/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Any FC on?
Can we have a Oceiros' Gate FC?

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I love bullying Kriemhild!

>Heavy armor sucks
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one LOCKED BEHIND THE FINAL BOSS
>awful covenants
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for quirky weapons. In the end less weapon variety than BB
>No animation canceling
>No backstep I-frames
>rolls have too much iframs and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>40/40 is all that matters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB

>b-but the DLC will save it!
lmfao

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>>153786206
1st for speedy speed boy

He is the best

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I found a wild, unironic Havel.
Granted, he was using a Greataxe but I doubt he could lift the dragontooth at this SL.

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Whats your favorite armor set, /dsg/?

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>You walk into a shrine and this guy R2s your firekeeper's ass
What do you do?

>>153787217
WHERE IS THE FC
I WANT TO MEET MY BFS

>>153787217
if you host, friend

>>153787350
i cosplay havel with both shield and tooth
but granted i had to use collector edition to give me 99 vigor and havel ring +2, to get me under the 70 percent load

>>153787419
I would gladly but my internet connection isn't good enough for that

>>153787497
the weight of sets in this game is bullshit.

Anyone on PS4 need help with anything?

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>>153787379
I combo the fucker

So if the archer jumps off a cliff in DS1, can you not get the black bow?

if so, anyone got a spare? I'm SL 60. The hat would be nice too, mostly just because I like knowing I've picked everything up.

>>153787239
>tried silencing thomas is 2
>he pulls out a sword
does this not happen in 3?

>>153787379
Help him because she's a shit waifu

>>153787591
I do.
My life.

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>>153787654
>put full fire resist gear against Thomas
>997 fire def
>he pulls a sword

>>153787654
>ds3
>caring about details
lol

>>153787217
Don't complain if you won't host

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>>153787354
DaS: Knight Set
DaSII: Leydia Black Set + Alonne Leggings
DaSIII: Sunset Set

Overall: Sunset

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>>153787239
Fuck that bitch.

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>>153787758
O-okay

S-sorry

>>153787878
>it`s an NPC invader
>that drops no loot
>in an area with no loot
>and no obstacles preventing you from running to the boss fog
Who would ever unironically waste time fighting cream held?

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>>153787878
>getting bullied by Kriemhild

Laughing at your life

>>153787250
>ds2bab mad his game died
this thread is for odd-numbered souls games

>>153787654
He does? Which one?

>>153788002
This BK is cute

>>153787553
here you go
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/74621
you need to invest 75 levels on vitality with the fap+2 and havel ring +2 to carry all his stuff

as for the weapons requirements your character needs to be at least level 101 to carry it all, and that's with the base health and stamina

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>Get to lothric castle/beat gundyr at SL30
>Lothric Knight Greatsword drops
>Only requires 24 STR and 16 dex to one hand
>str ring and fai ring are available, as well as the dex smoke roll ring,. now gundyrs ring
>28 free stat points

>tfw I have lightning blade deep protection buffed UGS at +3 in the forest twoshotting everyone

I didn't intend to twink, but holy fuck is this fun.

>>153788090
>damage control
>DS2 boogeyman

lmao

>>153788145
>deep protection
that does nothing at all in pvp mate

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>>153787354
I dunno.

In DeS it was Gloom or Fluted, but I could never choose.

In vanilla DaS I wore Knight and Black Knight, but after AoTA I basically only wore parts of Artorias' and Havel's.

In DaS2 I liked Aalva and EK.

In DaS3 I just wear either Aalva for Poise or a close approximation of my AoTA getup. Although I also really like Dancer's.

>>153788137
>19vig
>17 (seventeen) Endurance
>with two Great-equipment

>>153788290
bullshit, I saw my damage go up when hitting people and my stamina recharges faster

>>153788164
>wanting mirrored movesets
>not a ds2bab

Someone tell me why people regard DaS1 as the best souls game even though everyone agress that everything post Lordvessel, which is about 50% of the game, is complete garbage

>>153788371
stamina effects in pvp are negligible and damage buffs are severely reduced in effect

>>153788145
>30 FAI at SL30
>Not shit rest of stats

How is this allowed

Why did Memeazaki put Twink Rings in the videogame

>>153788424
>everyone agress
They don't, though.

>>153787354
Moon butterfly set

>>153788397
>moveset variety is bad
>blocking with parrying dagger is good!

lmao

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>>153786206
There were so many things that DaS2 got wrong (and also right), but this fucker really was a missed opportunity.

>you encounter him at the most inopportune areas, each time with a new weapon and each successive time with more HP and fewer weaknesses
>comes at you with a huge double axe in Huntsman's Copse woods, chopping down trees as he misses you with swings, parries will cause him to be stunned for less time
>shows up in the fog in Shaded Woods, has poor tracking and you can see his glowing eye from far away, but he homes in on you with sound and uses a huge halberd with long reach
>appears in the Gutter, stationed on a central platform and uses a greatbow to try to knock you off ledges to your death, homes in on you each time you light up a torch, you have to use cover and slowly make your way to his platform to take him on, at which point he takes out his sword and shield but can no longer be parried
>rides around his bird circling Drangleic Castle, taking potshots at you with a crossbow until you reach the rooftop with the gargoyle, where he lands and takes you on with a huge two-handed greatsword
>each time you defeat him he retreats but leaves behind a Pursuer Soul Fragment, which can be exchanged at Straid's for one of his weapons, each victory unlocking the weapon he was just using, you can craft duplicates to dual-wield power-stance if you want
>final battle is on the rope bridge at the end of Dragon Aerie, it doesn't sway in the wind anymore but he'll block your way with a greathammer, so you have to avoid killing any eggs on your way
>beating him here will reward you with True Soul of the Pursuer and unlock the Pursuer Set at Maughlin's

>>153788503
Not really seeing that. Damage increase is good at low level. What else am I using that attune slot for?

>>153788424
The post lord vessel areas are significantly shorter.
I'd say if you go all the way to anor londo and only do DLC(which people agree is good) you do 75% of the game

>>153788371
im really sorry anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA-0k6FcztI

but i do this because i dont want people to see you buffing that in a duel and laugh at you

>>153788564
>Wanting copied movesets instead of offhand parries or an entirely unique lefthand setup is "variety"

>>153788424
The first half + duke's archives are phenomenal
ToTG is alright
New Londo is pretty bad
Izalith is the only truly garbage part of the game

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praise the best pvp in the series

>>153788076
host fc

So why doesn't Kriemhild have her Rapier in the Archives gank?

>>153788371
by nothing he means barely anything

The stamina regen is on-par with grass, and the attack/defense bonuses are mitigated in pvp.

>>153788424
I genuinely consider 3 to be better, mostly for that particular reason. DS1 was a game that had a lot of good parts, DS3 shaved off a bunch of bad stuff and really only loses points for being overly referential.

>>153788327
i wasnt making a build anon
i was just showing how much stat investment is required on carry all the havel set

>>153788701
I'm not really in the camp of hating this game for the sake of it, but, if there's no character editor, no plot, and no way to escape the kobuto it will be petty much shit, only suited for megaweebs.

>>153788639
good idea famalam

maybe in ds4 :^)

>>153788791
because she lost it during invasion
reminder that crystal sage in archives doesn't have a crystal rapier, he uses an estoc
he gave crystal rapier to that dumb bitch but she fucking lost it

>>153788916
good for her
the crystal rapier is trash for invasions

>>153788681
holy cow

What the fuck From

>>153787354
DeS: Fluted set
DaS: EK
DaS2: Royal Swordsman (which, oddly enough, looks a lot like the plate set from Demon's)
DaS3 :
Knight set or Assassin.

>>153788684
How fucking retarded are you most weapons don't even have off hand parries. 90% have shitty blocks.

>entirely unique left hand setsup

Jesus fucking christ, you make DS3 fans look awful

Darkwraith run or abyss watcher run ?

anyone down for hosting a fight club?

>>153789336
Jojoposter promised

>>153789203
>How fucking retarded are you most weapons don't even have off hand parries. 90% have shitty blocks.
I'd rather have a couple useful lefthand movesets instead of a bunch of dupes. Do you just want people running around with two carthus curved swords?

>entirely unique left hand setsup
Would you rather have two of the same or just make it have a different lefthand setup? You can replace offhand blocks with something better than just the righthand moveset. Or you could just copy paste more, I'm sure fromsoft would love that.

>>153789613
I'm not going even bother with your retarded statements. You are so delusional that your actual defending the shitty downgrade of mechanics in DS3. You are LITERALLY the only one on /dsg/ I have ever seen defend it.

>mfw you can just smash every chest in the game without worry instead of das2's system

>>153789251
Darkwraith

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>>153789928
>mfw an enemy breaks a chest I was going to open and I get rubbish

>>153789928
>he can't spot mimics in ds2
>he hits crates more than once in that game

it's not the game's fault, anon

>>153789965
Thanks babe

>>153789986
>ascetic the area
>it was just bolts

>>153789928
Watching hosts die to the trap chest in the wharf was really funny

>>153789745
>You are LITERALLY the only one on /dsg/ I have ever seen defend it.
Then maybe you're a newfag. You're not going to have dual weapons with identical movesets without it being drastically meaningless or drastically overpowered. Even in DS2, dual weapons were generally just for memebuilds like double smelter. Either they'll keep their joke status or open up combo potentials that make them broken. Start thinking about how mechanics actually play out instead of being an ideaguy who just throws in whatever looks pretty.

>>153788424
>Everyone agrees
Lolno.
And Catacombs/Totg is good. New Londo Ruins is good but short. DLC is great. Duke's isn't amazing but it's solid. Only Lost Izalith is shit in my opinion because it neither has any interesting fights or exciting level design aside from the visuals. And of course THAT area has 3 boss fights.

The thing that Dark Souls had and still has over Dark Souls 3 is that there are definite high points and the levels feel less samey when you go through them into multiple directions and they have long enough gauntlets between bonfires that it feels non-trivial to make runs between them, which causes some delicious tension. In Dark Souls 3 the bonfires are too close to each other to there be actual tension when doing bloodstain runs except in CotD,ADP,Dungeon,Irithyll or Grand Archives.

DaS1 also had several high points in the game whileas Dark Souls 3 is constantly solid but very few things particularly stand out.

Also, while the exploration aspect of DS3 is there, it matters less in 3 when you can't really do shit out of sequence like in Dark 1.

>>153790129
Stay on reddit kiddo.

>Winged Knight Twinaxes

god these things do so much damage but how the fuck am I supposed to land anything when they have zero hyperarmour and fuck all range.

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The one thing I wanted from Dark Souls 2 was the ability to parry with the FUCKING weapon. I don't use shields much at all because I'm not a fan of how they look flip-flopping around from your arm to your back every time you two-hand, but if I want to parry I need to lug around either a small shield or a shitty boxing glove.

You can't even bare-hand parry anymore because some genius thought it'd be better to make an empty offhand shortcut to your weapon art. You know, that thing you can do by just two-handing the fucking weapon.

>>153789613
>I'd rather have a couple useful lefthand movesets
such as what? I'll wait.

>>153790129
>retard confusing powerstancing with left-hand movesets
At least learn the difference before making yourself look like an obvious virgin to the series

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>people are starting to catch up on offhand greataxes

>>153790187
Weapon parries are really the only thing DaS2 got right and the only thing I miss.

>>153790187
I miss left hand greatsword parries even if they were useless they looked sweet

>>153790459

>Katanas get a stance parry
>Rapiers don't

Fuck.

>>153790187
weapon parries had one of the shittiest parry frames in entire ds2

>>153790594
Not entirely true, barehand parries were worse, but how good they are is besides the point. The point is that the option existed for those that wanted it.

>>153790590
yeah let's buff rapiers

>>153790442
Good. This game need more people using ultras with actual hyperarmor and not the babyshit they give UGS

>>153788639
Honestly,he should appear at the Drangleic casyle bridge as a normal fight and chase you around while flying in the Dragon Aerie.

Also, I just realized why they made him appear so fucking much in Lost Bastille in SotfS :
Lost Bastille is Alken where the Pursuer originates from.

>>153790590
rapiers get the special "kick" though. I thought it was cool.

>>153791014
curved swords do too, and they also did in ds1
as cool as these moves look, they're completely useless

>>153790161
>Reddit bogeyman
There's a reddit video in this thread already anyway.

>>153790303
How am I confusing powerstancing with lefthanded movesets? Powerstanced or not, lefthanded weapons in DS2 were almost never worth using. The only one I recall enjoying was rapier-greatsword, but ultimately the meta setups in that game pretty much all used one righthand weapon.

>>153790189
Just give them offhand parries and the option to L1 like a twin weapon. If you just have the same righthanded moveset, your weapon will either be something you may as well have had in your right hand for the sake of keeping a parrying tool out in your left instead, or it'll allow for longer combos and inevitably become overpowered to the point where everyone has to use double weapons. Twin weapons are far easier to balance since they're single items and don't need to have to be tested alongside every single other weapon in the game.

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ayy

>>153790742
None of the rapiers aside from the estoc are actually any good.

>>153791120
>curved swords do too
WHY
that makes no sense. that's a thrusting sword technique. curved swords aren't shaped for that shit.

LOTHrIC
LOrdran
THorolund
drangleIC.

>>153791294
they get a different animation
it's a slash + ninja backflip (with no iframes, of course)
looks sick, but is useless

>>153791294
They do a little slash+backflip that gives you a little spacing, not the rapier move

>>153791341
>Heard that the place DS3 was in was called lordran
>Was initally under the impression that it was based off of prince lothric's name
>Can't stop calling him lorthric

>>153791341
Omg call vaati

>>153791385
It actually does have some uses. You can chain it from an R1 faster than another R1 or a roll.
R1->kick is completely safe as long as the R1 forced a roll or guard

>>153791341
ARIAndEL
ARIAmis
ELeum Loyce
>both are snow areas

>>153791341
yOu
faggOt

what miracles for pvp? i use sunlight spear and lightning steak

>>153791436
Serously though, I think that Cathedral of the Deep was actually Thorolund due to the high amount of Lloyd stuff found in there and the dact that it seems like it's the former Way of White headquarters before they turned to the Deep.

>>153791802
try carthus bacon

>>153791341

>LOTHIC

>>153791802
stake*

>>153791661
DS3 literally has Loyce knight armours in the game files.

>still no fc

What is going on today?

>>153791802
lightning storm is good for rollcatching if you've got the attunement slots for it

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>>153791941
...okay?

>>153792002
i have work tonight, everyone else has friends or whatever normie shit

FC?

>>153792067
I'm sorry, I tjought you were disputing my Ariandel theory. But my Thorolund theory is on a more stable ground.

>>153792096
>all my bfs are actually normies

This can't be true ;_;

>>153791885
regen

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>>153792040
>cast lightning storm
>enemy rolls away
>cast med heal

>>153792181
maybe you should host and see if they're around

>>153792181
I'm not, just don't prefer to invade or play other games as of now

>>153792265
>they chug

>>153792365
What is this anime ?

>>153792040
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/74637 is this any good?

>>153792002

I can host one in a bit. What SL?

>>153792365
I want to like this game but it looks like fucking fruit ninja

>>153792189
what am i looking at?

>>153792509
whatever sl you choose

>>153792509
120 please

>>153792509
120

>>153792449
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/74637
29 vig at 120 is kinda risky.

I used to play with 27 at 120, and it's honestly not an issue at sully clubs, but ultimately the offensive gains you get from having low vig aren't often worth the loss in lifespan.

>>153792449
Stats are good, but I would also equip the ring of the sun's first born (or at least replace it with morne's ring, because it's a direct upgrade)

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>>153792449
replace morne's with sun's firstborn
replace favor with sage's
attune med heal
get a backup yorshka's chime for situations when you can afford to cast from a safe distance and for gentle prayer

>>153792587
>>153792662
>>153792672

Alright, will host in a few minutes at High Wall.

>>153792687
i can handle it, i think
>>153792695
>>153792708
thanks guise

>>153792708
What makes med heal so special?
Looking at that it doesn't seem particularly more FP efficient compared to great heal

>>153792708
forgot to say: attune lightning/darkmoon blade for the hatchet
make the hatchet raw and get just minimum stats to use it, spend them on VIG
get a second backup lightning hatchet for when the buff runs out and you can't afford to rebuff it

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>Mfw we'll revisit some other glorious place in DLC2 that's been ruined
>mfw it's going to be the ruins of Vinheim Dragon school

>>153792896
you usually won't be healing from 1 HP, and he's only got 29 VIG
anything above med heal is going to be an unnecessary overheal

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>>153788096
Shortsword.

>>153792993

DLC that opens up the rest of Anor Londo when?

>>153788424
they don't, 3 is hands down the best, its only weakness is the pvp/covenants

>>153793115
It's all crumbled away. Irithyll IS Anor Londo...

>>153793109
>"let's fucking go then"

>>153793128
and lack of content
and linearity
and absolutely garbage balance (it's not just a PvP issue, though mainly a PvP issue)

>>153793109
How did 3 go backwards with NPCs

>>153793386
>Lack of content
I think DS3 has a decent amount of content considering there's nothing as shitty as Lost Izalith.

>>153793109
Dark Souls 2 had a lot of little cool things weighed down by overarching dealbreakers for a lot of people, like SM and the like. Damn shame even the cool shit got thrown out for Dark Souls 3.

>>153793386
>and lack of content
It has less content than DS2 full of copypasted shit, sure. But lacking content? Holy shit you're wrong.
>and linearity
Not an inherently a bad thing
>and absolutely garbage balance
It actually has the best pre-dlc balance of all souls games.

the fuck did you attacked me?
the host got invaded and tried to kill the dark spirit because he's using a phantom slot and then everyone started attacking me

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>>153792819

Okay, put your signs here. Password is dsg

>>153793386
>lack of content
quality over quantity
>linearity
the levels lack the interconnectivity of das1, but with levels like undead settlement and grand archives they're great when you look at stages individually
>garbage balance
im happy with the variety of builds ive played and their strengths, there will also be future dlc and patches that will alter balance

>>153793563
all truly good shit was thrown out of ds2 before it was even released
we never got fire sorcery
we never got spell aiming on l2
we never got faster beta ugs or cool beta spells
we never got ds2 as it was actually planned before they butchered and downgraded it so hard it became just a shadow of initial draft

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>>153793484

>>153793484
>Siegmeyer's questline has parts of siegwards in reverse, starting from you jumping down and him chasing after you simmilarly to what happens in LI in DS1.
touche I guess

>first DLC is a shitty snow place
Oh come on

Could someone help me transfer a Hunter's ring or simply drop one for me if you got an extra on PC?

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>>153793959

>>153793813
Yeah, DaS2 had probably the most troubled development process. The initial director had no fucking clue what he was doing, so the whole damn game had to be redone by cobbling together what they had.

Makes me wonder what could have been, had they had enough time.

>>153793813
>we never got ds2 as it was actually planned
That's a good thing, anon.
The last minute hack&slash saved DaS2. It didn't butcher it, it butchered some bastardized half-assed unfinished open-world The Elder Scrolls of Zeldacraft and make a souls game out of it.

>>153793998
Are you at the FC?

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Would implementing a non-idiotic form of poise fix PVP as it currently stands?

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>>153793695
>going in the first place

>>153793959
comparing this to ds3 npcs makes me fucking furious

>>153794014
I'm starting to think the nioh shill is a bot

>>153793575
>linearity
>not an inherently bad thing
Maybe, but the way DS3 handles it is shitty and unsatisfactory. If you make a linear game, at least form the segments into clear "level sets" with longer gauntlets between bonfires or do an overworld with some route choices and bonfires in areas where they can serve as beacons of exploration into two areas at a time.

Instead DS3 mixed the elements of Demon's, Dark Souls1 and Dark 2 in the overworld design and managed to combine the constant warping back to the bonfire with Dark 2's idea of giving you too many bonfires so you'll never be teuly taken out of your comfort zone.

>>153794118
Not really, poise isn't whats needed. I'm not saying it's a horrible idea, but it'd just end up being a new issue to tackle. What's needed is 50% more stamina consumption on rolls and some sort of means of balancing organized ganking.

>>153794059
have you seen unused maps, nigga?
they are way better designed than anything we have in actual ds2 even if you take them as disconnected levels
i would prefer some completely new original experimental thing instead of a pile of fanfic shit we got with ds2 instead with all best ideas already removed from the game

>>153794083
Not currently, but I'll join.
I'm the cute witch

>>153793729
P-PC FC BF!

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>>153787354
You just posted it
The Faraam set is pretty nice too

>>153794194
Bot or no stop fucking replying to it.

>>153793959
That's kinda cute

>>153793998
Where/pass

>>153794289

First time hosting, I'm not your BF.

Should I stream the fights for the people waiting?

>>153794118
I'm assuming that "non-idiotic" form of poise means ds1 poise
that would make the game even worse
>poisestabs
>r1 spammers can continue even after getting hit

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>>153794232
>but the way DS3 handles it is shitty and unsatisfactory
Each level in DS3 is worth multiple DS2 and even DS1 levels in terms of amount of content. Even though the progression is linear nothing stops you from taking the shortest route then exploring the area later when you find a weapon or spell your build is focused on. I have no fucking idea why some people have such a huge problem with the way DS3 handles the level progression, it's better to have a high-quality linear level progression than a few branches of completely uninspired shit like we got in DS2.

>>153794178
You said you'd host

>>153794194
Bradley's something special. He'll Force enemies when surrounded so you can hit them while they're staggered, will apply sunlight blade before going into the ledge with the longarm fuckos, and if you're hurt, will try and bring you over to that staircase so he can heal you in a safe place from the archers, will use emit force on said archers / enemies he can't path to, etc.

>>153794392
I don;t duel, so DaS1-style poise would be lovely. It would mean that I could trade into squads of babysitting phantoms with a minmaxed poise breakpoint and always come out on top, instead of meeting a wall of 4 darksword R1s covering every possible opening at every possible moment

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>>153793968
It ends similarly as well, kind of. In the end his daughter has to put an end to him after Siegmeyer hollows, and in DS3 Siegward is there to put an end to Yhorm as a heavy duty.

>in DS1 you save Sieglinde for him
>in DS3 he saves Greirat for you.

>>153794379
I don't think that's needed

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>>153794545
I'm not hosting right now, so what does it matter?

>>153794332
High wall, by the bonfire.
Pass is ring.

>>153794564
they would use the poisebreak gear too then, and literally nothing would change
you're forgetting how quickly the meta spreads

>tfw the black knight sword is great against pontiff shitters

The amount of people I've killed by spamming r1 while they roll around me trying to get a roll attack off is amazing.

>>153794759
i fucking love ds3 BK weapons in general, certainly their best iteration in the entire franchize

>>153794702
when we have a fc people assume the password is dsg you should change into that

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>>153794859
>implying

>>153794593
Yeah. It's the same, but also reversed in ways. I though it was one of the better DS1 references since it was bent around in a new way instead of just a meme. Thank god the best character quest from DS1 didn't get fucked in 3.

>just now noticed the knights in the picture

>>153794904
implying what?
ds1 bk weapons only were good in pve and only if rng gods were on your side
ds2 bk weapons are a blasphemy
ds3 ones are among the best weapons in their classes

>>153794710
99% of phantoms I encounter don't know 2 things about meta. The rare carthus sword is used by a drone that can't tell R1 from alt-F4. Tryhard shit doesn't extend beyond pontiff's reddit club and 9/10 times an imbalanced meta favour an invader who can prepare and exploit that meta beforehand over a host just working through NG and a few phantoms looking for easy embers.

Seriously, people who think DaS3's multiplayer is all bad spend all their time at pontiff's. The closest thing to meta you encounter outside of meta level ranges and duelist hotspots are guidereaders using BK shields and darkswords because that's what the steam walkthrough told them to do.

>>153794901
he's not hosting an fc, he's transferring a hunters ring for someone

fought 4 people before lutgardis took me down

what an ending lmao

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Fug, the champ is down

>>153794564
you would just encounter full gank squads of havels with fast spammy shit breaking your poise even easier than hyperarmor

>>153794554
>you will never have a summon like bradley again

>>153795105
CAN'T
STOP
THE
ROCK
Why do I only fight you, anyway? Where's everybody else? lazy host

>>153791148
Congratulations retard. You just admitted to DS3 currently having no useful left hand weapons. The very thing the original post said that you decided defend shit souls 3 was better. Suck that Miyazaki cock hard.

>>153795028
Just generally speaking, you shouldn't rely on player ignorance to ensure your gameplay implementations remain balanced. That's a big gamble you're eventually going to lose with enough time.

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>>153795004
>ds1 bk weapons only were good in pve and only if rng gods were on your side

>>153795197
i think the host can summon only two people at the same time

>>153795197

Because he didn't die until the second cycle.

>>153794465
>I have no idea why people dislike DS3's level progression

I dunno if you played Dark Souls 1, but :
Being able to do levels in different orders made the replay value so much higher. Depending on what build I was going for, I could beeline to many sifferent bosses from the game start and pkanning runs is fun when you want to take into account on how to maximize your efficiency in getting equipment and you can/want to get early, what bosses you want to leave alive and so on. DS3 takes away all that and you just drift through the levels every time in the same order. I like the levels themselves, though.

However, the linearity,overreliance on the warp and the lack of conbections to neighbouring levels also achieves that you don't really traverse the levels from diffetent directions like in DaS1, and they give you constant bonfires to make up for the fact that the levels don't have any interconnectivity and tgat chops the levels up into tiny segments which i turn makes the levels feel smaller than they actually are.

>>153795028
>Seriously, people who think DaS3's multiplayer is all bad spend all their time at pontiff's
unfortunately they are also the loudest crybabies
i have nearly 800 hours in ds3, i haven't been dueling for more than 20 of them and i had a blast with pvp, both as a host during dried finger runs and as an invader up to sl~70

>>153795215
>taking that long to think up a reply
>best you can do is call me a retard
>"You just admitted to DS3 currently having no useful left hand weapons."
>not even accurate
>"The very thing the original post said that you decided defend shit souls 3 was better. "
>not even a sentence

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>>153792510
you're fruit ninja

>>153795397
dried finger?

>>153794904
He's right, though.
DaS1 BK weapons were just pve powerhouses that abused excessive base damage to trivialize half the game, and then gradually fall off. Their unique movesets were slow, useless and begged you to be backstabbed. In pvp they were all trash or blatantly outclassed by something else.

In 2 they were all just generic weapons with fire damage. The greatsword was good but the rest were garbo.

In 3 they are some of the best weapons in-class. BKGS is the highest AR ultra greatsword, BKS is the highest AR greatsword, BKGlaive is literally a top-tier meta weapon and the BKGA is arguably the best weapon in a terrible weaponclass. All of them have useful unique attacks that make them stand out in pvp, whether it's the BKS' long-reach thrusting rolling R2, the BKGS' 1600 damage combo or the glaive's R2 with 360degree tracking.

DaS3 has the best iteration of BK weapons by far

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>>153795004
>ds1 bk weapons were only good in pve

>>153795513
he's using it
perhaps he's hollow, i heard they have a summon penalty

>>153795513
bosses dead?

>>153795481
>*mmmmmff* *mmmmmffff*

Gotta take that cock out your mouth to be taken seriously.

>>153795550

I am hollow, also not embered.

Can change either of those if it helps, I'm just getting into DaS3 PVP so I dunno.

>>153795601
>"lalala I can't hear you!"
I hope you have an okay life

>>153795609
Have you killed Dancer and Vordt? If so, I suggest moving somewhere the boss is alive

>>153795445
>I dunno if you played Dark Souls 1
i've played it for roughly 1500 hours but i don't consider it to be some sort of a peak of level design in video games nor do i understand why all games in series should use the similar level structure
the only way you niggas are even talking about that aspect of ds1 is because for some dumb reason master key was made a starting gift when in reality it should be an ng+ item
and nothing stops you from getting equipment you want early unless it's locked in the second half of the game or past dragonslayer armour but in ds1 prior to AL you couldn't make any fucking boss weapons at all and was locked out of many upgrade paths

I feel so bad for the Old Demon King. Like, it's one thing to kill a boss, but it's a whole other thing to humiliate him and kick him while he's down, fuck

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>>153795529
>BKGA best GA
>BKGlaive still top tier meta
Wow, you sure like implying things

>>153795679
>*mmmmmmmmmmfffffff*

Christsake, this is a Christan imageboard. Get out of here with that degeneracy.

>>153795573
He's got the dark sun so probably

>>153795397
He can use dried finger.

>>153795440
I guess so, I think he's just not summoning enough people. Maybe he killed the bosses.

>>153795548
t. never tried to pvp with them

>>153795260
7 years of dark souls games has proven you quote false. Relying on player ignorance and preparatory advantage remains a valid tactic to win about 90% of invasions across all 3 games. You encounter DaS3 players that can competently use meta weapons about as often as you encounter hosts in the burg that know how to escape chainstabs or 4-man squads in scholar that won't walk into a buffed popsicle and die

Players are ignorant because they just don't care to inform themselves. The game isn't that important to them and they won't give it more than 60 hours or however long their first playthrough takes. As an invader, I don't have to worry about the other demographic because the meta-following drones congregate at an overleveled SL well outside my invasion range and hide out in a little hugbox "hotspot"m where they enjoy their meta duels all day. None of their influence extends beyond that hugbox.

>>153794194
As much as I dislike Maldron for his blatant cheating, B Team definitely knew what they were doing with him.

>>153795445
Adding to this :
I love DS3. The combat feels super fun and when the levels are arranged in a fashion they were in DS1 like Cathedral of the Deep, Indead Settlement by just using the Foot of the High Wall and Dilapidated Bridge bonfires, Cathedral of the Deep, Irithyll Dungeon, Cattycombs without using the bonfire, and Irithyll+Dungeon, and Grand Archives, Dark Souls 3 shows that it CAN have good and interesting level design, it just falls short of potentially being great.

>>153795707
Actually no, those things were explicated and not implied.
Not that an ESL would know what words mean. It's probably just easier to spout memes as a substitute for articulating yourself in a difficult language like english, right?

DS3 was made with the D team and poverty assets stolen from BB.

>>153795682

Only options for that are Archdragon Peak and Smouldering Lake. I should just make a new character I suppose.

>>153795004
BKGA was god tier in Kiln days and decent afterwards, BKH same, and the BKS/GS still win style points and are okay/pretty decent

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YO WADDUP

>>153795919
How many teams does a tiny, obscure japanese game development company have?
You realize they probably have less than 50 people total on company payroll, right? Most of the people listed in the credit roll of each respective game are 3rd-party contributors outsourced by the publisher.

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>some poor fuck tries to block a dark infused longsword on a pyromancer build with a BKS
Now that's a fucking shield piercing.

>>153795983
It only slows down it, you can try lake if you stopped the balista, make them fight in the water

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>>153795893
>Instead of reading the post, knowing full well what it meant and then writing a rebuttal I shall post like a pedantic autist

>>153796028
Its already confirmed that the real A team, or SS+ team is Studio Japan. Miyazaki just mooches off their work.

>>153795993
>any UGS in Dark Souls 1
>any GS except the gaymore in dark souls 1, especially one with literally useless R2s and nothing to mitigate the "please backstab me" R1s
>any greataxe not being completely free to rollBS and poisestabs
>any halberd even existing in a game where ninjaflip demon's spear existed
Lets face it, every single BK weapon was hot fucking garbage unless you were burg twinking with them.

>>153795993
BKGA was nerfed to a poing of being susceptible to \reaction parries.
BKH is an overhead halberd (read: shit) with higher weight and lower AR than quality Scythe
BKS/GS are unusable in pvp and landing their special r2 is virtually impossible.

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if you guys want I can host, haven't killed dancer, sl120, have dried finger, not hollow

>>153795983
Archdragon peak is a nice place, but my fps drops really hard there. Smoudering lake with the ballista shooting at us sounds fun

I guess I can also host, at Archives or Profaned Capital.

>>153796189
host! host!

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>>153796189
No.

>>153796157
nice theoryplays there

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Story time /dsg/

>Decide "okay, today, no Caestus, no Funsword. Only MLGS, since that's my weaponfu."
>tl;dr can't win a single fight
>Fight the most reactive fuckfaces I've seen DaS2
>Get out-traded by straight swords
>Get out-hyper-armored by glaives
>Lag
>You have been summoned to world of StupidRetardWhoSummonedYouEvenThoughHesAlreadyInAFightThatHeJustLost_BecauseThatsWhatYouWantedToDo_SitThroughTwoLoadingScreens

What a fucking horrible night to play Souls.

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>>153796090
It's okay, anon. We can't all be well-versed in the english language, after all. It's so tough to learn in a 3rd world country, I understand.

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>>153790594
it was pretty easy to parry with ultras

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm9yIWBMEmo

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>>153796395
>took this long to reply because you were busy searching for some possible flaw
It's okay anon, you not knowing a single thing about good greataxes and the current meta will not stop me from loving you.

Please though, stop the abbreviations like "ESL", it makes you sound like one of those fighting game rejects and it gets really obvious when you're posting in the thread.

>>153796451
it required your opponent to be 100% retarded to land

smough guy are you the guy that said he had 99 vit earlier this thread? your defense seemed a lot

What does it mean if I have an easier time killing the dancer than the water reservoir dogs?

>>153796451
Better delete that video. It shows more viable movesets than entirety of DS3 ultras.

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>>153796518
>Please though, stop the abbreviations like "ESL"
pffft

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>>153796532

Someone stop this mad cunt

>>153796518
>Please though, stop the abbreviations like "ESL", it makes you sound like one of those fighting game rejects and it gets really obvious when you're posting in the thread.
Is this bait? Some kind of false flag?

>>153796589
That you have a problem with broken hitboxes.

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>>153796726
Is it?

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>>153795696
>nor do I understand why all the games in the series should use a similar level structure
There's no requirement to, I guess but to me DS3 is a bad mix of all of the previous entries.
They gave you a bonfire for every boss like DeS. They built some levels around a single bonfire like DaS1(incidentally my favorites) and they plopped bonfires to act as checkpoints because the overworld lacks interconnectivity due to being laid put horizontally instead of vertically like DaS2.

They copied elements out of the old games seemingly without understanding how those elements contrast with each other too much.

In Demon's the levels were laid out in linear pipes but they gave you only the level start bonfire and from there you had to negotiate a run to the boss and earn your checkpoint by killing the boss and unlock shortcuts to make the runbacks easier. The boss bonfire then worked as a starting bonfire for the next level. This made you use the entire level when you got killed instead of a tiny part of it.

In DaS1 areas were either built around 1 bonfire or they were placed in spots connecting multiple areas and rarely there were mid-level bonfires and if there were, it also probably meant that the level was long.

DaS2 shat out bonfires everywhere but at least there was some SLIGHT justification for it in the form of the no bonfire run.

The DS2/3 model is imo boring because it chops up the levels into manageable bits but it removes the tension out of the game knowing the bonfire is always so close.

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Fucking Hackers are ruining any kind of enjoyable experience in this game.

Can somebody explain how 'scaling' works in relation to FCs? I've never really understood what people mean when they say that.

>>153796880
>pontiff's
Bugger off

>>153796880
As long as he doesn't walk backwards literally the entire fight I'd take that over the bullshit I've seen tonight.

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>>153796532
yeah, here are my stats
i fought depression twice without any armor but i dont know if that affects anything

i can leave the fight club if you guys think this is unfair, since i only upped the equip load stat for cosplay big lore dudes

>>153796589
You're smart enough to not throw out punishable rolls, something you don't even need to worry about 99% of the time in DS3.

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>>153795696
To be fair, the entire upgrade system in DaS1 was shitfucked (Divine was only useful for Catacombs and Nito, Occult is just Magic damage that scales with Faith, Fire and Lightning elements couldn't even be capitalized on because of complete removal of scaling, etc.). The infusion system that followed was far better, especially with elemental scaling.

The level structure from DaS1 didn't so much rely on use of the Master Key, but rather on the fact that you could circularly navigate to the locations you wanted to reach, as opposed to going in one direction until you hit a dead end and then just using the bonfire to jump to your next destination. It's creative and intelligent design that I can appreciate, and it makes you feel like you're in an actual living breathing (or at least once was) world rather than just walking down a corridor and experiencing cutscenes every now and then. The shortcuts back to previous bonfires also takes advantage of vertical level design, and gives you the same feeling of actual functionality and progress (you can see the place that you're going to end up eventually, and when you get there you can turn around and look up/down to see how much progress you've made).

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>>153796880
>Hackers
cheaters
they aren't worthy of even being called script kiddies because literally everything they are doing is changing 3-4 values in premade table

>>153796919
You mean downscaling?
Passwords remove all level restrictions, allowing you to summon anyone. If someone you summon is outside of your normal level/weapon range, their stats will be downscaled to match your range.

Sadly, this only really affects weapon upgrade level and vigor. Most notably, flat defenses from leveling up are unaffected, so a max level character summoned into a base level host's world will be virtually invincible.

any good light weight weapons that work with lightning infusion @ 60 fth?

>>153787789
my man

>>153796958
He literally teleported and killed all the phantoms in less than 10 seconds.. It's not only his looks.

>>153797092
Does From even Ban these people?

How are the claws for pvp ?

My ATT slots are limited. What's better: Great Chaos Fire Orb, or Chaos Bed Vestiges? I don't have the slots to put both on, but I don't know which is better.

>>153797092
but that's exactly what a script kiddie is

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smough down
i got greedy at the end but zil was one hit close to death as well

should i cosplay knightslayer tsorig next?

>>153797092
Hackers are honestly the one thing I miss from DS2. Hackers who took the time to set boss music up and give themselves unique attacks were more fun than the bosses in that game themselves. Everyone in 1 and 2 just makes themselves invincible or gives you bad data.

>>153797153
That sucks. Why I'll never be a mustard.

>>153797092
>cheating eltism

>>153796987
>I-I only cheated a little bit!

All trash people

>>153797175
>attack
>get parried
>WA
>land it on a retard and trigger bleed or watch them not get bled, backpedal, then eat moss
>or fail to land it

>>153797092
>From
>Bans people who got attacked by a cheater
>From
>Doesn't do shit to these cheater shiters.

>>153797107
Oh ok, that makes sense. Thanks.

>>153796189
You have been visited by the metal rabbit of clanging sounds. Good quality anime adaptation will come to your favorite manga, but only if you reply [clang] to this post.

>>153796880
>PC players will defend cheating assholes that turn on god mode at the flip of a hot key
lmao
In all seriousness, how common is it to run into fags that do this?

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>>153797202
Vestiges are way more useful in virtually every situation, probably the best spell in the game for punishing any stupid shit.
GCFO is a bit stronger and can be used in unlocked aiming shenanigans but it's not as reliable.

>>153797175
(A lot) Worse than Caestus.

>>153797175
They're okay since you can parry, rollcatch, and meme on people. Would not use them as a primary.

>>153797302
one in 20 guys is a cheater. Usually in full dragon and have the same behavior. Summoned ones for duels and invaders alike.

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>>153797247
Some still exist.

>>153797232
I'll let you cosplay tsorig if you fat roll.

>>153797392
>>153797302

I didn't even count these >>153797398

I thought I was lagging
I only I knew they are cheaters too

>this guy using a katana in the fc
gross

>>153796869
Jesus fuck, this is part of what I hate about DaS3.

>beat Dancer
>"okay, they were nice enough to give me a bonfire since that was a pretty hard boss and I might not even be in shape to run back to Vordt's, much less Tower on the Wall"
>fight through literally five or six guys
>another bonfire that includes a path that leads to a drop-down back to the Dancer bonfire, literally two hundred feet away

I mean, credit where it's due for Cathedral of the Deep, but at times that feels like the only properly designed level in the entire game, the Fucking Capital was literally just a ladder slide and short run into two optional corridors and the boss.

>>153797398
I've seen that spread bolt once, and it was in a gank. Maybe I just need to keep searching.

>>153797443
deal

but have in mind i have never in my life used the fume

>>153797175
Very good.
All fist weapons have an amazing, spammable running L1 and claws naturally have more range on it.
The Claw WA is literally a better version of 2kat's broken onislayer. It does the exact same thing except is faster, less punishable and leads into a bigger combo. You can go WA->L1->L1 as a true stunlock. With rouge, this will instantbleed any pvp target.

Claws are actually really damn good. Not top tier, by any means, but way better than they're given credit for.

what SL should i be to invade on irithyll/anor londo?

>>153797503
>Guy using katana in FC
>Tries the WA parry once, if it doesn't work, resorts to spamming 2h running attacks
>Doesn't bow
>Slow walks away while drinking estus

There's a special place in hell for faggots like these

>>153797514
The spread bolt is called Lightning Storm. That guy just swapped the animation for it with firestorm to look fancy

>>153797503
I want this katana shaming to stop

>try out the halberd in the fc
>it's reactive as fuck
>I can't get used to the timings
>I can't upgrade anything else

oh

>>153797646
i think 40-50~

>it's another "pyromancers think that they're civilized people" episode
dumb hicks, all you can do is enjoy burning people alive like a bunch of fucking sickos. stick to your damn swamp and play with your own shit while actual human beings advance society

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>>153797674

Roger Bacon?

Wolf knight greatshield any good?

>>153797629
I'm used to play with the brigand twindaggers so it should be okay

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>>153797795
never ever

>>153797795
Katanas are like Astora GS. "There's nothing wrong with them" on paper, but everyone knows you're just going to spam running attacks or rolling attacks, no matter how much mental gymnastics you do to convince yourself you won't.

>>153797513
Irithyll Dungeon was pretty gud as was Grand Archives.
>one bonfire
>lots of physical shortcuts
>varied combat environments
>lots of hidden goodies
>reason to go back to the early parts of the level after exploration
>level loops into itself at multiple points

Irithyll was also pretty good pre-pontiff even though the first Irithyll bonfire was completely unnecessary as would've been the Central Irithyll bonfire too if the Dorhys gnawing area would've been a shortcut.

black iron tarkus cosplayer is my hero

>>153797852
No. I'm some PS4 pleb no one knows, who posted >>153796379 and is still completely livid.
.

>>153797852
you're not our host anymore!

>>153798026

Guess I'll go make a proper character without killing the bosses now. What are some other good arena spots I should leave the boss alive?

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Hey guys, what's your favourite enemy from Diablo 3?
Here's mine

>>153798249
Darklurker was a good boss

>join the FC
>everybody's doing silly shit instead of fighting
>get DC'd
I love you guys

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>>153798249
the loot demons

>>153798229
Dancer/greatwood/ODK/Yhorm/Aldrich or Pontiff/NK or Wyvern is the best combo

>>153798370
>Miyazaki tried to redo darklurker with the pontiff
>he failed and made a worse boss in every way
People still praise that hack.

>>153798249
dont you mean kings field

mfw from ruins that series next

>>153798448
>MC looks like Geralt
>Plays "like Souls game"
>Looks like a Platinum game

People are going to love this tripe.

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>>153797841
>hating on based Laurentius

>>153797841

t. buttmad fedora mage. Why don't you go stimulate your prostate with seath's crystal dick dildo while the real sorcerers advance the purest form of magic - pyromancy.

How the fuck do I increase the ability to not stagger through consecutive attacks in DS3?

>>153798592
all pyros are creepy sadists who enjoy watching others suffer, Laurentius included. There's only one reason to volunteer to study a field of magic whose only purpose is to kill others in the most agonizing way possible. Pyros are hated for good reason, almost as bad as hollows

>>153798249
Shame his design is so fucking awful because it's a fun fight

>>153798583
>is made by a studio that does nothing but butcher other people's IPs
It's going to be a disaster. Nobody falls for Ninja studio anymore.

>>153798496

Roger that.

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>>153798761
>Hating on based Cornyx

Nah my dude.
Youre the one who isn't welcome here.

>>153798717
If you're neutral when you get hit, you don't.
If you're attacking, Poise, and using moves that activate it.

what's the ideal stat distribution for an SL100 pure pyro in DaS3?

>>153798915
It's so fucking stupid that I have to endure 2 or 3 fucking attacks from a stupid ultra weapon.

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>>153798386
>>153798020
you are my hero too anon

OH shit I made the katana fag mad

>impromptu FFA
I love it!
Why can't the game always be this fun?

>FC becomes FFA
Finally