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kToS Patch notes are translated: http://pastebin.com/fu4Tx4S5

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610 - Rank 8 Update Preview
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=616 - Transcendence System
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=628 - Latest Patch notes
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=624 - While You Were Away: Updates You Might Have Missed

Previously on /tosg/: >>153611240

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Late September™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Frequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/z0nHSEjH

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
cute (Merigolds)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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/Bullies/ when?
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dead game
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Why does my party members and quests list keep getting fucked? They disappear from my UI and don't reappear for some time. Anyone knows how to fix this?
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reminder that the desire detector is real
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Does anyone on Klaipedo have a Ignition for sale or to trade? I missed the ones on the market and the only one there is trying to jew me
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>>153706767
This is my 7th one.

I need to get 2 more and sell all of it, then I'll have saved up the bare minimum necessary for buying the Murmillo Attributes.
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>>153706767
Lala why do you even white out the names? We all know who each of you are
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>>153705742
These are the cards I have that can go in the Necronomicon. I don't know if there are other beast/plant/mutant cards now. I should check the card list.
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>>153706842
Heh, yeah I have an ignition, but I ain't sellin' it to any filthy Ohayou.
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>>153705742
left to right, star 1-3
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>argue about making the new thread
>just let it die
nice job shitters
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>>153707545
Where do you fight deadborn boss at?
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>>153707495
>>153707545
Man the guy was telling the truth about the glass mole. Where can I get one of those gray golem cards too? Or even the deadborn
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>>153707659
>Where can I get one of those gray golem cards too
Same mission, Siauliai.
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>>153707659
Poata, Glass Mole, and Gray Golem are all the Siaulai mission bosses. It drops from them randomly when you kill them.
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>>153707659
Golem comes from the missions, Molich though has just a tad less hp but more attack than it.
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>>153707659
>>153707657
a saalus mpa
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>>153707737
>>153707772
>>153707878
Right, I always forget about everything before the mole shows up. Thanks.

>>153707774
Molich?
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>>153706842
Whats so good about Ignition anyway? Isn't Superior Corona Rod better?
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>>153707952
Molich is a boss at the 175 dungeon, I don't remember if it drops a card there though
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>>153707952
The 175 boss
>>153707495
What are your stats?
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>>153706587
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>guildmate is 170-something cleric
>doesn't know what pumpleflaps is
HEHEHEHE
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>>153708251
>>153708264
Thanks, I guess that gives me something to do tomorrow.
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>>153708332
That is not the fucking picture I picked. MOOOOOT
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>>153708442
What is a Moot?
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>>153707503
stop bullying us Murbish
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>>153708509
Don't worry about it threejane.
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>>153707968
Great for linkers who don't break their own links from multihit overload and for Pardoner/PD.
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>>153708442
At least I finally learned what a rear admiral is.
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>>153708509
The Kim of 4chan
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I don't wanna do TBL
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How bad is the -47 evasion of phada? Is it worth taking it if I rely on dodge? I have 541 dodge with swift step up.
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>>153708332
>see pumpleflap
>despair.jpg
>suddenly realise I'm playing Doppel
It was a good feeling. Fuck [insert colour] Harugals though
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>>153708539
I don't have an Ignition!
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>>153708646
Post it again, I have no idea what a rear admiral is.
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>>153708872
I didn't have any trouble with it on my archers (obviously) or Necromancer. I think my Cleric would have had a hard time, but he had Diev so I just silenced their asses and stood between birbs.

I don't want to ever experience it as a normal cleric. Even krivis deals half damage because of their element. No thanks.
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>>153708860
Evasion and mitigation in RPGs are always best when you get closer to 100% of it. Most games have diminishing returns because of this, but ToS doesn't.

In any case, -47 evasion is a HUGE penalty for any build that relies on evasion for survivability. If you care about your dodge rate, -47 will have a tremendous impact for you.
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>>153708897
is that a boy or a girl next to you?
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>>153660081
>>153660237
>He's too poor to reroll all his Saalus cubes
top fucking kek
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>>153709196
What do you want them to be anon
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>>153708897
Uhm
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>>153708940
The post wasn't deleted was it?
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Could someone in Orsha inspect SugarLips? She killed me in TBL with 2 auto attacks.
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>>153709480
>wanting anything but a boy
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>>153708897
>party event ribbon in the game
What
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>>153709845
That's the mage swimsuit ribbon.
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>Sevenfold is hidden by other buffs
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>>153709274
It's easy to post a bunch cubes you saved up and all the money you've scrounged together, no one gives a fuck about you though unless you blow all that money on those cubes you little faggot cunt.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeTYsBZ52e0

>boss monsters had a chance to randomly appear any time as long as you were in a group of 5
>would drop unique cosmetics
>LET'S JUST TAKE IT OUT FOR NO REASON HEHEHEH
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>>153709941
Oh.
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>>153710005
What the fuck, I want that. It'd be easy to stop bots from doing as well, just make the shit gained from it untradeable
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>no special someone in your life
just kill me please
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>>153710571
I'd rather not have cosmetics at all than untradeable ones.
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>>153710619
>special someone is getting shit on by life
>cant help
just kill me please
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>the other team has 3 kinos

Thanks for the balanced matchmaking haha!
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>>153710952
>he didn't roll an oracle PD
nothin personnel... kid....
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>>153710619
My ToS crush has her(his) own group and doesn't want to play with me.
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>>153709735
>wanting a boy
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>>153710952
>enemy team is 2 kinos, 2 clerics and a catagoon
>my team consists of two R5 quarrel shooters and a PD who disconnects
lmao this is a fun and exciting match haha
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So which guild has the highest girl(girl) percentage? I'm on Klaipeda btw.
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>>153711448
kys
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>>153711448
We're all girls, anon.
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>>153711220
Not every game is winnable. You don't need to win every game to climb. You just have to be the determining factor in your team composition, one that every team cannot do without and one that just by wins you games against teams that don't have one by merely existing. Play a Diev/Oracle to get ez freelo.
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>>153711448
CuteNotLewd probably
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>>153711448
probably CuteNotLewd.

Ohayou has i think 3 confirmed girls though.
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Futureproof is recruiting newmembers. We're a /tosg/ exclusive guild, with a focus on PvP and GvG. The only requirements are being an active poster and/or lurker in the general, and having PvP goals. Whisper Lolipan for an invite.
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>>153711448

CuteNotLewd

girl(girl) percentage: 99% and Runic.
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>>153711448

I know someone on Klai who's trying to make a harem guild and only invites girls mostly so probably that. He's a complete autist though so the whole thing is probably going to collapse on him sooner or later lol
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>>153711680
>tfw none of the girls in Ohayour are cute or pure
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>>153711740
>Slave labor

That would explain all that TP you kept to yourself and that hamster.
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>>153711448

lose weight
gain height
go outside
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>qs walking firing speed is as fast as some catas
>Undetectable to IMC
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>Linker in opposing party
>Backseat driver tells us we should all fall back and huddle together and wait for the enemy to come to us

Christ...
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How much suffering would I be in for if I made my main character something like a sword-pel-hop-squire?

Honestly I just want to make a sword character thats both wanted in parties and can solo. The only other thing I could think of was a Corsair build or full on dps dragoon.
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Any dirty hookers here with an SR tried wearing 10 Handguns using Level 20 Retreat Shot yet?
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>>153712579
squires arent really wanted in parties, they're utility characters you leave behind in town as either repairbots or tents.

Hop Corsair is always a fun build, it transitions into shinobi to go full naruto

As long as you have Peltasa any part wants you, nobody really cares about the rest of your build desu, thats your solo stuff
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help my guild is low test

what do i do
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>>153711960
Ive been contemplating joining but its hard to say goodbye to the guild im in, even if they are a bunch of inactive twats
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How do queues work?

I've been waiting for 20 minutes and 2 times already a party went in without me.
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>>153712737

You join Ohayou.
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>>153712885
Anon, Ohayou are dangerously low test. That isn't going to help.
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>>153712943
They have some very high test players in there though
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>>153712579
See: >>153712736
>Solo
Squire doesn't belong anywhere in a solo build.
Every rank you take in squire will lower your DPS without an equivalent payoff in solo utility.

Do you have any preference between swords/spears?
Are you plan on PvPing or is this character for PvE only?
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>>153713254
What would be a good sword build? Sword>Pel>Barb3 something something?
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>>153713482
just tell us what you like
>swords vs spears
>mounted vs non mounted
>do you want be a ninja
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>getting matched in 2x2 against Ilak

It's literally impossible to win. Immune to debuffs, revenged sevenfold, infinite blocking, and eheeehehee'd to death.
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>>153713647
And she gets 86k health :3
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>>153713647
>getting hit by hexing

HAHAHAHA
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>>153713567
I wasn't OP but I just bought
>pic related
for 200k. I don't know if it's worth it to build around a level 75 weapon. I'm also pretty sure that 1handed swords don't scale as well as 2handed.

I don't really care all too much for being a shinobi though the costume looks cute. No mounts since I don't have anymore character slots. I've considered Rodelero but there are so many skills, it seems a little bit overwhelming.

If you could suggest a sword build or a ninja build, that'd be nice.
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TBL makes me so fucking pissed off.
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Database is recruiting new friends! We're a medium sized guild looking for new recruits!
My top priority is to make everyone happy and feel welcome! I will do my best to help anyone that needs help in any manner, be it questions about the game, help grinding an item or just having someone to talk to! In time, I hope to also participate in GVG and to do guild events to hand out hamsters to those that would like them.

If you are interested, please whisper Cattly in game!
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Ipopped my founders pack on orsha. i leveled to 120ish and quit for a while. I want to play again, is there any community at all on this server or should i just kms
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>>153714414
>Orsha
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>>153714414
Hit up the guild in Orsha
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>>153713953
Durandal isnt a weapon you use, its a pvp weapon you use to cast your buffs before you swap to your main weapon which requires Swordsman C3.

Did you want your build to be PvP centric?
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>>153713953
It's not worth building around that weapon (Durandal) since R8 PvE Shinobi spams Shooting Star (a Rodel3 skill) with a Toy Hammer.
Sword3 builds are PvP builds that sacrifice Pelt to max Restrain.

R7 Meta Shinobi (Don't do this anymore)
Sword > Pelt > Hop2 > Corsair2 > Shinobi

R8 PvE Meta Shinobi (Extreme Memes)
Sword > Pelt > Sword/Pelt > Rodel3 > Shinobi > Murmillo
Note that this is NOT a PvP build

Rank 3 for a R8 Shinobi is a toss up since there's actually no good choice available there.
Pelt2 gets you High Guard boosted Pelt1 attacks (which get boosted further with Cassus Crista), but those attacks don't get spammed by your clones.
Sword2 gets you Restrain5 and extra Bash AoE, but Rodelero lacks the means to use restrain effectively in PvP so it falls flat.
Barb1 gives you a slash debuff, but you deal strike damage so it's questionable.
Hop1 lets you use spears and Finestra, which would be great except finestra is spear exclusive and you NEED a Toy Hammer to maximize DPS in this build.
High1 has 0 synergy with anything else going on, just don't.

>TL;DR R8 PvE Shinobi (NO PvP)
Sword > Pelt > Sword/Barb/Pelt > Rodel3 > Shinobi > Murmillo
Sword2 gives restrain and is the most "Futureproof(TM)" choice
Barb gives you Helm Chopper and Cleave, significantly increasing your DPS from R3 until R6.
Pelt gives you bigger taunt and stronger shield attacks to use as Murmillo, but they aren't clone spamable.
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>>153713254
>>153713567
Id honestly like to do a 2h spear build that can pvp and pve
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>he doesn't have enough R7 characters to be suffering from crippling depression and the inability to quit the game or his dying guild due to sunken cost fallacy
heh /tosg/ is so shit at this game
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>>153715675
Side note: Mounted or not doesnt matter, it sounds neat but not required
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>>153715732
that sounds specific enough to be (you)
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>our Kino dies instantly
>whole team is hit by Raise
>capture it and use it to raise the entire enemy team as they clustered together to kill my team
>kill them all
>my team praises the dead Kino
>this was the only match I won tonight
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>>153707495
>necros get 142k hp shoggoth from level 1 golem card
>meanwhile sorcerers...
For fuck's sake IMC give sorcerers some love already.
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>>153716358
5x5 is too much of a clusterfuck to follow.
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>>153713849
Are you Priest3? If so, how much is your Blessing doing?
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>>153716358
>playing 5v5
You chose this.
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>>153716589
Yes, Just over 500 with divine might. 480 without.
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>>153714414
>picked orsha
you fucked up nigger, you went full retard, never go full retard
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>>153715675
>2h-spear hybrid build
I can work with that.

Safe Hybrid:
Sword > Pelt > Hop > Cata3 > Dragoon > Drag2/Lancer
Very comfy since Hoplite allows you to equip 1h-spears, letting you taunt and use Cata skills without weapon swapping.
Able to freely switch to a 2h-spear at any time.

Suffering Hybrid:
Sword1 > Pelt > Sword2 > Cata3 > Dragoon > Drag2/Lancer
Extremely painful to level, but you have Restrain5 for the amazing Rush/Restrain stunlock combo in PvP.
The big issue is that you can't equip 1h-spears until Dragoon1, so you have to switch to a 1h-sword to taunt in parties (swords don't work with Cata skills so you have to juggle weapons in order to taunt AND also attack).

I put Sword2 at Rank3 so that you can change your mind if you want to follow the less optimal but much easier Hop > Cata3 build.
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>>153715481
So I'd have to go Rodelero? There just seem to be so many skills you'd have to take that I'm pretty dissuaded. It seems really overwhelming. What's the reasoning for Toy hammer or would an alternative to it work just as well? Didn't they nerf that weapon to the ground?

It seems that to take shinobi, you have to take rodelero, I'm assuming for Slitherin + High kick.

>>153715071
I don't know if there is some default split between the two or maybe that's asking for too much. I've never done PvP before but I don't want to rule it out.
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Convince a qt into leaving (maybe Crimson) for Ohayou.

I have multiple geared r7's and I hate this game.
don't expect me to be regularly active
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hook64 just updated with speedhax
i have 2 sorceres afking in dina bee thanks to hook :D
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>mfw Uoyaho spies in my Saalus
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>>153716879
delete this
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>>153716975
What do speed hacks have to do with afking?
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>>153716961
Moesaki?
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>>153717112
They said a qt, can't you read?
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>>153717135
Moesaki is the cutest, retard.

>>153717112
nope
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>>153716462
Actually, They're all bugged and the cards don't actually increase/change the hp. The shoggoth has something more like 20~25ish hp no matter what, and IMC will never notice this.
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>>153717135
Moesaki is cute, CUTE!
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>>153717018
>posted about how that cuck was wrong about lolipan, and that he's been giving out the TP on hand now since imc finally fixed the problem
>post got deleted after someone said to delete it
I wonder who's behind this
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I hope I didn't npc all those chasers I had
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I'm not moesaki...
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>>153717135
One for all, one for Moesaki!
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>>153717238
Moe-sacky
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>>153716358
I would have noticed your play Anon. Good job
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>>153716861
It is for slithering + high kick (the strike debuffs) and shooting star (best strike skill usable with clones)
The old corsair build is ok until R7, but its options post R8 are weak.

Toy Hammer is used as AA filler rotation between shooting stars.
Other blunt weapons can be used but are weaker.
The build is gimmicky but it is currently the strongest rodelero and shinobi damage build.

Rodelero skill build is like:
Max Targe Smash
Max Shield Bash
Max Shooting Star
everything else 1 point

You actually have a lot of points remaining after this, spend them wherever.
I would suggest saving them in case skills get tweaked in the future.
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Is monk viable yet
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>>153716983
Uoyaho is actually Bullies spelled backwards
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>A boy gives you a like
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>solo rush 190 dungeon
>dc 10 seconds in
>rip run thanks gooks
>try again
>get this
>errors me back to sever select screen
What did IMC mean by this?
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>>153717908
Not so comfy now huh?
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>>153717908
It's solid advice.
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>>153717386
Praise me more.
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So, /tosg/, what are some useful but underplayed classes?

I want ideas on what to play. Even though I'll probably be stuck by myself a lot.
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>>153718471
Show me your puss.
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>>153718471
Woah woah woah, I already gave you enough. I'll praise you if you manage to beat me in TBL 5v5. Get to the top 10 first.
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What's the better wiz
Wiz3kino3lock
Or
Cryo3kino3
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>>153717908
>solo dungeon to lvl up
why?
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>>153718968
He is obviously a warlock already you dumb fuck
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>>153718680
Thaum 3s, I always see those in 2s, but not 3s.
There's not really any other useful classes that aren't played. I wish a full spr Pardoner would party with me though.
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>>153718680
krivs class
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>>153718927
WizCryo2Kino3Lock Full CON ;)
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>>153718968
>solo rush
>you can see he's a warlock in the picture
Holy fuck you immense retard why is your handler letting you post
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>>153711740
give me a sauce you fine bastard
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Does anyone have any footage of a swordsman3 shinobi? I'm curious to see how double slash scales with the clones.
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>>153716961
well leaving Crimson is a big deal so I don't want you just to leave all that behind for a meme guild like ours.

I made a really really bad Ohayou collage after I tried to think of a reason to join Ohayou cause everyday in this guild is really fun even if they drive me crazy sometimes. This post goes out to anyone interested though.

Ohayou is super lively and theres always way too many people on. We do lots of stuff together and discuss hentai tags. Everyone's talkative and everyone gets a voice. I wish a certain someone would stop making puns though. You don't have to talk if you don't want to of course but I haven't seen anyone in the guild who hasn't participated in the chats. Beethoven and Kora are best mom and mom NA.

If you're interested in joining Ohayou or just want to have some fun for once look us up. Don't worry about "but my builds are bad" or "I'm not good at pvp/gvg" or "I'm a new player", we don't have any requirements, most of our guilds started as lowbies and they're closing in on r7 now and we've helped them a lot with their builds or getting gear on the way. I think people worrying about these requirements when joining a guild is pretty dumb to begin with, makes the environment awful.

Basically the point of Ohayou was to make a guild that is fun and not tryhard but still got shit done which I think we've done a pretty good job of.

Ohayou!
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>>153720389
It's a shame there's so much drama surrounding Ohayou. You guys have so many cool people in the guild and so many of my friends but I just can't be assed to put up with that shit.
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>>153714414
Friend request Colyo and ill get you in Kotatsu. Wageslaving while beefking so dont be offended if i dont reply.

Prepare for comfy.
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>>153720389
>>153716961
>tfw make a bad collage and don't even link the right image
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>>153720389
>Being this desperate for members.
I'm feeling secondhand embarrassment.
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>>153720921
Shut up Lolipantsu.
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>>153720921
Don't bully whoever posted that!! It's cute!
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>>153720921
Better ohayou than being the kond of faggot that makes this kind of post
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>>153721087
>>153721089
>>153721187

Based fellow circlejerkers

You make my ohayou heart proud
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>ohayou defense force out en masse
At least you're active, I guess.
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>>153720389
OHAYOU STRONG
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>>153721248
>>153721275

Kotatsu reporting to defend ohayoubros

Even if vsing beethoven in 2v2 makes me want to turn green and smash cities
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>>153720479
there isn't any drama surrounding the guild though, unless /tosg/ shitposting counts as drama. They shitpost about literally everything since there's nothing else to do. Remember when they spend weeks shitposting on FP?

I think it's kind of a shame you're putting the general ahead of your own actual enjoyment of the game, I think that's what makes most people just give up on the game since they're too self conscious of /tosg/ but if thats your decision I'll have to respect that. But our doors are always open!
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Why does IMC have such shit servers, even in Nexon Japan? Does Korea have shit servers that give instance errors and stuff? Back when there were people playing it, that is.
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>>153721492
>there isn't any drama surrounding the guild though, unless /tosg/ shitposting counts as drama.
Every guild on Klaipeda has beef with Ohayou, that's not really true. The only difference between the community as a whole and /tosg/ is that /tosg/ hates Desu more than they hate Ohayou.
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>>153721248
>tfw not even in ohayou
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>>153721663
>Every guild on Klaipeda has beef with Ohayou
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>>153721663
>Every guild on Klaipeda has beef with Ohayou, that's not really true
Uhmm... what are you talking about!
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>>153721882
>>153721663
Not him and can't speak for others but can confirm the majority of Crimson and Desu do not like Ohayou at all. Kirito does though.
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>>153722023
>Crimson
They're just mad Ohayou found a way to beat the GBL system since they're autistic about GBL
>Desu
Who gives a shit?
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>>153722023
Desu Wanted to merge with us
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>>153719791
anyone...?
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>>153722023
Crimson literally hates everyone, and who cares what Crimson thinks, they're not even /tosg/
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>>153721663
you do realise false flagging is false flagging right?
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>>153722217
It says right there Kirito does.
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>>153722217
Kirito just wanted to merge with Beethoven, he's been trying to do so since FP.

He would probably kick half of Desu just to invite Ohayou if it meant getting Beethoven.

Dude's gay
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>>153722887
Did Kirito create his PD because of his obsession with Beethoven?
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>>153722430
That was literally the point, that even non-tosg guilds have bad opinions of Ohayou. I know a lot of people that aren't in tosg guilds and I don't want problems with them.
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>>153723042
Crimson hates you anyways
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>>153723016
IIRC Kirito made a WB Fletcher but somehow was too shitty to compete with anyone so he made a Diev PD instead for GvG. He did get a lot of advice from Beethoven though.
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Tbqhwy, the people in Ohayou seem alright. Then I remember what the name of the guild stands for and immediately dismiss my first impression.
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>>153722430
>IMC's poor optimization and shitty restrictions are clearly intended for a game that doesn't have a lot of people
>gvg reward system made to be balanced around having a lot of active guilds instead of literally free tp for nothing by default
IMC has got to be the most incompetent MMO company I've ever seen.
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>>153723209
they should just remove the TP reward system all together, it literally encourages you to not play GvG unless you're Crimson. If you lose too much you'll never get back up. If you win just one game you're guranted for the week.

They should've just made TP GvG events instead
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How does one go about joining Ohayou? I am relatively new, and haven't joined a guild in ToS before.
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>>153723316
>If you lose too much you'll never get back up.
I thought the ratings reset every week or is your total w/l somehow calculated in the mix
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>>153723405
You guys realize your constant posts like this are part of the problem right?
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>>153723405
Whisper Beethoven!
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>>153723636
Avatarfagging is a bannable offence.
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>>153723735
huh ?
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>>153723735
always report avatarfags and ohayou posters
they contribute to nothing to this thread and only repost the same shit all over again
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>>153723735
Many different people use those reaction images!
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Does raising Broadhead attribute increase the bleed damage?
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>>153723458
it does reset at the end of the week but every week over 15,000 TP is handed out, and you do NOT want to miss that if you can
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>>153724048
Raising Broadhead's skill level and the attribute both increase the bleed damage, it's why it does like fucking 4k damage a second in PvP
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>54 posters in this thread
>at least of them are Ohayou
ayyy
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Holy shit why do non pet classes get to bring their fucking penguins and hoglans into the arena?
All they fucking do is clutter the screen, fuck up targeting for allies and enemies alike, and make actual pet classes attack the wrong goddamn things.
Plus they don't fucking die, holy shit.
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>>153725481
Because if they didn't then Kabbalists would only have half the number of people oneshotting you with r7x.
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>>153725481
If you haven't noticed this game is run by retards. Pets should not be allowed in arena except for cata and falconer ones
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>>153725780
>QS3 throws Caltrops
>Kabbalist uses R7
>entire enemy team gets vaporized
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>>153726040
No hunter or SR?
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>>153726072
>TBL is just a diceroll on whether the enemy team has a kabba or not
My useless auto attack shouldn't hit me for twice my health, man.
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>>153726454
once Kabbalist C2 comes out your attacks will hit you back for 770% of your damage
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>>153726516
>attacks will hit you back for 770% of your damage
how is this balanced?
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>>153726516
>All your attacks are meteors
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>all these ohayoufags getting b&
nice
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>>153727026
wait why are people being banned?
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>>153726770
just don't attack :^)
>>
FULL INT ELEMEME

FULL DEX FENCER

ONE DAY I WILL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LEVEL BOTH
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>>153727026
Nope
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>>153727075
>Ausrine
>have to do a little ritual dance and it only lasts 10 seconds

>Revenged Sevenfold
>instant cast party wide buff that deals ten Hiroshimas to anyone who deals the slightest bit of damage to you, even indirectly
>especially indirectly
This is called balance
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>>153727217
I heard you brother, I need to work on all the fencers I want to play
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>>153725908
FUTUREPROOF AND PROUD
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>>153721663
First of all,

>caring what non /tosg/ guilds think about your guild

Fuck off.

Secondly,

>caring what /tosg/ guilds think about your guild

What a laugh. Fuck off again.

Lastly,

>Y-you're only not s-shit posted to d-death because /we/ hate Desu more than y-you!!!1!

Honestly, you dont even play the game, do you.
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>>153727336
Ausrine is 18 seconds at level 5. Don't even fucking try to suggest that shit isn't OP as fuck as well.
>>
>play cata
>impale a dude
>bugged out, now that dude is permanently impaled
>use rush to beat his teammates with him as my spear

This bug greatly amuses me.
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>>153723480
You do realise that most of those posts are false flaggers trying to stir up brain dead bandwaggoners like you, right?
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Wiz3Link3Warlock still good even post nerf?
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>Koenig stops playing actively
>suddenly all the Koenig thread bullying ends and he's rarely ever mentioned anymore
So it really was just Koenig posting about himself for attention?
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>>153726770
It's not
Rank8 PvP will be all based around OHKO
If you can OHKO the opponent you win
If you can't you lose
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>>153711740
>>153719489
Help any kind soul? iqdb saucenao and google don't give anything.
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WTB GTB card

pls

i can't take this anymore.
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>being this triggered by bantz
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>>153728939
What happened?
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>>153728841
Almost all the shitposters have quit
Thread is also getting a lot slower, most us /tosg/ has either migrated back to WoW or in Aura Kingdom
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>>153729039
>in Aura Kingdom
>Leaving a shit game for a shittier one
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>>153729039
>aura kingdom

I beg your pardon
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>>153728939
Who is this shit talking guild mustard? Sounds like he needs a good sausage-ing
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Tenet Chapel has a wave of Archer bots coming

They're using infinite range attack and probably Hook64

IMC help
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>>153729172
I saw them set up in crystal mines 3f yesterday as well. They had about 20 strategically placed so they could instantly kill any vubbe fighters at the normal spawn points.
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>>153729028

>at Grynas Hills for the event
>it was also GBL hour
>some guild leader was linking his grynas recipes on normal chat
>"oops, wc"
>replied "WC YOUR MOM, YOU DID THAT ON PURPOSE. QUEUE FOR GBL FAGGIT I'LL FITE YOU 1 V 1"

I didn't know he'd be so upset over that shitposting that he's still looking for our tower.
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>>153729039
We outlasted the shitposters
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So any SEA here?

I came from Dragon Nest and now it seems ToS is also a dead game.

Where to nexT?
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>>153729552
to kys kingdom
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>>153729552

You played on Varena, didn't you.
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>>153729463
We are the true shitposters
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>>153729552
Go back to DN
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>>153729463
Shitposters are what keeps MMO /vg/ generals alive
If shitposters leave it means thread and game are dead for good
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>>153729281

no u
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>>153729552
>mfw even fucking DN allows better ways to level alts
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LUCHADOR WHEN
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>People unironically play this broken mess of a game getting only worse with rank8 and it's atocious powercreep promoting exploiting and cheats
How you can keep bear IMC bullshits?
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>>153730205

We play together with friends and guildmates and don't take the game very seriously.
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>>153730205
It's called cuckoldry.
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>>153729172
Don't worry GM Durian will patrol the scene and do nothing at all

If only there was a way to somehow flag bots as permanent pvp targets
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>>153730586
>Make a guild
>Hack to force bots into guild
>Declare war/have war declared on you
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>>153730287
It's all about boys talking
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>>153730884
I forgot force invite was a thing. This would actually work.
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>>153730884
The bots can just immediately GQuit.
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>>153731005
considering how they dont drop the party right away, that might work
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>>153731432
>They dont drop the party right away

>Carrying bots into item dungeons
>Making them awaken items for you while you watch anime
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>>153728871
how is that fun
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>>153731817
>oneshot based PVP isn't fun
Have you forgotten where you are?
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AAAAAAAAAAARGH I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST TO TRIGGER THE QUEST
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>>153732024
Do your homework next time.
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>>153732024
what is this? Please explain further because this looks ridiculous
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>>153732064
Hidden quest to get +1 STR
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>>153732064
>>
>>153731874
as someone like playing supports no
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>>153730205
>People unironically play this broken mess of a game getting only worse with rank8 and it's atocious powercreep promoting exploiting and cheats
it's still "fun"
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>>153711740
I'm gonna need the name of that mango or the artist.
Is that another maou/hero?
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>>153732882
Go ask /r/
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>>153713849
Nice botched stats, those 50 con make no difference.
>>
Why can't I quit this shithole.
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>>153719068
why pardoner?
>>
>>153733850
because you dont have alternatives u losser
>>
Can I quest to rank 8 now?
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>>153733968
see >>153728895

I want somma dis.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/40808/
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>>153734050
no. but close
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>>153734050
you can quest to 260 at which point you can grind at Maven until R8 comes out
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>>153734582
It'll be storage for a few levels first then maven, but yeah it's a pretty smooth ride to being R8 ready.
>>
what's a comfy PVE musketeer build?
A2-something-FalcMusc?
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>>153735007
A2 QS3 Falcon Musk is the comfiest
>>
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/513201
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>>153735151
>Swordsman Only
>>
4 paths was a mistake. There should have been a proper crafting/merchant class, a proper rogue class (and traps and shit everywhere for them to disarm), and a martial arts class.
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>>153735245
>proper rogue class
"No"

>martial arts class
Swordsman.
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>>153735036
>Qs3 musket
No.
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>>153735359
>Swordsman.
No I mean a class monk and luchador go in, with boxing and karate.

>"No"
Yes. This game needs thieves and assassins. It's not like the PC has any morals.
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>>153735468
>This game needs thieves and assassins.
Didnt IMCniggers said "we dont want that" in some interview months ago?
>>
What the fuck is this shitty design?
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/624322

>>153735621
They've said lots of things.
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>>153735468
>No I mean a class monk and luchador go in, with boxing and karate
Sounds cool and all, but can you fit 19 classes of that, whilst having the skills not doing and looking like the same shit?

>Yes. This game needs thieves
Meh. Thieves are just thieves, at least when it comes to archers and swordsman, the classes tend to be about real concepts or jobs that have existed.

>and assassins.
There are a shitload of troop classes that could be counted as mercenaries and that worked on militaries at different times. Again, I don't know how to fill 19 classes of sneaky bastards when I se some elements of those in already existing classes
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>>153720389
I've started last week, only played cbt 1 before.
Who do I contact?
Been pretty lonely soloing so far.
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>>153736456
Beethoven
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Why is this so expensive?
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>>153736916
And why you want them?
Just use Cafrisun or Ravinpede Boots, both basically free and better
>>
>>153736965
>Stamina
>SP
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>>153737102
Use Cafrisun or plate for physical defense and HP from mastery
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>>153736965
>And why you want them?
I don't want them. I want to sell them. But tons of Earth items are 100-200k for some inane reason.
>>
I love how Jtos players are complaining about Rampant kill stealing or how many want to get Dog Ears
>>
>>153737102
sucks

>CON
is not bad, maybe decent for low lvl

>>153737201
>100-200k
oh wow, wtf
>>
>>153737294
>>153737195
The boots, lads, not the entire set. I'd consider having the boots if they were cheap enough
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>>153737623
Get Ravinepede from questing then
Or better, Cafrisun
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>>153735938
>whilst having the skills not doing and looking like the same shit?
They can't even do that with swordsmen and archers, why have that standard?

There'd be the punching/boxing offensive oriented classes, kicking/jumping offensive classes, disarming/throwing defensive type classes, grappling/debuffing support type classes (like for example a "dirty fighting" or "pro wrestling" class that threw dirt in the enemy eye to blind them, cut with a hidden razor to inflict bleeding, stunned by hitting them with a chair, grabbing an enemy and making them immobile and more susceptible to damage)
It could be more experimental too, like wizard and throw in more varied styles of fighting like drunken boxer, hidden sumo class, karateka as a 4th rank kung fu hidden class. Doesn't even have to be barehand, could have some bare hand classes, some using some knuckle and arm claw weapons, maybe even a (non magical) staff using class.

There's no way to fit some crafting class in there though. Maybe some sort of acupuncture/acupressure qi manipulating class that could open up shops that buffed some particular stat of players after giving them a treatment and could inflict damage on enemies by striking pressure points and throwing needles.

>when I se some elements of those in already existing classes
They shouldn't be in those classes, but in the rogue class instead.
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>tfw you just bought 200 hp potions because they had a very nice price but realized after that they were all level 5 potions
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>>153737217
What skill makes this sound that they're mentioning?
http://tos.nexon.co.jp/players/forum/detail/1022

Or is it just a generic sound?
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>>153738261
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>>153736456
Send beethoven a friend request to get a hold of him tomorrow.
>>
Now that party cutscenes work, people can get into dungeons, and updates are to ktos standard, what's the current hot thing to whine about?
>>
>>153738490
queues
guilds
pvp
monk
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>>153738490
The fact that everything is made to be painful. Everywhere you look, there's something painfully buggy or broken.
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>>153738490
>what's the current hot thing to whine about?
Tree of Savior
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>>153738490
PvP hours
PvP rankings
PvP rewards
IMC considering to allow premades
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>>153738553
>Everywhere you look, there's something painfully buggy or broken.
or plain retarded

shit takes a year or more to farm. or ofc hundred millions of silver
>Red Panda mount
>high Transcendence
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>>153738137
>They can't even do that with swordsmen and archers, why have that standard?
I can only remember wizard examples right now, could you say some about these other classes?

I kinda like your idea for fighting classes desu
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New player here. Can you avoid homing magic projectiles or are you fucked no matter what?
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>>153738954

can't. you can stack mdef and cloth set later. that's why cc has it uses on pve
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>>153738954
>you fucked
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I remember someone here said that there was a 'new' quest from higher lvel maps that was worth farming (by failure and repeat) because of the huge swarm of mobs it had. anyone remember where?
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>>153728841

Maybe janitor here, there were plently of bandwagoners but you would be shocked at how much of the Koenigposting was done by Koenig himself.
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>>153738691
What wrong with premades? Won't that fix the problem of no healers on a team and low ranks along with high ranks?
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>>153739056
something in Grynas Trails with a lot of Fisherman mobs
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>>153738293
"Achō~" sound?
The only thing I can think of is how I keep hearing my female cleric scream "pikachu" while attacking.
Since the first message is about 女性キャラの「アチョーッ!」=female character, it's generic enough to be applicable.
But if you read on someone talks about hearing the same while using Archer or Paladin's Smite - I'll take it as comfirmation of it being a battle scream.
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>>153738691
Premades are great idea, so long as it's premade vs premade only.
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>>153738707
While I think it's ridiculous to need a year of pvp, what's wrong with a long term goal?
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que 130
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>>153739152
If premades share matchmaking and ranking with randoms, arena will obviously be unplayable for randoms beyond farming losses for daily points.
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>>153739169
forgot:

other anon told me that.
i cant rly remember what quest and mobs it was. my chars are higher lvl so i dint bother farming that shit.
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>>153739250
Well I mean it kind of sounds silly to want to go in with a random team and expect to win anyway. It's basically pure luck, not pvp.
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>>153739169
That quest got stupid real fast. Unintentionally failed it the first time.
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>>153739208
>what's wrong with a long term goal?
nothing, but in a trainwreck like TOS..
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>>153739250
>>153739152
>>153738691
The queue times currently take way too long already, implementing another queue will only make it take longer so fuck that.
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>>153739337
PvP means players fighting other players. Poker is an example of a luck-based PvP game. The arena is currently the only place you can actually get PvP on a regular basis. You're asking for PvP to be completely shut down for everyone except a tiny elite and afkers.
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can someone clarify how guardian works in ktos now? i'm confused because i see people saying to max it now, but i'm also saying people you still don't max it.
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>average 1100 score match
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>>153738490
Falcons

Also a guy in my 200 dungeon party got an Isbality I got Talt. This is racist and xenophobic,
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>>153735036
>>153735440
So if not QS3 then what?Sapper2 feels iffy and I have no other ideas
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>>153739767
So you're happy with it being a bunch of uncoordinated randoms and afkers?
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>>153740058

>revenged 21x
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>>153739201
>so long as it's premade vs premade only

>top team gets established
>everyone starts to avoid them
>no one queues until they have a fight with some poor fucks
Just where have I seen this before.
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>>153740350
Sapper is a no, Broom Trap gives too much aggro, you'll be moving around too much instead of DPS. Also Broom Trap by itself is low damage in beyond 200, it's supplementary to other Rank 5 and up skills.
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>>153740794
so much this

premade will not 'save' anything
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>>153740350
Ranger, scout, rogue
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premade could be a thing if we still had the day 1 population still playing, kek
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Hunter's pet commands work like 10% of the time.
Do you need to be close to your pet when you fwee or rush dog him?
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Are you ready for Twin Saga?
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>>153741994
fuck off
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>>153740794
Only if you losers are too scared of losing instead of just manning the fuck up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rQEdC79wW4
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>There are people who genuinely think premade TBL teams would be a good thing.

Yes, that's what this game needs more of: cancer. Why didn't I think of that?
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>>153742213
What do you mean scared of losing, you moron, you'll get your ass crushed 5 times in a row with no chances because you suck, will you queue again? No? Stfu and kys then.
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>>153742473

These are the same people who think it's a good idea to go into PvP with no DEX and rely on equipments to boost their accuracy.
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>>153742473

Again, premade (as a option) would be nice If we had 30k players
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at the very least itd be nice if it forced baseclass mirror matches in 2v2 and split ranks up
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>>153742848
Which will happen never, so there's no point in entertaining the thought "just in case."
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>>153743003

maybe on a super SEA merge and a salvation patch. as for us western faggots, yeah, dead end
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>>153743224
I don't think imc has any intentions of setting up enough infrastructure to deal with 30k players.
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>>153743303

30k players wolf knights!
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>>153743303
Its almost like they wanted to give themselves 3 months to get ready but was pressured to release it early because of whining entitled poorfags. At least it made the game shit enough for most of the playerbase to quit so its playable for the remaining population.
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>>153711740
>>153714134
>Dudurr let me post a recruitment announcement with a shitty edit that gives this anime the GM's headgear/with the GM's Steam avatar

Jesus, do you guys realize how self-centered that looks?
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Dade
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>>153744040
Even then, they had this long to get more servers, but instead they closed off the server and let the population drop, did nothing to get it back, and even redistributed channels from the dungeon system to other maps instead of getting better hardware. What kind of company just lets 90% of its users go without even getting money from them?
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>try to farm lizard ambers
>there's two or three bots on every channel
How am I supposed to do this?
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>>153745118
cry
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>>153744116
Looks like someone didn't get into the guilds.
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>>153739056
>>153739169
>>153739415
not Trails but Grynas Hills
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>>153744681
>>153744040
>>153743303
This isn't regular doomposting.
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>>153745815

thanks mia
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I'm 142 already, I kinda want to get into a guild, what are the benefits?
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>>153746284
friends
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>>153746284
ERP
Town ERP
Open Field ERP
Grinding ERP
Questing ERP
Guild war ERP
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>minotaur card

Is possible to get this card? 10% stun chance seems
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>>153746284
another chat
people to help you, if you need
maybe >>153746354
maybe guild battle, gvg
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Are Cataphracts supposed to go full DEX or full STR?
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>>153745647
Already in a guild; I just can't stand attentionwhoring.
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>>153746848
con and dex
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>>153746284

>what are the benefits?

People to just hang out and chat with while playing, people to do daily rushes and queue missions/dungeons/whatever with and maybe quest together if you're around the same level, good guilds will help each other out with stuff a lot too

Also once you get higher level it helps a ton to have a guild or at least a static group of people to grind with and do stuff like Saalus daily at whatever times work for everyone, as opposed to going through the pain of trying to find a find a party of randoms through shout or something if you can even find one at all. If you get to 270+ and want to do Earth Tower that's pretty much exclusively private static parties, or guilds swapping in all their members to get everyone ET gear.

There's also guild missions which drop hamster pet eggs if you want on of those, and if you're interested in participating and helping out in guild vs guild PvP for potential free TP rewards there's guild battle league if your guild does it.
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how does size penalty effect archers?
should i focus on enhancing low tier weapons or obtaining new weapons?
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does saalus gives exp?
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(you) are a fucking rotten trash.
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>>153747187
-25% damage on missile type attacks
upgrading a weapon to +5 is enough to remove the penalty on every monster size
unless you have a shit ton of money, dont bother before lv170 weapons
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>>153746635
Yes, from Saalus Royal Mausoleum Mission.
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>>153747187
>>153747327
y tho?
What's the reasoning?
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hmm
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rly makes u think
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>>153746358

Don't forget IRL meetup ERP
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>Want to make new character
>Realize I should wait until rank 9 because it might fuck up all my work
>Realize by then I'll want to wait for rank 10 for the same reason

Shit game
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>>153747951
Toronto meet up when
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>>153747070
Why is the Scout outfit so freaking lewd
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Is 284 the highest level for pets?
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>>153747994
I think in kTOS they give out stat reset potions once in a while.

Why can't IMC do the same for us? No fucking idea.
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>>153748302
yes
>>153747296
yes
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>>153748334
They gave us one in recent events.

And they give them in KTOS from events too.
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>>153748090
I'm going to Anime North next year... if the game manages to survive until then.
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>>153733776
Its only 40 con and it brings me up to 12k hp so its not too terrible. Not like i get hit basically ever though
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>>153748424
>>153747403


meh, got almost nothing (my missions were the dullahan and the single boss one).
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>>153747296
The exp is terrible, only the mobs give exp, not the bosses.
Probably a bug since bosses give silver now.
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Regarding the new swordsman gloves. I know that there's a popular gloves for slash -> plate, but is there for other options too like pierce -> cloth or strike -> leather?
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>>153749306

Strike --> leather yes, pierce --> clothes no.
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Who /lonely/ here?
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I should still get a little con and dex with the usual PvE Dragoon2 build right?
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Is retreat shot/limacon ping dependent or does it shoot automatically as part of the skill?
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>>153749519
I'm not even in a guild
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>>153749661
Join one!
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>>153749560

50-80 con, 3:1 str/dex. but that's me. Thinking on dethrone alone, all you need is dex, but all your other spells and deeds claims for high str + finestra 15 so I'm not really sure. I just like dex anyway. I think that even with this low dex you may achieve a reasonable evasion with guardian and good gear
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>>153748090
>>153748818
Who Fan Expo tomorrow?
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>>153749519
More and more people in my guild during the last weeks got both bored of ToS and tired of IMC bullshits like rank8 class powercreep and trascendence for example
Now guild isn't dead but it's neither alive, it's an undead.
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>>153749784
That.. that's too hard to do.
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So guys:
cyro3kino3warlocksage
or cyro3kino3 something else?

Also how much con/int/spr should I put if I want to do both pve and pvp?
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>>153749519

That's just part of the futurecuck experience
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>>153750415
You can do it, anon! I believe in you!
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>>153750523
It's the same for all guilds in the end
Game is shit and not even fun, literally ERPing or "I would feel bad if i leave my guildmates" are what keeps this shithole afloat
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>>153749519
I'm laying in bed now but I'll actually get up and log on if you guys want to run pizzas again.
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>>153750494

for pvp is full con cryo 3 kino 3, this is rank 7 already. r8 is the reason I dropped my cryokino. nothing interesting to pick
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Is the EU server so low populated to have only one /vg/ guild?
Is it worth trying this? Everywhere i looked for the general opinion is to stay away from ToS and IMC with lots of doomposting.
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>>153751372
>missile hole
>not godly in pvp
uhmm
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>>153751745
Don't bother.

Unless you liked just grinding in original RO, there's nothing here for you.
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>>153752029
The grinding isn't even enjoyable in the game, the monsters are so far apart, rubberbands to their spawn location and the most annoying thing is when they run almost every time at triple speed.
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>playing these songs while playing cata

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PKKPVj7loQ

Gotta go fast.
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>>153752196
>>153752029
and there is not much grind anymore
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>>153752409
how so?
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>>153752409
And since May we went from 54k player to 6k spreaded over 6 servers
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>>153752612
You can do 1-260 solo with quests and dungeon finder
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Comfy is recruiting. We got like, 2-3 slots here in Telsiai. Anyone in SEA, new or old player are welcomed to join.

Something something powerleveling, hampster, etc.
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>>153752612
You mostly can run quests and dailies till max level.

A lot of the community hasn't seemed to have caught on that this is a gear grind game and not a level grind one though, to optimize you will want gems for your main skills, attributes, and enhanced equipment that all require loss of silver. That all requires killing a lot of mobs outside of quests.
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>>153752612
They added a lot 232-274 quests. Maybe do a little storage/maven and ur done.
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>>153752946
>this is a gear grind game
And it's terrible for that too.
Even Diablo 3 is better
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Got 2nd Rexipher cube

>reroll twice
>3 talts

It hurts.
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>>153738490
Animation freezing when you try to use an ability
IMC not banning hookers
Still can't ride guinea pigs while kToS can
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>>153753430
They should make demon lord cubes drop special "power at a price" items or item modifying gems or something, spending an hour and 1 mill for a 5% chance at non talt is retarded.
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>>153752946
>>153752787
>>153753079
I really want to level but questing is so mind numbingly boring
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>>153753654
>Still can't ride guinea pigs while kToS can
not sure about that. guess that was missinfo
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>>153753825
Then this game isn't for you. You are free
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>>153753825
>I don't wanna grind
>I don't wanna quest
>I wanna get levels

Make a private server or leave
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>>153752946
>>153752946
>Play same char for four months
>Spend millions to get attributes high enough
>IMC then destroys class
>Rank 8 skills will cost even more
>IMC destroys bee farms
>Can't sell my rare monster gems

This is why Koenig was driven to charging for erp.
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>>153753825
you still can grind.
but even if you do all good grind maps, there are still a fuck lot of quests and they are worth it for cards to prepare for r8
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>>153753430
So don't reroll it, moron.
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>hey can you help awaken my new weapon?
>"sure"
>open portal
>get in
>she logs out
>she goes to queue for 190 dungeon
>now she's in 190 while I'm in this item dungeon alone

I did not know alchemists could just leave.
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>>153754480
Cucked into oblivion
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Is this enough to get me into Ohayou?
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>>153754642
Make it 1050 and you're golden,
we'll add Evergarden ERP as a bonus
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>field bosses would randomly appear for any party grinding in a group of 5, dropping unique cosmetics and gimmick items like the dumbell
Remove them and the cosmetics

>Mission bosses can all drop cosmetic items and even an equippable swordfish!
You know what's better? MYSTERY CUBES!!!!!

>Storage actually has decent experience thanks to the torch event
Nerf it

>a Scout C3 can lead her friends on fun hat hunting parties and-
Make it so only one hat drops.
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>>153754642
No, Lolipan
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>>153753985
>>153754040
I want to play with my friends who are already at endgame
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>>153754480
Yes, alchemists can safely drop you in the dungeon and leave
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>>153754742
You know Kim has been removed from Tree of Savior staff a long time ago?
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>>153751831

you may call me retard but I actually have fun playing pve cryo 3 kino 3, specially in dungeons, I wish I had a good dps option, but thanks to mr kim, my favorite build is faded to be full con pvp support because even if a new dps rank is added, I'll be missing qc
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>>153754480

that's nice to know. What you got from your awakening? did my venier today and got a decent one, still wish it was crit rate but I'm okay with this for now
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>>153755886
Removed, or did he excuse himself?
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>>153756608
He left the team in 2013 to head development on Wolfknights instead
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>>153756371

I got shit. In fact, I wouldn't call that Venier of yours a decent one. It's just 3 points above the minimum roll. You might want to check out this chart:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ry-wk544z3NJ0RGjAUKzE_3BADKUzb3Us6JdlB73vAg/edit#gid=0
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>>153756753
OF COURSE.

And this way he can protect his fake image of "the genius behind Ragnarok Online".
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>>153756371
Tell me your secrets vernier friend.
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I really hope Miko won't be SPR based like rumors say...
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>>153757441
Even if it is there is a skill that increases magic circle duration
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>>153757441
i just want to play as pocky
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>>153754329
I want a rexi card anon, he's so dreamy.
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>>153757769
I've heard cards don't drop from the cube, but they just drop once you kill him like missions and dungeons bosses.
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>>153748110
I'm sorely tempted to tack it onto my QS just because.
Those fishnets. Also some of the new gear drops seem interesting. Is Shade stuff worth it or just a trap for idiots?
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>>153755978
You picked classes with godly utility and are mad you can't carry your build on an r8 dps class to have the best of both worlds, in other words. Not super sympathetic, especially since sage does do damage its just not top tier.
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>>153757980
shade is pretty good vs. physical, just don't ever get hit by magic
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>>153755978
i made a cryokino because i like the cryo costume, but the damage was so mediocre when levelling i made a cryochrono to replace it. the cryochrono is only slightly more suffering while questing.
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>>153756837

Well, I thought that the max rolls for Venier was around 25, it's still something anyway. I'm not rerolling again, not until we finally get a final confirmation about Fencer c3's skills level cap. If Kim does not allow Epee Stance to hit lv 7, Spada will be the new top rapier for us who can't lolopan so I will save my awakening stones and resources for later.

>>153757423
What do you want to know? hehehehe
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>>153757959
It drop from his cube
5% chance, like the recipes
95% talt
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>>153758559
>like the recipes
Aren't the recipes 1%?
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>>153757769
Why do you want Rexipher card ?
It's shit and not really practical for pvp

>>153757959
All wb card drop from cube, but there's a little chance of it drop straight from boss kill too
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>>153758763
>It's shit and not really practical for pvp
>caring about pvp
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>>153758763
Can you post a webm of his skills while riding?
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>>153758096

Not really carry but, you know... Psychic Pressure and Gravity Pole alone are A tier dps magic (frost cloud being S), but without QC it's just... just. 3.2k each hit from Pressure/Pole is good but start to get boring after a few hours and ice pike is a bad joke now. Snow rolling still kicks but again, even my Snowrolling could be great if I had quickcast to power it up. It does fucking 14 hits at lv 7. At 250+ it still has it uses damage wise coupled with delicious CC's. Too bad Isa rune is very restrictive since the cooldown is huge and you can only roll once per rune because of the ball's huge cooldown. Support wise (pve), this char is still amazing but people just prefer cryo 3 / cryo/linker + chrono, not even clerics can compete with haste+pass. While I can raise, pole, permastun and frost pillar stuff, chronos' pack just shit on my girl since they bring more utility and can use tree more frequently

Don't know, maybe I will skip this new patch and play again when r9 comes with sage 2 enchanter 2 + new classes. If nothing pleases me, I can do runecaster + utility or something else like wiz 3.
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>>153747951
But that's just sex!
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>>153759462
It's not just sex, it's sex with your ToS crush
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>>153757980
Shade is great vs phys, evasion is king once r8 hits

Magic will make you cry
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>>153758950
>Sorc
>pve

>>153758996
Sorry its not on my sorc anymore so i cant make any webm

Skill1 : Ranged autoattack with abit of splash area, good range but inferior to TS double aa damage
Skill2 : 30s cd dark pillar, long range with knockdown. Shit damage
Skill3: 3s spamable wide range aoe with knockback (kinda like harpeia aoe). Only 2-3hit with shit damage

It's decent if you mount it all the time, something you couldn't afford to do in pvp.
Incase you are wondering, other WB cards like mirtis and helga are even more shittier than rexipher
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>>153759462
It's sex while cosplaying ToS outfits!
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>>153759781

I think that we may end up rolling with a leveled cloth set with 2x green gem on a cloth boots + super good mdef trinkets + aspersion snapshot trick. High Magic defense, great evasion and a shit but not that bad defense in case we didn't dodge.
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>>153760087
i want to fuck a Sorceress
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Is there any decent way to slap both pardoner and krivis in a full SPR build?
Preferably while still taking an R7 class and priest?
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>Aura Kingdom endgame is boring
>Twin Saga is shit
>Lost Ark iCBT never
Maybe I'll just come back to ToS. What has changed since last week?
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>>153760357
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41122a3e.1a2a33415561.11213a45536595.15213584.13233445.122535415161
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>>153759847
>can't afford to do
Sorc's not going to be able to unride while using a summon skill anymore soon.
Knockdowns are great. They can easily shut down people without pain barrier.
>>
>>153760357

Easy, Cleric-Krivis-Priest3-Pard-PD2

(If you're fine with being 5 healtile bydlo)
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>>153760495
Nothing

>playing other shit games
kys
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>>153760495
>Twin Saga is shit
It is?
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>>153760357
Depends what your goal is.

PVE? No, there isnt
PVP? Why even take pard in a pvp build without bokor.
>>
Does anyone have a Schearzer Reiter on KToS? I need to figure out of the new limacon buff lets your pistol attacks do piercing aoe damage in a line.
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>>153760558
>Sorc's not going to be able to unride while using a summon skill anymore soon

Even more reason to ditch sorc and reroll another class. Its hard enough to compete with other R7 damage with unride and morph double TS card trick, and now they want me to wait for the slow animation before i can do anything.
Face it anon, IMC hate sorc. Sage bats clone is the last hope for them in R8 and knowing IMC they will "fix" it too
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STOP GIVING ME SILVER

GIVE ME MORE EXP CARDS INSTEAD
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>>153761786
Sage bats don't work the way people think, the cloned bats dont attack, they only float around you. They do damage though if you manually try and ram them into people but cloned bats disappear when the original dies too so it just fades really quickly.

Something amusing to try in PvP at most
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mfw i just discovered zoomy plus. Abusing the camera and looking up at everyone's skirts is fun
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>>153762206
>>
How do I do the yellow chat above my head?
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>>153762647
!! I like big butts
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>>153760984
My goal is PVE: for my alt's progression I wanted to combat the things I hate the most on my main - magic and status effects.
After discovering that I can do that with Pardoner(and PD) I wanted to try it out.
And I feel like Daino is a must.
This here seems good to me:>>153760515
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>>153762853
Priest2 is absolutely useless though, is why im saying its no good for pve. You get revive and res but you lose out on 5 levels of bless, stone skin and sacrement.

Either that or you sacrifice cleric2 and thus gimp yourself even more by not having divine might, a good safety zone or 10 heal squares.
>>
What's better:

>a2 r3 vs a3 r1 rogue1
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>>153763356
For what?
>>
Does anyone have a topaz for sale on Klaipeda?
>>
>>153763356
>A3
what the fuck are you doing aaararafghghgkghdsf
>>
>>153763740
But m-muh multishot 15 scaling meme!
>>
>>153762432
>Perverts Using Hacks To Sexually Abuse Girls
Thanks for giving me inspiration on how to push my anti-zoomy agenda further.
>>
>>153763724

I think I had one lying around on one of my alts, I'll give it to you for free if I do.
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>this week I get very rare recipes from cubes every day in a row for 5 days straight
>I didn't even ask for these
>I can't craft them too
>mfw I want to quit the game but I have no alternatives
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>>153763719
Falconer.
>>
FENCERS I NEED HEPL

PLEASE

WHAT IS SKILL BUILD????
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>>153764217
>Abomination build leading to C1 falconer
You know what, just do it. Just fuck your shit up and don't stop.
>>
>>153764374
C3 falconer...
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>>153764443
Just fuck it right up
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>>153762206
WTS Exp Cards
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>>153764369
Max all R8 skills, win the game.
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>>153764698
Give
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>>153764443
A2 Hunter 3 or A1 ranger 3 rogue first
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>>153765464
Man you are fucking annoying
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>>153765291
rare ohayou
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>>153765464
There is one of you in a comfy coffin
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>>153766691
>tfw no coffin carrying Chaika hero
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>>153765464
No.
Boys are illegal in ktos.
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>>153766936
even Cattly?
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Is 300k / hour in dp2 good number?
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>>153767024
>Cattly
>Boy
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>>153767063
Decent.
Farming the 130 or 145 is much better if you can, way more silver/h if you can clear fast enough.
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>>153767189
If there wasn't this little problem, you know. Restrictions and such.
>>
Post silver
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>>153767403
9mil saved up. Spent about 10mil yesterday.
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>>153767298
Would you really consider farming silver for more than 1 hour each day?
You'll get bored and give up in less than a week.
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>>153767403
I don't have any
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>>153767403
Made 1mil just standing here for a full day. Good game. I'm pretty bored by this point so I might just stand here until R8 releases.
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>>153765006
HOW ABOUT THE SKILLS GETTING TO RANK 8
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>>153767827
pls gib monny
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>>153767403
made ~2mil from questing today+yesterday
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>>153767827
>Iwating for r8
>class 6
Come on now, son.
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>>153767480
Yeah, nah. I bet you are one of those fucks who tell others to wait for dungeon resets to avoid "grind".
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>>153768325
I'm bored though. If I had some actual goal I'd be more in to suffer the 1 shot maps to quest some more. If I stand here long enough I'll get enough free TP for like 30 revives and those maps won't be that bad. I also need to see how Necro3 actually is since now that I've realized skeletons being my main damage source means increasing my M.Att is mostly pointless, finding motivation to get gear is hard.

At least this way I'll be rich.
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mfw some retard just put up a token for 500k, fuck paying 800k for one
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>>153768541
>increasing matk is mostly pointless
PLAY THE GAME
L
A
Y

T
H
E

G
A
M
E
>>
Whats a good price for shark cutter?
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>>153768541
>the 1 shot map
plate armor, nigga
and defense buff
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>>153768541
>I'd be more in to suffer the 1 shot maps
Just use Aspersion, you're goddamn Cryo. You shouldve also have spent more points into con. Don't you have anyone to help you level?
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>>153768728
Nigga I am. Sure it's great for Flesh Cannon and I guess Ice Pike has like 4 hits? It's not completely pointless but since Skellies will be my rank 8 ability everything else will have a real hard time keeping up.
If they eventually fix the game and actually give goals beyond leveling I'll probably make a new character, maybe a Featherfoot or a Mimic or something. Sage duplication seems really fun, I hope there's a good build revolving around it in the future.

>>153768752
>>153768934
Most of the one shots where I am are magic damage so I'm in my cloth stuff again. I can get through them but I like to get the battle cards so it ends up frustrating.
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>>153769073
You sound like your guild doesn't do any parties together.
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>>153769073
>Most of the one shots where I am are magic damage
then get decent jewels. +3 or +5 them
i didnt had big problems in these maps, with less HP
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>>153769073
>Skellies will be my rank 8 ability
PLAY THE GAME
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>>153769073
Magic is trully cancer, but you can always get a somewhat decent necklace and bracelets to help deal with those

>>153769309
I'm sick of this shitty meme
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>>153769402
>Skellies will be my rank 8 ability everything else will have a real hard time keeping up.
PAY TE GAM
>>
When people say that bleeding/poison scales with STR, does this mean that they scale with STR properties? or solely from physical attack?
>>
>>153769402
HOLD

THE

DOOR
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>>153769402
>I'm sick of this shitty meme
Maybe if you stop spouting retarded posts, people wouldn't tell you to shut up.
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>>153766898
r10 hidden wizard class
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>>153766898
I have seen this character posted for years but have never watched whatever she's from. What anime so I can finally have context.
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>>153766898
/r/ that hand template with Talts and Exp Cards
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>>153770168
Are you implying I'm honeybingo?
>>
>You want this item?
>Fuck you it's a 1400 DPK item from a slowly respawning monster spread out all over an enormous fucking map and any retard can come along on a quest and completely cuck you out of it unintentionally
Who thought this one up, jesus christ
>>
>>153770768
No, but if you're defending his ideas, then you deserve it too.
>>
>>153769215
I guess I should ask. It still just boils down to not having much motivation though, I mean what's waiting for me?

>>153769228
>>153769402
I mean I guess. 100 less damage doesn't seem like it would really matter though.

>>153770905
I don't get it. Are you saying Flesh Strike is going to be worth a shit? Anon come on now, anon, come on.
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>>153771069
Get a trip so I can filter you HoneyBingo, you're just as retarded as lolipan.
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>>153771069
>I mean I guess. 100 less damage doesn't seem like it would really matter though.
its not only 100

def (both magic and phys) is not 1 to 1
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>>153769895
just with phys. attack, the damage over time doesn't crit
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>>153771204
Why are you upset with me anon. I think I'm pretty cool.

>>153771258
Wait isn't it? I thought fucking everything was 1:1
That's always what people said in icbt
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>>153770710
good chinese cartoon
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>>153771417
>Why are you upset with me anon.
Because you don't know how to play your class and the game and proceeds to shit up the thread with retarded information, typical necro-wannabe.

>I think I'm pretty cool.
Pathetic and delusional
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>>153770905
>but if you're defending his ideas
Where did I say that? I'm just sick of this fucking shitty meme.
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>>153771417
yeah
i dont rly know how the math shit is but

Blue Spion Archers, fucking you in Nahash Forest, have 580 - 663 p.att
if you have more p.def than that (and are not lower lvl) you take 1 dmg, maybe ~100 crit

stuff in icbt barely did dmg
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>>153771657
Play the thread
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>>153771782
I do, and that's why I'm sick of this newfag bad Memel
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>>153771638
He's kinda right though

>Flesh strike will be shit just like meteor
>Same old flesh cannon with more base damage
>Skeleton archer deal 1-2k hit each, when other class can deal ten times that
>more hp for skelly mean jackshit when boss aoe knock them down every 5sec

Its literally just an afk farming class with 2 ok burst
>>
>>153771710
I don't know, that still sounds like 1:1 to me, or at least just as good. So if something has 500 p.att and I have 400 p.def how much damage is it doing?

>>153771638
But anon I'm super cool. I wear sunglasses and I have cool slicked back hair. I can cook and I fuck bitches. I'm not even scared of bugs. So I think I'm pretty cool.
>>
>>153772124
well, with low def Blue Spion Archers do 2-6k or more
with high def, they do 1
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>>153771942
He's wrong from the start.
Necro without quick cast = shitty damage spells
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>>153772215
Fair enough. I guess it doesn't matter what the math is as long as it works. I just wish I knew so I could plan better.

>>153772220
I picked Necro for spooks though anon. I want to play the skeleton class not the nuke class.
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>>153772124
[PhyAtk - Def] * Multipliers

Spiral Arrow multiplier is 6x
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>>153772124
I play a Doppelsöldner, trust me when I tell you def matters a lot. I have 571 def with Aspersion and those Blue Spion Archers tickle me, but at full deeds, I wouldn't be surprised if a critical spiral arow took 10k of my HP.
>>
mozart best daddy na
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>every inch of b1 is covered in archer bots
Is this hell?
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>>153772369
>I just wish I knew so I could plan better.
>>153120571
>>153120049
>>153119039
>and replies
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>>153772457
I thought very few things actually had multipliers? I guess I haven't really looked into things since ICBT2. Makes sense.

>>153772560
Well alright. I guess I might do a few more maps if I'm bored then. I'll still probably just afk at bees for a few weeks though.
>>
>>153772852
I have the plate stuff, at least a few parts. It's the specific mechanics I'm curious about not their effects.
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>>153772776
i was in ch3 an hour ago and it was pretty clear, though maybe someone had crashed it
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>>153771069
>I mean what's waiting for me?
The same shit that is waiting for you in every other game. Near-endless grind to minimax gears, idling and pvp/instances. What brings the fun is interaction with people, especially in MMOs. If you seek clear goal and no dilemma whether you should stay or hop to the next game then there're plenty of single player games with good gameplay and much better storyline. In MMORPGs, especially as mechanically fucked up as ToS your guild or any other circle of friends is one of the biggest factors of fun.
>>
>feeling like lucky
>use anvil on my already potential fucked Catacomb Pike lv6
>Now i have a 4/11 Potential +5 Catacomb Pike
Anvils are a mistake, not like i need a strong weapon for rank8
>>
>>153773256
>not having +25 weapon and +50 gear
You're playing the game wrong.
>>
>>153773256
>+10
4 silver anvils from event
>+9
>+8
>+9
>+8
Thanks IMC
>>
>>153772858
Fake multihits are all multipliers

Spiral Arrow is a fake multihit.
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>>153772369
Your "skeleton class" will fall hard just like sorcs. Even harder since you don't plan to increase matk and no quick cast. You set yourself on the reroll trap.
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>>153773256
>4/11 +5
Craft a new one
>>
>>153773256
I don't think I'll vever get a +15 isbality
>>
>>153774214
Which are the known fake multihits? Seism is the most commonly known one.
>>
Let's talk about money, /tosg/. Are you saving up to buy Rank8 attributes? If so, how much do you need, and how much do you have so far?
>>
>>153774926
Yes
800kk
800k
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>>153774926
I need about 15m to get attributes where I want them. My 'main' class is unimpressive at r8 so I only need the attributes to make him an optimal silver factory.

My other character needs as much money as I can throw at him though. I'm at 34 mil at the moment but in order to get his attributes where I want them I'll need about 45m at r8. The good news is I already have all his gear.
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>>153774214
>Fake multihit

As in it's one big hit but calculates base damage + attack multiple times? Weird.

>>153774232
It sounds to me like you're agreeing with me anon.
>>
>>153775106
>unironically playing as a boy
>>
>>153775017
>kk
kkys
>>
>>153775215
Yeah, you never saw Seism, Earth wave or Doom Spike being used?
>>
>>153775215
I agree that your build will be pure suffering and will be a dead end class.
>>
>>153775215
It displays multiple numbers, but it's actually just 1 hit. The splitting for display is random and has no bearing on how the damage was calculated.

For example:
Running shot displays two numbers but it's actually calculated as 1 hit.

Earth Wave displays a bunch of numbers, but it's just calculated as 1 big hit.
>>
>>153775340
Easily baited
>>
>>153775370
I don't pay much attention.

>>153775409
I'm not sure what you're upset about right now anon.

>>153775530
Wouldn't that make it worse?
>>
>>153775106
How glad are you that you didn't go 100% girth?
>>
>>153775680
Having low matk and relying on skeletons.
>>
>>153775953
I'm sorry I'm not as good at Tree of Savior as you are anon.
>>
>>153775850
Maximum glad. The returns are so small after 75% for the amount it costs that I probably wouldn't have done it even if Necro C3 was completely amazing.
>>
>>153776135
__________
___________Play the game_________
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>>153775680
It is, that's why having Def ~ Atk will make you take 1s.

Fake multihits are usually T1 modifiers, they are calculated after (Atk - Def). If they were T0 modifiers, no amount of armor would save you since those are (Atk*T0 - Def).
>>
Fucking Christ I need 2 glad bands
>>
>>153776356
I want 4 battle bracelets
>>
>>153776356
I need two sissels
>>
>>153776356
I need two Phadas
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>>153776356
>just made two sissels
>now feel like i need two glad bands


This is killing me.
>>
>>153776356
tfw needing battle bracelets
Is there a single feel worse than this?
>>
>>153776356
I need 3 boys
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>>153776995
>>153776881
>>153776723
>>153776667
>>153776356
>physical classes
Boy am I glad I got off that train when I did. Never again.
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>Come back from afking
>Whole guild is erping
>Thinking about quitting the guild
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>>153777091
>3 boys
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>>153777223
Just do it
What is keeping you there?
>>
>>153777223

What guild?

I'll take your spot
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>>153777291
I'll make good use of them
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>>153777858
Get a hold of yourself. Boys in guilds exist to keep out of control girls like you in line.
>>
if fp still for cucks?
>>
>>153777091
Bend over, slut.
>>
>>153774926
>Murmillo Helmet
>9m for Rodel boost
>9m for Battering Attack boost
>Not buying the Pelt and Hop ones

>Leap Slash attack
>400k for 20%, it's Slash so it's not like I need to buy too much into it

>Neck stabbing skill
>3.6m just to buy the 10% chance to bleed
>1m for 30% attribute
>I can probably skip this altogether, though

>Headbutt
>5.4m for 50% attribute
>3.6 for the 50% boost to strike damage

>The new shiny shield whacking skill
>5.4m for 50% attribute
>2.3m for the stunning attribute

>Total: 35.1m if skipping the neck stabbing skill

This is the bare minimum to get started for me. I might want to buy more attribute for the Rodelero skills, but that can wait.

>11m on bank right now
>>
>>153778151
FP is on life support. We're waiting for it to leak the remaining 3-4 decent members it has and see where they go.
>>
>>153771678
wut
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2127a799.153555.152575.11253a4a54.15253342.11253a486195
>>
how do i get that special someone?
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>In Sekta Forest
>Killing mobs
>Drops a level 10 card

Uh
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>>153778539
Rope.
>>
>>153778539
Join F.O.E. in Aura Kingdom!
>>
A Futurecuck walks into a bar...
>>
>>153778702
Tell me about aura kingdom. Why does /vg/ play it? It seems like the most generic korean wow clone ever
>>
>>153778789
It has a built in bot so you don't even have to play the game during the leveling phase.
>>
>>153778789

It's just comfy and half the game is automated, like walking to npcs
>>
>>153778789
its shit

>Why
discordfags are bored?
>>
>>153776347
>they are calculated after (Atk - Def)
Isn't that virtually the same as multi hits?
>>
>>153779490
No. Imagine multihits as an Enhance, that comes after eveything, these fake multi hits happen to be quite early in the formula, so, as they don't factor in some other things (crit atk, elememe atk,some other shit I don't seem to remember), the final damage increases as a fraction of their modifiers.
>>
>>153779490
For example:
Each hit of a multihit gets property damage applied.

A fake multihit only gets that property damage once.

Hence, 10 hits of multi hit with each hit getting 100 property damage on the second line will deal 900 more property damage than the fake multihit.
>>
>>153779920
>>153779992
So they're the same as multi hits but everything other than the base damage + p. attack - def will only be calculated once?
>>
>let's give mage enemies ten billion health, damage, and natural CC immunity
WHAT IS THIS GAME'S FUCKING PROBLEM
>>
>>153780256
According to https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/damage-guide-the-big-formula-modifier-types-and-how-they-interact/118950


They're the same shit, but those fake multi hits effectively have a lower modifier than the number of hits they show.
>>
>>153781118
ITY enCOURAGES PPARTY PlAY

DONT FORGET TO REPORt

ALL THE CLASSES THAT CAN SOLO
IF ELEMEME CANT SOLO ANYMORE

NEITHER CAN THEY
>>
>>153781595
You sound upset.
>>
>>153781687
NoT UpSET at ALL I love IMC and their NBAL:Ance DECISIONS
>>
>>153781595
Catshater anon you're off your beds again.
>>
What's Clover up to nowdays? I don't see Karga being as active anymore.
>>
>>153781118
>Also you can't dodge their attacks but we'll make it look like you can.
It's weird too, a lot of creatures fire the same bolt in both homing and non homing versions.
>>
>>153781923
I outLASTEd that FAGGOT

HE is DEAD

I KILLED HIS SHIT 'ZZAs
>>
>>153782052
Cats was literally talking in guild chat last night, catshater-anon. Please calm down.
>>
>>153782354
t. beta orbiter
>>
>Everyone think the penguins sound cute
>I think they sound like they're farting when they walk
>>
Anyone know of any ktos blogs with vids or something? I just wanna see more R8 stuff in action
>>
>>153783445
It's more of a squish...
>>
>>153783559
Try searching for "TOS 2016 09" or "TOS 2016 08" on youtube. I think there's also a thread with r8 vids on the forums
>>
>>153784340
>>153783559
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/rank-8-gameplay-videos-from-korea-korean-meta-video-and-link-inside-all-classes/322334/468
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>>153777643
It's probably Ohayou
>>
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Post whispers and chat screenshots.
>>
>she plays hoplite 3 doppelgoon

reroll into hop 2 barbarian before you suicide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrGuiT_9eY


Finestra 10 + cleave = 150 ch still

helm chopper brings a much valuable stun and cleave debuff makes cyclone great again, even dragon soar, and you need this stuff to deal with the new mobs, specially the cloth ones who resists dethrone
>>
post cookie cutter fencer builds
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>>153785282
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>>153785282
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>>153785502

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666eee.23334455.153541.5a63718591aabf.112a4461718591a5b5
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Where the fuck is Kayori
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What are my elemental options as an archer? I miss RO's big list of arrows for every situation. Is there anything similar or is fletcher the only class with special arrows?
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>>153785887
The elemental system in this game is borderline useless. There are 0 reliable ways of attaining specific properties, and the only times you ever notice they exist is if you play Pyro or Cryo.
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>>153785282
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>>153786412
What games have element systems that matter? I like how armor matters in ToS and maybe size sometimes, but it's the closest game I've seen to having elements matter in a long time.
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Watch this, lolipan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4PeuZwTpXE&ab_channel=%EB%B0%95%EC%83%81%ED%97%8C
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>>153786865
RO's elemental system was the #1 fact for damage, outside actual stats.
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>it's a isbality heart attack episode
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>>153785390
I was thinking of going that but I'm stlil not sure with the new attribute / spear throw buff
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Where are the /tosg/ cookie cutter builds?
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>>153787361
Farming a topaz is fucking impossible
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I wanna see Futureproof queue against other /tosg/ guilds for GBL!
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>>153788025
they were so outdated they were taken down for the sake of new players not being misinfod, and no one put a new one up.
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>>153788575
Shieruu ;-;
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>>153785282
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>>153788471
k
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>they kill the tree before the poata
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>>153787123
Thanks for the video. This is EXACTLY what playing Rodelero right now is like. Except murmillo makes you stun immune, and increases the damage output to ridiculous levels. That was a pretty good match, considering all the bullshit involved on the other side.
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Alright niggas, how's my off-meta SR build?
A2-R1-Wugu2-SR3

Con 20, rest STR
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>>153789679
Bad.
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>>153789679
>str
Bad
>off meta
>sr wugu
Not even right in pve, let alone pvp
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>>153789679
20 CON is like nothing, better to get full STR instead.

If you accept that you'll never ever hit a swordie or archer, it's passable. Of course, your wugu poisons will almost never hit anything either.
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Do musketeers pvp? How do they do?
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>>153789679
>>153789679
>wugu
>no dex
It's shit
>>153790231
They one shot people and die
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>>153790020
>trianon
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>>153790231
sometimes they one shot things
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>>153790231
They press their snipe key, which makes everyone move when it goes "beepbeep." Then they experience weaponswap lag, miss their shot, and die.
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What's Mergen2 gonna need to save it
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>>153790020
20 con is 1600hp, it's not nothing. whether he's better off investing that in dex to hit in pve is a bit of a tossup.
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>>153790231

I've seen musketeers do very well in GvG, tougher in arena for them though because of the small enclosed space.

You want to be A2, QS3 or R3, Scout, Musk and have plenty of attribute on your Snipe, and your job is to try to pop out of stealth and assassinate vulnerable low CON targets like the enemy guild's Elememes.
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>>153790915
Retarded low/zero cooldown skills like Fletcher, but with the base damage of R9 classes.
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i have a full spr c1 p2

wat do
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>>153791471
cleric2 priest3 paladin3 inquisitor
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>>153791714
>r9
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>tfw can't farm the farming quest
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>>153791471

pve or pvp?
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>>153791714
that was my original plan, but orsha barrier scrolls are only 1100-1500 each, it kind of feels like a waste to take 3 circles for a skill that i can use on any character for so cheap. i stock up on barrier scrolls on my 200+ characters the same time i get pots.
>>153791854
pve, pref an ET setup
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>>153791714
>>153792092

also noting thats 9 ranks dumbkopf, would have been c2 priest2 or c1 priest3
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>>153792092

That's easy then. Cleric2 Priest3 Krivis1 (For the SPR scaling Zalciai) PD(2)
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>>153792092
Who the fuck cares about barrier, you take paladin3 for conviction+god smash double damage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQZ6Vvqr98Q&ab_channel=GinsengLee

Skarphuggning looks good, but storm bolt looks rather weak. In tosgbase it doesn't seem to have an enhance att? Maybe that's why, I've heard a few skills don't have it either (inquisitor's wheel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQZ6Vvqr98Q&ab_channel=GinsengLee

Still waiting to see if they will buff (more like make it more compatible with Hakkapälle) Rogue further; I have a feeling that they will.
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>>153792305
That cute little archer is in for some fun, and by the look of her eyes, she's looking forward to it.
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>>153792380
>conviction+god smash double damage
wot
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>>153791845
They're cloth, I don't blame
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>>153792823
conviction doubles the damage of god smash, its like the conviction smash combo

Paladin 3 Monk Inquisitor for maximum god smash, although I think thats putting too many eggs in one basket, you're just badswordsman at that point
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>>153789897
>>153790020

I don't intend to PvP at all and 20 CON for little survivability against bosses.
I feel R3 is such a waste merely for +10% more steady aim.
I also don't have any problem hitting mobs with full STR swordman at lv.200

What makes DEX>STR for SR?
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>>153793114
SR wants max str, your skills dont have 4 digit base power anyway and it goes well with Wugushi

if it's just PvE its fine, get some nice gloves and greem gems so you don't miss. The retards on /tosg/ get triggered when someone doesnt make a pvp build despite pvp being beyond broken.
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More apples when.
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>>153792915
>conviction doubles the damage of god smash, its like the conviction smash combo
Any videos of this?
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>>153793350
>your skills dont have 4 digit base power
But they do.
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>>153793350

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#311444aaa
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>>153793458
Without conviction - 20k dmg, 30k crit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usLwJpVZeh4

With Conviction - 40k dmg, 60k crit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKPP0C--B6c
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Is it worthwhile for support characters to transcend their armor? I'm getting absolutely shredded by heavily enhanced archers even in grynas armor now, little bit lost on how I can deal with this, but I'm thinking since you'd need twice as many shards to transcend an armor+leg piece as a weapon to the same level it wouldn't help much.
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>>153794096
Nope, welcome to gook balancing.
At least clerics have a dozen immunities to pick from.
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>>153794096
>he didnt roll a Sage for missile hole
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>>153794496
>he didn't roll a hole for Sage missiles
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I'm new to this general, any active guilds in Orsha?
Is the "World Boss Mafia" real?
And please explain this pizza meme.
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>>153794791
>he didnt roll his missile in a sages hole
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>>153794829

>any active guilds on Orsha?
you could get comfy under the Kotatsu. I know nothing about them though maybe someone actually from Orsha can fill you in on that.

>Is the "World Boss Mafia" real?
At one point? yes. Now? No way, especially with the WB debuff changes.

>spoiler
...
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That was an intense WoE
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>Crimson leaving the Cucks' tower at 1% health to give them a chance to fight and git gud
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>>153795889
>can't actually enjoy the chance at a fight because I'm playing from my phone
This is the worst.
>>
>>153789679

It's fine anon, I'm willing to say you should even go full str 0 con
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>>153795960
I was wondering why you just stood still making statues. I'm pretty sure that one of those owls killed somebody, too.
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>>153795450
Thanks anon.

>>153796119
I guess some things are better left unknown.
>>
FP vs Ohayou please

Crimson back off of queue for a bit
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>>153796369
why would ohayou risk their tp prize?
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>>153793114
R3 is not a waste because 10% more steady aim applies after transcendence, crits, etc are taken into account and will forever be relevant
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>>153796369
If this is happening post in advance so I can log in for it!
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>>153796369
Why would you assume crimson reads these threads?
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>>153796110
Yeah, guess I got a kill on the post-match record. So that's my first GBL kill from my phone. Clerics really are amazing.
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>>153796490

>risk
>FP

Do you guys seriously believe this? if anything it's your chance to advance to meme glory
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>>153796557

I'd argue that wugu2 is better if you want to do things like soloing fedimiam missions, honestly 10% steady aim isn't that important. My qs3 sr2 gets along fine with aoe damage with no points in steady aim
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>>153796557
>This is what Ranger 3s actually believe
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>>153796748

Please, I know at least 4 crimson who actively lurk/post and they're all on right now
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>>153796819
Yeah but I'm talking about the future. Right now you're definitely correct, but as the game progresses, % scaling buffs like Steady Aim will be the only things relevant from early ranks. This is for long-term consideration.
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>In theory, Steady Aim 15 is like an 8% difference over Steady Aim 5
>In practice, it's more like 4%
>Theorycrafters will still insist it's totally worth it
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>>153796940
But none of those 4 are the guild leader.
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>solid month of running dungeons every single day
>rerolling every now and then
>ONE recipe, nothing but talt and cards otherwise
>recipe is a Drake Tail
Someone will defend this.
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>>153797926
>FP's newest members
>Kinte and White_Rabbit
okay
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Did I miss something
Didn't cats quit FP and create DATABASE?
cuck
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>>153798371
Cats isn't Cattly!
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#cucked

With a numbers advantage too
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Good game, fp
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Nice fight, Clover.
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>>153796975

I prefer more versatility than raw dps, wugu2 poisons will scale well with transcendence and further str increases
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>>153798723
Literally everything scales well with transcendence and str increases. If anything, damage increases to wugu2 poisons scale worse since their attribute is awful unlike most others.
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>>153796940
who is the 4th one
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>>153798723
they'll scale somewhat by the looks of it, but probably won't keep up very well.
at least they're fire and forget.
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>>153798902

Oh right, I forgot wugu attributes are fucktarded broken.
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>>153796940
Moe, Alysse, Faery and ______?
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>>153799103
Saori is that you?
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>>153797057

It's worth on good parties with good guilds and with good geared players
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Should Guardian be maxed now with the upcoming Guardian changes?
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>>153798930
>>153799103

lol calm the fuck down girls. he doesn't hang out with tosg so why the fuck would i say on here
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>>153799774
>the mysterious outsider guy
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>>153798224
Almost read that as Lunar.

Thank god I read it wrong.
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>>153800435

Are you me?
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>thread is dying
>whip out the namedrop defibrillator
Every time.
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RIP Clover.
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>>153801562
what happen
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>>153801710
They're disbanding and merging with another guild.
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>>153801861
Why? And what guild?
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>>153801710
>>153801562
>>153801907
wait for Karga to post. we all busy now.
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>>153785282
''Your next line will be...!''
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>>153799567

Lv 5 for pelt c1? I'm not sure yet...
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Does anyone have any footage of shinobi with swordsman3? I've been looking on youtube but can't seem to find anything. Just curious to see the numbers on bunshin with double slash.
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>>153720389
>>153720509
>tfw this post actually did something
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>Death of a guild
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>Clover has disbanded twice now
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F clover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9hagVL-__c
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>>153804832
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somebody make a new fucking thread already so we can cry
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>>153805448
New thread!
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>>153805460
Oh no! The Murbish is free now
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Where do I grind enough silver so I can get +20 jewelry and not die if I get aggroed by more than one maiden in Kalejimas?
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>>153804832
Good times my mates

We might relive them in this GvG arena though

Looking forward to pvping with everyone again
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What happened with Geropi?
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>>153805896
>>153805896
>>153805896

New thread

>>153805896 (Cross-thread)
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>>153794829
Kotatsu is the only Orsha tosg guild as it stands, though I know Alpha has its share of lurking shitposters, and they stand as one of the top guilds on the servergroup at the moment. Tight requirements to get in there, though.

Send a friend request to Colyo and ill get you in Kotatsu next time I see you, if interested in getting your foot into a community
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