647
I guess it has a certain meditative appeal since it's so mindless. Just walk click something walk.
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>tfw gallywix will be a great leader for azeroth after he's older and the novelties of life have worn off
>like trump
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>>153905632
Whats the deal with Emerald dream?
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>>153905670
Yeah i know right who plays horde and if horde a goblin
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>>153905686
Something about dethroning Odyn for Helya so she could get more val'kyr to be even more immortal
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>>153905686
Only the Forsaken know.
Greymane basically sacrificed hundreds of troops for an unknown.
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whats the item called that's supposed to be the equivalent of aviana's feather?
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Finally, the armory has been fixed.
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>>153905710
t. Fat hon undead player
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>>153905669
>TYRANDE!!! WHERE ARE YOU!!!
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>>153905728

I hate Highmountain because, as the name would imply, every three feet of land is some abrupt cliff face you either fall off of and die or have to run five miles around to climb.

I hate Elf's World because holy fuck, Suramar and the drow elves are a thousand times more interesting than dipshit sleepy tree elves who don't feel like real people.
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>>153905789
God dammit. How the fuck would being an undead warrior even pretend to be lore friendly work.

>>153905796
What?
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>>153905686

Enslave valkyr. Ensure her own future and the forsakens. Same as always.
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>tfw cant get 810 ilvl
im not getting any warforged world drops
how do you get the last few ilvls?
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Danielle are you here? Danielle please respond.
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>>153905751

Combine the fervor of PvP junkies with the zealotry of hardcore roleplayers

The people who play on Emerald Dream would respond to a home invasion by picking up their lifesize Frostmourne replica and yelling emotes
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>>153905827

>NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>fucks off as a bird

I was dead for like 3 minutes. Couldn't stop laughing. And then the quest came where I had to find him, enduring both their goofy voice acting. Good lord.
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I'm really sad and really angry.
Ysera didn't deserve this.
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>>153905871
fuck that, how do you survive tanking in 810 ilvl heroics? DH tank btw
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I bet everyone in this general is an elf loving faggot.
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>>153905871
Know this feel my man, heroic dungeon queue needs to be 805
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>>153905813
I just said it was a goblin

Stop just repeating insults people say at you, it makes you sound like you're 4
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>>153905871
did you upgrade the class hall stuff?
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>>153905930
no I like spacegoats
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>>153905979

Good taste
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>only halfway through Highmountain
>level 109 with half experience bar to go
>haven't even done any of Valsharah
How are people complaining about not being 110 already?
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>lol sorry about dragon-lady, now where's my BELOVED MALFURION
I want to punch Tyrande in the mouth.
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Oh hey, homeboy actually being relevant instead of decoration.

>>153905930
Only night elves
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>dh tanks
>get one that takes literally 0 damage
or
>get one who goes 100-0 in 3 seconds every trash pack

feels like mop and monks all over again.
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>>153905886
reporting 5 duty
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We named him Rakeesh, it means "butcher" in Eredun
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>>153905930
No.

Victory for Sylvanas.
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pls rate mog
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Are the Darkmoon trinkets even worth crafting this expansion

I'm not sure how good the tanking one is, I think it's shit.
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>>153906080
what's she trying to hide underneath all that eye shit
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>>153906046
You're probably a DH, they start off about 3/4 of a level ahead of everyone else and you're probably doing bonus objectives and class hall stuff.
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>>153906080

>tfw you will never cum on her face after making fun of her low dps
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>>153906076
I feel the same way about paladins right now


on the other hand, demon hunters can't fucking ever take any fucking damage ever holy shit.
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>>153906107
disgusting
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>>153906109

Moonboots/10

Its fine though. Despire lack of glaives and some goofy horns. But thats my own DH autism.
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>>153904439

default UI
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Can someone just tell me what to do to get gear? I'm prancing around in Suramar running errands for skeletons but my item level isn't high enough for heroics, or even anywhere close. What the fuck do I do? Instances? World quests? Sit with my thumb in my ass to finish class hall quests? Kill myself? I have no fucking idea where to go to log in and put in some effort every day.
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>>153906080
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Trueshot Lodge for comfiest place in game
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>>153905906
That's odd because I've only been attacked once while leveling on Emerald Dream. It's gotten to the point where I just ignore enemy players. They don't seem to give a shit about me.

>>153906107
I like the Forsaken too but I gotta admit I don't like sylvannas as much anymore.
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>>153906109
>not using glaives as a DH

0/10
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>>153906167
>tfw no /wowg/ tranny to sit on my face
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Post your mog and r8.
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>>153906193
None of the characters stand out anymore desu.
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Has anyone gotten the ELE SHAM hidden skin yet?
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>oh shit guys they are complaining about no content at end game
>WHAT THE FUCK DO WE DO
>lol just make them do the quests they've already done except call them something new like world quests and hope they don't notice they've already done them while leveling in the zones LMAO
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>do mythics as destro lock
>only upgrades are 2 insanely mastery heavy pieces

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE this mastery shit reminds me of my mistweaver in WoD
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>>153906046
>>153906127
You sure? With my monk I just finished highmountains(my first zone) and Im lvl 105
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>>153906296
>destro lock
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>>153904835
You should grind AP and gear
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>>153906193
She'll probably make her grand return in a future patch.

By doing something really fucking horrible, because there isn't a Warchief to stop her, all while claiming it's for the greater good.
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>>153905632
Probably true. I have a lot of characters on Tich as well and in that situation I'd have been CC'd into the dirt, raped repeatedly, then piledriven down the cliff.
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>Exploring in Suramar
>Discover an unmarked wiggling cocoon in an ancient ruin full of spiders
>Break it open to discover a nightborne elf
>He thanks me and shows up later in Shal'Aran
I haven't had comfy base building feels like this since playing Suikoden years ago
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>>153906404
I don't really get how everyone is okay with her being Warchief. Or what the hell Vuljin was thinking.
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>>153906259
ye, gotta farm normal eoa
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>>153906220
Hideous hair. And a real Warrior wouldn't have a bunch of metal stuck in their face for enemies to grab them by. 0/10.
>>
What exactly is the twisting nether

is it just the maelstrom for mages or is it some negazone hellscape
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>>153905635
Cause we need something to do while we hide in the shadows till we pass :/
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>>153906490

Its the space between space where demons live. Its sort of hell. Ish.
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How are enchanters making money so far
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>>153903940

Why the actual fuck does Explosive trap not ignite tar trap for AoE and fix one of SVs most glaring problems? It's synergy, it would be effective, and it would be cool. It seems so fucking obvious to me as a design. Or am I just fucking stupid?
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>>153906220
zugzug/10
I like it
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>>153906543
fuck off Artosis
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>Exploring broken Isle
>Literally nothing here
>In The Lost Temple
>Nothing, not even enemies
>Get in corner and alt-tab
>Alt-tab back in a while later
>Fem Belf DH is standing on top of me
>Jokingly /me something like "puts his hand on your ass and gives it squeeze."
>Start walking away , thinking she's AFK
>She responds
>We continue to ERP me raping her in this abandoned, demon-corrupted temple of Elune
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How are mages doing this xpac?
>>
So I tried going to the discord for my class that everyone says to go to, but they were a bunch of toxic cunts, even moreso than 4chan is.

All I want to know is how long it takes to get revered with the Court of Farondis so I can get the hidden artifact for my marks hunter that i'm leveling up. From my own research, it seems if I do every quest in the zone I should end with Honored, and the rest needs to be gained through dungeon farming and world quests or something. But since I haven't hit 110 yet, I have no idea how much rep the world quests give nor how much I get for dungeons.

Can /wowg/ lend a helping hand?
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>>153906076
Tank rankings (from a healer perspective, from easier to most difficult to heal):

DK > Warrior > gap > DH > Paladin > Druid

Can't say anything about MNK, haven't seen one yet and I've done plenty of heroics, kind of weird.
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>>153906543

enchanted pen lol
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>>153906592
Arcane and fire are very direct, easy specs to play


Frost is a clusterfuck of shit for less damage.

(ok it's not that bad but it's a much more complicated rotation for slightly LESS damage than arcane or fire, this is because of the "utility" frost brings)
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>>153906345
why would you do dungeons or raids as any other spec? Demo is only good at stationary single target, and aff is only better on 3 target sustain neither of which make up the majority of raids.
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>>153906603
That's because monk tank is pure shit and gets 100-0'd by trash in less than 2 seconds. No one brings it to even heroics
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>>153903581
>FR Arms
that's fine I didn't want any fun with my carpal tunnel thanks blizzard
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>>153906220
>>
>>153906579


I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous
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>>153906592
Absolute garbage compared to other classes. Even hybrid ones are doing more in aoe and single target. Really a shame.
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>Destruction Warlocks during first tier of Cataclysm'

Look at them now. What happened?
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>wotlk was 8 years ago
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>>153906220
Brown/10
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>>153906739

>Cataclysm is older now than vanilla was then
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>>153906739
>tfw you've accomplished nothing since graduating from high school 8 years ago
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>>153906579
>tfw can't erp
i envy you
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>>153906739
>Frost DK
>Says that Frostmourne was shattered 4 years ago
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how do i get the thunderfury appearance for my artifact?
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It truly is suffering being a hunter main since vanilla in this expac. Survival is a shitshow with no AoE capacity, BM some how found a way to be even more boring, and MM has no pet and old SV leftover abilities thrown in.

On one hand I don't want to leave behind my oldest character, partly because grinding 70 exalted reputations was a fucking struggle, but I also hate what it has become. I might just go to my DK or roll a WW monk.

But God damn it those reputations are going to annihilate my ocd every time I look at my faction page...
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>infernal brimstones are 9k on my server

For what purpose.
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>>153906859
Just add anyone with an anime avatar, that's code word for they're down to ERP. Just say that you're new
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>>153906915
>>153906915
At least survival is fun

to me ;_;
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>>153906220
I like it, maybe change the gloves

I still need the gloves from LFR Siege, but I like it alot, matches artifact perfectly
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>>153906935
no i mean like i don't have the ability to erp
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>>153906479
proof?
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>>153906849
Same. At least plenty of my shitposts made it to the pastebins, that's gotta count for something.
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>>153906849
>tfw you couldn't even make it into high school
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>>153906915
>Survival
>Shitshow
ok
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Got this in Dalaran, anyone have an idea what's it all about?
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>>153906973
All that it takes is practice
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>>153907021
Now you need to tell the story
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>every other person says demon hunters are brainless
>someone says they're actually one of the harder classes

I don't know who to believe because the majority of you are retards
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>>153906737
>that fucking ui and those bindings
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>trying to do my artifact quest with 600 ilvl
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>>153904202
>tfw I got a lego for ele today
i guess im stuck until this spec stops being so fucking ass
i just want consistent damage...
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>>153907058
The DPS spec is brainless as fuck since its a 3 button class that's impossible to mess up, the tank spec takes actual practice to perfect
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>Survival hunter
>Shitshow

What's the matter?
An 8 button rotation too many for your BM ass?
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>>153906915

>Look at Talonclaws abilities
>The artifact ability is literally a copy pasted Fists of Fury
>Passive is summoning a completely useless eagle to hit stuff for a few seconds before you die.

Thanks Blizzard, but next time let me bite the pillow first.
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>>153906915
>Barrage is still the best talent even for single target
>still has awful AI and pulls entire rooms
>Sidewinders animation doesn't even match its radius and will also pull random enemies
>still best single target talent as well
>Blizz brings back Volley
>makes it fucking awful
Why is this so hard for them. Just make Volley like Rain of Fire
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>>153904519

i totally forgot about that hellhole

i used to go there when i needed some degenerate shit to fap to
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>>153903714
pls respond
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>>153905842

I for one, love the amount of cliffs and steep hills in legion.

Druid land was the worst though, the zone itself is nice but fuck druidlore. Suramar and Azsuna are my favorites so far. Only ones that feel relevant and interesting to me.
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>>153907164
>survival players trying to get uppity

it's literally the shittiest parts of warrior, rogue and feral
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>People hate on Survival hunter because muh no Barrage
>It's the highest DPS hunter spec
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>>153906482
>a real Warrior wouldn't have a bunch of metal stuck in their face
>Says this to a Snugzug
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>>153906915

Nigger, Marksmanship is great right now (at least in PVE). Metric fuck tons of damage.
>>
Sylvanas' new voice is just terrible.
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>>153907297
>melee dps
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>>153907164

It feels so fucking bland. There's no cool downs for big DPS besides the snooze fest that is Aspect of the Eagle and the rotation is waiting for mongoose to get back up to 3. And don't get me started on that fucking artifact weapon.
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Why are there so many quests where x has done something bad to y so now we're going to kill x?

Has blizzard not heard about turning the other cheak? How about an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind?
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THE POLL OF THE CENTURY
http://www.strawpoll.me/11158231
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11158231
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I've never messed with professions before but now I want to try them out. What would be two good professions to learn now that Legion is here?
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>>153907367
>implying 3 button BM is any better
>implying Marks isn't just worse BM
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>>153907358

I've hated it since they put it in. The way she says those old lines is so goddamn stiff and robotic. Fucking nasally too.

>WE ARE THE FORSAKEN
>WE
>WILL
>SLAU
>TER
>AN
>Y
>ONE
>WHO
>STANDS
>IN. OUR. WAY
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How's that artifact coming along?
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>>153903581
What class would you recc. I use my boost on?
I was thinking Hunter since I've done the Belf starting area so many times.
Mainly want to give Demon Hunter a crack.
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>A buyer has been found for your auction of Felslate
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>>153906592
fire is fotm and going to get nerfed to shit next patch as punishment
>>
Survival feels so slapped together. It's like a Frankenstein of warrior, rogue, and kitty druid. Yeah it's great single target, but the whole thing feels like a rush job afterthought. Even the artifact ability is just a monk's FoF.
>>
Did they speed up WoD leveling any? WoD was so shit I only ever leveled two characters past 90. I want to play them now but only if I can do like 5+ levels a day and blow through Draenor without feeling much of it.
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>>153907538
what am I looking at?
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>He fell for the fire mage meme
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>>153907607
At least you get to turn into an eagle when you die

Which is pretty cool but my thing with Survival is that in the artifact tree if you go far enough you eventually have to cycle Harpoon into your rotation because you make it apply a huge DoT

SURVIVAL HAS A BIG ENOUGH ROTATION ALREADY
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why did i go ele
why did i have to get a legendary
am i doomed to just play the shit classes because they are fun?
>>
how often can you do the nightfallen scenario with your personal withered army? i havent gotten it within the last day or two
>>
I've never touched survival but was thinking about it. Is it really that bad or are you guys fucking with me?
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>>153907702
whenever blizzard feels like putting it up because they don't want you to get nightfallen rep
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>>153907538
have you not slept yet
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>>153905613
With Havoc the devil is in the details. On paper the baseline rotation is braindead but the thing is that to do slightly above average damage you go momentum which requires buff uptime through a unique system of movement and that's more than you can say for a lot of shit.

It's not calculus or anything but to actually milk what Havoc has to offer you have to be aware of how things are playing out. Optimal DPS has you swinging around the dungeon like a monkey and shittier players will pull mobs or retreat into aoe and other shit. Even the defensive cooldowns require positioning or deciding if meta is better now or when things shit the fan (if you don't take leech meta you're crazy you can facetank bosses as havoc for that entire twenty seconds despite white attacks chunking you down to 50% each swing since you heal to full each time).

I leveled one first to cap since shiny new toy but I'm turned off playing it. It feels okay to do that but it's way too much setup and work for what amounts to whatever dps.
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>>153907760
The people ITT are a bunch of fucking whiners

It's actually really fun
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>>153907580
>A buyer has been found for your auction of Felhide

no one can see the fucking quests on their map, so supply is SHIT
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>walk into underbelly for a quest
>balance druid 2 shots me

ok
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Why is Velen upset about us killing his son?
Won't he just come back to life from the nether like archimonde and Jaraxxus did?
>>
I'm actually having fun playing my frost DK. I feel like a messenger of death pulling half the zone and watching it disintegrate beneath Remorseless Winter and Frost Scythe. Might make this my main. Just need to see how Windwalker feels before making a decision.
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>tfw engineering helm schematic is gated behind one of the suramar dungeons

why do they keep doing it? engineering is a terrible profession, the goggles are one of the only good things from it. first the reaves quest and now this fucking REEEEE
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There was literally nothing wrong with Vash'ir.
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>>153907760
survival is really fun and good you should play it
you can be one of the fifty of us
>>
On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst, how shit are warlocks right now?
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>>153907043
It's supposed to read that if you go down the main entrance into the Rogue class hall but if you weren't doing that it probably just bugged out
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>>153908031
Destro is top 5 dps in the game
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>enter dungeon
>see dh hunter tank
>leave group
>mfw when
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Survival should have been dual wield.

That is all. Goodnight.
>>
why do so many here play female toons?
are you that lonely for female companionship?
>>
>Be slowing questing around on my monk
>Monk garrison quest to do halls of valour
>"hmm, well, I am ilevel 800 MW, should be easy to run normal"
>Am Australian, have only grouped with Amiercan's thus far as MW
>Load in, notice my ping isn't 200 for once
>group of 4 pinoys
>Paladin Tank can't into skills, I have to spam effuse with enveloping mist to keep him alive at all times
>Rogue goes AFK in the middle of fights and says jeje constantly
>Demon Hunter doesn't say much, actually does half way decent DPS, can't dodge anything on the ground for shit, always has to have a HoT on him or he'll spontaneously combust
>Ret paladin asks for DPS meters after every fight and replys with "Ayyyyy" when he tops at 83k

I know I didn't have to post this blog...but I felt the need to vent, I suffer for these instant queues...
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>>153907807
q-quests for felslate? what?
>>
>>153908032
Yeah, just a glitch then, thanks
>>
>>153907807
Hold up there my boy what quest are you talking about because i'd literally kill a man for some felslate
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>>153908081
This

>mfw ranger classes in games that don't have a dual-wielding option
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>>153908107

We'd play male characters and seek out female ones if that was the case.
>>
>play enhancement at 110
>play feral at 43
>having more fun on the feral than the shaman
>>
>>153908125
>>153908134
There's a mining quest where you go and do Thicket

Chick gives you a mining supply bag and it contains Felslate
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When are we going to get mail tank?
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>>153908116
ur gonna love heroics then
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>>153907259
this
the only appealing part of Highmountain and Stormheim were the mountains. Fucking nonsense with trial bullshit--Vrykul tradition is so uninteresting.
>>
So why is "batle" misspelt in the Choose Your Artifact for Hunters MM artifact ?

Or was it just a glitch on mine?
>>
I have the artifact fishing rod wowg. Now how do I make sweet gold with my fishing prowess?
>>
>>153908107
i play female toons so I can feel like a powerful female who don't need no man
>>
been gone for 3 years, why do some people characters have bigger boobs, what have i missed?
>>
>>153908227

I had hoped the retard rodeo would back off a little in heroics...
>>
Started at high mountain; so far it's boring as fuck.

Are the other zones any better?
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>>153904295
I'm not seeing any downside here.
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>>153908312
yes
you'll be glad you did Highmountain first too--doing that shit last after burning out on leveling was a chore
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>>153908294
You poor, poor soul.
>>
I'm sorry but the resto Shammy artifact has to be the worst looking one. The upgraded appearance is only marginally better. It looks goofy, the recolours are not even options because they change the water colour, and the shield has massive issues with floating off your arm without a visual indication (making it look intended).

The raid appearance that makes the shield into floating stones, and the pvp appearance, are both pretty neat though.
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>>153908107
>implying im not a cute girl
>>153908210
revamp enhance shaman to be a melee tank that uses the elements to heal and protect themselves
then revamp ele to not be shit
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>>153908107

I might be an ERPing faggot that keeps a list of how many I've serviced but at least I don't call them "toons"
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Warning for those who want to become a Demon Hunter

If you choose your specialisation as Vengeance, then you MUST choose the Vengeance artifact weapon. I wanted to be a tank (havoc spec) but chose the vengeance artifact because it looked cooler and I liked the ability more.

By choosing that weapon, it re-spec'd me to Vengeance; I thought it odd so I switched back to Havoc, but when I got the glaives, it was the triumphant music and cutscen with my character voicing over, "I can't use that" lol. Now I'm DPS :(

I don't have the patience to create a new guy and re-do it all (even though it's just a few hours) for Havoc.

So yea, just a warning.

TLDR: You MUST choose the weapon of the spec you wish to use.
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>aluneth is excalibur
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>>153908362

nono, wait it can't be this bad all the way through, I tanked all through WoD it wasn't as bad, and more tards came back to WoW for WoD then Legion.
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Warrior arms or hunter MM?
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SELL ME ON SURVIVAL
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>>153908394

This applies to all classes.
Except that other classes lack players retarded enough to not figure this out themselves.
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>>153908409

also steals feet
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>>153908394
I know its bait
>Retards being retarded
More at 10.
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IT'S THE POLL OF THE CENTURY, FOLKS!
http://www.strawpoll.me/11158231

http://www.strawpoll.me/11158231

http://www.strawpoll.me/11158231
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>>153907090
just did it as a 570 druid lol..
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>Questing in Val'sharrah on fury warr alt
>Lock and Druid gang up on me and gank me several times
>Get on priest main and tear them both a new asshole for 15 minutes straight

holy fuck that felt good. I haven't done that shit since vanilla.
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>>153908582
>druid

literally who cares
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>>153907624
literally fly around and do bonus objectives and pick up treasures.. so easy
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>>153908195
where and how do I see it/get it?
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>>153908582
fuck off with your blogshit
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>Decide to start PvPing on DK
>Get into group and asked to TC
>Girl
>Everyone silent
>Get into BG
>Call targets
>Everyone keeps replying "Yes Mistress."
God fucking dammit..
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it's the same fucking thing that happened for WoD. I get geared during the first week now I have nothing to log in for but to do Nightfallen world quests and the daily chests for 3 weeks.
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>no reliable way to get to 810 ilvl
>literally just have to hope you get good RNG

baseline gear from normal dungeons and world quests should be fucking 810 and not 805

who the fuck designed this shit system
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>>153906603
DK is normally the hardest to heal

they yo-yo a lot
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>>153908732
this didn't happen
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>guildie shows off his fishing pole artifact in gchat

How did I not know this was a thing? It looks fucking badass
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>>153908732
Followup
>Three whispers from people and b.net/skype requests
>"You're a good TC, maybe we can run some dungeons sometime! :)"
>"Hey do you wanna go level some alts cutie? ;]"
>"Haha its so cool to meet a non-guy target caller! So how long have you been doing PvP?? XD"

I'm finally starting to understand the stereotype of why girls stay in the back and heal...
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>>153908752

I'm awful at this game and got 810 within a couple hours doing dungeons and world quests. I don't understand everyone's bitching.
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Hmmm
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>>153908182
>>153908081
Dual-wield bows?
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who /hoardingAP/ ?

over 21k AP just because I cant decide if I should be dps or tank. Kill me

also are DH tanks bad in mythic dungeons? I heard they are bad
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>>153908949
Vengeance is probably one of the best Mythic+ tanks because of their innate movement to help kite. Some of those modifiers require kiting certain packs rather than eating how much damage they output.
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>>153908858
ahym laa naa hmm hmm din d'lyaaah aaa
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> He doesn't mog he's artifact.
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>>153908705
>fly
Whoa there, buddy. You think I actually played that shitshow enough to unlock flying?
I barely touched Tanaan. I quit like 2/3 months into WoD, came back earlier this year and did some Tanaan. That's it.
I don't think I'm anywhere near unlocking flying. I think I have two treasure maps. Are those account wide?
>>
so i just picked up claws of ursoc , and reading druid tanks are bad ? ... :>
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>>153908949
>also are DH tanks bad in mythic dungeons? I heard they are bad

They're not bad, the damage they take is just extremely spiky
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>>153902745
Well since you asked
It was over an hour ago but here it is

>>153904762
At least we have one good DPS spec, that's both fun and has good numbers
DKs are just trash in general right now, and Warlock might have good numbers but all three specs feel awful to play
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>>153908858

>not a draenei
>>
So I reached 110 and I'm not done with Highmountain or even done Valsharah yet.

Should I finish those then go to Suramar?
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>>153909046
Honestly you can find someone saying everything is bad.
>>
How much money have you made this expac?
1.1 mil here
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>>153908840
>I'm an awful player and can invest a fraction of the time a good player can because I got lucky
>I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE UPSET????!//?//
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>>153909046
Warrior tank feels a lot more fluid and fun so far.
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>i826 rogue
>trying to look for mythic runs in group finder
>get always declined
Should I just level my SPriest instead?
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>>153909130
Unlock World Quests first.
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>trying to do stormheim as horde

I hate this
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>>153908081
no
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>>153908743
I just wanted to stop by and let you know that I enjoyed reading that comment in the sound of your voice
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>>153909163
DH tanks feels like both tank and healer will get heartattack every second pull
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>>153909145

Literally everyone I know was 810 within a few hours of hitting 110, maybe you just suck ass.
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>>153909142

80k

I'm shit and will never be spiderman
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>>153908752
Just do your class hall quest. The extra relic gives ilvls, and finishing it gives you an 830 piece, as well as some 810 pieces you can upgrade with class hall resources up to 840. I went from 807 to 814 just by finishing it.
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>>153909145
who cares
>>
>>153909215
I haven't played DH yet.
Are they spiky?
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>>153909251
not that guy but some class hall quests are time gated
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>>153907090
literally had to blow all my CDs on frost DK thrash fights
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>tfw no qt Draenei priest to heal you
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>>153909271
The spikiest of tanks.
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>people in my guild are almost 850

are these assholes rng masters or some shit?

what does crafted gear max out at atm? 850?
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>>153909145
why so mad laddie? its just a game
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>>153909145
You're bad if you can't get 810, its not RNG world quest rewards scale with your ilevel, so as you get more gear the level of the rewards increase. So if you reach 805 by doing the 110 normals and you artifact dragging you up you should get rewards 810-820 from world quests
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>armory not updated since wod

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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>He didn't enjoy highmountain

Literally what the fuck? Best zone by far, comfiest music after stormheim.

Funniest quest (except the one where you have to help that girl walk to her mama), most varied quests aswell. Nesingway is always fun
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>>153909307
I'm surprised. I figured they would've made them a bit OP like they usually do when they introduce new classes.
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>>153907137
lot of classes are about 3 button. As DH you have to at least pool resources and position correctly with momentum build
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>>153909297

>tfw no warrior to heal
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>>153909313
Vaelias? He's a sperg, farmed mythics with his group and got lucky in a WQ cache for an epic cloak.

Grinding, having your own group and luck.
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>>153909351
I've healed good DH tanks and by healed I mean watched them never need a heal because their self healing trumps what I need to output for the entire group.
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>>153909342
>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/RcvyxUO0beSVVBm2-rx2Gw/

Kill you'rself
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>>153909313

Completing your class campaign will unlock the third relic which will boost your ilvl quite a bit. That or they got lucky and found a legendary.
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>>153909373
LEGENDARY cloak*
fuck
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>>153908837
Aussies need to fuck off
>>
Any mods that replace Mind Flay with the old laz0r effect?
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>>153909297

>tfw blizzard will never acknowledge monara with a set like this in game
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Daily Reminder that Sylvanas did nothing wrong.
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>>153908067
Cute.

What's his name?
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>>153909329
>world quest scales
>just keeps giving the same gear slots over and over again
>do normals
>either doesn't give gear at all or just keeps giving the same gear slots
>farm normals/world quests for 6 hours straight
>still only 809

works fine for me ;)) ;^)
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>press button
>deal two million damage in an area
Can you do THIS?
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>>153909530
Emilio
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>>153909313
legendary + 3rd relic
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>>153906737

master demonologist/shadowburn from vanilla

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#IVZfxzzgxoxZxx0t

what happened ?
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>>153905923
You wait for DH buffs.

Literally the worst tanks in the game
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>>153906579
faggot
>>
>daily reset
>no new bet pattle word quests

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153909542
>buy class order hall items
>upgrade them to 830 ilvl

ez
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>LFG as a DPS
>Nearly an hour every single time for even a basic 5 man

Ffs, when will this pain stop? I just want a damn robe model for my transmog
>>
>>153909513
The only time they have ever acknowledged fanmade porn is when they called an area in WotLK "Snowblind Hills" and some of the mobs there "Snowblind Devotees" or somesuch, and even then that might have simply been a funny coincidence.
>>
Do the old horde-alliance translations still work, like 11 d d c comes out at ha l l o and d c d turns into l o l?
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>>153907823
lol thats a BOOMkin for you!

Just kidding. Here at the blizzard R&D we do lines of coke off strippers asses to pass the time. Remember your favorite spec? We change that every expansion to keep things as the kids would put it "Phresh"
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Honor talents seem so fucking broken.

Everyone will be one-shotting everyone else by the end of the grind.
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>>153905632
saved.
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>>153909674
Time to become a healslut anon
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>>153909694

There is another area or mods in Stormheim named Snowblind something, pretty sure it's just a coincidence
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>>153909578

fug forgot screen :DDD

>>153909407
its different on heroic and mythic

>>153909351
monks were shit at launch
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Should I keep the lil' mooer, lads?
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What role tends to be needed most by raids? Ranged dps?
>>
Can you xmog your artifact to another specs artifact?
>>
wew shadow priest leveling is fun
it's like being an afflic. lock without the pet
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>>153909251
how the fuck you could finish class hall quest?

I need to do 5 fucking missions and second one takes 2 days. If the other 3 I still need take 2 days each its GG
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>>153909178
don't bother, spriests are shit too
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>>153907823
>I let a boomskin cast for 5 seconds straight
>It's blizzards fault I'm shit
>>
SOMEONE GIVE ME A GOOD SHAMAN DWARF MOG PLEASE I HAVE NO IMAGINATION
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>>153907919
iktf. seriously thinking about droping engineering for jewelcrafting at this point. I wanted eng for some fun casual pvp but there are not even good items for that
>>
Anyone else not getting last tideskorn mission for the monk campaign?
>>
>>153909780
Shouldn't you be stopping dps to not pull the boss somewhere?
>>
I envy Shamans and Monks SO FUCKING MUCH
t. rogue fist weapon enthusiast
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>>153909875
counter the threats that increase mission time
>>
>>153909975
no you dont
t. ele shaman player
>>
what is the worst tank and why is it everything but warrior
>>
>>153909910

new moon is half a second and half moon is a little over 1 second depending on how much haste they have (which is a boomkins highest priority secondary)
>>
Does my artifact power and talents effect PvP? I want to play some but my spec is different to the one I have been leveling up.

Secondly, are all stats balanced, or just the ones I am wearing? For example, do I still make haste my priority or does just the ilvl matter?
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>>153910003
It's really about being impossible to mog daggers and swords into fist weapons.
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>>153909934
>>
I'm still only lvl 105. Since release I've had to work 10 - 15 hour shifts every day, not much time to play. Currently at work until 7am and have to come back to work 4pm to 7am again. I feel like I'm missing out on so much fun right now, and I'm going to be way behind :(
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>>153910048
>750k dps
>against a player
wew laddie
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>>153907463
Her voice acting in Broken Shore and Stormheim was really good tho
>>
>>153907058
The Momentum based builds are spastic as fuck and require very good positional skills to not get fucked by standing in bad shit.
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>>153903581
>putting guilds in the op

please can we stop this, its just making it shit for everyone
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>>153909959
Thats why I went for master demonologist build (-30% generated threat). Being alliance with blessing of salvation (another -30% threat) also helped.

Without that warlocks were fucked threat machines with shit dmg
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>>153910175
Don't even joke.
It's the same garbage as in the cinematic where Varian dies.
>>
>kill forsaken in Stormheim
>a quarter of their death lines are they being glad they are dying
rly maks u think
>>
>>153910175

Its a lot better yeah. They finally toned down her echo effect too.
>>
How the fuck do I enhance pvp

I feel like I just get mowed down in BGs
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>>153910048
New moon is one second and Half moon is 2 seconds. Get good.
>>
>>153909875
I'm already done with mine. 5 6hour long missions, then 10 3hour long missions. You did take the reduced mission time class hall trait, right? You are countering the mission threats to reduce mission time, right? You are making sure you have all your followers available for threat countering selection when you send off a class mission, right?
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Well this zone could have been interesting.
But no, had to throw in some extra fantasy shit instead of writing an actual narrative.
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>>153910195
RIP Keyring
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>>153910243
They're happy Sylvanas can't cuck them anymore.
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>>153910195
>>153909780
>mfw nostalgia
>>
>>153909049
AKA the exact fucking definiton of a bad tank.


Not even Blood DKs are as spikey as Venge DHs
>>
>>153909115
How's the healer balance? I'm having a blast doing heroics as disc because it's intense as fuk. Are they a snoozefest for other healers?
>>
>>153910326
It's literally lorewalker cho, same VA and everything.

I would put money that somebody originally wanted Cho to paddleboat his way to the broken isles but it was shot down before alpha cause the writers thought it was too contrived.
>>
How long is the 1-100 levelling process now? I'm not sure if I want to use this boost yet.
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Why can't I ever get these things to work
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>>153910379
>being a paladin buffbot
i hated my life choices
>>
>>153910195
I love how goofy raiders looked back then. Back when there wasn't just one set with a bunch of recolors for gear

I played vanilla but I was pretty autismo and never got to raid. Feels bad
>>
>>153910003
lol

t. enh shaman player
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>>153910261
run away, always be in back, jump in and dps then run out.
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>>153910379
>no warlocks
good times
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>>153910194
Are those guilds any good?
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>>153910379

>tfw no dwarf priest for fear ward
>tfw war tank fucks up stance dancing and gets feared
>tfw wipes on fucking onyxia while we are progressing naxx
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>>153910532
There are four warlocks in that raid.

What you're missing is shamans.
>>
>>153910517
hit and run one person I guess?
>>
>>153910440


No way it's the same VA.
Havi is voiced by the same voice actor as Hando Ohnaka from Star Wars Rebels/Clone Wars.
>>
>blizzard literally forcing shadow priests to kill themselves on a 10 minute cooldown in order to do any noticeable dps
>adding a lazy RNG dice rolling mechanic for combat that doesn't even let you cheat the dice
>warlocks in general (holy fuck who is responsible for this?)
>warriors are the only remotely decent tanks
why do you have to ruin everything activision, fucking why
>>
>>153910539
no idea about NA guilds, but Liteal Who were constantly shitposting before launch

and for EU, Neighbourhood is literally just a random guild that someone posted "lol we're vg lol" and got added to the OP

Wrench and RIPip are alright, but other actual guilds arent being included so we should include all or none

If we have all, people will shitpost, if we have none, people wont shitpost.

If people want to find a guild they can ask in the general and people from their respective guilds can reply to the posts
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>>153904017
Her ass looks pretty big in that left pic.
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>>153910494
fuck you
at least i have a lego
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Alright, I haven't played this shit game since early MoP, but i'm craving an MMO again and Legion seems to be good compared to the previous one.

Apparently they fucking destroyed locks and they are hot garbage now so i'm not coming back to it. So i'm torn between rogue or a monk. I was always played assassination, but combat spec have been changed to outlaw and i see people talking good about it, but apparently there's some important RNG dependency to it so i don't know. Monks seems fun, have good DPS and i could off spec healer for faster queues.

TL;DR Returning player, Rogue or Monk?
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>Mfw I see my DPS as Aff calculated for the first time on a damage meter against a bunch of Demon Hunters
>>
>>153910390
>AKA the exact fucking definiton of a bad tank.

But the ones who know what they're doing self-heal themselves right back up to 100, so its not that bad.
>>
>>153910719
They're really not that bad. Don't listen to the shitters on here.
>>
>>153910719
don't endorse pandafaggots
go rogue
>>
>>153910448
Wait, is that the alpha worgen model? SAUCE
>>
>>153910618
Oh I saw 8 druids by mistake.

also
>shaman
>vanilla alliance
>>
>>153910440
I doubt it considering that Cho is the AK research NPC for monks
>>
>>153904235
What were you expecting?
Blizzard has always been a master of fantasy cliches.
>>
>>153910736
>mfw you're probably some normie mode shitter so it doesn't even matter
>>
what do you think the subcount is at m8s
>>
>>153910326
I hate that fucking bird for hating me for no reason. At least you can kill him.
>>
>>153910618

Well yeah, there were no alliance shaman in vanilla
>>
>>153910052
can anyone help please
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>>153910781
>>Shaman
>>vanilla alliance

That's why you don't see them, sir
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>>153910804
>WoW players
>obsessed with their crack game and must know at all times that they are better than some other player and also that their game is """better""" than every other game

Literally psychological slaves
>>
Which race for a japanese name?
>>
>>153910804
Probably 7 or 8 million. It was at 3-4 million in WoD and I really doubt legion brought back very many players.
>>
>>153910736
Why would you play affliction lol
>>
>>153910923
nelf obviously weaboo
>>
>>153910751
And then you get into mythic raids and bosses are literally chunking you for 2/3rds your health because your baseline mitigation is hilariously shit compared to all other tanks.

As a healer I will always prefer healing Warriors/Paladins over Blood DKs/Monks/DHs
>>
Okay m8s, I'm leveling my proto paladin. Will light protect me in legion dungeons/raids?
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>You will never be a massive Tauren/Panda alpha male that rapes a Tsundere, xenophobic Nightborn QT

It fucking hurts, bros
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>>153910923
panda or any of the elves

or troll
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>tfw waifu doesn't wanna pose with you

how do i break the ice with Van Queef, /wowg/?
>>
>>153910663
Might make more sense to make a pastebin for guilds and include it rather than listing guilds directly in the OP.
>>
>>153910751
their self heal is horrible RNG based unlike DK. You dont spawn souls - you are fucked and no self heal for you.
>>
>>153910990
Cuckold
>>
I've run 9 dungeons and got 1 non-WF piece of gear? Am I unlucky?
>>
>>153910803
What would that have to do with anything even if it were true?

Aff is drizzling shits other than its survivability and soul effigy is an embarrassing excuse for an end tier talent.
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>>153910979
Yes. May the light guide you and your testicles
>>
>>153910924
Literally every single one of my "Im quitting for ever!" friends is back after the clustershit that WoD was
>>
>>153911002
That probably would be better, having an impartial person making the pastebin
>>
why did they take away the option to hide helm/cloak from the menu?

now, every new helmet I get, I have to transmog it away
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>>153910736
Demon hunters and death knights are both off the wall in terms of damage right now. Really don't know how that wasn't addressed by now.
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>>153910997
stich her father's head back on his shoulders
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who /ready4mythics/ here?
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>>153910924
WoD hit 10m at the start, and Blizz have stated already that the player count in Legion is 'at an amount they haven't seen in several years', which possibly indicates over 10m.
They also said they already had the same / more pre-orders than WoD months ago.

It's pretty much guaranteed to be over 10m at this point.
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>>153911039
u get rewarded on how important u r to the group, so get better!
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>>153910934
I've always played it.
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>>153911098
Not me since no groups want Warlocks or Ret Paladins.
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>>153910979
yes just like it protected Tirion

>>153910997
>tfw Kor'vas wont be ever your bodyguard

Instead we got shitty Akama/his shade and literally who male DH
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>>153911054
MoP had what like 7 or 8 million before WoD launched?

Even then WoD only spiked to 10 or 11 million I think.

I highly doubt WoD went from sub 4 million players to 10+ million in Legion. Nothing to do with the quality legion itself, the game is great so far, but people are just tired of WoW.
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>>153911098
Touch of the void says i am
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>>153911094
feels like an effort to get people to dump gold on the transmog mount
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DH Tanks are so fucking bad
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>retards in suramar city

you should be allowed to attack anyone without a mask, regardless of faction
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>tfw no simple black blindfold that doesn't have goofy glowing eyes
>cursed vision clips through them all
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>>153911121
>blizzard made vague claims to hype of their game, we can be certain that they were telling to truth

yeah, alright
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>>153906603
druid hard to heal? what the hell?
everyone and their mother has been spouting how op guardian tank is
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Convince me not to boost this

He's just so cute and chubby I want him to protect me
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>>153911202
Yes, I'm sure every thing Blizzard says is a lie and they cannot be trusted in any regard.

They will release the numbers and it will be over 10m.
Screencap this post so I can laugh at you.
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>>153911269
he's invisible and people won't be able to heal you if they can't see you
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>>153911150
WoD's spike was pretty big.
And all the more it sucking fucked the future prospects.
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>Oro had a wife and children
O-Oh.
That's pretty sad.
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>>153906579

>she responds
>she
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How do you get bonus rep from darkmoon faire
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Do you think she can feel my bulge against her back?
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I'm a level 95 Monk with 4 heirlooms

What's the fastest way to 100
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>>153911201
I understand this pain anon
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>>153911286
>Yes, I'm sure every thing Blizzard says is a lie and they cannot be trusted in any regard.

This is the presumption you should take with Blizzard, yes. I'm glad you're starting to understand.
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>>153911345
Do you get any unique text/dialogue in Highmountain for being a student?
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>>153911269
FORGOT

>try to post again
>embedded file meme

>>153911314
QUEER
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>>153911086
Yeah.
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>>153911286
But how can you trust their numbers when they do release them man??? *rips bong*
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>>153911269
You're supposed to play a cute sissy and heal a big panda tank
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>>153911393

Yknow whats funny. Some helmets just turn off the blindfolds/eye glow. But not cursed vision.
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>>153910990
>Panda alpha male
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>you will never level through outland on a demon hunter
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>>153911415
>student
TAUREN
why am I posting from a cellphone, dear god
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>>153911098
thank the lord i have friends who will take me as an ele shaman
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>>153911463
yea but ill never find anyone that wants me so might as well make the panda myself.....
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>>153911479
When they roll out scaled zones across the past content you can.

You can also be fucking miserable because outland is terrible.
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>>153906737
>>153909780
>>153910379
>Warlock in general during any time of the game
What the fuck happened? Has this class undergone more complete overhauls than any other class in the game?

And what they've settled on is this bland, copy pasted "Class Design 101" shit?
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>log in to check new mog system
>cycle through every character, account is capped on them
>find this ensemble spread across the whole account
This is what winning the lottery feels like. All that banked TBC loot paid off.
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>>153911447
Because they're literally legally obligated not to lie.
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So I put most of the AP I've got into my dps weapon but I want to at least tank some heroics if need be.

What is mandatory for Prot Paladin so I can tank dungeons. I have this 800 point item from Suramar
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>>153909515
>Allied with a dreadlord
>Betrayed the humans of Lordaeron and took their city
>Ordered development of a plague that killed several Alliance and Horde soldiers
>Allies with former servants of the Lich King (Valkyr)
>Starts raising people for her own sake
>Makes Southshore uninhabitable
>Almost destroys Gilneas
>Kills Greymanes son
>Threatens to turn Crowleys daughter into a forsaken
>Brings plague to Stormheim
>Makes a deal with the LORD OF HELL
>Tries to enslave Val'kyr
Your move
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legion zones powerranking

top tier
>azsuna
>val"sharah
>suramar

wotlk ripoff tier
>stormheim

whoever did this should be crucified tier
>highmountain

for what purpose tier
>dalaran

world quests are fun, i have to admit
for some reason i dont like to have quests on my map, so i have to clear them out but they just keep popping up
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How shit are DH tanks?
>>
Fem human warrior or paladin for tank alt.
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>>153911708
They're fun to play, are pretty good but they really don't look like they're good enough to be viable in higher tier raiding (I.E Mythic).
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Any other mages feel like there's a sudden huge surge of them running around?

I know they've always been the most popular caster but fugg the fotm is real. They're going to be disappointed when they realize we're not as OP as they think we are.
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>>153911663
>>azsuna
>>suramar

Have you even played these zones you fucking retard?
Asszuna is literal eye cancer and all the quests are shit and Suramar is just constantly repgated shit
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>>153911415
Not that I can remember, no. But because I have Talonclaw, the Skyhorn Chieftain and the Thunder Totem guards on the bottom deck have special dialogue.
Speaking of the Skyhorn Chieftain, when you first meet him, he asks what kind of creature you are and calls you tiny. It really fucking irks me.
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>Starting the Expansion just right
Feels good man.
Dat AH Cut
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>>153910658
>>153910790
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cummings

Same guy, if you've seen a different source it might be using the hearthstone credit but nobody in their right mind considers those canon.
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>>153911663
>Not liking Highmountain

You're a bad person
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>tfw death from above bugs out and sends you through the boat

maw of souls looks great from here
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>>153911838
should have just posted in trade chat retard
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>fury warrior in pve
>fury warrior in pvp
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what tank does the most dps for 5 mans? im sick of waiting 45 minutes for a queue
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>>153911345
who was Oro?
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>>153911560
that looks like shit laddy
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>>153911958
The Warbrave that dies from impalement.
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>>153911943
Demon hunters
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>>153911797
Both those zones are beautiful.
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what the quickest way to get nightborn rep
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>>153911848
my comment was more about Cho being part of the Stormheim questline

and like I said I doubt he was ever part of it considering he's already an NPC with a specific purpose in the monk order hall and considering the reveal about Havi at the end of the storyline
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>>153911775
>sudden huge surge of them
Warlocks aren't exactly in a great place right now and hunters effectively lost a spec as far as ranged DPS players are concerned.

It's no surprise.
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WotLK>MoP=BC=Legion>Cata>WoD
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>>153911551
warlocks in vanilla were total shit.

You were taken into raid for
>imp stamina buff
>HS
>SS for wipe recovery(or precasting it on bads)
>fucking summons which you had to farm items for
>Curse of Elements for mages

Warlocks were shit tier dps and if not for these thing noone would take them. Our 40 man group had 10x mage and only 1x warlock (to boost mages dmg)
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>>153912051
every class in vanilla was shit, save for priest, warrior, rogue and mage
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>>153912027
i fuckin hate wrathbabbies
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Any healer mains out there have any tips for leveling and questing in legion?

I'm having a bit of trouble doling out damage and it feels like it's taking a while to kill stuff.
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>>153912027
Vanilla > BC > WotLK > MoP >>> Cata >>>>>> WoD

You can't judge legion til raids are out, if you did WoD would be #1 since it had a great start
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>>153911915
I did, and no one wanted it. So I threw on the AH because I got shit to do in Suramar. That rep aint gonna get itself!
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>>153912108
Even non-healer classes are having trouble>

Some classes are just really weak right now. Spriest is one, for example. Disc and even holy do more damage than spriest in leveling by far, spriest only takes the edge in long boss fights.
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>>153912027
It's literally too soon to say whether Legion is good or not, honeymoon phase isn't over. Wait a month.

Wrath was only good in retrospect, by the way. When it was current, people hated dungeon finder grinding since it was a new thing, and people raided TotC for something like six months waiting for ICC to come out. TotC is one of the worst raids in the game.
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whats a good ilvl to start mythics at
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>Assassination Rogues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcC3AfKnHI0
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>>153912218
the minimum
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>>153912115
>the older it is, the better it is

you insufferable faggot, vanilla was downright unplayable. Just because it was new and you were like 9 and enjoyed it more doesn't mean it was good.

If vanilla was released today, same mechanics, same dungeons, same story with just updated graphics, people would massively shit on it worse than WoD.

You nostalgiafaggots are the fucking worst.
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>>153912218
820
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Why was this bitch featured as a main character on the Legion website? At least you fought Dargrul and Xavius in a dungeon and Xavius is even showing up in a raid. This bitch died in a questline.
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>>153911938
>not going arms
lol?
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>>153912272
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>>153912284
wrathbabby on suicide watch
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>>153912027
>it's a 'lets judge an expansion before the first patch and raid is even out' episode

eat a dick

>>153912115
>WoD
>Great start

Did you even play it?
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>>153911938
>Prot warrior in pve
>>
BC>Vanilla>Wotlk>Cata>WoD>MoP
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>tfw cpu bottleneck

What do I disable for GAINS
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Best legendaries for your spec?

>Here have a free battlerez!
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>>153912284
>I don't like actual role playing games so I'll just say they are bad because you like something I don't like

lmao
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>>153912405
windows aero
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>>153912360
Highmaul was great.
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>>153912218
>Tanks
Warriors/Druids can probably go as early as 815 with a decent healer.

Paladins/DKs probably wanna wait until 820~

Not sure about brewmaster but I've heard they aren't doing well numbers wise.

Vengeance DHs should mainspec Havoc.

>DPS
820 is the usual minimum but good luck getting in with that in LFD since any group with a tank or heals will have the pick of the litter among probably several 830s+.

>Healer
Can probably go in ~800s depending tank and party competence.
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>No comfy guilds for people brand new to the game
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>>153912367
Seriously.

I played Fury all the way to heroic gearing and now I'm leveling my prot artifact, and I can take on MASSIVE groups that would have killed me instantly as Fury.

Fury damage reduction/buffs fucking when.
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I just started playing wow today. Do I just do quest after quest or is there a faster way to level?
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Let me get this shit straight:
Outlaw Rogue has 3 finishers, and none of them are Kidney Shot?

I've got generic melee attack, generic melee finisher, generic ranged attack, generic ranged finisher, RNG the bones, two damage steroids on medium CDs, and then the usual interrupt, stun, vanish, etc. Am I missing something?

My bars are fucked.
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>>153912284
>vanilla was downright unplayable
The only game's that could even be called unplayable are maybe early Atari games.

By saying a game is "unplayable" you out yourself as either underage or just an insufferable faggot who literally just started playing games.

Vanilla isn't even clunky or hard by mmo standards. Go play EQ you baby
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i am starting to get sick with those epics from wq's. i liked it more when gearing up was kind of a struggle.
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>>153912434
>it's good, the bad everything just made it more roleplay heavy

vanilla was shit. go back to your vanilla servers with all 10 other people who are retarded enough to think it was good just because they can't move on, you autistic faggot
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>>153912425
I wouldnt be surprised if that took up a brez
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Is Whirlwind the best dps move for Arms or is there a rotation that i should learn?

Level 53 newfriend here
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should I drop eng for jwc ? Seems like I will get more gear from jwc and new eng items are shit

>wipe pylon with 5y range thats worse than item from WoD
>bandage gun that heals for 90k hp
>>
I want to build my own gaming laptop from the ground up since I travel a fuckton and I can run WoW on max specs, what place would be best for that?
>>153912360
Early WoD was fun as shit. Everyone was raving about how fun the leveling was.

Then when you hit max and got into the endless cycle of Garrison simulator is when it really started to sour on people
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>>153912523
you seem to have made the mistake of forgetting to include an argument in your posts

please try again
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>>153912523
>trying to bait Vanilla arguments in a wowg
Very weak anon. Very weak bait
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>>153911752
I'm doing Mythics right now and its a cake walk.
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>>153912539
There's a rotation.

Look up the Icy veins guide. It's pretty good.

Just don't use Noxxic.
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>>153912482
thats the same with every class between its tank and dps spec
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qt gnome
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>>153912482
They just need to get rid of the 30% extra damage you take while enraged and give us an actual defensive CD.
>>
>last class hall quest
>it's going to take at least ~3 days to finish
>I also lose my best bodyguard because he's the only one that can do them

Sol, I love you so much but I really want to just be done with this fucking class hall bullshit.
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Are world quests the only way to raise reputations?
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>>153907694
just disable your damage meter addon if you wanna have fun playing ele
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>>153912497
get rid of roll the memes, being shit 19 out of 20 times just so you can occasionally be a god once isn't worth it

And yes, the class is all about staying ontop of them and spamming finishers as much as you can.
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>tfw farming 41k/hr
>tfw going to have 1mil gold by next tuesday
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>>153912539
coll smash > mortal >slam
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>Malygos dead
>Neltharion dead
>Ysera__ dead
>Nozdormu basically confirmed future dead cause of End time

Pray for her lads.
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>>153912595
The disparity just seems so great.

With only one defensive cooldown and 30% increased damage it's hard to even take on one or two mobs in a lot of areas and that's even with decent gear.
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>>153912679
Good

Dragons are the most stale and boring shit in any fantasy game ever, next to elves
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someone deserves a punch in the face for this quest
>>
can I check my garris- order hall missions on app yet?
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Are there any UI addons that aren't shit
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>>153912679
It really bothers me that Blizzard kills off characters that they deem unusable. It's what happened to Cairne. Baine was supposed to take his place and have some focus, but they said fuck it and gave it to other characters.
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>>153904264
Holy fuck she got fat
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>>153912497
between the eyes is a ranged kidney that does damage
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>>153912506
go shave you neckbeard cunt

>ahahaha let me grind unarmed on this mob for 6 hours straight look at how much fun this is, I'M SO IMMERSED

vapid fucking cunts, every single vanilla wow praiser. seriously, fuck off to your private servers if the game was so good

>>153912581
You mean the same mistake you just did? And this faggot >>153912584 too.
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>people in mythics are hella cool and trade gear around they don't need
What nice guys
>>
>>153906476
The fel corrupted him and the burning Legion whispered to him - pretending to be the spirits of his ancestors - to set the Horde up for failure. They're trying to create internal strife to weaken the forces of Azeroth.
>>
>>153912808
>caring about the shitty childrens lore anymore
>>
>>153912657
How?
>>
>>153912657
what are you doing
>>
>>153912879
>Not having been playing for years and being unable to not care about the shitty childrens lore
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>>153912679
I hope we get to kill the stupid bitch

I'm so fucking sick of dragons everywhere

it's literally one cunt in Blizzard with a massive collection of Bad Dragon dildos who INSISTS on shoving these mary sue faggots every xpac
>>
>>153912817
Didn't even notice the stun on it! Thanks for pointing that out.
>>
>>153904606
I'm not a cutting edge mythic raider but I'd like to press more than 25 buttons a minute.
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>>153912847
>grinding unarmed against this mob for 6 hours
>grinding unarmed
Confirmed bait. Try complaining about consumable farming next time
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>>153912852
That would be a good explanation, except they're not even hinting at it.

The real answer is they're going to turn Sylvanas into a hero with a redemption storyline, even though she's always been a clear-cut villain and it will butcher her character and make no sense.
>>
>>153912931
That's the point, if you have been playing all these years why do you still care about their shitty writing and retarded asspulls? I really wish Blizzard understood that and stops taking themselves so seriously with their cosmic garbage.
>>
What's the rotation for leveling as a prot warrior? I feel like I'm doing literally no damage
>>
>>153912847
there was an invincible mob in the badlands that you could just attack and afk while you leveled it
>>
>>153912679
The dragons' flame sealed my fate. The world of the living can no longer comfort me. Place the crown upon my head, Tirion. Forevermore, I will be the Jailer of the Damned.


She will be next as soon as Lich King gets off his frozen throne.
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>>153912679
>fantasy lore dragons
>large mean lizards who hoard gold

>Blizzard lore dragons
>fundamental Captain Planet aspects of the world except for stuff like time who control all the magical powers ever and can turn into a human form in a thing and walk among people and they are amazingly strong and have their own little subfactions based on skintone which isnt racist because they are all benevolent and good except the black ones and whenever they appear in the story they are super special and can defeat anybody if they arent Thrall and they were around when the world was created because they are basically lizard gods who
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>>153913064
>vanilla apologists

literally perfect post, thank you for highlighting exactly what vanilla nostalgiafags are like
>>
>versatility is a low stat priority in pve but is high in pvp for ret

how is this possible?
>>
Are locks really that shit?

From all metrics I'm seeing Demo does pretty good dps.
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>>153913149
Are you retarded?

Read the fucking stat and maybe you'll find out.
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How are fury warriors doing right now?
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>get fucking 4/5 loremaster of legion expac
>hall quests done
>all 3 artifacts
>still a solid level of grinding ahead of me
>did every scenario
>no rested exp
Mage life sucks bros might just reroll a DH since they're dps is literally three times of what I do in fun spec.
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>>153913128
stop being retarded

it was part of a quest that you needed to find an item for in order to kill him, it wasnt a bug
>>
You can just tell how mad someone is by the amount of homophobic slurs they lmao
>>
>>153912679
>Nozdormu gets a dungeon
>Malygos gets his own raid
>DW gets an entire expansion plus all of his kids are raid bosses, some with their own raids.

>Ysera gets a cutscene and dies to a couple Nelfs and some random punk who isn't even max level.

That's the real injustice here.
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>>153913239
fury is better than arms pre tier set
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>>153913234
i know what it does you turbo nigger, i dont see any other spec that changes stat priorites
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>>153912657
how
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Which RP server has the best ERP?
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>>153913265
>Ysera gets an entire raid to herself

ftfy
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>>153913356

Argent Dawn/Moonguard


>tfw you will never fuck Radah
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>>153913356
moonguard
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>>153913246

I got to 110 before even touching last zone (Highmountain).

Git gud
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>World Quest says reward is ilvl 820 breastplate
>Go and do quest
>810 gauntlets

t-thanks
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>>153913194
Destuction Lock here
Dps seems okay-ish, but the artifact wands black hole ability cranks it up to acceptable levels.
I'm still not sure if the 3 charges stack
>>
>>153913265

Yseras coming back in emerald nightmare
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>>153913424
git gud? nigga that means you wasted time lol

Congratulations, you played yourself
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s-sorry
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>>153913404
Why would you want to? She'd type up one line at the most. She's just another stupid fucking whore who got famous because she commissioned artists to draw her character. Same deal with Sparkshine and pretty much all of them.
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Is it too late to buy legion and get to 110 + gear up for raids before they're released?
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>>153913239

Worst spec in the game.
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>>153911797
>shitter rage

sucks to be you
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>>153913492

I know what I must do then
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eng or jwc? I want to make some good gear for my leather class
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>>153912051
>this is what ppl who never got past vael believe
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>>153913571
Honestly the WoW porn community is just one massive circlejerk of certain artists and people thinking that they're the best artists in the world and constantly suck each other off.
>>
Garrosh did nothing wrong
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>>153913542
Fury can put out more damage then arms
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>I'm a Rogue
>Got the feeling Outlaw is going to be nerfed before raids go live
>tfw running out of bag space
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>people still stuck in the objective world
>which is literally the best way to describe literal autistic "adult" children

Face it, for anyone that's actually at any level of "real world" maturity the attraction of MMOs isn't the dated gameplay loved by autists due to the grind, and man children due to the validation, but instead the people playing, and the world and it's potential for self-insertion.

XIV has an amazing story with realistic and empathetic characters with le quirky anime moments, good voice acting (when it's there), housing, realistic (for a game) crafting and gathering, husbandry, gambling, immersive graphics and customization with the potential to create a unique and cool looking character, and a story that draws you into it all.

Oh, and they actually did dragons right and made them interesting.


What WoW has going for it objectively is a unique cartoonish artstyle that would be okay if they updated old models, faster paced gameplay albeit with slightly less ability depth now, decent PvP (realistically it's only decent because everyone else is retarded and it's easy to win 99% of the time and feel good about it and laugh) and it's legacy /playerbase along with realistic night /day timers, Mythic+ which is semi-neat, artifacts and world legendaries (realistically there should be a lot more of both) and a lot of content to collect.

What it doesn't have is any real feeling of maturity or potential for self-insertion. Butchered, immature lore where they need to kill off characters to fit into the random plot lines and content they try to sew together. Cartoonish motives and one dimensional characters. Classes that feel like absurd capeshit (monk, rogue, mages, and druids are neat but monks have silly animations)

Basically its not a world you can immerse yourself in but an autistic circlejerk grinding simulator that can be fun

XIV is better in most ways and if you think 300,000 x 15 + exp/shop sales is "dead" then you're too immature for it anyway
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>>153913635
nice try but I progressed naxx. What did you read about Vael on wiki oh great vanilla expert?
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>>153913327
>pvp
>stat priorities

so you're actually retarded then?
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>satchel is for tanks, not healers
How can there be a lack of tanks with every faggot rolling DH?
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>>153912901
>>153912912
>>153913338
gotta farm them herbs and ore

95g each
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>dal sewers

My comps not a complete piece a shit but holy shit blizz what were you thinking this is unplayable.
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>>153913526
Not really, considering I'm already raid ready and it's been under a week and raids are two weeks away.
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>>153913763
Stopped reading the second you said XIV

Go play your Jap garbage and leave this thread.
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>>153913759
Why would you bother. That's not enough to make a dent in any artifact and once you get artifact knowledge you'll make more in a day than any of those.

Hoarding it does nothing for you by the time raids are out.
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>>153913403
>>153913474
>retards that don't know the difference between Ysondre and Ysera

wew lad
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>>153913798
yeah, pvp does have stat priority
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>>153913829
Because DH tanks are hot garbage and no one wants to play that shit
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>>153913876
Raids open in 2 weeks, by that time you'll have a max of 200% AP Gains, and you'll have already done most of the available Suramar bullshit.

The other side of this is that there's no reason *not* to hoard it.
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Who else really loving legion so far but wish they didnt remove half their abilties and wish half the content wasnt behind time gates here?!
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>>153913763
>XIV has an amazing story with realistic and empathetic characters

lol fuck out of here weebshitter
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>>153913940
>only 200% AP gains
>One World quest for a 300 AP artifact power item is worth more than that entire fucking bag

Hoard whatever the fuck you want for no reason but don't cry about bag space it's the future you've chosen.
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>>153913907

Shes not a boss. Her (uncorrupted) spirit lingers in the dream and shows up.
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>yfw "dragon aspect" is the next hero class
>all the aspects killed off
>titans descend to grant everyone the power
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>>153913940
>there's no reason *not* to hoard it.
AK boosts aren't retroactive
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>>153914010
elune already has her spirit
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>>153913839
>felslate
>2k

What the fuck?
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>tfw neet for 2 more weeks
>perfect timing for legion release
>nothing to do but bully my own butt while healing mythics and ordering takeaway food

what a life
>>
>>153914052

She shows up and helps you beat Xavius regardless.
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>>153912441
what else
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>he doesn't remove all his gear with tmorph and fight with his claws like a real man
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>>153914036
So? You don't lose anything by holding on to them until after balance patches.
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>>153911974
Better?
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>>153914028
>dead people "descend" to show everyone how dead they are
okay
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Can't decide between a rogue or warrior for my next character.

Sell me on either
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Just got back into WoW.
What should my main abilities be as a Prot Warrior?
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>>153914102
turn off any anti virus
make sure only wow is running, no twitch / music
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I have all professions and gatherings at 700 on some characters but they're not the ones I've decided to level this time around. On my two characters I've leveled I have fresh herbalism and mining and noticed Legion ore and herbs don't do the WoD thing of being able to gather at low levels but only getting shitty chunks instead of actual items. I'm getting actual ore and herbs. Not many per pick but I can't image at 700+ I'd get literally 30 felslate per node.

Is there any bonus to going on characters I have no intention of really playing but who have high mining/herbalism to farm for some jew gold before the well dries up completely or is there no real difference and can just pick flowers and shit as I quest normally?
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>>153914152
WW Monk.
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>>153913940
Blizzard said any items from leveling and stuff you already have will not be affected by artifact knowledge so no reason to keep them
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why is every tank but prot warrior absolute spikey fucking trash? why did blizzard make 3 (THREE) tanks depend entirely on some shitty self healing mechanic?
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>>153913928
Yeah I'm sure if you stack mastery enough you'll bypass the stat sheets that blizzard forces onto you whenever you enter PvP.
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>>153914163
the fuck am i reading

>>153914151
there are
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>>153914128
>balance patches

yeah because WoD had a shitload of those, right?

if certain specs are underperforming then they'll just compensate them with set bonuses, they're predictable as fuck
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>>153914178
nigga I got a bottleneck I'm not retarded who uses antiviruses in 2016
was wondering if any graphics options in particular were cpu intensive or if there was something else I could disable or anything because I can fucking turn every graphics option up to max and my fps will barely change
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>>153914163
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=prot+paladin
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>>153914128
You lose bag space which is apparently enough for someone to cry about it.

You're literally just hoarding pennies when the first act after any possible balance patch is going to net you a hundred dollar bill. The minor inconvenience of having them fill your pockets with actual worthless trash is worth more than the minor inconvenience of killing ten harpies a week from now for 10k artifact power.
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>>153914209
Stop trying to give Tauren a bad name
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>>153914163
http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-guide
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>>153914264
There's always a balance patch the week before raids open dumbass.
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>do dungeon
>not a single piece of loot drops
>just gay artifact power bullshit

I thought they said there was 1 guaranteed loot drop from the last boss of each dungeon?

What the fuck man
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>>153914287
Not doing anything on purpose, i am just enjoying the classes :3

Plus loving the fact that there are paladins who act racist or homophobic when the light is literally against that xd
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>>153914272
>>153914297
>guides that tell me to use 15 abilities at once

I haven't played since Wrath.
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>>153914319
1 guaranteed loot drop for one person out of five

Lol
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>>153914394
Guides are pretty awful now
>Just use all your abilities :^)
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>>153914373
The light teaches forgiveness and tolerance, yet you refuse to forgive Pandaren or Garrosh or Genn and the people that play/follow/like them.
>>
>>153914394
That's what the leveing process is for. To introduce you to things gradually. Just add each bit as you get it.

If you're boosting then you'd better practice against a training dummy for a while or something because people are going to be expecting you to be able to use all that stuff. Prot. Warrior isn't even particularly complicated.
>>
>>153914373
'The Light' isn't against shit. You can be a massive dick and a racist faggot and still be a strong Paladin/Priest.

Learn your lore, you furry tard.
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>>153914225
what about guardian
>>
>trolls can harness the light in the form of the priest
>trolls can wield a hammer in the form of a warrior
>trolls cant wield both at the same time in the form of a paladin

?????????????????????
??????????/?\
????????????????/
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LETS SEE THEM GOLD GRAPHS BOYS
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>>153914532
see >>153914209


>>153914513
>Tolerance
>When some paladins act intolerant
Hmmmm, what was this about not tolerating the intolerant ;^)
>>
Anyone else ever had a bug where it shows you have characters you don't actually have characters on?

Really want this shit gone
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>>153914307
yeah sure kid
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>>153914225
i dunno but

>playing any dps class
oh man i accidentally pulled 3 guys, better use my cooldowns so i can scrape by and not die

>playing prot warrior
lol I'm gonna run around and pull the entire zone and never go below 80% health whilst doing almost as much damage as a dps class

why is this okay
>>
>>153914373
the light is literally just faith in something, anything

so if you believe really hard that fags who jack off to gay pandas and Tauren are subhumans then the light will help you smite them
>>
>2 piece bonus - Each use of Furious Slash grants an additional 5% increase to Bloodthirst critical strike chance.

Do fury warrior have the worst tier bonus in WoW history?

>Arms gets extra 3 seconds on Battle Cry

Why the fuck can't I have that?
>>
>>153914570
Paladins are not just armored priests.
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>>153914124
Fight my mouth with your doggy dick
>>
>>153914570
>>trolls can harness the light in the form of the priest

Troll priest have always been loa priests
>>
As a NEET wanting to get back into wow in NA. What is best way to get a cheap copy of legion?
>>
>>153914657
How so?

>>153914680
Why aren't there loa paladins?
>>
>>153914641
Oh so paladins are supposed to kill each other.
Hmm quite genius, and goes against what maxwell said ;^)

Might want to try harder
>>
>warrior lvl 92
should i boost him?
>>
>add highmountain antlers and paint to Tauren
>add brown and grey skin to orcs
>add dark iron skin/eyes and wildhammer tattoos to dwarves
>vrykul for alliance
>naga for horde now that voljin is dead
Yay or nay?
>>
>>153914641
This

IE Scarlet Crusade. They were still using the power of the Light and smiting faggots, even innocents, because they had faith.
>>
>>153914691
Probably key resellers like g2a
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>>153914721
As shitty as WoD is, it would just be a waste.
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>>153914693
The same reason there aren't shadow paladins or fel paladins. Different power source - different powers.
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>>153914717
that's what HIS idea of the light is you stupid fucktard
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>>153914717
Retard. Learn established lore, not what your class order hall told you.
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>>153914740
I just want Tauren cosmetics.
And the ability to hide my left shoulderpad and/or replace it with something else.
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>>153914780
Maybe a hunter lvl 46? Or a shaman lvl 60?
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>>153914754
Aight thanks mate!
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>>153913763
The story was never supposed to be a focal point of any MMO. It's supposed to be in the background, there for people who are interested, but never a selling point.

XIV is a JRPG that has multiplayer. It's barely an MMO.
>>
>>153914583
Tolerance isn't the same thing as approval.
>>
help me wowg

>http://www.strawpoll.me/11158681
http://www.strawpoll.me/11158681
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11158681
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>>153914617
Tank Warriors has, and always will be kind of tanks. That is the only constant in WoW.
>>
new thread
>>153914912
>>153914912
>>153914912
>>153914912
>>
So how do I heal Demon Hunters as a Holy Paladin in Heroics and Mythics? They are fucking paper. Every single one of them.
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>>153913928
are you fucking retarded or something?
>>
>>153914878
Fell free to tolerate demons genius ;^)
>>
my fucking wrist hurts from playing my spriest. never had that before.
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>>153914851
The shaman would be just the right level for the the veteran profession boost. Not a bad option.
>>
>>153914781
Why can't priests use their powers to emulate paladin abilities?
>>
>>153914890

Undead paladins are coming. Sir Zeliek and Tirion will be their leaders.
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>>153913940
ARTIFACT
RESEARCH
ISNT
RETROACTIVE
HOARDING
IS
A
DUMB
IDEA
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>>153913774
sure you did, 10/14 here
we took locks like anyone else
you are full of shit and a shitter
no you didnt need bazillion shamans for muru either
fuck off
>>
>Fell free to tolerate demons genius

says the literal retard with a nathrezim in his hall
>>
Why doesn't Icy Veins show the strengths and weaknesses of tanks? Wanna see if it's worth to boost a prot warrior.
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>>153914976
I'm pretty sure they aren't gonna be bringing ol' Tirion back...in ANY form :(
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>>153914617
>lol I'm gonna run around and pull the entire zone and never go below 80% health whilst doing almost as much damage as a dps class
Yeah, prot warrior seems pretty good. I haven't done any dungeons yet (still only 102 on my warrior alt), but most of the time I pull 4-5 mobs at a time if I can, and my health rarely goes down much at all as long as Ignore Pain is up.
It says it's supposed to absorb 90% of damage, but it feels like it's absorbing almost 100% to me.
On a few occasions when I pulled groups of 10-ish mobs at a time, it did start to go down but as soon as they started dying I could just Victory Rush back to full health in no time.

I don't know how it is to level as DPS these days, as I haven't done it since Cataclysm, but it feels like most outdoor content has been way underpowered since Cataclysm.
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>>153915065
Sorry m8, I tried to bring him back. But it seems paladins don't want him to be one of the four horsemen.
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>>153905846
The only reason my undead warrior would go along with it after realizing what she was doing would be to run her through when she was distracted.
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>tfw WoW actually feels like WoW again
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>>153907624
Well, you can start Legion at 98 IIRC, so there's that at least.
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>>153907924
Easily in my top 5 zones.
>>
>>153907924

I just naturally hate underwater areas cause of my own real life phobias associated with it.
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>>153913928
Yeah, no.
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hello i have to go to bed soon can u please bully me a little bit before i have too i really deserve it this time please i really do i swear this is NOT a joke i really deserve to be bullied okay so please a littl ebit before i have to go to bed alright okay please okay go
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>>153914184
The money mats require 110.
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>>153914642
Doesn't fury revolve entirely around bloodthirst critting?
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>>153912425
That's fucking amazing.
Meanwhile I get a 4% damage reduction. Yay.
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